Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Sarah Lawrence Cult with Chris Franjola and Captain Sandy

Episode Date: February 16, 2023

We get more time with Chris, and we discuss Ben and Jen’s house hunting and swingers. What jobs are best to bone at, and which ones will fire you for it? What would it take for you to stop going to Cheesecake Factory? Locker rooms are removing urinals. Madonna just needs to change her hair. The Hulu documentary about the Sarah Lawrence cult is a parent’s worst nightmare. I almost became a Mary Kay Cosmetic Consultant. Then Bravo’s Below Deck’s Captain Sandy is here! We learn more about her girlfriend and her brave life choices. She gives me some tips for future yachting adventures and other great career advice that can apply to everyone. Get extra juice on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop https://heathermcdonald.net/ See me Live: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Follow me: @heathermcdonald  Follow Chris  @chrisfranjola   Follow Captain Sandy @captainsandyawn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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All right, you guys don't deserve the show, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway. I want you to follow up on the Lufus. Have you heard about the Lufus? I did, this is a swing or thing. It's a swing or I've got heard from people who live in the villages of Florida that are furious at me that I'm talking about this.

Really? They're saying it's not true. People put it on their golf carts and have for a year because they're older people and they want to and any also because golf carts look alike so they watch the golf balls no I think to identify which golf cart is there oh different colored loopholes okay sure um however someone also sent me this where you can see there's there at a store and there's very few loopholes available to purchase. They're sold out.

I can sold out. There's nothing on the shelves of the store. Well, you're right. So maybe, maybe. Yeah, I'll go anyway. It's not a bunch of old people getting their different colored loopholes to identify what kind of swing or they are.

OK. Then I heard from this girl, OK? I work in the villages, Florida, as a bartender, driving home from work tonight, listening to your podcast. And almost died when you talked about it. I'm a bartender in the villages and I can tell you that the Lufa's are real. So she's saying Israel, I have another angry Jewish Cooper saying it's not real. Okay, can I stop you? I don't know what the villages are. Is that like a part of our? It's like a community in Florida of older people. Okay, got it predominantly older people. I guess I put them in glasses. I can tell you that the Lufus are real on cars, especially on golf carts.

Key parties are still a thing, but there's more. You mentioned the pineapples and yes, they're everywhere. I wanted to let you know that even inside the grocery store, if you have a pineapple in your cart, in the top part where the baby would sit, which is what I always said. It means you're open to being approached by others and looking for partners. There's so much. They have a whole secret code as far as what the women wear, like gold and may shoes. That's a thing.

Not sure of the exact meaning, but when I tell you that these people in the villages are partiers, they love to party. They love their pineapples too, pineapple earrings, dress shirts, shoe ties for men, so many like spring break for seniors. Okay. Now, another person that said you're, you know, like I said, this isn't true,

it's the most respectful place on Earth, this is just a dumb rumor. So I don't know if you are a Lufa scrubbing or just putting on your golf cart and you are a swinger. Uh-huh. Let me just hear for you. Write me yourself and say yes. I'm 68.

I started swinging 25 years ago with my husband. I've had over 100 partners. We absolutely love it. Okay. This is how we do it. Not ashamed of it. We found like 90 people at the villagers or not. Okay.

Now also, I'll just say this in defense of the pineapple. Yes. It's a hot fruit right now on all things. Like if you go to any home goods or any of these, because it's cute. Yeah, because it's cute. The pineapple is on everything. And it always has been.

It's also a sign of hospitality. It's all all right but okay but isn't being a swing or the all nothing else than that but all right can I ask you I don't even know what actually swinging is I guess is it you take my house why will that take your husband or is it you watch me do your wife or husband like what is what exactly is it? Well, I'm so glad you asked that and that is why they introduced the different colors of the lufus oh because the The different colors indicate that oh it does yes, and I went through it with Sarah So you could just go back and listen that episode, but it is literally like that. Okay. Like white is just invite me to the party I don't know if I want to watch you

I might just want to have a bite to eat, but I'd like to be invited to the party. I don't know if I want to watch you. I might just want to have a bite to eat, but I'd like to be invited to the party. Then there's another color that's like, I am probably going to make out with my husband while watching other people do stuff. Okay. Then the next one is, my husband and I are definitely going to fuck, don't touch us, but we'll fuck with other people

fucking in the room. Right. Then there is, you can come around and like touch my boob or give me a shoulder rub while someone's going down on me. You know, and then there's a full blown, I will have full blown sex with a stranger, and I don't care. And then there's the bisexual ones. So that's what that's why, because people like you

wondered for so long, and then someone said, let's make it easy. It would loop. I feel like that makes it more difficult, someone said, let's make it easy. With luffins. I feel like that makes it more difficult, but whatever, that's fine. It all makes me feel very important. But someone's like, I'm color blind. Yeah.

And my back, like I'm not luffin at all. Like I have stead, scale, he's skin, all of them in my body. Yeah. It all makes me feel very boring. Cause is none of this interest to me at all. Not at all. Not even remotely. I have no idea.

But you know, when I interviewed a former Mormon, I put her on a former. A former Mormon. A former Mormon. A former Mormon. I asked her about swinging. It was Whitney Rose from Salt Lake City. A former woman. A former woman. A former woman. A former woman. A former woman. A former woman. A former woman. A former woman.

A former woman. A former woman. A former woman. A former woman. I asked her about swinging. I asked her about swinging. It was Whitney Rose from Salt Lake City. Whitney Rose from Salt Lake City.

She said, you know, it does happen She said, you know, it does happen She said, you know, it does happen because these people get married so young. I'm sure. So maybe being that swingers, So maybe being that swingers, some swingers, some swingers, these ones, might have gotten married

might have gotten married back in the day. Right. much younger than people like you and me. Yeah. So if you never had much experience and you both are like God is my high school sweetheart now or whatever Like is there more out there? I don't know that could be all right. Well, that's a good explanation Okay, Ben and Jen according to TMZ have bought a new house It's a brand new house built on an acre in Pacific Palisades She is selling her Bell air home for 40 million something and found this cutie for 32. That is a cutie. And it's got a jam and it's got everything. And Spencer Pratt lives in there. He does? He lives in Pacific Palisades. He's

at Irwan every day. And I hope I think they should buy there. I think it's fabulous. Well, they are, right? Didn't they confirm? Of course, I don't know where the closest don't condone it to. Yeah, exactly, right. You're right. I'm going to get my dunk in. Boy, well, good for him.

I least he has another wing of the house. He can go to when J. Lowe's gets, you know, I feel like there's every now and again, I'll be headbutting between it. Like there was at the award show. You see the new movie that he has coming out. Yeah, it's about Nike. It's about Nike. So he plays the Nike owner.

Yeah. Matt Damon plays an agent already. And already in. I think it's a series going to be on Apple TV or whatever. Oh, it's a series series. Oh, I think it's better as a series. I thought it was going to be a movie. And I was like, OK, I think we've seen the whole thing.

I believe it's a series. Oh, OK. Every guy is going to love that. Oh, absolutely. Sounds think we've seen the whole thing. I believe it's a series. Oh, okay. Every guy is gonna love that. Oh, absolutely. Sounds great. I don't really care, but I think it looks good. Yeah, I think it's, I've watched it. It's a history of how it all happened.

Yeah, that's kind of interesting. It looks good. So Kendall Jenner got some hate or push, she did a weird photo Shop oh yeah, our hand looks like a long alien Yeah, what's that? I don't really understand what she made smaller than I don't really know how Photoshop works I I don't either What what who are you if your life is a Photoshop detective? Oh God? Yeah, I didn't even I mean

I've seen pictures now, but I would have never noticed that ever. How'd I? I mean, is it really like, I just don't know why. Like, I would think, okay, she would make her ask bigger or something, like why, why your hand long? Yeah, what's wrong? I once did a photo with Peter and it was in Photoshop

and my fucking hand and arm looked so weirdly like skeleton log like it looked like one of those stretch dolls. Like yeah. And I was like, God otherwise this photo is good, but I think someone's gonna think like, what the hell did you do with her weird, long arms? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, that's very strange looking.

Who cares? This was kind of interesting. Yeah. So they're doing the joke or two and apparently extras are pissed but they can't piss. They're not getting their proper bathroom breaks and after they complained or after they came back from the bathroom they'd be drinking water and someone would be like what are you doing? Why are you drinking water? We're not gonna you're not gonna be able to go to the bathroom for like another four hours so or, or five, or I don't know what it is.

Yeah. Anyway, I just thought that was interesting. That is. I know, I mean, I've been an extra, have you ever been an extra? I, one time, was the worst experience. It's the worst experience. Like, the fact that there are people who do it,

like, as a career. They have their holding chairs, they have their book, they just do it, they know, they, they have professional extras. Yes. It's got to be a worse life than being a Photoshop detective. You know, my dad's, my mom and dad's friend,

they had this couple that had been married forever. And she was Native American. And as a second career after her kids were grown and everything, she was an extra on some show that kind of needed Native Americans. And she loved it. Oh, yeah. She brought her book. She brought her, you know, her thing. She never was an actor before and you get fed and this and that. And what were you an extra on? I was an extra trying to get my sad card because it paid nothing. I was an extra on Wings World 2.

