Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Lala Kent on The Valley, RHOBH and The Bachelor Breakup

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

Lala Kent is here! Trial date for Blake vs Justin is set for March 26! What did Justin’s voice note really mean? Lala is 6 years sober and gives her perspective on PK’s sponsor suggesting he separate from Dorit. Did Kyle ever eat Morgan’s cookie? Then, I explain The Bachelor's Matt James' abrupt break up with Rachel Kirkconnell and the juiciest part that no one is talking about. Why is it so hard to find a good guy these days? Will RHONY recast? Brittany Cartwright is free from Jax Taylor and Lala gives us the scoop on Brittany's b-day party and how she is doing as a single mom. Enjoy! Go to https://MeUndies.com/juicyscoop and enter promo code juicyscoop to get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping Join Kravit Jewelers in making a difference. Together, we can help protect LA’s beloved pets and wildlife. Visit https://KravitJewelers.com to learn more or purchase your pendant today.  Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald on iTunes, the podcast app, and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPodApple  https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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badass body, Amazon live queen, a reality star, sister, daughter, and total delight. Sometimes. Everybody, welcome back, Lala Kent. Hello, my love. You know, I will only do your podcast. I appreciate that.

I get in too much trouble. Look what happened to me yesterday. Oh, he was there. Apparently someone's so ugly, okay? No, yeah. I think you look good without makeup on. Well, thank you. You know what?

I may catch you, where is this? This is at Calabasas Starbucks. So I think that the TMZ was waiting for someone more exciting, but I walked out. No, I didn't have makeup. I was on my way to get a facial from my girl, Susanna Menendez, Calabasas facials, okay? So I didn't have makeup on and I was getting a coffee,

but they're asking me about the thing I've been talking a lot about, Ryan Reynolds, Justin Bell-Donny, like Lively. Since I did the show just a couple days ago, the voicemail came out, the voice note that he left for her. What did it say? Well, he sounds sexy as shit, okay? So everyone's like getting wet listening to him.

I'm like, is this cat on cameo, what can we do? And he left this, he released it. And I thought he had to save it, but I guess if it's a voice memo that you send to somebody, it automatically saves on your phone, which I did not know. Because I'm like, if I left you a voicemail, I would never know how to retrieve that. Oh, it's like a voice, it's not a voice memo, it's a voicemail, like a message? No, it wasn't a voicemail, it's a voice memo. And's not a voice memo. It's a voice mail like a message. No, it wasn't a voice mail It's a voice memo and somehow he had it, you know from like two years ago

And so my initial thought was what compelled him to Save it. He released it on his own. It was just yeah, he's releasing all the evidence from his 400 thousand four hundred million dollar lawsuit which apparently Someone discovered that Blake and Justin are worth $100 million. Okay. And so this is four times what they're worth that he's suing them for. And he put it out, he shared this because some people thought it sounded too sexy because he has such a sexy voice.

Right. And it was six minutes long and he's like, Blake, I hope I'm not waking you up right now. I just want to say, man, I'm so sorry if you're not feeling supportive because God, I don't want that. I don't want that. You've shared so much. You were vulnerable about, you know, other directors.

I want you to be part of this. My love to Ryan. And what he's responding to is when she said, my two dragons, Ryan and Taylor Swift, helped me rewrite this rooftop scene and gave it to him. And he was like, yeah, I like the changes. And then she wrote back something, the effect of like, I wish, I don't know how I feel about that, I wish you were more specific, like what you liked about it, what you didn't.

So she left that text to him at 1.44 a.m. And then he chose to just leave her a voice note instead. Quicker. Yeah. And so he did that. And so to clear up any confusion, some people still think it was creepy because he was like, oh, God, I'm sorry. Maybe you've got kids crawling on you.

You probably have a baby on your boob because she was breastfeeding at the time. So people thought that was a little invasive. At the same time, though, there's evidence that she was like, yeah, come into my trailer. I'm pumping or I'm breastfeeding. And she was OK with, I'm sure, having herself covered, but doing that while she was talking about notes. So he was establishing this, how close and how accommodating he was. And he was placating her changes and really wanting to make this work. What is she saying that he has done? Because it's a sexual harassment.

So that's, she had put out this complaint about all the different times that she felt uncomfortable that he said strange things, that he tried to kiss her neck when it wasn't called for in the script. Okay. When there was, you know, there was, but then in his counter suit, he really has combated every single one of her complaints. Okay. So now the biggest thing is, and listen, I know I've talked a lot about this, so we're

going to talk about other things with Lala today, but the biggest thing is, the juiciest part of it that I touched upon in my last episode, but now I really think it's a thing, is that there's a sequel to this book. It ends with us, it starts with us, and it's about she and the character of Justin, Blake and Justin, if they were to both stay on it. Now co-parenting. I was there, they could both stay in it. Yeah, co-parenting.

But he has the rights to the second book. And the writer has been very much from the beginning, now she's gone silent, team Blake and Ryan. And so now the idea is, apparently there is something in his deal in which he has the rights to the second movie. Okay. If he can lose those rights, if he violates any kind of morality clause,

and specifically it's sexual harassment. So the theory is- The whole book really is about abuse, right? Right. So the theory is- The whole book really is about abuse, right? Right. And so it's crazy. So then, so now the thought is, was this exaggerated brought on

in attempt to have him lose his rights to the second movie? So she and her husband can be in it? Or take it over or, you know, recast him or be in charge of the movie. Cause right now it's in his hands and it's Or take it over. Or, you know, recast him or be in charge of the movie. Because right now it's in his hands and it's staying in his hands. And apparently he'd already been offered to sell it and he said no.

Do you think that this will be like covered by media, kind of like the Amber Heard, Johnny Depp? Well, as of two days ago, I predicted that they would settle at a court. But just yesterday, they have a settle at a court, but just yesterday, they have a date, a court date. Okay. But it's not for March of 26.

Oh, shit. It's over a year. People that are already sick of this, I mean, we got to move on. But anyway. I think they'll settle it. Just because there's a court date, you could settle it. You can settle the day before your court date. I think they should.

I think they should figure something out and be like, you know, but I think the damage is done. But like I said before, people recover. Just go away for like a year. And everyone will forget. Everyone will forget that you were kind of a dick. The news cycle just moves very quickly. Not Justin.

Oh, is Ryan Reynolds a dick? Yeah. You need to listen to Juicy's. I've talked too much about it. I'm not gonna bore my people. I've got Lala in here and Lala and I watched... I'll go back and listen. I'll go back and listen. ...watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And tell me what you're thinking of this season. Well, I'm obsessed with Beverly Hills every season.

Even when they have kind of like an off season, I will never give up. Never. I think it's great. I feel really badly for Kyle right now. No, you do. I do. You're one of the few. Really?

Yeah, I don't think she's getting a lot of love right now. Because of the text message? Yes, and just people are like tired of her shit or whatever. But what shit? I don't get it. Here's the thing, and I love Dury too. This is one of very few casts where I'm like, I literally like, like no one really annoys me.

I love everyone for their quirky, weird little ways. Sutton kills me. But there was, I think it was last night on Watch Happens Live and they cut to a clip of Garcelle being like, I think Kyle's a little lost right now. No fucking shit, Sherlock. She's been in a relationship for 27 years. She's always known herself as a wife and a mom. Her baby just turned 16, and she's looking at her life

going, this was not the game plan. Of course you're gonna be a little confused and lost. And I feel like no one's giving her any grace. Well, that's what I love about Erika Jayne in the last year, but especially this past season. Love it. I love that her voice has changed. It's not the same voice even. And I love it because she's just like a cool shit. She's cool as shit. She's the voice of reason.

She's a good girlfriend. And she says, so they go to lunch. And Kyle is there, and she is there to apologize to Sutton Garcell and Erica to say, like, I got really upset at the Manly Hands massage day. Yeah, I wanted to be there. Between the chef and the, have they called them a chef? I've had manly hands come to an event of mine. Really? Years ago. Is it good?

So good. Fuck. So good. Let's do it. I was like, where was my invite? Screw the next- I would have let them all run train. I know Ocean's birthday is coming up,

but maybe we have Ocean's birthday, but we also have manly hands for the moms. Come to the slime place where the kids make slime. No, do it at your house and get all, have them do this, have the kids stuff, and then the moms can get a little manly hands in the corner. I love this idea.

Yes. Because I was getting off in that scene. I was like, oh my God. I know. We're all really, really hot. But she stood by the sentiment. She just didn't stand behind her, like leaving in a huff and puff.

