Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Scheana Shay, Princess Kate, Kyle and Mauricio

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

The star of Vanderpump Rules, Scheana Shay is here! But first I get into all the internet theories about Kate Middleton missing and the royal family. I change my mind yet again about Kyle, Morgan Wade and Mauricio. Then I remind you that Scheana was the reason the show ever got green lit 13 years ago so yes, maybe it is about her. We get into how her life has changed yet she still has remained her authentic self whether you like it or not. Her life on the show has included two weddings, divorce, motherhood, postpartum and of course Scandavol. We find out what was not shown and why Dancing with The Stars was a such big deal to her. This is a juicy one that just might change your mind. Get 20% OFF @honeylove by going to https://honeylove.com/JUICY! #honeylovepod Frizz-free up your schedule with OUAI. Go to https://theouai.com and enter promo code JUICY for 15% off any product. Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Oh my God. I have such a great show for you. I've got Sheena Shay. We recorded a great interview. It's so juicy, all about Banner Pump rules, the valley, everything going on, what people are saying about her, how she deals with it.

But first, let me just talk a little bit about the Kate Middleton because the theories are just there so many from Notre Dame's predictions. So I saw, I'm just going to tell you everything I saw. These are just theories floating around the internet. Take what you want from it. To get you guys up to date, she hasn't been seen for months, there's so many different things of, you know, she was rushed to the hospital, so how could this be a planned surgery? But is it plastic surgery that took too long, but then it would be planned

and you would plan that out. No one's visited her. No one has seen the kids. What is happening? So I just want to go through some of the crazy ones. We talked about plastic surgery at a BBL. Don't think it's that. Could it be abdominal surgery that she had complications? Does she have a colostomy bag?

Does it want to be out in person? Who was the woman we saw in the car? Really she or is it somebody else? Is she with Shelly Miskevich? Is she on the Masked Singer? Okay, that was one that people are saying, they're just doing Masked Singer. Come on, you guys, not crazy. Of course she did, well, she, someone did the Photoshopping and then she said, oh, I

was just playing around with Photoshop. Don't make anyone alarmed. Well, then do a video being like, hey guys, I never do, you know, selfies, but totally fine. Obviously something's really wrong. And as the days go on, it makes people even more nervous about it. So there were always these rumors

that William had had an affair with this woman, Rose Hanbury, who was a friend, close friend. I believe one of her children was actually in their wedding. She's had some children since. And so one of the biggest rumors is that she did in fact have an affair with William, which produced a child or two. And that this is happening, it's going to come out, she had the children, they want to be together. And this is very, you know, Camilla 2.0 situation, and Kate may have found out and had a nervous breakdown, and they are somewhat manipulating this soft launch of her so that people will be prepared for her to come. The other thing is I've also read or heard

that if Prince William was to take the throne, they would have to be divorced before he did that, or they couldn't be getting divorced while it's happening. Something about that. So a lot of people are thinking it's around this other woman and if in fact their marriage is in a state of no repair. And what would that mean? And then the other one was Nostradamus who predicted all these things. I saw this article, don't know if it's true, but that he had predicted

that there would be an unlikely person like far down the reign of who could be king that will take over after Charles. And it's not William and it's not Harry, so it would be Edward. So that's not Prince Andrew, that's the younger brother who's really led a pretty exemplatory life. So those are all the crazy things that are going on. And the other one is just they want this press for themselves to stay relevant. I don't know, very, very strange, but I do really hope that medically and mentally that

of course she is okay and her kids are okay and whether the marriage lasts or not, we just hope that she's fine. Meanwhile, Meghan Markle has started a lifestyle brand. It's kind of a weird name. It's called American Riviera Orchard. And she's also supposed to be doing a cooking show with Netflix and you know, she has chickens. She wasn't the first person to get chickens, I was.

And I don't know if she makes jams or something. You know who also makes jams is on Real Housewives of Miami. Julia, who has now turned opera singer, is also a jam maker. And she wants to sell her jam for $30 a jar. So I don't know who's buying these jams, but whatever. So she's doing that. And then of course, if it's a hit, I'm sure she'll have a line of stuff, you know, probably in Target or whatever. Who course, if it's a hit, I'm sure she'll have a line of stuff, you know, probably in Target or whatever. Who knows, but she's back and also her blog TIG is back. And of course, they have not given any word about Kate. So I mean, it's

pretty juicy, all of it. And it might be in the end, that Meghan and Harry are like, Yeah, we told you so. It was fucking weird over there, and that's why we got the hell out. We tried to tell you how awful they were. We tried to tell you, and you all thought that I manipulated the situation and took poor Harry away from his brother.

I don't even know what to think. I go back and forth, back and forth, like I do so many things. Oh, want to warn all podcasters out there and people like me. I mentioned this maybe on my Patreon. I wanted to tell it again. I am getting these emails from several different podcasters and celebrities that have big shows in which they send it to my email. They, and it's a scam, it is not from the person. But the last one I got was from Joe Rogan.

And it was funny because it came the day that we talked about Joe Rogan with Natasha and Moshe. And I said, why doesn't Joe Rogan ever ask me to be on his podcast? And then I get this bogus email, this fake email saying that I should come on the show for $2,000. And I just want to make sure that anybody that's getting an email like this from me, it's not from me, and anybody that's receiving them, it's a scam. Do not engage with these people. Don't set a call. Don't go on your Facebook. It's all a scam. And I believe John Christ, who's a comedian, podcaster, he did fall for it. And his Facebook was compromised and he felt stupid. And so it's still going on. I can't believe they're still doing this,

but I need to share that. Also, this was super juicy. This girl went on TikTok. And they they some of the comments were like, you need to find Kate Middleton because she did such a great thing. She goes, hi, I just sat on a plane next to this guy. If this is your husband, his name is spelled Brian with a Y. She totally describes him down to his watch,

the color of his wedding ring in which she took a photo of his hand, described his backpack, his shoes, everything, the flight he was on, where he was going that he probably FaceTimed you and your young child after. But the minute he got on the plane, he opened up his phone and he set up a dating app account, a Tinder account for the city he was going in. And he even had an album on his phone saying dating app photos just for when he goes into town he can grab them and start a profile. And I mean, it's going as of today, it had, you know had probably many hundreds of thousands views.

But wow, guys, do not do, or girls, if you plan on cheating on your spouse, do not do it on the plane with someone sitting next to you, especially a chick like this. Because for sure, this wife has gotten this info. For sure somebody has sent this to her if she didn't find it herself. So good luck to her. Also Joy Behard chimed in on the Sharon Stone story that we talked about and she's like saying that you know oh she's just doing all this to be relevant again. Well, the story was in her book. She, everybody is on podcasts and doing interviews talking about their lives.