So was I, Wings World 2. I think we talked about this. Yeah, we did all the other. And that's where, and then there was another one, but the last day that I did it, oh I did it on a, I was on a beach scene with a 9 or 2 1 0. Okay. And I have to say you're in zering. I think he was kind of, of effing me a little bit.

Oh really? Yeah. Okay. You see that? And so that was it. And then I was supposed to do one other day. And they said, like, oh, it's a carnival scene. And you have to go, and it was like, alameda.

Like it was so far. Yeah. And you have to be there at 6am. And I just didn't show up. I think that's a happy thing. And they never called me again. And I was like, I just don't wanna do this. And then I found somebody that I could pay

that worked at SAG, that could get me a SAG. Yeah, that's where everybody just did it. Or if I do a thousand dollars, I'll do that. Instead of having to humiliate myself on the set of Wayne's World 2. But I remember. Which they promised me that smith was gonna be there that's why i went to like and you get to see not only be an extra agency aro

smith play two songs and they didn't do i think that was when i that's what i didn't go back again i don't know first and then i did wanes world and i think i was supposed to go to the concert scene and i chose not to go to that because the night before because they're like, okay, I want to use you a lot. And I also want to say Dana Carvey, I think, cut a eyeball to me a little bit. Really? I remember being in this diner scene.

They were in a diner or something and I was in that eye contact with them. Oh, easy, right. Yeah. I mean, just like eye contact. Yeah, yeah. Come on, like, whatever. But I remember they were all like, didn't she bring your Tupperware and I go what no And it was all all these people were dressed up like rockers and I think they were rockers anyway

Yeah, that's was sort of depressing because being a rocker was already really out of style by the time I was like doing this movie Oh, yeah, and they had a Disguided duffle bag worth of Tupperware stuff and he'd go around the in the craft services. Oh, yeah. And he was just doing tons of like pastas and stuff. And that's when I was like, this is so depressing. Yeah, like homeless people.

I mean, it's, yeah, it's a sad situation. Like, let them pee though. I know, let them pee. I mean, this is one extra complaining that he wasn't allowed to pay. It's one true, you know, it was always one of the problems. Right, and I also wanna say,

and if we know who you are, you're never getting asked again. Okay, oh my God, I just remembered this story. So I saw a TikTok of this girl walking, pretty blonde girl walking in a sunny street. Uh huh. And how she's a writer. Oh, I watched it.

Do I said she's a writer? I love it. Okay, so I wanted you, okay, how she's a writer. Oh, I watched it. Do I said she's a writer? OK, so I wanted you to say it. So she's a writer. And she's like, I mean, I just found out that the project that I was working on for free is probably not going to go now. And I'm writing on this other thing for these people that pay me like nothing.

And I just think being a writer is just so hard. I don't know if I want to do it anymore. And these people that being a writer is just like, it's so hard. I don't know if I want to do it anymore. And these people that I work for are these big wigs. And they just expect me to write for them. And they don't, and I know what she goes on and my comment was, don't worry girl, they're never hiring you again.

Like you literally just did a TikTok of how you think that the world is against you. Right. You're a young writer who hasn't been staffed yet. I know. Who hasn't been, you did not create a show. And the amount of shows that I've pitched and created and worked on that never came to fruition. Yeah, that's the business.

Like, hello, that's the business. And now you complaining boo-hoo on TikTok. I know. I'm watching it and thinking like, wait a minute, is this somebody like I'm supposed to know? Like is she a legitimate writer who's been on a thousand shows and I looked her up and it's not the case. Like, yeah, that was...

And I'm like, yeah, it's a really hard career. It's a hard career because when you make it, it's fabulous. And you do make a lot. Exactly. So unless you're willing to put up with working for nothing and having years of rejection, but just doing it because you love it and you like going to

those writer meetings where you're getting paid nothing because you're around other brilliant writer people and you're making connection. Yeah go quit go quit and put on you know somewhere to outfit and try to be a TikTok star okay like I don't know what to tell you. Right right. But you know but somewhere in outfit and try to be a TikTok star. Okay, like, I don't know what to tell you. Right, right. But, you know, but then I definitely think complaining about your boss, like, there's no way that someone didn't, if I saw it. There's no way that someone did not see this,

that actually knows her and is like, Chris, or whatever, like, maybe EP, Chris, I gotta show you what Sarah did yesterday on TikTok. All right. Exactly. Maybe they were thinking of stepping in. Was it like a viral video too? I don't know if we can check because I sent it to you,

but I don't know that it was viral. But I put that as my comment. I'm like, I don't mean to be like an old Gen X, bitchy person that had to work for where I got, but I am an old X Gen X. I am an old Gen X person that had to work for where I am. And am an old ex-genics. I am an old genx person that had to work for where I am. And I don't feel sorry for you. It is.

OK. Students protest after New Hampshire school district bands urinals. Now I've looked into this because the first comments were like, oh my god, they're getting rid of urinals because trans men, biological women who are trans men now, can't use them or don't wanna see that, I don't know. Then other people, that's not even true,

this is misinformation, they just feel like the locker room shouldn't have as many people being naked in one spot. And they want it, I always thought urinals were just weird to begin with, but I'm not a dude. That you're just naked dick is out, like I just think it's weird. But so if you're, I mean, maybe not banning them, but just like, I mean, I talked about this by stand up, but like, yeah, if I was to start a restaurant right now, I wouldn't have

a men and a women's. I would have like three smaller or four, maybe four smaller individual restrooms. Yeah, I think they a lot of them do that. I think that's more fair, but you know who doesn't like it? Women. Men, people like Peter. Why not? Because in the past, there was never a line for the men's.

And now everybody has to wait in line. Oh, I see. Yeah, in the past, you could just go to the, if there was a traditional men, you'd go in and there is a urinal, or there's just aren't as many people there, people are quick. Yeah. Guys aren't putting on their makeup

Uh-huh. Now he's got to wait for whatever person is in there taking their time along in the bathroom Yeah, I All about a urinal. I hope they stick around. Okay. Yeah, you know what that out works It's a it's a good way to pee. Yeah, I feel like this is one of those stories where they just come up with like, we need something to be angry about. Let's find something and they find some weird story. Or it could be one of those things that people that are issuing this. Yeah. Have to have something that they bring to the table.

Right. Like, what's our new policy? Mm-hmm. This is our new policy. Yeah. Now, you know, I've done something for seven months while I've been paid in this government job. Yeah. Exactly.

I mean, sometimes it's that. And they're like, let's just rearrange the bathrooms. This girl did this viral speech, where she is someone who was on the swim team with the Leotomsen, who is. Leotomsen is the actress from some kind of wonderful Lea Thomas I believe Lea Thomas was the trans woman born male swam As a swimmer as a man for for the entire adult her entire adult life And was like ranked 500th and then got on this female team as a woman and Put on like a one-piece suit in letter hair grow and then won all these trophies that we won

You know these growth so all these girls that were supposed to be ranked now longer ranked because they lost it by one point and And you know, I'm not for it. I'm totally against it. And like, I'm just going to say that and come out me. It's a different body. It's a different wingspan. It's a different chest. Yeah. Long span.

It's just like, you know, but her speech was really good. But part of it was that she had to be in the locker room. With Leah Thompson. With Leah, who still, Leah who still had male anatomy. She wasn't asking for a urinal to be put in there, but hey. Right, right. Yeah. But yeah, there's a big thing going on.

Are we just like in the process of this kind of like amazing? What is this Leah Thompson is going to graduate college? I feel like, I mean, isn't it just four years? I feel like the story's been hanging around for like nine. Eventually college swimming is over. Like this has got to be over, right? Well, you know what, she shouldn't finish college.

She should go and transfer to the cheer junior college and just join cheerleading and do that for another seven year. Where they're on, yeah, they seem to be there for a few. Yeah, she's a good athlete and maybe that'll be fun. Well, I mean, look, they got to figure something out. Glad I'm not athletic. Okay, did you speak you have more school stuff? Did you hear about the principal and the gym teacher

who were fired after taking videos on themselves having sex in the school bathroom? I heard about it, yeah. So during, I don't know if it's during school hours, or if they were just like meet me at 3.30 in the during, I don't know if it's during school hours or if they were just like meet me at 330 in the bathroom, but they would have sex and then the guy's wife would film it. Oh, so this is how many loophies did they have on their call? Oh, oh, really God, I don't know. It's about they having a good time, huh? I mean, some of these, and you,

and then it reminded me of the famous story of the of the cop in Mississippi and it was Tennessee and there were so many intricate stories to this. This is the female cop who was really screwing everybody and I read it and I like literally had to do like a you know how when when you ever see like a movie about a detective trying to figure out a crime yeah that's what this was like yeah where you literally had like so her last name was like Megan earthy so she was giving oral to this guy Lewis Powell who is this the police officer? yes okay who I mean there's just oh you really do have it all figured out like a crime scene but it's been a while since i read read it she tried to break up

but first she's married right and that and the husband decided she was married she tried to break up with this person that she was doing oral to and he got so depressed that he got drunk and he got in a car crash then she started having sex with this guy wait is this all a video in this too is this a video? I don't know if that wouldn't be the office of cam the body cam? I don't know then she was having sex with this guy Larry

and then she was having a threesome and he's all cop in the same place then she was doing a threesome with this guy patrick and and he wanted hit her to make out with his wife but the wife wasn't really sure then it was like

then she wanted her husband jet hall to mere to join in a force of that would have been a swinging thing so she would have been having sex with this guy patrick and his wife and jet but her husband hall wasn't that into it and then um so they're trying to have a for some and then there was some fetish stuff and then she would just do blow jobs like out of at a jacuzzi party just to be like friendly like your passing out apps passing out out BJs. But in the end, even though her husband who goes by last day of haul did not want to have the four son, he was fine with watching her get together with the husband and the wife, um, and he's sticking by her since she got

fired. Well, as shallow as this may seem, every time I read any type of like story like this. If the players in the story are not attractive, I'm out immediately. And a moment I looked at this police officer and I'm not saying any, but I was saying not my type, so I was not interested in the story right away. I think she's a very interesting type. Yeah. Because she's not traditionally hot. Okay.