Right, so she was like, I'm sorry. And Sutton was being so awful. Well, I don't understand what exactly are you sorry for? It was like, am I making sense? Yeah, it was so weird. It was just like, what did you say that you're sorry for? And it's like, I was like, I'm sorry.

Are we, is she up for murder? And Sutton is like the bad cop that comes in and she's on like hour five until the finally point, like I was just gonna admit to like killing someone she didn't. Cause it was just like, she was like, okay. So, and I'm like, and killing someone she didn't. Cause it was just like, she was like, okay. So, and I'm like, and then she says it, then you can relate to this being a reality star,

where I'm like, no, for some reason, she acts like they are all working at a factory and Kyle got to leave before the whistle blew. Like she was literally like, why do you get to walk out? Whatever, it's a good scene. Anybody, any normal person would walk out at that point. I understood, cause you know when you're kind of being pushed in a corner and you don't know how to defend yourself

because there's nothing to defend? That is the worst position to be put in. It's like, I don't even know what to say to make this look, because there's nothing that I did wrong. Like I don't know how to defend something that doesn't need defending. I didn't think Kyle behaved poorly at all in that moment. You know, she didn't think she was doing anything wrong. You can analyze it or not.

She spent 27 years with Moe and then she's going to like be with PK. No, I mean, but I did think, yeah, she should have recognized you stopped communication. I actually talked about you in a previous episode because I was like, when you had your breakup with your ex and I was friendly with him and then I had to be like, I'm not talking to him anymore. And that was it, like right in the very, very beginning

when I didn't know what anything was wrong and he was like, you have to talk to Lala. And I was like, what? Yeah, I know, I'm very... So I was like right off the bat, very beginning, when I didn't know what anything was wrong, and he was like, you have to talk to Lala. And I was like, what? Yeah, I know, I'm very far. So I was like right off the bat, I was like, and then I remember I was going through a Starbucks drive-through and you were like, I need to, I'm asking all my friends, like, can you not?

And I'm like, oh, it's been weeks and I will never. So, but I can see, you know, she might've thought it wasn't as contentious, their breakup, and it was okay, and it was just, but regardless, no. And we see last night that she kind of goes, OK, I got it. Stick with the girl. But what I loved about Erica Jane is, Erica's in her interview is like, Garcelle,

you did a public announcement by sending an email to all of CAA that your husband was cheating with this woman for five years in Chicago. And Sutton, we were, I'm guessing you didn't have a great breakup and we still don't really know much about it. So you both have been through a divorce. Like, why are you not giving her a little grace? And, you know, and Erica went through the worst situation. And so I love that Erica is like the only one like she's being nice to Dorit. She's being nice to like she's the only voice of reason and like a girl's girl like a cool woman that's like been through some shit. Like it's very nice to see.

It's very nice to see. But I understand why Dorit is having her moment. There's something about and the Bravo fan base, they're definitely intelligent, like that's just a known fact. Yeah. But they do love a scorned woman who is angry, because they fucked with me hard season 10, when I was scorned out for fucking blood, I was taking no prisoners.

They loved me. They do not like a compassionate, calm. Has your shit together. Not at all. They want like so do we eat? That's why they love Shana Madure. Yes. When her life is tragic, wish it was this past year. She's when she was, you know, going through weight struggles. She told me herself, I've never been more popular. Yeah, and I'm like, they do, they like it. And I love that because that's when we need to be supported.

So Dorit is having her moment of like, I'm fed up. We don't know what it was like behind closed doors with she and PK, but people are, she's like the star. And before it was just kind of like, she shows up in Chanel and like I watched her just because I loved, she was just so fun to look at, right? Right, but when I think about the clothes, since we're talking about the clothes.

So she went out with bows for a drink on the yesterday show and she's wearing a Louis Vuitton top. Yeah, I loved it. And it's always, except for that one time when she said it was vintage, when she went to Kyle's cowboy party, this is Louis Vuitton vintage. This is from my collection.

And I mean, it's not counterfeit, it's not old. She's not getting it for free. She's paying for it all. And you, okay, I gotta say, if Peter was spending that kind of money on luxury items for himself, and we were a little bit financially struggling, and it was going on for the last five years of our marriage with the glam and the whole

thing and not thinking about, well, maybe I could do my own fake pony. Maybe I could, you know, not wear another $7,500 outfit to go work out in. I think that can add to their problems. Well, I mean, she's, she's decked to the nines. Even if she resells it, it's still not gonna get 50%. Yeah. The time alone in doing that isn't worth it. The communicating with some random person

is not fucking worth it. This is going to Goodwill. Drop off, see you later. But that bodysuit, there's an account that posts all of the housewives. I know, I don't know why it doesn't get more love. There's like one comment. And I apologize that we don't have her name at the top of her head, but it is cool.

Because sometimes you see something, you're like, oh, I love that. And sometimes it will be Zara. And then other times it's $7,200 for a bikini. Like the boat bag, $36,000. That onesie that she was wearing, the Louis, I know what you're talking about, the purple one. I think it was like over three grand. I've never had one piece of clothing in that price range.

I've had maybe a bag or a piece of jewelry, but that's just me and that's fine. I spend my money differently than others, but I'm like, that is exorbitant. Well, it's every outfit. And your house was in pre-foreclosure. I don't know where it is now. I don't know what's going on with that. But we see in the preview that she's like, he is filing because, and then Eric is like, before the 10 years.

Wow, smart motherfucker. I remember, I think Tom Cruise did that to Nicole Kidman. Well, you know. He hit it right at like nine and a half years. Well, then you only owe Alamoni for half the time you were married. So yeah, that makes. Right, and if you go past the 10 years,

you owe Alamoni till the day she marries someone else or dies. Yeah, exactly. And so a lot of people then are like, well, I'm never gonna take another spouse. I'll have, you could have a boyfriend live with you for the next 30 years if you're in that situation to someone really rich. Because I don't know that common law marriage exists in California. I think, and I don't know everything, but I think it did before same sex was approved.

Okay. And then somehow same sex kind of like crossed that out. Where the- Saved us all? Like the palimony doesn't really exist anymore. Because- What does that mean? Like if you just lived with someone

and then you get alimony from- Yes, so like if you were with someone for 20 years, and especially if you were gay, it was a good thing to have because you couldn't get married. So you could be like, oh my God, you know, I was with this guy and I took care of the home and the dogs and da da da.

I should be entitled to something. And then same sex marriage was passed and they said. And then I feel like that, and I'm not 100% sure, but I think that went away. Because they were like, get married, everyone can get married, so we're just gonna go by the marriage laws and not try to decipher what the relationship is anymore.

And I'm just assuming that because I don't hear about it anymore. Because every time I look it up, it does not exist here. Like it's not even acknowledged, which I do love that part because as someone who doesn't wanna get like married like that, I wanna know that I could shack up with someone and not have to deal with the same type of issue.

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Yeah. And what did you think of that scene where Dorit says, we were meeting with his sober coach or Al-Anon. What did you call it? Sponsor. Sponsor, yeah. We're meeting with a sponsor because PK is sober. And the sponsor is the one who suggested,

I think you guys should separate. And she's like, I was blown away and I didn't know if that if PK had told him that or if this guy was just coming up with it on his own. And I thought that was very strange. I know there's no like real rules, you know, it's not like as you're a sponsor, you write, but I would think there's like something to adhere to if you choose to be a sponsor in the AA program, right? Well, there I remember when I first got into AA and I started talking about it, my then sponsor was like, hey, like, the rules are you don't do X, Y, and Z, like you don't talk about it. And I said, well, that's great for all of you. I won't mention that you guys are in it,

but like, I'm in the public eye. The program is single-handedly keeping me sober. There's people like me. So I'm gonna talk about a program that exists for other people to know about. I won't mention your names. And you know, she put her guard down and was like, that makes total sense.

I really think it depends on who you are, how you practice your program. Dorit, I wonder if, cause when she first brought up, like my husband's an alcoholic, I immediately went, er, like not your story to tell. You should not be outing him as that.

And I felt like that's where Kyle was team PK2. She was like, he doesn't have a place like she does because he's just the husband who, even if he does a scene with Mauricio, I don't even know if he's getting paid because the way it works is the wife gets paid and everybody else signs off on it. So I'm like, he doesn't, she was like,

he doesn't really have the same platform, the same place that Dorit has. She's the one on the show. She's the one that can say the story first. Right. And so her saying, he was a raging alcoholic, and I covered up for him for 10 years. Because he did not mention any sort of drinking problem

when he sat down with Mo. So I was a little, I was confused by that. Yeah. But who's to say if she had a conversation with him and said, can I talk about this on camera? That he didn't say, sure, you can talk about your perspective, this is your show. We don't know, he could have said that.

