Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Russell Brand Allegations, Tom Girardi’s Competency and Real Housewives’ Futures with Zack Peter

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

Tom Girardi had a competency hearing. Drew Barrymore made a cringe video, but then pulled the plug on the return of her talk show after receiving backlash. Bethenny Frankel’s middle-class cosplay backfired when she added saving retail employees into the mix. The Sister Wives have some regrets, and Comedian Russell Brand is accused of sexual assault by numerous victims. Then, I’m joined by Zack Peter, who attended Erika Jayne’s Vegas show and gives us the scoop. Tom Girardi had a competency hearing. RHOBH’s Kyle and Morgan Wade may be on DWTS. We dig into the new RHONY and RHSLC, and what they could do on RHOC next season with a possibly sober Shannon. Enjoy! GET TICKETS FOR ALL UPCOMING SHOWS! www.heathermcdonald.net Vote For Juicy Scoop: realitytelevisionawards.com/vote Get extra juice on Patreon: patreon.com/juicyscoop Subscribe on Youtube: youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Follow me on Instagram: instagram.com/heathermcdonald Follow me on TikTok: tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Find Zack: justplainzack.com Listen to Zack’s Podcast “No Filter”: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-filter-with-zack-peter Subscribe to Zack on all Youtube: youtube.com/@justplainzack Follow Zach on Instagram: instagram.com/justplainzack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I have some new merch coming, some discounts available. It's all is going to be there on my website at Heather McDonnell.net. Drew Barrymore, the show is now back on hold. She has decided not to bring the Drew Barrymore show back and be a quote unquote scab and break the picket lines. Now, what was interesting over the weekend is, you know, Guy Brannum, who was on my show Thursday, he explained it very well. Why it was important, a lot of people that aren't in the business don't know, and even people who are in the business didn't really understand, why was it

wrong for her to do it, how did these other shows do it and not get the criticism. And he explained it really well. So go back to that show if you want to hear just a really intelligent way of explaining it. But she was getting a lot of criticism from myself and Guy Brannem as well. And it's hard, you know, Ross Matthews is her co-host on a lot with her. He's a friend of mine. But I didn't think it was a good idea that the show went back. And I didn't think she was somebody that needed it. You know, she has Garnier hair and she

has furniture and she has, you know, these really cute like toaster ovens and air friars and stuff that you could buy in the Drew bear more kitchen line at Walmart. Like this isn't her only stream of income. She isn't her only stream of income. She isn't this single mother that has to do this show. And then of course, but what about the rest of the people that work on the show? But it's about the bigger picture. The bigger picture will be good if we can just hold off, get this strike resolved, and everybody can go back to work.

And it wasn't looking good for her. But then she went and did that apology, not apology video over the weekend in which she then pulled. Not a lot of makeup. She found a part of her house that looked very subtle, much like Ashton and Kuch asking Asha and Mela did. They did against a wood like a plain wood wall when they talked about their thing, which I'm going to get to it a second. So you always pick like out of a sad background. Don't have a lot of makeup.

But she had probably read so many comments and was just like, no, I'm going to double down and say why I'm doing this. And she's like, and I've been through a lot. I've been through ups and downs. And this will just be another one of those times. I haven't had an easy life, and it wasn't a great speech. It wasn't like she was really explaining why she was doing it. She was trying to say, I'm getting all this shit, and it sucks.

But I just like, but I've never, ever intended to hurt anyone. I don't think anybody really goes, you know what? I think this is going to hurt a lot of people and I'm pretty thrilled about it. I mean, most of the times when you hurt somebody, it really wasn't your intention, especially when it's something like this and entertainment. So the comments were awful. They're like, Drew, stop. This is wrong.

You're not making it any better. And she kept saying, this is not a PR team. I don't have a bunch of people. So I don't know. Maybe she really just did this in her kitchen by herself with no help. And that's why it wasn't great. She took it down within, I don't know, a couple of hours.

And then yesterday announced, no, I heard the backlash. I am not going to go forward with the show, which is the right thing to do. So listen, I've been hit with a lot of criticism and you want to defend yourself and you want to explain yourself. And you're like, I'm just going to do a video. But the times that I've thought about doing it, thank God I didn't post it because I literally, I'm smart enough to realize how things can be picked apart. And also I all I during what I was going through the last couple weeks, I did do one where I was like,

this isn't true. And let me explain this, this, this, and this. And I did it. And I had this hat on because I had no makeup and I had this hat on, because I had no makeup on, and I had this hat on in these glasses. And thank God I recorded it and just held it for a second. And then I imagined all the funny creators that I probably, that I follow, and that I'd probably see mocking the apology video, wearing a similar hat,

and being like, woohoo, and saying, oh, now she's, you know, spiraling, now she's losing it. So it's interesting because I think a couple of years ago, the way to do it was to immediately get out that apology video with just very minimal makeup, like just maybe just like a tinted moisturizer and like a great t-shirt. And now I feel like people are you know are able to see that too and that

can be a mistake as well which I'm going to get into. So good for her. Hopefully this will end soon and the show will be back and you know there we go. Bethany Franco okay she got herself in a pickle as well. This is the Zen Blonde brought up a really great point. Let me tell you what happened with Bethany Franco. As you know, Bethany Franco in the last couple years has done these beauty reviews. So she shows up at TJ Maxx and films herself being like, so I'm at TJ Maxx and you know what, there's this really nice woman, she's my friend, she always compliments me on all the makeup that I buy here.

But sometimes I just use like a little bit of it, like I just use some of the gloss or some of the makeup and then I'm like, you know what, I really don't want this color, I really don't want this color but this color might work on someone with different skin color than mine or whatever and they probably can't afford it

because they just, they work at TJbacks. I don't know. So what I do is I go and I make a big bag like this and then I go to my friend who works here at TJback and she's got the camera and she's walking through and she's like, hi, there's my friend, there's my friend, what's your name? And the woman's like,

Kwan Swela, hello? And she's like, yeah, the woman's like, Consuela, hello? And she's like, yeah, Consuela, hi. Look, I don't want any of this makeup that I bought here, but I know that you were like envious when you were ringing me up, so I wanna get this to you. And then the woman is like, oh, I can't,

I can't take things. That's like a bribe, I work for a big corporation. And she's like, what? No, you should be able to take it. You should be able to take it. I will talk to them. I bet that you'd freckle on the number one housewife that ever lived. I'm the greatest.

I'm doing the, I'm helping people all over the world with be strong. I'm doing what it takes. I'm doing reality reckoning. I am exposing the fact that Bravo has completely exploited people by putting cameras in their faces. Do you understand? Do you understand? I can get you to, I can make it okay that you can take this back of a used makeup that I don't want. I'm gonna make sure you can take it right now. You can take it.

