Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Serial Siblings, Con Women, Vanderpump Predictions with Scott Nathan

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

I give all the fun details of my weekend with Spencer, Chris, and Justin. Thank you to everyone who came to my show in Las Vegas!  You can still enjoy the event streamer at home for the next few days. Then I get into Teresa’s wedding and why the RHONJ reunion is going to be epic. From Pizza Gate to divorcing your brother, I quickly cover the season.  I am going on tour! Get tickets at https://heathermcdonald.net/ I give my prediction of what the Vanderpump reunion reveal will be. What is fair to share when regarding a real housewife? Whose divorce is worse, Kim vs. Kroy or Lisa vs. Lenny? Then Scott Nathan, photographer to the stars, is here to share a crazy con woman story. Did you know Billionaires buy fake wine and counterfeit wine? Well, after today’s show, you will and so much more. Enjoy! Get extra juice on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop/posts https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop/featured Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald/ Follow me on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Follow Scott on Instagram: @scottnathanphoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Woo, woo, and a McDonald. Juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. I have a great show for you today. I've got one of your return favorites now. Scott Nathan. He has all the best Hollywood stories. Didn't interview with him last week.

But first, I got to fill you in on my fun weekend in Las Vegas and some juicy stuff that's happened since with our favorite juicy topics. So let's get into it. First of all, I hope you had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. I know I did. We went to Las Vegas for my live show. I know many of you got the streamer from moment house

And you're still have a few days to enjoy it and it was really so fun. So I had Okay, I had So Brandon has finals coming up. So Peter stayed with Brandon and I had the next best thing my son Drake drive us So the two of us drove. And we decided to drive versus going to take, you know, Southwest or whatever, just because honestly I like just having a lot of bags, I'm disorganized, I have badges,

I have stuff for the VIP, it makes it so easy to put it in the car. But it's been more all day weekend in Las Vegas. So we were a little freaked out that there'd be a lot of traffic. No, it was fabulous. God in the car got our coffee by 730. We rolled up at the Venetian by 1130.

I mean, I'm sorry. Like I don't think there's anything that gets me wetter than when I wake up and realize that I've slept for more than eight hours or when you beat a time time from LA to Las Vegas. So, it's so great because we're at the Venetian, and being that I'm performing there, you get some great perks when you get to perform there. One being we get to check into the VIP lounge.

So that's really great because they have free waters there. And if you've been listening to me for a while, you know Peter has a real contention about us ever taking anything from the mini bar, which every hotel, especially in Las Vegas, there's like a sensor. So even if you took it, and then it was like, you know what, I don't think I need this little beer,

this half bottle wine. If you put it back too bad, it's on your bill. So I'm like, okay, so we got some waters, I got a free latte. Then we had a little bit of time. So Drake and I'm like, okay, so we got some waters, I got a free latte. Then we had a little bit of time. So Drake and I got a cute lunch and then went back, our room was fabulous. I had my room on my side, we had a whole living room and then Drake had his room on his side. And then Justin and his boyfriend, Evan came over and Chris and we had like little cocktail hour, a little voove. Then we went to Mont 32, which wow amazing juicy scooper Don Brit hooked me up

with that and I loved that meal but it was pricey. So pricey that they don't tell you the price. And one of the things was this absolutely delicious lobster that is a lobster from Australia that besides having an accent, it also doesn't have any claws, which is weird. Anyway, so the bill comes and I don't have my readers, so I give it to my son Drake. And I go, I think, part of it's comp or whatever. And Drake is like, oh my god, mom. The lobster is so expensive. And I'm like, luckily the guy came right over

and he goes, no, no, no, this is, you know, this is on us. So we, we tip the guy and we left. The next morning Drake was like, mom, the anxiety I felt, like because the Peter gene is so strong. And I mean, he was like that lobster for the cost of that lobster, they was like that lobster for the cost of that lobster. They was given the first classic from Australia because when he told me I was like, wow, but I have to say it was beyond delicious.

And then we had a duck that they like carved up. We all ate it. It was so good. Okay. So then Justin and Evan go off to like an oh show at Bellagio and they have fun. Drake goes back to the room and I'm friendly with Hannah Burner. She was performing at the win across the way. So we were, Chris and I were able to see the last end of her show and she was traveling alone. She didn't have any friends there. The husband, she's just like on tour.

So that was so fun. So we went over to Delilah's which is a really fun place in the win, which is kind of like, it's sort of like a speakeasy, like you feel like you walked into the great Gads, but it's really fun. And so we had some drinks there and headed back. And this is what I love when I do a Las Vegas show because I stay for two nights,

but I only have a show one. Because when I have the show, then that whole day I'm really focused on the show. So Saturday starts and we go to Lava for brunch. Oh my God, the brunch is ridiculous at Lava. Had lunch, brunch there with my friend Mike who is a Vegas resident and works in hospitality. He's great.

So we had our food there. Then we go over to our cabana, where they hooked me up again. This is the nicest cabana I've ever been in my life. It was like an apartment. It had a bathroom full air conditioning, so that was great. So I was able to go over the topics with Justin and Chris there while we had some like tacos and stuff. And then Spencer arrives with his dad because Heidi ended up staying home with the kids. And the dad was so sweet, so they have fun,

we have fun with them, and then get ready for the show. So I get all cute, I have a great, you know, you know me with my shorts and my blazers. And I've never, until last year, ever wore naked legs on stage until last year was the first time I did it. Because I always thought as a young female comedian that like that's too sexy, these little chicken legs will like distract people from my jokes. And now that I'm like how many more years do I have left to even show these chicken legs? Now I'm like I am showing them in a shorts and blazer combo from Alice in Olivia and just really

feeling myself. And I loved doing the show, we had so much fun. I screwed it up a little bit. I brought out Spencer, you know, I brought out Chris and Chris was the closer and we had all these fun videos that are like scraped from the internet from when we were on Chelsea lately that we rediscovered and I was able to play in the live show.

So that was really fun and of course had some juice. So that was all great. And then on the way home, we charged our Tesla and went to Prem, which is so depressing. It's just like about 30 minutes from the strip. And there's like a sad roller coaster that I don't think a roller, I don't think a coaster or whatever you call it, like the little ride, I don't think it's worked in like 15 years. And it just is just a vibe of just like, wow, what the hell is this?

Like, nobody's working there. It's just like one lone person by themselves. And, but kinda interesting to go look at. So we get going and it was my anniversary weekend, 23 years. It's always been Memorial Day weekend. So I come home, Peter did give me a beautiful orchid purchased at Target.

And Raven was, I don't know that she was thrilled to see me. I felt like Ariana coming home from my grandmother's funeral and to only find out that Rachel's been hanging out with Tom Sanabal a weekend and she's like, Hi, how is your trip? So sorry for you. It was so that we were here and I am recording this now and I'm excited to enjoy the Memorial Day a little bit. Ross Matthews is coming over. Ross is going to be on soon on the show and Sarah is going to be Wednesday and it's all good. I was supposed to have Brandi and Julie last week but for Brandi's little Pee Wee has gone on to heaven after 23 years of life.

So they'll be coming back soon but it was so much fun. Had the best time and really like a seamless weekend. And I also want to say, not that crowded for Memorial Day weekend. And apparently it's because the weekend before, there was the, what was that like a music festival, electric music, electric parade, what, oh, EDM. And I guess every happening person goes to that. So it was like a very chill restaurants were not crowded.

Oh, we went to Villa Azur after the show. And it was a pretty loud music. And we were dancing and just having a blast. And it's just super fun. So just beginning to end, so fun, so great. OK, so now I want to get into Real Housewives of New Jersey. I am so excited for the reunion tonight, you guys. If you have not seen the trailer,

if you have not watched this a season, this is going to be epic. It's going to be crazy. They are the clips from this thing are like chills, I'm scared. So as you know, if you've been listening to Juicey Scoop, Theresa, who's the star of the show, has married to this guy, Louis now.

