Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Scammed in Italy, Olympics, RHONJ with Brandy and Julie

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

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You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Woo woo. Hannah McDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. It's me, I'm back in the LA offices

with your two favorite girls, females, Julie Goldman, Brandi Howard, the dynamic duo of Dumb Gay Podcast, the stars of the once famed TV show, the one and the only original People's Couch, often imitated, never duplicated. Back! We are back!

Welcome! We missed you. You should have. I mean, we were like, our lives were not the same. Thank you. We're like, where is Heather? Demanding we call her each morning. You left us to die.

I didn't really feel that was reciprocated that we missed us really oh my god I totally miss you and there was so much to catch up on and I'm like I'm dying I'm dying and then you're like at like a 10 on a Thursday you're like we will call you Friday morning I'm like Friday morning was the next morning yeah we were like Heather needs to wait. She has abandoned us for three weeks. Our friendship, I'm like, does she even care about us? I know.

Oh my gosh. But you know what, the funny thing about you, and this is what people don't really, I don't think they understand. You got, you did more locally social things in Italy and France and got more. I was like, did she she saw more people that we know abroad than we saw in the last three weeks? That's true. It's so funny. So for those of you don't know, and I can't believe that you don't, please realize that I was in

France and Italy, SantorTropez, Cannes, and then Capri, Positano, and then on a mega yacht with these fabulous friends that I met through Kelly Dodd-Leventhal. And so we only had one day where we crossed over, because basically they're living on this yacht for a couple months. And if you've seen Below Deck, what I was

on makes Below Deck look like a fishing boat from... What was that? Steinbeck, Old Man in the Sea, or whatever that was. That's what it makes it look like. Well, I think Jill Zarin said it best. Like, where are... Where's the mouthwash? Oh, yeah. Where's the K-tips? By the way, I talked about on my Patreon, join Heather B. Dallin on that, I suggest you do. And I forgot to finish that story

because I was telling everybody about it. And yes, in every bathroom, we had a beautiful suite and in my suite was an expensive face serum, shampoo, conditioner, hair serum. in my suite was an expensive face serum, shampoo, conditioner, hair serum, all the accoutrements for your hair. You wanna blow it, you wanna straighten it, but I didn't need to because one of the fabulous crew members, one of the stews, is also a hairdresser.

And we went into the parlor part where there are two hair stations to get your hair blown out and done. And so the last day, I did get my hair blown out and done. It never stopped. I ate so much. The food was absolutely tears in my eyes, crying how delicious everything was. Peter and I never turned down a meal, a dessert, an appetizer.

Oh, it must have been a meat, I mean, just the pasta alone. And we were swimming every day. There's candles in every room with a scent. Well, no, no candles, because I think it's like a fire hazard. Well, we got candles from your lovely host, because we learned what candles she has on the yacht. Oh, that's right. And we ordered them. Oh. And now we have them at home, as if we has on the yacht. Oh, that's right. And we ordered them.

Oh. And now we have them at home as if we're on the yacht with you. We played, we're on the yacht once we. We probably did have, I don't even know. But every day there was a different place setting for every single meal. So different silverware, gold or silver,

all different plates, different placemats, different things. The girls and the guys all wore different uniforms every single day that were stylish, cute uniforms, the cutest uniforms you've ever seen. On another yacht, I saw what they were wearing and I was like, like, like, yeah. Yeah, our girls had like spaghetti strap, like body suits in a different color with the score.

And then the guys wore like the polo version of that color. Each different. But were then the guys wore, like, the polo version of that color, each different. But were you guys formal dining, like, dressing for dinner? A little bit, like, I'd throw on some stuff, but other times it was like, it didn't really matter. It was very casual. But sometimes I'd throw on a dress. I only once did I really do my hair or anything.

I mean, we swam every day, jet ski. It was just so fun, and I went in detail with it on the Patreon. But after we left the yacht, we had two days in Rome. And now you were forced to do tourist stuff, which you made clear to us. You were looking for poolside sexy breasts tanning. Listen, the reason I never went is because Shannon, my sister, went to Greece between her sophomore and junior year of college through some program.

Went to a bunch of places. She did that. And I thought, oh, I'll do that too, through the school or whatever. And when we picked her up and she told me how hot it was in Greece and that in their crappy place, they had no air conditioning, and that she and her sorority sister or whatever were laying naked on wet towels and then looked up and saw a guy jerking

off to them. I said, I think I'm going to wait until I'm 50 and rich enough to go to a hotel with air conditioning. And that's what I did. And that's what I did. So yes, there were still times it was very hot. It's very crowded, whatever. But that's why I wanted to be near the sea,

swim as much as possible, enjoy it like that. I do want to say, Julie and I did go to the Colosseum in Rome. Oh yes, yes. So you were in Athens or were you in Rome? No, we went to Rome and we were staying in a great hotel right across from the Colosseum and we went to the Colosseum. So we did that, the same exact, actually we went to Rome and we were staying in a great hotel right across from the Colosseum and we went to the Colosseum. So we did that, the same exact,

actually we went in August. It was hotter than the seven suns and I did think I was gonna lose my life. Like I was like, I can't, it's like dirt. I don't know if it's reflecting off. And it's so hot and it's like, fuck the history. We don't care. Literally it can be like, this is where Jesus walked in. It's like, fuck the history, we don't care. Literally, it could be like, this is where Jesus walked in,

it's like, I can't deal. And so, and that, I know this had to have happened with you guys, cause nobody plans, and you think you're just gonna roll up and be like, get in the line. And be like, let's just walk through at our leisure, and it's 15 minutes, and oh, that's neat, that's where they did like the killing and stuff,

and like Russell Crowe, and then leave. Yeah, is this what Russell Crowe was? Is that where he? Is that where Russell Crowe did the movie? I mean, we went to Paris two years ago and it was so hot and so crowded. We almost killed each other. I mean, now like, this was the only month I could do it.

But now that Brandon is gonna be gone, once I schedule like my next 2025 tour. Yes, I wanna go back and I wanna go on months that are not summer months to all these places, whether it's May or September, October. I don't, it is very, but what is great about going this time is that the water's so warm.

So when you're on the mega yacht, it doesn't matter. But when you're walking up the steps of Positano, I mean like it was just, okay so then Peter had ordered this thing that is a fan that you clip onto your pants and you can put it under your shirt. What? Yes, it arrived once we got home.

And he put it on and I'm like, oh my God, we are contacting this company, I am going to sell it. It is amazing and everyone should have one. Every menopause a woman and everybody traveling. It's genius. We could have it under our skirts right now. It's not expensive. It's $10. Well when we're done, they're going to give the name and the thing. I'm so annoyed that

I don't have a great dress. Did you guys get grifted? Well first of all, we got a little scammed at the Coliseum. So let me tell you quickly what happened. So we get up. By the way, what I also love is I can't get over the free breakfast at every hotel that we stayed at. Because normally, the nicer hotels you go to in America

do not include a free breakfast. They don't even have a Keurig in your room, which is one of the reasons I don't like very nice hotels because sometimes I just want a fucking coffee right then as I get ready to do my show or wake up in the morning. I just want the gross cheap coffee, okay? Well, this, anything you want, every hotel, it was specialty eggs, full buffet,

if you want a latte, all included. I'm just shocked by it. Yeah. So good, I love a European. I think the shocked by it. Yeah. So good. I love a European. I think the free breakfast is like the most shocking thing of all. For whatever reason.

And then there's like a tray of like ham and turkey and cheese. It's wet, but it's fine. I don't care. Yeah. I don't care. Sliced tomatoes, cottage cheese, dates. It's like lunch food in the morning. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Bread of every kind. Baguettes, other bread, croissant, then more bread. It's amazing. It's so great. I know. And I'm like, what do you mean? So if I get an eggs benedict, that's a special thing.

No, it's included. What? So that was all amazing. So we go over to the Coliseum. We only have a day and a half there. We're only two nights. First day, we were like super tired. We walked around a little. And then we went and I said, where do we even buy the

tickets? The guy's like, right there. We're right in front of the Coliseum, right there. Peter's like, no, he's trying to do some app thing. And then we start to like, argue a little bit. Because I'm like, why don't we just go there and see what, and he's like, it's right here. And that must have been a cue for the scammers to go, Oh, here's a middle aged couple from America bitching at each other. They're ripe for the picking. So this guy comes over with a cigarette and he's like, you want to see get a private tour of the Coliseum?

You can cut into a line, go right now. I'm like, yeah, we do. Because we're seeing that like we can't go till four o'clock or something on the app. So he's like, come follow me. Now we follow this other bow-legged guy who's also smoking. Then we get to another. We go walk very far away.

Then we get to another person who takes us across the street to this woman who's the tour guide lady who's like, it's 100 euros. And we're like, I go, well, I only have $100 bills. Well, then it'll be 120. OK, fine. So now we have our $120. So now it's only like 9.45. And I'm like 120. Okay, fine. So now we have $120. And so now it's only

like 945. And I'm like, Okay, so do we go now back to the Coliseum and cut into the line and see the thing? No, you have to go over here and buy your two tickets. Oh, no. To for the $18. They're the tour guides. They say, okay, so now we go back. And I'm still getting scammed. I'm with you. Yeah. And I think it sounds like it's $120. Peter, we have a story for the podcast. Worst Kip's story. So we go over there. Now we do get our two tickets. So we're like, worst comes to worst. We never see these people again. We still have tickets that are let us in at 11 o'clock. Okay. So that's decent. So then we meet this really, this really cute English

black English guy, gorgeous, and his two little sons who are German. They speak German and English. And I'm like, this is the cutest family. And they're part of the scam too. I'm like, are you part of the scam? Yeah, we're part of the scam. Like, I didn't say scam.

