Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Million Dollar Listing's Josh Flagg and Faking Another Kidnapping

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

Real Housewives of New Jersey Teresa‘s husband Louie has issued an apology. The Simple Life is back with Paris and Nicole. Is Ben not filing divorce on J-Lo to save her from humiliation? Did a woma...n fake her own kidnapping and almost die because of it? Then Million Dollar Listing LA’s Josh Flagg is back! We discuss Serena Williams’ disappointment of not being seated at a Paris restaurant. Josh gets into everything from his acting career as a child, plastic surgery, celebrity, friends, and why everybody calls the paparazzi on themselves. Also, where real estate is headed and what’s the best negotiating tools to use in any business. Enjoy! Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Try VIIA Hemp! https://bit.ly/viiajuicyscoop and use code JUICYSCOOP! Go to https://Hungryroot.com/JUICYSCOOP, to get 40% off your first delivery and free veggies for life Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://RocketMoney.com/JUICY Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:12 How are you guys doing? I am doing great. I am excited. I am coming to Texas. I will be there tonight at the Houston House of Blues. This is Thursday, August 8th. Make sure to come and see Chris and I. Still some tickets left.
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Starting point is 00:02:50 Make sure you go there, get those tickets. I also have a great episode with a wonderful interview with Josh Flagg, who is interesting and funny and the star of Million Dollar Listing. But first, let me do some follow-ups of some topics that we've been talking about. So we talked about Real Housewives of New Jersey. And Louis, in the episode that we all talked about, the finale episode, he's in a room with Teresa and he says, I want
Starting point is 00:03:20 Margaret to suffer and I want her son to suffer. And this was very disturbing for everybody, but Louie and Teresa, they didn't seem to respond. Now these things are edited, but that was a pretty awful thing to say. Obviously it was very awful to Margaret. This is her son who has never been featured on the show and was living a private life. And she said on the last reunion,
Starting point is 00:03:43 you called my son and threatened him. He denied it but she had pretty great receipts, his phone number whatnot, saying that he did. And the reason that he was threatening him is because they they always believed that Margaret was in communication with one of Louis' ex- girlfriends in which they were in a legal thing about, she thought he stalked her and hired Bo Deedle to send fake people into her therapy practice to try to get information on her. He thought it was just a smear campaign and lies. She tried to get a restraining order. The judge said, No, I'm not going to grant
Starting point is 00:04:25 a restraining order. I don't think that he is a threat to you. However, that particular case involving Bo Deedle and hiring people to come into a practice and act like they were somebody they weren't, that situation, that legal situation is still going on. I don't know if it's a civil situation or a private one. That's still going on. So they always felt that because Margaret at one time had DM'd this girl, the girl had DM'd her, there was some communication. They were like, we want Margaret to be subpoenaed to speak about anything she knows about this horrible ex-girlfriend. Margaret was subpoenaed and shared it with her attorney and the attorney was like, no, you don't have any information. You don't have to do this in this case. And
Starting point is 00:05:13 she let everybody know, I'm not doing this. You know, like I'm not going to do this. But they saw it as you were subpoenaed and you didn't help us out. Therefore, you are our enemy." And the whole season was, Margaret is the enemy. Okay? So today, a lot of people were very disturbed by that scene when he said about the son. Today, Louie, Teresa's second husband, wrote, the finale was very tough for me. He posted this on his stories to watch and I wanted to address it with you all. After watching the finale, I was disappointed in my actions in bringing up Margaret Joseph's son. The reason he was even brought up was because I've been dealing with being falsely accused of calling Margaret's son out of his work, which is simply not true. He denies it. For the last year, Margaret kept putting the narrative out there that I called her
Starting point is 00:06:01 son at work and I have had to deal with it knowing I am being lied on. Still, I know better not to bring up someone's child and it is something I deeply regret, so I do want to apologize and acknowledge that I was wrong. There's been a lot of toxicity on the show that has affected everyone on the show. We have been dealing with a lot of frustrating things behind the scenes and it's been very hard for our entire family and my children who have been really impacted by all that's happened at the hands of certain people. Two wrongs don't make a right and I deeply regret saying what I said." So, page six is saying, you know, that he has apologized. We don't know how Margaret is going to react to this.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I wonder if there was a sincere apology. Would it be received? Could they all be on the show together? Could they have a clean slate? I think with all these legal issues and the pointing and the accusing and of course, Teresa still saying I'll never get back together with my brother Joe and his wife, Melissa. I don't know. But I do think it was wise that he put out an apology. But it is so, it was such a weird tit for tat situation and investigating
Starting point is 00:07:16 people and stuff. And it does seem kind of scary. So I mean, I don't know. I think there has to be a real come to Jesus moment of just being like that. I think at this point, the only way to save it is to just lay it on the line. But now, what do you admit to calling the sun or is he going to say somebody else did it? I think if you're going to stick with that story, then there's got to be some that you have to say, yeah, I did do this. Yes, I did think that you did this. Or if you're Jackie, you have to just, which she is, being honest, but still it makes her so unlikable. It's a mess. But this apology, based on what I talked about on Tuesday, came and I wanted to share it with you.
Starting point is 00:07:59 The girls, Paris and Nicole Richie, are back. They're working at Sonic. This is a picture that was taken doing the return of the simple life. They are both married with kids. Paris has little, two little kids. I think Nicole Richie's kids are much older now. I saw the little girl, she looks just like her anyway. So they're doing what they did many years ago,
Starting point is 00:08:24 which was really put them on the map, made Paris so likable. It was so funny for those that you don't know it was the simple life. It was definitely a hybrid of a reality show. It was them going and taking these simple jobs. But as someone in television, a lot of the lines were produced and fed and the situations were not organic. So it was kind of a hybrid of a reality and like almost like a sketch show, if you will. But it was funny and it was entertaining. And so they are back. Now, what's interesting is when Luanne, Countess Luanne and Sonya from New York, they had their show, Crappy Lake. It really was like a simple life. These two gals go to this small town and make it happen.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And you know, for right now, it's not coming back. And I wonder if it's not coming back because I don't know if this is part of the Peacock family or what, but I almost feel like them coming back would want, you'd almost want to see more people be put into this situation. So who knows? But it is interesting the timing of these things. Janet Jackson is finalizing a deal at Resorts World for a Las Vegas residency. I'm excited for this. Unfortunately, I wanted to go see her when she was playing at Ackershire
Starting point is 00:09:38 out in the Palm Springs area, Palm Desert. I didn't go. My sister went and said it was amazing. So it's interesting to see what is going to go on. We heard that Celine, who had her triumphant return at the opening ceremony of the Olympics, that she might be coming back, which would be wonderful. There's Mariah talk. I don't know about how these residencies work, but Janet puts on a great show. residency's work, but Janet puts on a great show. This is my worst nightmare. These people got trapped in an air fryer in a plane. The plane had no air conditioning and they were trapped not moving, which is already, even if you have air conditioning, there's something about sitting on a plane for hours for whatever reason that it gives you like anxiety that
Starting point is 00:10:23 you're not moving, you're not you know. They were just suffering from panic attacks. They were sweltering sauna. The plane was held for two hours before the flight got canceled entirely. This is my worst nightmare. I just – I can't imagine like how hot it was with all those people, how you wouldn't just be like, I've got to open this door, I've got to get out.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I really have to hand it to the flight. No one thinks about the flight attendants who are also sweating their balls off and their tits off and have to tell everybody just to kill, say in our father, whatever you do, I don't know what. Try to watch something, listen to a juicy scoop in your ears as you sweat your AirPods out of your eardrums. It sounds like my worst nightmare. So, little update on Ben and Jen. This is from page six. Sarah Ferguson has slammed the actors as one of her worst interview subjects. They spoke, I guess, about a year ago when the movie Air came out. She said he was you know very rude and you know not a fun interview. And this is where I want to just talk about why I think their
Starting point is 00:11:32 relationship is over forever unfortunately. Ben and Jen there's another article that came out that said that Jennifer Lopez is furious and humiliated amid Ben Affleck's split as he holds back on filing for the divorce to protect her. So this source is saying he is not filing, even though the source says he's done with the marriage, but he's not filing because they have been married such a short time, but also because he pursued her. And she is like what I mean I remember her being on
Starting point is 00:12:07 watch what happens live and he that he brought up his hideous Falcon back tattoo or whatever the heck it was and she just kind of laughed like god bless him it wasn't a girl that was like um whatever he does this one it didn't feel like she was still in love with him. So I do believe that he was the one that once she broke up with A-Rod, who let's remember the reason we believe she broke up with A-Rod is that on Southern Charm reunion, it came out that Madison was DMing him while he was still with JLo. So shortly after that was revealed
Starting point is 00:12:50 on this reality show platform of Southern Trump, that's when she dumped A-Rod. And that's shortly after, he allegedly swooped in and really pursued her. So she falls back in love with him and is like, this is what it was meant to be 20 years later, dadada gets married. And it's like, I don't think she's ever stopped being
Starting point is 00:13:11 who she is, which is she likes to be in the limelight, she loves the publicity, she likes to be in the magazine, she sings, she dance, products. Now she's super into social media. I think that he did not realize what he was re-signing up for. When they were together 20 years ago, all of a sudden he went from wearing like, you know, Boston baseball gear to his hair slicked back, wearing a suit and then driving a Rolls Royce every day on Rodeo Drive. And everyone was like, what the hell happened to Ben Affleck?
