Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Love Island Scoop, West’s Girlfriend Rumors & Why The Valley Is Birth Control

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

The brilliant pop culture expert Farai Bennett joins me to break down all the behind-the-scenes secrets of the exclusive Love Island premier party he just attended, including how the show actually operates and the burning question: how much real intimacy is actually happening on camera? Next, we are diving deep into part two of the explosive Summer House reunion to unpack the shocking revelation that Amanda apparently knew West had a full-on girlfriend while they were hooking up. Dorit Kemsley’s new book is out and I share whether I think her behavior was justified on this season of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Finally, we recap The Valley, discussing why this season might scare an entire generation away from marriage and kids, and the real reason Scheana didn't officially join the cast. Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/juicycrimes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net/⁠⁠ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/juicyscoop⁠⁠ Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopTZFUvAeokrJJ6dQ5wuAW1T3nssO6pHk47u7KymJUBtBgKCvfX⁠⁠ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Heather McDonald has got the juices scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, juices scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales for real life, Mr. Sagan, serial data, and serial sister, you'll be addicted and addicted fast. Life podcast, Heather McDonald's, JuicySko. Welcome to Juicy Scoop. We've got a fun one today.

We have a return favorite for Rye Bennett. He is back to Juicy Scoop. Yes. Looking cute as ever. He is funny. He does hot takes. He's knowledgeable of all the things in the world that don't matter that we love to talk about. And welcome back to Juicy Scoop.

Thanks for having me. We always have so much fun together. So let's get into it. Last night, because you are an influencer, you're in with the girlies, you're at Cichella, you're doing all the things, you're at the Hulu, you know, premieres. And you were out of that last night for the premiere of Love Island, which is on Peacock, which is getting a lot of heat that like coming back again. Yes. Ariana is still the host. Yes, we love her.

And do they still do long shots of her ass jiggling? for like a netted baiting suit, like a netted cover-up. No, she wore something very classic this time. She wore like a black. One of those, like, is it called like a sculpted dress? Like one side was like a shape. Okay. And then like she had like a very like fancy like Betty Boop-ish hair.

Not Betty Boop, but like very like, I don't know. Oh, like the old-fashioned swarled. Yeah, like that. Yeah. And she's still brunette. She's still brunette. She said she was going to stay brunette all summer. She came up to me at this like Spotify party.

and as Brunette, right when she, and I did not know who she, like, I did not know who she was. For a little bit. I was like, no, like, who's pretty girl? And, you know, she's tired of me. Like, we've known each other. Like, we've known each other for like 10 years. But I was just, and I was like, and then, and then, like, Brandy and Julia are like, oh my God, like, can you believe Ariana said that? And I go, who's Ariana. She's like, that's who. So I wonder if she's with her brown, long hair going a little more. No, did you know, you should see my story. She's, totally doing the cunty walk. Like she is owning it. Like I, that's what I love about Love Island. I love how slutty it is. Now, who was the host before she, before Scandival and before she got it?

Uh, I think it was Sarah Highland and like nobody really moved from modern family. Oh, that's right. Well, and that's Wells Adams wife. Yes. From The Bachelor. Yes. Wow. Do you think she's bummed about it? I just, like Wells. If you only fucking cheated with my best friend, I could. still have this gig. You know what I think it is? I just feel like CBS didn't know how to handle Love Island. So I feel like now that Peacock has it, I feel like everything was just a perfect storm of getting cheated on by Tom Sandoval.

Now you're the host of Love Island. The whole thing, Love Island is a whole fight. Do they still have the sandwich shop? Yes, and the sandwiches are good. No, I know. The sandwiches are great. Yeah, I live right by there. I walk by there all the time.

Yeah, and then also, Katie is going to be kind of like a semi-regular on Stasi's Shulu show. So everyone's working but Tom Sandoval. Yes. Well, he's still, he's doing trivia and singing and stuff. Oh, is he? I was going to say, do we have a pulse check on Tom Sandoval? He's not been in my face.

I feel like I know what Sina's doing more than I know what Tom Zanavall is doing. And I really shouldn't know what Sina is doing at all. Sheena also was performing good as gold at some outdoor thing. Oh, with her daughter there. And she's like, oh, I'm showing my daughter my dream. Okay. Do you think before we get into, well, we'll get into the Valley, but do you think that L, do you think that Sheena regrets not being on the Valley?

Was she asked to be on the Valley? We don't totally know. I feel like there was no. I think that could be a little bit of a mystery. I love, I love Sheena. She's always been great to me. I like her. I, when I listened to her podcast episode where she had Alex Baskin, the producer of the Valley on,

she said he said we gave you a compelling offer you chose not to take it whatever that might mean I thought it might have been like paper scene be a friend I don't know what it was but I was like

why wouldn't you take that like especially if it wasn't exclusive like why and she had said I read a comment that said Sheena on the Valley is like the girl that goes back to high school

or something and I'm like do you imagine if you're the one person that wrote that comment and you realize that you wrote that and you were like... And it touched lives. And you ended up not going back to this TV show. But then I've also heard that maybe that really wasn't the case. And this was a soft landing agreement. Yeah, they're letting her tell her story.

But I also think because they're so entwined and stuff, especially with reality TV, especially with this group, certainly she could come back next year if there's a reason or where she wants. wants to or there's something happening within their lives. I didn't know that Sheena, like, cared that much about public opinion versus, like, how she moves. Like, who cares of some random, like, commenter told you, like, you're going back to high school? Like, that's something that seems, that doesn't seem like that would deter her at all. I mean, listen, I've been on, listen, I know how mean comments can affect you. And it goes in ways.

And I think some people figure it out real quick and are fine. And it's like, you know, the only way to read it. a mean comment, even though some of those commenters, wow, they're good. They are good, they are clever. They really hit her where it hurts too. They come up with things that you didn't even know would bother

you. And you're like, you're fucking right. I know. And then she's like, actually, Alex Baskin, I won't be coming back to the valley. All condolences, like, whatever. But those people aren't on TV and they're not seeing good as gold and they're not living the life you're living. So it's like you have to like remember that. But

anyway. That's like I get mad about that though because it's like, okay, these commenters like, yeah, they get to you, but it's like they don't live the life that you live. It's like when these people from Love Island get canceled or whatever. Yeah. And it's like, okay, yeah, that girl shouldn't be saying the N word, but like you guys really dug this up to expose her. And it's like, I just don't believe we should be living in the society where we expose people

to expose people. It's like, it just shows me that you don't have enough. You're jealous of what they've got going on. So you've decided to do this. You know what reminds me of that trending sound bite, which is the guy. being like, yeah, but do you have views like this in Kansas? Have you ever seen that when people are like, I would never live in California? It's like, okay, but you don't have a view like this, whatever that.

Yeah, and like Topeka, Kansas, like, no. But, you know, so I, so you were at this event at Laurel Hardware, which is a cute restaurant in West Hollywood. At first I was like, why are we doing this at Laurel Hardware? And then I think in my mind, I think Laura Hardware is like smaller than it is. And I go there and I'm like, oh, I guess this is kind of a scene. When someone first asked me about it, I'm like, why are we going to Ace Hardware store? Like, I literally thought it was a hardware. I'm like, wait, what?

We're meeting. And they have like a supply store now that's like the new Airwan and they're low-key stealing Airwans nachos. I saw that they, you know, it's so interesting that they're just like, if you just put some oats in like a glass jar, it's a whole different thing. And you can charge $35. Yeah, yeah. And then you put some tables outside. It's like it's this obscure lunch spot. I love it.

That's what I love about L.A. Like, it's all so stupid. I know. It's like, let's go back to like the old West times where it's like, you know when you see like an old like a fake little like. Saloon. That's like what they want. But put it next to a Glossier and it's cunt. Like yes.

Let's go to Glossier and then let's go have a lunch and eat oats in a jar and like just have a fun time. And that's considered like a good wholesome afternoon. Yes. Absolutely. you were there. Tell me about it. It was fun. Some of like the other stars

from last season were there you can tell they hated being there as contractual boots. But it was just like really funny because I feel like it's funny with Love Island because they don't all really watch the show because like one,

I feel like it's too much to watch for them. It's on every day. And I feel like they're just so affected by the internet and they're just kind of like you can tell they're there and they're there to have fun but the moment it's over it's like

okay I gotta go. Like you could totally feel bad for everyone else who's in the villa. Like it reads across their face like, So glad that's not me. And so this show is another one of the shows where two people will make a actual fucking, meaning they're screwing alliance, until a bombshell comes in. And they change their mind.

