Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Only Fans Secrets, Britney Files, Alix Earle and RHOC with Jacques Peterson

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Daily Mail journalist and podcaster, Jacques Peterson is here! Britney of "Vanderpump Rules" has filed for divorce. Where does this leave "The Valley" casting? What to do when you’re canceled? From Stassi to Alix Earle, we discuss how to navigate it today. What is on the Shannon Beador video tapes and are Tamra, Alexis and John going to regret threatening to release them? Jaques explains how Only Fans is really run. We get into the fate of the new RHONY and how Jacques' life was in jeopardy after reporting it. Is Dubai worth falling asleep to? This is a juicy and funny one! Enjoy! Hungryroot is offering listeners 40% off their first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to https://Hungryroot.com/JUICYSCOOP. Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Woo woo. Hannah McDonald. Yeah. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a first time Juicy Scooper delight. Jacques Peterson. G Peterson, gorgeous Australian. People are going to die for your voice.

Also, you might know him from the unpopular podcast. He's also a writer at the Daily Mail. And just, just you're, we have some good conversations and I'm excited for everyone to hear them. We have some juicy conversations and this is so freaking weird. I'm like an OG juicy scooper, like to start, used to go through the tabloids and like react to them and now I'm like, what's happening? Very surreal. Oh, well, I love it.

How are you enjoying LA life? Uh, I love it. Um, I have seen two crackheads masturbating on the street. Together? No, two separate instances. But you know, it's twice in the span of a few months, but that's, that's LA for you. It was under the blanket. I'm like, what's going on there?

And it was, I was like, oh, okay. But I love it. I went to something about her, got a BLT. Oh, well let's get into it. Well, some sad, but unsurprising news. Well, some sad but unsurprising news. Brittany has filed for divorce from Jax. In it, she just, you know, what is it?

What is it? A reconcilable differences. Differences. So nothing too big. And she, you know, wants to have all the money that she had that she's made on her own, that she's inherited. Of course, she'll have to deal with the house, though I think she's been living not there for a while. So they're going to have to sell the house or

do something with that. But maybe, I'm thinking maybe there isn't really a lot of equity in it because it may have dipped a little, but whatever. Then she said she wants to have shared custody, but more like he'll have visitation. So it'll be a joint custody, but I think that she will be, there's two different ways to say it, where she'll be the main person that makes the decisions, but that he'll have his set times to be with the Sun Cruise. Will she's the breadwinner. I don't know if people know that because when they got fired for, I can't remember why they got, when they fired everyone for like- They got fired, they got fired because it started with, someone was remembered Stassi, going on a podcast.

It was all about Faith. Yeah, well. Faith, who slept with Jax. There was a lot of non-nice things being said about Faith on podcasts and on Twitter and on that, that involved Stassi, Jax, Kristen Doty. And I think Jax was not totally part of that, but he got in a fight with somebody else from

90 Day Fiancé. And it was just a very volatile time. It was 2020. Will it got in trouble for having the past? They said your past is homophobic or whatever. There was a lot of things. Your past. Am I pronouncing it wrong? Once I said pasta. Yeah, well, like, I'm Australian. Like the church thing. Like, pasta. Oh, the past. Yes, they were going to have a, a certain pastor marry them and they were in the heat for that because someone

then went deep diving on him and in the end they had Lance Bass marry them I think. Sammy McLean Oh god, that's quite a pivot. Angele Crosby Yeah. So they had their big wedding and yes. Sammy McLean When they got fired, right, she was bringing in the money because she got a big Weight Watchers deal and I think it was worth like half a million because he went on that House of Villains and he was like, oh, my wife's a boss, like she's bringing in the big bucks. So, I mean, she's got the money, she's got

the, I mean, I think she should cut it. I mean, I like Jax, but she can do better. Well, you know, when it first happened and I was like talking to Lala about it, you know, I said, what do you really think? And she's like, I think she's totally done. I mean, that was like months. That was when it was announced like in January. That's when she said the separation was January 2024. And I think they kind of said that they were separated like maybe March or something right before the premiere. And I was kind of like, really? But then they would have moments where he'd come on the podcast and people would be like,

oh, they're laughing and everything, which I think is great. I think it's great. Let's pray that they have a friendship because they're going to be raising their son for the rest of his life. So I hope that there isn't a big jealousy. She's like, hey, I don't want you. I hope you find a wonderful woman who's nice to our kid. I think she's in that place. I don't think she's going to be jealous if he dates anybody. I think it's going to be the opposite if she falls

in love with someone. Oh, a hundred percent. She's putting the kid first because when I actually interviewed her for Daily Mail, and this was sort of after the split got announced, and she was like, she pretty much said yeah after I had crews said, yeah, after I had a cruise that changed my priorities and I had a look at what my future would be and what my life would be. And I think she just puts the kid first and Jax has taken it backseat. It was I think a struggle. And then the Valley is is filming now.

What do you think? I'm hearing different things is Vanderpump as we know it. Do you think it is done? Done? No, I don't think it's done. I think they're just putting it on pause, giving people a breather. They might do a reboot. Although they kind of tried like a semi reboot years ago and they brought in all those new people and they fired them. But-

LESLIE Right. And then they had the resurgence with the old because of the scannable. However, there's reports coming out now that supposedly the producers have been trying to find waiters and things that would be good to bring on a reality show at TomTom and Schwartz and Sandy are like, it's not really, no one's really popping. And then supposedly Lala and Sheena are filming with the Valley girls. GERARD Yeah, well I had heard that they did not, so I heard a while ago that they weren't planning on transitioning Vanna Pump people over to the Valley, because Vanna Pump was going really well, the Valley's a hit, the Valley has an amazing new cast with new stories, but I just think that now this pause is going

on for so long and now Jax is off getting treated for whatever. And I think that now they've got like a hold of Phil on the show. Well, I mean, I think if I was a producer of the Valley and, you know, and Lala and Sheena aren't doing anything Thursday and I could be like, let's figure out a day rate for you. Yeah. Okay. You're going to be at the birthday party anyway. Why don't you guys both come and this is how much you make and let's see what will happen. And I think that's smart for them to do. I don't think they can be like, you know, too picky

at this point. And it is a genuine friendship they have and they do live down the street and let's see what happens. Yeah. Lala's about to pop though. Like how far is she? Like what is she filming? I mean, is she just sitting there like, let me have this baby? I don't even know if she really is filming. That's just what I've heard. But I would think that she would, why not? You know?

But I think she's due in like a week. So anyway, who knows what that will do to the show? Are they still gonna have a podcast together? I don't know how much they own of the restaurant. You know, I don't know, because I know he owns it with like other people, but it seemed like a pretty good deal. Will Barron Well, the podcasting business is pretty competitive. You've got Vicky Gunvalson and who else? I think Megan King Edmonds might have one. Quinn Fry will probably launch one soon.

So... I should just have a shirt that says, get a job, not a podcast. Okay, I'll make that. Okay, but no, it's so hopefully she looks great. And I think there's only going to be more stuff that's going to be available to her now that she's single. She can go on dating shows, she can do products about more hair, makeup, baby stuff, dating, and then have this another opportunity to fall in love again. If the love is gone, it's gone.

That'll be fun actually watching her with the new romance on the show because we've only ever known her with Jack. So we've never seen her single with the new man I mean, I think the Valley is amazing. I think this is going to keep getting better and better. Oh wait, I just had a prediction come to me. Okay, what is it? Well, talk about someone who has had a pretty flawless reputation as a reality star all these years because she was always poor, suffering, Britney. Always nice, always nice to everybody,

to fans, to me, to everybody. She is a nice person. She is a delight. But now she gets her groove back, she gets her sparkle back, she starts getting deals, she's the new Ariana, and then what happens? Then do they start coming for her? Then do they start being like, you know, she had two dates in a row. It was her weekend with Cruz. I'm just saying, like everyone thinks Jack's so bad,

but he let her go to Cabo with her new man. I don't know, I'm home with my kids, because my kids are little. But, you know, tuck him offuffet, like just get ready. I feel like that was already happening a little bit last season. I felt like some of the tweets were kind of turning on her. And I feel like the opposite happened with Katie on Vanner pump. Cause it was like, people never really liked Katie because next to Schwartz,

cause he's so adorable. She always seemed like the nag and then she got rid of him. And then they saw Katie like by herself, by herself doing the thing. And they're like, oh my God, we love her. And now I feel like she's the most popular person. So- I love it. And also because that dry way about her that some people thought were boring was like, wow, it was like Yoda in the corner. Like everything she was, she was right about everybody. I know, I feel like-