I'm like, oh, are you with these weird people? Yes. And then this other couple, okay, who are English. And so a man and a woman. And so then now they're like, just wait, get your tickets. We all buy our 18 tickets, and we go back to the tour guide lady. And then a new guy comes along. And it was a lady. I thought it was a bow-legged man. There's seven, there's been eight people, seven people total involved in the skit.

And women too. So, yes. So then we get over and we're waiting. And then a new person comes and he goes, it's going to be just like five minutes. And then Peter goes, they're gonna stall us because there is no cutting in line. We're just gonna go in with everybody else at 11. And I'm like, oh my God, you're right. So now it's like 10, 10.

And then he's like, do the little boys need to get something to eat? They probably do. So they're gonna go get something to eat and then we'll all go together. I'm like, that's fine, they're adorable. And like I'm dying over the German accent. They're like, Papa.

Yeah, like daddy. And you're like, what? We also like that. Yeah, we also all go together. I'm like, that's fine, they're adorable. And like I'm dying over the German accent. They're like, papa. Yeah, like daddy. Anyway, what? Wihantra likes that. Yeah, Wihantra likes that daddy. The older one spoke both languages. He goes, but my little brother, he goes, but my little brother only can understand the German. He goes, he can understand English, but he can't speak it.

But he can speak German. A bit of it. And then you talk to him and I'm like, oh my God. And Peter's like, are you gonna try to steal these kids? I'm like, a little bit. like I was just like into the kids. Okay, so they love two boys. They're both like, I have two sons too. And they're like gorgeous and the guy's gorgeous.

He's like, oh, I miss Miami. I'm like, I bet you do, gorgeous thing. Okay, so then. Dad, stop talking to that lady. I have a bunch of rebounds here. Daddy, why are you talking to that lady? I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I'm German. I'm very specific. And, um, but it's so not scary or offensive when it's coming out of like, a tiny child, like a nine year old gorgeous boy. So anyway, so then, so then we got, he's like asking questions. So it's like so smart. So anyway, finally get over to the thing,

and now we cross, and now she's talking to us, and she's stalling, now we have the girl with the umbrella, now we have the ear thing, and we're listening. And so I was like, okay, so we, I'm like, so at 9.30, I could have bought the ticket right there, probably got in at 10, not heard the person, but had the same, whatever. And the person starts draining you anyway.

Yeah, she's good, whatever. So we're walking through, and then she's like, so it's a 50 steps up, or if you need to, you could have the elevator. Well, the little kids and the fit guy from my, the English guy, dad, they're like, no, we'll take the stairs. And the old English man goes, I'll take the stairs. And the woman, the English woman, she's like, no, we'll take the stairs. And the old English man goes, I'll take the stairs. And the woman, the English woman, she's like, no,

I need the elevator. And Peter's like, no, Peter's like, I'm taking the stairs too. So we walk by, I see the stairs. And I go, no, I'm going to take the elevator. It's hard. Peter, see you in 30 minutes. Yeah, and so then the woman who's in charge of the elevator

looks at the other woman and accepts that she needs it, okay? And looks at me and is like, these elevators are reserved for handicapped people only. But were you wearing shorts and did she see the very minuscule leg that they're going on? The legs are thin? I could possibly be like, I don't know if those legs can make it up the stairs. Daddy, her legs are so skinny, daddy. So I immediately go, I have a handicapped husband. And then Peter looks at the stairs, like he's sweaty, he looks at me, and he just kind of came over and did a little like limp or two. And then we get in the elevator

and then she started saying something, I wasn't listening. She's like, and it's a, you know, you could be thrown in jail for this. And I'm like, wait, I could be thrown in jail for being in the elevator if I'm not legally handicapped? And she's like, oh no, no. She goes, if you were to write anything on the Coliseum walls.

I was like, oh, like, I just was, it's such a fourth grade field trip. I was just like, I can't. And then of course walls. I was like, oh, like, I just was just such a fourth grade field trip. I was just like, I can't. And then of course, the German kid was like asking, you know, all the questions, which is great. You know, he was so smart. But anyway. Especially like Julie's like the German kid. Oh, and then at one point we lost the hot German dad. Well, the dad's English, but we lost their dad. And so then I was like, stay with me. And Peter was like, oh my God, you're so weird. And I'm like, stay with me, boys.

Where's your dad? I just don still want him to like never come back. So then we go out and I do my USC cheer since it's the Coliseum. Have to. Good fun content. And then that was it. And so, and we still tipped her, even though she was part of the scam, we still tipped her. So we're ripped off by a hundred by the hundred

I think yes, I don't know if it was going to be extra to have the lady or not I don't know, but I think it was but also I got ripped off from like an hour and a half a time Here's my experience and this is real. Yes, we the tickets get sold out and you do have to wait in a really long line And like I said, it was hotter than seven suns and I don't even recall an elevator But well, this is in athens. This is at the park, but I also got to the hotter than seven suns and I don't even recall an elevator but well this is in Athens this is at the park but I also got to the Coliseum where they say don't whatever and I did steal a rock and I do still have it and I was like I will be taking this rock from the million-year-old in days well I'm so scared to see the YouTube comments about this rock but go

on yeah well I mean it was I can't I was a pebble. It's all falling down. Doesn't matter, go and find Brandy and pick at her. I took the rock. So the thing is, it's like, it's a long line you can't get in, so you pay to basically skip the line. And then unfortunately, you are stuck with the guide, which you don't want, because what you want to do is walk through in your own 20-minute time to be free. And Julie and I were stuck for hours and we were dying.

We did do Pompeii with a group and a private person. And I thought that if you can do that, I think that is way more fascinating than the Coliseum. To me, I think the Coliseum is really cool. But if you don't get inside to look inside, it's okay. Like if for some reason you couldn't get inside, but you could just go past it or whatever. But the forum or whatever is out in the front

was what I thought was right. Yes, and I also heard, and I wish I would've done this, is there's these golf carts where they drive you around for like two hours and you can see everything in Rome from a breezy golf cart. That's what I'm talking about. And that happened to us. I wish I would've done that.

In Jordan. So that's my tip. Oh, in Jordan, oh! We saw people on golf carts and we were like, oh, you. We went to Petra, done that in Jordan Jordan. Oh, we saw people on golf carts, and we were like we went to Petra Petra in Jordan where it's even hotter than Italy or Athens or anything It's like it's 10 miles and they walk from we you know that you probably would recognize or remember what where it is It's that thing that's in the facade. It's in the mountain. It's from the Indiana Jones movie, right whatever So you go and you think that you walk in you pay and you're gonna walk down the thing and then you're gonna go No miles you have to walk for miles and then we're walking. We're dying over your hair

I didn't have a thing over my hair. Oh, he's buying golf carts and I was golf carts Look up the golf cart things people now listen a million people sent me Now listen, a million people sent me recommendations and all that stuff and it was a little overwhelming. So, and the hotel that we were at in Rome was a great hotel, it didn't have a pool, but I'm glad it didn't because it forced us to go. I went to the fountain, we walked around a little bit. We did have one guy try to give Peter the bracelet.

You know what the bracelet scam? This guy's just like, hello man, let me, where are you from? I'm like, Peter, don't talk to him. And he's like, oh, I'm from Los Angeles. Don't talk to him. And then they try to put a bracelet on you and then say, this bracelet's $20 or whatever.

And then you're just like, oh my God, just get away from me. But never was pickpocketed. Nothing like that came close. But of course, that's all the videos I was seeing because I was on this algorithm of like the awful shit. Right. I fell for the scam of the lady like that. What's that?

She's leaning down. Benched over, yeah. She's an older woman. She's down like that and she needs help. Okay. But then she just stands up and walks away and I'm like well she was 17. But wait and then does she try to grab your purse? No she just gets money because she's an older lady.

Very hunched over, down almost to the ground, and goes like that. And I'm like, oh, that's so sad. Wait. And then she just stands up and walks away. See you later. More in shape than me. I'm like, okay. Well, you know, in Spain, oh wait, by the way, let me just talk about this.

So well, I'm going to get back to that. But first I'll just say we had a great show in San Diego. Julie fucking killed it. Everybody loved Julie's standup. And it was awesome. We had a great time in San Diego. And then someone sent me this. And here I am in Times Square at the Palladium.

October 11th, you guys. I will be there. So many other shows. The next show with Brandi and Julie is in Vegas September 21st, which is Rome, which is the Venetian. So we're going to Rome. We're going to Rome.

We're going to Rome and it's air conditioned and shops and you get to see a comedy and you get to go to Venice and you get to see it all. you get to go to Venice and you get to see it all and that will be super super fun. But I came across this guy, very funny comedian named Dan, Dan Rosen and he did this TikTok that went viral where he's just like was talking about how in Spain I guess the Spanish people are getting very annoyed at how much tourism has grown in Spain and they're like throwing water at the people eating in cafes and getting all angry about it. And so he does this tick tock where he's like, I'm sorry, Europe, but you're our adult Disneyland. You are America's adult Disneyland, where we come and look at your

little castles and look at your little thing. And's like maybe if you're in China and making solar panels you wouldn't have to only be making money off of us and your cheese but like stop bitching you get to retire at 42 you get to have nine months of maternity leave or paternity leave yeah like and take a two hour nap every day yeah so people were like mad at him but then of course a lot of it was like, wow, that's a really interesting take. Everybody I met was lovely. I loved all the food, loved all the restaurants, thinks it's, I think it's super fun. I'm so glad I got my first, dipped my first toe in it.