And obviously everyone's tested for STDs. Right. Two drink minimum. But do they get tested then every week? That I don't know. Are there E.PT tests everywhere, pregnancy tests that you could take? Well, I'm sure there are. because they all sleep in the same room.

Some of them do fuck in the same room. And are they required to wear condoms? Does a producer come in and tap you on the shoulder and say, you forgot to put this on? I don't know. They don't put that in there. Did you see the scene last season of the girl who, like, licked her hand? And then she, because they were fucking.

And then she, like, licked her hand. And then she, like, they zoomed in on her. And then when she got a million followers on Instagram or TikTok, she had, like, a $1 million cake. James Hannah, now she's on Beyond the Villa. But she had like a cake that said one mill, and then she like licked the frosting. Listen, I understand the job market is tough out there. Well, now do you see one of the contestants.

He's from Pennsylvania. He was a cop in Pennsylvania. Right. And the mayor of Pennsylvania is like mad at him for like being on LaViolan and not protecting the streets of Pennsylvania. Now what the fuck does that have to do with him? He's not the Hulk. He's not Iron Man.

Like he's not going to save all of Pennsylvania just because he decided to go to LaVilleand in Fiji. It just gives a hater. I'm like, okay, so of course you don't want to have a real job. Boy, getting back to this, because now I'm really truly obsessed. Oh, this guy's a nepo contestant. His brother was on last season, so he went through the cracks. Oh, this girl, Sabrina Carpenter Doop. The blonde.

She was busing it wide open in her intro. You have to see it. She's like on the beach and there's water. I wish I could like reenact it here. It was crazy. Like, actually, can I? Yeah. Oh my God.

No, literally. You can tell. You got to stay by the mic. You can tell she's practiced this in the mirror at least 1,100 times. Okay, good for her. And they said, action. The waves are crashing. She's busting it open.

And it's like, hi. I don't even know her name. I'm going to say her name's Sabrina. She's like, it's me. And then like, you see her whole pussy. It is. And I was like, whoa. But like I said, it's a slut boot show.

I'm down. I mean, listen, it's crazy that like this type of stuff, obviously a lot of these people, I'm sure, if they don't already have their only fans, go on to OnlyFans. And like I said, it's a hard economy out there to get a job. Right. And this will give you all the jobs. Maybe I'll watch it. You need to watch it every day. I feel like it's on every day.

It's just so ridiculous. Is it once a week? Is it really on every day? That's a lot for me. It's on every day. They do the aftersons on Saturdays. No one really likes afterson, but I feel like they're going to like it because Sierra is going to be hosting Afterson. Oh, good for her. Yeah. Well, getting into Sierra. Yes. So Amanda had kissed.

Kyle, this is Summerhouse, on the same day that she and West kissed for the first time allegedly. So they said the first time we kissed was at this brunch. But I guess at the brunch... She kissed Kyle to be like, oh my God, like, yeah. But so people think she kissed Kyle

because she was already getting with West and she was kind of trying to make West a little jealous. Of course. I mean, first of all, I just let's talk about it. It's a second episode of the reunion. Pretty juicy for a part too.

Yes. And the juiciest part is it comes out that West really had a whole another girlfriend. When they pulled up the camera on her, I was like, oh, we're going there. I was like, oh, my God. She's speaking. I could not believe that. I was like. And basically he told this girl that was his girlfriend for months that he said.

he said he was exclusive with, but that he couldn't be public with because it would hurt his standing with Bravo. Right. They would only want him to date people that were on the show, which is crazy because has this girl never said reality

TV. I mean, everybody become, not everybody, but Amanda became a reality TV star because Kyle was dating her. Yeah, she would go over the middle of the day. Yeah. Got on the show because Jacks Taylor dated her. Like, you can get your way on a show by being the significant other.

There's no weird secret to it. He obviously lied. He didn't want her there. He also was fucking around with Sierra like in the last few moments of the episodes of like, you know. Yeah. And then also like he was like, I don't know, he was entertaining other girls kind of. Like he was going out partying. I don't know.

He's kind of slimy now, no? Oh my God. Yes. He's. And it's like the mid boys always get away with this. always like the guys who are like a little mid, but they're so fun and they care about you. And they're like they're so immersed in you. And it's like, those are the ones you have to watch out for. At least when the hot guys fuck you over, it's like, oh, well, he was hot. Like, I deserved it.

I've always said that. I'm always like, you know, I remember one time a friend was like, don't lower yourself to someone that's not at your level thinking that they'll kiss your ass and be grateful. Now. Because those guys are the worst. Because they weren't always hot. And then, and they weren't always hot and now they're getting undeserved pussy and they then have horrible ego. A guy that was always getting it and didn't have to work that hard at it. Yeah. They're like fine. But these ones that you think are like, you think you're doing your Christian service hours.

You think you're doing your charity work. You're like, I'm always going to be the hottest one. And I've said that. I know this guy is that type that's like, oh my God. you're totally out of my lead. I know. And act so into you. And then they drop you like a hot pocket and you're like, are you fucking serious?

I mean, apparently there are people witnessing Amanda, Amanda in West right now are at a wedding. In Rome. In Rome, which was a friend of Wes or something. But there is a report. I don't know how this came about, how they got the evidence of the actual invitation. So I don't know if this is true. but that the invitation was to West and Amanda. And so that would-

That would change their timeline because you have to send those out six weeks in advance, especially when it's a European wedding and there's probably a save a date prior to that. But so we all know this weird story of them saying, oh, we didn't have sex till after we put out the announcement. Like, is this 19-55? Is this like a shot?

gun wedding where you're like lying about your child's age your whole life because you were actually too much pregnant when you married the farmer's daughter. Like what do you talk? Like this is so. I don't know why they're lying about the timeline. I feel like people would respect them a lot more if they just said like this is it. Like it's just like so ridiculous to me. And it feel and also I don't believe they're like in a real relationship at this time when the reunion's airing. I feel like they forced themselves into having to be a couple and they were just like fucking and like going on dates and like enjoying each other. And now I feel like they've convinced themselves They have to be in this relationship

So it looks better And I just don't think it has to be all of that I feel like now they're probably like in a closer relationship Because they're in Rome now And they're obviously doing things together And they feel bonded because everybody hates them But I just like I'm like Are you guys together?

Like you don't have to be doing all of this Like just say you like had the urge You hated your husband Amanda just say you fucking hate Kyle Like just say that I think she really is gonna want to make this work with West For sure Yeah but West isn't gonna want to make that work with

her, like at all. What I just think is so crazy is that she really blew the opportunity to one day host Love Island. I know, but she was going to be lazy and never do that anyway. People used to think Ariana was lazy, but when it came... I never thought she was lazy. I never really thought that. I don't really thought that. Did she?

She was not a booming personality on the show. My opinion on Ariana is that, like, I feel like she wanted to do things with Tom and they were trying to be more of a team and that's how they saw themselves. but so she never felt not, I don't want to say she never felt comfortable branching out, but it just seems like Tom was always in her head. So like I feel like that's like the difference where it's like, but Amanda, like when they were arguing in the first episode about like her being naked in the pool, I'm like Amanda, you should have been wearing your swimmer line, honestly.

Like, why are you fighting about being naked in the pool? Where is Amanda Patula swim? Wait, explain the naked in the pool part. She was, so the first weekend of the summer when they're there, like she got like. Who's she? Amanda. Amanda. Okay.

She got like, I don't want to say naked, but she like, Had her undergarments in the pool with the guys. And you saw Wes's face go. Yeah. Because her boobs are really good. Yeah. And they appear to be like natural. And then she wore just like a,

a bando bra instead of a regular bikini. And Kyle was mad because she was like having fun in the pool. And he was like mad that she was like naked. And I was like, well, you shouldn't really be having this argument. You should be hawking your swimmer line. Like your husband is hawking as alcohol. A lover boy every minute. Yeah.

Forcing these new girls to like get in your good graces by wearing your swimline. I'm like, I don't hear anything. I don't think she wanted to do it. I think she was just forced into doing it because like Paige was like, you should like do something for yourself. But does she want to do something for herself? No.

Or was she already like flirting and everything and feeling it for West and thinking like I'm just gonna words raw. But what is West gonna do for you? Like what? Well, that's like what I didn't understand is when people would always say pick me.

I didn't understand what pick me girl meant. But it really means that you're that girl that just wants to be chosen by the guy. Right. And so because Kyla had like many other girls. And so then she felt special that like he was like, okay, you're the one.

