Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Serial Killer Arrested, Hollywood Focus Groups with Chris Franjola
Episode Date: July 18, 2023Erika Jayne meets with Tom Girardi’s victims. Real Housewives of Potomac got in an all-out brawl while filming. RHONY premiered! Kim wants Kroy to get a job, and Mauricio is thirsty. On RHOC, accord...ing to Tamra Judge herself, she really is still the hottest housewife at least at Cut Fitness. Then Chris Franjola joins me! Is Ariana Grande getting divorced? The Senior Bachelor has been announced. The Long Island Serial Killer suspect has been arrested. A woman who found a toddler, who then went missing, but now she has been found alive. And Just Like That featured a focus group and I have never had more in common than Che Diaz. Enjoy the Juicy Scoop! Vote For Juicy Scoop: realitytelevisionawards.com/vote Get extra juice on Patreon: patreon.com/juicyscoop Subscribe on Youtube: youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Follow me on Instagram: instagram.com/heathermcdonald Follow me on TikTok: tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Follow Chris @chrisfranjola Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop.
Oh, what a weekend in the Juicy scoop world.
I'm going to get into everything that's happening
in Housewives first.
And then we've got your favorite, your real favorite,
Chris Fendjolay is going to be here. And oh my God, the topics that we
have to discuss with him, you don't want to miss. But first, let me
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All right, first, this happened yesterday
at the village in Sherman Oaks.
Friend, I think she's been on Justice Group four or five times,
Kimberly Archie, who used to work for Tom Gerardi,
who is best friends with the Rigomez family
in which their child son was a, was the
burn victim who got completely screwed over by Tom Gerardi not giving him his
11 million that he won from the gas company that blew up his home. Okay so Kim
really Archie also sadly has a son who passed away and she created an ice cream in his name and so she was having
an ice cream event to launch Paul's ice cream, which is the ice cream that she's doing.
And so there was some word I talked to her last night that maybe Erica Jane might come.
She really didn't know. They've been, their attorneys have been talking.
And Erica did come yesterday afternoon.
And page six was there to report on it.
And they went into a private room, the LA Times, which
has been responsible for the big LA Times article that
sat in red from beginning to end.
Nobody else knew how to read the LA Times at Ornore. Did they want to pay a dollar for the online subscription? So they were there.
They're going to do, I think, another obviously story on it. They're following it. Maybe
another documentary. I'm not sure. So they were there in the room. And it went on for an hour
and a half between Erica Jane and several of the victims of Tom Gerardi, in which
he represented him, won the money, and then they never saw the money in a nutshell.
And there was always questions of how much Erica knew.
Erica's been pulled into lawsuits.
So I think it's really great that she came.
I always said, you know, I think that she, in some ways, got some really bad advice in
the beginning of this case of, you know, I think that she in some ways got some really bad advice in the beginning
of this case of, you know, I think she was blindsided about what happened, but that's
what she should have said.
Right from the start, she should have said, I feel terrible for these former clients now
victims of my husband.
I feel blindsided.
I don't know who the hell I was married to, but instead we saw her on the show being
very closed off because I think attorneys kind
of like don't say anything, don't say this, say alleged victims and that just did not
bowed well for her.
But now she's, thin as can be, she's got her tour in Las Vegas and she is acting like
a normal, nice person that I think that she can be.
Now that she's kind of come out from under it, and she wants to help these victims anyway she can, that is what I've heard.
So hopefully there will be some resolve.
Hopefully these people will get their money, and you know, she's, this was a great move
for her, and I believe it was genuine.
She stayed several hours, and people enjoyed the ice cream.
Okay, I watched the Real Housewives of New York the new cast.
There were people in the Bravo world that was like, no, we don't like that you got rid
of the entire Real Housewives of New York cast that we've loved, the Ramona, Sonia,
Luana, D'Arenda, Jilsert. What with these new people? What? Okay, I think it was a great idea.
I think it was great.
It's being very well received on my Facebook group, GC scoop obsessed.
Many people are saying like, wow, maybe we need to do this with a lot of the older franchises.
Again, I never, I never want to see any of these women lose their jobs, but I do like adding, picking the best cities because those cities are dynamic. The backdrop of New York is
a character in itself. I love watching movies and TVs in which TV shows in which they're filmed
in New York. And so we get to see that with this. The girls are stylish. It makes me want to dress
better. They're wearing black and they're chic.
And it's like there's this genaline
that everyone talks about.
And she is in out lesbian.
She is a mother and she is chic.
And she's 54.
But the rest of the cast appears
to be early 40s at the oldest.
And some of them have kids.
One girl is like single. It seems like they
really do like each other. And I think we're gonna see a season of not a lot of drama, but like a
lot of chic fun, which I kind of think the Bravo world could use right now. And so it starts out
in the beginning where they're kind of arguing that this one girl said, yet this other girl's charcuterie board sucked and cheese is lame and weird.
That's you to be stretched out a bit.
We never saw that on camera.
That was annoying.
But then they also talked about how they were half-post-out of the dinner
and two girls bailed and went to a more chic restaurant,
Cyprianis, and bailed on this restaurant.
And the two girls are like, it's not 2006.
Later on, they said it's not 2012 and they're bleeping the names of this restaurant that
these girls felt was lame.
They're not a delist model.
They're not like some loser that would go there.
It's not 2012.
I actually thought that was kind of a great argument for women of a certain socioeconomic
social structure and that that might happen where people were like, ew, like we've done
that with girls dinners.
We're like, what?
Again, why is she picking that place?
It fucking sucks.
Do you want to say anything?
No, let's not say anything.
Just, I just wanted to call you and get off the group chat because I'm just like
Like if we're gonna go out if I'm gonna get a sitter Can we please try to get a hip or spot like I liked that again?
I would have liked to see that in camera, but it wasn't anyway people think it's the restaurant catch
Based on how they spoke what they said a little I don't know what it was. Anyone can invite me to catch any day,
or tau, or whatever restaurant was hip, and I believe still great today. I don't care. A meal
is a meal. I'm with the other girls. So that was really well received. People are loving it. They're
rich. They're chic. It's they're young. It's fun. And I am so grateful that they didn't put some
of these girls and put them with like Ramona and Luann and Sonia
and try to mesh them together the way they did
with Ebony and Leah.
It didn't work, it was a disaster.
They've learned their lesson.
These, the women have to be,
if they're not already friends,
they would be friends based on their age,
what they do for a living,
their socioeconomic level.
We want aspiration, we want beautiful homes, we want stylish things we haven't seen before.
You know, that is what it's giving.
Now this girl had these earrings on and I have them.
They were my mother, my mother bought them at I Magnum.
By the way, Shannon Bedore's family like owned i magnum or had something to do with it
and
They it was a big purchase for her sold a house or something there's Chanel per big pearls with gold around it
They're from probably like 1986 and she had a pair so i'm like i'm gonna wear them today because i i feel like upping my
Style since watching this show
I feel like upping my style since watching this show. Big brawl happened on the set of Potomac.
Apparently they were filming real housewives of Potomac.
Allegedly the cameras were down,
but video caught this TMZ, received it,
and it is horrible.
It is like a full on brawl of like pounding on someone's head.
And this is what happened if you're familiar
with the Potomac or not.
It was actually two friends of the main cast members
who have been trying, I guess, to get on the show.
And Candace, who is a main star, she sings.
She has this husband who's a chef, he's white.
Last season, there was talk that he was flirty
with people which never proven to be true and this one girl
named Deborah who was a friend of
Deborah was a friend of
Let me see. I don't know Deborah was a friend of one of the other girls
Ashley Darby. She was a friend of Ashley Darby's and
She said all last season that
Candace's husband was hitting on her.
And it really reminded me a lot of Jamie Foxx's character in a living color who had this
face and was cross-eyed, but the joke was that the character thought that she was like
everyone wanted her and she was so hot, she had this unbelievable confidence. and that's the way I felt like this girl was in the show like she
just was like well you know when you look like this everybody wants you so
Candice confronts her allegedly this what started the fight and then this
other friend of name Kiana walked in and got herself involved and the two of
them started brawling the two friends of not even real cast members started brawling i mean pounding on
heads rolling on the ground
uh... other cast members tried to break it up
and uh...
so but they are saying that uh...
they who through the first punch first
the other girl through it and then the dabber who cares.
It is pretty disturbing.
It's pretty awful.
It's pretty low brow.
It's giving girls, you know, bad girls club, but, you know, well, now people are going
to want to watch.
What was this fight really necessary?
It seemed like it came out of nowhere when you watched the video.
Kim Zolls' actor husband, Kory, are back together.
Radar Online has released all the body cam videos
from the police that have been called to their house
when they were fighting over Kim's handbags.
She was trying to take all her expensive handbags in a car.
He was saying that's community property.
The cop comes and then the cop is just basically being
a therapist to both of them.