She has a long career. And it's just such an annoying thing to say, oh, you're just trying to be relevant. No, it's my life. It's my life. And I'm telling the story. Billy Baldwin said it's not true that she actually made sexual advances to him and he turned her down. So he's annoyed that she's talking about it. But again, Sharon, come on Juicy Scoop. Let's talk a little bit about The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

reunion part three. So Kathy comes out and just then Sutton has like a weird, shaking, almost like feigning type of situation. And definitely Cathy was not very sympathetic to it. She was like, oh, well, she's probably afraid of me. I was about to go after her. I don't know what she was going to go after her about, but she leaves and Garcelle goes with her. And then it's really just Kyle and her talking about their relationship.

And they talk about Moe, that he left her husband's agency to start his own. And she was fine with that. They were fine with that. But she didn't want him, they didn't want him poaching clients or agents. And apparently she said they did. And then Kyle was like, I don't want to talk about that stuff, I don't want to talk about stuff. And I really feel like she's like, there were just some things, there was just some things

with Mauricio that I knew and that I would put up with, and I just couldn't put up with it anymore, and it was just stuff that I saw that I couldn't unsee. And I watched that, and then I went to bed, and I went on my phone, and I see that Mauricio is doing TikTok dances to Beyonce, and jump, and he's doing a TikTok dance with his friend in the snow. And then he's doing another, I couldn't believe it was his TikTok. And then he's doing another TikTok of him working out and he's doing jump rope.

And I'm like, I think that's what she couldn't unsee is that Mariso is doing TikTok dances. And she's like, why? I think that was enough for her to be like, I can't go on. So they get into the Morgan Wade thing. There were some discrepancies in her story. She said, we were hanging out stagecoach together. And then she said, if I come and support you for your event, for your friend who passed, you have to be in my video, but for the sluice out there, we filmed this video before the rumors came out. But then you see them talk on the set saying,

we're doing this video, we're pretending to be in a lesbian relationship because the rumors are out. Again, I've talked about this more than anything this year. Are they scissoring or not? Is she doing lickety splits with Morgan Wade or not? I now say yes. And I am waiting for the cover of people of them sitting down with their legs entwined and saying, yep, we're in love. Something like that with the way they look at each other, the way they talk to each other. And then she said, yeah, I don't know.

I'm open to whatever. And Kathy was like, I just want my sister to be happy. Now, if I had a friend who people were assuming I was having a romantic relationship and I wasn't, I would be like, that's ridiculous. Like, she's not at all sexually interested in me, but yes, we're friends. Other people are like, no, it's not happening, but she likes the PR. Now I'm going back to say 100%, they are romantically involved. And the marriage broke up because he, you know, she couldn't put up with the flirting or the cheating or whatever anymore. And I thought it was really interesting.

She goes, and we've had these fights before, but then with all the travel that we both did, I thought we'd come back together and then we didn't. And I think in that interim is when she got really close to Morgan and there is an anatomy of a murder, an anatomy of a marriage that's 28 years long. So I thought it was really interesting. Some people thought it was boring. I can't get enough of it. And then we see Mauricio talk about why he left Hilton and Highland, Paris Hilton's dad's company and start his own on his new show on Netflix. And Paris chimed in. At first,

I did not know if this was actually Paris, but according to everybody else, it is. Paris writes, my father is a consummate gentleman and has always taken the higher road. He would never speak negatively about his family, especially in the press. Frankly, we are all sick of him using the Hilton name. Every chance he gets to plug his lame show, it is enough already. That's what Paris says. So that's hot. Yeah, so I think that the family is gathering around Kyle. I think they're glad to get rid of him and she had no problem saying that mean thing. However, their cousins are on the show. So I don't know, but they're also masters of social media and reality TV. But it is a fun situation to follow and watch.

All right, you guys, remember to go to HeatherMcDowell.net for Patreon for more shows, more live shows, adding those all the time. I will be in Palm Beach next, that's April 5th and 6th. You only go to HeatherMcDowell.net to get those tickets. All right, and now for my interview. I have returned Juicy Scooper, mother, wife, singer, podcaster, reality star of Vanderpump Rules, the one and only Sheena Shay. Good as gold. Hi. Welcome back. Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's been a minute.

I know. I'm glad when you were like, okay, let's get me back on. Yeah. And I'm glad that we could make, okay, let's get me back on. Yeah. And I'm glad that we could make this work because you're a busy girl. So busy. That's why I look the way I look today. I've just been running around nonstop. You look very cute.

Thank you. So stop. So much is going on in your life. Yeah. You just bought another house. Mm-hmm. And so you're in the process of moving. Yes.

And are you excited about also being a Valley girl with everyone else. I am. I think once I get settled in the house and I'm not living in boxes where I'm like, do I have a matching outfit to wear my shoes, where are my toiletries? Yeah, I think I will be very excited.

It's a great location. I can walk to Lala's house and that's just really exciting too. It's so great to see your friendship and then the girls. Now is your daughter three yet? She'll be three next month. Okay, we just saw each other at Ocean's party and I mean it really is fun to watch all the little girls and Stassi's daughter Hartford. I know. And like, it's just like, it's really, it's really fun and how close you guys got. And I even saw one Minnie Vanderpump situation happened between ocean and summer.

Wait, what? There was some, it was a heated moment. Did they get into it? It was just like, it was bubbles. It was a bubble gum, Did they get into it? It was just like, it was bubbles. It was a bubble gum, the bubble gun. Yes. And Ocean was doing it right at summer.

And she was just like, girl, it's not my thing. Rather you not shoot it right at my face. And Ocean's like, sorry, like it's my party. But then just like you guys, they got over it pretty quickly. Yeah. They got over it pretty quickly. Yeah. They got over it pretty quickly. So I think we're okay. Even this morning, we were at Skyzone

because today's Ocean's actual birthday. Okay. So we took the two of them and Ocean did like a boop to Summer. And then Summer's like, mom, she hit me. And then Lola's like, did you hit her? And she was, or did you try to boop? She was, I tried to boop.

And she was like, okay, well, let's just not boop people in the face. But it was like, just a little like, meh. But they fight like sisters. They love like sisters. And I just love that they actually will get to grow up together and go to school together. Because you guys also have your Palm Springs house.

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Oh, okay. I'm like, what episode just aired? I think it was seven. Okay. We saw you guys in Lake Tahoe, and you had a tough weekend because you took a photo with the, with a fan, which by the way, that fan must be loving life. Oh my gosh, right? Her face is all over the show.

So I've always said that you guys are always so nice. And I tell my juicy skippers go up to the Vanderpump cast, especially, they'll never not say no to a photo. So you guys are out filming, doing your thing, and you take a photo with this girl and you put your arm around, and Tom Sandoval is next to you. And so then the next morning or that night,

it gets posted. And what were some of the things that you were getting that were so upsetting from online? Oh, my gosh. I mean, just every insult in the book, I'm not a girl's girl, I'm disloyal, I'm a flip-flopper, of course I'm friends with him again. All of this based on a photo that we all hopped in.