She's like, uh, it's fucking weird. Like, just the way she is was like amazing. I feel like Janet is like the new Katie. I feel like Janet is the Katie of the valley and people kind of like, she got so much hate first season, but I think like in a few years it'll turn around. They'll be like, wow, Janet was right about like a lot of stuff. Yes. Um, something about her, uh, this is their page, um, seems to be doing great. You've said you've gone and enjoyed a couple of sandwiches. Yes. Uh, I went there, I took my, you know what, I didn't want to go there cause I

was like, it's so touristy. I wanted to pretend I was like too cool to do any of that. So I held it all off and then my friend from Australia was here and then I'm like, let's do the Vanderpump tour. So, uh, went to something about her, loved it. Katie's mom served me. So nice. And she was like, she was very hands on. We, we didn't get, we to something about her, loved it. Katie's mom served me. Gretchen Kerr So nice. She's so cute. Sammy was nice. I loved it. Well, interesting because some of these people that were the thirsty

characters are still lurking around. So apparently Tom's old assistant, who then jumped over and was going to work for Ariana, has posted like my hours were cut at something about her. So can you guys all listen to my podcast? Otherwise, I don't even do because my, the ship is sailed, no one cares. She got like a battery, she got like a commercial, but these things go real quick. Like the excitement goes real quick and then it's like crickets.

And so I went on their page and I think she really is, I think they're really done with it because she's nowhere on the page. And then they, they did this cute thing where they highlighted some of their favorite workers and like on Polaroids and she, there was 10 people and she was not one of them. And nowhere to be found. No, and is nowhere to be found in this grid at all. Well, the server that I had there was very lovely and also, look, I'm not going to say you shouldn't hire, look, everyone deserves to work.

They're a good worker, but she's the most, Anne is the most unprofessional person ever. On the show, first of all, she backstabs Tom to go work for Ariana. So that's completely unprofessional as it is. Then Ariana gives her a job at the sandwich shop and then she's going on Instagram going, oh, they cut my hours. Like, please subscribe to my Patreon or whatever. It's like, what? So like- If they weren't thinking about it now, they're like, okay, I think you go along. Yeah. You're not coming in on Sunday.

And listen, you know, what other story do you have to tell? You've told it all. You've had it for a few months now. There's no other dirt you have on anybody. So, so what else are you going to do? Her podcast is called like, it's like, I broke the NDA or something. No, it's like I signed an NDA. Oh yeah, but the concept is like, yeah, we signed an NDA, but we don't give a shit and we're just going to like spill it all anyway. It's like, okay, well, good luck working in Hollywood. Like, come on. I know. Does anyone ever think about that?

Like, I think they just think it's so easy that like, oh, this will get going and I won't ever have to be a writer or an actor or anything. I'm just gonna be Heather McDonald. Well, it's a little harder than you think. Then also Joe. So this got picked up by a lot of people. This is her Instagram, Joeehudadashorts.

And she just posted this yesterday. And it must have taken a long time. It was a lot of moments of them together, put to kind of a nice song. And in full Joe fashion, just lots of mugging to the camera, lots of selfies with him and just like doing all these things and just the fun that they had. And she just basically was like, to heal, I want to put this out there.

To heal. No, it's because it's died down too. People are like not talking about it. And like, this is probably the first time I've talked about any of this stuff for a while because it's not. But normally the stars don't care. But for someone that just got this surgence of like fame and then it dies down, it's like, oh my God, what should I do to like spark up the interest and get people to, you know,

get on my Instagram? And anyway, people were like, I'm sure his girlfriend loves this too. Like, I mean, then other people were like, listen, this is for her to let the world know that she was gaslit, that he... Don't we already know she was gaslit? I mean, that was the storyline. I mean, how long ago? Yes, of course he acted like it was more of a relationship

when she was around than when other people were around. But that's what you should know as a girl. Like if you're not meeting the parents and, you know, and he's not holding your hand when you walk into a place. He literally took her to a dating place and was like, see ya. Like I'm gonna go meet these other girls and do speed dating and she was like, okay. I guess I'll go home.

But it's like, well I guess we'll go home and I'll still give you a BJ but. And it's like, and then we're supposed to feel sorry for you like you're, you know, 28. And how long ago was it when they filmed? I think she's older than 28, but I mean, you have to factor in. She's really cute.

No, she is. She's really pretty. It just is like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, this must've happened like two years ago or something now. It's insane. It's like fatal attraction. It's creepy. You should get a restraining order. It's a lot. Like if someone was still, and I had moved on and they're hosting reels of when we hooked up two years ago, I'd be like, I'm calling the police. I always think there's a thing I used to call with men and I'd say, well, he had very bad bedside manner, like a doctor that is just like, you're going to die

in two weeks, that's some, a doctor who has bad bedside manner. I think there's guys that don't know how to like end it nicely or he thought he was by kind of luring her on a little bit and then, you know, that made him look bad in the end. Didn't he also tell her that it was that they were just hanging out or did he say, oh God, I kind of, I don't want to remember. I don't even want to remember. It's PTSD.

I don't care. It's just moving on. Go away. So then Sassy is going to do, I think just an episode at the villa. This is the show where Lisa Vanderpump has a French villa with staff. And so it's like below deck, but in a house. And then she's going to come and do an episode. But then she also, she, she, who was totally canceled

for what she said about a couple things. One was the faith thing and then another was she did an episode about the Oscars. Sammy McDonough Oh yeah. I met her in person and I was like, girl, you were right on with that Oscar thing. Don't say that! I was like, keep being you. And she was like, people aren't ready for it. This was years ago. And she's like, people aren't ready for it. This was years ago.

And she's like, I'm just not going to say anything. And I'm like, well, I support you. Well, she did, she did the right thing. She was like silent until she came out pregnant. Yep. Then she still took some time off and just did her show and did her patron and lived off whatever money she had. Will she did the Tamron Hall appearance? Do you remember that? And she said

she had like a race coach or something? I, her person reached out to me and was like, you know, and I said, I would love to have her on and this won't be live and we can kind of go through it. And I think it's really interesting to hear about what she has been going through as far as the aftermath. What is it like when you thought you were, I mean, she was supposed to go on a tour, but that also was gonna be canceled anyway by COVID. But prior to COVID, I think it was canceled

or something like that. And then she was supposed to have a second book. They took that from her. Everybody, every agent, publicist dropped her. And that is kind of the story. And I think maybe her second book says that. But I don't even know if she's still been, I think she's still very careful and rightfully so about who she says anything to or what.

But I mean, that is pretty amazing. And so yeah, no, she really did like take classes. She really did learn and kind of see why do I have this perspective in life and why it's wrong to have that perspective, but I have it. So let me go back and she really like did the work. So then, but then it didn't go well, right? On the Taffer Hall. Will Barron No, no, sorry. I was just thinking of that. Is that still a booming business, the race educators? I feel like there was a lot of work for that for a while at a school, the Stasi's of the

world. I don't know, those positions are still around. But Tamron was, no, Tamron Hall was not a fan of Stasi. She was like, well, what have you learned? Oh, how are you doing better? It was tough. And then Stasi went back into a shell for another eight months. I mean, I could see why maybe they were like, this would be a good one to go.

Yeah. But now she is doing great. She had another baby. She got married. She had another baby. And she has her own Hulu show. And it's called docu-comedy. So I think she found her own little group of like fun moms or whatever.

And it'll be probably somewhat scripted but based in reality. That's what I'm thinking, more like a curb or something. Yeah, well, I remember they gave a show like that to the Lady Gang podcast on E and I don't think it worked. No, but they were just basically still just doing the podcast but in a location. I think we're going to see them, her plan her kids party. I think we're going to see different things if she's trying to launch something or go to something.

And she is very entertaining to watch and she's been on reality TV. She was on Amazing Race with her family. I think this is, she's been on reality TV, you know, she was on Amazing Race with her family. Like I think this is, she knows that, I interviewed her, one of my first interviews when I was doing this, I interviewed her, I barely watched Vanderpump, and it was like such a well-received interview because she was so kind of funny and honest.

So I mean, I'm happy for her. I'm happy that she didn't go in a hole and die. Sometimes you just need to go away. You don't need to go a hole and die, but maybe you stop posting and maybe you stop doing so many public things, but then you can still come back. I think she should be the blueprint of how to do it. Yes, but she is talented and she's very smart and I don't think everyone that ends up on reality TV is talented and smart and you look at Stassi and you also look at Hannah Berner, she was like the most hated person when she got fired from Summer How. People were like, she's done for and now she's like on Netflix.

