Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Luke & Sassy on Selena Gomez, Pranks, and Sibling Rivalry

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

I’m joined by the hilarious Australian sibling duo, Luke and Sassy! These brothers took TikTok by storm with their outrageous pranks and hysterical takes on the everyday things that drive them nuts, from ordering a simple cup of coffee to surviving each other. They’ve become such a massive hit that even Selena Gomez became an instant mega-fan, flying them out just to hang out with them! Their crazy behind-the-scenes stories had me laughing with glee, and I know you’re going to be crying tears of laughter right along with us. -Sleep cooler this summer with Boll & Branch. Get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at ⁠bollandbranch.com/juicyscoop⁠ with code juicyscoop. -Make your summer wardrobe feel easier. Go to ⁠Quince.com/juicy⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. -Go to ⁠RO.CO/JUICYSCOOP⁠ to see if you qualify. -Go to SMILESET.com/juicyscoop to get started. Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/juicycrimes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/juicyscoop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopTZFUvAeokrJJ6dQ5wuAW1T3nssO6pHk47u7KymJUBtBgKCvfX⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Heather McDonald has got the juices scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know she talks Hollywood Tales for real life Mr. Sagan's serial data and serial sister. You'll be addicted and addicts it fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen. Heather McDonald's Juicy Scoot. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoot.

Scoop, get ready for a fun one. I have international delights. From Australia, world renown, everybody wants them as their best friend, friends. We're talking to brothers.

Luke and Scott, also known as Luke and Sassy. Hey, Heather. I didn't think you needed to correct yourself when you said friends because normally it is just friend with me. No, it's normally wants Scott as a friend. No, it's not. It's because Luke controls the accounts and I don't have access to any of them so people by default have to talk to him to get

to me. So let's talk a little bit. Let's talk about your dynamic. Yeah. You are not a gay, incestual brother couple that does Instagram and OnlyFans, correct. We are brothers, not lovers. And so nothing incestual. I know, I'm joking. That shit happens. We have to put it in. our bio brothers not lovers. Like, it is very common. There were people online. Scott's got two twin sons. Yes. And they think that we went into this together.

They think I was also the father. One of the fathers of my two children. Two brothers have had twins. They're like, who are we to judge? We're like, you should judge somebody that does that. Of course. But that is always like, I always feel like, that is something that I have been intrigued about when it's identical twin brothers that then

do porn. It's common. It's common. And then also they made it a little bit of a storyline in White Lotus this year. Did you see White Lotus this year? Yes, that was question. That was tough. Yeah. There's these rock star, Aussie, twin, identical singers. We love them, right?

And they're musicians and part of their thing is, you know, and they've had a phenomenal career, the Veronica's. I'm not sure if you've come across them. Yes. And, you know, we were recently with them. And, you know, part of their set, like at one of their songs, they finish like holding hands. It's like this power bitch kind of move. And we were with them recently. And I was like, if Luke ever touched me, I'd punch him in the throat. Like, how do you allow your sister or your sibling to like hold hands?

Like, that is not our relationship or our other brothers. I know it's not. That is all talking. Yes. Luke just touched my lap if you listen. No, I think it's so, it's so true. And it's so funny. Like, you know.

the property brothers, a lot of people thought the property brothers, you know who they are. They're identical twins and a lot of people thought were a couple that just started to morph into looking like each other. But they're not. They're married to women. But they flip houses, which is pretty gay. We just flipped his house. And I'm pretty gay. So there it is. So let's get a little, first of all, you guys are young guys. I'm not going to ask your age because this is Hollywood and that's rude to do. I'm 35. Scott's 55. I know I look so good, don't I? Luke is younger, right?

I am 35 Luke. So you're younger brother? Correct. And how much older are you? Five years older. I'm 40 and there's two other brothers. There's four boys in our family. And what numbers are you?

I'm number two. However, I feel like I'm call it the Kim of the family. Like I carry all of them. Right. Even mom and dad. And essentially you are the Kim because Courtney is the older one. However, look at all the bumpers. Because on this non-Bentling.

It's like a Kia. He's talking about all the tats. Do you have any tats? I've got a few on the leg, yeah. Okay. I'm also a Kia. What's a Kia? You remember how Kim Kardashian-Rash?

I didn't know if it was some Australian thing. Oh, Hyandai we can do. Hyandai? It's weird. Whenever I tried to do an Australian accent, I always have to say the word weird, because I think you guys say it away. Weird. Weird.

I always remember I was trying to do Nicole Kidman and to like have a character. She has transatlantic accent. But the only thing I had, because this was so long ago, you couldn't just, like, go on YouTube back then. This was a really long time ago, and I was trying to create characters. And, yes, it was a thing. And Oprah had a TV show. So I taped her on Oprah, and it was right after Tom Cruise dumped her, and she was blindsided. And it was like he dumped her, like, a month before the 10 years I was up, where, when it's, sometimes that happens, so you don't have to pay as much.

And she just kept going, you know, Oprah is weird. Weird. And I was just like, weird. I don't really do a good Australian, but weird. I might have it down after today talking to you guys. Well, you know, they say to get there to start speaking with an Australian accent as an American, say no. No. No. No, you are. N-A-U-R. No. There it is. Oh, yeah, that is great. That's how you started. Our mom just then yelling at us. No. That's how you get an American to start getting the sounds out. I love it. Okay, so I want to hear a little bit about your childhood. Okay, so you were the Kim, you were number two. What's up with one and three? Are they not funny? Are they, do you not like them? You leave them out of the fun?

One of them, I think, is funny as fuck. I can swear on your show, go. Yes. Good, great. Luke, I say, is the least one that I would have thought I would have had to have spent all of this time with now. Like, we're contracted to be together all the friggin' time. So what, you're number three? He's number four. Four, so there is a brother between you. Yeah. He's the one I would have wanted to like have this with. Really? Yeah. And how?

Which makes no sense to me. He just was, he was like my special brother. He's gay. We used to party together. You have two gays and two streets. Me and Patrick are gay. And we used to just have a lot of wild fun together. So I think that's why the fantasy.

Listen, Patrick's on his own journey. I don't think he is at all. They're pretty like, the family's pretty supportive. A lot of them are like, we knew Scott would end up there. We just didn't know Luke would be sitting next to me. Scott didn't have the cognitive function to get himself into this position by himself. Like he's not going to be technology. So how did you guys?

I know that you kind of popped off during TikTok and what was really, what was it that you started to do it, saw that it got traction and that like, wait a minute, this is really fun and we could actually make this profitable. Well, it was during COVID and in Melbourne, Australia where we're from, there was a massive lockdown there was the most lockdown city during the. the time in the world. So the house I was in, I was in a rental that got sold and I needed to go somewhere to go live. So then fast forward, I'm at Scott's house. I had the nice house in the pulse. It was like, I'm going to live with him. And you will not be arrested because it's 2026.

Did you, before going to his house, do like a 10 day in a hut by yourself to make sure that you were not bringing any germs with you? No. No. I was working in a hospital. So I'm a radiographer for working in a public hospital. So I had germs everywhere. I was bringing him to him. I didn't care about it. And didn't matter. So you're like, okay, fine.

And even though I was still working, I was pretty fortunate back then. There was a lot of people that weren't able to work. They're losing jobs. But I still was able to go to work. However, I still wanted to do something. There was still something that I needed to get out. And then that was through social media.

I always wanted to make content. Just didn't know what to make content about. I didn't want to be the face of anything. Then I'm living with Scott. I'm happy to. And I leave a towel on a ground and he's squint. wheeling like, ah, there's a towel. It's got to ruin my rug. And I would just film those interactions. And at that time, five, six years ago, were you already married and were your kids already

born? Kids weren't there. My husband and I've been together 13 years. Kids only came along two and a half years ago. Oh, so they're little. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And they were born in Texas. Awesome. Yeah. So fast forward, I uploaded one video and it did really well online. I think it got over a million views overnight. And I was like, ooh, gave me a little buzz. I'm like, I want to do that again. Didn't change the recipe. Just changed. And it was me and my wedding. And it was the way I responded to it. So our celebrant accidentally pronounced me and my husband, husband and wife. And I went, whoa. And I went viral video. And then so he just kept putting it up online and people just had this huge response towards us. And then the rest was history. He started pranking me and fucking here we are.