I know I, I know the listen to me. Okay. She posts that. And I, and I think the first girl I saw was like, let me tell you why this is wrong. A, she didn't know the woman's name. The biggest thing I problem with, and I've talked about it. I talked about with Brandon and Julie. I don't like when people do acts of kindness and shove a camera on someone's face and kind of exposes that you probably need this act of kindness because you're not living as well as I am. I don't know why you can't just do the act of kindness

and maybe talk about it after and say, hey, you know what I did today? It was fucking awesome. I went to Walmart and I said, hey, what's on layaway right now? Oh, we've got three things from this woman on layaway. You know what? I'm gonna pay that off.

Will you please let her know that I paid off her layaway? I don't know who she is, whatever. We don't show the woman. That's a cool thing that people can do. Imagine how great that woman will feel when she comes in and she thinks she owes $80 and it's been paid off or whatever. There's things that you can do that you don't have to shove a camera in some of his face, but that's not how she works. So she got a lot of criticism for that and then she doubled down and did another interview. Another interview, she did another video where she's like, oh, so apparently I'm getting canceled because people don't want a bag of perfectly good makeup. You know,

I get a bunch of free makeup and I get a bunch of different shades and I don't need three concealers. I only need one concealer in my shade. So you know what I do? I make like real, I separate them. So like each person gets like a concealer, like a really great moisturizer. And I just, I give them out to people that I film. And apparently that makes me look like, you know, like I'm the white savior. So I don't, I don't really get it.

I don't know why I'm doing it. She still doesn't get it. And in one of the comments, someone said, why would you think that someone working at TJ Maxx would even want used makeup that's open and not in their packages and stuff. And she's like, she Bethany wrote because she works at TJ Maxx.

Again, you don't know anyone's situation, you don't know if someone is doing that so they can get out of the house as retired. Still, that doesn't mean they want you to use makeup. Doesn't, and again, don't put it on camera. That's why I think you say, don't put it on camera. I've said it over and over again. I don't like it when people do it with their kids.

I just saw a really interesting, I really saw a really interesting TikTok of how this girl played two parts. And she's acting like she's like a maybe a 16 year old child and somebody walks up to her and was like, oh my God, I loved your family's vlog. I remember when your mom used to show you shitting in the corner because you were so scared but you still had a diaper on that was so cute.

How's your brother? Did he ever recover from that skin issue that he had yet, Exama, right? And then what is going on? I know that you got your period. Did you figure out how to use the tampon yet? And it's a sketch. It's not real. But this is what is going to be happening to people that have exposed their kids like

this. And I really, it's weird. And you know, it's weird. And you know, I we watch it. I just think we've got to see how fucking wrong this is. What we're doing to kids and what we're doing to people, unsuspecting people that work at places, not asking for their permission. And the one thing that the Zen Blonde said in the she goes, not the queen of reality reckoning, meaning Bethany, filming innocent retail employees without their consent.

The hypocrisy of her trying to do this movement of reality reckoning saying, my God, look at how these people have been abused by Bravo. You know, these people sign up for the reality show. They've seen the reality show. They sign contracts. They can have lawyers look at contracts. Yes, do they sometimes look like an asshole when they drink and dance, you know, dance

to the trace of megas or whatever or get mad at somebody or slip and fall? Yeah, that happens. But they're not just working their retail job and you then show them on one point to your 1.5 million followers. And you still don't get it. So, this makeup, I am not giving it any more. It's in this bag because it is stuff I don't like, but then I think, well, I might want it. So, it's in another drawer.

Put this like a badge, it's just like, hi, just like a dirty makeup brush like it is insane. So not a great day for her. Let's talk about sister wives. Okay, so it's so, I'm been watching it. You know I love it. This is about Cody and his four wives and I just want to talk about a couple things. Mary is hopefully now leaving to right now. He's stuck with just Robin or Robin stuck with just him. But one of the things that's crazy is how awful I've said

before they've been on the show for 17 years and Janelle wife number two is now living in a really tiny average apartment that's jam packed with stuff. And Christine, who also left what's nice is they have a really nice friendship and all their kids get along. And they're kind of like breaking off to their own like family, which is really nice. But anyway, they're talking there

and she and Danielle is just saying, like I have financially I got fucked because they took all the money and Robin bought a house. So now Robin, who's the only legal wife owns the house with Cody and Danielle is renting. And I guess just living off of the money she gets from sister wise and who knows how much longer that's going to go on though I hope it never ends because once they're really not a family, even though we suspected they're unhappy all this time, though I hope it never ends, because once they're really not a family, even though we suspected they were unhappy all this time, now we're, you know, what are

we going to be watching? What's interesting is they talk about when we went public, that their family was so much better when the kids were all little and they all raised the kids together because it takes a village. I think they really liked having the extra help of all the other moms and doing these things together and the kids all playing and bonding together. And that was all before they went on camera on TLC and how since then, you know, the cracks in the relationship and just growing up and people moving on and him just spending so much

more time with Robin. And Robin's like, look, I guess he spent more time at my house, but and then he's like, yeah, I spent more time at Robbins' house because she had an office for me and she had a place for me to park my car in the garage and the other girls didn't really make room for him. And I'm like, oh my God, if so, if you're a sister wife, the way if you really want him around more, all you have to do is like get the softest couch,

get him a lazy boy, make sure that his food is there. You probably have to be the best cook and you probably have the nicest bed or the quietest room. Maybe you get the blackout blinds. You make it that that's where he wants to sleep the most. If you don't want him coming around, but you still hanging out with your sister wives, then, then yeah, get like, don't have very uncomfortable furniture, have like the shittiest TV, have like the crappiest food, never good food, like I just thought that would be. I mean, I don't think anything this even has to do with being good in the sac or not. It's just like, who had the nicest

home and who made it most pleasant for when I got there? So I thought that was interesting. I always think it's really weird that they're always filming outside. For a while it was because of COVID. Now I think it's because, then I thought it was because the girls are hoarders and they don't want, especially Robin, to show all their crap in the house.

Now I think they do it outside because the camera men are like, we just don't want to set up lights. We don't want to set up lights. We don't want to clear an area. Let's just hey let's just park it outside. I'll wear a parker parka and let's just film these two women bitching about Cody and how weird he is and how neither of them really want to be around him anyway. So there you go with that. Ashton Kutcher, a little ketchup on Ashton Kutcher. He has, you know, as you know, he did the letters with Mela supporting Danny Masterson before he went to prison, hoping to give a more lenient sentence. Got a lot of criticism for that.

for that. But now he has stepped down from his role at this, he is stepping down from the positions on Thorn, which is an anti-child sex abuse organization that he started with his ex-wife, Demi Moore, back in 2012. He stepped down from it. He said, victims of sexual abuse have been historically silenced. And the character statement I submitted is yet another painful instance of questioning victims who are brave enough to share their experiences. So he's spent a couple days, he regretted writing the letter, he regretted doing the video, trying to look like he was poor and sad. And, um, that's why people and myself, they should take my advice,

should think about just saying yes when someone requests that they make a statement or do a video about something that they don't have full knowledge of. Being a public figure, you sometimes want to say, you know what, I don't know enough about that. Let me spend more time looking on in the meantime. Is there another way I could help you?