I mean she's like bigger than like anyone on Bravo, it's insane. So I do think that like if you have the talent and you're smart enough to know how to navigate stuff, like you can come out of things. Yes, but it is, it is very, very hard. Is it possible for Popeyes to make boneless wings even better? You betcha. Popeyes has done it again with five bold tastes y'all are gonna love. No bones about it. Available in classic honey garlic, honey barbecue, garlic, parmesan, and signature hot, Popeyes boneless wings make it deliciously easy to enjoy crispy and juicy wings. For boneless wings with the bold flavor

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Okay, so this is very interesting since we're talking about this type of stuff. Alex Earl is this huge influencer for those that don't know, huge on TikTok. Really blew up like two years ago when she just started doing tons of content, like 15 videos a day about her life. And she'd show like her dirty apartment and she'd talk about her hilarious night. Like, and it really felt like people were talking

to her girlfriend. So she'd be like, oh my God, last night, blah, blah. And she's pretty and has great style. So she's up to like 6 million plus followers on TikTok. She has her own podcast under Alex Cooper's podcast thing. She's a huge influencer, has a really cute boyfriend that's down to do all the videos. Anyway, about maybe a week and a half ago, somebody found these,

it was like a weird ask FM something. Okay. Yes. What is that? Was that part of Twitter? What was that? It was 10 years ago. Yes. It was like, it was like a third party website or something. And then people just ask you questions if you were bored. Anonymously or whatever. Yes. Yep. So somebody found that, which is like shock, I just feel like someone-

Can people get a life? Sorry to say, wait, but it's like, come on, like, you're looking to see what Alex Earl did 10 years ago and ask again? So she was 13, and in answering the questions, they were short sentences, and, but they would involve, they involve the word, the N-word. Okay. But from what I can tell, it wasn't, it was used like a appropriation way. It was used like a way a rapper would do.

Still not okay, can't believe she typed it, awful, right? But I saw that, and so I'm going through TikTok and I'm seeing different people show it and talk about it. And, you know, other people are like, no one's gonna care. Do you think all the girls through going through Alabama or sorority rush are gonna stop following Alex Earl because she did this? I mean let's just be honest.

She's people were like you're you're on the wrong crusade. Nothing's gonna happen and she's not responding. She's not responding and I was like I think I think that's the thing to do. I think she just shouldn't respond, this will go away. Well, yesterday, I guess she cracked. And she wrote, did it on her stories. It was me. There's no excuse. I never knew what really that word meant, why it's so hurtful, and I'm so sorry, and all this stuff. But in it, she's like, there's a lot of things on social media that are not true. And I did not try to copyright these tweets or something,

which was so weird. So then I start finding more things. And where she made the mistake, and I believe people like Alex Earl or somebody who was probably like, girl, I've been through this. You were 13, but if you explain it, now there's a Daily Mail article.'"

And there actually was. There was a Daily Mail article about it, but there wasn't until she responded. So it's like, because I've been through stuff like this myself, I'm like, wow. So then anyway, I go and I look and I'm like, let me see the hate that she's talking about. Well, these haters of her literally write the same things

to her that they do to me. Oh, really? And she's like 30 years younger than I am, but it's the same stuff. Did you see that outfit she was wearing? Oh, her sister hates her. You know her sister hates her. You know her sister hates her. When is her boyfriend going to leave her?

Why do her teeth look like that? She looks so old. I'm like, this girl is 23 and gorgeous. But I'm thinking, oh, I'm like, I think this happened. I think she found this hate. I think she was immune to having hate for two years and like got sucked in this awful world and felt I have to say something because I'm not this evil person. But then by saying it, now there's an article, I was

never going to bring it up. But now that she said something, I'm like, I'm going to bring it up because I don't think she should lose anything. If you like her, you like her. If you decide not to like her anymore, move the fuck along. There's plenty of other influences. There's plenty of other girls that could show you how to wash their face, okay, while they tell a story or eat a giant salad while they tell a story about their stepmother.

Munching along with their like Bethany. Yeah, if you're not into it, there isn't, yeah, it's okay. But yeah, that's my advice to other people. I think it's certain, yes, if you're arrested for something, if you're accused of murder, yes, you know, you need to leave your kid in a hot car, you better fucking explain yourself. But when it's just like something like that where just a small percentage of people have

hooked on it or I don't know. But then I think what happened is she freaked out and she got lawyers involved. And then the lawyers were like, hello, our biggest client. And these guys are probably like, all right, better say something instead of like talking to a PR person and being like, look, she wants us to do this thing. So then they go after these two podcasters that are just two girls that are probably creaming in their pants that anybody from Alex Earls camp has like approached them. And now they're in their pod, at their podcast room with a highlighted sign and they're like,

um, these people are threatening us saying that we said something on this site about her and da da da da. And it was just like, ah, now it's a thing. So much of this is fake as well. Cause like you said, it's just like people on, you know, a internet forum, you know, bitching and whining and it doesn't really mean anything. And you can just ignore it. And it does go away because those sort of people are bitching and moaning and they move on to someone else.

Yeah. People all day. But I was talking to someone recently, there's like a talent manager for like really big people. And he was like, Oh, one of our clients got into hot water because they posted something that they weren't supposed to. And I'm like, who cares? Like it's just some people on Instagram. Like, do you guys actually pay attention to that? And he's like, yeah, we do. Cause it's like, I don't think it really affects anybody. But then the people that are higher up that call

the decisions and they freak out cause they see it. They make a bigger deal out of it. Yes, and then they go, oh my God, people are talking about so and so, like Camilla Cabello, now we have to put out a statement and it's like they just turn it into a thing. It's like everyone calm down. Like someone had a shady tweet from 10 years ago. Everyone's gonna live, it's fine, we can move on. I'm like, relax.

Yeah, I just don't think that those things should, you know, be as... And then the thing is, is that like with reality shows too, I was like, when they would bring up things, oh, about Jackson and Brittany, oh, well, it's all over, you know, the site that he was cheating or whatever. I'm like, who's to say that somebody, that the call wasn't coming inside the house? Who's to say that some producer was like, you know what your job is, start some shit. They're gonna read it tomorrow. We know this happened with New Jersey.

And so it's like, those things shouldn't be, what is online should not be brought into the show. We should be able to watch the show and the conversations that are happening and not this like weird thing. It's literally and I feel like so many times in the calls within the house, whether it's somebody you know that you think is a friend is posing as you know, pussy five, 52 or whatever and saying a bunch of shit that they because they know you so well said they know the evil shit to say and you'll never know because it's

anonymous. We'll never know who's on that thing, but like, it is just, it is kind of fascinating, you know, and, but yeah, the thing is don't look at it, don't look at it, and they will move on to someone else. Sammy McDonough There's freedom in not looking at it and not caring. And I also think as far as like reality shows go, and you were saying that that we shouldn't have the online world mixing so much into the shows. I think, you know, I think Bravo especially is on a really, I think they've made a mistake with the whole like Bravo con and everything because these women, we're supposed to be

watching people live their real lives, right? Like a documentary. And we made them rock stars. Yeah. And they go to Bravo con, they're like the Beatles. Yeah. And then they're reading all of their DMs and then they're talking to the bloggers and the podcasters and they have their own podcasts and it's just like too much.

I feel like honestly like ban BravoCon, ban the podcasts. No one's allowed to have a podcast anymore. Their social media comments need to be moderated. I think they probably will start that. They should, but then they make so much money off of that. No, but like they could, I'm not saying they, I'm not, I'm just saying if you want to try to kind of save this art form, I would say, um, like maybe there is something in there that's like, you can have a book, but you can't have a podcast.

Yeah. If you want to tell your story, tell it in a book, but at least it won't be like you recapping the episode daily. I don't know. I also think that's the strategy from Bravo because what they want is they want to get people so hooked that they just have a constant 24, 7, 3, 6, 5 stream of content. Cause you know, these Bravo super fans, they're listening to every freaking podcast, like looking at every single comment, every, you know, the, some of us, the housewives have these fake fights on Twitter when the

episode's airing and they're hooked into all of that. And it reminds me of like 90 day fiance, how that just kept expanding and expanding and it was just, you know, eventually they got to the point where it was like the old cast members would just rewatch their episode and react to it and they, and they just make sure they have like 90 day fiance programming all year round because the fans get in the habit of it and then they don't leave. So I also think it's like, they're trying to get us addicted into it. Yeah.

