Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - P Diddy’s Hollywood Secrets with Chris Franjola

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

Chris Franjola and I get into all we know about Sean Puffy P Diddy Love Combs. We cover the past 30 years of violence, sex trafficking, abuse, manipulation, blackmailing and what goes into planning a... freak off party. Wendy Williams got screwed over again. Another Heather prediction has come true. More clues emerge about Dave Grohl’s baby mama and his wife’s tennis coach. How do you end a standing ovation? And don’t leave kids alone while on vacation. So juicy, so funny! Enjoy!  Go to https://TheOuai.com and use promo code JUICY for 15% off any product. Go to https://Hungryroot.com/JUICYSCOOP, to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. Go to https://Ro.Co/JUICYSCOOP. Memberships start at just $99 for your first month. Medication costs are separate. Go to https://Ro.Co/safety for black box warning and full safety information. Compounded medication is not required to and does not receive FDA review or approval. Rx only. Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:35 so they know we sent you. Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales, her real life mistress, naked serial data, and serial system. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up, woo woo, Hannah McDonald, Juicy Scoop.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have the original, the favorite, former model turned comedian, father, funny man, leather jacket wearing, Chris Frangiola. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop. Thank you. I love you. Thank you. I like wearing this leather jacket on here,
Starting point is 00:02:26 but some people have told me I dress like the guy who does over women's noses on E. What's his name? Terry. Yeah. Or Terry. He's more of a boob man, but sure. Yeah, people, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:37 People say... I don't think so. Okay, good. Thank you. I was saying your glasses look like the lead in The Perfect Couple on Netflix, which I've talked about. Liv Schreiber. I always say his name. Yeah which I've talked about, Liv Schreiber.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I always say his name. Yeah, Schreiber. Schreiber, yeah. Anyway, he has a similar look to you. You guys are similar age. Oh. He has these clear glasses. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And a little scruff, a little gray scruff. Yeah, that's right. And so, yeah, you look like a rich Nantucket guy who was having an affair. I'm trying to toughen it up a little bit because I go clean shaven now and I'm starting to look, you know, at the age where I could easily slip into old lesbian, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:12 So now you wanna have facial hair, not to be mistaken. Exactly. Got it. Yeah, yeah, so that's kinda what I'm going for, whether it's six or nine. I'll tell you something else about white whiskers that are freaking me out. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And only a small portion of my audience will understand. About 12 years ago, Caroline Manzo, a Real Housewives of New Jersey, said on a reunion, I have such good skin because I shaved my face. Shook the world. I remember this. And then one time Kelly Dodd said to Shannon Madore on a trip from an Ireland bus, shave your fucking face. And everyone's like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And women have peach fuzz, okay? And everybody always thought if you ever shaved your face, it would grow back like a Wolverine. Yeah, that was always the urban legend. And then all of a sudden there became these tools that you know you can shave your face and like it just takes all the dead skin off. It's super satisfying.
Starting point is 00:04:04 There's no peach fuzz in a photo or anything. Now on the row always they said had dead skin off. It's super satisfying. There's no peach fuzz in a photo. Now on the row always they said had a hairy face. Oh really? Yeah. It's blonde. You know, sometimes I see it. And then once you start doing it, so I started doing it and I can't even believe what I've missed out on the joy. Okay. And I make my, I say to my sister, come over to my house in La Quinta, the sun's just right. I'm ready to do it. And there is this product that's come out, okay?
Starting point is 00:04:31 That is like, it's called a hair identifier and it's all over TikTok, all over TikTok. And you spray it on your face and you look like Papa Smurf. You look like that. It's blue? No, it's white. So it shows up where all the little tiny hairs around your face are as a woman.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And then you take this tiny comb and you go and just hair and it just comes off and it's like visually it's amazing. But now when I see white scruffle like that, that's all I can think of. Okay, well, we had to bring back pleasant memories for you. But you were telling me these cute glasses, you felt maybe this might be the last day you could wear them because of where you purchased them from? Yeah, well, I purchased, I go to a place called America's Best Optometry. Maybe you've heard of it.
Starting point is 00:05:21 No, but it sounds like it's the best. Well, it is for me. And they have a line, I believe it's gone, but I got these a couple months ago. These are from the Sean John collection. And I'm embarrassed to say. Sean Puffy, Pete Diddy. Yeah, they're from the Sean John collection. Do you know that his final name before his latest arrest, which we're obviously getting
Starting point is 00:05:39 into, I have pages and pages on it. He switched it to Love. That was the last interview he had on with Ellen DeGeneres. He said, my new name is Love, because it's all about love. And he has love tattooed on the side of his body. Oh, that one didn't catch on. No, no, it didn't catch on. Because people are still saying diddy.
Starting point is 00:05:58 But he tried to rebrand for the fifth time with just Love, knowing that these accusations were coming. Well, these are from Sean John, which is his real name. I don't think anybody's going to be making any more Sean John merch. I think they actually, America's Best has discontinued the Sean John collection. Now they've moved on to, there's a Randy Jackson collection.
Starting point is 00:06:17 This is not a joke. It's a cheap o'clock. So now I have to go down to Randy Jackson. I don't think he's done anything. And then Millie Bobby Brown has decided to jump into the eyewear. Oh, the little girl? Yeah, the eyewear game.
Starting point is 00:06:28 She's got a collection over there. Wasn't she dating Drake when she was 12? She married John Bon Jovi's son. Oh, okay. Drake was just giving her advice. Yeah, he was calling. As a 30 year old does. He was calling her a knight.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Well, what a time yesterday was. Okay, so, oh wait, before we get into it, before we get in, Chris, the world is going crazy. People are going crazy. That they are getting you and me together forever. I know. Doing stand-up, having fun at- Some of my favorite cities, by the way.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I know, because you're in East Coast Cutie, okay? Ridgefield, Connecticut, October 5th, Chris and I. Boston, the Wilbur, world famous Wilbur on Saturday the 6th. Where is that Sunday the 6th? No, that's Saturday the 6th. Boston, Wilbur. And then Minneapolis, Minneapolis on October 13th, and then Chicago at the Vic Theater.
Starting point is 00:07:25 That one's almost sold out. Oh, very exciting. I love all those cities, especially that time of year. Chris is gonna get his outfits together. I'm getting him outfits together. I'll probably love them as I pack them and then hate them as I see a photo of me on stage. I don't hate what I look like in a meet-and-greet photo.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I hate when someone's like, you were so funny last night, and it's just like. Oh, I know. People take pictures in action. And I was like, what? What was that outfit? Like, I thought it was good. Trust me, people, I'm waiting for the day
Starting point is 00:07:56 that I'm like 100% sold, I love this outfit. Yeah. And it hasn't happened yet. Well, a lot of times I feel like the last couple of cities we've gone, you've lost your suitcase or the suitcase has not made it, and then you just have to wear something that you bought at like some gift shop or something. There's been some close calls.
Starting point is 00:08:12 There's been some ones that were like, hmm, like I had this, this hot pink, Alison Olivia short set that I absolutely love. That is one that I love. And then I went and I bought a version of it, but it wasn't totally the same version and it's orange. And I'm putting out some clips because I like the comedy from that set, but I don't like the outfit.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And I'm like, Heather, you're not a fashion model. The comedy is still good, but I know people are gonna be like, what the fuck is that outfit? Some people are like, I like it. And some people are like, what is this tangerine weird thing you're wearing? And I don't know what to tell you guys.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Isn't it funny that like this, I mean, more people comment on your looks than anything else. I know, and I'm always like, what is this tangerine weird thing you're wearing? And I don't know what to tell you guys. Isn't it funny that like this, I mean, more people comment on your looks than anything else. I know, and I'm always like, I'm not trying to be a model, you guys. Don't get so angry about it. Okay, let's P. Diddy, you guys.