And usually I have my phone in my hand or I have my string ting as you see. And I put my arm just like as I'm holding my phone. It wasn't like my hand was even wrapped around him. I just had my phone behind me and I was just standing. And I tend to tilt my head. We all know, thank you for putting me on my good side. I have a good side that I think.

That's why we're friends because your good side is not my good side. It works out perfectly. But in the photo, it's like the way I tilted my head, I just, that's just how I take photos. Right. And right as we got in, I was like, oh, okay, smile, and it'll be over soon.

And yeah, and then it just got picked up by like page six, and all of these articles are being written, all of these comments are coming in, and it was just overwhelming. So I'm like, first of all, I haven't even had a conversation with him. And now the entire world is jumping to, of course she's friends with him again.

And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Right. Let's not even. So, and at that point, we see that you are struggling because what year did you begin filming? Like you were the spinoff. The Sheena Shea, and you weren't Shea at the time, story was the only reason this show

had legs and could go from Vanderpump Rules, I mean from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills right over where they walk into the next set. Yeah, so seamless. Is because there was a connection between you and Brandi Glanville and her ex-husband that you had dated. And so what year was that? 2011 is when we shot our pilot and it all started. And then the first season was filmed 2012.

We were on air January 2013. So do you ever, is it crazy for you to think about the fact that you have been on this show for 12-13 years like a huge it's a third of your life how old are you? I'm 38 almost 39. Wow you look so young I thought you were like thank you. But that's a huge part of your life yeah and has there ever been a year that you were like, I just can't take it anymore and I want off this train? I feel like there have been several years

where you feel that way at a certain point, but then it passes and then you're ready to do it again. Like season six, for example, the Robb season, when that relationship ended and I moved to Vegas, it's like, how could I go back? But then after living my life in Vegas doing that show, I'm like, oh, I'm ready to go back. And then it just, you know, season after season.

And the show you did in Vegas was the, how to teach a, what was it? Sex tips for straight women from a gay man. It was an off-Broadway comedy and it was so fun. And you were kind of like one of the first Bravo reality people to do a stage show. Was I? Now that I think about it, that was before Luanne.

That was before we knew who Erika Jayne was. 2018? She might have been performing at the time, but we didn't know her to be a housewife. Yeah. Before everybody started to do their variations of BravoCon on their own. OK, let's get into it.

So with Rob, you met this guy, and it was the classic line. You have so many viral funny moments over the years. Are we calling them funny? Yes, I think they're funny. I think they're funny, OK? And it was, he put up a TV in seven minutes, and the amount of people that still, like, now time their husband when they bring home a flat screen and all of this. And so you guys break up, and then he came on my show, remember?

And I called you. That's right. You called me. I was living in Vegas. I remember exactly where I was when I got that phone call. And I was like, I think he's still really hot for you. And you're like, I don't care. I am single, I am ready to mingle, I want nothing.

And I was like, okay, well, I just wanted to let you know. Yeah, no, I was kind of like a full single mingle Vegas mode Sheena then. Yeah, yeah. Chippendales show this night, Magic Mike that night, Thunder from Down Under on the weekend. Now were you just living there on your own? Did it ever get lonely?

Like in the days sometimes or? I actually have family there. Okay. Yeah, I have cousins, I have aunts, uncles, and I have a friend group out there already. I've been going there my whole life. So Vegas has always kind of been a second home. Do you think you're gonna end up in Vegas at one point?

I think the next property I buy will probably be in the state of Nevada, yeah. Yes, I talked to your husband about that. And I think that's a great idea. Yeah. And I think it's great that Lisa has so many, you know, cocktail bar, the little restaurant, people. I've not heard one person

ever disappointed in going. Yeah. I love it. I think it's great. You go, you have your one great cocktail, you have your, you know, little app, and then you're off to another thing. Totally. It's perfect.

It's like, it's such a good model and so fun. And then to have other things that you can go and out and see. So let's get into the show because you got some shit because you are missing your friendship with Tom and you are feeling bad in the last episode and you reveal that when you were not doing well financially during COVID, all of a sudden he sent you, whatever, you don't have to say the amount,

but a few thousand dollars. Yeah. And that really meant a lot to you. Well, now my question is, did you, when you started to do well in Sandoval, did you send him, then mow the money back? I'll tell you after. Oh, okay, okay.

But you guys have this long friendship, and you said when everybody was a bitch to me and we were on the red carpet, he was the one that was nice. So can I have a little sympathy that I have lost a really close friend and confidant as well, which I thought I think is so compelling and interesting. And also you're on a show. Right. And you're not only in a friend group, but you're on a show. So it's like, you know, and as time goes on, like even the first couple episodes, you guys, you could see that there was, even though

it had only been a few months, you guys were having a couple moments where you're able to sort of chuckle about it. And like, it's starting to, you know, comedy is tragedy plus time and starting to get like funny, a little, there's some funny things about it, you know, of all that you guys have been through. But Katie was not having it. And Katie in her thing, referencing you, is like, in her opinion, he never really cared about you or the friendship. Be a good friend to Ariana and move the fuck along. It's easy for Katie to say

when she's hated Tom Sandoval since the day she met him. She didn't have a 15-year friendship with him. That's true. He was the only person in this group who had my back when the show started and consistently has had my back. So that's where it was tough for me because I don't agree with what he did whatsoever. I stand by everything I said on my couch

at the end of last season. He could have gone around this so many other ways. But with time, you know, you can heal wounds, you can start to move past certain traumas and that's what I was trying to do is, you know, yes, there were things that he said that were hurtful to me. There are things Katie has said,

Lala, Stassi, Kristen, the list goes on. Something everyone on the show has said thatala Stasi Kristen the list goes on Something everyone on the show has said that's been hurtful to me But he was the one who? Consistently had my back throughout all of this so that's what I was just trying to express is like That you're not just black and white here for me I do not agree with what he did to Ariana. And as the season plays out, you'll see more conversations between him and I

where I really am standing up for her and trying to explain like it wasn't just the affair. It's the things you've said and done after, and it goes deeper than just cheating. So I needed to put a little perspective in his brain with that. So then Lala is walking with Ariana and she's like, listen, Sheena is really getting a lot of hate for this stupid photo. Can you say something like, you know, and I understand, and I had this happen on such

a small level, where someone's like, you know, this friend of yours is getting unlawful hate from, but in my opinion, in my situation, it wasn't that many, and I thought by then bringing it up two days later on the podcast, it would give these losers the attention that they wanted. And I was just like, just ignore it, let a new show happen and blah, blah, blah.