Starting point is 00:13:45 He's been like, Jenified or whatever. And so it was like, oh, now he's with the real type of girl. He's with Jennifer Garner. She's so down to earth there. Well, that marriage didn't work out either. So they get together and I believe they had like some real passion. But I think when you're in your 50s, it's just really hard to adjust to someone's lifestyle if it doesn't fit yours and both being stars. He has said in interviews, I had an addiction to alcohol, but I believe she has an addiction and I remember seeing this interview so I'm paraphrasing. She has an addiction to the fame.
Starting point is 00:14:15 It's never enough. It's always, it's never enough likes and views and things like that. And that's just not why he got into this business. I don't think he enjoys red carpets and photos, and that's why his face does look miserable. He probably doesn't like doing interviews, press interviews. A lot of people that are actors and directors and things like that don't like all that other stuff that goes with selling the movie that you're sort of required to do. They like the work.
Starting point is 00:14:40 They like writing, directing, acting, and that's it. Maybe they don't even like going to the Oscars for that matter. I just don't think he's that. He is kind of grumpy, and even though he looks good, he is an older man, and I think he's a grumpy old man, and I still think she's kind of like that girl that wants to be out there. Then you throw in five kids between them that are all in this vulnerable, coming-of-age, teenage times, even though it seems like the kids get along.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I think that's just a lot to grapple with and dealing with exes, with the kids and all that. So then she goes to the Hamptons and riding her bike around and calling the paparazzi and all of that. So I don't think that, I just don't think it's going to work out. I think they are kind of wanting it to, like no one's actually filing because it is humiliating and so who knows when we'll really hear. But I would now at this point, I'd be really shocked if they ever came together and were loving Debbie again. I think it's just too much out there. There's too much
Starting point is 00:15:48 water in the bridge. Didn't come to her birthday. They're not living together. And I think she's hopefully coming to a place of just like, you know what, fuck you. So what if I'm married five or 15 times? I'm Elizabeth Taylor and I'll do just fine. And then other guys gonna be around the corner. Sorry, it's so Elizabeth Taylor because remember she remarried in old flame. So it's like she's very much living that life and she'll find love again. And I think at this point they should just cut their losses
Starting point is 00:16:15 and not worry about the humiliation. I mean, the same thing with Kim Kardashian. She was ended her marriage after 73 days and it's like, well, would it have been better if she wasted two years with this asshole and missed her opportunity to like meet the fabulous lover of her life, Kanye? Well, at least she had her four kids, whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:36 The point is you're not happy. Don't worry about what the public thinks. Move the fuck along. And it is what it is. So very interesting there. This crazy story, sad but weird. This woman was found screaming for help, tied to a tree, starving in India. She was American. The person was like on a hike, whatever. They rescued her. She immediately
Starting point is 00:17:00 starts writing down, who did this to you? My husband did this to me. He tied me to a tree Now that the police in India are saying they believe this American woman tied herself up that she never even doesn't even have a husband This is coming from The Daily Mail it just it just broke today. I don't know so it's like she's a Sherry Papini, but like I don't know if she tied herself wanting attention, thinking someone would be walking by any minute, and then nobody did. And then however she tied herself, she couldn't untie herself. That's what I'm assuming is that whatever she did, she couldn't undo if this is in fact true. Also I just read an article that
Starting point is 00:17:46 there's a guy that works for the transit system in New York and he wanted some days off and they wouldn't let him. So he cut his own hand to say that he was injured on the job and then they realized he did it himself. I'm like oh my god all these all these like, just a small like copycats. It's very bizarre. But this one is very sad because obviously something's really wrong with her and her fake kidnapping plan really went awry. Also last Olympic news. They're saying that Olympians have found worms in their food at the 2024 Paris Games. This swimming silver medalist revealed that, he I guess shared on social media somewhere, that there were worms in the food. Like what is going on?
Starting point is 00:18:35 This is horrible PR for Paris, but only I think only going to make us shine when the Olympics come here in 2028, because that definitely is not going to happen. We're not going to have worms in the food. We're going to have air conditioning. We're going to have nice bedding. We're going to have think about all the LA sponsors that will be like, take our sheets, take our food. It's going to be a fabulous Hollywood delight. So I'm sticking around until then because it's going to be like much better. And now for my interview with Josh Flagg.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have my friend, the fabulous Josh Flagg for Million Dollar Listing. Welcome back, you've been on many a time. Thank you. And looking cute, refreshed, young as ever. Thank you. You're only, can I say your age?
Starting point is 00:19:26 Sure. You're now 37? Well, I'll take that, I'm 38. Oh, well, we had a wonderful time. Thank you for inviting me to the most fabulous hotel in all of Europe. My pleasure, thank you for coming. Hotel Du Cap.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Hotel Du Cap. Hotel Du Cap. That, when I got there, cause you invited me for lunch, and I looked down at the pool situation, I was like, oh my God, I've seen this in a million reels and dreamt of coming to this. Oh, you didn't know that's what you were coming to? I knew I was coming to a beautiful hotel
Starting point is 00:19:59 cause my friend had told me to. And then we looked up the room rate and I said, well, that's not happening. And then when you're like, I'm here, I'm like, oh my God, this is a place that, you know, my friend Lisa told me to go to. And then we got there. I was like, so I was going off the diving board. I was swimming in the pool after we had our fun lunch.