After her son, her husband of many years, showed you dice they got divorced after he came back from prison, he lives in the Bahamas because he is an Italian citizen. Even though he's been here since he was one month old, he never got around to getting his papers, not too bright of a thing to do, but whatever. So she marries Louis and we got to see the special,

the wedding special this past week. And I did kind of enjoy, I really do, kind of like enjoy watching the special. I don't know why she had burlesque dancers and like naked people dancing while Jennifer Aiden's daughter was there. I thought that was kind of weird. But hey, it's her wedding. And if they're like this hot sexy couple, he's like one and a half sex. I think they have a lot of sex. And then he, but people in his family like his brother and his dad, they gave speeches about how

loyal Teresa is. And he used the word a lot too. Loyal, loyalty, loyalty. And he had a couple people that were from his famous video of when I guess a couple of years ago, when he was engaged to somebody else, he went to this like Christian man, empowerment kind of a thing through this inspirational speaker who, and

podcaster named Garrett White, who lives out there. And he gave this video to his fiance at the time saying, I'm going to make it better. I want to marry you. And all these guys behind them are like, this is the kind of stand-up man you have to be like change. Anyway, that video got out and before, you know, I met obviously, I now I've met Theresa and Louis when I was in St. Bart's, but before all of that, I happened to be on my weekend with my girlfriends for my birthday and I made them do a reenactment of it. And I got to find it and like repost it because I, it's pretty hilarious. And they had to stand behind me,

and none of my friends are actresses or anything. And I acted like I was pleading to Peter to be a better wife, and then I was gonna stop making such boring chicken and stop buying black shoes, and just really try to come up with some new sexual positions. Just try to make it the best wife I can. Anyway, so there were some of those guys there,

but he kept saying loyalty, loyalty, loyalty, which some people felt was a little bit disturbing, but is that an Italian thing? But he's Louis not an Italian, but obviously Teresa has wants to stand by her man. So the wedding, the hair is huge, he even looked up to it. I love that they were honest about it. When I met him, he's like, you're your communion. What did you think of Teresa's hair? And I said I

Think she let her hairdresser. I think she told her what she wanted I think the hairdresser went too far and by the time it was done She was probably already late walking down the aisle and if you have 1500 bobby pins in your hair There's no going back. There's no turning back. And who cares? It's funny. Got great press. It's very Teresa, whatever. So now in the reunion, we're going to see Melissa and Teresa go out at Joe and Louis go out at and at the clip that I'm seeing is Teresa says to Melissa, her sister-in-law, clip that I'm seeing is Teresa says to Melissa, her sister-in-law, I'm happy never to see your face again. Something like that. So they said they're not picking up cameras yet for New Jersey. They

don't know what's going on with that. They normally would be like ready to start filming. So everyone is speculating, are they keeping Teresa and Louis? Are they keeping Melissa and Joe? Are they all just going to come back and film together or are they gonna split the two shows? What's gonna happen because it looks like they're really are done. And I just wanna say, oh, I did see someone did something,

send me something interesting about Italian men. And in some Italian families, not all, some. It's like this rule where like in a man's life, his mom comes first, then his sister, then his kids, then his wife. And I don't believe Joe Gorgah had his priorities like that. But God, if you are one of those women and you're number four, and you've been married to this guy for 20 years,

like Melissa, that would be pretty annoying not to get the respect from the rest of the family and you're like fourth on the list. I don't know, I'm not Italian. This is just what an Italian person sent me. So, and I have seen stuff where like a brother and a sister in an Italian family have this weird dynamic and the sister is like more,

is really always like the matriarcher, the family, even if the guy has a wife. But then I've also heard from Italians, and I think Teresa even said it once. What is it? A daughter is your daughter for life. A son is your son telling meets his wife. So I don't know, but listen, these two,

I think have to take a serious break, if not forever. And I also want to say as someone who, you know, have talked about adult sibling abusive relationships in which you have to break off all communications with your sibling as an adult, I think that needs to be more normalized. Because why isn't that everybody is not critical of someone who gets divorced? Here, you made a commitment to be with this person, you had children with this person, and now you get divorced.

Obviously, nobody has a problem with divorced people, but people have such a problem when you wanna cut off ties with your mother or your father or your sibling. Why? You don't even have children in the that person. This relationship you were forced into and just because you both came down the same vaginal tunnel and lived in the same house for maybe 15 years of your shared

life together, now you're 50 and you hate each other, you don't have to keep seeing each other. You don't. It makes it harder when a paycheck's involved and when the whole world is watching and the whole world is giving their advice. But even with cousins, even if the cousins don't hang afterwards, they each have their own sibling family, they all are successful people. I don't think it's the end of the world. I'd like to see them all still remain on TV. I wouldn't even know what to say to Bravo on how to fix this.

I'm curious to see what they're going to do with it. Speaking of Bravo, I think it's kind of interesting, and I thought about this the other day. And he has another book coming out, a lot of juices leaking it, people are buying it, and enjoying it. It's called The Daddy Diaries, and I guess it's about him being a young dad. But of course, he gets a lot of inside juice

about his own relationships with housewives. And what I think is interesting is that if he has a personal relationship with a housewife, you know, just about their personal life or personal conversation or about negotiation, salary, why they are put on pause, why they might come back, any advice he has with them, any one of those, all those conversations,

he can write in his book, and the housewife is not gonna be pissed about it because she's helping to come back to Bravo. But if a housewife shares anything about salary, negotiation, anything that Bravo doesn't like, whether it's on their own podcast, my podcast, on the red carpet, in an interview, they could get in a lot of trouble with Bravo,

they get scolded, they oftentimes get fined, or worse, they get put on pause or fired forever. I just find that kind of a bit of a double standard. And just something that, I don't know, that's really been pointed out. Don't play Mandy for it. Hey, I share about my life. He has every right to share it.

I just think it's a little, maybe have a critical being that every housewife now has multiple platforms and multiple streams of income as they should. They all have merch, they all have a podcast. They're all trying to do live shows, whatever that might be, whether they're stripping, dancing, singing, answering questions, whatever. And you got to make your money way, you got to make it because it's not going to last forever.

And that's always been my advice. So I don't begrudge anybody for doing anything like that. A lot of people are still confused about pizza gate. So let me explain from my knowledge and my understanding. I actually heard about this idea from a friend, was told to keep it a secret. She didn't know if it was gonna come out on the show or not, but I was like, ooh, it was a couple years ago, and it was when Theresa was dating Louie,

but they were engaged. And Joe had a business idea for them to do together, for him and Theresa to do together. At this time, they're all getting along and he liked Louis very much and liked Louis for Teresa and there's episodes where he says that. So there was no issue with that. And he has this idea, which I thought was a pretty great idea when my friend told me, you get these like portable pizza ovens.

And then you have like a subscription where like dough and ingredients will come every month. So it comes right to your door and you're build monthly and you can have this great pizza. And the pizza ovens were already existing. Another company had them, which there's controversy as would this business ever been able to do it

because they didn't create the pizza oven They were already in existence But Melissa had a cousin that had worked in the business or something that person gets all the pizza ovens in which Louis allegedly spent $250,000 getting the inventory Then somehow inventory. Then somehow he decides Louis says, I don't think that No Knows Pizza is a great name. You have the book. Teresa has Skinny Italian Skinny this. He's got like four books with Skinny in it, cookbooks. It should be called Skinny Italian Pizza, something like that. And they did a photo shoot with Teresa and the girls to get this launch to get funding.

I don't know. Joe Gorga allegedly finds out that they did a photo shoot without him, without Melissa, without, I don't know, without the kids or certainly without him. And he's like, well, I put up all the money, Louis said. So you'll still be part of the business, but we like this name better than No-No-Speezza, and I'll give you 10% of the business. And Joe got very upset by that because it was his idea to start. And then Teresa got upset because she was like, oh my God, why did we even get in business

with my brother? Now this might affect my relationship with this guy. I really love. And Louis just said, forget it. I don't want you fighting with forget it, I don't want you fighting with your brother, I don't want to be fighting with your brother, kill the deal, I don't care that I lost money, that's it. And so people say, people are saying, so the rifts of their relationship doesn't have that much to do with the pizza thing because it never went. Neither people, no person benefited from it,

and it died. I don't know where these pizza ovens are, apparently, they present one to Andy at the reunion. But what Theresa told me is that the oven made a very thin crust pizza. So the skinny Italian name was a much better marketing idea than no-nose pizza, I agree. Anything that's like, hey, you'll get skinny,

I think people want to buy. So there's that. Just thought that was interesting. And then of course with the rumors, then they fight about the rumors. And it's so weird because there's been so many storylines, especially in New Jersey, that just start from a rumor. Teresa said she heard a rumor about,

Jackie's husband go into the gym and hook it up with girls or something at the gym or whatever. That was never proven to be true. Where did she hear the rumor? She never says but she said it and became a plot line. Sometimes small daily actions really make a big difference especially when it comes to caring for your hair. A little goes a long way. Yes, I am loving my way products. So whether your hair is fine, medium or thick, or whether you're looking for volume, shine, or hydration, their shampoo and conditioners are made to really give your strands exactly what they need.

