Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Lala Kent Tells All Vanderpump Rules, Cheating, and Affairs

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

Vanderpump Rules’ Lala Kent is back on Juicy Scoop to share all the latest developments on Scandavol. We discussed last night’s explosive episode where Lala shared her concerns about Raquel around other women’s men. I go through what two very close friends of Scheana and Raquel share in a podcast. The timeline of the affair becomes much more apparent. Lala gives us an update on why she is fighting for her and Ocean’s life and why it is so important. Then, Gwyneth Paltrow is getting dragged for her “wellness” regimen. Mary Crosby is back filming RHSLC. Hailey Bieber is still copying Selena Gomez. Teresa does not understand cheer competitions on RHONJ. Tiger Woods tricked his girlfriend into getting her out of his house. This is an eye-opening, juicy episode!! Get extra juice on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop/featured Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald/ Follow me on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Follow Lala on Instagram: @lalakent Buy a Send It to Darell sweatshirt: https://shoplalakent.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo, and a McDonald. Juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. I have returned Juicy scoop favorite, Lala Kent. Wow, this is the Juicyest time in reality show history. I have you here. Fresh off the party of the year,

oceans two year old birthday party at Bounsen Ball and it's seen all in Bouns, all in Bouns. I'm so grateful that you came. Because it's not like you have kids, you didn't need to come, but I was really thankful that you did. Well, you make a party, you got that right?

I mean, you had two guys singing, some really great tunes. We were rocking out. All the other Vannervant Pump babies were there. Yep. Cruise Hartford. Summer. Stressed as boo.

Yep. And then, of course, your daughter Ocean was just a very gracious host and had the best time and loved every minute. She's a very happy child. She really is. She's like a magical human. She really, she's really cute and very like, yeah,

I was great. But then last night was the greatest night of my life because it was Vanderpump is on every Wednesday. We're recording this and here we go. We watched the episode and Everything Eddie Cohen said Everything you told me you kept saying it's a comment. I can't tell you anything It's a comment and we watched it and Lala Cleo. What's that later that's the psychic Cleo lady? Oh, what what with the ball with the ball? Yeah, miss Cleo miss Cleo

Yes, yes. Yes. I thought I was a great predictor, but I think you have an incredible judge of character now, even more so, because I think that from what you've been through, it's like your antennas are maybe up. I think you understand women really well.

And in it, you are like, like you want to be a rock-hells friend, but you're like, whoa. Right. I was watching the way that she was moving. And I just felt like this seems to be a red flag. And you're going to see it gets crazier. So what we see last night is you guys go to Vegas for the opening of the Paris Van her pump restaurant, right and Everyone's you guys are all being real girly friendly everybody's getting along and it's Katie you Ruckkel and Christina. Yes, are you on it? I ended up going home because the dog passed away because the dog was had to be Was sick so she's gone within like an hour of getting into the hotel room.

So you guys go down there and that's where you meet Oliver Garsell's son who's working there and like you know, face wise and charming wise, he's kind of your type right now. Totally and everyone kept asking me like, how did you know Oliver before? Like you say you had a crush on him for a long time. But I couldn't on camera say I know him because I watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

That's how I know him. Right. The only way I know him. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a fan. So that's actually how I know that Oliver exists. Is I obviously watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And I've seen him up here. So you're like, he's cute and everything. Now you say you guys invite him to the next spot. Disco pussy or what's the call? Disco pussy. And like so he comes, he comes there and now you find out from him. He says, I am separated. Right. Which is a, is a trigger for me because

I've been told that someone's separated before and it was a lie and I had a baby with that person in my whole life was a lie. So that was a trigger for me, but I didn't feel that it was a red flag in the sense that we're filming a television show. So if you're not really separated,

why would you say that you are? When we have a crew here, like this is gonna air nationwide. Yeah, this is not what stays in Vegas. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in Vegas is on Bravo and going to be in 12,000 countries, or whatever it is.

Correct. And he was telling me, yeah, we're just trying to find the grounding for, you know, the bouncing the kid back and forth. I like, I share one child with my ex, right? Correct. And I was like, oh my gosh, like I'm in the same situation. I feel for you.

I was enjoying the conversation. I didn't feel that I wanted to like do anything fun with him. Right. You know, there was a point in time like he walked in. We start talking. I was like, this is not the person that I'm going to take off. But also I've had the pleasure of, listen, I've been married 22 years, I love him

and a single friend, I like to live vicariously. But you are notorious now, because there's been a few incidents where you're like, oh, it's on, it's popping, it's popping, and it's stuck. And then something happens and you're like, like when we were in New York, and you're like, oh, it's pop in you leave. I'm like

I cannot wait to get the scoop from Lala. She's going to this like hot basketball players house that she's been seeing and Dead and I'm like give me it all girl. I'm in my bed with a cup of coffee. I'm like ready to get details and you're like, um, The Uber got about like half a bell from his house and I'm like, no, turn around and went home. Yeah, but I did hook up with that guy the last time I was in New York. Good for you. So we made up for it. I'd like to hear about that. But, so yes, yeah. So, I'm big talk. Yeah. One thing can make it go from it's on and pop into, no thanks, cookie clothes going to bed. Um, and so Raquel starts telling me that she is interested in him. Yeah. Again, yes, the separated thing triggered me,

but I didn't think it was a red flag. I knew I wasn't gonna hook up with him. She was like, I think he's cute too though. Yeah. That's so cute too. He's so well. I forgot that I did. So I did an impression of Raquel, the first reunion.

And I asked her, Poff. Yes. And then why the match, she's melting, babe. And melting to the ground. Where she was just like, I was like, is she the, to, you know, we'll get into it. She is the dumbest or the smartest girl in the world or a little above.

But anyway, and so I reposted that because everybody now is seeing old episodes and everyone's going back. And, you know, it truly is like the sixth sense. When you know the ending of the movie, you go back and you're like, oh my gosh, nobody is directly talking to Bruce Willis. It's like, you know what I'm saying?

You're like, okay, now, so everyone's going back. Bravo's making it really easy for the fans to watch it. Everyone's like, thank God there's reruns of Vanderpump and not below deck because everyone complains that they replay below deck too often. So everyone out a lot. Yes, you can see on peacock and everything. So she goes for it. But you're like, who cares? Because you weren't into it. But now in retrospect, it's very weird that later on her competition comes out with you and this gets brought up at the next spot, which is the dinner in Havasu and she's like, yeah, he chose me, Lala.

And you're like, we were in competition and I'm like, okay, pageant girl. It was you are a pageant girl. No, it was like taking a hit of acid. I was like, I don't know how to break this down for you. This is not about all of her. This is about you calling me a mistress again. So when you don't know anything about my situation, shut the fuck up. So wait, let's just go back. So now you're back to the hotel. Of course you're sober. Yes. Katie drinks, but nobody else is drunk. Like, you know,

so if you sleep in a killer, it's pregnant at that time. So she didn't drink. I wasn't drinking. Katie handles her alcohol really well. Yeah, she's fine. So everyone's just like normal, but, you know,

Raquel, after her make out with Oliver in the dance floor, which is so cringey and gross, like I almost puke. And then, Can I just explain to you what that, please disco pussy was like the way they make it look on camera Was not how it was okay disco pussy was full of people that I can't even explain the music It was just a bunch of like loud noises that I

Can't even explain it was like drums that then like Zingying it was so like you couldn't even dance to it. So it was a bunch of like zombies who would obviously take in something they're there by themselves. They're on the dance floor with like lights in front of their eyes by themselves. It was not some like pop in place.

It was people that went there to like get stimulated and be whatever drunk they were on. Well, this episode was a weekend of non-popping places. Okay, so then, so you go back to the hotel and you guys are just like being girls and she comes around and she's buzzed and she's like, I know that you aren't supposed to put aluminum foil in the microwave, but I think plastic is fine and you're like, okay, that's where I'm just like, you are 28. Like, let's all remind ourselves, she's 28.

I know. So she's there and this is where you have a conversation about where she says, then you go, I gotta be honest, like I don't know that I'm so comfortable with you after a few drinks hanging around with my man. And she's like, well, it's good that you don't know that I'm so comfortable with you after a few drinks hanging around with my man. And she's like, well, it's good that you don't have a man then for me to take.

