Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Karen Read Mistrial and Mean Gays
Episode Date: July 2, 2024Mistrial in the Karen Read murder case. What could happen next? Was BET Awards insensitive by including OJ Simpson? Bethenny Frankel’s ex had moved on to another reality star/podcaster. Did Julia Ro...bert’s flirt with Travis Kelce. New scripted series about real housewives is in production. Is Kim Zolciak dating Chet Hanks? Then the hilarious “Mean Gays” are back! Aaron and Jake are actors and creators who together can cut a bitch in the most subtle and hilarious way possible. We discuss how exclusive clubs for dogs are the best way to fall in love. There is a new golden girls with gays in Palm Springs. There is new real estate porn to watch and it’s called “Owning Manhattan”. Eddie Murphy refused to do coke. Then we get into the NBA draft pick who may have been groomed by his older fiancée. Go to https://Booking.com. This summer you can book whoever you want to be on Booking.com, Booking.yeah! Book today on the site or app. Go to https://ProlonLife.com/JUICYSCOOP . Right now, Prolon is offering Juicy Scoopers 15% off their 5-day nutrition program. Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. As always I have a great show. I do want to remind you
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the Patreon. Okay. So now let's get into some scoop. Karen Reed. Okay. Now they are still
saying they're a hung jury. This is the Karen Reed trial, which I've talked many times about.
I also want to remind you there were 33 days of testimony,
74 witnesses.
My coverage of it was just to inform you guys
that this is a very juicy case
where a woman's life is on the line
as far as doing significant prison time
if she is convicted of backing her car into her boyfriend
and killing him and leaving him in the snow to die? Or did the police that all were at
this house party that he allegedly possibly attended, did they do something to him and
fight, get in a fight with him and kill him and then frame her? Was she framed by the
Canton Police Department? That is the controversy.
There's, you know, like I said, there's an entire trial and there are people that have covered it
for hours and hours and hours and hours and have sat home. You might be one of them and watched it.
So that when I talk about it, I just, I'm talking about, yes, there's a documentary happening. Yes, I think Blake Lively should be playing her.
And then I thought about what if in fact this is
a hung jury, what does that mean?
Well, it means that they will do the trial again,
which in most cases, the prosecution has an advantage,
because now they have seen what the defense was.
They didn't know what the defense was before.
Now they do.
And they know, you know, and they probably will also, and they will also know, was it
really close?
Was there only one holdout or was it they were split six, six?
So that's a, they're going to have to really put on a different case to convince them. Or is it possible, and I don't know
if it is, but is it possible that they could come back and have her do a plea deal? If
you remember in the case of the stairway, what was it? The stairwell? Staircase. The
staircase with Michael Peterson. Did he beat his wife and her body was found
at the end of the stairs or did she attempt to go up the stairs, slip and fall and bled?
That whole case, they had a documentary following him for years. There was a hung jury, there
was another trial, and then eventually he did take a plea to finish his time and get out of there. So
we don't know if that's something that could happen here. Would she ever take some sort
of plea of inadvertently, oh, okay, I'll just plea, even though it wasn't true, but I'll
just plea that I'm guilty of second degree or, you know, involuntary manslaughter just so
that I, okay, I'll do an hour, a year of time and then I get out. And then those
are the kind of things I like to think about. Like, would I do that if I knew, if
I was in her position and I 100% now believe I was completely innocent, even
though there was, you know, I might have had a few drinks. I now know from the evidence that was presented, I'm 100% convinced that
the police have framed me and they have put me through hell and back, and no way am I
going to say, okay, fine, I'll do a year. No way. Or would I say, even though I'm innocent, I'm gonna do a year and I will make the best of it,
like Teresa Giudice did.
I'll make friends with the girls.
I'll start to learn to do impressions of the guards
and win over the other inmates.
And I will work out and I will keep a journal
and have a best selling book once I come out.
I don't know.
I would have to really think about it.
Now that my kids are older, she doesn't have kids.
So I see why someone wouldn't wanna do it
if they had to leave their two-year-old child
for a year or two.
But those are the things I think about.
That is what Juicy Scoop is.
It's me thinking about what would I do if in fact that was
ever going to be a possibility and I ever found myself in this position. And I think
that's why people are so into this case and why they get angry if I mess up a fact because
it is riveting or they are from Boston or they do believe that this is something that
has been going on in their town for years when it comes to the police force.
And they're thinking about what if they were in that position?
What if they were suddenly her?
So we will see.
But as of now, again, when this episode goes up, something may have gone down in the hours
that of me recording it and going on.
And you're going to want to correct me,
and go ahead, do it.
But I'm recording this on Monday afternoon,
and so far the news is,
they still have not come to a decision.
So the BET Awards, they did an in memoriam,
and they featured OJ Simpson.
And Ron Goldman's family, Kim Goldman, who's a friend,
who's been on the show, they were not happy.
Neither was Nicole's family.
You can imagine why he would be honored at all.
He was definitely a wife beater.
He definitely abused his wife.
That, without a doubt, I think with that. But
then also, you know, he's a murderer. Okay. So why was he honored for what he contributed
to the world? I don't know. I don't think it was a great idea. They were not happy with
it. Also, I saw that Faye Resnick has a documentary on HBO Max. I have not watched it, but I'm going to. I always found her fascinating.
Her book was so good. And then of course we saw her a lot on The Real Housewives. And
Camille had that great scene at that dinner where everyone, where that psychic was vaping
before we knew what vaping was. And then she, And then Camille said, oh, I know where I know you from.
You're the morally corrupt Frey Resnick.
Because Frey Resnick did a spread in Playboy
after she wrote her book and was really in the news
for several years after this.