I'm gonna do Lake Cuomo and Florence next. Of course I'll do Paris when it's not the Olympics. We need to do Ireland. I've already done Ireland twice. But have you really done it with the fam? Well, we are going to go, Irish people. That's right. For Drake's graduation.

Good. And Peter's 60th birthday. They are going to play some golf, either in Scotland or Ireland, or both. And then I will join them and then we'll go do something else after. But we are looking for, and actually McDonald, the way I spell it, is originally, originally,

originally Scottish. Somehow we made it over to Ireland. But originally our name is Scottish. We are looking to get to Scotland and Ireland. We could do a show because they speak English. So we could do a show because they speak English. So we could do a show in England, Ireland, Scotland. We could do some shows. Listen, girls trip.

Girls trip. No, with Drakey Poo and the fam. Oh, the fam. Yeah, oh the fam. So they're doing golf. We'll be golfing in the day and we can be buying cashmere sweaters and looking at sheep.

We would totally go. We would. We've been dying to go there. That would be really, really fun. And I do have relatives there that I can find. Big news, big, big news happened, obviously, when I was gone. And life-changing news, world-American changing news.

And that is that JoJo Siwa wants to have triplets. Mm-hmm. And, um... Eddie, Teddy, and... Bretty, her... Freddie. Eddie, Teddy, and Freddie. JoJo Siwa did an interview, and she's like,

well, I want to have three kids, um, and I have to... I can't do it the conventional way, because I'm gay as fuck. And I'm like... They're like, what are you gonna have to, well, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna make three babies from the same batch so that I'll be full siblings, but I'm gonna put them in three different surrogates. So maybe they'd have the same birthday, but maybe they wouldn't, but they'd be the same

age. So they'd be raised as triplets, but maybe not all have the same birthday. And I'm gonna name Eddie, Teddy, and Freddie. And I just want to tell you guys that in my diary, I swear to God, of when I was nine, which I have, I said, if I have triplets, I want to have two boys and a girl, Jimmy, Timmy, and Kimmy.

And if I have quadruplet girls, I want them to be Holly, Molly, Polly, and Dolph. So I'm just telling you, the arrested development on this chick is honestly kind of sad. I agree, we discussed it. It's beyond. I was obsessed with the names like you, where I was like, I go,

because I wanted to name my original kids Rainy and Ryder, which is what Kate Hudson named her kids, she has a kid named Rainy and Ryder. So I'm like, my names have since evolved of the children I will never have, but Julie was more like this. I'm like discussing the names Julie's like this. She can have children Why would you carry one like it's the easiest thing in the world Do it all lesbians do have a party get a turkey baster shove it in and get pregnant I mean I get it. Maybe some people don't want to, but you can get pregnant because you're so young.

You're 19 and she's a gay man. Well, I mean, I can make them all boys, Eddie, Freddie and Teddy, because I'm making it the batch. And I'd only, like, she's just like thinking like, oh, because you can now make these kids not the natural way, I'll just do it this way. Hire three surrogates, like, what? She's also so rich. It's also so... Entitled and so... not the natural way, I'll just do it this way. Hire three surrogate, like what?

It's also so, it feels very, it's so like, you're talking about human life. And you're, I'm not just imagining the chick that's like scrolling through her phone for her third IVF transfer. And then she has to see this idiot in her construction bedazzled shirt, talking about how she's gonna do this and she's 19.

And some like 41 year old woman who's just like, I hope. You spent her life saving. Yeah, I hope this egg retrieval works. Like, you're just an idiot. An idiot. She's tone deaf, she doesn't read the room, she's completely entitled.

She's so arrogant. She's childish. Like beyond, she's childish. We're reading her diary of you when you were nine years old and you shouldn't be knowing. Stop copying me, you loser. Yeah. I mean.

Oh my God. It's so annoying. Somewhere Drake knows he almost became Holly and Polly with Brandon. I know. He was almost Timmy and Jimmy and they're like, thank you, Jesus. I remember Drake, Peter was like,

I have the middle name for Brandon, because we agreed Brandon, Brandon Alexander. And I'm like, that's an alcohol drink for Brandy Alexander. And I go, and then his initials would be bad, B-A-D. And we are not doing that because then he'll possibly live up to it. So no, it's Brandon Patrick. My mother's, by the way, when we go to Ireland, speaking of my mother's initials are PIG That's terrible, that's awful. She would say it she would make a joke. I'm not saying anything out of turn, but she always says

My older brothers realized what my initial spelled. Okay H a ham Look what I became a fucking ham And for those of you don't know because I didn know, I'm like, what do you mean? Because I like ham sandwiches, and they're dying laughing, they're rolling over. I'm like six. And they're like, she is, she's such a ham.

Meaning you love attention, love da-da-da. So I'm saying, like, then I heard that, and I was like, I guess I have to fulfill that. So that's why I didn't want Brandon's to be bad. Let's talk about the opening of the Olympics, the opening ceremonies. A couple interesting things before we get into it because I've been, you know, again seeing all these videos, persons like I spent six thousand dollars on this ticket for opening ceremonies and they're just like seeing like the one little boat go by. It was very interesting, like people thought they

were getting good tickets and then they didn't or were like, who is this weird singer? Anyway, so the biggest thing was that it was sponsored by RuPaul's Drag Race, and, no, just kidding. What? That tracks so hard. People were like, okay, what's going on here? And I was more offended by the lack of, and I read somewhere that apparently

the dancers skipped rehearsal because they said they were mistreated. And that that because I could not believe how off the dancers were We were watching it and their legs were like and they were dancing like Jojo Siwa. They're like, oh no, like it was so far from like the Rockettes and stuff. I'm like, what is this? Like this is not even good dancing. I don't care about, you know, the guys and the girls and whatever, I was like, but I was just offended by that the dancing was like not at all in sync. They bit off a little more than they could chew. I mean, I didn't even get to watch it from the beginning to the end, but I saw clips

and I was like, they're really trying something. Cause we got the building, we got the people, we got the boats, we got the dancers, we got the music. It's like the whole city's involved. Where can you even see anything? It was crazy. So the biggest thing is with all the characters that were doing the opening,

then I guess posed in the classic Last Supper painting style with Jesus in the middle and his disciples. And so that's when they were just like, and this was not the only thing that Christians felt that were was offensive to them. There was, you know, a couple other biblical things that I didn't really get this dark course and there was something else. And other people like, it's art, get over.

Anyway, they did say, we're sorry. They did. They didn't say we're sorry. We didn't say, we're sorry, we didn't realize, and we didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. And who apologized? France to? France to the- Americans?

No, just, no, France to the world. To the world, they just were like, we're really sorry, that wasn't our intention, and it was this person's vision, and it wasn't about that, and it wasn't about this, and we're sorry. An art historian did point out that, though that does look exactly like The Last Supper,

that most of it, that there's also, they added Greek gods. So there's another, that tableau moves into another tableau of another kind of famous painting of the feast of the gods. Now some are saying that that's what that's what was supposed to be. So the gods- Should make, the Olympics are Greek.

Because it's the Olympics and it's Greek, so the feast of Dionysus, which is this thing with the gods, with Dionysus is the god of wine and fun and merriment, that guy in blue with the crown wasn't Jesus, that was Dionysus. And that there are other gods that were coming in to take over all of that. So there was that whole train of thought.

The other thing is, when I was on Chelsea lately, I mentioned to somebody, like, oh my gosh, when we sit around the writer's room table and pitch things and stuff, it's like, you know, Jesus at the last supper and all of us kissing Chelsea's ass. And so one of the art director made that. Oh, cool. And made it.

So it was all of you. Yeah. And so when I saw this, I was like, oh shit, you know, I've already been accused of, you know, mocking God when I fainted. And I'm like, please, I believe in, you know, that's where I'm like, sometimes it's not, everyone's sitting around and being like,

let's do this evil thing. It's not that, but I also get why. Well, you can also think of it like, the painting isn't a picture. It wasn't a photograph of the event. Right, otherwise they would have been sitting on the other side. Yeah.

Nobody's ever just sitting on one side unless there's a beautiful view of the ocean. Let's all sit on the same side and awkwardly talk down the same road. Like this is Leonardo Da Vinci's vision of a thing that was in a thing that may or may not have happened and this is his vision

that he had. So that painting is in fact someone else's vision interpreting something that may or may not have happened. So you kind of got to like, you know, I get people get sensitive about religion, but when we're dealing with art and portraits of things that were never, it's not a picture is all I'm saying. Right. It's an idea. So, and it's not mean.

Well my issue is that they do a thing that could be interpreted as offending some religions or philosophies. And I was like this, you did it in Paris. And I know Americans got blamed. Because of drag race. Because even though drag queens and drag. I don't think Americans got blamed. No, you don't think? No, I didn't see that. I thought I just saw that people felt it was like an attack on Christianity. And they say, you know, why is it always that we get attacked? And I'm like, I don't think

we're the only ones getting attacked of a religion, but whatever. And anyway, so that was that. Now we get into the rest of the stuff. Oh, this, and then someone showed when Beijing in 2008 did their opening and it was pretty magnificent, but they were definitely in sync, these kids. Drumming, drumming.

And I was like, wow. And I'm sure they were born and forced to do that for many, many years. I mean, we can find. I love sure they were born and forced to do that for many many years. I mean we can find... I love watching a show. I don't think that was a fun rehearsal time. No, I mean it's indentured servitude as a show. Yeah, you're one of thousands wearing the same thing. I mean there's things we can all get. It was an impressive watch, so I will say. And also ask yourself why you're offended if it wasn't drag queens would you be offended anyway yeah you know what I mean well we'll see yeah

no I agree anyway there's still a lot of shit in this the river I don't know what is going on with that river I wouldn't go in that river I wouldn't put my toe in that river I believe they're gonna do so first the river was dirty the female mayor said I'll swim in it then she swam in it, but then people got back in and shot. And then she died. No, then they... No, then they...