So I think that's part of it. And then when you know what, when you, when you miss it, like I used to watch a lot of the 90 day stuff and it is a good show, but then I kind of, I don't know, I went on a holiday or something and missed it for a few weeks and I came back and I'm like, I'm fine. I'm not watching nine hours of this. I am not. I was very into it back when it was like Annie and like the original season because I was like, I couldn't believe it and it was fun to talk about. But then when it came, I was just like, I don't know, like I just stopped caring about it. And I mean,

I get that people are still into it and it's fun and I think it's great. But I felt it was just really fake and I just lost interest. I follow the TLC Instagram so I get the little highlights and like Angela and Michael are still going at it. It's still on it. Yeah, it's the same thing. All right, let's talk about OC. What are your thoughts so far with everything that's going on? And then I'll chime in. Okay. Love this season. I loved last season.

Yeah. You know, it's back on track. And you know what? I actually love everyone on the show. I feel like now, especially in recent years, and because I've now I've met a lot of the Housewives and the Vanderpump people and everything, and I see them more as, you know, like fully formed human beings, not just one dimensional TV characters. So I'm not like team anybody.

I think everyone's killing it. Emily's my favorite. I even like Katie. I know a lot of people aren't liking the new girl, Katie. I think she's good. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I'm into it. Well, I think it's funny because with Emily, you know, it's weird that she's so critical of

Jen not having like money or whatever her struggle is. I mean, pretty much, aren't his parents like helping to support their family? I guess, but she's still, I mean, Emily Simpson would never get herself into a situation like Jen has got into. And if this was in real life, so this is a real friend group and the cameras aren't there, you would be like, why the fuck is Jen in Vegas with a Rolex and doing all this when she's going through? You know, like she can't even pay her rent and she's off on Vegas. Like you would be gossiping about that. So she's in Vegas because the guy is like into gambling or something, and we find out later

what hot water he's in too. And she doesn't want to know where the money was coming from. She doesn't want to ask. She wants to have fun. She's been trying to get on the show for years, but at least she's kind of nice. I love that.

Now, what do you think the whole thing with Shannon and these videos? So this was the big scoop. So Shannon, as you know, she's just a juicy scoop, got a DUI. And she, the way I understand it is she was having drinks, but then she took an Uber home, but then she realized like she left her phone or something at the restaurant. So then she got in her car with her dog and went to John's to see if he could help her retrieve the phone.

I don't know. They got in a fight or an argument. She got in the car and then lost control of the car and hit a house. And in doing that, now it's come out through Alexis, who's now dating John. He has video that will ruin her life, ruin her reputation. It's so bad, it's so bad. And I thought, I just think the audience does not like that this is a conversation

that she's basically being blackmailed. And it felt very like when they were sitting at Tamara's house and Tamara was like, he has the videos, he has the videos. He has the videos and that's what she's talking about because we already planned it before, like that we were gonna talk about it when we were in the bear costumes

or we were gonna bring up the videos. So yeah, Alexis, don't you remember? Like you're supposed to say it a little more casually. Now I have to help you. Yeah, John knows what the videos are and they could, I never saw them. I just know that they could absolutely destroy her life and destroy her children's lives. But I don't want to get involved.

And you're like, what? And she's doing it like on E and extra and all these other things. And so then then we're like, what's on these videos? And I had some fun with that. Like I was like, I literally was like, wanted to film something. I'm just like, what's on these videos? And I had some fun with that. Like I was like, I literally was like, wanted to film something. Just like, what is it? Just like her like going down on like some food

that wasn't hers or whatever. And he's like, what are you doing? You're eating my son's pizza. No, but apparently. It's like the FOS and the furious or something. Yeah, Katie said, the new girl said, it's her leaving, I guess, and where maybe the daughter was outside and it looks like she may have hit, could have hit the daughter,

but didn't. And then people are like, well, if that's really the case, why didn't you immediately call the police? Yes. So why is this? And now I feel like what's going to happen is now John's going to be like, this plan, Alexis, that you and I had to not only get my 75 grand back, but restore my reputation for not being cheap because she keeps talking about how I had to go buy all the rooms at the London. I would go and buy him coffee. When Andy would

ask me to go to watch What Happens Live, I could have had two coach seats or one first class. I upgraded him. I did that. I did that because John... And so he's like, fuck that. You offered me that first class ticket. So we're going to let the world know. But then somehow, this is what I think. I think it was Tamara who knew about the videos and was like, oh, we're dropping the videos because I don't want people to ever be on Shannon's side or feel sorry for her. We need to remind them that she, you know, we need to remind Mad, you know, Mothers Against Drug Drivers who this person is.

And now I think Alexis and John are like, oh shit, this didn't go the way we thought it was gonna go by dangling this revenge video. I'm a little shocked as well. I mean, not now watching it, but before the season aired, I thought Shannon was gonna have a really bad season and people wouldn't like her. Cause you know, people, it's DUI, someone could have died.

It's a serious thing. You know, they didn't. And I've always been a Shannon hater. Like died. It's a serious thing. You know, they didn't. And I've always been a Shannon hater. Like I've never been a Shannon fan. I've always thought she just, you know, the victim complex. I always thought she had a problem with alcohol, all of it. And then even me this season, I like feel bad for her and I like her because, you know, it's just hard when you see everyone go at somebody and she, and I think she is doing, I think she's doing the work like Stasi. I think she is, I think she's trying to change. At first I thought she was just, I thought it was fake. And as I watch her, I think she's genuinely remorseful. I

think she hit rock bottom. I think, you know, she had a relationship implode and got humiliated and she's building herself back up. But I will say with Tamra, I know everyone hates Tamra now, but I am so glad that Tamra's holding her feet to the fire because it would be so boring if no one was being that person to like grill Shannon. If everyone just rallied around her. I mean, look, the thing is people are liking the show. Yes. But part of it, and I think Tamra knows that, you know, part of it is I'd rather you like the show than like me. I'd rather it not be like, I love everybody on it, but I think Tamara knows that, part of it is, I'd rather you like the show than like me. I'd rather it not be like, I love everybody on it,

but they're so boring, I'm not gonna turn it on tonight. So who cares? If everyone is nice, so I get what makes it. And I get that Tamara is pissed because she felt like she was that great friend. And I think it's because she's getting her back from two years ago when Shannon just dumped her. When she wasn't on the show,

Tamra just, I mean, Shannon totally dumped her and made her feel like the leper and like made her feel like this loser that wasn't on the show and wasn't calling her back. And then when she came back, she was like acting all sweet last season. And then when this happened, she was just like, no. And then I also just don't think she wanted to do

the Trace of Amigas, but whatever. Yeah, I don't think she wanted to do the Trace of Amigas. I mean, I loved last season as well, but that Shannon and Tamra making up was so fake. So I prefer seeing them go at it now because it feels more like, okay, this is how they really feel about each other. And then Vicky, who's always like, we're best friends.

They've had so many wicked, horrible fights over the years. And now that they're not friends, like she'll just drop mean things in interviews. Like, remember when she threw that wine in your face, Gina? And your eye almost fell out of your head because of the alcohol? Well, that's Tamra for you. I'm like, wait, what?

Like, you went on, film 17 seasons with her and go on trips and speak so, and speak nice of her at reunions and other times not like, none of you guys are friends. None of you would fuck with each other if the cameras weren't there. Never. I always call it Survivor Newport Beach.

Cause I don't really watch it as a reality show. I'm like, they're all playing Survivor. It's all strategy. And I think some of the shows you have to watch with that mindset now, like, because some people go, oh, it's so fake now. And it's like, well, it is. But it's like, if you just watch it and you just pretend that you're watching Survivor, it's still super entertaining. Even with New Jersey, which I actually loved this season of New Jersey. I know a lot of people didn't, but I was like, this is Game of Thrones. Speaking of things that you should not tell, okay? When I say everyone has a podcast, maybe don't tell every story. So Tyrese Gibson, actor, model, all the things that he does, he said on a podcast that he had to act like he had special needs so that his mother could get a benefit

check. And he said that was my first acting job. And look, the guy laughed too when he told it and everything. But then when someone takes it out of the podcast and puts it in black and white on TMZ, it's like, oh my God. And so the comments were just like, first of all, his mom has passed. Others were like, hey, this is part of the struggle and she did what she has to do. Other people are like, I work for the government and that's why this is so hard

because there are people that fake it and then it takes money from the people who really need it. But I'm just like, listen, I know there isn't a lot of work happening in Hollywood. So you want to be productive with your day. So you go on your friend's podcast. But just like Lily Allen should have, should not have told that puppy story. This is not the story to tell.

