Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Selena Gomez Wedding Snub, Denise Richard’s Divorce with Guy Branum

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

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Hannah McDonald's Juicy Scoot Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have my friend, my office mate, oh my gosh, attorney, a director, a filmmaker. What did I direct? Have you not directed yet? No. Model, actor, now social influencer. Yes.

Maybe a winner of a ring. Have you heard about the rings? No, what are the rings? There's a new thing that I saw. They're going to be like an award show for content creators. Oh, wonderful. So you might win a ring. I'm very excited.

Because you're finally spending the time and doing really funny things, roasting food at county fairs. Yes. Very funny. That's probably my favorite video you've done lately. Guy Branum, multi, multi award winning writer, which you brought them all the last time. Yes. And just how are you? I'm great.

It's always good to see you. But more than that, a lot of stuff has been going on that I've wanted to talk to you about, but not the least of which is I over the course of the last three months consumed all of Vanderpump and my eyes are open now. So you started from the very beginning. I started from the very beginning because I wanted

to understand and also like I had seen that backdoor pilot years ago when they did the episode that was Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and then it turned into half an episode. They followed yeah they followed Sheena to the other room. Right and like Jack's was a

very compelling persona. The kind of person that we all see in Los Angeles, and I did want to, like, chart this full journey so that I could really understand Scandival. And now that I have taken it all down, like... So you finished all of it. You are caught up to the end. I'm caught up to the end. And I really feel like they squeezed all the juice out of that. Like, there are a couple of people on there who I still, like, I think Sheena is a great reality show performer. I think I do deeply love Lala. And I think that they have more reality show in them, but most of those people, it's like we got everything we're going to get out of both Tom's. We got everything we're going to get out of

Ariana. And like I really felt like it was a complete story. Very, I love, first of all, you know, so many times people are like in the comments when someone writes on Juicy Scoop obsessed or whatever my patron going, all right, guys, you know, I've never watched this or what's season of housewife should I start on or what and the comments are always like I'm so jealous I'm so jealous that you're starting from the beginning and so it's kind of fun here someone like you who you know you know can appreciate what that show was and I agree it it is like no other because it involved what the rest of the world wondered what it was like to be a young aspiring actor model doing the waiter thing in LA and they were all real

and they all had relationships and they all worked at this place and I don't think there's been a more organic origin story to a reality show than what Vanderpump was besides the Osbournes and the Kardashians who were truly a family like even more so than any real housewives because even in the beginning of real housewives there was a bit of casting and people meeting for the first time when the cameras came on.

This was from this, and that's what made it so fascinating as a reality show Bravo fan. And it is to me kind of like an end of an era because I'm going to, I'm doing BravoConn. And like two years ago, it was still in the height of like the whole Scandival and they were all there. And now it's like Tom Sandoval is, you know, not really going to be part. of the valley that we know. Yeah. And Lala is going to be part of the valley, but I don't know if you're aware, but Sheena is not. Oh, really?

And I have to imagine Sheena wants to. Well, that's what's so juicy about it. Okay. Okay. So Sheena, there's a lot to Sheena that I relate to. Uh-huh. They call her the pick-me girl. Uh-huh.

And people would say that about me when I was on the panel. Yes. And just, you know, just sort of like happy and. And people would say, oh, you make it about yourself and all this other stuff. And, but very entertaining. And truly the reason Vanderpump had a reason to go was because of her connection with having this affair prior, you know, before we see it. But in the past, she had had a affair with Eddie Sibreon, who was Brandy Glanville's husband. And so, you know, it launched there.

So it's crazy that now third season of Valley, which we all thought. So I, to just fill you in, she wrote a book that is a New York Times bestseller. And one of the, the main bomb drop that nobody knew until the book was like out and on the shelves is that her husband, now husband, Brock. Yeah. Before they were married, they got pregnant with their daughter, Summer Moon. And while she was pregnant, Brock had an affair. Uh-huh. Okay.

And Brock let her know, ironically, during the actual unfolding of. Scandibald that two years prior he had an affair because he was seeing reddits and things and he thought it would come out. Yeah. She took it in, kept it to herself. Yeah. Like, didn't tell anybody. Oh, so they're saying it was unfair of her to not be revealing misinformation while

Scandival was coming out? Some people think that. Some people appreciate that in the book, she explained, now she explains what was going on during her life. But me personally, I was like, first of all, brilliant to save the nugget for your book because you're given everything on reality shows, you have your own podcast, you've done immediate interviews, like you've got to save some stuff for your book. However, I was like, okay, what was the logic behind sharing it?

One is you just want to be authentic. Okay, that's noble. But let's make some lemonade out of it. Right. So I'm thinking, okay, you're going to come on. the valley. We're going to have discussions with you and Brock that, you know, that you've gotten past it or that. Was she being gatekeeping about it? Was she saying I'm not going to talk about this? No, I don't think so. Oh, okay. I don't know. So anyway, so that's what I thought would happen.

Yeah. Then there was rumblings where she and Lala weren't getting along, which I kind of went through on the last episode. And so I was like, well, and that'll be really great to kind of see them manage, you know, because so much of these friendships in-housewives and stuff, some of it has a lot of it has to do with the actual filming of the show or a brand deal that you're both up for or we did a commercial and she was acting like a diva and like it's not just what we're seeing about oh you didn't bring the carrot cake it's like you know and now they kind of break the fourth wall and we can see that they all have these big careers I love when you have a flashback to a reunion episode during an actual episode and then they call it New York they're like what happened in New York because they can't they don't say the reunion okay fine so so so then And I see, she's not doing the Valley. And rumors are, oh, it's because she exposed too much about how they make reality TV in her book and Bravo's pissed. So she has Alex Bafson come on her show and he's the producer of that stuff. And he's like, no, that's not the case.

We did give you a compelling offer. I thought it was a compelling offer. And she's like, and I chose no because she saw a comment that. that really stuck with her where someone said, I feel like Sheena is the girl who graduated from high school and keeps coming back to the high school parties. But I wish...

But that's what... I wish she would have... The valley is community college. The valley is community college for reality TV. It's its point is that it's, you know, it's that you've moved along, but like you haven't moved away. I totally get her point and her desire to do other things.

And, you know, she's... Maybe it was... in viewing the offer, which maybe the money wasn't that great. Yeah. Maybe it was, okay, I do want to make this marriage work and I don't think rehashing it, which I'm going to have to do is going to be good for my family. I don't know. But she turned it down.

She turned it down. And yeah, and I feel the same way. Like I was like, well, but she, what's smart about Sheena is that she didn't, you know, go off with guns of blazing and flipping them off. and threatening to sue or something. She's just like, hey, never say never. Thanks for coming on my show. And I think Alex Baskin is also smart enough to know that, yeah, maybe next season you'll

want to come on and it'll even be juicier, whatever your life is. That's a thing. I mean, I do really think it's hard when your main, your business is just being you and what goes on in your life. And then they're like, you need to share this. And if you don't share it, they get mad. And if you share it, then you could really fuck up like the trajectory of your marriage your kids. Well, it's something that

I think you have encountered as somebody who loves this stuff and pays a lot of attention to it, but also you have an amazing, like artistic career and like some of these people the only skill that they have is stirring the shit. Yeah.