Even though he's, you know, not always. Yeah. And he was faithful or whatever. So West has had many different girls. So then there's this moment where Amanda in the reunion goes, I didn't know how to tell you that I had feelings for a guy who was also seeing another girl. And Sierra's like, you're telling me.

who had an on and off dating relationship with this guy that like screwed up my brain and my heart for two years. That's what you were, again, you were, that's where it's like, yeah, she's not winning any points. I think she's definitely on like a beta blocker or something. I think she, I just think Amanda's not smart. I don't think she thought this through. They had a month to think it through. I just feel like, I feel like everyone's wondering like, why is she doing this? I'm like, I don't think she knows why.

I honestly don't think because she didn't. I didn't share it with anybody. Yeah. Of like, I'm really, I'm having a feeling. Like, if she was just, like, picked with the phone and called a front and was like, I know this is crazy. But, like, West kind of like, touched my ass. And I'm like, I think something's going on.

And I'm just, or, or I made out with West. And I don't want anyone to know. It's, if she had a real friend, they'd be like, Amanda, like, this guy is going to get over with you in a month. Right now, you're finally sticking up for yourself. to a guy that we've seen on camera not treat you great. You are gonna be the Ariana.

This is gonna, this is. Yes, stick it through. You should have never even been on TV. You're on TV. Because you were kind of a hangar on. Yeah. So now you have this opportunity. And now I'm sure there's like,

if there are any brand deals in the works because there was this little window. Where she had that weed brand deal. She had the weed and she was like wearing. She was a cool girl. She was kind of in her Luan era. Like don't be all. cool. Like she was kind of having like

Amanda Sons. Yes, and it was like smoking weed and smoking cigarettes and wearing a little ice jeans. And everyone's like, let her smoke weed. And everyone's like, good for her. Like that guy, you know. So she had this little window and now it's just very And now Sierra took all your nachos. She took them all. And rightfully

so though. I just, yeah, you're okay, because Sierra's doing the after show, I totally agree. I think if Amanda had embraced it, had every girl be like, that's my girl, you kick him to the curb, you finally stood up for yourself, you have your two girls behind you being like, you go, Amanda. If she'd never fallen for West and his horrible outfits and is biting his fingernails and his gross mustache, she had just not fallen into that. And he didn't

even steam the back of this. This could have been such a great story. Now, it's still TV. There's still things that could happen. I hate to be such like a baby wanter, but I'm still like, again, if they have a baby. They're not having a baby. I'm just saying that is the one way to save this. I know. Also, going back to the Love Island. So it is kind of crazy when you think about it, that in all the different seasons of Love Island and all the different reality shows where people are sleeping together how has no one gotten knocked up IUD maybe

I wonder if they do say we need to know that you are on like a very very strong birth control on Love Island I'm sure they ask I don't know I wonder if that is a requirement and I would like to know but then someone could go no

I think they have to use it doesn't work with my body but that's what I said. You can't force someone to put on a condom and you can't force someone to take a pill every day. But how? But it's like

we're on Love Island I'm going to be an influencer. I don't really want to be a mom. I just need to know statistically. Maybe people have, and it hasn't worked out or they've chosen for it not to work out. But statistically,

I can't believe that there's this much boning going on with these fertile people. You didn't know they fuck like that? No, but I'm just now thinking about it. All the, TV shows. And if you did get pregnant, could you get child support from the network?

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Just imagine for the rest of your life, The kid, they're like, and who's going to be paying for this school tuition, their father? Yeah, Andy Cohen. Andy Cohen. What? Literally. Did you see his new boyfriend that he was out with? Andy Cohen has a new boyfriend?

They were like posting that. It's a white guy. Age appropriate too. So a couple of things. One other thing that always happens in a reunion, okay? Uh-huh. When someone's in the hot seat, which is clearly Amanda and West. Yeah.

So then Amanda, you know, can't take it. And she's like, I have to get up and just control myself or whatever. She's crying. And then West is sitting there. And they're like, go get your girl. He should have gone up though. But then I kind of felt for him for one moment, okay? When he goes, okay, but if I go her, then you'll say, I can't believe the two of them left.

And I kind of agree. Imagine this. Imagine if he, she got up, upset. And he immediately was like, I'm so sorry, Andy, please. Let me just. And got up. they would be like, oh my God, the dramatics of those two, but I'm just saying. If that is his girlfriend and they are in love who gives a fuck what they think, go and help her.

And I think that's the point. He cares more about public perception than how he comes off. Then it's like, because if that were me, it'd be like, fuck them for saying that. Like, I'm just going to go help her. But he didn't even think to move. He just sat there and was like, is this okay, guys? Like, is everything okay? And it's like, no, go get her.

Like, if you are in love and you like her and, like, if this is all so worth it to you, then like who gives the fuck what we think like we're all haters like however okay however I think there are rules where they say and please guys don't be getting up and being dramatic that that we don't like that even though people have done it over the years I think they kind of get scolded for it and they're really not supposed to do that I don't know about that so I think just in his defense because sometimes I'm a divil that I think he was kind of yes I think he's an idiot and wouldn't go get her if they were anywhere. But the other part of it is he was kind of like, yeah, if I go up after her, then all these

people, Kyle, Sierra, who dated them both, would have been like, oh my God, the performative nature of like Romeo and Juliet over there. Like, I could see it being that. So I kind of feel in this way he can't win. He can't win. He can't win. He can't win. He can't win.

There's nothing he could do. They could be, I think they're all kind of not being mean enough. Some people think that West went after Amanda to catch more clout for himself because she was getting some love for dumping Kyle. I could see that. And I could see all the like West not really likeing Kyle honestly. And also, I'm sorry, like Kyle calling Amanda a bitch. Like isn't that big of a deal to me? Like it's just really not.

Like I just like, he shouldn't be doing that. Totally agree. But it's like I just don't believe that like, like. My thing is, like, I feel like sometimes on Bravo, like, people don't understand that two things can be true. Like, Kyle can be a shitty husband, but Amanda can also not be a great wife. Like, I just feel like sometimes, like, even when it comes to the cheating, she says a lot without saying it. Like, she'll be like, there's rumors that you cheated on me. And then he just sits there and it's like, that's your time to say, did you do it?

Like, so then we can see your perspective. But, like, I feel like she's too busy protecting him, but hating him. And then, like, I feel like she's not explaining enough her side of, like, why she's going with West. Because then even in the reunion, she says, she's like, well, I'm just, everyone is just going to forget what Kyle did. And it's like, yeah, but it's like, just say what he did. Like, say why you did this, but she doesn't really say. I think that they had an awful marriage.

And I think that he did verbally abuse her in those ways. And she was kind of clocking it. And thinking, like, I'm getting out of this and I'm going to show him. And part of that revenge. fell on her lap with West and she was just like, I don't care. Like, I've hated you for three years. Right.

And you've, you've disrespected me so many times and spoken to be so poorly. Like, and I know that sometimes, you know, you're a guy, so maybe to you don't think that's a big deal. And sadly, in many relationships, I think people do call each other out of their name

and it's really awful. And we don't see the full thing. We don't see the full thing, but we, but that's, the whole thing. Like you're, you, your career is sharing your personal relationship. Like, that is what pays the bills. It is really sick and weird. If you think about it, it's part of our world, it's part of their world. But I think that, um, yeah, I mean, I, I think if he's doing it in front of people during the summer house, I think it's happening all year round. I think he's probably

calling her lazy. He's probably like, why didn't you stack those? lover boy can't. I don't like also subscribe to this thing that Amanda's like this meek person who doesn't stand up for herself. I think Amanda's very opinionated. I feel like sometimes when she's in front of the cameras, she likes to be like, oh my God, look what he's doing to me. Can you believe he did that? She wants everyone to speak for her. And I get why he freaked out because it's like, why am I hearing this from Lindsay and Sierra? Like you don't even tell me these things. And then here you are like antagonizing the situation. And like, because they don't communicate. So like I could see how that's fresh. Because I get it when you're with someone who's in,

even when you have like friends like I feel like people expect you to be the bigger personality so everyone thinks that you're overdramatic and you're doing this and the person who's like more like quieter is like they're seen as the victim and that's not always the case I feel like they're just as bad but like people just don't see or realize

because you're louder and well that's why Sierra says you're a snake in the grass you're like the unexpected we thought you were this fragile you know person but you kind of were probably planning plotting being quite secretive

with this relationship knowing it would be hurtful when it was found out, but really kind of being selfish and choosing it. Like Sierra said, out of all the men, like you could date anybody. But also, that's what happens when people have an affairs.

