Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Mark Wahlberg and Murder in Boston with Brandy and Julie

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Comedians Julie Goldman and Brandy Howard from The Dumb, Gay Podcast are here! I share about meeting Mark Wahlberg and why Julie should watch his movie “Fear”. We discuss the Boston murder trial of Karen Read. She is accused of killing her boyfriend with her car. Her defense is that several Boston cops could be responsible instead. Baby Reindeer’s real Martha is suing Netflix for 50 Million. RHOA Kenya allegedly shared pornographic photos of her fellow housewife while filming. RHONJ drama continues, and we are afraid too. Stop diva shaming J.Lo, Meghan McCain. A TikTok was made about me as a tipper. Tom Sandoval needs to find new friends who don’t have podcasts. It’s so juicy and fun so enjoy!  This summer you can book whoever you want to be on Booking.com, Booking.yeah! Book today on the site or app. Wash your OUAI to healthier hair with shampoos and conditioners made just for you. Go to https://theouai.com and use code JUICY for 15% off your entire purchase. Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Julie Goldman, Brandi Howard. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop. Heather McDonald, happy birthday. It's not yet. It's June 14th, but I think I should open this gift on camera. Oh no, don't. Please don't. You know, a lot of people are going to start saying stuff that you guys are just buying me with gifts. Well, we started last year when we got you a very expensive gift. Yes, which I'll be using because we're going to Cabo. I have a Louis Vuitton passport holder. Uh oh. This really, okay. Oh my God. The Aviator. Aviator Nation. Now, Heather. A Malibu. Tell him you lost your hoodie with us. Don't tell Peter. He doesn't know.

I lost it, left it on the plane when we were going to Phoenix, Scottsdale to perform. And once you leave something on a plane that's that cute, I'm sorry. It's the flight attendants after that. It's the people cleaning, I don't know. It's somebody walking by, I'm not accusing anyone. I don't blame you for wanting to keep such a cute sweatshirt. But we did try, I did have Julie fill out the way for us.

And also as a good friend, I did fill out the loss. Pants too! This is your travel outfit for the summer. Oh my God. Wearing this on the plane. And by the way, can I tell you, I looked for shorts because she loves shorts. No, but I like a- If the Juicy Scoopers don't know. But we're in June gloom. Yeah. So this is where we're at. Oh my gosh. Thank you very, very, very, very much. My birthday, of course, is Flag Day.

And my mother used to say, look, everybody put their flag out for your birthday. And then I look at the other houses that forgot to put their flag out. And I was like, why don't they know it's my birthday? So that's where it started. And hence where I am today. And that makes sense. I had those kind of parents sense because now the American flag really does represent Donald Trump. We have the same birthday. Who also shares your birthday.

I also want to say I was in Newport this weekend and there'll probably be a big conspiracy theory about that because there was some people cheering. That's not why I was there. I was there because we, well, for one, we went to the wooden boat festival. Oh. Not the wooden boat festival. What is that, that big water boat? Wait, what? That is where people have real wooden boats

from like 100 years old that have been kept in pristine condition and you just look at it for like, you know, 20 minutes. Do people dress up or no? No. It's not like costumes? But you can go on people's boats. No, you can go on people's boats and just admire them like a car show, but for boats.

And then also, oh, first I just want to talk about important shit. Okay, so I'm going to be the next two shows are Tampa and Orlando. Everybody come to those. But then Julie is joining me July 27th at Humphreys by the Bay, which is a beautiful outside venue. Can't wait, never been there. Taylor Swift was just performing outside

and she said, oh, now I can see people getting engaged. It will be light when you perform. It'll be light for part of my performance, which is such a sexy concert summer vibe. So it's gonna kind of be like the Adele outdoor by the Griffith Observatory performance. Yes, it's going to be. But better.

Well, last year when I did it, it reminded me of Carly Simon when she performed at Martha's Vineyard, which was- Oh, good one, okay. Well, maybe you should do it impromptu, he's so vain. Maybe I'll do that, because I sang last year, I sang, I know nothing stays the same. A good one.

But if you're willing to play the game. I think he's so vain to be very good. Because it was like the golden hour, yeah. So maybe I'll do he's so vain to be very good. Because it was like the golden hour. Yeah. So maybe I'll do a He's So Vain. That's good. You probably think the song is about you. Yes.

But it isn't. Well, you know, should we ever want to? I'm just not that I'm bragging, but I do play the acoustic guitar fully. So I could. I feel like you may have told me that, but I think that we have not explored this enough. I'm just saying. As artists. I just, as artists, I feel that we might want to explore this.

Since you enjoy the singing, we will be on an app. I don't know, I don't know. I think we're talking, wait, it's happening. It's happening. I'm just saying. What I need to know is, do you want to see it at the beginning of the show, or do you want to see it at the end of the show? Is it a closer or an opener?

We don't know. I mean, the Heather McDonald folk experience. Speaking of which, performing. Now, I talked about this with Pete Davidson on the last show where he had to end his show early because of hecklers and whatnot. Now, George Lopez had to do the same thing. He ended it 30 minutes early at a casino

and it was sold out, but it was just, he felt that his thing is that he had supposedly talked to security about, hey, if this happens, you gotta really be on it, get the people out. And people are like, well, it wasn't that many people, it was only four people, it wasn't a hundred people. Listen, if it's even one and it's throwing off the artist

and disturbing it for everybody, so it was probably supposed to do an hour and a half. He ended at an hour. But of course that bummed out the people that came to see. And that is why, like, please do not get overly drunk and ruin it for everybody. You just did a casino. Yes, and it was, no, they were perfect.

No hecklers. No hecklers at all. Well, there's two types of hecklers. There's drunk and I'm obsessed and I think I'm in the show. Yeah. And then there's, are we doing a, what are we doing here?

It's like insulting. Yeah. Yes, yes. Right. And none of it's great. Sometimes people think they're a supportive heckler, but they're still a heckler. Yeah.

If all of a sudden, or they're screaming out like requests. I think it's even worse because now someone loves you and you have to be like, shut the fuck up. It's really, yeah. So, but listen, the Juicy Scoopers have a sterling reputation. And so just keep it that way because I really have been extremely lucky

in where I perform with the people that come and how great they are. So are you a excuse me this because Julie will definitely tell people to be quiet. Do you? Yeah, I have. And but it does kind of get me like throw me off because you're in the middle of your story. And you're like, Okay, okay, they're chatting or they're saying something to me. And I'm kind of just like, hopefully they'll stop. And then at a certain point I have to go hunt girls and then they get sad and then I feel guilty and I feel bad that I pointed them out. So but I saw someone at Pachanga who came up to me and said, like as we were walking

through, she's like, Heather, I'm so glad we got to come tonight because last year you were at Humphreys by the Bay and I went to something earlier in the day. I went to a Padres game and I got too drunk and so I couldn't see you. So we were making it up for it. But this is where that Juicy Scooper was a boozy classy lady. She boozed it up and she's like, I'm out. I'm not going to come and pass out or disturb people. I'm just going to be sad the next morning that I drank too much of

the game. That's a classy, juicy scooper. It's okay if you end up not showing up. I feel the same way for the holiday vacation people. If you're on vacation with someone and you're boozing all day in the pool and you're with the groups and that night dinner's at 730 and you're boozing and then you go to your room and take a little nap, whatever, let me tell you something. If the boozer person took a nap and doesn't wake up for the 730 dinner, please leave them the fuck alone. We don't need you to come.

It's your vacation too. No judgment. We've all been there. Who cares? You know? And if it is a special night out of four, like hey, I say hey, the Wednesday night is really important. That's when we're celebrating this. So like keep it in check that day. The rest of the days, who cares? Who cares? And if we've learned nothing from housewives. Don't wake up Sonia. Don't wake him up.

In fact, put Sonia to sleep. Don't wake up Luann. Don't wake up Luann. Put Luann to sleep. We don't want, or whoever, we could name so many. Can I tell you the first time, Julie, when we first met, it was a big vacation with with a bunch of friends. Of course I was drunk in the hot tub all day.

Why wouldn't I be? Was in Cabo through Mexico. And she had already opened for Rosie O'Donnell earlier in the week and she was great. Then she had her own. Your career has gone downhill. Thank you. Opening for me.

That's definitely true. Then she had her own hour and I was like, oh, I'm excited to see her hour beyond. Like people the next day were like, we had so much fun last night. I'm like, and you are. So I missed it and everybody was like, leave her be. And then I paid the videographer to like buy her set

so I could see it later instead of watch it on DVD. But that's the perfect thing of just leave the drunk bitch in bed. You might miss the thing. Maybe you'll miss somebody's most important hour of their life. But even still, that you still have literally peaked and then just a little dribble down, and that's fine. But look, see what happened. See what happened? Everything's great. But we need to down and that's fine. But like, look, see what happened, to see what happened, everything's great.