No. I didn't know she ever really went through with it. I don't know, I was saying like, you know... That takes balls. That is someone who's like... Sometimes as a female, you gotta use your one weapon, and that is to tell the world, I'm sorry, it's is to tell the world,

I'm sorry, it's that time of the month. And I only use pads, so I can't swim. And then everyone's just going to, oh, every man will just go, okay, okay, okay, never mind, we're not going to make you swim. Right. Yeah. It's a good one. I mean, they literally said that.

So then they were supposed to have a pre-race triathlon event, and right now they said, no, don't do that. And we might, if the river isn't better, we might just cut that out of the triathlons so it'll just be a duathlon. I don't know what they'll call it, but they won't have the swimming part if it's not better by like Wednesday.

Can you imagine though, you trained for your whole life, you get in the ocean or some lake every day, cause you know they're going every day. Oh, of course. At 3 a.m. they're getting bitten by jellyfish and leeches and doing their whole thing and they're like I finally did it, I've conquered it all, I'm gonna get, wait what?

Yeah. It's canceled. That would offend me. I said put drag queens wherever you want. I don't get like. You know the river is. Filled with shit. Yeah you can't, and then that's the funny thing

is you're saying like the last thing we want in there is a woman's menstrual cycle. Right. It's enough. That's what would stop it. That's what would stop everything. Also, I saw this and I put it in there and then I realized I was wrong.

It's the toilets. And the black ones are standing up and peeing and the red ones are sitting. I thought, oh my god, you're supposed to only go to the red ones when you have to take a shit. And how embarrassing that you're out in the middle of no, like you're walking out, everyone's like, how was your number two?

Or like jealous that, hell, I'm jealous you took a big dump. And then Drake's like, no, that's for girls sitting down. They have a ponytail. And I was like, oh, but the other part of this story is that on the bottom? There's a reflection so people can like your Sucking booth and then the other one is

Pooing I don't know it does look like I mean I believe there's reflection That's you know what cuz I was saying I thought it was like, you know when you go to a bathroom and Whether it's that hotel or whatever, and they have two things. So the smaller flush is like you just have to pee, and the bigger flush is like if you have a desk. Julie has those in her house. So I thought that's what this was,

to try to make sure that like, okay, if you're only peeing. That it doesn't go into the river? Yeah, if you're only peeing, please just go and pee only once. Yeah. But also why can't the't go into the river? Yeah, if you're only peeing, please just go in the pee only ones. Yeah. Also, why can't the doors go to the bottom? I don't know. Why can't the doors go to the bottom?

Well, we have to see everyone's legs with their pants around their ankles. That is so fake. That's how high up the men's are. The men don't even, it's at that point. And you're seeing your whole body. Like you're seeing your chest. You're like, hey.

The whole body. Very odd. Yeah. Very odd. But maybe they feel it's a lot better because it's like convertible versus when you go in those things and you're just stuck with that smell

and you don't see it. I'm gonna throw up just thinking. I know. But the top could be open, but the bottom should be closed. I agree. And I mean, I know everyone's gonna hate this, but if those were separated between TT and poo poo,

I'm not gonna stand in the line telegraphing that I need to do. Yeah, right. I'm gonna sneak into the TT one, that's cleaner, and I'm gonna do it in there. And you're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to because then your legs would be going the wrong way.

Right. And also I don't think these have a place to sit. Yeah, because those are for men. But let's say it was women separated. They're cracking down, French police are cracking down on prostitution. Why? Is that a piff? But then they said actually, you know, it's worse for the prostitutes. They're afraid like people will be robbing them. But the prostitutes are like, don't worry. There's no hotel rooms. So we're not even coming. I just want to say,

in all my years of doing this job and prior to this, it was Chelsea lately, I've had to cover a lot of the Olympics. And the stories are always the fucking same. The prostitution, the amount of free condoms that they give out, that's always a big thing. Hold on, let me show you this one. There's always, oh, they're giving out free condoms in Vacation Village. And we always have to do stories about how, oh, once you're done. And I was always like, yeah, imagine if, I always said, whatever Olympic thing I would be in, I just wanna be in like the first four days of it.

So I can be, head it over with, and then rip it and party, and use those condoms. It would suck so much if you were in the last event, the amount of stress leading up to your event, you can't drink, you can't have fun, you can't bone. You're worried about your whole thing and you have to be there the whole time. Ugh.

Well we are going on a cruise and we always do the very last show of the cruise. So it's just that little nervousness all the way up. We still drink and bone like the whole time but it does ruin the trip, essentially, right? Well it is, yeah. Well even though we have to do other shows the whole time. We have a bunch of other shows the whole time. But that last one. However, it's that main big show where you're just like, oh

And then once you do the show you're always so happy but you do have that anticipation But the whole trip is based on the show. So they're going out the condoms then This convicted Dutch Olympian was booed before losing his match. He's a volleyball player and when he was 19 It's like sad news, but I just thought it's big news. So when he was 19, he was convicted for bringing a 12 year old from Amsterdam. He did four years. And then when they brought it up to the Dutch people, like the how can you have him in the Olympics, they said, Oh, well, it's been 10 years and he's been rehabilitated. And he's married and he gets to be in the Olympics playing volleyball,

but he and his partner did lose at their match. So that's good. Wow. So sad and weird, sorry. Then this other guy, he got removed because he was commenting on the Australian swimmers. And they were like, where is the female swim team? And he goes, I don't know,

doing their makeup or something. And then there, and he was caught on a hot mic. So they kicked him out. And I'm like, first is the female swim team? And he goes, I don't know, doing their makeup or something. And then there, and he was caught on a hot mic. So they kicked him out. And I'm like, first of all, that's stupid because when you're swimming, you're not wearing makeup. So like, I don't even- Is that offensive though? I don't even think it was that offensive.

It doesn't bother me. I was like, doesn't bother me either. Like he was just saying something. It wasn't like- I thought you were going to tell us, say that he talked about their bodies. I thought he was gonna, when I read, when I thought, saw the headline,

I thought it, oh, it's going to be much worse. Like, oh, like look at those, you know, look at that ass or those titties or whatever. Well, let me just give you an example. When you said you'd be doing whatever sport, I was thinking to myself, what sport would Heather be doing? I'm like, would she say she does swimming?

Is she volleyball? I was thinking I would do not the good gymnastics, but the ones where they just do like ribbons. Oh, total ribbon dancer. Just like going like that and shit. I feel like that did get taken out. Really? I liked it.

I was watching skateboarding this morning and they were falling all over each. They were not even, I'm sorry, I think better skateboarders in Venice. I don't know what the hell was going on Venice Beach. Did you watch Americans though? I don't know what they were. Because if Americans were competing, they would be good. I was falling everywhere and he wasn't your typical skateboarder. It was like six, five and I was like, aren't they, I guess maybe they can be tall. I don't know what they were. But this one guy was falling everywhere. And he wasn't your typical skateboarder. It was like six, five.

And I was like, aren't they? I guess maybe they can be tall. I don't know. It was, they were. Well, I imagine Julie would do swimming among, she's a, she could do anything she could do. But let's say she's doing swimming. And then the guy said, I don't know,

it's someone doing her makeup. And Julie'd be like this, what? She'd be thrilled. I mean, what, you'd get offended that he said you were somewhere doing your makeup? I think- It's not deeply offensive, it's just, yeah, it's dumb. I like it, I think athletes, a lot of times,

especially women athletes, I don't know, they get, they're treated like- What was cool is now they have the breastfeeding thing. You heard about that? No. One of the girls was a former Olympian is now on a committee. And when she was running or something, she had a child that she was breastfeeding. While she was running?

Not while she was running. But during that time she had to bring the child, she was still breastfeeding. So anyway, they made some accommodations for female athletes that are breastfeeding. So I think that's cool. I feel like they're treated like they're not feminine or that they don't have different needs than men. I'm sure they don't have all the maxi pads and tampons available for you.

I'm sure you're scouring the city. But they have the condoms. Yeah, the condoms for the men. So yeah, I don't think it's that bad. I mean. Okay, now I wanna tell you my Olympic story real quick. In 1994, the Olympics were here in Los Angeles. Best Olympics ever in the world.

We did go down to Ventura Boulevard right across from Target. And at the time, I don't think it was Target, it was something else. And I did watch them run the thing. Oh cool. The torch? Yes.

Well that's cool. Now if someone looks it up and realizes it never went by Ventura Boulevard, I'm like, I really think maybe it was, maybe they did a Valley version. No, it was Ventura Boulevard. I saw it. Maybe it was a Valley version. Maybe it was just fun for the Valley.

Maybe it didn't really run through all of Los Angeles through the Valley. But I did go to see that. But the other memory I had that I was like, I know this, my sister can vouch for this memory. So my dad's Irish cousin who was a priest came out and said, Can I bring this reporter that I'm friends with? Can he stay at the house? And he's going to write articles about the Olympics. So he came and stayed this like young 25 year old guy and he would type and fax the stories because it was 1984.