But the other people still feel I was wrong and that I didn't do that. So I'm like, okay, so I understood when Lala was like, can you just say like, hey, Ariana stans, stand down, whatever, but then I understood her side where she's like, at this point, everything I say, every comment, every, if I like something, if I write under someone's thing, it's going to become a headline. So I think her perspective was, I could relate to, of just like, let me not say anything.

And then she did eventually say something and I thought that was really good. That she was just like, look, you know, she's a sweet girl. But one thing she said, she goes, I know that, you know, without saying the words, but it sounded to me like she thinks that you're kind of, because you are such a sweet person and you are a nice girl, a good friend, people have said that for years, that she's like, he'll get back in

and ingratiate himself through Sheena. And then they'll, and then all be the one in the end on the outs. And I thought that was like a really, like, I don't know, that's a possibility. I can see why she would think that. She's never going to be on the outs unless she puts herself there. None of us are ever going to push her out of this group. We all love Ariana. I felt like when you're filming a show with someone,

you kind of have to understand this isn't only Sheena's struggling with someone who, you know, has had her back for so long and they had a long friendship, it's also a cast member and we have a job to do. So that was very hard to navigate this season, where I just want to have her back, but I also want to do my job. And it's going to be a situation where he's there,

and I need to have a conversation with him. And in those conversations that I don't want to say I was forced to have, but maybe, you know, wouldn't have happened for years had we not been filming. Right. There were things that I started to see, where I'm like, OK, you are understanding my perspective.

And you're on was understanding. Yes. It was like, when I said things to him in a certain way, he realized, oh, it's not just about the affair. It's not just about this. It was everything he did after. It was weaponizing her mental health and saying, well, I couldn't break up with her because she

was going to do X, Y, and Z. It was so many other things that I'm like, you have to understand that it's not just the affair. And as I've had these conversations with him, I did see the light bulb click on where he was like, oh, I fucked up more than just this. Right. So as I'm having those moments and she's out here saying, well, he's never given me a real apology, like I deserve this and that. And I'm like, you're right,

you do. So then I'm trying to advocate for her to him and be like, but you owe her this and that. And it's like, I was in the middle and I'm in the middle of two friends, but I'm also doing my job. And it made it extremely difficult because now I'm looking disloyal when I'm trying to make her wish come true. I think that she wants a genuine apology, but then she doesn't want to talk to him. So how are you going to get the apology? Yeah, it is very sticky for all those reasons. Going back to what she said, being that I've experienced something similar, it's that, hey, go be friends, you know, find out for yourself, go be friends with your friends, but then there's an event.

And now those people are all going to go to his event. And certainly she's not going to go and now there's a moment happening between everybody and your ex that you're not a part and then what can happen TV show or not is that though then those relationships do get weaker because and it's very unfortunate when a couple mostly when a couple breaks up, especially what I've had, like a heterosexual couple, it really isn't that hard. We choose the woman, that's the end of it. You know, and it's like, I've never had, we've never, Peter and I've never had a couple where he is as close to the guy or closer as I am close to the woman or closer.

Or they break up and we both agree that the guy was weird and we don't wanna fuck with him. And you know, like, so it is very, your situation, TV show or not, is very unique because it was a friend group in which you guys had friendships before they got together, you know, versus like if Peter and I were to meet a couple through school, and five years later,

they get divorced, and we're like, oh, what a bummer, we had all these fun dinners, but okay. Yeah, it wasn't a Lala and Randall situation. Randall, easy to cut out, you know? I knew him because of her, that was not my friend of many years before this. Yeah, and when she asked me one time, we were talking, and I would easy to cut out, you know? I knew him because of her. That was not my friend of many years before this. Yeah, and when she asked me one time, we were talking, and I would talk to him too,

because, but I did meet him through her, and they came on the show and everything, and I thought they were this fun couple. And I mean, remember they were supposed to get married in April? I mean, she's gotta think, sometimes I say, as awful as COVID was, if COVID didn't happen, she would be married.

Yeah, she might not have ocean, I wouldn't have summer, so many things. Like, yeah, so like, she might've gotten married and been like, oh, this could wait, or now I have to go through a divorce or whatever. But when they went through all their stuff, when it first happened, he was texting me, because I didn't believe it at first.

So I was kind of like, wait a minute, these fans are getting involved. It's a photo across the street, who knows? And da da da. And then one time we were talking on the phone and we were talking about the latest thing that had come out about how it was the chocolate diamond that he got made into.

Right. And then she was, and I was like, oh my God. And she goes, you know, I have to ask you, or maybe it was before this. She's like, I have to ask you, Heather, like, you gotta decide. Like, what? I already decided.

I'm not gonna continue anything with him. If I, I mean, I'm not actively picketing his home, but I'm not gonna hang out, talk to him on the phone with him if I, I mean, I'm not actively picketing his home, but I'm not going to hang out, talk to him on the phone with him, whatever. And so that's a good point because then when people would bring up, you know, oh, but Lala, you asked everyone not to be friends with him, the guys or whatnot, don't go play pickleball with him, whatever. There is that. It is different. But it is different.

And also. And he's not staying on the cast. Right. Yeah. And also, you know, if Vanderpump Rules ended season 10, there was no season 11. I don't think I would have had as many conversations with Tom Sandoval over the past, you know,

eight months as I have. Right. We've been on a show filming for 10 weeks together at BravoCon at different events and whatnot where it's like, none of this probably crossover would have happened had we not gotten picked up for another season. So I think things would have panned out very differently

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growing up, her dad said it another. So she's okay. Either way. Okay I just didn't want to be disrespectful to her. Okay so what I So what I loved, what you displayed, is why I think you are an incredible reality star. Thank you. And also, I think Jax Taylor is too, for this exact same reason. You compare me to Jax? No, but you are who you are. I'm just kidding.

The whole point of reality TV is that you're being real. You're being authentic. It's not scripted. You're not pretending to be something you're not. The Sheena that we saw 13 years ago is still the Sheena today. Yes, you've matured and you have better makeup and better outfits and all of that. Still cringe.

But you're still who you are. And I feel like I have that too. Like, but in it, what makes I think you so likable to me at least is being authentic. And I've been that way too in this business. And being like, fuck, I'm happy for my friend but I'm gonna be honest, I'm a little jealous. I'm a little jealous.

I thought it was my turn. I'm so glad it's her. Glad it's not someone else, not from our show. But I really thought this was going to be my year. And I loved that you were honest about it. And the people being like, oh, she's a pick me girl, whatever. When you're in this business, you go up, you would, for me, go on auditions. And one time it was a panel show and they wanted a diverse panel. So when I saw my friend who was also white, and we were like, oh, there's no way, even though they're picking five people,

there's no way the two of us are gonna get it. What a bummer because we're so funny together. But, and then you're like, oh, but you still want it, but if your friend gets it, and it's, someone who's not in Hollywood can't understand what this is. Totally. This is an acting auditioning thing where you can be really good friends, but still. Yeah, I kind of want to elaborate on this a little more too because you didn't see the

full conversations obviously. You can't see every minute of every conversation. But the reason why it stung a little extra was because the previous season when Charli D'Amelio won, I'm very close with her family. I was at the finale, Teresa, Shangela, Gabby, like I had so many friends on that season. So we're at the party after,

as they always do on the CBS lot. And I had two producers and a costume designer come up to me that night and they're like, oh my God, how have you not been on this show yet? They're like, where's Dina Katz? We need to find Dina. We gotta introduce you like you need to do next season. She's the casting and executive.