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and then they got together and they've been married for years. She was always bringing up to Mars and they were getting long. So then Mars brought up the fact that Bill Aiden had an affair before they were either of them were on the show. Again, that wasn't a rumor, but she brought up something on camera that we never saw on camera. But juicy, all cheating. This latest thing is the story was and it's confusing, that allegedly Margaret told, no, allegedly this person, saw Melissa in a car making out with a guy.

This person told Margaret, then Margaret told this girl Laura, who's been trying to get on the show forever, but never made it. Then Laura told Teresa and Jennifer Aiden are maybe just trees. If a Jennifer Aiden and Teresa know, Teresa tells Louie about it. Louie says, Joe Gorgah come to my house, I have something to tell you. He tells Joe Gorgah. Melissa supposedly was making out with some guy, and Joe Gorgah says he didn't just say something like he said lots of guys.

Joe Gorgah doesn't believe it comes home and tells Melissa, and they're like, we're just telling you because it might come out on the show, but we won't bring it up on the show. Melissa, Teresa, and then we won't bring it up on the show. Melissa, Teresa and Lou, we won't bring it up on the show. But then Jennifer Aiden blurted it out on camera to the new girl. I can't remember her name, the new blonde girl, the new blonde girl then on the final party goes and tells Melissa, everyone's talking about how you made up, it made out with some guy in a car. Melissa goes, I already know about this because Joe and, no, because Joe told me that Teresa did this and then, I suppose, Lee, Gia called Joe and said, divorce, Melissa, you could do better. She says, I've never said that. What could have happened is, Gia could have said, you deserve better Joe.

Uncle Joe, if this is true. But she did, there's no text messages of Gia saying that. It was a phone call. Anyway, so they both feel like the other has never supported them being on the show, have always been trying to tear them down. And we're also going to see on the reunion that there's some accusation from Theresa thinking

that Joe and Melissa had something to do with the FBI going after her and Joe Judice, which would be pretty horrific if that was ever proven. So to fill you guys in, that's why you should probably watch that tonight. And as far as the latest on the Vanderpump, we're almost to the tail end. But Joe, but sorry, Tom Santaval was just witnessed on the phone, where a fan took a

photo, and he's on the phone talking to and it says, Rock Kell, Vask was whatever her name is, what is Rock Kell's name? I don't even know her last name, but it says Rock Kell's last name on the phone. So, you know, and she and her family came out saying they were getting death threats and therefore had to call the FBI. So we know they called the FBI,

but did Melissa and Joe call the FBI? Chris Jenner, this is a case for the FBI. FBI has a lot more important things to do, okay? They should be breaking down like pedophile rings and sex trafficking and things like that. But anyway, they got to see what weirdo DMed Raquel and said, you're a bitch, you need to die. I don't know. Not that anyone deserves that.

I would hope that she still is all a hiatus from her phone and social media for her own mental health, which she said she's working on. Okay, and I think I've covered it all, you guys. Oh, Kim and Cory are having the worst divorce. They allegedly want the other to suffer so much. They, Kim is trying to sell her wigs for 2700. They're selling all these clothes on Kim's closet. She's in talks to get back on Real House Res of Atlanta, which of course we all want to see. That's a set payday,

but I've set it before my God. I think she could be doing a separate documentary, but they'll, but if she's talking to them, they're probably like, you can't do something in the interim. But wow, if we, if I was Atlanta, I'd be like, we're gonna get a whole nother crew. You are gonna be on the real housewives of Atlanta. We're gonna get a whole nother crew. We're gonna pay you per week that we get to film with you starting today. And whether we use this footage on real housewives of, or not, you're gonna get $10,000 a week, but we need to see you selling your wigs. We need to see you talking to your lawyers. We need to see everything you're saying to your daughters. The fact that you want to get Corey's hair tested because you think he smokes too much weed.

We want to hear if you're gonna go and gambling anonymous. How are you responding to the fact that you gamble all the time? And he has the receipts and he's posting about it like, please when the vanpump thing scandal happened with Stasi and even Jackson, Kristen, when that whole thing happened, I would have loved if they could have scandal in the show and we could have seen

the cameras that day. That is what we wanna see. That is what the fans wanna see is, what happens when everything goes to shit. Meanwhile, Lenny and Lisa of Miami also horrible divorce. He's claiming that he came into the home where she still lives and went into the bedroom where she always leaves the mail and then she came running out from her closet, screaming at him and physically hit him. And but then he said she called 911

and said that he was the aggressor. The cops come, neither one was arrested, but then he goes and gets an expartee or whatever, asking for immediate custody of the children in which he would live in the home with the children because she's so irrational and she needs to leave the $50 million house and he's going to move in there with the kids.

While she goes and he'll find her in nice apartment somewhere in London in Miami. I mean, he says she's bleeding him financially and he also said that she put listening devices in his car. Hopefully they have cameras filming this all in Miami right now that I am not aware of. Also, on Vanderpump rules, people are showing clips of there was a scene between Randall and James at some party, and this is like two seasons back. And you see Raquel and SantaVall having major chemistry,

major moment, major flirting behind, lots of moments like that. So most people believe the big reveal that's going to happen at the end, the conclusion of the reunion is that it is come forth, whether it's for a color someone else, that there were, that she and Sanneval had some kind of a relationship prior to the bone after Guy's Night.

Like maybe it wasn't full on boning, but maybe it was secret conversations, maybe it was just making out. It's that happened a long time ago, and it's also gonna, I think, be revealed that certain other cast members know as well. Lisa Vanerpump has claimed on Twitter, absolutely not true.. I never knew.

And then all, but we know Schwartz now knew for, since August, but did he know prior to that, you know, was that was she actually trying to get back at Schwartz? I mean, we're going to, or it could just be a lot of hype so that we don't get bored of it. And we stay engaged for the next couple of weeks. I don't know the answer. That I do not know the answer to, but my guess is that the relationship, no matter how sexual or not sexual was,

there was some inappropriate relationship happening between Raquel and Sandevol, like probably starting about like a year and a half ago or two years ago. All right, now you guys, we have more with Scott Nathan, photographer to the stars and so much more. Get ready for some fun Hollywood stories. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I am back for the second time with Scott Nathan,

photographer, friend to every single person invited to every single Hollywood party. Scott, welcome back. Thank you. It's good to be back. How has your life changed since you've become famous from being on Juicy Scoop? Do tell. Well, I'm someone who's spent my life hiding behind cameras so I didn't have to be in front of them. And now I'm with relative frequency, I'm getting recognized a lot. And what do they say to you? The juicy scoopers.

Because I know you get recognized from your TikToks too, but I just want to hear about the juicy scoopers. Well, people will come in, they'll be like, I saw you on juicy scoop. I was sitting having a meeting with a friend who's actually a pretty big travel influencer. And this girl comes over and she goes, fucking love you. And I like gesture to over and she goes, fucking love you.

And I, and I like gesture to Sarah, and she goes, not her you. And she's like, I love you from juicy scoop. And I was like, wait, thank you. What are you? She's like, am I bothering you? And I'm like, no, no, my favorite subject is myself. Give me two. Yeah.

And she's just like, uh, yeah, I'm the florist here. And it was at this cafe in Hollywood. Who they so flowers and other things too, so that was cool. And then here's a look at amazing ones. So I'm downtown at the Mayan Theater, going to see a Brazilian jazz concert, and with my friend and his girlfriend. And we're in line for Will Call,

and this lady cop comes over to me and she's like big, and doesn't seem very friendly. And she goes, what do I know you from? I said, I don't know, I'm nobody. And she goes, what do you do? I said, I'm just a photographer. Do you want a TV? I said, I am not on TV. She goes, I never forget a face. This is not good. Like it feels very aggressive. And she's a police officer. Yeah, yeah. LA cop. And then she goes, I, and then she walks away. And then she comes back and she goes, police officer. Yeah, LA cop. And then she goes, all right. And then she walks away. And then she comes back and she goes,

I do know you're the mother fucking sugar coach on TikTok and I go, I am. And she goes, I fucking love you. And she fizz bumps me. And then my friend's girlfriend, who's been a soap star for 26 years. She says, she says, I've been on a network television show for 26 years.