They have it with their work husband. They have it with their friend's husband. They have it with the neighbor. People are there for them. It's because it's close and it's proximity and you actually know the person. It's not, I mean, you know,

not a lot of people just go for a girl's weekend and find the love of their life in the lobby at the Bellagio. Like, you want that to be the case. You want to be like, let me just have like one fuck weekend and like, and he's a hot, no, it's most likely like anything.

Yeah, and he is a co-worker. Yeah, it's going to take time. He knows you. He's comforted you numerous times when the real husband has been mean. Like, I mean, you know. But some of what they were doing was a little bit inappropriate, like some of the handsy stuff.

And then, you know, there was a time where she was holding Craig's hand underneath the table. Do you remember that part? Really weird. There was the time where she was cuddling with her friend's husband that, like, came to visit. Yeah. And then didn't you, wasn't she doing the skinny dipping with Ben and? She went skimmy dipping with, yeah, Ben and some other people the summer before, like skinny dipping. Like, that's pretty bad.

I know. Like, that's pretty, to be totally, like, naked, like, crotch out. like with somebody other than your husband that's like a man. I mean, so, there you go. Oh, but what I was saying, so, and then, but Lindsay did that classic thing

that happens with every, happens on every reunion where she was like, well, when it was me in the hot seat. But she made a point. Yeah, but it's always like, but there's always that. But Lindsay never gave a fuck even when she was. She was like, fine.

Like she took it and like, whatever. I never left. I didn't, okay. And Amanda was always one of those people. people calling her out. So it's like, okay, well, now I'm calling you out because what you did was actually bullshit. Like, you know, like Lindsay never cheated her on anyone. She was just being nasty boots to other people. Are you watching this city? Um, kind of. So apparently it's gotten real good. Okay, good. And so there is this scene, I guess, it just came out last night where

like this mullet of hers. I can't. It pisses me off so bad. How did she create this horrible hairdo? I do not fucking know. It makes me so upset. And then his back's wet. I can't with that. Yeah, it's like... He doesn't steam his clothes correctly. It really bothers me. He doesn't buy clothes that fit him. So this one is, I guess she goes out to eat. Yeah, and in the scene.

I saw the scene online. With West and Sierra, and this would have been shot in October of 25. So now, according to their timeline, they didn't start anything until whatever, the announcement came out, which would have been March or something, or April. Yeah. Like end of March. It was end of March. End of March. So.

Right before Coachella. I remember because, okay, so she, my astrologer kind of knows West. So I was, so I was, I did it? Oh my God. I first tell you, I went to one of the summer house parties. Oh, tell me about it. I went to the first one. And that's where I met the, so I went with all these girls who I'm friends with

in New York and my astrologer was one of their friends. So she's like, oh, I live in L.A. And then we became friends. So anyway, she was, so she's like, oh, so I know how she knows. And so I texted her the weekend before they did their like announcement because I was like, what's the tea girl? Didn't hear from her. Like whatever.

It comes out and then she finally texted me back. She goes, yeah, I didn't text you back because like, you know, it was obvious. I was like, oh my God, no, I figured your silence told me the answer. But that was like late March. But I think they were like having something emotional. What was it like going to one of those parties? It was like not as like produced as I thought. Like, well, here's the thing.

so they keep everyone outside the gate and you, and they do invite friends of friends, so it doesn't feel like they're inviting extras or anything like anything like that. Like my friend who I was visiting, like his boss is friends with Kyle. So he got us on the list, like all of us. And then so.

Was it a theme? Yeah, it was the country like cowboy theme. They were doing the county fair theme. So the thing is they keep you outside for like an hour and they tell you to be there at a certain time. So and then Wes comes out, he brings like wine and they bring lover boy. So you're drinking with like in this small and closed group of people

and you're all kind of meeting each other. and like drinking, getting to know each other. So by the time the party starts and you sign the release and you get in, it's not really awkward because you've talked to everybody already and you're like, oh, and you've built a rapport. So it just, it feels, it does feel more like a party. And there's food? They made corn dogs. I mean.

But none of you guys are miced. No, we're not mic. Did people go on the pool? No. And the music is like, you know. Has to be low because they're filming. It was like loudish, but it wasn't like good music until like the very end of the party. they started playing good music because I feel like that's what it's like B-roll hour hour for them.

When I went to the Kyle White Party, what was funny is at the end, then finally they basically, I can't remember it was like Sutton and somebody else joking that like they're like, oh, this is our favorite part, which is now dance and act like you're having fun because now we're actually done filming. Yeah. So always at the part, like whatever you see them, like dancing, that's always at the end when they're like just about, because that's what they can turn up the music, actually have you dance for 10 minutes, and then you can leave. Black car outside. And they're like, okay, everybody, act like, have fun, grab your boom, come on. Like, it's work.

These people want to leave, you know, and it's just, they're weird. It's weird going to parties at their film. Like, I, there was a time I went to a lot. Then there was a time where I was, like, turning them all down. And it's crazy because they spend all this money to put it together. and it's like you're not even having fun. You can't even play the music you want to play. You can't really talk to your guests.

Right. No, you can't. And that's why I'm like, I can't believe that they still have to pay for the... I mean, the summer house people don't have to pay for their parties, but like a housewife has to pay to host her own party at her house. I always wonder that.

Do they just invoice them at the end and say, like, can you pay for some of this? I think in like the case of Kyle's White party since it was like really part of the show, I think in the beginning she probably had to pay for it all because she's like, they ask, oh, what do you have? Every year I have a white party,

she's probably paying for it all. I would think at a certain point you've been not doing it for so long, why wouldn't you negotiate that as part of your deal? Like, hey, if I'm hosting three parties, yeah, I need this kind of budget. Like, I would be crazy not to ask for that. Yeah.

But I've heard different, you know, different things of what's paid or what's not. And I don't know, but like, no, her party was very extravagant. I mean, the flowers, all the rented furniture. I can't want to see it. It was, it would be a very expensive party. Was there drama?

No. Not really. It was just like there was some salt lake housewives that were avoiding each other. Yeah, I've heard they were acting very nasty. They were just avoiding each other. Lisa Barlow is a doll of mine. Yeah, yeah. So they did, I talked to them all, but they were not talking to each other.

So I'll say that. But, okay, so getting back. So when you go to the party, how long, like, how long do you stay? Are you kind of like after a while, like, let's go? So I was there for like, I want to say about two hours. And then my friend was like, let's go to Fibulus Party, who's like another influencer. And I was like, yeah, I'm kind of bored here.

And then I asked the producers, I was like, hey, if I go to another party, like, can I come back? And they're like, yeah, for sure. So we went to Fibulus party. It was kind of over. And then so I was like, let me go back to the summer house party because all my friends were there. And I had to meet them and we're all kind of, because at the Hamptons is very up to Uber everywhere. Everything's so far away. So, yeah, so I ended up going

back and I was like, oh, do I have to like do this again? They're like, no, just come in. And then I was like, guys, no matter what, we can't be those people where they're telling them to leave. So embarrassing. Yes. Let's like go. Because it was July 4th and we left around 7. The party started at like 3.30. So it was still

going, but you could tell it was dying down. So when we left it was like kind of daylight. When there is drama going on there, like, talking over there were you kind of trying to like be like I wonder what's going on? No, I didn't. because I didn't want to be that person, but I was in the kitchen and it was like surreal, like, oh, so this is like where it goes down. Yeah. But my friend was like trying to get with KJ and he like, I think he went on a couple dates.

But then he like obviously like dropped her because he's like, I'm in this now. But yeah. Amazing. Okay. So how do you feel about everyone becoming a DJ? Derinda is on the make it nice tour, but she's DJing. I don't mind when a Bravo Liberty DJs. I think it's weird that Kyle gets the blues

but I'm like guys Kyle told you he has no money so like what Amanda Why are you mad that he's DJing like if Someone told me that we are in debt And like lover boy's not doing it and I'm getting Offered X amount of dollars to DJ I would be behind the DJ booth being like Yeah that's what I'm gonna do

Because I don't want to be broke either And like we're married like I would support Like of course he's not coming home But that's a problem in your marriage that you had before But do you think that's like a turn on to go See a housewife just be like, is that enough to go and make that your evening? Because you're not like seeing them do stand.

If you're not seeing them do like a live podcast with their Q&A, you're not seeing them do like a Luann thing. I think it's. Or is it better that you don't see them do all that. You're just like, let's just have fun. They're like, it's fun. I think like there's so many bravo bands that will pay to do anything. It's fun to dance to a DJ set. I love dancing.