She had already left with Charlie to go do Good Morning America on the flight. And so they were just like, okay, we're putting your name in. And for months I kept in touch with these people. We're friends on Instagram. I saw them at different D'Amelio parties and whatnot. And they're like, you're right up there. So I was like, maybe I should just start taking some dance classes.

Which is totally smart, but it's totally smart to do. Yeah. I had another friend who was on it, and that's what she did too. And I would do it too. Yeah, so I really did. And I would get shoes made for my fucked up feet so that I wouldn't have cancer. I got the shoes.

I actually started taking dance classes with Raquel because she was like, oh, I want to get back into dance. And I was just like, you know, just in case, just get a little technique down, and it was something that also, it's like a workout. Dancing is so much fun. And then I got a call from my producer friend that first week in March, and he was like,

I just wanna say, like, you know, we're starting to put names out there, and yours was the first one that I was going to recommend, but after everything that's happened, I'm pretty sure they're gonna reach out to Ariana. And I was just like, yay! Aw, I was like, I'm so, so happy for her. But also it was just like...

And you also see the executive decision of why that was gonna bring more eyes to the show. Yeah, but it wasn't just, I thought, because of Scandival, I'm gonna be on Dancing with the Stars. And I've seen that chatter online. I'm like, no, for months producers were like, all right, next season, next season. Totally an obvious choice, really.

But I thought her answer, in everything I've seen her do, I think she's answered so gracefully and like so respectfully of everybody's reactions to her and her success and any kind of digs that could be interpreted as digs. I think she sees where it's coming from. So I think she's come off great. And what she said was like, I think this will only bring more eyes to have people from our show and most hopefully,

you know, Sheena will do. I have some insight that I need to share with you. Okay. And we talked about, you guys talked about blind items and like reddits and stuff regarding Jackson things. And there is a item that came to me, I don't know how to tell you this, it's that a newer cast member of Vanderpump, they're seriously looking at her.

And I have a photo of her, and so I just want to prepare you, but they're saying this is the new person. BOTH LAUGH It's Summer Moon. She's only been on the cast for three years. Damn. And they said she's a natural. Yeah.

They said her dad's a stage dad, and he's gonna get her on. No, I'm just kidding. There's no competition. Did you think I had any scoop? Did you think I had any scoop? First, you got the juicy scoop. I was just like going through your photos and I saw her little Bella outfit and I was like, oh my God, what if summer mood

gets on Dancing with the Stars before she did? One day. But I totally saw that whole thing. And also that you were just having a rough week when you were laying in the bed in like Tahoe. It's just so weird fucking weekend. And I was sick and I never get sick. Maybe once every other year,

I actually am under the weather. And I woke up that day and I was like, oh no, no, no. It was like, I was already so drained emotionally that then physically it just, the icing on the cake. And the other thing someone wanted me to ask you about was the real like postpartum OCD thing that happens and being nervous as a mom and like thinking the worst. And how are you doing with all of that? Because you got you shared that part as well, which I thought was really interesting. Yeah, you'll see more of that. I'm happy about later this season. It's something that is a battle every day.

I didn't for one second question if I was going to talk about it this season. I feel like in my postpartum journey, season nine, I definitely talked about a lot of these things, but we were trying to figure out, you know, how to make a show after a pandemic. And there were other things, I guess, that were more important to tell.

But now that I'm able to talk about it and share it on the show, not just my podcast, has been so incredible because I've had so many women reach out like, oh my God, me too. And it's gotten better. I got on Zoloft for a bit and then before I just committed to an SSRIRI I wanted to try what's SSRI like just that type of prescription medication and I wanted to

try some more natural ways maybe microdose mushrooms see if that you know does wonders like people say and I didn't really feel the same relief as I had from the Zoloft and so I went went and saw Dr. Amon, who is incredible. Brock and I both got brain scans, and he saw an OCD brain and an ADHD brain. And through his supplement plan- Wait, do you have both? You mean?

No, Brock is the ADHD. Oh, okay. OCD, ADHD. Got it. What a fun combo. And so he put us, right? But he put us on a supplement plan to help balance our brain chemistry.

And it really has helped us as a couple so much. But also the intrusive thoughts, when they peek in, instantly my brain is like, that's not real. In a more sense where I'm not watching the entire thing play out and then just thinking about it over and over. So you would think of the worst case scenario and then you can't get it to remove, you can't remove those thoughts.

Yeah. Oh, about your daughter and about like- Just something happening to her. And I think also I've been doing a lot of EMDR work, I've been doing exposure therapy, and I think even with that, it's helped me in situations where now things like, I literally watched her fall off the couch and break her arm, but I stayed calm.

I got her to the ER and we did it. And it was like one of my biggest fears, but I was like, okay, she's okay, you're okay. And so I feel like it's getting better. It's easier to manage. It's not as debilitating as it was in the beginning, but... You know, I only found out about this like a year ago, which I think makes so much sense

in when I look at how Peter and I would worry about our kids differently. And because I carried my own biological child, you probably know this, but I did not know this, that their cells are still in my head. Yes, how wild is that? And I'm like, this explains everything. This is mother's intuition.

This is why I worry about things differently than Peter. And it doesn't mean that Peter's not a great parent. But I've said this to my friends. I even had a friend who's divorced. And their kid is older. And she's like, I mean, I just can't believe that my ex isn't doing this and this and spending this and this time.

And I go, but he's a man. And she's like, what do you mean? I go, it doesn't mean he's a bad dad. He's just not a mom. He's just not a mom. And our thing, you know, like I was doing my schedule for my standup and stuff. And like I had to move a whole thing around

because Brandon chose a school and I'm like, I have to be there to move him in. I'm like, I literally wouldn't move. I would not miss that for $1 million. And Peter's like, really, for $1 million? I'm like, yeah, seriously. For $1 million? I'm like, I wouldn't.

So don't really offer me anything on that Oregon State University of Oregon movement. Because there's just certain things where I'm like, oh my god. And it's part of that. And I think sometimes your partner, if he's a man, can't totally understand without it being explained even in a more medical way of like.

That's what worries me about if we do have another, we have to do a surrogate because I got help syndrome and almost died in labor. My doctor's like, look, if you're gonna be not ready until you're 40, I do not recommend you carrying. And that's the thing I worry about is, am I gonna have the same bond, the same intuitions, the same feelings with a child that I don't carry?