Well, she is a fascinating woman
and I'm excited to watch her documentary
to see what perspective she has now because so many of the things that she said in that
book were later proved to be true, you know, decades later when there were all these other
documentaries that came out of it, came out about the murders about, I don't know, maybe three or four years ago,
all that stuff was proven.
So that was, if you ever get a chance to get your hands
on her book, you should read it, it's really good.
So I found this kind of interesting
because Bethany Frankel broke up with her boyfriend,
or he broke up with her, whatever they broke up,
they were engaged, his name is Paul.
He is now dating this divorced mother of two named Aurora.
Culpo, I hope I'm saying her name right.
She's one of three sisters.
They had one season on TLC.
So there are two other sisters, there are three sisters.
I don't really know how they became famous.
I think they were all like married to like,
or dating kind of great people and they were influencers.
I don't really know. I didn't watch the show.
But this girl, she has a podcast.
She's divorced. She talks a lot about sex and dating.
Her sister just got married, and I saw that.
I don't know if they went together.
But I thought it was kind of interesting
that he obviously doesn't have a problem with
dating someone in the limelight because he, you know, went from Bethany Frankel, who does a lot on,
you know, social media and everything, and on her podcast to another girl who's huge on social media
and podcasting. And, you know, I just thought that was just kind of interesting because people always think, Oh, he probably
couldn't take it anymore. No, you know, just like if Ben and
Jen actually break up, he'll probably go for another actress
who's out there. Probably he will. Okay. This was kind of
funny. So Taylor Swift had her show in Dublin, and Travis
showed up. Some people thought she didn't know he was coming
and she was surprised, but in the seats,
Julia Roberts was there and people took photos
and thought that she was a little too close
in talking to Travis.
I'm like, okay, enough already.
It's loud, she's talking to him, she has kids.
You don't know what she's saying.
She doesn't, you don't know if she's saying, oh, my son is the biggest fan of yours or whatever. She's not trying to bone Travis.
Okay. So just relax everybody. Then there was another article. Oh, Travis Kelsey had a boys
night out with Leonardo DiCaprio and Tristan Thompson. And then I read the article, and it's like a private dining
club in LA.
And it was a night celebrating a bunch of these guys,
or it was a guys-only night or something.
But they did not come together in a car
or even leave together in a car.
They saw them come out, and they came out at different times to leave. So I'm like,
what are you doing? Like even if they're like, oh hey, how are you doing? Like it's not like
guys night out. I just feel like, look, I've talked a lot about it, but that was a lame article.
Okay. I loved this because one of my Juicy Scoopers said that I have to start monetizing these ideas.
And one of my Juicy Scoopers said that I have to start monetizing these ideas. You know I have talked about how there should be a scripted show much like Unreal did with
The Bachelor, where it was a show about the making of The Bachelor with the producers
and everything behind the scenes.
I've been saying that should happen with The Real Housewives.
Well, it is. And Jennifer Lawrence
is starring in A Real Housewives Inspired Murder Mystery for Apple.
So another thing, I mean, this is a great idea for a scripted show. I don't care that
I that someone took my idea. I've told people to take my idea so that I can enjoy these
kind of shows. But I love it if it is a behind the scenes, like the woman is on the real on a real
housewife show and we see the producers and everybody calling her her fake
fighting with her friend and then like her husband gets murdered and maybe she
is a suspect and all the housewives talk about it or I I think always, I've always thought it really,
here's another storyline, make it happen.
I always thought it'd be really juicy
if there was a movie where like two women
hate their husbands and they want them dead
and they each kill the other one's husband.
So somehow it can't get tracked back to them.
Like they either hire someone to kill, it just something where they go, okay, our pact is we hate our husbands, but we're
going to kill each other's so that it can't. So we didn't kill our own. I don't know.
That could be really juicy too for this story. I don't know what it is. It's going to be
juicy and good. Lisa Renna. I don't know why she was doing like an Andy Warhol look. She has
this wig on. But other people said that she started to look a lot like her
husband Harry Hamlin. And I do find it interesting, plastic surgery not, when a
couple who's been together for a really long time start to look like each other.
I find that fascinating. Cherie, she by Cheray, was stopped by TMZ and she's very
worried about the real Houses of Atlanta.
She says it's going downhill.
She's done on it.
Candy's done on it.
Now Kenya's kicked off of it.
I don't even know what's going to happen with that show, but I feel like a lot of the shows
are kind of in jeopardy as far as The Real Housewives, and we don't know what is happening
with them.
Meanwhile, Kim Zolciak, she went on The Surreal Life. And the reports are that she got into flirtatious,
got into a flirtatious thing with Chet Hanks, son of Tom Hanks. This is kind of the one
that's like kind of troubled and he's like a rapper and he's all tatted up and he's
been saying weird things for a long time. Anyway, they just might be a match made in heaven. But I will
definitely be watching this show. This is one of those, like, you know, kind of like
the villain, they put the people on the show, they all live in a house. And this one, the
original Surreal Life was not about competitions and making money. It was just being on the
show. That's what I remember. And I remember it was like Corey Feldman
and it was Vern Troyer, that little guy from Austin Powers.
And I remember he got so wasted.
He had an alcohol problem and he like rolled off this bed
and it was just the most amazing show.
And it was like the beginning of
reality TV and especially putting celebrities on reality TV. And it was the real life and now it's
back. So I don't know that'll ever be as juicy, you know, 15, 20 years later, but I'm excited to
watch it. Kanye West is being sued yet again, this time for alleged abusive work conditions, including using racist
language and calling employees, some as young as 14, slaves. I don't understand who the employees
are in California that are under 14, unless they're singers and actors maybe, then they're child
actors. But they can't, you can't have like 14 yearolds making as easy shoes. So I don't understand where this is coming from.