But like we need to leave the drugs. But then also, for that person that likes to day drink, look at the schedule and go. Yes, look at the schedule. And then go, you know what? I'm gonna keep it in check or I'm not gonna have my first drink till like five o'clock because the dinner's at seven

and I wanna be the light and I don't wanna miss that one. I wish that 15 years later I planned better. Well, yes, everything happens. I'm learning. Everything happens for a reason. Welcome to Alcoholics Are Fun podcast. We're changing the name. Okay, so let me tell you about my weekend.

Oh, wow. With Marky Mark Wahlberg. Okay. Wow. I mean, my smile could not be more. Okay, so this is- She's glowing. I've never seen the mouth so-

I'm too excited. I'm so, okay, let's just talk about it. Yeah. It's been no secret that one of my favorite movies is Fear. It's where Marky Mark de-virginizes Reese Witherspoon. Have you not seen this movie? It is available right now, I believe on Netflix. The classic roller coaster ride. They go on a roller coaster ride and he diddles her due. And she has her first orgasm. Then he crawls into her bedroom when her parents are out

and they have sex for the first time. Then he turns out to, he's the sweetest little charming foster kid, but he's not. He's actually a really bad person. But still hot, still hot. Such good acting, totally holds up today. So juicy, like it's so good. Alyssa Milano like was doing like return to the screen.

She's great in it. The parent, the dad's all nervous. It is so good. I'm like shocked you have not seen it. Anyway, it could turn you straight. Okay, so anyway. Oh my God. So of course I've always loved that.

And then he goes on to do all his things and now he's, you know, very Catholic. He always does this pray up, you know, thing. And he's a delight, very into the cold plunge. Love, oh, he likes the cold plunge. Loves an early workout. Yeah, doesn't he do like a crazy workout schedule? He wakes up at like 3 a.m., does prayer,

then cold plunge, then 18 holes by himself, then a workout, then works on 12 restaurants, then goes and builds a full-blown movie studio in Nevada, in Vegas, where they live now. It's a lot. And anyway, so I got invited to the restaurant opening in Huntington Beach called Fletch, which is his tequila. Beautiful, beautiful. This restaurant looks gorgeous. It really does look nice. So it was going to start at 530.

And I was with a couple friends. We were staying at that Bell Boa Bay place, friends we were staying at that Beller, Bell Boa Bay place resort there in Newport. And I go, this is what we're going to. And I show them the invite and my friend goes, oh, it's three o'clock. Are you going to the four to five thirty special meet and greet with Mark Wahlberg? I go, what? I thought I started at five thirty. You guys, I, that is not a washed hair. That is a lot of dry shampoo. I didn't have time. My whole plan was to wash it, whatever. Then I was like, Peter, we got to get there before 530 to see if I can meet him. So when we walk in, we see there's a small line, two people to meet him. So I'm like, we're just waiting. And I'm starting to get real nervous,

real, real nervous. What I'm going to lead with, whatever. I don't know. I'm like, I'm like, we're just waiting. Let me just, and I'm starting to get real nervous, real, real nervous, what I'm gonna like lead with, whatever, I don't know. I'm like, I'm just gonna lead with being Catholic. I've given enough to the church, it should pay off in this place. So- Are we asking Peter to hang back? Or are we like-

Peter's gonna film it, but he says, will you? He goes, but, why don't you, you know, oftentimes I can't hear what you guys say if I film it from here. So record on the voice memo and that way, any conversation we have, if we want to use it to like interview them about it, whatever, I have it. So I had it all ready to go.

Oh no. All ready to go to press the red button. That's nice. And then he catches eye contact with me and he's like, oh, hey, I'm a big fan of your work. And I'm like, you know who I am. I'm like, oh, you, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop,

don't press record. I'm like, I'm like, oh. And then, and then he's like, and then he goes, no, I love your humor. And then you're like, Peter, go, hey, security guard, stand back there. That man's following me. I don't feel safe.

The guy with the gray hair. Yeah, I'm like, who is this boomer behind me? Like what? And so he's super nice. It turns out our kids went to the same school at one point. We're chatting and just total beyond delight. Now I don't even know if you guys can handle this one. He said that he'd very much like to go to the show in Vegas in September.

Oh my gosh guys! Yeah but that's our show! I know! Another! I know! Yes! I mean we love! I know! Yes. I mean, we love, I love. Probably not after this.

I probably talked way too much and now it's not going to happen, but. I hope he doesn't. Well, now he knows you're married. He's like, I couldn't believe that he knew who I was, so he might be, he goes, whatever, he knows. And so then Peter was mad. You're saying he lives in Vegas.

He lives in Vegas now. Oh, okay, I didn't know that. So then he, so then he goes, so then that was that. And then Peter was like, I can't believe you didn't record it. I'm like, Peter, I'm like, what if, what if someone came up to you and was like, Peter, I'm familiar with your golf game. And it was the greatest golfer that ever lived.

Do you think you'd be like, I'm like, I just, whatever, who cares? So then he brings it up at least seven more times during the night that we're having a good time. That you fumbled the voicemail. Yes, yes. And then we get into the bedroom, our bedroom at the hotel, and I could completely hear what he said on Peter's video

where he said, I love you, Hubert, which I'll be sharing later today. So it was great. So then we continue on. Oh, wait, here it is, great. So then we continue on oh wait here it is wait Listen I love you Huma. I wanted to tell you this reminds me of and it's funny I have it looks one of Mark Wahlberg's finest roles. Okay, there's getting hot For the YouTube people how there's just robing listening to so Peters their video, you know taping you and him Yeah, and I can hear Peter because well you guys are Peter at one point is like, yeah

because while you guys are, Peter at one point is like, he makes us a laugh. And it reminded me of the scene in Date Night, the movie with Tina Fey, I believe, and Steve Carell, of which Mark Walberg is in, plays her ex or whatever. He opens the door, no shirt on. He opens the door, no shirt, and she's like,

hey, and then Steve Carell is like, and that reminded me of I don't care how tall Peter is and how secure that motherfucker was talking about Not think I just thought he thought I'd be another cute girl is take a kind of cute take a photo with I didn't think it Would be on yeah, so then I see another cutie Take a photo with. I didn't think it would. That is amazing. Come on. Beyond. Beyond. So then I see another cutie. Heather's whoring around the party. What is going on? Lopez.

What is happening here? Dimpled, also dimpled Catholic delight. With the pecs for days. Just could not be cuter. Every one of them looks, we don't know what their back hand is doing. I thought I saw Marky Mark's hand go down. I was like, is he feeling her weight? No, perfect gentleman.

Look, you don't know here though. Perfect gentleman there too. And Heather's like fingering my butt hole. Phil's good. Then I saw a bunch of Real Housewives of Ossie. Gina, who I know very well, and this is the new girl, Katie. And she's very pretty and very nice and very cool. And so that was fun.

And then I saw Gretchen Rossi. And we did a photo. And this is no filter. She's like, oh, you don't filter your photos? I go, no, I don't. But I think you look just great. And she did. She looked great.

She looks like she has a filter on. But she really didn't. This is really no filter. We were facing the light, which is always the way to go. You look really good, Heather. I want people to go. You look really good, Heather. And then I saw Vicki and Shannon arrive. They arrived late. I saw them at the valet because they were at a

signing where old stars go to at the Burbank Hotel. Meaning at the what's happening reunion? They, they were all these reunions. Burbank Hotel in Burbank, California or in, let's see. In Burbank, in actual Burbank. Why didn't we go to that? I don't know and where's the Burbank Hotel? So they were between the police academy reunion,

then the real housewife duo, Shannon Madore and Victoria. And Victoria comes with them. Soap, soap, soap reunion. Oh Victoria comes with the soap reunion. Oh my god, the soap reunion? Are you kidding me? When I tell you Julie loves... You love stuff like this? Well, you missed out. I mean, I like these shows.

It's just kind of interesting because these are all like the classics that you go and you sign the thing. And then them who are currently on shows. But I just thought that was kind of interesting. But whatever, who cares? So then I went came back to my home here and we went to see Bruno Mars at our country club. Why weren't we invited for your birthday? Again, here's my tag from my I did just say it was Bruno Mars and a couple of people really thought it was Bruno Mars. It's a tribute band called Locked Out of Heaven.

Actually, I think we saw them at your country club. No, it was a different band when I brought you. It was a different tribute. It's always a tribute band. It's always lots of kids. They were good. We love drunk partying with kids. Yeah. That's the only people who want to hang out with kids

is drunk people, if you really think about it. It was a variety of people from very young to old. It was, but it was fun. That's fun. Well, I bet that would have been fun to go to. We're not going to get invited anymore. So that was- What are you talking about?