She's saying he's mentally ill, he's crazy.
She says, you know what he needs to do?
He needs to get a fricking job.
He hasn't worked in seven years.
Okay, so she's bitter about doing all of her,
you know, selling her products and stuff online,
even though he's filming it,
and even though she said he's the greatest thing ever,
she's resentful that she's the one responsible for bringing in the initial dollars, and he
no longer is.
He's telling everybody, he's telling the cops, she has spent $1.5 million in two years gambling.
She does it from the moment she wakes up to the moment she goes to sleep.
She does it online.
There's no way to stop her.
We literally have nothing but this house. We sleep
in the same bed because I have a bad back and I don't want to sleep on the couch from
playing football and the cop is like, oh man, I know. I was, you know, and I rack and
like they're kind of bonding. And so, but they're back together now. Interesting. They probably
are not thrilled that this the Scott or maybe they did
what is going on it's if it's not a fake kidnapping is a
fake divorce what came first the fake divorce the fake
kidnapping i don't know we're going to get into that later in
the show
marisa else making a fake divorces and and
Kyle
erica jane said you're going to see it come out in the show i'm
gonna let her speak for herself, but no, they're not getting divorced.
Meanwhile, he's doing thirst traps.
He's posting photos of his good body working out in the gym.
You know, I'm sure if I had a listing with Mauricio, I was like, well, could you at least
do a slide show of my backyard because it's been on the market for three months?
I don't know.
But the landscape of his chest was pretty nice. Real housewives of OC, that's been on for a months. I don't know, but the landscape of his chest was pretty nice. Real housewife of OC,
that's been on for a while. It seems like it's been about three months since they've been in Montana.
They took the girls from the OC to Montana. It's very much a simple life. It's very, very much
Luanne and Sonia go to crappy lake. So they're trying to, you know, shovel shit and eat elk or I don't know. The only
juicy thing about it is that there's this new girl named Jen who clearly has only been
asked me on the show because she met her husband at Tamer's gym. He's known as the town,
you know, flandering cheat guy who's never been married. And she met him and started dating him and seeing him
while she was still married. So everyone has a problem with that.
But then Tamra says that when he first came to the gym,
her friend told her that he pointed at Tamra and said,
I'm gonna f her and the friend goes, well, you know she's married
to the owner of the gym, the owner of the gym together. She's happily married to Eddie and he goes, I don gonna f her and the friend goes, well, you know she's married to the owner of the gym,
they own the gym together,
she's happily married to Eddie and he goes,
I don't care, watch me, I'm gonna f her.
According to this, according to the timeline,
and maybe I'm missing something,
Tamara, then the friended Jen,
her new boyfriend, Ryan, who said he wanted to f-tamera.
They've gone out, they've hung out,
Eddie likes them, they're all friends,
they get on the show, and then once they're filming
and in Montana and it's boring,
the pro known to notice camera goes,
and by the way, I didn't want to say anything,
but when your husband first came to the gym,
he saw me first and said I'm going to f-hurt
before he pursued you.
So a lot of people are like, wow, is that a good friend, Jim he saw me first and said i'm going to have her before he pursued you so
a lot of people are like wow
that a good friend or is that just a really good housewife
i don't know
um...
but
s
he does look a lot like a lot like paul nasif this new guy ryan
whose gen's boyfriend
he looks a lot
like paul nasif dr paul nasif from botched
who was on real house OSF Beverly Hills.
And this is thanks to Bravo Breaking News.
And I simply can't on see it.
I think they absolutely look alike.
So many of the women on OC look alike.
I can't.
Everybody has the same filler, lips, spray tan, heavy black eyelashes.
I do like that about Real House as a New York.
I like their makeup, I like their style. It is kind of refreshing. But that's what's
cool about it. This is the New York, this is the East Coast, this is the West Coast.
You can pick and choose what you like from either, but hopefully it's not those heavy awful
lashes. Okay, you guys. now let's bring in your favorite Chris
Friend Jola and get into all the hot, hot topics
that have been happening in the news.
Let's do it.
Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
As promised, the favorite Chris Friend Jola.
Tanned, looking rich.
That's what I was going for.
One percent looking generational wealth.
Thank you.
Fresh from Monton for two weeks.
Yes, welcome back.
Welcome back to the peasant studio of
Juicy Scoopers.
Well, not only is it a peasant, it's a family run operation here at Juicy Scoop.
And now I've never seen it more family run that it's currently what just happened
leading up to. I mean it's like being I feel like I'm filming like a reality show about a family that's
not doing well and I'm like the cameraman who's just trying to stay out of the way.
Yeah, I think as you know in the growth of the eight years of DC school, you would
said, I, you had to come to the whole studio.
I always came to Cal Basis.
I came to our little street.
Bedrooms, different bedrooms.
Bedrooms kitchen, living room, and you said, I feel like I'm the guinea pig.
Yeah.
And so now we do treat you as the guinea pig.
Which is fine. So we're trying something new a little bit production wise today.
And you're the first and we're going to try it out.
I'm a lot of screaming through the walls if it's worth. So it's so far it seems to be working smoothly.
Whatever. It's about the content. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You guys don't need to know what happens behind
this. And we both look cute cute we're trying i um...
i had a great weekend and treat a turk makes this
yes sweater and short set
and i went to the reagan library with brennan for the outchwoods exhibit
yeah and i wore this
and i get a little more i knew people would love it but i didn't want to say
hey this is what i'm wearing at the outsuits exhibit
Yeah, but so but a lot of people commented just in me saying hey ghosty this exhibit. It was really great
I feel like where'd you get that sweater? Where'd you get that so I'm like, okay?
I think I'm gonna wear it on Monday with Chris and give it a proper
Right, you know proper shout out to how cute it is very cute
Um, I don't know, but where are the, how should it exhibit?
But yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, and I'm wearing these earrings, which were my mother's, but I saw one of the real
housewives of New York, um, was wearing them.
There, there's a new young cast now.
Yeah.
And I just got off the phone with Jill Zaren, and I was telling her what I thought.
And we were saying, because I just
already talked about this, so I just want to recap. But there was one girl on the show
that left mid-filming. And I think that's why this first episode, it was a little confusing.
They didn't give their big long intros of how they all met each other, because they had to cut
around this girl who left abruptly. She was, well, she was a orthodox Jewish woman who was married.
And she was a matchmaker.
And allegedly, there was a conversation between her
and this girl who is, I forgot what country she's from,
but she's black.
Yeah.
And about matching her and she said,
well, I'm a Jewish matchmaker.
Uh-huh.
And the whole point is to find both people being Jewish.
Oh, got it.
Yeah.
Something got misinterpreted.
Some back and forth, something allegedly happened.
Yeah.
Where it wasn't pleasant.
It was all too much.
And they just were like, goodbye.
So now they're cutting around it.
In my opinion.
In my opinion, I think they're cutting around it.
But I'm going to be with Jill's there.
But the earrings look nice. The earrings are going to be wearing them. I'm like, this, yeah. I'm, but I'm gonna be with Jill's there. But the earrings look nice.
The earrings are gonna be wearing them.
I'm like, this is chic.
They're from 1986.
They're from, yeah.
But you were in Montauk.
I'm going there after we do our shows.
We have our shows at the 10th is,
forgot all the dates, but red bank, New Jersey.
Red bank, New Jersey, then we're doing Fox Woods.
Fox Woods and Casino Connecticut. And then we're doing the Hunting fox woods and casino can then we're doing the huntington the paramount theater
huntington long island long town my people christinae are going to do all that
together then i'm re relaxing for the week staying with jill zaren part of
time and with another part friend lease parker who lives in amagan and
against it i just was there yesterday and so listen you're telling me all these great things i'm putting it out to the doose yesterday. And so listen, you're telling me about all these great things.
I'm putting it out to the juicy scoopers to hook me up.
Like sure, I can get at least a reservation for a cute lunch somewhere because I know it's
going to be crazy.
Let me just tell you this.
Yes.
I am just a cog in the wheel here on juicy scoop.
There are many other gaze and lesbians who are loved more than me on this show.
And true.
I was counting out my gay and lesbian friends and it is a lot. and lesbians who are loved more than me on this show. And true.
I was counting out my gay and lesbian friends,
and it is a lot, and I'm thrilled to say this.
Well, I'll say this.
I couldn't find my only straight friend.
I know, really, yeah.
But it's questionable.
I mean, look at me.
But I couldn't walk down the streets,
Montalk, Amagance, and he's Hampton.
You name it.
Jersey School. Really? We love you. Well, then I'm going to show in West Hamptons down the streets, Montauk, Amagance, and he's Hampton. You name it. Jersey Scoop.
Really?
We love you.
I'm going to show in West Hampton's on, I think, the 18th.
So I hope people go to that.
Yes.
But anyway, you've got to love it.