I was flabbergasted. I could not believe, and the second it came out of her mouth, you could tell it was immediate regret on her face. Well, the truth comes out when you drink. You know, I disagree with that. Okay. Maybe it was some people with me. I was out and I would constantly tell everyone they were super pretty and I wanted to hang out

with exchange phone numbers, never to see this person ever again. Like, I think, I think that's different. Okay. I think being loving everyone you're buzzed or making plans with people and then you never call them back. That's a different thing. I'm trying to like, you're a real character or what you might really think of somebody.

Like, if you've ever gotten really drunk and or someone's gotten really drunk and said something like, well, you, you know, and then they say something that like really cuts below the soul and the next morning you wake up and you're like, I think that's how you really feel about me. That's what I'm talking about. I think sometimes after drinks, something, but I also don't think she was that incredibly wasted either. She claims the next morning she doesn't remember what she said.

I don't totally believe that, but whatever. Yeah. And it's interesting because if we didn't know what we know now, the audience would be torn because you do see us laughing and making fun of her. Right, and she's like curled around the corner. It's like out of like a Brady Bunch episode. Yeah. Do do do do do do poor Rookal. And if we didn't know what we knew, like if this hadn't broken, I think you'd be getting some shit today.

And a little bit like you're the mean girls that invited the door to the summer party. And like. But by the way, we were having so much fun. When she got back, where I drew the line was when she spilled a plate of food on my floor where I'm gonna sleep in that bedroom. I'm very weird about where I'm sleeping.

I'm so sleepy. The smell of food. The smell of food, then she got marinara sauce on the blanket that my mom just washed for me before the trip. It was like enough already. I've had enough. You're like sloppy, go to bed. Sloppy go to bed.

Then she delivers the line. It was like, it's three o'clock in the morning. You're wasted. I'm feeling myself go to a place that I don't, because this year I really, just with everything I've been through, I really want to pick my battles. I don't love who I've been in the past.

Yes, is it who I am? Yeah, obviously, it's in me. But there's certain things I want to work on, and I was trying. So when she delivered that line, I wanted to chop her fucking head off. Right. But I didn't. I drew the line, said, remove yourself. We'll deal with this when you've sobered up. And it just kept getting, she wouldn't, she wouldn't let it rest.

I don't know. Everyone said she's found her voice. I took it as this girl is not okay and she has lost her mind. Like this is where someone needs to step in and help this girl. Right. So then you get in the car and start driving to have a suit.

And she kind of has a breakdown in which she reveals that the one of the last times they got that she and James were together was Thanksgiving and he was very cruel to her family, which by the way, not funny. But like it was awful according to her and we don't know if this is true because there's no witnesses, there were no cameras. But what he says is like an awful thing about her dad only being with her mom because you know, he does not love with her and her mom is old and fat.

And then they show a picture of the family which is a very nice looking family. But I was like, I would listen out of all the regrets and she should have a lot if I was our kelp. That would be one of them that I said on camera. Yeah, I would have never shared that. Because I'm like, that is just so embarrassing

to your parents, to your family, to everything. Like, we didn't need to know that part. Like, she said that. I know. She's going to just spend like, you know, he cut below the belt. And he said awful things about the family. And that's where I knew I couldn't go on. Like, are you not thinking at, I mean, I know the cameras are there, but you guys are, she said it in a confessional. In a confession. I feel like it's not on the fly. You have a minute to think your thoughts. There's many times we're in confessions

and a producer will say, like can't you just tell us in there times where I said there? And I'm like, no, this is all I'm willing to share. She does have the option to like not share the nitty gritty details about James body shaming her mom. Like, and I've met Rick Hell's parents and I had nothing but a pleasant experience with them.

However, James did tell me that Rick Hell's mom has called me some pretty nasty things. So I'm not the biggest fan of this woman or this man anymore. Right, got it. So, but still, yeah. But I also didn't feel the intention. I also feel the intention I also want to get the intention. But the intention was to put James in an awful light. No, instead I was cringing going. You're supposed to be the

one to like, shhata fuck up. Exactly. Yeah. So Chichi has a little breakdown. You guys get to have a sue and you go out to the dinner. And like the stuff is shocking what she says there. This is where you guys really kind of have it out. And you're at that point, what are you thinking? Because at that point she brings up the fact like you're a hypocrite, you slept with James when I was with him and you're like,

yeah, six years ago and I came clean about it. And she's like, yeah, but you're also, you were also the mistress and you went from a mansion to an apartment. So, yeah. Oh, and Charlie came off awful. It was not regretting this weekend and how she behaved. I think a lot of them are. I think a lot of them are going to regret co-signing on this person.

I was a little bummed out by either evolution or bravo, because my sobriety and my journey, I don't know if they don't think it's interesting enough to cover, I don't know if they like me being on the fence of issue mistress or was she not a mistress, I'm pretty over it. The reason I told Raquel that I hooked up with James is because that was one of the moments that when I decided to get sober and I had a sponsor that was on my list of things that I have

done in my life while drinking that I am not proud of. Now I didn't owe Rekel anything in the time I got sober. So I told my sponsor what happened and we put it to bed. Cut to where we are now, we started developing a friendship. I couldn't with a clear conscience. Be her friend when I had this like secret. It didn't feel good. So I just wanted to put it out there. What you couldn't have a girlfriend that you lied to for seven months straight. No, I couldn't. Oh, that's interesting.

No, I couldn't. Yeah, that's interesting. No, I couldn't. Yeah. I needed to tell her. And yes, it was six years ago, but there's a lot of things I did while I was drinking that I'm not proud of. Isn't it? It's just part of the recovery. Yeah.

No, it's not an excuse. This is, in fact, I didn't wake up one day and go, I had one bad night. I'm getting sober. This was a plethora of bad decisions that I've made in my time of drinking that led me to not drinking anymore. And I hate that when I said I was drinking and she says I was drinking that they cut out where I said, you're comparing your actions to me and alcoholic.

So if you're comparing your actions to mine, I suggest you look into your drinking. I said that, they chopped it out. Right. Um, and then when she said you were with a married man with a shit I've been through and the, the just amount of a lying that came with Burandel Emmett is, it like that word is so, you're so great. Well, it's so insensitive because it's like your life was just, you know, you, you, I mean, what's so crazy about this whole story is that I thought about it and as someone who's a fan of the show, I'm like,

the only time I felt this deceived for a friend is with you and, and your fiance and Randall, like why I didn't believe it at first and everything. Because I was like, no, no, no. And you know, because that just wasn't what was presented to any of us. And you're like, what kind of double triple quadruple life did this person that I was engaged to go to marry have a family with the stepmother to his family, living as a like, it's just devastating. And I, I know that life is not cookie cutter and things happen. Like if I got involved with Randall, and I knew that he was married and things just happened the way they happened. I would have no problem saying this is how it happened and I'm sorry, I wish I could change

it, but this is the story and now we're together and in love and had a baby. Like I was so blindsided when I had that conversation with Amber that like, yeah, oh, that time, yes, we were married. Oh, the time he said he was going way to do this, that is you and Amber. And by the way, I thought it was so lovely that Amber and the girls, her daughters, ocean sisters, all were there. Yeah, at the party. And we're so, so lovely as sisters. And we're so into playing with her and everything. It was really really cute. You know, that was the first time I saw those girls since I left a year and a half ago.

I know that must be really hard. I was really nice that that guy big you forming, you know, a nice friendship and and with Amber because of course it wasn't good in the beginning because of all the deception that he told either one of you. So now you know that like when he was saying I was separated and all this stuff, he was not. No, they were working on their marriage

through January of 2017. I mean, I, you know, and when he told me like about how he saw you at the restaurant and how he pursued you and had this part in the movie of the row and all that stuff, and he was like, you know, it was just really important that had to be secret on the show because even though I was going through a divorce,

it just didn't look good. That's what he kept telling me. Is I have kids and I want them to read things it just didn't look good. That's what he kept telling me. That's what he kept telling me. Is I have kids and I want them to read things that, you know, I was fully divorced from their mother. I don't want it to look a certain way, which by the way, I respected that. I was like, absolutely.

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That's thewaytheu e o u a i dot com code juicy. If there's kids involved and they're not mine, I will respect your wishes. And keep in mind, it's not like Amber came out and and was blasting like, Hey, by the way, still married, like no one was saying anything. And I for sure wasn't being kept a secret. I mean, he was bringing me to Miami to meet his mom and dad and what married man would be like, hey mom and dad, the wife's at home. I'd love you to meet my new girlfriend. So they in, so they thought it was done with him and Amber, but he was still like Amber

we can make this work and she was like, yes, let's try because we have two kids together. Honestly, I don't even know because I don't believe a word that he's ever said in his entire life. I truly believe he would fall over dead if he were to tell a truth. It's crazy. The smallest thing is a lie. I know it's so insane. Like even things that when you meet somebody that is making up lies that don't smallest thing is a lie. I know, it's so insane. Like even things that when you meet somebody that is making up lies that don't have to be a lie.