I've never once been recognized in LA. You've been on TikTok for 10 minutes and everybody knows you. I don't understand this. Amazing. OK, so I love following you. I love having you on the show. What is it about you? Do you go out every single night of your life?

Why do you get invited to everything? What is it about you? I don't. I rare. There was a time, my 20s, my 30s, to a lesser extent, my 40s that I did not miss the opening of an envelope. You know, I was out 300 nights a year. Now, like, unless you're paying me or it's something amazing, I'm not, I'm not paying for. And is the am, am I, not to be rude, but a May and Brazilian concert to me. I mean, the my and theater Brazilian concert,

why is that so appealing? I do, I'm just gonna be honest. It's like, to me that just, it sounds like a fake thing that you see in movies. Like, whenever you see a movie thing, it's always like walking to like an art exhibit. I've like been to, I know you're an artist, but like I really have not been to many

like art gallery nighttime But they're always featured in movies a book reading always featured in a movie. I don't I don't even know if there exists anymore I don't bookstores don't exist anymore, but I'm like what is it about this? I do love I do love our shows Okay, because you're the big ones the tier one gallery ones that but it's also the crowds really fun And you'd like to go to like the gojins and the house are unworth and the plum and pose those big, you know I don't even know any of those names, but if cuz I want to invite speed They're the well also people say I'm very thirsty. I'm always inviting myself to things. Well, let's go

They're fun, so but music that's my that's my weak spot. I will go I love the tribalism of concerts so much that I will go to I will go see bands that I don't even like for the spectacle of it and Okay, good and then tribalism at all I remember one week in college. I went to like Judas Priest Megadeth the three tenors and Barry Manelow I love concerts. I just love concerts. That's great. Okay. And I think to answer your, the first question, how do I end up at them?

I think, I think it's just because this stuff, people like to have me along as a plus one because I can hold my own because I can tell stories. And I'm also like a cactus. Like, like famous people will bring me to their to their premiere Knowing that they there's I require no care and feeding you go on the red carpet do all your press ditch me By the time you're at the other end of the red carpet. I'll have all new friends And speaking of all these friends in all your stories. It's it's you know this person in this person how many people do honestly text and communicate with on a weekly basis that are friends?

Because it seems like it's got to be at least like 40. No, it's like a handful, but I've been kicking around this town a long time. You build the collection, and you have to realize that the vast majority of people, I knew them before they were famous Okay, you know like I as you know I met Katie Perry on the sidewalk because she couldn't get into General Marbond And I was like me and my girlfriend were drunk and we're like yeah, she's with us come on in and You know and seat of auntie's is a dear friend like I knew her She was literally a stripper in Orange County

who was doing really cool burlaz. And I met her on a shoot, one of my very first shoots for Playboy. It was called Stripser, when we were shooting strippers, family. Speaking, oh, really? Speaking of Deed of Antise. That was such like a, you know, a thing that we'd see

and should be featured in reality shows. she's gorgeous and she's in a shampain glass or whatever. Like, is that still happening? Does she still do that? She's still for globally. She'll go, she'll go sell out weeks at a theater size venue. Oh, it's so cool. She's, she's really, I mean, there are other burlesque stars, but it reminds me of an old Jerry Garcia quote where it says it's not enough to be the best at what you do. It must be perceived that you are the only one that does what you do. Oh, that is a good quote.

Yeah, and I spent, what day is today, Tuesday, I spent Sunday with her. I hadn't seen her in a while. We hadn't really caught up in a while and I went over to her house and we hung out and shot the shit and I was so not read into what she's been up to. And she's like, you should find my Taylor Swift video, right? I think you could say Taylor Swift video.

She's like, yeah. And she's like, what I really liked about Taylor was that, she said, Taylor said, everybody knocks you off. Everyone bites your style, your look, copies your costumes. I want you to be in a video where we're doing your thing and I am you know giving you full credit and I went home and I watched the video and it's the Martini glass with both of them synchronized spinning in the Martini glass and squeezing the olive all over each other and the jewel dresses and it's nice when people do that. When people recognize that you were

the original too I think and acknowledge it yeah most people do the past so you know good artists far out great artists feel yeah so that was nice for it yeah yeah it looks a big way so now you have never been married no and no children no but you have great dating stories and it seems like you've dated a variety of interesting women. So I would like to hear some of these interesting stories and how you and how some of these women are quite wealthy that you date. What is that like when you date someone really wealthy? It's a handful.

Nothing's free-hether. Yeah. So what tell me about, there was a story about a girl that was into the horses. I always thought about, I thought at one point, I would be in a position to become a late in life a question, a questioner, a questioner. But then I'm very scared of falling off a horse and, you know, getting crippled. Yeah, you should be. So I do like the outfits though.

So do I like the cause? I started taking polo lessons a few years ago just because I was just like a wearing white denim in a jersey and swinging a mallet around and looking, you know, like, like some Mayflower guy. Yeah. What, what, what was the end of my polo career as was a few times in your, I'm left handed. You're not allowed to play polo lefty oh you know like why can I just do it they're like think about it if two people are

kind of riding toward each other going after the same ball and you're right handed I'm left handed we kill each other with the mallet oh okay so it's like it would be like you're right handed oh I am I'm right handed yes I'd be like oh let's play tennis you have to play lefty it's like not possible i never went to any i've never been to a i've only been to one polo party just recently out where cacola is and that and that was fun and i was like i think the only time i ever saw it was in pretty woman

but never went to it only like sought and movies and stuff really cool game i think and it's It's a really cool game, I think. And it's incredibly dangerous. You know, it has a higher fatality rate than Formula One. God. All right, so tell me about this equestrian lady. OK, so this equestrian lady was a lady I met on Raya, like at the beginning of Raya.

And she's a hedge fund manager. Was she around your age older, younger? A few years younger than me. OK. And like, you know, like a, you know, like a rich kid. And I saw we had a couple of friends in common. And my cousin went to school with her at that there. I'm like, that they're Ivy League school and that East Coast. Okay. Because I you might like her. She's kind of fun. She's a little spoiled, but, you know, blah, blah. So we ended dating and, uh, and she's got tons of horses. These these championship

breeding horses, hunter jumpers, born blood. This is all more than blankish to me too. I'm looking at her as blankly as you're looking at me. Yeah. So she goes all I want you to come see my horses and so we drive out to this like standing in that area. And you can not tell anybody where these horses are. And I'm like no one I know cares where your horses are. She's like no people would steal these horses. No horse these horse thieves are still a thing. So she goes don't go near that horse. And I go and I go why how many horses are we talking that she owns?

A dozen or so. Oh my God. Oh my God. With barns and these and these barns are decorated way nicer than my house. These are like beautiful, like squizz it, you know, but they look like Ralph Lauren made them. So, um, so she goes, this horse's name is, uh, his nickname is Patzodoro, which is Italian for the Golden Cock. And I go, what do you call that? And she goes because his sperm is worth a fortune. is Patzodoro, which is Italian for the Golden Cock. And I go, what do you call that?

And she goes because his sperm is worth a fortune. This horse literally comes diamonds and burraries. Because any baby that any little calf that he makes, what do you call a little horse? A foe? A pony. No. She got, I go, what do you call a horse?

She's like a pony? It's not a pony. She's like a foe, right? Oh, I don't know anyway So if you make one that one's gonna be so everyone takes the top of the food chain They buy their sperm in these straws and they cost tens of thousands dollars. So So I'm so bored. It's just you know these jumping things Around and around circles. There's no dudes there. All it's all women and they're really passionate.

So I'm really exhausted. So I just, I decided to step outside and smoke and this older gray hair gentleman pulls up at a green-assed Martin and he goes, oh, you're new. He's a world of guys. He goes, oh, you really are new. I go, I go, you don't come to these? He goes, no, we pay for all of it.

We come to none of it. And let me tell you something. I don't know who your girlfriend is, but she will never love you the way she loves her horses. I said, dude, I figured that one out on the first day. And so the event, and she's walking me around introducing me to people, and she's introducing me this little Mexican guy.