Let's quickly just tell the day in the life of when Selena Gomez decided she also wanted to be the sister in the family. And let's just hear about that. So I'm laying on the couch one day. Selina had already started following us and she was commenting on quite a few of our videos. And then one day I'm half asleep on the couch on my phone. I get a DM and I'm like, oh, here we go. And then it's her team, rare beauty.

Everyone's just copied in together. And they're like, hey, Selena's got some time in a few days. She would love to meet you guys. are you open for it? In Australia. So we're in Melbourne, Australia right now. And I was like, what the fuck? So I called Scott.

No. Oh, no. Okay, continue. So I'm calling Scott. I'm like, hey, Selena wants to meet us. He was like, fuck off, shit, prank, goodbye. And it's up on me. So I'm like, oh, now I'm going to have to convince him.

It's actually the team. So I'm screenshoting setting. I'm like, no, it's happening. Like, I think they want us to go there next week. So sure enough, I think it was the next day. Black cars arrived, picked us up, put us on a plane, straight to L.A., Straight to.

First class, it is of course. And hang on, no, you know what? I was. Not a private plane or first class. No, I wasn't traumatic. No, you're going to like, I, they booked us business next day. It was next day. And I went, I don't fly United.

I'm not getting on a United fucking flight. Why? They've canceled. We've had trauma with United. We've not. We don't know why. We've been grounded in America before. You just had, really trauma.

And then they went, no problem. And they put us on Qantas then. The best thing about. I don't know that United Airlines flight was canceled. Yes. Yes. Yeah, it was canceled. The one we were supposed to be on.

And we're like, oh, we knew it. Okay, so you fly there. Fly, we get here to America. Well, you get out at the L.A. So you land in L.A.X and there's more black cars waiting. Customs is like, border, like, border force. Customs was like, what are you doing here? And I was like, I'm here to see Selona, Selina Gomez.

And it was like, I'm sorry, sir. And I'm like, we're here to see Selena. Yeah, you know. And he was like, what? Like, that's your reason. Like your reason for filling out the thing. It was like, business or pleasure. You're like, Selena Gomez.

We look like crazy fans. He's like, I'm sorry, sir. And I'm like, if you got TikTok? He's like, no. And I'm like, Instagram. He's like, no. And I'm like, Snapchat. Like, and he's like, no.

And I was like, you know that song? Like, can't keep my hands to myself. And he was like, what, sir? You can't keep your hands to yourself. He's like, I'm going to need you to keep your hands to yourself. And I was just like, no, that's not what I fucking mean. And then it's like, We're looking at each other.

Mind you, Scott's already gone, leave it with me, don't talk, Luke. Yeah, so I'm just silent. Because coming into America can be quite, it's quite traumatizing. Oh, and you're doing a great job. Right? I'm like, please, trust me, I've got this, Luke.

This car's like going like, help on like kind of nine. I was like, oh, probably on the next United flight home. And then for some reason I went, Selena Gomez. And he was like, like the Disney princess. And we're like, yeah, and he's like, like this, like America's starlet. And I'm like, you're like,

Like, yes. And he's like, you know her? And Luke's like, yeah, like showing the dance. He's like, get on in there, guys. Like, say hi to Selena for me. And then we're like, we get out. I'm like, what did he think I was saying to him? Like, we're speaking two different languages. It was weird. We get in more black cars. Go to this beautiful hotel, get picked up by her team. They takes out to Nobu Malibu because they have to sense check us, right?

Are they the real deal? Are they psychopaths? Or are they what we hope that they are? So they said only Luke can meet her. And then the next day we went to this house and we hung out with her and, you know, she just, the celebrities at her scale that have come into our world, we feel they wouldn't be able to infiltrate or come into it if they weren't the real deal. Yeah. I feel our energy kind of like calls that out or disarms people. Yeah.

And she was just the most gorgeous and is still the most gorgeous supporter of everything we do. That's awesome. She's phenomenal. That's so great. And she's brought us out here again for the Rare Beauty Impact Fund. You know, she, you know, we did a live show. She kicked it off by, like, she does a countdown time out, like to look and say, Scott, live show starts in, like, she does a countdown.

Like, she, anything we've ever asked in terms of support, she's done it. Except for an invite to the wedding. Yeah, that's true. And then when we were actually leaving last time, we saw her, I went, oh, I need to tell you something. The press in Australia are fascinated in our relationship. And I said, so I have to tell you something. I went, I just lie now. And I say to them, our dad, her mum hooked up.

We're actually half siblings. And then the Australian press is like, what? And I'm like, yeah, she's our step-sister. That's like half-sister. And then I say, and then I said to her, and then I just walk out of the interview. And I leave them like, gas-lit. Like, what the fuck? Why didn't we know that?

And she goes, keep telling that story. That's hilarious. And I was like, yay. That's how you know she's. life at one of our people. Yeah. Because she's up for the rat bag. And she walks out of the room, she's like,

get the lawyers on the floor. Shut them down. Well, I loved this one thing coming across your feed that you did this really funny idea where you tell your parent who your parents are great.

We did these, one of us did these bad things growing up that you didn't know about guess which one did it, but they were all fake. So they're just like horrified that they raised like two monsters, they're like, where were we? Like, what do you mean you did this? How did you come up with that idea?

It was a trend. It may have been a trend. It was a trend. Even when there's a trend, how to make it that little bit different and coming up with the fake, that was what's fun. That was really fun. And I remember sitting with you going, I'll never believe this.

But we kind of like would like pepper in a little bit of like we'd bring family friends into it. Like the cat story. Correct. You said like one of us got, what was it? One of us kissed our uncle at it. One of us kissed our uncle at a party at a family party once. And we said the uncle's name to be really specific to make them be like, what?

Right, like this happened. Which one of you did it, let alone this happened? And then we saw this uncle at our dad's 70 years recently. He's like, you don't know what you guys have done at work. Everyone was like, you kiss Sassy Scott. When he was a boy, like we didn't realize. We didn't realize what we had done. We didn't clock what it did to the other side.

And one was just like, Rosemary Jones' cat was not supposed to be let out and one of us let the cat out. Like so, yeah. And then we just lied and said it ran away, but we accidentally let it go or something. But of course, that never happened. No. And I loved it with the dad. It was like one of us would impersonate you to call the school and to complain about teachers. Yes.

And he's like, what? No wonder they kicked me off the board. And like, it was so good. Oh, good. Do you know what's so good about what you're saying right now is everybody we come across always has a different story or video that they respond really well to. Yeah. We were just standing in

is it Laurel? Yes. Yesterday. What a fantastic supermarket. Oh my God. Well, they're copying Airwant, but who cares? Yeah, who cares? It's a lot of Mason Jar products. We're in Hollywood. Everyone copies the same shit. Don't they just do it better? Just put it in front of it. Yeah. But isn't it just

like just beyond? It's phenomenal. Yeah. And there's ethereal Serena Williams like, you know, woman's walking towards me. I said it was Serena. I was like, oh my God, hi. And she goes, I just need to say I'm a huge fan of you and your brother. She's like, what are you doing?

In here, she said, I just have to say that video of when he shaved your dog's hair off or something, she's like, was the funniest. And I forgot that prank had happened. Yeah. Because there's been so many over the years. And everyone you meet has a different one that they love. Yeah. Now, there was another one that you did.

where you took him yelling at you about you drank all the milk and he was really excited to have that melt for an iced coffee which honestly stuff like that I've been married 26 years I'm on your side I'm on your side and I always remember it was my milk I don't care it's my house and you would he would eat everything else he would drink things look was the type that I don't know if he did it on purpose or he is lazy as how that's true so then you put it to a salt

So he has, someone put it to like, I guess it was like, whatever AI song or something, but you put all the words to it and went to a song. And then it just shows you coming out to the pool where he's relaxing, screaming about the milk, the ice coffee is not going to be the same. And, but I was like, I mean, I think you were really mad then. I was mad. You were really mad. Because for days, Luke's the type that would just, he would like prep me before he knew I was going to pop.