Like you're like, why did you tell me you had a bagel when you had a salad for lunch? Like a weird stuff. Right? Yeah, there are people like that. It's just shocking. It's so strange. Yeah, I mean, I think with what your situation was,

it was like, yeah, and you know, the thing is, separated is you can date someone when they're separated. Absolutely. Especially when you have money and you're married and there's kids at its California. And by the way, it could take nine years. A regular, just a regular old divorce where there's no assets, no nothing.

That takes six months. Yeah. Six months, you have to wait for a judge to even allow you to sign off on a device. So I do think when somebody's like, you're dating a married man and the person is no longer like living with the words they're telling them they're not with them, I think that's a reasonable thing to believe because what are you going to not? I mean, if all of a sudden I was like separate and said, you think I would wait until

the final to not ever like kiss someone or go out? No, of course. Like, so, you know, I don't think that's unheard of, but she throws that in your face. Yeah, which anyone who is like ruthless, anyone who doesn't know my situation, you would never, no one who knows my situation would ever call me that. And I didn't need to explain it to her. Right.

Because you're a low vibration person. Yeah, you said that I wrote that to her. I thought're a low vibration person. Yeah, you said that. I wrote that to her. I thought that was pretty good. You don't get too low, bro. Low vibration. Yeah. They are.

And I'm like, you don't need to break down ship for me. I lived this moment. I lived all of this. I'm still living it. So you don't need to break down anything for me. Disengage. I'm fucking out. I'm done.

So then you guys go back to have a suit the house in have a suit You all sleep and she's like, you know what? Hi guys, and I am not comfortable here and actually we're gonna go back to LA Because there's gonna be a guys night with shorts. It looks at Katie. Katie's like all right I can go weirdo like what at this point it's like, all right, go weirdo. Like, what at this point? It's like, and also just still, besides now we know everything, but like, so then they get to the Mondrian.

And for someone who has pursued acting, and I heard that Tom Sanneval, it's constantly a casting director put something out that how many times he submitting himself for acting roles still right now still recording this person allegedly and we've seen him in some lifetime movies and things like that and if you're ever think of hiring him as an actor just watch how fake his reaction is when Raquel shows up at the Mondra on for Guys Night. There is not a doubt in my mind

that they did not communicate prior to her walking in that she was gonna be there that night. Cause he's like, Raquel, hey, what are you doing here? No, it's the worst, I know. The worst. I know. I know it's so weird to watch back. And you're gonna see that there's something about that night

that you guys will see later on in the season. Sheena's vlog is really coming in handy, by the way, for Vanderpump rules. They're like, we need that, we need that footage. We need that footage. Well, I listen to a very Very telling podcast this morning. Okay, so there's this girl Jamie I think her podcast is Jamie all over and she is a very good friend. She was a bridesmaid in the Sheena wedding

Yes, I know Jamie. Okay. She's a very sweet girl. She's a vegan. She has a good. Yeah, her pie has about veganism and all this other stuff. Yeah, but a couple of businesses seems like she's got her head on shoulders. So they're really close. Any within their group, there's this other guy named Kale. And he's from the music industry, but he's a kind of like a life coach. Anyway, he's friends with everybody. So he's her guest on this show. And there's some juice that comes out of that.

Okay. This was just out of that. Okay. And this was just out just two days ago. So she says after the boys night, they, she meets, either she was there or she meets him across the street at the saddle ranch where you ride the bulls and stuff. Yes. And they close it down and the group of five of them or whatever. And at one point, she looks over and said, and Raquel are talking extremely intensely at the bar. Doesn't think anything of it. Yeah.

Then they get, they're outside. And she looks over in the two of them like on a curb talking again, Raquel and said, and she films this little video being like funny where it's almost like, have you seen the video? No. Okay, I've seen the video.

Okay, so she does little voices like making but again, make it think she shows it to them. They laugh. They think it's funny. So she's ready to post it and then she something just tells her like, I think this might be interpreted as a little too close for comfort for Ariana. So I'm not going to post it. So she doesn't. Okay, of course, this is August 4th or whatever. The wedding is like a week and a half later. She then says they all go to the wedding. And the party before the wedding is this white party, which we're going to see on the show. And that's where we see shorts make out with, um, with Raquel on camera for the first time on camera. And she's like, I look over and I see them making out. And then the next day I say to Schwartz,

like, how was that make out? And he goes, kind of weird. It was like kissing my sister. And at one point, Kale says, why was that that party too? And Ruck Kale went to him and was like, so they want me to make out with Schwartz. And he's like, I don't know who they is.

I don't know if they is. Santaval producers, her demon's hair. Santaval, but I don't know. they is, SantaVall producers, her demons are head. I don't know. Pushing for that very, very heavily. And now we know, I think I know from listening to the podcast itself that if not full-blowning stuff was happening after that settle wrench night.

Okay, that's my opinion. I'm not going to confirm or deny anything. I think what you learn later on about that night is going to shock you. The fact that this is put us up this seven month mark. The fact that this girl, Raquel, has the audacity to sit down, call me a mistress, wake up the next morning, leave, and then have what happened that night is mind-blowing. It's mind-blowing. Well, it's again with your situation where you're fighting for your life and your family in this situation

with your ex. It is the deception, the double life, the compartmental line, I don't know what these type of people do in their head to justify their behavior, or they don't, or they don't really, I think there are people I had Dr. Drew on today. And he said, he said, there's some people where it's an addiction, where it becomes an addiction,

which I'm gonna read this thing real quick. But he goes, but other people don't feel bad. Okay. And he goes, there are people that don't feel bad and those are bad people and they do exist. So, Dr. Drew is obviously a doctor. Yeah. I can only speak from experience.

I agree with him, but the prime example is Randall. I met up with his best friend. This was a while ago. But the prime example is Randall. I met up with his best friend. This was a while ago. He said, you know, I've talked to Randall. I told him, why do you keep getting into relationships? Because you know, he's in another one. And he said, why don't you just go out and like, live your life and be with whoever you want?

And it's about the sneaking around. It's that adrenaline rush, that high, that the sneaking around, it just gives them this like rush that they can't get anywhere else. So I feel like sand of all is the exact same way. I think he was getting off on the creeping around. I think Raquel fueled his ego, which in narcissists loves to be that ego. She was a full groupie. Yeah. He was the greatest thing since like sliced bread, right? Like she was obsessed. He needs that. And then when they get caught, it's the textbook. We weren't in a good place. We weren't having

sex anymore. Sanable in Ariana. Correct. So it's just, it's like, I've seen this movie, I've read this book a million times, I know it front to back, like what else do you have because you're not getting out of this, you are the piece of shit. There is no avenue you can take that's going to make me think I get it.

I don't get it. I think you're a piece of shit. Well, so I agree. So then also that's uncovered is you know, since though the kale guy is like good friends with Raquel and they're always talking to each other. He looks back now and he realizes that she's one of those people that really only called him when she needed anything and she'd act like she cared but she she really didn't. And a couple of things that came out that he said is at one point, she was sick in April of 2022.

And he says, I did take her to the hospital. And in April of 2022, she was not vaccinated because the vaccination thing came up in Du Moir. Is she in fact vaccinated? Did she say anything about that? So, so Jamie was like, I don't know about that. And then he was like, well, I know this. So whether she got after that or not, who cares?

But I'm just saying that's one of these rumors we've heard. Okay. This allegation allegedly, she did tell a cast member who she was extremely close to that her Vax card was not real. Allegedly this happened. Right. So I saw that. I've heard about this. And

listen, a lot of people feel about the subject like who cares, but it's just, it's just another thing that wasn't true. That's how I said. It's just another thing that you're comfortable about not being truthful about. Well, and also, you know, we, you have to be vaccinated to be on the show. Right.

Like it is a requirement. So whether your stance is pro or against vaccines, whether your stance is pro or against vaccines, it's another element of like you are a liar. Right. I'm not gonna say what my stance is on the vaccine, but I will say mine was real. Yeah, and I think people's minds and all that, that's what I'm saying, but it was just,

that was sort of an interesting thing that brought up so I just wanted to address it. And then he said, he heard from her when it all happened that Thursday night, when it was all revealed. And at that time, she cared more about using Shinu will ever talk to me again. So it's interesting that she's like sad

about her friend being mad at her on Thursday. And then by Saturday, she goes to the urgent care three days later in LA and on Sunday or that on Monday, files paperwork for a temporary restraining order. Right. So she was, you know, and he's like, look, I think you are done with these friends, you know, and you've got to move on.