And I said, this is Octavio. And I said, much Augusto Octavio. And he said, oh, he's the trainer. She goesavio is the trainer she goes no. He's a collector So it's a collector she goes he extracts the sperm from the from my championship forces and I said well Octavio jerk forces off for a living and she goes why do you always have to ruin everything? Why do you always have to make everything gross? I go well does he use a machine? She just no uses his hands and I go he did a very soft hands when we said cats and machine. She just no uses his hands. And I go, we did a very soft hands, we took hands. And I go, so I'll tell you literally jerk forces off for a living. Yeah. So, uh, interesting.

Yeah, you're right. Someone's got to do that job. Someone's got to have the touch. So, so cut to, so cut to through two or three weeks later, I'm in Las Vegas doing a photo shoot of a bunch of pro athletes. And this guy I know in the porn business director calls me up and he's like, he's Italian. He says, Dignore, I see you in a Vegas, you have to come by the A.V.N. award. I said, which is the adult video. The Oscars of porn. Yeah, adult video awards. Yeah.

So I said and I dated this one insane porn star and I was like, I don't want to run into her. He's like, dude, there are a million people here. You're not going to see her. I walk in the door the first person I saw was her. So anyway, so, uh, so he introduces me to this beautiful British porn girl and I'm chatting with her and she's from the same area at the Friends of Mine R and then she introduces me to Kieran Lee, who anyone who's ever seen porn has seen Kieran Lee, who's one of the most famous guys in porn. And he's English, and I happen to know that his nickname also is the Golden Cock. So we're chatting by the slot machines, and I said, they call you the Golden Cock, right? And he

goes, yeah, mate. And I said, why do they call you that? He says, I'm the only guy who can work 28 days a month. And I said, you know, my girlfriend has a horse name the golden cock, too. How much do you make for a scene? He says, I'm off of his chest, that he has 1500 dollars to see me. I said, well, this, I said this horse gets tens of thousands of dollars for an ejaculation.

He says, show me his horse mate. So I show him the horse's website. I take the screenshot of it, hosted on his Twitter and says the real goldenodies' horse made. So I show him the horse's website. I think the screenshot of it posted on his Twitter and says the real golden cock, Katsudoro. Okay, so I now I need to ask you about dating important star. Okay. How did you meet this person and what is it like to date someone and sleep with someone that you know the next day,

they're sleeping with people and it's not just like they're sleeping with someone that you know the next day, they're sleeping with people, and it's not just like, they're sleeping with someone, it's on film, it's what they do for a living. You know, they're a sex worker, that's fine. We, you know, people have different attitudes about it now, but still I always wonder what it's like to be intimate with someone that that is their job. Well, this was, I guess she'd call it a gateway porn star.

Okay. So she only did girl girl. Oh, that's always the loophole. It was fine for me. So her claim to fame was she'd never had sex with a girl off camera. She'd never had sex with a guy on camera. And I didn't pursue this. So I don't shoot adult.

The way this town works, as I'm sure you know, is if you shoot on the north side of Mulholland Drive and play with the dirty people, the clean people don't wanna play with you anymore. And my very well-paying clients, the Disney, the targets, the all the beauty brands, the Schwartz Koff, Urban Decay, then I'll like, you can't do crossover.

So I'm- being that that's the valley. Yes, which where we are now. Yes, where we are now. Horn Valley. Love it. Just, I mean, growing up in the valley and knowing that it was the port and hover the world, not so much anymore, because so many people could just do their own thing. But when we would like, when I remember early on, we watched like some like cinematics porn, I liked like like, like, like, like, like, like porn, like, porn light. And my husband and I were like, when I remember early on, we watched like some like cinematics porn. I liked like like like like like porn like porn like and my husband and I were like watching it because they're like K with our cable and we would like stop it and argue about what street we thought it was and I'm like no, I know that the cul-de-sac it's off of Norde

off. I know where that is and he's like no, I think that's right around here. And I'm like this is real hot This is a real sexy moment for us just trying to know who knows better Valley real estate I also like that they all did so many of them named themselves after places in the Valley Yeah, like there was a there was a porn starback of the day called Beverly Glen Yeah, and then there was like Laurel Canyon and Kristi Canyon and Ray Victory Kristi Canyon came on my show. Yeah, she was funny. It's funny And then there was like Laurel Canyon and Christy Canyon and Ray Victory.

Christy Canyon came on my show. She did. She was funny. Funny. So anyway, so the lesbian porn star. So I hadn't worked in a couple months and I'm like, I have to make some money. So I'm at a celebrity, like a real celebrity housewarming. And it's very dress up.

And I'm saying, I'd have everybody at the party and this woman who I'd known for years was a big celebrity hair stylist comes over to me, she's like, Scott May, then I'm like, hey. And I said, are you still doing so-and-so's hair? And she goes, you don't know what I do now? I can do what you do now. She was on the biggest milf porn star in the world. I said, don't you, are you married with two kids?

She says, I'm married with two kids and I'm the biggest mil milk porn star in the world. So the hairdressers to Silas, she stopped doing hair and started doing celebrity hair. How did she get into it? There was more money in it and she was always kind of an infomaniac and her husband had a bit of a cuckold kink, I think, which is where they like watching their wife with someone. Yeah. So interesting.

So she's like, so I can tell where she's going with this conversation. She goes, you know, the way you lie in the way, in my connections, I was like, just stop right there. I can't play with you dirty people. She's like, what are you like? More man, what you, you hate porn? And I was like, no, I love porn as much as everybody.

I just can't, just the way the business works. I can't work with you. And if word gets out, I can't do it. So she's calling me every two or three weeks. She's just like, I got a thing for you. You don't even have to use your real name. And I'm like, no, no, no. So finally, I was running out of money,

and she goes, I have a job for you. And I said, what is it? And she says, just come and shoot a DVD box cover. It's called Romance Stills. I've never heard that term before. And she said, Romance Stills, it's called romance stills. I said, I've never heard that term before. And she said, romance stills. It's like a lesbian. It's a lesbian feature. And the girls won't even be naked. They'll just be in lingerie looking at each other longingly. And I said, no nudity. And she said, no nudity. You don't have to shoot the scene. Just shoot the box cover.

So was it page? It was, I'll pay $1,800 in cash. And I said, what's the address in Chad's worth? She goes, how do you know it was in Chad's worth? I said, lucky guess. Because like 77% of the world wanted to shot in Chad's worth. So I show up there and she's like, you don't even have to bring grip or lighting because we'll have it for the scene. So I show up there.

I say quickly say hello to the girls. I barely meet them. They get their hair and makeup done. I'm like, all right, let's go upstairs, go in the bedrooms, sit on the foot of the bed. Look left, look right. I shot singles of both of them. Did the romantic stuff move some light around,

knocked it out in 30, 40 minutes. And then I said, okay, here's your memory card, giving my money. So she gives me the money. But she's like, where are you going? I got catering coming in. And I, you know, for lunch and I said, I do a lot of free food.

So I hung out and I ate the catering and I'm getting ready to leave and she's like, do you want a copy that the Shoot to your You know, I said, nah, I'm good. She goes, you don't want copy of your shoot. I said, nah, I'm good Because what am I gonna do with this lesbian box cover seems I'm not going in my book So I'm getting ready to leave again. She paid me the money You know, and she refers to one of them and she says she likes you. Who's that? She is the blonde one. I didn't even talk to her. I mean, she likes me. She was, you should take her home. She was, you should take her home and have sex with her. I said, look, I do okay with girls, but I'm not really like

to meet someone that I don't know when to close and be like, want to go back to my place. It's just not my game. I like get to know people and I usually let it be their idea. And she gets, I think it's just, they're just taking her home. She already likes you. I said, I don't know what to do. So they, so she, so the, the girls shower, they come down in their robes. They're packing up their rollerboards, that bags. And it turns into the world's worst pit porn acting performance between her and the girl. So she says, you don't want to have to drive all the way back to Long Beach to you tonight. And she goes, she goes, but where would I go? Well, Scott lives in West Hollywood and she goes, Scott would it be an imposition if I stayed with you tonight?