He would do lots of little things. So this was a plan out? This was a deliver. You would come for his coffee. So all the pranks early days. Oh, so you don't just do stuff like accidentally and he gets mad? No. Yes, he does, but he doesn't film that.

He knows if he does enough things to get me mad over the week. Like, I'm not going to do a prank right after he's like bought a punnet of roses and he's all happy. Like, I need him already at a lower benchmark. Yeah, so Luke would like leave things around the house and he would go to work for eight hours. And like he was just like messy in my home and really like I had a big problem. Can I just make it clear? I was paying top dollar in rent, by the way. You had a good house.

And, but like, we had a contract. I kicked to Luke out once and I created a contract for him to come back in. And one of the terms, you got lawyers to write a contract. But one of the terms was he would walk into my house and go, oh, your dogs are so annoying. And I'd be like, just pat them and say hello. He's paying me to be a bad guy. They'll be scratching and kissing on me. Yeah, you cannot talk about pets in L.A.

They're happy to see. You better love those dogs. I love the dogs. Okay. I'm like, they're happy to see you. Right. Just say hi to my dogs. Yeah. And so he would not say hi to my dogs.

And then he had spill milk and then he would do something else. And then he knew by the next thing he did, I would be popping off. And that's when he would have the camera ready. Now, I remember one time my daughter said, I was mad about something. And she just, she was young like 12. I've been doing stand-up for a very long time. And, you know, I would talk about my life and stuff in the stand-up. And I was getting mad about something.

and she goes to her younger brothers, don't worry, in two weeks it'll be part of her act and she'll be laughing about it. And I was like, she read, yeah. And I was like, yeah, you're right. That's like the only reason. Like when people are like, oh my God, you've been buried so long. And I remember one time I said to Natasha Lichero, who's a comedian,

I go, well, staying married is kind of my brand. And she's like, yeah. But I was like, yeah, I mean, I think when you can make lemonade out of lemons. And when you're a content creator and whether that's a video or stand-up or whatever, you can't be mad about the milk now.

No, not at all. You're grateful that the milk was drank. I'm grateful? Yes. Yes. Say thank you, Scott. Nope. Griguss believes in the art of living

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Am I appreciative? Yes. That it is, we became the perfect storm. Yes. That's what it was. And that's what it still is. I'm not saying thank you Thank you Your mom is a mother of four boys

Which to a mother of two boys Sounds terrible It's scary I don't know how she got through it I don't know It's boys are wild when they're little They're easier when they're older What

Were they trying for girls Or just finally after you They just said fuck it Mom always said she wanted four boys But I don't know if I've always believed it She's a manifesting mama. Yeah. Yes.

She's like, I just, I just want healthy babies. Well, everyone always says that. No, but she said I had, he's better on the line. I had three brothers, three sisters, and she said, you know, my brothers would smack on and fight, but they would move on with the day. Totally. She said, me and my sisters were so. It's so different. It's so different.

And she just said, I just, I didn't want that in a house again. It's so true. I remember when my sons would fight and stuff. And I'd be like, that's it. You know, you're not playing. together anymore and then they'd be like okay we're fine because like they don't want to not be able to yeah and it's just like it's just so it is such so fascinating like the difference between boys and girls and it has nothing to do with um sexuality it has nothing you have a boy's brain

you have a boy's mentality of like you know getting mad and then getting over it and busting each other's balls in a way that women don't they when women do it it's called mean girls yes you're so wrong I do it. It's just like busting balls, whatever, teasing, and it's like all fine. It's just so, now who is her favorite? It changes, but most of the time would be you. Then you had twin boys and then she loves that. Well, she loves not me. She loves that I've given her children.

She loves you children. But you're also the baby. I'm the baby. Could do nothing wrong. Exactly. I was a very shy, anxious child growing up too. Also, I just think, like, because you kind of have, like, a round face now, it must have been just a very kissable. The rest of us had brown eyes. He had blue-eyed baby.

Oh, my gosh. So I'm the youngest of five, but all of us had brown eyes except for my sister. And my mom made such a big deal about the blue eyes. Like, she put us in, like, matching outfits. And my sister would always get the blue one. And then I'd get what other color was available. And finally, I like, joking, like, because I was, like, basically doing stand-up as young kid, brought that up. and she felt so bad. And then everything that she got me after that was blue or turquoise or whatever.

Because I was like, do you think that people with brown eyes can't wear blue? Like, why are you such a freak? You know? And it was just, yeah. But also being the baby, I remember one time my dad finally like got mad at me for something. And I remember my brothers and all the older kids, they did like a slow like, finally, like clap. Like they get really happy when the youngest one gets in trouble. Because you are the baby.

you don't know any better. Luke didn't even answer the friggin, you know, the landline growing up, like till he was like 16 years of age. A, because I don't think he had to. Right. Like, why the fuck would I get up and answer the phone? Like, no one would be calling for me. Why would I answer it?

Get Scott to get up and get it. Right? Like, it was a laziness and an entitlement. But also, he didn't know how to talk to people. Luke would buckle. Well, I also remember, I remember being young enough that I'm in a high chair. and I remember going like I couldn't say spoon

I'd say poon, poon and then I remember one day I was like I think I know how to say spoon but I was like but why? Because I would just like point and they'd all get me stuff and so then my mom took me to a speech therapist and the guy's like the doctor's like no she can talk

but like everybody's if everyone talks for her and everybody's like catering to me yeah funny that you said that I remember in primary school I was given an envelope I think to a speech therapist and I was like absolutely not and never gave it to mom and dad. It was a big yellow envelope and I was like oh my god they don't think I can speak. That brought back a memory. That's so funny. So you guys had a great time working together. So now tell me a little bit so do you like his

husband? Yeah Marcus. Marcus is awesome. And if he didn't I'd like he'd know what came for him. So I knew what's coming. So I always answer that way. Yes. And so when did but when so when did you come out? I was 24 or 25, which was, which I mean each of their own. We all have our own journey, right, and story. Did you ever think that you could be straight or try to have girlfriends? Yeah. Oh, okay. I've gone down on girls.

I had girlfriends, the hottest ones. Congrats. Well, a lot of gayes don't even try. That's true. I tried and I was good at it. That's good. And I didn't want to be gay. You know, Marcus and I, we always say you can't be what you can't see.

Marcus is my husband. Oh, Marcus. But the other brother in between you. Patrick came out before me. Oh, and how old did he come out? Fuck the world. Watch this. And when he came out, I went, there's this shame.

I went, Mom and Dad can't have two-k sons. So I felt really bad for them. And then so I went deeper into the closet whilst Patrick was flying that flag. And was Patrick like, come on, I think you are too? Or did you, anybody wondering? No, everyone went, huh? We thought it was Scott. but it's Patrick

and then so that kind of took a little bit of like heat off in a weird way but then was there a little bit did he but was it maybe they were too celebratory and then you're like wait I was the first gay yeah Patrick's definitely like oh let's not forget I walked so you could run

type of thing okay so then when did you finally decide to officially say it oh listen it was it was my mental health it all just became like you know it was quite consuming I had a close relationship with a football player.

So somebody played in Aussie rules. A player still never come out, you know, as gay to this day. And there was just too much. And I just remember going, well, this is going to eat me up and consume me. And it was. And I remember thinking, oh, my God, I just want to say something. I shouldn't. You know, like you hear about, I remember clocking, I'm just going to marry a woman.

And I'm just going to fuck a guy once every two weeks, right? And just like keep it, like, behind closed doors. And I just remember thinking, this is crazy. Like I committed to going, that's going to be my life. And then I went, what are you doing? What do you mean you're going to have kids in a pick up white fence? And you're going to fuck a man once every two weeks. Like, what?

And then when I finally came out, it was the best thing I ever did. And your parents had already been very accepting of Patrick? Yes, absolutely. And so, you know, and mom was like, oh my God, like she was more upset. I remember grandma was the biggest supporter at the time, wasn't she? Yeah, grandma was phenomenal. She was like, if anyone got a problem, we'll fuck them up. Oh, geez, I love it.