But they say it's forced labor and cruel, inhumane, or degrading treatment.
The suit claims the employees were coerced into signing nondisclosure statements and
threatened with termination if they refused.
Also, it says that Bianca, Kanye's wife, is also accused of sending
explicit videos to underage employees and the allegations add to a series of legal troubles
and financial concerns surrounding us. I mean, very, very bizarre. I don't really understand
who are these underage kids, but of course, remember he was going to start a porn channel. So I don't, he was going to call it Yeezy Porn. I don't know if in creating Yeezy Porn, if maybe some porn
was like sent to people that were working for him. So bizarre. And we still don't know
what the hell is going on with her or what her motivation is. But she was with North
in Japan at like a pig cafe where they were just enjoying like
coffee and like little pigs run around like a cat cafe. And she was just wearing like a
ballet outfit. She had like a leotard and tights, which is weird out, but at least
the tights were like not sheer and she actually had her crotch covered because she was wearing a leotard. So that's good hanging out with North.
All right, now for some fun topics
with the hilarious Mean Gays.
You know them best as the Mean Gays.
This is an incredible persona
and TikTok viral sensation, comedic duo.
The beauty is that the real people behind the characters
are not mean.
No, they are not.
Welcome back, Aaron and Jake.
Welcome back.
I wonder if you're being performative trying to say,
you guys, they're so nice.
They're so nice.
They chill out.
They don't realize that we threatened her
with blackmail beforehand.
And also it is, we are in July,
so Pride has concluded. So we are straight now.
So we are no longer gay at this moment.
That's right. And happy about it.
It is July 1st, and I woke up saying,
why, why do I want to date women now?
This is insane.
I'm glad we're back to our hetero ways.
I was looking forward as a gay man to seeing you today because it's like,
oh my God, I love Heather MacDonald
and Juicy Skate, we get to gossip.
But now I was looking forward
because I knew you'd be wearing a cleavage shirt.
And I said, that's what I, as a straight man,
that's what I wanna see.
You look incredible today.
I just wanna point out, as always,
but it's just so cute.
Well, I felt it was appropriate to have you in July
because I know a lot of people will stop booking gays
once Pride is over.
And I just want people to know that's not me
and that's not Juicy Scoop.
I don't care about your sexuality and what month it is.
That's so hard.
You actually refused to have us during Pride Month.
You said.
We won't book you at all.
I won't book you during Pride Month because I'm an ally.
And I was like, that's confusing, but sure.
Can I tell you something shocking, though?
Not a single brand worked with us over the month of June.
Can you believe that?
No, let's talk about that.
This whole year, I think brands were like a little fatigued
from last year getting shit on so much.
Because you know the whole queer washing situation?
How would you, what does that mean?
All these brands were getting shit on
because brands, the second June starts,
they're like gay or like LGBTQ.
They're accused of being inauthentic.
So this month, this year, I think they were like,
we've gotta chill out.
I think also a lot of them were getting called out
by the queer community to say like,
okay, so you're gay this month,
but also you donate to
candidates that actively are trying to take away our rights. So maybe, maybe don't take it.
So instead, then nobody got work.
Right.
That's the mother.
I was like, I still want a paycheck, babe.
I'll take your cash.
I do feel like a big part of it, truly,
like the lack of brand deals potentially
was like because of the backlash with like Bud Light last year and everything that like blew the fuck up and I mean I'm sorry I forget it's fine we can
okay great um uh manager just texted oh my god this is such a Hollywood moment yes since the mean gays came on juicy scoop they a manager. We did. So their lives have significantly changed
since you have come on the show.
You guys are blowing it up.
But wait, I wanna get back to,
do you also think that maybe right now,
and I think it's gonna change like in a year or whatever,
that because you guys go by Mean Gays,
that someone who does not get comedy,
which is a lot of people on the internet,
they don't get the humor of it and therefore they were like, I don't know that we want to align with gays that are being branded as mean.
We don't want anyone to think that gays are mean or
you know what I mean? That it's the mean gays.
I think that could be a, I think like I said the the Bud Light stuff,
you know
That was such a horrible experience for Dylan Mulvaney. Yeah, so bad for her and the the outrage was so
Performative from you know
and all those people and kid rock putting a machine gun so like a bunch of
Bud Light awful. I just did a brand deal and
earlier this year with Hanes,
and the comments on there, I would say 95% of them were homophobic and like,
well I'm never wearing Hanes again.
And like, well you lost my business and all that.
And I was like, I wonder if brands are getting more of this
and now are scared to hire LGBT influencers.
Also, I think, and I've talked a lot about this
because I learned so much this year.
I mean, of how things get the propaganda
of whether it's about a war or anti-Semitic or whatever,
I just saw a video of like, you know,
somebody with a million screens in front of them
and how they get engagement and bots and whatever.
So even if, like I even noticed something
when I discussed theories about Princess Kate
before we knew that she had cancer.
And I would get all these accounts being like,
don't talk about, don't. I was on that too.
You were wondering what the truth was, right?
Yeah, like all until that announcement.
Right, and I wasn't saying like, you know,
but I was like, hey, this is what's being discussed.
And because it's being discussed,
I'm letting my audience know that it's interesting.
I didn't say what it was, whatever.