I can't believe you're not, this is not your world.
It is my world.
I've only gone a few times because both my friends, Lisa and Jill, have invited me over
the years. But I haven't been since before COVID.
So it's been a few years, and every time I go, I love it.
It's, I have to really think about my outfits
because I want to look rich, chic, generational wealth.
Okay.
East Coast.
Sure, sure.
Where are you suffering in Europe?
Yeah.
You know, that kind of a thing, which is completely opposite of my life.
And so I got to be, I got to figure it out.
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can i tell you the hottest trend yes i noticed i was at two weeks and the
hottest trend this summer is no bra. No bra is the hottest trend of the summer.
Is it still under what about under tick cleavage?
I am seeing a lot of it on this cleavage.
Just no bra.
Just nips.
And I happened to mention it to my wife.
I'm like I'm noticing a lot of this.
She goes, oh yeah.
It that's this.
She goes, you won't see a bra strap in this summer.
Anywhere.
What was the era of like burning the bra?
Yeah, I'm like whatever, glorious thine,
I mean, yeah, I've just said.
So leave my broth at home.
I guess, you know, maybe.
Leave my nipple, like who needs a silicone nipple cover?
No, you want it out.
You want hard nipples, purkin.
That's what you want, hard nipples, purkin.
Okay, I can do that.
That's what I want.
Because I keep those nipple covers for so long
that they lose all their stickiness.
Especially wear them like three times, but you know me of a cheap bitch.
So then all of a sudden, you're walking through the night and you realize one is gone.
Just one nips just like that.
That's not generous.
And one is still on.
That's not generational wealth.
No, nipple covers are sliding off.
Okay.
Alright, well good.
How about flowy, is it long flowy dresses,
is there still white jeans and like a tennis shoe?
You know what is it?
Can I be at all like slutty lady
in too short of a skirt or absolutely not,
that scream is a remonus singer?
I didn't see a lot of shit.
You know what you're seeing?
And I never see you wear this,
but I think you should.
Okay, please.
The only really cute girl is like that
kind of larger boyfriend, jean type situation rolled. I can't see you. It's like that kind of larger boyfriend,
gene type situation rolled.
I'm telling you, that's where it's at.
It looks good.
Big chunky shoe.
Have some fun with it.
A chunky shoe with my tiny ankles looks horrific.
Well, all right.
I'm just letting you know what's going on out there.
You know, the Jessica Seinfelds in the world.
Okay, from the fashionistas who know my body, can I have some other suggestions besides
a giant boy for you? So you're telling me, giant boy,
fringingine, giant, giant, not the giant boy for you, they're like pulled up to your
nose, which I don't have a great flat stomach. And then a a wife,
beater tank, tank, nothing else.
Yes, now you're talking.
Cool sunglasses.
Now you're gonna be accepted everywhere.
You can go from, see, here's the thing
with Montauk and Hamptons.
There are several, you could go from everywhere.
There's a place called the Montauk,
that everyone goes for sunset.
Okay.
And it's hip and it's fun,
but it's just a shitty beach bar.
Okay.
You could go from there down to Georea, which is like,
I mean, literally the prime minister of France is pulling up on a yacht.
Vouli voucou cher, but more, say so.
That kind of stuff.
And you can do both.
You can move through that.
I'm just telling you, these are the things that I get you both plays.
Scarpetta Beach and Gurney's,
does a girl who hooked me up with it
on a juicy scooper. I'm going by myself after you leave.
I'll be by myself with my girlfriends. I will be living a open
marriage that week. I haven't told Peter either.
No, but I'm not going to be doing that. But I am going to be
looking for whatever comes my way.
Can I tell you one tragedy that happened while you were there?
Please.
Sadly.
It's not a real tragedy.
Okay.
We were off on Shelter Island, which is around you, like across from Sag Harbor.
And there's a hotel there called, like, Sunset Beach Hotel.
I think it's a cool little spot.
I'd never been there before.
I said, I've always read about it.
I want to go.
Yeah. Anyway, we make a reservation we we get, and it's a scene.
It's a scene, it's a Euro-Treshy kind of scene.
I kind of like that.
But fun, I know, but in a good way.
Okay.
Anyway, I have two people with us,
I'm not gonna say anymore,
but it's two people with us who aren't as hip as me.
I like to think I am, or my wife, or, anyway.
Dragon you.
Yeah, they got a lot of sunscreen on their face.
Not rubbing.
Oh, got it in rub it in.
No, it lit a guy.
Let me look at Cas for the friendly go.
Just all over his face and whatever.
You have cargo shorts, flip, fly.
I know, the whole thing.
Yeah.
Anyway, we just got off the carnival cruise.
Exactly.
They look, they might as well be wearing matching Disney jackets.
They got a shirt that says ship happens. They're all wearing it. 100%. You know exactly what I'm
talking about. Woo. This is tough. Okay. So how far ahead do you watch? We pull off the parking lot.
Okay. And and I'm now I'm taking it all in. I got my whole I got what I want on. The sun glasses
everything's right. And I'm taking it all in and I see my whole, I got what I want on, the sunglasses, everything's right.
And I'm taking it all in,
and I see them making a B line to the host to stand.
And I'm like, what are they doing?
What, I tell my wife, I said, what's it?
Stop them, I'll do the talking.
Yes.
They had already beat us to it.
And we're like, we have a table for,
I mean, you thought they were an Apple piece, you know?
And, oh no, and they gave us a table because they were dealing
with sunscreen face.
Yeah.
You know, they gave us a table, no umbrella,
by the bathroom.
And I'm like, it's because they did the talking.
Anyway, but-
Well, recently that happened to me,
where we got there, our friends already got there.
And my friend Liz said, I think we can, I don't like this table. We were right
by the bar and the bathroom in the corner. And I said, you know what, I'm going to see
if we can. And I just very nicely said, hey, I'm not in love with my table. Don't know
if it's possible. But do you think we could do any better? And she looked up and down
and she goes, yes, I do think we could do better.
Yeah.
And we did do better.
See?
We got the best table in the house.
Yeah, I know.
You gotta let the people who know what they're doing,
do the talking.
Yeah.
Well, I did try and make it better.
And this hotel is owned by Andre Balaz.
I have a girlfriend.
Oh, old friend.
We vacationed with Andre Balaz when he was dating Chelsea.
So I told them that.
Did you tell him that he had Shoey right on his back to get from the boat to the sand?
Yes, he treated Shoey as if he was like, you know, whatever.
But so I went up to the hostess and this woman, I had obviously heard this line a million
times on last time.
I'm friends with Andre.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, is this still Andre's place?
I guess it is.
I'm like, is Andre, I'm a friend. And she's like, she looked at me like, yeah, yeah. I was like, is this still Andre's place? I guess it is. I'm like, is Andre? I'm a friend.
And she's like, she looked at me like, yeah, you
want everyone else.
Like, go back to your table by the kitchen.
You lose her.
And I was like, okay, thank you.
Oh, sorry.
Don't worry.
We'll be leaving at four when the cruise ship takes up.
We'll be at the dock.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
With our hair braided, you know, you
get to the hair braided on the beach and a hand
attempt to one our hand. Wow. Okay, well, I'm excited to go reach out to
me people if you've got the hot, fun, excited to go. It's the greatest. Just
breaking news TMZ reporting that Ariana Grande and Dalton Gomez are separated
and headed for divorce. Yes. She met him. They were seeing
making out in 2020. Yes. When you're not supposed to be
making out. That was high COVID times. I don't know what the hell they were thinking, but they were
clearly both got tested in the search make out. Right. And um, it said they were seeing making
out of the bar Louie in Northridge. I don't know if you guys most people know what a bar Louie is. It's
not it's a good place, but it's like a chain of like bar restaurants. I think that was like the only one, the only place open.
They're usually open late.
So like, have to comedy shows if you're playing like some shitty cities.
Why would TGI Friday?
Yeah, well, it's a similar vibe.
We would always go there after I did like a play at my high school Louisville
because it would be the only place I'd be open at like 10th grade.
Yeah, for us it was friendly, but a similar vibe.
Yeah, I love it.
Anyway, they said they're going to remain good friends while they're like, he like her realtor or something. Yeah. And you know, she decided to marry a
normie. It was right off the date. It's in engagement. This happened. So it was it was never built
out a solid foundation. She was seen at Wimbledon without her ring. And now it's confirmed that like
it's Caput's. And she was sitting next to Andrew Garfield, I believe at Wimilton and so the rumors were a buzz
So I have a prediction. Okay
This little
Dalton Gomez with this real estate license will be picked up either by selling sunset or
Buying Beverly Hills with Mauricio great idea because they like when someone has an exciting X right now
on selling sunset.
Originally they got Creshell because she was married
to the Us guy.
This is us.
Then they now they have like number eight of the nine
baby mamas of no disrespect,
whatever, brief, whatever.