Yeah. Yeah, she was your ride or die. She was the one you want a little butter knife ready to go at all. Was she the grandma of your dad or your mom? Mom. Nice. Matriarch. Yeah.

Absolute true definition. Meaning of matriarch. Look and I've done live shows and everything. And, you know, the way we honor her who was, she was, call it, she had a mouth on her like a trucker. I love it. I say I'm my grandmother's grandson, not my mother's son. my mom's never said our mom's never said a swear word in her life she never cusses

wow never and we went she'd have four boys that would push her you can imagine yes and we put up content now and it'll be like did you have to use that one of the c word we'll drop it every now and she's just like disgusted yeah we're like mom it's making us money now so you um i was watching going through your stuff and wait i want to go to this wait i want to go back to these um this was kind of an emotional moment that you had on your show and you were talking about Mother's Day and how much you love your mother and being that you are a gay man with a husband and you have these boys, you kind of really broke down. And I thought it was a really vulnerable moment that not a lot of gay parents discuss publicly. Okay. And that there isn't a mother per se a female

that is there to be with your children. And I just thought that was very vulnerable. And really, you want to just kind of explain what you were thinking when you were talking about it. Luke and I blew up really hard on TikTok and we're sharing 1% of who we were in minute videos for so long. And I feel we are quite far more diverse. And there was more we wanted to say and do and share.

And we've got stories for days, right? and we love the entertainment factor and I love vulnerability as well and especially in men and I love, I stand up for women no matter what, right? Like I will back the woman and believe her first and foremost all the time.

Why? Because history fucking shows that we should. And I said actually to Joe last night at a dinner that actually when I was being called the, like a gay slur in the clubs or whatever, partying, it was my girlfriends that would like jump and glass a guy. You know, it wasn't my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my friends that were, like, that were, like,

disarm it. It was always women that had my back. And, you know, we found ourselves one day, my husband and I, I clocked that, oh my God, I had such a beautiful mum and wonderful relationship still with her that I felt really emotional that my boys will never have a mum. it's not that I felt guilty like oh no they've only got two dads because everyone I believe just needs a parent that believes in them and is going to you know bat for them and support them I just went they're never going to have what we had in a mum and from that point when I started sharing it on our podcast because that that allows us to share more of ourselves I um I was able to I think really articulate how incredible women are purely by gender default, usually are the ones that have to work a full-time job and then come home and work another full-time job purely by gender and the default of it. And I tried my hardest to really say to women and moms especially, I see you. And the most fucked up thing that happened after that was it felt like it took a man to say

how incredible women are for women to be seen. Like women have been saying and been doing this job as in being a mom and being the, you know, the full time, you know, having to get a full time job and then being a mom working full time. And it took a man to say well done for them to go, thank you. Finally somebody sees us. And I'm like, you didn't need a man to say, I see you. I think what was. Does that make sense? Yes.

But what I think was really cool about it is, you know, thank God anybody, you know, not anybody, but, you know, with the means, if you, if you're already. not in a hetero relationship, you don't just roll over and get pregnant naturally, that we have this way of everybody having the ability to become a parent with, with, you know, the proper help and support. And whether you do that as a single person or whether you do it as a gay couple or whatever it might be or, or you have to leave your partner because they are not a good partner. And I just think that I think too often people in their support of gay men having children, you don't want to bring up the fact like about the mom. Like I've had other gay parents say, my child doesn't have a mom. And I go, no, I know they don't. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.

Like I think sometimes gay men might have a little bit of a chip on the shoulder. Yes. Like my child, and I'm like, no, I don't think anyone's saying that. But I thought it was, you know, beautiful and true. and just like anybody would look at something where they're like, wow, or if you're a working parent. And you're like, wow, my mom was home all day with me and my kids don't have that. Like, I kind of took that from that. And that's what I meant. And a lot of people took their version from that.

Like the DMs still to this day, people talk about that to me. And women, a lot of them say, you healed something in me. I had a dad that didn't see me or parents. I had a mom that was terrible. I want you to know. I see how much you love being a parent. And then that's healed something in me that there are parents out there that love being a mom or a dad either way.

And so there was so many incredible things that like, you know, really came our way after sharing that. Yeah. And I think it also just showed that you are someone, you know, you're this funny, outgoing person, but that you, you know, recognize, recognize things that you might think in your like funny way that you might not be there.

So I think that's really important as funny people that in this industry, which I think makes the longevity of people like us last is showing that authenticity. Well, we ain't scared. We ain't scared to show it all. But Miss Rachel gave us no choice. My boy said mummy one day and I was like,

the fuck. Or because of Miss Rachel. I'm like that was like one year's old. And they're like, Mama. And I was like, holy shipples. Yeah. I didn't think I'd have to have this conversation with you boys at one. And I was like, sit down.

And I'm like, oh God, here we go. I'm like, Marcus, we got to tell the boys that they don't have a mom, right? Like they got two dads. Sorry, boys. And we did. We had this conversation and we do it a lot. And I, and I talk to them. I'm very intentional with them because one day I went, we've got to tell them that they've got two dads because it's like,

It's like it feels like it's a very normal family. And it is our normal. But I went, we grow, we're in a very white, fucking, you know, privileged area. And, you know, one of my boys is, you know, is brown. The other one is going to be, is full of fucking life. They're going to have to explain that they've got two dads and why they look the way they are and everything. And I, I, I wear. So they're fraternal twins.

They are fraternal twins. Yes. So one's biologically mine. One's biologically Marcus's. Oh, so. They have the same egg donor. So technically they're half brothers. Yes.

And twins that are half brothers. It's fascinating, right? Yeah. Super cool. America can do anything. America. I had another guess. So it's the same thing.

Oh. Well, when we first found out about it, sorry I'm digressing. When we first found out about this, we were like, is this what you do in China? Like, is this under the table like hush, hush to make it happen, right? So we go to this surrogacy conference. And there's like, you know, you can do it in Georgia. You can do it in the Ukraine. And then it was like, California.

Right? And they stand, these gays that are standing there at their booth at this conference, right? We walk up to them, we're like, hey, we've heard that you can do this. They're like, oh, Scott, we're sending people to Mars these days. We can do anything in California and America. And I was like, we're going to America to make babies, right? And these boys one day I just thought, we've got to tell them that they've got two dads and that other people have moms because I just had this vision. And one day they'll come home from like school on day one. And they'll like throw their bags down and be like,

what the fuck? Most people have a mum and a dad. Not everyone has two dads. So we just thought we're just like, we're going to bear it all. We're going to share the truth about it. You said something funny the other week. They're Santa Clock mum as well.

You said Miss Rachel, but they think our mum's their mum. So they're calling my, our mum now. But they call me Scott. Now one of them calls me Scott just to like rail me up already. They've realized if I pop off, It's funny.

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Where did that need come from where you thought that you had to succeed in order to feel loved? He said, I have a work dad. I need a home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he started crying. Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not those hard moments that they go through. It's about what happens next. I decided to risk it all.

I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dar, I'm not going to pull punches. You can use your voice even if it's shaped. The stories are different, but the impact is the same. Only one question matters. What happens next? You know what the whole thing is about little kids?

Because I, technically I'm a stepmother to my first child, which is my stepdaughter. And she doesn't look like me. Her mom was Asian. Well, now she's 27, but 26. But anyway, yeah, she is. She's very smart. And, you know, people would be so shocked when they'd come over and she would call me mom. And I go, don't you understand she's like a little kid?

Her brothers are calling me mom. It's natural. So whether that happens with the grandma, or whatever or sometimes you'd make remember sometimes you in school you'd call your teacher mom by mistake like the worst day of life and then when people break up it's such a big thing where people try to get like court orders where they're like um the child can't call the stepmother mom and i'm like you're gonna put that court order on a four year old like what the fuck is wrong with you the kids will get it they'll understand and it's just it's just a matter of just if they call someone that anything it's because

it's around them and it's a comfort and they're treating them like a parent. So, but they were even time, but calling you sometimes by your actual name too, my kids would sometimes do that too. And again, it's just a slip because they're hearing your husband calling you that. Like, it's just, it's not like this, like, we're going to screw them up today. Although Bobby Beckett did one day, he goes to me and Bobby Beckett, he's full of life. He turned, he looked at me, one of my sons, yeah. He goes, gay.