And I wanna give her the benefit of the doubt because I do like her. She and I had a really great time in New York and we had a really fun conversation. Yeah, she's fun and I like her too. She's great. And again, I like all of these women. There's not one that I'm like, fuck this bitch,

I don't wanna see her on my screen. I wanna say that he told her, whatever you wanna talk about, he knows what he signed up for, right? He appears on camera too. But you said that kind of made you go, mm, like you didn't like that she was saying that. Well, I just know the way that I practiced my program,

I would not, I'm out talking about my sobriety, but no one else can have one fucking word about my sobriety and my story. Like that's not your story to share. So it was, I was taken aback when she said, I'm married to an alcoholic. It's like, well, if he's in a program, that's anonymous. And unless he's out here talking about it,

he needs to be present when you're talking about his alcoholism, quote unquote. I think she is coming from a place that I feel like she has like, was, you know, like covering, like she said, I was coming up for him. I was doing all this stuff. I got on the show because he wanted to do it. And I, and he was a dick and everything, but I was willing to stay till the end. Like I had friends where they're not in a happy marriage, really, but they were like, I'll stay till, you know, till

you die, till we die. And then they are surprised when all of a sudden someone comes in and hands them the notice of I'm filed. And they're absolutely shocked. And they're like, I knew it wasn't gonna marriage, but I wasn't ready to leave. Like I was gonna just put up with it. I thought we were just gonna be one of those miserable couples till we die.

So I think- Well, people get comfortable. People get addicted to the comfortability. So I think she is coming, this is a while ago, this is like nine months ago, whenever this was filmed. And I think she was really coming off a place of being really quite shocked. And we see it in real time,

which is very compelling to watch, where we talk every day, we're best friends to, oh my God, now like, clearly, I mean, now I have no doubt that they will eventually divorce. Like there's no way they're gonna make it. No, and I think that once she, once there's that final stamp that you're on your own and go do your thing,

I think what kind of, and I shared this with her, I was like, what kind of revived me is when like, I went out and met someone and it was like, it was supposed to just be a one night stand and it like truly revived me. Like I felt like that was when I could really move on and know like, okay, I'm still, like the only way to get over someone

is to get under something someone knew. Yes, and you start feeling that like, oh, I like, I feel, and you start feeling that like, oh, I feel sexy and why do I feel like I wanna, you fall into a pattern of not wanting to fuck this person anymore. She needs to get laid. She needs to be romanced and get laid.

And I think sometimes when you're in mommy mode and you have been in kind of a sexless marriage, which they both kind of admit that that was it for a while. I think that you can get to a place where you don't really miss it. I think there are women that they don't really know what they're missing. It's like when you give up whatever,

something, your favorite thing to eat, and then you're like, oh my God, I haven't had McDonald's in like five years. And then you're on a road trip and you're like, this fucking sandwich. It's like, oh my God, like you're like, toes are curling. And so it's like, I think that can kind of happen. No, I think it will happen.

With women when you're so in mommy mode and you're so busy and you're in career mode and you're like, I'm not looking for it, I'm not out flirting, I'm not, you know, but I would love to see her date someone that kind of sweeps her off her feet. I think we're going to see that. Yeah.

What do you think about, now some people feel that Garcelle and Sutton, you know, are not really giving that much to the show. But I feel like- But do they ever? No. I mean, what are they supposed to do? Like they don't have men so that you can't have that storyline. Yeah.

I mean, I like them as an addition. Yeah, and how do you feel about the Jennifer Tilly? How do you not love her? There's not one thing that she could say or do that would make me not love her. But also there's... Thanking Sam in every confessional for all the cool shit she gets to buy. I'm like, you're a real boy. Her ex husband who passed. I think she's really fun and I think she's like a fun little perk that kind of takes that Cathy Hilton role. I don't think they're ever going to give her, what do they hold, a diamond? She's got nothing to lose. She doesn't have a child that can hate her for being on TV.

She doesn't have an ex-husband who can hate her for being on TV. She has a boyfriend that we don't see. Who is a poker player. But however, we're not really seeing much of her life except for her possessions. No, but I think that that's what's fun about her. a poker player. But however, we're not really seeing much of her life except for her possessions. No, but I think that that's what's fun about her. She often shows us her weird little fucking boat bag from Louis Vuitton that cost like as much as someone's car or a boat or a boat or an actual boat. Like I just think she adds that lightheartedness. Yeah. And it's not like she

needs the paycheck. No, that's why I think they're not going to fuck with her and kind of like ruin her life with a weird storyline. But so I think she'll come back next year. But like if it just kind of continues on this path, she might be like, I'm good after. I don't know. I love both. Something needs to happen. Yeah.

I love both. She's also a voice of reason too. She's a voice of reason, but I can tell. Like she's calm. Yeah. She's a voice of reason, but I can tell, like, she's calm. But one wrong move, she will fucking demolish you. Right? Like those are the ones, the ones that are very calm.

I'm like, oh, see, I'm like a barker, not much of a biter. Like you don't really need to worry about me. I'm like all, she's like, Gua-La's hit 10 again. One thing I don't believe, I just don't believe that she wants to have another baby. I think that is kind of a little bit of a storyline. Who would want to have, I know people do,

for your boyfriend, but she's 47 or 48. No, exhausting. And her daughter is like already 16. She's like 16. I don't know, but you know what I'm telling you, that's always a storyline. I'm 34. Remember when Luanne said she wanted to have another baby

with the French guy? Yeah, and then Ramona takes a pregnancy test on the- And then Ramona was like, Oh my God, my period is like- Menopause. She's like, I have my period. And then Kim- I have my period right now.

And then Kim Rufftuch was like, I wanna have another baby. And Kyle's like, what? Remember when Kyle Rufftuch was dating the guy that she met on Mailbox? No, she didn't say, I want to have another baby. She goes, I'm going to have a baby. And she's like, are you sure it's not something else? It's at Sir.

And she's kind of like taking the trash out of the fucking limo. No, the limo was another episode. First, it's the same season though. It's the same season. It's like lipstick. Remember she was dating Kim Richards? She was dating that really unattractive guy that Brandy Glanville called, that he looked like a dog. Mastiff or something. Yeah, yeah.

I'm always like, where is that guy? Like, where is that guy? Where is that guy? Where is that guy? Where is that guy from New Jersey that was Daniel Stobbs? Oh! Guy that was like basically a gangster with long hair, Danny? Like, where is Danny?

How they roll up into that very, like, it was such a cute event for the woman, for the woman whose child had like cancer or something. Right? You're like, what are you guys talking about? When you know, you know. It's like the vintage is so good. Everyone knows that the brownstone, you guys.

You know. Do you, now here's the question because I've talked about this so much. I've taken a strong, unique stand recently. On? I don't think Kyle's a lesbian, and I don't know that she and Morgan were ever anything but friends, and that's my shocking statement.

No, she seemed too conflicted. What do you think? I think maybe they had moments of, I don't think that they had moments of like, I don't think that they ever had sex or, you know, I don't think that she ate her box or anything like that. I think there were moments of maybe like laying in bed together in some cuddles and it feeling like, okay, this feels like more than a friend.

And I'm a little confused. Could I see myself with this person? No, she seemed too conflicted at the reunion about that. Like she was battling, I don't know what I want. And I've eaten a few cookie in my day and it was kind of confusing. You're like, all right, well, and I think that's, you know, she gave up drinking.

Right. She's desperate for clarity. Right. I said she didn't have a midlife crisis, she had a midlife awakening. Yeah. It was an awakening of being sober, working out, stepping away from Moe. But it now feels like there's some regret of making it so easy for Moe and her to live separately. Like she's made his life is so easy. He's in a concierge run penthouse

that was staged beautifully. His daughter can see, he works with three of the daughters. And the other daughter who got a Porsche that she can come over anytime she wants. So, The last episode, she slept at her dad's. Right, so his relationship with his kids are not suffering at all because they waited so long.

You want the house in Aspen this week? Great, I'll take it next week. I'll go to La Quinta instead with my Dancing with the Stars partner or whatever. And she has to be like, oh, okay. Did you get the sheets I sent you? That's all right, I already got sheets. What?