But it's like, now it's the PR and trying to save and rewrite the thing and she and he goes, you know, you'll be a stronger person one day because of this. She goes, oh no, I'm stronger right now or I'll be stronger because of this and he's like, wow, like before the remorse, before the like, like losing your friends,

you're thinking, well, something, you know, about yourself, something good will, or I will be a better person for it or more Favourite. I don't know what her side. He thinks she's very smart though this guy. He thinks she's very smart. He thinks she's very manipulative and a lot smarter than people think. That's his opinion now. He's that that wasn't his opinion like now in retrospect. Well, I think that we get these two things confused when someone moves like a snake and they manipulate we're like, oh, she's smarter. No, this is called, this is called the devil working. Right.

This is not a smart person. A smart person would have parlayed that she was a fan favorite. She's finally a main character on a giant show that she was a fan of. She was a fan of a smart person would have made all the right moves to set herself up for greatness well beyond this show, which she did have the potential to do. Yeah.

Instead, she fucks her best friends dude, and I don't think there's any coming back. Like, none of these people will speak to her again. Maybe Tom Sandevol and Schwartz, you know, right. Sandevol because obviously they were hooking up and Schwartz is weak. So he, at that point, he says, Kale says that she says we are in love,

we wanna be together, but then within a few days when he talks about, they figure out that there is no way to know if someone is recording a FaceTime session or not. Then she was disappointed that happened with Santa Valkyrie saving the FaceTime. But we don't know if she was like, save it. We don't know. Look at it every night. I don't know. But at that point, according to this kale guy, she says,

I know now he isn't the one for me. But you know, that was a week, like who knows, every day it's probably changing, but this is his account. And all I know is that- I do know there's still in communication. Yeah. Yeah.

For the hearing that's going to happen for Sheena, I predict, there's my prediction. Everybody in prediction. She will withdraw or not show up on the 27th on the 29th on the 29th I agree because if she does she's going to be buried she will be buried she will have kale she'll have Jamie she could have as many of you as she wants right as character witness and witnesses to what Raquel has shared or told you in a timeline. And, you know, they, it is, it is not easy to get a three year or five year restraining order. It is not easy. It takes a lot of work.

I think Raquel, just being in the court system, I think Raquel thinks you just like file this. She's going to show up on the 29th and be granted something. Yeah. This, they're going to show up on the 29th and be granted something. Yeah. This, they're gonna show up, it's gonna be punted to a later date, it'll then get punted to a later date. Things like this cost a lot of money. I don't know, I don't know that, okay,

I've been in the restraining order game. I've experienced it. It's not a big deal, if it's not thrown out, it's just gonna keep getting punted to a later date. If it could be, it could be that A, she just doesn't show up. Okay. And then it's thrown away. If Sheena didn't show up, then it would probably be granted, which we know she's just gonna show up.

Sheena's gonna show up. She never said her lawyer is excited. But if they all show up, it won't get pushed off. If they show up, they will start it. Like it is set for that time. They will start it. They don't want, this is not like a trial thing. So I'm saying,

I'm just the first she knows will prevail. I don't think they're gonna call witnesses to the stand on the 29th. Well, you can bring that's when you bring the people to fight it, to fight it or to get it. So like if you felt like you needed it, you would bring any like if you were in a situation where God forbid someone witnessed the person you're trying to get restraining order do something or say

something you you bring all those people because you know so we'll see I know she's gonna prevail but my prediction is that Rekal with all this is coming out, she's gonna realize she doesn't have a strong case and she's gonna be like, I just, I don't, you know, she'll just drop in. I saw this coming. I knew her dad was gonna get in her ear. She needs to desperate people freak me the fuck out. When someone starts getting desperate, I'm like, okay, this is when they start doing things that, you know, once you put something out there, even though it may or may not be true, you cannot take it back. So she's grasping for anything that's going to save her. And I knew she would

do this. And we don't know with the reunion what the situation is going to be with them, like in the room or zoom or whatever. All I know is they cannot be in the same room, and they also can't even speak to each other. So whether someone zooms in or not, like they can't even split screen or anything. Yeah, they won't be communicating. One of them cannot be in the room when the other person is there.

Zoom or not, they can't even speak to each other. Right, got it. So anyway, the episode was super juicy. You ended up... Did you like it? I did like it. So, um, anyway, the episode was super juicy. You, and- Did you like it? I did like it. You go to have a sue and that the group of guys next you was not great, but you know what? It was, it was fun to watch guys. They seemed nice, but I'm just saying no one was like down to like get together. The lake. Oh, those guys on the lake. I thought you meant the night. Yeah, then you go to the night. You're like, this is the highlight. But that can be kind of. Yeah, then you go to the night. You're like, this is how to like, but

That can be kind of fun. And then you did meet a guy that seemed pretty cute and you you did date that guy for a minute Can I tell you I'm a black contact. I It's so strange to me that the two dudes the one that Katie was seeing and the first dude that I was with since we split from our X's. So the guy at disco puts me with Katie's dude with the mustache. And she never hooked up with him. There's a guy that she met, you'll see him on the show. Okay, okay.

That was her first hookup since, or no, maybe it wasn't her first hookup. She had a lot of fun. I was a little wounded. Still, I was like, I don't know that I'm ready for all that. But these two guys that appear on the show with us, the one that I met in Havasu, like they were the two that were just like the best.

Yeah. Things that were supposed to be a one-nighter, like talk to you never again. I was like, oh my gosh, they're so sweet. The dawn took a piece of my heart. The bucket hat. Bucket hat. Okay. Yeah.

Is he still swarming around? Is he still flying around a little? We communicate. Okay. All right. So this is a juicy scupper wrote this to me and just came in this morning. I was the Raquel, she's being honest about her own self. I cheated with a man married

to one of my best friends. We snuck around for months. He came onto me one night and I didn't stop him. It was like a drug. I couldn't get enough. I was in the lowest place of my life. I loved the attention. I eventually ended it. It's been 15 years, but I think of it often. I've been in therapy over it. It's my life's biggest regret. The irony a couple of years ago, I discovered my husband was cheating on me with a 25-year-old karma, perhaps. Can't help but feel sorry for Raquel because I know how easy it is to be swept up in something like this. Feel free to roast me in the comments.

You won't be saying anything I don't say to myself. I just thought it was interesting to, and she put this in anonymous, that I'm keeping her anonymous, and I just thought it was interesting to hear someone's perspective, because we all are the biggest thing is like, who does this, and I know that just people do it, because I could see in all the discussions

in my groups and stuff, the people that were like, God, you stopped making it about Raquel! And I'm like, what did you do? Like, that's okay, but obviously, and I've even said, I know there's people who are listening to a show that have been Raquel. We know it. And how they, why they did it, how they recover,

what do they tell themselves, whatever, did they not care, did they not off on it? Was it like, did they not care? Did they all font it? Was it like, did they have better orgasms? Because it was a cheating thing, probably. Like, I don't know, because I've never been in that situation. Thank God, but I thought it was just, I think because when a dude, obviously, like, I can't stand Tom Sandevol and the fact that he recorded her without her knowledge, if that's really what happened,

I think is absolutely disgusting. But I feel like when a man does a woman dirty, the only thing they have after that is their girlfriends, right, is what you lean into. And to find out that it's the girl that you're best friends with, who you would normally go to in this situation to give you strength, I just think the whole thing is dirty.

And I understand, we're never gonna be able to relate to something that we've never been in that situation before. So I understand where this girl is coming from. I don't know that her husband cheating on her, was her karma, could it be maybe, I don't know that her husband cheating on her was her karma. Could it be maybe I don't know who might be the judge, but just at this point in time, maybe with time passing, I can feel for a cow. I said from the jump, Katie said, Christina said, this girl needs help and guidance. And every single person up here was saying she's found her voice,

let her go out there and make mistakes and do this that and the other, where I was seeing it from a 30,000-foot view, just because of my own situation. This is going to end badly, right? It ain't so cute when you're the girl whose man she's fucking, right? Not so cute when she delivers a line like that.