And I went, and this is one is too, and I went, did you just call me gay? And he was like, gay. And I went. He's like, clock that. And I went, yeah, I am gay. And I'm a proud gay man. And I'm like, how am I explaining this to two year olds, right?

Like, he's already, like, figuring out, like, how to have fun with me, I think, and how to find his voice in it all. It's really cool. It's great. Okay, I want to get into also that you guys do this fun thing. where I love these well first of all this was really great

because I went I saw this Cichella concert with Justin Bieber and that they when he was just doing his whole YouTube show where it was just a degenerate in his room

looking up old videos you guys got to be in it how did you find that out this wasn't real oh it's not real I edited it to make it look like we popped up on his screen. I thought it was because he's a lot of people with that.

You know what he just did to you is what he does to me all the time, like completely gaslighting me, making me believe in something, we're doing something and then it's a prank. He did it. Well done. Sorry, Heather. I love that. Thank you. That's so, I know I did.

But people are messaging me going, oh my God, you're at Coachella? And I was like, no. And they're like, no, you're on somebody, like, on Justin B. And I was like, oh, yeah, whatever. Like, I hear it like, did you watch the concert? Yeah. I mean, it was weird. And I don't know.

We talked about it, but I think it was like a way to get around music rights or the millions you made, whatever. But basically, he sat there, barely saying, was not a show like, you know, where you would get to see him sing and dance stuff. And it was just him being like, like, looking up stuff on YouTube. And people are like, what the fuck is it? So I really just thought that because you guys were popular, like, that would just be a fun thing to just show. See, I think he should have done it. Yeah. Okay, I love this, this stuff that you do.

Now explain this, Luke, this idea. So this idea, well, when you start making content, and we've been doing it for about four years, it can sometimes get quite hard to always think of an idea to put up. So when you almost get onto a winning sort of piece of content, an easy thing you can replicate actually is quite good. And people seem to like it as well. So this is the idea of doing an improv where I read out a fake,

scenario. Normally it's been sent in by someone from our audience too, where Scott has to react to it live. So it can be from anything. The more random I loves when I'm reading him, it'll be like, you've been the military of called and you've been inscripted to go to war and then reading it to him and then he has to react there and he knows he has about one minute maximum because that's how long I want the video to go for. Yeah. That's the worth thing. And I'll be filming sometimes. I'm like, wrap this up. Like end it now. But no, now we've probably done about 20 of them and I really enjoyed and it seems like other people seem to enjoy it. The audience seem to love it.

Okay. We just did one with Coleman Domingo two days ago. Okay. Now, I just need a... I want to do one. I just need... Will you do one with us after this? No, but can we do one here?

Oh, of course. Can we do one? Well, first, let's... Do you have a fresh one for him? Or you can do an old one on me. Can I do one with a joint one? You do an old one on me. You're an VP improv's comedian.

Because I'm only... I only looked at the first one last year. Can I get my phone? Because I write down all the good ones. Yes, yes. I'm going to go get it. So, Coleman, I just need to clock this, though. Okay. I just did a one minute scene, acting scene, improv.

With a two-time Oscar nominee, Luke directed and filmed us. Like, we walked away from lunch going, the fuck. Like, just with an iPhone. Boy's from Melbourne. Like, we just did. Us take an x-rays about six months ago. Right, because you're the radiologist. Being distracted.

Yeah, that's okay. Actors in the world, and he was happy to do it with us. It was like, yeah, great, can we? Like, how fun. Yeah. And you're like, what do we do with this? Like, this is wild. Oh, you know what?

You were before, while he looks that up, we'll give you a little break. We'll talk about some juicy scoops. So we were talking about Jacob. Your son. No, Jacob. Oh, Jacob, the actor. Oh, a lordy, sorry. A lordy.

But I do think that my son could be like a cousin of his. They look slightly alike. Yeah, they got the height, yep. Yeah, so anyway, that he's dating Kendall Jenner. Yes. And what do you think of that romance? Are you for it? Did you see them on the beaches?

I saw him at the Brisbane airport covering their faces from the pepper arts. It came in like covering. And the attitude in Australia is, we don't give a fuck who you are. And if you try and make it seem like you're more important and you're hiding, we're not going to like it. if you just walked in off the plane. But at the same time, they're like, no one cares who you are.

But you got, we're seeing these photos because obviously the paparazzi are everywhere anyway. Yeah, sure. So it's like a play on, but I think in days of like big celebrity and social media now,

they share so much of their life anyway. Why are you hiding from a guy? Okay, so I have two guys at fucking Brisbane Airport in Australia that are there to get a photo of you. Just smile and wave and walk through. Okay, I got a good story for you. Go.

Okay, so I've known the Kardashian-Gen for years. Oh, God. And Caitlin Jenner belongs to my country club. Okay. And she's been there for 20 years. Okay. So she's a big golfer. And because we know each other from way back when, whenever I see her, she, you know, talks to me.

And she had told me, this was like, you know, a few weeks ago. And I'm like, oh, how, you know, how is everybody? And, you know, of course I know, because how can I not know how everybody is? Like, so, yeah. So, yeah. And, and she's like. well, Heather, this isn't for you to spread. And I'm like, okay.

I'm like, okay. Candles, you know, dating Jacob. I'm like, yeah. Like, the world knows. Yeah. But she did tell me before anyone else that she was going to visit the family. Kendall was going to visit the family in Australia. That's why she was a Brisbane.

And I didn't tell anybody that. And, um, but, uh, Caitlin likes Jacob very much, and Caitlin likes Timothy very much for Kylie. I think they're both of them with massive actors together. Thinks it's both good relationships. Listen, I feel like Jacob hasn't got any crosses against his name that I'm aware of anyway at home, right? Like, you don't, we haven't heard anything bad about him. I mean, I just feel like.

Imagine taking Kendall saying, Mom, Dad, here she is. Like, did they all have to stand up as Kendall walks in the room? Or do you think they're like, hey, Kendall, welcome to the shit show. All right. Like, I don't think they would have treated her like. The girls are very, very polite and lovely and down to earth. I'm sure she was lovely to the family. And I think...

She'd have to be. And listen, I think that Brody Jenner, who is Caitlin's biological son from the wife number two, I've always said I think he is like the best-looking man, like walking earth. I think I just sort of TikTok about this the other day. That he's just the best looking. And he's married and his wife is a professional surfer who surfs while she's pregnant with a second child. And like the baby's like on the shoulder. Like they're like ridiculous.

Okay. And anyway. So I and of course, Kendall is absolutely stunning. Being, you know, her genes. I just think if they have a kid. Superhuman. It'll be a superhuman. It will be a dark.

care stunner delight. Amazonian something. Yes. So I, that for that I think the we need to see that. We need to see.

We deserve it. And then that it's, and then if that hottie has a half Australian half Kardashian Valley accent. We thought we were going to get, Australia thought we were going to get this with Liam and Miley. Oh yes. And now it's,

it's happening again. And so now this is maybe the, I think Liam was an awful husband to Miley. I don't know. No, I don't know. We... According to her songs, it sounds like he was. It does.

But Miley came out and said, I'm not going to remember it completely. But she said something really good in terms of if the person I'm talking about is being offended, that's not on me because it was your bad. If you're not, if you're offended by your bad behavior, that's your thing. But you shouldn't be... I'm going to say it all wrong. I wish you could find the clip, but it was beautiful. It was almost like, she can speak her truth because if you don't like it,

that was your behavior. Right. Everyone can tell their own story. And if you were part of the story, too bad. And there was clips on them on red carpets and that way. She would be doing your normal self and you'd be like, stop it. There was some rumor. I can't remember that she, the reason they broke up is that he cheated with, allegedly possibly cheated with who, Jennifer. Is Jennifer Lawrence? Is that what the hot rumor was? I can't remember who was somebody he did a movie with or something. And then. The hunger games, I think was from that. And then she wore a dress in her video.

The gold dress. Whoever that was, it was Jennifer Lawrence or not, they know people are screaming in their cars. I know, I'm sorry. I'm not. You know what? It was shit on. Okay, did you come up with some?

