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Scoop. Thank you for having me back. Let's get into it. There's so many things that have been going on in our world of pop culture and Bravo. So it was announced officially that Vanderpump is coming back. I talked about this a little bit on the top of the Thanksgiving show because I did a new show for that.

But with none of the returning cast. And, you know, I knew it was coming. I knew from some of the people they knew like a week prior. But I had heard that they were interviewing people and things like that and auditioning people, but that also it was with James Kennedy. And when I saw James Kennedy at the Vanderpump thing, I go, well, I've heard some things,

and he goes, what have you heard? And so I said that, and he's like, no. So I am kind of sad. I hope he finds a place on one of these shows, either with the new kids or on the Valley. I mean, I think James will be fine without the show. He's going to do his DJ thing. He's going to be DJ Polly D. I think he'll be.

He's one of the few on the cast that will be OK after all of this. He is really good reality TV. I think the network will take a break from him, because I know people are still trying to push the allegations against him out there. And they're still trying to make that a thing that I think... Oh, you mean through the Raquel relationship?

Raquel and Kristen and all the things that people have said about his past relationships with the two of them. That I... He's gonna let the dust settle. He'll come back in some capacity. I think he's one of the few that's a great reality star that people still want to see and like watching his evolution on the shows.

I mean, he'd be- Like nobody cares about Katie and nobody cares about the sandwich. Like I don't wanna spin off about the stupid sandwich shop. So what do you think is going to happen with Katie and Ariana? Ariana's gonna be fine if she plays her cards, right? She'll probably transition into more of like a host.

Love Island will keep her around for another season or two. I mean, the longest they've kept a host is like four seasons and I feel like by her third or fourth season, she'll do like the Kristin Cavallari thing. Like right after The Hills, remember, she was doing all these like red carpets and hosting gigs and then eventually she ended up becoming a podcaster. So I don't think Ariana's like particularly,

and I know people hate when I say this, I don't think she's like the most interesting or the most like entertaining to watch. I think she was great on Love Island, but I think like the Ariana rose colored glasses will wear off eventually. And Katie's, I don't know what, she's gonna have to get a normal job in a couple of years.

Like nobody wants to see her on reality TV. The sandwich shop is not gonna last. She's nice, but like I don't envision her doing much, but knitting again. I do feel that Katie, I don't really, I like her a lot as a person. Yeah, she's nice as a person. But I kind of don't know what you do from here,

except if you really get into the sandwich shop and maybe really do something in the restaurant food space, if that's something that she can do. I mean, of course, course you know she has a podcast She can be still an influencer. She's still like pretty and fashionable So she's not even a good influencer though Like she is a good influence like she was like by this smirnoff and she was like look at my outfit And here's my vlog like she is putting herself all over social media

I don't see Katie doing like even the Vanderpump announcement She like did an Instagram story, and she's like miss you guys. Like it was so like what? That is very true. Oh like but I do see like uh uh James Kennedy great could be great on I'm a celebrity get me out of here. The villain. The traitors. He could be great on that. So could Tom Sandoval. Tom Sandoval is already on traitors. So if he does well in that capacity he could be great on that. So could Tom Sandoval. Tom Sandoval is already on Traders. So if he does well in that capacity, he could be doing other things. He also did the Special Forces. It looks like we know Tom Schwartz lives now next to Jax

in the Valley. And we know that Sheena did a lot of appearances on the Valley and Lala as well. And so I think that they're going to be incorporated in that friend group, because it's organically friends. So yeah, and then we'll see how this, how do you, do you have much hope for just a brand new bunch of people struggling actor type people?

No, this show's gonna flop harder than the Rony reboot. Gosh, you are on fire today, he is not holding back. No, this show's gonna flop harder than the Ronie reboot. Gosh, you are on fire today. He is not holding back. No, think about it. We had Lohan Beach Club. We had what happens at the Abbey. They've tried to recreate Vanderpump so many different times.

With a good cast of people that are messy. It doesn't work because when Vanderpump first came out, it was so new and we fell in love with the messiness of the show and we followed them all of these years because we watched them grow up and we watched Stassi go from like the brat to the wife. And I think that's why everyone like stood by her through her cancellation is like they were we got to know them over the years so we were invested in them.

We don't care about a bunch of you know messy kids that are going to be working at the restaurant yet. We already saw it. It's gonna be compared to the original. It's not gonna live up. It's gonna feel like it's trying too hard, similar to Roni. I think also reality TV in general, you know, we're asking a lot of this generation,

all the generations that watch X millennial NZ, to really learn about 10 new people or whatever, seven new people and care about all seven new people. Like we did 15 years ago when reality shows were all we had. When you're watching TikTok, scrolling, scrolling all night long so quick,

I think that is the challenge of launching any new show, whether it's the Southern Charm Savannah or Winterhouse or whatever those things that like are not around anymore. It's because we're asking a lot or the Martha's Vineyard. Yeah, I read an article this morning, they're like, all these shows are on pause. I'm like, is that just the new name for canceled? Like, are we just saying that we're shelving it

and it's on pause until we decide nobody cares? I think they don't like to say cancel. I think they like the on pause also because it's dangling a carrot with these people to stay behaved and letting them know you never know what could come back. Like Miami. Yeah. So just be good. Don't bash the network.

Don't sue the network. Like you might have a chance of coming back. Look what happened. Yeah. Look at Miami came back eight years later. Yeah. I think that you're right about that. So yeah, there you go. I mean, so I was actually with Sheena,

I was with Summer Moon and Sheena, we went to the cute little zoo in Palm Springs. And yeah, I mean, she is, you know, and she's doing all her things. She has the vlog, she has the podcast, she has, like you said, and then she'll be on the Valley. And I'm sure she's not making whatever, if she's per day scene that she would ever be making,

being that she was like an OG on Vanderpump. But she's smart to have been, I'm game, I'm ready to go, I'm in the hood, I moved there, like that was a smart move because all these other things for her to continue will, you know, she knows. Yeah, and everybody laughed at her because of it, they're like, oh, she's moving to the valley, what does she think she's gonna be on the new,

the valley, we don't want her on the valley, it's like, guess what, now she is on, we have what, Sheena, Lala, and Schwartz that are gonna be on the valley. It's like, guess what? Now she is on, we have what? Sheena, Lala, and Schwartz that are gonna be on the valley next season. Listen, they found a way to stay relevant and to keep rolling with it and Sheena's gonna be on TV for a while. Yeah, so good for all of them.

This was a cute story, I don't know if you saw it, but Martin Lawrence's daughter, Jasmine and Eddie Murphy's son are engaged. Oh, that's a fun throwback. Is that not like the cutest funny Nepo baby love story we've ever heard? That's a, I would not have put them together, but that is a cute story.

It'll be kind of really fun now that everyone's on Instagram and stuff, because back in the day, you know, maybe stars kids would meet, but we didn't know everything about it. And we're like, oh, isn't that weird that those two were married? You know, you didn't know. Now it's like, I mean, yeah,

why wouldn't these stars get together? But they said the dads didn't introduce them. It was Martin Lawrence's brother, her uncle, that introduced them and- Well, they're all still in the same circles. Yeah. That like, they're gonna run in, yeah. I mean, that introduced him. And... Well, they're all still in the same circles. Yeah. Like, they're gonna run in, yeah, I mean, that makes sense, and it's actually a cute story.

It's totally cute, and I just feel like it needs to be, like, made into, like, a funny, cute, heartwarming story with them, like, playing themselves. Okay, let's get into Real Housewives of Salt Lake. So, Heather Gay's new book, you just mentioned it when we were walking stairs. When is it available? Tuesday, December 3rd.

Did you get a early copy? Can you review it for me? No, I didn't. I had no interest in getting an, well, I had heard things that had come from it, but I didn't need the advance copy. Even screeners, I don't even watch screeners, and I just wait until it's all out.