But I was getting a lot of new bots
or whatever they were, comments of, not my regular people's, where I was getting a lot of new bots or whatever they were comments of, not my
regular people's where I'm like, Oh, I think whatever that camp is, like they, they ignite
it to the, and it's not your fans and it's not, they're not, it's kind of not, it could
maybe not be real. Like it's one camp that's just hearing that this is going on and then
they just go after you. And then you're like, well, shit, now I feel like shit or I don't want to do
this anymore. And then the brand is like, well, we certainly don't want to hire him
anymore because look what happened. And that was the goal.
It's a flight risk for everybody. Yeah, that was the goal. It was like, oh, you know, I
mean, it happens. I think the beautiful thing like circling back to like why June was not like as queer washed is because
Being a brand performing with LGBT creators after June
Aside from June that optically looks so good for them
So like work with us all year like I I think I was just not right. I was joking when I said
That's why I hired you know July a thousand, I wasn't. A thousand percent, guys, we were joking.
Well, I had you come out in July.
We're comedians.
No, I just thought of it, yes.
I think it's nice to not be performative
just for this one month.
We're an integral part of this society, work with it.
Our talent is gonna be here every day of the year,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
You better not, I make videos year round.
I'm so into the idea of let's get out get out of just like June being the surge of crazy.
We'll align with you for this month.
Like let's just expand on it.
So with this year kind of being mild,
I was like, okay, I think that's a good thing.
Maybe we-
I think it's a pendulum swing.
I love this one that you guys did,
where you were looking up different.
Well, how would you describe this video?
This video was we were throwing a pride party
and reading rejection DMs from celebrities.
So the mean gays were throwing a pride party.
We were throwing a pride party and nobody came.
And so now we're calling out the celebrities
and canceling them.
And trying to get them canceled.
Exactly.
And did you really write Jojo? No
No, this is entirely scripted entirely fake
It's choice of on responded to us. I would have the entire cast of Bridgerton as the video says no
entirely scripted entirely fake
What how do you feel about?
Jojo's new situation and persona
and what she is doing for gay pop as the inventor of it?
As the inventor of gay pop,
as a gay pop star myself, I just applaud her truly.
I'm like, you did it, you were the first,
I'm glad you did.
The first ever.
In all seriousness though,
we were talking about this the other day,
I think there's a value
of how campy she's coming across.
Yes.
And I told them, I was like, I think there's always
gonna be somebody in the mainstream
that needs to be the brunt of the joke a little bit.
And I don't think she signed up for it,
but I also think she's at an age where
she probably knows what she's doing.
You know?
Well yeah, I mean she's driving around
in a Lamborghini that's wrapped.
That's wrapped with her face.
With her face.
I just wanna like-
And I don't know if you saw that video when we found them.
When my son and I found them.
I sure did.
And we, and I don't think she realized,
I think she just thought I was a weird mom,
like that wanted like her to meet my kids.
But I didn't.
I wanted her to come on Juicy Scoop,
but she just wasn't having.
She's booked and busy.
And, but I also think it's kind of funny
because have you heard Katy Perry's new song
that's been slightly released,
but I think it's fully coming out.
We were just talking about it the other day.
It sounds like an AI copy.
Right, well, so then I wrote my own song.
And-
Are you debuting it right now?
Is that what's happening?
Well, I did it, I put it-
Is that what you brought us here? Well, I did it on... No, I posted it on...
on my Instagram. My son Drake helped me write it.
Wait, your son is Drake?
That's incredible.
Are we allowed to play the Katie snippet and then yours?
Yeah, maybe a little bit. We can try.
Or should I just sing it?
But people, because it's not totally out yet, I'm like, okay your songs out all I'll reput out the video because a lot of people were like wait
What is this but it did get in my head because it goes sexy
confident and
So my is it confident or confident?
Sexy confident. Yeah, you're right. Okay. Okay. So then mine
so mine was Sexy confidence. Yeah, you're right. Okay, so then mine. Those are two different words, I don't know if you know. So mine was sexy Catholic.
Housewife historian.
I can't remember all the words,
but I put it on the thing.
That's already more interesting.
Yeah, I put it out there.
It's doing decent.
Doing better on Instagram than TikTok.
You know how that's always weird.
Sure.
And, but I think the song has to get out and then I, for people to know what I'm
referencing. But I also think, do you think that she-
I heard the clip that you, that I sent you.
That you played.
I didn't think it was real at first.
I didn't either.
Because it was so bad. But now I'm like, it is in my head. So is it like she following the footsteps of like,
so bad it's good just to get people talking
and then the other songs coming out
will be more like her original style.
What I'm hoping is that this is a full PR stunt
to be like, I tricked you girls.
This was actually just AI generated.
Here's the real single.
Yes.
Because it sounds such a carbon copy of any,
like a Macy's commercial would buy that and yeah
I think deal with it. You know what I mean? It's just it's that generic, but she is this woman
She's like I want to embody women. I want to do it in a strengthful way
I'm also kind of vague with my lyricism these days when people do things strengthfully
Yeah, no like strong and soft. That's one of her lyrics like yeah strong and soft
Strong and soft, that's one of her lyrics. It's like, strong and soft.
It's like, what are we?
A Venus commercial?
So soft, so strong.
It's like a Venus commercial, so it's interesting.
Or a toilet paper, like slogan.
Strong and soft, yeah, I don't know.
It's amazing.
For $120 a month, canines and their owners
can gain access to a dog PPL,
a private members only dog park.
So there's dog parks everywhere,
but this is a members only, like a Soho for dogs
and their owners.
And I think this is so genius to make friends,
find romantic partners.
You're talking about the dogs or the dog owners?
Both.
I could not agree more.
There's this huge one called Fetch.
I don't know if it's only in the Southeast.
OK.
But the amount of people I have met.
Is it a private?
It's a little bit private.
You have to pay $20 to get in just on a willy nilly.