She's fun to watch. Nick Cannon.
Nick Cannon.
So now, he will be able to come and tell a good story.
And also, the selling sunset in OC had this cute guy who was married to the girl from
pitch perfect.
Oh.
And they broke up.
I forgot her name.
They broke up.
But anyway, now he's single. But like that.
Oh, snow, Britney Stowe. He was married to Britney Stowe. So that was kind of juicy that
he's married to a movie. So they like like movies are adjacent real tours. Yeah. Yeah.
That would be great. So that's just going to happen. Also, juicy news. They just announced
who the golden matchler is. ABC, senior citizen star, finally revealed.
He's 71 and he's absolutely a perfect catch.
If anybody is perfect 71, it's perfect 71 to fall in love again.
I said this, I knew it would be a widow, not a divorcee.
He's a widow.
Had to be a widow and it was the love of his life.
It was his high school sweetheart.
They have a few kids.
Sadly, she passed away like six years ago.
So that's a good amount of time.
Was it last year?
Mm-hmm.
He has a beautiful house on the lake in Indiana.
He loves the Chicago, whatever, bulls and whatever else.
Yeah, all the whole, everything.
All the way to the Midwest.
Absolutely perfect.
Best city in the world to come from
makes you sophisticated yet normal.
And the good thing is we don't have to sit to the episodes
where they go to his parents house.
They're long gone.
Those are always the boring episodes
and you gotta meet the parents.
Well, they'll go and meet the kids.
So I'm sure the kids are part of it.
And so he's got grandkids and he plays pickleball,
which I just saw this thing about how many people
are getting injured playing pickleball
because these people start playing it
and they're still older and they get too aggressive with it.
And they fall.
I have a wound right now.
A pickleball wound?
Actually it was from tennis, but it could have been pickleball.
Anyway, I fell because I finally got a rally going out so excited i wasn't
gonna let it stop yeah and i fell over my feet
uh...
well in our so
yeah
good well i also heard the people are upset about your own has pickable
uh... paddles that they sell okay and they look like the Beverly Hills hotel
they're very cute oh she has a line of pickable
very cute
uh... yeah so it's a very fun game, but just be careful. And, but I'm down for
this, like I, I will start to watch it. I'm not watching the bachelor at all, be honest.
I kind of lost interest in that. So I am sort of interested to see what they're going
to do. And if these women are going to be like, well, that's going to be the difficult.
I mean, they're actually overly sexual or what?
To find a 71 year old who looks as good as this guy does,
at least in this picture.
You said he was a little Georgetown,
but he's a little tan.
It's a little fake tan or whatever they put on
to prop him up, you know,
because you know, that's not the real look right there.
Yeah.
You're not going to get,
because I did see a video of him like he,
so when he's moving in real life,
he seems a little more elderly.
You see 71, you start to see seems a little more elderly you see 71 you
start to see 71 a little more okay yeah yeah who knows we'll see will there be biagra talk
will there be loob talk will there be hot flash talk yeah will there be whatever I don't know do
you know the what is the age of the women what's's gonna be the, I'm gonna make a prediction. Like, is it 50 to 80?
I'm gonna say 100%.
There's no way they're gonna entertain someone under 50.
I honestly think they shouldn't entertain anyone under 60.
In my opinion.
No, you,
But I think they will.
Yeah, you have.
I think they'll probably start at like 57, 58 is what I think.
Oh, I think it's gotta be 50 to 70.
Joe, you think it's gonna be younger? Yeah. Okay.'s got to be 50 to 70 younger yeah okay it's got to be 50 to 75 yeah just to make it more interesting to watch but you know with with women today and like you know
It's gonna be I'm I'm excited actually yeah, I think we're ready. I think I think it's it's time to freshen up that franchise
Yeah, yeah, um, but who I wonder who they're gonna get to host. Instead of roses, they're getting out to carnations.
This is when you bring Brack Chris Harrison.
This is when you say enough is enough.
But they pay him so much that I don't even think
he could come back, but anyway.
Yeah.
Who are they gonna get?
Do we know?
Yeah, do we know?
I haven't heard.
I think it starts tonight, so it's like, it's on already.
It's not Matt Lauer
I don't know I'm like an old maybe an old guy maybe a me robot and what's it? Oh those what happened to those two
They're still a girl just wrote me and she said you just saw them jogging. Oh, okay. They're still jogging
But nobody's saying they're still yeah, they're still jogging together and you know going to cute lunches
Okay, our city right right have not started their podcast yet. Yeah, well're still jogging together and you know going to cute lunches.
Okay, our city. Right, right. They have not started their podcast yet. Yeah, well get ready. Yeah, let's come in.
Okay, let's talk about this the serial killer. The suspect in the Long Island serial killer case is ID.
It's architect Rex,
human and oh my gosh, there is a people Pico Park went to school with Billy Baldwin.
Billy Baldwin.
They both went to the same high school.
So just to give you a little road, there's been movies about this.
It's been going on for years.
Yeah, 11 years.
Over the decades.
So the more than a decade after the bodies of various young women being piling up around Gilgobee.
Gilgobee, in Long Island, New York, a suspect has been taken into custody. Rex, her, her
men is an architect with an office in Manhattan has been identified as a suspect. So it was
a beautiful home, a beautiful area. And my understanding was that he would contact sex
workers to come over. And then these girls would go missing and oftentimes
Their family didn't really know what they were doing and didn't know where they went, okay?
so
The killings dubbed as long as serial serial killer case first came to light in December
2010 that's how long it's been that this fanat least families are suffering. Bodies of Melissa, Barth, LeBae, Amber, Castella, Megan Waterman, and Maureen Barnes were found,
wrapped in burlap and placed within 500 feet of one another buried in a marsh on the beach.
And then in January 22, they released photographs of a black leather belt found at one of the dump
locations. They believe likely belong to the murder or the belt
is imprinted with the letters W H or H M
just spending, like I guess,
how you would turn it around.
I wonder what that H&M,
maybe that's where he got to belt.
Well, like that, well, his last name starts with an H,
but maybe Rex was just like a,
maybe his real name or
I don't know yeah that same month police announced the creation of a website okay so well now it's
all DNA they got to get now it's what the DNA is is that um so i'll tell you exactly so i asked
Matt Murphy former prosecutor he's doing all these interviews about it. He's a regular person on, he's a regular person on like, you know, 2020.
He's been on my show.
So I asked what the deal was.
And he said, let me see.
So basically the biggest thing is that there's three hairs that were found on these bodies.
Right.
One is his and one is of his wife, of his wife.
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
So I asked him, is there any way anyone's looking at her?
Like there are a weird couple that did this together.
No, everything she's been completely clear
and she was always out of town.
When any of these.
I call her for conventions.
That's where she went.
Really, really, oh my God.
So they, then they were,
so they were accidental transfers.
And he's saying that he thinks this guy is like a dexter
because it's a different kind of DNA that they have on him.
It's not like semen or blood.
It's more like the internal tissue and everything
that, because I said, what is this mic,
they call it mitochondrial DNA.
So, that's really what they have,
but the only thing is that instead of
at normal nuclear DNA, which is like,
well, there's one in a hundred chance that this is,
you know, instead it's one in a trillion. No, wait, no, the regular one is one in a trillion instead it's one in a trillion.
No wait, no, the regular one is one in a trillion.
This is one in a hundred.
So there's a little bit of where his defense
will probably say, yeah, it's not him.
It's not him.
We don't know for sure.
So it's a different kind of DNA
since they don't have the sperm or anything of his.
But they do have the hair and then they have the,
and then he would do these horrible things
where he had their cell phones.
He must have, either they didn't have a passcode
or he got the amount of it before he died.
And he would check their cell phones
and he'd find word family members and taunt them.
Yeah, call that from burner phones that he had.
Yes.
And they have video of him buying the burner phones
in different
Locations throughout Long Island. He then he would all he so
He'd brag about raping and killing their loved ones. Yeah
But he had two kids and a wife this guy so what you're right, and I don't know where the kids I assume he always did this when they were gone. Yeah
But yeah, so cell phone
The cell phone bill was linked to him
And you know how they found his DNA, which is a which is a good tip for everybody what each your pizza crust
Oh, yeah, they got it found that on pizza crust. He had a piece of pizza
But they'd been following him for a while and then the Latin the last
Bit of time they did get FBI involved.
Right.
But they did it according to Matt, they really did it the right way to make sure that they
had everything they needed.
But they did move in now because they were afraid he would strike again or leave.
Right.
So they're like, we have to get him.