But she has a cute face. I could see it. Yeah. But it's like a little geeky of a face. Yeah, a little geeky face. It's a geeky face. Right. And I feel there's something so interesting about a geeky girl.

Okay. That's super, super horny slut. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a hidden like, whoa. Mm-hmm. about a geeky girl that super, super funny slut. Yeah, yeah, it's a, it's a, it's like a hidden like, whoa, we're even fine. I remember that finding out that some geek was a huge slut in college and I was like, really? It was the plot of every movie in 1988.

You know, Rachel Levin Wood would take off her glass and be like, what? Well, one of those actresses. Yeah. Rachel Lee Cook, that was her name. Yeah. And I also think sometimes a little of a geeky girl that might not have been that popular, that is how she does get popular. Right.

And she is liked and it's something that she's good at. Yeah. And she learned it like you would learn baking a pie. Mm-hmm. Some people have the best pies in town and some people give the best pancakes. Right, right. Sometimes small daily actions really make a big difference,

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No, but this one too happened like in cop cars and at the station. I know. So that's what makes it bad just like the school. I understand why it's all bad. Okay. But I also understand that it happens, and it's just like,

right, it happens that good morning, America happens at the police station, and it happens. And it's just like, right, it happens. That good morning. Everywhere happens at the police station. And it happens at the schools. Yes. What do you want? The fact that everyone's so shocked that people fuck at work is beyond me. And then don't complain that nobody wants to work anymore.

Yeah. Yeah, let him make it more fun. And people will come work at your place. Yeah. You don't want to raise a minimum wage. You offer a blow job. Yeah. I'll take a blowjob once a week and is that another 50 cents. Right, you know what? You can't screw when you're at home doing zoom.

Exactly. So here's the problem. They'd rather stay at home and screw their one partner or nobody in zoom. If you're going to make them commute. Right. Then yeah, you got to give them something in the end. The kids have found a new way to get wasted. Oh, that finally. But it's like a healthier, more alternative. What is it? We would do, of course, the agamister and everclear. Everclear. No, that was like a bodgon crotch. What was it? Anyway, this is called a borg. It's a water jug. And it's with what? What is it? It's a water jug. They get blackout drunk using a gallon-sized jug, filling it with half water and vodka. Then adding a flavor and some electrolytes to help them with hangovers. And professionals think it's

actually better because there's less risk of someone drinking tampered because they have their own jug. So they bring their own jug with their cap. You know how everybody has a big water bottle? They just do that, but with alcohol and they keep their own thing contained. It's a mixed drink, that's also good for COVID. Yeah, okay. Also, I'm just gonna drink milk jug.

But yeah, but that's how they're getting wasted. It's called a rage gallon. Oh, blackout rage gallon. Sounds great. Anyway, gross. Did you hear what the best seat in a plane is so that you could try to put a plane brush? Yeah.

I don't know, but I would imagine it's probably the worst seat, comfort-wise, right? It's a middle seat. Yeah. I think I'd rather die. I know, but I would imagine it's probably the worst seat, comfort-wise, right? It's a middle seat. Yeah. I think I'd rather die. I know. I know. And honestly, does anyone ever...

It's so rare that people survive a plane crash. I guess there's been a couple of... There is very rarely any time you hear about a plane crash, like everyone's dead. Yeah, there's been somewhere that's like that crazy turbulence, which is really, and not to be a dork, but it really is why you should keep your seat belt on the whole time. Yeah.

They can't give you the warning. I know. And you see people just flying up and hitting your head, and that's how you're gonna really get hurt. You won't die, but you'll be really hurt that way. Yeah, I think that you're trying to sell the middle seat right there, because nobody wants the middle seat. I mean, sometimes you get these guys who are just gigantic.

And it's gotta be so uncomfortable. We always, if we don't do first class, which is most times we don't, Peter will order the, he gets aisle and I get window helping that no one gets that middle seat. But when someone comes by and They like see that we know each other. They're like, oh, do you want to and we're both like no? Yeah, we're good I would rather like breathe the air of a stranger and be not in the middle

Yeah, yeah, because I like the window because I like to be like tucked away and then Peter of course You know in case you're an emergency. He's got a let's roll, you know, like he's got to be on the outside. Sure, sure. I understand. I can't do window anymore. I used to love a window. Now I feel I get a little lost. Yeah, it just happened recently. You know what? I think it could be happening to me too. Yeah, and then I saw another comedian. I'm not enjoying Chardonnay as much either. What's happening? Oh no. They Did really? Yeah. Oh, this could be. Yeah.

I got a transition. You could be swimming soon. I got I got really freaked out one day on a plane. I was like, I gotta get out of it. Like I was really freaking out. Like I never had anything like that panic attack or anything. But then I heard Nate Bergati comedian. Yeah. Talking about it in one of his specials and he was saying that also it just happened to him. I'm like, maybe it's one of the things just also. Having the age. With age, maybe, yeah. Well, I mean, honestly, it's probably better to be on the outside because also as you age,

you probably should get up like every 90 minutes and just walk around a little, just go to the bathroom. Yeah. I agree. All right. Cheese a little, just go to the bathroom. Yeah. You know? I agree. All right. Cheesecake Factory.

Who doesn't love it? Well, this girl said she was out of cheesecake factory and got a mac and cheese ball, like a crust sounds fucking delicious. Yeah. In it was an entire rolled up glove, like a cooking glove, like a plastic cooking glove. Not like a dishwasher, like a...

That's disgusting, but I mean, you can see how these things happen. I know you can't see how that... I mean, what do you expect? It's just people working there. Like, they're like mass producers stuff, and it falls in, they can't stop the whole production. Well, no, I don't think it's like mass produced.

I mean, it's in a kitchen at the place. Yeah, but they're frozen. They've come from another place. I don't think they're making the macaroni and cheeseballs in the back. You don't? No, I think it's a throat there. Thank you, Annie.

Definitely. 100% not. Oh my God, it's like funny, else Santa Claus is not real. What? I think it's a frozen macaroni and cheeseballs made it a factory, so much mass produced. And they drop it in hot oil at the, you think they're actually making the macaroni cheese bowl

back at the kitchen at cheesecake factory? Well, yeah, because I think they do the avocado rolls like that, you can't have an old avocado hanging out. Yes, you can. Yeah, we first frozen out of a... I need to hear from someone who has worked at cheesecake factory that is gonna let me know. Well, as a person who's worked at many restaurants

and usually not chain restaurants like this, but I'm gonna, I'm safe to say. Oh, how? Yes. I'm gonna venture to guess and nothing against Cheesecake Factory, I love it. I'm a fan, but I'm gonna say 90% of that stuff is frozen. Well, I like a love the skinny menu and I get the grilled chicken, Asian grilled chicken

in a butter lettuce taco. Three of them. Totally good. Love. I mean, once they put the calories, I couldn't order the avocado. Killed it. Killed it for me. Yeah. Sitting at a cheesecake factory bar and sometimes you have to do it in every city you go to to perform. Sometimesilled it for me. Yeah. Sitting at a cheesecake factory bar and sometimes you have to do it in every city you go to to perform. Sometimes it's only showing the greatest. They bring that bread that brown oatmeal coated bread. Yeah. Listen, cheesecake factory, I can't do business, but your butter, sometimes a little too hard. Where are you freezing that? The North Pole? I mean, come on. I mean, frozen solid. You can't even get in it. And so just put it in a microwave. Anyway, they

didn't even get a refund. They didn't even take it off a coin of this girl. I can't believe that. I need to see a picture of the glove, you know the glove. I don't even know if there's a picture. I think that the post might have been desperate for some stuff. But I love it to good cheesecake factory story. I want to say that I'm a fan. So I don't want this to reflect poorly on my love of the cheesecake factory. You've always talked about the cheesecake factory being very similar to the inside of Britney Spears house.

Yes, it's a very interesting architecture in the cheesecake factory. I don't really understand. Yeah, the architecture makes no sense to me of a cheesecake factory. It's got a very weird like temple of doom theme going on. I just wonder when will, will they ever redo it? I don't think that, yeah.

I don't think they should. No, it's everything. Why not? You know it when you work in it. It's not like people aren't going to cheesecake factor because there's a rubber glove. Like anyone that have- They're always packed.