I don't know if this is monthly.
This is monthly.
But you have to make sure your canine has all of their tests
so you can just play free.
But the amount of people I know who have met
and networked or even just had sex
from meeting somebody at Fetch has been beautiful.
I'm such a girl about, I lost my dog two years ago,
but the amount of money I would be willing to spend
on that little wild meatloaf is crazy.
Yes.
But I just think it's, I think, especially if you're single, get a dog.
Get a dog and join one of these things.
You're never alone.
Also, you can get out of dates and things by saying, I have to go home to the dog.
I have to walk my dog, yeah.
It's like the greatest thing ever.
How many hot guys walking down the sidewalk with their dog that I would not have had the courage to speak to if they were
Just by the way, but they have the dog and so I say are they friendly
Are you friendly? Yeah, you know like let's let's
Yeah, I think I would get into this business
If you are looking for a business and you don't have one of these in your town
Yeah, you should try to see if you could do this
I also feel like I mean we all like men on this table
But like yeah, I feel like if a man owns a pet of any kind I like trust you a little more
Yeah, you have to care about this. Yeah, you're nurturing something. Yeah, something else. And that's very hot to me.
Right, I totally agree.
And I was talking about this the other day,
especially if they're kind to their animal.
If it's somebody that yells at their dog and shit,
I've definitely had friends or romantic whatever
that they just seem like the best person
and they're like, whatever their dog's name is Jackie get down
Well, I wonder like I wonder if they would like, you know, like just like a regular
discipline but like if that's the only way you speak to your animal then that's like
Well, like at country clubs, you know with like golfers and stuff
you can get this thing called like green carded like you get in trouble if you
Break any rules
or don't wear the right clothes or are rude
or seem like yelling or getting too drunk or whatever.
So I wonder if that would happen with you or the dog.
And then if you got kicked out,
you could say it was my dog and it wasn't me,
but it was probably you.
I guarantee you they have the best stories
of the trauma that's going on behind the scenes. You know, like, which dog bit which dog?
Where was the liability?
I want to know the litigation they've got going on.
You know what I also always thought about COVID?
Like, I can't wait for, like, more stories
to be about, like, COVID time, like, a few years from now.
But, like, how people might have found out
that their spouse was cheating or something
because maybe only two people in the whole neighborhood but like how people might've found out that their spouse was cheating or something
because maybe only two people in the whole neighborhood
had COVID and it was your husband
and this woman over here.
But also you could, if the dogs like
might know each other too much because you're fucking,
you could say, no, our dogs know each other
from the dog park.
Like it could be a good cover up.
Because like your partner could be like,
how does, why does your dog seem so excited
when that lady walks by with her dog?
And then he could just be like,
but it's because they've like,
because the dogs have seen them fuck.
But it could be, no, we go to the private dog club
and they're friends.
This reminds me, have you seen those videos on TikTok
of like, it's a, you know, usually a woman
like carrying a camera and the caption is like
catching my husband with somebody from work
and it's like, hello, and they're like at a restaurant,
the husband's immediately like, and it's like,
what's going on?
She's a friend from work, she's a friend,
I don't know where work, and I didn't tell you
because I knew you'd do this.
And I'm just like, I think so.
I know.
That shit gives me so much anxiety.
Oh, right, yeah.
It's always, and it's also, they always,
I know people whose husband has cheated with someone at work
and they do that thing where they talk about
how much they hate them, and then she found out
they're having an affair the whole time. Like you'd be like. As a cover up talking about how much they hate them, and then she found out they're having an affair
the whole time.
Like you'd be like,
yeah like, oh she's so annoying.
I hate my boss.
Oh my god, I can't even,
I don't even wanna deal with this chick.
And the whole time they were screwing.
Scandalous.
And it's like weird.
I don't understand that kind of lying,
but anyway, this cutie,
Daddy.
Matt.
Do you say Boomer?
Boomer or Boomer? Or Booner? Is he gay? Yeah, 100%. This cutie, Matt Bomer.
It's Bomer.
Or Bo-ner.
Is he gay?
Yeah, 100%.
I just wanna make sure.
Yes, yes.
Would you have a problem if he wasn't getting cast in this?
Because this is a gay series.
I don't have an opinion on that.
Just because I, I mean, I don't know how you feel.
I'm here for talent getting cast in.
Yeah, I agree.
If you can fulfill a role better than somebody in the community, I personally't know how you feel. I'm here for talent, getting casted. Yeah, I agree. If you can fulfill a role better than somebody
in the community, I personally think you should get it.
Like, that's just the way I feel.
I definitely think there's been times
where I've seen a talent that was left out of casting,
and I genuinely, from the outside, was like,
this person who is in the community
would have played just as great, if not a better part in, let's say,
Call Me By Your Name, you know, or whatever it is.
But I try to like, kind of take it easy on that,
because I feel like casting is crazy altogether.
Like, I could never cast.
It seems insanely difficult.
He's gorgeous and cute and gay.
And according to this, they are saying
there's going to be a new scripted series
about like taking the Golden Girls idea,
but for, I guess, older gay men.
But he's not old, so I don't know what his role is.
Maybe he's a son of the old gay.
I think he's late 40s, honestly.
I mean, he's so gorgeous.
I love the idea of the Palm Springs scripted show
around older gays.
Ross Matthews needs to be on that.
Oh, Ross.
Because he reps Palm Springs more than anyone I've ever met.
Ross has been saying, Ross has been manifesting
that he will be the mayor of Palm Springs one day.
And I will be there the day he is.
And I think he definitely has a star already.
Yeah.
And so, yeah.