Starting point is 00:08:57 There is so much, and I feel like everyone must know every detail because I was consumed with it yesterday, but you may not. So he was arrested on so many charges I can't even get into. AR-15s were found. They did a bust, drugs, a thousand bottles of lube. Now this is in the Miami house? What house are they finding all this stuff in?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Well, he was arrested in New York. He was at Central Park just hours before, enjoying a sunny day. I saw that. I saw a video of him. He is now being held without bail. His attorney is saying that's ridiculous. He's such a standup guy. He knew this was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And he did everything to assure that you should let him out. He paid off his mortgage. He's trying to sell his jet, but he hasn't. So you shouldn't be scared that he's going to disappear. I don't know why you guys are worried. Why wouldn't you let him out? It's not like he's like, has been super powerful in paying off people and doing horrible things for 25 years.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I don't know why you wouldn't let him out, but they're not. He is staying there until the trial or whatever, until the next year. In a Brooklyn jail, which they say is a pretty hardcore jail I read this morning. Well he did another thing. He said, please let me out, okay? And I promise that when I go back to my Miami home in Star Island next door to Rosie O'Donnell, I promise I won't have any female visitors. And I'll let you guys see the log of everybody that comes to my house and I promise there won't have any female visitors and I'll let you guys see the log of everybody
Starting point is 00:10:25 that comes to my house and I promise there won't be any females, so can I go home to Star Island or wherever he is? And they said no. Yeah. So he's still staying there. Speaking of Rosie O'Donnell, I saw her talk about it on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:10:37 About P. Diddy? Yeah. What was she saying? Are they neighbors? They are neighbors. Yeah. And she said years ago, he, or at one time they were neighbors on Star Island. So I don't even know if his house is still in Star Island, whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:48 She's not there anymore. She left. Okay. Well, when she was at Star Island, he was having a New Year's Eve party and he invited her family, whoever she was married to at the time, the kids, whatever. And they went over in sweats and the guard would not let them in. They said, it's a white party. You have to wear white.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And I kind of believe he started the whole white party thing. He did. And that's why we had a white party in like, in the movie, white chicks. And it was like him having these very big white parties in the Hamptons, Paris Hilton, all that stuff. I don't think these were freak offs. I think he had fun Hollywood showy parties and then he had these freak offs, which we'll get into. But she said, so he invited them and the guard turned them away. And then he felt so badly that the next day he
Starting point is 00:11:38 said, I rented out the movie theater in our town and you and your kids and everybody, you can see whatever movie you want. I feel so badly. You know, so she had one of those stories of like- Oh, that she was turned away. Yeah, so she had one of those stories, like nicest guy in the world. So she said, I wouldn't have ever believed it
Starting point is 00:11:56 that he was also a rapist. Just like, I wouldn't have believed it about Harvey Weinstein because I'd be like, how is this guy like at the Oscars making movies happening and then just like raping on the side? Like how does, and it's like, well the reason is because Hollywood is corrupt and they shut their fucking faces
Starting point is 00:12:15 and they don't talk because he will ruin your life or take your life. Right, and she doesn't, I mean, Rosie O'Dowd is not behind closed doors with the guy, you know? She goes to a party. Well, maybe... I'm sure he's nice at the parties. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Maybe he'll let her... Maybe he was like, I'll every woman, but I'll have no women but Rosie come visit me. Rosie could come, yeah. I mean, this is so many things. I mean, I'll just... There's so many things. We'll just get into it. But really what it comes down to in a nutshell is they have video evidence, so much evidence, because he filmed the freak-offs.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And the freak-offs were parties in which he would have some professional, like sex workers, come. Said male prostitutes would come over, this is what I read. Male prostitutes would come over and fuck women, I read. Male prostitutes would come over and fuck women, and he would masturbate or film it or whatever. That was one part of it. So basically, it's like he had his own live action porn instead of watching it on his flat screen,
Starting point is 00:13:18 he basically wanted live action porn that he could participate in. It's like dinner theater. I don't know. And so he would, and these people that he was there, the trafficking thing is that they would go over state lines and everything. He'd get them at the place. And the people that were working for him would have to wear like little fanny packs with all different kinds of drugs and baby oil and things for the party just in case somebody needed it, in case they were starting
Starting point is 00:13:48 to wake up, whatever. So these are like handlers of his or something? Staff, whatever. Staff. So they would have it all ready to go. If they were doing it at a hotel, they would go in before, make sure that there's good lighting, that there's plenty of the lube, there's plenty of this, there's plenty of that, plenty of drugs. And then after the freak off, they would go back in and assess the damage and pay whatever
Starting point is 00:14:12 damage happened. And in one hotel room, it was $46,000. So I don't know what they were doing to destroy furniture or whatnot or throwing people in walls while they were having sex or raping them. And a lot of jizz probably on the... All over everything. Yeah, carpets. I'm sure carpets and things had to be replaced. The thing is that I've really gathered is what I always suspected of Epstein is that he filmed it and got damaging video evidence
Starting point is 00:14:45 of people that he wanted to control, men and women in the music industry, so that they would forever either stay with his label or go do whatever he said. So there were men that have sued and come forward and said, like, I went over there and he was saying like, if you wanna make it in this business, this is what you have to do. And sometimes it was like they were coerced with drugs and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:15:10 But sometimes they were woke up the next day and felt pain down there. And he would say, Oh, I had you last night. And here's a video of it. So here's a video of us having sex or here's a video of this. Did he? Yeah. There's a video of, of this person here's a video of this person. Wait, he did it? Yeah. Here's a video of this person having sex with you or you know. And so like here it is.
Starting point is 00:15:31 So I hope you cooperate with everything I ask for you for the next 30 years or whatever. And you know sometimes I'm sure sometimes maybe it was okay okay, I wanna do this, you know, but it was the blackmail of the video and everything that helped control people. And then of course there were women that he would meet. This other beautiful blonde girl I met, I saw her story. There's just so many stories. So I am just, listen people, there's so much,
Starting point is 00:16:01 like don't get on me on the facts, just enjoy that I'm giving you what could take 10 years to go through this, because it went on for 25 years. But there was this other really beautiful model who said, you know, she met him and of course he's charming, he's rich, he's powerful, I'm gonna make you my girlfriend and your life's gonna change. And then how it's gonna change is,
Starting point is 00:16:20 I'm basically gonna, you know, abuse you, manipulate you, probably get you addicted to drugs, and then force you to do things and have sex with people and I sit back and watch and now you're a shell of yourself and cut off by everybody. Or if you are in the industry, you feel like Cassie. I was looking into the Cassie thing. That was the one that you see the video of him beating her up in a lobby of a hotel. So she sued, he denied it, then all of a sudden he settled.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Like, here's $30 million. And we're like, okay, well, there's a lot out there. Then somehow, and I looked at this, I don't know how, somehow months later, CNN got that video. I don't know how they got it, but there's evidence now that he tried to pay off people at the hotel that this video never be seen. Yeah, that's what I heard. So the video is, to remind you guys, it's him holding a towel around his waist.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Looks like she's trying to leave, go down an elevator. He grabs her. She's got like two, like a little duffel bag and maybe a purse. Throws her down, kicks her. She's so defeated. It's clearly not the first time she's been abused. And we see this video. What I just read or heard, the defense of that now,
Starting point is 00:17:36 their, his defense is saying. That's kind of indefensible though. Well, this is the story that they're now saying. Right. They were a couple. He was a cheater. She got very upset. She went through his phone, saw that he had all these other girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:17:51 She took all of his clothes in that duffel bag and was leaving and he was stopping her, hence why he only had a towel on, to get that bag of his clothes back. So it was a little misunderstanding between a loving couple. You know, now that you say it like that, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:18:09 So why the kick then? Just get the... Well, he wasn't proud of that moment. But it wasn't what... Just for the clothes. But anyway, he was such a good guy, he decided to give her 30 million. The other defense of his is the reason
Starting point is 00:18:22 he gave her 30 million is because she said, I'm gonna write a book, you know, if you don't give me it. And he was like, you know what, you don't need to type. Here's 30 million, go live your life with the guy that I introduced you to. So there are, he's also, his camp is also saying that whoever she ended up falling in love with, who I think she still might be with, who has the two kids, was a personal trainer that he was nice enough to introduce her to. Oh, wow. So here, you poached my trainer, you married him.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Okay. You should thank me, you have a beautiful life, and here's like 30 grand, no, you know. Right. Well then of course, all these other people came out. There's this other guy that just last week, he was awarded like some huge amount of money, but he is currently in jail. He was a victim of P. Diddy.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And he made a lawsuit and the judge granted said, yeah, I believe you. And he was one of the people that said like, I was used, I was abused, I woke up, this happened, you know. But he currently is in prison for very bad crimes too. Yeah. So what happens now? He goes on trial. So he goes on trial and all these things, you know, there are so many things in the history.
Starting point is 00:19:35 What goes on with like the freak out parties? What happens? Is it a, what is it called? A freak show? It's a freak off. Freak off? It's a freak off. And to hear it, they see, I guess it was the DA of New York explaining.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah. We have videos of the freak-offs. That's always great. I mean, just to be calling it the freak-off. Yeah. And that's what they called it. They didn't call it. I know. And I love it like when Wolf Blitzer has to report on this type of stuff too, and he has to say things like,
Starting point is 00:20:03 and then it was a freak off. It's a freak off. And it's like every now that's on like, I ain't gonna match my freak. You're just like, I feel like freak might be the new word that we don't wanna say anymore when it comes to like sexual stuff because it might bring back what.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Okay, a freak off. Obviously people are very disturbed by the thousand bottles of lube. That's what I keep hearing. And yeah, I mean, I think he did buy in bulk, whatever. He's probably a member of Costco or Sam's Club. However, yeah, that tells me that nobody was prepared to have any kind of consensual sex.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And the lube was extremely important as they were just passed out. My parents buy in bulk as well. I just, I'm not saying, no, ketchup. They love it, they have a lot of ketchup. You know, they're getting up there now. I told them, I want to be honest with you. I don't think you're gonna, you're not gonna make it through this box of ketchup.
Starting point is 00:20:55 My parents had a thing of paprika and they did not make it. I think I inherited it. I think I still have it. Cause it's a, yeah, I think I still have the paprika. My mom always liked it on salmon. Oh, is that right? Yeah, I don't know why, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Oh, it sounds a little freaky. You could still say such things. Let me just tell you something. But now what I had read. Yes. Okay. Ask me about anything. I read that there's like these, you know, women, whether they be famous or singers and
Starting point is 00:21:23 trying out for, because they have these other band, these off-shoot bands. I remember years ago, he was on Chelsea lately with a band. Remember he came on with those- Remember he was late. Yeah, he was very late. He was very late. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And Chelsea like, 12 o'clock. He was probably coming from a freak-off. Yeah, he was probably from a freak-off. Yeah. He had to clean up a hotel room. But anyway, he had like a female band with him, whatever. Yes, Danity Kane in 2008.
Starting point is 00:21:46 That's what it was. So he had a show on MTV, Making of the Band. He first did it with a boy band. And I watched something last night that's on Hulu from the Impact series, which I've been on a couple of those documentaries. And it was probably done six months ago, but it popped up. So I rewatched it, where I was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:22:04 I didn't even realize all this was going on. So there was one guy from that that was interviewed, which again, he was some white guy, won it, had one album with him. He didn't have anything bad to say. Okay. Well, Aubrey O'Day was part of this Danity Kane. And she has been like sounding the whistle of what an awful person he is for years and everybody was like, oh, shut up, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:33 So in the stuff I came across, somebody is now saying that, and all this is like alleged whatever, there's so much information coming at me. I'm just like going to tell you what everything I've seen and heard and you can take it for what you want. That someone said his thing was to, if a day didn't work out as a band, he'd get them addicted to drugs and then use them as part of his free golf. That's what I heard. Yeah, he would get people addicted, girls addicted to drugs and stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And some girls and boys are allegedly under 18 and some were not. Right. But it was really the coercion of being under drugs and also manipulation and also do this and I'll help your career. Yeah. And then having it happen and feeling like,
Starting point is 00:23:20 well, now this is out there hanging over my head so I better cooperate with everything else that's asked of me. Wow. And really, really horrible. Oh, here it says, index obtained by TMZ, Diddy's legal team says if he's released on bail, the security company that keeps a log of all visitors to his Miami Beach home will hand over those logs to the government lightly in order to be fully transparent about who Diddy is contacting.