And like it can be rough when the only thing when your most marketable skill is starting a fight. I have a question for you. I have so much respect for the women who managed, I think it was only well no i mean like for everyone who managed to fuck their way onto that show inside of like a permanent basis including brock but you mean oh find a find a relationship of someone who's

cast and then you become a cast member yeah and rickney and like the fundamental question for me has to be was it chicken like was it chicken shit of rachel to get herself into that situation and then be like i can't deal with it or like part of me is sympathetic to it must have felt like the world hated you when it when scandevall came out i mean it did she had like major mental health issues like she went to like a place yeah and now she is got a great boyfriend uh-huh she was doing a podcast which she stopped where she'd recap the show she would be a terrible podcast well i also i think mentally like yeah just like anything in this world of social media it's like yeah stop following someone, mute them.

Like you don't need to see all the fun they're having without you. You don't need to see them filming without you. They always make such a big deal like, oh my God, Garcel from Real House of Beverly Hills, stopped following all the cast members. That's what you should do. Yeah. Like you shouldn't be seeing them all doing stuff

because you know that when you look at it, it gives you like an emotional reaction because it's painful and like, and maybe you want people to know that you've moved on and you're not following them. I feel like the Garcells and the Heather Dubros and, like, maybe not Lisa, but like, definitely Eileen Davidson, like, took it as a job, did it as a job to help their career. Yeah. And then when they were done, went off and treated it like it was a job.

A stint. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very interesting, too. Yeah.

And I think they probably, you know, it's fun to have a star, but they probably are like, yeah, no, we want a lifer. Like we want a lifer, we want someone who's going to get tenure who's going to have no way getting out. They're going to have to be trapped because they're going to get addicted to the fame. Terry Dubrow was recently being interviewed to Heather Dubrow's husband, who's a plastic surgeon from OC. And he said, all the women hate, this is what he said. I thought it was pretty, he goes, all the women hate doing the show. But they are addicted to now being famous. And he said, I like being famous too.

Being a reality story is different than me and Tom Cruise. I can go to restaurants. Yeah. I'm just famous enough where it's fun. Yeah. And it does not like I have to, you know, I can't have a day on my own. Like, it's never like that because a lot of people don't watch the shows and don't know who you are. Yeah.

But, yeah, the fact that it now it's become this thing where you have to fight. And I mean, I'm just like the anxiety that I get sometimes when I'm like, I have an episode that comes out that maybe I said one thing that people were like, how dare you say that? Like, I even get like, ooh. And then I'm like, wow, if this was with people that I really were friends with and then all the pile on of all the people now and what it's become podcasting, Instagram, people talking about it, it's a lot. Well, there's been criticism.

Like some people have criticized in Taylor Swift's new album, sort of some of the things that she says about the experience of being famous. And, like, I'm thinking specifically of a lyric that is about, like, an eldest daughter. I think, like, how easy it is to criticize people and how everybody just put on Wolf's clothing and acts, like, looks fire. And basically, it's much easier to be aggressive and act like nothing impacts you than it is to be, like, honest and emotionally vulnerable in this time. And I do think it is something more universal than just something experienced by the biggest pop star in the world. But I also think there's something... interesting. I think there are some people in public discourse who have become very comfortable

with being wrong and just like saying things and doing things that are wrong sometimes and accepting that that is the cost of doing business when there are cameras on you all the time. Yeah. And I think the fear of that and trying to, because it is hard when people criticize you. Yeah. But also that is, it's going to happen. And you just kind of have to like walk through it. And now it's like we're used to the housewives, like, fighting and saying mean things and bringing up, you know, horrible things about their business stuff. And we're, like, used to it. And when it doesn't happen, we're like, oh, that was kind of boring.

Like, because now that's what we're used to. No, absolutely. Like, I mean, I am a bad housewife viewer because I love Carol Radswell, who, like, you know, who was always a little bit above the fray and sometimes not doing the job. that she needed to be doing of, like, keeping the shit stirred. Yeah. But I just need to say my one big takeaway from 12 seasons of Vanderpump rules is that sandwich shop is really good.

You ate at it? Yes. Like, I, um. Katie and I'm glad it's still happening. I have yet to get over there, but I don't live nearby. That's the thing is that, like, I have gone just sort of like to celebrate the experience to many Vanderpump restaurants. And, you know, I got a fine steak and a beverage.

but I was mostly there for vibes. You got a steak sandwich. And energy. No, I'm saying at like... Oh, at the Vanderpump. So what did you get at the sandwich shop? One time I got the Nancy, but converted to a California club. So it's like sourdough bread, turkey, avocado bacon, which is like...

You can't go wrong. The sandwich I love most. And it's a very good execution of it. And then one time I got the Cameron, which is like a tying cold cuts on. Foccia. And like, I was expecting it to be a mediocre restaurant that was surviving off of the fact that it was two people from Vanderpump and that they have a good viable business, especially after how on earth did Tom and Tom fuck up Schwartz and Sandy's? Like, I don't understand with all of that free advertising. I think because they spent, I think it was a few things. The location was in a place. Yeah. Was in a place. where kids would like bar hop, which is why, you know, in West Hollywood,

where it was like, if you were traveling and you wanted to have a little fun thing, you could go to the pump, you could go to Vanderpump, you could go to TomTom's, you could go, then there's other bars right there to go to. It kills me. So roosterfish, a bar from Venice took over the pump location. And every time I see Lisa's olive trees,

and I'm like, she brought in those olive trees. It tears me apart. Okay, so I think that was part of it. think they made it like a little too high end. Yeah. And they spent too much on the decor. Yeah. And so, yeah, I think you need to have a simpler plan. Yeah. And I actually, that's why the sandwich shop does great. Yeah. Like, I think that's why it's still there and great. Have you been thinking about changing your bedding? I mean, what a better way to get into fall than to fall into the softest bed for those crisp fall nights? Watch some. good movies, listen to some juicy scoop. That is why I absolutely love Bowling Branch. And right now they have bed bundles. They create a sanctuary of comfort with layers made to the highest quality

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la la la i am reaching i wanted to reach out maybe and make up with um katy what would be your advice in this situation to the girls i don't know that i've ever seen some successfully make up with Katie, like, she seems to be, I mean, like, did Stasi manage to do it once or twice, but, like, Katie can be very much in her own emotions, and she can, you know, get dark. And that's really rough for me, where I think Lala is, like, for all of the ridiculousness of Lala, I think there is, like, a balance and a center and a sense of self. and I really respect that she's taking on the task of getting back in a good place with Katie.

I just think it's hard work and I don't know if it would ultimately be worth it. I think Katie is also a very grounded person. I think that she just, I would love to know her star sign. She's very, she holds a grudge. Right, yeah. Yes. So, all right. So do you have any more questions?

Are you going to watch the Valley? I mean, I am going to watch the Valley just because, like. So now you're not. you're going to start watching the Valley because you have two full seasons to watch. Well, I mean, realizing that, like, I'm going to start out from a place of Britney still likes Jacks at the beginning of that. Yes. hilarious.

