Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Lindsay Lohan’s secrets and Britney Spears’ memoir With Perez Hilton

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

Perez Hilton and Chris Booker are in the studio with me today. We talk about how Perez is the king of the bloggers. When is Britney Spears’s book going to come out? We touch on the Tori Spelling and Dean McDermott drama. We both think Kim Kardashian is the next Elizabeth Taylor. Real Housewives of Dubai is still dull. JLo’s mom beat the shit out of her. Jennifer Aniston needs to leave TikTok ads to the influencers. Perez shares the worst idea I have ever heard while never giving a before-heard scoop on Lindsay Lohan and more. Enjoy! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts to get exclusive Extra Juicy episodes every Friday and get all episodes of Juicy Scoop, ad-free Or get access to Extra Juicy on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You'll hear all about the fun things I'm doing this summer that I can't say right now, and it's gonna get real juicy. And right now for a classic person who has always brought the Hollywood juice, please welcome Perez Hilton. Hello and welcome to juicy scoop. We are gonna get into it.

I have the world famous Perez Hilton, his co-host and partner Chris Booker. You guys have an amazing podcast, an amazing website. Of course I followed you forever. Welcome back. Thank you. I'm a little nervous. Why? Because this is the first interview that he and I have ever done together. Sitting in person. No, together. I mean he's interviewed me before. Oh, okay. This is the first time we've ever done together. Sitting in person. No, together. I mean, he's interviewed me before, but this is the first time we've ever done one as a unit. Right.

He's fearful. He thinks I'm just gonna be a big dick, and I'm just gonna shut everybody down. I'm like insecure, right? So he'll feel the need to put on a show. Whereas, I'm crazy. You're a constant show. I don't have to bring on the crazy.

You're a constant show. I don't have to put on the show. I am constant show. I don't have to put on the show. I am the show. You don't have to put on the show either. So just do you. What show am I gonna post to you? I'm gonna be me. All right.

Let's get into it. Let's do it. You are the king of the bloggers. Yes. Your Instagram, you post so much with so many stories and links. It's exhausting. I mean, you really, you know, and then of course, you, then I guess, pick the best parts for

your podcast, but like, where do you get all your information? I mean, recently, not this story, but another story up right now. It's just about Tory spelling, and we'll get into that in a minute. But go ahead. But, DMs is a great way, but I'm not like an anonymous blind item. I'm sorry. I was able to see, wow, this person said that Tori Spellings' husband just publicly shared

the news that their 15-year-old is trans. Right, I did that story on that. But there was video with it. So if it would have just been hearsay. Exactly. I wouldn't have posted that. I know Tori, so I could have reached out to her and said, hey, I heard this happen in public.

Is this true? I don't hate the blind item sites. I don't even have that. I don't love them either. I totally, I just talk about it lot because like I think it's fun I like it. I think it's interesting a lot of my people really follow it It's just gonna take it all with a grain of salt. It's probably about one third it ends up being true Yeah, but the thing that gets me is just that like anybody can say

You know I saw Heather McDonald yelling at her son at Target saying, you know, I'm not paying for your college next year. But I should send a fake item in about me. We said, we thought of that. We thought of that. I don't think they've ever mentioned me like the Du Mois site. But then it's like, you got to do one that will get a little traction. And then you like, do you really want to want to, but the thing is to say,

and you put something out there about yourself, that's juicy enough to get traction. And then when you're like, surprise, I did it myself. The story's three days old, and then no one does the retraction or everything. And now for the rest of your life, they thought that you did this awful thing. We're living in such a rapidly changing time and I don't want to attribute it all to Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, but that has caused a seismic shift, not just in

celebrity world and news, but in the mainstream world as well. And the people that operate that Dumasite have been outed so we know their identities now. I hope it doesn't happen. I honestly wish the best for people, but it would not shock me if sometime in the near future, somebody sues them because now they know who to sue. For a defamation, I have a feeling post Johnny Depp there's gonna be so many defamation lawsuits like Britney

Spears father. I'm sure privately he's already threatening to sue her for defamation for the things that she will write about in her upcoming memoir. I think this book, do you think the books that we're going to get done? Yes. If you pay her $15 million, well well are you going over to type it? Do you think she's gonna write it herself? No, I remember myself.

There is a lot of psychotherapy. I remember myself. No, I know, but I'm saying, could you think someone can get her to stop spinning and then get some down on the couch and get some short yes. This is exclusive, I can't believe I've never shared this before, I'm such a dork.

Mark it down. I know. I should have done it on my podcast, but you're getting the exclusive. Thank you. Because it made my brain think of it. I do think the Britney Spears memoir will come out. I forget the name of the publishing company,

but one of these big New York publishers offered Lindsey Lohan a lot of money. They gave her actually three, four years ago, within the not so distant past, not super recently, but a few years ago, they offered her, I think a million plus. I forget the exact amount. I heard from a source in publishing because I know a lot of people. She failed to meet all her deadlines. The book never came out.

I don't know how that got resolved if she had to give them the money back or what, or maybe it will eventually come out. But yeah, there was supposed to be a Lindsay Lohan memoir that never materialized. I know people who have also been hired to help a celebrity do it. And sometimes it hasn't come out because they do the whole book. And then they're like, well, actually, we decided this isn't good for her brand or whatever. But you know, it doesn't really matter.

You got paid as the ghost writer. But is anyone overseeing Britney? That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know if anyone is going to leave the gym to make sure that the writer comes and has her sit down and tell a couple stories before she- I don't think that there's a deadline

that's super urgent, like it has to be out later this year. So, if you can- I don't know, like reading all the Instagrams and stuff. I'm just saying, like, of course, the book comes out, I'm gonna be the first one to read it, okay. I will buy it and read it.

All these audio versions. I will do I can listen to the car. Yeah, the clips of the juicy parts, but like You know how like people will write their memoirs and yeah, I'm a big read a lot of people's memoirs And sometimes I'm like all right This juicy this person was a heroin addict sold their body was on one day time Whatever but then what no, but I'm saying other people and I'm like, all right, this is juicy, this person was a heroin addict, sold their body, was on one day in time, whatever. I mean, there's been so much with Brittany. But then what, no, but I'm saying other people, and I'm reading this, and they tell these elaborate stories

of what happened when they're on a four day binge, and they done it, and I'm like, okay, wait a minute. You're on a four day heroin binge. How do you even know what happened? Like how I'm just saying, I'm now some heroin addicts who's in juicy scupper's gonna be, I remember everything, okay, I'm just saying. I thankfully don't know.