Yeah. It's a good thing you don't have a man. And when it's your man. And you never liked her. You never liked her that night. She's always triggered me. You tried to get her the better for the doubt of me friends. One thing that the kale guy said in this podcast is he said,

she, her concern was always what does Lala think. And you know, what does Lala think? And he was like, whoa, whoa, you just proved Lola right all along. Lola wants to light your ass on fire. Just like she's always wanted to do, just like she's done for the past five years. Now in the show this season, we see that

Santa Vall was very insensitive to your situation. And he says something like, well, yeah. And then you go have a baby with somebody, you know, like that. With a guy like that. And so now you're a guy like that. So say you are a Randall. Right, and when he said this,

do we know what month he said that in the shooting where it was he already getting? Here's where I'm at with it. You don't just suddenly fall on someone's dick. There was a level of comfortability. The line was crossed a long time ago. Right. Whether it was text message.

Whatever someone says. Touching. Whatever someone says it, cheating, it was an accident. I literally have said an accident is when you forget to stop filling the pool and it overflows. That's an accident. The accident was like, oh, I slipped and fell. And a dick was inside of me.

And I was like, if I didn't wear these heels, I wouldn't have slept in the sun. I wouldn't have slept in the sun. That sounds dick, yeah. Right? Continue, go on. So the line was crossed well before they first hooked out. Right, obviously.

All the shoulders at Coachella. The whole thing has been not right. All right, right. I've been picking up the scent of Rekel's pH balance being a little fucking off. Okay, let's just say that. So for him to say something like that, she should have known better than to get knocked up by a dude like that. It was so. You're that dude, which also triggered me because Heather, I think about that all the time. Like, what did I bring this little innocent being into?

How could I not have been smarter? How was my daughter having to pay for my stupidity and me keeping my blinders on and not wanting to see Red Flag? Like I beat myself up over that daily. I didn't need someone like Sand of All to say something like that. Well, it's also a just an insensitive thing because whenever there is now a child on this earth, it's meant to be for all those reasons. Right. And I actually saw something

a long time ago, which I thought was so amazing. And it actually was a Tony Robbins thing. Okay. And he's this daughter and her mom were both there. And they're like, we're here because, you know, her father, my ex, just did us wrong. It was awful and everything. And he was like, yeah, but you wouldn't be who you are if he was a nice fabulous person. Totally. be who you are if he was a nice fabulous person. Totally. So it's like it's you everything is what makes you who you are. And you know, and she's already just like she's so well adapted. You could throw that kid into any situation and she's going to be so happy and make it work. And I don't even think that she realizes the power that she has, obviously, because she's only two. But without ocean, I would have just moved on with my life. Right. But because I have her, I have to put up a big fight to not only protect her,

but she opened up the door for many victims to come to me and share their story about Randall. And because of ocean, I won't give up this fight. Not just for ocean, but I can't stop, I can't unhear what I've heard. So, she's giving me this strength to end something that has been so wrong for so wrong. Someone who has continued this behavior for 25 years. Like, she's the driving force behind it. And she like doesn't even realize that, you know? But in the end, the world's going to be about our place because she's here. Mm-hmm. For so many people, not just her mom, and not just your family, and it's so

incredible that your mom lives with you and your brother's always there and you make shift family of like your best friends and everything. It's you know, but besides that, what will come of it will be all better for everyone. Yeah, you know, at the end of this, you know, she gives me strength in so many different ways that I won't ever be able to describe to her. You posted something on your stories, like a reshare, that I thought was really interesting a day or two ago. And it was from this, it was like, from like a community. And it was basically like a statement of like, a mother or a parent doesn't go through

lawyers, $1,000,000, courts, their reputation being tarnished, people not believing them, making their career suffer. If their child's other parent was a safe place for that child to spend their time. Right. So when a parent does feel the need, the one of the no choice, but to go for the sole, you

know, physical custody and have the, when they do go for that and they don't settle at a 50-50. There is a reason. There is a reason. It's an e. It would make, I think anybody would like to end something emically with their ex and have every other week and off to themselves as a single woman if we're doing it like that. The person that goes through all of that, it's not because it's like, I want to get you. There's no way you would spend all this money,

all this energy, all these tears, all this stuff. If there wasn't such a compelling reason that you feel that this is the only interest of your child, not the best interest, the only interest of your child. There can be no other version. Oceans future and well-being depends on me in this fight. I am spending crazy amounts of money on lawyers. I've spent more than some people will see in a lifetime.

And I don't know how I'm doing it. I don't say no to really anything that's going to bring in money because I can't give up the fight. I know that if she, if it doesn't end with her in my care, it's going to be a travesty to her future. Well speaking of lawyers, you've got your sweatshirt and it it to Darryl. A video that's gun viral. You did get a letter sent to your email Yeah, by Raquel's lawyers say what don't share The video which you didn't have anyway. I

Literally responded to her lawyer don't ever send me a direct email ever again. I have counsel, I don't have the video, nor do I want it, and I haven't seen it. My eyes would light on fire, and I sent that to him. And then I screen-shotted my response and the letter and sent it to Darryl. And people have found Darryl. He's a successful lawyer who seems

like a good person as well. So he's a real lawyer. Yes. And I hope he gets a sweatshirt out of this as well. Well, I asked him. I said, I posted a video and I ended up taking it down because I was like, I wanna give you a peaceful work day. Yeah.

But like, it's already out there, and I kinda wanna make merch now, or you find with that. And he said, go for it, as long as I get a sweatshirt. And he said, I know about this, because I've been getting phone calls and emails about it all day. I was like, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize, I just went on a rant and like, posted it. I had no idea that send it to Darryl was

Did you see the thing I set you with Lucy from From Charlie Brown. Yeah, yeah, I was like Darryl Baby to take care of I don't need to see this in the morning. I don't want to see that ever Send it to Darryl. It's so funny. Yeah Well speaking of videos this was the other thing said in james all around the world. What is that Jamie all over? When james is asked to leave by security at the Canyon Club because he was getting too

loud talking to his girlfriend or whatever, this girl, Jamie, said she witnessed Rock Kell try to film it with her phone. And then a fan was filming it as well. And Brock, this is all a legend on this podcast, Brock then goes, hey, you can't do that. Give it to me, send it to me, and then delete it please, and let me make sure you delete it. So I guess he did or something. Okay.

And then the girl, the fan comes around, is kind of like hanging around, and the JB girl is like, can you like not be ease dropping, whatever? And so, she then says that Rukkel, then allegedly said to her, can you, I'm going to give you these videos because I have it. She got it from the girl fan and I have my own.

And I want you to tell, I told production you have it and I need you to then sign a release saying that they can use it. And she was like, I am absolutely not doing that. That's not true. And like, to make it look like it didn't come from her. Yeah, she wanted it out there, but she didn't want it to ever come back where you guys then could be like, what the fuck? Rukkel, like you know, because she said to her,

she goes, Rukkel, has he ever been physical or anything with you and she said, no. So then she was like, I'm not going to feed this narrative and have people think this about James when it's not true. And he was just a little annoyed or whatever hot headed at the thing. So anyway, so that was another thing that was another untruth allegedly. Right, and see. But those are the type, that's the type of person that scares me. Like Katie, me, James,

everyone talks about our mouths and how like insane we are and crazy, but at the end of the day, like you know what you're getting. There's no surprises when it comes to the three of us. But we're kind of outcast because we weren't getting along with Raquel, we didn't dig her. We were on the fringe of the friend group. During this time, yeah.

During a lot of times, you know, we weren't allowed to have real emotion because your mouth, your entitled, your're this, that and the other. When really you gotta be afraid of the people who are moving in that way where they're sending videos, it's like if you wanna light him on fire, just tell us, you wanna light him on fire. Yeah.

We'll all help you do it. You're right. I'm all about a man doing you dirty. Let's blast this motherfucker, all right? But she moves like a snake and you're gonna see. I called this even before cameras pick back up again and all of this happened. I'm so glad Andy Cohen co-signed on the fact

that these episodes have not been re-edited to fit the storyline. You just would have been more torn on how you felt about her. Right. Right. If you didn't know what had transpired. Right. Well, so juicy.

Okay. So get some other juicy stuff happen. You watch Real House House of Potomac, right? Of course. Juan Dixon has been let go from his coaching job. Robin Dixon's husband. Okay. To remind people they were married, they got divorced, they dated and then they got remarried. But part of that, it all got found out that he was seeing a other woman.