I do find it amusing that she left that military show after a single day. I expected more from Britney. So I mentioned thinking that you would get how much money you get. It has been confirmed through multiple sources to me that you get that chunk of money, whether you stay one day or all of them. Oh, wow. Don't you think as an EP, that's a stupid plan? It's a very stupid plan.

Like, I mean, fine, I'm leaving the first day too. Yeah. You better fucking believe it. I mean, she probably just wanted to get back to it. Oh, really? And that was after I thought I praised her because she was going to clean the toilets, but I also don't blame her for leaving. Yes.

Like, I mean, it's physically, I don't care how much you've worked out. It's so hard. And as a woman, if you're not physically fit and you're doing, you know, you know, a very physical job of what they want you to do, like haul up, shit up a stairs. Oh, God. But also, this is their career. And, like, when people see you being, to some extent, a bad sport in that way, they're not going to want to let you, you know, come sing in a mask.

But, like, ultimately, okay, the last question I want to ask you is, how do you feel about Ariana's transformation? just because one of the amazing things about Vanderpump is that it takes the premise that these people want to be actors or singers and it sort of pulls it apart by saying what if we just make you famous on your own terms and a lot of people give that up and there were so many people who had singing careers in season three that did not have them later on um but ariana like once scandevall happened and she had so much sympathy love island came through chicago came through so many of these real opportunities that she had been training for.

Let us never forget. Ariana takes sketch comedy very seriously. Which I love. But I did have, like, I wondered about her, like, leaving behind the transparency. Like, she was never the most transparent. No, she wasn't. And I think, you know, there's no formula to making it work. Yes.

Because they're, you know, she didn't share a lot. She wasn't a compelling character to watch on, on Vanderpump, always pretty, didn't have, like, great one-liner moments like a Stossie or anything. Yes. And then this thing. But had the true confidence of a very pretty girl. Right. And then when this shit went down, it was so amazing to see her act in the moment of, like, screaming at her ex. Like, I don't give a fuck about her, like, she really just gained this.

like this fan base and then got these opportunities and executed them and and yeah it was the most amazing horrible thing that turned into something great and I mean I remember right when it happened she like shut down her Instagram and I was like to Lala oh my god she shouldn't do that like you know it's like every there's no there's no rules to it so I would say what I do think is hard as like, you know, lawless, I mean, Sheena said, I just had such a good time doing an episode of Lopez versus Lopez. Like, I kind of want to explore what other things I can do since I want to be an actress. However, we know that

when you're, you know, Greg Brady for five years on the Brady Bunch, it was really hard for you to get other work without people always seeing you as Greg Brady or whatever. So, yes, now that you were a like known name in the reality world, I do think it's going to be hard to get other jobs as an actor or even a host. I do. I mean, like... But I hope it works out.

I think she's very well positioned to continue doing what she's doing with Love Island. But to me... Not for her. I'm saying for other people that like, like I said Heather Dubrow is taking growling's classes and she's like, I want to get into acting again. Yeah. And I don't think that she got parts thrown to her throughout the years of doing the OC. But I'm just saying it would be weird to see her.

Like, I just feel like when a housewife's placed into something, it's kind of few and far between just because we know them as this other person. I think it's a gamble. Heather Dubrow is the exception. Heather Dubrow is a fucking pro. Okay. I agree. I agree. I agree.

But also, I just want to say, the thing that Ariana gave that was like, to me, the most interesting and transparent was that moment of, then why won't you have this conversation with me when the cameras aren't on? And that real understanding. With Tom Sandoval. With Tom Sandoval. Just sort of understanding I have a relationship. that may be fiction and like that was fiction and I didn't realize it's you know I mean it's all the Truman show I mean it's like so the Truman show and then when you see that these kids are part of it it's just it's that movie is exactly what we're living now and it was only like 20 years

ago it's so fucking good in that movie it who Laura Linney plays oh yes the mom yeah yeah it was it's an amazing movie that I think she's like the wife I think she's like his wife. Yeah. Yes. And I feel like too many people are like making their kid a Truman. Yeah. And they have never sat down to watch that movie and they probably should.

So do you, okay. I am obsessed with this Orthodox Jewish TikToker and her like five daughters. And like some people are very critical of having the daughters on the TikTok channel. Yeah. I think kids are hilarious and fun. But it is putting your kids out there. How do you feel about people using their kids on their social? and stuff. I think it's very, very hard and I don't know. I mean, I remember when I first

started my Instagram and all that when we were on Chelsea lately and I like purposely never showed the kids. Yeah. And I would talk about them on stage and stuff, but like I wouldn't like show their faces or anything. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, I guess that would have been okay. Like when I saw like other people doing it and I'm like oh I wonder if I should have like exploited the more right then you know but so I get that now it's like everybody does it but no I've talked about it length of like how dangerous can be and now especially when you're making when it's your income yes when it's your income and then you're like I you know I had this one um journalist on and there was a girl that had to do a brand deal about when she got

her period and you know and her mom did a whole video on making her a period like gift basket and then she had to talk about the pad that she likes at like 13 and when these kids say I don't want to do it then the parent will say okay I guess we have to sell the house and it's like I'm 13 yeah none of the protections that are there for a kid who's on a set you know I mean it's just like when your kid is doing gymnastics or a sport and then at like 12 they're like, I don't want to do soccer anymore. And you're like, what? But you did soccer all this time?

And they're like, yeah, I'm not intro it anymore. The same thing happens with a child dancing around at four that's acting completely into it. And then at 11, they might be like, no, mom. Like, I don't want the camera in my face. And then their opinions and privacy are no longer respected because there's a paycheck that supports the whole family. So that's why I think it's dangerous.

And same thing with the reality show. Like I have said in Real House, of Salt Lake City Mary's son has a drug addiction problem and you know they have this heart overwhelming conversation

but the kid admits yeah I used today I used today and why he's like I had a lot of me she's like why he's like I just had a lot of anxiety today and I was like

you had a lot of anxiety because your mom told you the camera people are coming at 4 o'clock don't put your kid on camera like it's stressful and then have people write about you

and talk about you and like I don't think this is good for your rehab. I liked watching intervention too. But a lot of those people didn't make it either. Like I don't know that we should be watching these people when they're in a state where they really can't give consent. Adult or not. My friends who have kids who are like 12 to 15 are in a state of constant war. And the notion of having to do that while servicing brands or Bravo just seems terrifying, you know? It's a lot. Let's get into a couple more topics and then we get back to the housewives.

Okay, this was juicy. Ben Affleck is a executive producer on Jennifer Lopez's new movie Kiss of a Spider Woman. And so they saw each other on the red carpet. And it looked like he was telling her stuff, probably how great she was in the movie. And she was smiling. and it seemed to appear to be fine. And then she, you know, was on there with her twins who are 17, the boy girl twins,

and she said, we're looking at colleges. And everyone says they look just like Mark Anthony, but the girl, if you zoom in, she has exactly Jalo's eyes. Yeah. She has exactly Jailo's eyes. Anyway, so what do you, and then she did remove that weird black thing

for the dinner. It's kind of good because it's sort of spidery. Right, right. It's very, you know, figure eight, black widowy kind of thing. Like, we have lost a lot of true glamour. And I think they're messy on again, off again, is the closest thing we have to Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton that's going on today. I also think she's capable of good performances.