And I'm not saying that Brittany is a heroin actor or something, but I'm saying like, is she in a place to like really remember every little everything that went on to really explain and tell it? I hope so, I'm gonna hear all hope so or is it going to remember it accurately that's what i'm saying do you rewrite history yes but you can't i mean if you're a publisher and you take on being the publisher everything has to be fact checked if you're going to include another person

if not they won't release it yes that's why i don't think it will ever come out for those thirteen years that she was in the conservatory, conservatorship, we don't know what happened. We know what happened when the ambulance came to her house. We know what happened when she took the umbrella and shaved her head. We know what happened in the last two years. We know.

But so it will be her account of like living in Vegas, the dad being like the her saying, the brother didn't let me have a jack and cook after the show. Nobody let me get a massage. Like we'll get that I guess. I do think that a lot obviously not everything that happened during her father's tyrannical reign we will know or has been known but I think a lot of the things that happens to her or the operating rules of how Brittany is supposed to go day to day,

a lot of that was written down, a lot of that was submitted to the court, understandably sealed and private information. So there's like no worries, yeah, that's good. If Brittany wanted to, she could petition the court, I want to unseal these records. I want to make these private records public. That would be good.

Then she could do that and also include that in her book that they would be, you know, that checked it by the public court system. Yeah, that's a good idea. Like when they sent her allegedly against her will, not that long ago to that one mental health place that she said she was forced to do therapy for like, I forget, 12 hours a day or something like that, and she hated it, and she's been through a lot. Yes.

But I think she's happy now. She's at least happy-ish. As happy as she can be considering everything that happened to her. Yes. No, I mean, I'm glad she got buried, and what did you think of the prenup? We talked about this on our podcast, you know, the prenup news was very clever spin.

It was like, hey, don't worry about me. I'm not taking any money from her. What I said was from what I read, the prenup to be, everything she had before the wedding, that's what I told her. That's what I told her, what I read the pre-nup to be, everything she had before the wedding, is it normal? That's what I told her. Which is normal. Yes.

If you're just a cute couple, and you're just young, and you own the house for a million dollars, and you get married, and you're like, this house is mine, it's paid off, and then anything we make together, you get half of it. Exactly. Except being a famous person, especially her

that has a catalog of music, like if she writes this book, why should he get half? If she, you know, does a Christmas special over best songs, why should he get half? I'm saying it's not like they're building a bagel shop together. Right. You know what I mean?

It's a little different. He doesn't, he thinks that building a bigel shop together. Right. You know what I mean? It's a little different. He doesn't, he thinks that a prenup can trump anything. Sure. I don't know if that's why you're not a lawyer. I have it either. But that's why you have a prenup. So you put together everything that she just laid out.

Well, I made this music before. Why would you be making publishing on this music in 10 years? And it might be in there. It's just business. We don in there. It's just business. It's just business. And it'll all be diced out. But hashed out. If you pay attention to her fiance and I do,

he is thirsty for money, which I view as a good thing. Like he's hungry to work. So he'll do brand deals. He was streaming on this online app that I did for a bit as well because they were paying him. I'm going to mention them because who cares. No, he did. Yeah, he's doing all these things in addition to acting.

He'll take money this way that way and the other. It shows me that he needs money or wants it because it's not relying on the money. Exactly. He's not mo. Exactly. Yeah. No, I think he's not mooching. Yeah. I mean, he's only getting it because he's with Brittany. But he's not asking her to, you know, if he wants to go do something or the other, he's

not having that get into her bed. Right. What you're saying is he wants his own money. He's not in her wallet. Yeah. But I mean, just like a pretty girl okay that marries a let's say successful sport star she starts getting followers she becomes an influencer now she has brand deals

you know did it help that she married and was in the you know at super bowl and you know that some other powerful people i feel that the same for him is a good looking guy he's can act he's done enough stuff he could have been an answer on his own because all these fitness influencers in los angeles have large followings and make their money and he was a trainer before he was mister britain right and now of course he has a lot of followers because she's tagged him and what not so you know like I don't think I night but I think that's good that he's is are doing those things that is

taking these parts and he wants to make a name for himself has been with her longer than any other relationship yeah longer than her husband and father of her children Kevin Fedderline longer than Justin Timberlake they've been together almost six years. And then people are like, why does he let her roll around in the sand and naked and wear the same sort of? Because it makes her happy. But exactly, I'm like, well, you guys all wanted not to make a throw. Yeah.

This is her thing. Like, he's smart enough to know, I'm not gonna be the guy that says, you know what, these brown pumps need to go. Although I do think about that, and it worries me, I'm like, I wonder if he's constantly on eggshells, like afraid to be somebody to tell the truth. If she needs to hear no sometimes,

he doesn't tell her no, because that might piss Brittany off, and then he'll be cut out. Well, someone asked me, they said, Heather, please figure out why she didn't have better hair and makeup on her wedding. I thought she looked good. She looked fine. I couldn't see any visible extensions.

Okay, but I think it's exactly this. The few people around her, they're like, hey, do you want me to bring in a makeup artist or hair person? And she's like, no, I'm good. No, no, no. Okay. She had one of the best makeup artists, Charlotte Tilbury. I'll tell you the real-

I am the real- She just used the products. Oh, but I'll tell you the real reason. I thought it was actually Charlotte Tilbury that did Britney's makeup, but I could be wrong. Tho and we'll correct this. I'm sure. From what I understand, those close to her is that for a myriad of reasons, she, and I'm not going to diagnose her with anything, but she just can't sit still for long periods of time.