He needs to be on the show and then I kind of want to fight
for us to be on that. He'll definitely do a guest role because he's a regular on Drew so I don't think he can do it.
But he'll definitely get a guest role.
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I'm also watching this new,
what I like to call real estate porn.
It is on Netflix.
Ryan Serhan was on Bravo's Million Dollar Listing New York for years. And then
now he has his own show. And I think Bravo's got to be kind of pissed that the best real
estate shows now. Now I'm good friends with Josh Flagg. His that show is the only real
estate show left on Bravo, which is Million Dollar Listing LA. But Selling Sunset is on Netflix, O.C. and Regular.
There's also...
There was like Selling Tampa.
There was Selling Tampa, there was a London show,
there was also a Buying Beverly Hills with Mauricio Kyle's,
soon to be ex-husband or whatever they are.
And now this one, which is about New York.
So I started watching this and I loved it.
Okay, I thought it was off the wall.
I don't know.
So much so, I was like, this has to be a scripted series.
I started it last night and I got three episodes.
Okay, so one of the things in it
for the first couple of episodes is there's these,
of course, he's got a bunch of agents working for him,
but of course they cast ones that will be exciting to watch that are young and sexy.
And and then there's got to be that competition.
It's very much like selling sunset and getting listings and stuff from people from the honcho.
And this one guy does a podcast with this other girl and they start ripping on some of the other agents.
And that causes a big riff with everybody.
And I saw a couple comments sent to me about it,
and I was watching it too.
Did this podcast actually really happen?
Literally.
Did it happen or did they think to do it
and then they removed it anyway,
but they filmed it and they were like,
just rip on each other.
Because it just kind of made no sense and then no one could find the podcast episode. But I but they filmed it and they were like, just rip on each other. Because it just kind of made no sense
and then no one could find the podcast episode.
But I think they say in it, oh, we removed it.
But you kind of wonder like, okay,
here are the things that are gonna start drama.
You're gonna go to a podcast,
you're gonna talk shit about each other
because that's what everyone does.
And then we'll have a little bit of drama among the agents.
I don't doubt it.
What I also learned recently is a lot of those like TikTok
and Instagram videos,
videos where it looks like people are on a podcast
and maybe it's like a doctor or they're selling a supplement
or talking about something that those are completely fake.
It's not a real podcast that exists
or a real podcast episode.
It's an ad, but they're so smart to make it seem like
more legitimate of like, oh, this person was on
a very famous podcast that's well produced.
And it's like, no, they just took footage
of two people on microphones.
They do that a lot with Joe Rogan.
Where Joe, they'll show it and if you really look,
you can see the lips aren't matched.
It's like an AI thing and it's his voice.
And it'll be like, have you heard about
these people eating raspberries?
And then it'll go to the guy saying,
yeah, and then, oh, these raspberry gummies or whatever.
And so then people think that he had this guy
on his podcast and we should buy these raspberry gummies
to stay fit.
And I've seen it with him a lot.
Wow.
And I'm like, this never was a real episode. This guy wasn't really on it. Yeah. I totally seen it with him a lot. Wow. And I'm like, this never was a real episode.
This guy wasn't really on it.
Yeah.
I totally get it.
It should be partially scripted,
or at least these producers should totally
help him stay in line.
But there's one scene, I don't know if you remember this,
he's filming on top of the Empire State Building,
and he gets a call in the middle,
and he finds out that he was not able to sell
his $250 million list.
Oh, $250 million penthouse, yeah.
Penthouse. And they got it perfectly while he's on the top of the Empire State building.
And then he goes through this whole dilemma of like, I've got to get all composed again
to get back on camera and just kind of trying to show his craft. And it was just so fraudulent.
It was crazy.
Well, he did say he came out to New York to be an actor.
I did not know that.
Real estate and acting, I was a realtor while I pursued acting.
People that get out of acting go to real estate and people that are pursuing, want to really
be an actor now can get their license and be on a TV show quicker than it would be to
get over here.
I know multiple actors that are real estate agents because they're just great.
Yes.
But also it's such a thirsty thing with your face on signs and bus benches and everything
and I can attest to doing all of it.
So okay, so J.Lo and Ben.
You know, she...
Is this real?
I, okay, I've heard so many different things.
Now they're saying they are selling this house, but it's because it was her house
or it was never their houses together or whatever,
but it's also $60 million
and maybe they're just selling it.
It doesn't look like it's good.
I don't know that it's done,
but it definitely seems like they're going through
like a hiccup.
What are your thoughts?
I think first my manager, Evan, wants me to always say
he thinks I look like Ben Affleck.
You're like the young gay Ben Affleck.
Yeah you are kind of.
And I live for that.
Everybody apparently, he's going everyone.
So he just wanted me to say that.
But I also think with this, like,
this photo I really look like Ben Affleck.
Just like if you wanna zoom in.
It's just a striking.
Here just turn to the side.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I still don't see it.
Look miserable.
Yeah, good.
Yeah, I think somebody get that.
Eddie Murphy said that he was offered Coke one night
by Robin Williams and John Belushi,
but he turned it down and he's never done coke and he was like,
thank God that I never fell into that.
He doesn't need it.
Have you seen that man's energy?
Can I just say it was the 80s?
I feel like I know tons of people
who have tried coke, done coke,
and they didn't have to become addicted.
I think this was just a story that he was kind of like...
Is he trying to call himself a superhero?
I think it's just a story to tell.
You're right, I don't know.
It's just a random story.
I don't know.
I'm like, I don't know.
Do you think you look good for that?
Because like, okay, cool.
I know, I'm like, well, who cares?
Well, I mean, they are both dead
and they both had demons, one OD'd and one ended his life.