Could I maybe promote your telephone or whatever, but I'm nested out comfortable doing that video. There's things you can do for people. So I, he stepped down from that, which is unfortunate because I, he probably was doing good work for it, but it's probably the right thing that he steps down. And other sponsorships that he has, they have state silence. So we don't know if he's going to lose anything on that. We'll see.

The other question is, will Scientology get rid of Danny Masterson? Will they expel him from it? I don't know. I mean, he's probably not a lot of use to them when he goes and does 30 years in prison. So probably they will. Now, they'll do the PR movement. Oh, the PR statement. Oh, now we just don't want anything to do with Danny Masterson, even though they were the one that were such a big part of this case in silencing the victims, but watch. They'll be like, no, we want nothing to

do with them now. Now that he's in prison, just like Gen Sean, no one wants anything to do with Gen Sean, which you can't give them good TV when she can invite them to a fancy dinner in Vegas. Do you think they're visiting you're in prison? No, they're not, but she's hanging out with Elizabeth Holmes, so that's okay. Russell Brand came out the night before this explosive article came out about how he has sexually assaulted

over four women, three or which are remaining anonymous. But the night before it came out, he did a statement to his millions of followers saying like this isn't true. And I think they're coming after me because I'm such a trailblazer in what I discuss. And this is like, you know, just to silence me. So a lot of people are talking about that first and they're like, but know, just silence me. So a lot of people are talking about that first and they're like, but wait, where is this?

So now we know more about the women that have come forward. And it's a really, really disturbing story. As you know, he was married to Katie Perry for a few years. And there's, and we never knew why they got divorced, but they did get divorced after 14 months. And Katie did say in an interview that now people are kind of exploring, she did say back in 2013 she did an interview with Boge and she said about her marriage that she had

a controlling ex-husband and it was a really hurtful marriage. And she also said that she found out the truth about the comedian and that's why she left. But she never said what the truth was. So people wonder had she heard about these things because now we're finding out that Russell Brandt's TV execs on a show he had allegedly considered removing any female staffers so that they wouldn't be assaulted by him.

This is from the New York Post. So, in this investigation that has been going on, he's been accused of rape and sexual abuse between 2006 and 2013. The claims are part of a joint investigation by the Times of London and Channel 4 Dispatches and Brand has denied these allegations. But all of this is coming up. One of the victims was only 16 at the time, which is legal consent, I guess in England, but he was 31 and he called her the

child, and then there's text messages from one of the assault victims named Nadia, in which he was like, oh, wrote her at three in the three third in the morning, definitely referring to what went on and saying that was horrible of me and it was selfish. She says she was assaulted and so that does kind of make a lot of sense that then he would send that text and say that. So it's all very bad for him, but excellent that these women are brave enough to come out. And we'll see what happens with that. Last story before I bring out our guest, Hugh Jackman and his wife have broken up after

27 years of marriage. People are always very surprised when a couple that's been married that long get divorced. But it happens. Kyle and Mauricio are somewhat, I guess are separated. We talk more about that in the interview, but you know, whether it's seven years or 27 years, people live long and sometimes they don't want to live

with you. All right, now you guys, for my very fun interview, we get into it. Lots of fun gossip with Zach Peter. I have a fun guest who's very knowledgeable in the Housewife and Pop Culture World. Please welcome for the first time, Zach Peter from No Filter with Zach Peter.

Hello, good to see you again. Good to see you Heather. Thank you for having me. And you're reminding me of how we originally met so long ago. Yeah, I used to work for Genium McCarthy's foundation helping kids with autism. You obviously did a lot of different fundraising events for us. I know you and Josh Wilt the whole crew used to come out and do comedy shows to raise money for for Genie's foundation. So we had met years ago. I mean, like, I think there was a San Francisco event. San Francisco. Those went

to Lafactory. Yes. Okay. Awesome. Yes. Well, I'm, you know, I, I don't think I put all that together, but I always knew that you look familiar and everything. And then when you put it together, now I see you at the event. Yeah. From 10 years ago. But obviously, you do great work in this field. You feel as if we I can medical profession. And let's get into it because you just came from Erica, James, show, which is at the Hard Rock. Where is it at?

House of Blues. House of Blues. House of Blues. Did you go opening night? I went opening night and Friday and Saturday. And give us a scoop. I mean, I know everyone's shading it. I know it's not in through a little shade too, but I thought the show was great. We had such a blast.

So we went Friday night, which was press night. So I brought a couple of my boys out. We did a whole Vegas trip. Good. And so we did Friday night, which was just, we came to see the show and then I got a table for Saturday night, because I wanted to come and support. But I mean, the show was good. She did, you know, she did her material girl coming on out and then she did a lot of her hits.

It's expensive, Jimmy. It's expensive, Jimmy. And her new lip gloss song. Have you heard lip gloss? No. Or drip, drop. Oh, drip, drop. You have to listen to it. It's about. Okay. It's the new experience's about how many dancers,

how many people are in the show total approximately? She has these three really hot dudes that are kind of the main attraction outside of her. Women 11 and gay men 11 because the men are out there grinding on the stripper pole with her. Then she has a couple of other dancers that are in and out throughout the show. How long is the show?

It's about two hours and she actually sings in a lot of it. And she sings throughout the whole thing, but she does some archipelago. You mean, you don't think it's just the singing over it while she's dancing? Because I think it might be a little bit of both, but there are some moments where she really does sing in her actual voice.

Because I mean, listen, I've come out to do stand up and I moved around a little to a dance. And I'm like fucking out of breath for the first five minutes of a joke. So like, I never understood how people expected, you know, major stars to be like dropping it hot and everything and coming up and still being able to belt. So I know a lot of stars when they perform in dance are seeing like along with the track. Yeah. Or whatever. But that's cool.

So now I think they only, now how much weight do you think she's lost? Oh my God. I mean, at least like 20 pounds. She's tiny. But I mean, seeing her on stage with her body looking so bangin' and being what, she's now 50. Like, that is insane. That she is just like, out there dancing

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And it was by a musical director of somebody she knew back in the day when she was performing. So she like, got in touch with him. And he's like, we can do the same thing for you. And that's when she was having fun in doing this. I'm sure it wasn't profitable. We know it cost a lot from the Amics, Fills, and stuff to have this career.