I don't go. No. And then I feel like I have to be a gentleman and take her on a date. So I go, well, do you want to get a drink somewhere first? And she goes, I guess the way you go for a drink. So I took it to so I asked, oh, we had like a glass or two of wine she did and then made out in the photo booth. and then next thing, you know, we're kind of dating So you took her home that night. I took her home that night. Yeah, she stayed for a couple days

Okay, and and then we were dating kind of regularly and she was I She was a little she was very erratic her behavior she'd be the sweetest girl in the world And then someone would say something mean to her on Twitter and I'd look at it I'd be like this guy only has four followers. What are you getting mad about? She'd like throw her phone and like Broke a hole in my wall and I'm like oh my god. Do this hillbilly shit my house. Can I throw your phone and break my wall? Uh, you have to you know temper your thing and then she you never take me anywhere. You never take me to any mainstream parties. I'm like, first of all, don't use the word mainstream. I was just saying the word mainstream in LA means everyone

knows you do point. That's hilarious. So I take her to a fancy proper party. And nobody knows if she is. And everything was going fine. who she is because she's so much less being born. And everything was going fine, but she started, she's, and then I started getting curious because this is not normal behavior. So when she'd be sleeping, I'd look at her medications and the bathroom and I know my way around prescriptions fairly well, but I'd never heard of any of these.

So I start googling them and they're like, schizophrenia medication. Oh. So she had bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. And I got to know her dad on the phone and she had met my parents on the phone. And somehow my dad, somehow my dad figured out that she was a porn star.

I have no idea how. And he calls me all creepy one day. And he says, is she do porn? I go, yes, she does. And he goes, what's her porn name? I said, oh, do you want me to tell your dad? And he goes, yeah, I really want you to tell me. I said, really want me to tell you? He goes, yeah, I said, I'll tell you on your death, but you're not watching my girlfriend do porn, freak. And then she was like, tell up. I'm like, both of you shut up. So how long did it last? Not long. How do you?

Now, when you have someone that you're dating that's kind of weird like that. I'm actually watching the remake of Fatal Attraction on Paramount Plus. They made it a series. Oh, I know. And it's pretty juicy. The way they kind of do it, they kind of milking it out. It's modern day, but the character of Alex, there's something mentally wrong with her that makes her stalk him. It's not just that she wants to be in love with him. So that part's kind of juicy. When you're dating someone that you then realize is mentally off to a point where,

you know, they're taking whatever. She's acting erratic, you know, she's on a very strong drug. Does that make you scared about how do I break up with this person so that they don't go off the edge or don't try to, you know, where they can, where, you know, they can take it nicely. I kept nice let down. Yeah, I mean, I kept warning her. I was just like this behavior. So I took her to Maroon 5's Halloween party at the, at the cemetery, at the Hollywood

forever cemetery. Yeah, there's like thousands of people there so i wasn't really worried about it but just the way you we function in polite society is you know a certain way and we're working our way through the crowd i'm a polite guy i'm like oh excuse me pardon me you know and she starts shoving people out of the way and i was like what are you doing you can't shove people at party and then this um woman comes up to us and she's and she's a little drunk and a lot overweight and she goes you guys are really sexy do you want to have a threesome and I go oh you're so sweet no no we're just to get we

don't do that and she get and and and the more girl goes we wouldn't fuck you you're fucking fat Huh, and I go I go that is a human being you can't talk to her like that. This is a human being I can't talk to people like that and On the right home. I was just like this that behavior tonight was unacceptable You ask why I don't bring you to think I can't bring you. You're like a feral animal I was like I I was like you can never do this again And then it was just a and I was just like I'm warning you what did the girl in the back seat say was like, you can never do this again. And then it was just

a, and I was just like, I'm warning you. What did the girl in the back seat say? Yeah, you're a rude to me. I'm just kidding. No, there was no thing like you did take her home. Oh, that's funny. So I gave her plenty of warnings. And then I just did this sort of fade out. I didn't do the formal break up. I just started gradually ghosting. And you weren't scared that you're going to show up at your place with a duffel bag? No, but then I ran into her the next year. So the next year I end up at the AVN awards again. Oh, so you run, okay, and you ran into her there? This time, yeah, this time it's the AVN awards

in the shot show, which is the world's largest gun show happened in the same week usually probably a great Pairing actually. Yes. Yeah, all the cowboys and Bubba's come over to the hard rock and just stare at the porn girls. Yeah, yeah with their big bell buckles on so I did a photo shoot for this gun company and this gun company. And uh... ran into again. Oh yeah so we go back to the hard rock and I go into the circle bar which was that circular bar in the hard rock and I go, she is. I go, you know what? I don't have beef with any of my acts as I'm ending this right now. So I go up door and she looks away and I go, no you saw me, I know you, I'm here. Listen you and I liked each other before we were friends before really yeah just for like a few hours yeah we'll be friends after like come on it didn't

work out like we don't have to be ugly to each other and she goes you're right I'm sorry and we talked for a little while we had a drink um and she's not good on alcohol this one so cut to a few hours later I run into her again in a different bar in the hotel and she stands up on a glass coffee table surrounded by porn guys you know with their bedazzle jeans and their tribal tattoos and their big muscles and she goes that motherfucker right there broke my heart and I go didn't I just unbreak it like three hours ago I thought we were cool she goes you heard my feelings and I I go, I'm sorry. And then all of a sudden, I'm surrounded by these spray tan, three spray tan, mussely dudes.

And they're just like, what'd you do to her, man? And I'm just like, my droplet business. And thankfully, that didn't beat me up. Like, yeah. Amazing. We're not friends. Amazing. Now, tell me about this other woman that you were a little bit conned by a woman you were dating.

I was a lot bit conned by a woman I was dating. Okay, so start from the beginning. I love a con story. Let's call it nine years ago, ish. Okay. I get a friend request on Facebook and normally I never accept those if I don't know them, but this person I had like a hundred friends in common with and they weren't the typical friend collector types and how there's always that Yeah, a couple dozen that are friends with everybody So I hit accept and we don't make plans and we're just making small talk for a series of weeks Maybe three four or five weeks and with no flirting and no intention of ever meeting. It's just something to pass the time.

So one night she calls me and she says, Hey, I'm in your neighborhood. I'm at the Pikey on sunset. What's that? The Pikey is like an old English pub and you call the coach and horses. Oh, yes. It's really old. Like it's cocky to drink there. Yeah, yeah.

And now it's like a fancy Michelin star kind of restaurant courses with as a homage to the back of the day. So I meet her there. And you know, we have some drinks. And I'm about to say nice to meet you because again, I'm not a closer. I like get to know someone and she goes, Hey, do you want to go back to your place and play? I go, yeah. So we go back to my place and we do some sex and And then she's like I I have to get home and walk my dogs and I'm like even better, you know, yeah, so she leaves and I don't hear for a little while and then three weeks later. She's like listen. I just had a falling out with my landlord

I have to move out tonight. Can I come stay with you for a while and I'm like no like I don't know you So she's like I have nowhere to go. I am on the streets. I have my dog and I have one bag. I have no place to go and I said, where are you? And she said, chat's worth. I said, do you do porn? She's, why is everyone keep asking me that? And I said, because that's porn town. And she goes, no, I do not do porn. I said, where are you? And she goes, DeSoto and Devinshhire? So I go on Google Maps and I go who tells dystodo Devonshire I said do you see the motel six? So yeah, I see it, but I don't have any money Scott. I said hang on a second I said I just booked you three nights there on me. You don't have to pay me back

And I just figured it's a couple of hundred dollars. I've lost that bastard in my life And I will figured it's a couple of hundred dollars. I've lost that faster in my life And I will pay any amount of money. Yeah, let me let me say right here I think you were very smart in doing that Because I do believe in my friends who have been financially conned by a guy that they dated briefly When they finally admitted because they're embarrassed. They're like well He just needed a loan for two weeks for taxes. It'm like, you were dating this guy for three weeks. He's in his 40s.

And he's asking a girl that he should be trying to impress for a couple grand that he a can't get from a credit card. He's exhausted everyone else in his life, a brother or cousin for two grand. That's what you have to ask yourself when someone. So I think that you were smart to be like, let me just give this girl a gift. So you did that continue. Yeah. So I book her three nights and said, you don't have to pay me back. Good luck in your life. I literally said that. Like don't call me again. Good luck with your life.

So she calls me. So I had nowhere. Sorry, before she calls me, she pay pals me, the full amount from the hotel. And I was just like, oh, and I don't respond. And she says, hey, did you get the paypal? I said, yeah, I said, you didn't have to pay me back, but thank you, that was pretty stand-up of you. So I thought that she was kind of all right. So then a couple of weeks later, she says I had nowhere.