And if you want movie star hair and makeup, that takes hours. And Brittany just not choose to sit for that long. That's what I totally think. That's exactly, that makes a lot of sense. Okay, so are is Tory in Dean divorcing or what? Well, I read they're not going to divorce anytime soon because it's expensive, lawyer fees and then what she might have to pay him so they're happy with the status quo for the time being. I'm just not really being a couple but staying married which I can totally understand. Yeah. And actually he recently is still doing some acting but I think he's had like a normal

job too. I think he opened a boxing gym. Okay. And he's involved in that. In Canada or here. In California. Oh, okay. In the valley somewhere.

Diversify. You got to do it. Yeah. And so your thing was that she snubbed him because she hung out with Lance and Michael Lance bass she snubbed him publicly but we live in such a performative world that have Tories spelling wishes gay dad Lance bass a happy father's day and not her baby daddy and husbands and people read into that and she wants us to talk about it.

I think she wants us to talk about it. I like her. I've met her. I like her too. And I've been like, what's the deal? And she's just like, you know, like, so I kind of feel. Yeah, so I feel like, no, I don't think they're like madly in love. I think they're a couple that have been together 15 years, but I think they're kind of like,

whatever. You like, like that one day that you remember the paparazzi caught her and she's like on the phone yelling and she had this legal pad and like written on it was like, child support. Yeah. I was like, come on, Torrey, that was so set up. Right.

I love you, girl. I don't blame it. Like the Spencer and Heidi moment. That was so 2006, like so set up. I was like come on do you have a theory as to why Her late father Aaron spelling truly left her nearly nothing of his Hundred plus million dollar empire my theory was that Someday at some whatever age 45

50 he would acquiesce to everything and say you could finally have the money. I never believed he was going to completely cut her out for her whole life. But he has. He seemingly has. Like he had such disdain for her and I just do not know. He must have. No, no, no. This is what happened.

I think this is what happened. I think this is what happened. I think this is what happened. I think this is what happened. Listen, if I, listen, if I died, okay, my husband who's the father of my kids, he gets everything until he dies. My kids don't get something.

But you and I don't have spelling accounts. Thank you, and I was just gonna say, this is a different kind of money though. I know, but her mom, Candy, has been the mom. She's candy has been the mom she's not the second wife she's not the stepmother so in doing all this stuff the mother was always there and i think she was he should have known

right kind of a woman candy spell i don't think he did i think it was madly and i think he acquiesce to her decorating the house doing all these things now she she she was she was a younger wife for, but she is the mother of both the kids. If you, I just think it was, they did get a little bit, which to a normal person 20 years ago. I think the brother had got a lot more. Mm. I don't think so. I remember reading the books. No, he's like a life coach in Oregon.

Yeah. He's not. He should have just set up up like a yearly stipend for the books. No, he's like a life coach in Oregon. No, he's not. He should have just set up like a yearly stipend for the kids. Like every year you each get $300,000 or whatever it is. Well, I was talking to someone and we'll say it's day, but he's, you know, has a lot of money and he's like a media person. I have enough to scoop for you, but you go ahead. A media person. And we were kind of talking about this and his his wife is the mother of his three kids and his only wife. And he said, Oh hell no, I have a separate thing for all my kids.

I'm not going to die let her marry someone else. And not and I was like like smart. To me being just old fashioned married lady. I like I didn't really think that like, you know, but you know, I think more people are thinking that like do I want the stepdad you know, I think more people are thinking that like, do I want the stepdad or the step children for my, the money that I left for my kids to have my wife be in charge of it, take care of those kids or that wedding comes first. And so, people need to think more about not just leaving it all to the living spouse.

That's why I will never marry unless I I marry up, somebody with more money. Yes, because you have three kids. Yes. So here's the scoop. I know Tori, I know Dean, I know a ton of their friends. So somebody in spelling land told me that contrary to what candy spelling has put out there, that candy does not pay for the private schooling of her grandchildren. So, clearly somebody's lying.

They go to public school now, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah, she puts them in hidden hills because the schools are kind of good. She's tried different stuff for them. You know, like any parent, not every school works for every child. She's got five kids. But they have had moments where they've gotten so much money. They have had moments where they've gotten together and had fun and all this. But she's not suffering you guys. She's in Kitten Hills. The kids are fine. So

she does a lot of work. She had right. The house is probably paid. She's got a hot cast of her own. Like I'm saying, like it's not, it would's probably paid she's got a hot cast of her own like I'm saying like it's not it would be Different if she worked at a dry cleaner and you'd be like my god candy's failing But like she's not a TJ max like ever heard Honestly isn't her story kind of the story that people want it to be when you're super wealthy like make your own thing Like you you were handed a show And you did well on it and you continued to be a star for the last 30 years.

Like she continued to stay relevant, continued to step. Like yeah, I don't think Candy would ever let them like literally be homeless but it's like Candy like, you know, I've read that Candy thinks that she does overspend and she does, you know, have maybe a, so maybe look candy loves Tory they have had their moments where they do get together they do enjoy each other it but it is it is a weird thing thankfully my mom and I don't have that kind of relationship okay let's move on okay how do you feel about the new hulu show, show Kardashians? This is talk about Kardashians for a minute. Everything about it. What do you look at

them? I'll start with Kim. I don't want to do all the talking. I was talking. You can do all the talking. You can do all the talking. The nonverbal cue to speak. Okay, let's just talk about Kim. Let's talk about Kim. I think it's so interesting, famous people like Madonna and change their look. And for 10 years, she was very town, war braids, had a big ass. Now she's 30 pounds thinner, got rid of her ass, has a strong hair.

Clown hair. Clown hair for ass too. Yes, and the blonde hair both are very thin. She looks like Christine Quinn. She's dressing like Quistarine Quinn for selling sunset she's with her boyfriend you know Pete Davidson so they match now they have the blonde hair they're skinny and they match and I just think that's interesting like well okay now that's done we're done with the big asses I'm so glad I never had a big ass she I by always said, wait, hang on to something long enough.

It'll come back in style in my case. She probably puts, like, she, and in a way, she kind of is. It almost seems weird to say that she's on a Beyonce level, but she kind of is. If you remember, I think it was an ABC interview, like a decade or more ago, Beyonce gave us a peek at the warehouse where she stores all of her clothes and the archives.

