Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - P Diddy, Investigating Influencers? RHOBH, RHOC with Kempire

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

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I haven't talked about Diddy in a minute because I was just like, what is even going on? We're frustrated nobody else is ever being named. But some weird stuff happened yesterday. I had a friend send it to me who wrote, you might wanna stop talking about Diddy. Look at this. And it was a TikTok of this guy that I wasn't familiar with.

But he does, how would you describe his material? He does funny bits, but it's like a parody. I'm not really familiar with him either. But when I saw the story that apparently there were private investigators hitting up content creators, are you being paid to report on Diddy? And I was like, okay, so I looked at his stuff and I was like, but why this particular individual?

Yes, so anyway, so my friend sent this to me and I was like, wait, I think, now this also happens a lot with TikTok where someone is doing something funny, and the first 50 comments don't get that it something funny, like, and, you know, the first 50 comments don't get that it's funny, okay? So I was like, maybe this guy's joking. But no, TMZ is reporting on it now.

I saw another content creator discuss it. This girl, what is her name? Amelieke Pnobi, and she got 50,000 likes, so she's quite popular. She's a cute girl, and I guess 50,000 likes. So she's quite popular. She's a cute girl, and I guess she had the same investigators come to her. So according to what I saw is he thought his friend,

Donnell, who is a comedian I know, that they work together, was coming over. So he heard like a knock on his back door, and that's who we thought he was seeing to do like a podcast together. And these two guys, just two white guys like mid-40, 50 years old, are like, hey, we want to just talk to you. Are you the, you know, are the influencer named whatever his name was, Secret Service something? Secret Service Sam. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, what's this about?

And he's like, we just are curious. Are you being paid to do your videos about Diddy? And in watching it, I'm like, these guys aren't, in my opinion, not actors. They really do seem like they're just retired cops that got into investigating. They seem legit. And so he's like, No, I only have 100,000 followers. I don't make money off this from the videos, which I can attest to you have to have a lot more to make millions of significance.

And he's like, nobody, nobody's paying me. So then this other girl said the same thing happened to her. And another guy. Oh, there's a third one now? I found another guy that said the same thing. And it's the same two guys? Yes. OK. And are they all, did you figure out, were they all in LA?

Or what cities are they in? No. I forgot where Secret Service Sam is. He's not in, I don't know where he's located. And this other guy's located in Arizona, I think he said. So I'm like, why? What is going on? I think there's several things that could be going on.

Because I think, now that we are like, what is the truth? I think, just like when somebody goes, oh my gosh, look at this hate message I got. And the message is written from someone in this camp. So you would immediately think, this camp is horrible. Look at the hate message they sent to me. But now I'm like, you don't know that. Someone who hates that camp is posing

like their worst member, whether it's politics, celebrities hating each other, whatever, or the person puts it on themselves to say, I'm a victim, look how awful they are coming after me. So I feel like, so I'm like, wait, what are we? Because the first thing you would see this, you'd think, wait a minute, is that why I'm seeing? If you're just a non-person covering this, you might see, what if this isn't true about P. Diddy?

What if all these people that have infiltrated the internet with all their stories from I went to a Diddy party to 20 years ago he did this to me. What if all these people were being paid in an ultimate smear thing to get, he didn't need to go down so that these other bad people, you know what I mean? Trying to change the narrative. Yeah, so I think they're trying to, so that could be one story.

Or it could be that truly they did find some people that were getting paid just like we found with now influencers are coming forward and sharing that they were getting things from different political camps to either be pro influencers or diss the other side which I think gave them the idea to then put this out there for people to be like, what is it? Well, that's not far from the truth because literally the Southern District of New York that is charged Diddy has accused him of using his own children to change the narrative and

to manipulate potential jurors. So this is legally happening and he's being accused of doing this from his jail cell. Right. and he's being accused of doing this from his jail cell. Right, where it's like, well, which I don't agree with because you have kids and there's been kids who have stood by non-famous, their dad's being accused of killing their mother and from the famous case of the staircase, those kids stick by those people too, yeah.

The prosecution says that the conversations that he's had with his children about the engagement of said posts, he's talking about the analytics. Oh, he is. Yeah, so he's sort of like. So his conversations started being taped. He's really saying get out there.

Yeah, and just, what was it, this week, the judge ruled that the prosecution has to destroy his jailhouse note. So he was in his cell, you know, writing, I guess, different information about his case, including a Kalena Harper, who used to be his bandmate. Apparently he may have paid her to put out a statement after Don Rashard's lawsuit against Diddy telling her like, you know, that was not my experience. Wait, so his former bandmate. From Diddy Dirty Money.

Has spoken and said, you know, he was the greatest guy. Nothing bad happened to me. Basically. She also did a recent interview with a YouTube channel, and she didn't look the best. She looked inebriated. She looked high. So she's not the best witness.

Well, yeah, I think all these people that are telling their stories, I think all these people that are, you know, telling their stories, I feel like not one is there any real proof. There's the young girl who said I was, you know, trafficked from Riverside Social Services and kept in the tunnels of Bel Air. And I'm still like, and people said, are there these tunnels? And I'm like, I mean, there's permits and CFOs that you get of homes. Like when I was a realtor, we could get that

and we could see that this thing was added on and not with a permit or the original house was this size. So I'm like, if there really are tunnels underneath that were maybe built in 1930 when the house was originally built in the things of like, what if there's a war or something, I don't know. We would know if they were there and they'd be like, actually there are tunnels because this builder did that.

Like we don't have the answer to that. And so it's like, then we, you know, all the Jaguar Wright stuff. Oh, Jaguar. Who, you know, was singing like this, telling all this before he was arrested about what was going on. Then she did all these interviews.

Then I mean, people were doing impressions of her and everything. Oh, I love them. Which she liked, she like reposted some of them. Of course she does. She loves the attention. Here's the thing with Jaguar. I believe that Jaguar is telling the truth in a lot of ways,

but I think because of the notoriety that she's gained since then, she's adding a little sauce. She's really feeling herself in regards to it. So there's truth with what she's saying. And I've said this before, I think a lot of people right now will believe anything that you say about Diddy or Jay-Z,

you know, that nasty little couple that does nasty things, as she said in her Piers Morgan interview, anyone will believe it. I can tell you about the Diddy story that I have. I went to a freak-off party before with Diddy. You did? No! Oh!

See? See? Immediately, and I'm sure the audience probably thinks... No, you said it really convincing. I immediately saw you in a white outfit going about, you know, 15 years ago. You were just a little baby camp. Hanging out with Diddy. Yeah.

Hanging out with... See, that's the thing. And you won't believe anything. And look, I'm not saying that... Free Diddy, no. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that now people are jumping on the bandwagon, and I think real victims are not being believed because of that.

I mean, I think these cases, they do have to have some validity, like I've said before. Even if it was 20 years ago, in taking on the case, it's like, I wrote it in a journal, I told my mother, I told my best friend, and then the investigator for the attorney, it's like, I wrote it in a journal, I told my mother, I told my best friend, and then the investigator for the attorney goes and is like, yes, and she went here and this happened, blah, blah, blah.

So we think we've got someone here. But the guy has also, you know, got like now like 60 or 70 people, so it's like, you know. 120 at least. Well, it's up to 120 now. I mean, how many people are working at the law firm? 120 with Tony Busby alone in Houston. That's 120.

Then there were before that 12 civil suits as well. And Tony Busby says that he has multiple lawsuits coming too. He's being sued now by a high profile celebrity that says that he's trying to extort them. Well yeah, I mean if you are somebody that like, whatever, had a regrettable or not even regrettable night back in the day with Diddy and you're like, you know, I was only 18 and I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

And all right, I'll call this attorney. Maybe I didn't really realize like how fucked up it was, but now I do. And I'm like, how, you know, because I'm like thinking, how even, like, how is this money even gonna work with the pay, is there's gonna be like, hey, is he gonna do like a class action? He's gonna be like, look, there's so many of you, it's better that we just plop it all together, hope to get, you know, 20 million from Diddy,

and then you each get a portion and I get 40% of it. So I don't know. According to Tony Busby, it's not a class action. He's made that clear that he's filing individual lawsuits. But he's also said that there have been already some celebrities that have settled with some of these victims that have been naming other people that may have been at these Diddy parties. So this news.

Which is all like adding to this. And also, listen, everybody that's part of this, you know, either went to the party because they were fascinated by celebrity or wanted to be one themselves. So now whether all that you know, and now everybody listen, everybody wants to be famous, everybody has an Instagram account, most everybody has a podcast. Everyone has a TikTok account. So it's like, if I can have a moment just to say I went to this one party just to get any kind of thing.