Starting point is 00:20:18 It is spectacular. It is the place to go. That's my favorite place. Do they let people come in for lunch? Because I felt the security was very high and I had to say I was your guest. I don't, well, maybe if you have a reservation for lunch, but I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I think it's only for hotel guests and repeat customers. I don't think, maybe they do, but I don't think you could just call up and be like, hey, I'm coming in in an hour. Yeah, right, I get it. It's really the security there is pretty crazy. Oh wait, since we're just talking about that really quick, I want to talk about this story
Starting point is 00:20:46 that just happened. So, of course, Serena is at the Olympics, maybe doing some correspondence work, I don't know, but she's there with her two kids, six and four, and she tweeted, she was very angry at the peninsula in Paris because she went there with her two kids and she went to the rooftop and she wanted to have a table, and they said, I'm sorry, we can't accommodate you. And she's like, but there's all these empty tables. And they said, so she puts that tweet out and everybody's like-
Starting point is 00:21:14 Sometimes you go to a restaurant and there's empty tables and they say that all the time. Like I've been to restaurants where like, we don't have many seats and I'm like, the restaurant's empty. And then they're like, well, no, but like they have seatings, you know what I mean? Right, the reservations. So that's what I thought when I'm like, the restaurant's empty. And then they're like, well, no, but like they have seatings, you know what I mean? Right, the reservations.
Starting point is 00:21:26 So that's what I thought when I heard it, cause I'm like, it's Paris, it's the Olympics, it's a rooftop, it's the Peninsula Hotel. I'm guessing it's a pretty coveted table to get. So anyway, she put it out there and people then of course got angry at the Peninsula cause she's beloved. And they came forth and said, we're so sorry we couldn't accommodate you, we're huge fans.
Starting point is 00:21:49 All those tables were taken. We did offer you, and the restaurant was full, reservations. We did offer you a table outside, downstairs at the other restaurant, but you didn't want it. So, as I mean, I know when I went to Europe, every place I wanted to, I definitely want to have a reservation. Sure, sometimes you can walk in, but I think anywhere, LA, whatever, if you're going to go to the rooftop at the Waldorf, you better have a reservation. I mean, I don't know if the hotel did anything wrong, if the tables were reserved, if they
Starting point is 00:22:20 were not reserved, then of course, but like if they were reserved, they were reserved. I mean, she doesn't have a hard time getting a great seat anywhere. I sat across from her at Louis Vuitton Fashion Week. She was literally front row. I mean, so she can get anything she wants. I'm assuming that it was booked. Yes, so anyway, they handled it.
Starting point is 00:22:37 They got right on it. She'll probably just be quiet about it. And she'll probably, you know, they'll probably want her to come by or something. But what is it like to go to those actual real fashion shows like in Paris and how do you get invited? Well, I was laughing, I was like smiling and she smiled back at me because we were both sitting
Starting point is 00:22:55 and it was in the Louis Vuitton, the new store that they're building, they decided to do the fashion show in the construction site and it was so hot in there and everyone was dripping. She was just dripping. What city was this? In Paris.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Oh, in Paris. This was last year and we were all just like, fits there. Miserable, yeah. Oh my gosh. But no, they're fun. The best one was when Pharrell took over for Louis Vuitton. He's the men's collection designer now.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And they did this incredible show. He's really talented. And they did this incredible show, he's really talented actually, they did this incredible show on the bridge in Paris and it was like a bar mitzvah, I've never seen anything like this in my life. They must have spent $50 million on this show, and Jay-Z performed, it was crazy. My friend just went to the Dolce & Gabbana one
Starting point is 00:23:39 and she showed it to me and it was outside, it looked absolutely stunning, I can't remember what city it was, but they recently went and it was just beautiful the way it was done. It was probably in Milan. Yes, and it was outside. It was stunning. I went to one, the only one I've really been to a real one is I was invited to the Gucci one, which they closed Hollywood Boulevard and they cleaned it all up. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah, and they put all the, all of our seats were on either side. And then the models walked down Hollywood Boulevard. It was like two years ago. I go to the Gucci one every year, but in Europe. Oh, well, you're quite the person because your show, Million Dollar Listing, 15th season. That's incredible. It's longer than Knott's Landing. It says, your show, Million Dollar Listing, 15th season. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's longer than Knott's Landing. Wow, and so this is the longest running Bravo show. Or is this longer than Top Chef and stuff? This is the longest running Bravo show and I'm now the longest running Bravo Celebrity. Family member. I don't feel like you get the accolades or the respect of that title.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I don't think anyone realizes it until I just figured it out recently. I was on Watch What Happens Live and Andy was like, what? I was like, yep, I'm the longest person on the entire network. That is amazing. And of course, you know, my listeners know that I grew up in residential real estate with my parents.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I had my own license. So of course I've always loved it. And what I've loved about this show as, you know, other shows about glamorous real estate have come on, is that you guys, more than anybody, I do think buying Beverly Hills with Mauricio and his group, they do cover more of sometimes the intricacies of a deal a little bit more than like let's say of course the selling sunset. That's all just about fashion and fighting with the girls. So I always find that part really interesting when you have to give up the client, give up the listing, just be like, I don't know what to do with you, dude. And I think this season,
Starting point is 00:25:45 which you guys have four episodes out, now the other players have been in it throughout the years. You and Josh Altman, well, you've been on the longest. Josh Altman came around maybe 10 years ago. How long has he been on? Josh Altman came on probably nine, 10 years ago. Yeah, and then you had the English friends. Right, they were on for a couple years.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You had the Frederick who popped over from New York. We got rid of him real fast. You were not a fan. Nope, still not. And you had the Madison in the beginning. We had Madison. And then Tracy came on about what, four years ago? Five years ago.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I think she's perfect. I think the three of you guys, it's perfect. It's easy to follow. There's still like relationships, but it's not overwhelming. I don't know, it's leaner, it's meaner, it's better. It's more interesting. I think the show gets better every year,
Starting point is 00:26:39 which is rare, because usually shows die out. Yeah. And our ratings are up like 25%. As they come back every year to you, has there ever been a time in your life that you were like, you know what, it takes up too much time filming or whatever reason. Was there ever a time that you thought maybe you wouldn't return? Not really, because I've learned to manage my life in the show and everything. This is what I know. So it's, it balances perfectly. The answer is no.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Do you realize that you're coming up on a few years of which more of your life will have been on TV than not? Isn't that weird? Yeah, that's, well, let's see. I'm 38. So you're 38, so you've been on 15 years. Well, I've been on for 17 years. Think about COVID and think about how long it takes. I started filming when I was 21. Right. So once you turn 42, you'll have been half of my life on TV.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yes. That'll be very weird. Do you feel that in making good TV and always being yourself, that if it means telling someone off or saying something, oftentimes unflattering about yourself, sometimes when I'm watching it,
Starting point is 00:27:43 I'm like, why is he saying that about his current listing that's unflattering on TV? What if he still has it? What if he wants to sell it again? If I'm saying something negative about my own listing, that means that I've hit the wall and I am not in a good place with that seller. And I know that we're not gonna be
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Starting point is 00:30:05 on, they've been watching for 15 years, right? So just like if someone who joined Survivor after watching it for 20 years, they know the game, they know how to make themselves pop on camera, whatever. I feel like with Housewives, they come on and you're like, this person's being too performative, too performing, throwing a drink, acting like something's a bigger deal. But I feel like you guys are not like that at all. And that's what I like about it. I feel like you are always exactly the same. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. Now you have your own juicy personal life. You were married, which we saw the wedding. I know your ex. And it was a lot of fun times when things were good. You got divorced and currently we're watching the show and you're single, but now you have someone that you enjoy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah. And you told me a little bit about him and I'm thinking this could be a better pick. Well, you met him. No, I didn't meet him. Remember I had to come the next day. Oh, that's right, you came early. I was supposed to meet him.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Right, right, right. And it didn't work out because I had to go to the next country. I'm him. Remember, I had to come the next day. Oh, that's right, you came early. I was supposed to meet him. Right, right, right. And it didn't work out because I had to go to the next country. I'm sorry. Oh, so sorry. But unfortunately, we see Tracy, who is divorced with two teenage daughters, and she met a real cute guy that we met,
Starting point is 00:31:19 that I met at your birthday one time. I met the- Eric. Yeah. Yeah. And it happens in real time, as I mean, as they're filming that they break up. Now he's much younger, he's a personal trainer, he's very good looking, though they seemed very connected when I met them, but there was a big age difference.