We want to go to, I would, I mean, I love Bruno Mars. There is a more adult one later in the year. Well, what a Heather McDonald's week you had. I was a fun weekend. She's keeping her wristband on like it was Coachella. I forgot. This is from the other one. But anyway, all of it was super fun and the restaurant was very nice and the Locked Out

of Heaven people that do the Bruno Mars tribute band is like if you are looking for a band, I'm just being a Catholic Christian saying that they were amazing. I have no say. I'm not secretly managing them on the side. I am not 7M from the devil dancing with the devil. I just said they're talented, that's it. I just need to know. Yes. Is the restaurant his restaurant or just his tequila?

Or I don't understand. It's his restaurant and then Dr. Paul Nassif invited me, whom I'm known for years, and he's one of the investors. So there's like a group of investors, and then it is his tequila, and then he has some restaurants and so this is one of them. And it's like high-end Mexican food with like real chic and very good food. And like a fun party vibe? Super fun party vibe, higher end vibe.

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Yes, but I'm not following. And I have not talked about it much at all. So this is going on weeks and weeks of a trial. And this is Karen Reed who is on trial for, I believe, manslaughter. They're not saying it's like a premeditated murder, I don't think, but, or maybe that's what, maybe they'll give the jury the option. But the prosecutor believes that she is responsible for her boyfriend's death, who was a police officer with Boston. And what happened that night, and I'm just going to give the broad strokes because it's, you know, weeks and

weeks of testimony. Having that night is they've been dating for a while. He is a cop, but she is a professor at a university. And he is a great guy from what everyone says. And in fact, he has the guardianship of his niece and nephew because their parents passed somehow. And these kids are like preteen or younger. And they actually, they testified. And when they testified, they made,

they said very nice things about her. Sound like they have like a very normal, like, you know, relationship, almost like a mom, dad, normal family relationship. However, there was one indiscretion where she flirted with this guy who was his friend. By the way, with Mark Wahlberg, well, not more than that. Texting was involved.

Okay. And, and I listened to a little bit of the transcript, I mean, a little bit of the trial and he's like, and they're having a read the text on the stand and he's like, and then she said, you're hot, you know, hot, like that. I was like, listen, like listening to the voice. Anyway, they shared a kiss and her boyfriend knew about it. O'Keefe knew about it. But that seems to be the extent of it by all sides,

that it was like a little bit of a flirty thing and they had a kiss, but it caused some fighting. Come the night of the death, they are drinking bar hopping with a group of people and there's an after party at this guy's house. And she says, she like dropped him off or this is where it gets sketchy. She says, I dropped him off and he was going to go in the house for just a couple of minutes and then he didn't come out and she was probably buzzed and was like, fuck it and went home and passed out. When she

woke up and she realized that he hadn't come home, she's like, what the fuck? Probably thinking is he still partying at this house? She goes back to the house, and I still wanna apologize if I am saying any of this wrong and the people are freaking out in the comments, I'm just trying to tell you what I know. She comes back to the house and she realized she sees him in the snow. And they call the ambulance

and they're trying to revive him and everything, and he does pass. So- What'd she do? To put him in everything, and he does pass. So- Well, what'd she do? Put him in the snow and force him to stay down? Well, now, this is where the prosecutor has some things. They say that right away, she's like, oh my God, did I like inadvertently back up and hit him

when I dropped him off? But then she had also said that she saw him go into the house. But he has a lot of, and they haven't gotten to this part of the testimony yet, She had also said that she saw him go into the house. But he has a lot of, and they haven't gotten to this part of the testimony yet, like the real, there were facial injuries and stuff that the defense believes he might have gone in there, gotten some fights with somebody. These Boston cops beat him up and then threw him out in the snow or beat him up and he

walked out into the snow and they didn't realize how bad off he was and he fell back, passed out in front. But he's a Boston cop too. They're all on the force or work for the city. And then the other part is they were all kind of calling each other that night, but they all said it was butt dials.

Like when they got the phone records. But we're gonna take this woman down. Right. Because the Boston police department's super level headed and doesn't. I don't know what you're talking about. We aren't known for being racist. We aren't known for beating people.

We aren't known for any of that, okay? We're totally, totally above bod, right? And then they all got together, let's blame her. I mean, this stupid bitch is already flirting with his friend, so she must have done it How sweet is that for her to be like damn did I back over him? Was it me? I mean, I don't know kind of fight. They're getting them, but if they're drinking. They're already aggressive. They're cops I mean, I'm sorry, but like and they're in Boston Fight exactly like they're fighting about sports. They're fighting fighting about the red socks, they're fighting about whatever and whatever

They're fighting about Ben and Jen Yeah, Ben and Jen Who's Ben? Who do you like better? Ben and Matt? What you fuck shut the fuck up? Like, whatever Like I'm not even gay like that, alright? So like By the way, I'm performing at the Wilbur Theatre in Boston, and Julie will be joining me.

Yes. And Brandi will be there too. Listen, Boston. Brandi and Julie both. Yes. Boston's my heart, okay? Yeah. It's my heart, okay? I get it. So I get it.

But it is problematic. All of it. All of it. But I mean, it's a little bit of like, is she the, is she the, wait, they call the more blue collar people townies, and what do they call the people that are like not the townies, the educated? Jews.

Oh. Jesus. You can edit that, can't help it. I don't know. I don't know. Also Jewish, also Jewish. I don't know if that was part of it too, though, but it seemed like she knew people and they were fine,

but are they, and also with police officers, no offense to the people that are married to police officers, okay, but there is a high level of infidelity and- Aggression. And cheating and that kind of stuff, so it's all of that, but they're taking, one of the guys, he did throw away his phone and the SIM card.

I mean, come on. So, but he said that's because there was some undercover case that told him to do it. Right, that night. You know, the butt dialing was odd, which was all around like 2 a.m. or something with each other. Has she said anything about him being disliked? I don't know.

And also, I don't know if she went back and found the body or if they found the body. I'm not sure, or if she called them and was like, where is he? And then someone walked out and saw him there. So it could be that they beat him up, put him out there, and this was their story, or they beat him up, he walked out and passed out,

or when he did get out of the car, she was buzzed and inadvertently hit him because her taillight was broken. And there was a taillight fragments in the snow. But the defense believed that was all set up. And the last testimony was they showed the car, this is like very confusing, but they showed the car in with a broken, they're saying that the broken tail light was already broken. The defense was saying it was already broken from something else that she and her father like discussed was already broken before this evening. She likes to drive buzzed.

And there's like no it broke. She asked her what? Drive buzzed. Yeah. She broke that tail. Can't they go in there with like dust something and be like this has been broken for six weeks? Well then they found a hair on the tail light but that was after it drove on a truck for 60 miles in a snowstorm.

So they believe that the hair was possibly placed there. So they think it's a lot of their defense is these people have each other's Boston backs and they're tampering with evidence to write the narrative that she was buzzed and hit him and therefore didn't realize she hit him, broke the taillight, and he hit his head or whatever and died in the snow. But once, really where I think people are gonna make their decision and the jury is when we really get into the forensics of his injuries

and if they could all be caused by hitting by a car or some. Being beaten up by like five different guys. Yeah. I mean. Two questions. One, where are you watching this? Like court TV. I, I was listening to a lot of it. And then, um, cause there's a lot of like podcasts and stuff that will just play it. And then yeah, there's court TVs covering it. So we have no different people, not yet. Okay. So we're going to get that eventually. I can't wait. I do need to dive into this.

I'm sure, I'm sure anybody, I mean, it would be crazy if you had a documentary company and you were not following this and trying to get her. And then what is the temperature online? For her or against her? I think most it appears to be on her side, you know? Yeah, makes sense to me. Unless you're married to a Boston cop,

then maybe you'd be like, I don't know. I mean, it's just, it's crazy. So, oh, they were saying about the latest thing of the car, they somehow, the defense was showing that it was like switched around. Like it was mirrored, this thing. So they're saying that evidence is now been of the car I don't know just remember my cousin Vinny. What you know what? Oh your cousin

Remember what happened? There was this car that's they thought it seemed locked locked up with the car the trash the same track As a pause or whatever. This is like positronic Just like the thing with the tires and the thing and that the same tire tracks and it was all Gonna be locked up but with one little tiny pause attraction pause attraction Woman do you know my cousin the woman's making the cream of weed and can't see out of her glasses It's a whole thing exact same car talk about a movie that you should revisit

Right or like the Reese Witherspoon when she, in Legally Blonde when she realizes that you wouldn't wash your hair after a perm. Exactly, right. Yeah, with your lassies and Prada shoes. Right. When he's drinking the water fountain. She's like, whoosh. Or in my favorite case,

which is The Secrets of Silver Lake, where I do think that the wife who's in prison is innocent of knowing that her boyfriend killed her husband because I don't think she would help plan a murder of her husband the day before the first day of school. You're too busy. Makes sense. You're too busy.