Like, she gave us one truly great performance in, out of sight. And we've been waiting to see that again. And, like, if she can kill it and kiss the spider woman. Supposedly, this is going to be her thing. Like, this is getting a lot of buzz. And also, it's a musical, which means she will be nominated for a Golden Globe, which, like, sets her up nicely to maybe get an Oscar nomination. So having some buzz going on is a good thing.

I mean, Ben Affleck is ridiculous. But also, he directed Argo, you know? Like, that back tattoo does not take away the fact that he is an Academy Award. winner and a very capable filmmaker. And, like, I love them having this dance back and forth. And let's not forget, didn't he screw the nanny? Oh, did he? Allegedly, I'm believing that he had some, or there was rumors or something, that there was a

nanny during his Jennifer Gardner stint. So it's like anyone that I think gets with the help is the lowest of the low. He is a Dunkin' Donuts swilling, like, goon, but also, like... But hot as shit, in my opinion, still hot. Even with that back tattoo? Well, my favorite time was him in the town.

Oh, yes. So that's his hottest taste movie, but... The thing is, is, like, I feel like he swings back towards her, and there is this element of chaos and glamour to the two of them together. I just love, knowing that Jennifer Garner is safe, you know, posting Instagram reels of recipes from her kitchen, like, makes me happy.

But, like, I'm glad that this is going on. And even if they're just doing it for the camera is good and you never know where it could go. Yeah. So they said that then he, like, left. And then she got to have her fun at the after party and having people come up to her and, um, yeah. She'll never be a stateswoman.

Like, she, like. A stateswoman? What do you mean? Just sort of like a big day. deal above the fray, the way that some of these people who are like big star, Gwyneth Paltrow, you know, like Jennifer Lopez will never get into a safe relationship with a television producer and have her brands and dress an elegant white. She will dress in elegant white while she is doing somewhat goofy and sometimes amazing things.

like I think she didn't realize that she could be above at all and I think that she is a workaholic and I think she said yes to too many things along the way yes um too many brands she became you know like when all these people become like an influencer like the rest of us I'm like you shouldn't have to do that like you you're J-Lo and that's where I think this is if she can stick to like doing cool stuff like this as she enters the next phase of life and kind of stays above it and knows like

I don't have to do all these things like she was going to do products with like a rod at one point yeah she what are you thinking girl she likes being famous more than she likes any of the things that she is very good at doing and that's rough maybe so maybe that's what it is I mean I love her style and her look like more than anybody she's gorgeous and so talented all right let's talk a week. I just want to get your opinion now that it's been a week since the, you know, Saudi Arabian comedy festival that got a lot of talk. Many comedians went. Some defended themselves. Jessica Kirshan, who really popped, if she's been a working comic for a long time, she came on my show once. But she really popped when she was doing a lot of, stage work that went viral. Yeah. And she is a lesbian.

She is a mother. And she went and she came back and did a lengthy apology to her fans. And she said she would be donating her entire amount that she made to a civil rights or like a human rights organization. So I wanted to just fill in that part. Well, the first thing is, is like, I take weekly French lessons on Wednesday. You do? Yes. Bonjour.

And I, a couple of weeks ago, like, brought this up to my French instructor as, like, a thing that we could talk about. And just the question of, like, you know, would I go to a country that kills gay people and where it, I believe, illegal to be Jewish in exchange for $350,000, what Tim Dillon was getting? And he was just like, you would. He was just like. The French guy was. Yeah. He was just like, you would. And the thing is, is like, it's a lot of money, and, you know, Chris Rock was making a lot more than $350,000, said they paid me enough to look the other.

Was it Chris Rock who said that? Somebody said they paid me enough to look the other way. No, no, I'm sorry. It was Dave Chappelle who said that. Okay. And because I think Chris Rock has more conviction than that. And also, for some of these people, it's like. Some people thought it was just talking about Dave Chappelle, is that remember when he turned down.

allegedly $50 million to continue his Comedy Central show because he felt you know he wasn't getting he wasn't getting what he was getting I don't know but people change people change that was like 25 years ago

maybe he just does maybe he's not the same person he was 25 years ago he feels so aggrieved by people like telling him you don't need to constantly be saying mean things about trans people that they like it's so weird that it are so many of these people are the ones who are like

Oh, there's no free speech in America because I can't call people the F slur any time I want to. And it's like you're going to a country where criticism of the government can get you beheaded. Like you're going to a country. Like, I just think personally, I think I shouldn't probably vacation in any country where people are like going to jail or getting killed for being gay. And that's hard because that's still a lot of countries. And, you know, I don't want to go. go somewhere, and I know that it won't happen to me, but I am only protected by my American passports, and I need to, like, acknowledge the fact that this is a real problem and struggle

in these places and not just breeze around on the fact that I am white and from America. So do you think, so do you, how, what's your prediction for this? Is it going to happen next year? Are there going to, is it going to be, you know, even a bigger festival, even more people doing it? I don't think. What's your prediction? I don't think it will benefit or help them out as much as, like, Cutter having, was it? Cutter, yeah, Qatar had the World Cup. Like, they're doing all of these things to sort of like change the vibe on these countries. And we need, one thing you need to remember about most of these Gulf countries is that the majority of people who live there aren't citizens. The majority, like, in the UAE, I think like 90% of the population are guest workers who don't have any rights. And then a small. portion of the population who are citizens who still aren't voting, but have at least the rights of citizenship. And I think they're trying to distract. They're using these things like the World Cup or this festival to sort of like make people

not focus on the civil rights and human rights issues that are going on. I don't think it will benefit Saudi Arabia that much. I think they'll, you know, I think music and soccer works better. I mean, a lot of, yeah, a lot of musicians have gone. or done private parties for an enormous amount of money or whatever. But, yeah, I saw the whole controversy with it. I didn't want to, like, be anybody that, like, pointing a finger at, like, other comedians and how they, like, make their decisions in their life.

And God knows I have pointed a finger at comedians in past. Yeah. Like, I do think that this is bad, but also, I mean, if someone said to you, half a million dollars for a week, and but you would be going to a country where bad things happen. I mean, honestly, I can honestly say I don't know that I'd say yes. Yeah. I mean, because I don't want for anything really, honestly. I'm in a good place.

So I do feel like they're, you know, I just would have to, but what would probably would have convinced me is my rep being like and all these other people are going and you're going to be traveling with your friends and like almost like there's there is safety in numbers you're not the only one that's stepping out of the box and doing something and that's why I think so many of them did it but there's also it was a bunch of dudes it was a bunch of dudes and it was like the thing that was noteworthy about jessica carson is that she was a woman and queer and jewish and the thing is is like both of you and i have to understand that going to a country that like very notably is terrible to women and gay guys impacts our audience, you know? And like, is

like you, you know, like, you could like alienate the people, the voices that you're trying to, like, elevate and speak to by doing something like that. I think also what Jessica said was, I thought I was going to, you know, I thought by going, I'm showing people that a woman can live and think like me and all these things. And also these people. And also these People are living there and they deserve to be entertained and have live comedy. Like, I'm saying, I think there was a lot of thought where everybody's doing it, go. And then once they were committed to doing it, then they had to like sit with their team and be like, okay, either I'm never going to respond to this. And I'm just going to be funny and they'll be on to something else or some conspiracy theory or something to yell about on their keyboards a week from now.

or I am going to do like what Jessica did and actually go, okay, I probably, I shouldn't have done this. Yeah. And I'm going to make good because I appreciate my million Instagram followers and I appreciate where I was, like from five years ago to where she is today,

she's like, I'm done amazing. Well, the other thing is, is like most stand-up comedians could not find Saudi Arabia on a map, let alone tell you what the political system is there or what's going on. Pete Davidson is not thinking. about human rights issues in Saudi Arabia.