Like somebody go to plan to go to cheesecake factor tonight. Yeah. It's us talking about this is not going to change their plan. Right. So why would you spend millions of dollars redoing it? If you're going to change change something change the way to Let me alert me that my table is ready. Yes Then with that buzzer that scares the shit out of me every time it goes

It's been going on for 20 years now and every time it buzzes. I still freak out. Yeah Amazing This was another weird thing that seemed so strange. This girl said that she ran, OK, she goes, a big eff you to the people who walked out, $300 worth of food and alcohol and the card declined. And I had to pay part of the bill since I was your server. Not only did I lose that on a $55 tip,

I lost 70 of my own money because of y'all. Treat your service better and don't order shit you can't afford. Have you ever heard of that as a surrogate? Oh, really? Well, yes. I would imagine this is probably a family run restaurant where I'm going to assume it's like a Greek run restaurant.

Greeks are bigger in the restaurant business. I worked for Greek for many years in a restaurant. And anytime anything went down, they got to get their money. And they don't bigger in the restaurant business. I worked for Greek for many years in a restaurant. And anytime anything went down, like they got to get their money and they don't care about the waitresses. She quit and forget, I don't, it will fire somebody tomorrow. But if your chronic heart is a client,

I would ask. So he must have been declined. You got to get me something, baby. Give me, yeah. So she was waiting on them. The card was declined. And then they just got up and left while the card was being processed.

And by the time she came back, they were gone, and it didn't go through. Right, so it would imagine. I can feel the chain wrestling, a cheesecake factory. But how are you supposed to keep them in there? You're not, but they, but that you're right. You're still free, they're still out 300 bucks, the family owned restaurant. Somebody's gonna have to pay for it. Well, that really sucks.

It does suck. She should have, I don't know if she should have, she should have exposed the place. Yeah. Now this, this couple, they went to Starbucks. And, you know, for a long time when you go to Starbucks and you pay with a card, there wasn't an option to tip. Yeah. Do you just say, like, okay, yeah.

So in the last six months, they now have the thing where they turn it around and they go, it's just has to ask you a question. Yeah. And now they have the one, two, three, four tip. And maybe, but I have to, right? I mean, otherwise they, you just need to take that. I'm happy to, a dollar, whatever.

Me too. But I guess this guy didn't know, but I guess you maybe, they don't know if the guy at Starbucks did it or him, but he must have pressed like $4,000, $4,000 tip. And his card automatically got charged. And then they were about to go somewhere and their card was declined. And they couldn't straighten it out in time with a credit card company, so they had to cancel a trip.

Oh, really? Oh, no. But this is what happens with these things. Yeah. With the turning round. So I asked Annie, she used to work at a coffee shop. Okay. And she always felt weird turning it around and being like,

they, yeah, people, it is weird. But I go, but yeah, but you, you made a lot more money having it that than had they not. Yeah. There's no way, like, you know, because you just feel it less when it's on a card. Because now you've paid $10 for your thing and then you're like, oh, two more, like, I don't know, you just feel it.

So I think it's a genius thing. Right. But I think we've talked about this before, but some of the places, it starts with, you know, like 10, 15, 20, 25, okay. Some of them have literally started with 22, 25, 30 and 33%. I think they think automatically you'll just go to the first one. The first one is 22%.

Yeah. And you're like, all right. Now this $4 thing is literally $6. Like what? I mean, I think the hope is, and I'm gonna defend tipped employees. Definitely. That it all comes back. It's a wheels of commerce. Like that part, now that tipped employee makes more money. They spend more money on your product. Right. And everybody's doing better. But I don't know if that's necessarily the case,

but that's the case. I love it too for that exact reason. And again, it doesn't affect the store owner. Like it doesn't cost them anything. And I like that you're dealing with people because there's so many places now that it's just you go to the restaurant at the airport, it's an iPad.

And I'm like, we got it. I still want to see like a face. And I still want to like talk to it. And so I don't want to get rid of humans completely. No, I know. I don't even like the ring your ring up your own thing at the grocery store. I don't like it. I like to go to a person. Yeah. I never know. It's too much. I let the I look kids like to do it. So I let them do it. But I want to. Um, Lady Gaga's dad said that the New York smells like weed everywhere. Have you found that since you've been in New York? I just see it. I just fell in everywhere I go. Yeah, weed actually kind of a nice scent. I don't mind the scent of weed. New York City

has smelled like fall worst if you've been, you know, you everyone knows. It's peepy. A lot of peepy in New York. Uh, so so yeah I don't think that's too bad at all good fine okay a little follow-up on the horrible Idaho murders now the roommate who said that she had eye contact or thought she had eye contact I don't think he saw her she actually thought and this is what I initially always thought, that it was partying. Yeah, partying. And at one point, she even yelled out and was like, keep it down. Yeah. Undress her. They're getting killed. And so then, and she's wasted. Yeah. She'll keep it down. Then she come, and then she sees this person leaving in a mask.

And she thought he was just part of the party. And then when she then, now she has said, which is what I always said, she passed out and then woke up at like 11. Went back to bed, woke up like 11. She definitely did not think that what she thought was someone who murdered her friends according to this latest thing. The whole thing is is just that's a crazy story really is This is just a picture of Madonna, and I want to just say one thing about Madonna's look Right you can't say anything. She's very anxious. She says your age. I'm gonna tell you right now I'm not all right. I'll get rid of the red hair Okay, get rid of the red hair go back to blonde whether it's it's your own hair or wigs, get some bangs.

Oh, all right. It's very, it's very, it's very, Rocky Dennis. It's very Rocky Dennis, it's very it with the red hair, with a huge forehead. And like, I mean, this is blurred, but just like look at that. And then the no eyebrows,

then having no eyebrows also makes your forehead look bigger. Yeah, and it's still pulled back and it's so shiny. Right. So I just think we can fix this problem with just blonde hair and bangs. Okay. I'm here to help. Yeah. I'm not here to shame.

I feel like as I get older my eyebrows are going away. They used to have a nice eyebrow. Now it's kind of almost gone. I hear that happens with age, but there's really no way to get it back once it's gone. I would have had light eyebrows to begin with, but now they're disappearing. And it's a sad situation.

Of course, I'm so, but I don't have my makeup back here because I would draw. Oh, I would love it. The best eyebrows that would look so amazing. If I had an eyebrow pencil here. Yeah. We are doing that next time you're here. Please.

I would like it because, and then I also feel like I see guys who get there, you know, they must have go through the same thing. I'm going to and they do it. And then it looks too much. I need a middle ground. I mean, honestly. I can't have zero, but I'm gonna have something.

Honestly, if we went to a hairdresser or somebody, I think if you did a little bit of brown hair dye on your brows, I don't think you need to do what people are doing when they tattoo more brows or think. But if you just darken them a little, but I don't, I see them, I don't see any difference. I don't think you look like Madonna. I don't think, no. Well, I think you're looking like Madonna. I don't like, don't think, no.

Well, I'll say this. My wife got me something. She gave some sort of brow thing. Oh, serum to make a grove. No, it's just like a little makeup that I will apply. Like before shows, like not on a regular Tuesday when I'm walking around home depot. You know, I don't want to look like someone.

Like I just came from a drag brunch. And it's my day off, you know, I don't want to look like someone like I just came from a drag branch and it's my day off, you know, oh I can I go, but I do it like before shows a little bit. A lot with your self-tanner. Oh, the self-tanner, it's a whole routine. I love it. For those construction workers, they did it. I appreciate it. Stolen youth on Hulu. Okay. This was the story I talked a lot about it on the show about this girl had a bunch of friends and they lived at Seralorn's College, which is like some ridiculous $85,000 a year. It used to be all girls. They let guys in. Your theme is, you're different, well, we're different too.

So I was like, honestly, not what I would want, the complete opposite of what I experienced at a cash school with sororities and fraternities in Southern California. Like, this would be my worst experience, just like these, anyway. So they're there, and this one girl is like, oh my dad's gonna come visit. The dad starts like living there, living in the sophomore year housing,

but the school owns it. That's, the only thing that makes that kind of important to the story is that the college then was, I think held responsible when the parents eventually sued the college. Oh, okay. Because it was on housing that they owned, but nobody checked. And there was people writing letters like their friends were like, I think there's something

weird going on. Then he takes them to this other apartment in New York. And he really mined screws them as a cult. He starts sleeping with one girl. The father. The father. And these also, these guys, which are all interviewed in this which is pretty remarkable yeah followed the story you know there was one awful part of the story that i don't think

they cover where they made one boy who thought they're not boys are like you know in their twenties but he said i don't know if i'm like gay or not and the guys like i don't think you're gay like gay or not and the guys like i don't think your gay but if you think you're gay and made him like where address and like penetrate himself while the group watched what yeah they don't feature that part in the hulu dot

all unfortunately and i don't think the item like i i i i was going in an out of consciousness and and then i had horrible college dreams as i watch it because I like falling asleep But it's three parts and it's just Insane and then he would like he just completely mind screwed him and he would be like You know you scratch this pan of mine and Then he would just berate that why did you do it? Why did you do it? And they're like I don't know I't know about person and all this stuff and then he'd be like well now you owe me this much money how are you going to

it pay them off then he takes them to this property and makes them like dig holes and lay down pipes when these kids are like from these super liberal rich white families they've never worked in any kind of construction and then he'd be like, you did it wrong. Now you owe me all this money because you damaged my property. And the only way that you can pay it off is to be a prostitute. Yes. And so then this girl ended up being completely sex trafficked from him.