Yeah, we're seeing it all and it's a lot. But as, again, I keep saying, who are the other people? I think those other people are going to be named. Not everyone, not everyone. But based off what we heard from the Southern District of New York this week in response to, because you know, Diddy is trying to get bail, I believe Friday is when they're supposed to have the next bail hearing. He's already been denied bail twice, but he has a new judge, so he has an opportunity to seek bail again. I think because of what we found out in the prosecution's response is that he's doing things

from the jail in regards to manipulating witnesses from the jail from outside, I think he's going to start dropping names. Well, that would be very interesting. And I think the names we will find out will be not the names that people have been throwing out there, Kevin Hart, Jay-Z, Meek Mill. I don't think it's going to be those people.

Not as high profile. Yeah. I think not as known as we know them. OK, do you have any insight that you can't say? No. Not at the moment, Heather. Those guys knocking on your door. I'm not trying to get sued Heather. Come on now. Also Diddy Suns issue a cease and desist over Kim Porter's book.

Yes. The second book. Okay, explain. There was the first book, Kim's Lost Words, that hit number one on Amazon, which they eventually pulled because everyone- And who is the person who claims that they got the drive from her and printed it out? What is that guy's name again? There are two different people. Okay. There is the first book that came out, the second book, Courtney Burgess, who I don't believe really knew Diddy like that.

I think he's just the middleman. He received it from some source. He's done interviews with News Nation, talking about the book, and he didn't seem like the most credible. But again, I think he's just the middle man. And apparently he is the one that they sent the cease and desist to in regards to this second book that he's trying to put out, saying that, no, this is the real book.

These are Kim's lost words. Kim's best friend says that that's not true. The family has said that that's not true. But now they're legally taking action, saying that, you know, within a certain period of time, you have to take this down. Yeah, I mean, because anybody could have just, you know, like what's, you know, someone could just go here's Heather's lost like, you know, and also I Just thought of a crazy thing with the AI. Oh Now let's say I went

Missing okay, and all of some is like, you know, hey, I Heather this is coming from Heather's housekeeper. This was the drive and here's the book they housekeeper, this was the drive, and here's the book. They, knowing my life and knowing my timeline of my life, because it's all over Instagram and everything, and same with Kim Porter's, you know, you could talk about the fight happened after this crazy party and people could go, wait, there was a crazy party that, you know, and then you can do how does Heather speak and write, AI being that I wrote two books. And then this thing could come out, it could kind of sound in my voice. Now I don't know Kim Porter's voice,

but the little bit that I saw, I said, I think this is bullshit. I just, this just doesn't sound like a memoir, journal-y type of way that a woman that's been through what she's been through would describe these situations, but I don't know. Well, this goes back to what you were speculating at the top. Are these things that are coming out trying to manipulate what people think?

And some people have said the first book, that's what they believe. There was someone that was closely connected to Diddy and Kim Porter that just put this out there to throw people off the scent. To make people go, I don't believe anything now. Oh my god. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering now.

Do I believe that there was a book? Word on the street, Kim had openly said that she was working on a book. So there is a book. And how do you feel about, you know, speculation about did she really die from pneumonia or was there foul play involved? At this particular point, look, the kids have said that's not true. However, at this particular point, not everything has to be a lie when it comes to Diddy.

There has to be some sort of truth. And the reason that Diddy has been able to get away with what he's been able to get away with for 30 plus years is because he knows people. And outside the music industry, he knows politicians, the Tom Girardi of it all. That's how he was able to get away for decades because he had the pockets of people in law enforcement,

politicians, people in power. Right. And I don't know if you knew this, there was this conspiracy theory the day that Diddy was arrested, all of these CEOs decided to step down from their positions. Oh that's right. Including Kevin Lyles. Now who's Kevin Lyles? He's a big music industry executive and he stepped down from the 300 entertainment group. And Sony right? The Sony guy did. Yeah.

And why would it behoove them to step down at that moment? Because they're probably scared of what Diddy knows. And I do believe Diddy has. And they would rather step down, take their money, and just hope that, let me put my head in the sand, and hope that I'm not in a position to be pointed at. Yeah. Yeah.

Right, or they weren't participatory, but they certainly helped with hush money, or kept people happy so that they don't speak or whatever. Yeah, because you think about it, if all of a sudden you're in bed with this diddy for his clothing or his glasses or whatever he was doing, the liquor, and then somebody's like, I'm gonna, I have evidence, I have photos,

I have this, I have that, he was with under you know, underage people, blah, blah, blah. Then they're gonna be like, what do we need to do to make you feel whole again? So that we don't have to clear out all the Sean John glasses and sweatshirts for Macy's. But you remember, even before he got arrested, all of those things were falling apart for him already. Macy's had already pulled Sean John.

He was losing a lot, and money. And were they because it just wasn't hip and cool anymore, or was it because of the stuff? No, remember the Cassie video. Oh, because of... So, okay, I was thinking prior to, like, two years ago, was this stuff still hot? I feel like the Sean John clothes and stuff

were a little already, like... I don't know if it was hot. Like, it was a little over. It was hot. Macy's, but I don't know if it was hot. It was a little over. It was Macy's. But I don't know if it's... Yeah, I feel like the Ciroc was more like... On its way out. Yeah, like five, six years ago.

Yeah. I mean, he was definitely, according to Forbes, he was already losing money, but he's lost a lot of money in the last year because of the Cassie lawsuit and the Cassie video. Reconnecting with the people in your life is so important, and sending a holiday card is a meaningful way to do that. But it can be so hard. Cassie video. and we send them out to our very special Patreon peeps, and I hope you're one of them. Also, what I love is I get so many back from you, and I see the cutest families, dogs, vacation pics. I absolutely love it. And Shutterfly has a style for everyone. From classic seasonal designs to hand-drawn holiday cheer,

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Oh, Christian. Yeah, Christian, by the girl that was working on the yacht. Said that she was assaulted. And then the three boys attempted to fight Ray J at the Halloween party. What's going on with Ray J? Now he has a news channel. He has his own network. He's a journalist now.

OK, well good. Maybe this is why he's, maybe because of that, he's trying to be like, I'm going to set up the truth. And now I do have all this knowledge and stuff. And once, he's probably not the one that wants to point the finger. But once it all gets cracked open, and you know, I'm sure you have been like me where you get some

juicy tidbit about somebody. And you're like, Oh, God, I have so many thoughts about this. But I want to be the one who breaks the story because this is always me. This is a family and this is a housewife I like and, and then let somebody else break it open. Then once Daily Mail and you know, they pick it up. Then I can say, yeah, got that news, you know, a week and a half ago, but that's not what my show is. My show is not breaking news, blind items. That's not me.

But like, so I think he's waiting for these people to be arrested or whatever. And then he can go, okay, come to me, because I was there, I knew all this stuff. And now what I say will be proved to be. He's sort of alluding in these recent, like literally in the last week, he's sort of alluding to what he knows.

And he says that people are reaching out to him, worried about what Diddy might say or do. He also said that recently, because as you know, he was almost jumped by the Combs boys. Right. But he says he's good with them. He's had a conversation with them. He's good with them.

Okay. Very interesting. He's good with them right now. Now this is a crazy thing that came out from Daily Mail a couple days ago. Aerial photos show Diddy's 20 foot statue memorializing Kim Porter and her little quote, bononky-donk at his Los Angeles mansion as he languishes in jail. This is a real

article, okay? This is a huge statue of a woman's body much like in the front of the USC Coliseum there's a man and a woman's perfectly fit bodies that I think were erected for the 84 Olympics without heads. Okay. So it looks like that. Okay. And it says, Sean Diddy Combs mansion features this 20 foot chrome statuette said to be Kim

Porter and the statue, which highlights her little badonky dock was reportedly purchased by Diddy after a spiritual retreat three years before her death in 2018. And the mansion, which is valued at 62 million. I didn't realize it was worth that much. And now on the market for 61.5, oh, they dropped it 500,000. What a steal. A pair is empty and unused facilities covered outdoor furniture. So yeah, I mean, that's another thing. Like, you know, if you have all the money in the world,

even if you could get a deal on this house, it's almost like, yeah, it's the same thing of like, there was, you know, murders or whatever. Could you buy a house where there were murders? You always have to disclose if there's a murder. You don't have to disclose, you have to disclose if someone died, but unless it was a murder, you don't have to disclose, you have to disclose if someone died, but unless it was a murder,

you don't have to say what they died from. Because there was a time in the early AIDS epidemic where then people would say, oh, you know this person, whatever, died of AIDS here. And then that was very prejudice. And would then someone would think, oh, what is there some like weird germs? And of course we know.