Starting point is 00:31:37 What, like 15 years? More than 15 years. Oh really? Actually 19 years, right? And when she started to date him, it's like, I think anybody with that big of an age difference, when it's the woman and the man, like if it's a man who's 19 years older than a girl,
Starting point is 00:31:55 that guy can have his first, he can have another family at 50. He can never have, it doesn't really matter if he wants to, whatever. But with her, yeah, of course she doesn't want it. It's not totally impossible, but you don't want to start all over as a woman, like having babies. But when it first started, I was like, oh, good for her.
Starting point is 00:32:15 She just has a fun, hot guy. But then it became a more serious relationship. But then it sounded like, in the end, that seemed to have played a role. Well, I think she just realized that like, he's going to want to have kids. She's not going to have kids again. She doesn't want them. So this is obviously not going to work out at the end. So why waste the good years that she has?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Well, the juice that was dropped in the show is that also she got a message from a girl, DM'd her on Instagram and said, is this your man? We've been talking on Instagram DM. And I thought that was like such an honest real moment that so many people have to deal with, celebrity or not. But oftentimes when you're the celebrity, a reality show celebrity,
Starting point is 00:33:04 and it's your husband or your boyfriend, and then their Instagram starts to glow up a little bit, why not? He's a personal trainer, why not? He's on the show, sure. Then it's these women then that might be pursuing them or wanna see, I wonder if I can get a call back. That's why I think it's like,
Starting point is 00:33:22 if I was one of these reality stars, new to the housewives, and my husband, let's say it was just us, you know, Peter and I are on, I would definitely be like, I don't want, I'm never going to tag you, I don't want you to have an Instagram. I really don't think these guys should have an Instagram. In her case, she couldn't do that. He probably already had one when he was 28. But it is a risk of something where it's like, she goes, was it full blown cheating? I don't know, but it was flirting and talking.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I think it's bad. I think when, I know other people when a woman or whatever reaches out, you just are like, I'm not interested, and you like delete or block that person. People will send me DMs and I'll just say I'm in a relationship, done. Yeah, you don't play around, but I think sometimes it's so flattering to a guy. You gotta control yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Yeah, but I thought it was really interesting when she's like, I guess I need to date a 70 year old who doesn't know how to use Instagram. I thought that was pretty funny actually. I mean, there's also a happy medium. Right. Right. Where you have it and that you just have some real rules about it,
Starting point is 00:34:23 know that you are gonna be dim. No, I mean, like you don't have to date a 70 year old, you could also date like a 50 year old. I mean, there's something between 23 and 70. Yeah. Now, how are you and Josh Altman? Or do we have to watch the show to find out? I think you have to watch the show to find out.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And so in that you were upset because at one point you guys went and did a pitch to the CTF. We went on a listing appointment together. We were taking the listing together and then he took the listing on his own. It was that simple. And he didn't tell you? No, he didn't. Now, there's two facets.
Starting point is 00:34:56 One is that he took it without me. The second is that he put it on the market without even giving me the heads up and said I forgot to tell you. About a $30 million house or something. It was a $15 million house. And even if it was a hundred million or it was a million, it didn't matter. The point is that we, that was shitty.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah. I didn't like that. No. And I wrote him a very to the point concise text. And I basically just said, I think we need to reevaluate our friendship. And then he went ballistic on me. Kind of gaslit me and flipped the script and so made it all about how I don't listen to him and I don't care about his family
Starting point is 00:35:32 and this and that and blah blah blah just total gaslight. Well I think sometimes when a friendship has a break like that then you start going back like a lawyer you know and you're like and remember that one time that, you know, you flaked on me five minutes before we were supposed to meet back in 2019, and remember that one time you did, like I think sometimes that can happen where you're like defending your action,
Starting point is 00:35:56 and then you're like, but you haven't been perfect. You aren't that interested in my little kids. Just stick to the point. Yeah, yeah. So, well, hopefully it'll work out. Now, this was from, I think last year, but look at this outfit. Do you think, Tracy, she's quite sexy.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I remember that outfit. Hey, you could just slip your hand right in there. Right? Yeah. Aggressive. It's aggressive. Now, this one, I came across on your Instagram, which is, your Instagram is great. I was on it for like two hours last night.
Starting point is 00:36:27 It kept going down. Yeah, because you have a variety of things on there. I love real estate porn. I love looking at the beautiful real estate. But this one, you are an expert in a TMZ article about expert Kanye's real estate moves. And what do you think about Kanye's real estate moves? Share it here. I don't think he has any.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I think he's lost on every single thing he's ever bought. Stick to what he knows. Well, stick to the music. I think the music. Yeah. Yeah. Fashion is horrific. And I just remember, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:00 way back when Kim and he were still married and building their mansion in Hidden Hills and they were really living, I think she was pregnant with Saint, they were really living with Chris. That is like, that was true. You see it in the show and I happened to like come by and she was like doing something at the show
Starting point is 00:37:21 and they like surprised me with this. I remember they said, do you wanna come do you want to come and like have drinks with Chris on camera? Like, of course, you know, camera or not, I'm having a free drink. So I go over there and we walk in and they're doing like a pregnant ballet thing right in the foyer, which you know, and it really was my reaction. I was like, Oh my gosh, but it was that they were living there, you know, with North and everything because I remember it was like they would do something and then he'd be like, I don't like this marble. And then have to pull it out and then do that.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And I was like, why is she not speaking up? And being like, who the fuck cares? You picked it, that's it. Like, you know? And I think that's what happened is like more and more if she finally was like, I mean many things, obviously. But that also isn't a great real estate move. When you do something and you don't like it, it's like I would say, well then finish it up,
Starting point is 00:38:15 find something else. But to pull out like another hundred grand worth of marble that took, you know, a month to put in, I don't think that's the wisest choice. You have. Yeah, I had a house one time in the flats and I literally got to drywall three separate times and went back to the studs three different times over
Starting point is 00:38:31 because I just didn't like it. What didn't you like about, how different can a drywall be? With the floor plan. Oh, the floor plan. Yeah. Oh, and then that house you sold? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And then you bought this house that we see on the show. Oh, then I bought the house on Bedford. That this is this green house that's very unique from the street. And you said your whole life you wanted it. I've always loved it. I drove by it all the time. I love this house.