My favorite part of anything like this happening on Long Island in my home town is that
you have to interview, now you have to interview people from Long Island about it and that's the greatest when Long Island
people get on the news and what are they say just oh my god it can't believe it
he seemed like a normal guy he was a Greek they wear like the crazy outfits
now you are from Long Island why weren't they asking you I know I cannot believe
they haven't come to me because i was you know all over this case
yeah
here are some of the things
records obtained from a ten from tinder revealed a burner phone was linked to
fictitious pit tinder account
for andrew robert using an email
that humor m in the suspect also access from his personal cell phone and they
have so much evidence
humor m in also allegedly used Google Pay
to fund the dating app, which was via his American Express
credit card.
And he also allegedly used an email under a pseudonym Thomas
Hawk to look up disturbing subjects on Google,
including girl begging for rape porn,
nude slave girls, and 10 year old school girls, disgusting.
And so, yeah, they got and 10 year old school girls disgusting.
And so, yeah, they got the pizza crust, as you said.
He tossed it in the trash.
Yeah.
And a fifth avenue on January 26th.
On January 26th, so they had the DNA, then they did all the matching of the DNA, and then
they finally decided, yeah, and then Billy Baldwin, as you said, they went to high school in New York
together, burner high school.
Massive school.
And they graduated in 1981.
Yeah, the home of Jerry Seinfeld and the Baldwin's, Massive Piqua.
Wow.
A lot of people come out of Mass Piqua.
Anyway, they thought they got it.
And he had like the shitty house on the street, which is all, that's kind of a bit of a red flag. So he had the worst house in the neighborhood?
Yes, yes, and they were I saw a couple of people be interviewed like we always were concerned about the house because it's a kind of a nice neighborhood
Now like we would all like a quarter house and just uncapped a little uncapped a little
Hordery I'm seeing some of the stuff being brought out, you know, and it was like a doll collection always a red flag a doll collection
His apparently Yeah, and as like a doll collection always a red flag a doll collection his apparently
Yeah, always creepy. Well, I have a doll collection wait a minute. Oh, yeah That's true and the dolls look like my friends. So that's yeah, that's a little weird. Yeah. Yeah. Oh god
Well, um, hopefully there's some peace for these families because there was like a whole movie done about it
Yeah, it was a big deal
Yeah, and I guess you know now that you're reading all these things about the links to pay pals and the links to all
Yeah, I mean it's Murr serial killing and murdering as tough these days gotten harder
It's gotten a lot harder than the Dalmer days the DNA and and the link to payments and all that
I mean and all the surveillance cameras and And the pings off the cell towers.
That's a little bit of a...
What if you tell me if you remember this part
because I don't?
Wasn't it that some of these sex workers,
like how did they get there?
Did they get dropped off in an Uber
or did any of them ever have like a driver
that waited for them?
Or did they all just get there and then knock on the door
and then never come home?
I'm not exactly sure.
Yeah, kind of. because it's out there.
Because I remember there was one where like one girl was screaming,
like one girl made like a nine, nine, one, one call.
But didn't live.
But didn't live.
Oh, that's it.
And they're not saying that she's at this point,
they're not saying that girl's linked to him.
Well, obviously.
I know, obviously.
But there were nine or eight or nine bodies they found.
And they only linked him to four or three or four.
Right.
So who knows why or right.
And one of them was a man.
It was a man involved.
I saw.
I think there was like eight women and one man.
God, imagine being the wife and you're having fun at Comic Con.
And then this happens.
Yeah, I know.
She probably was there when he got arrested.
That's a common cause of a thing in the summer, right?
I don't know, but if you went to, yeah, who knows?
Anyway, it's a, I think they got the guy.
Speaking of which.
It looks very serial, Kellerie.
Matt Lauer showed up at a lazy, ladies only golf luncheon in South Hampton.
Can we just have one thing?
Just kidding.
Not ever going there again, especially with you, Chris.
Don't you worry all are welcome.
All are welcome
please welcome come into the light. Anyway he was just there I just thought it was
funny and he made a surprise appearance at a luncheon at his exclusive South
Hampton golf club on Thursday surprising because it was a lady's only a fair
but anyway he's like well I'm here now deal with it ladies i mean
he's still hanging out in the hamptons huh that's yeah i don't know that he
went into the ladies locker rooms again we don't know that i got to touch that
uh... with a nine inch roll okay i am not
well i i feel like uh... he should just at this point i mean i don't know is it
is it getting to the point where he doesn't need anything just got so i mean but i would i would have left the hamptons at this point i mean i don't know is it is it getting to the point where he doesn't need anything just got so i mean
but i would have left the hamptons at this point
you said how great it is
all i know what i'm saying it's great for me because i'm not i wasn't
i think i think people were nice to him at the i bet they were nice to his
face at the slay
right right i don't think any of those ladies were like
right faster whatever i don't think any of those ladies were like, right faster. Whatever, I don't think any of that happened.
No, he's been in the hands of this whole.
I think people acted nice to his face
and then gossiped about it after.
So this story has a nice ending, this girl is safe,
but it is a curious story.
So this went crazy over the weekend.
So many people, I follow, I post it in juicy scoop of sass. Right. People were letting me know
because one of the things I talk about is it's my my hero
fantasy to rescue an abandoned child. Right. It could be a
newborn. It could be a toddler. I did rescue one at Disneyland
who was about three. Uh huh. And but it was a short lived.
The mother found us. Yeah. And she the big, you know, the
mother's crying,
the kid ran off once he didn't like his ice cream.
It was not her fault. She's an excellent mother.
But I was still a rescue.
None of the rest of the rest of the rest.
It was still a rescue and I still got to talk to that child.
And I also got to see how easy it was if I needed to,
if I could, how easy I could get him to go to my car.
He just abducted the child.
He completely stopped crying.
We started talking.
He was like completely ready to be my son.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this woman from Alabama,
she calls 911. She goes, oh my God, I see a walking toddler on the side of the highway. And
she called 911 and I think she also, so there was that and they were coming. And then she called
like a cousin or something was telling her, and there was scream and they didn't hear from her
And then when they got to where she said that she had pulled over her car was there her wig was there her purse was there her
cellphone was there
But no young toddler so then everyone's like looking at the surveillance the parents do a
A plea and they're very positive religious like, like we're only going to have positive thoughts
that we're going to find her.
And anyway, she showed up.
Couple of days later, right?
So here's the details of it, okay.
So she went missing, like I said, on, it was I, 495.
And she's a nursing student, She called the police and also her boyfriend
publicly thanked the supporters and defended himself against any allegations that he was involved.
And so then now she has been found at her place. She went to the hospital. They checked her out.
I don't know what we don't know if she was trafficked at all or assaulted or what happened,
but she was well enough to leave.
And so, since a return, the boyfriend broke his silence earlier, talking to Instagram
to share photos of videos of the two while clearing his name of any run doing.
Now, her mother, Carly's mother, has taken a Facebook page to break her own silence, asking
now for privacy until the family is ready
to talk and release official statement.
My husband and I wanna make this statement again
as we did last night, we have nothing to add
or take away from how we're feeling right now
just that they're grateful, our baby is safe.
So was there ever a toddler?
What's the toddler stuff?
There is no toddler.
There's no toddler that they found.
Now there's a couple things that could have happened.
Did was the toddler alert like, did someone put out their toddler
so that someone pull over. Right. And they hope that it would be a girl on a busy highway,
seems a little strange. Right. And once she had the toddler in her possession, then that
was there. Then someone came up behind her, kidnapped her, took her money, did something
off a tour, but at some point she escaped or they released her we don't know
So at this point there's no I feel like at this point. There's no toddler so listen
I feel like the parents of the toddler would be like yes
She found our toddler on the side of the road. Thank you for returning it unless there's no bit parents
There's nothing that shows a toddler or anything right in the surveillance of the highway.
Okay.
There is, there was some other vehicle that looks suspicious, some gray car that when they
were looking for her, they're like, there was a gray car.
So I mean, I think, yeah, there's some, there's some talk happening among people of like,
is this story true?
It's like I said, what if something's going to happen?
It could have been someone used their toddler to lure a woman and somehow she
escaped a horrible situation.
Or it could be something else.
Or it could be she was at her boyfriend's house.
Or it could be, I don't know, there's fake kidnappings.
Yeah.
That have happened.
Jesse Smollett, right.
The girl from wherever Modesto that, that to Mexican lesbians kidnaps
or when she was with her ex boyfriend, there was the girl who said someone was trying to
kidnap her kids in Petaluma and they weren't.
And I'm not saying this is the case.
But because of those cases, some people are talking. Right. That it's a
little odd. But also, I was interested because I feel like this is a better
believe on a pullover. Even now, if I say a toddler, I'm never not pull over for
a toddler walking the streets alone. I've never seen it. I would. My friend did
get one. Yeah. She got one five a. 5am walking down to Soto the day after Thanksgiving.
She was getting up early to go to her shopping.
And why the kid just walked out of the house?
Yeah, the kid walked.
The girl was a single mom.
She was staying with a friend and there was miscommunication.