I know for so many people, you know, it's not an option to carry. And that's where I'm at now too. But after having that experience, I'm like, do I even wanna do that? Well, Khloe Kardashian was extremely honest about it because she carried true and she didn't carry her son. And I loved that that, yeah, sometimes it's not as easy as,

oh my God, I have the means. Yeah. Sometimes it's just not, you know? And speaking of your husband, Brock, so one thing I thought was really interesting that I saw is that a podcast host, Nick Vial, who I know and think he does a great job, but I didn't appreciate that he, for whatever reason,

was talking about Vanderpump or whatever, and talked about you and Brock, and he called Brock on the payroll. What did he say? So Charlie did his podcast and referred to Brock as a payroll husband. Oh, Charlie, who used to be on Vanderpump. Okay.

Yeah, and then Nick continued it on the podcast that he did with Katie and Dana and asked like, oh, well, what do you think about the payroll husband or whatever he said? And that really pissed me off too, because I experienced those types of jokes and comments. And this was, you know, 10 years ago when I was on Chelsea lately.

And I would just like let go because, ha ha, we're a comedy show, we're all comics, whatever. And Peter always said it didn't bother him. But I mean, they would literally say these kind of things on the roundtable. And my husband always had a career. Even when I was at Chelsea Lately, he was still being a mortgage broker.

But he was the one picking up the kids from school and all of that. And thank God he didn't have a job that, thank God he wasn't a lawyer that was like traveling around the country to go to court. But that would have been more respected. That would have been, they would have been happier with the fact that I had a livid nanny than the dad who

was doing his thing his own way, which was like, oh, there's no bath, but we went swimming, and then I sprayed him with the hose after. I'm like, whatever, they're alive. What am I going to say? He's the stay-at-home dad. It was just things like that, and it all, obviously, has worked out.

So I was good for you guys being like, that's fucked. And so then with the group, I was the only mom at the time. And then the guys started having kids with their wives. And I'm like, and I still never said this, because I'm not a mean person, but I wanted to be like, oh, we're going to talk about your wives that don't work, and they're home with their kids. Like, what losers? Why aren't they medical doctors? Why aren't like?

I know so many double standards. And it's like, I would rather summer be home with her dad, of course, and a nanny and rather than my mom, you know, I would rather be with one of her actual parents. And if I'm working, I love that he is as available as he's been over the past two years. Yeah. Because I think that's the best. And he's such a good dad. And anyone who follows him on social media sees the reels he does.

If there's been two times I wasn't able to take her to dance class, because I was in, I think, New York for Watch What Happens Live and had something else. I was filming something fun with Katie recently. Good. And I couldn't go to her dance class. But he does his little videos with her, getting her ready. And it's just he's such a good dad.

And yeah, I mean, she's so lucky to have him. Yeah, but did you ever get an apology or anything? Oh, no, he's doubled down. He just posted another reel I saw of me, like, two days ago, which I did have to go and comment on, because someone was like, keep Sheena's name out of your mouth. I said, but then how would he stay relevant? What else would he talk about if it's not me?

Well, it is interesting, you know, as someone who's been covering all the Bravo stuff for years, my show is going on eight and a half years. Sorry, I don't want to brag. It's one of the oldest ones. And the reason I've always been so involved with the shows, Housewives and whatnot, is because I am a woman and I've been through all these things and the shows are mostly based on women's experiences.

And it's fine that straight men are getting into this space, but it's a little bit like, come on. You know, it's like I'm not talking about, you know, itchy balls, I can't experience that. Also, he's someone who surrounds himself with women in like their early 20s. Well, yeah, and his wife, well, I don't know, they're engaged, but congrats on their baby. But was she a podcasting host before she met him?

No, they had great chemistry. And that's what's great about podcasting is that it's a conversation. So if you have great chemistry with your spouse or your girlfriend or whatever, and then yeah, now they have their own thing going. But it's not like, you know, she was an accredited podcaster and like, you know, she's famous for because of him, which is great. So then if you have that situation, why are you trying to be ever-negative about somebody else?

And when reality, life, you're being yourself, you're being your life. And thank God you have a partner who wants to participate. There's a lot of Real Housewives husbands that really don't. And those shows, I think, suffer some, that we don't get to see the dynamic of the relationship. Yeah, totally.

Yeah. So I'm glad that we cleared that up. OK, so then we get to Lala. Lala and Katie got into it. And it was good. They both had good points. And it was like, don't you talk to me like that. And she's like, don't you talk to me about that.

And Lala is so funny, because she'll tell me, she's like, oh, I went lala, I went full blown lala on her ass. Like it does come out, even though she's this, you know, pregnant mama and she can be fun, it still comes out and it's not an act. No, it is not. And so I thought that was pretty juicy.

Yeah, definitely. That they had their moment about it. And so anyway, it's all good. Now, what? OK, so now this came out. I am telling you, I think this is a funny tribute. Only because you ever put this together, I can't even imagine how many hours it took.

Oh, yeah, this is a similar thing. Have you seen this? No, but I saw the one that Nick did, and he took all of these old scenes in it and stuff, and I'm like, of course there are scenes about me. That's not- For 13 years. Obviously, that wasn't what I meant. I was just meaning I'm never allowed

to be like emotionally affected by something that goes against the grain. Right, okay. So this girl, Christina, but maybe at Coca-Coco put it together. I don't know. I found it on TikTok. And I was like, I would love it if someone took all my moments together

and got into it in editing bay, because like I can't even... And of course it's a lot of moment, like little chunks of you saying the same type of thing, or it's not about me, but it is about me, but why can't it be about me? But it's not to make it about me, but so I thought it was like totally funny.

I thought it was funny. And so it's always been about Sheena, well, you're a reality star. So, but again, I like the honesty. I think that's what makes you you and why you just keep going. Yeah, and I think with when I said that, that time specifically,

obviously I was completely emotionally drained from that day and the meditation and just everything, having to film with him and being put in this position. Yeah. But from the time Skandoval broke, obviously, I just was Team Ariana. But I was genuinely affected by this from Tom and Raquel. James was genuinely affected by this.

Jesse Montana, so many people in this group were personally affected, but we weren't allowed to be because it was only about Ariana. And so what I was trying to articulate, was just like, but can I just have a second where people can understand that like I was affected too. James, Jesse, like the list goes on and on. There were other casualties. Ariana's brother, Jeremy, was very affected by this. This was someone who he considered a brother for the majority of his adult life.

Like there are so many people who outside of, yes, they didn't get cheated on by Tom Sandoval, were affected. And that's all I was trying to say, but nothing I ever say comes out the right way. Right. So Rachel Raquel has her podcast. And I listened the other day. How do you do that to yourself? Because I was coming from the Palm Springs area to go to the Ocean Party. Okay. And I was like, let me just hear just to see if there's something.