And the sad truth is a lot of times they self-medicate
with drug use.
Right, so I think he was saying like,
he was 19 at the time, and he just,
and he said, I wasn't judging, I just never did it.
And I never did it, and I'm like, thank God I didn't,
because I'm here today and I never fell down a path
of being addicted, and I've never tried it either
I never tried it because I always thought this would be I loved
movies about cocaine I loved the glam who doesn't I loved like that it was always like a girl like a skinny dress
And I was like, less than zero and all that. And I was like, if I get into it,
I just think something that's gonna curb my appetite,
maybe we wanna stay up all night and talk about myself
is just gonna be too tempting for me.
I could become addicted, and so I never tried it.
So also, a good friend of mine who does recreationally,
occasionally use coke, told me that it's basically just like, it's not like in the
movies where it's like, this crazy high, you're hallucinating, it's kind of just like keeps
you awake and so you're just more awake as an instant cup of coffee kind of thing times
10.
And I was like, oh, that doesn't seem super necessary
for me to ever be, like, really consider using.
Like, I'll either go to sleep or have an espresso martini.
Or have an espresso and, yeah.
It's the best of both worlds and it's delicious.
I don't think I have the desire to ever use cocaine
if it's literally just cocaine.
Well now, and now with all the dangerous stuff that could be put into it, like of course
you should never do it.
People are dying.
Do it Red Bull.
Now that I'm reading it, I feel like he's coming at it and like I'm really thankful
and grateful and it could have been like I would have taken it too far.
But I just know, I guess I know tons of people, I'm also a sober girly pop, I know tons of
people who like can do a hard drug,
be in a world of experimentation
and they don't have to go anywhere past that.
And they're not like, I survived.
You know what I mean?
It's just kinda like, they're like, I just, I try drugs.
There's also talk that they're gonna bring back
Beverly Hills Cop.
It's back. It's already on billboards, yeah.
Yeah.
The film is made.
Oh, the film's already made?
There's billboards on Hollywood Boulevard. Oh, I made. Oh the films already made there's billboards on Hollywood
I didn't even know that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's amazing. So that's what he's promoting
We're giving you the juice is interesting way to promote that
I will say one thing about Eddie Murphy. I've never met him
but he is one of the main reasons I became a comedian because, and for all the right reasons,
because I've told this story to people,
but I don't know if I've said it on here in a while,
but I was like 10 or something, and I was watching,
I could watch whatever I wanted on TV.
There was no restrictions.
I was the youngest of five, so my parents would do whatever.
And I was watching a call-in show,
like an interview call-in show with him,
and this woman called in and she said,
I just am so excited to tell you,
because I wanna tell you the story, Eddie.
She's like, I had the worst thing ever happen to me
in my life a couple years ago, my son died.
And that day I said, I will never laugh again.
And she turned on the TV and she saw him doing
his character Gumby, where he's like the smoking Gumby character from SNL, and he, and she laughed.
And I remember watching that as a kid and I was like, if I can make someone laugh on their worst
day, that is why I want to do it. So when people say, oh, when did you know you wanted to be
comedian or why do you do it? I always, I'm like, oh, I hope one day I can tell Eddie that, because I really,
it was so, you do.
I really do, I think that's so genuinely special.
I have a very similar feeling with Jamie Foxx,
because he always put music into his sets as well,
and his abundant talent blew me away at a really young age,
not to mention he's just one of the most beautiful men
I've ever seen in my entire life.
So there's like actual like a sexualness to it as well.
But that feeling is so big.
And I think you even saying this now,
I cannot wait to hear the day that you get to tell him that.
That's really special.
I think for me at a young age,
it was Eddie Murphy and Jim Carrey.
And like I threw out high school, and even very occasionally now,
my manager's one of them.
I get like, you resemble Jim Carrey,
especially when I'm really doing up the facial expressions.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, the two of them just were such comedy icons
and inspiration.
That was around the time that like,
Nutty Professor and with Jim Carrey with Ace Ventura
and just all the like huge comedy hits of the 90s.
Well, I'm excited.
I'll definitely go see that movie again.
I didn't realize it was already out and done.
I think it's on Netflix.
I think it's coming out.
I don't think it's out yet.
Okay, this last story and then we will wrap it up.
This is crazy story.
There is this guy, his name's Kyle.
Philipowski.
How do you say it?
Philipowski.
Philipowski.
He has a fiance named Caitlin Hutchinson.
Hutchinson.
Yeah.
Unrelated to Josh Hutchinson.
Anyway, he just graduated from Duke,
and he's in the draft, the NBA draft.
And the story is very strange in that all of a sudden,
he didn't have a good day on the first draft,
then he got with Utah.
So I guess that's bad if you don't get picked the first day.
Okay?
Anyway, I figure it's like a sorority rush or something.
It's like a sorority rush or whatever.
Anyway, so he did get with Utah
and he is marrying this woman,
but all of a sudden his brother starts tweeting stuff,
I'm the older brother,
and we feel that he was groomed by this fiance
because she not only,
there's reports that she at one time was his babysitter,
but she definitely went to the prom
with him and there was discrepancy about her age
where she said she was younger, but then people found
her high school graduation photo.
And to make a long story short, according to the research
that was done, she went to his prom, senior prom
when he was 17, when she was 26.
Nine years old, a full, whoa.
So they've been together that long.
Here's the prom photo.
Whoa.
Yeah, he looks like a baby and she looks mid-20s.
And in the prom, one of the comments that she said
in one of these things is, no, but like,
in the post that they found, she said, here's to the best
this last year with you, meaning that they might've even been dating when he was 16.
