Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Spencer Pratt, Justin and Hailey Bieber and Diddy
Episode Date: May 22, 2025Spencer Pratt is here! Spencer is known as the greatest husband on earth to pop singing sensation Heidi Montag. He shares about his non stop hustle since his Palisades home burnt down. He tells us wha...t not to do on Tik Tok and how the music industry works today. Who are the celebrities that may have been “with” Diddy? Is Justin and Hailey Bieber’s marriage in trouble? So juicy so funny! -Go to https://RO.CO/JUICYSCOOP for your free insurance check. -For the bookings you’ve dreamed of, list your property on https://Booking.com! -Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets, at https://BollAndBranch.com/juicyscoop Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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earth, best hype man, boy dad, married to the number one pop star, million trillion downloads,
Heidi Wood new album, I'll be your blonde tonight.
That's the number one, but there's the new song, Animal.
What's the other one?
Oh, no, we're going home.
Sometimes I wish I was a rapper because I would have you, your intro like how they used
to do like the preludes like a song and then the beat would come in, you intro, like how they used to do like the preludes, like a song,
and then the beat would come in, you know, like,
I'm like that, but yeah,
no going home was the first one, was the sad.
Wait, when there's no going home, am I saying it right?
It sounds beautiful.
That one really gives me chills.
That one's like too heavy.
It gives you, every time it pops up
and you put it over anything about the fire.
I'm getting chills right now thinking about it, but I think it's a great song.
It's not what I like because I'm trying to be not depressed.
It's hard to promote that one and like editing the sizzle like clips for that was
traumatic going through like
your
camera roll and then really realizing all this is burned down so
That was very hard. I think it was therapeutic in the sense trying trying to like yeah
My goal is to not say like four million times. I'm like, I'm gonna go to a doctor who cares
I've been doing it my whole life. I'm not saying like four million times. I'm gonna go to a doctor. Who cares? I've been doing it my whole life.
I am a valley girl.
It's what it is.
I think it's a LA thing.
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So you guys have been so busy.
She made appearances at Stagecoach.
You are going to-
Not Stagecoach, that deal didn't work out.
We almost did Stagecoach.
Oh sorry, I mean at Coachella.
Budgets aren't the Kardashian level budget for Stagecoach.
So you know what's wild?
What?
Is now I'm like the biggest Courtney
Kardashian fan and... Because she had her performance at her party. At her big event, at her
pooch thing. So I never saw that coming. I mean I always loved Scott and Courtney
when they were together. They were a great couple but now I'm like... They were a great couple. They're the
worst couple. For TV. For TV he was hilarious. They were great. I was upset when that you
know was no longer part of the show.
Do you have you ever hung out with Scott?
I met him for the first time.
People say I've met him before.
I don't remember that because it would have been in like, in my 20s, early 20s.
Yeah.
So I don't think it actually happened.
But at the Hulu, actually, this is a great Tibet.
When our house first burned down.
When it first burned down?
How many times has it burned down?
You mean back in January.
That moment, I lived through it every day.
So technically the first time I felt it.
In my DMs, I want to say the first person to reach out was Scott Disick.
I would have to look and I don't want to but it was only cuz I text you but I understand
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Let's look, you know, let's let's just see cuz I had never messaged him
I didn't I don't even think he followed me
Lord disick and
he and
It's all forever. Yeah, and he doesn't have to he's nothing to gain
And so forever. Yeah, and he doesn't have to he's nothing to gain
He wrote never DM me before
Hey brother, just wanted to drop in and say how happy I am for you And of course saddened by all the horrific fires everyone is dealing with
But there ain't no couple that deserves their fame and money more than you guys. I hope it keeps getting bigger exclamation exclamation
huge congratulations,
man. You guys deserve it. So just because he fell. Yeah. But I mean, so. Listen,
in all the times I've hung out with him, I always thought he was funny and charming.
I don't really know what's going on. I know that like, um, how it works out now with them having their show, at least in the last few years.
Like even when I interviewed Malika and her sister, I always call them the Malikas because
that's what that one girl would call them. The one that would do the... Did you ever read like,
I don't know what happened. I was following this account and it was this girl did the
Northwest Black Book and it was so funny. They probably got that count deleted.
No, they had her come on the show once.
They thought it was funny.
But I think as North got older,
I don't know if that still exists anymore,
but anyway, she would call them from North's perspective
as a little girl, the Malikas,
cause like the main one was Malika, but her twin sister.
Anyway, when I interviewed them years ago,
one of them said, yeah, at a certain point,
like, you know, we were like, hey, can we get a,
you know, we should be paid as the friend.
We can't just be coming over all the time
and just sign a release.
Like, we're the only person Courtney,
or Chloe's talking to.
So I know that throughout the years,
like, he had, even when they were separated or divorced,
a point of being on the show.
But I don't know if he's really on the show anymore, Scott.
I'm gonna tune in and catch up on Hulu,
but I'm not aware.
Can't wait to binge watch it on Hulu,
all episodes streaming.
But then, so I meet him after that DM for the first time
at the Hulu event or whatever.
Oh yeah, the bigulu event or whatever.
Oh yeah, the big PR thing.
Yeah.
The cool name they had for it.
Yeah.
But he came up and he was so nice and he's like, congratulations bro.
This is the funniest thing I'm dealing with, which everyone keeps on saying to me, like,
it's so amazing what's happening.
And if I had enough money from this amazing moment
that's happening to rebuy our exact 2,500 square foot house
with our exact knives and plates, all just exactly
what we had, I could embrace that.
But I come off so like, what are you talking?
Because I don't feel that.
Like, it's exciting and there's so much positivity,
but we still don't have our house.
We don't have the money to rebuild our house.
So, God willing, maybe it keeps coming,
but based off of what's happening with my algorithms,
it doesn't seem like I'm getting more famous.
It feels like I'm drastically getting less famous.
So...
I want to talk about that too, because that's really funny,
what you've been doing.
So, first of all, you really did on TikTok,
got to the million on TikTok.
2.1 million.
Oh, 2.1 million.
And then, and I saw that you were doing a lot
of TikTok shops and stuff.
And I actually was saying to Drake,
my son who now works full-time, I said, you know, we
should talk to Spencer about it because maybe when you come back, because I've got like
435,000 people and we just put the clips of the show and a couple of funny opinions.
I'm not selling stuff.
But I buy a lot of stuff from people.
I buy a lot of TikTok products.
I just got a dress that was, but a lot of stuff from people. I buy a lot of TikTok products. I just got a dress that was, ooh.
But a lot of my outfits are good, you know?
I'm like, sometimes I'm just like,
well, this is $20, if it sucks, who cares?
I don't return it.
But anyway, but I was seeing that you were doing that
and I was like, maybe I'm like leaving money on the table.
But then you said that's what like screwed up now,
people not seeing your videos as much.
Can you explain what you think is going on?
Okay, so let's rewind. Peak, most famous, I've ever been in my whole life, truly billions of views.
Like in 30 days you look at analytics, one said like 580 million. It was so insane.
So the heads of TikTok were like, we're going to connect you with that global top TikTok shop person.
And so I talked to this legend, I love him. It's not his fault. Anything happened. He's a good guy,
Luke. And he's like, he's like, Oh, I'll get you a house. Any house you want. We'll make you millions
with your lock it in, set it up. Next thing you know, I'm selling free-owned beautiful luxury designer purses
with this Chinese company.
They're the number one Chinese company
that came over here to work with TikTok.
So I'm in this house in Beverly Hills
with all lovely Chinese people from China.
I don't know if they all live in the house,
but there's just me and all these Chinese people.
And so I'm not making millions of dollars
and my views are crashing.
So how does it work?
Do you get a commission off each purse you sell?
Each purse you sell.
But the reality is these purses cost so much
to begin with that the cut, like I have to sell.
And so I stop at like five hours
of showing purses and handbags and they look
at me dead serious. Why are you stopping so soon? I'm like, been standing for five hours,
nonstop unzipping purses. I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, we need to go for
like eight hours. I'm like, are you nuts? My feet hurt. My jaw hurts, I can't even do this. So then I started working with all the brands.
I'm doing the gum, I'm doing anything that they have
in TikTok shop, the powders, meat, everything.
But I just, in my conspiracy, what I believe
is TikTok shop as the algorithm wants all of these companies
that are the sellers to put money behind the video
of you selling their thing to boost it.
So turn my entertainment TikTok account
into an e-commerce account.
And what I know from businesses,
they're not gonna just push those mints.
If I have a mint thing, I'm like,
mm, they only make money if that mint company pays for the boost.
Like the boost is to this many millions of viewers.
So I spent the last two months, 10 emails a day calling.