And then she was like recruiting for, it's a bit, it's long and I haven't watched the whole thing and and writing it out to to the point where she made him like a million dollars really she just was had to be a hoot yeah right whatever i'm just thinking back to the parents wow that's crazy have a smart kid yeah get into school i know and possibly pay the eighty thousand dollars i one girl i think at a scholarship and then you would call them and he'd say you'd call the parents and he'd be like hey um...

i'm just gonna use your name and he is not coming home for break because she hates you she hates you you were really bad mom you're neglectful mom and if she comes home she's gonna probably kill herself so i've been talking to her every night convincing her not to kill herself and to not hate you.

And then he would manipulate the poor parents so much that they'd be like, well my God, thank you. Thank you for saving my daughter. Meanwhile, he's mind-strewing them, making them work. Yeah. And but there were all these friends and stuff that tried to tell the school tried to tell other people like this isn't good eventually

every there were three boys each boy one day just like got up and left so the boy actually got away right they were not being sex-traveled the girls then lasted anyway he got 60 years thank god the. The guy. Yeah, oh wow. But it's such an intricate insane story. And they have tapings of him, I believe it's the actual audio of him, just berating them for hours, like how the mind control works. Yeah. And the fact that now, which I always think is so interesting is when someone leaves

the cold and things like, yeah, this is what I thought, because you always are like, when you hear about it, you're like, how did someone believe this? I always think about that. Even the parents, like when you were saying the parents, like, if I was a Pat, if anyone to call me, I'll fuck off and I would go, you know, I honestly think that to the college and get my daughter. I think the biggest threat right now that parents face is will my child kill themselves. Yeah. And they use it for everything.

Right. Yeah. If you don't go along with what your child wants. Right. If you, if your child isn't happy, if you're, and you know, then what will you do with yourself? Yeah. So, yeah, he played on the biggest fear that a parent has.

Yeah. And it happens in so many kids in college, like, have mental illness that are unhappy and lonely. And you're like, oh my god, you know, it's just, it's like, it's insane. Do you think you could be manipulated into a cult of any kind. Do I? Like, do you think you're too strong-willed? Your mind is too, or do you think there's a way they could get you into a cult?

I mean, every time I watch these cult documentaries, I'm like, I see where I would be out. Like, no, that's where I'd be out. I did go to a Mary Kay brunch once. Yeah. It's kind of like the same thing. And I know, so I actually don't think I could get sucked in. Because what? Yeah. It's always, I would get approached because I always want to be that person that was like

open-minded. And I also would always, I would be approached by a lot of Christians. Yeah. Because I do, I did like like Jesus talk. There was a lot of Jesus commercials during the Super Bowl There were two Jesus commercials during the Super Bowl. Yeah, and one Scientology, so you pick your choice Speaking of Jesus. I wanted to show you this one thing Where is that

Okay I guess it was lightning that hit the big Jesus in Brazil brisill been there and so a lot of people posting like you know the end is near jesus is screwing around like he's trying to tell us something i guess other people wrote like this is happened a lot right in this is the first time this happened with the jesus but i'd i wanted to write like this is me performing stand at the tempi i think the jesus just made it yeah i don't know but i but I did post something after a couple of glasses of wine and then I removed it,

where I highlighted a comment of someone being like, this chick doesn't believe in Jesus. And it just made me so mad because it's someone that's like, honestly believed in Jesus my whole life and given a lot of money to my church, supported Catholics and Christians. The whole thing of me, fainting and people thinking that somehow like Jesus was mad at me and I did that and I was like anti, I can't believe it bothers me so it just does because it's like, don't say I'm not a fan of Jesus.

Like I'm like, but anyway, speaking of the cult thing, going back to that. So let me tell you about memory, K brunch. And I don't know if it's anyone that works for brunch. And I'm no offense to anyone that was very can. I'm sure it's very different today. But I had we had one woman in our neighborhood who got the pink car like you I isn't a Mary K. We had so so much you got the pink car. And she was the envy of the neighborhood. I don't know how they do it anymore because I'm assuming you could just go

online and order whatever you want. Right white, back then, the people would have like an extra bedroom that was like a store. And they would be like, I'll get you this, and this, and this, and this. And then you know, convince other people to sell it and also sell the stuff, right? Now I think we have a good knowledge about multi-level marketing.

So hopefully if you're thinking about getting into something, we really can, I don't wanna like piss on all of it it, but just like you can end up spending a lot of money and never selling any of it. Okay. So anyway, but Mary Kay seemed to have been around and the product's okay. So I had this girl that worked at Robinson's Bay with me in the corporate and her mom was a big Mary Kay person. and she was gorgeous girl. It just, anyway, so she was like, you know, I'm gonna just start selling Mary K. I'm like, and so she's like,

how they really want you to come to this brunch with us, you know, and I'm hating my job. I don't know if I've been fired yet, but, you know, I like makeup. So I, she probably do this brunch. And the woman does a speech. And the whole thing, God first, family second, career third. Mary K.

That's the Mary K mod. Oh, I didn't know it was a God thing. Back in 1992. I didn't know that. It's a religious thing. And a lot of Mormons get into multi-level market because it's a big push to say, you can do it from home. You don't have to leave your kids 10 hours a day,

and you could have your own business. And also you will have an immediate network if you're a mom and especially if you're out of church. You're always meeting people, you're always kids new classroom every year of like potential people that you can get under you. So they go through the whole thing and the girl comes over and she is just beautiful and so sweet. The head lady that gave it the speech. And she's like, so what do you think? What do you think?

And I'm like, oh, I don't know, you know, because the initial to join is, you know, whatever, a thousand dollars or something and get all this stuff. And my friend was really organized and she had a room of all this stuff. And I'm like, I share a room with another girl. I don't know where I could keep all this Mary K stuff. Like, I'm like. She keep budget. Yeah, and I'm kinda like, and also I'm like,

my friends are like, we got to the mall and we buy Mac. Like I don't know if they were gonna be into Mary K. And, but the thing is I had been exposed to Mary K since I was nine. Because my sister and I went to some place and they said, get a free facial. And we were like, want to get a new facial? We put our name in. And the girl called my sister.

You know, we had our own line since we were like eight. Phone line. Yeah. My parents used their lines for real estate. So my sister's like, yes, we'd like a free facial. the here comes this girl this woman like a full-grown woman comes to our house Oh my god. I don't think she knew we were a little girl. Yeah, so we're like 9 and 11 She sets up the whole thing to do like the facial in all this yeah and

You know, so she explains the story that she does a whole presentation Yeah, the way Mary K came up with this is that there was a cow on her property and And you know, she explains a story, she does a whole presentation. The way Mary K came up with this is that there was a cow on her property and accidentally something fell on the cow's skin and she noticed that it got all like soft. And from that she created this line that like, you know, made her skin beautiful. Cindy Crawford had a thing with a melon. Oh, not a cow. Now, Cindy Crawford and her skin care line that was all on like info commercials. It was with a French guy

and he said, there was this French, there was this melon that would, would go rotten and then we put something in it and it lasted so much longer. That's what we're going to put in your skin. Okay. Okay. So, and you could look at it in Crawford. So anyway, I mean, so I'm like, okay, and the girl selling it didn't have great skin. Yeah, and she like glasses and she was just like trying like, like, like, a young mom just trying to like, draw baller, wait for her house, hoping to make a sale or recruit us as salespeople. Yeah. But we're 9 and 11.

Did you get the facial? Oh, yeah, we did. Hoping to make a sale or recruit us as sales people. Yeah, but we're nine and 11 Did you get the facial? Oh? Oh my god, they had three of these plastic pink things with like all the different makeup Yeah, and then they would test like whoo, and they did this whole thing back in that day. Are you an autumn? Are you a fall? Are you a warm? But the woman was in your home? She's in her home But once your parents are like why is is there adult woman in your house? So my parents, this is the best. My parents were complete Lachke kids. And ex kids are complete Lachke kids,

and we were completely Lachke kids. My parents were doing so much real estate. They were gone all the time. There was no facts where she knew computer. Everything had to be done in person, every show, every presentation. So we're home, you know? My mom rolls up at like eight at night. The

girl's been there since five and she's like, what is going on? And then the ladies and and and we're like, don't worry mom, it was free. We're not buying anything from this woman. And my mom is like, absolutely not like we are buying a shit ton. This woman just wasted three hours of life. So not like we are buying a shit ton this woman just wasted three hours of life so she's and then she's like okay so my daughter says she's like and you know what anybody this is what you can do if you want to sell it I'm like look I'm a realtor I'm not gonna sell it I don't think I don't think I want my daughter to or not in eleven yeah we also don't have an extra room for all the product yeah but we will buy all their cleansers, all their moisturizers,

and like some lip glosses. I mean, we look like, they're like, Drew Barrymore and Pretty Baby, Dr. Barrymore, Brooke Shields. Like we have full, like she walks in, we have full face. I think, like, John Benet, right? Right and lips, like, mom, we just, don't be bad, we just, like, I didn't understand,

we didn't understand that we were wasting this poor girl's time. And that the whole reason she's giving us a few free for officials to like make a sale so that's wow so what i mean so you're saying you i doesn't sound like it and in the end no i don't think i'd write the check yeah and i think i might hear your speech i might go to like one but but i'm not going to so what the Mary Kay lady said back when I was 23 is she goes If you wake up the next morning and you're still thinking about it. That's when you know she do it

So I woke up the next morning and I was still thinking about it, but I was like No, yeah, I'm just thinking about it because I'm thinking I don't want to do it, you know so My my answer is no, I don't wanna do it. You know? So, my answer is, no, I don't think. Okay, good. I think having, like, I also think, I don't know, I don't know who gets susceptible. I think part of it was that they were a group, these kids, Sarah Lawrence, they were all in it together.