Well, I- Did you get an advance copy. Even screeners, I don't even watch screeners. I just wait until it's all out. Well, I- Did you get an advance copy? I did not. I just saw one article that she, that someone said, oh, the scoop at the end is that she talks about the receipts, timeline, all that stuff. And that she said that at one time,

Monica said, or was revealed, that Jen Shaw's husband tried to kiss her. Yeah. But then Monica came back and made a statement, a very well-written statement. And it was just like, I mean, it's really sad that you still have to talk about me and you're exploiting other people's lives and that this absolutely is not true. I never, you know, got together with him or anything like that. And I don't know what this second, I mean, I like Heather Gay a lot.

I don't know what else she can tell in the second book. I mean, I don't even care who gave her the black eye anymore. Like, there's nothing in here. We never knew. We still don't know. Do we know? No. Well, she said it was Jen Shaw. Or she alluded to it being Jen shot the reunion last year, but like You know and that's when Jen came out and she's like that's not true and I'll sue you if you say that and then she Said it and there was no lawsuit

So I don't know if Jen really did give her the black eye or didn't or whatever But like it's just it's not like if this is the most interesting thing to come out of her book and I'd heard about The Monica and coach Shaw stuff Maybe about a week and a half ago before the story actually dropped. And I was just like, really? Like that's what she's gonna be leading with to try and promote her book is this Monica

and Coach Shaw affair where they like met at a gas station and like he came on to her. Like- Is that the story? That's the story is that they met up at a gas station and then at the gas station is when he, you know, made a move on her and she rejected him and then I guess she told someone.

I'm assuming that Heather, so Heather won't reveal who her source is, but I'm assuming it's Tanisha, the girl that told her about reality Von Teese. Which is also a very untrustworthy person. I mean, how are you feeling about Salt Lake this year? It's had some good moments. I mean, obviously the best moment is hiring Bronwyn

and her May, December relationship with like Crotchety Todd, who just was convinced after who knows what to let her do this and to be part of it. And he's showing up. Now one of two things can happen next season. He stopped showing up like Carrie Hamlin and Tom Girardi, where we like never see him anymore. Or Mary Cosby's husband, he's gone too.

Where we just don't see the husband and he lets her do her thing and they stay married. And, but I'm sure the producers will say, well, we're not gonna ask you back. The producers probably like, yeah, we already know that's going to be your MO. But the thing is, is that like, if that's your husband, you can say, sorry, he's sick. Sorry, you know, he has a business meeting. Like, if you want to save the marriage and you don't want him to be seen

and you still want to have your fun, then I would say don't force him to do any more of this next year. But, you know, she did say in an interview, Oh, it was a throwaway thing, but she did say, everyone thinks I'm a gold digger, but who knows? Maybe, you know, watch out. Season 17, Bronwyn gets a sugar baby. And I'm like, wait, so you're already, how are you getting a sugar baby? Because Todd's either divorcing Todd, or you're going to, you know, be single or cheating on him or whatever. I mean, that's like, again, that is like Erica Jane

who was like, I was gonna hold that man's hand until he died and then he lived. Like, you know what I mean? Like, just we get it. There is a plan here. It is a transactional thing. Yeah, I don't think he ever heard of the show or had any idea what she was signing up for.

And like, he's hating every process, every part of the process filming this show. I don't think he'll want her to do another season, but like the housewives, once they get their first season in and they get a little taste of the fame and the audience likes them, they can't walk away. She'll never walk away. She would rather divorce him than leave the show.

100%. And especially with the child being gone, and she's gonna be like, no way am I going back to just wearing weird outfits and meeting you at the airport with your coffee cup. Like, no way that, and no way just wearing couture that only the, you know, matriarchy of the one nice restaurant in Salt Lake can see me in. Like, no, I'm a star, I was meant to be a star, I love it, it's not going away.

She will 100% put her foot down and be like, either you let me do it, and you don't appear that much, or we're done. Do you think she really dresses like that outside of the show? Like, two years ago, she was wearing these crazy outfits going to lunch. Like, just walking around Salt Lake in these outfits.

Maybe a little bit and then she upped it for the show. Because I think that's, but also she was Lisa Borla's friend. So she knew about the show, she watched the show I'm sure, and she knew if I'm gonna get chosen, these are the things that are gonna make me pop, is that I actually have money, I'm that person that does get invited to the real fashion shows because I'm gonna get chosen, these are the things that are gonna make me pop, is that I actually have money, I'm that person that does get invited

to the real fashion shows because I'm that good of a customer, so that's what I think. Yeah, her house is ugly though. Her and Mary Cosby. The worst! They're so bad. Now everybody was freaking out about the Mary Cosby with her son moment, which was really sad. Yeah. I mean, also like. Did you see what Ali Shapiro said? the Mary Cosby with her son moment, which was really sad.

Yeah. I mean, also like- Did you see what Ali Shapiro said? Jill Zarin's daughter. Oh no, what did she say? She said that, she's like, as a former real housewife kid, like this shouldn't have ever been aired because-

I was just gonna say- Yeah, it shouldn't have been aired because like it's something that's gonna have to live with him and this should have been taken care of off camera and we should have had this storyline once he was in a better place after rehab. I agree. It made me wonder sometimes, when I think sometimes kids are fine,

and the cameras are there, I always wonder if before the mom goes, okay, the cameras are coming, we fucking hate the cameras, the cameras are coming. We fucking hate the cameras. The cameras are coming, we're gonna have a meal, we're gonna talk about your baseball game, whatever. And then you'll get a new pair of Jordans. So like, we don't know.

And it made me wonder when I was watching it and listen, this is Juicy Scoop and this is not politically correct, whatever. But it made me wonder like, did she get him to go on camera? Because she's like, I'll give you some more money or I'll leave you alone for two days to be alone in your room. I just need you to talk to me. And then once they started talking, he was high and wasn't thinking there's cameras on me. This is going to live in infamy, whatever.

And then it doesn't. And then when they did a follow up at Bravo FanFest or whatever, and they said, and Mary says he's doing well. Not he's in rehab, not he's 45 days sober. And I feel, I mean, I listen, I feel for her, I feel for anybody struggling with the child who is into drugs and not living up to their potential because of them. And I think it's absolutely horrible. And yes, this is like a brave moment, but for the, yeah, it's iffy, I agree, it's just kinda iffy. I agree it's iffy.

I think from like a moral perspective, you probably shouldn't put your son on the show in that condition. But I also think in that moment, she didn't realize, like I think she just thought he was smoking weed. Like I think she really thought he was smoking weed. Like I think she really believed that. When I first started seeing him in scenes this season,

I was like, oh, that's a lot more than just weed. Like he's really not present. So I think he, I think that's why she did it. Cause she was like, oh, we'll just have another regular scene that we normally film with him. Like last season when he told her he was married, like, you know, like little scenes where we see their relationship but we don't get too deep.

I don't think she expected the scene to go as deep as it did. So I don't think she was deliberately trying to out his addiction because I think she was in denial that he even had an issue until they were having that conversation. He's telling her, I started doing this when I was 16

and I was mixing this with that, and then it was starting to click to her that that was real, and I think she was just in the moment. So I don't think it was premeditated. As a viewer, I did really like watching the scene because for me it was very real, where I feel like Housewives is so performative now. To me, I compared it to when Vicki found out her mom died,

and she breaks down, and she's on the floor sobbing And it was just such a real raw moment that the audience could connect to that from a viewer's perspective I really appreciated the candor in that moment But I understand where someone like Ali whose mom like embarrassed her by sending her to fat camp on camera Like would be a little touchy about it. Yeah, it's a it's interesting. Otherwise, I feel the show I It's it's still a struggle to feel the show I I it's it's still a struggle to get through. I'm still a little bit bored by some of these fights. I mean they fight at the whatever fake Girl Scout camp. I can't

remember I couldn't even figure what the fight was about. I just was like. Did you hear about the rumor between Lisa Barlow and Mary Cosby and the fight that went on between them and the kids? No, what is that? They got into a fight at, I guess it was at that Girl Scout camp and the Lisa Barlow, I guess, made a comment about Mary's son and I guess about alluding to him possibly being on drugs. And then Mary Cosby responded and like took a shot at her kid and I think called him the R word.