Starting point is 00:23:44 They also say Diddy will limit all visitors to family, property caretakers, and friends who are not co-conspirators in the federal indictment. Well, that's probably not many people left in a circle. This is a show I did in 1998 called Lyricist Lounge. Tracee Ellis Ross, it was, Claude Brooks produced it, it was on MTV. These are some of the other people, they were all like rappers that wrote lyrics and stuff. And I remember, so it was, Snoop Dogg made an appearance,
Starting point is 00:24:21 all these people. And I remember they wrote a song and like a rap and they're like, and we're gonna, you know, and da da da da, and I'm the gay rapper, you know? And I was like, wait, what's that? And they're like, oh, you know, there's like this, the secret thing about among rappers, like who are the gay rappers?
Starting point is 00:24:42 Cause at that time nobody was out, nobody. So, so I was like, oh, so I think from way back then, there was a lot of DL stuff, you know, on the down low and everything. And it just makes sense that P. Diddy was part of that. And obviously he has, you know, sex with men and women. And, you know, God forbid it sounds like some of them are not of age.
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Starting point is 00:28:20 How old are they? They're like teenagers, like maybe close to graduating high school or around there. And then he has two or three boys. They're older, yeah. Yeah. Right. And so she, unfortunately, at the age of 43 and being fit and gorgeous and healthy, got pneumonia.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah, she died. She did? Yeah, just as this book was finished, about to be finished. Okay. So that was kind of interesting. And then when they found out she died, Cory, who is Chris Jenner's boyfriend, he was there. He was at where?
Starting point is 00:28:57 When the police came. What was he doing there? Just helping out. Oh. Just helping out. Interesting, right? Yeah. And, right? Yeah. And, you know, I don't know how many people are dying of pneumonia these days.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah. Hope no one catches polio. Right. But interesting. And everyone has always thought there's something real suspicious about it. There's always something, people always thought he was involved in the Tupac murder. Yeah. And I still don't know if we've ever truly solved that because whoever's saying that he did it,
Starting point is 00:29:25 I don't know, because that person's in jail. So in her book, alleged book that she was writing, she tells about how he comes in and she's like, oh, you got me flowers. And he's like, these flowers are from this guy. And she's like, what? He probably even bought the flowers just to be mad at her, physically abused her, all this right then just freaks out.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And she's like, what's going on? And just, it's very similar to what was going on with the Cassie, where you're just in this, this situation of horribleness. So there's that. This girl, Jaguar Wright, has been talking about P. Diddy and all the secrets and all the disgusting shit that he's done.
Starting point is 00:30:10 She's been talking for like three years on different podcasts and things. And who's she? She is a songwriter that's been in that world, has won, has had a level of success in the business. And so I just heard a little interview she did. She's like so excited this is finally happening. She's been saying it.
Starting point is 00:30:30 She wasn't accusing Jay Z of being a, but I think there's a theory of like, there's other people that just don't wanna now be associated with them from JLo who dated him. Yeah, that was. Yeah, they want people to forget that they ever were part of his world. Jamie Foxx, from J.Lo who dated him. Yeah, that was... Yeah, they want people to forget that they ever were part of his world. Jamie Foxx, Jay-Z.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'm not saying any of those people did anything wrong, except know him as a person and hang out with him. But I mean, I think a lot of people are probably freaking out. But my whole thing is, if we never got the videos, if we never found out who the Epstein people were, are we never found out who the Epstein people were, are we going to find out who all these people were? Maybe. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah. And then people would say that. Okay. Also, Wendy Williams always was saying. I do remember that. She was always saying like, I remember she said, Matt, yeah, it's hard for Cassie because I think she even mentioned Cassie in the story, but she was like, or she sort of alluded to it.
Starting point is 00:31:29 But even if you try to leave and you're dating a powerful mogul like that in Hollywood, in the music industry, and you leave and you're at a hotel, you better believe he's gonna find that hotel, he's gonna land his helicopter on the roof, and someone's gonna be knocking on your door and it's gonna be like, it's going to land his helicopter on the roof and someone's going to be knocking on your door and it's going to be like, it's time to go. Like how, you know, how do you really escape someone that has all that power?
Starting point is 00:31:50 You know, it's just, but here were some of the, all the crimes that, oh, here's this other part. This I thought was really interesting. Meet Sean Diddy. This is from New York Post. Manipulator in chief. So this girl is being compared to the Jislaine Maxwell. Her name is Christina Crowham.
Starting point is 00:32:11 She's chief of staff at Combs Entertainment. She has been implicated in the sex trafficking investigation. And she recruits the people? They said she's alleged to have played a significant role in facilitating and covering up illegal activities, including organizing the freak off. So she's like a party planner. That involves sex workers. Freak off planner.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yes. Big difference. Involved sex workers and controlled substances. Despite these serious allegations, she has not been arrested, but the accusations highlight her deep involvement in the operations and her close relationship with combs who has pleaded not guilty He's pleaded not guilty all the stuff to sex trafficking racketeering and transportation of to engage in prostitution and So according according to it They said
Starting point is 00:32:59 He has said on an interview She's been my right hand for the last eight years and has consistently proven to execute and get shit done like buying the lube. Don't know how I'd function without her. I guess it would be not very... Yeah. I don't know how you would function without that lube.
Starting point is 00:33:22 But also according to the little rod stoop, that was the guy that actually won, I think, his suit. She ordered sex workers and prostitutes for Diddy and would also have to get baby oil, lubricant, extra linens and lighting to prepare. So I wanted some good lighting in the saturn hotel room. Extra linens are important, I think, when you're doing that kind of business. They found AR-15s, three of them. So then I was looking back and at one point when he was accused, so he was accused, he was at a nightclub, that was the thing with J.Lo.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And a shot went off and it shot this woman in the face. And this other guy that was from Belize went to prison for like nine years. He senses got out, lives in Belize, it's like a politician there and is all clean cut. And he says, yeah, I was a scapegoat. Like, so this woman has always said it was P. Diddy, Sean Combs love, whatever, that shot her in the face. He got out of it, said, that shot her in the face. He got
Starting point is 00:34:25 out of it, said, I've never owned a gun. I don't have a gun. J. Lo was there. She got out of that situation. But I remember this guy telling me that was like a manager at a big management company that absolutely existed. I went to the offices and I don't know if he was trying to impress me or what, but he was like, oh yeah, I just did a meeting with, you know, Puff Daddy, it was Puff Daddy at the time. Cause it was like before 2000. And he's like about J-Lo,
Starting point is 00:34:54 cause J-Lo is gonna be the next biggest thing. And I'm like, who's, that was when I was like, who's J-Lo? Like I didn't even know at the time. And he put down a gun on the table and he just told me that. And I was like, Oh, that's kind of scary. But then I was like, is maybe that's the way like music rappers do business. Like I didn't know. So he's always been having guns and threatening. And then to see him say, Oh,
Starting point is 00:35:15 I don't even own a gun. Well, clearly you have eight, they found three AK 15s with the serial number scraped off. They found that in the raid. Deface serial numbers and a drug, Drum magazine, that was found in the raid. A what? Oh, magazine. Drum magazine were found in the raid. Narcotics including ketamine and ecstasy were seized, which were reportedly used to maintain and control over the victims.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Okay. Also, there are rumors that there was also the GHB drug, Xanax cocaine and oxy also already also being found. Let me see what else was there. I want to talk about oh, these were all the things. So I'm back in March of 24, the government agent sent that's when he had the search in March of 24 of his homes in Miami and LA.
Starting point is 00:36:05 They were looking into claims that he was involved. So it must have been from that search that they have built their whole case from, I'm assuming, and what they found. And they have video evidence, of course, of the assault with Cassie in the hallway from 2016. But here's some of the other things that he got in trouble with. In the past? In the past, in the past, in 1991, Combs co promoted an event that led to a deadly stampede.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Jake, then there was a Jake, the Jake Robling shooting in 1995, an incident linked to a feud between Combs and Shug Knight. The Steve Stouty attack in 1998, Combs assaulted Stouty over a music video dispute. Then there was the New York club shooting in 99. That is the one that I think I was talking about with the girl shot in the face. Then there was the J. Cole scuffle in 2013, an alleged altercation at an MTV VMAs movie after party. Then there was the Drake incident in 2014, where Combs allegedly punched Drake over music rights and Millie Brown. No, just kidding. No.
Starting point is 00:37:11 You didn't mention anything about the glasses. No, but Drake didn't like his glasses from the Sean collection. This one is my favorite. Because this really brings it home and makes him relatable. Right. brings it home and makes him relatable. Right. In 2015, Combs had a physical confrontation with a UCLA coach who was coaching his son. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:33 He was that dad. Yeah, he's gonna be that guy. Why aren't you playing my son better? Like, he even took it to like, to the dad portion of his life, okay? Then there was a Jane Doe lawsuit. Back in 91, there was one where this woman said she was allegedly drugged, raped, and filmed sexual assault. There was a second Jane Doe, same type of thing, from singer-songwriter Aaron Hall,
Starting point is 00:37:58 involving singer-songwriter Aaron Hall. Then there was a third Jane Doe lawsuit in 2003, claims of gang rape involving combs at his studio. I just can't believe that all these things were out there. Yeah. Just like when someone else says, oh, there's a lawsuit about a real housewife who didn't pay her lady that did her hair extensions in 2015. Okay. And we hear about those things. These all existed. And nobody reported on it. Like, nobody was saying this was...
Starting point is 00:38:31 I heard about all those, though. Back in 90 and... I don't know, I feel like... You're right, but it's just... I really did not hear about him being like... And I feel like... Even like at the Lyricist's Lounge, I never heard about him being like, and I feel like, even like at the Lyris Society, I never heard about him being a bad person.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah. I didn't really hear about it until like recently. Right. I mean, I wouldn't have been scared to meet him or anything. I mean, I saw him with like celebrity, I figured, yeah, he had several, you know, wives slash partners, whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:05 But I never heard rumors of this freak offs and things like that. I never heard about the freak offs. So I'm saying when you're part of it. I mean, you're not running in freak off circles, I don't think. No, right, but I'm saying it never made it to any mainstream type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:19 If there was talk among the music world, it was staying within the music world and they were keeping it quiet. 50 Cent would every now and again would come out and say things. 50 Cent is so happy. Yeah. So he was always kind of, I think, blowing the whistle.