They couldn't disconnect my tick tock account because there are all these
pending orders, blah, blah, blah.
So finally, they went to the heads of China TikTok
and they got a deal to recode my TikTok.
And now I sabotaged myself a thousand times TikTok shop
because when I think they recoded my TikTok,
they created it like it was a new account.
Like I turned it on, like I signed up.
So my whole algorithm is as if I am
respectfully an unhoused person that just got a phone on the sidewalk and just made a tik-tok with no Wi-Fi and
It's like oh, that's the equivalent to how I went from getting millions of views on my tik-tok to
1,000 when I posted before I just posted go hundred thousand now I post it goes 400 viewers
So it is it's like a real like I'm talking to God like I actually prayed for ten minutes I got you need to fix this cuz you can pray for more than ten minutes, but no
But I need to pray for more than ten minutes pray for warm
No
but I'm saying it it is it was so interesting when I saw and then you're like
Oh, I'm doing and you'd like put the phone in a bag
and put your head in the bag.
You're like, I'm just trying to do different things.
Or I used to joke and say,
why does every girl have to tell a story doing makeup?
Why can't I just tell you the story
with like a pool in the background?
Like, why do I have to like be like doing all that?
It's the AI.
It's there's something, yeah, there's something with it.
And then that gets old
and it has to be cooking or whatever.
For people, and we will get to other things, but I do think this is interesting because it is a big
part of our life and it is crazy. I'll see other content creators being like, I don't know what
happened. Can you let me know if you're seeing this? Sometimes people think they're getting
banned because they're too controversial or they or like they're speaking the truth and like the world is coming
down. They're not wrong. It could be that too. I'll tell you how I know because what I didn't know
is somebody would call me like a TikTok live battler that you know I used to do the TikTok
live battle and all money calls me and he's like if you checked your violations I'm like what are
you talking about? He's like click below your post where it says more data.
I'm not kidding.
I wanna say 500 of my videos below had violations for,
and the AI, now it's so AI driven.
If I was eating a taco, it would be like substance abuse.
So I'd have to appeal the violation.
But if you don't, it's like limited your audience,
appeal violations, so these people may not know
that they are getting violations,
and if you say hate speech, bullying,
anything you could ever think of, my videos had it,
so for two days straight I'm like submitting appeals,
so they're not even crazy.
Well, that's so interesting,
because you know, it's not like that on Instagram, but
I'll cut the clips from the show.
And I sometimes it'll get 4000 views, and sometimes it'll get a million.
And they'll be right next to each other on my grid.
And I'm like, I don't know what it is.
I don't know if it was the time I hit it or what.
But for me, I just go, whatever, that one was a waste.
Three, and three more, it'll be at 500,000 again.
It's like, but it was a very interesting thing.
So no, I won't be selling purses on TikTok Shop.
No, what you need to do is if you do it,
I've learned is you do your burner account.
So you'd add Juicy Scoop Shop, a new TikTok.
And on that account, you connect to TikTok Shop
and you put all the Juicy Scoop merch in there.
Once a week, you could do videos in there
and you do hashtag TikTok.
So now on the at Heidi and Spencer account,
I connect to TikTok Shop and at the Pratt Daddy account,
because it is a great, I buy, like you said, it works.
But if you're trying to be an entertainer
and they say it shouldn't, they say that the algorithm
will feed your entertainment posts
to the entertainment people and your TikTok shop,
but the problem with me is everything I do
seems like e-commerce.
All I'm doing all day long is saying order, pre-order,
sub, stream, shop. So my entertainment is trying to sell you Heidi music all day long
So it's been and again. I don't care cuz now I'm posting like it's a spam account
Yeah, cuz I was at the Airbnb event with all the famous
Influencers my first real influencer and I got invited to. So funny though.
I didn't know all the megastars like Christina Aguilera, Kevin Hart and all
these people were gonna be there. So I'm in the front row doing my content and
all of a sudden I see all these people like coming from Airbnb team like kind of
hovering over me like why they like vibing me and then I look at the seats
and I'm looking all the name tags for my name, and I don't see my name, but I see Kevin Hart,
I see it, and I'm like, start filming,
I'm like, what the F?
These people are coming, and they're like,
you're not allowed to be in this section right now,
and they're waiting for me to move
to bring the real celebrities in.
And then I joked,
because they didn't have names for non-celebrities,
there was a number,
so I counted back from the A-list celebrities, and I was like, A, B, C, D.
I was like, I think I'm an F-list celebrity because of the row.
But it was still the closest I've ever been to A-listers, so I didn't take it as a negative.
I was just telling the other influencers.
But then like Sean White's wife was in front of me and I was like, oh, I don't know if
she knows she's delisted.
So what I was quizzing all the big time TikTok influencers, they only post once a day.
So that's the algorithm for the real, if you really want to be strategic, that's what they do.
And I'm doing 50 a day. So I don't care because I'm like.
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I mean, look, I just I joked about Halle Berry with Sel and Lube on Mother's Day. And I'm like, our Oscar winner, then someone said, I think that's her own brand,
whatever who cares. You have to do it. It's fine. I get it. I mean, I just saw
Lisa Kudrow and Courtney Cox, they were doing a video, a gaming thing.
And I'm like, okay, are you guys just bored?
Are you getting paid like?
Millions.
Five million each.
Millions.
Because these apps have so much money.
You were making a million every episode
and I understand the residuals of friends
is not where it's at, you know,
but then I'm like, you're probably like, why not?
Like, why not meet my girlfriend
and do something and make money?
And there's nothing embarrassing about it anymore,
is what it is, but I sometimes feel like for other people,
it's like, can we have one thing?
Can we have one thing?
Oh, that's what I've been saying that for years
because like I'm over in the gutter
trying to take any check, and now you are dealing
with megastars taking every check.
I'm like, can somebody eat some croutons?
Like you're taking all the bread.
Can I get the old rotted piece of bread
that you made the croutons with?
So I've been feeling that.
And then I always think these poor commercial actors
that used to do the AT&T, that used to,
like that was a career and And everything that you cannot...
Every commercial is an Oscar winner.
It's Bradley Cooper selling ice cream.
Insurance, Matthew McConaughey selling Fords.
George Clooney selling Nespresso.
And I'm like, yeah, it's...
So, I'm selling handbags.
They better not come from my turf.
Three owned is my niche.
So, though here's the worst part about that.
I actually did like good. My first one. I've made some real money.
Yeah.
And they were like, this is going to be huge.
Of course, what happens? The tariff thing.
China puts all the information showing these bags costs like a dollar.
I tell them, I say, hey hey guys we should cancel the next live
This is not gonna work. It's trending showing that this cost this no one's gonna buy the pre-owned this when they
Seen these Chinese companies doing it for this. I know let's just try how do you think that five hours when I was right? So I
want to know what a day in the life of
I want to know what a day in the life of Spencer Pratt is. So you guys live in Carpinteria, which is...
We live in Santa Barbara.
Sorry.
You live in Santa Barbara and you have a rental house there.
We are renting from Skipper and Janet who are unfortunately in an apartment.
Those are your parents.
And so you have the kids. They're in school.
They both go to school. The little one does too. He loves preschool. Thank God. The little
one. What's the little one's name? Riker. Riker. It's like anime. He's like, they're
both gorgeous. No, but Riker's. Your whole family is like the cutest. He's like a legit,
he needs to get in a movie or something. Just your four blondes, not four non-blondes,
you are just four blondes.
You are just the cutest family ever.
I was wearing those Meta glasses,
hoping Meta would DM me, you know?
All they did was comment, I'll take a comment,
but that's with the level I'm at,
like pre-trying to get the ad.
So I wore these goofy looking glasses for a whole day.
Not goofy, they not goofy. They're
amazing. They're amazing. Peter has them and so does Drake. I actually love them. I couldn't
believe how much they just need more battery. So Drake wore them as he was getting his degree
at ASU. And it right. He goes, I was so distracted because there was this really drunk kid that
they were like, you're not going to walk. You're too wasted.
And the kid was begging.
And so we saw it all on the meta glasses.
And then finally, he's like crying.
And the guy's like, OK, man, you better not fuck it up.
I'll let you get your degree.
And he's hugging him.
He's like, I'm sorry, man.
Because I should have been drinking all day,
like these kids.
And so they are really fun.
These glasses are great.
Peter walks around talking to people with them me too and it sounds amazing and now because
I used to not I used to think AI was not helpful but then people I know live off
of chat GBT yeah and then I saw a meta AI so now I'm just talking to meta AI all
day I'm like hey meta AI how do I get rich and famous? Here are your steps.