He kind of captured them all at the same time. And they're all misfits and they didn't really have friends. And they really didn't have friends going up in high school. They were all like, and they kind of captured them all at the same time. And they're all misfits and they didn't really have friends. And they really didn't have friends going up in high school. They were all like, and they kind of found each other. And so, but eventually, you know, some of them did like wake up and just go after that last lashing or beating or verbal abuse of all night that I had to leave.

But yeah, so. That's shocking. I gotta watch this now. I would be interested in that. Now I think that I gave you the thing. But yeah, that's shocking. I gotta watch this now. I would be interested in that. Now I think that I gave you the thing. Yeah, you can see it. Chrissy Poo, tell them where they can find you. Friendjola.fun is all my dates.

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I have returning guest, everyone's favorite captain. Captain Sandy, welcome back to Juicy Scoop. Thank you for having me. So I was watching the show last night. So you're below deck bed. And you guys have done seven seasons, right? You're starting your eight. But you had to come in because Captain Lee had an issue with his leg so then you took over this one which is which is great I thought that was obviously a

perfect situation yeah but were you like home to yes I was high and then they were like hey so you got a call and how did that happen? So I had the call it was February 13th I had plans with Leah on February 14th who is your partner? That's right. You guys are not married. No, and she's a singer, right? Yeah, she's an awesome singer But she did she do gospel singing first. Yes. Yeah, so she was like the I guess they call him worship Yeah, worship at Saddleback and then when she started singing Orange County. Yeah, oh, okay, so she was like the, I guess they call them worship, the worship at Saddleback, and then when she started seeing in Orange County.

Yeah. Oh, okay. So with Rick Warren. And so when she started seeing me, no more welcome on the stage. Welcome to the church, but you can't sing anymore. Oh, really? Isn't that crazy?

Kind of, especially. It's sad. Love is love. Yeah, and well, especially kind of now, I would have been even and being that it But I guess but I would think I Don't know I wonder if it would if it happened today

Maybe it would even be different than a years ago. Oh, it's just three years ago. Oh, yeah, well, I don't know I don't know but you know No, because I was watching a video of her singing. And so you guys, you guys have a podcast. Yeah. So let's talk about that. All right. I just started it. And a lot of people were asking for it. And also I want to give Leah, her, you know, a platform because she lost it because of me. And the reality is that she has a story to tell. She left a man. She stayed in a marriage for money, right?

That security of money. It's kind of great that she just couldn't admit that. Yeah, I think it's awesome. Every woman do that. So many people don't. I'm always like, just say it. Like I always say, like, listen, there's a lot of women that slept with someone gross to get the part.

Not everybody seems to be in love with that. Not that, but I'm saying like, even to just admit that like, I'm no longer in love with that. Not that, but I'm saying, even to just admit that I'm no longer in love, but the idea of really living my truth, but then I wouldn't even know where to begin to leave. That's what I'm talking about more. I'm just saying the honesty of women, I wish women would be more honest about. So she was with the sky. Yeah, very young age like 24 and then they she was in love in the beginning and then I changed she

Had to end her career, you know, she was singing she had her own TV show on TVN and you know, she had a life and so she was she was Offered of like the TV Christian. Yes network. Yes. Oh, okay, and she was offered to sing with Celine as in Vegas and to relocate and he said no He wouldn't relocate and I remember they were the moment where she goes Orange County Colorado. I don't know But it was like he wouldn't relocate. So she then adopted a baby And then she became a full-time mom and now she re- when she met me. She left him after that then adopted a baby. She tried to divorce them like three times. But did they adopt the child together or like, oh, so then she was

like, I'll fulfill my, I'm just going to focus on motherhood. Well, it came to her. She never wanted to have a baby and then they said we found a child for you She's like I really wasn't looking but okay, and then Byracial and so she took her on sort of love of her life and She's been a great mom her daughter 16 now But what I love about Leah and when we met I'm like you need to leave like not because of me Because then she said you said that so selflessly You have to fulfill your heart and don't stay because it's financially secure and she Broke out of that mold left this massive house and I'll never forget pulling up to this apartment

Like you know you move in after college. Yeah, and she broke down and I go it's temporary She left the big house in Renton and Department. Got a job, you know, started a business and started working. And how long ago was that? Four years ago. Oh, that was so recent. Yeah. And I'm like, you're, you need a platform. Let's do this. You can help so many women who are stuck. She even wrote a song called Stuck when you're trying to move and your feet won't do what you want them to do. Stuck and just like that. You can't go forward and you can't go back. The story of him not letting her sing with Celine, okay? So when I was a little girl in the

NSF5 and I couldn't watch as much TV as I wanted because that's what happens when you have five kids. You're not really like watching if it and I was watching and I'd watch like these made for TV movies, and I was like eight. And there was this one with Priscilla Presley, not Priscilla Presley Presley, anyway, she was like on Dallas, I just remember she was this beautiful girl.

And she was with this rich guy, and every day she was like, in this condo, and he'd come to visit her, whatever. And I think she was a mistress, but, and I'm watching this as a little girl and I'm like, I think I'd like to be this mistress lady. Like, who cares? This is so great.

And she comes running into Sam one time and she goes, you know, like earlier, she's like, I have an audition for a cell property. He's like, hope you get it, honey. He's all nice and showering with her with gifts. And then she next day she comes and she goes, I got the part, you know, and I start filming next week and he goes then next week she comes and she goes, I got the part. And I start filming next week and she goes next week we're going to New York.

That's not only time with you. You can't do the soap act. And I remember seeing as a little girl like, well then I don't want to be that. I would net, I'm like, how can this asshole not let her be on the soap opera? Because me, it's someone watching this. I'm like, oh, I wanna be this LA actress, but how great if you can do it and have this guy, like just let you go shopping and support you.

And it's very rare that you can have both. At eight years old, you had that insight. I saw it, I can see her in the red bathing suit telling him that she got the part. And me being like, well I never want to be beholden to some guy that's gonna not let me miss out on like a huge, because even I was like in eight year old I like knew because I grew up here how hard it is to like book anything.

I was like, oh my god. And then later in the story he dies. And then she's left with nothing because she was the mistress. And so then I was like, oh, that's another thing. Like, if you're gonna be the mistress, you gotta carve out some money for yourself. But it's true, like, that's where she was probably like,

my God, and with this person that I'm not, I'm thinking what she's thinking, like I'm not real, I'm not in for the love, but at least I get to sing in it. And here comes the opportunity of a lifetime. And it's like, no. Yeah. Yeah, I want her to have this platform.

Yeah. Because there are so many women who go, no, they're told no. It's like, but he's not your daddy. You know what I mean? Like, you have a choice. And I love that. And you lose that opportunity then, you know, it's like, and you don't get out.

But we're going to say you love that Leo. Like she broke out, like she took the risk and she had to go to work and a lot of people don't know what they're gonna do. Like what are you gonna do? It's like, well you start with a job, right? And it's very scary when you've had a marriage of a range of her privilege or whatever, you know,

where you're like, you are capable, but it's been so many years since you've done something that you're just like, I don't know what am I gonna do? I don't even know where to begin, you know? And I think that's what's really hard. And when you start, it gets less scary. So the first week is, oh my God, you're almost petrified.

Yeah. Then the second week you're scared. Then the third week you're my god, you're almost petrified. Yeah, then the second week you're scared Right. Then the third week you're getting a little more comfortable and but in a month You're like, well, you can back on me and I should have this 15 years ago. Yeah, you know And that's that's the cool thing. So that's why we do the podcast. Yeah, I love that Yeah, so we were gonna do this whole like get away and And then they asked and they really needed the support because as you know, when you, for the TV show and for the real life, you can't just call captains and go take

over the boat. It's insurances that are involved, background checks, it's a big deal. And then also the TV aspect, yeah. That's correct. And the show must go on. So Leah looked at me and she's like, do it. And I'm like, okay. And you know, you want to be there for each other. My parents died. My mom, I was at a Barcelona boat show and there was a captain that was running a similar boat to me. And I called the insurance company. I had to fly home and he got approved to move the boat for me. It's a big deal when someone steps in to take over on that aspect, then the personal aspect, and then you want to be there for someone and have their back because paying it forward because someone did it for me.