Starting point is 00:38:57 It's just gorgeous on the outside. And then I, but I bought it sight unseen. But wait, I want to hear how that happened. Well, I didn't really have a choice. The sellers weren't really selling it. And I just kept writing them letters and said, will you please sell me your house? Because I just assumed, I mean, it's got to be as magnificent on the inside as it is on the outside.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And they were just like, look, we're not interested in selling. Write us an offer. We're not showing it. But they didn't live there. So it was like the heirs or what? It's complicated. They did not live in the house, but it was filled with all their antiques and stuff. Okay. But they, so they didn't really want me to, they didn't want me to, they didn't want to show it to me because they were just thought like maybe I was trying to get a listing or maybe I was just,
Starting point is 00:39:35 who knows what they thought and whatever. I'm just like, okay, fine, I'll give you an offer on it. I don't even just see the house. I've seen enough from the street. That's good enough for me. So you offered how much? I think I, I think it sold for not close to nine. I don't remember exactly. Nine million. Okay. Something like that. So you closed it. Closed escrow. You never asked for a home inspection and you never asked to view it.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Not even in escrow. I did. And they said, no, we're not interested. Like, you want the house that bad? I was like, fuck it, whatever. Okay. So then you go in. I didn't get to go in right away because they also had a year lease back, which they didn't honor. They stayed for like a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:40:14 So I didn't really get access until like six months ago. And then I went in. With the cameras. Yeah. And it was not quite what I was expecting. So now where's that situation now? Exactly as you saw it on the show. So you still own it?
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, I still own it. And you still are going to make it your dream? Yeah, I have plans and permits that are being drafted right now. So I don't know if I'll move, that's a long project. I was not expecting a four year project. I was expecting it to be like a beautiful old house
Starting point is 00:40:45 that just needs to be cleaned up. So maybe what I'll do is I'll just buy something, move into that and I'll keep this and clean it up and rent it out or something. I don't know. I have a couple different options. Maybe I'll spec it. So if you had a client that said to you,
Starting point is 00:40:59 Josh, as a little girl, I used to ride my bike, buy this house and I just have to have it. I'm rich enough. I just have to have it. I say buy it. And you would say buy it side on scene. Well, depends on the price. Like if I can calculate like.
Starting point is 00:41:13 So you still think this was a good price? Oh yeah. What I for sure. I mean, as long as it was still a good price in the end. Nine was the value of the dirt regardless. So let's just say like even if the house was like blown up, like essentially what it is, it doesn't make a difference. I still whatever is in there is added on to the land value.
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's a plus. All right. Well, then that's good. I didn't know if you overpaid. So that's good. Oh, but so you've seen his Malibu nightmare, Kanye's now Malibu house nightmare. I think it just went into escrow actually. Yeah, now he's digging a bath.
Starting point is 00:41:42 How he said I want the windows that overlook the ocean. He wanted that covered up during the time. Yeah, he was like, it was just insane stuff. Why do you want the windows covered? Cause he's insane. But he wasn't living there. No, he wanted the contractor to change it. Like do all the things that were beautiful
Starting point is 00:42:03 about the house he wanted like changed. And then finally was like then when it was like half destroyed, they sold it because it's still of course in Malibu on the water. So of course someone's going to want it. Same reason you wanted your house. Let's talk about your best friend, Candy Spelling. This is where your guys are in the back of a car. She's got a fur coat on and you're trying to have her eat like a cheeseburger or something. How did you become so close to candy spelling, mother of Tori Spelling? How did we become so close? I don't know, we've been friends for years. I don't know
Starting point is 00:42:37 where it started, but we've been friends for years. Now I asked you this when we were at the restaurant at the hotel. I've met your mom and dad, lovely couple, like so in love, like the most, and you're an only child. No, you're not an only child. I have a half sister. Yeah. But very into each other. Like, and, but I asked as a mother of boys, does your mom get jealous at all of how close you're to another woman, like a motherly figure? Not that I know of. She's never expressed it to me.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Have you ever turned down hanging out with your mom to be with Candy Spelling? No. Would you? No, I mean, my parents are friendly with them, so we would just go to dinner all of us then. Okay, that's the right answer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Now, Tori, whom you're also friends with, who was on our show together, which is fun, recently said on her show, if all my kids go to college, I might have to go on OnlyFans to pay for it. Now, first of all, I don't think that's gonna happen. And I don't think that's a wise choice. However, we'll get into another person in this thing
Starting point is 00:43:48 that was featured on one of your videos, Denise, she does it. Yeah. When she was at the Santa Barbara glamping or had an RV and people took the photo, I can't imagine how Paparazzi knew she was there. Oh my God. I mean, there's three sides to every story. Of course.
Starting point is 00:44:10 The two sides and the paparazzi that was called to show up and take the photo. That's the third side in LA is the paparazzi side. And thank God there were comments in those that are like, first of all, this is a beautiful place to go. Kids love going. They're in a beautiful RV. Who's to say they're just not having a fun camping situation or glamping or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Was the motel a fun situation too? What was the motel? Why? Yeah. Why was she at a weird motel? Well she started at my house in Bel Air. Okay. With all five kids? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I was in Europe. Oh, so, okay. So you said five kids.
Starting point is 00:44:44 So I let her stay there. I was in Europe. Oh, so, okay, so you said five kids. So I let her stay there. Very generous of you, nice. Then she ended up at a motel in Woodland Hills. Then she ended up glamping on the Santa Barbara RV. Next thing I thought, like, it was just gonna be on an Indian reservation
Starting point is 00:45:01 in Palm Desert. I have no idea what's happening, what's going on here. And would you say what's going on? We were just like, what is happening? But now she's sort of settled, it seems like. Yeah, I love Tori. I just, Tori's Tori.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Speaking of Calling Paps, recently on Real Housewives of OC, do you watch that show at all? I, occasionally. I'm friends with Heather. Let me fill you in, because it is about Heather. So, you know, Heather has four kids married forever to Terry Dubrow, the plastic surgeon of Botched.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And they're very fun to watch on the show. I never want to see her off the show, whether it's OC or Beverly Hills, I thoroughly enjoy watching her. So she bought a beautiful penthouse. Now she used Josh Altman, I guess, for that. She actually bought in Candy's building. Candy lives in the penthouse. Oh, okay. So she's what? One below?
Starting point is 00:45:57 She's on 37 Candies 41 and 42. Oh, two-story penthouse. 20,000-s penthouse. 20,000 square feet, baby. Well, I'm free candy anytime we can hang out. And anyway, so the townhouse, whatever you wanna call it, penthouse, whatever, looks beautiful. It's only two bedrooms. So they are doing another house that they're gonna rebuild, which I think will be a fun storyline.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Other people are like, why is she doing this when she's on the OC? Who cares? She was just on Watch What Happens Live and was like, I'd love to be back on Beverly Hills. But what happened towards the end of last season is once they sold their house through the Altmans who had the listing and OC, sold her house that we saw her decorate and build for so much money, they went to Disneyland to celebrate and they were so happy and just looking out at the Magic Castle saying, we could have that, that a paparazzi who happened to be at Disneyland caught them looking blissfully. And right off the bat, the cast members and people thought they must have called the Paps.