It was good when we saw him at. Remember we saw him at Hawkinson? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I thought he was great. And I mean, that is a fun thing to be. do. So I think it's really smart. I think if some, I'm sure some producers

are going to them, putting it all together, setting it all up, setting the music, giving them DJ lessons so they just kind of like get a hang of it. And Meredith, when she does it, like, I would go to a Meredith Mark show. Like, I think from she does that, it's so cool. Out of all the people, you could only go to one. Okay?

DJ Pretty Mess. DJ Kyle Cook. DJ Derinda. DJ Meredith Marks. Is there anyone else? Maddie Reese, because she's a real DJ from Southern Hospitality. Okay. James Kennedy.

James Kennedy. I forgot about him. Is there anyone else? I think that's it as far as I know. I'm not going to see DJ pretty much. Of those six, which one? You can only go to one. Okay.

I've already seen Kyle. So I think I would do Meredith because I feel like Meredith has like this fun vibe that people love. She plays all the hits. She has that gay son of hers. and he's always telling her what's cool. So I feel like she has that in mind. Okay. Good one.

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So it is actually going to trial. How did they fumble that? I couldn't believe. Whoever did that must have lost their job. So it's going to trial, which is great for her. And basically what she is claiming is that they, you know, encourage her to drink and, you know, plucked up her sobriety and all of this. But then the latest part of this lawsuit is that she calls out this other Bravo executive

and Andy Cohen saying they got other housewives to come after me in a weird smear campaign and she names them in the lawsuit. Who are they? Some of them were like Kyle Fadre, I think. There were a few. Now what I recall, okay, is it's kind of like this smear campaign that, like,

like Blake Lively is trying to say that happened with the Justin Baldoni PR people. But I remember when it came out, there were tweets and things like that from a lot of Housewives, but I guess these were the five, the five that I can't remember my names, but I just were saying like, I, you know, we love Andy Cohen and he's never forced me to do anything that I haven't wanted to do and something like that. And they were all kind of coming out with things like that. I think they're trying, her people are trying to build a case saying like that they were contacted to do this. So she's Blake lively. He's Justin Baldoni.

And she's saying that like, yeah, like that they reached out to these people that had great influence. There were other housewives to put something out there to make her look crazy like, well, this has never happened to us. You know, it's like if someone was accused of whatever, sexual assault. And then you're like, well, he was always nice to me. And it's like, okay, he was a gentleman to me. We slept in the same bed. And, you know, he didn't touch me and whatever. And you're kind of like, okay, but that doesn't mean that this person's thing is not it.

Now, her story is, I think, pretty far-fetched in that it's reality TV. I agree. They knew when she started, you know, she said she was sober. But then when she went back, she was like, no, I am drinking. That's when she was doing the tea tour. And also, why would you go on a reality show knowing? that you could be that you could make that switch so fast. Yeah.

And then this was part of the reality reckoning thing. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Bethany Frankel. She was hoping that would really take off. And now she'd just abandon that. Just like. Now she's in.

You know, Bethany Frankel? She was in St. Bart's with my friend's brother. And he was taking a FaceTime with his girlfriend and was like, there's this random older lady trying to give us business advice. And so she shows my friend the screenshot who's his sister. And she's like, dude, that's Bethany Frank. What kind of business advice? He was like, I don't know.

This random brawl is at our table in same parts, and she keeps trying to talk to us about how she knows an incredible business. I don't know how she could help us and blah, blah, and we weren't even talking to her about business. We didn't even know why she was at her table. There's a photo and everything. Oh, my God. And then she's like, dude, that's Bethany print.

That's great. And I was literally, she's holding a wine glass. She's wearing like this black top and she's mid-sentence. No one is like talking to her. I was like, oh, my God. In her wine afternoon buzz St. Bartz, she thinks she's doing the Lord's work. She really does. She is anti-Bee.

She has me blocked on TikTok. You know that, right? She has me blocked. I know. She's so, you know what's so funny? I remember the last thing I said about her on TikTok that wasn't even like, I hadn't talked about her in forever. And I was like, we as a society have to stop listening to Bethany Frankel.

And then I moved on with what I was saying. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm so glad she saw that. Like, listen, I also don't blame people that want to block people because sometimes you see something. And you're like, oh my God, I loved that person. That really hurt my feelings. And you're like, I don't want them to see my stuff anymore so they can criticize it. So I totally get it.

And I don't, it doesn't make me, I don't think any less of them or something. I'm like, look, I, I didn't like that she was going after this one young influencer. And I, and I spoke up about it. So that's when I was blocked like two years, two, three years ago. I don't like that she think, I don't know why she thinks she's the authority of everything. thing. I don't know who. Like, I would say like, oh my God, did her parents inflate her ego, but I don't think they did that either. So I was like, so where does she get the self-importance? That's like my only mystery about her. It's entertaining as fuck. And it's like, it's like,

and I'm kind of glad that I am locked because I don't see a lot of it. I don't see it. Yeah. So when I just see something like interesting, like you just told me, it's still interesting. Like I'm not like, like, ugh. Like I'm not, it doesn't bother. I'm not eating. I'm not seeing the chicken salad in her mouth. I'm not seeing all that. So I'm kind of like, oh, that's kind of interesting. Oh, here she is dancing and sports illustrating. Good for her. I'm just kind of like, what, oh, here's this new boyfriend of hers. And okay. She do be getting a new boyfriend all the time. And that's the one thing. That is like something I'm jealous of. Like, wow, she really gets a new boyfriend like with no issue. No, with ease. With ease. I think that she's like pretty great in the sack and hook in a guy.

Has to be. I think she is. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's what I've heard from contourses. Which I think is good compliment. Yeah, good for her. The body's begging. Go for it. So any, that's what's going to happen. And then according to, because of this, allegedly, Andy has really curtailed his personal texting with housewives like he used to do. I could see that.

You know, on maybe he, A, does another time. He's a busy dad. But also, like, it hasn't served him well. And he needs to remove himself from storylines and narratives and all that. but I'm like, well, now you've done that, but you also have published pages and pages of text messages with Housewives for your books.

Right. And they weren't getting a percentage of that book. And what are they going to do? If they complain, they don't get cast into the next Ultimate Girls trip. Well, Lisa Rina is the only one who complained, but she's like, I'm not going back to Housewives. Yeah, but no, others have complained, but they did it quietly.

Oh, really? Yeah, because of that reason. You're like, that's, you know, you speak up. and it's the kind of job that we don't have to invite you back if we think you're going to be troublesome. See, that's what I think what happened is when Leah kind of realized like because she was like sick on the Thailand ultimate trip, Leah McSweeney, and I think she knew like this is over with.

She was kind of like so unnecessarily miserable like that whole time there though. Like I don't like this revision. Not that you're doing this, but there is this revisionist history of like, oh my God, they did it like they did this to where she was sick. And it's like, but she was like miserable the entire time. She was like beef with everybody there. Nobody liked her who was there. So I, by the way, I am not like on Leoside.

I'm just saying what the lawsuit is. I personally think it'll be very interesting if she prevails. Does he have to be there? Would he have to go? I think right now is like the discovery of like just how they were, just when they thought like the Justin and Blake were going to go to trial. And it was like, oh my God. Like is Taylor Swift going to have to be on the stand?

Are they going to actually. read the text, like the dragons. Like, I was like, part of me is tired of the story and wants it to end, but part of me knows this is going to be really good like content to talk about. And I think that's the same thing. So they said they're going to trial.

They're getting it all together. However, they certainly could come to her and be like, here's a check. I just don't want, I don't want Andy to be taken down. I've decided this. No, I don't want any of me to be taken down. But I do fear for the day that like, he obviously will get a replacement, not a replacement, like if he retires or something.

I'm like, I don't want anyone else to do this job. Like, when someone said Jeff Lewis, I was like, no. And when someone said Jerry O'Connell, I was like, also no. And I'm just like, no. I just feel like he just, he has these women by the balls. First of all, I don't think it's a difficult job. I think he could do it until he's like 75, 80 if he wants. Right.

It's not that time consuming. It seems to be working fine with the kid's schedule. The only reason he would leave as I think if he just literally was like so over it and so bored and couldn't even like get himself excited. But I would tell him just like if Sheena would have called me, don't do it. We all have those moments where we're like,

I want to quit this life. Don't. Look at some other lives. Don't quit it. I did not believe she did that over a comment. I don't know if I believe that story. Like she read that comment. She just said, no, I'm not going to be in the valley.

Like, really? And Lala's going to be there? And like without me? And we have this major beef going on. That I can't get behind. There's no fucking way that some random rod on TikTok said you're going back to high school. You know what I think it is, though? I feel like Shina saw that Stasi would easily distance herself and is rebranding.