Oh. And so that was a big thing that that was supposed to air and then they ended up cutting it from that entire scene altogether, probably because they were going to lean more into the Mary Cosby. And they want her to be liked and have some sympathy. Well, I mean, we've seen the text and we've talked to other housewives that in the past, they were all terrified of her and terrified that she would lash out and call them, you know,

racist and all these other things. And in the process, she would write really mean texts attacking their looks and their style and their money and like real lowbrow stuff. And yet she's also, you know, ahead of a church. And now we just never hear about the church. No, the church has gone away. Never hear about the step-grandfather that she's married to. But I did see something, and I don't know how legit it is, looked at that her house is also in foreclosure.

Probably. I mean, now that her church has been outed, she's not getting as many of the parishioners' money as she needs. Yeah, no. But yeah. OK. It's a good season.

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I'm not going to say you are broke. But it seems to be that there are financial issues where, you know, moving, whatever. He has plenty of things that are making money and some that are not, let's just say that. And one of it is not, apparently not paying the mortgage. And I'm sure there's a plan there that we don't know about that makes it completely okay.

But the article says four months of no pay or five months now, but. Why has nobody sued Dana Wilkie? She puts all this shit out, all these rumors, and she never has to put a disclaimer. Yeah, well that must not be. That must be, I mean, that is, there was something that said that. Yeah, I think,

well the interesting thing about that- Allegedly, and if it's not true, then that's terrible. Allegedly, yes. And I hope it's not true, because that's another awful thing to have to move out of the home that your kids know. Yeah. But like I said, if it's just a matter of four or five months

payment, I would think that you'd be able to gather that up. Yeah. I think he wanted her to do the show, because he wanted to promote his clients, and he wanted Boy George on there, and he thought that this would give Boy George maybe some new relevance that he could book a few more shows and he could maybe promote

whatever clients he had on Beverly Hills. And then obviously I think he wants her to stay on the show because I mean that's a big income. Nobody's gonna easily walk away from that. Whether you're having financial issues or not, unless you're making boatloads of money where that check is completely insignificant, like nobody's gonna walk away from that.

Right, and I really do think everyone now realizes that like when that stops, the audience really forgets quickly. They forget about storylines, they forget about past cast members, and you know, as much as, oh my gosh, Lisa Renna's the legit model and killing it and everything. I mean, we're not talking about her.

And I mean, it is, so you couldn't, you might be able to be set and do something, but I think at Dureet's age and everything, she's at a great age to keep going. And that was good advice that he told her to keep doing it. It was smart. I mean, cause housewives always get to that point where like their ego gets big and they're like,

I can walk away from the show. And they don't realize not only is that the loss of income, but like you said, the loss of the relevance. I mean, if you want to stay relevant, the only way you can do that is to start a podcast and bang your horse trainer. Yeah. Sorry, Daddy, I love you.

And that's another one. Like we don't care about that story. That was a juicy story two weeks ago. You and I talked about it. Teddy Mellingkamp of Beverly Hills, former Beverly Hills, now a podcaster, was accountability coach where she would text people and say, you had too many carrots. That business went away thanks to Ozempic. And, but, you know, so she was sleeping with her married horse trainer,

where her daughter also does horses. And she said, well, I've taken accountability and like everyone else needs to move along. Okay. But I just think again, well, all right. So the people that always hated her, now I feel good that they're on the right side of history of hating her and the people that Didn't think she was that bad or like no she was pretty bad and the rest of people are like I still don't care

Yeah, like I still don't care. You're just at another cheating Beverly Hills housewife Famous or not. That's what you are. So she'll just continue on. I think she should have just leaned in, like done a whole podcast episode on it, like just told her truth and like. Well, I think in her defense, I think it is. I mean, she has the young kids. And I think it is sticky with him and his job

and the wife who also rides the horses. And so I think she probably did the right thing in just saying, I fucked up and now you guys know, and that's the end of the story. That's all I'm going to say about it. I mean, I think that's kind of all. I mean, I think that's all you can do once you've done that. Yeah. And I also think she's probably in a different chapter of her. Like she got her face left. She looks great. Like she has the podcast. She's making her own money that like,

I can see her totally entering her single era right now. Do you think there's any chance they'd ask her back? I don't think so. I don't think so either. I don't think that they would. I just hope whoever she does end up with that's cuter than the horse trainer,

because he wasn't particularly attractive. No. Not to blow up your marriage over him. No, but yeah, I don't really care about Doreet's fighting with Kyle, though I know that's going to be a big thing. Well, they're friends now. We see them hanging out all the time now. I don't know how invested I am in that.

Yeah, but the stuff with PK is interesting. Yeah, and then she's like, well, you're an alcoholic. And you know what? Just like the Chateau Boudoir, which we'll get into, I think the audience are a lot of boosers. And I don't think that that makes them stop liking you. And if you were an alcoholic and now you're not,

and then you can use that sobriety superiority. Like, well, I'm sober now. So any, yeah, if I was awful to you, I was awful to you. But now that I'm sober, I see you weren't that great to me. You know what I mean? And it's like. I'm over the sober storylines. I'm over the sober story, because they get boring.

Like we saw Vanderbilt, they did a water tasting. I'm like, no, I want you guys to get fucked up again and sleep with each other like give me another You know go bang Rekha some more like give me something interesting other than a water tasting The sober journey is not one for good reality TV. No leave reality TV when you reach that point Yeah, it's it is a challenge. Yeah, and you know it's it's a journey, and a lot of people are on it. And yeah, so that I don't really care about. But they're always so fun to watch, so it'll be good. But I would like to see Dorit go into the Lauren Sanchez of it

all and find a real baller billionaire. But she said she's not dating anyone. She's not thinking about dating anyone. But I would be shocked if they end up staying together and making it work. I could see them doing a long separation like Kyle and Mauricio. And then eventually something will pop up they filed.

But it could be like two years from now where they're just gonna kind of do this dance until someone finds somebody else romantically that isn't gonna put up with it. That's like, no, you gotta file. Yeah, I don't think, yeah, I don't see them filing in the near future, but I don't think, I just don't think they're interested

in the relationship anymore. Like, PK, you can tell, is so done. Like, he wasn't even willing to play with her at the dinner where they were gonna like, we're working on things. He was just like really laying it out straight. No, he fell out of love with her a while ago. Yeah, for sure.

And I think, now I've talked at Nausium about Kyle and Morgan, and my latest thing, which is what I stick by is, I don't think we'll ever know if they diddle each other's dues or did the lickety splits. I really don't. I think it's possible maybe they didn't. And she saw this as a great opportunity

to have an interesting storyline to, and maybe she was enthralled with her. If I always to bet, I mean, I talk about this like who killed John Bonet, okay? Who killed John Bonet, Ramsey? Did they, where were they? They probably messed around a little. I don't think they have in a while.

Morgan will take her calls and they're friends. She does not wanna be on Housewives anymore. She's doing really well in her music. And she- You're welcome, Morgan. And Morgan has never completely come out. No. She had a husband.