Starting point is 00:47:02 So- How did Paps get into Disneyland? Do they? Well, you know, I don't know. I don't know. thought they must have called the Paps. So- How did Paps get into Disneyland? Do they? Well, you know, I don't know. I don't know. That's, she says, good point. Heather says, I never called the paparazzi, never ever.
Starting point is 00:47:14 A new girl comes on and says, I'm friends with the particular person who sends out the Paps. And I have the text of, I said, where the text is just her saying, did Heather call the paparazzi? And whoever this person is said, yes, text is just her saying, did Heather call the paparazzi and whoever this person is said, yes, she did.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And so that's the story. And the photos do look a little fake, but also like, who cares? Like, who cares? Well, it sounds like whoever that person is, it's just trying to start a fight so that they have their moment on TV. That's what Heather says.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah. Hey, listen, I'm gonna say this right now to admit something too. I did a TV show recently and someone said, oh, I know you're going to be coming out of there, this, a friend of mine. I can get someone to take a photo of you as you walk out of the TV show. Yes, why not? Why wouldn't I?
Starting point is 00:48:04 Why wouldn't you? And, but that's why when I came out, the photos from that, from that appearance, which was Tamron Hall, I was like, like I was making fun of it being like, stop it, don't take photos of me. But everybody that has that pretty much, unless it's like a premiere and it's like walking down the street in New York and the person's taking all the photos. Either you call them or your person called them or whatever
Starting point is 00:48:30 to make it worthwhile for them, for you to be cute, and for you to get your name out there, and everybody benefits. There's an article written. We read it, we get to talk about it. And whoever that person was that was fighting with Heather, I guarantee you, she calls the paparazzi all the time. That person does too.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, and then it's like, and then they were all saying, you, she calls the paparazzi all the time. That person does too. Yeah. I mean, yeah, and then it's like, and then they're all saying, oh, she goes to Craig's. We all go to Craig's. Yeah. We all go to Craig's, and you don't go to Craig's to not be seen. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Sometimes you go to Craig's and no one's there, and they don't care. And other times you get a nice little thing out of it, but you also get a great meal and you always see people you know. So what? Like if you do, and then, but that's the other thing. If you go to Craig's and you act like, I just,
Starting point is 00:49:14 if you just say, I broke up, like I remember this happened with Kyle and Maurice Co of OC, we are separated. We want our privacy, this and that. And then that night, you know. Kyle's at Craig's with someone else. If you want your privacy or this and that. And then that night, you know. Craig's. Kyle's at Craig's with someone else. If you want your privacy or with JLo, if you want your privacy, you just go have your assistant get you some ice cream
Starting point is 00:49:32 and you make a cone at home. You don't have to be walking through the cute streets of the Hamptons and then yelling at the paparazzi that you called. Like I think the audience that cares about this pop culture is, you know, is sophisticated enough in 2024 to kind of know the drill. Hi, bald. It's me, Trixie Mattel, skinny legend
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Starting point is 00:52:54 Days of our Lives? Let's hear about this. How did you get this call of Days of our Lives? I love that we featured a little of this on the show. You play a? Drug lord. Oh, are you a drug lord? I thought you were just a business man that was doing cocaine. Oh, no, I'm a businessman with an on the show. You play a? Drug lord. Oh, are you a drug lord? Or I thought you were just a business man
Starting point is 00:53:06 that was doing coke. Oh no, I'm a business man with an affinity for cocaine. I actually added that in there when I wiped my nose and go to the bathroom. I did that, the director liked it, so he kept it. Okay, I love that you did this acting because I recently saw that you had a role in a movie when you were a little kid,
Starting point is 00:53:21 that somebody sent you about the end of a world movie and you were a little kid on Halloween somebody sent you about like the end of a world movie and you're a little kid on Halloween, you're playing Dracula. So were you a child actor? How did that come about? I don't remember that movie. I remember filming that movie. It was for, it was on CBS or ABC.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Like a made for TV movie thing? It was a made for TV movie. I think my aunt did it. You mean your aunt was a producer? Oh, this is New Scoop, I don't know. So my mom's sister, Nancy Jacoby, was a producer for ABC. Oh yeah, it was ABC.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And her husband, Len Jacoby, is Jacoby and Myers. Oh my God! Yeah. Just when you think you know everything about your friend, that's cool. Yeah. So did she just throw you in movies or were you actively as a kid going on auditions?
Starting point is 00:54:08 No, I wasn't actively going on auditions. Okay. But I just had talent, you know. Yeah. So, and did you like that as a young kid? I loved it. You liked being on set and everything. Yeah, in fact, I remember I was gonna be,
Starting point is 00:54:21 I was gonna go out for Dennis the Menace and then my mother was like, no, you're not doing that. You're not gonna end up like Macaulay Culkin. You're not gonna be this child actor that spins out on drugs and whatever. So you were going out for a big lead in a series, and that just seemed too much. It wasn't a series, it was a movie.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Oh, a movie, and that seemed too much for your mom to... She was just like, no, my son's not doing that. She should've let me do it. And so how did this part come? By the way, you look very good there. I don't remember how, I don't remember. Like someone just called you and said, you wanna do this?
Starting point is 00:54:49 I really don't remember, to be honest with you. I've done it a couple times. Playing this role. Playing Yuri, the businessman with an affinity for cocaine, yes. Very fun. Now, I know you told me this on a previous episode of Juicy Scoop, but how did, so I know how you, you know, you went right into real estate after high school and was doing
Starting point is 00:55:14 well. How did the camera, how did it come to, hey, can we film you for a pilot presentation or we're going to do the show? How did Million Dollar Listing come and how did they find you? I went to them. Oh. Yes, I went to them. I went to World of Wonder, which is the production company,
Starting point is 00:55:31 and they video recorded me, and they sent the tape to Andy Cohen when he was actually picking cast members and things like that. I don't know if he does that still. And they liked it and they said, let's start filming with you. So what made you, were you someone who liked reality TV?
Starting point is 00:55:51 What made you think? No, I just like. And how did you know the World of Wonder guys? Well, it's a very reputable company and they've done, you know, huge shows. They do RuPaul, they do all, I mean, it's a. Right, but I'm saying like, it's pretty profound that someone back then who was a realtor was like, you know what, I know it's a... Right, but I'm saying like, it's pretty profound that someone back then, who was a realtor, was like,
Starting point is 00:56:06 you know what, I know this could be a TV show. It had never been done before as a reality show. I hadn't seen, maybe on HDTV, some sad version of it. I don't think so. I think that our show was the first. So how did you think, this could be a TV show. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna find a good production company. I'm gonna go and pitch it.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Like, what made you think that? I didn't have to, no, no, no, sorry. The show was out for a year already. Oh. But nobody remembers that because it was a totally different show. It was like 10 real estate agents in their 50s and they were like, it was a weird show.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Nobody really watched it. And I watched it and I was like, what is this? This could be so much better. And then that's when I contacted them. Oh, okay. And then they changed the format of the show. And you pitched yourself. Yes, and then they got rid of all those brokers
Starting point is 00:56:48 and it was just three young hustlers and young brokers that were hustling. And who were the three, you, Madison? Me, Madison, and this whack job named Chad. I totally don't even remember that. Exactly. And was the money very little at the time? I don't even remember.