So I am trying to get a campaign. So I'm going to wear them until I wore the original ones
seven years ago. The Snapchat had the spectacles and I wore them everywhere. So I'm like, I mean,
so yes, you want to sponsor Juicyers would do the customs gook. Okay, so
This was crazy. Let me tell this story
This is the first time I felt famous ever. Okay, tell the story
So we get invited we always go to these explain what this is because this is monster jam. Sorry forget
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So this was the Monster Jam at SoFi Stadium.
And it's perfect because our sons actually are obsessed
with A, these little Monster Jam trucks,
and then B, obviously we love Blippi.
And there's some controversy about some of you like,
you guys like Blippi?
There's a new Blippi, by's some controversy about some of you like you guys like blue There's a new Blippi by the way, his name is Clayton. He was casted by the new Blippi owners
Blippi is now on Netflix. So people were like in my DMS like you support Blippi
Blippi is a kids show
But there was some controversy with old Blippi. I have nothing to do with that. I'm just saying new
There's a new Blippi. When my kids were little it was Blue's Clues. So just so everyone knows this is new Blippi. When my kids were little, it was Blue's Clues. So just so everyone knows, this is new Blippi.
They had a new Blue's Clues, too, that switched out.
And they said, oh, the old one's going to college.
And then he...
The old one got 20 million, so he's at the frickin'...
The old Blippi got 20 million.
Maybe 30.
Why? Why did he get so...
Because he sold...
He owned Blippi.
He owned Blippi.
He created Blippi.
So that guy has some drama.
Because before he's Blippi, I guess he did
other types of entertainment.
No way.
That's what I don't know.
His sister has messaged me, she's very nice,
and I have nothing against anyone's,
I don't know all the information,
but sometimes I get attacked in the DMs,
I can't believe you.
I'm like, do your Blippi you. I'm like do your blipy research
I'm with the new blipy that is clean
cut for the rolls everywhere this wife who's lovely and they're angelic people so
Back to what I was saying. Sorry. I've had so much caffeine to get here on my drive. Okay, so
And I had a Benadryl. So, just a lot of allergies. So, okay. So,
Monster Jam and they love Blippi. My little two and a half year old saw Blippi at Monster
Jam. That's one of his favorite episodes. So, he kept on saying, we're going to go see
Munchim and Blippi. And we're like, no, Blippi won't be there. And he would cry for like a week and a half.
Every time we're trying, I'm like,
this is supposed to be positive.
We're like, Blippi's not there.
We pull up, we get there, guess who's there?
Blippi.
And so it's just everything's coming together.
And the head of Marquee, the PR company for Spin Master
that does the toys,
comes up and they're like, they've asked if you guys will be the grand marshal.
Keep in mind, respectfully, there's buff-ass Dax Shepard with all his muscles.
He didn't really like my joke when I told him to chill on the push-ups.
So there's like, you know, Mandy Moore, Ashley Simpson, a lot of names I'm forgetting, but,
you know, respectfully Moore, Ashley Simpson, a lot of names I'm forgetting, but you know,
respectfully actual celebrities there.
So they're asking us to be introduced.
This is Monster Jam, start the engines.
We're like, definitely.
So that was a moment where,
this is the first time I didn't feel like the F-list,
you know, they brought us to the front.
It felt incredible and Gunnar got to yell and the thing.
So that was amazing. But then the best part about this is
When Brody and I were like 20 years old, we met Mandy Moore Brody Jenner. There's no other Brody
Oh, just the gorgeous. Yeah your favorite hunk in the world. So Brody and I met Mandy Moore
When she was peak famous we were like 20 years old at the one and only
Hotel we hung out nobody hooked up. It was just all fun friends when she was peak famous, we were like 20 years old at the one and only hotel.
We hung out, nobody hooked up.
It was just all fun friends.
So that was my Mandy Moore.
I always loved Mandy Moore.
Again, total cool friendship, nobody hooked up,
so it's not some weirdness.
And so when the house was all burned down,
people were trying to cancel her for putting, like,
a GoFundMe link that obviously somebody in her family or friends asked her to share, which she's not rich enough to go buy somebody
else a new house.
Right.
Yeah.
She's not fucking Elon Musk or Bezos where they're putting a GoFundMe.
So people were trying to cancel her.
So I did a bunch of TikToks when I had my peak TikTok fame, like, you come for me anymore.
So I forgot I even did that because I've done a lot of TikToks and I had my peak TikTok fame, like, you've come for me anymore, da-da-da. So I forgot I even did that, because I've done a lot
of TikToks, and I was unhinged.
And so she comes up to me and is like, I just want to thank
you so much for your TikToks.
Give me a back.
I'm like, well, in that case, guess what you have to do?
She's like, huh?
I'm like, you got to come out of retirement
and do a song with Heidi.
She's like, huh?
And like her husband's like supportive and her friends support her. I'm like, it's done. You're doing this. She's like come out of retirement and do a song with Heidi. She's like, huh? And her husband's supportive and her friends support her.
I'm like, it's done, you're doing this.
She's like, really?
You think?
I'm like, you have to do this for me.
So she said she would.
So I talked to all the top.
I messaged Timberland, Circuit, all these top producers
to do a remake flip, as they call it,
of Candy for her and Heidi to do.
And then Heidi rolls up on Ashley Simpson,
I didn't know this separately,
and gets Ashley Simpson to say she'll do.
So we got a Mandy Moore Heidi song
and Ashley Simpson Heidi song in the works.
I mean, so in doing these songs,
what is the, how does she do it?
Does she write any of them?
Does she work with a writer?
Like, how are you coming up with these names and these bops?
So here's the best thing that we keep being told
by the real deal people.
Yeah.
Rihanna, who has more hits than anyone,
didn't write one of her songs.
And why she has the most hits is she
didn't go in the studio, try to take the most talented people
in the world, and mess their flow up.
So the problem with today's artists, and there are some that can write, you know, Taylor,
but a lot of the other ones, they have to be in the session with the top writer producers
putting in their two cents.
Heidi's well aware of what her strengths are and not being a number one Billboard writer. So we're getting
records for Heidi that you wouldn't have gotten in 2005 because there were
artists like Rihanna that would just take their called pitch records. So
superstar producers and writers do a record and they pitch it to the labels.
But now the labels aren't taking these records because their artists have to be in the session
and get a co-writer credit.
And a lot of the top people don't even want to do that
with people, so we're getting these insane records
because the real competition has to write from scratch.
Oh.
So we're getting the game changed.
It's a miracle that now everyone's so like,
I wrote my song, whereas Heidi doesn't need to say that.
She did write, no going,
no, she wrote Forgive and Forget with Cali.
Technically, she did write, no going home.
She didn't take a credit.
You know what I mean?
She was part of that, but she's not like doing the heart.
Let the writers get their writers share. We're the label, she owns the masters. So everybody
gets their piece and everyone's happy. But we share the streaming part of the masters
with the producers. It's just like people love working with Heidi.
You are making money from the songs.
We made the most money from China a year ago.
From when they were first playing?
I'll Do It.
I'll Do It all the time.
So that was the peak.
Before the fire.
Before the fire.
So it was actually better in our house with I'll Do It in China.
But now the bigger picture is Heidi's at 3.9 million monthly listeners are on Spotify
So if anyone is here on a juicy scoop and you have Spotify and you have an added
Heidi's profile, please do it because that monthly listener is like it's the new modern clout of like who's a pop star
So right that creates all these opportunities.
So that doesn't cost anything.
No, Spotify is free.
So these people can just add Heidi's music
to their Spotify.
Do your Christian service.
Yeah, actually don't add her Christian song
because we get zero from that.
That was a shady, the Christians played us on that one.
What was that story?
I'm not even gonna say the name of the song. When did she do that? She's on the Hills reboot, which was
respectfully the dumbest thing we did. We should have just done all do it. But you know, it was
like a fun idea and she was gonna do a Christian album and then they told her she wasn't Christian
enough to do a Christian album. So I pray for those Christian souls because God does not love
judgment. So regardless, do your Christian duty.
You know, if you're a real Christian, cover your ears. You know, I want you to know some of these songs are.
No, I always just say.
No going home is very Christian.
Yeah, I always just say what the reason I say Christian service is I've knew Juicy Scoop for 10 years.
And I used to say, you know, subscribe, spread the word at Juicy Scoop,
like you would Jesus Christ.
Kind of joking, but being a Catholic,
to get people to know about Juicy Scoop.
So then some people said that,
they don't like that I'm saying it like that.
I'm like, whatever, fine.
But it really came from, if you go to Catholic school,
I don't know how it is at Christian schools,
but any private Catholic school you go to, you have to get a certain amount of hours of Christian service. It's
part of the religion class. So it was always in my head, even after I finished school,
anytime I do something, I'd be like, I'm going to put it towards my Christian service hours.