There was a clip of her like on a daily morning show. And she's like, that's my husband over there playing guitar. And so like, we don't even know. And this whole thing, I mean, she probably is, or at least by, but like, and I, so I definitely think that's over with. Kyle's not gonna flirt with other women. We're never gonna hear about it

until she gets with some other guy. And I do believe that she was probably trying to meet Kevin Costner in Aspen. No, I think so too. I think Morgan was probably, I think she was in a transition period of her life. Kids are growing up, she's not a mom anymore. Mauricio's moving on, their marriage is fractured,

she's not a wife anymore. And her identity was so built in being a mom and a wife for so long that I think she was going through an identity crisis. Morgan came into her life, there was probably some sort of emotional connection that they had. I don't think it was super physical, if at all. I think that it was definitely more emotional

and Kyle caught feelings which maybe got a little confusing for her. And I think Morgan was like, oh, you're the straight lady that's confused right now and you think that you wanna dabble into the lady pond and I've been around this block too many times, you always go back to your husband, like I'll play around with you because it feels good,

but I'm not gonna go all in with you because it's not safe. And remember they were like filming a documentary? Oh yeah. About Morgan and Morgan had some gene in which he got a voluntary double mastectomy to get rid of a different breast gene than the Braxton or whatever it is. I wonder if we'll ever see that. Nobody cares about the documentary about her. Like, obviously, about her. Like, obviously, very boring. But like, nobody's like, let me see Morgan Wade's journey of, you know, it's after, like, it's after the surgery that like nobody, like nobody cares. Nobody knew who she was before Kyle put her on Housewives. And now everybody pretends, I mean, some of her music is not bad. They helped each other. They helped each other, whatever it was. This one came from Bravo then and now.

I'd like to see this new, real, kickass version of Duree. Could Camille come back? They've tried that so many times. With Camille. With Camille. It just doesn't work anymore. She was good at the beginning, and I just don't think Camille. I think the only way we would have really wanted Camille

back is if we got the Morocco season of Ultimate Girls Trip. Which we'll never see because of Brandi, innocence, but what Caroline Manzo said Brandi did to her in the bathroom. Yeah, which they've all said never happened. Camille said it, Gretchen said it, Phaedra said it. They're all like, I don't know what she was smoking that night because we don't remember seeing

or hearing any of that. Well then on the real halfway zone, they said that Eileen Davidson spoke after Kyle said she'd love to see her returned. Boring. And I say, no, I just kind of, I love Eileen Davidson. She's absolutely gorgeous, but she didn't really bring anything to the table.

And you know, you need younger people. She's absolutely gorgeous, but she didn't really bring anything to the table and You know you need younger people if you're gonna bring anybody Like let's have them you know and have them have a real stake in it Why are they coming back? You know and why did Kyle pick Eileen out of all people like that was the most random choice It was just a safe. It was like Camille and some then you know, someone that doesn't like Camille is gonna be annoyed with her. Didn't wanna say Denise Richards because I think she makes another appearance.

Like I just think it was just like a safe one. Oh, Denise, have you seen her OnlyFans? I've not seen her OnlyFans, but when is that E! show coming? Oh, I don't know. She shows it all on there though. Full of it. Everything. You see it all. I paid. Full of it. Everything.

You see it all. You're a subscriber. I was a subscriber for a minute. Would it tell me exactly what it is? So it's photos, videos, what? Photos, videos. There's like one of her like in the garden and her tits are out and she has her dirty feet

and she's putting her dirty feet in the camera. She's like watering the garden. Yeah, it's wild. So, and do you really think she makes two million a month? I mean, I think you do at the beginning, but eventually, like how many times can we see the cooch before it's like, okay, it's the same thing, same angles. I think she'll really make money if Erin gets on with her.

And they do like a couples thing. And they actually screw? Well, I don't know if they go full screw, but like we're both cooking, we're both watering the garden together naked in the backyard. I mean, you know. People would pay money to see his dick.

Yeah. Does he still do his business? Where he like reads people's minds with crystals or something? What's that business? I don't remember. I don't think anybody really understood it. But yeah, it was like some sort of like energy crystals or something. What's that business? I don't think anybody really understood it, but yeah, it was like some sort of like energy work

or something. I mean, I don't know. Yeah. All right, let's get into some stuff that's happened since the Real Housewife OC has concluded. Yes. So I did watch John Janssen's. His 30 minute interview with Bryce.

With Entertainment Tonight, I watched it. And I read to the comments, and people are, forever Team Shannon, not interested in hearing his side. However, I do wanna tell you his side, since I did watch the whole thing. Please give me the debrief. And I have talked to them a few times, he and Alexis,

at events and whatnot, and very much want to get their side out, which is a lot of things that he'd said, that they met through friends, he and Alexis. Alexis was already talking about going back to OC. They knew it would be a bad idea, but they just couldn't deny it. So they started today. The thing with that I think he really wanted to get across is, you know, he loved Shannon. He, you know, was in this relationship. But there were a

couple occasions throughout the three or five years that they were together, there were two when she was about to resign where she went to him and said, if you don't agree to appear on the show, my contract is in jeopardy. And I believe that that was information he got. I believe he's telling the truth. Now, was that said to her that definitively from producers?

Or was she knowing that it would help and that she wanted him to be there, and she wanted the world to see that she had a cute, happening boyfriend, and she wants him to be part of it, and she probably knows, you know, how she, whatever it works with her relationships, how she can get him to whatever, feel guilty, do it. So I do believe that's true.

And then as far as the borrowing the money, um, you know, he has the emails and everything that it was an absolute loan. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I believe that Alexis was like already in talks to come back to OC, like, you know, like producers, I feel like even Stassi said that after she had gotten fired, one of the producers had come to her and they were just like, would you consider coming back?

They feel it out. They put feelers out there, but it's not like a real negotiation. And I think the second that Alexis was officially dating John Jansen, then the producer was like, okay, now we really do wanna put our eggs in this basket. I think it was not the best,

I mean, for television wise, it was a great choice to bring her back because it was a captivating season, but I think it wasn't a good choice for Alexis to come on and then defend John, especially when John doesn't want to be part of the limelight. If you want to be out of the limelight, then just walk away from it and know

you're never gonna win that battle. Even going into the ET interview, John was just like, I know that people may not want wanna hear my side of this story. It's like, we don't, we really don't fucking care. We already think you're a douche bag. And I watched most of the interview and he made a lot of really good points. And I thought that his side was very well articulated.

He had the Excel sheet to back him up that Alexis posted. He has a lot of the groundwork in the foundation, you know, set up for why Shannon's the worst person ever and why, you know, he just wants to clear his name. But the thing is, the audience at this point just doesn't care. They don't care, but I will say this. In, you know, I met Shannon 11 years ago,

and, but I, like, kind of knew of her back when she had this charity called This Little Light charity. And, because she went to SC, but she was a few years ahead of me. Both, so we didn't know each other when we were in school, but I, you know, right away I knew the girl who she, who I knew that kind of girl. I knew that Newport sorority girl of her era, like everything. And you know, I always really liked her And I, and she's one of those girls that comes from a generation where they love to talk

on the phone, they love to spill a lot. They love to get attention when they say, oh my God, he's awful, whatever. And she did that with David and it got her in trouble with Vicky because she told a story to Vicky that allegedly, you know, there was some fight that happened that got physical with David.

And then when Vicky told somebody and it got back, then it was like, you know, Shannon said, I'll never trust you again. I'll never talk to you. We're done. We're done. How dare you? That's not true. And Vicky was like, okay. So then you will, so then she said right there

in the reunion that wasn't true. That never happened. Yeah. You know, so, so then you will, so then she said right there in the reunion that wasn't true, that never happened. Yeah. You know, so there was that. So then we have this other situation with this guy. And this is where I think Tamara was kind of like, being that she'd witnessed this for so long. And she would, you know,

be really nice to him on camera and everything. But then off camera, she would tell these tales to the other cast members. And then the other cast members would get together for coffee with the cameras there. And let's talk about Shannon's relationship. And they're like, yeah, like, oh my God, she swore me to secrecy. And that happens a lot with friends. Wait, we could have been talking about this the whole time. Like I was like, when you and I got on the phone

about the horse trainer, I go, well, I know why Teddy's filed for divorce. And you're like, so do I. And you're like, I'm sworn to secrecy. I'm like, so am I. And I'm like, does it have to do with an animal? You're like, does it go trot, trot? Like it was like so, and then we're like, okay, it's on.