But she claims it was just like an emotional thing and nothing physical ever happened. By the way, if a ball, this girl who was like dating a Baltimore Ravens player is, she's coming into town in this NFL player is not paying for her hotel I am not buying it all right. I've I've hooked up with many A football player in my day, all right, and even the one nighters are getting a free room Okay, the story that Robin told that was what she and what she believes happened was and what she believes happened was one was bored one day and he was DMing this girl and they became friends and she said I'm coming from Canada to screw this Baltimore player. And then she lost her wallet at a casino and went to O'Hall and didn't have anyone in her

world that could help pay for her room except for the guy that she DM'd once, and that was Juan Dixit. And then Juan Dixit came over in person to pay for the room and then said, I hope I did my Christian service for the year and I hope you have a good nap. And then he left and then Robin married him. And now he got fired, but you know there's the scoop about what happened at this this place at the place that he was working at

there was another coach where there was something happened in the situation i can't fish situation and it's one new about it but didn't handle it properly let me just read it to remind to remind people i like it so um there was a lawsuit filed against the school alleging that an assistant coach on Dixon staff sexually assaulted and blackmailed a former player by tricking him into sending nude photos of himself. So he, this other male assistant, was into this player and did a catfish as a woman and was like send me photos of you so you're nude and then once he did allegedly once he did then The assistant was like oh my god. I'm being catfished by this girl too

And we're both gonna like lose our place because now we've like sent new photos to this person and the only way she will not blackmail us if you and I have sex and we film it or be J. or something so then the guy did so it was like a quadruple catfish anyway allegedly one Dixon may have had I don't know if that has to do with any of him getting let go or if it's because of the Potomac season or what. But a lot of people wanted to see Robin Dixon go because they were pissed that she didn't share all this. No, Robin's coming back. Robin and her unemployed one Dixon husband are 100% listen, Robyn's coming back. Robyn and her unemployed one, Dixon husband are 100%.

Listen, make lemonade at 11, chick. You may have lost your job, but you just secured another year. So that happened. That's so sad. It's like, wait, you have utter heartbreak, but trail shit has hit the fan. Right, we want you back.

How much you want. No. You're getting married and having a baby we're so happy for you. Not interested. Yeah. Not interested at all. You're sober and have a wonderful charity.

And your kids are doing great. And you and your husband are completely nice and normal. We're not seeing much of a storyline here for you. Why are you so fucking boring? That. It's not really. It's not your mind fuck. I'm telling you what.

This is Gone viral. This is pretty juicy. What is Paltrow? Are you a fan of the goop.com and all that she does? I know nothing about it except for that it exists and it's hers. Me too. Anyway, she does an interview and it went viral yesterday and it's her talking to some doctor about her wellness journey.

What her she does in a day, she says, I eat a small dinner, then I do a 16 to 18 hour intermittent fast. Then I have my first cup of coffee at 12 because I don't want to spike my sugar. And I like to have, I mostly have bone broth, bone broth, bone broth for lunch. And then I only pay Leo for dinner in between. I either, you know, do Pilates of Tracy Anderson.

And then I do the dry brushing and I go to my dry brushing. I think you take a brush and you just like, but you're aren't wet and you exfoliate your body and then she goes in the infrared sauna and she's working on her, you know, and gets her, she's detoxing. So all these people are matching and on TikTok. And I thought someone brought it up great.

They're like, what, after 10 years of having a goop and your detox stuff and all of your detox products that she's pitching in this interview, you haven't gotten it out yet? Like how much toxins are left in your body? If you, like maybe I don't want to buy your goop shit. If 10 years later, you still have toxins left in your body. Right? It's like, so, and then. I don't think I've done a detox ever.

Maybe I should. Ah, no. I have it there with this thing where people would put this thing on their feet. Yeah. And they'd be like, oh, and then you pull it off and it's black in the morning. Yeah, and I saw something like, now it's bullshit.

It's not anything. I just feel like a solid bowel movement in the morning is detox enough. Me too. You know, like, as long as I can get rid of like the tostito cheese and chips that I made the night before, disgusting, it's 12 a.m. during a time-

It's starting to start. It's starting to start to start. It's starting to start to start. It's starting to start to start to start. It's starting to start to start to start. It's starting to start to start to start. It's starting to start to start to start. It's starting to start to start to start to start. It's starting to start to start to start to start to start. It's starting to start to start to start to start. It's starting to You know what? I wouldn't enjoy my life. And this does not look like an enjoyable life.

I don't want to dry brush myself. They color the almond mom, do you know what the almond mom is? No, what is that? That's just the other thing where people say, I had an almond mom meeting. My mom was like one of those people that was like, just have a handful of almonds. Like just like a mom that like really

kind of screwed up their daughter about eating habits. Oh, because they were opposite. They were thin. Yeah. Your mom is gorgeous, by the way. No, she's, yeah, she, but I'm glad she's done in all of them and mom. Yeah, she likes to like have a meal.

We stay eating at our house. Not the healthiest stuff at times, but it's okay. We enjoy it. Well, to be a healthy chef, she says things like I would rather, in the past, in the area she said, I'd rather smoke crack than eat cheese from a can,

like a whiz of can cheese. And then she's never had cheese whiz, or cheese out of a can, because it is absolutely fantastic and mind-blowing. And she said the same thing about I'd rather do something, whatever, if I then feed my kid soup from a can. And I just think it is such an entitlement that you came from famous parents,

you're super wealthy, you know how to make soup, and that's great, and you can open your fridge, and you have stuff to make a soup with. Right, who has people that don't have that time, that money, and they do eat cheese from a can, and they do eat food from a soup and they do eat food from a suit. And it's delicious. It's just fantastic.

And the fact that you're promoting someone's smoking crack over eating cheese out of a can is absolutely terrifying to me. I think when a paltrow is a big dick and I don't care to be, I don't think we have a future together as friends or business opportunities. So I'm ready to go hardcore. There's that girl, the girl Meredith Lynch, who I love. She just said, I think she's bringing this up to deflect from a lawsuit that's coming to fruition right now.

Oh, so Gweneth Peltro was in Deer Valley in 2016 and she completely ran into this guy. Hit him with a car? Nope, with her body. She's skiing. She's skiing with her, you know, skiing companion who is an employee of Deer Valley, whatever a coach or what all of it.

Instructor. Yeah. Nox and down there's witnesses and everything. He has a concussion, he has three broken ribs. Oh shit. She really took him out. And then she just takes off. She takes off with her instructor,

and he's like, and the guy goes, do you see what you did to Gwyneth Paltrow? And he's like, what? She came up behind me. And she, and also he said he heard her screaming. So he's showing for like 300,000. It's coming up this week. So Meredith thinks I think she did this

kind of shocking interview possibly on purpose to deflect from the fact that she's got this lawsuit. Now I know skiing rules. I am not a good skier. But you get a lot of trouble if you come down, you know, the person in front of you has the right of way. They can't see you as you're coming. And so when you're coming down and you hit someone,

you are to stay there, you are to, you know, possibly. And if someone sees that you were being reckless, they can take your, you're bad. And you can't ski anymore. But in this case, she just went. And so she's going to the belt row. She's saying now that her instructor told her to leave and it's dear valleys fault and everything in the deposition. So I don't know where it's going to the bell trope. She's saying now that her instructor told her to leave, and it's gear valleys fault and everything in the deposition.

So I don't know where it's going to happen with this case, but as you as someone from Utah, are you a good scare? Hell no, my parents used to try and make me go skiing and I'd lock myself in the bathroom. Well, you were scared or? Yeah, I hate skiing. I just don't see that like strapping something to your feet and then flying down a hill just seems a little bit dangerous to me.

Okay. So no. Well, let's talk about the real house. Not as city. Not as city. Did you hear that Mary Cosby is back? Yeah. Do we like this because they're in Palm Springs filming right now.

There's witnesses according to the Queens of Bravo plus. Palm Springs. Next up, Reading California. No offense to Reading. I'm just saying not a vacation spot. is according to the queens of bravo plus. Next up, writing California. No offense to writing. I'm just saying not a vacation spot. Like, I mean, Palm Springs is free.

Woodland Hills, California. You guys are going to have the greatest time at the Woodland Hills Marriott and Warner Center. No, don't. We are gonna go to the village for a cop of salad. No, I, yeah, I don't know why. But they're filming and Mary Cosby's back. So it's crazy that they get rid of one person,

hoping that another one will be indicted because her legal thing with her cult stuff, I don't know if she'd be indicted. I don't know why she would throw herself on T-Cut. I don't cut after me. I'm just saying there was a lot about her church and former members coming forward. That was not favorable.