She says, hey, so my trust fund just came through and my lawyer says I can spend up to 10 million dollars on a house. Sure. Uh, she goes, have you ever spent any time in Montecito? I said, I've spent a lot of time. But wait, off the bat, you thought it was bullshit or was there a little part of you that was like, maybe it is true. Heather, we've been, we've been kicking around for a while.

Okay. All right. You know, the old, the old saying money shouts wealth whispers. Yeah. She told me she was a getty. I think that like none of this added up. And like, you know, you live in the sound long enough, you're going to cross pass with some of them, you know, family three. So I said, sure you are. So she's like, have you spent time in Monocito? I say, I spent a lot of time in Monocito. I have some friends that live there She's something in a buying a house in Monocito up to ten million dollars. Well good for you And she's do you want to go house shopping with me? I said no, I'm busy. I have a lot of editing to do Just just go

So she's like well, I'm gonna be staying at you know at a luxury resort there I'll get you your own room there. And you can just stay as long as you want. So I know. All right. So I call my friends who live on the beach in Manacito and I said, I'm just a girl, she seems nuts. If this turns out to be bullshit,

can I stay with you? And they're like, you have to kiss the guest, I should come any time without asking. So I go up there and I show up at the Bacara, you know, it's like, it's Carlton. And it's real. They're like, welcome, Mr. Nathan, they put my bags in a golf cart and they drive me to a huge suite, you know, at that further stage right on the cliff above the beach. And she texted me and she's like, listen, you don't have to hang out with me if you have time for like a breakfast

or a smoothie, but it's yours You did you were there for me when no one else was there for me stay as long as you want I might be staying here for months while I find my house They're seeing her like twice three times I stayed there for three weeks to the tune of What you stay there for three weeks you don't leave and you never see her I start a few times you bone no You kiss I would all romantic nothing. We like met for a smoothie, you know This is so weird. Okay, continue. So So we end up so we end doing that and then I get a terrible feeling

I don't know like I my spidey sense was tangling after three weeks and I'm like this feels over $60,000 at this point. And I'm doing all the things that would never do. Like eating the chocolate covered almonds in the mini bar. Right. Which are $90 and drinking liquor from the mini bar. And I'm kind of settling into this roe blife. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, so I get a bad feeling. So it's like nine o'clock at night, and I call the front desk. And I said, yeah, I'm going to be checking out early about about seven a.m. Can you have my car? Why? And, uh, but you never put a card down for like incidentals or anything. No, but I had to give my ID. Okay. Right. Which was concerning. Okay. So I, concerning Okay, so I So the night before I left I had my friends who live there who always takes it should care of me when I visit I said why don't you come by will spend an afternoon in a book or we ate some pizza and we drank some smoothies all

Charge the room. Yeah, but they all met the girl was there too. Okay. All right, they all met and And did they think she was legit? Obviously you're staying there for at this point. I would think she's no there. No, no, there's like something's not right about this girl. She's like she's weird and I'm like, I know she's weird. I just don't know where the money's really coming from. So uh, so I leave in the morning and get really early

and I leave. And then around sunset, I get a call from my friend who lives there, wife and she says Where are you right now? And I said I'm home. I came back home. I missed my cat I wanted oh when you left they never tried to charge you if anything there just like bye. No, okay I didn't even go to the front task. I just gonna okay Yeah, did you tell the girl you're relieving? I texted her when I was halfway home. Okay, I said thanks for everything. I'm on my way home. Appreciate it. So

My friend and her husband Tell me that they were sitting at the four seasons built more watching the sun go down having a drink and a Failing of FBI agents come rushing into the bar tackle her to the ground zip tie her wrists and ankles and confiscate her dogs. So she was sitting at a different hotel and your friends happened to witness this and run into her and she had her dog and they're like hello and and then the FBI charges in. So I go oh my god what is going on and my friend says Google Google this name. And I Google the girl's name.

It was slightly different from the name she told me. And the first thing that comes up is a listicle in the Huffington Post of the most notorious conwomen in American history. And there were people that go back to the 1800s on this list and her. So I'm in a state of panic. I'm like, I think there's weed in the house. I'm gonna go hide it. I'm like, the sheriffs are gonna kick my door down. They had a copy of my

D. My car was at the valet. They have my license plate. I'm gonna get arrested. So I call my lawyer and I go, Phil, what am I gonna do? And I tell him the whole story that I just told you. And he says that Scott do not call the police. I'm like, they just did a press conference on NBC. They're going to come to my house. He said, Scott, if you call, I go, maybe I should call this detective and get ahead of this and just tell him that I didn't know. It's got the police or not your friend. If you call the FBI or the police on yourself, I'm going to drive over to your house And I'm going to kick you in the balls as hard as I can. He goes, if they arrest you, do not say a word to them. Every syllable that you utter to the police limits the, what I can do for you.

You didn't do anything wrong. Just sit tight. So I didn't sleep in three weeks. I was in a state of abject terror. And her credit, she never, she never told anything about me. But I wanted to sort of see if I could shift the narrative. So I called my friend Vicki, who hosts this network TV show called.

I can't even think of the name of it. It was one of those through crime TV shows. So I said, I said, hey, Vicki, you want to win another Emmy? And she goes, I love you, she said, she said, God, I love your stories. What do you got for me? And I tell her the story.

She goes, it's an interesting story, but is she good looking? It really only works if she's good looking. I said, yeah, she's good looking enough. So Vicki takes a camera crew down to the arraignment in Santa Barbara County and sends me a picture of the girl who's got a split lip and a black

eye and a royal blue prison jumpsuit. And Vicki texts me the picture and she says it looks like somebody had some sass mouth found at the jailhouse and they did a special on it and she ended up getting, she ended up getting like five or six years. What did she do? I was her crime besides scamming hotels. Oh, well here, let me tell you how she scammed those houses. That's the whole backstory.

So she'd been in and out of prison since 1994, since she was a kid. Wow. And the first people she ripped off was her own grandparents. Hmm. That's always how it starts. Siphon, their life savings. Oh, and it wasn't like buying anything of value.

It was buying luxury goods, buying. Oh, and it wasn't like buying anything of value. It was buying luxury goods buying handbags and hotels days and She married some guy ripped him off ripped all of his so she was an identity thief So what she would do is she would steal people's identity then go rent Airbnb's then find a piece of mail of the people who live in the house apply for credit in their names find a piece of mail of the people who live in the house apply for credit in their names. Get credit cards and kept it going, kept hopping from Airbnb to Airbnb, stealing people's identity, and then she was constantly on the run. And the cops and the feds had been looking for her for years, and they finally nailed her, just after I left. So she gets five or six years in prison between prison overcrowding and good behavior

She got out in three years And while I have no desire to ever make contact with her again. I do in a way. Thank her for not dragging me down the drain with her So she put down some fake credit card and They were that is so weird though. I can't imagine they after like a bill running up that high that they, that they wouldn't be a little concerned. You think? Like it kind of reminds me of the, um,

Anadelvi story. We're Anadelvi invites her friend and then she's like, oh, can you put your card down? But even then they were like, came up to them after a while and we're like, you know, we've run it through, it hit a limit or maybe who's ever card she still was so wealthy that it was still going through. Or maybe she was constantly swapping them. And then I later found out from a new story that the realtor, she was that was showing her all of these ten million dollar houses yeah she stole the realtor's ID

while she was looking at a house went into her purse and stole her driver's license and credit card in ripped her off oh god that's another cruel thing that you know it's always the realtor's that get sucked into this fake con of looking for nice houses and stuff. And they're all excited thinking they're going to make a $10 million deal and they're trying hard and they're going home and telling their husband, oh, I got a hot one. But the big deal off the... The realtor, I know the first thing they ask for because they don't want their time wasted is,

okay, send a letter, proof of fun. Well, I think these cons, because it's fun for them too, I think they choose someone that's new. Like some pretty new girl on Joe Shmo's team. And they're like, oh, hi, you know. That's totally great. Yeah. Like, you know, it's just so excited to have like

an actual client and like actually book some appointments and they don't want to be too pushy and say, oh, can I make sure, you know, but if you take him in your car especially being female, meet them at the office, don't meet them at the property and then have their license copied. So there's a witness and then you leave that license with like the receptionist and then you put him in your car or whatever. I don't know your realtor. Yeah. How long did you do that license with like the receptionist and then you put them in your car or whatever. I didn't know you had a realtor. How long did you do that for? My parents were realtors and then I did it with them.