And Kim has that too. She treats herself like Beyonce, so she's probably premeditated. All right, what's going to be my look? What am I going to do this year? Oh, I got to get rid of the butt. You know what, I've got gonna do this year? Oh, I gotta get rid of the butt. You know what, I've gotta do this because I wanna do that and I wanna start this trend and, you know, in 10 years, she's gonna become where Madonna is now,

which is so desperate. No, I hope not. So desperate. And I say that with love, because I worship Madonna. She's my number one artist of all time. See, I think in 10 years, North will be 18 or 19. And I think she'll be like Chris and a barbinger. Yeah, she'll.

No. OK. Because she's a lot like me. You're right, you're right. I don't know. Kim is a lot like me and that we love the fame game. OK. We love being famous or in my case infamous. Yeah.

And not everybody's cut out for it. She clearly is, some of her sisters aren't actually Kylie. Kendall, I never thought would be on the new Hulu show that much. But Kylie isn't even on it that much compared to her sisters. Yeah. Because she doesn't love the fame game as much as Kim does. And she doesn't have to. She has to.

Yes, she's a billionaire. And she was literally born into it. Exactly. But Kim loves it. That's why she's actually, she is very smart. She puts thought into everything, right? She's like, okay, I'm kind of done with my naked selfie phase.

Yes. But in 10 years, the naked selfie is going to come back when she's in her face. Like Madonna. Yes, that's what I'm gonna have done with my naked selfie phase. Yes. But in 10 years, the naked selfie is gonna come back when she's in her face. Like Madonna. Yes, that's what I'm telling you. In 10 years time, she's gonna be what Madonna is today, like doing really cringy videos and trolling on purpose, knowing that what they're doing is dumb and stupid and dumb, but it's cheap, lazy

and effective because it'll get engagement at the end of the day that all they care about is the attention. Well, here's my angle on this. I'm fat. They're not that fascinating to me. I'm fascinated by people that are truly fascinated by them. Like these mundane, does she, does she, is her ass bigger or is it smaller?

I mean, I'm fascinated by some of them because like Chloe, for example, like the decisions that she makes, like I'm just trying to, I'm fascinated on a psychological level. Like why do you do what you do? Like what decision? Like dating the basketball player over and over?

I'm gonna keep screwing her over. That's just people out of touch with any semblance of reality. I mean, her options are basketball players, hip hop, famous people, other famous people. Actually, she's now doing the same thing over and over. Doesn't change me. What else is she gonna do now? Somebody that works in like investment, finance.

Oh my God, that's been my dream, but I didn't think it could ever happen. I would love for her to just to be with like a dude. Like within the Hollywood circle. Yeah. Connected finance person, but not a traveling basketball player. Exactly. Yeah.

Well, yeah, I mean, I, I mean, I think it's great. I really didn't watch the series. I feel, you know, have you watched in years? A little bit here and there, but I feel like we know everything, and I do report on it in the show. I think it's gonna be huge success. So I'm like, but I can understand why some people,

I'm like, look, it's the kind of thing that if I was like, laying around or something and it was on, I probably would watch all eight as I'm doing other things. Like I do watch for culture. So you watch for culture. Once I get into it, I do like it. I mean, I love their homes and their style and there are some fun stuff, but I also feel like there was no scoop we were going to get because we saw it all on the world.

Well, the same thing happened at the other show too. I do think they missed the opportunity, which they said they were going to fix, but they clearly didn't, of being way more timely. Like they're not beholden to cable. Like they could release an episode days after something happens, but they're not doing it that way. Why? Because they're lazy.

It's easier to do things far in advance and you know your schedule is going to be like and it requires less hours right and they did a lot of people the slew setter you know faking caught a lot of reenactments which they did the very first time it's unscripted show that a reality right when clowy got um arrested for her d. Right. When Chloe got arrested for her DUI, the first season, they reacted, they re-enacted the whole thing. So we knew that that was, you know, whatever. People, there are no- There's still themselves, they still get in arguments, and they still

have fun conversations just being free. So like, it is what it is. But they will be studied and probably are already in college courses. Yeah. The rise and dominance of the Kardashians. Well, it's a social media. I'm always like, they're, you know, anybody that's making money off of social media today has to think them. But it's not, they are the first to start that. Yeah, it's not even because of social media today has has to think them but it's not they were the first to start that

yeah it's not even because of social media i think all right i'll give you my my it's all boils down to Kanye really briefly like if it were not for Kanye they would not be who they are today did i say this when i was on your show last time oh yeah i don't buy this wrap already oh it is it goes right before no it's fathered no no and it's picking into rich was one of the shite guys to think about where they were when came started dating Kanye they were at their lowest low well they know it was right after him got married to chris humphries and that lasted a few months the ratings weren't huge

i would have been surprised if it didn't last that much longer on e but Kanye not just elevated Kim Kardashian. He elevated her entire family. She was not an A-lister in 2011. The fashion houses wouldn't lend her clothes. She wouldn't get invited to all of the runway shows. It could be fine.

It would have never been to the Met Gala or on the cover of Vogue magazine. Kanye made Kim an A-lister and turned her career trajectory in that of her entire family around and way up. But can't you just say that's the sign of the times where people just don't want to participate in this anymore. There's a, there's a section of faction of people that just say, I don't want that, it's gross. I don't want to be famous.

I just want to be an actor. I just think it's a different day. They're willing participants. You could still be an old school a-lister without participating. For example, I love music. Look at Duolipa. I would say she's an a-lister. She doesn't have to play the game.

She's just releasing hit after hit after hit and she's an a-lister. And, you know, I don't even know what I was getting at. Well, I knew you wanted to say a lot about that. I knew you wanted to say a lot about that. I knew you wanted to say a lot about that. I knew you wanted to say a lot about that. I knew you wanted to say a lot about that.

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Well, she probably has embryos frozen, which is Kanye. She probably has both. If she has both. But when you have enough money, you can do it all. I think she's probably smart enough to have done both. Yes. So, but I think she also won't be smart enough to say, I want to get married and I want to have this

another wedding and this love affair, but I'm done having kids. So I wouldn't be. She's not done. she had so many siblings. If you have to bet, okay. She won't have more than two. I say she has two kids. I think she's more likely to get married no kids

and you're saying married and kids. Married and twins, so that it's not like spaced out. Mark this prediction, we will see who wins. All right. Okay, are you watching Real Housewives of Dubai? Not at all. How do you, what's your scoop on Dubai and chicks going there to do disgusting things for money?