And like, you know, he woke up and this wasn't his regular home
and he just started, he walked out of the apartment
and the other person didn't know he had walked out.
And yeah.
You know, it was all okay.
Like the mom got her kid back,
but it was just something crazy like that.
My friend happened to see him just walking like it is the jobless.
My daughter won't walk anywhere.
I got a fucking carrier everywhere.
I wish she would walk down the street.
I mean, she's always carrying me,
carrying me like you're four now, we don't need to carry you.
And then I tell her, show me another four year old
being carried right now, and then she'll spend the rest
of the day trying to find one and she'll find one.
She'll like, there's one.
I'm like, oh, now I gotta carry you for another two weeks.
I worked on this cartoon with a Wayne's Brothers
called like Little Boo Kids.
I can't even remember, but I was like a character in it.
Like I was a voiceover in it.
And they had all these different, thugaboos called thugaboos.
And one of the characters that came up with was this kid that was in the stroller that
was so big that it could walk with its own feet, but just still going to be an astroller. Like completely fine. I see it in the stroller that was so big that it could walk with its own feet, but just still going
to be an astrologer. Like completely fine. I see it in the air.
Anyway, I, you know, hopefully we'll know the truth.
Well, I feel like this is quickly, you're going to come to a conclusion quickly on this
one.
I think everyone's being sensitive about it. Except me, I'm not being that, but look, I'm
happy she's safe. Because I really thought when I heard this story, oh God, they used the toddler to lure a world we'll never hear from this girl again. She's dead. Right. So I'm happy she's safe, because I really thought when I heard this story, oh God, they used
the toddler to lure a world we'll never hear from this girl again, she's dead.
So I'm just whether, whether not all of the story that we've been fed is 100% true, who
cares?
You're happy she's alive.
But if it turns out that she, because 60, 70 cops, I mean, people were on this.
So if for some reason something she,
in her call to the police was not 100% true,
then she will get in trouble.
Yeah.
So, yeah, this one way, I just don't wanna say,
he said she fought for her life.
She was kidnapped for a while.
That's what the boyfriend's saying.
And then her family's saying, leave us alone.
We won't privacy now.
Yeah. Let's talk about, and family's saying, leave us alone. We won't privacy now. Yeah.
Let's talk about, and just like that,
the latest episode.
I want, yes.
And with Chadias.
And as I've said earlier in this season,
I think she is a good actress.
I think they are a good actress.
She's excellent.
And.
But she's always been a good actress.
They are excellent.
What do you mean?
Is that what she's considered herself?
I think she is a they them as well,
not just the character she plays.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I'm just gonna say Sarah Rodriguez.
Sarah Rodriguez.
Instead of a president.
She was an amazing actress.
She's good actress.
Anyway, when she's not doing horrible stand-up
that somebody wrote for her,
or horrible podcasting work
to someone like when she's just being the character. I thought this scene was
really good to fill people in. So she is a podcaster and a stand up who gets
her own very typical of the last 25 years. You get the fan the sitcom
about your family. Right. Tony Danza is the dad. And now he's dealing with his former daughter who's now non-binary, but she's hilarious.
And she said, oh, Sarah says, oh, I'm excited because my agent's coming to watch the focus
group.
Now, never have I ever heard of a star being able to watch the focus group.
Have you ever heard of that?
Not that I know of.
I was subject of a focus group once.
Subject of one on one.
I was what they were focusing on.
Why, how, why?
I did a show, you'll remember, with Ross Matthews.
Oh yeah.
We were going to have a show show it'd be like once a week
on e while you know and still sort of i think i could still remain on chelsea i don't
know what the deal is right but they say came to me and they said
first it was going to be ross and guy brown and
and they thought that was a fun idea of two different types of gay guys coming
together talking about pop culture okay then he said
no we think like he Heather would be really good
with Ross.
We love them together.
They come, they bring it to me.
I go to, you know, whatever, Tom, who is REP.
And he goes, what do you think?
And I'm like, oh my God, have my own show with Ross.
I could anything be more fun and easy.
Great.
So we do the pilot. And he's able to work on the pilot
in in these offices that they gave us across the street all day long and they're like you can have
two riders. He's got two riders. And I get Jen Kirkman who was great. She had left the show
for a minute and she was free. And I believe it was comedian Jason Nash too, right? I didn't know
who else to get. All my friends worked on Chelsea. But Jason Nash is like a big star now.
He's like a big, like internet star.
You're right.
I didn't even know.
He was great too.
But I asked her, like I was like, do you need it?
I mean, I have a budget for two more people,
like for two people.
So I had to work on Chelsea lately all day
and then I had to ask to Murphy,
can I please cross the street?
It's 430.
I'm about to do a pilot that could
fuck the change my life.
No, you need to sit at your desk.
No, sit at your desk, you can go at six.
Yeah.
So then I crossed the street and we were coming up with topics
and coming up with funny thing.
And now the day comes and we're going to film it.
And there were things like the graphics.
It was called love, love it or hate it or something.
You love it or you hate it.
And I was like, I kind of hate the graphics but I didn't
Feel like I could speak up, you know, because it was that guy that drank wine at his desk remember him
That did the graphics he cut us scared so I was like okay fine
So I get a dumbness yes, and then oh god
I'm like such an awful I'm actually an awful diva like to my own
demise because I remember like then Ross's boyfriend at the time, who I really like, he was the
stylist and he brought me a bunch of clothes and have a certain body as I said. Can't wear the boyfriend
here. I can't wear everything and it just was like not working and I go, I'm not feeling this. And then Ross like let me know like,
oh, Salvador's feelings are really hurt.
You could just give more encouragement.
I'm like, oh my God, maybe I don't need a stylist.
Like let me just try to figure out that.
But then he brings a great outfit and I love it.
But I will say one of the things I should have thought of,
because I also lost a second job to this,
is when I stand next to a guy
and I'm taller focus groups
hate that.
Yeah.
That's had two focus groups fire me.
I'm just thinking about it right now.
So, I'm standing next to Ross and I have these little short gray boots on flattering
Trena Turk dress actually.
And I look cute, I love my hair and makeup, but when I saw the standing there together
I'm like, I don't think it's great that I'm taller than him.
Anyway, the show comes and I'm waiting like,
when are we gonna hear of the pick-up comes?
And Tom calls me into his office after
like everyone is left for the day.
And he goes, so they're not picking up the show.
And he goes, because he did a focus group
and everyone hated you.
I'm not kidding, it was this blunt.
He goes, but they loved ross
so he's gonna give ross his own show you're absolutely not going to be part of
it
right
and so i'm sorry
yeah
and i go
oh
he's like that focus group just
they just had horrible reactions to you
did you ever read any of the reactions
no i just like i got in the car, called Ross, I cried, he was sweet, talked to Chelsea
the night and I was like, well this really wasn't my dream show anyway.
So whatever, I'll think of something.
And I'm like, let me just mourn it for one day.
Next day, done.
But what I would do, then I did this other thing, right after Chelsea ended, they go, oh,
we want you to do the craziest Christmas commercials like on CW.
And we're paying you $10,000 to do it.
And I did it and they cast this other guy, I can't remember.
And I do the whole thing and I'm taller than him.
And then I call my agent and I go, hey, when is that thing airing?
Because it's almost Christmas time.
He's like, the focus groups hate you.
He said the focus groups hate you.
They actually reshot the whole thing
with two completely different people.
Wow.
I'll say this.
So anyway.
To make you feel better.
Yeah.
I used to be in focus groups.
I used to do it for money, like back when times were tough.
Yeah.
You were able to do it once a month
over at the whatever the guild building was
Okay, and they paid you $50 and you would go in and watch or do you TV shows and then you would they would put you all together
And they wanted you know a different there they wanted a Latino woman and a white guy and blah blah blah
And we would all watch I watched I probably did it 20 times. Yeah, so different shows
They encourage you to hate the people they keep keep asking you, like, who do you dislike the most?
Yeah, so you thought this scene was pretty accurate then, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cause you have to find somebody,
you know, you wanna get out of there.
Right.
So they tell you.
It's almost like when you confess to a murderer you didn't do.
Right, exactly, it's like that.
And also I'll say this.
It's like a jury.
People are like, how did a jury come this good?
Because there's a lot of times in juries.
They get the people to, they need somebody else
to know anything about it.
So they're not the smartest people sometimes,
because I didn't hear about OJ, not a word.
So these people who do the focus groups,
they're like, oh, well, of course they,
they don't know any, they're looking for $50.
I remember when I went down, I'm like, oh,
this is like down and out of people.
Like homeless people, not a joke.
And then I'm going, I was like, you get 50 dollars.
And all the soda you can drink, that's what you told me.
And this is the guy who's controlling network television
more or less.
And you're blaming it on, and you're taking six people's
opinion, or maybe you do one more.