Like, I just kind of like, I feel like that is honestly the juiciest part for someone like me that's been married for a really long time who's now basically an empty nester. And yeah, you might be over your husband sometimes, but then you're like, but, you know, I don't know. I don't think he, she's not giving him, he's definitely having his cake and eating it too. He's not missing anything. They're not splitting up the money.

He doesn't care that he's not at the Encino house with the four dogs. No. He doesn't miss the dogs. No. That's really sad. Men are just very different than women. They are.

And I don't think we're supposed to be together. I mean, yeah, I do think gay men are the happiest couples. They are. Have you gone to Palm Springs? I mean, they are the happiest. A dreamland. They are the happiest. And also because many of them, you know, have maybe not a total monogamous relationship for 40 years, but they can stay together for 40 years because they're men. Yeah. And they see things in a different way than we do.

When you talk to, it's like we miss the little things. Like we were gonna grow old together and like watch our grandkids come through these doors where like a dude doesn't think about that. He's like, I fucked a 22 year old last night. My life is fucking awesome. You know, we don't think that way. We are, we like memories.

And we like companions. Yes, and we hold onto those things. Men are more in the moment of, oh my gosh, we got the WAP, we're popping champagne. It's very, we're not supposed to be together. Well, let me get in, let me get into this breakup that I'm a little bit obsessed with

since we're talking about this. Oh, what is this? This is Matt James and Rachel Kirkconnell. Let me get into this breakup that I'm a little bit obsessed with since we're talking about this. Oh, what is this? Kirk Connell. This is Matt James and Rachel Kirk Connell. Okay. Okay. Twenty-eight years old, she's a baby.

They were going to get married? Okay, so let me tell you the whole story because I am obsessed. Okay, tell me. I watched this whole season and he was the first black bachelor and his mom was white, his dad was black, but they broke up when they were young and his mom was very attractive and he was a delight. Okay. And so they've been together four years, but they've broken up. But I want to tell you what's interesting about a couple things. So she goes on Call Her Daddy and I listened. And honestly, it's heartbreaking because people should realize

this is what happened with this girl. This guy did not stick up for her a few times and she should have believed it the first time. And this is the controversial part that I'm the only one talking about it. And even I believe she and Call Her Daddy, Alex, danced around a little bit. And the controversy is they were on the show

post George Floyd, Black Lives Matter, but really close to it. Like the world was at a racist racial talking all the time. Right? And while the show is going on and she- So this is in 2020? Yes. This, yes, okay. And while, or is going on and she's in 2020. Yes. Yes. Okay. And while or 21 or whatever, while it's going on, she is a front runner. And somebody goes deep dive and sees that when she was a freshman in college, she went to a fraternity party where the theme was antebellum. Whatever

the like wearing the Civil War type like Lady antebellum type, whatever, like wearing the Civil War type outfits. Like lady antebellum type? Yes, like wearing the Civil War outfits. And actually the fraternity had nationally said stop doing that theme and these people did it. Where did she go to school? I'm not sure, but she was just there in a photo. It's a strange theme to have.

Yes, it is. It's awful. But she was 18 and she was invited and she went with her sorority sisters and she's in a photo. It's a strange thing to have. Yes, it is. It's awful, but she was 18 and she was invited and she went with her sorority sisters and she's in a photo, okay? Okay, all right. So, cut to, you know, and I've told this story before, but I just think it's interesting.

So, Chris Harrison, the host of it for 20 years, he's doing an interview promoting something else. And the host asks him about these photos of Rachel. Now he, I believe, you know, he has the knowledge that she's the front runner, but I think he's protecting her. But in it, he's like, this is crazy. She's, you know, he also has young college kids at that age.

And he's like, this is a college kid that went to a party and you know, like- Didn't understand like the gravity of what she was doing. Yes. It was more like, this is just a platform for me to go get and you know like. Didn't understand like the gravity of what she was doing. Yes. It was more like this is just a platform for me to go get wasted with my friends. He was just, he was saying, let's give some of these kids some grace

when they make a decision where they, you know. Okay. We didn't know what it is. She, okay, it was bad, but it wasn't like, oh my God, did you know that she and her family were, you know, part of the Klu Klux Klan? It wasn't that, okay. But at the time it was like,

oh my God, it was the height of cancel, right? Culture. So she doesn't really know this is going on. This is what I'm gathering from what I'm listening in. I don't have the timeline. And she says in the interview, we are getting along, we're having our alone time off camera

in the fantasy suites and everything. That's where they have sex, right? Yes, and so then she says, but then all of a sudden they're like you know we don't have an engagement. We don't like we do it no he doesn't ask anyone to get married and we don't have an engagement and it felt like the producers were sort of annoyed that we didn't have our engagement. Then between that and then after the rose all this stuff explodes where she is like public enemy number one, but she's very careful. She doesn't really share this of how she's feeling.

But then she goes back on the show. They have a different host because they fired Chris Harrison for that, for his comments in defending her. Really? Yes. Where have I been? Because nobody talks about this because it's too sensitive,

but I don't fucking care. It's 2025 and I'm fascinated by the this because it's too sensitive, but I don't fucking care. It's 2025. And I'm fascinated by the story because it's like a moment in history that needs to be discussed because basically they bullied him to not be with her. The public, everybody was like, don't be with Rachel because she went to that party. Okay. Okay. So she has to come out there and they have a new host who is a black guy and he was good

at the job. And you know, Matt James won't barely look at her and he's like, could you give her a hug and he's like, no. And she is shunned. I have to work on myself. I have to, you know, learn. So she leaves. And then, but he's still talking to her every day. He's there secretly seeing

each other. So on camera, he shuns her. Yes. For the photos. Yes. And because of all the public of like, how could you be a black man with this woman? Okay. So I remember at the time, I was like, this is, this is our version of the 1960s. This is crazy that the public won't let this couple be together. When he wants to be with her. Yes, he wants to be with her, but he's so wrapped up in everybody in his ear and talking about it and his career that he's now having in TV. He's like, I can't fuck with you. So they are in all purposes of everybody in the world, they are broken up. I find out when I do my guest spot on The Bachelor where it was this cute girl, Katie,

she was a bachelorette. So I'm there and I get the scoop from people and the scoop is they're secretly seeing each other. Oh, we got the juicy scoop. And I go, what? That is the saddest thing I've ever heard. Why are people not seeing that this is sad, that the social media

and everybody is making him be like, you can't be with this girl because you're black and she's white. Literally that's what it was. So she secretly is talking to him and see him. Now she reveals that also at that time, someone sends something to Reality Steve, that he has reached out to this girl on somebody's talking. Okay, and

She's like the girls like I have been talking to or seeing that I've been talking But I've also been hearing rumors that he's actually seeing Rachel secretly So Rachel finds this out and she's like, oh my god, like I'm done with you. He lures her back again and Then he's like, okay now let's date. He lures her back again. And then he's like, okay, now let's date. Okay? So now they date for three years. Three years and I'm following them. And all they do is go and travel and are food influencers.

But it's really his account. It's all him making this perfectly cute face with her perfect body eat all this food. And he'd be like, okay, try this mac and cheese. And I was like, how's this girl staying thin? And they're traveling all over the world. And he's like, oh yeah, you put that hot honey on it. And they're like eating all this food and they're traveling all around. And I'm like, wow, this is so cool.

They're like traveling the world and they're getting all these sponsorships and they're like foodies and bloggers and bloggers and TikTokers and all of this stuff. So when I was listening to it yesterday or this morning, she goes, yeah, and then, you know, one time, our final fight was that we were supposed to go to this restaurant in Tokyo or something and I, and it was closed and then the place I picked really wasn't good and so therefore really wasn't good, and so therefore he wasn't gonna be able to make a video out of it,

and I put so much pressure on myself because I failed him, because every meal was for content. Oh my, what a nightmare. And that's what they did for three years, was travel, and so my question to Rachel is, were you getting half of this money? Like, how were you guys splitting up? Because every time it was just him eating something, I didn't

watch it through. I need to see her cute face with her perfect brows eating. I was like a weird little freak, like watching her want to eat. Like, I was getting off on it. So I'm like, I think what happened is I think, I think it's so fascinating for so many reasons why this relationship didn't work. It started out in this weird social climate. And the reality show. The foundation was cracked from the jump. Then you add that you're influencers

around traveling and food. And he's talking about marriage and kids, but he's never asking you to marry him and you're on year two and year three. And she's so, it's so sad because she's like so insecure and kids, but he's never asking you to marry him and you're on year two and year three. It's so sad because she's so insecure and I think he's such a, he totally mind fucked her. And I also just think he might have, and this is harsh, I think he kind of lost respect for her. Because I mean, he was like, I've lied to you a bunch of times. I've dragged you around the world a bunch of times. I've shoved all this food in your face. I don't know how she's staying thin.