Okay, you know the same information I know, but both of us were like, we're not gonna be the ones that are gonna spill it, let it get out there and then talk about it because it involves a family and everything. And kids, yeah. So with this type of stuff, I think then when they did break up and things,

and even when it was happening and why she'd get upset, cause she was like, oh my God, John's gonna be so mad that you guys are saying this. And one of the things was that, you know, he called her fat and that he didn't pay for anything and that he had no money for their future. And you know, now they're broken up and I could see whether he wanted to be on the show or not.

I have had lies said about me. You have had lies said about me. It is a natural American reaction to want to clear that up. And he's like, she said on the interview, he goes, he, whatever happened, whether she said it to the other Kathmins or whatever, the perception is that I'm a broke loser who doesn't have money, who took money from Shannon, who also disparaged her in the look department, which she says I've never done.

And in my experience of hanging out with him a couple times, he was so nice to her, talked about her very nicely, and was attentive and delightful and, you know. Yeah, I think when you put it in that perspective, because we have been in similar situations. Yeah. And what we've even talked about, like how going on the defense

is sometimes not always the best move. And you're just trying to clear your name because you want to like prove that you're not who people are saying that you are. So I get it from that perspective. And I understand. I just think it's a lose-lose game because it's like, if you stay quiet,

then like you're still the bad guy. But then if you stay quiet, then you're still the bad guy, but then if you speak out, you're still the bad guy. I mean, maybe a few people, because myself included in watching that interview, I'm like, he does make a few good points and it does kind of make sense what he's saying. We've seen her for 11 years where she's like, you all see the truth.

I mean, we've seen the dramatics, we've seen the victim thing. And she had told me this story when one time we went out on the boat a couple of years ago with a group of people and we were coming from the restroom, going back on his boat to go to his house that the dock is right in front of his house.

And it was now it's getting kind of dark or maybe not. And all of a sudden she tells a story about how one time she almost fell, or she fell in the water. She fell in the water and somebody else had to help her out and John doesn't even care. And I was like, she told me the story and right away I kind of called her on it

and I was like, wait a minute. Yeah. I don't believe that. I believe that either he didn't see it or the first person that saw you fall in the water was the one that helped you get out. And all I'm imagining is Shannon in her like white jeans and her Issa Laurent like platform shoes

and how it happened. And of course he didn't just like leave her there wailing, whoever, so I mean, it's, but I already know her MO and we know, and a viewer you should know it, that she likes to, you know, tell those stories. And when she, even when she was gaining, you know, gained weight, she, you know, I remember her said, the audience loves me more now than ever.

And the audience likes our, the Housewife audience is an audience made up of predominantly middle-aged women. Half of us are divorced and probably most of them drink. And so they love the tragic life that Shannon has shared with us. Yeah. She had, you know, when we met her, she was thin and living in a $16 million house with her husband and her three children. Then she reveals he cheated on her. Then they get back together and do the vow renewal.

Then he supposedly, you know, leaves her on a trip in Hawaii and they get divorced. And since then she's just rented house after house after house and doesn't even have money for a facelift but she's been on a show for 11 years that's international. That looks bad to Bravo, but it also is like doesn't look great on you. And then the argument can be, well, I didn't do well in my divorce

because I didn't have a good attorney and the girls go to such expensive colleges and all this. And so I think in Jansen's defense, he was just like, look, we both had adult kids, but everything, but I was not paying for everything. And when he said the thing about Bravo, she was like, I paid for the hotel. I would think, and anybody in corporate America,

which he was, would think, I'm going to be on a TV show where I'm the star, and they want you to sit in the audience and the camera's gonna go to you. So would you like to come, John? Sure. Okay, great. Of course she's gonna handle it, of course. So now he's sitting next to her on the first class ticket.

Only later does he find out that she had to pay for that ticket, because they only give you one first class ticket. So you have to pay for a second first class or put your assistant in the coach or whatever. And yet she was like, oh, I paid for it. Well, who would think that they wouldn't pick up a companion for someone who's been on the show for eight years?

Do better better Bravo. Everyone should have a first, two first class tickets when you're like the star of the show. And so there was those kinds of things that I think he was like, no, throughout things I picked up and da da da. I mean, people watch Housewives now and they think everything is paid for

that they don't think a housewife spends a penny because they think Bravo covers everything. Like it's just natural to think that like the network. All those parties they have to pay for. They have to pay for themselves. And, um, so I think that was interesting. And then, and then we get to the night of the DUI. And this whole thing that's come out of,

did he hear the crash and bothered not to come out? It sounded like a real chaotic night. Now, he was gone all day in Catalina with his boat. And we don't know, we don't know. Was he completely sober too? We don't know, I'm not saying anything, but we don't know. She comes after Dricki, we know how much she drank because of the DUI.

She's screaming and everything, and this is a common occurrence. The girls come and see it, his daughters. I do think it's weird that he didn't just get the phone and give her the phone, but I think he did that, he said, so that she would leave. Because he was like, I don't want her here because he said, hey, she says I get physical.

No, she's gotten physical with me. But he's smart enough to know that even if she did, he would never want wanna call the police and have police come because she's famous. And also just being a man, chances are you're gonna lose this one. She's gonna say, no, he pushed me and da da da. So why even call unless you're seriously

in fear for your life? So he just tries to get her leave and then she backs out. Now it is weird if you heard, now that he hears the crash, maybe he didn't, maybe he didn't, but then people are like, why wouldn't you call the police then? Because she was drunk and he's probably hoping that she can get out of this. And maybe if she just walks away, then like, which was her plan, she got out of the car with the dog and was like do do do do do do do do do do do do do

and hoping to like deal with the car later. So I don't, you know, he was probably like, I'm not gonna be the one to call the police and have you get a DUI, you know? He probably was just like, holy shit. Yeah, we forget that like she did crash into a house and then she like parked her car and was like pretending she was walking the dog

when the cops were looking like Yeah, I mean and the thing is is like, you know, there was a socialite Yeah that in my neighborhood Rebecca Grossman who has been convicted now for like 30 years and she was You know allegedly well not allegedly because of shoes convicted racing a guy that she was seeing they had an open marriage, this is straight out of a housewife story, and racing to get to their place to hang out. And she went through this crosswalk and hit these two brothers and they died. So it's like, I mean, that that's the story that, you know, everyone should always be reminded, because this girl has all the money in the world. She has three grown children that love her.

The husband stood by her in the trial. She's going to prison for like 20 years. And also just to have that on your conscience is just horrible. So it's like, yeah, I think that's where Tamer was like confused. But I think the clips that we saw and the edits that we saw was just telling someone,

you're drunk and all this. It just doesn't look good. It's like if Tamar would have been like, I'm stepping away from the Trace of Migos, because we can't sing or dance and it's embarrassing. I mean, that I would like to, please just be honest. That you felt like you were like at the old town follies at like a retirement hotel.

And Tamera wants to be young and hip and be with the kids. And she realized it was a horrible idea. And, but she also said, it's too much about drinking. And in light of this, which totally makes sense. So, but in some of the scenes where she feels like, I'm gonna bring up producer Joe, like you just watch. Then the audience is like, wow, you're just piling on because of Shannon. You know, she got the DUI, she did what she was supposed to do. Yes, she hit a house, but nobody was

hit, thank God. And then on top of it, she's got her boyfriend of three years, new girlfriend, sitting across from him. And so every woman is like, that is just like, how much can one woman take? And so I think that's what happened there. And she's good at leaning into the victim narrative and look at me and pour me. That I get why the audience, I think had Alexis not been on this season,

Shannon would have absolutely had a bad season the audience would not have been on her side. Coming in with the DUI, even with the Tamra stuff, I think people may have liked Tamra because it would have looked like Tamra was trying to hold Shannon more accountable, but because Alexis was in the mix and John was tied to it, it just made Alexis look bad

because it looked like Alexis was trying to pile onto Shannon. But here's the thing is when someone says stop being the victim, but we're watching the victim crying. Yeah. They're a victim. Yeah. Like, like it wasn't. Yeah. She wasn't dancing on. Shannon wasn't dancing on tables. Yeah. Shannon wasn't. If she was drinking, we never saw her drunk all season. So even if she was drinking, she was better behaved. And so I think to the audience, they were just like, how much can one woman take now?