So that is where it comes like do your Christian service and easily just open your phone
and do this one little thing
and subscribe to Heidi on the Spotify.
And it's just a simple thing to do.
You don't have to go put out a credit card,
nothing like that.
But then you can buy the album and pre-order the album,
which would be an extra nice thing to do.
I would say do your Jewish service, your Muslim service, your...
Exactly, Scientology, your Mormon.
Just do a nice thing.
Put it out in the universe.
You know, there's some trolls that watch this.
Do your demon service.
I know the real trolls listen to you.
So do your little demonic service at it as well.
Put something out for you to respond. I actually just had to respond,
because somebody wrote,
people don't understand that there's a modern sound
to certain songs.
These are the top people in the world doing,
the guy that mixes Heidi's song has 17 Grammys.
Jason Joshua did, it's all Beyonce's.
So somebody will DM me,
and they'll be like, it sounds like it's in a tunnel.
Like the guy has 17 Grammys.
He put that sound there for a reason.
I wrote back and I look in their bio
because I know like clockwork,
following the words of Jesus Christ, you know,
instantly I know that's the bio.
So I always say demons do that to like deter,
like it's like, it's ops.
It's like propaganda for the devil.
Like demons make fake Christian accounts and then like do that.
You know, like the Satanists run the account.
And so I write back, hey, demon, go, go pray with Jesus.
And they're like, I thought you changed.
I'm like, no, I still talk shit back to people, talk shit to my wife.
Same guy.
But yeah, I just haven't read when I walked in.
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I wanna talk about this other fun thing that you do
that you've been doing for a long time,
which is the bits that you do with the burritos and to the Enya song.
And recently they did a whole article about how you brought that Enya song up.
And it's singing this song, hallelujah, hallelujah.
And you find these burritos and you have like your kids do it and you'll be
shopping and you're like open a piece of bread and it's hidden in there.
And I don't listen, I can't be the only one
because you keep doing it, but it always,
I watched the whole one, it puts such a smile on my face.
I wanna know like, what started that
and then how much time a week do you have to put
into doing the burrito videos?
Okay, my best one ever is actually this morning.
Okay. So you got something to tune in for as a masterpiece. Okay, my best whatever is actually this morning. Okay. So you got something to tune in
for as a masterpiece. Okay. So years ago, eight years ago, I would say when I was really popping
Snapchat of the year, DJ Khaled, me, Kylie, my shtick before they got all weird with what you
could do was I'd pour an entire glass, entire bottle of white, sometimes
red, usually white, wine into one glass to Enya's only time.
And then I would do it with the wine.
And people love that to the point then Folgers jacked me and did a commercial with only time.
Everyone knew it was the timing when I was doing it.
It's not a coincidence.
No, but wait, I just want to start right there
because that's so interesting.
Malia Obama just was accused of,
she did a commercial, directed a commercial for Nike,
and this other girl did a very similar,
small short film that had like shot by shot
of these girls doing patty cake.
And you know,
the plagiarism that goes on, whether it's Mel Robbins saying,
you know, let them,
which came from this other girl's poem from two years ago or three years ago,
I feel like people at home don't care about plagiarism.
Unless you're a creator yourself, you do not care. And they,
no one cares about the Malia Obama thing,
and no one cares about the Mil Rob.
They're just like, so what?
So what that they took it?
I'm like, okay.
I mean.
So I felt that.
So then when that creator on TikTok,
I knew her, I have no brain cells.
I was like, oh my God, I should know her name,
like tattooed on me.
But she came up with a mix
of Pitbull and Heidi that went viral.
And so when I got Pitbull to agree,
I got her an executive producer credit
and like the label, the distribution label
and the lawyers like, this is not, it's a mashup.
You don't need to give her an executive producer credit.
And I was like, yes, we do.
This was her idea. And so she has an executive producer credit and I was like, yes, we do. This was her idea. And so she has an executive producer
credit. So they stole all my time. So then I switched, I pivoted to somehow I found Echoes in Rain,
which is the Hallelujah song. And I just, I used to eat so many, I've always eaten so many burritos.
So I did that for years on Snapchat.
But then randomly when I was so popping on TikTok
back a month ago,
I ate it two months ago, whatever.
I did it, I just did it.
And it was the one I think when I walked into the ocean,
cause I was crashing out and that went so viral.
And I was like,
Who filmed that one when you're in the
ocean with my buddy okay cuz I was like there's no way it's Heidi but okay
does Heidi have to film a lot of this stuff most of them now I have I call a
guy sometimes I ask the waiters to do it like if I know the people or like this
grocery store one that was that was that was the lady at the checkout so you do
ask people and they get excited and they recognize you
and they know what you're doing.
Or do you ever have to explain to a total stranger
that you're just like this?
Well, I always have to explain like today's took
like two takes because, spoiler alert,
today I had a stack of pancakes
and I had them hollow out the pancakes
and stick the burrito inside and then cover the pancake.
But I told them, they just, people forget,
you can't cut the burrito in half
because then it becomes a wrap.
Can't be dancing with a wrap.
And I'm like, is that a spinach wrap?
Like, what do you do?
Is that a Caesar salad wrap?
Has to be a burrito.
So when I got it, I was like, oh my God.
So that sometimes takes a process of,
no, it has to be a burrito.
But depending on the situation. So it blew up the water one. So that sometimes takes a process of no, it has to be a burrito, but
Depending on the situation so it blew up the water one and I said Heidi I can't be jumping in the ocean and it tasted like salt no matter how much I was like
I can't have any eating a salt water. I don't want to be getting the ocean every day
So I just started figuring out, you know ways to keep it more entertaining
But then I read I'm, people get used to it.
I'm like, I gotta hide them and stuff
and make it more like, what's the reveal?
So now my brain is scary trying to figure out
where to hide a burrito.
So, like I said, your day you wake up,
you have kid stuff to do.
Then you have to figure out what burrito hiding place
is gonna be, and film that video.
Then you have to figure out what burrito hiding place is going to be and film that video.
Then you have to go and find more stuff for Heidi, to promote Heidi. Do your TikToks,
cry about your TikToks going down. Then talk to the lawyers about the Palisades Firelocks case.
Now also, I'm also suing the insurance
because they only decided to pay half
of what was in the policy.
So a new lawsuit suing California Fair Plan.
So, I mean, it's the level, but.
Do you sleep?
I just started today.
Yesterday was my first day in a hyperbaric chamber
where they locked me up in a thing,
which I thought I would sleep in it,
but my ears like.
Yeah. Yes and no.
I'm having lots of medical things happening to me.
So I'm like, I'm working on getting better.
But I am feeling the fleeting, and I always knew this,
you have a moment, David Foster told me,
the mic comes in front of your face,
if you don't grab it, it goes to the next person,
it's not coming back.
And I already had it, and it went away.
And it came back, and now they're
trying to take it away again.
So I am going 1,000 times what I've ever gone right now,
because this is it.
I have to rebuild a house for my family,
rebuild everything that was in it,
and then I need to figure out how to also help
my parents, who had zero insurance
Get a house. So the stakes are yeah, I used to hustle chilling, you know
My parents had a big house down the street in Palisades. We go in their swimming pool
I had a house we lived in I felt at hummingbirds and I still hustled and was crazy. So now
I'm like I said I was in the gutter. I'm in the sewers below the gutter now grinding.
But no, I don't sleep.
But, what were we talking about?
You don't sleep, okay so.
Oh my schedule, really what my schedule is.
What people can't fathom.
Is Heidi, who's now one of the top people
gonna argue with me all day long,
top pop stars in the world.
And I'm not saying that
like as a hype person, I'm saying numbers wise. You know, obviously there's Taylor Swift,
Sabrina Carpenter, there's Dua Lipa, there's 10 of those megastars. Then it drops down
to zero and now you build from there and Heidi's in that top. So like how I said, I wasn't
in the Kevin Hart and I was in the F, behind the Taylor Swift,
there's only one next level
and that's the Heidi tier with these.
So she is in a real, that's why she's performing next week
in front of 32,000 people in England with Kesha, Sierra.
So she-
And how does she feel?
Is she ready for it?
Oh, she's rehearsing every day.
That's awesome. It has the top
Everyone she's like a machine
Stopped drinking wine now for the three months and Heidi loves wine
So she's so confident to the point where she's sounding so good there dialing back the dancing to like focus on
Just how good the vocals are sounding and like why is there is there?
and just how good the vocals are sounding. And like, why is there, is there?
Like, there should be a,
I mean, I feel like you have documented it with all your,
but I mean, this is the kind of thing, as you describe it,
that should be like a documentary.