And maybe that's Shina's plan. So I feel like maybe that's what she thought. But, you know, you weren't like a Stasi. So I don't know. Yeah. It's, we'll see. But Sheena's whole brand is being cringe. So that's why I'm like, how could you let this girl like talk you out of your brand?

Right. That's what I think. That's why I was like when I heard that, I just kind of was like, this should be a lesson to everybody that lets the haters get in their head. Because sheena would fit in the valley. Nobody, you know, nobody less attractive than you is, sorry, nobody more attractive than you. you is going to say you're ugly. No one, you know, like no one more, whatever it is. The more successful people, the more everything, they're not going down.

So it's always someone that's writing these awful things and doing these things. They don't have much going on. They're anonymous, whatever. And so, you know, but it's a good lesson to be like, but also she's probably like, no, I'm doing great. I have all these other things going on. We're fine financially. I love not having the stress of it.

I believe that too. Yeah, I believe that too. You know, I mean, psychologically, I think it's like a lot. But I feel like she, she loves being famous. She does. I saw her Coachella in VIP and she was trying to be seen. I loved it. Now, what is trying to be seen?

I know. I know. Someone told me. So I read somewhere. She was doing the Sheena Shea thing. She was like her selfie was out. Like no one was around her. Brock was like, you know, in the background.

Like she wanted to be noticed. It was, which is fine. I do the same thing. I'm like, look at me, look at me. I also think you're out and you have to get the content. Why are you going if you're not going to like film a million things? But I love that about her. I can just tell it Sheena Shea.

I know what she's doing, but it's like, you know, I love that she's committed to that. She's always super nice to people who come up to her. There's not like a bad I met Sheena Shea story. So I think that says a lot too. She takes the Kim Kay approach. Yes. Yeah. You know.

Yeah. I like that. Yeah. That's why I'm disappointed she's not on the Valley. I think Lala and like Schwartz being on the Valley is kind of gimmicky. We'll see. Let's get into the Valley since we're talking about the Valley. Oh, by the way, J-Lo completely had a boob job.

You think so? 100%. Actually, she definitely did. And I'm like all for it. She looks great. She looks incredible. She had very small boobs before. Then I think she got a mini one like 15 years ago, 20 years ago.

But this one is 100%. This is not the boobs that she's. had two years ago. Again, who cares, but I'm sorry, I'm going to point it out. The dress, she looks amazing. She looks incredible. So she has some new movie TV shit called Office Romance. I already predicted what the, what the storyline would be, and I can't wait to watch it and see if I was correct. I want her to fuck that guy. In real life. Yeah. There's supposed rumors that there was something. Yeah. Because he's obsessed with everything she does. He knows all her movies and stuff, and I feel like she loves someone who's obsessed with her. I mean, this is such a

a good dress. I love Jay-L, I've said this a million times, I love J-Lo's looks so much. I love her face. I love her skin. I love her new boobs. Joice has good jewelry. Yeah, I don't care. I got Dorit's book. How is it? Because I want to, I want to do the audiobook. You absolutely should do the audio book. Um, I've only read some. I'm going to give a more detail. I'm going to read more. I'm a real hardcore detailed review of it, the good, the bad, the boring. On my Patreon this Friday. I started reading some of it yesterday.

Of course, I got right to like the housewives parts. And what'd you say? Well, first of all, it is well written. And however she's a very traveled woman. She knows the world. This is my doll. I'm sorry. She can't do anything wrong by me.

So, I mean, what I think is she got with her ghost writer and they sat down and just did long form interviews and all that. and then this was a very talented writer that definitely put it in her voice of the way she speaks. And in doing it, there are like some sort of life lessons that are like, it's an interesting,

as someone who is interested in reality TV and the way these things are, I do kind of like that she kind of goes into like the psychological of like, you're in a scene and you want to be in the moment, you're talking, but then you also like know

that it's like a 3D thing that then this one line that had not been filled and not part of a show and I always say this would never be an issue among women at a luncheon the next time you see them

two weeks at someone's birthday it would never be brought up again it wouldn't be a big thing but that's the point of the show which then also sometimes the more people like dissect it I also feel like the more it becomes unfun

for viewers. You think so? For me a little bit maybe just because I've been in it so long. Like when people are on Reddit and on TikTok. No, when someone really like breaks it down, I always call it like magic revealed. Like sometimes I don't want to know how the magic was made.

Oh, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she's not telling like producer's secret. She's just really saying like, why some dumb line that you wouldn't think that much of then becomes some big storyline that then like continues to haunt you and then you know, like because.

And you're like, I was just like, drunk at lunch. Yeah. Yeah. She does. She talks about the, you know, you're a stupid cunt, Camille. Okay, well, that is crazy. See, that's why I can't with some of the Housewives books. It's all revisionist history. Lisa Rina's book on the Housewise part is a little bit revisionist of her being a monster. And then she, like, she's like, oh, but my mom died. And it's like, yeah, that's sad. But it's like, okay, but you were a monster. Like, it wasn't being, like, I don't know. So I feel like that, like, when, if you called anyone a stupid cut at dinner, like, I don't know, Doree. Like, that, you should have,

No, that would be a line. Well, like, I just saw that she was on Lala's podcast, and Lala's like, yeah, I can relate to you because you were. And I've said this, too, in that going through this, like, awful divorce separation, whatever, and being a bitch when you're with your friends, like, if someone was going through a horrible divorce and then going to work at the accounting firm, they would probably be on edge and bitchy too. Yeah. You know what I mean? And you would not see a great side of them ever. Like, I think everything she handled, like, I think she handled everything great.

I feel like I don't know why people expect her to kiss everybody's ass. Like, everyone, Erica Jane was, like, being an absolute menace to society when it came crashing down on her. And I don't know why Derreet wasn't afforded the same grace. And I also do feel, like, Erica Jane, like, she was trying to save her job and, like, came for her at the last possible second. I feel like she was just crying at the table because she knew she, like, fucked it over with Derreep. But there was no going back and Durit was pissed off. Like, like, I'm sorry. Like, I just feel like...

Well, I mean, also the other thing is people always go storyline in this season and last season. And it's like, but in everyone's offense, it still is their life. Right. And someone's divorce, some people's divorce is going for 10 years. And it does get tiring for the friend and it is hard. And maybe you want to move back, retreat a little bit from it because it's so much negativity. But that's your friend. But then you have to film the show.

Right. So then you're like, oh, let's get on. to it. Let's get on with it. And it's like, well, we're not going to get on it because that's on real life. But then it's like the audience is like, oh, your lesbianism was last year. Oh, no, already. And it's like, well, like, sorry.

Like, Kyle, first of all, Kyle is not even talking about her lesbianism. I don't talk about anything. The fact that she gets mad at Doree, I'm like, Kyle, I don't even really know why you divorce Maricio. I don't know if you're a lesbian or not. Like, there are so many unanswered questions with Kyle. And I

get so confused. I'm like, Kyle, like, Kyle, like, you haven't told us a thing. How are you on this show still? Like, I have to guess everything that goes on in Kyle's life. Like, it's so bizarre. Yeah. And, like, also, everyone knows about Morgan Wade. Like, why do you give a fuck what Morgan Wade thinks?

She's not doing this job. You're doing this job. Tell everyone who ate her pussy or not. And we could all move on. I would be... I don't understand that. I literally do... You said, oh, I had a conversation with my kids about, you know, the state of the situation.

I'm like, you mean you liking a woman? Like, tell us what that is. I hate when people dance around topics. She really did dance around. them because I remember she was like, and I just said, you know, because of this situation, there's people that are talking about the situation. That maybe this could happen. And how does that make you feel that people are talking about this situation?

And they're like, we love you the same mom. God, I'm so proud of you. I'm like, yeah, you still didn't come out. You still didn't admit to anything. It was more like, I had a conversation. I think she should just be like, listen, I don't know if I'm a. lesbian or not and that's why I don't say anything. Like I just had a crush on this one woman and like that's why this is odd for me. I mean, I kind of feel like she has sort of said that. She basically

said I was with this person and they didn't want to be on camera and they didn't want me talking about them and therefore, you know, and then Eric is like, I'd protect that person without my life. Like, so that was, I feel like that was her. Like if you can't figure that out, then you weren't watching the show. That's true. So I feel like that was her giving it to us. Yes. But I also felt like she brought Morgan Wade into our lives. And also my other thing with Morgan Wade is like, why don't you want to be talked about? No one knew who you were before Kyle Richards brought you on the scene. And now everybody knows who you are.