Think about the stories you're going to share that have never been shared and then think about the ripple effect they might have. Okay, as someone that works at the Daily Mail and as you know, works with publicists and stuff all the time, this stuff's interesting because you can get away with an edgy story like this, depending on what your brand is, because there's heaps of politically incorrect podcasters and commentators out there that could do that and it would be so funny. And what's that guy, Matt, something with the big lips, he's blue, blue opera, I don't know, whatever he's always pushing the envelope and that's their brand and then people love them for it, but it's like, yeah, if you're just like an actual Lily Allen or Tyrese and then Matt Reif, yeah,

him, the comedian with the big lips. Yeah. He's got pouty lips and she's, you know, they tried to cancel him they tried to cancel him too, and he was like, not going to go for it. And he went after some, got in a fight with someone that was saying something, he's like, no, I'm going to stick with my joke and I don't really care. And yeah, I think the more that that, I think we're going in that direction of like, what are you really going to do about it? That you don't like my joke or you don't like my story?

Are you really gonna show up at my house? Are you really going to, you know, get, actually have a protest outside? No, you're not. And he's- Cause that would take too much effort. His fans love his style of humor. So it's like, are you gonna cancel me?

It's gonna have a million people coming to my next tour. But like, yeah, if you're Lily Allen- Here's the thing, he did nothing wrong. He was a child. He's telling a story about his childhood. It's a pretty funny story. It's a pretty funny story. Like if it was a standup story, it's a pretty great standup story. I think it's good that she is dead. It wouldn't be cool if she wasn't. Because then if she was like at the premiere two months from now and she's on the red carpet, people

are going to be like, what? But she might also be like, it was 40 years ago, get the fuck over it. Yeah. But I just thought, now I've changed my mind. Now I'm glad that he told this story. Because it's his true, it's his reality. That's what his childhood was like. I mean, I tell a story about, I tell a lot of stories about my parents and you know,

and I told it when they were alive in my book, but now I'm like, I can joke about like, you know, things that probably would be considered not great parenting today. So, yeah, alright, I take it back. A stand up. How do you feel about the new New York cast? They're coming back. I love their outfits, by the way. They look good.

I mean, yeah, because that's all they have, just nice outfits. I mean, I will go on record and I think that the- But you are on record, this is the recording. Yes, well I'm doubly on record. It is officially the worst Housewives for me out of all of them. Like I even think Dubai is better and like Dubai is horrible. It's, I always call it a show about nothing.

It's like nothing happens. I mean, I try to remember last season. I'm like, someone didn't like something with the cheese platter. And I remember there was- You're right there. What was? There was nothing. And then there was an episode where Uber stole a hot sauce from the, or, you know, I don't know, ketchup from like a restaurant.

And they would try to turn it into like a moment. They were running around going, oh my God, we stole ketchup. And they would try to turn it into like a moment. They were running around, going, oh my God, we stole ketchup. And they ran off and I'm like, what am I watching? Like this is terrible. What is this? I just, horrible. It's awful.

Yeah, it's, it's not, there isn't a lot. Well, it's like, I agree. And getting, we're getting to Dubai. Let's just talk about Dubai. Wait, I just want to say, sorry, with Rony quickly, the most entertaining one was Psy. Yeah. She was super entertaining and everyone hated her.

Like they were like, fire Psy. And I'm like, she's literally the only one doing anything on this damn show. I interviewed her and she's just like very normal. Yeah. She's cool. She's yeah. She understands the assignment too. Yes.

Wait, I want to insert this little story post recording because after Jacques left, I'm so bummed that I forgot to have him talk about post-recording because after Jacques left, I'm so bummed that I forgot to have him talk about when he wrote a story for the Daily Mail about Rebecca Minkoff, who's a famous designer, but she's also a Scientologist. She has photos with Danny Masterson, who, you know, went to prison for rape and was on TV shows with Ashton Kutcher and all of that. Now we know the history of Scientologists as far as you know what we've heard that sometimes they get angry if you talk about them they follow you they you know

they can do things. Well that is what happened to Jacques after he wrote a story about Rebecca Minkoff's father who was implicated in the, he is a doctor and he was implicated in a death of a Scientologist. And after he wrote this article, which you can Google and find that Jacques wrote, then he said the bots came after him, he had to change his Twitter account. They really had a harassment going, in his opinion, coming from Scientologists for sharing the story. Now, she is not in this poster. I don't know if she just didn't bring it,

or maybe she realized after this article, this is probably not the greatest platform for me to be on, being that I am a Scientologist, and there's this history that happened with my father, who, you know, it was like 20, 30 years ago, but it did happen. And I don't want to brought up on the show. It's already been brought up in the Daily Mail, but it was kind of scary and awful for him as a reporter. And I just wanted to share that little bit. So okay, now back to the show. over 1,400 airport lounges worldwide. Redefine possible with Business Platinum. That's the powerful backing of American Express.

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put it on to fall asleep. But I kind of like it for just like their outfits and going to eat and whatever. But the only thing interesting about it, there literally is nothing interesting about it except this one girl. I don't even know what her name is. I think Sarah. No, Talene. Oh, Talene. The new one is know what her name is. I think Sarah. No, Talene. Oh, Talene. The new one is, I think, is that season? Sarah, I know it's Sarah.

But that's the season one cast, I think. No, you're right. Yeah, you don't even have Talene in that. Okay, sorry, this is Sarah. This is Sarah. This girl, Sarah, is divorced, and she has a little boy who's like eight. And she starts dating this guy,

and then she goes, you know, he's too controlling. I got offered $45,000 to do this podcast. So did I. And you did. And so anyway, I've talked about how I've been getting these emails of people saying, come on this podcast for $3,500. Have you heard me talk about that? No, wait, so are you getting cash offers?

They're fake. Oh, okay. They pretend to be like from SmartList or Candice Cameron or whoever. Joe Rogan, I got one from Joe Rogan. I've gotten from all the best, okay? And they're fake. They want, they somehow they'll get,

they'll say it's a Facebook live event. And the whole thing is they'll take your, they'll fuck up your Facebook somehow. Okay. Take all your people. I don't know. Thank God I caught on. Just give us your bank details. Yeah. So somebody was like, do you think that 45,000 podcast thing, I think that she meant, I don't know. Do you think it was that she was saying she was going to do one podcast

for $45,000 and the boyfriend wouldn't let her because the guy was hot? Or was it her year contract was $45,000? Oh, okay. Yeah, maybe it's a year or maybe she meant to say 4500 instead of 45,000. I don't know. Well, no one's getting any money for podcasts. I hope that they're doing the reunion today and I hope they'll talk about it. Yeah, that's what we want to know. Does anyone care? Okay, wait. No, but the only thing juicy about it is, I'll tell you, the only thing juicy about it was so then she has a housekeeper like nanny made whatever.

And she's like, Oh my god, you guys, we had to fire her because I found out that she was being bringing men into the apartment and looking at all the stuff. And then she and then like on the ring cameras and on the WhatsApp or whatever that she was able to retrieve from the cops, the men were like, when does the boy come home? He's so cute. How old is he? Like a hundred percent.

And the whole thing that they brag about Dubai is that it's very safe, very, very safe. So that was the only thing that I was like, this is so creepy and has to be discussed. And, but it doesn't make- That should have been in the trailer and like- It doesn't make Dubai look great, but it's the only thing that was interesting

because the other thing is there's Caroline Stansbury, who was ladies of London, and she has a young husband who's like 26, Sergio, who's obsessed with her and she's annoyed by his presence. And for the last three years, or whatever it's been, season one and two, all they talk about is he wants a baby and she's 48.

It's so boring. And she's not ever gonna have his kid. She hasn't gotten pregnant yet. She's never going to have his kid. She doesn't want one. She's 50. She doesn't want a kid at 50. GER And then you have Chanel Ayan who goes out to grab a loaf of bread in a ball gown. I think she's honestly the number one most annoying. I thought Jen Shah was and then they dropped Chanel Ayan and I'm like, oh wow, this is bad.

LESLIE She's very unenjoyable to watch. GER I feel like it doesn't even feel like a Housewife show to me. I'm like, oh wow, this is bad. She's very unenjoyable to watch. I feel like it doesn't even feel like a housewife show to me. I kind of, I feel like what they should have done with this, this, if I was the producer at Bravo, I would have actually made it ladies of Dubai. I wouldn't have made it real housewives because you know, ladies of London, the concept of that was the American expats in London living there. So I feel like they should have done that and just made it Caroline's back and

now it's ladies of Dubai. And I actually think that people would have enjoyed it more if it was like a new show. And I think as well, when they keep expanding the Housewives thing, I think what's bad about it is that everyone's been watching Housewives for so long, they know the formula and they play it up. That's why you got Chanel Ayan being ridiculous. And they try to have all of these one liners and it just doesn't feel organic. And I kind of just feel like maybe they should do some other shows so people aren't coming and going, okay, I know I'm a real housewife and this is the formula and the boxes that I have to tick. Right. Yeah. So, Dorinda is going to have her own show at Bluestone Manor. I'm going

to do everything really nice. I'm going to have this beautiful chef. I have a fabulous chef. I make a lasagna that is better than Brandy's. I'm going to cook. I'm going to clean. Everyone's going to love it. You're going to be in rooms. There's going to be balloons. Richard's going to be here.