And then he said, can my two friends come over to the house? They were in the Olympics. And this was the first year of the synchronized swimming. And these two, what I remember is these two girls that had, I remember they almost had the same name, came and they had gotten fourth place remember they almost had the same name came and they had gotten fourth place and they were from Britain was there and they came they got fourth so they just missed a medal probably said Polly and Holly and yeah and they came to our house and they swam in the pool with us oh wow and so

anyway I looked it up and sure enough, here they are. Oh my God, it's Caroline and Carolyn. Yes, so I'm like, I'm sorry, anyone that questions my memory. I mean, now granted, I wasn't that young, I was 14. Did you look up, though, the torch thing? I didn't look up the torch thing yet, but we definitely went down, walked down there,

because of course there's gonna be no parking, and we saw it go by. We did go to the Coliseum at USC, and we saw some running events. Was there any chance it was just a parade, or did you see a torch go by? I remember a torch going by, but like I said, but this, the girl swimming in the pool,

and teaching Shannon and I to do a couple moves, was an actual memory. And now, as an adult, I'm like, they totally probably thought they were going to like Beverly Hills, and instead they were like in Woodland Hills. Where are we? Like, you know, like, oh, come to my friend's house.

You know, like, what do they know? Like if I was in England and someone was like, come to this English, you know, castle, and then I was just like in some summer, I would be like, oh, I thought I was going to an English castle, but whatever. That's very cool though. But they were nice. 1984 is the best Olympics. Yeah, the best. Summer Olympics killed it. Anyway, that's

Bruce Jenner formerly Bruce Jenner. Yes. Oh, Mary Lou Retton. Mary Lou Retton. So many stars. Oh, doing all the Commentary and stuff. No doing the events. Yeah Wasn't that 1984? Mary Lou Retton was 100% in it. Yeah, okay, but Bruce Jenner was in like 72. No, 76, he was 76. And he didn't compete again in 84? No. Are you sure? No.

I think he did, because he was on the Wheaties Box and I wasn't even born in 76. Can I also tell you how mad I am about the fucking Wheaties Box? We got the Wheaties Box back, okay, so. You got the. I was at, Chris Jenner had these offices back in the day in Woodland Hills when they after Kardashians was on and they had a bunch of weedy boxes

there and I took one home and then Peter got some thing up his ass to get rid of shit before Caitlin was Caitlin and sold it for $100. Peter! Peter! I didn't know it was up for that. Peter! You gotta keep that box. How big is this?

It's this big. Like I'm not asking you to get rid of it. No. Yes. And that's why we kept the Barbies when he didn't know and we hid them in an underground bunker when he tried to get rid of the Barbies. He tried to get rid of the Barbies.

I still have the housewife Barbies. I hid them. In a bunker. In a bunker. Yeah try to get rid of the Barbies. I still have the housewife Barbies. I hid them in a bunker. In a bunker. Yeah, because he wants to give them away. He wants them all gone. And we did a plan and he will never know where they are. No, they are safe. They are safe deposit boxes.

They are safe. And you're like, you have all this equipment. This is like a real thing in our friendship was the Barbies. And now we know because Peter Garvey, how much would that be worth? Like that is, I'm telling you it's 1984, that classic Wheaties box. Yeah. It's such, it's the most famous one. Yeah. A hundred dollars. Anyway, let's talk about Real Housewives of New Jersey. Now for those of you guys not aware of it, not watching it, like I said, one of my gifts

from God is talking about what makes these shows interesting. So I'm not gonna recap and talk about a bunch of names. But as you know, there's Teresa Giudice, her second husband, Louis, and there's Margaret. And last night's episode, Teresa Giudice brings this attorney who would like to be on the show as much as possible. Who we have met.

How, where'd you meet him? We met him at her house with Dorinda and Melissa and Joe and we met them all. But the lawyer was there cause she was just out of prison. Yep. Oh wow. Yeah, very, very nice guy. I'm sure, I'm sure he is nice.

You know, he's doing what his client's asking him to do. And she said, come on camera and explained to the other girls what I've been going through because Louie's ex-girlfriend was suing him to try to get a restraining order against Louie, in which at that time the judge did not grant it. And the reason she wanted to get a restraining order against Louis is because she has a therapy practice and she had evidence saying that Bo Deedle hired a woman to pretend to be a client to go and then in talking about the relationships, ask questions about her former relationship with Louis. And when she found this all out, I know it sounds like a fantastical weird story, but I guess there was proof to it of the woman and Bodital and

whatever, then she's like, I need to get a restraining order. But then in putting out all the reasons why she would need a restraining order, I guess the judge felt that there was no threat to her against Louis. So he did not grant it. So once that was done, they had the cameras come in and the all the other girls were there. And, you know, except for Melissa and Margaret, I think everybody else came. And Teresa's like, this is why, you know, I've been so stressed and everything. And now we have proof that Margaret had been in touch and everything. And now we have proof that Margaret had been in touch with the ex-girlfriend, the therapist. And it seems like the reaction after seeing that from the fans is, so what? Like, Teresa and Jennifer Aiden had sought out this new girl's husband's ex-wife who was no longer in the child's life

and was a drug addict and recovering and in a halfway house. And they had sought her out or whatever, or bloggers or whoever had to try to get that story, to try to get this woman to say bad things about them. And it's like, okay, well now you're not only hurting your castmates family, but now you're not only hurting your castmates, you know, family, but also you're not doing this woman that's like in and out of halfway houses any favors

by involving her on Twitter or whatever. So there we are, and that's why it's real ugly and they're not having a reunion. But they're having a, there's one last episode and then they're going to have a watch party where they watch the final episode and talk in two different rooms. They watch the finale at like a bar

or something separately, right? I don't know if it's at a bar, but yeah. Each faction watches it and then discusses it. Yes. And it's like Margaret, Melissa, who's in that team? Margaret. It's really just Margaret and Melissa. I feel.

Rachel. Delores is in the middle and Rachel. Rachel, Margaret and Melissa are one team. And then Jennifer Aiden, Teresa and. Danielle. No, Danielle. Is with them too, right? Yeah, Danielle's with Rachel.

Cause Danielle smashed the glass. Oh yeah, okay. So, and with Rachel. Because Danielle smashed the glass. Oh yeah, okay, so, and then Rachel, so Rachel and Danielle and Melissa and Margaret are team one. Team two is Teresa and Jennifer Aiden and Jackie. Dolores is sort of in the middle, and I want to say Jen Fessler is probably with Jackie too. She's kind of trying to be in the middle.

She's trying to be in the middle. She's like, whatever, I thought this would be fun. I got a facelift. I thought it would be fun. My kids are in college. I thought it'd be fun. Like, why? Why this isn't as fun as I thought.

She does seem pretty authentic though. I kind of like her energy in it. What do you think is going to happen? What is your prediction of all this mess? Because people are just like very, they're obsessed with Louis and Louis is on the show. He is, it is interesting that he has these past, fiancees and everything.

Of course, the moment that really caught my eye with Louis is when this video emerged from another girlfriend, not either one of his two ex girlfriends. One's a fiance, one's a girlfriend, each named Vanessa. Wow. Then he has another ex that I guess sent this video that he sent to her when he went and did this like, you know, what was it called? Like empowerment of men retreat and they were in Laguna and they were all very sunburned.

And their goal was, you know, that part of the retreat was send a video to your woman that you've treated wrong, saying, I'm going to change my ways. And he sent it to her. And then a couple of years later, he's on TV. And she released it to some blogger. And it got out. And it was very comical.

I mean, I did think of you on the most recent episode when they all gave their testimonies to their wife on the podcast. I remembered the video that you made recreating, which is one of your best, in my opinion. You had the whole Shannon's in it. You had a whole team. It was the tableau was there. Yeah.

The tableau was there. I thought it was so funny. And I didn't think it was necessarily making him look bad. I just thought he went to this thing. You know, now you're on TV. Your ex-girlfriend is like fucking, you know, it's not, look, when you come on TV, everyone's gonna come and share everything.

And, but I thought it was interesting that that's out there. And then he's doing it again as a version of his thing that he does now. So he invites the guys over, Louie, and he says, here, come into my podcast studio and talk to the camera, telling your wife what you love about her so much.

And so then they each had to do it. I don't know if he's just a romantic. I know, we're trying to figure out why, what does he want from that? What is he getting from it? Do you want Peter to go in and be like, Heather? I just wanna tell you. We've had so much, too many times.

I just don't have an opportunity to tell you. Peter's the complete opposite of that, of like saying, you know. Heather. Yeah. I wanna tell you something. I wanna tell you something. I wanna tell you that I'm sorry that I got rid of the Wheaties box. No, he won't ever admit that getting rid of the Wheaties box.

He'll say, now you got a great story out of it. So whatever. I did that for you because I love you so deeply. And I do everything for you. I don't really love like corny, I like grand gestures but I don't like corny stuff like that. Well, I mean, they're all were just put on the spot. But I mean, what is Louie getting at it?

Why is he doing that? I think he likes it. I think he's very, very, him and Teresa are very corny romantic. And it's hard for all of us because it's cringe. Okay, I think she was so stressed about this whole thing because I think it's very disturbing to think that if there is any truth to what this woman brought

forward, which I believe there is, the effort that he put forth to try to find this information through Bo Diddle, this other person, to me would make me feel insecure like why are you still even interested what this woman is saying about you, positive or negative? And I think that's where she was internalizing the stress because that is weird, like that is weird, and you know, but she's gotta tell herself no,

and all this. But if a restraining order goes, and I don't know, but if it goes on your like criminal record. No, it's bad, so that's if it goes on your like criminal record. No, it's bad. So that's why it is that you can't just get. Yeah, he wanted to fight that. Yeah, you don't just get restraining orders like they don't just hand them out like candy.