It's bizarre to me because they could end up in jail. Who could end up in jail? The people on the show. Yeah, because they're very, from my understanding, like I think the tourists are allowed to drink, but people from Dubai that are natives can't have alcohol. Okay, so wait, you're understanding. Like, and if I'm gay, I can't really be gay in Dubai.

Like, that's not cool. These people are protected. Yes, I get that, but. So, you've crossed the wrong person or the wrong line and do buy has an image problem and they know that there so they have an image problem and that female basketball players still in prison there for weed different like five minutes to buy his trying to be something different do buy his yet that they're still under the Muslim law. Right.

Well, what I've watched the show and what Caroline Stansbury says who is a British. She's British. I know that. Yeah. She was on a different reality show. She was walking through Atlantis in a crop top and she said a lot of people asked me about, you know, she's like, no, you can wear whatever you want, but it's about respect. So you might want to be more respectful in your clothing, but you can, as of someone

who's just living there as an expat, you can. So I'm just saying, I don't know. I do love reality stars that bring it and professional reality stars you know like that chick that you just mention caroline she's done another show before so she knows the job you know the job is do whatever it takes to not be boring oh my gosh there's this great scene with she and clips can be watched and i think it's i think that they could first of

all it's it's a little hard because like, okay, there's Caroline, but then there's these two black girls and they look very similar and then the two Persian girls look very similar. I say Persian because I don't, I'm one's Lebanese one. I don't know. But like the girls on the end, yeah, the diversity is good, but you're learning about all these new people and I'm just saying it's like, so I can't remember who Caroline had the conversation with. It was one of the middle Eastern girls, but she has a conversation with her. And it was like, they're sitting there.

And she's like, well, when I first met you, one girl goes, you know, Caroline, I didn't think you liked me when you first met me. And she's like, well, I didn't, it's Caroline, I didn't think you liked me when you first met me. And she's like, well, it's not that I didn't like you. It's just I don't like small talk. So therefore, I just saw you as someone at parties who I didn't have small talk with. And then she's like, oh, well, our mutual friends thought that we would really be friendly and really get along, but when I saw you-

This is so painful. When I saw you, Caroline, a lot of pee, you know, this- and then Caroline goes, well, I just always thought you were boring, just a lot of people think I'm boring because those people don't receive my attention. So I was like, oh my god, I was like, who was trying to dislike, we're so different. Yes, we're so different, but we could get along, but it's not that I'm a bitch. It's just that I don't partake in people that are,

like it was so. Like that kind of conversation I hate because it's story boarded. Like you're gonna go there and you're gonna have a conversation about this. Then you have the unscripted conversation. How you never liked each other. Yeah.

Yeah. But the point was, they were both like, I still don't like you. Like, they clearly still don't like each other and now they're on this fucking show. You know who I do like? I would love to see doing American reality TV. One of the best reality TV stars of all time is this

British personality. Her name is Gemma Collins. Have you heard of her? I feel like it's a little familiar, but I don't know where. Oh my God, she's brilliant. You all spend, spend, after you're done watching and listening, make a mental note, spend five to ten minutes, just Google or search on across social media, Gemma Collins. She's just like non-stop memes. Like she's so funny, naturally funny, and just got the, she's reality TV gold. I would love, I will manifest that for her.

All right. And I got to manifest me doing more reality television too. Do you really even have time? I would make time. All right. Television is what I need to be doing uh... what is your thoughts on jaylo her half-time show her uh... you did a jaylo sister

oh i did a test i test pilot i did a i tested for a talk show pilot with the sister way back when this was what about dating it was out here i would have been like 17 years ago I wrote I do I was dating her during the I do recall that and Jala was the he was gonna be a younger Hipper like I was the Walker viewer yeah yes and they like really liked me because I was like married with a kid and

God I remember like show business didn God, I remember like- But show biz, it just didn't happen. I remember they're like, asking me these questions, which I didn't really realize what they're looking for. And they're like, how do you feel about Arnold Schwarzenegger running for governor? And at the time, I was like, well, if he can keep the entertainment industry here and not have it go to Atlanta, like,

maybe it'll be profitable for the state. What were they trying to get at? What were they trying to like see if i was a republican i think and i just was like oh and then there that was probably that check it you know i don't know i i i would have pushed i would have been like i think it's right like i didn't know what i was i had a job anyway it never went i didn't get it but also didn't go past the the pilot

stage but um what did you think about when she said how the mom beat the shit out of them? Well, as a Latino, myself, that's really common. Yeah, I think I had to ship it out to my parents. I think all of us had my grandparents. And if you grew up in the 70s or early 80s,

and if you didn't take a shot from your parents, at least once a week, they were doing their job. It's just a different day. It's a different day and also culturally. Yeah. Yeah, it can be that too. La Changla, la Changla, the woman's sandal or sometimes if I got, if I was real bad, I got my dad's belt.

Yeah. I got the belt. Oh, my dad had a paddle collection. He used to make us pick the paddle he was going to hit his way. Is that crazy? I think I'm title. I think touching my child. I think not. You can't. I don't have kids, but I wonder how I would. Everyone says I think when you have the knowledge, once now we know it's not good.

It's not good. You know, we still can strive from it. But it's not. Yeah. I mean enough studies have been known. I mean, it's cave venues to also pull their wives by their hair. Like you evolve, like, I use that line all the time. We are only a couple people away from dragging women out of caves by their hair. How much change can you expect everyone to have? We are animals. That's what we are.

I went to an all-boy Jesuit school in Miami. Yes. And they had a paddle there at my school. Yes. Wow. Haven't you ever been hit by your principal? Like, you never went to the principal's office and taken a whack. I don't think that ever happened to me. Oh my God.

And I don't think it happened regularly, but yeah. Regular. I feel like I went to the Catholic school right here and definitely that was not happening when I was there anymore. Now my friends, my brother, my brother, my brother's been like 10 years older, they had some stories like that, but by the time I was there,

Miami's a different story. Absolutely not, not a lot. I grew up in West Virginia, I'm sure they still beat people there. Yeah. I love Jennifer Lopez though. I, Is this her last engagement?