I did. I've got one for both of you. Okay, great. You've got an eyelash under your left eye and it's annoying the shit out of me. Well, then please wipe it out. No, I'm going to keep it off. No. My left eye?

Yes, wipe it. Is it gone? Yeah. All right, are we ready? Yeah. Who wants to go first? Who's feeling up? for it. Should I go first?

Absolutely. I'll go first. Then if yours is so much better than mine, okay. No, you're gonna knock it out of the ballpark. You've got this. You have a freaking McDonald. Okay, let's go. And it might go with, I think you said something about having gum when we walked in. Now, I wonder if I should direct it to my, I'm gonna direct the answer to my, to my camera.

Okay. Perfect. Okay, but go, give it to me. The person sitting next to you on the plane has bad breath and keeps talking to you. Yeah. Um, no, I'm just going. I'm just going, I'm sorry, I'm just going for work. It's just, no, you know, when I wasn't being truthful, actually, I'm going for a funeral and if I talk about it, I'm going to sincerely start crying. So do you mind if we just don't talk anymore? I'm so sorry to hear. Tell me more about this funeral. It's for my grandmother. She was hit by a bus in.

New York City and then fell into a sinkhole. They have a sinkhole problem in New York City. Oh, are you from New York? No, but she was and she, they're looking for her in the sinkholes. And down in the sinkholes, they actually found 71 young Jewish girls that were hiding down there for no reason. And they brought them up. Tell me more about that. And, and, and, I'm just going to... Is everything okay? I'm just going to hold my breath for just a minute. I get nervous on planes and I hold my breath when I get nervous on planes.

Do you want to do a breathing technique with me? Here, I'll go first. Breathe in. Actually, I have to tell you, I also have a terminal disease. And they don't know if it's contagious or not. So if I were you, I would see if there's an extra seat. I noticed there was a couple extra seats. Where's the call bell?

You went everywhere. I don't think. I don't know if it was that good, but okay. I enjoyed it. You do this thing that some of our winners, like our winners, like the ones that have done really well is where you just bring something completely random into the storyline. You guys hear about those 71 Jewish girls that just came out of a tunnel in New York?

No. Nobody knew why. And then it just goes away, just like an alien story. You're like, well, that was weird. Remember those alien stories? Remember the drive? Is it where nobody cares about aliens anymore? Can I stop for a second?

I was one of the only people in Australia. I think James Franco cares about aliens. And I made a really big video about it. And I was like, which aliens were you into? Not the alien, it was the drones that were hanging. Oh yeah, the drones, the New Jersey drones. The giant ones. Remember that summer of New Jersey drones?

Size of freaking cars. Yeah. And it was everywhere. Then all of a sudden that all of just disappear. Just goes away. What the fuck were they? We never knew. We're going to be kicked out.

We're going straight to Australia after this. True, like their black cars are going to be out the front of the studio waiting because they're like, oh my God, the Australians are talking about it. Because what do you mean? you're not allowed to talk about it. No, where they disappear? How do Australians feel about aliens? You know what?

The truth, we're like, why the fuck do they keep happening in America? There's a really good movie at the moment. You're like a little offended that they're not coming to Australia. Yeah, we're like, of course they're happening in America. Why? Yeah.

But like, why? It's so bad. So our thing is, why does it always happen in America? Is it fabricated? Nowhere else. Aliens are like, we're like, will only go to America. I'm an alien. So you guys don't have alien.

No, it's like a chip on our shoulder. We're like, we might only come here. So you don't have anybody in Australia that says they were like farming and somebody came down and then stuck their finger off the asshole and then took them on a plane. Never happens in Australia. Only happens in America, y'all. Interesting. Yeah. Sorry.

What do they say? The call's coming from inside the house. Yeah. Scott's turn. Okay. You have one. Go. Get into character already.

I am. Am I not? You open a door for the same old lady every day and she never thanks you. Can I be the old lady? Can perfect. It's a duo. Okay. Or Scott, do you want to be the old lady?

No, you're, no, you're, it's, I'm the old lady. Okay. Go. Oh, did you drop something? No. Um, sorry, I've never caught your name. What's your name? So you can use your hands that fascinates me.

Do you know, do you recognise? Hi, Sassy Scott. Sassy. The guy who opens the door, hang on, give me two seconds. Hey, Luke, how are you? Really good, thank you. That's phenomenal to hear. Hang on, just give me one more minute.

Thank you. What is wrong with her face? What are you doing today? Not opening doors for people. No, and I'm not opening the door for this lady anymore either. Wow, look at that weather. I don't know why you feel to be so rude. I'm just minding my own business.

Why are you attacking me? I feel attacked. You feel attacked? Honey, boo. You have been completely undressing me for so long. Oh my gosh, I love your shoes. Where'd they come from? My daughter bought them for me.

And I don't know that I like your questioning. You can walk in those shoes, but you can't open a door. Fascinating. Do you have people at home? I don't choose to. Excuse me, young man or a woman. I don't know what you are. You're wearing an earring.

It doesn't matter, honey boo. And I just, I... Get your words out. If I had a camera right now, I would be filming you. But you wouldn't know how to use it? Do you know what brings me joy right now? What, dear. You're next on God's list, not me.

That's how I'll sleep tonight. You are the rudest person. I for 90 days straight have opened this door for you And you look at me I have never seen you in my I've never seen you in my life I would recognize someone that draws on his arms like that Okay cool

You'll be saying God next before you see me But it doesn't come out easily I have grandchildren And you're going to be stuck with that for what is that? For life Why is that person on a big thing? Oh hang on wait you want to see another one Look at this

as two skeletons fucking. Are you a devil worshipper? Yeah, absolutely. Because I ain't worshipping the shit that you do. I'm going to write a formal complaint. Can't hear her anymore. See ya. Wouldn't want to be you.

End scene. Thank you. That was good. That was fun, thank you. I was feeling awkward. Were you? It was like, lady, just say thank you. She's never going to say thank you.

She's never. She has never seen me before in her life. That was so good. I thought you were going to go get your cataracts taken out there. Oh, wow. But anyway. I do think there is an ongoing theme with you that you really like to call out people who don't have good manners and are very... Someone's finally clocked it.

Yeah, that is very entitled. Yep. Just, again, classic people that don't say thank you, don't, that kind of thing. That is like your biggest pet peeve, I think. I think it's having, I realize I have a voice, right? I know I have one now. I always knew I did, but I've seen over the years this gap of people not being able to speak up for themselves, usually against somebody that has an air of entitlement, right?

Yeah. And I just go, oh, fucking pass me the baton. I've got a voice. I know how to stand up to somebody. I can call it out really easily. And it fascinates me that there's so many people that can't use their voice. And that's where I always say as an ally, your job is to be tapped in when somebody needs you to stand by the side. But if they need you, tap them the fuck in.

And the ally can do the work for you. But even with Scott as well, the thing I clocked recently is words have meaning to him, whereas words don't have meaning to me. Like what kind of words? Like, I don't know. Say if we're arguing and I'll say something I know it's got to get to him, he's still stuck on that for the next week whereas like that's gone straight over my head. Or tone as well.

Somebody can say a word to me and I'm like, it's not at all what they mean. No. It's getting really deep for the juicy scoop. But this particular one that you guys did, you're a makeup artist and you're filming your response video to your influencer clients

who just did a nasty viral review of your makeup look that you gave her for Coachella. I love this one because it's so TikTok related. Like about influencers that call out people and call out their business. And then someone's like, do you know that you just destroyed their business? So let's all go destroy her following and let's call out where she works at the accounting firm. And like, there's so much of that.

And it can be really kind of funny. Yeah. It's funny. I've even seen businesses jump on it and they won't give names. And they're like, or this influencer has done this, blah, blah, but it's almost for their own promotion. It didn't happen. The business. Ah, you don't think?

Well, it gets great traction, like you just said. They go viral. That's a good point. There's so many things now that I'm like, this doesn't happen. Luke's against sharing somebody's name, though. I'm like, oh, you were comfortable writing that to me. You better, and you would have experienced this too. I would love what I want to do.