And it's, it's so interesting, because she said something that I thought she thought would be a diss, but I didn't think it was. And it was, she said, well, Tom Sandoval taught me this. It's pretty like shocking or something like that, that don't have a conversation off camera. If you have something to say, save it for camera while you're filming because that's what makes a better reality show. And I'm like, that's great. That's real. Yeah. Duh. I was like that... I mean, I know from Megan King Edmonds, like Megan King Edmonds, that's

her from Real Housewives of OC. Before she and her husband got divorced, because she did the ultimate mistake and had a threesome with somebody, and then he went with now married to the girl that she invited. Yeah, cautionary tale. Anyway, so she, one time I interviewed her and it was still while they were together, and I'm like, yeah, but I'm like,

you know, Megan, he is so crotchety on camera. He so wants nothing to do with you. And she was, that's because I've already come home, told him the whole story that happened on Girls Trip, and then we'd have to reenact it. So he'd already heard the story before. And most men are like, you know, not dying to hear a story twice. Right. So then he comes off crotchety, but he probably was anyway. So I'm like, well, this is great advice. We don't want to know that you reenacted it, but it's almost like she was like, so I mean, yeah.

And I'm like, well, what? That's good advice. That is good advice for being authentic. And that was one of the first things I told Brock when he joined the show. I said, there are gonna be times when I come home we wouldn't normally have a conversation, but if we're filming together the next day,

we'll have that conversation then. I don't wanna have to retell you. I want your real reaction. I don't want you to sleep on it, have the night to think about what, it's just like, no, you have those conversations when there's cameras in your face, that's your job. Oh, that was the other thing Nick accused you of.

Oh, rehearsing scenes with Brock, I heard that too. Yes. Yeah. And I didn't think so at all, but I was. No, because we literally, the opposite. I don't talk to him until there's cameras. Right. And then you were doing the bikini,

baiting through shopping thing. Yeah, that was rehearsed. Like, come on. And that one I totally related to, too. You're just like, no. I'm not going to do that. Why are we saying that here? And I get how he's like, where he's coming from, too.

But I thought that was really real. But I also thought his apology was really nice. Yeah. And I thought that was good to see, too. Totally. And that's the thing. It's like, we're a real couple going through real issues, Yeah. And I thought that was good to see too. Totally. And that's the thing. It's like we're a real couple going through real issues, raising a kid with slightly different

parenting styles and just trying to navigate that. And that was something that, you know, I was okay to put out there on the show because I do think it's relatable. Everything is not perfect. And I feel like I've been guilty of that in my past relationships where I try to paint a perfect pretty picture to the world and behind closed doors it's not always been perfect. And after the Rob relationship

and the whole Adam of it all, but you know, I said I was never- Oh, the Apple Watch, the Apple Watch? Oh, that was Max. Adam was the penguin. Anyway. Oh, wait, you got a penguin for him, named Adam. It was a charitable donation to the aquarium of the Pacific.

Was it a gay penguin? Do you know that penguins, a lot of them are gay. I did hear that, yeah. And they go and get eggs from like their female friend who's like, I don't need to raise this kid, but you and your gay boyfriend can have it. And then they go take the egg. Kind of beautiful.

It is. I just figured since you live in West Hollywood at the time, I love that you chose a penguin. Yeah, that was his favorite animal. And I was just like, how can I get this guy back at the Long Beach Aquarium? Have you ever gone to visit it? No.

Wait, you have to go and take a summer in ocean and go visit penguins. Adam and see what he's up to. Yeah, but. Did you also do a star or no, was that somebody else? No, Brock got a star for me. Oh, okay. Yes, yeah.

And then recently for our anniversary, he got me the coordinates of the place we had our first kiss put on this really cool cool plaque that like lights up and it was really Unique and special. Yeah, he's very thoughtful with the gifts But yeah, I did say when you know after season 8 pandemic, I have a baby I agreed to come back to the show season 9. I said we're putting it all out there if we fight we fight We're not saving our fights for when we get home. If it ends up on camera, then we deal with the backlash,

you know, if there is any once it airs. But I wasn't gonna try and be like, everything's perfect. And then go home and be like, ah. Yeah, good. Yeah. I was just thinking about your wedding. Do you feel, I remember there, you know, you had Rachel Markell as a bridesmaid,

you did do a funny photo and put Lolli's head on her or whatever. Is there any part of you, and maybe you're over it now, that was like, wow, now the memory is a little bit tainted, or are you okay with that? Because the relationship was going on behind everyone's backs at that time between her and Sandoval and you didn't know. Yeah I had no idea and at the time they were two of my closest

friends so there was no doubt that I wasn't gonna have them in my wedding so I don't have any regrets I mean I wish Lala was also a part of it but I felt like her and I were still working up to where we are now. Like today, I mean, she would be standing up there right next to me, you know? It's just taken some time to rebuild that friendship and trust. But at the time, the people up there with me were those who were closest in my life.

Yeah, good, good. Okay, this is from my thing. So they said, this is from my Patreon, because I talked a little bit on my life. Yeah. Good, good. OK, this is from my thing. Oh. So they said, this is from my Patreon, because I talked a little bit on my Patreon about this. They said, I love your take on Vanderpump. It's so refreshing. Sheena gets so much hate in general

and has since she's episode one. But what you said is so true. I'm glad that the years of fans dragging her hasn't changed how honest she is. I saw a comment on Instagram that said anyone who can't understand Sheena being happy, but also jealous, has never auditioned for a part that their friend got.

People have always said these storylines are fake, and personally, that's how I feel about Real House is Beverly Hills. But Sheena is always just who she is. And like her or not, I appreciate that. It makes the show dynamic and relatable, which is why I like reality TV. Very nice, I appreciate that it makes the show dynamic and relatable, which is why I like reality TV. Very nice.

I appreciate that. Yeah, you know, call me cringe, whatever. I do think I'm often misunderstood, but I always try to be me. I try to be true to who I am. And if I live in the gray at times and people disagree with that, I can go to sleep at night knowing

that I made the best decisions that felt right for me at times and people disagree with that, I can go to sleep at night knowing that I made the best decisions that felt right for me and to make me the best version of myself to have inner peace for my daughter. Was there a moment in the last 13 years where you were able, I mean, we saw you get upset in Lake Tahoe for all those reasons, but where you kind of made the switch of like,

okay, I can't read this stuff or I have to do something therapeutic where I don't let the haters make me question myself. Yeah, actually when season six was airing and I was living in Vegas, for five months at least, maybe a little longer, I completely deleted Instagram and Twitter from my phone. Vegas for five months at least, maybe a little longer, I completely deleted Instagram and Twitter from my phone.