You know, they're trying to copy Below Deck now with all these shows because they've got Dorinda and it's going to be Dorinda in Blue Stone Manor and then guests are coming in. It's going to be so cheap. Think about it. These kids are going to want to be on the show being like a housekeeper or whatever for nothing, just like the blow deck. And then the thirsty people will want to be guests and they'll be able to exploit them if they ask for anything or whatever, then they'll say they're horrible people or they might be kind of interesting.

Formula of what, cause they did it with Vanapam Villa. They have one in Montana coming out now called the Wranglers and it's just below deck, but at a ranch and you know, I think the reason below deck works specifically cause it's such a good show is you're on a boat in the middle of the ocean. So you can't get off. It's such confined quarters and then you have like the most incredible chefs. So you get all of the food. And then I think you do actually get wealthy guests coming on there and you get the backdrop. Yeah, because you have to pay at least 50,000.

And I think just being like, well, let's just do below deck in a house. Like it's just not the same. It could be fun though. It could be kind of great. I just feel like this is so lazy. What I would do for this is I would have thirsty ex-Bravo people and people like that be the guests. That would make it good. I would watch it then, yeah, if it was just ex-Bravo. If they offered it to me, sure, why not? Why wouldn't I? But I'm not paying 50 grand for

the boat, but I would do it for free and have fun with it. I mean, Kelly Rollins will come. She never turns down. A fake listing showing, whatever. That chick is in everything. Larsa Pippen will probably be in there. Larsa Pippen will come for sure. I mean, bring on Gretchen Slade. Oh, I would like that actually. Well, we're never going to see Gretchen in the season of Girls Trip that she did. Everybody that was on Girls Trip should be able to come with their own friends and family and do this show. Speaking of which, so the Girls Trip we know, we will never see the light of day because

Brandi Glanville allegedly grabbed Caroline Manzo's tits. And so anyway, I was like, do I even follow her? I don't. Now I do. Anyway, she has a book coming out in September. It's her favorite meals, Caroline. Who's still giving her a book deal? Like the season didn't even air. I'm just surprised. I mean, it's just recipes. I don't know. I know, but still. A lot of books are done. You can do them yourself. Yeah, you just put it on Amazon. Yeah, I don't even, whatever.

So what do you think was the deal with that, with her filing the lawsuit and everything? Because she did file suit, right? Caroline did. Yes. I think she had too much to drink. I think she had fun with Brandy. I also think, I know you floated the theory that she revealed too much about Dina and

stuff like that. Dina and the brother-in-law and all that. Yes. And then I just think she went, I don't want this airing. And she filed a lawsuit to suppress it. And I always felt really bad with Brandy for that too, because the thing with Brandy, it's like they hire her on purpose to be sloppy and messy and get drunk. Like that's why she gets hired. And she knows that. That's why she is on that show. They don't hire her to be sober. So she's

probably there knocking back the wine, going, I'm going to do my job. Let me, you know, be inappropriate. Remember she slapped Lisa Vanderpump on the face and threw wine at Eileen. Like that's why they, they have her on these shows. And so she's just doing her job. And then I think she got completely screwed over after. And I hung out with her one night at, it was like a, it was bizarre. It was this Beverly Hills Plastic Surgery Center and it was an interesting- Oh yeah, I was invited to it but I couldn't go. I think I asked you to come. I was like, Heather, are you coming to this? Yes.

Well, it was a pretty fun night actually, because I was hanging out with Brandy and Phaedra all night. Yes. No, I wanted to go. I couldn't. Yeah. And yeah, I talked to her about it and she kind of felt the same and she was going through a rough patch with it all. Well, somebody said, somebody wrote me, who's a therapist, psychiatrist. So this is their theory, not mine. Could it be that Caroline Manzo might have struggled with her own sexuality throughout her life,

and there was something that was triggering? Now she says no, the triggering was because she was a victim as a child. But I don't know. Well, she's, let me look at that book cover. I mean, come on. Uh, yeah, I think there's probably something to that theory. I mean, remember when Bronwyn joined Housewives of OC, she was kissing Tamra.

I think they got drunk and were groping each other's, you know, titties. And then it was like, Oh, she looked like she enjoyed that a little too much. And the next season, she was like, I'm a lesbian now. So, yeah. Well, speaking of New York, we do have, we do have a real lesbian and her girlfriend. We have the Jenna Lyons. But she's still not showing the girlfriend,

which was another annoying. I didn't understand the obsession with the Jenna Lyons from New York, but people are obsessed. Oh my god, the most, I actually think she's the worst. Okay, Rony is the worst Housewives show. Rony reboot, obviously not the original. Jenna Lyons is the, I think is the worst housewife ever. I mean, she was too scared to give an opinion. I felt like she just sat in the corner

like with her teeth chattering or something, like terrified. Like she reminds me of like a shaking chihuahua. Like she's too scared. Okay. I'm going to make a prediction. Yes. I think you're going to eat your words. Do you think she's going to bring it season two?

I think this is going to be a good season now. I think they got their feet wet. They had, I think it's going to be, they're going to bring it cause they're going to want it to be a hit. And so they're all going to. The trailer was horrible. Oh, I don't even know if I saw the trailer. It was bad. Well, let's keep, let's move on. Okay. So Denise Richards has her show. We've

talked about that. Um, I can't wait to see that. Cause I did not realize that you said one daughter is super Christian. Yes. And the other one is on OnlyFans. Yes. So she has two daughters, Sammy and Lola. Sammy's on OnlyFans, you know, doing it. I mean, I don't know how much she's doing on there. I think, I think she misleads people with the posts. I think she makes it look like you're going to see porn and then you get there and it's just like, oops, I'm in a handbra, you know, like a bait and switch. But then the other daughter, Lola, works a regular job. I think she works at a cafe or something. She's super Christian. She posts about Jesus all the time. She looks like very wholesome. So I think that'll be an

interesting dynamic, like the Christian daughter and the OnlyFans daughter and their family. And you know, Denise is very entertaining. When Denise and Charlie Sheen's daughter went right from high school to OnlyFans to make a living, I was just a little bit like, look, I know you can make this money here and I think it's great that women and men can make money on this. However, I was like a little heartbroken because I'm like, you know, not only are you attractive, but you come from this incredible acting pedigree of like your grandfather being Martin Sheen, your dad is Charlie Sheen, your mom is like, you don't want to act at

all or you just don't want to like take an acting class or what. But then, but then like, maybe it's just that she doesn't want to, maybe, maybe some people just like that they could just stay in their house all day. Yeah, I mean, look, if you can turn 18, do OnlyFans for a few years, and you're not even like, I don't think she's doing porn on there. I literally think, I think the most you would see is topless. Yeah. Which is like a big deal, okay, topless. And then you can make enough money to like invest in real estate.

And then so, you know, do a few topless selfies for a few years and then buy a couple homes and then set yourself up. Like, why not? I mean, I get the criticism for OnlyFans, right? But I just think like it's a fucking tough economy. It's hard to make it out here. If you can make a few bucks and you know, invest it wisely, like why not? This girl, I saw like her TikTok and she's just like a cute girl, whatever. And she's in what looks to be like a nice modern home, two story. And she's like enjoying my new house that 200,000 men have paid for, whatever it is. Like, yeah, and if they like exactly if people are willing to pay for it and that you want to do that. But I mean, I do think, I do think you have to be really okay that no matter what, that

it'll never... I mean, I wouldn't want my child to do it. Yeah. I just feel like someone... It might affect you later. It really might. You like in something that you want to do. But maybe not, maybe not. Maybe people just don't really care. So I mean, it shouldn't. But look, I think it depends to what

the level that you're doing it as well. I mean, if you're on there showing your butthole and like hardcore stuff, and then it's like, and that's like being important. Yeah, and then 15 years later, it's people can Google your butthole. Like maybe that's not great. But it's just being like sexy and like, yeah, talking, having some assistant act like you do to talk to the people. Right? You know, I know heaps of only fans, models and companies and stuff. And what they do is say you were on the bachelor, right? Yeah. And then you've got some following and then you think, Hey,

I could probably go on only fans. Now there's some interest in me. Usually what they'll do is they just sign with a company straight away. The company manages everything. They take a huge cut. They take, I think it's between like 40 to 60%. But they literally do everything. They respond to all the messages pretending that they're you. And they look at like analytics to be like, okay, like the photo of you

showing your feet got more likes than the boot photo. So we need more feet photos and they just send you a thing at the end of the month. And then the creators will like do a shoot day and bank all the content and then send it off to their manager and they put it out. So most of it's fake because I think a lot of the thing as well is that people are actually paying for the DMS more than the photos because it feels like a more intimate personal connection. But like you're literally talking to someone in the Philippines that's been outsourced. So you're not talking to Denise Richards.