Then she got on housewives. And I was when the scandals happened with her husband. I was like, will the gays and people ever come in droves and cheer her on because she had this stink on her? Was she involved? Did she know? Now I feel more and more people are like, and I never really knew for sure, I just always sort of explored it. Chances are she was the wife that was told,

spend carte blanche. She did, for the last 10 years, they probably weren't boning. She knew he had mistresses, people knew he had mistresses, people he had lunch with at the at the Mortons or whatever it was, all this stuff. And so I really, I applaud, I like, I applaud her for putting this together and going for it. And the fact that the tickets are inexpensive, welcome to selling tickets people. It is not easy. But

the tickets that people are talking about are standing room tickets. They're not like the tables or the feeds at the house. It's literally to just stand to get into the door and stand by the bar, which the venue is going to want to bring people in because they're going to buy from the bar or they're going to buy food. And I say, and I was like, that's great, great for you. If you're curious and you're in Vegas and you guys are having a batch of up party and you don't have Tickets to go to anything else. How great that you can go for seven bucks who the fuck cares? Yeah, I do wonder though When she was doing it because being some of them, you know I travel and I perform and have for a long time and

You know you do get strategic about where to go and how big of a venue and how many nights you can do because you want it to sell out and everything. In my opinion, I do think this might have been too many nights, too close to BravoCon in the same city. And also, I think it also goes to show that as big as we think, the BravoCon world is, nobody is going to see Erica Jane that isn't familiar with Real House of Beverly Hills. Like no one's sitting in their hotel room looking at one of those magazines

and being like, oh, there's a tiger show or oh, let's see, you know, this magician is because we feel like seeing a magician or Barry Manila or whatever. The only people going to that, otherwise they'll go to a more traditional like Vegas show. Yeah, I was surprised that it was as full as it was opening Weekend Considering Beyoncé

was performing across the street. So we had a lot of the Beyoncé audience there. I mean, from what I've seen, the room is still consistently full. Yeah. I think like the tickets that everybody was talking about were like for the tickets in December though. Yeah.

So I mean, people people always looking for something, but like, you know, she's always been nice to me. And whatever happens. And at the beginning, I felt like when the stuff came out about the sham divorce, I was never like an Erica Stan. I was like, okay, maybe this does look a little fishy. Like what is this?

And then once you actually put on your thinking cap and do a little critical thinking, you're like, okay, she's trophy wife number three. Like how much is Tom Dyerty coming home and while they're out eating it, having their steaks in her is like, yeah, babe, this is paid for by the orphans and widows. Like it's just not disclosing any of that information.

Like I think the longer they were married, the more their relationship kind of started to sever. And we did see how when she would try to get involved in the conversation, there's on him being like that dick that's like all my friendish, Erica. You know, so like I believe when she was like, what's up with all these lassoos tab,

he'd be like, Erica stay out of it, it's all fine. It was just you know, like that's why I think she was like, all right, like, well, I don't want to read a bunch of papers either. Like, and why would you ask questions? He's a powerful lawyer and Los Angeles. Right. And also when she always said, I would have a pre-nap.

He's gonna destroy me anyway if I ever try to leave. Like, she knew that. She knew that she was sleeping with the devil. Yeah. And that's why she wanted to have this whole other life with her gay dancers and fun because she was done being the board chick shopping and going in Europe and she was like go take your mistress like

I don't care. I'm glad I don't have to like hop on the penguin. I don't care. She's upright. Okay, so let's talk about the um competency hearing. So he had his competency hearing and this has been so juicy. So just to update you guys, his defense basically is his people are like he's not competent. He has Alzheimer's dementia, all this stuff from a combination of just being old, but also when you know we got the car accident in the snow or whatever that story was. But this car accident. But there's moments where he seems very competent, one being that he can sit there for eight hours and not get tired or not fall asleep or not get agitated, like maybe someone

that is struggling with competency. And the other part was the fuck you, who did you say fuck you to? To the prosecutor. I think, but I think he said it like subtly and then the prosecution was like your honor We would like the record to reflect that he just said fuck you to me and then everybody And go like was like whoa, I don't think he blurted it out I think it was like a you know a little jab that he was trying to throw on the table

and it does seem like You know the way he was showing up in court with like the dish-shuffled sweater and the flutters. With the flutters. He went flippers. Like, they didn't take his clothes, you know? Or even if they did, go to TJ Maxx and buy him a fitted blazer. Like, come on.

But even if he was losing it, he had somebody that's taking care of him. I think, but yes. But even if he was losing it and they were somebody that's taking care of it. I think, but yes, but even if he was losing it and they were like, Tom, you know, because I have friends and I know people in my life too that started to lose it as the age. And you could say like, um, Mr. Roddy, we're going to court today. And he'd be like, get me my vest gray suit. Like even if he was out of it, he wouldn't be in this grumpy thing. But does it be who?

Erica. And I don't know the answer to that. wouldn't be in this gruffy thing. But does it behoof, Erica? And I don't know the answer to that. So let me get your opinion for him to be incompetent or to be competent and lying about being incompetent. I think it's easier for her to believe that he's incompetent. Because if he's not truly incompetent and he's playing everybody, then he's playing

her as well. And I think the deception and the betrayal is a lot deeper. So I think it's easier to just believe he really has Alzheimer's. He really has dementia. He's really lost it. And he doesn't remember what he did to me. And that's why he's able to keep up. But legally, I think it's better that he's lying about being incompetent because yes, because then it's like, no one should

believe anything he said at all, including myself. I was just another thing that he collected. And I was just another thing to make himself look good. And I, um, yeah, that's what I think. I agree with it from the legal perspective, but I think people also forget that like, she was still married to them and she did kind of save her and give her a life that she didn't have prior that I think there's this weird, like maybe it's trauma bonding or something, but I think there is like a weird love that she does still have for me.

Oh yeah, like that. I don't even think she can go to that place because I feel like the betrayal, like think about it. Your whole life was spent on the backs of orphans and widows. I mean, obviously there are many other, you know, victims and cases involved, but it's just like when that's what your life has become,

is like I had this entire career, and you know, now I'm attached to this whole embezzlement scandal, like it's awful to think about. You know what I predicted that did not come true, which says something about the ladies of Beverly Hills in a good way. Is I, when I interviewed her, I was surprised that she didn't, that her child was being raised by the dad on the East Coast. Now, the proof is in the pudding they have a wonderful relationships today. And also, I wouldn't like it if she was criticized for that, because that's very unfair to women

and the standards of people and women. And obviously, the sun turned out wonderful. You know, like he's a cop, he's got a great relationship with both parents, but I was always like, as awful as how so I was can be, if she, before this, was gonna get know, cut at it, I thought for sure there'd be a moment. Maybe you know who it would have come from is if she'd cross Lisa Rennie, but her and Lisa Rennie were always close. But if she would have cross Lisa Rennie,

I believe that something Lisa Rennie would have dropped subtly. Like, oh, well, you know, when you're not raised, when you aren't raising your hits or something like that, but I'm glad that they never did. And I think what happened was she did get with Tom Gerardi and she wasn't good enough mother to know that like the dad, he's doing great there, but we also have the money that I can visit him as much as I want. He can come out here as much as he wants. Tom was, and I think Tom was also like,

hey, I'm not going to little league games. I'm not going to play daddy to your kid, but like, he can go to the best schools, whatever. Yeah, and be here as the MX. Yeah, but that was one thing that she has sort of kept private, which she showed why not who cares. Yeah. Yeah, I think she wants to protect her son

as much as possible, which I understand. I also don't think he cares to be involved in it. Like he's like, he's like, my mom can go pat the place. Like, I'm good. I'll be proud of her for my baby. Yeah, he's like 30 by now. Yeah. Okay, dancing with the stars, speaking of pathopist.