So it's not the day you wanna do it. Makes sense. Yeah. It just makes sense. It's too much going on. You don't even plan to get your nails done that day. No. It's like, I've gotta do that later.

Yes. So anyway, I mean, I can't imagine. Yes, I hope that we get our documentary like the Staircase documentary, where we didn't know if he did it or an owl or whatever. Well, and we see her like before, like before all these, whatever happens, we see her before going to court,

what she's gonna wear, who she's talking to, you know, and then of course there's criticism if she at all ever chuckles. I'm like, here's the thing, whether you're up for murder or someone that whatever it is six weeks and if someone says something like blah, blah, blah, whatever and it just makes you does not mean that you are guilty or devil inside. If for some reason someone sees your smile, like it's okay to be completely stoic for six weeks straight would take incredible acting skills. You got ready and looked cute because you're on camera. Now you're trying it.

Well let's also- My sister says that she does coach, there's been times where she would be working on cases and it was like the appearance of a girl mattered in that you don't wanna look too good. Right, that makes sense. You don't wanna look too pretty. I mean, not to bring it in,

but Hunter Biden's wife could've toned that down. Are you guys gonna do Juicy Crimes? On this? Probably as more comes out, yes, Yes, but also because we've got Boston We've got cops right? We've got a woman who's Attractive. Yeah, who's playing her in the movie? Who's playing the husband who was killed and who's gonna be doing the boy? I'm giving me Sienna Miller a little bit but that it could be so many different girls

I mean they're good. This is gonna be a wanted bit, but there could be so many different girls. I mean, this is gonna be a wanted part. We're gonna have Boston accents galore. Yeah. But this is where I also go. Okay, I got it. Okay, who is it? Blake Lively.

Oh, perfect. It could totally work. Perfect. She tone downs her looks a little bit. She kind of looks like, yeah. And now that Blake's a little older, I think this will be perfect. Just brown up her hair.

If I was writing the scripted version, not the documentary, I would do that Boston cop friends of the deceased are prank calling her and being like, "'You don't wanna fuck with us. "'You hit him in the snow.'" And she's like, "'Let me just not get killed.'" She might have kids, I don't know. She doesn't have kids. Okay, thank God. I don't wanna fuck with us, you hit him in the snow. And she's like, let me just not get killed. She might have kids, I don't know.

She doesn't have kids. Okay, thank God. I don't think so. But she's like, let me just do two years for manslaughter and not have the Boston Police Department on me. Cause I'll go into like weird, like a mega conspiracy theory. I'll go into it. But she is defending herself.

So that'd be one thing if she just said, fine, I'll take it. I'll say I was drunk. I'll say I inadvertently hit him and I'll do two. But this girl is not someone that's just like, you know, I'll do two years in prison. Like she's not, she didn't grow. Like I feel like there are people, unfortunately, that have people that go to prison in their family. And they're sort of raised to be like, hey, if you do a couple years for the good of the family, whether they're gang members or mafia or whatever, they're kind of taught like how to survive and it's not the end of the world.

I don't think that's this girl's background. So, I mean, she's like, no, gonna do whatever it takes to be like, no way. But then the other side of the prosecution is like, she had seven drinks or something were accounted for based on like talking to surveillance and where they went. So that was seven drinks she had. And then the blood alcohol was tested in the morning, which would have been, which was like, I think 0.18.

So it would have been, if you're going to do the math, it would have been, which was like, I think 0.18. So it would have been, if you're gonna do the math, it would have been more at 12.45 at night. So, you know, there you go. So now you'll go to jail for two years for DUI. And so that the Boston Police Department isn't on your ass. I mean, I definitely, from what you're describing, don't think she did it, but. It's juicy.

Really is. Okay, here with it, Karen Reed's lawyer says police manipulated video of her car after Sergeant acknowledges footage is inverted. Just like, ugh. Speaking of which, find the reindeer. She is suing, the real life Martha is suing Netflix for $50 million. She is saying they did not mask her identity

enough to protect her and she has been harassed since the show has aired and it was not accurate what they portrayed. And then they didn't mask her identity enough. And they are standing by baby reindeer himself and they're saying if you're watching on YouTube the photo of her kind of looks like she's on watch what happens live which I'm like kind of into I mean of course she's being harassed she she admitted who she was like she's like here I am

yeah me right and now you're being harassed. I mean, of course. Lady, you're a fucking stalking, stupid bitch, okay? Excuse me. Like, sorry that everyone now knows who you woohoo. Take your bullshit and go cry on a plank at the bottom of a pirate ship and jump in the water. On the water. I mean. Oh, I'm sorry, does your privacy mean something to you?

Well, it didn't all those other people, including him, that you harass. Exactly. So now you know how it feels. You went on Piers Morgan, you didn't need to do that. You've put yourself out there. You're a thirsty troll. I cannot stand this lady. Like, you're gonna sue Netflix for $50 million?

I hope they sue you for $50 million, you asshole. Like, I'm like not in any capacity. She is such a... And you know what? Maybe she's mentally... She's insane. She's whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. This is who you are. Well, she was a lawyer. So not for nothing at this point. Who got fired for being a stalker? Yeah, I don't think she had a big salary that she lost. Kick her down 50,000 or 100,000 for using her likeness and call it a day. And she'll be like, OK, great. I'll go stock other people in bars.

Yeah, I mean, who is she going to stock now? They might want to settle it, but I always think sometimes these people don't, whether they're Bravo with Caroline Manzo and Leah McSweeney and all that. And they don't want to do that because then it sets a precedent. And think about how much content they do

based on people's stories and whatever, and we don't wanna start doing that. I just feel like it's, she's, it makes me feel like so angry and like a caged animal. Like this guy who is, and listen from the movie watching, he's not even likable either. He can go on the plank too and jump in the water. However What she did to him how she controlled him how she like? Violated him in every way. It just is another violation to go out there and now you're gonna sue and be the victim

You're not the victim you victimized. And now I feel like a victim because you're out there asking for money. And in fact, I'm gonna sue you, lady. We should sue Heather because she's the one who made us watch that. And we weren't going to. I do think a loss that might happen where I forced you guys to watch something

you felt pressure to, you felt you couldn't say no. You don't be the orgasm doc. We are, yeah, and then it could be portrayed to be sexual harassment because some of this stuff was sexual, this was sexual, the orgasm doc was sexual. So now it's a two prong. You're a recurring sexual assault. Let's not forget seeking sister wife.

Now we've got a three prong. Yeah, that one too. And that's over and over many seasons. And now that's going against my faith. So now if I text you, I have to say, it is suggested that you watch this, but not mandatory by any means. And I'm seeing, and I also,

I'll have to put you, oh yeah, CC on the text or a group text, someone else as a witness, just like, you know, when someone gets examined, they now like have a nurse present just so someone can't say you did something wrong. Yeah. Yeah. You can't be alone with the doctor. Yeah. I have to start worrying about myself now. Yeah. Well, wait till you hear this latest story. Kenya Moore of Kenya Moore Hair Care. Kenya Moore Hair Care. Kenya Moore Hair Care.

That's a famous scene from Real Housewives of Atlanta when, who was the other girl? She's not on anymore. Marlo. Marlo was having an event for her wigs and then Kenya Moore showed up saying like wigs or not you gotta have soft edges or something. Well not just that she came in with a full marching band. And took the, well now they're filming and this is what is alleged but there is audio

that's been released. Okay. So it seems like this happened. But what everyone's saying is they're filming the show. There is this new girl, this very pretty new girl, who knows why they're not getting along. But allegedly, Kenya in her presentation of what keeps your edges looking great, she gets up there and she's in this purple dress. And because I saw a little bit of video and she accuses her of being an escort and allegedly even showed photos of her giving someone oral. Huh! While they're filming the show

and while the person, I believe, was there, maybe she wasn't. And so this starts going crazy on Saturday with people talking about it. And everyone's like, what the fuck is happening to these shows? Now we're doing revenge porn among women and like, why? What would ever constitute someone to do this,

whether it was true or not? Kenya writes on her stories, "'Don't believe what you're hearing and seeing, duh duh duh.'" The girl writes, "'I don't deserve this kind of bullying and hazing and like this isn't true, I'm not an escort this or that.'" But then after they both put out that, then came her actually, what appears to be,

saying it and everything. Now, people, there are plenty of witnesses that are saying it happened. Yeah. And I just can't believe that Kenya, after being on the show for this long, at her age, would think that this would fly. Like I'm just shocked that you would think I don't care how awful the person is like or what they did to you or you're trying

to take they're trying to she's trying to take her pretty shine or whatever because this girl's gorgeous. I mean, it shows how far we've come from Jersey, which was probably in like 2011, where like the whole Teresa shakedown how Melissa was a stripper. We used to just try to buzz people for being strippers, which was, and whether they were or they not, and who cares, and fine, but like it sticks with you and you're never gonna shake it

and you're a stripper now. So you're now just, you can go down on someone and not be an escort, that's one. But also that you'd have a photo of it is just really like, what? And subjecting other people to basically porn that wasn't asking to see it, if this is in fact true.