So they said, then they changed the laws, at least in California. Only if there was like a murder, like police report murder type of a thing, you have to say it. But if someone just like died of some illness, hospice, whatever. You know what, I don't know that you have to say

even if someone died. Okay, that's a little bit good to know. Because my mom, I don't know why. Because before this law, my mom was a realtor, it was funny and was like, I'm about to croak, just throw me onto the sidewalk. I don't want you guys to have trouble selling this house. So I think there's different things,

but clearly this is something 30 years from now, if this house is still around, for obviously people could figure it out. But like, would it be something that would be like, oh, you know, that's the Diddy house. That's where, cause I don't even know. He's having a hard time selling it right now. Well, yeah. And it's also so, I mean, that's so expensive.

You don't have $62 million? Yeah, really. Oh wait, I want to take this one other story, which I also thought was so weird, because in choosing these stories to talk about, there isn't that much happening when it's not about P. Diddy. But this thing came from TMZ, and I'm like, what the hell is this? Author of Obama Beach House Sex claims book reveals who should play her in film.

I had to read this like three times. What are you talking about? claims book reveals who should play her in film. I had to read this like three times. What are you talking about? So Coria Duanen, I'm probably saying your name wrong, is an author of this book called Undercover Heartbreak, a memoir of trust and trauma. She helps her book detailing an alleged secret encounter at Barack Obama's Hawaii home

will be adapted into a film in her memoir she claims a secret service agent who was part of Obama's Hawaii home will be adapted into a film. In her memoir, she claims a Secret Service agent who was part of Obama's security secretly brought her into the former president's residence and suggested they have sex in Michelle Obama's bathroom. So as you're scrolling, you see this like pretty black girl being interviewed and you see Obama sex his home and Michelle's bathroom. And you're like, wait.

In all the years of Obama being out there, they never have said, no mistress has come forward, no nothing. Michelle has been like, I wanted to kill him for 10 years, whatever, like she's pretty honest about things. And I've always been like, I think if there was somebody, I just think we would know by now. But whatever. So I was like, wait a minute. And then I'm like, wait, so this guy was a secret service guy, met a girl. Obama wasn't even there. No, but he's the name.

Right, but also, like, of all the stories, there are probably so many girls, it's not the president, but there are probably so many girls where some guy worked for some powerful dude. Maybe he was his house manager, maybe he was just his errand boy, and he could impress a girl while the guy is on tour

and bring her up the stairs and bone her. But like this story and like making it sound like, like, oh, and then I fucked in Michelle's bathroom. This is the trashiest story. But she wrote a memoir. So what else is in this memoir? That took you two seconds to read. Yeah, so I'm like, okay, so, you know, and listen, Secret Service have written books.

They have done books where they say, this is the nicest president. This one was an asshole. This one ate weird food. It's like, even though they're not supposed to, it's kind of like they still, you know, they are Secret Service. But at the same time, like,

there's gonna be some really stellar ones. And then there's gonna be some thirsty, shady ones that wants to impress a girl, knows the code or whatever. I just was like, dude, this is not gonna be a movie. I don't believe it'll be a movie. Exactly, because that's the only part that's interesting.

Yeah, and it's not even that interesting. Exactly, it's not even, who picked it up, Tooby? I that's the only part that's interesting. Yeah, and it's not even that interesting. Exactly. Who picked it up, Tooby? Even though the house is gorgeous in Hawaii, whatever, and it's his house, it's like, it's just another rich person's second home that someone from his staff boned a girl there to impress her. God only knows what else Secret Service could tell us.

I mean, come on. There's probably even juicier stories than that. And it doesn't even involve Obama. It's his home. Yeah. It's funny. OK, let's talk about the premiere last night, A Real House is a Beverly Hills. This has always been my favorite franchise. We some of some of us have felt very slighted by Bravo, Some of us have felt very slighted by Bravo, in particular that we will probably never see

the Ultimate Girls trip, Morocco, and recently I did a live show with Brandi Howard, Brandi, not Brandi Flanagan, Brandi Howard, and she goes, I think that we should file a class action lawsuit against Bravo because we want to see that show. Like we wanna see, there's certain things where you're like, come on.

So this premiered and it is not disappointing. It is saving Tuesday nights because Roni is such trash. Beverly Hills is saving Tuesday nights. And so the way it was on last night on Bravo is this came then Roni. Lucky for them. And then watch problems live.

So they're trying to get people to like, you know, stay for the Rony. Yeah, no. I'm not even gonna, I'm not even really covering it cause there's just, There's nothing to cover. And nobody's really watching it and it's just, you know, and Dubai is gone.

Canceled. Oh, put on pause. That's Bravo's. Dubai. I'm just kidding. Yeah, the put on pause. That's bravo. Goodbye! I'm just kidding. Yeah, the put on pause is such a nice one. It's basically a guy breaking up with you just saying, I just need a break. We're just taking a break. Taking a little break. juicy because we get to reats telling Erica Jane and Erica Jane really I'm so glad she like didn't give up on life two years ago because it was everything I

mean there are certain people in this world that you really should look to and go you know you got to stick you got to stick it. Because now she's like, now she's never had a better personality. She's humble, she's likable, she's funny. Yeah, I mean, she was always that. She was just unlikable during that dark period. No, I think she came in not understanding what this really was and still being very reserved

because she was still under this man's thumb. Even though he let her go dance and be with her gaze while he had affairs and she was like, you fuck him, I don't need to. Like now we kind of know. But she was still like committed to this thinking I'll never be able to divorce him because I won't be able to walk away from anything because he's Tom Girardi. And so I think then, so now we get to see her just like, you know, like rebuilding and having fun. And so-

And looking great. Yeah, and interesting that she tells Erica that, because it was Erica who in a moment on BravoCon was like, who's the next to get divorced? And she was just like, three, you know, which again, also like it is, you know, in talking about these shows and stuff, and we've all made careers out of it, to say like, who's going to be the next that's going to be divorced is kind of...

Easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is kind of mean, but I mean, it's not surprising that their marriage wouldn't last because... I mean, there have been rumors around their marriage wouldn't last, because... I mean, there have been rumors around Dorit and PK for years. I honestly believe that they've just decided this season they're going to talk about it and make it their storyline. I think it's always been there.

People have... There have been concrete, solid information that these two have lived separate lives. Well, tell us some of that information. Well, yeah, for years, though, they've been saying they've been living separate lives, that they're on the brink of divorce. And we know that happens in Hollywood. That's sometimes a rumor that's always out there. They've said that about Kyle and Mauricio.

But Dorit's stories, her real stories, have never really been shared on Beverly Hills. And this is probably the first time that they've, and I thought this with Kyle and Mauricio, too. I felt like, oh no, this is the first time that they actually want to make it their storyline and they're going to run with it. And I saw her and watched what happens live this week

and I was like, oh yeah, they haven't told the kids according to her, which is not unusual. But I was like, I wouldn't be surprised if we see these two come back together again. And I'm actually kind of concerned because remember Roni before they did the reboot all of the housewives were single and now on Beverly Hills we have everyone being single Yeah, it is what it is, but these these characters are still like worth it and good I

I'm gonna say they are not going to get back together and I think that She can wrangle a better, younger, richer dude. And I think that she should, I think every woman in Dorit's situation should look to their leader, Lauren Sanchez, and realize that Lauren did it right. You do not look to the path of Teddy, who goes for the horse trainer that matches the look of her animal. You do not.

Who's married to a woman that right in your circle where your kid rides, no. That is not, if you're gonna step out, if you're going to venture for anything, and I think she has been totally faithful, but now that the band aid has ripped off, now that people know that whether you're working on it or something, if this has come out

and we knew Teddy and Edwin were separated and she had shared that on her podcast, whatever, still it would be bad. But now that it's like we're separated, now I think she can kind of put herself on the market a little bit. And she is gorgeous, she is stylish, and she was married to someone in and out of bankruptcy,

but still a guy who knows how to be rich. The house in Encino is now in pre-foreclosure, meaning they've missed four payments. And a house that is, you know, whatever, has is $7 million. Okay, so let's say the mortgage payment is 25,000 a month and give or take 10. So you are just, that is someone who is very,

in my opinion, sophisticated at playing the bankruptcy game. And knowing that he's getting divorced and everything, he's just not gonna pay. And he knows, as his choice, I'm saying, this is my opinion, hearing it. Maybe they'll pay tomorrow, but I'm saying, if you're in this position, it takes a very long time to then actually get the foreclosure

and actually make those people move out Yeah, so in the past when people have been in this position They're like whatever my you know, my credits already screwed whatever I'm just gonna stay here for as long as I can ask Kim Zolciak rent free. Yeah rent free basically until I have to leave and so That looks very bad because it's like we see you with your, you know, $25,000 outfits that are trendy and still probably not even, you know, they're not fake. They're not being borrowed. Everyone says no, she actually buys

them at the store. So while you're doing that and someone else is at home is like, I can't even buy a new dress for Christmas. I you know, I need to get my things to you know, not doing that. And then you and they're paying their mortgage and they're going to the bank and being like, what do I need to do? Could I could I do a different payment plan? What you know, front and they're just blowing it. I mean, according to what the news is, they're just blowing it off. I mean, she sort of kind of confirmed it in the first episode, the things that they haven't talked about on the show, the bankruptcies, the suspected DUI. There are things that they haven't talked about on the show

that she, in one instance, sort of confirmed it. And I was like, oh, okay, all right, this is a new Dorit. Yeah, and then he, last year or whatever, it was like he was gone the entire time in London. And it's weird, he has some show about real estate, but he's not a real estate guy, so it's just, it's like a selling sunset in London,

but he's, but it's just every listing is just of like, what, the Culture Club guy? Oh, Boy George. Boy George? Heather McDonald? Boy George. It took a culture club guy. Boy George, Heather McDonagh. Boy George. It took me a second to think of him. Icon. Boy George, yeah, has to show up in every scene.