I have to put this out there because I'm afraid it's going to happen because Bravo, do not be surprised if Leslie Vador comes on the show. if Leslie Bador comes on the show. That would be... The solo of Bravo, but nothing surprises me at this point. And the tragedy of Shannon Bador will then go to another level. Yeah.

They are, that is, David and Leslie Bador, they have been married, they have a young daughter, and they have each filed divorce and restraining orders in each other too many times to count. But right now they are blissfully in love once again. Who would be her connection on? Who's her lifeboat? Tamra? I don't know.

I don't think Tamra would do that. Yeah, no, no, no. You're right. How would she come in? I think she would have to come in with another new person. She takes yoga class at Jen Podranti's studio. Yes. She needs every person to go in there, pay the $15.

And so she'll go, yes. That or, you know, yeah. Because I mean, even somebody like, let's say they wanted to bring Gretchen, and they're like, Gretchen, can you go have lunch with Leslie Bedor? Yeah. I think even Gretchen's like, look,

I saw what happened with Alexa, with camera being friends with Alexa, it's like, I don't need this. So I think you're right, it would be hard to bring her on. So hopefully that won't happen just yet. Whoever would bring her on would get the reckoning. Yeah, you're right. So they probably won't.

But do you have any inside scoop of anybody who's coming or going with this cat? On OC? Yeah. No, not on OC. I mean, they have to do something. Because I mean, if Alexis doesn't come back, which I don't think they'll bring her back,

I mean, what's the story going to be now that Tamara and Heather and Shannon are friends again? And then we have Katie. Well, listen, none of these people are friends. So hence why when Tamara got the boot, she didn't hear from Shannon for two years, which is why I think she came back with the wrath and was like, fuck you.

Then I do think she enjoyed Alexis. I do think Alexis has a sweetness about her and the other girls like her. But that final scene of them getting along and being like, John did hear the accident. And again, what does that mean? So you would have wanted the cops called? Yeah.

You almost got away with it. You know what I mean? Would you have wanted the cops called? Yeah. Like you almost got away with it. You know what I mean? Like, would you have wanted the cops called? Like, you probably thought he was doing himself a favor. And then when she said, and then I sent the photo of my bloody face or whatever. And then, you know, whatever. A couple hours later, he was like,

wait, what the hell is going on? She's like, he didn't see the, well, how many times have you gotten a text? And like, how many times I've texted my husband and been like, do you want lunch? And he's like, I already texted you saying, do you want lunch? I got it.

You know what? Cause you just go to it and you like, so I'm like, there's a very good chance he didn't see that thing and then was like, holy shit. Or he saw it and it didn't register. Like I've done that before where people are like, you saw this photo that you liked on Instagram. And I was like, I may have seen it, but I didn't give it didn't register. Like I've done that before where people are like, you saw this photo that you liked on Instagram. And I was like, I may have seen it,

but I didn't give it a second thought. Like it just, you just see things on your phone and we're constantly overstimulated that I just. And I think he was so done with her that he needed like a break from her and all the chaos that comes with that. And I do believe him when he said, I never planned on showing these videos.

These are surveillance videos. But he told Alexis, and then Alexis, in hearing about, you know, poor Shanna, poor Shanna, poor Shanna, that's when she was like, poor Shanna and almost hit, you know, my soon to be stepdaughter. Like, it's on there.

And then they realize, okay, now that they've said it and it's on TV, but it's like, if this wasn't a TV show, which is supposed to be reality, right? If this really happened in a neighborhood and someone goes, you know, he's got ring cameras of her acting like a complete freak, almost hitting the daughter.

Like, fuck them. Like, we're, you know, you'd be like, all right. But because we're seeing it and then there's thousands of people coming, I mean, that's what you do when you sign up for this. It's like... But what do you think about Alexis saying that, But because we're seeing it and then there's thousands of people coming, I mean, that's what you do when you sign up for this. It's like. But what do you think about Alexis saying that,

this wasn't a real edit of the real her and what really happened and it was just, they gave her a bad edit, she said. Well, I mean, it is true. You're only on there so much. And she said, if I, because I was a friend, I was sort of limited. She wasn't invited to the London trip.

That's always really interesting when someone is invited to someone, because we saw that on Salt Lake. Where Heather was like, fuck you, like I'm not on for two full episodes. Like you're a bitch, like I get it. And I could see- Because that docks her pay if she's not on the episode. Yeah, and same with Alexis, like oh my God, now I'm not there for two or three episodes.

I can't bond, I can't be funny, I can't make friends. Like, you win, like you win, I get it. And, but, yeah, I think that, like no, I don't think we got to see like a fun side of her or anything, we didn't really get to, no, because they have to edit it down, and they kept the interesting stuff, and the interesting stuff. And the interesting stuff was the drama between the two of them.

Yeah, so it's like, will they... I mean, I'd like to see them stay. Let's see them stay. Let's see them have their wedding and see who goes and what. But I think Tamara will... Tamara knows that now if she can get with Shannon again and Shannon knows the two of them, they know, listen, we can keep making these million dollar

a year paychecks, it's not gonna be hating each other. So what do you wanna do about it? Let's just put on our Spanx and laugh about it and pee in our underwear like whatever and And if when that happens, then I don't know how much Tamra will be actually wanting to be a bridesmaid in the Alexis John Jansen wedding because I mean Yeah at the end of the day It's a game of Survivor and when you're not on the show

You know or you're a friend of or being friends with somebody hurts your reputation, as we saw with Erica. Like, you know, you're gonna pick and choose your sides when it's gonna help your job at the end of the day. Right. I think Katie will probably be the new villain next season. I think they're all gonna turn on her after the way they called her out for like all her stories at the reunion, and nobody seems to really like her.

I think that if she stays, she's, you know, in a bad, in a hard position, because I think she if she stays, she's in a bad, in a hard position, because I think she has a tragic story that she didn't want to share about her ex or whatever, and she didn't want to share it because her kids are minors, and she's probably going to be forced to have to share it, you know? And then people will like her.

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So she and her boyfriend were fighting in a car and they got pulled over and because he had marks on his face, they arrested her, but then he didn't wanna cooperate. And that's why it was dropped. Well, that's like Artem and Nikki. Well, I mean, I guess there were no, well, I don't know. Artem and, who's Artem and Nikki?

Artem from Dancing with the Stars and Nikki Garcia. Yes. That's all been dropped and she got everything she wanted in the divorce. And then she has another, she has a movie coming out, Something in the Ring, and I was like, oh, I wonder if that's about boxing,

just like, getting your boyfriend, I don't know. It's a good look right now. Yeah, this was really interesting. This was, Page Six picked it up, and Kate Winslet from Titanic and all the great movies, she was having a heartfelt interview. And during her time of going to all the events for the Oscars for that, you know,

that was the height of like fashion police and people commenting on people's outfits. And they showed a clip and there you hear some guy, I don't know who he is, he sounded like he had an English accent, commenting on a look. And he's like, I mean, if it was just two sizes bigger, then she'd be okay. I mean, she is just squeezed in that.

And it's like, you know, we all watched, you know, Joan, where we were just talking, oh, you're fat, you're fat. You know, Elizabeth Taylor, you're fat. And she was like crying about it. And then the reporter said, did you ever, have you ever talked to those people that made those comments? And she said, yes, I had a moment and pulled them off.

And she's like, it was a glorious moment. You know, I used to do fashion police at the back of Us Weekly. Oh yeah. And they would send the photos and stuff. I never talked about anyone's body. If it was like, you know, all yellow, I'd be like, stop, sign ahead. like just some stupid, I don't even know.

They were like not good. Like even when I wrote them, I'm like, when are they gonna kick me off this? Like I'm not very good. I'd send a bunch and then sometimes I'd like send a bunch and I'd only get like one in and like the editor wrote it. And obviously he'd just still let me have my little photo down there.