Starting point is 00:39:34 He was always kind of dropping it and saying it, yeah, and like putting it out there. I feel like now, if you're in this world of Hollywood and stuff and you know there's bad people, like it's just a matter of time. It's just a matter of time and you just have to be patient. And it's gonna be hard because I'm assuming, fitting you for 10 years. And he was like, this motherfucker just got another, eyewear frame deal.
Starting point is 00:40:01 He just got another vodka, Ciroc. He just got another, he's got the key to the city. He changed his name to Love, Ellen's still having him on. Fitty was probably like- I mean, he was like, gotten in movies there for a minute. Yeah, I mean, Fitty was probably like, when is this gonna, when is the world gonna see that, like, when is this all gonna happen, but I can't be the whistleblower,
Starting point is 00:40:21 I'll just keep dropping the hints on a tweet, on a this, on a that. And eventually... I mean, his white parties in the Hamptons were, like you said earlier, they were the first white... I mean, there was the... They called him the Great Gatsby of our time. Like, he was like, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:40:36 go to the Great Gatsby parties of the 20s. It was like, this was... That was, you know, P. Diddy, and that was like the first time we really saw, like, hip-hop moguls be partying in that part of, you know, P. Diddy, and that was like the first time we really saw like hip hop moguls be partying in that part of, you know, richness. It's the Hamptons, you've like made it. And, but I mean, I think, like I said,
Starting point is 00:40:54 I think if there's a photo of someone, like a Paris Hilton at the white party, wearing white from 1995, no, I don't think she was part of the freak offs. I don't. But probably some people in those photos were. And some people went to the party and had a few drinks and had a past app and took some photos and went home and never and thought he was the nicest guy
Starting point is 00:41:15 in the world. Yeah. I just don't know when, like I read all these stories and like, I don't know, when do you have time for all this? Like, is there a, I feel like the guy's designing clothes, designing eyewear and vodka. Well, I think part of it besides- When do you have time for all this? Like is there a... I feel like the guy's designing clothes, designing eyewear, and vodka. Why do you have time for freak-offs? I think besides being a freak and being a horrible person and having a god complex and a devil complex and everything else thinking you control people, I think much like Jeffrey Epstein, this part of manipulation of the people that maybe either participated willingly or unwillingly and filming it was part of his wealth growth.
Starting point is 00:41:52 That is what got him the rappers that maybe were like on the fence about signing with him or got, you know, got, you know, I don't know, along with him being a horrific gross person. I think it added to his power and his wealth. And then paying off cops and things like that, I'm sure, were all part of it. Wow. And now I know why he always wore sunglasses. Oh, why?
Starting point is 00:42:17 Because eyes don't lie when you're just a horrible person. And when he did that one video after the Cassie thing, when the video came out, he tried to save himself. He took off the glasses. He did what you say, like take off your makeup. Maybe do a tinted moisturizer if you're white. Find a room in the house that doesn't look too garish. Yeah, nothing too fancy.
Starting point is 00:42:38 You don't want your Emmys in the back. You don't want the ocean in the back. He did that without, but he did take off the glasses and he was like Yeah, I'm you couldn't deny that video, but he was like I was in a bad place Yeah, however, he didn't say then she took my clothes and we were just a toxic fighting couple now That's the the defense stories right that he was they were a toxic fighting couple and she you know, like every like every chick I found your phone! Who's this bitch that you're talking to? I'm taking your clothes and then he lost it. You know?
Starting point is 00:43:09 No. I mean, we know obviously there was, she got her money. So now are we going to hear, is there going to be like a 60 minutes or whatever with all the people who are at the freak offs? I mean, are we going to hear sit down, Gayle King interviews with freak off people? I mean, that's what you want to hear now. I think anybody that's involved is freaking out, is freaking out because whether they were a victim participating or part of getting the people, I believe the police know. I believe the detectives and the prosecutors know every single person and that's why they took this time to so and maybe because the powers that be wouldn't let them expose the
Starting point is 00:43:52 elites of Jeffrey Epstein. Maybe they're this is New York as well. Maybe they're like, no, we're not going to let this one go by. You know, this is at the level of R. Kelly. And yeah. Okay. Wow. I mean, it's absolutely horrible.
Starting point is 00:44:13 But then also, I think it's a good time in the world that this shit, hopefully, is really getting exposed. And anybody that's currently doing that that hasn't been caught I hope to God they like stop. You think that's still going on? I mean I feel like people now, I don't know. I feel like we live in less of a- Well I mean people talk about, I mean there's trafficking raids all the time.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But with the elites, like the way people would talk about the Hollywood elites, we'd all kind of laugh and oh you know this is whatever. But look, Jeffrey Epstein, R. Kelly, him, the Balenciaga thing, which no one cares about anymore and everyone's like, what, what was that about? Anyway, all that weird shit exists. And I think the fact that it's like exposed and now people just talk about it, get it out there so that it's less likely to happen again in the next 10 years. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:06 That's what I'm hoping. But I think he'll spend the rest of his life in prison. It looks like it. A hundred percent. I mean, that man, that's crazy. Yeah. Shit. And all for what?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Like all, like just watch Pornhub or something. It's not as fun. Isn't? No, that's what I'm saying. He wanted his own live action. But that's where people are like, okay, this is the Hollywood elites where you're controlling the people and what they think.
Starting point is 00:45:30 It's like, it's just each step. It's like, oh, I'm rich. Now I can have a pretty girlfriend. Okay, well now I can have five girlfriends. Well, now I can have sex with whoever I want. Well, now I wanna bring in guys and girls who are underage. Now I want to see my friends do it. Now I want, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:51 That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm like, it's not just someone who's a sex addict that was a weirdo that hired prostitutes or whatever. It is like, it's about the control, the manipulation, the power over humans. Like you have power over humans. You have power over humans. You're forcing them in this situation.
Starting point is 00:46:08 You're purposely trying to get them addicted to drugs so that they can't get out of this situation. That's where the real evil is. So poor Wendy Williams, who always knew all the stuff back from her radio days. Back from her DJ days. She was in this world. Right. Well, I was very upset by the documentaries because I'm like, I don't care that she agreed
Starting point is 00:46:32 to do this. Why did they allow her to be on it? We know she has dementia. We know she has an addiction problem. Now Wendy Williams conservator is suing A&E Networks, Lifetime and the creators of her bombshell docu-series claiming the host made chump change only $82,000. Was how much she made on both of them. There were a few of them.
Starting point is 00:46:56 So they're going after them saying they must feel they have damages or whatever and that the creators were likely to have made millions she only got paid 82 000 so i feel so badly for her um there's this new no stradamus guy that's revealing all they and apparently he's predicted a bunch of stuff oh yeah i guess there was a meteor that was supposed to go by earth the other day did it happen? I don't know. It didn't hit us. I guess we would have heard or not. Anyway, I know I've talked about my ability. Your psychic ability. Psychic ability, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Okay. So another one of my psychic things came true last night. What? Yeah. I don't want you to freak out. It came true last night? It came true last night. I predicted it about two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Wow. And I was smart enough to have Drake cut that clip. OK. Which, by the way, some of my reels and TikToks do well. Others, sometimes they, I don't know if I posted the wrong time, they don't really get on. So this one only had about 50,000 views,
Starting point is 00:48:00 which isn't my best, but whatever. Yeah. But it was about how I predicted that Anna Delvey was going to, they were going to start the dance on her ankle bracelet, which would be bedazzled just above the brown character shoe and go up her leg. And sure enough, here we are. Here it is. Here it is bedazzled. And in the comments of when I cut that clip,
Starting point is 00:48:28 before I knew this was going to happen, people said, that's a great prediction, Heather, but you cannot bedazzle an ankle bracelet. It's government property. You can't touch it. You can't camouflage it. Well, tell that to the gay bedazzler over at Dancing with the Stars. He's not going to let the government stop him. Excuse me? This will be bedazzled, sweetheart. You're right. That would have been a whole...
Starting point is 00:48:53 He's not. That's definitely a hit. Yeah. Arrest me if you must, but this needs... Look how well it matched her dress. Yeah. I mean, he nailed it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:03 And so anyway, all of a sudden calls, texts, people shaking, they're like, Heather, what other things can you predict? So you're like the new Notre Dame, forget that guy. I'm only pop culture. And you're not seeing like earthquakes happening or like World War III or anything. Well, when I do go to bed and I pray no earthquake,
Starting point is 00:49:21 it doesn't happen. And every time we have it. There's been a lot lately. I know, and all those times I didn't. I fell asleep watching something and I forgot to say, it doesn't happen. And every time we have it. There's been a lot lately. I know, and all those times I didn't. I fell asleep watching something and I forgot to say my prayer. Oh no. And so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Yeah. And I am like a dog about earthquakes. I do feel it and I can bricked exactly how big it was. And so the other day when we had the four, it was a four seven and I immediately took to my phone cause now I'm like. I saw the video. And I said four six and it was four seven.
Starting point is 00:49:50 So, you know, I don't know what to tell you, but I did have a nun that told me that I think she would just try to settle the class down. Well. She'd say, that's God just settling it. So it won't be a big one later. So I always just wanted to believe that little ones are okay. Well, I think they are kind of.