You know, his one client. I don't know. But I'm, you know, and then also, what did you think of the smoking? People are freaking out that she was smoking. I don't understand why everyone is freaking out by that. Cause they haven't seen her do it before. I remember, so I'm not a smoker

and it seemed you know and and for a very long time you could not smoke like since I was like 23 they've like passed a law you can't smoke in LA restaurants so you really don't see people smoking then everybody got the vapes but I said and whoever is the juic juicy scooper that could find this, I predicted on this show, I don't know when, but I said, real cigarettes are gonna be making a comeback. That's gonna be like the ultimate, I can afford a real cigarette. You know?

Because I'm a super- And to reach the starter of this. Yes, because that's the ultimate sign of wealth now. Because if you think about it, I'm guessing cigarettes are a lot more expensive than a vape because you have the piece, right? So you're just filling the whatever it is. I don't know the price point for those things.

I don't know, but I'm telling you, that's going to be the flex. I can smoke and I don't care about the end of my life because I'm going to look fabulous and stay thin and just smoke. Good luck. I remember when Caitlyn Jenner came out as Caitlyn Jenner. And people were talking about, did you hear the news? Did you hear the news? And I remember thinking, did they find out that Caitlyn smokes?

Because when Caitlyn was Bruce, I remember I saw Bruce after painting Dash because I was like doing a real estate deal with Courtney and he was painting the whole place for them. And then he came out and he lit a cigarette. And I remember I was so shocked because he's this, you know, Olympian, the greatest Olympian of our time. And I was like, what?

And then sometimes you'd see it in the show, Chris Wood was that woman that had, that was her treat, a cigarette with a glass of wine or a martini, whatever. So I always was like, oh, there are these real elites that love cigarettes, you know? So I am not, so then I was like, did they find out that Bruce smoked cigarettes? They're like, no, Bruce is a woman.

I was like, oh, okay, I thought it was a cigarette thing. Wow, yeah, who cares about that? I'm like, this is more shocking that this Olympian enjoys a cigarette. So I think it's really funny that people are just sort of shocked by that. You're all memes with it now? I'm like, am I missing something?

So I'm not missing something. No, it is kind of. I think it's a bigger deal in California. It was just very, like a very outshamed thing for so long. It was always people to kind of doing it secretly or, you know, I don't want people to see that I'm smoking, but they just love the taste and the experience of a cigarette.

I think it's also symbolic of the season that Doreen's going to have. Yeah. She's just like, I don't give up, you know what? Right, yeah. I think that was sort of like the symbolism, like this is how I'm coming in this season. Guys, it's the holidays, so fun, but so expensive.

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We have a new cast member, Boz, who is highly successful in her own right. But as like CEO and executive, all these things from Netflix to different places, she is a widow and also she's retired. So it's kind of interesting that she just was like, I wanna know her story. Cause why she would be like, fuck it, I'm going to go on the show and like have fun.

And now I'm going to be in front of the camera and I'm going to live my second chapter in life. Like I've worked my ass off as like hardcore executive. And now I can just, it's kind of amazing. I love it. I definitely want to know more about her story. She was the chief marketing officer for Netflix, and then she had that same position at Uber. Like, she's had a very storied past, and then within two seconds,

a two-minute conversation with Dorit, we learned a lot about her, especially she was married for 10 years, and she had trouble with her husband, and her husband got sick, and that brought them back together. So I'm really interested to know more about her. But the fact that she was a chief marketing officer, I'm kind of like, okay, let me just see how she navigates

reality television, because with that type of career and experience, I would think that you're a little bit, probably a little bit more calculated on how your image is put out there to the world. So I'm sort of like, I got my eye on her. Well, first season, nobody's gonna fuck with her. And she is just gonna come looking like in her gorgeous outfits with her, you know,

perfect, unique hairstyles. I mean, she's fun to watch, because we have the party where everyone's wearing. The surreal party, the surrealism party. I still don't really get it. Can you, am I the dumb person that doesn't understand? No, a lot of the housewives didn't get it either. So it was like...

Why do they have the horns, the trees out of their head? You want me to explain this? Yeah, I kinda do want, like here it is, like... Well, clearly Dorit didn't get it because that is not the surrealism era or age. Kyle definitely got it. That's just, I, I, I, I don't know. Is it like fantasy, like horses and flowers?

What is it? It was an era. So it's sort of, it's sort of of that time. So that's what Sutton was giving. That was what Baz was giving. That was what, that was what... She was, Dorit was giving a little more Lady Gaga. It was a little too modern. Do you think, so then they cav it out with their friendship and the whole thing.

And there are a lot of rumors and things that people think why they're no longer friends. What do you think of the rumor that maybe Dorit and Mauricio might have had something going on? She was asked about that on Watch What Happens Live and she's like, her response was interesting because she denied it. She's like, oh, that was so ridiculous. But it was just weird. Either way, she responded to it. I was like, wait a minute. If it was totally not true. Yeah. There's been some things that have been said about me that are totally not true. Like what? Just an example.

I'd like to know. Like, oh, oh, that like I stole earrings worth $10,000. Oh, I forgot about that. That I stole earrings worth $10,000 and blew off the friendship of three years because I didn't want to pay back the earrings and I'm a felon. So yeah, when those things came, when anybody seems to think like, oh, but whatever, you still didn't return the one that was left. Once it was discovered the earrings were $42

and all this other stuff. I will tell the, I will be on my deathbed saying, never was I told they were real because they weren't real. And this was a smear campaign and like so fucked and so much betrayal. Like I will be saying it in passion. And it's always kind of the same feeling I get, why I think it's hard when someone is on trial

for a murder and they're saying they're innocent, but their attorney is like, "'We don't want you to take the stand.'" And then the jury's like, "'Well, they just sat there for three weeks with nothing on their face.'" And I'm like, so yeah, the fact that she's like, oh, please, you know, maybe if she feels if she was extra impassioned, I don't know.

I think if someone I've never cheated on my husband and if that if I was on a show and someone was like, but you did, you know, what was what about that? I'd be like, oh, my God, no, I don't know why. I kissed his shoulder at the time. I thought it was P.K.'s. I don't even know. I was in it days, I didn't have any sleep. Less than 12 hours ago, there was a gun to my head and I thought I was going to die.

So like, no, I'm not gonna explain myself, but no, I never have made out with Maurice Yu, I never touched him, I never gave him a hand job, like, leave me alone! That's what I would be like. But Doreen's not me. But that's you, exactly. Right, Doreen's not me, so she might've just been like,

please. But there are moments kept touched on camera, which of course they would throw us, because they know that that's what we wanna see. They're playing into it. That we're a little suspect, but still no proof. Yeah, there's no proof, and look, do I believe it? Not really, because I do believe that these couples,

as friends, hung out with each other, and Mauricio and PK are very close, which I'm not saying is impossible. We know all kinds of scandals that happen, but I don't know if I necessarily believe the story. I think it's fun for the audience to be like, I think it's true. It's very much like with the Diddy stuff. You believe it.

I can easily tell you, well, I have proof that Mauricio and Dorit had an affair. Yeah. And I also think the thing that's happening with these shows is that because so many of them really do treat it like a job and they like their coworker, but they're not hanging out with a coworker when they're not there. And then so they put them on the back burner until they have to film with them. Literally the first scene that we see with Erica and Dorit.

It's sort of like, oh my god, it's been so long. It's like, don't even pretend. Yeah, because yeah, we're not real friends. So we don't need to see each other. We don't need to hang out if we're not getting paid to. And that is very different from the early years of these shows. We really knew each other.

Right, and then I also think like, yeah, I just, that I think, oh, and also so many things in the franchise, which we'll get into is, you know, but you said this on an Amazon line, on Watch Your Hums Live, at BravoCon, on someone's podcast, in an article, and then that's what we're talking about when we get together after three months.