Has any documentary company come and been like,
we wanna see it?
Cause a lot of people were like, we wanna-
Hulu has it.
We shot it with Hulu.
Oh, you do have it.
We have it with Hulu.
I love Hulu, but they have such a busy schedule of hits.
Shout out my favorite show, The Mormon Wives.
That is, Heidi has, I think, I'm gonna say 10.
Let's bring it at least eight songs.
Harder, harder.
Harder hits on there.
Go harder. I saw it.
But she has eight songs on the show.
Well, I've been promoting Mormon Wives.
It's good.
So you're promoting Heidi.
So I love them. And so they just have a lot.
They got the new Alex Cooper show,
which I'm hoping Heidi's music is also gonna be on.
What is that?
Just following her life?
No, it's a, she will, she has a docu-series.
It's gonna be on Hulu.
That's going on six episodes,
but she also has a dating format coming out
called Overboard for Love
with Jeff Jenkins production company.
I love Jeff Jenkins.
So Hi 80s music will also be on Hulu.
So it's kind of interesting because I feel like everyone was like, oh, let's watch them
do a reality show and rebuild their house.
We know the actual rebuilding and where the fun part would be visually when you're actually
like putting in the cabinets
and putting in pillows is years away.
So I think what you did, it's such a unique pivot
that I don't think the person at home
that loved you guys and watched it would have thought,
like that the music is being put in these shows
and that you then are
going this other route of just promoting her. And it's just I
think it's just like a fascinating story. I mean, I
know you and I know like your heart and and you guys as a
couple, which I've always been like is so fascinating. And I
think people love that too. You know that you guys have this
good marriage and you really are real.
Sorry, when I have this much caffeine,
sometimes my eye starts twitching.
I'm like, oh no.
But I think people die over that.
And so I think this has really been fun to watch.
I think the good news is the show of rebuilding a house,
God willing, could be in a year.
So we built, because in a perfect world,
we get rich enough from pushing this music,
going global, doing all these big events she has coming up
where we do have the money,
or in a miracle world, the lawsuits, they settle.
We get a big old check from LA or L-A-W-L-A-D-W-P
or California Fair Plan.
And then we have the money to actually build the house
and do one of those like house building shows.
Right, which is super fun.
Yeah.
Everyone always loves those, too.
And with the town and involving small businesses.
You know, there's that.
Right.
But in a perfect world,
the one I'm energetically putting my life into we just don't stop
because
You know to get like I'll do it just pass a hundred and three million streams
So we're used to this new world of like where we're used to hearing these numbers
But think about a big star back in our era
hearing these numbers, but think about a big star back in our era, they'd go platinum.
One million people buy it.
So one million people heard that.
Maybe they listened to it 200 times, 300,
but to get to 103 million on just one song
and then the one, then the sped up behind that is 33 million.
The one behind that is 25 million.
That's not counting Apple music, Amazon music, Deezer.
So it's so much bigger than we even can conceptualize
because we're so used to these big numbers.
Taylor Swift, a billion, a billion.
Nobody else is like, it's alien stuff.
Famous people.
Well, I love you from the moment you came
to my first show.
The first time you came on the show,
we were at our
old building in Calabasas and you'd gotten there early and you were like, I just went
to Gelson's trying to see if anyone would recognize me and nobody did. And I just thought
that was so funny. And it's just the honesty that I think is like the most charming thing.
Like you, you've been the most transparent person about your life in the last 15 years
since the Hills thing ended.
And now we know even that was manufactured
and things like that.
So now people are like, oh my gosh,
now I get it all and it all makes sense.
So I love it.
Let's get to some other topics.
Oh my gosh.
So Justin Bieber, there's a whole TMZ thing on it.
What is going on with him?
That he was broke, that he had to borrow money from Scooter Braun, that he had to sell his
music category for $200 million.
And the thought was, why would he sell that?
He's so young.
What is going on?
We've seen him look a little disheveled and whatnot.
What's going on with him and Haley Bieber?
But then they were snuggling out a game together
like a couple days, some basketball, oh no, hockey games,
some Canadian hockey team, they were there.
And, you know, there's just to fill people
and there's always been a lot of videos
and people thinking that, you know, Hailey Bieber
sought after him, was like a stalker, was, you know, at events that he was at, even though her
dad is famous too. So it's not crazy that she did these events. Got him to fall in love with her.
He's on a couch with Ellen saying it was an arranged marriage, it was through their pastor, and of course everyone thought he was joking and people
like, is there truth to that?
Hayley Beaver has a huge makeup line herself called Road that's apparently very, very successful.
She's also a model.
So she gets on the cover of Vogue and Justin posts it on his page and writes this.
Yo, this reminds me when Haley and I got into a huge fight.
I told Hales that she would never be on the cover of Vogue.
Yikes, I know, so mean.
For some reason, people, I felt so disrespected.
I thought, I gotta get even.
I think as we mature, we realize that we're not helping anything by getting even. We're honestly
just prolonging what we really want, which is intimacy and connection. Sorry, Perez's comment
is phenomenal. Yeah, sadly you were mistaken. So it goes, so baby, you already know, but forgive
me for saying you wouldn't get a vote cover because clearly
I was sadly mistaken.
And then Perez wrote, sadly you were mistaken.
No, you're wrong.
Sadly, in caps because why would you be sadly mistaken?
Thankfully, I'm mistaken.
Okay, so this is what I think.
Okay.
So everybody, you know, not everybody, lots of people that do really great content on this.
And I actually commented on one of the girls,
Els Rich is her name, she's really good on Instagram.
And she was like, girl, your husband hates you.
Justin hates you, we've seen where he's like
slammed the door practically on her leg
while she's getting in a car,
where she's driving the car,
where he and his friends are in the back,
where she's running after him.
What is this marriage?
What is this about?
He's, it gets deleted after a couple hours, this thing.
And this is what I think.
I think she wrote it.
I think that she wrote this.
I think she got on his phone.
This is just me.
And people don't agree with me because I put this in this girl's car. It's the hottest take I've heard she wrote this. I think she got on his phone. This is just me. And people don't agree with me, because I put this in this girl's call.
It's the hottest take I've heard in a minute.
Because think of, okay, let me just tell you.
Just like how you said, the demons have the Christian whatever.
I'm telling you, this was, I think he did say that to her once.
I think he has been mean to her for many years.
They don't want to get divorced.
They have a baby together.
But in a moment, she was like, oh, I'm
going to write this because this is true.
You felt disrespected.
What you want is a connection, but you're just a dick to me.
She wrote it so people would be like, oh my god,
he's fucking awful.
And Haley is amazing.
I think they are very weird.
I think they have a very weird relationship.
Doesn't mean it won't last forever.
I think it's unusual.
And then when she realized the reaction
it was getting and everything,
then either he took it down or whatever.
But I don't believe that the Justin Bieber
I'm seeing walking around being whatever wrote this.
That's my personal opinion. I think there's something weird going on and I think she did it.
I would believe that but I don't think she has his code. I think that's the level of relationship
they're at. I don't think she has his phone code to get into his phone.
Okay, that's a good point.
I 100% could be wrong.
We'll never know the truth.
So then she goes and does a fun video
to promote the Vogue cover.
And I thought it was really clever.
It's like, what's in your bag, Haley.
So she goes, oh, I have this, this, here's my phone
and here's my five other phones.
This is my burner phone, this is this,
this is how I can comment.
And she's making fun of the fact
of everything that everybody has said, including me.
Do you have a burner for like,
are you writing as Justin?
So I thought that was smart that she made a joke.
And then she goes, and then this is this witch's oil.
This is when I met a witch years ago
who gave me this oil that if I took these
drops on my tongue I would marry a Canadian pop star. Like again, I'm not a stalker. You guys have
said all this about me. I'm now mocking the story. Stephen Baldwin is not going to like that witch
joke. Let me tell you. Stephen Baldwin is not going to like that. But it's a joke. So she's joking.
Of course she's not a witch.
Of course she didn't do witchery.
Of course maybe somebody helped write her this.
Maybe the people at Vogue that think they're funny
was like, why didn't you get ahead of it?
I don't know how it came about.
I think it was smart because it's a lot more interesting
than if she really did talk about her favorite,
road lip gloss and whatever, hand lotion.
Oh my gosh, I didn't even notice the perfume says Nepal. You know, I also think this is
her. Okay. No, why she wrote this is I have a memory for very weird insignificant things.
And I remember Kim Kardashian saying that she was, had a publicist that she was paying a
lot for.
And she said, one, I want to be on the cover of magazines.
That's my goal.
And the publicist said, sorry, honey, you will never be on the cover of a magazine.