Like, why is this bothering you? I don't think she, I also don't think, like, I don't know. I also just don't think she wants to be like in a committed or, you know, I think this is also her way, Morgan to be. She's like, I can't. single but maybe like still have a lot of fun times with Kyle but also like I don't want I don't want I don't want I don't want you to think I'm your person forever you're 23 years older than I am I'm a country singer you're married you're on this show and you're still in love with your husband yeah I like having an audience but I don't want to see a bunch of Karen's in my audience I want I want a different audience than the housewives audience listening to my music do you think again I'm dumb take every audience member don't ever shit on the audience no one ever knew like exactly

you were ever yeah yeah um do you think that Kyle and Marisao aren't getting a divorce because they don't want to split the assets 100% yeah that's what I think too like I feel like Kyle like it's just it's just scary and hard yeah and it's just like I think it's just procrastination

and it's like I just I I think they're both just like I don't want to lose like three years of my life in something that could turn so ugly. And seeing like what Dorek goes through and stuff would make me go fuck it. Like if we're getting along and I'm

sitting in the Encino house and I'm like, hey, are you going to Lake to this weekend? You're not, okay, good. I'm going to go with my girlfriend. Like we I think they were kind of living separate lives for years. Years you think. In the sense that like

he's opening up these agencies if he gets a little something on the side, what do I know? He's not catching feelings for anybody, but I've kind of lost respect for him. Now I'm sober. Now I slip into this hot lesbian girls thing. And I'm kind of just thinking, that's what I just think. I just think it was like her midlife crisis, self-discovery, awakening, sobriety, all of it. And I've said this for like a year now. I think they're, one of them will file when they fall in love with someone else and that someone else is like, you need to get divorced.

Or we wanted to walk around public. You think what? I thought they were going to get back together for a second. You know, I always, okay, so you know I love Lucy, right? Yes. It's okay. I've heard of her. I do.

I've heard of the doll. Okay, so I Love Lucy was a TV show. They were like the first sitcom people. And she was this actress comedian and she fell in love with this guy, Desi. And he was like the brains behind it. And they were both on it. And it was like, but he was a cheater. It was a Cuban hot guy.

And he cheated on her all the time. and they got divorced. But like the last video of them together is they're with their grandkids, like in the pool. And just like being family. She got married to somebody else. She had like another sitcom after that in color that like wasn't that great. But she always like spoke highly of him even though he was a cheater on her.

And it was like, I think there's like that. So yes, do I think they could end up together? Yes. I think they could like never get divorced and then be like grandparents together. Yeah. And it's more of like a friendship. Isn't that kind of sad though? I think about this.

Like isn't that kind of sad? It kind of, I don't want to say it like sounds pathetic. But it's like, oh, like I'm just like, it just feels like she's on his time. Like, you know? Yeah. And she's just like waiting in the wings. I don't know if I like that. I mean, it's really interesting because it's like I've talked to other.

I have talked to other women. another major housewife. I'll just say it was Luann. And Loua Ann, one time we had this conversation probably like 10 years ago, so she was already divorced from the count. And she just kind of was like, you know, I would have stayed married and I would have, we could have had like a situation.

A situation ship or, you know, same time next year, whatever with someone. And, like, you know, now I think maybe she doesn't feel that way. You know, I think she's had a great life now that it's been a long time. But I think there's people that just think, like, maybe this could work out if we just hold out. Well, that makes me feel like, I don't know. It is weird, though, because it's like, yeah. So is monogamy out?

Like, do we just, like, is it real? You tell me you're married, right? Yeah, it's hard. So, like, do you, like, think that? Like, if your husband cheated on you tomorrow, would you just, like, stay with him? because of like the history and like it's easy? I know. I can't, I don't know.

I mean, I can't say anything until it like happens. Or do you think people are just meant to be together forever? Like some people are just really meant to be and some people are just meant to be there for a little bit. And then like you just divorce. I just, I think every every marriage is totally different and you just can't compare yourself to one other person. And where one couple thrives in one particular way, you know, and you look at another couple and he's so into her. her. They're more affectionate or more loving. But then she's annoyed with him because he doesn't fix anything around the house. Like, I don't know.

It's just, it's just what. Everything's like, I can see why people are moving away from it. Because, because we live for so long. And you're just kind of like, I don't, you know. And do you think people are just lazy like in this modern day, like people don't want to work on anything? Yes. Yeah. And I think they get married really young too. So that's also plays a factor. Who gets married young? I feel like some people get married at like 23. Like all the secret lies in Mormon lives.

They all fucking hate their husbands because like they didn't know who they were when they married them. And now they're all getting their frontal lobes. And now they're all reality stars. And they're like, wait, oopsies. I actually don't subscribe to this. Like, but we have kids and we have to make it work because we're mom talk. And I'm the breadwinner and they're all pissed off. And it's like, why the fuck are you mad?

She dances for five seconds. You have five mil. So I have no idea. I definitely feel like there's a movement of like people going back to getting married really young. like your first person is your wife and that whole trad wife and marrying young and being like, hey, the best people are the ones you meet in college, like grow on to that one.

You're not going to, you know, it's going to be hard playing the field and try to find the right one at 31. Like there's some truth to that. And then... Yeah, the older you get, your options are limited. Yes, and like the best ones do get taken and all that. But then I also... But I feel like then there's this also where like

then there gets this play. where like nobody's getting together or getting married so it's very different yeah okay we'll finish up on the valley how are you feeling

we talked a little bit she knows not on it but like how are you feeling about the season there's like 16 people on this guy I know there's a lot of people okay I feel like this show

is just like really depressing like it's just not like it doesn't make talking about why you don't get married this is why this is why this Is birth control right here? Like, they should put this in the schools.

Like, I'm not even kidding. Like, I see all these people, I'm like, don't want this life. Like, it doesn't even make me want to live in the valley. I'm like, as someone who lives in L.A., I'm like, oh, God, can't go anywhere near where these people live. Like, all their lives are sad. No one is having fun. Like, the only fun people are Zach Wickham and Jasmine, but that's because they're, like, living an untraditional fun. Not untraditional, but you know what I mean?

Like, he's gay. He's, like, fun. And, like, the gays are having fun. Yeah. The gays are having fun, but everyone else straight is having a miserable life. Like, and it's like, it's poetic, honestly. It's, like, I hate it. Like, I watch it and I can't talk about it because I'm like, I can't be people like live like this.

But I know it's not everyone. It's just this batch of people. Yeah. And it's sad. It's really sad. I mean, I think they have the best marriage, honestly. Wait, who? Janet and Asian Spice over here.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I forget his name. And I've met him like 10 times. Jason. Yeah. Oh, Jason. I agree.

I think they, um, they get along well. Um, I, yeah, I agree. It's just. And then Michelle's always sad and she was like, and then they always do things. They go to like San Diego and I'm like, oh, God, why are we going? Like, I hate their trips. Nothing's luxurious.

That house was like, whatever. And like, the babies are crying. They're arguing about who's going to put the baby down. Who has the milk? putting on wits. Oh my God. It looks also fucking miserable. I couldn't, it could not. I just, that just stresses me out. It's like,

it's just like a sad. It's sad. And then you, I'm not, see, if I were Andy Cohen, I would hate this shit having to talk with them and like, they just make it all look so miserable. And it's like, why did you all decide to procreate? I know, I don't know how to make it. I don't know. Like, I am watching it. Um, but it is kind of, it is, like, well, I have to ask you, is it sad, but it's real, um, you know, I mean,

the things that they're, that they talk about are realistic in that like, yes, you know, people struggle after a baby, but I do also feel like in my day, we either didn't know that we had that option to say that we had postpartum. I'm not saying it's not real. I just feel like we just went. Yeah. Yeah. And like did it because you have to do it. And so because that's like, you know, a point you could go, I have this depression of after having the baby. Then we have to see it. Yeah, it's.

I like that they talk about that. Yeah. It's like, I mean, I just think it's also really hard. Like you're, you just had a baby and there's cameras everywhere and you have this tiny place. And your husband is a fucking imbecile. Which one? Danny. Yeah.

Honestly, all of them. I mean, the houses are small. And so can you imagine like, like, you know, like, you know, like, you're, you have a baby, you have this person, your tit is, is hurting, you're trying to breastfeed. The cameraman comes in, he's sweating because it's the valley,

the air conditioning broke. And you're like fighting. And then it's just like, and then you have to look back at it six months later and be like, oh my God. I was so overweight, I hated my body. Like all that part is true. I don't know, like,

I get why they did it. Like this is a part of it. I'm kind of like, for reality, I don't know. It's too real almost. Maybe it's like, I feel like if you had choices to walk, you can watch the young sexy people boning on Love Island, or you could watch the old sexy people. Not boating, it seems, actually.