Like it was just, it's a hard place to be. And then when she passed and they tried to bring it back, you know, it was with Kathy Griffin or whoever, it was really hard because it's like she got away with it because she was Joan Rivers. She was a woman of a certain age. But, you know, then it was like, well, no, we shouldn't talk about people's bodies. So then the show becomes, you know, here's this person, they don't look great, that you don't like their outfit, they are a larger person, and then you're afraid to say, so you have to say, oh my God, you know what I love?

I love the color blush. I love the color blush, it really brings out her rosy cheeks, and it's just boring. Yeah, because people liked that, that, you know, ruthless sort of humor that Joan had. I think it really started when Juliana got canceled. Remember when Zendaya called her out and like, that was the whole scandal

and they had to like, cut Juliana. I remember as in, I've said this story before, but in Juliana's defense, I remember somebody called me the day that story came out and said, what do you think about Julianne Arancic? I'm like, what's the story? And they told me what happened that she said, oh, I think her dreads must be smell like a weed

and patchouli. And I go, who is Undyne? Oh, she's a Disney star or something. And my initial thought was, oh, she's probably like a real like anti-drug girl and she's offended that she mentioned weed. I didn't know who she was. So I didn't even know what ethnicity she was.

I'm just imagining a girl with threads and it being associated with weed. And that's what the problem was. I didn't think like that. And then of course she didn't write that joke. Someone wrote it, it was approved. Then it was edited, then it was approved. Then the final improvement said air it.

And they threw her out to die. And yeah, then it really got to be, don't say anything about anybody. Now, I believe that is wrong, what they said. And it's crazy when you look at her, because I just did this, the American reality TV awards. And, you know, I've not had issues with my weight or whatever, but when you wear like a gown,

it's very about the waist, which is kind of not my best feature. Like I have thin legs, but whatever. So then I saw myself on camera and I thought I looked great. And I had the Honey Love Spanx and all of it. And not skims? No, Honey Love. It's a sponsor. No, I really do like Honey Love. But anyway, I had everything and, you know, I looked good, but then I would see the angle from behind and I don't see

yourself behind. And Joan Hubbard would have called you fat. It is the TV and I'm like, well, I would like to work on my waist a little bit. I was like, wow, that doesn't look okay. And it's really challenging in these gowns, which is when you watch these Oscars and stuff, you really see how thin everyone is. Everyone has to be so thin because you're also cut just from like the waist up.

So it's like all, if you're like bigger shoulders, arms, it's just like you immediately, and it is totally wrong to say all that. And I'm glad that era is gone. And it's gone. It served its purpose and people liked it for what it was. And now we can just move forward. What do you think about, what's the scary movie coming back?

With the Waynes? Yeah, I love that. I think that'll be fun. Of course, I want White Chicks to come back. I say it all the time. I know I have the best story. I have the best idea for how they can come back. Well, if scary movies are hit, they'll consider it.

I wonder if like, you know, the biggest thing was, I think that why the guys didn't wanna do another one, even though it was such a hit, is just the amount of hours it took to get them in the making. They literally were sleeping there doing that. And, you know, but I wonder if there was a way, and I don't think it'll be as good,

but couldn't there be a way with like AI and stuff that almost like they could have like a, not have to do the makeup. They just have to have the green screen, yeah. Yeah, and they're still doing the voices and acting like girls and doing all that, but maybe they wouldn't have to actually sit in a chair for seven hours.

Yeah, and wear the tight skirts and the heels. And like, be itchy And like, yeah. No, the heels and the outfits were okay, but they had to lose a lot of weight before they did it. And they wore tights, because they weren't going to cover their skin color. But no, the shoes and all that were fine. A lot of the times they'd wear like tennis shoes,

they were so tall too. But it was just putting all that in the wig and itching. Yeah, on the prosthetics. Okay, so this guy is a football player named Josh Allen. He has an ex-girlfriend named Brittany Williams. Well, he just got engaged to Hailey Seinfeld and they posted it, it was beautiful.

So then I guess people went to her page, Brittany Williams, who's a cute girl, and we're writing probably annoying things. And she wrote back as a response to someone else, luckily my boyfriend owns a team. So her new boyfriend owns a team and doesn't play for one, don't have to be with another brain dead CTE athlete. So then people went crazy and then it got removed. And then she said, can anyone help? Something's going on with my Instagram

and I've been hacked. Liar. Here's my advice. Just own it. You shouldn't have said that. Definitely delete it and then ignore it. Ignore it, don't pretend it didn't happen. Don't ignore it.

You don't have to explain that a stranger broke into your house and ignore it. Ignore it, don't pretend it didn't happen, don't address it. Don't ignore it, you don't have to explain that you, a stranger broke into your house and wrote it, that the way they got hacked was just one snarky comment, and that you really are dating a owner of a team. That's where it then becomes a story. Had you not said you were hacked, then it would have been like, oh my God, what a bitchy thing,

and it would have just died. Why are people still using the hacking excuse? Like when has that ever, when has anybody have been like, oh my God, what a bitchy thing, and it would have just died. Why are people still using the hacking excuse? Like, when has that ever, when has anybody ever been like, oh yeah, somebody hacked into your phone and posted this on your social media account, and we believe that they would just intentionally want to put out this. I mean, the only way I think it happens is like,

where you get kicked out of your own account. Yeah. And now you've taken, I don't know, it's scary. But hackers come to like spam people. Like they wanna, they don't wanna like throw a shady comment just to like hurt your reputation. Like they wanna make money off of people. Like they're not gonna be shady

in the comment section just for fun. Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner spent Thanksgiving together with their kids. They served the homeless, they did all these fun things together. And JLo's always looking hot, showing up at places. And then they have three kids. And a lot of people do invite their ex to the Thanksgiving.

But she supposedly has a boyfriend, so I don't think they're getting back together. But Jennifer Garner is the nice mom that's like, listen, we'll invite your dad to Thanksgiving, and let's just make it nice for everybody and just pretend that everything's good. I think she probably wants to have a good relationship with Ben Affleck.

Even the reports that were saying she was trying to help him work on his relationship with Jay, though, I believe that. I think Jennifer Garner just is like that nice person that just wants to like, be like, listen, for the kids, it's better if you're at Thanksgiving and we have a nice relationship rather than us, you know, fighting with each other. Right, and then she's probably like,

why am I getting involved? Like, you know what? That's why I divorced him, because he is crotchety. And you got to see it full firsthand. And now you've moved on JLo and you can come to our house for Thanksgiving. Who cares?

Apple Martin made her special debut as she was spun around the dance floor with Chris. This is Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter. They did like a debutant ball in Paris and it was everywhere. And I will share this photo with you, but I had my own debutant ball in Paris and it was everywhere. And I will share this photo with you, but I had my own debutante ball. Did you? I did at the Pretty Woman Hotel right here. I think they changed the name. At the time it was the Beverly Wilshire. Yeah. Son Wilshire.

But there you go. Deb's are still making it happen. I don't know why it was in Paris, but I just guess it's like high society. But that is two exes hanging out together. They were both there for the event, Gwyneth and Chris Martin, so there you go. See, and not everybody needs to be a Brad and Angelina. No. Like that is messy. And the shots that they take and they get the kids involved

and then it becomes the headlines and the lawsuit. And he's sober now. He was just doing an interview and he's sober and looks amazing and whatever work he has done looks amazing but it's also, you know, a few years of sobriety can really make you cuter. And, you know, he's singing the praises and I think that's great too because what started

or what was the final straw was this alcohol allegedly fueled fight that happened on their private plane between Maddox and him. And so, you know, but it's kind of sad because he does not really seem to see any of his kids. I think he sees the one boy twin. Knox is the only one that has not gotten rid of Pitt, as his last name.

The Vivian, the girl twin, did. Shiloh did. Sahara did. Knox was just on a red carpet with Angelina. Oh, yeah, he looks so cute. They're so gorgeous. But then in the court filing, Brad said that that was Angelina trying to turn the kids against him and using the kids as like a... you know, an accessory to show that like the kids still like her.