That's not you.
We're going to try to get you to be like a Julianne Arancic.
And she was like, well, if the person I'm hiring doesn't see me in the space that I
do, then goodbye. It's a great lesson, you know? And I just feel it's one of those stories.
Somebody told her or somebody said it, you know, you'll never be on the cover of Vogue.
It's such a specific thing. I don't believe that Justin Bieber ever said in a fight. You'll never be on the cover of Vogue
I do. I do. I'll tell you why. This is why it's such a juicy debate. Tell me why. I'll tell you why.
And I could be wrong. Some people, and I've witnessed it, in some relationships
there's certain, whether it's the man or the woman or whatever gender doesn't matter
the man or the woman or whatever gender, doesn't matter. Somebody who has more fame,
when the other person starts getting more attention
and they didn't marry a person with more attention,
there is this resentment that makes it not work.
And I could name examples that I know in my head right now
that I've witnessed and then it doesn't work.
And now you can say he's Justin Bieber, he's got all his hits,
but he has, respectfully,
has not had a hit in years.
She has a hit.
She had the Hailey Bieber.
His last hit was the lonely song.
I'm so lonely, I love that song.
I know the music game is, it was last week,
you know, you don't have a hit.
So she has a hit with the smoothie,
and now she has a future billion dollar road
is gonna be a billion dollar.
And I think once it's said and done,
if they really do have a bad relationship,
second it's locked in and she's like
officially Kylie Jenner money, which is so close,
she'll leave him if it is bad
and it will know if it is a good relationship
because she's gonna get to a billion for sure.
If what we witness is really true, which seems like he's not a great husband, I really hope
she does.
She won't need this.
If he doesn't change and get well and start producing music to make himself feel better
and she shouldn't have to be driving him around and him, you know, whatever,
all the video that we see that just looks like
he's not very into her or respectful.
I hope that she does do whatever's best
for her and her child.
I, we've talked about it before
and I keep going back to it.
And I know we'll bring him up.
Yeah.
But if something happened with him and Diddy
and he has this fear and panic
that his story is gonna be told,
so he's spiraling and taking it out
and lashing out in the world
and maybe doing whatever he's doing
that's making him do these,
because if the video of him having the overnight
with Diddy, no matter how you look at it,
even if he didn't do anything to Diddy, didn't do anything to Bieber be just the fact that he had to spend the night at Diddy's as a kid
We can 48 hours and did he even if they didn't do anything the weirdness that now he's like this guy was a
Not just a criminal. What's the wording like a sex offender criminal that frequency that now he has that
Taint that energy so I also think that could just be coming out more than ever right now.
And there's the Selena getting married to such a successful, nice guy that everyone loves,
who's Internet's favorite guy.
It's just a lot. So I'm not making excuses for him, but that's why I'm thinking
if these things were affecting him, you could type that up quick
I mean Justin Bieber was a child star the big one of the biggest child stars
So is Britney Spears. So is Amanda Bynes
it's it can fuck you up and
He yeah, another thing before I forget because I have brain things. Yeah. He's also publicly smoking nonstop amounts of marijuana.
And the brand he's picking, I know the owner is CBX.
It's a very clean brand, but it is the most potent.
This is not normal marijuana.
This is like, crazy.
This is like the tier one most expensive.
This is not weed he's smoking.
This is making you, so if he's high out his mind off of this
and this isn't like what you smoke in Canada.
Maybe he got used to Canadian weed.
This is that LA, California, Kush.
So not only he's got all his emotions going on,
he's so high, you could type that up, crazy high.
Well, I mean, as I've told the stories
of when he was on Chelsea lately, the kid was so sick.
I'm like, aren't we gonna cancel the day?
They're like, no, a doctor's coming to give him a B12 shot.
Well, like, just mal, like, just hell?
No, just like a little kid, like a 14-year-old
that's really fucking sick that would stay home
from school for a week, like sick.
Out doing the hustling.
Just being a sick kid that can like,
but not talk, have a cold, everything.
And the doctor came to give him the B12 shots
and he had to do the show.
And then, you know, there's been compilation videos
from, you know, Jenny McCarthy to Leah Remini
to all these other women and James Corden,
like right in their face being like,
you're so hot, you're so young,
when do you turn, you know, 18 and all this,
and just all the creepy stuff.
And he's like, I have young,
and was like, one of the things that the Leah Remini
had said, and this is just a video that's out there,
and I get it, producers tell you to do it,
and I'm not bagging on her,
but imagine if you're him.
And it was like, okay, you have to decide.
You have to strip naked and run around
or eat a worm sandwich or something.
And he goes, I'm not answering that question.
I have little girl fans
and there's little girls in the audience.
And she's like, no, you have to answer it.
And it just was one of those things.
We did a skit where we were dressed,
two other girls died, that were in the hallway,
acting like we wanted to meet them.
And we were like, it's poor.
It was poor taste. It was bad.
It wouldn't happen today.
It's inappropriate, all of it.
But because he was a boy...
It's okay.
It seemed like... You know what I mean?
We thought it was like less than five
men were doing that to a 15 year old girl. So then he has that, he has the Diddy thing
happen. Getting into the Diddy stuff, what's crazy is another great compilation tape that
came across, whoever made it, of all the time Wendy Williams had talked about P. Diddy. And she had a radio show.
And she said he had one of the girl groups out there
to beat her up after she talked about him.
She talked about it.
It's amazing.
Every time she talked about it and called about what it was.
What's insane is we all talk about the conspiracies of how did Kim Porter die
of pneumonia? Okay. How did Dr. Frank Ryan drive off the cliff? Right, exactly. How did, um, how did
Bernie Mac die? That was something he died of some mysterious illness to, and he was coming up, and
he was a big comedian, big, he's a black, very funny comedian, and kind
of what Cat Williams was saying. So it is in kind of crazy that Steve Harvey and he
had been friends for 25 years and Steve Harvey's stepdaughter, who he's raised and she was
little, was dating P. Diddy's son and then was dating P. Diddy all within
the last few years. Very strange, right? I think the word is creepy. Creepy, strange.
Why? Yeah, there's a lot of guys. You're telling me that Steve Harvey didn't look, it's what
you wouldn't know the reputate. You wouldn't be like, you're absolutely not dating P. Diddy.
Like even if you didn't know about freak off,
you would have enough knowledge that he has multiple girlfriends,
you know, and now that we know from the case, the freak off stuff,
you know, he's obviously loved watching naked men,
so he's gay or bisexual, whatever.
He's a sex addict.
All the awful things that happened to Cassie, we know,
and the trial is going on.
Now they've got the, her mother spoke about it,
how he wanted, how he was like, give me $20,000
because Cassie broke up with me
and I want my $20,000 back or else.
So she didn't like give him $20,000 and then he goes,
fine, you could have
it back. And then they get back together. It was an awful, awful relationship. We could
all agree with that. Now they have got some of these dancers and escorts coming and speaking
about it, which is all the same stuff with the everything they had to do. And even when
he went, even when they were going to seize his property and he knew it, he went, even when they were gonna seize his property,
and he knew it, he went and was ready preparing
for his last freak off before arrest.
He brought all the baby oil and everything
when they found him on his last vacation.
On the boat?
Yes.
How many seconds of a song are you allowed
to play on YouTube?
Play it. I saw somebody TikTok that and they were like, listen to these lyrics now that we know her
hit song is about all these guys.
They know what I do.
They've been hearing like he made her even sing about the freak offs.
I think that was her first and only hit at 19. He was 36. He then became her
boyfriend, did all these things. She signed a 10 year record deal,
recorded a hundred songs that nobody ever heard.
Only put the freak off song out.
And then she had to just be the freak off person.. It is so... And then, of course, it all just comes down to,
was his business involved,
was his legit businesses...
Yeah, it was his legit businesses
involved in criminal activity,
which this is prostitution is criminal activity.
Well, they'll never be able to prove it
because it's all not on paper
and it's all like these handshake...
No, I'm saying they're like the big dog powers that be
that were, you know, the diddy,
invited and put with the girl,
because they... The real powers
weren't actually having sex in front of everybody.
He could have been a coordinator for the entertainment business,
getting these women or men that were in the freak-offs
to a hotel with a power that be in the, you know,
so it could have been like a big pimp, you know, like.
I don't know if they just didn't have enough evidence
with other people or if these other people
who are powerful that might've been there
were able to remove themselves
from any kind of being mentioned in the trial.
But now I kind of think that the freak off stuff
he did not involve other famous people with.
Now...
But I think there could have been another,
the real freak-off, maybe they all got killed.
You know, if you were...
You were trafficked...
Oh, people disappearing.
They trafficked the women from whatever country,
bring them in.