I don't say that to excuse him. I just say I understand that timeline makes sense to me of it not being until someone explained it to them that they thought about it. But I also think there were a lot of people who have been quote unquote canceled who were going to it. And I think they are people with chips on their shoulder. Canceled prior, you mean. Canceled prior. Louis C.K.

And like Aziz Ansari was not like, he didn't do some. he Aziz I'm sorry was on the scale of being a bad horrible douche yes he was a bad date yeah Harvey out Weinstein

at the top Louis in the middle like Aziz to my yeah he was he had bad bedside manner he like got his BJ and like wasn't nice to the girl after whatever I mean but that whole thing but it did it affected his career

at that time yeah he was on a rise and it took a big dip. Yes. And I mean, I don't say this to excuse, none of this excuses them at all. I would like to hope that I would have the strength not to do it. Yeah. But it's very easy to be a whore. You know, it's very easy to like, yeah. I mean, the only time that I had anything like this was there was a Catholic college in Erie, Pennsylvania that asked me to come. And I was one of the first gay comics who got booked at Catholic colleges. Because Loyola and University of San Francisco booked me and then other places would, but this school asked me to not say anything supportive

of gay marriage. And so the question was like, do I go there and I break the rules? Do I go there and play ball or do I not go there? And I chose to not go there. What would have been cool is if one of these guys who rants about free speech all the time had gone there and questioned the monarchy of Saudi Arabia. that you could be in danger exactly so why do it then so don't go then either you're going to not go or you're going to go and play by the rules and come home safe and maybe never do it again but like yeah

you're not going to fuck around with something scary but i thought that they were big bold strong men who challenge ideas you know well that's the hypocrisy of it all and that's what i'm like listen the 95% of hollywood will do hypocritical things in their career yes that's that and And so you shouldn't put them at a higher standard in any way, especially a comedian. I kind of wonder the few comedians that did point fingers and really go after them, Mark Merritt. I loved the Otico put out there what the actual restrictions on speech were. And I think she's strong and super successful. But I wonder if, like, now, and I think that she did the right thing.

but my thing is like, yeah, people may not want to fuck with her in a good or a bad way. They might just be so embarrassed that they're like, let's say one of those guys has a show coming up a sitcom in the next year and a half. And they're like, oh, and then we should have a, you know, like a crazy assistant. Yes. And someone brings her name up. And they're like, um, maybe not. And they won't say why, but it's just because they know that she was in the right and they're a little embarrassed about this.

And so I'm saying that's why her bravery should even be more commended. Yes. Because when you do speak about other people, whether the producers or other comedians, people will maybe not want to work with you. Yeah. And so. But it is also neat how the industry has changed that like Atska Oka is doing fine. Like she makes her own business much in the way that you do. And like.

Still, but an opportunity, it only takes one person to say no. And I'm just saying there might be things that she'll never even be able. that she was up for because that person is like I just I am too embarrassed to to look this girl in the eye you know and so that's the thing I think people don't

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Okay. Now let's talk about Nicole Kidman. So she got new bangs. This is just a wig, people. Like she wears wings all the time. Yeah. But they said the bangs, I mean, she's gorgeous. Yes.

She's going through a divorce with Keith Urban. And they compared it, page six, compared it to the revenge dress of Princess Die that people always talk. talk about. What do you think about this divorce and her bangs? Are Bangs a good idea? Like, I mean, she's Nicole Kidman. She can pull off anything. Perfect. You know, I mean, she looks great there. There are sometimes women, I think, who are using bangs defensively to hide and shroud certain things. I don't think she is doing that at all. I am just so excited for Nicole Kidman. Will this be her third marriage, fourth marriage? I want to say maybe there was like a

short marriage before Tom and then there was this one but listen I wanted to have a pallet cleanser marriage to just like responsible friends gynecologist or like maybe an agent but I don't even think I don't even think an agent I would like her to have did you watch the documentary about Rita Moreno no it's so good okay and she talks about being in love with marlin brando and getting pregnant by him and him making her terminate the pregnancy it's so juicy. But she basically is like, and then I married a doctor and I stayed with him for 30 years until his death. Was I ever really in love with him? I don't know. Um, like, I may be like misphrasing it. But still, I would love Nicole Kidman to have that like nice supportive, you know,

either a Samaheik style billionaire who just will take care of her forever like Padma had or just like the nice doctor who will just be there and be supportive of her for the next. seven years. I don't think she's going to ever get married again. I don't think she needs to. And she'll have like a young hot guy. And she'll have her fun and she'll keep doing her movies. Would you like to hear my hilarious joke on this, Tom?

Yes. Do you think this will inspire her to reconnect with her children from Tom Cruise? No. Yes. I mean, it's the way that she behaves as though the children don't exist is hilarious. Well, what I have read in the past is that she tried very hard to have a relationship with them. And because they were adopted to. Yeah.

And there was always some weirdness because I believe she did carry her daughters with him. Uh-huh. So it was always kind of like whose issue was it of why they went the adoption route. Yeah. And, you know, I feel like in escaping Scientology, that was just all part of it. And I think it was very probably sad for her. but at the same time, I know people maybe don't want to hear this,

but I think maybe because they weren't her biological children and then she moved on, just like a man, how many times in the history of the world, has a man gotten divorced and moved on and the first family is like, and then we never saw them again, and he had a whole new family.

And he just moved on and, like, had other kids. So it's like, I think the fact that she didn't carry those children and it was just so, like, scary and icky. And then, but I do believe she had tried And then they, because they were part of Scientologists, she was seen as a suppressive person. Yeah. And they did not see her. And I want to say there might have been an article recently in the last couple of years where maybe she did, like, meet with the daughter or something.

Yeah. What do you think she wants at this point in time? She's got her Oscar. Like, I think she just is like, yeah, I don't think she wants him anymore, especially if he's moved on to somebody else. Yeah. And I think that she loves to work. And, like, yeah, she's just going to keep wearing wigs and being a rich character. And a character is a rich lady. Doing limited series where somebody gets murdered. Yeah. And just, and always rich and always wearing like a really nice cashmere sweater and being cold.

And just, oh, loving it. Yeah, that's what we got for her. This is a story that I'm always obsessed with. So Selena Gomez got married. Uh-huh. And she had a kidney donor many years ago named Francia Reza. And at the time, they were best friends. Uh-huh.

And I, years ago, saw that she taught was on the cover of magazine Selena Gomez saying, this is my best friend. Yeah. And I went on Juicy Scoop, and I was like, what about the best friend that gave you the kidney? I got all the Selena Gomez bots coming after me, you know, and it did kind of keep me from talking about it again, but now I don't care. And anyway, Selena had her wedding. It was, you know, it wasn't a 12-person wedding. It was a significant wedding. The kidney donor was not invited.