And I got, I got people calling me because I was like 22 and pretty cute. And they put me in, they put me in some ad. And so, and then my mom was so excited that it's getting calls, you know? I remember when I took this guy that was like a cop out to like buy, you know his first home Which still would have been like great deal for me and Then I realized I halfway through this guy doesn't want it by a house It was like very flirty and everything and then I it was like

Then I was like listen we had a fun day today. I should some some stuff, but unless you buy for me, this was a huge waste of my time. So you know, are you serious? And also you cannot go with another person and look at other houses with another person or walk into an open house and buy from the broker that's sitting there. You have to say, I represent you. Here's a stack of cards. Be loyal. It's a tough business.

How long did you do it for? I did it since I was seven years old. I assisted my parents with delivering pumpkins to the houses in the neighborhood, stuffing envelope, soliciting listings at the local school. And then I officially got my license at 19 and did it like in summers of college. And then I finally let the license go

once I was working on Chelsea lately. I let it. It's fine. I remember that you were a long time right? Yeah, from the beginning to the end. Yeah. Which I, there was sounding stupid how long did it run for? Seven and a half years. Okay.

So yeah, but at a certain point I just let it like, you know, because you have to keep up those classes and stuff like that. And I was like, I think I can like make it now. But I still love, I mean, I love real estate. I love, you know, watching the shows and I interview a lot of realtors that are on the TV shows. Yeah. Okay. And you were like,

you were a writer for Chelsea? I was, I was wrote on it and produced it and appeared on it and appeared on it. Yeah. Regularly. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. What do you think about the writer strike? I believe in them. and appeared on it. And appeared on it. Yeah, regularly. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. What do you think about the writer's strike? I believe in them. I mean, obviously, it's ridiculously unfair to writers.

You know, when I've been looking at people posting their residual checks, you know, from streaming and they're getting one in two cents for writing gigantic TV shows from streaming royalties. And it's bullshit. You know, like directors make a fortune, actors make a fortune, streamers CEO make a fortune, streaming companies grow year over year. You got to pay the writers. I just saw someone can add that shit. I guess deadline just posted a writer that explained it really well, which I didn't understand

one of the aspects being the mini-rooms Where they like they we just want six or so they say we just want to pay for the writers for like six weeks To write the show and then that's it. That's where they're saying it's so it's these gigs. It's not You know several months where normally the writers would write, and then they would also be on set to change the stuff to watch out to write. You want it to do because things always change and they... Yeah, and so this older guy was saying, you know, now we're going to have a generation of writers that really don't know how moving-making works, and you're not going to get the same

product, and they're thinking they're doing it just like, just give us the script and goodbye, and they're taking away the art form of it and it's going to affect the product, you know? So I think it's a scary time, but, you know, I hope, I hope people really back them because that's a really, this is like a monumental moment of like streaming and stuff. I'm proud of the stars that are doing it. I love what you Barrymore did. I love that people are taking a stand because this is, you know, just as all the writers I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that.

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I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to do that. movies. Yeah. You know, like I told you when I started doing commercials, 15% of commercials were non-union. Now it's like one in 30 auditions I'll have are union. You know, so they're just trying to eradicate the union. Not not paying anyone. Yeah. And you know, all these unions have like the highest unemployment rate in the world when you get a gig you should be rewarded for it. Right. Good point. Okay. So tell me what tell me you will let me say like what is your doll alum a story and what did you think about him

sucking the tongue of the kid? I went about two weeks avoiding seeing it. it uh... i was disappointed i would say uh... but then somebody i don't know if it was in my comments or if it was on a show i picked it up somewhere saying that it wasn't uh... that it wasn't unusual to bitten to bitten ritual you heard that

i i saw that i saw different things i saw uh... could be that he has all summer's then they're like no he doesn't and Good news is all summers is very little with those type of people based on their diet Which I'm like what's their diet? We should take it and then the other one was yes It's it's a ritual. It's a joke. It's I don't know. It's something I respect all religions I think it's don't don't French kids children. Yeah, I think it was weird so

What's tell us your story? All right So I had this really good friend who was a model and she was not a sugar baby. She was not a pro She was just like a sweet girl from the Pacific Northwest and She but she ran with a big crowd and she was just one of those people that was fun to have around so Everybody had her around and she was one of those girls that could commandeer jets and she'd be flying all over the world and So one night she calls me so she calls me from the on our iPad Face time from the interior of a private jet and I've've seen a lot, but I've seen the interiors of a few private jets in my days.

This was different. This was a huge aircraft. And I said, dude, what kind of plane is that? That's the biggest thing I've ever seen. And she's drunk. She's got a glass of champagne in her head. He goes, do you have any fun? And I said, yeah, find out.

So she takes her iPad and she goes to the flight deck. She goes, hey, you guys, this is is my friend Scott? He's really into airplanes. Uh, and I go, hey, what are you flying there, Cap? And he goes, oh, Boeing 777-200. And I said, nice whip. And he goes, that makes. So she goes back to her big, creamy leather seat and flops back down. And I notice over her shoulder, saffron rope. And I go, dude, is that the belly llama behind you? She goes, oh my God, yes,ron robed. And I go, dude, is that the Dalai Lama behind you? She goes, oh my god, yes, do you know him? I said, no, I don't know him. She goes, he's really nice. I said, dude, he's the 14th reincarnation of Buddha. I would imagine the very least he would be

as nice. And she goes, what? I go, nothing, never mind. So we're talking a little while longer, and she shifts in her seat again. And I go, dude, is that Bill Clinton talking to the Dalai Lama behind you? She goes, oh my god, yes, do you know him? I go, no, I don't know him either. She goes, they're really cool, do you want to meet them? I go, yeah. So she starts walking back there and then it occurs to me that I'm shirtless, in bed, with just lamp light, on an ambient. But it's too late.

So she gets on one knee with the iPad and she goes, you guys this is my friend's god, he wanted to be you. And the Dalai Lama goes, hello! And Bill Clinton goes, how you doing bud? And I go, I don't know what to say, I'm like high in shirtless of a cow. I go, you're all in this? Is there a president? And then she goes back to the seat. I go, dude, where are you going with Bill Clinton, the Dalai Lama? She goes, Monaco. I go go, dude, where are you going with Bill Clinton and the Dalai Lama? She goes, Monaco. I go, what are you doing in Monaco with Bill Clinton and Dalai Lama?

And she goes, partying, duh. So, could not figure out what this was about. So the next day she sends me a picture of a bottle of wine on a dinner table with the ocean in the background. And I don't know that much about wine. And so I take a picture and I send it to Carlo Mendovi, a friend of mine, who's of the Mendovi Napa Valley family, and he's wine encyclopedia, wine-raid man. And so I just said, any good? Any goes, that's the most famous bottle of first growth bordeaux in the world, the most expensive

bottle of first growth bordeaux in the world. the most expensive bottle of first growth bordeaux in the world. And the fakes to example, I have ever seen in my life. What does that mean? They counterfeit a lot of wine. So this wine is in 1947, Chateau Chaval Blanc, which means white horse, I guess, yeah, Chaval Blanc. And it's one of the, if not the most coveted, Bordeaux. So I go, Carla, you're sure this is fake?

He goes, yeah, the corks wrong, the labels wrong, the lines, the bottles wrong. Let me guess, can I say no? He said, nice, I said no. He said, Monaco, I said, yes. He goes, let me guess, some billionaire took his dick out, was trying to show off in front of all of his friends and paid six figures for figures for bottle of wine

i said yep and he said are you gonna tell them it's fake and i said no he was why not i said if i've learned anything about billionaires in my life is they don't like being embarrassed or humiliated on saying shit so who do you think about the wine clinton dolly along, Alarm, or who? Here it was the billionaire that was that was invited. Invited them all. And I know who it is and I cannot say. Some people guessed it in the comments section I'm ticked off. Oh really?

A lot of people guessed it's Epstein. It's not Epstein. Oh. Oh. So, yeah. Well. Thank you so much. This was extremely fun and juicy.

Always. We have more on here So we'll just save it for the next time. All right, I write everything down. Thank you Heather Thank you Annie and tell everybody where they can follow you and sign up for the the book that's coming out Okay, so the book sign up is at bad decisions book.com My Instagram and TikTok our Scott Nathan photo. My Twitter is Scott Nathan. I think that's all of it. Yeah. Awesome.

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