So I don't know if more will come out about that. I don't know if she's completely ended. I went to the church. Yeah. Didn't you say that like five people there? No, it was like closed up. And it was closed up. So if she has in fact,

and I think the smart thing for Mary Cosby to have done is ended her time as a church leader, closed the church, and just be a full-time housewife. But Heather, that's not how it works. Just because you've now closed the doors, it doesn't make it like, can't come after me. I know a lot of people, including a little somebody who's like, I no longer in with that company, it's like, well, you were and you did dirty shit, and now you have to pay for it. We're happy for you that you've stopped's like, well, you were and you did dirty shit and now you have to pay for it.

We're happy for you that you've stopped doing whatever it is that you were doing and you've closed the doors, but you still gotta be held accountable for the shitty things you did. Exactly. So there's also some stock of, do you think the Kardashians are? Where are they?

They have not popped up in my explore page in a minute. They used to fill the explore page. They are nowhere to be found now. I definitely feel they're not getting the buzz. And so there's this thing, a lot of people are saying, are we kind of, how they are becoming less relevant?

I mean, I just, I do think people don't care as much. I think like once Kim got with Pete Davidson, that was a lot of press, once they broke up, we're kind of like, who cares? I don't know if she's going to get somebody else. I mean, she's a busy woman of four. She probably doesn't want to get with anyone else. But who could she get with that would be like mind blowing? That we would care to talk about? I don't know. And then like Chloe with the Tristan thing, she's supposedly back with him. It was his birthday. And Chris did like seven stories about what a great father is and how great he is. So and he went to the Malika's birthday party, the twins.

Yeah. He was there. So people think they're back together. Meanwhile, Courtney has gotten no attention since she married. Yes, he has over with that. So she got her hair blonde. Nobody cares. And Kendall is dead dating bad bunny. Nobody cares. No, he cares.

Kylie might not be with Travis Scott anymore. Who cares? Nobody cares. You know how they could be relevant again? How? Chris Jenner needs to get pregnant. That, that I would care about. Right?

I mean, I don't even think Chris Jenner cares enough to like, marry Corey to get some stuff out of you. But I don't think anyone would even care about that. No, nobody would care. That would be boring. I can't think of one thing I would care about. You know, they're set for life. They have great products. Yes, good, good would care. That would be boring. I can't think of one thing I would care about. You know, they're set for life. They have great products. Yes, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good could just go on and just be business women and moms. That seems like the dream to me. Why not?

Like to have an empire and not be in the press but like balling out. Yeah. That is the dream. But maybe, you know, it's like, what comes first to chicken her at the egg? Are they, do they procure this press or does these things happen in their life and then the press comes and right now,

just like a reality show that's about to get fired from the housewife show, they don't have any storylines. I know they just don't have any storylines and if she gets back with with Tristan nobody cares. No, no, we're not going to be sharing them on but also nobody cares enough to be like, Hey, you you're crazy. No, we already went through that. Yeah, right. We already went through that and even if you were to go and get someone else pregnant again, it's like we've seen this movie But Tuesday, right no one cares no one cares Okay

See here. They is on the birthday. Oh, is that the new is that his new baby? Yes, that's the new baby call We don't know this we still don't know Chloe's new baby's name they like to wait. Oh, that's his baby So just you don't have any we don't even care the love child. I to wait a little year. Oh, that's his baby. So does he not have any communication with the love child? I don't care what Chloe, oh, the love child, I don't know, but she, she, yeah, she gets paid. Yeah, this is his other son. She has four, so you're right.

The love child one from in between is not in this photo. Okay. They didn't feature that. And we still don't know this latest baby's name. So do we care? No, we don't care anymore. We're too long. We're too long. So we're too long.

So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long.

So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long.

So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too long. So we're too cute. So Selena does a little photo of herself. And she writes, today is International Women's Day and I want each of us to be a gently to ourselves, write your younger self, and stick it on your mirror and remind yourself that you deserve. Okay. Then, like two days later, Haley Bieber does also post a childhood photo of herself. No offense, not as cute.

And right, and is like hugging this little girl extra tight. Now, they were getting a lot of press. Haley was not having a good week. And then Raquel gave her a week off, OK? Raquel gave a lot of people from time off. Didn't she? And even CNN was like, who are these people? The New York Times? Hold up. We need to report on this.

It was the craziest shit. Yeah, so she got it. Thank you, Rick Hell, for giving A-list celebrities a week off. Yes. And so anyway, she, um, it is weird. She does a lot. She's very obsessed, you know, very,

but the copying is continuing. So I'm like, once we, everyone has done a million tech talks on how much you copy, you just copy to get after the scandal. So I'm like, again, now she's feeding into it. Yes. Okay. She's feeding into it. All right. I can appreciate the talk about her. I can appreciate that. All right. Did you watch Jersey last night? Yeah. Didn't watch last nights. Nothing, not you watch Jersey last night? Yeah.

Didn't watch last nights. Nothing, not much happened. They did the baseball tournament that they've done three years of the row, which literally is 45 minutes of us watching them play baseball. What is that? It's Dolores's charity, which is great. Again, see? But what are we talking about?

We were like, good things we don't want to see. How dysfunctional is this world? Well, I'm just like, I don't need to see all the baseball playing, but I mean, you know, it's just the constant Melissa versus Teresa, will they ever? But one thing that happened was Teresa said, you know, Antonio, which is Melissa and Jo's daughter had a sweet 16. And when Melania had hers or something,

that way, hold it. When Melania had her sweet 16, Antonio, Antonio couldn't come, because she has a chair competition. Well, I heard from a couple of chair competition moms, and they're like, yeah, you can't blow it off for a sweet 16. I don't care who's it is, because the routine is based on all the people

and this thing. Of course, have you seen Cheer Cops? Yeah, there's a whole movie, bring it on. Have you seen that shit? I mean, they do not mess around. So all this tit for tat, who came, who didn't, what's a good excuse, what's not a good excuse? And if that's what family is, I don't want it, what family is I don't want it y'all can have it

So You'll have it on that one. I'm least supposed to be like I totally get it I will back and forth between Theresa and Melissa on that one Ding ding ding Melissa wins for her daughter sticking to her squad at the cheer competition Nicolette sherdidan posted this on Twitter, knocking at my door. Now Nicolette Sheridan was the blonde from Desperate Housewives'

the scripted show. Correct. Notting at my door how desperate are you all to have me at BravoTV at Andy? Hashtag Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Oh, what a savage move. Now Nicolette Sheridan was an actress who was on Desperate Housewives, which is what

the whole reality was kind of parroting. She did sue Mark Cherry, the creator of it, and it kind of made her black, she was sort of blackballed for that. She felt that- What was the reason? She felt that they killed her off, and it was like, you know, I'm going to screw up the story, but she did a whole lawsuit. I don't think she prevailed in the end, but she felt she was done dirty and then in saying that she brought up other things that were not flattering to Mark Cherry and her time on set. But really, in the end, she really did not work for a really long time. I don't remember seeing her anywhere She was married to Harry Hamlin Harry fucking Hamlin before he married Lisa Rina. Yeah

Is this I know she was also married too? Can you look this up? I Think she was also married to or dating she was dating Aaron who then married? You are married. I think they were married. She was married and we got to get her on Oh my god. We have to bring back Denise. Nicola Sheridan. We are desperate But to me this seems like knocking at my door how desperate are y'all to have me meaning like Show me the bag of money like how desperate are you already knocking at all or she just throwing it up We don't know because they're filming right now So but but they can always bring someone.

Jill Zarens said on my show that she ran into Kathy Hilton at the Vanity Fair Oscar party. Of course she did. And she said, Jill is fabulous. And I said, Jill, I go, so the only housewives that were at the Vanity Fair party

because a bunch of them were at Elton John, were you and Kathy Hilton and she goes, Kathy's not a, is not a housewife right now. She's not, she said she's not filming. She's not a, is not a housewife right now. She's not, she said she's not filming, she's not doing it right now, stop filming right now. And I thought that was kind of juicy

because I thought she was. Now that Lisa Rinne is gone. I thought that was the, the seal. Yeah, I think I would have been more shocked if she was filming. I, I think it's because I've seen photos of the girls together. On their way to Vegas, she wasn't there.

She wasn't there. There's been like a crystals birthday. Yeah, there's been a few group shots where like Kathy Hilton's not in it. Interesting. Okay. Anyway, you know these Oscar gift bags. I thought this was kind of interesting because people just want to know about these. Jill also on my thing must have talked about how there was no gift bag at the Elton

John party. She mentioned gift bag at the Elton John party She mentioned gift bag like 25 times. It was hilarious. I Know get a few times and I don't remember ever them ever having gift bags So if anyone else has gone to it and there was a point in time where they did do that I Devin in my time going no gift bag, but to be honest. I mean, please send me gift bags, but I don't really love a gift bag. Gift bags have gone. Just more stuff. Just more stuff I got to figure out where to put it.