You've seen how he reacts to fake scenarios. I want to get, like, my favorite. comments where they're attacking him and getting him to green screen those comments live. Can you find one? Can you find one now? People don't write anything bad about me. What do you mean? I think there was a good one just recently. Let me find a bad comment about me. I screenshot one. Let me see if I can find it. Early on, I had a couple moments, not early on, early on in the podcast where all people could write you. And there was some that just really fucking pissed me off. And I was just like, you know, lucky for you. There's about a billion other podcasts that you can listen to.

You know, I know, actually I don't, and I've said I actually don't do well with criticism. It actually doesn't make me want to do better. It actually makes me get pissed off and want to quit. So if you like the show, you probably shouldn't be, like, say, you know, whatever. So I, but then my husband, like, one day, like, so I wrote something back and then he was like, oh, my God, like, just, you know, you can't do that. It's just easier if you just say nothing or sorry you feel that way. bye-bye, you know. But now I am to the place of like

Surinophil, because I realize it can get to a weird minutiae. And it does affect me too much. I actually don't like when someone says I hurt their feelings because they were listening to the show and I said something. I constantly say it's a comedic conversation podcast. Sure.

I'm not, I don't work for CNN. And if for some reason we talked about something that triggered a memory of you being on a soccer team where you hurt your ankle and I talked about tripping over a soccer ball. Like, I don't know what to tell you. Like, I'm sorry that that happened, but I'm not going to respond.

So how do you, what kind of comments really bug you the most? I like to hold a mirror up. So if you're going to, if you're going to, I'll say this one, for example. There's a couple of people that have said, clearly Scott has black children so they can be his slaves.

So they can what? They can be his slaves in his house. People can be very disgusting in the comments. terrible, so terrible that you go, these are in the comments under a thing or private DMs? DMs, can I go, oh my God, how did that secret get out? They're cleaning my pool as we speak, David. Do you want me to send them around to your house next?

And they, how do they come back to that? Right, they can't. Whereas I'm like, what the fuck, if they screenshot that and put that up, where fuck Scott stop writing this back. You know, one day somebody wrote to me like, ew, oh my God, you've ruined your genetic line by crossbreeding or something like that. And I was like genetic line. Like we were fucking like from potato farmers in Ireland that got sent on a ship to Australia.

We haven't got these great. Also, I thought Australians were like all the hot prisoners they sent to one island and then they procreated. Correct. So they're like criminals, right? Yes. And so when people like, how dare you breed like any other? Is that the truth about Australia or not? Yes.

The criminals, they got put on the shit. The convicts and got sent to Van Demonsland, which was Australia. But they must put some criminal women too. Yes, they did. Yeah, for real petty crimes. Oh, and then they procreate. Petty, yeah, correct. Petty.

Yeah. Is that the right word? Petty crimes. But it's the most attractive country. Are you thinking you wearing attractive right now? I don't know. Maybe I was just in a cute part. I went to Sydney twice and I thought it was extremely attractive.

I felt like everybody was just like, so good looking. Sydney's a beautiful city as well. Sydney's like that. Okay, so continue. The DM question and the comments. But you don't want to, I'm guessing you don't want, some people will highlight those comments so that all the fans go after them,

but do you feel like it's borderline on like doxing kind of? Docks the shit out of them. Go to their fucking front. So, no, I don't, you fuck around, you find out. You want to say something like that. Well, about your kids, thank God. About me, about races, about equity groups. Fuck around and find out and watch what happens.

But I like all the whole comment section. More comments, more engagement. I'm all for it. So if a bad comment about us. I love we've got the emotional on it. We've got the money guy. Yeah. Like algorithm come at me, write the hate.

Whatever. But what I don't like is when we put other people in our content and then hate can come towards them. So I'm very more mindful of that. Yeah. They can say whatever they want about us. I've never done that either. I have commented back like in the comments when someone says something like,

oh my God, you're too old to be wearing shorts, you know, or whatever. I will leave that up because somebody else will see it and go, let me see your fucking legs, you know. But I don't highlight it, make a video out of it. Heather, this is what you need to do. I'm really sorry your mom hated you. That's a good one. Yes. Write that back to the guy that writes that you, say,

No. I'm sorry your mum hated you. Well, I did. They got mummy, daddy, your shoes. One thing I said, you're going to go, go, go, go, go, go. You're going to find your fucking weigh in with people like being, Heather.

No, say, say what you're going to say. No, I'm saying what you should do. This is what I do every now and then, and it's exactly what you're doing, but I pin the comment. So it goes to the top, wait until there's about two of our audience clap back, then I unpin it,

and then it's become a big comment through it. Yeah, let your people defend. And then there's more comments again, and everyone's fighting on your behalf. which is better than you. Yeah, I never want to... Like, I never want to... I hate it when there's bots or something

that are actually coming from my enemy, but then they go after somebody and they... And then that person is like, oh my God, I'm getting death threats, but they somehow associate it to me. Like, I got people to go after them. And I'm like, this is clearly a bot

created by somebody else to make me look like I have an army of hateful people. I don't have an army of hateful people. See, we don't need the bots. We've got me. Yeah, yeah. So I don't, I hate that and I hate when people don't see through it because I'm just like, come on, you know, like, I have never once said on a show, go after sassy now.

Unleash the hate. Like I would now, like I'm just, the engagement, go. Yeah. See, mine is more like, you know, David from whatever town, you know, that will say something. And if I go, oh, I see you and I'm going to give you the attention you think you want, as soon as I've received,

respond anything back to them. They go, sassy, sorry, mate, I actually love you. Right. Yes. And then I go, you bitch, have a backbone and at least come back to me when I come for you, but they very quickly buckle and put their tail between their legs. Yeah, very quickly. Yeah, like, I'm a fan or, yeah. I actually think you're really funny. I just don't like what you said there. Or there's people that are like, I got blocked by so and so. And they wear it like a badge of honor and I'm like, I don't know if you're constantly writing really mean things about this person under their stuff about their character. Do you think it's healthy for them to continue to see your mean comments? So by them blocking you, I know you think it's mean or something because we've blocked you,

but it's actually protecting our own mental health. Like I don't need to see hateful shit. Go get another fake account to watch my stuff, but this account won't be able to like write a mean thing. So it's like I don't understand why people. and some of these people become creators on their own and they're still like and I've been, I've been, Bethany Frankel blocked me and I'm like

I don't blame her. Like I kind of called her out on some things and that's fine. I shouldn't be allowed to see her content anymore then. She dominates still. Good for her. But if I'm going to talk about her and she's going to block me then I think that she's ever right to do that. Of course. Of course. It's a healthy thing and I'm not

So we're not setting the bots are away just to make it clear. I don't have, I don't know how to do bots. I think I've been a victim of bots and I think I've been a victim of someone setting bots to like create something. But then once you get a longer perspective away from it, it's like there's this other thing that is, and I'm going to script this thing. You probably know, like, you know, pretty people will compliment you. Successful people will encourage you. wealthier people will whatever buy your dinner

I don't know there was something like that nobody that is above you in any of those categories is going to be the one that's going to say horrible shit about you so anybody so so I always was like when I would read the mean things

I would be like they're baby reindeer you know from the show baby rainier they're that weird woman that has like a weird life oh man and that yeah or man or an angry man that like hates women that just is like so mad that you're like happy and having a fun life. I love it though

when other people do it like there's this one girl that let's say it's Julia Roberts is on the red carpet and you know she's got a lot of comments but she gets them oh she looks old now or whatever and they go into their face. So then then she puts a whole video together and goes into their face and it's always and it's like

this lady that's like sure doesn't look like a pretty woman anymore. She looks terrible for her age and it'll be some old person and I mean that's kind of this person's whole thing and I'm like I love them because you watch this thing you're like yeah what do you want like she's 58 years old like she does look great but does she look the same as she did in 92

no she fucking doesn't yeah like it's such a thing but now it's been such a part of our life and I just think by doing that by seeing that anybody that gets that whether you're a high school kid or whatever if you've got to toughen if you're skin because this shit isn't going away and cyber bullying isn't going away and there's got to be a way to like be in this earth and use it because it's so valuable. It's not like you can't really be on social media.