Starting point is 00:50:09 They release the pressure of, I mean, I've heard that. I mean, I'm not moving, so deal with it. But now that we are on the prediction of who's gonna win Dancing with the Stars, not that anybody cares, but do you know? Is she going to win? Anna Delvey? No. I don't have the list in front of me But the person that's going to win is going to be the athlete the gymnastics
Starting point is 00:50:32 Well, whoever the athlete is several in this season as far as I know it'll be the female athlete. Yeah, whoever that is. Okay. Yeah And that's it. That's what I'm gonna say I don't even know who it is, but I'm just gonna say, whoever the female athlete is, is gonna win. You know, there's Alfonso Ribeiro. He's the host over there. Yeah. That guy has been, I mean, good for him. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:50:53 He has worked nonstop in some way or another for his whole, you know, without any. I've met him. Delight, delight. Yeah, yeah, you tried to. We were going on a tour of Calabasas High for Drake. Okay. And he and his wife and his daughter were on the tour with us.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And Delight, Delight just nice, like he recognized me, we didn't know each other, like he knew that I was some face that was familiar. And of course I knew him. Yeah, no, he's just, he's a class act. I think that's why he continues to work He's not at the freak off. That's what my next thing I'm like you don't want this like cuz he seems like a guy who you know, you never know We got a phone call come over again or or it was back in the Will Smith days
Starting point is 00:51:38 He didn't know what he was doing. He was so excited cuz he was a dork at heart He was so excited that Will Smith invited him to a puff daddy Party and he didn't know what he was doing and now, oh God, now he- You think Will Smith goes to freaky deekies or freaky freak-offs? Yeah? I don't, I mean, come on, that would be a good, if we're guessing for money, I'm guessing he may have found himself at one at one time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I mean, the party in the Hamptons, the white party, whether that was a freak-off or not, or became, everybody was at that. I mean, the party in the Hamptons, the white party, whether that was a freak off or not, everybody was at that. I mean, everybody. Right. That's why I'm saying, I don't think, just like when someone has a photo next to Harvey Weinstein at the Oscars, I don't think we should say, were you part of trafficking women to go to the Peninsula Hotel? No. Just because you sat there, just because someone walks up to you and is like, Heather, can I get a photo? You don't know you're not, you know, I don't know that I'm not taking a photo
Starting point is 00:52:27 with a serial killer if someone asks me. Exactly. If I say no, then they do a TikTok and say I'm a bitch. So I'd rather say yes and find out that they were a serial killer. And then now you're in on the crime. And then they're like, why was Heather like finding children for him?
Starting point is 00:52:41 No, so no, I think again, one of those parties, just like that other new guy that's having the big parties in the Hamptons. Yes, the sports guy. Yes. Come on, you're getting invited. No one's asking that many questions when your hot girlfriend is like, girl, get out your white dress and your tan G string.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Well, what I had heard was the white party, actually Howard Stern talked about it. I think he went a couple of times. And he's like, there's two parties. And he goes, and I was invited to the one where, and then there's another party on the inside of the house. There's the backyard party, and you need another code or password to get into the inside house.
Starting point is 00:53:18 And he's like, once I realized I couldn't get in the inside house, I guess I'm out. I'm not going. I'm Howard Stern. So he never went at all? No, he went, but he got there and didn't realize there were two different, there's backyard people,
Starting point is 00:53:31 and there's inside the house people. But did he wanna go to the inside? Well, he didn't know. He didn't know it was a free-thump. He said he wanted to go to the bathroom and they wouldn't let him in the house. I mean, whether, I don't know. And then he, no, it's like,
Starting point is 00:53:43 what are you gonna bring to the party? I like instead of a bottle wine I brought this lube. Yes, that's what you bring to a P. Diddy party It's something of whoopee Goldberg said oh, yes, she did view Having lubes not a crime everything else is The lube's not the crime agreed. Yeah Everything else is. The lube's not the crime, the greed. Yeah, everything else is. Poor Whoopi, she's just whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I mean, Whoopi's just like, I mean. Yeah, and it's live and whatever, she said. It's always like, now I have to apologize in my crocs. I don't want, like, come on, you guys. Chris and Heather made a couple of chuckles about it. Look, you know, it's not a funny subject, but whatever, when you're a comedian, sometimes. You gotta find a way.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah, sometimes something, you know. I remember when the Weinstein thing broke. We were recording the show at my house, it was a long time ago, and we were both dying. You and I? We were? Yeah, we were both dying about it. And there was this expose article,
Starting point is 00:54:41 and I'm sorry, but it kind of read funny. To me, it sort of read funny because it always involved the bathrobe, but he was such a job of the hut. Yeah. And he was such the elite and people giving their Oscar. And I'd like to thank God, AKA Harvey Weinstein. And like, it was just, like, of all the people to be caught,
Starting point is 00:55:00 you were just like, motherfucker. Like, I always wondered why his wife was with him. Clearly, like, I've heard stories of how they got together. She divorced him right away. You know, she's dating Adrienne Brody now. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Still beautiful, still designing clothes, left job at the hut rapist, and still did better. Cued Adrienne Brody. There are some women that will just continue to marry and do better. I don't know how. I don't know what it is, but they just like, the luck just keeps coming. Like, something bad, that's bad. There are some women that will just continue to marry and do better. I don't know what it is, but they just like the luck just keeps coming. Something bad, that's bad.
Starting point is 00:55:30 But they travel in those social circles. And she divorced him before, right away divorced him, got all her money before lawsuits and things and lawyers could take that money. So she took a big chunk, was like, goodbye, I'm still pretty. And then it's- That's gotta be good for Asia Brody every day. If he feels like he's not looking cute, she's like, honey, did you see what I was with before?
Starting point is 00:55:53 You look amaze. You can eat nothing but donuts the rest of your life and still be better than a piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. The rumor that I heard, a rumor, she was an escort. Oh really? That they met that way, but that's a rumor. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. The rumor that I heard a rumor, she was an escort. Oh, really? That they met that way.
Starting point is 00:56:07 But that's a rumor. I'm not saying it's 100 percent true. I'm sure she loved him for his intellect. Right. And for the funny conversations they had, you know, and Harvey. I'm sure. Anyway, get back to that. So then you come over and we're reading this and it's a lot about that. So we go and record it and we talk about it. We're just like dying because it's just like one of those,
Starting point is 00:56:28 our heads were exploding at the time. And we filled a bit where in my room, I come out in a white, do you remember this? I came out in a white robe and you took a photo of having to massage my shoulders and stuff. And then I remember that I'm just going to tell everything about my life because whatever, it's all there because this was like something that shocked me. So we're not on TV anymore and someone calls me and they're like, hey, will you talk about
Starting point is 00:56:57 the Harvey Weinstein thing? I'm like, sure. So the car picks me up at like 5 a.m. and I go to this studio in like LA and I talk to that judge, Janine, whatever her name is, from Fox. So it was a Fox network thing, okay? Now this is whatever, eight years ago. I didn't know that if you appear on a Fox thing that now you're gonna be burned at the stake
Starting point is 00:57:24 just under the Hollywood sign. I didn't realize that that was part of the thing. And I was knowledgeable of it and just excited to be picked. I mean, that's why I'm like, you know, that's even if I got called in for jury duty, I'd be like, I hope I make it. You know what I mean? Like, I just want to be chosen, you know? So, like, so I would do the thing.
Starting point is 00:57:41 And they were like, don't you think it's weird that SNL didn't do SNL didn't mention it? And at the time I was like, I don't know, maybe there is a connection, maybe they don't know that he's really guilty and they have business dealings with him, I don't know. Then I was like, well, it is a pretty gross subject. I know it's an SNL worthy.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Just because Chris and I did a bathrobe thing. So I wanna say, in Whoopi's defense. We're very edgy. But in Whoopi's defense and everything, sometimes you're just like, it's hard to say what, you know, it's not always what you think. It's not always like this deep layered thought process, is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:58:18 No, I agree. Anyway, so then I got in my car, and I just was inundated with hate. Yes. I do remember talking about it, like really like edgy roughly about it. I remember that Judge Jeanine whatever's face being like, cause it was like a Skype or whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Her face was kind of like always like that. And I said something and she was like, like she couldn't believe what I said. And I was like, what? Like I forgot that I was like on this like conservative network. Amazing. So anyway, I want to talk about this because I feel like you would have a lot to say about this.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Oh, finally. We got something I could sink my teeth into. You couldn't sink your teeth into. No, I mean, I could. OK, tell me what happened with Jane's Addiction. This happened over the weekend. Yes. On stage, I saw the video and I was like, oh my god.
Starting point is 00:59:04 And then I wanted to save it because I knew you would have a better take on stage. I saw the video and I was like, oh my God, and then I wanted to save it because I knew you'd have a better take on it. Okay, so tell me what happened. James Addiction, always great band, always, they've had their issues over the years, but they're back together. Everybody was shocked that they're getting back together because they hate each other, moralize.
Starting point is 00:59:21 So Dave Navarro, who was like the first guy to wear black nail polish. At the time it was real edgy. Now it's like, if you're not wearing black nail polish, who are you? And he was married to... Carmen Electra. Carmen Electra, and they had a show on MTV
Starting point is 00:59:35 till death do us part. And they were married for like a couple years. He was famous for being a guitarist. But I'm just saying to remember, so he was a guitarist on this first, then he went on his own, and now they have this comeback tour. Okay, so now what happened?
Starting point is 00:59:49 Perry Farrell is the lead singer of Jane's Addiction and founding member. And what I had heard, they were on stage, and what they're saying now is the band is playing too loud. What they're saying now is the band is playing too loud. Dave Navarro and the other guys are playing too loud and Perry Farrell's having a struggle to sing. They can't hear him.
Starting point is 01:00:14 And I guess Perry Farrell talks a lot in between songs. Like Adele. He tells stories, yeah exactly. You know, some people do. And I guess they don't like it, so they start playing while he's talking. And it happened several shows leading up to this. I have to say also, this is such, like, they really are becoming old men.
Starting point is 01:00:32 That's it. This is like such an old man, let me finish my story. And then they're like, come on, like, we want to get the show over with. We still have three songs to go. Okay, continue. So I guess it just came to a head and he finally was saying that Dave Nurah was playing too loud, his voice couldn't be heard, and he went over and confronted him.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And then they're saying that one of the other guys in the band took some cheap, his wife, Perry Phelps' wife went on Instagram to say, did you see him taking cheap shots at Perry, punching him while he was... The other guy who pushed him away or Dave? No, the bass player. Is that the guy who's holding him right now?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Is that the bass player? No, there's another guy comes in. Another guy comes in and starts punching Perry Farrell. So anyway, Dave Navarro came out and said, he said a nice thing. He said, you know, we should have done that. Then Perry Farrell kind of came out and said, then they said, we're done. We're canceling the tour. It's over. We're noting the tour, it's over.