So we know we have Mauricio. Did you see he has new teeth? Yes. He's another one bite. Teeth, new ass. Another one bites the dust. No pun intended. Look and trim and everything.

Feeling thirsty. And now, I'm sure that this is happy. According what? I said I'm sure his mistress is happy. Tell of what, now, what do you know about all the rumors and what have you heard about the years of him?

I've heard things of all persuasion and all types along the spectrum of sexuality, enjoying Mr. Mauricio. Listen, I think he's, you know, a very primal man. Yes. Very primal man and that loves what primal men love, you know, and he indulges in whatever floats the boat for the night Okay, so we are okay, so Meanwhile while he's twirling around in the dance studio with his

Dancing partner which often oftentimes that sparks romance. Because your bodies are close, you're spending eight hours together, you're so close trying to win. You have emotions, your feet hurt, and you are bodies that have never been trimmer and more hot. So a lot of romance has happened then. Brian Austin Green is with his dancing partner and they're married and have kids, whatever. So while he's twirling around Kyle Richards is twirling around in

Paris with Morgan Wade, I'm gonna make you love my filming, the documentary that the whole world has been asking for for a decade. Unbeknownst to the fact that nobody even knew who Morgan Wade was up until what six, eight weeks ago. So, but now we need to know about her life. And what is it like to get up at 5 a.m. and catch a flight to Paris and work on your music and get a new tattoo. And I mean, I... Do you think that she's, this is a lesbian and lower relationship? Are you convinced that they're...

I have gone back and forth so many times. Yeah. I have thought, yes. Then I thought she was dropping crumbs with the photos, you know, being that she's an experienced person, Kyle, she learned for niece, she knows what she's doing to get knowing that the fans would be like, who is this girl putting her on the lap and all that? Yeah, making me a Catholic crowd.

And I kind of was like, yeah, then when they broke up, I was like, maybe, maybe they are scissors. Then when they were like, no, we're not really broken up. I was like, okay, this was for PR. Then I did perfect a long time ago. I'm like, I think she has a stake in this girl's music. And she tried to be a producer before with the American woman.

And unfortunately that didn't work though. I know a lot of people really liked the show, but it didn't last. I mean, well, if American woman didn't last Morgan Wade's not gonna save her producing career. And yeah, and I just think just like everybody else, that all of a sudden has watched way too many documentaries since COVID.

She was like, now I want to be that girl with a baseball hat and the documentary and I think she has such an interesting story that's going to involve, you know, I think there was a cancer situation like there's lots of things that they bond together. And I think that was her goal and she got the funding for it. And, and, but I think she maybe doesn't want to totally now reveal that there's romance because people were critical of the May December romance, the age difference. Yeah. Um, I mean, the age difference. Yeah. I mean, but come on though, as somebody that works in entertainment, would you ever be like,

let me make a documentary about this woman's life, like the interest in it, like it's so deep that it's like, it's fucking weird, like it's like, and we're not talking about how weird I get it, we're not trying to out in, but anybody has her own journey and whatever, if she wants to, Cesar Morgan, then let them be Cesar sisters. Nobody's gonna judge them for that, but like it's weird and I mean I have lesbian friends and they want nothing to do with me sexually. Yeah. So I do think you can

Just like a god a straight guy can have a gay friend like I do think it doesn't mean, you know However, and however, Andy and John mayorer, but again, it can happen. But like, I'm just, I think she wants us to think at whether it's happening or not. And I think it would be a wasted opportunity if it wasn't. It's like going to an all-you-can-eat buffet and not trying everything. Not trying the sushi. Yes. not trying everything. Not trying the sushi.

Yes. I think. I think. So I think Kyle's never, as we saw from the psychic on Beverly Hills back at the dinner from hell, I don't think Kyle was ever emotionally fulfilled by Mauricio. I think that they kind of were just partners and that obviously there was the sexual chemistry,

but I don't think the relationship ever went deep because we've never really seen the relationship deep on Beverly Hills throughout all these seasons. We've never seen them have conflicts or fight or, you know, we've never seen the relationship. I played it really well. And it was one of the things that I always said, I always said, you know, for someone who has a family and a husband, Kyle really comes off great and unscathed in it. And then people started to notice in the last couple of years, you know, she doesn't

put herself out there. She's always the one that's kind of like, not necessarily storing the pot, but acting like she cares about other people. So then people started to see it, and she started to lose a little bit of popularity in things. And I think that, I think they had a great marriage in growing together and building this together.

And I think that they had a sexual fun relationship too. But her mom, the Kathy Hilton, big Kathy, not Kathy Hilton, Kathy Richards, the big Kathy, always taught the girls. When I interviewed Kyle, she was like, my mom taught me that you make that the home, the nicest place your husband has been all day. So even if you can't cook,

you like put some garlic in a pan with some butter, you get take out and you put it in beautiful dishes, and you light the candles and you have a martini-waving and like that kind of thing. And I think she was a really great wife and homemaker and mom, but yeah, you get to a place and you know, she's such a big star on her own right now.

The girls are doing great with him on the thing. And I don't know if they'll actually get divorced because there's so much to actually split up. And I think they're always going to remain a family. Yeah. And I think a lot of people now, unfortunately, when they get divorced, when the kids are older, they can remain a family. They can be at that one-year-old grandchild's first birthday together and they don't care if they can it's a beautiful thing

Yeah, because they just don't want to be married anymore And I think the fact that he's like oh Morgan's great. She's great whether yeah, he's joking off to her Yeah, I don't think I just don't think he cares no I don't think he cares because I don't think the love with that kind of love that would be jealousy. Yeah, I think it was just like, it was always very surface. It was always very sexual. It was never very deep, which is why I think now

that she's gone sober. And I think now she's going through some sort of identity crisis. True, which is great. She sees Beverly Hills ending for her. She's not gonna do this for another five years. Yeah, and she knows that like that's not gonna be there forever. The kids are all grown.