But wouldn't that mean that either her or the guy, who released the picture? I don't know. this is in fact true. Yeah. But wouldn't that mean that either her or the guy, who released it? Who released the picture? I don't know. This is all that I, that's all that's like out there. And like, It's gone too far.

A Bravo shouldn't have let it be leaked so they shouldn't let it on there. Right. And well, obviously there, she did not probably share what her plan was for her event. She just said, fill my event. This is what I'm guessing is happening. This is just my opinion. And she's like, oh, I'm going to get this bitch.

Never ran it past anybody, except maybe the one guy that's helping her with her iPad, and then puts it up there thinking, oh, this is going to go over wonderfully, like the same way Kelly Osborne thought her joke about and I ask you Donald Trump, if there's no Latinos left in this country, who's going to clean your toilet, Donald Trump? And I think she probably thought that was great. Maybe the guy doing her hair thought it was great. Nobody thought it was through. Heather Rizal keeps bringing it up. She probably hates me, whatever. But it was one of those things where I'm like,

okay, you clearly didn't think this through, but I don't think any producers were in on it. Now, this will never see the light of day. So you don't think this will be on the show? Never, but maybe they won't show it, but maybe the aftermath of it, I mean, that's a reality show, the aftermath of her, yeah, I wanna see the aftermath. I wanna see breaking aftermath of her. Yeah, I want to see the aftermath.

I want to see breaking the fourth wall. I want to see the producers being like, what the fuck were you thinking? I want her being like, well, I'll just say it wasn't true on Instagram. Oh, shit. And then I want to see me on there talking about it. And then I want them to be like, now what do we do? We have to do it. And then her just have to do either dig her hole deeper or totally apologize or say it

was, you know, my hairdresser's idea and throw him out of the bed. I don't know what's gonna happen. But they will say that Kenya accused her of being like a sex worker. Which again, nothing wrong with being a sex worker today. No. It was a bigger deal in 2009

that Melissa allegedly may be stripped when she said I was just serving drinks. Also, who cares? But like, yeah, now this now you're you're a feminist if you're a sex worker and you're the greatest person ever who it's your body do whatever you want. Like literally there it's yeah the slut shaming and the revenge porn is not anything anyone is down for today, which is good. Kenya is working over time. She's working over time with with no Nini coming back and now Portia's is down for today, which is good. Because it's not your business. She's working overtime with no Nini coming back

and now Portia's back. She's just like, cause you know the ratings, that was the biggest dip in ratings that Bravo oversaw was Atlanta last season. So now they brought Portia back, thank God. And so Kenya's like, let's just do the thing, but it's only going to continue to escalate and escalate and escalate until now we've got,

you murdered someone and here's the receipts. I've got the receipt at the reunion and you're printing it out from Twitter. You did murder this person. It's like, when are we gonna stop and just get back to the drama of like, don't fucking talk about my extensions at my charity event. You didn't have my back.

Yeah, where's my back? Right, I don't know that we can go back, you know? It's just like, well, we'll get into the, at my charity event. You didn't have my back. Yeah. Where's my back? Right. I don't know that we can go back, you know? It's just like, well, we'll get into the what's going on in New Jersey in a minute. Oh, here we are in New Jersey. Okay, let's talk about what's going on in New Jersey in a minute. I talked a lot about it last week. The latest episode, which was on on Sunday night, was the finale of the episode, the final scene of the episode was the FUTAs sit down with

Louis and Teresa. And the John FUTA is like, I don't know why you would bring it up out in the public. She's like, yeah, but it was out there. They're like, yeah, you said on camera that you'd bring out the fact that I was a drug dealer when I was a minor selling weed, which is now, but really where they're upset is that she brought his ex, the mother of their child, into the forefront who was convicted of crack that put him in a horrible car accident, who's now talking to these bloggers, which then are putting it on the internet and then they're talking about and they were like Why would you do that? and then

You know that here is the the girl Rachel who adopted the 16 year old boy and they're just like he's like Why would you and then she's like we did it because you came after Louie at the reunion? And I don't even know why he came after so they're like we you know, it's tit-for-tat They're like it's different like you're fucking with our family and our child's mother who's not right in the head and whatever. So they leave, they don't resolve it. So that's what's going on there. What are you thinking is how do you feel about the ugliness

of people all going after each other's? Listen, I would say they did bring up, everybody was lurking in Louie's past. Everyone loved, Heather, you made a full video and it was one of the best videos you've ever made. You had a full cast of like nine girls where you reenacted. That's right.

It's so good. Let me just remind people. I'm obsessed with that. It was my birthday weekend. So this is like, oh my God, this might be the three year anniversary of Louie going to this warrior camp. The men's? In Laguna. And but it was done. But this was a video from a couple

years prior. And one of his exes put it out there or gave it to somebody because he sent it to her because part of the warrior camp is like, you know, take accountability if you are a dick to your woman. And they're all sunburned and he's sitting there with some other guys from the warrior camp and he's pouring his heart out to this woman and he's saying like, I'm gonna come back, we're gonna get married, we're gonna raise our kids right,

da da da da. And what was funny about it in my opinion is you had guys screaming off camera for what also he should say. No, they're all behind him. Behind him, but there was a couple off cameras too that were like, maybe they were all saying, but they're like, tell him you're an asshole. I'm an asshole. Tell him your story, something like that.

And so when I saw that, I did a parody of it with my girlfriends where I was pleading my heart out to Peter and saying I was going to be a better wife. I was going to learn how to make more than one chicken dish. And they were like, tell him you won't keep cooking that boring chicken breast anymore. And I'm like, tell him you won't buy any more black shoes. I won't buy any more black shoes. I already have 14 pairs. That should be enough.

And there's all these girls behind you like a pyramid. And they're like, yeah a pyramid. Wearing sunglasses. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's so funny. And then to do it though, I did the Jersey accent and I put it on another phone to have it yelling

because they just had to keep their faces straight. The production value was very high. I know, and everybody just wanted to go and float in the pool. I'm like, no, we're doing a sketch. And then they're all there trying not to laugh So i'm like this listen, so yes people dredged up his past with his ex Everybody was super happy to get the receipts and margaret lover hater

She is the queen honey like of getting everyone's business. She literally like brought to the forefront Jennifer Aiden's husband cheating on her, which wasn't even a poorly kept secret in Jersey. Very few people knew. Margaret put that not only into Jersey, but on camera. But now everyone's like, oh, Teresa shouldn't expose this guy for his past

when that's the whole name of the game there. Well, you're right. I've kind of forgot about that. That's probably why Jennifer Aiden and Teresa are so tight and anti Margaret. And then Margaret feels like they've come after her business. They've contacted her son. So it's very, and then of course, Melissa and Teresa

have never liked each other. Right. And, but you can be on any side. But you can be on any side. Right, digging up, yeah. But what I'm saying is Teresa says in the scene, I never throw the first punch. each other and, but you can be on any side. What I'm saying is Teresa says in the scene, I never throw the first punch. And if you really go back and look,

you will see like she attacks back, people went into Louie, of course. I mean, he's permanently sunburned from the accountability video, still sunburned. I don't know what's going on there. If he's like, he's got a blood pressure issue. I don't know. But it's like, she, this is what they all do.

So to just go in on her, and I really like Fuda. Rachel. Yeah, I like that girl. I think she's funny and great. And I liked her with Danielle and even with Teresa, like, and Jennifer Aiden's really funny. I like the funniest people. Margaret's pretty funny too.

But it's like- They're all funny and like fun to watch. It's sad that this season has not made me laugh once. It sucks. Because they're not even, the editors aren't even trying to do like funny things in post. You're right.

And listen, and all of them have been nothing but lovely to me and totally nice. And, but I'm not on the show and hanging out with someone a couple times at a cocktail party, I'm not going to be like not report on it the way I'm reporting on it. So I do think it's, I've said it before, I think it's gross that social bloggers were used

to put out stuff on Twitter that they then can read. And if they, you know, what came first, the chicken or the egg, that seems to be being revealed. So, but you're right. They're all guilty. They're all guilty. They're all guilty of trying to drum up some shit. And that's unfortunate because we don't want

to see people go to prison. No, we don't. We didn't like St. Teresa go. We don't want to see people's lives be ruined and their marriages be ruined and their businesses be ruined. No, we don't. We didn't like seeing Teresa go. We don't want to see people's lives be ruined and their marriages be ruined and their businesses be ruined. No, no, no. But I really do feel like Bravo is scared shitless and that's why we're not having a reunion.