Which is also like we're not seeing stuff happen in the moment. Like, you know, we're having conversation at dinner and you know, I like it when housewives will be like, well, excuse me, like, you're just gonna let her talk to me like that, I thought you're supposed to be my best friend, like, what the hell? And then the best friend would go,

yeah, but you have done this in the past. So that's like a real moment that we wanna see. Not set up press moments. We have to remember, Kyle has been on this show now. 14 seasons. She's very pre-produced. I saw the trailer for Beverly Hills and I said, not another trailer with Kyle running through it crying.

I was like, I can't with Kyle. I was glad that it wasn't a lot of Kyle in the premiere episode. And Kyle reaching for like, oh, this is the reason I'm mad at you is because of what you did at BravoCon. And they play what she did at BravoCon. I was like, Kyle, you are reaching. Oh, right, which was the joke of like,

who's your favorite sister? And she just said, well, or who's your least favorite? And she's like, well, Kyle, haha. Yeah, because she doesn't wanna say Kathy and she doesn't wanna shit on Kim, who's like, you know, always like, you know, about to have a nervous breakdown. So like, yeah, so it was just a funny, stupid thing.

But yeah, I think, yeah, this is just, it'll be interesting to see. But it was a good premiere. It was a good premiere, I have to say, despite that. Now, do you think, now, when she speaks to Garcelle Kyle, and she's like, I can trust you. And I'm like, no, you can't. And then Garcelle's sitting there and she's like,

I don't even wanna say her name, meaning Morgan Wade, because she doesn't want now to be discussed. Oh, now that you've become famous, you knew what you were doing when you agreed to be on the show. You didn't just fall off, you know, the turnip truck, you know, the show. You didn't just fall off, you know, the turnip truck, you know, the coconut.

You didn't just, you knew what you were doing, and then she's like, yeah, but then you did a video and making fun of that, of you guys being a lesbian couple. And still, we don't know, but this has been hard, and I have to think about it. I'm like, oh, so stop milking it out. So what is your opinion? Cause I've shared my opinion.

I love the fact that Garcelle held her accountable in that moment because she spoke for the audience because you're literally saying, now you don't want to mention Morgan's name. So I'm going to mention it so much this season. Morgan, Morgan, Morgan, Morgan. She's a public figure. She's been on the show.

She was in 20 scenes. She benefited from the show. Benefited from the, yeah. And you did a whole music video alluding to a lesbianic relationship. Yeah. So now you don't wanna mention her name? Now you don't want to mention, now, has she come out? No, but I think Morgan, I think Morgan,

whatever, this is what I think, in case you didn't know. I think that, yes, there was something romantic and stuff in the beginning. She got turned out, but. Yeah, now they're just friends. But Morgan still really cares for her, but Morgan is also like, I'm a real musician and I don't wanna be wrapped up in this brawl.

Have you heard her? No, I'm sorry. I'm gonna make you love Mike. I'm just guessing what Morgan is thinking. I'm a real musician. I wanna make it in this real world. I don't wanna be known as the housewife, lesbian side piece musician.

I wanna be known as like, hey, you know, a real one. And so don't like, we can still hang out Kyle, but I'm not gonna show up on the show. And like, I'd really appreciate if you don't talk about me. And maybe they still like hook up, but I don't think they're like a real couple. You think they hook up? I think we talked about this the last time I was here.

I don't know. I don't know if they do or they don't, but I'm like so sick of hearing about it. And maybe she doesn't know. Maybe she just, I mean, she's probably being honest where she's probably like, yeah, I really enjoyed her, but I don't know if it's just her or if I'm really gay, which is totally understandable. But it's just her or if I'm really gay, which is totally understandable.

But it's just to the people at home, we feel like, you know, get to the point. Answer the question. What is the point? What is the point? I'm interested to figure out, I think she's having her L word moment. Yeah.

Okay, so she's having her moment where she's figuring out she may have gotten turned out by Morgan, but I think she will eventually go back to men. So I don't think it's the first time she was with a girl. Oh no, I mean she grew up here in Hollywood. I think that she and Mauricio, you know, had fun. And I think maybe even had like a third or whatever. Oh.

And then she was real open and that's why she was real, maybe okay with his, you know, whatever, stepping out here and there. He was fine, because otherwise he was such a great husband and they got along that she was fine with it. And then when she got sober and everything else, she just was like, oh my God, what have I been,

like once the alcohol was gone from her life, I think that she had like real clarity about what is a turn off to her, what she doesn't want anymore, and then I'm gonna explore this thing, and it was really fun and I really liked it. Yeah, well the difference here though is that she had a relationship with Morgan. A one night stand with someone is different.

So her actually having emotional feelings for another woman, that would be interesting. And I think she was also on a rebound because of the Mauricio stuff. I have a prediction she's gonna have a guy next season. Of course. It's gonna be a guy. Of course, and that's probably why Morgan's like,

I don't wanna be on the show, I don't wanna be with you, we could be friends. Morgan, lesbians, you can account for this. The... they had this moment where they've been with a heterosexual woman and they break their heart. So Morgan probably was like, I don't want to be in that position anymore.

Or maybe I've been in that position and I don't want that anymore. But I think this is just her story. And also I think Morgan wants to like break away from this. From the Bravo universe probably. Like all of a sudden Morgan's doing shows, she looks out at just a sea of my audience. Like, she's like, where's my country lesbians at?

This is not what I'm like, need to sell, but just my girl like, Morgan! Like wearing BravoCon shirts with her Hermé bag. She's like, no, this isn't my vibe. I don't blame her. Yeah. Especially if you're a musician and you want it to be taken seriously as a musician.

And maybe with someone's, I've speculated that it was some publicist's idea, you guys should come together. This would be great for your career, Morgan. So. I feel like as a comedian, who then, you who then built my podcast on talking about Juicy Stuff and Housewives

being a big part of it, I feel like I don't have the respect of comedians. Really? Yes, I feel like they see me as, oh that's the girl that only talks about Housewives. Oh, she's just like a Bravo person or whatever. When I'm like, I was a standup first, I am a standup. If you see my standup, it's not about Housewives.

It's legit. I knew you before, Jesus Goode. Yeah, it's a legit standup life. In just creating my podcast, I just was like, oh, I like imitating these girls that I'm interested in. And it was, you know, I love it. I'm not gonna not do it because it does really interest me.

But yeah, I feel like, so I kind of can relate to why Morgan's like, or even when like Matt Rife, who's a comedian, was like, he was so good looking. And he basically said, like, you know, I know I have a big female audience, but I also have a lot of guys who think I'm funny or whatever he said. And then they wrote articles of like, you're shitting on your female audience. It wasn't that it's just like, I don't know. It's like, it's- We all have that feeling of like,

we want to be known as something, but everyone knows us for something different. Right, yeah. Some people know me for Diddy stories, some people know me, oh, that's the Housewives guy. Right. At the end of the day, it's what we say to ourselves. We can't care about, yes, our peers,

do we want them to respect us? Yes, but at the end of the day, they're not paying your bills. Right. Okay. Or even sometimes when I ask someone to come on the show and they're like, but I don't follow Housewives. And I'm like, no, that's not what the show's gonna be. I wanted to get your whole life story.

Like, we're gonna talk about this, this and this. So sometimes now, if I write something I have to say, the show is not just about Housewives, it's also not just standup. Like, I find this, or just comedy, like, I find you interesting. And then other times I'm like, oh, who cares? No, come on, I don't really.

But I'm glad you mentioned that, because I think there are a lot of people that will watch this and relate to it, especially other people that do what we do, and feel, oh yeah, I feel the same way, Heather. I don't want to be known as one particular thing. At the end of the day, it only matters what you say about yourself.

Who cares about the rest of the world? So, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Oof. I'm super fascinated by the Bronwyn situation. That's an ugly outfit. And horrible eye makeup. I will never, I mean, that is a clown outfit. And that's a hard 39.

I will never understand why people do that one draw line. Like that trend, that Julia Fox trend is an awful trend. Is she still around? Not really. Good. But that took a minute. She took that two days with Kanye, and she ran with it. I was so tired.

Yeah. And then came back again. I was used, da da da da. But we never slept together. We never did that. I'm like, oh God, it's fine. But Bronwyn is, there's some cool things about her, but the thing that fascinates me is her marriage

to this guy, Todd. Todd Father. And it's very reminiscent of Erika Jayne and Tom Girardi when she was like, remember there's a scene he's talking to Lisa Vanderpump and Lisa Vanderpump's very interested in hearing what he has to say and he says something and then she just sort of like adds to it.

But to certain men, it's like they see that as like you're interrupting and he's like, Erika! And you know, it's like they see that as like you're interrupting and he's like, Erica. And, you know, it's like, oh, that kind of thing. And so it feels like so daughter daddy, like so daughter daddy, where it's like the tension that she feels. I mean, I know when they met this couple, when they saw the dynamic, those producers were like peeing in their pants with excitement. And I really think what happened was she, you know, wanted to do it. the dynamic, those producers were like peeing in their pants with excitement.