Mauricio is off doing the agency and he has his reality show that I think she's trying to figure out what the next chapter of her life Is gonna be and I think she happened to find Morgan Wade and they have a really deep emotional connection that she's never had with Mauricio So I don't think that they're really scissoring But I do think that there is a really deep emotional bond My fear though is that Morgan Wade might be catching feelings because this is a tale as old as time within the gay community. With Lesley. You have your straight friend, you, you know, your gay and then kind of develop feelings for your straight friend and they're not going to develop feelings for you because they're very much straight but there is just this deep connection and then

it does get a little confusing and then somebody gets hurt in the end. So I think that Kyle's maybe playing with fire. Let me ask you something. With gay men, I know a lot of gay men where sometimes the two gay best friends have never hooked up. Sometimes they have. And I find there's a lot of gay couples that surprisingly unlike heterosexual couples are able to then continue to be friends. Yeah. Okay. Men, gay men. Now, Lesbians, we hear that, you know, it's the joke of they meet the next date as the you haul. And then when they break up, it's, you really are dealing with two women

and the emotions are double. Yeah. And the emotions for men are then double less emotion. You know what I mean? So why, why you really can't compare lesbians, gays, or had a relationship in general, you can't compare some things you can't compare. So, yeah, so who knows, I would hope that

whether it was romantic or not, it'd be really great that they, if they could remain friends and she's done a lot for Morgan's career, nobody knew of her and if this can get her in a different position of media power and being an executive as she enters her mid fifties and like everyone wondered how Dixon City Comptroller Rita Crendwell could afford so many horses. The rumor we had that she had befriended some rich little old lady and she had left her a lot of money. Somebody thought that her family had bought stock and Campbell's soup. I had heard something new was like a cell phone company, like every time that cell phone rang, like she made money. Like any cell phone.

Kind of, yeah. I know that sounds ridiculous. To find out the truth, listen to Crooked City, Dixon, Illinois, wherever you get your podcasts. Can help other younger artists? Then I think that's a really cool career shift away from, you know, being in a shining dress, talking shit about someone's table napkins at their party, you know. Very generous of Kyle's power and the interest in Morgan Wade. Yeah. But I like where we're going with that. Okay. Okay. Raquel is now officially Rachel, according to her Instagram. This is, you know, from Scandival, from Vanderpump Rules.

Tom Sandoval was blocked and he said some shady things. Since he's been interviewed about her blocking, he wished her a happy birthday on Instagram. She took a photo of that and then put on her stories that he has now been blocked. And he said, according to by wig, hello, drama, a great Instagram account that I talk about a lot. Quote, when somebody said she blocked me,

I was like, oh, okay, whatever, maybe her parents are going to doc her allowance this week or something, but to post. Maybe her parents are going to doc her allowance this week or something. But to post that on her story is pretty childish. He really said that. Yeah, he also called her a third-hand image or for doing that. That is so not surprising, but so rude. I guess nobody is going to come above having any respect for anybody in this because they're

all thirsty, they're all thirsty. They're all childish. They all are using each other for content and sweatshirts and everything. And I understand that's the world we all live in. I'm a part of it as well. But he really isn't too bright because he could have said so many things that could have made him look better. Better in this.

Yeah. He could have been like, hey, I totally understand. And it's probably for the best. Yeah. Maybe one day we could be friends, probably not, but like, you know what? Good for her. I get it.

I understand it. I respect her need and just take some space. She's gonna do something else with her life. I predict she's going to get into the wellness lifestyle. So do fit to me on Instagram. But also just like doing something like flower ranging. This is a great way to you know make your couch go from summer to fall with just a few throw pillows and here here's a short, Cudary board, like that kind, I think she's gonna try to go towards that. Yeah.

And, you know, I remember what I, what I wanted her to do, and I remember I said this to Lala, and she wasn't watching the show and she didn't listen. Is when she broke up with, with James, I was like, she needs to leave the show. Yeah. And she needs to go join who I call the cupcake girls. The cupcake girls are these girls that are friends with Crutch and Rossi that are all over her Instagram.

That for some reason, OC have never been able to cast. I don't know if they're too nice to normal to rich. The husbands don't let them, I don't know. But they're these tiny-sized zero girls that do these huge elaborate birthday parties for each other about two a month. And it's like everyone wear Tiffany blue. And then they have a five-course meal that no one eats. And I just look at the photos and I just wanna eat a cupcake, okay. I said, why doesn't she go and marry a rich guy and become a cupcake girl and be friends with those girls?

She missed the window now. Now they'll never have her. No, I thought once she broke up, which like once that we saw her sail off into her little, you know, at the end of last season's reunion, I thought that was the last we were ever gonna see of Raquel. And then she comes back in just like, really coming after Katie and Schwartz

and like trying to pay, and she can't like come on. Raquel and Katie, that fight was like so sad. Do you think, and then we'll move on, do you think they were seeing each other before the seven months? Um, I think that that was probably like flirting and a little touching, but I don't think they went all the way just yet. I agree. I think there was like a little bit of a vibe before. But I mean, listen, she's happy now. She can be bambi for allicking in the flowers. Like she is on Instagram and live her best,

let her cupcake play. Bambi, I bitch. Bambi, I bitch. What do you think of New York housewives? The new one, are you enjoying it liking it? What do you want to see happen? Bless her soul. Bless her heart.

It's cute. Like it's fine. Like I don't get why everybody's overhy Bless her heart. It's cute. It's fun. I don't get why everybody's overhyping it. It's not that interesting. I'm not looking forward to it every single week. I think it's cute. It's nothing compared to the original Roni. Nobody would have cared if we didn't call it Roni because we cared because we're like,

what is the reboot gonna be? But it's like, let's be honest. The original Roni was never supposed to be a show about, you know, true representation in New York. It was called Manhattan Moms and it was about these, you know, affluent, kooky ladies that have a lot of money that, like, you know, are fighting to get their kids into private schools. Like it was never supposed to be a relatable show. It was always kooky, wacky, out of touch and we were meant to laugh at how ridiculous these women's lives were. I just said the same thing. I was talking to my girlfriend about it who she's been watching it as long as I have

to not in this business. And she's like, I like them, they're nice. I go, yes, you know, they are relatable. But you know what? Like, who was that? There was that one influencer that like lost everything because she talked about being relatable and I'm not relatable.

But like you're right, when real housewives of New York started, it wasn't relatable. Only the people living in New York on the Upper West side could relate to them. And us sitting at home, we were like, what's it like to live in a penthouse? What's it like to go to Central Park and walk your dog? We were watching it.

What's it like to get into the hardest private school? It wasn't relatable. These women are more relatable and they are likable and they have nice personalities and stuff. But nobody is like, even Jenna, who has the money, I guess, the older one. Her apartment and her closet are like, wow, but it's not, I know it's so expensive in New York,

but to someone who's sitting at home in Texas, it's still not that, oh my God, look at this place. And like, so I'm kind of like, I think that's it, and they just don't have a history. So even when they're making each other laugh, which there was a fun scene last night where they're telling embarrassing stories, it's not the kind of laughing that would happen

between Asoia and Luan, because they've known each other for 20 years and you're rolling over and when you have a good friend and all of a sudden you look, give them a look and you're dying and your other friends that don't know you as well. Why are you guys laughing so hard and you're like just just you know because they they were cast. I think that's why like OC is doing better this season is because you have like Heather Dubrosh, the door, Tamra, and they have a history together. You know, and we're invested in that history because you can feel that chemistry whether

they're getting longer, not getting longer. These women were all just cast on a show. They're all trying to get to know each other and like trying to like each other and also trying to like kind of create a little bit of drama. But it's just it's not really. No, like the fights that have happened and it shouldn't be about fights, but that's what the show is. It's about what you want me to fight. Aaron, you know, took Uba's phone for 45 minutes. I would freak out too if my phone was missing. I wouldn't think it was very

funny, but okay, so they're gonna have a big fight about that. But like what are they gonna talk about it at the reunion? There's nothing. There's nothing cheese and phones and and that Brin trying to hit on Abe like come on once you actually watch when Aaron watches that scene I actually think that I think the biggest thing that you could take from this entire season is when brin said pretend to choke on Up units when you're giving a blowjob because that'll make the guy feel good. Like Mike Dick was so big. Yeah, that's the trick though.