I think it was in his response because they're fighting over the Marival lawsuit. The winery. The winery, yeah. Yes. So. Well that's lame because that is so sweet. Yeah, he's like, I want the Marival. But that might be the only kid that he's still talking to. So he's like, please don't let her turn you against me too.

She's like, let me put him on a red carpet and show everybody he likes me. Justin Timberlake had to cancel another concert because of his suffering back. Oh, what is happening with his back? I don't know, but this is what I think is going to happen. Is it really because of his back or people just don't are not into him anymore?

I think it's a lot of things. I think if you're not feeling great and the sales aren't there and you can whatever, but this is what I think is going to happen. Because he's supposedly having trouble with the wife. I predict he's going to go on a big tour with NSYNC. That would be smart. And then so it won't be all on his shoulders.

Yeah. He won't have to do the entire show. He won't have to sell the entire show. Yeah. And it'll take him back and be with guys and it'll be like the, you know, heiress tour but for middle-aged women and everybody will go. Listen, New Kids on the Block do it

and people, they sell out every stadium that they do. It's insane that they still tour every year and fill all those seats, but people love that nostalgia. I mean like- If he joined them too, then you'd have all the Justin Timberlake hits too. And that's somebody that people want. like people don't care about 98 degrees Like their show is not looking too hot, but it's cuz like 98 degrees and NSYNC very different

Yeah, and I think people want an NSYNC reunion and I think he just needs to like get over his ego Know that his reputation is not his reputation is not where it needs to be and this will bring him back in good graces Totally and they'll have so much fun, and Lance and everybody will just be killing it. They'll forget what he did to Brittany, and they'll move on. We already did. Yeah.

We already did. These stories end quick. Doesn't she have a part two of her book coming out? No, I didn't know that. I thought she had another part of her book coming out. No, the book is supposed to be turned into a movie. Ooh, I did just see the actress who's gonna play a young Madonna in the biopic.

I saw, oh, I don't know her name, but she looks just like her. It's like the curly hair and like her young, young, which she was like 26. And it's a very good match, but I forgot the name. So, last things, Real Housewife of Potomac. I did not watch the latest, latest one, but I watched the one before. Talk about an expensive party.

So we know that these girls don't make a lot of money. The professor had another birthday party that was on the water, that had the ladies dancing, the lady wearing a champagne skirt, which by the way, I would never want that because the only way I like champagne is if it's extremely cold. And now it's been sitting out. Yeah, that's like a trend now,

like the champagne walls, like all the champagne things. I hate any champagne wall, I want it in a bucket, cold as shit until you pour it in my glass. Any other way, it's disgusting. But it was such an expensive party. Did you see that party? It was everyone wore white. No, I didn't see it.

So she had a 40th birthday party, and it was like, it was like a wedding. It was 100 people, it was seated, it was just this whole thing, and she's like, and you know, they're like, hey, I'm on a TV show, I'm going to show off, I'm going to try. And in that one, kind of similar to DeRitte, Ashley Darby, who was married to the older Australian, which I'm pretty sure she was his employee at one point, and he was married

and whatever. And then, you know, she's hot and young and they get married and then she doesn't wanna do threesomes anymore. And then she has two kids and he said, well, we can mediate, but then you need to say the non-dispersing or the NDA, you can never talk about me. And she says, well, I'm not gonna sign that because that puts everybody at jeopardy.

Like, how do I know? I'm living my life, how do I know that someone's not gonna say something on that puts everybody at jeopardy. How do I know? I'm living my life. How do I know that someone's not gonna say something on camera and then be sued by you? So she's like, I'm not doing it. So I thought that was interesting, but she kind of was like, yeah, now I've outgrown him. It's not what I want. And he's like, you're not the girl.

Yeah, I'm not the girl that was under your desk blowing you at 23. Yeah, 23 and wants to have threesomes all the time. Yeah, that thought you were like the hottest thing, which is why guys, if you're going for those young girls, PK, I'm talking to you, when you think that some girl is acting like she's so into you and loves everything about you, just know that in 10 years,

you're not the same girl saying that they've, you know, are so excited to crawl into your desk and blow you at noon and then take your car to buy a new pair of shoes. And that shoe only has to be $700. That girl changes, especially when she gets on Housewives. I was explaining this, because I know this guy who is technically a sugar daddy,

and he's always been very interested in me. He's rich, boatloads. So we're talking gay sugar daddy world. Yes, and wanted to fly me on a private jet to come spend the weekend with him. And I've known him for so many years, and he's such a sweet guy. And you're like, I only ever get to bring my straight sugar

mama. Heather, hi. I wish I didn't have so much pride and would actually take him up on those offers. But so finally, he was in LA, and he's like, let me take you to dinner. Because you were not attracted to him in that way. Not in that way.

He's like somebody that I would come to. He was my Tom Girardi. I would come to him for business advice or pick his brain about things. But I didn't want to, you know. Be his boyfriend. Yeah. Only to now find out he came to LA recently,

and we went to dinner. And because I was like, you know what? I'll let you take me to dinner like let's go somewhere nice Yeah, and so we went to a nice dinner and he was telling me about his current boyfriend who's Younger than me like I'm age. I've aged out of the 20s where I can be a cute little sugar Baby, and I'm like shit. I now I have a couple of regrets But so I seen his boyfriend his boyfriend's very cute, but they don't have sex. And the boyfriend, so they're just in a relationship, they're in a partnership together.

And the boyfriend gets to be the arm candy, the Erica Jane, let's go and walk the red carpets and do all the things. And like, you get to be pretty by my side. And then he gets to like, you know, fool around and do his other things. But the whole situation was very bizarre. Cause I was also thinking, I was like, well, shit,

I could have had the house and the jet and I didn't have to bank it. Like, why did I not get that disclosure? Whenever I hear stories about like hookers that were like, well, I just go to dinner. And I was like, I could be a hooker if I just got to go to dinner. I'm a great conversationalist.

Completely, I was like, wait, you should have given me the terms and conditions upfront and then I would have absolutely signed that contract, put me on the jet, everything. I would have la la kented the whole shit conditions up front. And then I would have absolutely signed that contract, put me on the jet, everything. I would have Lala Kented the whole shit out of it. Had a beautiful dinner and then high fived and went to your own room and got on her phone and watched Tik Tok. Yeah. And like, so I'm like, so I'm out to dinner with you and I'm probably

expected to bang you after this. And he gets to be in the house. I have to be in the hotel room. He gets to be in the house on the jet in Italy on vacation. Like I was like, shit, I got the short end of that stick. Well, when he told you that, what did you say? Did you say, well, what is your plan? Are you going to get rid of him in a year? Or like, what is the plan that, you know, if you're not getting affection from him?

I told him up front, I was like, I don't think this situation is good for you. I was like, now I care about you, Tom Girardi. Like, let me give you some advice. Because he was also telling me that he pays for everything But then the boyfriend has like a side nugget of money that he's building himself that he's keeping aside that he won't use And I'm like well that means he's gonna leave you at some point if he already has his cash stored aside Yeah, he's using all of your money Then like at some point he's gonna dip out and he's, well, if he finds somebody that's richer than me,

that's willing to take care of him more than me, then he can leave me for it. And I was like, but then what happens in 20 years when he does leave you? You're not gonna find another 22 years? Well, maybe you will. Yeah. It's always gonna be, you know.

Especially in this town. In this town. Thank you so much for coming. You're so great. We had so much fun. And tell everybody where they can get more of Zach. Yeah, I mean, all over the internet, Zach Peter, just playing Zach.

No Filter with Zach Peter is my podcast. It's a daily podcast. Talk Bravo, pop culture, all the news. Well, it was great. And I'm glad that you are not off on some jet, because then you couldn't be here with me today. I know. Listen, that's how you'll know when I have a sugar daddy is what I stop showing up to podcasts.

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