And like you still are trying to please me and you're still hanging on. And I just, I'm like. Oh, that like breaks my heart. I know, I don't know if that's true and that's sad, but I'm just like, I don't know. But I think like it's a good lesson for girls to learn cause she's so cute.

It is for- People wanna see her with Craig from Southern Charm. Oh, that would be very cute. How's that going? Are people like team one or the other? Are people letting them be kind of pretty amicable? I think nobody's team one or the other. I think he handled it so well and she was sad enough.

Both of them were sad enough about it that I think people were, and both of them were likable enough that it just didn't, it just didn't pan out. No one needed to pick a side. Yeah, there was no nobody, but in this one, this is my prediction for Matt James. He stops being a food vlogger and gets his real estate license.

Oh, and then he's on Selling Sunset? And then he's just whatever, a realtor. Like some hot women will ask him to show him a place. It's very hard to be a female right now, dating and figuring out what you want in a dude. Because if you're a woman who cooks and cleans and does the whole bit of housewife, the dude doesn't have a lot of respect for you.

But if you have your own shit going on, then he feels like he's not masculine and wearing the pants. It's like, I don't know what lane to be in. So when you know what you want, let the rest of us know. Because it is fucking hard out there. And I will have to leave my four walls to me to do, like I understand, but I just, I watch my friends leave their four walls pretty often

and they're not having any luck. And to be honest, it's like, so I'm gonna waste my time going out. And when you're telling me what's out there, I know. Or I could stay home, watch some housewives, eat some good food, put some Zip Patch little things on my face, hang out with my kids.

Like that to me sounds more fulfilling than going out there to see what clowns exist in the circus. Do you agree? It is really, it is really, no, but it is really hard. And it is, I definitely think it's harder for your aged girl. Well it is. And I could find someone. But a lot of us didn't, you know, like our generation,

it's just a different generation, a different way of looking at things. And yeah, it's tough for all those reasons, you know? And then it's like, there's this whole like flexing of like, I don't have to work, look what my man got me. And we see it all on social media. I mean, a lot of it is just the fuck up of seeing everybody's life. Like you can see every type of woman's inside of their home life, whether they are struggling, whether they are showing unpackaging because they are a proud sugar baby.

Yeah. And they, I got your daddy and like your man wants to be with me, that kind of shit. Or they're that girl that is like, sorry, I'm going to have to postpone me screwing a thousand men. That Lily girl, like, and she's like this cute English girl and she's like, I wanted to break the records, but US Customs is being a bitch, you know, like with letting the thousand, I couldn't even read the article. I was like, this is, so I'm like, you're seeing all of it and it is really, really hard.

And I agree that it's very hard. Yeah. But looking back, and I think that this has a tremendous impact on why I am the way I am now is let's take out that my ex turned out to like not have money, right? When I was with him, we lived a pretty lavish life. We were flying private every other day.

It was no big deal to walk into a designer store and get decked head to toe, right? And I was in the darkest place of my whole life. During that time? During that time. Why? I was just unfulfilled. I was not, like, I think I was forcing myself to, like...

Say how great this is? Yeah, and it just, I'm like, this looks fun on, so I saw what I was posting. It looked fabulous, but it was dark. So now that I have a 30,000 foot view and I've gained my independence, I don't care to go in. And I've walked through Louie and Gucci a million and one times. And I'm like, I don't want anything. It doesn't give you kind of an ick factor. It gives me an ick factor.

You do have a cute Gucci purse here, though. Well, this was my grandmother's. I have a classic one for my mom, too. Yeah, this is like very vintage. I love it. You know, you hear about all these people who are being robbed blind. Where you're like, I don't even want this stuff. Because then people just want to break in and steal it.

Or worse, be at gunpoint. Or be at gunpoint. Like Dorit. Yes. Like, you know, leaving a restaurant and walking in your car. Yes. So there is something about when I see social media

or when I'm with girls who think I'll, I'm the wrong audience member to talk about any of the big expensive things that you have. Because I've been there, it brought me nothing. Not even a little bit of happiness. Not those Gucci slides? Which by the way, I did leave when I avoided mission. I left those, I left the Mrs. Emmett hanger

that my dress was supposed to be on. So good. I was like, fuck these slides. Yeah, I definitely think there's like an ick factor when you see all of that and the people that cherish it and also all the counterfeit, like how easy it is to get counterfeit of it. And then you see these breaking windows for it

and people stealing, but also risking their life because they're stealing, like their life screwed if we ever catch one of those people. Like, you know, it's like all of it. Like it's just kind of like, yeah, it's a turnoff. It doesn't. Yeah, I'm just like unfazed by all of it. Yeah, which is why I'm also like,

Doreen, why don't you just move away from that? Like, I'd like to see a different, like what she, you know, she has a great fashion sense. What she should do is get back into fashion and have it made in America and have it quality. She should have her own fashion line. Yeah, and have it chic and cool, but not at a $3,000 price range.

But at like, you know, 50 to 150 is, you know, you can get a piece for. Yeah, and that's, I think, a quality item. Yeah. Like, you're right in the middle. It's not, you know, 150, completely doable. Right. But to show up in $4,000 tops every single episode, it's a lot.

And I have appreciation, I shouldn't say that I don't have appreciation for the designer bags and all of those things, because I'd be heartbroken if someone did come in and take all of them, but it's just not something that I need to go out, and if I see it on Instagram, I'm not like, ugh. You don't get the high off of it. no I'm the opening and the boxing and I think all of that I think in some ways that's made people desire it and in some ways

that's made people be turned off by it yeah and be like oh it's so common now mm-hmm you know and the dupes are so the not even dupes the fakes are so good down to the box and the bag. No, but even that runs, like I talked about this Gucci North Face puffer jacket. Yeah. And it was fake and I had, I was not going to buy it. $800, granted the other, the real one probably ran

at $8,000, but like $800 for a fake Gucci, I'm good. Yeah. I'll go to Zara or I'll go to like Arecia But like $800 for a fake Gucci, I'm good. I'll go to Zara or I'll go to like Arecia and spend $800 on a bunch of shit. Not one fake, like I'm not that desperate to make someone think that I can afford this jacket. But I also get it if like, you know, brings you joy, brings you joy.

But this girl is adorable. She's a good girl. How do we get off on that tangent? Because we're just talking about life in general. And like she kept saying like, I would say I'm sorry for things that I really didn't even know what I was sorry for. And like all that kind of stuff.

And I just, and so then anyway, she was totally blindsided. Like he announced they were broken up without, like they broke up. And then the next day he posted, we're broken up. And that was the other thing. They were obviously sleeping together. They were traveling together.

They were going to, on all these trips together, but they never lived together. They never lived together? Because he said- They live in the same state? No, but like he had a place in an apartment, he had an apartment in New York and an apartment in Miami. She had a place in Georgia.

And so they oftentimes were together, but they never officially lived together. And he would be like, well, because I'm so religious, I don't want to live with anybody until I'm married. And we'll keep these places because we're going to be that couple that travels. I just don't think religious men live in Miami and have apartments. Sorry, don't think religious men live in Miami and have apartments.

Sorry, don't buy it. I think they pretend. I think, I think anyone. I know that Miami was like the real thing. That's the moment. And New York, like come on. New York, I could let slide. You like to have fun and it's like,

you're not trying to hide anything. You tell me you have a place in Miami, you're a dirty fucking dog. And the sad part is you're like the Lord Jesus Christ compared to most of the people who live in Miami, you're a dirty fucking dog. And the sad part is, you're like the Lord Jesus Christ compared to most of the people who live in Miami. I mean, I'm going to have people from Miami come for me. But I have women from Miami who tell me, you know, with my ex, they're like, oh yeah, that should have been your first clue.

Like, I'm from there and I know. Right. So, anyway, I wish her the best. I say yes. When she's kind of like the Potomac guy, which doesn't he? I Stacey's guy doesn't he say they can't sleep together or live together because religious to and everyone's just go to it. Let's just go to that right now. And that's like the new thing. Okay. A real life, real house. I was Potomac. I know I haven't covered it that much, but you guys don't need to really be up on it for this discussion. No.