You've got to really prove that like there was a level of stalking that is destroying your life. And he didn't want that on his record. Yeah. So he fought it. Yeah. And apparently they said it cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to fight it. So they were happy to prevail. Right. And then she was like, I want you guys all to know

that Teresa was in contact with this woman. It's like, you're all in contact with other people that are trying to all hurt each other's business, family lives, romantic, like they're all that includes Margaret, they all have their hands dirty in this because they're not really friends. No, they all are going after each other's kids, exes, business, they're doing, they even did it on like Mary DeMedicine, like background checks on people. Yeah. And then they'll be like, I don't get into business

with anyone who I don't do a background check. And it's like, ew, why are you in my business? It's like, they all do that. They all do it. Every single one of them is guilty of it except perhaps Dolores who just can't be bothered and doesn't have any skeletons. But Frank did.

I mean, Frank, her ex-husband, got disbarred. It's like at this point, we're talking about a lot of people who have gotten in trouble with the law, including Margaret and her husband. I like... Everyone says I hate it. It's dark. I'm sorry. It's in, why do you just laugh so hard at that?

Because, because it is dark. It is dark. And you're gonna say you love it. I do. Yeah. I like the, I love Real Housewives of American Greed. I think it's, I think. It's juicy.

I mean, listen, if we're not gonna get the rich, fabulous, gorgeous people because they know this is trashy and they're not gonna jeopardize their wealth, like, then let me watch the American Greed grifter version of this show. I mean, to me, like, okay, like it's crazy. And I don't think they I think whatever they think is going on with Louie or not, the cameras are not going to leave Teresa because if something does go down, if there's more to this app that he had, which was like this TikTok thing, which just might have been a flop, like a clubhouse, like a fireside, if there's more

to it, because there's a lawsuit involved with that, this Viviana thing, then he'll either have to be like, hey, I was the face of it, or I was actually part of it and have to face that. But I don't think the cameras want to be like, hey, I was the face of it, or I was actually part of it and have to face that. But I don't think the cameras want to be there for everything. Yeah. And so I don't, whatever it is, if the show doesn't come back,

in my prediction, they're gonna give Teresa something else. Yeah, they should. With Louie and whatever. Or, you know. I 1,000% agree with you that the real housewives of Dirty John and American Greed is more interesting to me than watching like Like people fighting to be top dog and like Beverly Hills where the actual wealth I don't know or you're exposing people cheating or

Like being drunk and I don't know This is like kind of a real thing where it's like we're looking into sort of like is there a grift is Somebody are we gonna get to the end of like a weird mystery? Well plus everybody's doing it Yeah, very I guess the Christy because everybody's guilty. Yeah, literally everybody in there is guilty of something So that's what makes it also fun at least for me Like I like the fact that everybody's got some kind of thing that they are covering. People are suing Joe Gorga. Literally every one of them. Whatever, it's all, they're all being. Everyone's sort of pretending that I'm innocent, but you're doing this. No, I'm innocent, but you're doing this.

But at the end of the day, they're all pulling some, and I'm not mad, I mean, I'm enjoying it. When we had them, I loved them. They all seem great. I also forgot that Teresa and Jennifer Aiden went after Margaret's ex-best friend and tried to get information from an ex-best friend. And this is like every little thing.

And it's like, yeah, it's just not an authentic. But you know that Jennifer Aiden has the leeway to do whatever she wants because Margaret exposed her husband's affair from previous and ruined her whole life and they still stay together. And we know that Margaret also exposed Jackie's husband and then pretended it was Teresa. I mean, to me going and finding someone's old affair

and bringing it up when they have little kids, I thought that was dark and dirty and gross of Margaret. No, we still don't know where the Jackie rumor came from. The Jackie, but do we know where Jennifer Aiden came from? The Jackie rumor was so weird because it was like, I, Teresa said that, Teresa goes, I heard that he gets with people at the gym, which made it sound like he could be gay

because are you meeting somebody in a steam room? Like, what do you mean at the gym? Or did you meet a hot girl while doing squats? I don't know. It never was proven. But Margaret lives in the neighborhood of the gym. And then her husband accidentally said, oh, I first heard of that rumor at my house. And then Margaret screamed at him.

This is all on the show. But the Jackie thing is one thing. I can't even keep track of the repeating of the rumors. The Jackie thing is one thing. Because none of this we saw. It's very rare that we see them actually say something on camera damaging. And I think that's what's annoying the Brava producers, because all of this is behind the scenes.

They're not capturing it. This isn't the golden era of when Camille Grammer looked and said, oh, I remember, here you are. What did she say? The immoral, they resonate. Yeah. And like, it was so weird. And then the girl smoking when she owned owned she was the first to have a

Jubell of vape. Yeah, and then she predicted that her marriage would but you know Kyle and Mauricio will not you know fulfill You'll never emotionally fulfill you. That was a scene that we actually saw uncovered Yeah, it wasn't planned out that these things were gonna be said it wasn't you know, and that's the difference But it's I really don't know how they can get the toothpaste back in the tooth. You know, like it's like who it's well, you did that, you know, or Teresa will say, I only think that's what we think too. Who started it? They're all doing it. But they're all doing it. They're all guilty. Yeah, you, you can't do one thing and then someone does something to you and then go, you can't do that. That's why does something to you and then go you can't do that

That's why I think Bravo just doesn't know what to do with this because they're so There's so many like we just named eight different There's so many things that everybody that people did to each other They're horrible and well they did that because of this and they and they're making up rumors or repeating rumors or whatever Literally like eight different awful things and I didn't even mention the pizza, the subscriber to the pizza oven. And that wasn't even on the TV show. I didn't even mention no-nose pajamas.

I know there's so many things. There's so many things, but- I mean, Bo Deedle alone. Bo Deedle, we didn't know who Bo Deedle was. Yeah. And now we're all talking about Bo Deedle? Yeah. I mean-

So, Bravo, OMG, this posted right before I we recorded so I don't know if this is a hundred percent true But they wrote Andy Cohen confirmed on his radio show Andy Cohen live that Rony I mean real half size of New Jersey will be getting a full reboot. There will be all new faces Now I don't know if that is true if he said that But I There will be all new faces. Now, I don't know if that is true, if he said that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they try to do that. If they try to do that, and I can't believe that they would do all new faces. I think that I would at least keep,

I would keep a couple of the new ones. Why do we have to meet six new people? Why don't we just meet like three or four new people? So it happened in New York. Like the franchises are getting destroyed. So like the second year fighting to be Top Dog and somebody tries, you know, it happened on even Beverly Hills

where it's like everybody wants to be Top Dog. You take out Lisa, you take out Lisa Vanderpup. Now it's Lisa Rinna. Now we take out Lisa Rinna. Now it's Kyle. And it's like, you're fighting for Top Dog and then we're going to end up with a reboot. And I personally, I mean, I know,

I guess people like the reboots. I didn't enjoy the Rony reboot or I didn't watch it. But I feel this whole season, there's many times I just, it was like hard for me to get through. Like I'd kind of be bored. I would be bored by some of the scenes. In Jersey? In Jersey, with little kids and stuff.

I don't like watching little kids. I don't find that that interesting. Right. I don't know. But whatever. We'll see. We'll see. I'm attached to all of them. But this was amazing when she sent a thing of flowers, Teresa did. And I mean, sorry, Margaret sent a thing of flowers to Teresa's house while she had the attorney there where they were exposing her. And she said, dear Teresa and James, the attorney, sorry for the loss of your dignity. Love, love, love, Marge, which Teresa always says love, love, love.

And then she said, she refused the flowers. I thought it was a pretty funny baller move and great for TV. So that was something we actually saw on TV. Yeah, because that was way more, way more climactic than the actual information that they gave at that thing. We were watching it together and it was like,

I cannot wait to hear what this information is gonna be. I cannot wait. And then whatever, the lawyer says what it is and it's like, that's it? That's it? Like, of course. People are talking to people. I mean, they're people, they all DM each other.

They all know each other, you know? It's a little anticlimactic. JLo and Ben, a couple updates on that. Ben has bought a $20 million home in Pacific Palisades. His stuff has been moved there. They are still trying to sell the $68 million home in Beverly Hills. She has spent the last few weeks in the Hamptons with her kids and family. She celebrated her 55th birthday with a Bridgerton themed party. She's been riding her bike around in a flowery, in a green Christian Dior dress. And then she goes to the main part of town and gets an ice cream and gets very angry at the paparazzi. I don't know how they knew that she'd be getting an ice cream at that time. And also, if you don't want the paparazzi to like, you don't need to go to a public store

to get an ice cream. You want an ice cream cone? I think you could send out a staff and enjoy an ice cream cone in your beautiful backyard. I mean, it's so stupid and everybody's caught on. Where she's like, please guys, with my kids, like we're trying to have an ice cream, enough. God damn it. And then they're like, okay. And I mean, it's so obvious. And it's like, have you seen that thing of Hugh Jackman

taking the picture of his billboard? No, is he pulling a Luann? So there's a billboard. And I just showed my billboard. No, is he pulling a Luann? So there's a billboard. And I just showed my billboard. On Sunset. And he's on the side of Sunset taking a picture, a selfie of himself with the billboard. And he's playing it off like, I'm just so excited

for Deadpool or whatever. Meanwhile, like two weeks or a month ago. Oh yeah, J.Lo had done that. And her J.Lo did the exact move. And it's like, it's fine. You can do the troll, you can do the thing, but like the exact same like thing? It's the exact same thing. So he is mocking it, he's mocking her, don't you think?

No, I think his agents were like, go out and take the selfie and post it on your Instagram to promote Deadpool, because he's doing it ad nauseam. Well, I mean, I think marketing is learning that it's like these, you know, and I'm going to get more into it when I do. I'm doing a solo show Thursday. There's a lot more things that we'll discuss. But it's like, but I do think they're realizing there's this like unique you use the social media way in a way that the people at home think it's authentic.