And I really think what happened was she, you know, wanted to do it. He wants to give her what she wants, whether it's a $4 million necklace, which I'm really curious, did she really keep that $4 million necklace or, you know, anything like that. And or this, I want to be on this Housewives show. And she probably convinced him, this will be great. He probably didn't do all the research he should have done. He should have spent a weekend watching all of them.

You didn't do any research, Heather. No, he was probably like, okay. And then he's like, just as long as you don't fight like that, I don't want that. And then when she has this scene where she then has to fight because that's a show and you see her and he's like, like, in all our years together, you've never behaved like that. And to be honest, yeah. And to be honest, it's just very unbecoming,

which is just such a humiliating word. That was very unbecoming of you as a lady. You just look like trash. And then she's like, Todd, I just, well, this is the way these women speak, and I have to match that. She's basically saying, if I don't bring it and act like a screaming asshole,

then what was the point of me being on the show anyway? He didn't know that. Yeah, and I'm like, well, the whole point is you wanna be famous, which is fine. You're like, let's see what will happen with this. But also in every housewives back of their mind, it's like, well's see what will happen with this. But also in every housewife's back of their mind, it's like, well, if it doesn't work out, I can do something other than work at Nordstrom.

I can have a glamorous life. I can be elevated. I can be part of this elite group of people, you know, and you know. Well, we need to let Brahman know that that's not true. What's not true? She doesn't have to work at Nordstrom's, but if you think you're going to spin this into a money-making career...

That ship has sailed. Yes, yes. The ship has sailed in this franchise. It's not going to happen. That's why I honestly believe the Todd father is not going to allow her to come back next season. Yeah, it's either that or she or it'll come to head and they will break up because she'll say, no, I'm not giving this up.

Remember that my favorite, one of my favorite scenes is in the made for TV movie about Sarah Palin when she was running for vice president and Julianne Moore played her and she goes out and she gets all the love from the, you know, and then she's like comes back and she goes, we gotta win this thing. There's no way I'm going back to Alaska.

And it was just like, it was so like, I feel like the minute they get a little taste of this, even though some of it's hard, even though it's hard, they're seeing mean things and they're cast, it's a taste of like, where they're like, well, I'm not giving this up just so I can shop and cater to Todd. I've already done that for 18 years.

No, 10. Oh, they only made together 10? Okay, 10. But oh my God, in the moment also, when she talks about her daughter meeting the grandparents, and he again doesn't want that being talked about because he is like, I've paid for your daughter Not these grandparents that she hasn't seen and so then he was like that's enough. We're done

And then she's just like oh and then she's always like oh hey cutie It's very crotchety very old And he's just like, yeah, we agreed this wasn't gonna be what it was gonna be. Well, she can't control that. No, I think he went on that trip thinking that it was going to be one of their regular trips, not realizing that they were producing reality television.

Right. And Lisa knows what she's supposed to do. They're all, especially on Salt Lake City, are caricatures of themselves. Right. So Lisa knows that this's supposed to do. They're all, especially on Salt Lake City, are caricatures of themselves. So Lisa knows that this is what we do. But when Lisa was told, we're gonna send you home by the Todd father. You notice how Lisa was completely different.

She was like, hey, Bronwyn. I have a love for Bronwyn. And I also think that, especially on Salt Lake, because I talked to a waiter who was at one of these table scenes last year. So, and you know, they do redo stuff. They do have them come in allegedly and be like, you need to re-ask that question.

It's more than other shows. And so I feel like when they're at that table, bringing up, you said this on a podcast, that's our beef. Well, you said this on this podcast, that's our beef. That's our beef, that's our beef. Those are the scenes that are filmed. And then it's almost like, we did our work. Now we can have some drinks and play pool

and jump in the jacuzzi. And so then you see them kind of having fun because they're like, oh, we clocked out. Like even though the camera's still on us, essentially we've clocked out. Those are the real moments. Yeah, and I think the audience is just starting to see like, really, this is, you know, this is it.

But I find Salt Lake very entertaining. Like at least I'm entertained by them. I'm entertained by OC and I'm entertained by Beverly Hills. So this is like a golden time for me to like enjoy what's on TV right now. Yeah, OC is bringing it. This was like their best season. I'm not a huge OC fan,

but I've been watching it for the last three seasons and I was like, this season was so good from begin... And it's not because I'm in it. Beginning from the first episode to the reunion. You hear my voice. Oh, what do you say? What did I say? Something about Shannon with Doris DUI.

Oh, driving into a house. I thought that was you. Cause I was like, who is that? How do I know that voice? Okay, yeah. So it's not because of that. It's because it's really been a good season. I'm loving Jennifer.

I like Katie and I like that Katie and Jennifer have a good relationship. But what I don't like is that we've seen a pattern of lies with Katie, and I'm just like, oh, Katie, I'm rooting for you, but there's something there with Katie that... I think with Katie, this new girl, I think there's something very dark

that happened in her previous marriage that for, she didn't share it with the producers and she didn't want to share it. Maybe it's a legal reason or whatever. And I think if she comes back she will be a little more forthcoming with it. And she should because that is what will make the audience now like trust her and like her. But again, she has minor kids with this ex and if she doesn't wanna share it ever, then she also doesn't have to. But then she also has to risk people being like,

well, why was this untrue and this untrue? And it's like, well, maybe I was covering up something you know, that I mean, yeah, I think they should all come back. It was a good season, a good season, good cast. Tamra, oh God. She's very quiet during this reunion. She's very quiet. She I just thought clip because she was at I just hosted the American reality

TV Awards and I see was there and she presented and she was on the red carpet and she said this before that in filming it you know she wasn't worried she she thought she wasn't worried that the audience wouldn't be on her side at all. And now in watching it back, like she somewhat can understand it. But yeah, the way it is, you know, it can be, we saw what we saw. So edited or not, we saw it. And I think the audience just really felt like, we know she had a bad night.

We know Shana Madure had a bad night. It was the worst night of her life. She got a DUI, got in an accident. So if there is anything of her behaving poorly right before that, the supposed video, we believe you. We don't need to see it. We believe it was bad. We've seen her on the show waving her hands around and everything.

So, like, of course, on her worst night, when she's, like, somewhat broken up with her boyfriend and wasted, of course she's gonna go to his house and probably make a scene and be making ass of herself. Like, and I think with him, he was kind of saying... Johnny J? Johnny J, I think he was...

I think this is where it got screwed up, is that I think he was like, oh my God, you know? All these things... I have this awful reputation. She has said these things, not on camera, but to the other cast members who then relayed on camera. He doesn't pay for things. He says mean things to her or whatever. I believe it all. And his side is he doesn't believe, he says no, right? So then when this whole thing goes down and another part comes out where it's like, oh, I think that he heard my accident, didn't even bother to come down,

which was then set on a podcast, I think then he was like, oh my God, I have videotapes of her acting horribly. I don't think he ever was like, I'm going to show them to people. I think he ever was like, I'm going to show them to people. I think he was just like, I have them. And then Alexis then says it on camera, like I'm sick of all everyone thinking we're awful.

Like we have it. And I think it was almost like, we have the videotapes. He has videotapes that he won't share. Like he's not gonna share them, but he has them. But the way it got to the audience, it felt like a blackmail thing. But I think it was- Yeah, it felt like extortion. I think almost like he's not gonna share them, but he has them. But the way it got to the audience, it felt like a blackmail thing. But I think it was, I think almost like he, he put it out there or she put it out there

to like pat them on the back to say, but we're not sharing them, aren't we great? That we're not sharing them. Well, they recently settled their lawsuit finally. So I'm assuming he probably signed that NDA that she wanted. So now she, Shannon said, I will not film with Alexis no matter what. I don't think Alexis is coming back.

And I think, and it feels like Emily is really fighting for her not to come back. If you see the preview of tonight's thing and really going hardcore. She's like, you know what? You know what, Jen? This thing over here, every trash can has a lid, and you need to know as an attorney that you need to pay your bills.

And why is it that it's okay that you be friends with her? And then Jen's like, well, then why are you friends with Tam? Or like, Tam was awful too. And it's like, well, then why are you friends with Tamera? Like, Tamera's awful too. And it's like, I'm just saying, it's not mean girl behavior. Even Shayne knows I'm not a mean girl. And can I have a special martini? Like, it's just like, she's just like, oh.

She's doing a lot to throw me in. She's like screaming through the whole thing. And I'm like, I think that, I think that they would like Alexis and John to come back. And I think the only way they'll come back is if they stronghold Shannon and say, you're really gonna give up this million dollars or whatever we're offering you.