And they're just like, we just need to put this, this is too scary. But I will say in the moment of that dinner, just if you're living in the moment, because the show is nothing but if we forget about the past, now we're just living in the moment because the show is nothing but if we forget about the past now We're just living in the moment. Yeah basing like who we like in that moment. I was not feeling John Fuda Yeah, I wasn't I didn't I died I wasn't feeling it What I didn't see really you have to give me an apology and she goes I am apologizing and that should have been it

Like that's not enough. Well, what I hate that when that happens when you're like, all right, like, you know. You actually don't want an apology. You actually want to fight and hate me and whatever. You're not gonna forgive me. And that's where I was out. And listen, to Louis' credit, he didn't say anything. He literally sat there. And that guy is the most alpha traditional male,

you're gonna talk to my woman like that type of guy. And he let that guy play himself out, talking to Teresa like that. And I have to say, I did feel, I felt that. I felt like, you are wrong, sir. You don't want anything but a fight, and now you look like an asshole. I think their biggest thing is digging up this,

this obviously fucked up woman that struggled with drugs, alcohol, that has a criminal past, who doesn't have a relationship with her son. And, you know, as you know, no one ever wants to give a stepmother like credit. It's always like the villain in the Disney thing. And she's been a really good mom to her child, to her son, and she adopted him and stuff. And so it's just extra hurt. And like, and now, and you know, and now Theresa's a stepmother, Margaret's a stepmother, like people should have some respect for that. But they did that to Louis with Louis X.

Right. They did there. And for at this point, back to even the Atlanta thing with Kenya, you better just be acting like you're running for president if you don't want every single thing that you've ever done Right whole life one revealed or two just lied about right even if you didn't do anything And suddenly you just looked like a stripper one night. You're a stripper and now we're bringing in hi there What's that lady from Jersey? Oh god, you know, she's like hello or whatever

Kim D's gonna comment You're a stripper and you're like, no, I just dressed like a stripper for Halloween that one time. And, but now you're a stripper forever. It's like, you can't go on these shows without like your whole past being like, you, you know, anything you have ever done in your life will be weaponized at this point.

It is, I don't know where they're gonna go from here. I mean, I don't know where they're gonna go either.. I mean, I don't know where they're gonna go either. And I think that's why they're just like, let's not to the reunion. Let's let this settle. Let's figure it out. We're fucking scared. Andy's probably like,

I don't want Louie and Bo Deedle going into my shit. I'm telling the story being like, don't go into my stuff either. Like, I mean, what, everyone's just gonna be scared. Like, I'm just saying, hey, like, yeah. Can you believe then the name Bo Deedle is just rolling off our tongues? Bo Deedle, I mean, and now everyone knows who Bo Deedle is.

I mean, why aren't we talking to Bo Deedle on here? Like Bo Deedle must be the most accomplished private investigator that's ever lived. I mean, the guys like Carobbo. I'm gonna hire him when I need one. For seriously. Okay, so Teresa wore a Mugler body suit in purple and yeah, there was some talk going on. Listen, I have a big fear of camel toe, big fear.

And that is why I will not buy any exercise pants that have a seam going up the crotch. Do you wear Lululemon? I do, but it's very hard to find where they, I'm wearing them right now, where they have a seam. Let's see the cam toe. No, see, a seam like this. Oh yeah, no, there's not even a cam toe there.

She doesn't have one. She doesn't have water. But they barely make them. And, but being that I'm tall and stuff, the length will... So anytime I feel there's anything like that, there was a little thing that you could buy. Basically, if you're really into jam ladies, just take a panty liner.

My panty liner sometimes will go up there. So it's not... Yeah, my shit will eat a panty liner. My panty liner sometimes will go up there. So it's not. Yeah, my shit. Now it's the only thing that you could buy that was that someone like a like a camel. Didn't we watch on sorry, on the on one of the reality shows in Giselle? Yeah, Giselle and Ashley, G and A are making like a camel toe thing. Sweat wick non. Who is this? Giselle and Ashley on Potomac.

It's called G&A. Oh, because it's the same thing as the workout. It's a sweat wick, non-cam toe workout pant, which of course we will all be buying. Now they're check- Look, it's like, I'm gonna shut it cause I feel like who cares? Like it happens to the best of us.

But I mean, I just had to talk about it because it was just- Yeah. I'm not a fan of this- I thought it looked sexy. I'm not fan of this outfit, but whatever. She's got a good body. So anyway, they asked her on Watch What Happens Live,

have you heard from Dina Manzo since her ex-husband who was also brother-in-law to Caroline and actual real brother to Caroline's husband, Albie, or Albert. Have you heard from her since he was convicted? It felt like she was a little nervous with the question. And she's like, yes, I texted her and she hearted it. I think she was being very honest. I definitely, you know, there's been talk that they have not been as close. Dina didn't come to the wedding. It could be that Dina didn't want to go to the wedding because of the lights

and the cameras and all that that she has just left behind. But other people think that maybe something went on and they're not as close, whatever, or it was because Dolores also wrote a letter in defending the guy, not in defending it, saying, oh, you know, he has a good character. He should be let out on bail. The letters were about being let out on bail. The letters were not, now they may ask for new letters to before sentencing, but the letters that Caroline and Dolores wrote were let him out on bail, which was pre-conviction, which is not great, but... It's not going to age well. It's going to be like Nickelodeon.

Right. And now, but now are they going to ask for new letters and who's going to participate in new letters because he's looking at, you know, decades of time. Because this is the guy that beat up Dina and her boyfriend. Yes. So these people are writing letters in defense of his character. They were writing letters asking for him to be out on bail. Okay.

But now, oftentimes defense will now ask for a character's letters to say, this is why he shouldn't get 25 years. This is why we're asking for less time because he's done all these wonderful things. So we'll see if they write for that. But it did seem, you know, but I also feel like, look, your job, unfortunately, is your life and your relationships. And when you have a rift in your relationship and you're a public person,

women are very interested in that. So women are interested in where Dina and Teresa stand. So I think she definitely wrote her. And I think Dina definitely hearted it where it's like, right now I'm not, I believe they're probably like, Dina's probably like, right now I'm not in a place to fuck with you.

It may not be forever. Just while you're filming the show, in light of that, I just don't want chatter to start and I just wanna keep it like, hmm. Well, as someone who's been recently like, you know, we have been ghosted or whatever. I thought that was really indicative of like their friendship that Teresa reached out

and Dina hearted it. She didn't ignore her. She didn't pretend she never got it. She didn't do it in three days. Like, you know, Hannah Berner did and we're watching old episodes of Summer House. Don't ask me Why, probably Depression. And I think, I thought that was cool

that Teresa told the truth, and that I think they will be back friends, and whether it's because of Louie or whatever it is, I do believe in their friendship, I love their friendship. And I think that was big of both of them, not to just be like, she doesn't like me now, so I'm not gonna reach out. Well, I mean, they have so many decades

and she is the godmother and all that stuff for the youngest girl, so we'll see. But I thought this was crazy. This came from a Juicy Scooper. This girl is a new person on Dubai. And she looks just like Jennifer Aiden. Whoa, I thought that was the same person. Yeah, and I saw it in a preview and I'm like, why is Jennifer Aiden in Dubai?

Between the plastic surgery, I'm telling you, it's really hard to tell people apart nowadays. It really is. I saw Emily from OC and I thought it was Khloe Kardashian. Oh yeah. I saw Emily from OC and I thought it was Khloe Kardashian. Like, I mean, she's giving like, maybe not now, but when Khloe Kardashian was brunette, I was like, whoa, she's, I mean, and looks great, but it- When I was at BravoCon,

I mistook people for other Bravo people. Yeah. I can't remember who it was, but I ran up and I was like, Dureet! And it wasn't Dureet. And so it's like, I'm like, oh, but it was, but I ran up and I was like, Dureet! And it wasn't Dureet. And so it's like, I'm like, oh, but it was another Bravo person. It wasn't just like a lady walking around.

I was like, it's very hard to tell, you know, when everybody's getting the lips and the nose and this and that. It's like you almost have to like look into someone's eyeballs to be like, are you who I think you are? Do you like them doing it or do you? Because we did watch Old Dallas too and Carrie Duber because we did watch old Dallas too, and Carrie Duber. Not that this is so deep, but Carrie Duber has recently,

she was a person on Dallas, has changed her face. She looks so different. Finally in Locken too. But it was like, but I'm like, I wasn't like that. Well, let's say Jen Fessler, she did that Bravo makeover, the first like reunion. And I thought Fessler, she did that Bravo makeover, the first reunion. And I thought, well, whatever she did, I thought she still really looked

like the essence of herself. She kept it all totally. And I was like, to me, that's what I like, just because once you get used to someone, and people can be pretty and not look the same exact way everybody else does. What if they also did just like a 23 and me, like, and then you realize that like, they were really related and you're like,

oh, it wasn't the plastic surgeon. It was that you guys were related and you'd get into the same plastic surgeon. Your actual first cousins. Wow, and you're starting a clone army, which is also weird. J-Lo, okay. She's wearing her diamond again.