Right. Yeah. So it was a bittersweet. The cool thing was, a boat I never ran before, the biggest boat I ever drove. It was a little intimidated, it was a thousand, almost a thousand tons, like that's a big mama man, that's like big. And then I got to do the Caribbean again, which was really cool. And okay, so I was watching it and you know, obviously what makes it so interesting to watch is that, you know, your approach and everything is so different than the guys, which I've said before, in a much more encouraging way, like really encouraging people's not only careers, but like their growth. And I mean, that just comes, it's just interesting to watch, because these were the couple things

I noticed yesterday, was when they were coming back from the beach, one of the beach things, you were there to help with the coolers. Yes. I have, I personally have never seen with the male captains them doing that. Well, first and foremost, you're putting people out there to, you expect them to do a good job.

I have to demonstrate what kind of good job I want them to do. So I'm the model of the good job. If I'm not out there to greet them and help them to carry the coolers off, how will they respect me as a person? You know, they have to respect the position, but I need to earn their respect as a person and having their back. I also need to show them this is how we show up for each other. And the other part is I can't sit on my butt and

See how hard they're working and do nothing like it doesn't live inside me I grew up enough household of workers, you know what I mean like we had 42 dogs my dad was a hunter we had horses like we had to feed the animals every morning So the work ethic is in me. Yeah. I always thought that besides blowing up the slide, I always thought the worst thing was these beach lunches. Like they're hard. They're so hard. But then, so we went on about my husband

became a captain last year. So we had a catamaran and we went on our own catamaran in the BVIs over Christmas with just my husband, myself and our 20 year old and 17 year old son. And it wasn't as great as I thought it was going to be because you didn't have a captain. We didn't have a captain. We didn't have a chef. We didn't have a chef. And the boys, the boys were only taught by him. And so then, and he's like, we had never been there before. So we didn't know it.

It was like, we had only used the boat in Newport where we had a very easy docky situation and we would go back and forth, because we had a similar boat there. So, but I will say, once you've been on the boat for a while, you do really want to get off. That's right. We for even a little bit. So I can see why they ask for it.

But originally, I thought they were all assholes for ever asking for a beach thing in the beginning of me watching the show. But now I get it. Yeah, it's cool because you anchor off a coast. You want to see the coast, right? So the destination is the vessel. I always say that.

The destination is the boat. Yeah. However, just because that's the destination doesn't mean you want to see it. You don't want to see other places. So I like it when they want to go ashore. It gives the crew a break on the vessel, but when they're doing the beach picnics, it's so hard. Now, Granted, we're watching it for the show.

But when you've done this for other people, like, okay, like if this was just a fancy trip, people still paid the whatever enormous amount of money, could you ever be like, hey, I know you guys want to go to the beach, what we're thinking of is let's do lunch, and then we're going to take it to the beach and we're going to have cocktails and we're going to set up some things, but not to the lunch on the beach. Or would you not do that because they paint so much? Would you ever suggest that knowing that they most likely would say yes and you guys would save yourselves a lot of extra headache? To be honest, we do, in the world of ying, this happens all the time. And it's set up like a five-star restaurant.

We don't have the luxury of time to do that. So remember, we've learned the boat, we take off, we're hoping the stuff's on board, they do their best. Yeah. It is expected in yachting. And it's a regular occurrence. And like when you go to a beach, a resort and they build these tents and it's lavish.

Yeah. Same thing on yawning. Like they're used to doing that. OK. But the boats are set up for that. So when we take over a boat, they're not always set up for that. And also, these crews are getting to know each other,

the personalities. Yeah. When you're working together for year after year after year, it's easier. It's more of a flow. When you each other, the personalities, when you're working together for year after year after year, it's easier, it's more of a flow. When you go back to the Caribbean, you'll know where to go, where to anchor, it'll get easier.

I always suggest, always hire someone in the beginning to show you, and then take it on your own. Yes, that's what we should have done. Yeah, everyone said it was the funnest trip that they've ever gone on, but nobody went with just their own family. And there were some Captain Lee moments with my husband. We're like, God, dare you, idiot!

There was a little of that. Okay, so in the last couple episodes, we have, let me get to Rachel, who is I, oh, I've always been like, wow, she seems like the greatest chef. And this time, she was like running late or there was going to slow. And now they asked for an eight-course meal. They asked for an eight-course meal? I don't, I think they wanted a tasting menu.

Rachel is an excellent chef. Yes, right? So she's so good. Her food is excellent. And her challenge is her. Okay, so then at the end of it, the guy is like, hey, I'm gonna tell you some things that we didn't love. You guys were short a person because this pretty blonde girl

came out and she had to go. Too bad for her. she's very pretty. She'd like to drink on the job and stuff. She cracked me up though, I'm watching that show, I'm laughing so hard. I mean, as a captain, it's, listen, you gotta get it together, but as a viewer, I was, she's great entertainment.

And then like, oh, then she'd been dating a guy for two weeks, so he was crying about it, and then she's like being real Bye, I guess you guys don't don't appreciate it's like okay, so she goes and and then we have our first male Stu on the show Frazier and I think that's a fun dynamic to have a male What do you chiefs do and a chef, because it seems like the majority of the seasons we've seen, that dynamic between the male chef

and the head stew, yeah, being a girl, yeah. So that's really insightful. I don't think anyone's ever picked up on that. Oh, that's really cool. Actually, I haven't even picked up on that. Until now, that's really cool. I never thought of it like that because you usually had the chef yelling at the chiefs too, which is a woman. And now it's the opposite. And they really respect each other and get along better.

Yeah. A lot of the other ones, you know. And then this girl, Alyssa. Now, Alyssa had a breakdown where she just cried and she's like, I'm done. Now, have you found this is another generation you're dealing with. This is Generation Z. Do you feel like there is a little bit like I need a mental health day and things like that more often than like 12 years ago with people, you know? Oh my goodness.

It's so interesting. And you know that you know what I find fascinating? How the corporate world adjusts to the mentality of the people and how they're raised, right? Okay. In order to get product or sell your product, you have to adjust your strategy to work with their mental state. Isn't that crazy?

How many dollars are spent on that? It drives me mad. I mean, I'm thinking just put your big girl pants on. Right. I'm nice and tight. You know, pick yourself up and brush yourself off and go out there. You know, because not everybody's going to cuddle you. Not everybody's going to go, oh my god, they hurt your feelings. It became about feelings. And I've had to learn to check my, became about feelings and I've had to learn to check my, uh, by my tongue and not say what I'm thinking,

but to say what I need to say in order to get productivity out of people. And it's, it's a learning curve. And when these people, when the guy left with the pregnant wife, and he was like, yeah, we had a great time, but like there was this and that, you know, a couple of things that weren't done, but here's like your big, you know, and you guys, that was a good tip.

But like, do you ever feel when you do get something like that? Like, this isn't going to be that great. I don't know why a gratuity is gratuity. It's based on your performance, right? So, um, basically, I think in our world of yachting, crew have an expectation which they should not have. Yeah, let me private boats out there, do not tip their crew. Yeah, me times they give them to their friends,

they don't get tipped, they get paid. The tip is a gratuity, it's not expected. What do you mean they lend their boat out to their friends? Yeah, they say here, take my boat, take my crew. And the owners will know. The owners will know. Oh, but then those people know tip. No, they don't. Oh, they say here, take my bow, take my crew. And the owners will know. The owners will know. Oh, but then those people will know.

No, they don't tip. Oh, I have a good question for you. Okay. I've been secreting, manifesting, going on a mega yacht situation, and I have met someone. Not, I mean, I'm with my husband, but I mean, we met like another couple that are nice. Right.

Good clarification. And I kind of like threw it out there. And I'm like, I said it to my husband, I'm like, do you think maybe we could do this? And they are like, we'll be on the boat outside of this place for like a month and a half, you know, come, you could come and stay with us, you know. So my question is, what's the class, like what's the classy protocol?

Because my first thought is, I think we should go, I think we should like definitely get a hotel part of the time, either a little before go spend like three nights with them and then come back and be on our hotel just so A, we have that balance. Also we're not complete free loaders. So let's say that's the scenario. So we're on their may yacht for three days hanging out at whatever, jumping off the thing, doing whatever. Now as like the non-primary, just guessed of someone, what is the protocol of treating

the staff and not so you invited back? Okay, so person for most, you've been invited. Most charters are paid by one person and they invite people. You're not expected to pay the crew. You're not expected to tip the crew. That's on the primary, always on the primary. When you're invited, they really mean that. So I agree with you, I'd have a hotel just in case,

because sometimes personalities don't mix. You need a break. I think it's a great, I would say, yeah, we're here these days, what days work for you that we come on board. Right, that's what I would do. And they invited you, so they ment it. How much alcohol was involved is my first question.

Because it was friends of mine go, hey, yeah, I'm gonna do this, this, and the next day they're like, no, I'm not doing that. And I'm not doing that. Like I just said, like I just wrote and I go, we're seriously thinking about looking to go in April. And like so after it was thrown out there,

I'm giving several outs. Yeah. And before we could like really looking at flights, but I mean, I'm just like, when will I have this opportunity? And I just want to after my BVI experience, I would like to just. Yes. And you will have a great experience. Oh, and people just don't offer that up. They mean it, you know, especially at that level. They're not, you know, they can have anyone on board. It's right. So you had that offer.