But it's under 100 people. Let's see this thing. And you're gonna do people's opinion or maybe you do one more. But it's under a hundred people.
Let's see this thing.
And you're gonna do it on that.
You don't think that you as the executive
that watches all the TV,
so they're paying these executives hundreds
and hundreds of thousand dollars a year.
And their opinion is not strong enough
to put it out there and then see if it catches on or not.
It's crazy.
So.
So I believe just to go back to it. to put it out there and then see if it catches on or not. Like, it's crazy. So, so.
So, I believe just to go back to that.
It basically ruins television.
And that's why I think television's gotten better
because I don't think the Netflix and some of the other,
I don't think the news focus groups as much as.
I don't think so either.
As like ABC and NBC did.
I don't know if they still do,
but I think they're kind of a thing of the past.
Yes, but she's doing a traditional sitcom.
So I actually loved this and I've read some articles about it where so Sarah is sitting
there watching it, which would never happen.
Right.
And they're like, oh, they love Tony Danza and you know, there's an old man in this.
And then there is a non-binary queer, born woman, but non-binary now, who then just
rips into the Che character.
She's a producer or something, right?
No, she's a focus girl.
She's a focus girl.
And she says, you know, it's corny.
This aren't real experiences.
This is a bunch of dad jokes.
It's lame.
She, you know, Che's lame.
Right.
And I also thought that would be, that also is so true, that here the person that sees
himself on TV is actually like the harshest about it
because they're probably like a little bit jealous.
Like why them?
Why not me?
You know, anyways.
And also like yeah, you just wanna be heard
and then you start getting some encouragement,
you start really ripping on it.
And anyway, I read some articles where they,
or where the idea is that in writing that scene,
it was kind of the writer's feeling of what the hate that Chase character got last season was coming out in this focus group, not funny
corny, not realistic, like nothing funny.
So then the next scene is, Miranda's there trying to make Chase feel better and Chase is crying.
She says, how am I going to pay for this apartment?
Which I would have said, don't get that apartment until you get the second pickup, okay?
And then of course, dumb, dumb Miranda, who by the way, is just injuring herself right
all the time.
Yeah, why don't you become the buffoon of the of hurting herself all the time?
With the phone ringing and the Charlie horse and the free sim.
And I'm like, when did she become a Laurel and Hardy?
I feel like it's very over the top,
like buffoonery.
I was about Brooksheel said,
when she got her show suddenly Susan,
since she wasn't funny, they just were like,
you're gonna have to fall like five times in episode.
Yeah, that's what I feel like Miranda's doing now.
It's like, all right.
So anyway, another person also said,
like I think it's interesting that in the past,
like Maranna couldn't handle, like, you know, Steve getting up to take a piss yet she
will be fine with Chase, 12 comedian, friend, smoking pot all night in the room next to
her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like, be completely fine with that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that
, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that
that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that
, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, ask for. So anyway, then she cries to her and she's like,
no, this is my life. And then Miranda goes, yeah, but you'll make a better show. And this
is what I loved is she's like, you don't get it. It doesn't work that way. And it is so
true. Once you have this opportunity, and you're the first person to have the opportunity
as the non-binary comedian, at least the character of Chae Diaz was smart enough to know.
Your people aren't calling you tomorrow to pitch it to cable.
It's done.
That's stupid.
It's over.
They're not even gonna call you for anything
but to book you maybe at a club.
Like you're done.
And so I don't know.
I'm curious.
Now I kind of don't want Chae to go away though,
but I'm afraid her character might be done.
For the series.
For the series.
Because I'm like, then she says,
I need time, go away, go away.
So I don't think we're gonna see Shay much in the future.
I didn't see her in any of the upcoming previews.
I haven't seen the outcome.
I mean, I-
So, Rest in Peace.
Yeah, I'll say this.
I'm not, I don't hate this season.
No, I don't hate.
It's fine.
It's just something about it.
And I kind of felt this way even about the original segment.
Something's just always off.
And I think I narrowed it down.
Oh, tell.
Do tell.
Because the stars are good.
Yeah.
You know, they're fine.
They're not the greatest actress.
They're outside of Sarajesco Park.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, they're kind of weak actors.
Yeah.
Some of them.
But the people who are really bad are like the guest stars.
You know what I mean?
Like the security guard at the who was taking Miranda's phone.
Just like, bad acting, really bad.
Like, were they a friend of somebody?
Like, they're all...
Well, interesting that you say that because they have been recycling guest stars from season from the seasons. Yeah, and even even in the first
They're using a lot of people from the previous sexist city, but even on sexist city
They would use a guest star to play one role, you know, it's a Justin
Thoreau played Jared a successful novelist named one of New York's best coolest New Yorkers, whatever.
Then he's introduced the next season as a friend of Stanford.
Yeah.
Who then tries to woo carry.
So, and then he said, oh, well, they ran out of actors, ran out of actors in New York.
So I'm like, how lazy is this cast research?
So then the guy that, in the past episode,
she a bike hits her and the guy gets hurt.
That guy, he played a guy that was wooing Charlotte
in Sex and City.
Yeah.
And now he was in this.
I know you were saying that the one woman.
And then, yeah, Nicole Parker,
in last season of just like that,
to just last season, she's talking to just last season she's talking to
Charlotte about how much care must be hurting because she lost her husband who
died big she goes I know I lost my father last year well then the father shows
up perfectly healthy I did her and it's not my stepdad it's not anyway they
just are like I'm like is nobody doing any fact checking and it wasn't like
a season one, 15 years.
I don't know if it would be a bitch,
but I think, hey, I might have caught that.
Yeah.
I mean, it was, yeah, it's funny.
And then also some of the, those people, you know,
like, listen, I love.
Maybe this is why Sag had to go on strike
because, no, not that they were being used.
They're just going to strike line.
Just go to the strike line and get a couple of people to play.
You don't got to hire Justin Thro, three times.
Yeah, it doesn't meet it.
Yeah, so.
But it's just a little off.
So, SAG has gone on strike.
They have joined Writer's Guild.
Writer's Guild.
I liked friend Drescher's speech.
Yeah, like the president of SAG.
SAG, president of SAG, the nanny.
And so we'll see, any thoughts?
Well, I mean, there's no thoughts from me
because I'm a member of both.
I'm a WGM member of SAG member, as you are.
And, you know, so I'm more power to them.
I'm not in that world anymore because I'm not allowed.
No, nobody is called for me.
They're from, you know, to hire me for a saga, to hire me for, right, I just killed in
a minute.
Right.
But I, hopefully this will be over with, and I'll be very, for my friends that, I have
a few friends that have, I believe, some real heartbreaking things.
Jen Kirkman.
Jen Kirkman, Zoot.
Nominated for an Emmy.
Yeah, big writer of. The easman. Jen Kirkman, Zoot. Nominated for an Emmy. Yeah, big writer of a...
Basil.
And their new show coming up.
Yes, Guy Brannem is a big time writer show runner.
Alison Fowse created Actor Age.
All the friends of ours.
Yes, and now that's been put on a whole...
Everybody, I mean, yeah.
Yeah, all my...
There's so many shows and I'm like,
people kind of are age that like has,
like it's come finally they're out of place.
Right.
And now this could be a big thing.
So I hope that they can solve it quickly.
And one of the things that people are talking about
is they said for background actors,
which is also called extras, what do you call extras?
Yeah.
They're saying for the $200 day rate,
we want you to then allow us to use your image so we can do like CGI
of AI background people for the rest of the time. They would own your like. You could be dead
and you could still be. And there's obviously that's not cool, but also it's like
maybe you know maybe you did this extra work and you don't want people to know that you did
extra work 35 years for now and now
You're like don't like you and I on Wayne's world, too
Many many or two and I
Weird there be it's all of a sudden I turned out a show and I see like
22-year-old Heather in a red bathing suit walking down the beach, which is what I did in
Nine or two what oh and you're in zering like wink and I mean like I
I mean maybe that wouldn't be so bad bad But I mean I just right and then also what does that do to the work of background actors?
If we're gonna be able to a I them from today
Why would we need any new ones five and ten years?
I may need it somebody and a lot of people that is their full job
They don't want to be a star. They like the work. They enjoy going to set they bring their chair
They bring their book, the professional, and that is what they live off of.
So that's just one of the many things, but some people were confused about that.
Well, yeah, the AI thing, it seems to be, because they say, I could also write scripts and
so it's just about, will AI write a script as good, you know, who knows?
No, no, that's the thing.
Listen, I think they can do a formulaic thing,
but what you guys need that's not part of the business,
why you should, what I believe we should support the writers
and the sag actors.
Right.
Is because it's to maintain not only the industry
and the positions and the jobs, but also the art.
Right.
Like, there's not gonna be twists, there not going to be things that just blow you away.
Yeah.
If we go this route without them.