But then I also hear a lot of their salaries may go down regardless of their performance, just because the whole, you know. The ratings are down. Yeah, but I think for them maybe not, but you know. But Shannon is the star of the show and she's not just because of her tragic life. But she is, she has all the things.

She has a tragic life. She has an ex-husband and an ex-boyfriend. She has, she's funny. And she shows up. She's pretty. She shows up, she's authentic. And you know, and when she... I mean, she'll show up and then she'll walk away.

And she's vulnerable. Yeah, and she's vulnerable. So it's like, so whatever happens with her, you know, even if she had a super happy season next season, and it's still gonna be entertaining to see her be like, Tamara, Tamara was my friend. And clearly this is not a friend. And at certain points, I need to have boundaries and we'll still love it. So like, the only thing is,

can they make her think that she wouldn't be asked back if she doesn't play nice? That's the thing. I think it's gonna be really interesting. But I think as an audience, I wanna see them all come back. I mean, I'm open to all. I think Alexis, I know the way that she is perceived

on the show, no one likes her, rightfully so, because she became his mouthpiece, Johnny Jay's mouthpiece. But when she wasn't talking about Shannon, when they went to Big Bear and they were having that little girls trip, I was like, Alexis is actually kooky and funny. It's an easy target to make fun of too.

And also the other girls have said, in times where they're not filming and Katie lost her father-in-law or whatever, Alexis is like that friend that actually does call, sends something to your house, is like, can I come over with the casserole? She actually is that person. So it's like, I think it would be interesting to see it.

And I think they would have brought, they would have even maybe brought her back had she not been dating Johnny. She says that they were talking to her. Oh, you know what Jen said recently, the new girl Jen? She said when she was with her husband that they went through the process. And she never shared we're having problems

because they appeared not to to the outside world. And then Tooniea picked, they said basically you're too boring. She's like, outside world. And then, Toonie had picked, they said basically you're too boring. She's like, okay. The husband was down because he's like, oh, maybe this stupid yoga thing could like make some money if you're on TV to do it. So I don't wanna say stupid, but you know,

a yoga studio is not a big money maker unless it has some type of notoriety, like, you know, Billy Blakes or whatever, like workout. So then anyway, so then she said, then out of the blue, the casting director called her and right when Tamara was coming back. And one thing Tamara is, is she is a producer's darling. She gets an A plus in the class, she is a star pupil.

She will deliver the moments and she, I'm sure in my opinion, called the producers and was like, I know this girl, you guys interviewed her a couple years ago. Oh God, Tamara, she was so boring. No, listen, she's getting a divorce, she's dating this guy who has kind of a questionable reputation around town and he's attractive too

and he's a thirst bucket he'll want to be on TV I'm telling you this is like golden so then she gets a call out of the blue and she was like wait you guys are interested in me again well I don't think you will be now like she's so innocent because my life's gone to shit getting divorced he's dating my ex-best friend I'm dating this guy from the gym and the girl goes to her, oh well, okay, well, you know, hope you're doing okay. And she goes, not less than 20 minutes later,

they're like, yeah, we're interested. And then Tamar goes, listen, they're interested, but what's gonna really help seal the deal is I told them that the four of us are like best friends, and we go out to dinner all the time, and Eddie and Ryan like whatever, work out and mend stuff together. And like this could be great.

So then she gets on the show and that's why the first season she was like so confused. Because she thought this was her good friend who then would act one way when the cameras weren't there and then when they were together, she's like chucking a napkin in her face out of nowhere. And she was like, she's like, am I in the Twilight Zone? Oh no, I'm just on a Bravo reality TV show.

And you're dealing with Tamer Judge. Right, yeah. So. But we ended up falling in love with Jennifer. Oh yeah. I'll speak for myself. I like her. I like her.

She's so likable, she's so herself, which I appreciate. They came to my show in Irvine with Alexis and John and Katie. And I will say Alexis was really nice. She posted about the show. She came right backstage. She was not taking photos with everybody because I said, if you want to say hi to me after, I need you to do it right after the show because I have a

next show and I go but I know it's gonna be hard because the audience is gonna want to talk to you and take photos with you and in the past when I've invited housewives that's been the case and I don't blame them but whatever they love the attention how can you not oh yeah she was like no I'm right at the door where's your son we want wanna say hi to you. So I have to say there is... Maybe she had come in without the Johnny J portion. That's what I'm saying.

Like if this was just like a girl who lived in the neighborhood and ended up dating an ex, like, you know, they never were on the show together. So if she just started dating somebody that dated someone she knew in the neighborhood, like some people some people like okay That's weird But like you know I have friends that are like in you know, South Carolina or North Carolina

And they're like, you know, it looks like a reality show. They're all attractive. They're all on their second husband They're all dating each other's people. Oh Because they're all like in the neighborhood and they're all like of the same socioeconomic level and they are we producing this reality show Like wait a minute. Yeah, like I'm invested that Lake Norman area Oh lives of Lake Norman But yeah, like I'm saying if it wasn't a show wouldn't be that but then with all this but it made for so In the season. Yeah.

It distracted from- She should really give them a gift basket. Oh, she did, $70,000. Yes, yes. Because it really made her situation, you know, she could literally be dealing with the Karen Huger situation right now, where people are- Oh, and let's talk about that. Yes. Karen Huger, her second DUI.

I can't deal with Karen Huger, her second DUI. I can't deal with Karen Huger. This is Potomac, and she is a six-year-old woman. She also got a DUI in an accident, not with anybody else. Thankfully, a tree and possibly deer. Just like Shannon, nobody else. She didn't even have a dog in the car. And she talks about it with her cousin, who she was on the phone with, who I guess she was on the phone again,

while you're buzzed and talking on the phone, and then hit the car or hit the tree. She's never admitted to being buzzed, Heather. Oh, sorry. And then she said, oh, it's because I was mourning the death of my mother, who died in 2018, or whatever it was. Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah.

No, she's coming up with every excuse. That's what I'm saying. It's her parents, her mom died, her father No, she's coming up with every excuse. That's what I'm saying. It's her parents, her mom died, her father died, and then her issues with Ray. Okay, but still, like. She's been under a lot of pressure, Heather. Okay, I'm sorry as someone who has lost my parents. Sorry.

If you're of a certain age. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. I mean, it's going to happen, and I'm sorry that it didn't work out the way you thought, you know, but like you're 60 years old. Are we, are you supposed to still have your like mom around? I mean, it's pretty rare if you do. And losing an parenting parent is hard, but I think you cannot.

Now, if the parent had died, you know, one week prior to the DUI and like, and she was just like, I was coming back from back home from the hospital and I, you know, one week prior to the DUI, and she was just like, I was coming back home from the hospital, and I was just like, you know, in a distraught space, and I hadn't really even dealt with anything, we just got done planning the funeral, and I fucking just like, then everyone would be like, yes, you know, still horrible.

But to then pull, to try to pull the sympathy card like. But here's the thing. I can understand being distracted because of going through distress, but were you drinking, Karen? Yeah. Were you drinking? Were you under the influence of alcohol? I don't know. I guess we'll know, you know. I mean, according to the reports, it was, there was a beer in the car. She was, The reports, there was a beer in the car. She was not able to walk straight. Beer was her mother's favorite. Oh, come on. Was her mother's favorite?

And so you don't understand, it was my mother's favorite. And I was looking at that beer thinking, if only my mother was here, then Ray would give me more attention. I don't know, it's just like she is. But this is this show, you guys, Potomac is so messy with this girl Mia, who has this older husband named Gordon and he...

And she has a boyfriend, don't forget about the boyfriend. She has this boyfriend named Ink, who she dated before meeting Gordon, then met Gordon, got married to Gordon, and it gets out on last night that she then had an affair with ink while they're Married got pregnant Terminated the pregnancy and then she didn't know about it apparently he just found out Yeah in this moment in the kitchen and then got with him again because she believes that one of her two children

No, she believes that one of her two children, no, she believes that, so the daughter, I guess, she believes is Gordon's, but the son, who's older than the daughter, she doesn't know if it's Gordon or Inks. She says, because I think she did an IUI, so she says she believes that that's the truth. But Gordon's the one who did an interview and put it out there that possibly.

What's the truth? Who's the dad of the boy? but Gordon's the one who did an interview and put it out there that possibly. What's the truth? Who's the dad of the boy? That Gordon is the father. But because Gordon put it out there, she wants to do a paternity test. Oh. But she believes, Mia believes that no, that is definitely Gordon's son.

Well, if we see then she does it, and we see it on the show and it hasn't been leaked by a blogger, because I don't know that we know on the show and it hasn't been leaked by a blogger because I don't know that we know who the dad is. Then her claim that Gordon has bipolar mental disorder and that's, and he was a nightmare to be married to. Then I think we'll have a little more sympathy for her. She comes off though,

like she's never really like out of control though. Like she's pretty good on camera like as far as expressing herself, saying her snarky things. Lying. Yeah. Lying and lying. We call her Mia be lying. That's what we call her. So you think she's lying a lot?