They were in the freak-off that you are,
you say, what the real powers be,
and then disappear these women back to,
or men back to wherever.
You know, that's the level we're talking.
There's, you know, it's not, you know, boom.
And so many people are connected to Diddy,
either they, you know, were at parties,
or worked with him, or knew him, or,
and it doesn't mean that they knew
that he was at a hotel with Cassie
on a four day freak off every week.
I still think that there is a level
that you might have not known that
just because you went to his white party
and stuff like that.
I have a close friend who,
I don't wanna say what he did,
but he worked, works for athletes,
all these people, does whatever he does,
and he's worked on Diddy for years,
and I joked to him, like, oh, so are you,
you know, bad joke, you probably, he's like,
I was, obviously I'm too ugly, or I don't want to be good,
but I was, never saw any of this, so,
and this is somebody, you know, so,
certain people aren't included in the club.
But this is what I think it is, and I've said it a lot.
I've never done a line of cocaine.
And when people would be doing cocaine at parties
or whatever, I can honestly say,
except for one time like in college,
I've actually never seen it laid out and done it because I think the people that do that only include people that also do it.
So I think that no, that's why they were hiring these people from other states.
That's why he's wearing a Muslim veil and the guy didn't even know that P. Diddy was
who it was.
Cassie had a wig on.
I think they did keep this very
secret and maybe but yes, do I think his assistants and things knew? Yeah. But do I think other
big celebrities were part of it? I don't. I don't. I mean, I think there were all these
conspiracies. People talked about Jay-Z and things like that. I don't know. I think that's
going to be a real I don't know that we I don't know. I think that's gonna be a real, I don't know that we,
I don't know A, that we'll ever know for sure,
but I also would lean towards, no,
he didn't get other big stars involved.
One thing I've learned about big-
But then, maybe that's how he got everyone
to stick with Bad Boy, is that he filmed them
and he had the blackmailing.
That's the other thing people are saying.
They filmed Cassie, so he's blackmailing her to stay.
Did he ever film anybody else, which is what I've always thought happened with Epstein,
is that he'd invite these billionaires and then they'd have crazy sex.
It's not a secret.
They had all the cameras in Epstein.
Right.
They'd have all that.
Then he would say, oh, well, the girl that was giving you a BJ last night is 16 years
old, so you better invest in my company.
And the tape goes away.
How did he become the biggest hedge fund person in the world?
With no trades or whatever.
We was teaching math at a private school.
But even that, how he got that job at that private school is even fishy because-
We were doing every graduate from college or something.
Yeah, and it was like this elite school.
But it is, you know, if the government wins what they are trying to get, they could actually
take all of his money that's left.
The $400 million that's left could go to the government.
So when you wonder why his kids
and everybody are standing behind him,
that's their livelihood and that's their generational wealth.
They do not want that to go away.
Also, they don't wanna believe that the dad
did awful mean things that weren't consensual, but still.
The wireless theory that I saw
I don't know how true it is, but this all
opened up in this case really only happened because he
Sued sirac and the owners of sirac are just this mobbed out
Ultra
Billion right I remember this story billionaire. That's kind of what said it like you don't mess with type powers of being.
Surok was part of a bigger thing.
Like a LVMH type huge thing in Europe and how these people got their money is however.
And so once he went to war with them, they're like, okay. And he won. And so they're like, okay.
That's, I think that's a good,
because it's like this came so hot and fast
that it seems like somebody's like open it.
I think it was that, but it was also the Cassie thing.
Cassie suing is what also set off this thing,
because then they had a real person to testify.
I may have misread the TikTok I watched, but Cassie's husband watched her on FaceTime,
S-E-X, with Diddy?
No, I never heard that.
I think that was in the court case, that he was on FaceTime during one of the free golfs.
The Alex was? I thought that he was a personal trainer and then she got with him and
then like was seeing him or knew of him then broke finally broke free of Diddy. But at one time I
think they FaceTimed while she was out of free. Okay I don't know if that part is true. Okay
free Diddy protesters were being paid $20 an hour. So then, you know, 50 Cent loves an AI.
He wore the shirt, Free Diddy.
He has the best AI team, people.
And then he had, like, this whole AI thing of...
Why did they hate each other so much?
I didn't know he had some crazy beef with Diddy.
It must go back to New York and music.
I think it goes back to he is East Coast and Diddy.
No, Diddy's East Coast too.
They're both East Coast.
So there must have been.
I don't really know.
Maybe just, yeah, it must be some music thing.
Or he just thinks he's an asshole
and is happy to see him die.
I don't know.
There's a viral clip that I did see where 50 Cent just
had the big hit and Diddy tries to like big dog
him and he's like, I'm going to take you shopping.
I should take you shopping like in this clip backstage and Diddy says like, you're not
taking me shopping.
It was so search that clip later.
You're going to be like, like yeah, I was in like I'm gonna I'm gonna take you I'm gonna go take it or like you want to be one of my yeah freak offs
Like when we put you in like how they have meek Mill allegedly. Yes
The alleged thing is that meek Mill was one of his well the fit
There's a video where meek Mills in the pool like all laid, and he's like, dad says, one of them says,
or Diddy says to him, you know how daddy likes,
it's like, the wildest, like.
I don't joke with any guy that's in the pool,
and I'm like.
Yeah, there's probably people that came up
that did things that, in the beginning,
maybe it wasn't part of like a
freak-off with numerous witnesses, but maybe did something with him sexually,
and he's blackmailed him and that's why they've been quiet and stuck around. But
I think for these particular freak-offs that are being testified to, I don't
think they involve anyone else famous. We would know by now. Yeah. So this was the Wendy clip by Mr. Red Pills.
He put this together or posted it,
and it was just crazy all the times
that she interviewed him and talked about him.
Yeah, like he was such a favorite on Ellen too.
And there's that clip of him and Ellen.
I can't even, Ellen is there so much,
you go down to Ellen rabbit hole, you can't come out.
Yeah, and Ellen's, you know, she moved to Europe.
With their background of the Epstein match-in, like the blue matches Epstein's pyramid.
There's so much. I'm like, I don't even...
Okay, Spain, this is fun little news.
Spain is recruiting 10,000 volunteers to drink wine daily for four years.
They're supposed to have a glass of wine, one or two,
every day for four years, and they want to see if it really will affect their health
and their dementia.
Can they back date it? I think I've done 10.
They want people between 55 and 75, men and women, but it's just a volunteering. I don't
know if they give you the alcohol, if they send it to you, if you have to be in Spain. But the comments were so funny. And, you know, it is a good study because you see
a lot of people saying, you know, if it was, it would never be FDA approved today and this
and that. And then there's people that just, you know, drink every day of their life and
have a wonderful life. And have a wonderful life. Live till 95. Yeah, and have a wonderful life.
But yeah, there is a big movement to not drink.
Not drink.
I'm like, the amount of... I feel like you're drinking alcohol now is like smoking crack.
Some people are like, oh no, I don't drink.
I'm like, this is an organic, bio-dynamic wine.
They did it to the moon and stars out of the earth.
And it's great.
What are we confused about?
You know, so I have to like calm myself because I feel like I'm being so judged now with this
new like anti-drinking movement.
I don't know who's pushing it.
I think it's all these companies selling the non-alcoholic beverages.
Also the other thing that drives me nuts, and I'm happy for sober people and good for you and whatever, but the whole do a post,
two years not drinking, big deal.
I know, I'm sorry, this could be a total hot take,
but I don't think this deserves a post.
Like, oh, three days of me drinking.
Like, why are we, you know.
I'm sorry, that could be too hot, I'm sorry.
Recently, Chrissy, too hot, I'm sorry.
Recently, Chrissy, stay sober.
Chrissy Chrissy Teigen did say
marriage. John Legend did say
she went sober a few years ago.
And recently, she said,
I'm back to drinking or something.
And then Courtney Stodden,
who was the famous child bride,
who when she was on every hard copy, Chrissy Teigen tweeted
mean stuff to her like go take a dirt, you know, and, and, you know, Courtney Stodden
wants to remind the world of that a lot. And Chrissy has said like, I'm sorry, I think,
but whatever. So then Courtney made some joke about, you know, oh, I'm drinking and I'm
feeling like, why don't you respect the sobriety?
But it just goes to that whole thing about,
just everybody do you.
That's my point. If you do you,
it's a hard thing to say.
And there's so many things where people then,
they give up drinking, but they do smoke pot,
or they microdose, or they get rid of everything.
Or they go sober for five years,
and now they are able to have have a glass of wine or champagne.
And it's like, no, once you give it up,
you're supposed to give it up forever.
I'm like, that's two people that created AA 100 years ago.