So I mean listen, I think we figured that out. But now we've really cracked it open on Juicy Scoop. So do you think eventually, they probably don't appreciate that this is getting known, but that people will, you know, those same losers that are paying the money, they're going to struggle with the same down word accommodate me as everybody else. Will this be something that they are like, okay, I'm not paying for this anymore? I mean, I don't know. I'm broke in LA and I subscribed to someone's OnlyFans like a few days ago. This guy I follow on Instagram,

he's been doing a lot of underwear selfies for months. And I was just like, please, please drop the OnlyFans. They did, it was 13 bucks. And I was like, it was probably the first subscriber. So- And was it good? Was it worth it? It was worth it. But now I've seen it, I'll be unsubscribing.

Cause now I've got it. So that's another tip that you've got to do is actually, if you're on OnlyFans, it's better to not give it all away because then thirsty people like me keep thinking, God, if I just subscribe another month, like I'll finally see it. So if you put it all out there straight away, no one has any incentive to come back. So you've got to keep teasing them. It's like breadcrumbing them. That's what they call it.

And do people are, I mean, I remember like Dorinda was on OnlyFans and stuff, but not like showing sexy stuff. I know that they've, they've come to me and asked me to do it. Um, and they're like, you could do comedy. You could like do different things, like show your house, whatever. Do those people do, is there anyone popping in that category on OnlyFans? No, and they've tried and they're still trying. I just think OnlyFans has become so synonymous with pornography now.

There's other platforms, like I actually got a pitch from, I can't remember what the company was called, but it's like a PG version where you can't do any nudity, anything sexual, it's just extra content. And people are making money on that, but OnlyFans, it's hard. But like they're doing reality shows now. They did a show with this, do you know that UK reality show, The Only Way is Essex? It's like, it's huge over there and it's actually big in Australia. They, a family from that, they quit that show, they moved to LA, they did their own OnlyFans show on OnlyFans TV. It's like PG and it's like a full reality show. And then it just got like picked up by Netflix or something.

So I think people are doing stuff on there, but it's pretty hard to make it without getting your titties out on there. Yeah. And I wonder if it's like her, like, it's just interesting that she would choose to do a reality show if she was really making 2 million a month. I think I wouldn't want to do a reality show. I was really making two million a month. I think I wouldn't want to do a reality show if I was making two million a month. I think she probably made a lot of money right off the top, which is another thing that happens,

especially if you're a celebrity coming out, like you get a rush of subscribers and then they leave really quickly. So that's why a lot of people, they join only fans and they're like, you know what, I'm just going to do lingerie, I'm not going to do anything hardcore. And they get all those subscribers and then people go, well, are you going to show more? I'm going to unsubscribe. So then you have to up the ante to keep making money on there. So I think she probably made a shit ton of money in her first three months maybe, and then it would have gone off a cliff.

And now she's doing a reality show again. Right, where she started. Yeah. Remember she had that reality show? Yes it's complicated. Denise Richards it's complicated. Yes and she had like a pig and all that stuff. It was pretty good. That's like the classic yeah. There was a scene in that it was so staged but it was all about how like she was getting written about in the tabloids so she like storms in with a camera crew to confront like the editor of Star magazine. Like you better stop writing about me. This is affecting my kids. And they did a whole thing. It was so fake, but I love it.

Yeah. Well, I always love it when a reality star is like, Heather Dubrow said it too, like in her show, you know, she was like, this was affecting my children. And she meant like rumors about infidelity or whatever. And I said it on the show earlier, but I don't believe that any 20 something called their friend in college and was like, hi, I was on this website and it's like, are your parents getting divorced? Like there's no way.

But I also think you chose to go on a reality show about your life. You've literally talked about getting divorced and all this other stuff. You've talked about the issues you had with your kids. So if something then comes out that's not on the show, yeah, it's still a reality show. You should talk about that.

It's affecting your life. But like, come on. There's no privacy in reality show. You chose to do it. You chose to put your kids all on camera about that it's affecting your life, but like, come on. There's no privacy in reality show. You chose to do it. You chose to put your kids all on camera and have everybody scrutinize how they've grown up, if they are respectful, if they're attractive. Like that's what you did. Yeah. You know what you signed up for.

Yeah. Okay. What do you think is happening with New Jersey? Oh my God. I keep going back and forth. But I was saying before, I loved last season. I thought it was like Game of Thrones. They were all fighting for their, you know, to be the queen. And my predictions are, I think they're going to get rid of Margaret. And I love Margaret, by the way. I'm not a tree hugger. I'm team Margaret, but I think they'll get rid of Margaret. I think they'll get rid of Jennifer Aiden. I think they'll get rid of Margaret. I think they'll get rid of Jennifer Aiden. I think they'll get rid of Teresa. And I even think Rachel, they, I don't know, I think they'll definitely, I think they'll keep Dolores and Danielle Cabral.

Okay. I have a new prediction. I think it will go away. They'll use the girls in other capacities, whether it's the girls trips or going on to Rindish or whatever. Yeah, but, and then they'll find some other city that kind of fits the original vibe of Jersey with like real relatives, real deep, and like little younger, like it was when they started. They started in like their mid to late thirties.

And they'll just try to find some groups, like they're kind of doing with like the Hulu girls of the Mormon wives. Like I think just find a whole, a whole nother generation that's willing to like put it out there. Yeah. And because the younger generation is gonna be like,

well, it won't happen to me. You know, you always think you know. Yeah. I won't get divorced. Oh, I'll make sure that, you know, my secrets aren't shared and all. Like, you know, speaking of like sharing secrets, Gina from original OG was saying in an interview,

she was like, you know, I tried to tell, you know, I tried to tell Tamra, you know, remember when Tamra threw the wine on her? Because she was like, you're getting involved in my marriage and you're talking to Simon. And she was like, the whole thing I was trying to do was trying to tell Tamra like, if you don't want to bring up this ugliness

and everything on TV, because then he might lose his $300,000 a year job, and you still want him to pay you support. So think about that. That's all I'm saying. She's like, I wasn't necessarily on Simon's side. I was just trying to say like, the same thing that she said to Gina Kirshen.

Kirshen Hyena. I can never. She was like, if you bring up the ugliness The same thing that she said to Gina Kirshen. Kirshen Hyena. I can never. She was like, you know, if you bring up the ugliness of this relationship, it can really affect him ever getting another job like in the private sector. Gina K. regrets it now. I think she's admitted that. I think she said that she wishes that it hadn't been so public.

Because now they have worked things out and they have a really good co-parenting and he took responsibility and they're in a really good place. And I think she did say that it affected him getting work and everything. Yeah, I mean, I think he got fired from that right away. And yeah, so as I say, and then she was like, and then Shannon Bedore didn't like me because I went up to Shannon because I had said Shannon Bedore shouldn't say on the show that she hasn't had sex with David Bador for a year. And then it was like, well, that's why people love her because she is so honest about her misery. Yeah. The reason people

love Shannon Bador is because her life sucks. Well, does it? It feels like she is our own West enemy. I mean, not her life, but she, women that are watching this show, nothing makes someone get more excited than when their girlfriend calls them and goes, guess who's getting divorced. I'm really sad to say it. We're awful people, especially people that are like Gen X women, like Karens. They are mean and jealous. And so they don't, I mean, they say they wanna see people strive, whatever. But so the fact that she was always so honest

about her drama, my husband's cheating, I don't have, he doesn't wanna have sex with me. Now I have this new boyfriend, he doesn't wanna spend the night. He'll never have enough money to take care of me. You know, we fight, like it's just, now he's suing her, like all of it is true. It is her life. It's why she makes for great TV

because she never hides anything. She takes off her shirt when she's overweight. You know, it's like, it's amazing. But also it's going to be hard to have a real relationship. What guy? I mean, that's why Ramona, she had to like, the only reason she found another boyfriend But also it's going to be hard to have a real relationship. What guy? I mean, that's why Ramona, she had to like, the only reason she found another boyfriend is because they fired her.