No, but who cares? No, like math. I think the people who hate on her, there's no reason. I don't think there's many people who hate on her. Oh, she's gonna get married again or whatever. Who cares? I love it.

It would be a dream for me to stop dating somebody. And then a week later, date somebody new that I'm so into. it would be a dream for me to stop dating somebody. And then a week later, date somebody new that I'm so into. That'd be great. I would fucking dive into somebody new. I would jump, I would run so hard into that. I go back and forth with this prediction. What prediction?

I've had this prediction come in and out of my head and sometimes I'm like, I totally could see it happen then I'm like a crazy Heather But with with Kim's eight marriages like see happening one will be a brief Rekindling with Kanye. I don't know I go back Of course I go back but I could almost see it like a different prediction It's different little and then like a different prediction. I don't think she'll get back together with Kanye, but I do think at one point, Kim,

whether it be real or just for attention or a combination of both, will date and maybe even marry another woman or a trans man. Dun dun dun. That, I say no. That I say no. I don't know. Either one.

But it's all good. Um, Jen Aniston pissed me off the other day. Oh, she did. What did she do? Well, she did this interview and this is always bothers me. What interview was it? It was like, I saw her like being interviewed by someone. I can't remember.

And she's like, you know, these people are famous for nothing. And they've really diluted, you know, what us actors have done in entertainment. There's so many more people that can be successful. There's so many more streaming things. And you know, these TikTokers that are suddenly famous are these YouTubers that I'm, this may be crazy because I'm like, you are such a hypocrite. You know, you did a show with all white people, when all white people could have a job on the same show, you know, and that's it

and nobody else could be on it, whatever. And that's not her fault. And I like her and she's successful. But what I don't like about someone like this is like, you're just as thirsty as the rest of us. You're pimping your own products, you're doing your nails, you're doing TikToks, you're doing Instagram. She has somebody to do it for.

No, but I'm saying like for so long, these people are like, because she wants money. I won't be on Instagram. And it's like, okay, I guess I eventually have to do it. And the thing is that. Even Johnny Depp is on Instagram and TikTok. Right.

And the thing is when she does it, she does what influencers have to, like, about washing her face. They do the exact same video. They don't even do it different. They do the videos that people are used to seeing on that platform, which they did not invent. And all I'm saying is that I think it's the same reason

when everybody got a podcast. I'm like, can we have one fucking thing? Like, you know what? It's not even just about age because I, yesterday actually, yesterday watched an interview with Selena Gomez. She was doing that actor's round table, so it was her and other people. And she said, yep, I'm not on Instagram.

Instagram called me. I'm so much happier when I'm not on social media. I'm like, listen, I think now that I'm so much happier when I'm not on social media. I'm like listen I think now that I'm almost his age. I have a lot more understanding about life and I just I have more compassion for everybody You know everybody just want to put it but also I want to say but I love that I want to say Selena Gomez It's a luxury not to have to be on social media. No way could you and I survive without being on social media posting three times a day, writing back people.

It's a whole nother job that is not going away that we have to be part of. So if you are at Selena Gomez level or even like adjusting beaver whatever and you all of a sudden say i'm done with it i don't want to be on anymore i'm not going to be on it or even a pate david said i don't need to be on it i just married the the queen of the so you're upset about her not respecting other people's hustle yeah that's what it is for you i'm just trying to get to the bottom of the like hypocritical and i just hate that when people say, you know, I'm better than you because I went on auditions and my dad happened to be on a soap

and I was able to get an agent. And I had 18 pilots before friends. So you were already in this tiny, tiny hole that they would constantly throw stuff at. I'm the first that went out for these pilots that was first round because I wasn't gonna, I wasn't gonna be in the final round unless I wrote it myself.

So I'm like, you had it already so fucking easy. And then you got in the show and we saw that you were talented, but just to get there, you had it so easy. So like to then back on people that are making, that are a star in Oklahoma being a TikTok, thank God they're, they're, they have this opportunity. And it's not just down to this tiny, tiny elite group of people.

You have to remember, she's been, and I'm not making excuses for her. I think it's lame. I think elitism, snobbery, it's hypocritical. It's, it serves nobody. She's not better than me in anything. Right. They're equals. I agree.

She's not better than anybody watching or listening right now. She might think she is. The thing is though that she's been an A plus lister right now for 30 plus years. Why are you she doing this stuff? Because you can never have enough money. And you like and you like the and you like being relevant and she's known for her hair. So she's pretty. She used to have this other company living proof. She left living proof something. Now that she's maybe she wasn't the full owner of it. Now they're doing the Kylie Jenner product where created all yourself, only 100%. And Courtney's got her own hair line. She's got 100%.

Hmm. Courtney does sprays for your house and all of that. So anyway. So they're product that you would like to release that you haven't yet. You know, I mean, people, we thought about stuff like that and like, yeah, if something came, but like I only have so much time. And like, it was funny because we were watching hacks.

You were watching hacks. You were watching hacks. I freaking love it, right? So, and my son is like, wait, what is this lady doing? I'm like, she's like me, but she's like 25 years older, maybe 20 years older than me, and she's like, and I go and she's just, you know, I'm talking about what's going on in season two.

And he's like, oh, so is this your dream mom? And I'm like, no, this is my dream. I'm sitting on the couch. I love what I do. You're home helping me. We're watching, like honestly, it's not that. And I kinda realize I didn't have that like crazy. I'm bitching, I won't turn anything down.

But I think there's people in my field that are like, I have to get that daytime talk show or I have to get that movie or that Oscar. I have to have $100 million in the bank or whatever their, their vision of like successes. And I'm just so. Well, you have a healthy response to it.

And I think most of the people that want those things, it usually comes from an unhealthy place or it comes from some sort of, they weren't getting some sort of attention in their life. And when you've come to that full reality of, this is great., let me just sit down for a second. I'm enjoying my life. Sure. Give me that deal where I can make a extra hundred million so I can put a wing on the house. You know, that would be fantastic, but just getting there, that's the goal. I'm very happy. But I'm just always, but I'm more shocked by a Jennifer Aniston that would say anything and would go ahead and promote something because I know how much syndication money there is.