We don't know what works or what doesn't.
And then you're also just like,
I don't know if it makes you happy
and it's not hurting anybody.
I mean, who's to say where we are going to be in five
years? Like I like a cocktail and I enjoy it and I, oh my gosh, we went.
I hope this is sponsored by an alcohol company. Let's get an alcohol ad right now. No, sorry.
I have my own, I have my own drink. I have my own drink at Casalina in Woodland Hills.
I have my own margarita at Delgado's in Carara, the Pratt and Hattie margarita.
Oh, okay, mine is a vodka based drink
and it's a martini and it's called the Juicy Scoop
at Casalina and Woodland Hills,
which is a beautiful restaurant, has Italian,
it's the best food.
It go with a few people
because you wanna try everything and share it.
But anyway, and that's, you know, but it's...
It's a weird like battle. That's what I'm feeling. I wonder cuz like people are not to be how old are you?
41 so you are millennial you're millennial. I'm a Gen X. Okay
Most Gen X's people their kids are Gen Z. They don't drink Gen Z's are they're not drinking
that much. Some are, but I'm telling you, we went to
the nest with a couple Gen Z's, my son and my friend's daughter and her friend. And you
know, so there was the four parents and three Gen Z's and they play music and my generation
is drinking, we're dancing. This one girl that was with us was like, I had
the best, she'd never partied harder than when she was with the Gen Xers. I was, I gave
her, I'm like, try my drink. It's a Cosmo, but it's done less sweet. It's really sour.
She's like, I think I drink twice a year. That was the funnest night of my life. They get
in an Uber to come back to our house.
The Uber is a karaoke Uber.
They were like, I'm like, the thing is also,
I don't feel like Gen Z, they don't really dance.
Like we would go to clubs and dance
or we'd have like frat parties and actually dance.
And I think that, I think we can bring everybody together.
I think we can bring everybody together and people need to get out and fucking party more and it's fine
If you don't want to drink but at least listen to some music and dance
That is why if you notice a lot of performers now ask the audience
Please for this song and I don't I'm I'm getting content
So I don't care what anybody says but they're not dancing because everyone's making sure they get content, the TikTok and Snapchat.
So you're like holding your phone to get the evidence
of you being at something, which I get you paid money for,
you got a show.
So it's all because of this social media construct
that you can't just like let loose.
And you know, people are filming you now.
So you're, the old world that we lived is like,
dance like nobody's watching.
Now you can't dance like nobody's watching
because somebody could be filming you
and making you like a cringe viral TikTok.
Like look at this idiot.
I recognized someone filming me when I was at The Nest.
Yeah, and they're going to like, yeah.
And I loved it.
Yeah, exactly. I don't care.
But there's people that care.
I was like bring it on. I'm having fun.
I don't care if I look like Elaine.
What's The Nest?
Yeah, The Nest is a restaurant in La Quinta.
I love you.
Just the local palm, La Quinta's palm springs. Nest is a restaurant in La Quinta. I love you. Just the local, La Quinta is Palm Springs.
Yeah, it's between La Quinta, yeah.
La Quinta is a little further than Palm Springs.
And it's been there forever and it's really good food.
And there is a lot-
Is that where the hotel is?
It's near the Sands Hotel.
What's the La Quinta Hotel?
La Quinta Hotel is like a franchise of hotels.
La Quinta is a city that I have the house at.
And this place is so, it's just fun
because it's just, because it's a variety of people.
When you get there earlier, it's like a little bit older.
But then when you, if you're leaving at 10,
there is a line of like 20 somethings
ready to like rip it.
Cause then there's, there's like the live music in front and in the back there's a DJ anyway so she it's a good
time it's just a fun time and it's just like I feel like there's not a lot of
places like that in LA anymore to go to the club scenes yeah not always say dad
there's so club but I mean from my era it's gone you know but see this isn't
this is what's great about this,
it's a restaurant with music that you can sit,
have a meal, get a drink and dance.
It's not you had to buy bottle service.
I think that's what happened.
Throws people off the pressure.
What happened in the millennial era
of the only way that you could get in as a dude
is to spend thousands of dollars on bottle service.
Like that didn't exist when I was young.
Yeah, that's like, yeah.
Gray goose and a Voss.
Yeah.
Like three grand.
Yeah, like that, so I think that, yeah,
they have to figure out a different way
to like get people together, whatever that is.
So Carl from Summer House is starting a sober bar.
He's attempting the sober bar.
And a lot of people say it's gonna be a challenge.
This was a post that someone sent me
because he raised 130,000 from investors
and he signed a seven year lease,
but it's 10 thousand a month but
he still hasn't built it out and in the end it will sell only serve non-alcoholic
drinks. I think he would be better off like just getting a permit for a park
because you don't need alcohol in the park and doing like one of these hangs
like they have in Venice that everyone goes to. Yeah, well there's a morning now,
there's morning coffee DJ day parties
where they do have the DJ and people just have coffee
and they're up and they're dancing.
There's something at some part that I keep seeing
and it's like you have to be so hot to be there
is like the like thing and they all sit on blankets.
And so, and again, sit on blankets and yeah, so and again anyone here is sober
You be sober. I love that for you. I just don't understand the it's just projecting things. It's like politics, sir
I don't need anybody tell me just just do whatever is happy, you know, that's my whole thing
I hang out with sober people all the time
It's just when the it gets that weird with the energy like oh you're drink
Oh, you're so like I could play it back to you like we give so that is my point. I don't care what people do
It's just once it becomes
this
Judgment thing and that's why I hate a judge
I don't judge yet you do whatever makes you happy as long as nobody's getting hurt and obviously there's people
Alcohol problems, that's not what I'm saying.
There's a viral video of Bert Kreischer
talking about why he loves drinking
and people have played it a million times.
And I related to it,
because it's one of those things that like,
I liked the ritual of all the occasions of drinking so much
that that's why I've always wanted to like make sure
I don't get to a place
where I would have to give it up, you know?
Like, so I wanted to respect it this whole time
and so far so good, but it is.
It was like the Bloody Mary at a football game.
Yeah, it's the champagne.
It's the first drink of the night
when you're like getting ready.
Espresso martini.
It's the juicy, sweet martini. It's the espresso martini if you're ready to go the night.
It's, you know, margaritas,
when you, the smell of a margarita
with chips and guacamole.
I like them, I like them all.
I like different glassware.
We should host a drinking party.
That is what's coming up.
Well, I'm definitely gonna have a party for Heidi's album release. Well, I'm definitely going to have a party
for Heidi's album release.
What is that going to be? Do you know?
Probably June 6.
You're out. Oh, yeah.
And that will have alcohol.
Make sure of it. So.
Well, I'm going to have a big thing
that I'll announce soon.
You'll be invited.
I'll give you the date to say the date.
I hope I hope that you're here. Is it in La Quinta?
No, it will be in LA.
Because this was a far enough drive for me.
We might as well have met in LA.
Everybody knows what to do.
You're going to go to Spotify.
You're going to tell them.
That's free if you have $10.
If you have $10, pre-order on Amazon Music,
Heidi Wood, or on, so there's the difference.
People get confused.
Apple Music, you have that on your phone no matter what.
iTunes is a different app.
It's like so confusing to people.
So you think you won on Apple Music and you got it,
that's just like the free, it's like having on Spotify.
If you wanna spend the money and pre-order,
you gotta go on iTunes and search Heidi Wood and pre-order because we need
15,000
pre-orders for Heidi to be in the billboard charts, which keeps her
So legitimate for all these top people that want to keep sending us these records
So it's not respectfully is not making us rich. You're not but you are but it's about it's about the whole and the longevity
This isn't just like a little blip yes, this is so important and the music is great and it is fun
We invested more than the $10 that you spend and the songs do really work really well in these fun shows like that
That the Hulu yeah, these are all the top people in the world.
This isn't Heidi on.
When we're going to see the Hulu the Hulu talk about you guys.
Maybe I'll never we got to pray for that one.
Okay.
You know it's just one thing I know about TV and yeah is so I I stopped playing pretend
after the house burned down you know because real is real.
So I love Hulu.
They keep putting Heidi's music in.
I'll keep pumping Hulu.
But us being on Hulu, that's in God's hands now.
OK.
Do your Christian service and pray for Heidi
and Cesar on Hulu coming in quarter four.
And I appreciate you always coming on the show,
because everyone loves you.
So thank you. Oh my god.
So thank you.
Choosy Scoobers come up to me more than anyone.
So I'm like, even if I didn't just love you,
I love the attention.
So keep coming up to me in public.
And love to your mom.
Oh, shout out Janet Pratt.
We're praying for you too.
Hang in there.
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