And I, I didn't know it. And I thought that was a great tip. Yeah, I mean, it can be five inches in a minute. And then he's gonna be like, oh my, I'm gonna be like, oh, it's so big. I think if there's anything you could take away from the season. That's it.

That's about it. It wasn't how to make a wreath. No. That looked hideous. No. It wasn't about, you know, and Jenna's thing, I do appreciate her honesty of like, I'm on the show because I have a million other businesses that I need to sell because I'm never gonna work

at J. Crew again. Yeah, that's why every time she gives them gifts, they're all with her monochrome on in her logo. But I mean, I'm kinda, I know everyone dies for her. I don't. I don't think she's all that interested. Like, she's, okay, like she's working, but like. And she's just like, well, yeah, I think that this is really quite amazing.

I, it's not what I do, but I'm not her. Like it's just kind of like, she's not a housewife. It's such a, it's such a mixed match. And then I also, I don't really like that brin and some of the women flirt with her all the time because she's the old, she's the, we've had lots of bi women. But she's like the first out lesbian.

We have Miami, Julia. Oh, it's not that memorable. And you know what? Ariana, what's her name? Adriana. She kind of does it with her too. Oh, yeah. I don't know for some reason. It kind of bothers me. And it kind of like seems sort of it's like the ultimate thirst. Yeah. Like you're not a lesbian. There's one lesbian here. And you're so thirsty for attention. Yeah. That you're flirting a lesbian, there's one lesbian here, and you're so thirsty for attention that you're flirting with this woman that I'm sure wants nothing to do with you, whether she's single or married or not, just because she's a lesbian. Doesn't mean she's automatically going to be a lover.

Oh, I'm way too old to be a lover. Yeah, I don't know that for it really bothers me. Yeah, I got that. It's weird, because you know they're not genuinely interested. Yeah. It's just it's weird because you know they're not like not genuinely interested. Yeah, like each other. Yeah Okay, assault like Yeah, here's with let's bring back high-spin'd let's talk about this. Do you know that um I Mean I saw a really funny meme comparing Meredith's family with her two, with Brooks and Chloe, is that her name?

Yeah. And the husband and comparing them to Shits Creek. Oh, he saw that. And I was like, that is so true. And Whitney pointing out that they have rented a different house every year. Every single year. And yeah, some people like to rent and live in a nicer place

than they could afford to buy. And that's their prerogative. Yeah. And you're on a show like this and you're scrambling. But it's also Whitney's prerogative to point it out. Yeah. Do you think Meredith has sparked everyone in half of New York? I, I mean, not New York is a big city.

But I think there's probably been more than a couple guys. Yeah. And there was that, so the rumor was that it was that one guy that was seen on some of the New York episodes, not Red Scar. Not Red Scar? No, it's another guy that sort of had like a kind of a larger build. Okay. And he was like a Ramona friend or something. And that was the rumor that that guy also did Jen Shaw and her. Okay, and he was like a Ramona friend or something and

That was the rumor that that guy also did Gen Shaw and her Yes, when Gen Shaw was eating her out of the steakhouse. Did you hear that rumor? Tell that was a rumor. I think I heard it And I think they made fun of it on the on the show I'd one of the reunions or something but that they were they like hooked up and who Meredith and Gen Shaw Yeah, and that like Gen Shaw ate her out at like a steakhouse that they were, they like hooked up and like. Who Meredith and Gencha. Yeah, and that like Gencha ate her out at like a stay-couse. That they were all there and then Gencha crawled under the table and like was fooling around with her. And I'm like, maybe like they were joking,

maybe it was done in jazz, but I think the story, like I don't know, I don't. I don't really believe that. No. I don't believe that any of these girls. I don't think any of them have hooked up. I don't think, I think they're all too selfish and lazy to bother hooking up with anybody that's not on camera. Maybe the new girl,

I think she's the one that I think would get down the most. This one? Yeah, Monica, is that her name? I mean, talk about the fact that I mean her story is super juicy that she boned her brother-in-law for 18 months and got kicked out of the church. The church stuff is interesting, the Mormon thing. I just saw a TikTok with this girl doing a TikTok while she's folding baby clothes and she's Mormon. And she's like, I might and she's like, I have no followers and this really, and even this didn't have a lot of views,

but somehow popped up on my thing. And she goes, but I love this church and it really bothers me that Bravo showed a photo of the sacred underwear. She's like, I just don't know that they would make fun of anything else that's like a sacred thing and other religions like that. Yeah. And then other people that were Mormon were like, shut up. I'm glad they're exposing it. Like, this is weird and you know, all that.

I feel like I just thought it was kind of an interesting perspective because I was thinking about it like, you know, I was raised Catholic though, I'm totally fine talking about all the things that are wrong with the Catholic church and all that type of stuff. You raised Catholic too. Yeah, so it's like, but there's still things that you and I probably take from it that are nice. You know, that keep us like moral or whatever we look forward to it or the smell of the you know, benediction or whatever.

Like there's things like that. But and I think maybe because our religion has been so talked about and exposed and the negativity and there's so many movies about things that are effed up about it. Maybe that maybe because it really hasn't been much about Mormonism in the media, that people that are Mormon might feel like they're being somehow attacked or something. But yeah, I mean, there's interest in it, and it's like you can't hide from these things.

At some point it was gonna come out or be exposed. And if anything, like at least it's highlighting the Mormon church, it's some people. Yeah, I was kind of surprised that Jack, for a son who was a CEO of Great Wolf Hair Care, whatever it was called. I'm mad I never got on the PR list for that. I was kind of impressed with the PR list.

That he's doing the mission. I just hope once he does the mission that he's also has some of those jars of hair gel and like to sell some, but I'm actually really surprised. And I think it's kind of interesting how they would feel. Because it's like, I remember like being a little kid and this nun coming to speak at our school. And she's like, when I decided I was gonna be a nun,

my parents were so upset. And as a little girl, I was like, well, wouldn't that be the best thing you could do? Like, isn't that what all of our parents want us to do is to be a nun, my parents were so upset. And as a little girl, I was like, well, wouldn't that be the best thing you could do? Like, isn't that what all of your parents want us to do is to be a nun in a priest? And I remember I went home to my mom and I'm like, mom, wouldn't you be happy if I became a nun? And she was like, no.