Like when you see these women that are like these trad wives, which are going to get into this whole thing, ballerina farms, it's too much to get into. But, and they, and people are like, oh my God, how does she also like film every single one of her making the meals? And it looks like she's putting the phone there and making the bread.

And then, you know, no, I believe that they have a whole thing of people coming in and filming a bunch of stuff all at that time. I mean, it's same with this, like whether you're calling the paparazzi or then doing a mockery of somebody else because they know that's just going to get the word out more than if they put in a bunch of articles out in a magazine. No one's going to read the articles, but are they going to see the snarky Instagram slap back?

Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, we have to use that all, but definitely I think they're getting divorced now. I'm sure I definitely don't think they're coming back together. He was nowhere to be seen. And so I was like, well, maybe just didn't want to go to a Bridgerton party. I'm like, he wasn't in the Hamptons at all. Her entire birthday celebration. She went to lunch with Leah Remini. She went had her party. Yeah. Yeah, if he's your husband, he shows up and is there. And everyone's already gonna be mad at me about being on Teresa's side, but I'll say this.

I want to go to a Bridgerton party and I don't care if it's hot. I thought it was cute. I was like, that looks fun to me. It was like, it's too, there was reading a lot of criticisms, like it's too hot, you're a hundred years old. Why are you throwing a birthday party in Bridgerton theme? And I was reading a lot of criticisms like, it's too hot, you're 100 years old,

why are you throwing a birthday party in Bridgerton theme? And I was like, I would literally like, probably murder a drifter to get invited to that. And then I'd be in some too hot dress. And it's the one time to do Bridgerton and the Hamptons. Like I thought it looked completely fun and cool. And it's like, yeah. Of course, let her have whatever she wants.

Yeah, she's now single. She can have all the fun that she wants. And it's just, you know, and some people like, yeah. Of course, butter have whatever she wants. Yeah, she's now single. She can have all the fun that she wants and it's just, you know, and some people are like, why hate on her? I just think the getting mad at the paparazzi seems very weird. At this point, at 55, your career, like, it just seems, come on.

But we know you called the paparazzi ma'am. Right, if you don't wanna be seen looking cute and happy, then you don't have to go out. Anyone can bring you any food and bring it to your hamptons house. And you can have a dinner party, a lunch party every day. You don't have to go and wait in line to get a scoop. Right?

No. With your kids. Yeah. And so anyway, Mauricio of Kyle and Mauricio, he was seen about a week ago kissing a blonde woman at the airport. And I feel like this this was stage two. Stage two. I totally do.

It was like such such clear thing. It's big kisses. It's all this other stuff. That's mean. And then I looked up who she is. And it was kind of interesting. A few things that one I read a few different things. So I read that she's like from Russia, she was a model,

but then she like started her own company. She also has her own real estate company. She's only 27. Then I also thought, no, she's actually 33. And then the most weird thing was that she had like a 72 year old boyfriend for a few years. Well, uh-oh, we're getting into Louie territory here. I was gonna say, was Bo Deedle in the corner?

Oh my God. Who took the picture, was Bo Deedle? If you think they staged this, that really bugs. Like that's mean, like the three- Well it could be her staging it. Like you don't know, like if you are dating someone famous, you're the one that can go, I'm gonna be picking. He could be, I feel like he's so clueless, like whatever.

But maybe not, I mean, he's got his second season of buying Beverly Hills coming out. And you know, she's got real housewives of Beverly Hills. She was seen at Morgan Wade's shows. We'll find out what's going on with that. She was hurt by this a lot. Did you read that? That's what Kathy Hilton said.

And then Sutton had her fashion show, and that was one thing I missed, which I was bummed. I missed Lala's baby shower, and I missed Sutton's fashion show. And I saw a video of all of a sudden, Kathy Hilton is like on the runway, in the middle of the thing, she's like, what? What was a hunky dory?

I'm like, all right, come on. This like schnick of like Mr. Magoo has got to go. Like, are you kidding me? And then, but then she was completely coherent when asked about what's going on with Colin Mauricio. And she's like, I think she's hurt by it. So that's where that got out. I mean, I think there's no way not to be.

And he's already been thirst bucketing all over the mountaintop with the girls in the robes. Remember they did all that stuff in Aspen? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was, you know, that was okay. I mean, that wasn't, those girls, I don't think they were dating. And that was just blatant, like being very thirsty.

But this is like him meeting someone. I don't know, it's hard to watch. They were married a long, long time. You don't need to shove this down someone's throat. They're married a long, long time. You don't need to shove this down someone's throat. They're married a long, long time, but I feel like they are really done and it doesn't really, they don't really care. I still think, I don't know, who knows?

I didn't think that, I thought at one point, you know, I predict a lot of things that I'm right and then I get some things wrong. I thought when J.Lo was acting like she needed to spend more time with her family because no one was buying tickets to her shows. I thought maybe they were pretending to have problems

so that she had an excuse to cancel her tour. But now I realize, no, I really think they're done. She said on Watch What Happens Live, Kyle, when he was seen holding hands with the Dancing with the Stars lady, the partner, she said that hurt her. To Andy Cohen with her own mouth, it wasn't Cathy Hilton, she said that,

yeah, that threw her for a loop. But I just think there's no way, whether it's planned, that's even more offensive, or not, that that doesn't just shock you to the core. Cause it's, whether you don't care about someone or not, it's just a rude thing to do to like your, don't they still live together? I don't know, but.

I don't think they live together. I don't know, but. I don't think they live together. I think they like take turns being in the houses. So like, she'll be in Aspen for a week or I don't know. Well, they're filming right now and they're just about to go on a girls trip. Okay, so you think they're just switching off. Like through their homes. I do think he's a really nice guy

and I don't think he would do that on purpose to hurt her. Oh, wait a minute. I just, yes. Well, now they have something to talk about. They're filming. Oh, so you think, oh, you think this is, oh. I mean, this is everywhere. And they're gonna be sitting around on the phone.

Oh, my God. Oh, okay. Look, just like we're doing. If we're in a reality show, and like if we're talking about it, they're gonna be talking about it. We walked right into the trap. Yeah.

Oh, God. The grift is everywhere. We walked right into the trap. Yeah. Oh, God. The grift is everywhere. It's not just that we're gonna see them. Oh, speaking of grift, update on a grift situation. And I'm only gonna say it here towards the end of the show just because I did mention it once coming up on a year anniversary come this September.

But I had made friends with this grifter that I met through possibly another grifter, I don't know. Quite possibly. Grifters grift together and I became friends with her and then she lied and said that I had taken these earrings of hers and lost one and avoided her because they were worth $10,000 and I lost one and I'm such a piece of shit, I wanted to get up to stop.

Having to have to pay her. None of that was true, none of it was true. I never blew off this girl. I did lose the earring. We were friends after, we all enjoyed, remember, all thought it was fine. And then this guy who had a failing radio show, he went on and said,

oh my God, Heather McDonald was friends with this woman and she's a horrible friend and she took these $10,000 earrings and then avoided her because she's now a felon. I paid the money, which then turned out to be 3,000, but I was like, all right. So I gave her $3,000 and then I was so. But up to that point, when the earring fell off,

you assumed it was costume jewelry. One, because it was very lightweight, as fake jewelry is, which falls right out. Two, because- And it had just like a needle that you like with a hole in, not like the good terms. Right, not that they do with real gold jewelry. Also, which always comes with real 14 karat gold backs

that you put on, period, end of story. But also because you had had the earrings for months and months and months, never once were asked for them these $10,000 antiquities back. So you always believed it was costume jewelry from. God bless you. Sorry, sorry.

Wherever, Forever 21, wherever. And they were cute and you were just like, okay, who lends someone? You never thought they were real. I never ever thought they were real. And then even then, when I heard that they were allegedly real, I believed it. And I believed it because I thought how sad

because he had dumped her once before publicly, and everybody in his world dumped her. I thought, oh my God, maybe when I lost this real earring of hers, she was afraid to tell me because then I would dump her too. So I thought how sad that is. But here, obviously, we're not friends anymore because she had stopped returning my call when this entire plan was happening. And then I gave her the money and then everyone, people were like, you should go see if that

earring is real. And I said, well, I think it is. I think she just didn't want to say anything anymore because she doesn't have any friends. And then I find out later, they're not real. Then I find out more where she bought them from Evolve, either $60 or on sale for $42. Everyone bought them. Numerous people have lost them. You lost them. I've lost them. I was out with Gertie wearing them, told her the story, Gertie from Miami, and then she sent me a photo. She goes, I can't believe it. Look what's here on your seat. And it was one of the earrings. Mine

fell out the very first night I wore them. Don't buy them anymore. They actually fall out a lot. So anyway, turns out now he has dumped her for a second time, telling the world that she has lied about numerous things and blamed his daughter for a medical condition that she now has. And then also is going around town saying

she's his real estate financial, real estate partner. So, so you know, Jojo see what would say karma's a bitch. Karma's a bitch and it's karma 24. Grifters gonna grift. Yeah, and liars gonna lie. And liars, liars do flock together. Yes, yeah. Liars and you find, yeah, and you wonder

why they generated together so many times. We've got five more months of Karma 24 and we're really just looking forward to all the fruits. Well, I think it's already paid off quite well. It's been delivering every month, pretty much. I mean, it doesn't stop. No, it doesn't. It doesn't stop.