Of course, my theory was, I don't think they're in that much trouble. This was to mask the fact that she had to cancel the shows. We don't want their marriage to be in trouble. We want marriages to stay together. But Meghan McCain went on her podcast and said that she wasn't her favorite on the view and that there was this guy that his whole job was to hold up a lighted mirror for when she got it got ready. And I'm like, and she's JLo and she's going on TV. So now we're criticizing people if they bring their own glam. Like,

I'm so sick of like the diva shaming. Like, is she hurting this person? Did they find out that he was living, you know, in a room and he was being human trafficked to work and he doesn't really have papers? And, like, or was he a guy, like, really happy to be a makeup artist assistant who's 22 years old and being paid and working with the biggest person ever? Like, why is it always something like negative? I will tell you, I have met J. Lo on three

different occasions and every single time she was fabulous. Once on the Chelsea Lately Show, she was great. I touched her waist. I asked her about her skin. The next time was at the Kardashians Christmas party when she was with Casper. I talked to her about her tour and her blue blood cop show. Totally nice. And the last was, ran into her at Saks. Recognized me and a delight. Wow!

Now I am not someone necessarily on the street, but like I have not heard a ton of mean stuff. And I'm like, now, but now like, also you're on a show. Like if I, I just have kind of like just the constant, all the eyes on you and every single thing you do could be like deciphered. I just am like, relax a little bit. Like, you know, she's doing probably on a test show. You're probably the third show she did that day.

I'm with you. Normal life. First of all, she is paying that person. I'm sick of the diva shaming. I did a commercial with Sofia Vergara. I was a bridesmaid. It was early in the morning. She's whatever she's doing.

And it was freezing. You're playing a bridesmaid. Yeah. And all of a sudden we found out Brandi was actually in the wedding. I mean, when they got married. Oh, Joe. He mentioned Elia.

And the wedding was a commercial. And she has a person that's holding, it's freezing. It was in December, the last week in December, the last week you can work before Christmas. And ungodly. It was like 6 in the morning. And we're in spaghetti straps. And she's there, and she has someone with a heater on her

and everybody around me was like, that's just fucking annoying. And that's just, and I'm like, what? I would have a heater on me if I could. She's the star of this. Of course she's coming out in a fur coat and then put the heater on her. Why are we mad at Sophia Vergara?

What we're mad at is we don't have a heater. Right. Like it's, of course she has one that doesn't make, or in the different commercials, like Julia Roberts has a certain time door to door. She lives in Malibu and she's like, I'm gonna give you eight hours door to door. So, and people are talking shit about her.

And I'm like, that's like the most genius thing I've ever heard. Right. They would keep her ass on set for 16 hours. Why is she gonna do that for a Lancome commercial? She's not going to. She's gonna be like, film me for four hours. You're not gonna make me do 40 takes walking up the stairs. I'm Julia Roberts.

These are things you get to do after working very hard and you're not, it's wonderful and beautiful. It's like, we're never gonna talk shit about JLo, Megan, McCain. Now I also wanna say, if I may add two things. One, I did watchlas and I did enjoy it Okay, I don't care what anybody says fuck it too Listen with all due to our sissy Megan, okay. Yes

With all and this comes with with with love because we have said the view is now unwatchable without her Yeah, I've said it and it is it's not the same show however, Megan as Literally a person who is seen as may I say the most deeply unpleasant person who's been on the view as a host This is just a troll. It's unfair. It's hypocritical You don't get to say that. You are combative. You are retaliatory. You are controversial. You are debate. You are a person who likes debate. You are a person who does what they can in order to

make people feel very very strong feelings. So if JLo pays someone to hold a mirror or put her makeup on who's not hurting anyone or saying anything to anyone or doing anything to anyone, this is just the height of hypocrisy. Megan, this is Julie talking. But we love you. But we love you. And I will say when she came on Chelsea Laley, which was like the last season, I remember hearing that, you know, she was, her people said, okay, we'll have her come on. The hair and makeup people need to be paid this much.

And they were negotiating that fee because, you know, normally no one would ask for that. Well, you're not J.Lo. And if her people are getting paid, great. Good for them. Well, yes. And if then the network decides that it's worth it to have J.Lo and keep her happy because she's going to bring viewers, which will bring ad money, then we can pay her hair and makeup people more. It's the same thing. I'm sorry, are the extras also supposed to be in the trailer with Tom Cruise? No. I mean, it's like there's something that doesn't mean he... Yeah, if you hear that he the extras also supposed to be in the trailer with Tom Cruise?

No, I mean, it's like there's something that doesn't mean he, yeah, if you hear that he yells at them and spits them in the face, we want to hear that. But like the constant of just like, oh, no, we're not all equal. This is not how it works. Like this is a, yeah. We're equal in the sense of you treat people with respect. You were at my wedding, Denise. You were at my wedding, Denise with respect. You were at my wedding, Denise.

You were at my wedding, Denise. Megan McCain. You were at my wedding, Denise. The Denise person said something negative about Megan. Made a negative about her. Come on, Megan. You cannot, you just cannot be this person. I will not allow it.

Megan McCain's drooling. She's cloud chasing, so she gets in the news and it worked perfectly. Yes, but at the same time, we're talking about people in a work environment who are getting paid to do certain things. As a PA, if I'm paid to run around and I had a job right to take a guy's crusty oatmeal out of his car, okay, wash his pan, in the pan,

in the pan, in the pan, in the pan. in the pan, and then take his car for a car wash and then bring it back to set as a PA. Do you think that that's normal? That's not normal. That's almost abusive. I had a job for years where I had to literally take off the diapers of shit and wipe the asses of men. off the diapers of shit and wipe the asses of men. Do you not think that's disgusting?

Yes, they were my kids. But why? It's getting hot in here. Let's take off all your clothes. Yes, Freddie's referring to, that was the hit song. And I would undress break to that every morning. Yeah. So you don't think I'm not violated as a woman of course there is an equality There's a lot. There's a quality and then there's work. There's ridiculous. I mean, I'm sorry exactly

There's really but when it comes to treating people I'm not I am a big proponent for everyone gets treated with kindness and respect and with whatever. But yeah, there's some jobs that seem like, oh, but we're getting paid. And that's just where it's at. And if JLo wanted to pay me to hold the mirror, go ahead. But also, Megan has nothing to lose. She's not on the view anymore. I get it.

But I'm also like, exactly, you're right. It's very hypocritical. It's like, this story wasn't juicy enough to just say she wasn't my favorite. exactly, you're right. It's very hypocritical. It's like, this story wasn't juicy enough to just say she wasn't my favorite. Whatever, you said it fine. You're calling your dad's best friend decrepit and old, bitch, come on. Can't be doing it.

We can't be doing it. We can't, let's not do this. We're better than this. We're better than this. This popped up yesterday and my heart beat. This girl, Morgan Monet, is doing a TikTok that was getting a lot of action because she was grading celebrities that she has served. And she told a story about Jackson Brittany.

In a restaurant? Yes, in a restaurant. So I get the one said about Jackson Brittany. And she, it's kind of funny about it, she goes, this is such a Jackson Brittany story but Jackson went to go pay, his card was declined for who knows why. He took Brittany's card, that went through. I think we know why. And then he tipped above 20, okay? So they got their money but they were like that – she was joking saying that's just

a very – that could be like out of inter-pump rules. Like then of course he tipped really well on her but he probably would have tipped well on his own and whatever. They got their money, but they were like that. She was joking, saying that could be out of anti-pump rules. Then of course he tips really well on her, but he probably would have tipped well on his own and whatever. I've been around Tom Schwartz and all of them and they all tip very well to bartenders and things. So then I saw that I popped up. My heart, because I'm like, I don't know what this girl is going to say.

I think I'm always a delight and I always tip, but God, I've been walking around this town for 30 years. I don't know if someone has a story. I just don't know. Anyway, it was a great story. I got a 10 out of 10. Oh, okay. She said that I was there for the Vanderpump,

for the Valley when he had his hair product thing. And I went up and I- At Skybar. Yeah, Skybar, and it was an open bar. But I also kind of asked questions, how does this work when there's filming and da-da-da-da? Do they also tip you for your hours being here? Because does everybody know to tip when it's an open bar? Some people don't. And you should. If they're allowed. Sometimes at a wedding or something, they won't have those cups there. They're like, don't do you should if they're if it's allowed. Sometimes at a wedding or something, they won't have those cups there. They're like, don't do that. We've got it covered. But if you're at a party or something, usually you can give them money

at tip or not. Anyway, I did tip her and thank God she said it. And I was like, stay prayed up. I was like, seriously, I was I mean, thank God. So, but I was kind of like, I don't know if I worked at, and I like you girl, cause you said something nice to me, but I'm curious if this blows up or after I talk about it, is she still at the Skybar and would the Skybar tell her, can you stop doing these videos? Yeah, I mean, I don't think the videos are a great idea.