And she said something recently like, you know, oh, I'm sure she's very happy. She's a billionaire. She got married. She's fine. I'm happy I could save her life. Yeah. Which, I mean, I don't, listen, I think it is a weird position to be in when you get a, kidney from your best friend and then you don't you're not in touch and you don't really want her

at your wedding and I think you didn't want her at your wedding for a number of reasons one you haven't been that good of a friend since you got the kidney yeah two she one time made a statement that she didn't appreciate selina gomez smoking with her kidney and then third is she doesn't want to probably remind people at the wedding that at one time she was sick enough that she needed a kidney that aspect of selina gomez's story is really incredible and amazing that you had somebody having this ridiculously amazing career from such an early age while going through this very severe medical situation. The little girl from modern family also, like, you know, it's like, how do you manage all of that? It's pretty crazy.

And like, I understand life moving along, you know? It is hard, but I have to imagine, like, look, if you're a kidney donor girl, you know, If you're ever in a real scrape, you are allowed to call Selena Gomez and ask her for a big favor because Selena Gomez cannot have there be news articles about how she is ungrateful to the girl who saved her life. Do you think there was a big payment or there's payment like on occasion? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was. I wouldn't be surprised if there was. And, like, you're, I don't know, you should always be grateful for something like that, but I also understand life moving along. I guess when you do these things, you go through like a psychological testing. Yeah.

Where they very much are like, you don't have a hold on this person for the rest of your life or whatever, you know. That's why it's, you know, always so beautiful when, like, you know, someone's child, unfortunately, dies and they donate their body parts. Yes. And then the mom gets to like hug this other woman's son. Yes. Who has the heart. Yes. That's different because your child has passed.

Right. This is very weird. I always remember George Lopez, his wife of many years gave him the kidney. And then he divorced her. I mean, that's way worse than not inviting her to your wedding, you know? I don't know. I mean, short of my children, I think it would be a very hard thing for me to, I would have to really, look at this and say

there's a good chance I'm going to open my Instagram and see you and my five best friends and my kidney on a yacht and I wasn't invited I would have to tell myself that and then what if somebody else needs my kidney too bad I already gave it to the girl

on the yacht that didn't invite me to her party you have to think about these things it's real yes yeah like yeah friendships don't last forever But if I was Selena, I know it's your biggest day, I would, I think I would have extended the invitation and let her decline. And then she could have said, I was invited. I was out of town. Like, sometimes you just want, I always think about things of like, I always, I have a saying, you know, like, what would Jesus do? I won what would Chris Jenner do? And I believe Chris Jenner wants to walk around this earth where if someone says something like, oh, have you talked to Chris Jenner lately? could say no but last time i text her she sent back three dancing lady emojis and a heart and

and you then you you cannot say a bad thing so it's like i if i was her i would have been i would have done it and just if she came she came and if she did a lot of tables at a wedding you know just like put her off at one of put her with cousins yeah and she's not like that recognizable i know she was an actress too but it's not like she's that recognizable a face like a taylor swift yeah who like gave a speech and stuff. So I don't know, but maybe there was more history or it's just I don't have to invite her. I give her, you know, a million dollars a year. Yeah. And that's our agreement. And she doesn't talk shit about me and she also doesn't come to my wedding. And we'll never know. I mean, I hope that's the case. I mean, then I think that'd be, I think that she'd be

like, good, I don't want to go to your fucking wedding. Just don't have your payment late. Well, this is very sad. So Denise Richards, as you know, is divorcing her second. husband, Aaron, and he is a nightmare. And a lot has come out. They were actually in court because she got a temporary restraining order in July. And she is in court testifying to get a permanent one, which would be for five years from him. And she is claiming severe physical abuse. And his cousin testified on her behalf saying that she did witness such things. where it's like, you know, hitting her in the head, all these things she was getting a, um, redoing her breasts or whatever. And while she was recovering in the hospital room, he got physical with her then.

There's, you know, black eyes. There's many occasions, like choking many occasions that she's testifying to. He is saying it's all not true and that he's going to bring Brandy Glanville on and Charlie Sheen to prove his point that she makes. up stories and lies because when he said while he was walking to court, he goes, I walked into our laundry room and saw Brandy Glanville and Denise Richards fooling around. And on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Brandy said, we had a rendezvous in Canada while she was filming a movie. And I thought they had an open marriage and she told me if Aaron ever found out he'd kill me. Well, that to me Makes me believe Denise.

And also, if he saw them hooking up five years ago and he was so angry and against it, why did he stay married for another five years? Why didn't he like end the marriage then? Because he depended on her financially and he was denied spousal support. He was asking for $150,000 right now.

He said, I need $150,000 from our joint accounts that she has cut him out of or whatever. Maybe they weren't joint accounts. And that money that she has is just from, is mostly from her divorce from her divorce from Charlie, right? She's very successful Only fans and she does a lot of TV and brand deals.

Okay. And so yeah. So he did not get the support. I don't, as of yet, I don't know if the judge has granted the permanent restraining order. I would think that she would get it. She's trying to get him

and his family of his parents and his brother finally moved out of her property or the one that she was on the lease for. it is a nightmare and then Charlie Sheen who when they got divorced in her divorce papers it was abuse yeah and they even touch on it I think um though she was supportive in his doc about it so anyway he was doing an interview with um with um who's the guy from california cape david de covenny had some live show and he was interviewing um him charlie and he goes do you have he regrets and he's like tattoos i wish i hadn't gotten all these tattoos not you know

who you were with or how you were as a parent or a son or a co-star or or who you may have contracted HIV from or gave or whatever that allegedly is there's just tattoos i mean he's a Kook. Like, expecting him to have any perspective on his own life is ridiculous. You know, like, Denise is a big personality. It's why she's so good on the show. Like, she's almost too honest for a real housewife show. Like, her not suffering of bullshit is amazing. Like, somebody, like, being, like, withholding about information about a same-sex, relationship that they had while they were married to somebody else, we've all seen hunting wives, you know, like that's...

But I truly believe the only reason that she was like that was because of him. Because I think, you know, she's a sex symbol and, you know, she was married to Charlie Sheen, like, I don't think it would have, I really think she was terrified. I mean, there was a scene where she's like, remember we're miced and he goes, I'm going to squeeze your hand so fucking hard. Like, there's literally, and I think then she says, I mean, she told me because I saw her and she's so sweet

and she's so grateful of all the support that she's gotten. Yeah. And she's like, I, my divorce from Charlie was so awful

that I was like, well, I'll never get divorced again. And that's another reason why she stayed. Also, it's so embarrassing and you're stuck in this thing and I just,

I just feel so badly for her. And he's like, in my opinion, a grifter. Like he was you know with Nicolette Chardon before at one point he was with this famous soap actresses from young wrestlers prior to Nicolette

Sheridan or in between. He was just going up and down you know Malibu looking for like rich women he is the worst. Yeah no I mean that's terrible and also once you have opened up your life just by being Denise Richards and then being on a real housewife show

you understand that separating from somebody is going to involve all of this stuff coming out and people you know people in comments are cruel and people feel so comfortable questioning fundamental things like when you say he hit me yeah i mean it's it's it's hard so um okay i just want to remind everybody uh november 14th i'll be at bravocon weekend at the mjim grand also so you need to go get your tickets hathomintan dot net that's also where you joined Patreon. We're almost sold out.