Or boning, or boning like the golden life or whatever we're going to see with like the art classic ladies, you know, of Real Housewives of New York. or like this middle time, but the middle town of like when people had husbands and younger kids, like when housewives first started, like when Beverly Hills and New York first started, that was like the perfect.

Like 42 years old is the perfect age to start your reality show career. Yeah, because you've lived like life. 30s is an awkward time. It's just, yeah, it's kind of hard. You're in this in between of like, am I going to make it, am I not? Like your 20s are for build.

and your 30s are for stabilizing, and then your 40s are for like, oh, well, this is it, girl. It's either we're up and we're stuck. And I just think with Nia and Danny, I think it's just really hard because it's like, now she's making the money, probably more in money with the influencer stuff,

but they're on this show. But then if they leave this show, it's going to affect their status on these deals, which pays for everything. Right. But he's an actor, but he's really good and besides voiceover now, now once someone becomes an established face on a reality show

no one's hiring them to be an actor again no because it would take you immediately out of it so now he's not he's kind of fucked his acting career but being on this so they better stay on it they better make this work and I think all of that is extra stress yeah and I heard the show might get canceled or paused where did you hear that it's the rumor but I mean if it did like would you be upset

Well There's nothing aspirational about it I think that's the problem of why I can't get behind it Even Van der Pump rules have this cunty undertone Of like yeah we're degenerates But like you know we're at this restaurant And we're making it work Well the Vanter Pump rules was fun

Because it was like they're aspiring actors Working at a restaurant who got to be on a TV show Yeah So it was kind of like low To see them like sling drinks But like be like oh we get to go to the okay magazine party Like you know what it is

It's low stakes for that And then when they're really rich and they get divorced like Bronwyn on Salt Lake City it's like yeah but you're gonna be fine yeah you're because you're 45 and rich

there's something really sad to think if these couples don't make it and we've already seen two couples get divorced since first season and share the child and it's fine if they get along but there's something

and then I guess there's something aspiration about knowing that like hey don't stay in a miserable marriage you could both be happy with someone else there's that but I don't I don't know. I think that's all the feelings you get when you're watching it. And it's just not as like fun, I think, what it is. It's like triggering all different things, you know? So who would you think is next to get divorced? I think they're going to stay together. I think

they would stay together, at least for a long time. They have that whole Christian propaganda thing. Well, it's just so hard with four kids. I mean, talk about not wanting to like, if someone's going to suck it up, it's going to be her. But will it be, we got to get off the show. Because you came off like such a dick that now we have to get off the show so that we can protect the image. I would say, don't do that. Don't. The image has already been destroyed.

And now you can course correct. Yes, what you need to is stay on it and really change your ways. Yeah. And make us fall in love with you, Danny. Yeah. And stay on the show and make your money. And be nice to your wife. Yeah.

Go to church. Feed your kids. when she asked you for help, don't roll your eyes until the cameras leave your house. Like that was just, I'm like, hold your baby, dude. I just, I wonder if anybody on this show is like blaming the other for doing it. You know, because like even in Doreet's thing, she said, you know, it was P.K. That maybe Doreet didn't say it, but they've said it in interviews. PK.

said, coming from England, I knew the only way to make it in LA is fame, power, or money. And we didn't have that much money at the time. Oh, I like that she admitted that. No, that's what Piquet said. Oh. I didn't have that much power at the time. I didn't have power. So it was fame.

And, you know, we knew we do Lisa Vanderpump and the opportunity came up. And he said you should do it. Doree. You're great. you're beautiful, this will be so great. And then she was like, I never chased that limelight. I didn't watch the show.

She did say this in the book. I hadn't watched the show. I met Lisa Vanderpump because we shared a villa for somebody's wedding and liked them fine. And then when I got put on the show, like she had a party and I walked in and their cameras were there and it was a little awkward. But then I got used to it. And like that was that.

So that is true. She was not looking to be like famous. And then you are, which is also really. interesting. So it's like, I wonder if in this, in a marriage like then, you know, with Doreet and Piquet, was she ever like, I never even wanted to go on the show. And then he'd be like,

well, you fucking changed, didn't you? Yeah, that's so annoying. You can't have about spending all this money and now it's all about spending this money and you think everyone, I'm not one of your fucking assistants, like, who knows what their fights are because of the show? Right. And then it's like, so I hope with Nia and Danny that

they do work through it, you know, and realize like, hey, We fell in love at one time. We did love each other. We did respect to it. Now we were on the show and we've agreed to be on the show. And the toothpaste is out of the tube. So now what the fuck do we do?

Going away and holding hands at, like, you might as well just stay in it and make more money. And go to therapy sessions. And that can be your storyline. We're in therapy because he talks about like, yeah, no, milk it. Yeah. I think that's why she really didn't get on the Valley because she revealed that Brock had that affair. And I feel like the big hot wind. And then they were like, well, you didn't really share that on Vanipump rules.

So why would we put you on the valley and you're not going to tell us about your shitty marriage as well? But no, it's... I thought that she did share it in the book and, you know, because she wanted to share it, which is fine and I appreciated that she shared it.

But also, and that was a really juicy part of the book. But also like, yeah, now we have to recover again because now the world knows. Like, we already recovered what had happened, but then we agreed I'm going to tell it. Like, that's, we could have seen it.

Yeah. Or maybe again, in trying to make lemonade out of it being like, you know what, it's better that we're not on camera for like a couple years to see if we can like work this out. That's what I think Kyle and Amanda should have done last season. I was like, I feel like they should get off Summer House to like really see if they should be married. Yeah. And like really make it work.

Well, when you sit down and you're like, okay, if we go off the show because of our relationship, you're both like not in love enough to give up the fame and the fun summer. And that tells you the answer. Yeah. The money of it, are you really willing to give up the money and the fame and what, like, because it's one of those things where you can't, it's really, I think it's really hard if you take the break, you know, from it. Like, it's the consistency that, like, keeps people going.

Yeah. So, you know, even like with all the stuff, speaking of social media, like, I just have to stay consistent. You wanted to tell everybody you have a fun way to get to know more about you. exclusively. Yes, I've launched my pop culture substack, Farai, unfiltered. We are live. We were talking all things, Bravo, all things pop culture, all things Love Island. And it is at feri-benet.substack.com. If you want three exclusive videos for me a week, you can do the paid tier and you get a cute little newsletter on Fridays. But if you, if the economy's hearts, if you want to do, like,

if you want to do the free version, you can get one video on Wednesday and previews of paid clips and then an occasional newsletter when I feel like giving it to you. But yes. But it's just $5. It's just a measly $5. So like, yeah. So come join us. We're having so much fun over there. And I'm excited. Like we're just talking like this. We're just talking like dolls, talking like girls, just being fun and cut to you. Before I was dying and you were like, Ariana is what? She's what? She's what? She's what? She's what? When you said that. So now it's really turned into the vernacular. It's like a very positive thing now. Was it ever negative? Oh, in your day, It was a negative.

Well, I mean... Yeah, it's like, there's a bitch and then there's... See you next Tuesday. Like, it means you're a way worse. Like, you're really awful. That's what it means. You're really mean.

You're really mean. You're really vindictive. You're like really like... Oh, now it's like you're a star. You've got it. You're powerful. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Like, you're... Yeah. The whole eight thing, too, she ate. I think that's such a weird expression that took up. I love it. There's no other way to describe. Well, I always think it's... I still think it's confusing because, like, you'll see somebody in, like, in a social media thing.

And they're walking and, you know, like, Heidi Kloom has gained a few pounds, which is completely fine. But someone wrote, like, she ate. And I was like, that's so fucking bitchy. And I was like, oh, no, they're saying she looks great. Yeah. They're saying she. And I was like, oh. So I don't use that expression.

I post it on my story. I feel like it doesn't feel natural to me, you know, to be like, you know, I'm still like old school. Like, she got served. I posted up my story of Ariana doing her like walk on Love Island. I was like, she's eating. She responds. She's like, I-L-I. And you guys, I'm going to tell a very juicy story on my Patreon this Friday.

Heather MacDonald.net, you join the Patreon there. I did a crazy thing on a movie set. I need to tell you about. I will review Doreet's book. It's going to be a good one. And I'll tell you about my Hollywood party I went to. I have some good stuff that it just, that's what I do on my Patreon.

It says the juicier podcast. There you go. The juicier, juicier, juicier scoop. The juicier, more personal, like, secrets. All right, bye.