Starting point is 01:01:25 We're not performing together anymore. So that's the end of it. But the other thing I read is that it was like, I imagined him like singing, and he said that there were people in the front audience in the audience that were like, we can't hear you. And I'm like, okay, well also they probably can't hear him because whatever, it's weird and you're in the front
Starting point is 01:01:44 and maybe you're older, whatever. But I also love that too that like, now everybody, you know, I've gotten several DMs from fans that said, we came to see you Perry, not Dave Navarro's guitar. And he's like, they're here to see me. Like it's just all the ego thing. He was also upset because he believed,
Starting point is 01:02:00 Perry Farrell was saying that they're all out to get him. They think they were turning his mic down and they were fucking with him. So that's what he believes. What do you think? Do you think they were fucking with him? I think, yes, I think they probably were playing loud. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I do think they were fucking with him. Do you think they regret it? They also, there's rumors that he's been- They were going to freak off after? They had to end the show to get to a freak off. No, there was rumors there was a thousand bottles of lube backstage. No, that he'd been drinking. Perry apparently drinks a bottle of wine on stage and he had been drinking.
Starting point is 01:02:37 And who knows whether that's the thing or not. But I don't know. It seemed like Dave Navarro kept us cool throughout the whole thing. But I think he's probably happy that it's over. He can go back to his tattoo. Doesn't he have a tattoo show or something? I think he judges tattoos on some stuff. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:52 He's one of those people that, you know, it's like that look's never gonna change. Like, when he's 70, he's gonna have that same look. I mean, eventually, like, with the bands like that, they just, like you were saying, they just, I felt the same thing with P. Diddy, seeing that video of him in the park. Yeah. You know, now he's just like a fat they just, like you were saying, I felt the same thing with P. Diddy, seeing that video of him in the park. Now he's just like a fat old man.
Starting point is 01:03:09 And the same with Harvey Weinstein, all this stuff, you're like, oh man, that must have been, those were the days. And now you're just a fat old man. Yeah, you get to the level of like, yeah. And that's why he was probably, I'm sure the freak-offs haven't happened in the last five years.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Or maybe the last couple years. I'm sure they stopped. I think that's why he was like, now I'm sure the freak offs haven't happened in the last five years or what or maybe the last couple years I'm sure they stopped. I think that's why he was like now I'm love look at me now then he started to worry that it is all gonna crumble and he was like Let me see if I can make good with my maker And if I do nice things and I talk about love and I donate yeah, maybe then You know, I'll be spared my fate, but you probably knew it was looming. So what's it like to buy your first cryptocurrency on Kraken? Well, let's say I'm at a food truck I've never tried before.
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Starting point is 01:05:26 Here he is. Oh, wow. He looks like a rock star turned tennis coach. Yeah. That kind of looks like Dave. He's got like blonde kind of rock star hair, a beard. And then they also showed the cute wife, Jordan, leaving her tennis practice. Was that recently?
Starting point is 01:05:45 Yes, it's all like today. And I just think it's like, it's such a cliche that you would start, that they divorce a to be or whatever, would start dating her tennis coach. I took tennis lessons during COVID. Yeah, oh you did? Uh-huh, just to do something during COVID.
Starting point is 01:06:01 And the tennis guy who was cute, and I'm like, you know, let's see where this leads us. You know, I'm ready for something to excite my life. And he goes, so like, where is this going? And I'm like, what do you mean? Where is this going? Like I'm a married woman. He's like, no, where is like, what's the goal of this tennis because you're not improving. Oh, no. At all. So he quit on you kinda, right? He did. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:06:29 He did. I was like, I don't know, I just like to have a rally. I'm not trying to go to Wimbledon and I just wanted to have some exercise and I'm just giving you something to do. And then he's like, I don't know, it's just like you're not improving and it's not that fun for me.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And I was like, I'm paying you. Right, this is your job to take people who can't play tennis. And so just like a relationship, he never wrote me again to be like, hey, is Wednesday at three still good? He literally like just did not wanna teach me anymore. And then he eventually got fired from the club
Starting point is 01:07:03 for like talking shit about other members. I mean, as a friend of Dave Grohl's, this story hurt me a little bit, but it was no surprise. Tell us why it was no surprise. I've already given my insight. You have? Yeah, and I heard from our friend. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yes. I hear from her a lot, actually. And she said she loved that I talked about it, because I was a little worried that she would care. And she said. Did that I talked about it because I was a little worried that she would care. Oh. Did you mention her? No, I didn't say her name.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Oh. But she said that absolutely nothing ever happened. And she said if you looked at our texts, it would look like two 14-year-old boys talking about music. Yeah. I said I believe you, but I also believe that he was fishing and you just didn't catch the bait. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:44 That's probably all true. Yes. Okay. So... However, I don't want to say... I knew about this. I knew that there was a baby. How did you know?
Starting point is 01:07:54 I had gone to see the Foo Fighters a couple of months ago. Not even a month ago, probably. Here in LA and with my wife. And we... After the next day, I don't want to give away too much, but my wife, and we, after the next day, I don't wanna give away too much, but my wife was somewhere, and she had told, she's like, oh, I went to see the, little out of it, went to see the food fighters last night,
Starting point is 01:08:14 and the person was like, well, fuck him. Like, he got my friend pregnant, and he's not owning up to it or whatever. And so my wife came home that day, and she's like, you know, your buddy. And this was a couple months ago? No, it was like a month ago. So was the baby born at that point?
Starting point is 01:08:29 No, I don't think so. I think it was just born. As far as I know, I don't know how old the baby is. And what did you think? So my wife came home that day, she goes, yeah, but just so you know, your friend, your boy, your boy's a scumbag. And I was like, well, probably, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:43 I don't know the guy. I mean, I met him, you know. Yeah, you guys, he did the show for a week. Ten times, yeah, right. So yeah, so we knew. And then it came out and I sent it right to my wife. I'm like, you were right. Well, I heard from a very good source too.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah. That was like, oh, I think I know who it is. And it's this girl. But they haven't said who it is yet, right? They keep bringing up this one woman. No, we still don't know who it is. There was the one woman who was like a, she was very tattooed and she ran like a porn site
Starting point is 01:09:09 of like alt porn, meaning just girls that had like sexy tattoos. And some roommate of hers said, oh, he was always over. And she said they were just good friends, but he would pay her rent. But she's like 40 and she is not, didn't just have a baby. So it's not her, but it was just a history of him
Starting point is 01:09:26 like being a cheater. And then, but then there was a rumor, then there was talk that the girl was 20, then they're like, no, she's not. So yeah, we don't know who it is still. Eventually we'll know. I mean, I assume it was coming out and whatever it was, blackmail,
Starting point is 01:09:46 or who knows what or what was going on. And, you know, he probably sat down with his people and was like, the best way to save it is just to come forward. And that was a pretty great statement. I had a baby outside of my marriage. Not like I had a baby with my girlfriend. I was like, I had a baby outside of my marriage
Starting point is 01:10:04 and I'm gonna be part of this baby's life, so you can't begrudge him for that. Yeah. But, yeah. Oh, it's, yeah, I mean, but now he's... I just think he was always acting like... He was Mr. Nice Guy in, like, Rock and Roll World, so now he's always a little tarnished now.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Yeah, and also when you just think there's, like, the one, the one that's, like, the good guy, and you two, yeah, but it's always... I like the one, the one that's like the good guy, you two. Yeah, but it's always, I feel like it's the ones that brag more about being like the great dad or the great husband that usually isn't. Just like the person that brags about, oh my God, my husband and I have sex all the time,
Starting point is 01:10:38 four times a day. They're the ones that are probably not having any. Kind of like when you always say, when you win an award, I just watched the Emmys the other night, and you say, when you win an award, I just watched the Emmys the other night, and you say if you win the award, don't gush too much about your husband, or boy or girl or a wife or whatever, because- Did you see any overly gushy ones?
Starting point is 01:10:55 Yes. Okay, which one? Billy Crudup gushed a little bit over Naomi Watts. A little bit. Okay. You know, and I'm not saying, but you know, we always go back to the center, Bullock gushing over, what was his name?
Starting point is 01:11:09 The tattoo, bike repair, motorcycle repair. Oh, God, yes. Jesse James. Jesse James, the greatest husband ever. Meanwhile, there were girls lined up to swirl on his couch in Long Beach. At the West Coast or whatever it was called. Choppers or whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Yeah, yeah. And, you know, oh God. Yeah, so, but yeah, as far as- So what's a good amount? So like, I get the award, okay, for the Heather McDowell Show. Emmy. Oh my God, this is just amazing. Yes, I'm gonna say it.
Starting point is 01:11:43 I was just a little girl from an upper middle-class home with air conditioning and a pool living on the south side of Ventura Boulevard. And so if I can make it, this is all to the little girls wearing a Catholic school uniform going to private school. You can make it too. You can drive 40 minutes into Hollywood and you can make it.
Starting point is 01:12:04 And I wanna thank my children,insey, Drake and Brandon, and of course my husband of 24 years. Thank you. And that's good. Where do I go? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The new house. I don't know which way to go.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Right. And then you leave. Not overly. If it wasn't for Peter. No. Yes. No, you don't do that. No. Yeah, and now also, I feel like.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Let's hear yours. Well. Let's hear an Emmy speech. Mine would be, I wouldn't thank any people, the names. I would tell some sort of nice story about how you can make it, like kind of like you just said. I would say, here's what you do. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:42 They actually did something interesting. I don't know if you watched the Emmys. Yeah. They did do, I can't believe it took them this long to think of this. They must have asked them beforehand, who would you like to thank? The boring people. What boring people?
Starting point is 01:12:54 Like the agents, assistants and stuff. And then they chyroned that. So if they won, let's say Jeremy Allen White from The Bear would like to thank and they put it up on the bottom. Like Joshua Jones and William Morris, we don't know who you are. Right. I don't know what you look like.