Nobody wanted to date Ramona that was of any substance. Shannon, I think when the show ends for Shannon, which it will at some point, I mean, I thought this would be her last season now I'm watching it and she's actually having a really great time. I think she's probably got a couple more seasons in her. Um, she's sort of like the queen of the show right now. But I think when it ends for her, she really needs to like, probably get a therapist or something and be like, all right, I'm done with my time on television

and fame stuff and reality TV. And now I'm going to lead a real life and like try and meet someone like Ramona did. I don't think she ever wants to give up the show. Of course not. But when she gets fired, she'll get fired eventually. I mean even Tamra, I mean they brought her back because it tanked without it. But everyone gets fired. Listen, if you're going to do a live show and tap dance and stuff, you love it.

They love the fandom. She probably always secretly wanted to be an actress because that was the only thing that you could do. She probably thought, oh, I could be on Friends, but never pursued it. And then here comes this great opportunity dropped in your lap where people are literally

following you around with a camera hanging on your every word. It's really going to be really hard to ever give that up money or not. She might do a podcast after when she, when she gets fired. I'm sure. But those, those are not really working out the way they were. So we'll see what happens. Okay. So it seems that the only agents that are making money are ones that are doing huge podcast deals for people. And the Kelsey huge podcast deals for people. And the Kelsey brothers, Travis and Jason, are getting a hundred million dollar deal through Wondering Amazon to have their podcasts for a year or

two. Thank you, Taylor. I mean, that's all thanks to Taylor Swift because, you know, no one even knew that, I mean, look, whatever, I'm sure some people knew that he had a podcast before, but I feel like really it started going viral because when he got linked to Taylor, he was always dropped these little crumbs in there of things that were going on with them. And then I think everyone was tuning in to listen to what they had to say, the Taylor stuff and it's just blown it up and now he has a hundred million dollar deal.

Like. Well, I think maybe she put eyes on it, but you know, they do talk about sports. They are launching this new thing right at the beginning of football season. So they can talk about sports. They have the brotherly connection. They're likable. I'm sure it's a good show, but I just mean like, with our tailor, they would never have been getting off at a hundred million dollars.

Like, they would have done well. I'm sure it would have been successful. I mean, it all just comes down to, we believe enough people will be listening that we can make these ad dollars. So take your money now and go for it. But being that they're brothers then they don't really need guests. They can always just do it and they have that built in chemistry. So yeah, I mean, Travis is, he's pretty thirsty because he had a reality show before Taylor. So he had a dating show and everything. So, you know, I think he, I think he and Taylor are both extremely strategic in everything that they, they put out there. Uh-huh. So-

Do you think they're getting married or not? Uh, do I think they're getting married? I don't know. It seems like a good business arrangement for now. I think Taylor does things for the image and where it's going. I think she puts her career first above everything, including this relationship. So I think they'll get married if she thinks that it will continue to help her. But she might not want to get married cause she might be like, you know what? I need another breakup for my next album. Or maybe where she wants to take it. Now she's getting older.

She will want to get married and she'll be like, you know what? I can divorce him in a few years and then do my divorce album. I really think that's how she thinks. I think she, everything for her is pure strategy. I don't even, I don't look at her as like a normal person. I know this like a weird hot take, but I just think she's like kind of like a psychopath or something. I don't know. I think she's like a diagnosable. Like I don't think she's normal. A little bit like Bethany Frankel. Like I just think there's certain people

that have something wrong with them and it's just all about, you know, the media and making money and that's all they care about. Okay, that was pretty good. And speaking of Bethany Frankel, what do you think? She had her chicken salad summer. And what do you think's going on with her? Broke up with the boyfriend.

Yeah, she's a fiance. You know what I was noticing about her page recently? I remember when, and I think she thought this out, I think she had this planned out a lot. When she first started doing the beauty reviews and everything on there, she would really make a big deal about, this isn't sponsored, it's just me organically,

and now every post she does is sponsored. They're all brand collaborations, but at the beginning, she really made a big deal about how it's just my true opinion because I'm the truth teller, I keep it real, everyone else is a liar except me. But that's what was so smart about it. She did that. And then pivoted into the, yes.

And then would send those to the company and be like, do you want to do a collab? I have two million views on this. And bring it on, cause I'm not gonna talk about it anymore unless you do bring the money. I think it was kind of genius. Oh, of course.

I mean, she's amazing the way that- And people that wanna be influencers, even if you have 300 people following you, you should follow her plan. And if you really 300 people following you, you should follow her plan. And if you really have products that you like, then you should do it and tag them and see if they won't come at you. But I think now if the check's big enough, she doesn't have to like it. She'll do it. And I am so curious at how much money she's making in general. I wonder if it's more than

she was making on reality TV or in real estate. Cause like, if you're like a high level influencer, you can get a lot of money. I mean, even in back in Australia, which is a small market, I know people that would get off of, you know, a reality show, bachelor, married at first sight or whatever. And they could do some, you know, 10 K, 20 K, 25 K.

And they're just like small Bethany with her thing. For like a one story. Yeah, yeah. For like, yeah. A little video, yeah. Yeah, so with her ads, which she has so much engagement, like she'd be, and she does so many of those posts, like she's doing like multiple ones a day. Yes. So, I mean.

That's basically all she does. Yeah. So it's like, no, I mean, it's, yeah, I think she tried all those things, you know, she was going to do the reality reckoning kind of a band of that. She was doing the strong event. Yeah, what happened to that? She was gonna have all these shows the big shot Yeah, she's gonna have these shows where like I'm gonna show you how to be an entrepreneur That she had a podcast like that did didn't do that. Then she was like, okay now I'm gonna talk about real housewives Okay now I'm not talking about the real house with them. I'm gonna talk about the divorce Well now I'm gonna like be sued or who knows what. Stop that. But she, you know, look,

I would not be surprised if, you know, in a couple years or less, she's back doing some type of TV. She's always changing and pivoting. Yeah. She's trying to be a YouTuber as well. She was doing, she was having them all follow around to do YouTubing, they're like enhance her influencing stuff. So yeah, she does it all. Can you still get her products though? Like do you see them? Cause you know what one of the-

We just need, we need to see her interact with people. What products? The bologna? Yeah, like the popcorn and the- because one thing that's been really fun for me, someone that's a fan of pop culture, moving to America, I can go to the supermarket and I can see like celebrity branded products. I'm like, there's the Cardi B whip shots, like, and you know, I was searching the aisles for Delola the other day. I was like, I need to try this Delola that she pretends to drink and I couldn't find it. I was distraught. But I haven't seen any skinny girl.

I don't even know if skinny girls around, you know, she sold it and then there was always talk of, did she really get a hundred million when she was on Forbes? Was that exaggerated? Like what, look, she's really, really wealthy. She has a fabulous life and she probably makes a lot of money and never has to worry about money again. And very privileged and all that kind of stuff.

But yeah, I mean, when it's fun is, because I had Luanne on, is like when she would be with people going back and forth. I think that's what we would love to see if she went on. But now it's been so long, I think some of the other women would be almost scared to be on a camera with her because she would just probably go for the juggler in a second. I don't think it would be...

I just feel like all that stuff has had its time. Sammy I remember she was trying to do her own reality show called Power about strong women in New York and then she said that the Real Housewives of New York City copied her concept. Jess Well, wasn't it about women in New York. And then she said that the real housewives of New York City copied her concept. Wasn't it about people, women in Connecticut or something? That was a different, I think she was trying to do that. And then she tried to do one. I think the one in Connecticut she was gonna be on.

And then I think there was one in New York called Power Her. And it was meant to be strong, successful women in New York. And then when the New York Housewives reboot came out, she was like, they copied my idea. It's like, I don't think that Rony copied you, but okay. Yeah, I think that was the other thing is that she tried to sell a bunch of shows and none were, none went. And then she just kind of had a moment where she snapped where she's like, I'm blowing up the bridge. I don't care. I'm blowing up the Bravo bridge.

Now she's over it. She's forgot that she even did that. Yeah. She'll probably see Andy out at Craig's or something, be like, hey, like nothing happened. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It was so great to talk to you. Tell everybody where they can follow you and what you're up to. Follow me on Instagram at unpopularjp and I post my daily mail stories there. I have a Patreon, the link is in the bio and you know, I'm always posting my hot takes and rants. So yeah, check me out there.

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