If I had a funny thought, I would text my sister and I would tell her to tweet it for me. I had Snapchat because no one could respond to me on Snapchat, so I would still post there. So I was doing something, I would save my video, send it to my sister, she would post it on Instagram Story, and she was like, you gotta stop using the Snapchat filters. Instagram's like getting better with theirs

and it's like obvious you're not using the Instagram filters. So for those like five, six months, I just completely disconnected. I started my podcast during that time and I just stayed out of the comments because I felt like mentally that was what I needed to be in the best head space because it does. It gets so toxic and negative

and people can only take so much. Even last week, the last two weeks actually, haven't really looked at anything. I did get sent the Nick Viall reel and I just had to just leave a little comment because why not? But I didn't look at anything else that was on there. It was just like one of the first ones was like,

keep her name out of your mouth. And I was like, but then what would you have to talk about? Yeah, I like it. Okay, real quick, Joe, we see Joe who at the time is friends with benefits or maybe just friends with Tom Schwartz. And okay, first of all, the hair, she's a hairdresser. I mean, look, I'm not, I don't mean to rip her apart.

She agreed to be on the show. But I saw the funniest thing that someone said on TikTok, and I, so it's not my idea, but I thought it was brilliant. And the girl goes, I feel like Joe is what Gen Zers do when they make fun of millennials. Like, ah! And like, do these faces, and then do like,

wuh-wuh-wuh, and just like, hurl. Like, it was so, I was like, what? Okay, give me your opinion on her. What's going on? Yeah, it's been very interesting to watch, and because I'm now so many episodes ahead, just prepping for the reunion, I have seen many more scenes of her.

She's an interesting person. Does she act like that when the cameras are not there? Yes, she's always like that. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's not like a shtick. She's always like that and has been for years. And was she ever featured on the show before, really? No.

OK. No. And I think it was a big betrayal to Kristen after, you know, she was let go from the show for Joe, her best friend. Oh, they were best friends. Yeah, they were inseparable, like together four times a week.

And after all that happened with Kristen, Joe was just like, fuck that show. And, you know, like so hardcore had her back. And then moves in with Schwartz and then starts filming. And it was a huge betrayal for Kristen. So they don't talk anymore. I saw Kristen and Jax and Brittany, you briefly at the Valley premiere and Janet, who is now one of the cast members.

I've talked to her throughout the years and I was like, how, yeah, I know you knew the group, but like, how did you even know the group? And she's like, I had just moved here, and I went to the Mondrian, and there was some event, and you were there, and she walked right up to you, and she said, in her words, you guys got drunk, had the best time, exchanged numbers, and then you called her and was like,

isn't tomorrow your birthday? And she's like, yeah. She's like, what are you doing? And she goes, well, nothing. Like I just moved here. I don't know anybody. I'm not gonna party. And you're like, and she said, you said,

get ready at 9 a.m. and you picked her up and you took her to Disneyland and you made her wear it's my birthday pin. Yeah. I just needed to let the world know what a nice story that is. Thanks. Yeah, she kind of goes into a little more of that on my podcast next week.

I don't know when this one will come out in comparison. But yeah, we just hit it off right away. And I knew she was going through a divorce. There were similarities with our ex-husbands and the reasons why we wanted out. And once she moved to LA, I just clicked with her right away. And yeah, I knew her birthday was coming up. And I'm like, you can't spend your birthday alone. Like, I've got a season pass.

We'll get you a ticket. Let's go to Disneyland. Put on your Mickey ears and your It's My Birthday pin. And we had the best day. And I think that just kicked off our friendship. Now that she has her own show and is on her own show, is there ever a time where you worry that, maybe not her, but other friends

that were not on the show or now on the show that it would ever, I mean, granted, her show is not the same as yours, but who knows if there'll ever just be a crossover with you in the valley. Like, I don't know if I would love it. I'll be honest, because I'm honest. I don't know if I would love it. I'll be honest, because I'm honest. I don't know if I would love it if my friend that was always just a friend

that came to everything is now on a red carpet and everything, too. I'd be happy for her because she seems like she's nice. Yeah. But I'd be a little worried in this business, like, if you were ever to be on the valley years down the road, would that ever get weird? No, Janet and I have already had a weird fallout in our friendship during the pandemic,

and we made our way back from that, and I don't really ever see that happening again. I think we both understand each other way better. And sometimes friends, you know, Lala and I, we had the same thing happen, and we are better than ever. I think sometimes it takes something like that for you to realize who is really important in your life and who you want in your life long term.

And sometimes those breaks make you stronger as friends. So I don't worry about that with her. I'm so happy for her. I think she is hilarious. Her husband is amazing. He is the voice of reason. The fans are just going to fall in love with him. And I'm happy that she has this opportunity, because when she was on Vanderpump with me,

but then she started becoming friends with Dana, and then there was like the, oh, I'm going to have a threesome with Dana and Max, and things that were just rubbing me the wrong way. And I was like, and she didn't. But it just started to get a little weird. And then we went into a pandemic shortly after season eight and just kind of went our separate ways for a bit.

And since we've come back together, it's like we can look back and laugh at some of these things. But I think she's going to be really great on this show. And I'm really happy for her. And I think the only way I would maybe have the like, ugh, is if I was unemployed, you know? If I'm like not on my own show and then here's someone I brought on the show

doing her own thing and I'm out of a job. But you know, I hope Vanderpump continues for a while. I hope we continue to do crossovers. As you saw in the premiere, you'll see more of that in the upcoming episodes. And who knows where the future for either show goes. But I think it's very easy to integrate them. And every single person on the Valley

is genuinely a friend of mine who I talk to on a regular basis. Yes, and that's what I love and why I think in some of the years of Vanderpump, where it felt not totally authentic is because they did go the route of casting versus like truly the only people that really work and get end up on the show is if they end up dating one of you guys. Yeah.

I mean that is how Rachel Raquel got on. That is how well actually that's a James. Or if they're your nanny. Oh right, we're gonna see that, right? You'll see a lot more of that. We're gonna see the nanny with, yeah, like what? That's gonna be juicy. We see in the trailer, Katie making out

with your female nanny. Yeah, she also went on a date with Schwartz. Amazing. So that is all juicy and I love it. All right, I know you have to go. So tell everybody where they can catch everything. Everything is just at Sheena, S-C-H-E-A-N-A. I have new music on Spotify and Apple Music with the 27s. We have even more coming out, a full EP. I'm excited to get some more shows lined up in LA

and hopefully across the country with them. And yeah, you know, new episodes of Vanderpump Rules. And my vlog comes out every Wednesday. Podcast comes out every Friday. I love it. I love you. I'm so glad you came. I love you. Me too. And I will always be for you

and I like the honesty. Thank you. And it can be about you Sheena. Thank you. It can always be about you. I love you. Let's go Dancing with the Stars next year. Do not give it to Summer Moon. Awesome. Thank you. Thanks.