Starting point is 01:13:11 That's a great idea. So they had him just up to the bottom. Love it. And it was like, oh, okay, while they were talking. So if you're one of his friends, like, oh, see, my name's on there. Yeah, you got it. And I don't feel bad that it wasn't mentioned.
Starting point is 01:13:23 And he was Guy Branham. Yes. See him up there? Yeah, I know. No, what'd you think about his outfit? Was he kind of casual? He was wearing shorts. He had on like a short suit. I'll have to get him on juicers to explain that. I mean, I know Guy's a big guy and pants are probably tough. I think you could have found a pair, but you know what? That's okay. But that's kind of his look. He wears the sneakers and the shorts. Yes. You know, these days it's fine. Um, yeah. So...
Starting point is 01:13:47 Yeah. But, so let's hear his feet. Anyway, I would just go, I would just say something about, you know, everybody keep dreaming because it does come true. Look at me. My dad's an electrician. My mom worked in a dermatologist's office. So every day before we sat down to eat, I had to hear about some lancing of something off somebody.
Starting point is 01:14:07 And remind me, are you number two or three of the boys? I'm number three. You're number three of the boys. I don't normally take questions during my speech, but I'm sorry. Yes, what is your question? I'm number three. Okay, the only reason I'm saying this is because I saw this video and I'm always obsessed with birth order because I took a little class. And I always remember that they said
Starting point is 01:14:29 only two presidents in history have been, all but two have been first born males in their family. And I noticed when we were, whenever I was in a writer's room or whatever, that so many of the comedians were the youngest of larger families. Myself, I remember like Tom on the, yeah. And also Chelsea was the youngest of six.
Starting point is 01:14:56 So I was always like, oh, I think that's kind of true. So anyway, there was a video that was going viral yesterday of like a professor or something that said, you know, the firstborn is this way, the second is this way, the third is usually a comedian. Is the comedian, the salesperson or the comedian of the family? Because they don't just have parents, but it's the siblings kind of raising them, which is true.
Starting point is 01:15:20 So you're like seeing inappropriate things. You're just sitting in a high chair, just like observing like chaos. And so I do think that kind of makes you. And then of course, an older kid, I remember one time seeing this woman, she had three kids at the beach and they were like three, two and a baby. And the three year old boy, she was like treating him like she was 15 because she needed his help. So she was like, gather the stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:42 But I'm like, if that three year old was the baby of like teenagers, they would be like picking them up and like doing all these things. Like I used to, I didn't speak till I was like three, cause I would just point to stuff and people would get it for me. Yeah. And you're the youngest. Yeah. I was the youngest. Oh, like I just, so anyway, they said the middle is who you want to marry. They said, oh, you want to marry a middle child because they are the negotiators, they're the easy, and I think that does, as long as you are also very funny, but I'm like, you do have the nice traits
Starting point is 01:16:14 of a middle child like my sister Shannon. Oh, well, that's nice to hear, thank you. I mean, yeah, I appreciate that. You just have to put up with it. You're not the first, you're not the last. You just start, here you go. I think I believe I'm the favorite as far as the family goes.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Of your parents? Yeah, just because I have an IMDB page. She's not that great, but it's expressive to my family. You know? I remember, I remember the things when I read Chelsea stuff. I remember Chelsea, after her mom passed, she had some psychic or whatever.
Starting point is 01:16:46 The psychic was telling her, like, your mom is with you all the time, whatever. And then her sister was like, why isn't she with me? Like I have kids and stuff. Chelsea's like, who has the fun of life? I mean, she'd rather be on the set of the show. That's so funny. Yeah, right, right, right. I don't want to be with you and the poor kid.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Oh my God. Okay, do you? But you know, right, right. It's not gonna be with you and the poor kid. Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay, do you... But, you know, speaking of that, and all this stuff we're talking about, Dave Grohl and P. Diddy and kid,
Starting point is 01:17:12 I, everywhere, like, just yesterday, I have to go to a lot of functions. My daughter's five, so school functions and stuff. And the kids, the names are, you know, there's a lot of Hendrix, there's a lot of Lennon, there's a lot of... Well, your daughter's name is cool. I know, but it's not... I'm not... She's not named after a Bowie, a lot of Hendrix, there's a lot of Lennon, there's a lot of... Well, your daughter's name is cool. I know, but it's not, she's not named after a Bowie,
Starting point is 01:17:29 a lot of that. Oh, after musicians and stars. Stars. So let this be a lesson. Yes. Dave Grohl, P. Diddy, to everybody. Do not do that. Cause you don't know the scumbag they could be.
Starting point is 01:17:43 I mean, look at Dave Grohl, we all thought this guy's the greatest. so not only names. I'm not kidding I was at the park with my daughter yesterday the woman called her three kids, and this is not a joke Bowie Jagger and Lenin those are the three and I'm not saying that there's anything wrong But you never know. Lenin's dead so you're safe. They're all dead. And Bowie's dead. Oh you're right. They're all dead. Okay, that's the thing that you know That's another thing my girlfriend told me never put anyone's name on your body. Tattoos. That's the other one. They're all dead. And Bowie's dead. Oh, you're right, they're all dead. Okay, that's another thing my girlfriend told me. Never put anyone's name on your body.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Tattoos, that's the other one I was gonna say. Unless they're dead. Yeah. Because a dead person won't disappoint you. I have a friend, she's a dear friend. Her kids, she named her kid Cosby after Bill Cosby. Way before we knew anything. She's like, I love Bill Cosby, comedian.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Bill Cosby. Gotta wait till they're dead. I know, now. Because then you'd be like, like, I love Bill Cosby, comedian, Bill Cosby. Gotta wait till they're dead. I know, now I don't. Because then you'd be like, no, I'm not doing it. Right, I mean, it's not a bad name, Cosby, but you can't. So beware, all I'm saying is beware. I was named after a famous person. Who?
Starting point is 01:18:40 My mom heard the name on the loudspeaker, Heather McDonald, and she said said she was pregnant with me. She'd already had four kids. The top three went to relatives, you know, named after relatives. Shannon, I don't know how she found Shannon. And then, so she was like, who the hell am I gonna name this kid?
Starting point is 01:18:58 She had the name Sean if I was a boy, but not if I. And she said, that's it, that's the name. And she was a six year old and she was at a swim meet and she had won. Heather McDonald. Yeah, Heather McDonald had won the 100 fly. Oh. And that was the star that my mom named me after.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Okay. I don't know where that girl is today, but I know there's been several. Yeah. I've met several, well, I see it in my Google alerts. Oh, there's a lot of Heather McDonalds. Whenever I get a Google alert, half the time it's been several. I've met several. Well, I see it in my Google alerts. Oh, there's a lot ahead of McDonald's. Whenever I get a Google alert, half the time it's not me. It's Heather McDonald of Minnesota just got elected
Starting point is 01:19:32 or Heather McDonald of Minnesota died or whatever. And I'm like, I get all excited, like, oh, I made page six today? No. And then Brandon, Peter was like, oh, I have the perfect middle name for Brandon because we decided to name Brandon. Brandon Alexander.
Starting point is 01:19:49 I'm like, that's a cocktail. That's a Brandy Alexander. Yeah, Brandy Alexander. Oh, yeah. And then I was like, and then his initials would be bad. Brandon. Yeah. So I've said no to that. Yeah, that's a good thing you stopped that one.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Yeah, because my initial is ham, and I turned into a ham. Mine's CMF, crazy motherfucker. Oh, again. Yeah. You end up living up to it. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:13 My sister had on her license plate, Rad Mac, and my dad said as soon as she got that, she had to live up to that name. Oh, it became the license plate. Yeah, because the personalized license plate. So, there you go. I want to just talk about this before we leave because I just thought I need to get your take. This guy, Jason Perrigan, he's very funny and I follow him.
Starting point is 01:20:34 And he said, you know, they're all at the Venice Film Festival. And you hear about when the movie ends. The length of the standing ovation. It's my favorite thing. Yes. And I've thought about it too. Yeah. Like when does someone slowly start to sit down?
Starting point is 01:20:49 Like how does it go on? I've heard 14 minutes. I've heard 17 minutes. How are you clapping for 17? Like remember I heard that about the whale. Yes, the whale. And I was like, what? And so it's the, for whatever reason, the Venice Film Festival seems to be the only
Starting point is 01:21:04 one that- Does that? That times the standing ovations. So it's the, for whatever reason, the Venice Film Festival seems to be the only one that times the standing ovations. Last night, eight minutes standing ovation for the Joker part two and this movie. You know what I'm gonna say? If you wonder why do people go along with freak offs and not speaking up and not protecting people in Hollywood, it's because it's the same people
Starting point is 01:21:23 that will stand there for 17 minutes and not go, in Hollywood, it's because it's the same people that will stand there for 17 minutes and not go, I'm good, I'm gonna sit down, my hands hurt, or I'm gonna walk out and go to the bathroom. I'm not doing this anymore. Nobody speaks up in Hollywood. Yeah, except for you. Or sits down.
Starting point is 01:21:39 When does standing ovation become just walking out? Like, I'm not standing ovation, I'm exiting the theater, the movie's over. Right, I don't know. Like, I hear that and I'm like, I actually never wanna go to a film festival. Never, could you imagine sitting there, applauding for, I mean, I've seen all the great movies, all of, you name it.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Goodfellas, I didn't stand up for 12 minutes and applaud. I mean, it's just, and then of course the movies come out and you're like, that's the one? That they stood up for 12 minutes. I mean it's this and then of course you the movies come out You're like that's the one that they stood up for 12. I know Piece of shit. I watched that movie Marilyn there, you know, I remember you couple years ago I had a story about her. What's okay? Okay, the girl that Marilyn Monroe Tell me about it cuz I remember that we've got such oh 13 minutes standing ovation. I watched that movie. I was like, oh my god I think they were just trying to get out of that movie. I was like, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:22:25 I think they were just trying to get out of the theater. It was such a shitty movie. It was so shitty. And she got like an Oscar. Wait, where is it? I think she won the Oscar, but she was nominated. Yeah, she's a very pretty girl. There she is.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Her name is Anna D. Armes. And this is the People article. This is exactly how it's read. Anna D. Armes opens up about why she left LA to live off the grid in rural Vermont. So I'm imagining her in like a fucking tree house, like naked and alone. And I'm like, how did she turn into such a weird hippie?