Can I plug? Yes. What are you got? October 20th, I will be at Club Fugazi in San Francisco at the Throckmorton on the 21st in Mill Valley. And then in Portland on the 23rd and Seattle at the Hereafter on the 24th. All of that is on all of my social links on all of my socials and on Guy Brannum.com. It's me doing my solo. We're not done with my show yet.

It's not. It's me doing my solo show. but I'm plugging. I'm plugging. But you could plug in the middle. Okay, sorry. So, no, it's all good. I just, I happen to have come, but I'm glad. I'm just letting people know, don't turn us off because we got more to talk about. Real Housewives of Miami star Alexia Napola's ex-husband Todd has filed a $10 million defamation lawsuit against Bravo. He did a long 10-minute video talking to the camera like

two months ago saying how furious he was of how he was portrayed and, that he feels they portrayed him like he was going broke when he wasn't just because he rented a luxury apartment and didn't own it. And there were narratives that were untrue that the other cast members were saying. And therefore, his reputation has been suffered to the tune of $11 million because it's like $10 million is for one thing and $1 million is for another. And what do you think of a lawsuit like this? It's really interesting because saying someone is bad. at their job is one of the like legally one of the four things that is severe like saying that

they have a venereal disease or saying that they have committed a crime is one of the things that's I think called slander per se it makes it sort of like a more severe kind of defamation um but the question of what is opinion and what is a declaration of fact on a reality show is so weird because like if a reality show shows you a person um saying a fact about someone else, are they republishing what that person is saying? Are they endorsing it? Or are they just showing it to you as their opinion? Because you can't sue someone for defamation about an opinion, but you can sue them about an assertion of fact. And like, it used to be when like only newspapers and stuff like were carrying stuff like this, they would be really

cautious about repeating something that was someone's assertion of a fact about something like this but like as someone who watched every episode i did not walk away thinking todd is a bad business man but and also i'm like if that so i don't know i think you'll have a hard time proving that like yeah that his business really suffered but maybe he will say that but i'm just i didn't think that i just thought he didn't like being on camera and that's why they got divorced and she was still in love with him i thought he seemed like a fine stepdad i i was less like i don't know think what's interesting is like the no fan of bravo is going to some suddenly have sympathy for the ex-husband of a housewife because he's a man yeah and also anything that could take

bravo away from us right we are not going to be for that lawsuit but the thing is he's not going to win i think he'll probably he's hoping that they settle with him just to avoid the lawyer costs that it would take to actually you know this will not go to trial i don't think they will because the reality reckoning didn't go anywhere. There hasn't meant any settlement. There's another woman suing for $20 million. There's several lawsuits against Bravo. And I would think if they start to settle with one, then they're settling with that.

So they have to like stand high, like, you know, and be like, no, you sign these releases. That's that. Yeah. I mean, well, and the interesting status of the like husbands is because you're like, you are signing releases, but you're not getting paid for it your wife is or whatever like it is interesting but they still sign the releases yeah yeah well anyway now they're divorced and some people wonder will this hurt her chances of coming back yeah do you think it will do you think he's doing this i don't think so but do you think it will hurt her chances of coming back could he be doing this just as a revenge thing against

her i mean that would really suck i wonder if she could then sue him for that but like that would really suck if they just want to get rid of her so that no one's reminded of this and that no one's slipping because how how what are you supposed to do then go on set and just know and her whole life is like this horrible thing that's happening with her ex-husband and and people are not supposed to mention it but you're supposed to be a girlfriend in a real life scene like of course you're going to be like oh my god todd's a dick like he's the worst and the lawyers would be telling them like well you can't talk about him all this thing is going on yeah um he is like it's always interesting to me when you have ex-husbands who are like exerting control over

what can be shown or how much can be shown like when you have yeah and she's yeah she said that she goes you know it was so he was just awful all the time like before the last reunion um you know she right right as she was about to like walk on he was like you know hadn't talked to her for two days putting her in a work in an awful state being totally unsupportive of it I mean that's really awful too like it's stressful and that you have to go and fight and like do all this awful stuff and then to just also have your husband like you better not say this or that or they better not say this about me and you're just like I mean talk about the ultimate of walking on eggshells like what a nightmare

um also Netflix there's a $15 million lawsuit from the um for the movie uh inventing Anna the girl that was basically based on her story who was the friend who got stuck with the $70,000 credit card bill when they went to Morocco. Yeah. She is suing saying, you use my name, my likeness, and everything. And I don't like the way I was portrayed because you portrayed me as like greedy and which isn't true. And so she's suing. Now, how does that work?

I mean, like, it's, I don't think she has much of a case. Like, basically you're there saying it's false light. So she's not actively saying that, like, there was any clear defamation. Like, false light just means you represented me as being not like I am, even though there was nothing directly false. And it's like, this is true events, like, they're pretty open about the fact that it is inspired by true events and not a direct sort of attempt at, like, documentary reconstruction. of what happens. It seems really hard. I mean, it must be hard to see people making money off of something that you're involved in that you didn't make money off of.

Yeah. But also, you were in newsworthy events, you know? Right, exactly. Like, yeah. I mean, I, um, there's a, there's a movie out right now called Swiped, which is about the owner and creator of Bumble. Uh-huh. And she didn't have anything to do with that movie. Right.

And, I mean, it's fine. I mean, I think I have to watch it, but I mean, I think she comes off really great. It's her story, but the story was out there, just like someone could do three. Mark Zuckerberg didn't make any money off of the social network. People could do three stories, three versions of Long Island Lolita. Yes. You know what I mean? And three different people played her.

I mean, that's just people are going to be, there's going to be multiple movies about Karen Reed that she might not have a dollar from. So, I mean, I think that's what it, but you know what I want to ask you? Yes. I always wonder. So this movie came out. you know, two years ago, why does it take like two years to then do the lawsuit? Are you shopping around for lawyers? Does it take that long to get it together? Or is it like after a year and a half you're like, you know what, that's still pissing me off? I am going to sue. I think it's some degree

of that. But it also is just the statute of limitations tolling. So within two to three years, the statute of limitations would toll where if you did not, you know. But why not jump on it two years ago then when it was like hot and in the news um she probably didn't get pissed off for a while i would have to imagine i also think like finding lawyers and like i mean were they trying to sort of like back channel for some money before this i don't know like oh it's asking for money and then they didn't give them money and then they have to yes but i mean it's not as though she's like that directly aggrieved by you know it was like oh they made me seem not great you know Yeah. Okay.