Gifting sweets and gift bags have gone way down. Way down in the last 10 years. Usually a t-shirt. This is what this, though, the Oscar gift bag is worth if you were to use everything in it. 126,000. And the IRS does view gift bags as taxable income. So if you use any of this stuff, you're going to have to put it as your income. There is a $40,000 stay in Canada for like a vacation, a resort.

Okay. A $9,000 stay in Italy that you could use. $10,000 with a Botox. There's some chocolate covered pretzels in a hand soup. There's always a few like random things. But the only people that get swag bags were the host Jimmy Kimmel, the best director nominees, the best actor nominees, the best actress nominees, and best supporting nominees,

and best supporting. So only the name of the news. So all the nominees fully afford to do all of these things. We'll probably never use any of it. No one's going to go on the vacation thing. And it's not like you can give that to someone else. They want the person to go to the Canada place or the Italy place. And I doubt anyone's like those people don't, well, you know what?

I take that back because what's kind of amazing about the people that won the nominees this year, they were a handful of them that, you know, especially from everything everywhere, like the best supporting actor, that won. He really hadn't been working in like 20 years, so he might want to cash in on these free trips. Yeah, he's going to be the only one. Yeah, Jimmy Kimmeling going. And he certainly ain't going to get $10,000 with the boat dogs. And then you go and then it's like, hi, we're so happy to have you at this resort.

This is Sheila. She's just going to be following around the whole time taking photos. Yeah. We just need some spawn con. Have you heard about the Tiger Woods thing? No. This is pretty juicy. So Tiger Woods has this girlfriend, okay? That he's had for quite a while. Okay. And she was, but they weren't married and she was living in his house. And so one day, living in his like $30 million mansion in Florida, okay?

And he wanted to break up with her. We didn't know what to do. And so he said, yeah, we'll like go on a trip or whatever. So he was gone and his people came and said, pack your bags, girl. You're gonna meet Tiger on a great trip. And then she packs the bags and, she on the car and then the handler dropped her off

and said, by the way, he's broken up with you. Oh, sad. And you're out. And she's like, oh, no, I'm not. Okay. She has signed an NDA with him since, with him in 2017, but she's trying to get out of it. Okay.

Can I please? Yes, please. To anyone listening. If you're in a relationship with anyone who's high level and they ask you to sign an NDA, I advise you to rip it up and tell them to go fuck themselves. Do not sign that piece of paper. You were asked to sign an NDA at one time I'm guessing? Yes.

And did you sign it? No. Good for you. My voice is all I have. I got a little baby's take care of. I got a little baby to take care of. I don't want to see that in the morning. So you know because now she's trying to say I want to get this NDA you know she's not happy because this is what was so weird. She said that they made a deal that she could live there even after they broke up for like five years.

So she's doing for what the rent would be to live in a $30 million mansion for five years. I mean, she's never going to win. I'm sorry. But I think there's something she's shown. No, she's gone something signed. Right. Or when you are someone that you're with someone like that and you're not getting married and you're not and you don't have a baby with them. So you really don't have something to you really do need to be like. You know what I'd like for my birthday in apartment building in my name. So if this doesn't work out. Right. I've got something for the amount of time that I put into our relationship versus a career. Absolutely.

If I'm your companion and what, but you don't want to marry me, you don't want to have kids with me fine, but let me have something that, and then the, but I just think there's something so interesting about tricking someone like out of your house, whether it's like a weird roommate or a guest

that stayed too long, and you're just like, no, no, no. Like, you're going on a fabulous trip. You're gonna meet you there. And then like, I'll follow you down. I just forgot to feed the dog, lock the door. Wait.

There's something so scary about someone who's, like, I've always been obsessed with like, people that are like squatters and they like stay at your house and then they're just not gonna leave. Like, there was a whole documentary about it, like people that move in and you and then they're just like, well, I'm not leaving and then they make your life so much hell that you like have to leave. Um, hello, everyone wants to talk about this like house that I used to live in and how fabulous it was. It was not. It was low down. I was very grateful. But it definitely, like if I had the choice, I would never want to live there.

It was like kind of a shit hole. And next door there was a house that was for sale. They were hoarders. They ended up being put in a home. They cleaned it out. Squatters were there. Months on end, called the police. They could not get rid of them. They're like there's nothing we can do. Literally, and I was ready to pop. I had like a brand new baby. These people were doing shady shit in the garage. They'd have you hauled. Come on.

At like a place. Yes, at three in the morning with like motor cycles that they put into the garage and then lock the garage. Yeah. And we called the police. They're like, there's literally nothing we can do. Unless the owner comes and says they're not allowed to be here. I'm like, the owners are in an old folks home.

They don't even know where they are. Like, I'm ready to have a baby and I don't know what sketchy stuff is going on next door. So like, I wasn't, I was like, you don't need to wake up to this in the morning. I wanna see this in the morning. I wanna see this at birth. I got a little baby to take care.

I'm just gonna keep saying that over anything. Anyway, it was crazy. Miami, we're gonna end on Miami. Of course, this was all about seeing Lisa's finding out that her husband, the plastic surgeon, was living a double life with his mistress. Kind of right in front of her eyes too, the hot tub story. Talking a little too close.

She brings that up in the reunion, yeah. That she was like, what's going on over here? That was a little, that was a little Tom and Raquel. That was, I mean, it, and then, and, but he was, he's trying to get her kicked out of the house. And she's like, nope, I'm not going anywhere. No. Good. I'm glad. Yeah. I love. You should have tricked her on a fun trip. You should have said, I'm going to take you on a fun trip and then get her out of the house. Of course, you couldn't do that. Because they're two kids. But like, yeah, she, it's, this show is really good. The Miami show.

It's very good. And anyone who's not watching it is missing out. There's so many people on my team. There's a lot of you. You're not on tonight. On Thursday that we can watch. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, because there's a lot of my. Yeah, Thursday, yeah. Yes. Oh my gosh, how many fun things to look forward to. Girl, tell everybody you've got Lala baby. Give them Lala baby clothing line. You have, give them Lala makeup. Did you sell out of the Bambi-eyed bitch palette?

Yes, thank God. I thought I was gonna, obviously I would never burn them. I would have donated them, but I just liked the wording better of saying thank God that we sold out. I thought I was gonna have to burn the rest rather than like, I thought we were gonna have to donate the rest to charity because I didn't see misdavage. Kindhearted, but not a savage. I would have donated the rest, but thank God we sold out.

Okay, what else? You got the sweatshirt, send it to Darryl. Yep, you got us a pair, a couple sweatshirts, I'm excited to take a photo in. Send it to Darryl. You can get merch on shoplala-cand-dot.com, beauty and skin at givethemlala.com. If you have little ones, give themlalababy.com. You have your show, your podcast. Yep, give themlala wherever you get your podcast,

new episode every Wednesday. And of course, this is all real. This was not done. But the producers didn't do this according to Teddy Melling camp. Lisa Vanderpump did not pay Rock-Kellen your opinion to have an affair with Tom Sandeball. I was like, what I first saw that headline about Teddy. I'm like she's basically

accusing Lisa Vanderpump of sex trafficking. Basically. But when things that she set this whole thing up, she set it, but then when I listened, which is why you need to listen people. You have to. When you see a headline from a podcast, give it a listen. And, Keti, it was a throwaway lie.

She's like, who knows? Lisa Vanderpump, you know, like, she was not being serious. No, I know, they love to go on to those conversations. They're not reading, you know, the news. Like, so just like, you know, but I thought that was interesting. But no, everyone that thinks that this is done. I mean, I know from it's not.

It's all happened. You can't make it so dark. Yeah. It's so dark. It keeps me real. Yeah. It's so dark. It keeps me up at night. It's very triggering. Like I just think everyone is so evil until they prove to me that they're not. Yeah.

And so you guys continue to watch. We've got a bunch more episodes left. You guys still from the reunion. Next watch it in real life. Watch it on the show from seven months back. It's juicy. Oh, it's a juicy skill. Love you, girl. Love you, babe. Well, everybody, I know you loved when I had Dr. Drew on Tuesday. And we talked for so much more. And you're going to get it if you're part of Patreon.

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