Starting point is 00:57:04 It was so long ago. And did you see right off the bat that you started to get more people calling you off the bat without you personally knowing them? No, actually for the first years, nothing really was different, but I was already a successful broker. So I already had a huge business.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Have you ever felt that being famous from a million dollar listing has hurt you getting business? Has anyone ever been like, I think you're so smart Josh, but I don't like everything in the world. No, the only thing that sometimes people assume that I only sell $40 million houses
Starting point is 00:57:32 so they won't call me on a four, three, or two million dollar house. They're like, that's not big enough for you. And I'm like, what? That's not true. From condos to castles. From condos to castles. Doesn't need a show.
Starting point is 00:57:42 It's true though, I remember that too, even with when we were in real estate because the majority of our homes were of a certain level, certainly not multimillion, but of certain level, you know, family home, South the Boulevard, whatever. And it would be the same type of thing like, oh, my daughter was looking for a condo, but I didn't want to bother you.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Exactly. And we're like, no, my God, please. Please bother us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not at all, yeah. Let's talk a little real estate. You know, now when I'm driving down the street of Ventura on a Sunday, there are so many directional signs for open houses.
Starting point is 00:58:18 So is inventory way up in the LA area? No, I'd say inventory is much less than it used to be. Still. Oh yeah. And so the word on the street that I've heard is that interest rates are expected to dip somewhere around when you think like mid September before election or?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah, they've already started just, they're going down. This is a good thing. Hopefully by next year we're at four. That'd be nice. Now we're at about six. Okay. And so do you feel like people are just a little more tenant, like, let me just take
Starting point is 00:58:56 my time. Of course, there was a fury after during COVID and like multiple, multiple offers and, you know, and now people are being like a little more, let me just think about it. Or what are you seeing out there? I think it's just interest rates. I think simply if interest rates go down, the market picks back up. But in your case of these big, big homes, it seems like every time we see one of these offers being presented on TV at your level or selling Sunset, it's always all cash buyer,
Starting point is 00:59:21 all cash buyer. So interest rates, I would think, wouldn't affect your business that much if everybody's always an all cash offer when it's, you know. No, because it's still the person that is paying cash is not gonna overpay for a property. They're gonna still wanna pay what the person that's getting a mortgage is gonna pay. Like everyone wants to get the best deal.
Starting point is 00:59:41 All right, so then speaking about a deal. So we're watching the show, and you go to take this Truesdale listing, and you say, I know you have a number in mind, what is it? And the guy says 18 million. And right then, you didn't think it was worth that. But I thought this was actually a smart move as a business person, whether you're in real estate or not.
Starting point is 01:00:04 You knew that this guy was gonna be adamant about it, and you're like, fine, I'm not going to fight. I'm just going to take the listing. But in retrospect, being that we haven't seen what happened, but do you think that as a realtor or whatever that you should speak your mind and not take an overpriced listing more? It depends how desperate the owner is because if you know they need to sell it and you know that it's going to sell regardless within the time period of the contract,
Starting point is 01:00:31 then sure, take it. It's just you're going to just have to do price reductions. Absolutely take it. If it's somebody who's like, oh, so if I get 18 million, but it's only worth nine. But if I get my number, great. Then no, I do waste your time. So you have to you evaluate how serious they are about selling it. Yeah, it all depends on the situation.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Another thing I noticed that was different from my day of real estate is we always wanted a six-month contract. It feels like we never see that on these TV shows where they are like, okay, you have one week. Do you still get six-month or three-month contracts or like what? I go for a year if I can get it, but you know, I usually get six months. Okay, so that we just don't see that element because it seems like I don't see that anymore. Sometimes it's less. I mean, you know, I've done three month contracts. It just depends if I know that it's going to sell with multiple offers day one, then I'll give them a three month contract. What do I have to lose?
Starting point is 01:01:20 But when you know it's going to be a little more challenge and you're like, okay, very interesting. Okay, now you're doing these fun Videos, what is a state media and what is this all about? The state media is a company that I co-own and we represent Most of the real estate talent that's out there. So anybody that's in real estate is signed with us We do their videos we promote their So you do their real estate listing videos. You bring the drone and you do the whole thing?
Starting point is 01:01:49 Or you do more? Oh, that's small stuff. We do like, we do tons of, we do their marketing letters, we do their newsletters, we do their podcasts, we do everything. Anything you see, like, any person that's in real estate that is visible on Instagram or on TikTok or whatever, most of them, I'd say,
Starting point is 01:02:08 the majority of them are signed with my company. And I saw you do an interview where you said, well, the difference between a million dollar listing and selling Sunset is that the million dollar listing people are actually licensed. Correct. What is the truth? Because I've seen different things.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I've seen that they are licensed, but they don't really have those listings. And lots of times they're just showing a house. And to have a mean conversation with each other, they go to a beautiful house to preview for a client, and then they have their fight about the dinner party the night before. I think actually Alvin might be mad at me
Starting point is 01:02:41 from selling his nonsense. Because I texted him the other day, and he didn't respond back to me. Maybe he got upset when I said that none of them have licenses. One of the twins is mad. Well, who cares? I mean, it's all good. Now, we recently talked about this on the show.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I have a house in La Quinta and I love it. And it's the doors doors that open the indoor outdoor the pocket doors seamless floors you don't have to step down do people feel like once they get a house like that they end up never opening those doors because of bugs and flies and air conditioning no there's such a pain and as those are huge and heavy and there was like so you mean the ones that pocket into the wall yeah how annoying is that to just you have to push all the way across like there was that like I. How annoying is that to just, you have to push all the way across,
Starting point is 01:03:25 like the ones that, like, I don't enjoy doing that. So what do you think? It just- Get them electrified. Okay, but besides that, do you find that sometimes when people finally get the house, like it's such an awe moment when you walk through the front door and it just goes seamlessly,
Starting point is 01:03:40 but I really wanna know how many people really do that, I don't think most people actually open that like on a Tuesday. I don't think they do. They probably just keep the doors closed because they're like, these things are so heavy. Right. Now you did a bit with our girl Denise Richards in the fun video about this.
Starting point is 01:03:55 What was this about? That was marketing of a house that I just sold in Pasadena. Biggest house in Pasadena. Oh, I saw that. How much did that sell for? 17. And that had like an art museum. And so what you did was you got some celebrities that are big influencers to come and do a video and show it. I mean, is that the goal then to get those videos?
Starting point is 01:04:15 And that's very smart. Denise is a friend of mine. So I just asked her to do it for me. And she said, sure. Yeah. She's cool. Yeah, she is. I love Denise. And I think she's, is she coming back to the show? I think she might be coming back to Beverly Hills. I hope so. Oh no, she's not. She's got her own show with Charlie on E! Really? Yes!
Starting point is 01:04:36 Wow, that'll be amazing. Yeah, they're going to have their own show with the girls. One does OnlyFans with her, one does not. That's going gonna be incredible. That is gonna be the funniest. I think that could bring back E. That could bring back Charlie's career. Yeah, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:04:52 That's amazing. Here you are dancing around, this is a weird photo, but you were dancing. I was definitely on shrooms there. Oh, do you like mushrooms? No, I just, that night I was on them for sure. Okay, dancing to the White Lotus music. How do you feel about robots and AI and all that stuff and how is AI affecting real estate?