So there's this new girl in it and she's very pretty, her name's Stacey, and she is dating this guy who's pushing 50 who won't even tell- He does not look 50 though, he looks good. No, he looks good, but I can tell he's like that old. And he won't even, I don't even know that they've dry humped. I don't even think they've French kissed. He, they've been dating a long time and he's like, I will sleep with you eventually,

but I just won't do it right now because I'm so religious. And I'm like, I think, I don't know if she's the smartest person in the world and she kind of came up with this so that she could be on the show because it's such a weird storyline. I would hire her too if she's the smartest person in the world and she kind of came up with this so that she could be on the show because it's such a weird storyline. I would hire her too if she's like, this is my boyfriend who seems a little gay

and says he's religious and he's also on like QVC with me. And won't- They met on QVC. Yeah, and won't touch me. I would hire her too. Or is she really thinking that this is gonna go somewhere and this is the love of her life? Because she's kind of dumb about her divorce too.

She was married. That was wild. Yeah, married like 16 years to some like guy he's like German or Swedish or something. And she's like, no, we're just gonna, I don't need to have a lawyer. He'll always take care of me. And then like, he says that now,

but once he gets a new girlfriend, you think that girlfriend who then is married to him or has his baby is gonna be like, did you make sure that your ex-wife got her payment? Oh, your ex-wife wrote me and said that her Range Rover is up for an upgrade. I wanna make sure you take care of your ex-wife because you promised that you would 10 years ago

before we got together. No, like you take care of your ex-wife because you promised that you would 10 years ago before we got together. No, like you have to have your- No, she said she waived child support but she won't waive the alimony. And the lawyer said, why are you willing to waive the child support but not the alimony? Because I wanna make sure it's in writing

that he takes care of me. But you don't want it in writing that he'll take care of your child? Men get weird. Oh, and they go, because then either they or the new girl is like, why is, like let's just say where we live, whatever, like why is the daughter, why can't your daughter go to Cal Bassus?

Like that's such a great public school. Why does she have to go to Oaks Christian for 22,000 a year or whatever it is? Like why, why? And then, yeah, well I checked and it is one of the best schools and then you know, and you're like, but you know, and you're like, but you said, but you're denying your daughter this. My daughter doesn't even call me. Like that's the other thing.

Now the teenager daughter doesn't wanna hang out with the dad and hence you get, you know, Alec Baldwin calling his daughter a little pig on the answering machine 30 years ago. You know, like it just happens. That was wild. It happens. No, it does happen.

So you gotta have your shit in writing with real lawyers, everybody. Well, I think so too. Yeah. He'll always take care of Arabella because he does it right now. Well, I know him, but you don't know him because if you did. Also his business could fail.

He could come on hard times. And if he doesn't have that, he at least has to pay you a certain amount or a certain percentage that you could be screwed that way too. No, I think she's seeing the best in people, which I appreciate. But for someone her age, she's stunning.

You would think she's been a little bit more wounded. She'd have more life experiences under her belt to be like, this is kind of weird. Because the guy who's like, I don't want to sleep with you because I'm super religious, by the way, such a turnoff. You're probably super fucking bad in bed and it's not gonna be work. He and Matt James should go do a show together

and fall in love, make them eat the food. We should put them in Matt James' penthouse in Miami because I'm just so confused. Like you're just out there with a bunch of like blow and tons of BBLs and you're like, nope, I'm a Christian. Yeah. What do you think about Ashley? Did you see that Ashley was a drag king?

I'm obsessed with her by the way. She is so pretty. So cute. Everything about her. I love that she like ripped her fucking top off with Casey's uncle's love there. So for you guys, this was a moment in Housewives history. This show is not your typical show.

So Ashley, who is divorced from an old ugly Australian, who I think was married to somebody when she started, when she met him, I think she worked at one of his restaurants. Okay, that makes sense. And I'm just saying I think, but someone told me. And then, and then she has these two little boys and she is bisexual and always brought in like thirds and whatever. And then he got caught helping a lady that wanted to take a nap in his hotel room. She was very tired.

And she took a photo of him in his underwear. And finally she came to, and also there was some guy in London that said he also had to take a nap in his hotel room. Lots of napping. So anyway, they get divorced. And now she's out bisexual and she does a drag king show. So she dresses like a guy and does this whole big dance

because she is a good dancer. And yeah, she rips off her shirt. She gives Karen a lap dance. She rips off her shirt with her mom and her uncle there with just her pasties. And I mean, yeah, it was something we hadn't seen before. We've seen a lot of drag drag queen shows but we've never seen a housewife be a drag king.

So I want to say congrats for that. She looks hot. The Josh is the most unlikely pairing her boyfriend. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with it. Yeah, but he seems cute and nice. No, he's so cute, so nice, and I love the way that, I'm sure he just looks at her mesmerized.

Like how did I get this piece of ass? Like she is amazing, yeah. Cause you know she's good in bed. Oh, yeah. Sober or Yeah. Cause you know she's good in bed. Oh yeah. Sober or lit. She says she's, what did she say? She said I'm a top as a lesbian or in a bottom as a hetero.

Wait, top as a lesbian? Yeah, like she's, I guess like she's, I don't know. I guess she does, where is the strap on or I don't know. I don't know, but I can tell she's fun. She's sexy. And then we have Karen Huger, who did get a DUI when she crashed into this tree. That was wild, that body cam footage.

So the body cam footage comes out. Did she say she was Jefferson's concubine or something? She said Thomas, she was Thomas Jefferson's concubine. She was really, she was so drunk that when I see something like that, I think as someone who has enjoyed cocktails my life, when you are so wasted, sometimes it's almost like you're in a dream state

and you're like, don't even know what you're saying. Like, and that I think that she was that drunk. Well, obviously. Like, we are drunk and then like, Ray is like, so anyway, obviously. Because what the fuck are you talking about? And then like, Rae is like, shows up. So anyway, she gets her turties. The whole season, she's like, I'll be vindicated, and this and that. Yeah, she is saying she'll be vindicated.

And she's like, I'm stressed. I'm not eating. And then it comes out that she's like, actually on ozempic, because she doesn't want to get diabetes. Right. Well, you know what? Also, the days of shaming people of ozempic are also over, OK? Because it used to be, you know what? Also the days of shaming people of Ozempic are also over. Okay?

Because it used to be, you're stealing it from the diabetic people. They're gonna lose a leg. And Ozempic's like, we can make more. We can make more. Now, that is not the case. There's lots of companies that you can get it from and do it if you wanna do it, great.

One of my predictions came true. What is it? That you could lose your hearing, your eyesight? No, this one I'm very proud of because I said this over two years ago. Tell me. I said Lizzo is gonna go on it and lose weight, and she has.

She looks good. She has. She looks very good. And I said, and it'll cause her to lose some popularity. But once people accept that people are getting thinner because they can, and then eventually you're just gonna have to enjoy them because they wrote a good song. And so she'll come back around, but it's like, yeah,

they don't like that she was getting thinner. They also don't like that she was like horrible to her dancers or whatever. That could be it. I think that should outweigh the Ozempi. Yes. And then also Mia had the craziest storyline ever. She pretended that one of her sons that she gave birth while she was married to her husband was maybe not her husband's. You think that was a made up storyline or you think she was?

Not totally sure. No, I think she knew. you think she was? Not totally sure. Yeah. No, I think she knew. I think she knew. I trust you. I think she knew. You're always right in your predictions. That there wasn't a crossover, but since she'd already left her husband,

she knew it was controversial and probably wanted to punish him a little bit. So she told the girls for two years, I don't know if my son is actually my husband's or my current boyfriend that I've been seeing on and off for whatever 15 years and That he says well, no, we got the paternity test and he is my son and they're like So she's another one like a Brynn from Neuroni that I think had a fucked-up childhood Is super is kind of overly sexual because of that and is a pathological liar.

Oh fuck, that's scary. It's very scary. And I know it's like, you wanna pick these fucked up people for reality TV, but one more weird thing and it can just go dark. Well, it did go dark on Roni. I didn't watch one episode until the finale because of all the social media attention

that that finale was getting. But I was just gonna say, like, I think that was so weird because they showed, they talked about it with the kid, like playing frisbee in the back. They talked about it many times and I thought it was so weird, but I think she talked about it

because she knew the result was that he was the dad. The dad, okay. And therefore she was like, who cares? But I thought that was very, very weird. Okay, wait, so let's, I have talked about Roni Sum and I just want to get your opinion of the latest on Brynn. And did you watch last night's reunion? I did. It was very boring.