She's lying a lot. Giselle did an interview. She was doing a press junket while she was in New York. Says that, you know, Mia has a lot to answer for at the reunion because she has lied a lot during the season. Ashley, this week alone, says that Mia has a lot to answer for at the reunion because some of the things that play out during the season, she, her character is questionable.

The fact that these OGs are saying this about Mia, we already know Mia lies a lot. If you're a fan of the show, we know she lies. One thing you can rely on her being consistent about is lying. So the fact that these folks are seemingly turning on her before the reunion, I believe they're filming the reunion this week, that's kind of interesting that they're turning on her.

I'm wondering what plays out during the rest of the season. I'm already cringing at the fact that she has her boyfriend and her husband on the same show and the paternities being questioned. The kids are in the other room. They can clearly hear what's happening. So that already makes me go, ugh. Yeah, yeah.

So I wonder what happens during the season that makes the majority of the housewives turn on her, basically basically? Okay before we go Can you just explain to the audience to remind them? What happened on real housewives of Atlanta with Kenya because she just did? Tamron Hall's show yes, and Just give the cliff note version of what happened to remind everybody because it was pretty crazy So this was at the top of their new season sweet 16. So we have not seen it yet. We have not seen it yet

I'm hearing the top of 2025 is when we'll get Atlanta. Okay right now we have five shows on at the same time It's a lot. Yeah, but it's a lot but Kenya was accused at the time of putting up poster boards of at the time of putting up poster boards of Brittany Eadie, the newbie. And one of those poster boards had Brittany with something in her mouth of the male persuasion private area. And Kenya denied that she was involved in revenge porn. And she says, Bravo never investigated me for that. An organization is not going to investigate you for revenge porn, okay? They're going to investigate if you've violated

their code of conduct. And according to, I think it was the exclusive from lovebscott.com that they got the information. That wasn't what she was let go for. She said that she wasn't fired. She was, they decided to mutually part ways. Mid-season. At the top of the season.

Rather filming, oh. And when I was doing my live show in Atlanta, people were spilling tea that were there. They confirmed that yes, this is exactly what Kenya did at her own spa event. Now Kenya has confirmed that this is what she did. So she's doing a thing, like here's my hair, and here's, oh, where did this come from?

Post-a-board. She went to a kinko's. So it wasn't even like on a slideshow? No it was a poster board. Oh okay. That's a lot of effort. That's a lot and she said and it's funny because when she was on Tamron Hall it's almost like she took a little accountability and then she sort of was like I had a lot more that I could have shared and giggled. And I was like, wait a minute, what is happening right now? And then she basically said, her excuse was, what you don't realize is I felt I was being attacked

by this woman and I didn't feel safe. So no, it's not okay that I did this, but I did it because I'm a mother. And since I've become a mother, I was feeling extra vulnerable, and that's why I lashed out with this thing. And it's like, you're gonna pull the mother card. Like, you gave birth at, like, 50 years old.

You're 53. The girl is three or four. Like, again, you know, just like Karen, we're not gonna feel sorry for you that your mom died five years ago when you were 60. And I'm not going to feel sorry for you. Like the. She also used her mom card to get in regards to her mother basically disowned her when she was a baby. She was raised by her grandmother. Oh, she brought that up. She brought that up on Tamron Hall as well.

I just wish she would have just owned it. She really ruined this opportunity because she was given the opportunity to come back according to my sources. And then she did the fake crying. I'm like, my child, your child was not in jeopardy. Your child was at preschool. Your child had nothing to do with your child. And you know what?

There's a lot of single mothers out there and you're on a show and you have so much privilege and you've been on the show for so long and you're gorgeous and everything else. And they didn't want to bring her back, allegedly. They didn't want to bring her back this last season. And then she did this and fucked it up. Yeah. She ruined that relationship. But I feel like, they, they, but you know what?

Bravo forgives people all the time. Phage will come back. She will come back too if the show continues. And I think that's what she was doing this week in regards to sort of like, I talk to Andy Cohen all the time, you know? That's my family. I think there were rumors that she was going to sue them

because of, you know, the suspension. But I think she's backtracking on that because she realizes- When people say that Andy's their family, if Andy was to invite four housewives to his Thanksgiving dinner with his two kids and his parents, in your opinion, he had to.

He had to, otherwise he would lose $10 million. He has to invite four housewives past or present. Who do you think he would choose? Oh my gosh. I'll say mine first. Oh, go ahead, go ahead, yes. I think he would pick Erika Jayne, just because he's like,

her plus one would be a hot piece of ass. She would clearly have like some hot gay dancer, okay? Let me think, not Kyle, because he's sick of her crying. He also wants to have some fun. He, Tamara, so because he just will get like again, like some snark and let me think. And then, who's like a classic?

Who is a classic that he would also want there? I feel like he doesn't like that many of them. Hold on. He really likes them. The London girl, the Dubai girl. Oh, Caroline Stanberry. Yeah, he'd want her. And then he's going to also...

You asked me this question. This is hard, I just thought of it in the moment. Which is perfect, thanksgiving is next week. Let me give you another one. Giselle. No one on this cast. Oh, I think Giselle. No? I think he would invite Robin over Giselle.

Giselle's very sensitive. He said this during BravoCon that he had a joke. Okay, so you think, who are your four now? Okay, my four would be NeNe, no matter what they've gone through. Oh, you're right. No matter what they've gone through. Because he knows it's a good time.

He knows it's a good time. Okay, I'm gonna play it by Giselle with NeNe. So now mine are NeNe, Erica Jane, Tamra, and what was my other one that I said? What was the other one? Oh, M.G. Tamra. Bronwyn.

No, he's actually gonna invite Bronwyn because he wants some real wealth. He wants some real wealth, but he doesn't want her to bring Todd. So it's Bronwyn, Erica Jane, Tamra, and NeNe. Who do you think yours are? NeNe Leakes, definitely. Candy because they actually, I could tell that they actually have good banter together.

Teresa Giudice because she's going to bring some good food. Good point. Okay, so NeNe, Candy, even though that that's gonna be a little bit of a fight. Nene Candy, Teresa. Yeah. I'm trying to think of all the... New York. Anyone from New New York? No, from New New York? No, none of them. He's trying to act like he likes somebody who doesn't. He's probably changed his number so that they can't contact him. He's not inviting anyone. He'd probably invite Luanne.

Kathy Hilton. Oh, he would want to invite Kathy just because... She's so entertaining. If she says yes... And she'd give some scoop, yeah. And she'll bring the little girl Lucy some fabulous gift. Yeah. Yeah, she'll come with really good gifts.

I could definitely see that, but then Kyle would be very upset with her. Okay, now'll come with like really good gifts. I could definitely see that, but then Kyle would be very upset with her. Okay, now I'm going back with my four. Oh! Kathy Hilton. Okay. Erica Jane. I am gonna go with the Teresa and the food.

Oh, copycat over here. And then NeNe, I think you're right, but no candy. Those are the four. That would make his Thanksgiving fun. I think Andy would agree with me. He would definitely invite candy. I think Andy would agree with me. He would definitely invite Candy. I think despite everything that he's gone through with Nene, he would invite Nene.

Definitely Teresa, because Teresa's going to bring some good food. Okay. I feel like, let me just think, we have Salt Lake City, no one on Salt Lake. Mary Cosby maybe. He might invite Mary Cosby just for entertainment. Just for the weirdness. Yes, just for the entertainment. I think he does like Mary Cosby, maybe. He might invite Mary Cosby just for entertainment. Just for the weirdness.

Yes, just for the entertainment. I think he does like Mary Cosby in a weird way. Yeah. Or Chanel Ayaan. She would be a good time. Yeah. That's it from Dubai. Oh, I had said that Girlfriend Dubai, that's why.

Oh. Carol. Campire, you're such a delight. Tell everybody where they can, so wait, the show is tonight, Wednesday, or Thursday? Wednesday, Wednesday. Tonight. So you'll have missed the show. Yeah. So what other thing besides,

tell them where they can follow you and do you have any other shows coming up? Yes, I'm going to London. I'm taking the Kempire After Dark live show to London. Great. And that's December 8th, and then I'll be in Washington DC January 24th. And then of course back to my hometown New York City we have a show in February. The

date hasn't been announced yet. But of course everyone can follow me at the Kempire on all socials and of course on YouTube Kempire. Thank you. Thank you. And then everybody go to HeatherMittal.net. That's where you get the juicy scoop with the patreon and I do have dates in February I too will be in New York February 14 DC the 15th and New York, New Jersey on the 16th of February. So check me out there and thank you so much