She's rich beyond our imagination. That's what just blows my mind. This is small to me. Very few people are calling her out, but I will because I don't give a shit. I'm not gonna be the new host of elin i heard that she was asked to replace all of that's a good school told me that someone on my show tonight

we talked about the show yet uh... that she was up that she was up for it and she should have taken it no i'm glad she didn't because it would have flopped she doesn't have the personality for the way maybe that's too that's also true if you don't need the money you the hunger's not there and that's the other thing in hiring someone to be a talk show host. I remember this one executive told me, he's like, you don't want someone so rich or so famous because they're not going to fight for it.

And it is a hard job. You want to get them at the right level of their career where they can bring an audience, but they also will stay there for 10 years. And yeah. And Jennifer Hudson has a talk show that's gonna be premiering this song. I think that's a great idea. I don't know if she has the personality for it.

Well, I think they realized with the success of Kelly Clarkson. You know, I was just watching. Yeah, but Drew Barrymore is not, is barely struggling along. I don't think it's gonna last yet another season. The Drew Barrymore. Well, it's definitely got picked up for another season. Yes, but I think they're gonna be,

they're doing it differently. They're doing two half hour episodes. It's bizarre. They've turned the model on its head. So it's not an hour long show anymore. It's two half hour episodes. They also had to cut corners and trim costs and get rid of people. Anyways.

But with Kelly Clarkson, I think the reason they pursued Jennifer is the singing. How they worked for her. But singing, I think the singing is really nice. Like literally I was just walked through by the Kelly Clarkson show and she was just singing like some song from the weekend and I'm like, but she's just a great conversationist too.

And she's just the singing. She's so like, you know, relatable. It was a perfect fit for her. She was the perfect person they could have picked for daytime in this era. But I think Jennifer could do good too. But like the Tom Tamer Hall that didn't do well. Oh, wow.

Because she was, I'd people like all of this. I like her though. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think it's also weird with all the podcasts and stuff. I think people want to hear what they want to hear. And so it's a very specific audience that's still at home at two in the afternoon that are going to watch this show. And doesn't anybody even watch TV really? It's like Kelly

does well because the singing, the clips could do well on social media. Yes. You know, the singing is amazing. Here's a little something people may not know about me. I'm extremely cheap I knew that I'm extremely cheap, but sometimes you're very generous though. That's that's not very generous But also I'm a big impulse buyer With cheap things. Okay. I won't buy expensive things I I watch a lot of YouTube. That's what I watch that was watching a YouTube video and there was an ad just before the video about, do you feel tired? Caffeine is a lie.

It probably gives you energy, but it gives you anxiety. And this is like, I'm trying to cut back on caffeine. So, the thing they were trying to sell me, I'm like, that's too expensive. So then I went on Amazon and bought a cheap version of it. They were trying to sell me, which'm like, oh, that's too expensive. So then I went on Amazon and bought a cheap version of what they were trying to sell me, which, I don't know if you've heard about this, they now have a mushroom drink that's like coffee. Chachingo, they were gonna be a sponsor of our part.

I don't know what it is. I just noticed that I had it yesterday morning, not this morning, but yeah. Is it like a white mushroom or something? I don't know, a mushroom base, yeah. I just bought it, I haven't gotten it it's a mushroom base. I just bought it. I haven't gotten it yet, but I'm so excited. It's so great.

Is it? With coffee and a little creamer. We put it in your coffee. Well, you can make it different ways. You can do ice coffee as well. But the whole point is to not have the caffeine. No, I need the caffeine. Well, I know, but I want to try it because I want to cut back on coffee.

Anyways. Do you watch, are you watching Real Half as a Beverly Hills? I am not watching. I don't watch any television. What do you think? Because he's not a TV person. I know you know them because I went to your birthday party. Yeah, I know that. Years ago when you had a blue party, do you remember? My blue ball. Yes, and we all, and that was like the first video. But half of those ladies aren't even on the show anymore. Or more than you have.

Well, I remember Kyle was there. Kyle and Neil. I feel like she's my aunt too. I knew her before she was famous because she was. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. I have. I remember Kyle was there. Kyle, Kyle.

I feel like she's my aunt too. I knew her before she was famous because she is Paris and Nicky's aunt. We invited to Paris this wedding. No, were you? No. I know. I know.

What was I gonna say? You guys feel like you were invited a little bit by this? Not at all, not at all. I do. You do, right? I mean, I'm sure. She invited a bunch of influencers that she barely knew, and I've known that bitch for 15 years. I think that you, I mean, you named yourself after her.

I know. Um, but I've eclipsed her now. Really? No. I'm kidding. Do you like her husband? I don't know anything about him. I didn't watch that reality show.

Some people watch reality show and they are not feeling good about it. But I think that she's- I think opposite attract, you know? And it takes a certain kind of man to put up with and deal with Paris Hilton and everything that comes with her. Right, yeah. So I'm happy that she's going to have her babies soon. But I love the whole concept of housewives because it's contrary to traditional media, which is old is not good

Yeah, it's all about young and I love that these women in their 40s and 50s are TV stars, but I think I think society in general is Has embraced a snout a nostalgia so much when you look at like music and television shows, Stranger Things, when you look at the music that's really popular right now, it's older stuff, it's comfortable stuff. I'm ready to back them back. But I'm actually, I'm really shocked back to Paracelton, like why they wouldn't include you more in that sort of world because you are somewhat of a comfort.

All of these people, not these so much, but when you look at some of the actors that have been on it, they're comfortable. They're inviting. I'm on TV, honestly, I think, because I don't know, actually, I don't know. I don't know why. I think streamers would be more daring than cable.

They're a bunch of pussies, so they're holding to advertisers. You understand they're afraid of having me on because of my past. But you've given away the cow. I mean, you've done so much online, there's no mystery, there's no secret. You're rusty.

You have no idea. Oh, I have nine. Seven years of you. I can bring it. I can bring it. Oh my God, I just had such a little flashback of you. Yeah. When you were on posh spice, Victoria Beckins had a reality show.