But it's been really nice. And- Yeah, because last year was intense. One year ago, pretty much it's coming up on the anniversary of a lot of slanderous- So much slander, public slander on a radio show. Threats of being sued, threats of being a felon. Yeah, a brain damage.

Yeah, just the constant- A monster. Yeah, anything to ruin lives. Yeah, yeah, and so it's fun. Yeah. It really is. Time heals all. And you know what?

And people go, don't talk about it anymore. But I'm like, I don't wanna talk about it now just because I feel so free. Yeah. But I'm like, I don't want to talk about it now just because it's like, I feel so free. Because I feel like I was so gaslit. And I was like, I can't believe I've been on social media since 2007, six. And I never ever received all the hate and all the awful things said about me. And it all stemmed. It all stemmed from this lie in which I was trying to constantly defend myself.

And it was like roaches. And I was like, what? No, oh, and then you see it. And then now in retrospect, I'm like, oh, it was probably just a few people. Right. And then from that, it was perpetuated by some other people doing some other content that we're desperate people. Right. And then from that, it was perpetuated by some other people doing some other content

that we're desperate to. Right. But a lot of it was BOMS. It's a great lesson to learn. And now, comedy is tragedy plus time, and it's been time. And I'm getting people that are just begging for more. TV show, books, art, anything I can do, we can do to make this juicy story a vision. And it was great because-

And there's so many more. There's so many things I'm constantly thinking and coming up with and discovering different things about it that is just fascinating. Yeah, maybe we should do a last supper in drag of it. Where we have the earrings and the chalice. I mean, it was a grift at the end of the day if anyone, you know, thinking nothing less because it was a scam to get money from one person who did get money

because you believed it and you were so, you were a shell of yourself. You were beaten down and hurt. There was no getting through to you. We 100% were like, go get that shit appraised, honey, because we don't believe it. And you wouldn't even go near to get it appraised, because you just felt so-

Because I had lost scrunchies and stuff in the past. As a girl, I had borrowed a scrunchie. I had been accused of, you know, borrowing things. Or holding onto something too long. Yeah, nothing of any value. But like, I was like, wow, I can't believe that this was, you know, a value. And this person was too nice to tell me.

When it was a complete and total opposite. And then, you know, and then just getting in other people's ears and saying all these things when this whole time I was like, oh, I thought everyone loved me. I thought everybody that was my friend was actually my friend. Oh, you know what it is? It's when people beat themselves up because they date somebody

and they're a horrible Dirty John, and they're embarrassed that they were taken, or all of a sudden some guy was a Dirty John and took their money. And they're so embarrassed're embarrassed that they were taken or all of a sudden some guy was a dirty John and took their money and they're so embarrassed to say that they and I'd always say to those women why are you you shouldn't be sad about it you shouldn't beat yourself up about it because you what is wrong with believing that somebody really loved you and what was wrong of me believing that somebody actually really liked me I mean that really enjoyed me but that's what it was I was like looking back going,

oh, so you never wanted to come on the boat. You never wanted to be around. I was just an awful person that, yeah. So it is a really weird thing. I think the reason people enjoy hearing the greater details about it like on Patreon is because it is a very relatable story. I think they enjoy it.

I think it's healing for people to hear the trauma of, because it is nothing but a trauma to look up and realize somebody who pretended to be your friend was using you, and someone can be your friend and still use you, but at a certain point, it was more than one person turned on you and didn't even like you anymore and was still using you. And then they didn't like you.

And it's like to find that out and multiple people that's jarring and scarring, it stays with you for a long time. And I do think people can relate to the trauma of like, yeah, people are totally lying to your face. And then now you're like, what did I do? What was my part in it? What was I doing?

Why they didn't like me? Why couldn't they be honest with me? I mean, we have to have multiple conversations between us where it's like, if you're ever mad at me, just please tell me. Just please, please, please. Because we're all, we're traumatized. We have PTSD from people just going

and pretending they're not mad. And then they are and they don't like you anymore and then you're fired. It's just, it is, it's just, it is a really weird thing. And then of course, when it's, when our business is based on our personality and likeability, people listen to you, they go to your shows because they like you and they like you because they like your character.

And so when there's a character assassination and people like, Oh, I thought she was a good person and Oh, I guess she wasn't. And then you have to try to repair that. There's always going to be people that only heard the initial part that no matter what is, you know, it's why being a defense attorney is oftentimes harder being than being a prosecutor because it's like, you like, they were arrested. Didn't you see them on the news being pulled out of their house with their hands behind their back? You can never take it away.

That's the first vision that you see. So it's like the first punch is like it is. And that's why also I think in analyzing Housewives and stuff, I have a different sensitivity to it because I was like, oh my God, I was on The Real Housewives of Podcasting and I want off, like what the fuck is this? And also the behind the scenes that went on with fake accounts and social media and all that kind of stuff.

Pushing a narrative. And you can't, it's like you said with the toothpaste and the tube, it's like there's gonna be a portion of people who will always be misunderstood to and they will always come back and be like, there's gonna be a portion of people who will always be misunderstood to, and they will always come back and be like, well, she shouldn't have done this, and they shouldn't have done this,

and well, they had every opportunity, well, Heather had every opportunity, well, Heather this, and Julie and Brandy this, and it's like, you don't know what you're talking about, and whatever we have taken responsibility for also will not be taken into account. There's just people who are going to hold on to that side

of the story and there's nothing we can do. And we just have to kiss it up to God and be like, be well in your life and we'll be well in ours. And we have to let those people go and know that those friends are the people who did that to us. They're the people who destroyed that, our relationship or our reputation with that group of people. And we either have to let it go or spend the rest our relationship or our reputation with that group of people and we'll either

have to let it go or spend the rest of our life defending ourselves which we shouldn't do. Right and I don't have to anymore because now everyone sees it for what it is they'll never you know I won't hear from anybody that's like wow sorry we haven't talked in a year I just thought you you know I just wanted to you know continue to be on this Hollywood train and you had some stink on you, so I just avoided you for a year. I'll never hear from those people again. I definitely don't think I will.

And you don't want to. And it's fine. Yeah. I look back at this time last year and I was walking around like, look at all my friends and all this fun stuff that's happening. And I had like no idea like what was looming.

And now coming up on it, I'm thrilled with where everything is. I'm glad it was cracked open. I knew it would happen eventually. I didn't know when. I have further predictions of what will happen. And, you know, and I'll probably be right about this too. But like whatever in the meantime, we're just volcanoes, three volcanoes in the coffee grounds. I will say we talked about on our Patreon podcast, other grifters floating amongst the midst of the grifter group, who,

other grifters floating amongst the midst of the grifter group. Who, you know, there's lots of scams happening behind the scenes and just in general that we, you know, uncovered. So... And if somebody wants to do that and spend their money on that, okay, fine, but just know, like, please. But, you know, whatever it is, it's... Yeah. Yeah. It's it is. Yeah, yeah. It's no loss.

No, no. If anything, all the people that I liked from the group are in my life that I like now, so it's all fine. Yeah, I agree. I concur as well. A lot of the curtain was pulled back and it was like, oh, okay. Yeah, it's great.

It's actually really great. Let's just talk, it's great. It's actually really great. Let's just wrap it up. What, besides your great podcast, Dumb Gay Podcast, which is a lot of fun, what else do you want to explain? What else, Warren Brandy and Julie, in your life? Well the podcast, right now, we're getting into like, we're 100 days before the presidential election. So it can be, a lot of people aren't wanting to deal with that. Yes, I say go for it because I'm not, okay? I'm not.

And let me tell you, it's hard, because there's so many jokes and things I've wanted to say and do, but I made a promise. In 2016, I'm gonna stick to the promise. But if you wanted to talk about the political stuff and have some fun with it, that's the place to go and get different opinions and be able to, because there was a lot of comedy in it.

And, but... Our podcast is liberal. It's not always politics, but right now, in the next 100 days, it probably will be. So it's not for everyone, but we do have a Patreon podcast, which is not political, and you can join for just, it's just, you know, it's once a week for the lowest tier. So we have like different pricing options

with more or less podcasts, but none of them are political. So that's the option we have for people who want to break and we totally get it, you know? And luckily come November, it'll be what it is and then we'll all just get to go back to whatever. And now we're going embarking, we are now going on a trip. Thursday, we're gonna be doing our travel episodes. So if you're interested, we're gonna be going

to the Netherlands and Belgium. Amsterdam. So we're going to be doing a bunch of stuff on the road. So that'll be fun. If you want to get away from the worms that are taking over the world. The grifting worms. The grifting worms get into an air conditioned delight with the hilarious Chris Frangel and myself. And that is August 8th in Houston, August 9th in Dallas, August 10th in Austin, and then August 17th in Saratoga, California with Chris. And then Brandi, Julia and I return to Rome, aka the Venetian. And that is September 21st. Go for all my dates at HeatherMcDowell.net.

That's where you also join me on Patreon. But also, Julie's gonna be joining me and Brandy too at the Wilbur in Boston and Chicago, Detroit. There's another one there. There are many, many, of course, all of that's in October. All these dates, you guys. I think the Chris Frangiola, Heather combo is gonna be very sexy in Texas.

It's always been sexy, it's always been fun. I know, but have you guys, I like it in Texas. I like that combo in Texas. I love Texas. And it's gonna be, the thing with Texas, if it's sold out, I just want, and people in Texas know this, but it's just a drive, those bitches will drive.

They think a six hour drive is nothing, they'll do it there and back. They love a road trip. And Austin, Houston, and Dallas are all like, like very strangle. So it's gonna be, that's gonna be really fun. I think Dallas is getting close to sell out, but I know Houston, Austin.

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Liar's gonna lie. Yeah, it all works out.