If you're not on social media, people suspect that there's something wrong with you. It's fascinating when I do make people that aren't on it. I always think about like opinions on me. People go, how do you do it, Scott? Like with thick skin. And I'm like, no, I have many opinions on people. So for me to be allowed to have those opinions on people, I have to accept that people are going to have opinions on me.

Yeah. Right? It's a currency, right? Like, I buy it with that. So, like, I have to accept it back. But it just goes that my opinions are right. There's a wrong. Yeah. Right. Right. I love it. And the hate, the nastiness, I block purely because I never want my kids to see it. So it's like if there's somebody like that is like relentlessly saying terrible things, I block it. Not because I can't handle it. It's like, oh, I don't ever want my kids. Right. To one day scroll and go, oh my God, people are saying that to our dad. I block them. I just, they've got a guy. Definitely some people. Now, this one was a really fun one. It was for you to do this challenge. Your friend receives the wrong meal at the restaurant and is too shy to say anything about it. I love that because I feel like that one, everyone has been there. Now, you might be the person that's too shy to say anything.

The friend that goes to the hairdresser and they're like, I hate it. And you're like, why didn't you tell them? Like when they were like dying, yeah, why did you leave the hairdressing salon? saying I love it and you walk out and they cry in their car. I've got so many girlfriends that have done that. I'm like, you didn't have fucking go. Like, say, can I come back or can you fix it or can you cut it shorter or change the color? Like, it fascinates me.

Okay, I have got wood for you. Yeah. Okay? You're getting a massage. It's at like a nice, it's your vacation. It's a nice spot. It's costing like $380 with tip, okay? I've done this.

And it starts. And it's pretty good. two hands, whatever. But then all of a sudden, it's just, it's just one hand doing your neck, just one hand for a while. Yeah. For a while.

And you're kind of thinking, this isn't that great. Like, it's $380. Now, I am the person that never says anything. I, I kind of made me not getting to,

I kind of think I'm over massages. When my whole life, when I was a young girl, I'd be like, one day I'd be rich enough to have like a living masseuse. But I don't want that anymore Because I've had too many bad massages And I don't speak up So now I want to hear

What you're going to say This is just not a good massage It's just like you're not feeling it But you're only 20 minutes in And you paid for 80 minutes Let's go Do you need a hand? I feel like I would just say that

Excuse me Do you need some help? Excuse me what are you talking about? Are you okay? I'm okay Is the pressure okay for you? The pressure's fine in the one hand that you're using, I thought I purchased an 80-minute double-hand treatment.

Oh, well, this is just one part of the massage. How long does this park go for? Let's move to the next, please. Thank you. Actually, you're making me feel uncomfortable. Okay, story of my life, this isn't about you right now. It's about the service that I've just paid $380, well, probably $340 minus tip. First of all, you asked for our force. Whoa, this is confrontational.

Let's change mesoises now. Do you mind leaving the room? I do want to say, you didn't ask for strong pressure. That's an extra $82. Okay, the energy in this room, sorry, Lateesh. We're going to have to change mesooses, please. Okay, I'm going to give you a little bit of time. Don't get up too fast.

Thank you. I'll bring you some water. Oh, no, don't worry about that. Just bringing you a mousseucisuses. The session has been, is done now. Okay, so I'm not paying for this, though, right? It's already been charged your room, but you can take that up with the manager. Thank you.

Oh, I absolutely. Well, do you want to go grab them now? Thank you. That's good. So you'd stop it. In real life, you'd stop it. Yeah. So we've had this conversation before.

But not. I wouldn't be a see you next Tuesday. But you would say like, what's up with the one? So you'd be like, what's up with the one hand? How long into just. one hand, would you say, why is it big, because I, someone says, what do you think they're doing? I'm like, I don't think they're jerking off. I think they're looking at their phone. I mean, to be honest, I think they're like doing shit on their phone. We were, we did the amazing race, Australia.

Oh, when did you do that? Last year. Was it amazing? It is, it is everything you wanted to be. We came close. We, we, wait, I want to hear about that a minute, but to continue with this story first. Production, things got pretty heavy for everyone. Like, there was a bit of trauma and stuff on set. And we're in Uzbekistan and one of the producers came up and said, we've got some massages booked for all of you at this hotel. As a treat. That's a treat for all of us. I'm like, heaven.

Luke's like, I don't like being touched. It's like massages. I'm like, sounds like I'm getting four hands or two double sessions. Yeah. I'm not wasting it. I walk in and there's these two Uzbek women. One is sitting on the bed, the one that's clearly supposed to be massaging Luke that's like, great, I've got an hour off.

she's eating fried chicken on the bed as her mate starts massaging me, right? I'm like, but I'm in Uzbekistan, so just take it, right? You're in the amazing race. Your body saw, you just fucking ran up the Himalayas yesterday in Nepal. Right, I'm like, just take it, Scott. And I'm laying there. Can you smell the chicken?

Wait! I can hear her sucking the meat off the bone. So I go, hang on to stop. And I said, is she going to be in here the whole time? and there was no English at all. And I was like, can you get a producer, please? And then the lady was like, no, no, no. And like, was Becky women a pretty strong?

So she's just like putting my head back down into the table. Like, shut this little girl up or whatever she thought I was. And I was like, she has to go. So I told the lady, I was like, please, can you go outside? And now this woman was like, what the fuck? And she did, she left the room. But she was sucking on it. And I could hear her.

She was like five, six metres. way and I was like, stop her. So yeah, I actually have called out behavior in a massage before. Amazing. I have one last question for you. Now, are you still single Luke? I'm in a relationship. With a woman.

Very private with my personal life. And when you started that, were you at this level of fame or not? I was. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And did she know who you were before she dated you? Yes.

okay good because I hate a girl I hate a person that goes with someone famous and they're like I don't even own a TV I had no idea who were I didn't you find out they were like Red flagged you're the one in the dance yeah yeah in the comments and you look back at their Facebook

and it was like my favorite show is Vanderpump Rules when I was since 12 on and you're like oh and you don't know this person I was okay so with your husband you guys been together how long 13 years so how has it been with this completely new career, fame, international social media on your relationship. I'm so lucky.

Marcus is a fucking super Bravo fan. You, he's loved you, your whole career. Like when I said to him, I was like, spoke to Heather today. He was like, shut up, right? Like, juicy. He was so excited. Marcus used to say to people, because I haven't changed, he used to say, Scotty's a rock star in his own world. And then when this blew up, he goes, the world just realized and learned what I always

knew. That's so cute. And he's just always been very supportive. Now, the reality is, you know, he's a CEO, he's a businessman, he's done really well for himself. So he has a normal career. Yeah. And, but Luke and I have been thrown into rooms and we can hold our own in them. You're lucky when you've got your brother next to you, right? We always say when your brother's in the room, you've got two votes at the table no matter what. We're always going to, you know, go the same direction when we have to. But, you know, Luke and I have had to clock sometimes. If we bring plus ones, you know, to an event.

And Heather, you've been in these rooms too. Look and I are like, oh, let's get the fuck out of here. And you look at your plus ones who are like ducks out of water that are like, oh my God. You know, one night, we're the ambassadors to the Royal Children's Hospital, Good Friday, appeal back home, right? Oh, beautiful. You know, we're in the room with billionaires sometimes.

And, you know, people have absolute affluence and, and, um, influence and we just talked to them now like hey what's up gidday and then like move them on and one night marcus said to me stop on the way home he said the amount of people and it was a small room of 50 he said but who they all are and who they all were it's your norm but you need to know it's not the norm and he said good on you and luke for being able to hold your own in those spaces he said but i'm my i still have to pick my jaw up because that's pretty incredible now what you guys just call a date in your life. I loved talking to you guys.

I think you're just so much fun. It's Luke and Sassy Scott is your Instagram, your TikTok. The podcast is Luke and Sassy. And I just am so glad you came here. Thanks for coming on JuicySkid. No, thank you for having us. No, you're beautiful as well. You thank you guys.

She's a real deal. Can confirm Heather is what we wanted to be. Tick. Google review? Yes. Thank you. Love you. Bye.

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