Also, not to sound like a hippie-dippy idiot here, loser, whatever, but the good thing about
art is it is I always thought was that it can't be replicated by computers.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's the joy of it.
We all know what a computer can do, but I don't know.
It just looks better when it's done by real people.
Well, I will say the things are changing.
What was the art thing that took off that now is nothing?
The photos that people could do that was digital art that was such a big deal.
Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. What was that called? I forgot. Yeah. Anyway, that's not a hit anymore.
I know. Well, here's the NFTs. NFTs. NFTs. Yeah. The other thing is, if you're a member of these
guilds, you know we struck years ago when cable first came. There were two, three networks, CBS, ABC, NBC,
maybe Fox at that time.
And cable came and we were like, this is it.
The Hollywood shutting down, cable television's gonna
kill everything.
And we worked it out somehow.
Then came DVDs and VHS.
This is gonna be a problem.
When I'm getting the proper residuals of DVDs and VHS,
we're going to die. We somehow worked that out. I feel like this is the next one,
you know, streaming and Netflix. They're working out somehow, but it's good, you know, you have
to work it out. I feel like I said, I'm out of the business, I do what I do, cover to cover,
you do what you do. I'll say this for both you and I,
who do it well, I believe, pod-catch-thing.
Yes.
Here's what's going to happen in the next couple of months
because of striking, and it doesn't get
it's gonna end anytime soon.
There's gonna be a glut of podcasts coming your way,
everybody, and we're listening to this.
Here they come.
Every person who's on,
Abit Elementary and every other.
I don't know that they'll be launching it. I think they'll be available to be guests on it.
But...
And then because I don't think, in my opinion, I don't think podcast networks are going to be
giving out the money that they gave out to Megan Merkel and a few other people these last
couple years.
It will be that.
So if they're launching it in their backyard, fine. Okay.
But I don't even know that they're going to do that. But I think they would be available to be guests on other things. But here's what's agents and managers
are going to be doing right now because they're trying to keep their jobs too. You know,
they got nothing for you. But you're an interesting, funny guy. Start a podcast. So for the
older you listen to this, you need to support the people who are good at it. Yes. Because
you think it's easy. Right. You words of people that are good at it.
You think what Heather does and what I do are easy.
It's not that easy.
And you can, listen to some of these things.
We, you know, a lot of times we're riffing
and fucking whatever we fuck up words and stuff like that.
Because it's, but what we do is the skill.
And we're entertaining.
Yes, and we're entertaining at it.
And we celebrate the content every day.
Thank you very much.
With that being said, I am going to talk to you more,
but I'm going to end this show and do some other topics
and save it for future shows.
OK.
So before we go.
Do you not want to talk about your weekend plans
that went around?
I do want to.
Let's talk about it real quick.
Yeah.
So I was home for the weekend and Peter and Drake were not there,
but I had Brandon and I went to Auschwitz, as I said,
at the Reagan Library, Highly Recommended.
Go to these things earlier in the day,
because then you walk outside and it's gorgeous
and then they're like, we're closing at five.
So you're saying, go to an earlier one.
Then I went to my country club and danced to a cover band,
which was kind of a weird thing to do right after Auschwitz.
It's like a sad story.
I'm kind of like, can't believe people lived through it.
And then I danced with Brandi and Julie and Liz to a cover band.
And so then I was like, well, I talked to Sarah.
And you know, she's very sad about the passing of her dad
and her husband was at town.
And I'm like, should we get together one of our pools this week?
I would just like to do that and she's like, yeah, maybe, you know, whatever.
So then I write both of you guys and you go, I can do it Sunday.
I fly home Saturday, I can do it Sunday.
Right.
I thought when you wrote that, I forgot that you were in Montauk
and I thought you were coming from some sad gig.
No.
And you would have been down to have us come over Sunday.
I would have. Then I talked to Dr. Drew and Susan Penske and Dr. Drew's coming
people he's coming so be excited for that. And we're going to do a show.
Okay. And then I said, what are you guys doing? And we're just in our backyard and they have a
beautiful house in Pasadena. And they're like, would you like to come over? And I go,
well, I kind of made plans with let me see. Let me see what I can do.
So then you're like, it's Beckett's birthday, we're going to just chill at the house.
So then I tell Susan, I'm going to be totally honest, Susan.
I think I'm going to go to Chris's maybe, you know, passing me in like an hour away.
And so I, I don't even know if he wants us, but you go invite other people, have your own
party and she did already go buy some noodles.
Like, oh, you got some noodles
and then she ran out and bought noodles
and then I didn't even come.
Noodles for like the pool.
Like the tubes, you know,
just like, hey, on a noodle.
But then you went to eat.
No.
But she also bought barbecue stuff.
And so then I was like,
I don't wanna be the only one you're like serving, you know?
And so then the next day I wake up
and you're like, we just got home. Beckett's gonna be cr serving, you know? And so then the next day I wake up and you're like, we just got home,
Beckett's gonna be grow, you know, grow, gee.
Like, I didn't realize you were flying home
from a two week trip with your child.
The fact that you ever even considered wanting
to have someone come over Sunday,
even if your flight was perfect is stupid.
Yeah, no.
You should have said no right then and there.
And I said it in a very nice way.
I was like, no worries, no pressure. Right, you did. said no right then and there and I said it in a very nice way I was like no worries no pressure, right? You did so then I had but I would have had you just you over yes
Would have been fine, but yesterday said no, I know because see you Monday because it felt very firm
Well, I'm around the corner. Let me tell you why
Because we were on the air we're runway Kennedy yeah leaving. Yeah, you get on the plane
You're like all right, we're taking off,
and then it was like a two hour wait,
you know, whatever the air traffic control, blah, blah, blah.
Then we're like, oh, to get through that.
And then we land at LAX.
Yeah.
And it's another like hour on the runway.
And my daughter's peeing her pants,
is, you know, wildness.
Yeah.
Don't we get shit at it?
Remember that story about the woman
they made her pick up popcorn off the ground?
Yeah, you felt like you're there.
You had to see our seats after it was over.
I mean, it looked like an encampment.
Listen, you shouldn't have people
over after a day like that.
And their choice just chill.
That's what we did.
At Delight Floss, I am.
You don't need to see me, okay?
We chilled.
So then I told Susan, I go, I'm out, she goes, nobody,
she goes, nobody else could come,
but we still would like to have you.
I go, just go skinny dip with Drew,
you guys are like horny, just go have a fun time without me,
like I can't.
Yeah. And so that was my thing, that's how it turned out.
So, but then I had Liz and her son come earlier in the day
and then I had another one of my friends
and her son, both Brandon friends come.
So I had two small pool gathering at my own house.
Yeah, oh good.
And so it all worked out.
I enjoyed my backyard in Wonder Hills this weekend.
Speaking of Drew and Susan being horny,
just going back to, and just like that.
Now I don't want to sound ages,
because I'm old too, but I'm a little bit,
it does make me uncomfortable to see Evan Hanley
getting a hand job and trying to come on
what's her face.
That at really bothered me.
It's a lot.
And I don't want to be that person.
The penis pump with the realtor girl,
that felt very old school sex of the city,
very much what would happen to Kim Katrial.
And I didn't hate that storyline.
I thought, yeah, and I thought she was honest like, hey, I'll deal with it.
You know, at least she's kind of funny and there isn't much out there.
I thought that was pretty good.
Yeah, yeah.
But we are watching Evan Hamler pretend to have the calm.
And his wig.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Chris, Besides being with me
Uh-huh coming up in the with the shows. We're doing those shows. We're doing those shows
We're doing stand-up or live juicy scoop. We're doing stand-up. Oh good. Fine
But you know, it's kind of I and then in in then in Sacramento and San Francisco
I think I will have an element of the juicy scoop stuff with the photos and stuff, but just trust me guys.
You can bring your husband,
you do not need to know about any of this stuff.
We make it funny.
Yeah.
For both, just the show will be me.
I had a blast in that same,
I haven't seen you see Sandy Ego.
I'm like that week.
That show was so fun.
Because we're doing, both of us are doing very topical,
fresh, funny stuff
So just come to the show. Do you have anything else you want to promote?
Please like tomorrow and
San Antonio
L.O.L.
Well tomorrow on Tuesday and no Wednesday Wednesday. I'm at L.O.L. comedy. Let me just give you let me tell you
L.O.L. comedy club San Antonio Wednesday night and I fun shows that is a great club
Then I move on to Cap City in Austin.
Capable City comedy club in Austin.
That's on Thursday night, the 20th and then the 21st.
I'm in Houston at the house of blues.
Sexy.
And then August 9th, right before I meet you,
I'm at comedy works in Denver on a Wednesday night, August 9th.
Denver comedy works south.
You know the one out there.
Yeah, no, but that's one I always plan.
I love that one.
I love that one.
So I'm doing it one night only.
That's it.
You are going to kill.
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