She was like, no, that means you're never can get married or have kids. And I was like, oh, I thought that was the ultimate like being the good Catholic. And so I think it's kind of like, of course, a mission is just two years. And in some ways, I think whatever they do on that mission sometimes makes the best sales business people

because they get so much rejection, which is why so many Mormons are very successful in business, I think. And, but I was sort of surprised the way he was portrayed in the previous seasons, I'm very shocked that he would go Do this versus going to college and being I also saw a video of him bragging about how much money he had in his bank account Yeah, a tick-tock where someone's like how much money you're making out. He's like which one?

Well, yeah, and I mean it was a bit of a plot twist I don't even think Lisa saw come no no that I mean and I know and I don't think she totally loves it either But she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either,

but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she totally loves it either, but she's trying to go on the mission, but she's trying to be like a good mom. No, I don't think she's it to me. And you can buy if you're a consumer. I never really do shots. And I did try the different tequila at the end of my shows when it was, you know, the eight one eight and castle.

Yeah, and I still, I'm like, I know what good red wine is and I know what good champagne and shardinav because that I do have a palette for. But I don't have a palette for vodka or tequila. I really don't know. I have a palette for, but I don't have a palette for vodka or tequila. I really don't know. I have a palette for vodka. I don't have a palette for tequila.

So I wouldn't know, like I guess I could tell a difference if it was, you know, the Azul shot or whatever. I don't know, but I'm not, so I, I think it's somewhere that people do shots at all. Like I'm like, I don't, I feel like most people just do shots to get fucked up. They're not tequila shots. But that's why I feel like it's.

Unless you're Denise Richards and you want a, you want it neat. Like a sort of neat, yeah. But I feel like past college, it's just weird for me to see all these like, you know, 50 year old mothers doing shots. Like I just, I had the heel team wanting to do a bottoms up

on Beverly Hills. Yeah, like I just, I guess it was, okay, so. What do we think? I just realized Mary's not in this photo and this is the latest photo. What do you think about them bringing back Mary? Listen I think Mary's a cult leader. Yeah I think I think Mary got a cult leader church leader I don't know what you want to call it but yeah. She's great television. Yeah. She's hilarious. She's always gonna be quirky and eccentric. I don't know. I just, I like, personally, I like her.

I think Twitter is, it's a little weird that Twitter will drag or moan a singer, but they praise Mary when I think they're both equally terrible people. And I just, I think that the hypocrisy is kind of funny, but she's a terrible human being and she probably does run a cold But she's great television. I mean, I think that's what they needed. They were just like we're losing Gen Shaw We'll bring her back. She literally cares about nobody in the cast

hates her husband kind of likes her son and Only care and it's just a stop. That's her whole character. She's not mentioned the church at all. She's not mentioning God at all. Like the least religious church leader I've ever seen. And but yeah, with her eyes and her weirdness, I would have brought her back to. She is ruthless and toothless. She's viled to these women.

Like the text messages that she sends to like Lisa Barlow are the way she talks to Whitney, calling Heather Inbrett. Like it's just like she has no loyalty to anybody. She's hardcore. But I think it's fun to watch. And now let's finish with OC. What do you think should happen? I guess we have about what? Couple episodes left before I know they shot the reunion. I have said I think Heather does need to go to Beverly Hills or go away. I think she doesn't say- I think I would kill O.C.

I don't know if they just get more, kind of, like, sort of say it, kind of tacky women. Nobody lives near the sea. No one's really wealthy. But they're kind of fun and messy. So just stick with messy tacky people that don't know how to dress because they're confessional looks, other worse confessional looks. I've seen of any franchise. Yeah.

Or we do like a younger version type of thing. Or what do you think we should do? I've given my opinion, you say what you should do. I would like. I would like to add an executive. I like this cast. I would give it another go, especially now with the DUI.

I want to see Shannon and Gina's dynamic continue go, especially now with, you know, the DUI. I want to see like Shannon and Gina's dynamic continue to unfold. I mean, without Heather, without Heather, I feel like the show would really go sink into the gutter. Do you think when the news came out about the DUI? Do you think the executives at Bravo turned up the music and did a dance being that no one was hurt? Yeah. Okay. She didn't, being that no one was hurt. Yeah. Okay. She didn't hurt anybody, she wasn't hurt. Do you think they did a dance

or only the people at Shed Media, or whoever does this show? Who does this show? Whatever. Or maybe just the production company did a dance. Who did a dance? I think the production company did a dance, because I think this is gonna give it a little more,

like give the show The legs. Yeah, is she gonna go sober is she going to not go sober? Is she gonna try to defend it? Are they gonna be bringing it up all the time? Yeah, like you know What is it going to be especially since she had a really rough season this past season that like this is gonna continue to This is like when Luanne remember when we got arrested and then she came out with Cabaret I mean Shannon now has a whole variety and then she came out with Cabaret. I mean, Shannon now has a whole variety of options. She could do Cabaret last, she could do Cabaret,

like she has options now, she could do stand up. Speaking of which, I'm sure you've seen Countess Luans show. No, I haven't been to the Countess. How have you not been? I know. Okay, cause I was gonna ask you to compare the two shows, though I think they're very different.

Erica and hers. I feel like Lou Anz is more of like a variety show. It is. But it's the same vibe of just like having fun with your friends and getting drunk and whatever. But hers is more like I feel like Erica, you know, is more serious about the fact that she did it before and then Countess did it sense but she's still a series about it but I think she thinks it's more serious than it actually. Yeah, like Luanne thinks that like she's a Cavarray star and it's like yeah people are showing up because they watch you on house webs. Yes,

and I mean but she loves it and she you know and she does and she does try hard. Yeah, so I think it's all good. Tell everybody where they can find more of you. Yeah, I host podcast called Nofield to its Zach Peter. It airs Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays on all podcast platforms. You can also watch it on YouTube or watch it on Spotify. I'm going to be doing a live taping of the show at the Bourbon Room, which is the last place I saw you. Awesome. November 19th. Great. So I'm going to be doing a friends giving show. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. Something fun for the holidays. Yes. That is awesome. And what's your Instagram? Yeah. My personal Instagram is just plain Zach and the show Instagram is

a no filter with Zach. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming out to the valley. I hope that you can go across the street and show the target or do whatever you have to do here. Is there a lamps plus nearby? You know what's probably is you know, you have to do here. Is there a lamb's plus nearby? You know what's there probably is, you know we have the best mall. Yeah. You know the Westfield mall. We have the Tepenga social.

We have, you can go to that target. There's also Neemans there. And Air May is, I don't know if it's ready yet, but Gucci's there, Luba Ton. It's a little shiny over there. Yeah, I mean, you might want to just take advantage. Go to the village for lunch. Yeah.