No, first we have to talk about my legal issue. Oh, yes. Let's talk about your legal issue. Because it is a juicy scoop angle. This all just comes down to, I got on a, like, normally I fly business class, but, you know, there haven't been as many TV jobs. And this summer, I wanted to do, like, three things in a row. And I was like, I can do one of these things if I fly business class or I can, like, fly Comfort Plus and do all of them. And I went to my friend Torrey's wedding, and as I was flying back, it was a full flight, and I had been placed in a middle seat. Usually I try to get a window seat because I'm a big guy, and I'm trying to stay out of people's way. But I was in a middle seat, and there was, like, an old guy who came down and, like, first he, like, hit a woman's hand because she was placing a bag in the overhead compartment near where he was going to sit. and he had decided that that was his territory, and she wasn't allowed to do that.

So they had like a full altercation beforehand, and then he sat down, and he was like, could you scoot over? And I was like, I can't. You know, I was there. I was in between the two armrests. I had buckled my seatbelt without a belt extender. I was fine. And he was like, can you scoot over?

And he was like, actually, I can't. And then he just like leaned over and elbowed me as hard as he could. and I told the flight attendants and he got mad and he was a million miler and so he like I believe was texting someone from Delta and then like a Delta's customer service agent showed up and they started you know evaluating the situation as oh this person has to sit next to you a fat person

and in no way like they pulled him aside and they talked to him but they in no way were like, so someone hit you, what happened? And when the, all they did was because I had taken a video of it, I posted it on Instagram, but all that the official Delta representative did was ask me if I would delete the video. And like at that moment, the people around me, like there were a gay couple behind me and like a woman across the aisle who just sort of like popped up and were like, no, that guy hit him. he hit another woman he is the problem and like they just moved him to the other side of the aisle and had him switch and like gave a woman miles because she had to sit next to me she was very very lovely because I was you know crying into my eye mask just sort of like humiliated and

uncomfortable with the whole situation but like after like later one of the flight attendants came up and like showed me a message on their phone that was like we asked to have this guy removed from the flight and we told her that he had hit you and um he was the problem and she overruled us and as i was leaving that member of the flight crew was like you have to talk about this next time you're on juicy scoop and the two things that like in a moment love shout out to the flight attendant from delta that's a juicy scooper like the the two things were like after i like pulled my eye mask off and realizing the of the people who had like hopped up to defend me like of the six four of them were watching the devil wears prada and have

Having a person say, like, I am a juicy scooper, I was here for you. It was just a moment of realizing, like, women and queer people and people who didn't always have full access to our voices, so many cultural things have reminded us that we do have the right to push back and, you know, not be hit. And it is very frustrating to me that so much of the discourse around this is like, oh, that guy's too fat. He needs to buy two seats. The thing is, a lot of people don't realize that if you buy two seats on a full flight, they'll still just give it away. Um, like there's not a good system for handling fat people on flights and just having it be waiting until somebody decides to point at me and call me fat to try to deal with it is not good. But also, you shouldn't fucking hit people, you know, and that's just beyond shocking.

Like I just am like, wow. Yeah. Like what, what, people are losing your minds. Like, you're on up, suck it up. Travel is hard for everybody. Like, and yeah, babies cry. And, I mean, love to the moms that they're like, I make, you know, treats for everybody to say, my, no, like, just fucking deal with it. Yes. Bring your earplugs. Bring your eye mask, whatever it is. But, like, that's life. Like, what is people, it's disgusting.

I mean, he was, I think he had had a couple of drinks. And he was a million miler who I believe was pissed off that he had not gotten upgraded further than comfort plus. And, like, sure. But, like, he walked in there ready to be in a fight. Wow. Yeah. And it was just really upsetting that, you know, like, once I landed in L.A. and reported it to the gate agent that dealt to people like, they were supposed to just get the police there.

Why did they not get the police there? And, you know, it was really frustrating. Wow. Well, I'm glad that you shared your story. Anything you want to say about Real Housewives of Salt Lake, because that was on last night, I made you watch. So I've just been starting season. and like I worried that Meredith was queen like she seemed to not be in the episode that much she like did her own thing with her caviar place and then was in a conversation at the end and

I was happy when I saw the conversation at the end because I was worried that she was trying to queen be and be above the fray and is that an issue and a problem or no does does meredith still do her job oh yeah Meredith is great she just hasn't been featured as much because it's all about Lisa Barlow and her businesses I mean Lisa is an icon And I just, that that show is such a forum for cowboy hats and turtlenecks, thrills me. Really? And they all are great looking. But listen, Bravo Snarkside actually screen grabbed the text that went between Lisa Barlow and Angie.

And Lisa Barlow went after Angie because Angie has many salons, three which she owns, and the other seven she is franchised out. and she at Lisa Barler was somehow like trying to to pinpoint whatever they're all in they're all pointing figures at each other as being like not as rich and not having as many businesses and so then she's like I supported your you know your son's hair whatever gel and um it's in my it's in my salons but no one's buying it so so then so then an assistant comes to go pick it up and she goes the sea list product and then she goes the sea list product and then And then they start going back on the text messages, where then Lisa texted her and said, 600 Venmo sent, I can send my cleaners to help you too because she said, it's their collecting dust. And then Angie said, you should probably have sent the $600 to other people that are claiming that you owe them money. I didn't say you owed me any money and my salon is not dusty. And then Lisa said, well, at least I don't have to borrow money to take vacu- wait, let me do it, Lisa's voice. well at least i don't have to borrow money to take vacations and pay it back after using a card i should

have been wait i should have been of something been able it got cut off but then i'm sure and you went back and was like isn't someone accusing you of owing money on an amics card it went back and forth and it's like it's it's pretty fun it's darky but it's kind of like yeah i mean it's it's like mutually assured destruction. I'm like, wouldn't it benefit these ladies not to do these things? But I guess that's what the show is. I have a question, though, the woman who is married to the coach, the party planner, is she still on the show? She's in jail. Oh, no, I didn't realize. Jen Shaw, interesting that you asked that. Jen Shaw, this is from Sutton Stroller. Catherine Dennis is from Real House, is from Southern Charm. She's been off the show for a long time.

She struggled with drugs and alcohol. She just got a DUI. So she was 25. days in prison. Jen Shaw has 326 days left, but I- What is she in jail for? Oh, stealing money from old people and doing a whole scheme where they would trick elderly people into thinking that they could have a viable business. Oh, wow. And then telling them they needed more and more and more money and then keeping all that money for herself. Amazing. She's with one drop girl. Elizabeth Holmes, they're in prison together, hanging out. And, but I just heard from a very good source that she could be getting out extremely soon. And I'm sure that she will be asked right back to be on the housewives.

Peter Thompson has 410 days left. He was the husband of Cynthia Bailey on Real Housewives of Atlanta. And then Tom Gerardy has 2,566 days left. To the extent that there's still a Tom there. Yeah. Oh, my God. Well, this has been so fun. Again, let's remind everybody to follow Guy Brannum.

He is really becoming a TikTok and Instagram sensation. He has his great show with many dates, and they can go get that again. Yes, guybranum.com or at Guy Brannum on Instagram and at Guy Brannum comedy on TikTok. Yeah, all of all the info is there. And what a delight. And thank you for sharing your awful airline personal story with us. and giving all your insights so fun. But thank you for creating an army of people who are out there to, you know, be full of the light and love that you foster in this community.

I love it and I love my juicy scrupers and they really are the best part about what I do because they are like-minded, lovely, intelligent, caring people and funny because they like funny people. Yeah. Thank you. Bye.