I fell asleep. But in the beginning, they did ask her again, what do you do for a living, Brynn? What do you do for a living? She said I do what you do. I didn't get that. I think she means the show and- Or I do your job. Influencing. Okay. But I think in the past year or two,

she probably did make enough money on that. But I think she was lying about having this marketing job. I don't think she ever had some- She said she worked for Do Dove and all like marketing campaigns, but it's always been- But she acted like she was like Joan Collins or whatever, favorite, like in like Mommy Daris, like, don't fuck with me fellas!

Like, I was like, where, like she's wearing a hat to work. And I'm like, what are you talking? Like we never saw you at any of these jobs. And I get it. Like, I don't know that she's a hooker light or whatever, and I don't really care. But it just, again, not really being truthful. No, it is very strange.

Because someone said in the comment section of some posts that she did pull up Brynn's resume, and it's pretty impressive. And I'm like, them post it. Where is it? Why isn't it here? Like we're just talking again more talking about it. What do you think should happen with this show?

Because they sent out a post yesterday. What'd they say? From Shed Media. Now again, I see things and I'm like, everything can be AI and generated all this stuff. But it said from Shed Media, like wanna hold an Apple or holding auditions? They need to.

And I've heard. Yes. I have heard that they're shaking it up big time because it's just not working. Do you think they'll do a combo of like keeping two girls, bringing a couple OGs back and maybe two new? I just don't think any of the new can hang with the OGs. Yeah.

It would be weird. I say just bring back all the OGs. It was the most iconic of all the Housewives. There was nothing like it. They were unproducible in the best way possible. It's the only franchise I've watched where I'm like, if I just randomly was mentioning these friends of mine, a producer would step in and say,

La, no one knows who you're talking about. This show or the OG one, they just had to let him roll and figure it out later. Like I guess, Tammy Sue, does anyone know who that is? Well, I guess she banged, like all of these side characters were brought in and it made it so interesting where it really felt like you were a fly on the wall and not watching a Purdue

show because how do you produce so much chaos? You can't. And also, well, the biggest thing is, you know, it was a different time. And these women, our OGs, were not on their phones while filming. And they weren't filming content. They didn't say, take a photo of me so I can post it.

They weren't also, you know, doing stories while they were filming the show. And if I was the producers of these shows, I would have some strict rules about the phones being out while you're filming. I don't know if that was like for you with Vanderpump. I just feel like it's such a, it is part of being real as having your phone out,

but I feel like that is taking a, it is part of being real as having your phone out, but I feel like that is taking away from like living in the moment. No, there's so many times that we would be filming something and I'd get a text from a producer that says, put your phone down. Okay. Well, good. Yeah.

And it is weird because I want to say these are probably the youngest of the Housewives, maybe not Jenna Lyons. So they're in that sweet spot of like the posting any other franchise, they're not making money that way. Most of the Housewives do have a pretty impressive resume or they say, my husband made the money, I truly am a stay at home mom and a housewife. Whereas that's what we loved about Housewives is it wasn't like Vanderpump rules. Even Summer House, those people have legitimate jobs.

Vanderpump Rules is the only show on Bravo's network where it's like these people, you know what they do. They worked at a restaurant and then came into this world and this is what they do. Right, and it was such a fun thing to watch because it was, you know, it was truly what it's like to be an LA struggling actor, starlet musician. You work at a restaurant, you make friends,

you have opportunities. I mean, that is what it was like for all of us. Anybody that, I worked at a restaurant, anybody, and you're trying to get a little, and we saw it from the start. And then, you know, and that's really cool to see. And then the show, you know, evolved with your careers. And I thought, I felt, yeah, at one point we were like,

we get it, no one's really working there anymore. But that's what I like about like the Valley now is cause it's like, you guys are still all friends. You're still, you know, but we're following your real lives and your real thing and nothing is, you know, you're not driving an hour to go, you know, seat someone for goat cheese balls. You know, it's like, you know, I think they got back now they got in the groove of that. And what I mean, let me ask you, what do you think? Do you think anything about the new season?

Which new season of the valley? The new people of the Vanderpump. You don't know anything, right? I don't know anything of the new of the re-boots. You appear on the valley though. You're coming back to the valley. And you went to Britney's party this weekend, her birthday party. And I really had some FOMO about it. Well, she had two things. OK. I was invited to the Saturday party at her house.

Right. But I was at 6 o'clock dinner. OK. And I'm looking. And 6 o'clock dinner, you know that's right up my alley. That's totally up my alley. Yeah. Wait, that's not what my thing said.

OK, so let me tell you. OK, now I don't feel as bad. OK. No. So there was like an intimate dinner, which was beautiful. You had Brittany in the center, and then it was one side of the table, which I was over on that side, and another side, and you could just tell who didn't mess with who, right? So she did a very good job of making it an intimate dinner, but also you didn't cross

paths with someone who you didn't really like. I need to know what they served really quick. They served what are known where I'm from is Mormon potatoes, all grown potatoes, great Brussels sprouts. They served. What's the meat that you eat with a horseradish? Oh, roast beef, roast beef. I don't know if there was a dessert. I'm sure there was after. Was there a salad to start? There was a salad to start that was fantastic. Okay.

They had a bar, which was really cute. And then the eight o'clock party was when people started arriving where it's like, okay, it's time to like get lit, have fun. Oh, okay. So we're ready to sit. I'm there for like an hour and a half. Okay.

And I'm like, it's 708. It's like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, okay, it's time to like get lit, have fun. Oh, okay. We're ready to sit. I'm there for like an hour and a half. Okay. And I'm like, it's 708. People, you know, my Virgo and sobriety have kicked in now. I'm like, y'all, we have to sit down. You can't have people arriving at eight o'clock to all of us having dinner being like,

you weren't good enough to be invited to the dinner. But like maybe curl up on the couch and watch some sex in the city while we finish our to the dinner. But like maybe curl up on the couch and watch some sex in the city while we finish our roast beef dinner. So the moment that I was finished, I started seeing people trickle in and I was like, this is when it's my time to exit. But I heard that the party that you were invited to was fun.

Okay, wait a minute. I am so happy because this has haunted me for three days now. Why? Because I was very flattered to get the invite. I love Britney. I know so many of you guys. I'm close to you and Sheena and people.

So I'm always flattered to be invited to the premieres and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. But I was in La Quinta. And I was kind of like. And I was having FOMO of you. Yeah. And I also had plans with Brandy and Julie. They were gonna come to my little country club.

So fun. And because Peter wasn't there, we were gonna have a girls' night and we were gonna go, and because Julie told me that the planets are lining up. Nobody seemed to know this. The planets, yeah, Sheena went out for one night to see it. Well, we didn't see anything. But the planets, so she goes,

we need to get together for the planets to line up and everything. First, I just thought she meant like spiritually the planets are lining up. You know how people are like, oh, so and so is in the seventh ray of the Jupiter. Like I don't understand that. And I go, oh wait, planets are really lining up. So I think when people talk like that, Heather, they're also lining up in a certain way. I don't think that they're just bullshitting.

When someone says Mercury's in retrograde, I think it actually is. Yeah, Mercury. Yeah, whatever that is. So we made plans, because they have a place in Paw Springs, for them to come over and have a girls' night. And we're going to go to wine tasting at my country club, which is in my little area. I can walk across the graph. And then come back, and we're going

to play Mystery Date, which is a game that my sister and I played when we were little. Which is, we have to play it, it's for eight and above, eight years old and above. Oh, then I can for sure play it. It is so much fun. And Julie Wudd and got a bowling date, which is so appropriate.

And then we watched this movie that I found the day before on Amazon Prime. What's it called? Hollywood High. It was made in 1976. I cannot believe that Amazon Prime bought this movie. It is a straight up porn. I don't think it was SAG-AFTRA.

I want to know where these seven-year-old women are today because I was like, what horrible shit did they have to go through at the Troubadour or Sunset or whatever to get these movies? It is like- It was like a porno? It was like, yeah. It's like they're sitting in class.