Morgan Monet sounds like a drag queen, so I do like her name. Julie gave like $200 at the Valley premiere night. That was an open bar, which was so classy. Meanwhile, we give money because one, we're too drunk, and two, we wanna get our drinks right away, we wanna cut the line. But I will say with tipping,

and we've been out to dinner with you a million times, you've treated us a million times, and you're always generous tipper, if ever someone on this table doesn't do a good tip, that's simply because one was too buzzed and did the math wrong. Because you walk away like, bitch, I tipped 30 bucks.

It's like, what? That was $600. You're like, oh my God, I thought that was so much. Something like that could happen. And it could be seriously a mistake. And I would hate for someone's, that story to chase someone. Now, if there's 25 people that have that story, then that's a thing.

But I'm just like, in this day and age, like God, like one TikTok could like really fuck up someone's reputation and it could have been a mistake like that. It could have been because for me, I would have I worked at swingers. There was a ton of celebrities that came in there a ton. And I felt like now we didn't have huge bills like six hundred dollars, but I was more offended by 15% on the dot because I was like, you really had to go out of your way to just give me four bucks. Like you're waiting for me to bring you a dollar back

and I gotta get that out of my way print and give you a dollar instead of giving me a $5 bill. But if somebody goes way under, especially in an expensive restaurant, I think you can imagine that they just are buzzed and have a math problem. Sometimes it's hard to figure out the tip. Can't see, you didn't bring your stupid fucking

reading glasses, you're shining your phone, you don't have a young person to do the tip, or even the young people you're like handed to do it for me. And then it's like, and my dad used to do that and I'd be like, I don't know if I can honor the tip. Yeah. You know, there's a million different reasons that can happen, but I would think unless

it's 15% right on the dot, like they either tipped you well or they made a mistake. But I mean, now the thing is like people talk about, you know, obviously they don't have this in, you know, other countries and stuff. So not only do we tip in, we're tipping on every iPad on tipping every other thing, but now you have to know that everybody that you're tipping has a TikTok account. And you don't know if they recognize you or not, which is also good. So they're getting paid more from people

that are recognizable. But I was like, I mean, this is just, but anyway. I'm glad that it all worked out. Meanwhile, Jax is getting bad reviews, his restaurant. And I want to say I had two or three great occasions there, and I liked the food, and it was delicious. And I want to say I had two or three great occasions there and I liked the food and it was delicious. And the atmosphere.

So I don't know if the same people are the ones that went to Schwartz and Sandy's and wrote the mean Yelp reviews because they thought they were bad boyfriends and they were bad husbands. Are they saying that because they believe that he's been a bad husband to Brittany? And then and then there's also the same people that will run up and ask for a photo and then also go see their live performances, even though they probably wrote a mean yelp. And say, you blocked me.

But if they're writing it mean to be mean to Jax because of how he treated Britney, well, then they're barking up the wrong tree because she owns that bar too. Right, right. It's not helping. Yeah. And that's just dumb.

Dumb. I mean, Shorts and Sandys is good helping. Yeah. Not helping. And that's just dumb. Dumb. I mean, Shorts and Sandys is good and fun too. Great atmosphere. Either Tom or the other Toms seems to always be there. They're completely cool. I mean, I thought Jackson's was a really fun spot. I did too.

In the Vowels. And I love that everyone who's writing these things are just perfect people. Yeah. They just have never done anything in a relationship. They're just perfect, perfect people who can judge something they watch on a show, which we all do, but to go out of your way

to hurt someone's business, that's where I go. Unless you know that this person hit someone or cut the vocal cords out of a dog's throat or something such as, then like, we leave them alone. We don't hurt their business. We let them live. Okay. So Billy Lee, I mean, somebody, the Vanderpump like sidekicks are coming to blaze.

So Billy Lee does, of course has her podcast and she says Tom Sandoval has a new girlfriend and that new girlfriend Victoria is jealous that Billy and and Sandoval might be more than friends and therefore she turned on her and she said that Sandoval and Victoria are party too much and they don't wake up till 5 and that she's a bad influence on Sandoval. So then Victoria and Kyle Chan, who has his jewelry line, who's supposed to be Tom's best friend, they go and do a podcast together up in Adam and they say, I mean, it was hard to understand. I couldn't. Basically, they just said, Billy's not telling the truth and Billy, oh, no, this was it. Billy's not telling the truth and Billy, oh, no, this was it. Kyle Chan says that Billy was spreading rumors or told Tom Sandoval that at one point, Kyle

tried to drug Tom Sandoval to take advantage of him, which is also a storyline stolen from Real Housewives of Atlanta when someone told Portia, oh, by the way, Portia, they wanted to drug you and have sex with you. Phaedra Parks. Phaedra Parks. Told Portia that. Told Portia that. Candy.

About candy, and Candy was like, I'm not Bill Cosby. So now this is going on, but it's only on these podcasts. And you know, and Billie Lee like doing these, you know, cryptic like videos where she's like, oh, baby girl, oh, baby girl, I've got the text messages from you, so bring it on, baby girl, bring it on. And everyone's like, what the fuck is going on?

Tom Sandoval better know that all three of them need to go. Listen, everyone hates Tom Sandoval. Tom Sandoval, listen to me, okay? I know what's best for you. This girlfriend's not for you. Kyle needs to be a little bit at a distance. I don't believe that Tom Sandoval was like, hey, can you guys go on this podcast and talk about it?

No. So if you're all gonna go on other people's podcasts, if it really was the case, Tom Sandoval, I think has his own podcast. Why doesn't he just have his girlfriend come on that? I think he's done with the girlfriend who used to date Leonardo DiCaprio. And, oh, which by the way,

Tiffany Haddish just is doing this joke on talk shows saying that she walked up to Leonardo DiCaprio and said, I would like to have sex with you only if you stay in character of when you were nominated for an Oscar as in the mentally challenged Gilbert Grape? Yes. Which you were underage and. Wasn't he a child in that? Well I think he was playing a child. Oh.

Who was. Johnny Depp was his older brother and the mom was 600 pounds. And she's like only if you do that. And she thinks that's a real funny joke. I don't know if that's the joke. Hey if you told it to him and he laughed and I just don't think that's the story.

It should be repeating. Certainly not Tiffany Haddish. She's on the cover of a Hollywood reporter. The queen of comedy is back and everything. So again, it's comedy, it's comedy, but it's getting some controversy. So I'm just reporting on the controversy. I'm not telling you what I think or how you should think. Anyway, I think that all these people, like, it's fine.

They all have a right to say what they want to say. She's on TV, we're talking about her, whatever. But the thing of like, ooh, I've got the receipts, baby girl, and I've got the text messages. She's like, oh my God, like, you know, and oh, we said this off camera and I'm gonna share it with you. I'm gonna share about it now.

Like, is nothing sacred? Is no friendship sacred? Apparently not. I mean, we have a whole Patreon called what Heather McDonald told us today. So I don't know what, I mean, sorry, but it's just like, and not gonna do. Do what you have to do. And also it's just the blatant, the blatant,

I don't even know what the word is, the blatant just like, yeah, listen, what? It's like when Annie, Annie that his assistant, yes, fucking was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like went and started her podcast and went and worked for Ariana and then did the podcast. I mean, honestly, for the first time, I am feeling sorry for Tom Sandoval, because I just thought about Anne the Assistant betraying him, and now the Billy and the Kyle, and the girlfriend. They're all talking about Tom Sandoval post-Ariana.

Now, I was gonna say, is the common thread though, and as Tom Sandoval said again with love, looking at our hard truths having to do with our hard selves, do we need to look in the mirror and go, why are all of the toxic people who are starting podcasts, talking shit about me, have to do with me? They're all connected to me. I need to choose my friend's wiser.

I need to be smarter about who I'm in relationships with. I need to maybe stop for a minute and just- When the Boston police department seems less scary than the people- On Broadway? Yeah, and also less confusing. Like we solved the murder in Boston and can't figure this fucking out.

I mean, like, you're like, I've listened, but I don't know what they're talking about and Kyle Chan and the drugging, and it's like, okay. I mean, it's too much. Yeah, what are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? Girls, we have to wrap this episode up.

Baby girls. Baby girls. Baby girls. Oh, baby girls. Baby girls. She goes, I'm on tour, baby girl. I don't have time to deal with this. And good for her, good for her. I mean, good for her.

But at the same time, like, you know, and then who started it? Who threw, who did the first episode? And look, I've been part of it all too. So like, I get it, but- We all get it. Tell everybody where they can get more Brandi and Julie in their lives.

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