Now they may have never had sex because I think they're like very Christian, but he
was 17 and she was probably 25 or 26.
So now if, so there's nothing, you know, hey, it's not a big age difference now.
It just really was then.
And in five years, it's gonna mean even less.
When he's like 25 and she's like 32,
no one's gonna care.
But, you know, it's a big deal.
Just like it was a big deal when the Prime Minister
or President of France or whatever,
you know, he married his teacher.
Didn't know that either. I was not aware of that.
What was their age difference?
Oh, she was like 40,
and he was like in the school like 16.
And they had an affair,
and she was married,
and then she got,
she left the school,
he went on to do, you know, his thing,
and then they got back together.
So she's like in her early 60s,s and he's in his late 40s.
How do you feel about this?
I mean, I feel it's wrong, just like I would with a man.
I feel it's totally wrong.
Just like the Mary Kay Letourneau thing,
but then when they end up together later on
and it goes on for another 20 years,
you're like, well, I don't know,
but no, it's definitely wrong.
It definitely screws up a boy's brain
to be with a woman that old, whether it's a teacher.
Did you see the movie May December?
Yeah, that was the Mary Kay Laterno thing.
Oh, okay, okay, I forgot the name.
That's based on that, yeah.
And yeah, I think it's, no, I think it's totally fucked up.
But now I'm like, what's weird is that like,
they are saying that like, because of her involvement,
that she's isolating him from the brother
and the mom and the family,
because he is gonna be making so much money in the NBA.
Yeah, whoa.
Oh, like you're almost thinking her intent is like,
he's gonna be a money machine as well as like.
Yeah, but now I'm almost like, if I was, if this is the case, I'd be like, look, I'm not gonna be able to convince my son not to marry the girl that he's gonna be a money machine. As well as like. Yeah, but now I'm almost like if I was,
if this is the case, I'd be like, look,
I'm not gonna be able to convince my son
not to marry the girl that he's been with since he was 17.
So we better just accept her.
So that we can go to the games and have our kid
and just be like, yeah, it was fucking weird,
but if this is who you wanna marry,
like I don't think I'd want,
and especially if my son's gonna be like,
you know, making millions, millions of dollars,
I wanna go to the games. I feel like there's a weird. I don't want him'd want, and especially if my son's gonna be making millions, millions of dollars, I wanna go to the games.
I don't want him to buy me a house.
There's a weird side on the gay community as well,
as far as terms between couples,
because there's a lot of age difference.
And then, I remember when I was 16,
the amount of 25 and 30 year olds that I wanted to date, but you optically look at it
now that I'm a 30 year old man, there would be no way.
So you can look at it on both sides
and try to have a level of sympathy
or a devil's advocate for it and say,
when I was that young, I thought I was geared up
to date a 25 year old.
But as a 25 year old, you've got to be for real with yourself.
There's always going to be an imbalance, whether it's because of the age difference, regardless
of the gender, there's going to be a huge imbalance where there can be a manipulation
that you're not even aware of.
And no matter how, oh, she's mature, he's mature, or whatever.
But I'm saying, if it's this much far down the road
and now everybody's over 18 and he wants to marry her,
I'd be like, and they are engaged,
I'm just saying as the family, I'd be like,
I wouldn't have put it out all on Twitter in an angry thing.
A thousand people.
I don't have that brain and those instincts.
So even for me, seeing somebody on a dating app that's 25,
I'm like, and they're very clearly an adult,
or Tom Holland, for instance,
I think is a very handsome man,
and now he's 25, 26 or something.
But the first time I ever saw him
was with Naomi Watts in The Impossible,
where he's under the age of 15.
And so it's very hard for my brain to now switch and say.
Oh, because now he is old, yeah.
Right, and to now switch and be like,
he's an attractive man that I would, whatever.
And I'm just like, it still feels gross to me
even though he's very clearly above the age of 18.
And then also they were saying that they didn't think
he got picked the first round because of this.
And this drama, like teams were just like.
I wouldn't doubt it, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, listen, I'm gonna let you guys go.
Tell everybody where you can be found
and what is going on with you guys
and where they can follow you.
So we've got some exciting news.
You can find me at Jake Jones with a Z on all socials.
And I'm Aaron Goldieboy.
The most upcoming news is I have an album dropping on 7-Eleven,
so that's like soon. I'm so excited.
Oh, God, we're gonna be in competition with Sexy Catholic.
Hey, you know, maybe we can do a feature.
Let's not make a competition. Let's work it out on the remix.
And can I ask, is Catholic three separate words?
It's three separate syllables. C-a-t-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h- Cath. O-L-I-C-K.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, got it.
Yeah.
But then, Aaron, tell them where you can find your...
You can find me at Aaron Goldieboy.
We also haven't announced it anywhere on socials,
and we don't have like exact dates and details,
but we are currently negotiating doing a comedy tour, seven stops,
I think mostly along the East Coast,
a little bit later this year, so definitely follow us
and we'll put out details of that.
That could be so fun.
So excited, so, so excited.
I've got a couple shows coming out,
specifically this year on Apple TV Plus.
The first one, the first episode drops,
I believe July 15th, it's called Me,
about a young boy with superpowers,
and I play a waiter in like the fifth episode,
but it's a longer role.
They're at the restaurant for a while, so.
And then I'm in a show called Bad Monkey,
which premieres in the middle of August,
and both of those are on Apple TV Plus.
So you're killing it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't wait to go out
and kiss every person on the lips, you know?
You know what I mean?
I can't wait to just touch people.
Well, you better not.
On our tour.
You better not.
Maybe not lip clisses for everyone.
What was in this coffee?
My gosh.
Thank you so much, you guys.
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