I would take them up on it, but I like your strategy. I think it's great. Yeah. And just ask them what days work for them. Like I always remember my dad had a saying like, if you can be talking about like some couple or something, he'd be like, well, I wouldn't want to be on a houseboat with them for a week. So I always think of that about being on a boat with someone and also guests are like fish, they spill after three days.

So I always feel like three nights is a good measure where people don't feel totally put out. You know? Because I have another story for you where someone was invited on a boat and they all stayed. They all left together. There was a primary. There are friends left, so I know both sets of people. They left, but the friends that were invited went back to the boat and stayed on the boat.

And he didn't know it. For how long? For like a week. the staff yeah catering to them and they didn't know it and that is not cool that's what anadele v did in the netflix special you know anadele v is she's the the criminal with the accent that like i wonder where they got that idea yeah i think they got that idea from watching that maybe because i mean i think i don't know how much of the thing was true because it was like a scripted story about it but that was part of it that she met this young this lady and then like came back on and then the woman is

like get off my like called and was like what the hell are you doing get off the boat like she's like oh it's just sitting here out in the ocean my cat we have some fun like what's your problem? Yeah, like it's Yeah, they were friends though like they were like long term friends So they said the primaries didn't care or you think they did oh they did They felt they didn't manage but they took advantage Because you know when you've been offered and offered and offered a lot of people it becomes their home

Right, you know, so a lot of crew do that on a boat. That's where they, it becomes their boat. I'm like, no, this isn't your boat. You know. Right. Yeah. So, and yeah, like there was a, I don't know what season it was, but there was one where, you know, the crew had become a couple. They were romantic to the people and it was a night that you think they didn't have any people there, you know, and the couple did go in the main cabin and like, slept together. I mean, Kran, they were to clean the sheets. I guess that's okay. No, no, no, it's not okay. Okay. No, no. You know what? I have to tell you the story. One time, I worked for a founder of a bank. We just finished a charter show. My crew worked their butts off. Right. The chef goes, Hey, can I get a massage

on board? And I'm not sure. There was a broker that came on the boat and they were showing it for sale. He opens the cabin and my chef's getting a massage. Guess what? He emails the owner. The owner writes me the email forwards it to me, call me to discuss. I was like, you paid your pants a little? Oh my God, I called them out and he was like, never let that happen again. Never and I go, I apologize, I wasn't aware of it, I did approve the massage on board,

I figured it would be in the main salon and he goes, I figured you didn't know about it, Sandy, never let it happen again. Clunk and I was like, okay, whew, because it's not allowed, it's their space. It's like walking into someone's sweet. Have you ever TV or not kicked off, then you just cannot be here anymore with the guests

or didn't but really, really wanted to and why. One time I was in the crew, no, I was in the med running a boat and the client was really obnoxious sexually to my crew and I called his broker. I actually two times and I say get your client under control. Keep his hands off my crew or I'm kicking out. Where you see his broker so meaning he wanted to have this vacation so he went through a broker who then like books that like a hotel. Yeah. Okay.

So they're the filter for us right? Yeah. So we don't we still want to show them a good time but the broker needs to reprimand them not us. Okay. Got it. Because then he's going to be pissed off at us. Right. And then we're gonna ruin their vacation. So there's always that smoke of mirrors.

Like, she did and he only left us 750 euros. It was a terrible tip. Oh my God. And the crew works so hard. Another guy, Russian client didn't really speak English, but you could hear him sue, right? So he was yelling at Port de Churvo because we weren't getting to docked fast enough. So I called his broker and said,

your broker is going to get us blood. I mean, your client's going to get us blacklisted from Porto Servo. He's yelling, I'm going to sue you, and it's broken English, but they can understand that, and she called them and she turned it around. Yeah, but two times I never kicked anyone off

Like this the last thing you want to do you want to find a way To in your charter on a good note every one of those charters. I had another charter was a million euro charter She was all her guests were awful to the crew So I went to her and I said listen She was, her guests were awful to the crew. So I went to her and I said, listen, this is a lawyer. She actually wanted to get into yachting. Like they're not stupid people. They're educated.

My hearing memory was this on the show. No. OK, continue. Yeah. And they're here to please you. And when you're there constantly getting beat down, their smiles are going to be harder to put on. Their spirits are crushed. You want them, you know, a little graciousness

would work. So it turned around like that, you know, then they were like, because the crew were actually calling on Mama Bear, Baby Bear and Papa Bear, and I'm like, they can hear you. Stop with the Mama Bear, Papa Bear. And so at the end, they're saying about them. Yes. Okay, that's funny. Yeah, but because it was like, um, and when they walked off, they gave us 100,000 euros and they said baby bears apologize. Like, they heard the crew. Oh, really? And since that moment, I said, never again, are you allowed to talk about the guests, do it in the crew mess.

Right. What do you think about, um, you know, because we all love to see when the crew get horny with each other. And I am like sometimes just like very shocked, you know, and they do this on a lot of shows, whether it's summer house or whatever, where it's like, you're like seeing them like bone. I know.

I just like, don't let your kids watch this show. I mean, are you a result? I'm like, come with their eyes. Like, I'm like, okay, I mean, I can see what people want to do it because the job itself is great, but now you're on TV. And not only are you on TV, but you're working really hard on the real show,

but then like you're revealing, like, I was just watching the panel, I was just watching the panel Anderson doc, you know, and how devastated she was when the video got stolen and you know about she and Tommy and their intimate moments and I'm like, God, cut to 20 years later and these kids are doing it for a reality show basically. Like it is to me kind of shocking like they forget, they forget the fourth wall, they forget that camera's on. They're drinking, they are not thinking.

Like that reasonings out the window. They wake up the next day and go, when you guys go and I know it's part of the show too, like you guys did so great, you're going to get to go out and have this fun day. And I mean, is it in hard though? Like sometimes I'm like, God, the next chart is only thirty hours away can they really party be hung over and like whip it together in such a short time i just don't think anything sounds worse and yes being really hung over on about they do

they do what whip it together that's right kill that so they'll whip it together because that's their young i guess you're right yeah they do like it's so interesting how they do it. But we drink Baraka a lot of it. What's Baraka? It's like your version of emergency. Oh, oh, okay. Oh. And they will live on Red Bull. Yeah, they live on Red Bull.

And of course, you've been sober really a long. Like, yeah, the majority of your life now, right? How long has it been? 33 years. Yeah. And have there ever been a time in those 33 years that you've been tempted and triggered? Tempted no, but wishing I could just, you know, drink and forget. Yeah, because sometimes you just want to relax and my concern is if I do, I can I might just take that boat and drive it wherever I want it.

Is there ever been a situation where you would have made a different decision had the cameras not been there? No. Okay so I am a captain. I think like a captain. I have been doing this for a long time. What I do do is slow down and pause because we are making a TV show. I make a decision, I execute.

The difference here is I make a decision, I discuss with production, and then we figure out the avenue of how to get replacements, right? So it isn't like you can just, like in even in real yawning, we do background checks. Like you have to go through this whole thing to get people on board. When it's a decision that affects my license, I call my maritime attorney. They say fire them, I call my maritime attorney. They say fire them, I fire them. When I'm in those moments where, because I'm filming a show, right, I want it to be successful. And should I fire, is there any way I can get around this?

And if my maritime attorney says no, you need to fire them. I do that. Right. And I follow their, you know, suggestions, which they charge me. And did that happen in the show with Hannah? Of course. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I, there's been a couple times where I've called my maritime attorney and said, I don't know what to do here. Yeah. That's great. You guys. Yeah. Because I worked hard. I have a federal license. Right. With the United States, I'm a federal person that has a federal license that could go to

prison. Right. You know, like, you don't break the law for anybody. And if, you know, there's a boat called Monkey Business when President Bush was president. And they, Oh, Monkey Business, that was the famous. Who was the, um, yeah, who was monkey business that was the famous who was the Yeah, who was the girl that was sitting on the politicians laugh on monkey business And then his whole career went down the tube right that guy because they seized his boat But who was that I know I know I mean yes Donna rice and Gary hard Gary hard was a politician who like was set to probably win the presidency And then he was on monkey business with someone other than his wife, which was Dona Rice. So there was pot found on the boat, and they seized the boat.

Oh, okay. I'm sure maybe, I don't know, like the backstory of all of that. Right, yeah, yeah. So you hear these examples all the times, and in my industry, they do random drug testing. Do you know when you go into a different country, they don't always like you there, right?

So you're obviously doing business with them, but you're flying different flags. It's very, you have to fit into their country. Is it their job to make you feel comfortable? Right. Well, thanks so much. This has been really fun. And how many more episodes do you have left of this?

I don't know. Oh, okay. Do you know? Yeah, until like March. Oh, so we have a lot left. Yeah. Okay, we have a lot left and then of course your other season then comes after that. And yeah, I hope one day maybe I will be on one of your boats.

Hey, that would be awesome. Yeah. Well, go on the other one you were invited. Yeah, we're going to work that out. Yeah. Great. Thanks for having me. Thanks, you guys, for listening.

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