Starting point is 01:22:56 I read the article, it's a $7 million home in rural Vermont that features six bedrooms and eight bathrooms, but she just had to get, she just felt, you know, there was just too much in Hollywood, she just needed to get away. And I'm like, you know what? I'm in Hollywood, and when I'm sitting in my backyard, nobody's knocking on my door.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Like, I have greenery and a pool. Why do you have to go to Vermont or Wyoming? I just need to get away! She needed a little cocoon, it says. She met a really rich guy who had a house. Wow, she's a gorgeous woman. Have you noticed that People magazine has gotten very dark? You ever go over to the, they have like a crime section.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Oh, they always do the crime stuff. Oh, I didn't know that. They've had that a long time. Really? Yeah. I recently been looking at it for like topics and stuff, and I was like, oh my God, children bitten by rats. I was like, oh my, I didn't, I usually have to go on and see
Starting point is 01:23:44 what Suzanne Somers eats to stay healthy. They've realized like they had to go on a different route, but they've always like kind of featured like big crime things. I'm gonna end on this story because I need to talk to you about it, being that you're a dad. Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:57 TikToks, Matt and Abby Howard face criticism for leaving their one and two year old sons alone in a room during a dinner on a cruise. Do you know the story? Well, let me just explain to the people. I don't know who this cute couple is, but they have amassed millions of followers. Everyone loves seeing them exploit their cute babies
Starting point is 01:24:14 and whatever. They went on a cruise and I guess they said, we're finally enjoying a meal or something. And but, you know, and somehow these sluice figured out where are your kids. Then they came back and said we have these baby tents or something that we left in the room with the monitors and we had the monitors. Yeah. But there was someone watching them. So then other people that are mothers are like okay here's the thing. No you didn't have someone watching them because if you had someone watching them you would say that we have the girl from the baby class watching
Starting point is 01:24:47 them. We had my aunt watching them. And if the aunt was watching them, she would have the baby monitor. Right. Like if they were sleeping in a section, a different part of the room, she would have the baby monitor, make sure that if they make a noise, it's not because they're wrapped up in their blanket and they can't breathe, just that they're like settling. Okay? Yeah. So, of course, are they so young and dumb that they didn't read the People article 12 years ago or whatever, about Madeline, Cute Madeline, which is the famous horrible story of a English couple, I think visiting some place in Spain, who left their four-year-old daughter
Starting point is 01:25:26 and their two-year-old twins in the room and went down like a half a block in the resort. You can still see the room from where they were sitting. Yes. And then they would enjoy adult dinner, wine and stuff. And one would go back and they'd done it several nights prior to this one. Go back, check on the babies, come back, have another glass of wine. They went back and the girl was gone, the four-year-old. She's never, ever been found.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Madeline McCann. And I think to my generation, because when that happened, I had kids around that age. Not that I would ever think of doing that, but that is why you don't do it. But also I don't think- Wait a minute, you never thought about it? Have I ever thought?
Starting point is 01:26:04 No, I've never thought about it, no. Because my wife and I, if it weren't for Madeline McCann, we would do it. Okay. But also I don't think- Wait a minute, you never thought about it? Have I ever thought? No, I've never thought about it. No. Because my wife and I, if it weren't for Madeleine McCann, we would do it every weekend. I can see. I'm thinking that sometimes- The only reason we don't do it is because of that story. And we're sometimes we're in a hotel and Bec gets asleep.
Starting point is 01:26:17 We're like, she's not waking up. It's right down the hall. We never do it, but we always think of it. You never do it, but the reason why you can't do it is because there could be a fire, there could be an earthquake, there could be besides a stranger coming in. And of course, in a cruise ship, everybody has access to your room that works there. So you don't know what could happen. But I honestly believe so many times I take for granted that people know news stories that are like my, I think they're my contemporary,
Starting point is 01:26:47 but they're really like a 25 year old. And you know, like I have this great girl, she does my nails when I love talking to her. And we always talk, I'm like, what are you watching? And she goes, I watched this thing about this guy. And I'm like, Scott Peterson? And I realized, yeah, why would she know about Scott Peterson and Lacey?
Starting point is 01:27:06 She's a young girl. And she's like, so do you think he did it or not? I'm like, oh, sit back, girl. Like, I know every little thing. So I'm like, yeah, maybe people need to be reeducated about why you don't do something. Baby Monitor or not, there was that other couple that got caught for the Baby Monitor thing.
Starting point is 01:27:24 They were in New York. He had a heart attack or something. He had a heart attack, and that's when they realized that got caught for the baby monitor thing. They were in New York. He had a heart attack or something. He had a heart attack, and that's when they realized that she had left the kids alone. He was like a correspondent on one of the morning shows. Yeah, and I think, I remember I had a friend who told us her kid's in college now. This was a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:27:38 And she was like, and she did stay married to her husband. And she goes, I'm so mad at my husband. She goes, after leaving him with the daughter all day, who was like a baby, she came home. This is before Uber eats and shit. And she saw like a bag from like Tito's taco stand or whatever, which was down the street from their house. And she goes, when did you get the taco? And he goes, oh, I just ran down and got it like two o'clock. And she goes, and you packed up the baby and everything for a taco? He's like, no, she was sleeping.
Starting point is 01:28:08 And she was like so furious. And she told us, and we were all like, and that's when I realized that, no offense, fathers just do not think like mothers. They just don't have all the genes. Some of them don't. No, I agree. He's a don't. He's a wonderful father, he's a wonderful husband. I literally, he did not think like there could be an earthquake,
Starting point is 01:28:29 there could be a fire. He was gone from the house for literally seven minutes. What could possibly happen? He could get a car accident on the way home. You don't know. So it's just those kind of things that you just have to always you know, always remember not to do. It's a good lesson. I saw this other video. I'm not saying we've done it. I saw this other video that was like, this is why moms and dads are different.
Starting point is 01:28:54 So it's like a ring camera and it's like a, kind of like a van or a truck or whatever. And there's a little baby, it's like maybe like one, it can walk and crawl. And the dad's standing in front of it and the baby's like on the hood. Yeah. And he says like, he he, it's like right like one, it can walk and crawl. And the dad's standing in front of it and the baby's like on the hood. Yeah. And he says like, it's like right in the middle.
Starting point is 01:29:09 So can't like roll off with it. And then all of a sudden it just starts crawling up the, and now it's on the roof. And he goes, oh my God. So he goes around the side and tries to get the baby to come to him on the roof. And the baby's like, and goes down. I mean, it's going down.
Starting point is 01:29:23 And you see the mother who must've been in the house, come get on the car, grab the child and get him down. I mean, it's going to and you see the mother who must have been in the house come get on the car, grab the child and get him down and it was like that's why sometimes people just have to be educated. You do not ever expect that someone is going to think about these things without being told. Yeah, I agree. I'm a pretty hands-on dad. No, you're an excellent dad. I'm a pretty hands-on dad. I mean, I have to be. No, you're an excellent dad. I'm not worried about you. I'm not an excellent dad.
Starting point is 01:29:49 People say I'm an excellent dad, but I don't know the alternative. I have to be. There's no other way. Like, if I don't take her to school, she's standing on the sidewalk. You know, so it's like, when people say, you're a great dad,
Starting point is 01:30:01 I'm like, hmm, I just have to be, you know? Because somebody's gotta pick her up. Yeah. And it's me. And dad, and if you're a great dad. I'm like, hmm, I just have to be, you know? Because somebody's got to pick her up. Yeah. And it's me. And if you are an active dad, you'll always get so much credit. I remember they would always say that about Peter, because I'd be working.
Starting point is 01:30:14 And they'd be like, oh my god, your husband is the greatest. He was here. And he picked up the kids. And I'm like, yeah? And then I would get there. And they'd be like, what are you doing here? That's what I know. That's what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:30:28 My wife's just like, they all look at me, but like, you know, like, where have you been? Yeah. Like, yeah, well, I'm, they love me over there. Oh my gosh, Chris, Chrissy Poo. Besides joining me, besides joining me, where else? I had so much fun on our last dates that we did. We really did.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Those were great. And we're going to have even more fun now. And you guys go to HeatherMcDowell.net for all those dates. But where can they find Chris? You can find me in Cincinnati. Cincinnati September 25th, a funny bone in Cincinnati. Then Columbus, Ohio. I'm going through the Ohios,
Starting point is 01:31:08 Columbus eating cats and dogs, isn't that Ohio? That did not happen. They're eating the cats. They're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs, they're eating from the people they take them. They're eating the pets in the home. They're eating. I have to say, and I don't do politics, but the memes with that.
Starting point is 01:31:23 And the music, they're making songs out of it. And one of the cutest ones that I must have sent to 12 people, I guess I forgot to send it to you, is a little standing baby, and she has a black lab, and the dog's just laying there, like used to, like the kid just playing with it. And the baby's eating the dog's ear, and then you just hear that voiceover,
Starting point is 01:31:42 they're eating the dogs, and it's so cute. I can enjoy. I'll be in Columbus, Ohio That's the 26th of September and then Appleton, Wisconsin Skyline Comedy Club 27th and 28th Come on down. Roar Comedy Club in Springfield Massachusetts frangiola.fun has everything so many more dates a ton of dates And of course everyone loves loves Cover to Cover, your podcast, your Patreon. Cover to Cover's the podcast. Come on over. And then, but get your tickets, you guys, because really, I am close to selling out
Starting point is 01:32:12 our dates with Chris, and I don't want to hear you cry. I don't know what the world is going to be like in a year. Ask everyone who came to the last shows we did together. Yes. I mean, I'm out there taking the pictures. You take the pictures. I'm out there taking the pictures. You take the pictures. I'm down there with the people. We had so much fun and it's gonna be that much more fun.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Yeah, fun time. I love you, Chris. I love you back. Thank you, bye.

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