Starting point is 01:05:11 I know nothing about it. I'm the last person to ask. I really don't know anything about it. Would you ever want like a robot working in your house? No, that's bizarre. This is there. This one said, advanced Chinese made robots with early lifelike capabilities are poised to enter the global market and some US lawmakers are already demanding that they
Starting point is 01:05:33 are banned. Weird. Of course, some people think that'll be like, you know, people's spouses. They'll just like, why not just have like a robot that's like cute? Oh, that's a great idea. And then you don't, that doesn't talk back, like everything you do. Fantastic idea.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Have you heard about this French pole vaulter? I saw that this morning. What was this? What was the? Well, he's a French pole vaulter. And he did, there was this viral clip of him pole vaulting over and he got disqualified because you're not, no part of your body supposed to touch
Starting point is 01:06:05 the pole pole but his dick was so big that it touched it and he was disqualified but then they said no actually his knee or his shin had touched it prior to the dick but anyway he is getting offered 250 000 to like do some porn or whatever is he he gonna take it? I doubt it. I don't think so. I think he should just use this press to be like a model. He's good looking anyway. His dick is not his only thing. There's also this really good Italian looking.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I saw him. I mean, and then there's this really beautiful blonde swimmer. There's gonna be, if I was Sports Illustrated, I'd be like, okay, let's work on the next thing and let's just get all these hot Olympians and that would be my next issue. This I thought was hilarious. Doctors warn against imitating Olympic elite athletes at home after seeing an increase in copycat injuries. People trying to do like Olympic stuff. Like how
Starting point is 01:07:03 stupid are people? Like, are you really think that you could fly? I remember used to watching the Olympics, watching the gymnastics and I was like, oh my God, I just think if I could get my hands on those rings and I could swing myself and it would be like they milked so early, it'd be so fun.
Starting point is 01:07:20 So when we were at the hotel, they had these rings that you could climb up and then you could sit on this swing. Oh my god. I tried. I could not even get to the second step. I can do the whole thing. You can? That's pretty good. I can do all the whole all the way across. It's really hard. I mean, I like it. Yeah. It's like you got to have some of her body strength, which I do not. Like you gotta have some of her body strength, which I do not. Oh, Simone Biles said that she got filler or injections. Maybe she got a little botox. I don't know why she would need it.
Starting point is 01:07:52 She's totally pretty. But she said, I tried it. I didn't like it. She's very, very honest about everything. How do you feel about plastic surgery today? I'm definitely a fan. You are a fan. Now have you had anything done? A lot. How much time do you have? plastic surgery today? I'm definitely a fan. You are a fan. Now, have you had anything done? A lot. How much time do you have?
Starting point is 01:08:08 I didn't know if you wanted to tell the world. Yeah. How much time do you have? What have you had? I mean, where do you want to start? I mean, over 20 years, I've done everything. Have you enhanced your ass? Actually, yes, because I had fat sucked out and I'm Jewish. We don't waste anything. So it was really good fat. So I had them injected in my ass. Yes. Actually, yes. What have you done? Because I had fat sucked out and I'm Jewish, we don't waste anything.
Starting point is 01:08:25 So it was really good fat, so I had them injected in my ass. Yes. Where in your ass? Like the upper part, the bottom? I don't know, I was sleeping during the surgery, I can't tell you. Did it hurt after or not? No, it's fine, a little sore. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:08:38 And when it's your own fat, then it's better than filler because it doesn't like go down, right? It wasn't like I was like, I want a butt implant, I didn't do that. It was just like, they're like, well, you have two choices. We throw it away or you can use it somewhere else. I'm like, might as well stick it somewhere. Okay, what else?
Starting point is 01:08:54 Didn't really change anything because I mean, I don't think there was enough, but my chin, I've had an implant. Uh-huh. Uh, let's see. My eyebrows were raised like a millimeter. How did they raise them? They take, from the scalp.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Oh, okay. It's not like I did like a Michael Jackson and I did it all at one time. Like I've, over the years I've done like a little tweak, a little here, a little there. Cause everybody is saying that you have never looked better. Well, thank you. I think this is the cutest you've ever been myself.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Well, I- And I feel like it's like you're maturing, but then you still look very young. Like it's becoming a more like, I don't know, like you look like you're Jala, you're masculine, like you look masculine, but you're still very youthful. I like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:39 So whoever you went to was good. But yeah, and you've had a nose job. Oh, many times. Oh, many times. Yeah, many times. Why'd you have to get it many times? Because when I had my first nose job, I was like 16. And then they, like an idiot, I didn't like the packing that they put in your nose.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I couldn't stand the feeling, so I pulled it out. Too soon. You took it out. No, I pulled it out, period. You're not supposed to pull it out. The doctor takes it out for you. I took it out like that evening, so my nose collapsed. Oh no, and then what happened?
Starting point is 01:10:04 I had to get it done. You had to go back right away or did you have to wait? No, I had to wait like six months later and I just didn't, it wasn't perfect. So then I went back a third time. Then the third time it was a charm. Third time's a charm, okay. You've also written a book.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Tell me about the book. Cause you do give really great advice. Thank you. For, I think for not just real estate, but just negotiation in general. Yeah, my last book was called The Deal, and HarperCollins published it. And it is just, essentially, it teaches you how to negotiate in any field.
Starting point is 01:10:37 It doesn't matter if you're real estate, garbage man, whatever you are, it really teaches you how to negotiate. And it's actually really good. And did you enjoy the process of writing it? Oh, I love it. I've written three books. What were the other ones? The first published one was about my grandmother.
Starting point is 01:10:55 The second one was just about my life. And then the third one was this real estate negotiations tactics. Do you remember the book idea I told you at lunch? Yeah, remind me, we were talking about, what was it? You said, oh, I used to go to this hotel every summer as a child in France. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And I said that you should do a little fun children's book. Kind of like Eloise at the Plaza, but it's about a little boy who is, you know, his grandmother's favorite, but he's also this little businessman. So he's like running around and he's meeting people and, you know, so it could almost like... It's cute.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yeah. I like it. Yeah. You're welcome. Thank you. You'll get royalties. Thank you very much. Remember that. Yeah. I like it. Yeah. You're welcome. Thank you. You'll get royalties. Thank you very much. Remember that. Or just a dinner at Craig's. It's been a minute since you've taken me out.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Okay. Well, no one hasn't. You took me out of the hotel to cap. Yeah. There you go. Nevermind. And it's all gonna work out. So we're gonna continue to watch the show. It is so fun.
Starting point is 01:12:01 It's so juicy. It's real in the deals. I love it. It's every Wednesday on Bravo. And then if you have Peacock, you can watch it the next day. Exactly. And I don't know why Bravo doesn't give me more love.
Starting point is 01:12:15 You and I both deserve more love from Bravo, I've decided. But at anywhere else they can find you. What if they do want to list with you? Just go to joshflag.com or go to joshflag1 on Instagram, send me a DM or. What company are you with now? Compass. Oh, okay, so you were no longer at the same company.
Starting point is 01:12:35 No. As the Altmans. No, Compass. Is Tracy at? Tracy is still at Douglas Altman. Oh, interesting. Well, it's all good. And you and Tracy are still besties.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Love each other. All right, I love her. I love her too, she's great. She's the best. All right, thank you so much. Thanks.

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