It's like the worst acting. I go, it felt like something that I honestly rented like at Blockbuster when I was like a teenager to be like, oh my God, this is like a juicy movie called Hollywood High. And it's like it's four girls and they're all hot and like in class, the girl's like, whoa, like children, I mean, this is like, how is this on Amazon Prime? So that was my night, okay? And I, you know, wrote, I wrote Brittany and I-

That does not seem like an Amazon Prime flick. I know. So then I wrote, you know, wrote Brittany and I'm like, I'm so bummed, but I'm in Likita and I don't want to flake and everything. But then when I saw the beautiful photos and I saw the seat and there's nothing I like more than an all girls plated dinner.

So fun, the best. But mine was for eight. So I was never invited to the plated dinner. So you have just made me feel so much better. Yeah, don't worry about it. Because I was like, oh my God, if I knew it was gonna be, and you looked so beautiful. I'm like, first of all, I wouldn't have dressed that fancy,

but it's okay, because now I realized I would have come at eight. And- It was freezing by the way, because that was the day that there was all the rain. I also knew it was freezing, and I was like, oh my God, this is outside. And there's nothing-

There was one heater, Heather, and because I was seated first, I had the bartender put the heater right behind me. Of course you did. And also, nothing worse than an open-toed high heel on a cold California night. The worst. The worst because you're like.

But I was, but she did have a bunch of blankets. Yes, it looked beautiful. It was fun. It was so beautiful. And I would have had fun if I'd gone and ate and like I would have danced and everything. So yeah, she- She had the most heartfelt, sweet speech. She is so genuine.

And so- It was great. And I'm excited for her year ahead of her. I am too. Now, she's still doing her restaurant. She's still doing that restaurant. That is amazing. That sounds so fun. You know, I'm very proud of her.

Yes, I am too. Just what she does on a regular basis for her life, you know, she doesn't have, Jax is not helpful. He does not contribute in any way, shape or form. I don't care if he hears me say that either, this is a fact. And she wakes up, hustles her ass off,

provides for her son, and I just have a lot of respect for her. Well, she looks beautiful. She does. And she's just... The titties are titting. The titties are titting, the hair is flowing. She let me feel them. I said, girl, we. The titties are titting, the hair is flowing.

She let me feel them. I said, girl, we're gonna have an areola if we don't pull up just a tad. And she gave it a little adjust and I said, we're good. Now, is she seeing anyone? Because last time I was on your show. Was she seeing someone? Your podcast. Oh, Julian.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a guy that she, that I guess she wanted to date with or something, but you, did you date him? What was the story behind that? No, that was, so yes, Julian, the guy that I had talked to for years and then whatever, introduced him to the group

and then he still stuck around. And then Brittany started hooking up with him. Okay. But there's someone else now. I don't know, maybe. Okay. I think's someone else now. I don't know, maybe. Okay. I think she's having fun. I think she's out talking to dudes as she should.

Sounding like she's having a good balance, hopefully. Between work, mommy life, and then some fun, which everybody needs. There is balance. And she deserves that. Yeah. She had a many year of dealing with Jacks, and now she needs to go and enjoy her life and have someone make her feel beautiful because she is.

You know? Well, I can't wait for that show to come out. I will say you made me feel better though. Because I was, I didn't realize that the dinner was at six and then the party was at eight. I thought just it was a dinner for everybody at eight. And I'm like, all right, whatever. Then I realized you're going, but that's to the eight o'clock.

We're having dinner at six. And I was like, fuck. This is like the fifth thing I've told Heather that I'm going to be at. And then I'm like, I'm actually bailing. I told my mom, I was like, I have got to. Because I had friends in town. I said, go entertain them.

You'll watch the kids. I have to stay at the party because I cannot bail on Heather another time. And then you said you're in the desert. I was like, bitch, I'm out of here. The moment dinner is finished. The minute I get my dessert. Did they have a dessert? No. Maybe they did after I didn't stay. It was like, honestly, it kind of inspired me for like my next birthday. It was stunning. I mean, I, I won't do't do an A and a B list,

but I did think it was fun. Cause I was like- Your thing won't say it's Heather bitch. It was just hilarious Heather. No, but I was thinking like, it's kind of fun. Was it mostly, so it was mostly girls. Like people didn't-

Girls and gays. So nobody brought their husband. That's a straight person. No, no, no, no, no, no. I kind of like that. No, it was mostly girls, like people didn't- Girls and gays. So nobody brought their husband that's a straight person. No, no, no, no, no. I kind of like that. No, it was great. Because I mean, I mean, I love having like a couple's dinner too, because I am that person that's married to like an old straight golfer.

But also, I think it makes it real fun. I like to have several celebrations. So it's like you can do your couple's dinner, whatever. But then I like the girl, everyone looking cute, have a sit down, beautiful, like housewives type dinner. Yes. Yeah. As someone who's not in a couple,

I very much appreciate the people who are like, we're gonna do two things. Cause I can roll third wheel with the best of them. I've been doing it for many years. But I love a girls and gays birthday dinner. I'm all for having multiple years. Yeah. But I love a girls and gays birthday dinner. I'm all for having multiple events. Yeah. And milking it out all month.

I feel bad for people who are at the end of a month, like if your birthday was today. Yeah, you're gonna call it a day. You can't go into the next month. So I'm June 14th, which is perfect. Perfect. So it's the whole month of June. Yeah. It's like. It's not because I'm September 2nd where it's like if I do do that it's

like enough already. Yeah like shut up bitch. The 14th is great. Yeah it's good. It's also Flag Day. What the fuck is that? You celebrate the flag. The American flag? Everyone my mom used to be like, everyone put out the flag for your, no, like American flag. And everyone put out a gay flag. Did you just say the gay flag? No. I said an American flag. Yeah, an American flag. Well, we were talking about gay. Lala, we've talked for so long and this has been so-

Oh, 118, yeah. We have. Oh my God, so, so fun. And you have so much going on. I do. Let's hear all the stuff that you have going on. Yeah, well, your mommy have two. Now, Ocean's gonna be four in March, right?

Yep, Ocean will be four in March. And then how old is Sosa now? Sosa's four months. Over four months, she'll be five months. And just doing great. Doing great. So I'm submerged in just like mommy life. You saw my new car.

It's giving me a heart attack. It's full mom mode. No, I'm getting another car. It's too much of a mom mode, it's too big. That will be my mom car, I need to feel like, I can't be constantly covered in spit up, breastfeeding, pumping, disciplining, and then get into my massive mom car.

You know what really screams mom car? What, a minivan? No, when you get in and it's that smell of like that the milk spilled into the rug. You know that milk smell? Yeah. That formula or that milk or like, like a Cheerio that was crushed in the rug.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't need to get in the back of my car quite yet. I'm gonna run it to the cleaners. Okay, so you have your podcast. Yeah, the podcast, Give Them La La. That's every Wednesday and Monday. Okay. Amazon Live, which is like the modern day version of QVC.

I have all the best pics you'll ever have in your life. Yes you do, and I did a little fun thing with you over the holidays. Yes, super cute. So that was really fun. And then I know you have other things you can't, can you, you probably can't talk about the secret stuff. Not yet, but I'm really excited for this year.

I think it's gonna be me coming into my own. I think you're in a real like creative space for yourself. I needed that. Yeah. I was getting a little too comfortable in life and the moment I get too comfortable. The last time that I became uncomfortable was with my situation with my ex

and I was like, oh my God, where are we? And I did really great things. So now we're uncomfortable again and I'm really excited to see what we do. And then you have, you're a big part of the valley, like you're on it. I wouldn't say I'm a big part of it. I pop in, I'm very, very pregnant at that point in time.

We'll see what makes it. It just made sense. Sheesh is a part of it. I know she gets, I think she gets her hands a little bit dirty, which I love. Sheena? Yeah. And she has a book coming out.

She does have a book coming out. My Good Side, which I can relate to because I only have one good side. And- I love it. I'm so, so many people were like- I was so bummed when I did your thing. What do you mean?

When I did your Amazon show. We have the same good side. That's a problem. I know, and they're like, that's Lala's scene. But actually I wasn't sad, I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it. Yeah, you looked great. But it's funny, because Sheena and I can take a photo together, because it matches.

It's like. Yeah, that's how Sheesh and I are. Yeah, yeah. We make great friends. We share the opposite good side. And so yeah, I'm excited for her. She has a book coming out too, so we all have to get those pre-orders in for her too.

Yeah, get them in you guys. I want her to make the New York Times bestseller list. Give them Lala. You have so much going on and I'm so excited to just watch you blossom. Thanks, Grace. This was so fun. Thank you for having me.

And please come back. We could always talk about, we could talk for another five and a half hours. Yeah, because it's easy. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Love you.