It was like a limited one season series when she was coming to America. Yes, and she's like, I'm meeting this blogger who writes all his stuff out of a coffee shop. Yeah. And I think that was like the first time we saw you, was that your first thing? One of the first things, yeah.

I loved that because even though she was calling me out, sort of speak, I just am a big spice girls fan. So that was such a dream come true. I'm still a spice girls fan. I had the, I'm an idea person. Sometimes I wish I had all of the connections and all of the hundreds of millions of dollars. But you've had them before and you blew most of it

on these shitty ideas. So, this is a good idea. Here comes a shitty idea. No, this is a great idea. This is one of the best ideas. Buckleman. This is one of the best ideas I've ever had. Okay, all right.

So, I would say, and you would probably agree that Adele's career is not as hot as it was a few years ago. Her likability has taken a hit for many reasons. So I would think it would be smart for Adele to do something to turn those things around. I think she should commit to a six month world tour with the Spice Girls and she could take Victoria Beckham's place. That is brilliant. I knew it would be fun. Adele is a huge Spice Girls fan, so it would be one of her childhood dreams come true. Honestly, that is the worst idea ever.

No, that's brilliant. That's brilliant. As long as Adele wants to come back, not be dick whipped by her boyfriend and commit to what she has agreed to do at Caesar's Palace, she will be just fine. Thank you. I'm surprised that they haven't announced new dates yet. He wants everyone to get in front of everything, in front of every controversy,

it can be cured by doing this or that. I'm like you're a del, you're talented. I don't need to see behind the curtain as a matter of fact, I love Mystique. It's underrated. And also it's like I think that, you know, from what I heard of why she canceled it. Neither of you are gay men, obviously.

But, but she, you know, didn't like the way the show was or she felt like she didn't have all these, or they wanted special effects or she didn't need special effects. I'm like, you don't need anything. You need to come out and gorgeous gown with your perfect face. Well, that's the weird thing she could have done that.

And just seeing like literally, you don't need dancing cupcakes and the bag like story. But this is when you start to lose it at this level of celebrity, when you start to buy in all of the stuff, my favorite Adele show that I ever went to, she did the one here in LA the night before they were going to announce the tour.

There was no stage, nothing, there was a microphone. I saw her at the hotel cafe. Yeah, they were right. But this was still Adele level. She was Adele still, like the big Adele. She walked out there with the microphone. She told a couple little jokes. She cackled like Adele does and it's one of my favorite Adela she could have done that in Vegas and everybody would have been happy. She's especially coming out of him

She's so fascinating and for so many reasons but like because on one hand She's such an artist but even people that you love and are such artists can also still be Human, you, and superficial. Like one of the things that I loved about very early Adele, the first tour and a half, or the first two tours, she used to play the guitar, and she stopped because she's like, oh, they're bad for my nails. Like, she can't play them with long nails,

and she would rather have long nails than play the guitar in her concert. And I think that's so dumb. Like, why would you not want to show that versatility that you can or just have like an intimate moment where you put the band away and it's just you and your guitar? And how do you feel about when she lost the weight?

I think that's one of the other reasons why she lost her likability a bit, her related ability for not for everybody clearly, but I think some people they are like, oh, I prefer a fat adult. Do you feel like people, they are like, oh, I prefer a fat adult. Do you feel like they, people that identified with her, like we have similar bodies

and we both are gorgeous, that when she got thin, it was like, now I have this pressure to also be thinning, but we've abandoned us. It's not even that, it's more of like, oh, Adele got Hollywood. She lives in LA, and she's so Hollywood now.

I think I could be reading into it, but. How do you think she lost the weight? Working out twice a day, which I did back in the day. You know, there was a period where people thought I was anorexic. I wasn't anorexic. I was eating enough, but I was also working out twice a day. If you work out twice a day, you're going to get amazing results. But who the fuck has time to work out twice a day, you're gonna get amazing results. But who the fuck has time to work out twice a day

for a long, for forever, unless you're getting paid and you're professional, you're not gonna do that. I wish I had the time. I would. Oh my god, I loved my body. I loved how I looked when I was working out twice a day. Sickening.

I had the best abs. Oh my God. But now I've got three kids and I don't have time for that. I barely have time for my one a day, but I do it. Good. Good for you. Well this was super fun. Thank you so much.

I had a blast. I'll tell everybody where they, if they don't know how they can listen and follow. We have a podcast. It's called The Perez Holtz and podcast with Chris. Which I wanted to change the name of because i want to be more inclusive is like our show let's get her opinion on this should we change the name he to include to know the white straight man no no no no who cares about me i'm that and also to help us with such a bill it with it's not even that he has this thing about himself that people don't like him And he said if we just had a name, juicy scoop, if we were just that

Oh, and Perez health and on it more people made listen and I'm like, but you're the you're the knowledge. You're the show Now whatever what do you think should he change it to not be him? I don't think he changed I don't either don't change it for seven years no point i did have someone say what i first started to see scoop you should be call it that you should call it like how there's hollywood or whatever and i kind of for for like the first two years sort of regretted not calling it had a McDonald's so that my name would be more famous because the podcast is so good and um and Heather DeBro has a podcast and, you know,

and it's the name and, but then I realized, no, juicy scoop is great for that reason because it's just scoop with Heather McDonald's. Like I have almost like two names, but sometimes I feel like juicy scoop is more recognizable than Heather McDonald's, but whatever. I think all of that doesn't mean anything.

Just be good. You've been known as Pres Hilton for 20 years, so I would keep it as it is. Yeah, I think good is good. It doesn't matter what you're talking about. You can listen to our show at PerezPodcast.com or you can watch us on YouTube, which I prefer. Don't do that, that's a waste of time.

Just listen to the show, download it, it's good. There you go. And watch this one. This is on YouTube as well. Yes, yes, yes. It's talking about of time. Just listen to the show, download it, it's good. There you go. And watch this one. This is on YouTube as well. Yes, it's good. I'm talking about your show, I'm talking about our content. You can watch ours on my app, parrots,

else on YouTube channel. I like it because there's more content. He edits our audio show and he cuts out so much. Yeah. All the time I think it's good, they're not boring. Very boring. People that like us more to talk about, but whatever the show's over.

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