Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Spencer Pratt on LA Fire Lies and Fame

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Spencer Pratt holds nothing back in this explosive Juicy Scoop tell all interview. He clearly explains the lies and the cover-up that has caused LA to burn in more ways than just the Palisades fire. You’ll be shocked to hear all that Spencer has uncovered while also enjoying his always self deprecating and humble ways of explaining the heartbreaks of his life. We also get into some hot topics including the Beckhams, Pamela Anderson, Tommy Lee, Channing Tatum, Alix Earl and God. Enjoy! So juicy! -New listeners can get their choice between organic ground beef, chicken breast or ground turkey in every box for a year, PLUS $20 off when you go to https://butcherbox.com/juicyscoop   -Go to https://quince.com/juicy for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. -Go to https://RO.CO/JUICYSCOOP to see if you’re eligible for the new GLP-1 pill on Ro -Our listeners get 15% off plus free shipping when they buy two or more pairs of prescription glasses at https://warbyparker.com/juicyscoop — using our link helps support the show. #WarbyParker  #ad #sponsored  -Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at https://shopify.com/juicy  Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/juicycrimes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. You guys have been begging. You have missed him so much. I have our next mayor of Los Angeles, Mayor Spencer Pratt. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop. First time at this location at my home here. And I appreciate you so much for coming. I appreciate warning you that I could have a very crazy sickness. And you said, I don't care. I'll make you some warm tea. So if I sound extra sick, I'm not my normal sick-go energy. Now I'm just a sick-go that's sick. So thanks.

Yeah, this is way better than going anywhere else. This is a beautiful studio. Thank you. Well, first of all, I want to talk about the book. Spencer Pratt, the guy you loved to hate, loved past tense, okay? Because we don't hate you anymore. since your first appearance on Juicy Scoop and I changed your life. That's, thank you.

And let the world know what a true delight and smart and articulate and funny person that you are. Now this is your second book. I'm going to have to update the book actually in the, because I didn't mention that in the book. That juicy scoop changed your life. Yeah, it's quite right. I gave Snapchat the credit for it, but I will in the like, I think you can update it. I am going to be honest, because I will be honest, it was Juicy Scoopers telling me you have to look at Spencer Pratt's Snapchat.

Okay. So the book is authentic. He's amazing. And then I saw it. And then I reached out. And then you came and you were on time and you were like, I was just walking around in the Gelson's in Calabasasas because at the Calabasasas and trying to be recognized. And boy, nobody recognizes me anymore.

I think that was maybe like 2017 or something. And I just thought, I immediately found love with the honesty of you just being so frank about your life and everything that started with you first doing reality TV when you were the producers of the Princess of Malibu. Well, I think you're going to love this book because it is very authentic. So first off, I'm the first audiobook to have a famous vocal producer. Love it. and the second to have a Beyonce's mixer.

But yeah, the reading of the audiobook was so emotionally tolling because you really have to like breathe through your life out loud. So is the book your memoir? Because the other book was like a fun book. How to be famous. This is not fun. You're like, oh my God.

This is your memoirs like childhood, all the ups and downs of your career. It seems more like downs. That's what I was like, Jesus. What's this guy going to get a break? It's funny because like Mayor Karen Bass, her team is trying to act like

I'm running for mayor to promote this book, which I think is so funny. You literally burn my house down. I wish I was just feeding honeybirds. But this would be the last book you would write to try to run for political office. Right, because it's all your... Yeah, it's like somebody wrote a...

I put, it's like a hit piece on me. Right. It's like somebody else wrote it. I mean, when you think about like being a kid and you'd have to do like a book report on Lincoln. And obviously it wasn't that he shared a bed with another man and could possibly be gay. It was all the- Yeah, you don't know about that.

Wow. I know my history. Yeah. Well, that wasn't in the fourth grade book. It's like all the great things that he did is perfect childhood, whatever. So you're right. This is, you know, there isn't, you are not hiding anything. You know, this is, finding dirt on Spencer Pratt, you've told on yourself.

There's nothing, you don't need a whole group of people on the office. opposition side to like infiltrate, you know, your childhood. They should buy the book and just start pulling out paragraphs quick. I know that our juicy scupers love you and love your take on everything. So let's just get into what you have done in the last year. The anniversary of the horrific fires was just a couple weeks ago on the seventh, seventh, eighth, ninth, it just kept burning. and it's just amazing what you did from when did you really start to like uncover the truth i think once

the reality that hidey's music even though it was number one and all this how little money there is in music and i wasn't going to be able to rebuild and the reality of you know i still i got to live in that false hope for a good couple months and lots of margaritas and uh So I was delusional in that. There's a positive in this. This is going to be great. You're trying to make lemonade out of burned out lemon trees, the ashes of lemon trees.

And then when you find out that even millions of streams, like every is like 0.001 penny and like that hit me so hard. You know, Heidi was smart. Obviously never went along with my fantasy of this music's going to build our house back and get my parents' house back. And so she's very smart lady did not ever. She's like, okay, Spencer, go to sleep. So once that wore off and I'm just like, oh my God, we are so effed.

How did this happen? And now I'm, you know, I'm the lead plaintiff suing the city, suing LADWP, suing Newsom and the state of California. So with that, I'm part of the case. and I'm learning all of the things, all the negligence that was involved that led to all of this. I'm like, oh my God, this was all preventable. This wasn't hurricane winds. This wasn't an unprecedented.

So it just became my life now because I'm one of 10,000 other plaintiffs, as Newsom called us, opportunistic plaintiffs that are just trying to get 70% because I think that's the most you could even get. in a settlement from public entities, I could be wrong, is 70% of what you lost, not even, so we're not even trying to get like what we had, plus more. The most I think you can get is 70%, which is diabolical. So then I realized the literal effort that the media was trying to cover up with the mayor, with Newsom, to the point where I would put out these videos. with all this information, it would take three months before the LA Times would then kind of cover what I did because I think so many people were in their comments section, you know, on all their

posts, like, what about this to where it looked flagrant that they weren't choosing to cover that. So yeah, it's just yesterday I posted the video that we found out that the fire department for their after action report that I knew months ago because fire to fire, firemen, men, firefighters reached out and told me that the report was cooked. It was totally edited. There was like nine versions of it. And they told me that the chief that wrote it asked to have his name taken office. So I spent a long time tracking down one copy of the original. It was like out of a movie scene. I had to send. Do you feel like Aaron Brockovich? If I had gone personally, I would have, but I sent one of my crystal employees to like meet a firefighter at a

soccer AYSO game and take the photos. So I think I would have felt more of an investigator if I was doing it instead I like sent somebody to do it. But maybe that's what real investigators do. They send somebody. Well, that's what who Aaron Brockovich was. She worked for. Oh, so I would call McKenzie and Aaron Brockovich. But thanks for McKenzie. She drove out to the AYSO game. And so I got photos of how it was changed. But we found out yesterday that the fire department hired Reese Witherspoon and Charlize Theron's celebrity PR crisis firm, the lead company to help rewrite it. And obviously we know that's the mayor's. I mean, allegedly, you would assume that that's the mayor's office suggesting that they do a different version that doesn't show how much they failed.

So the best part about that is where do you think they got the money to write that report? the LA Fire Department Foundation, which is the charitable company, they use those funds. So it's just like back to fire aid. There's people that donate. You go on their site. There's no thing on the donation buttons and say, money here donated could be used to help whitewash after action reports that help lie on the truth of 12 people burning alive in 7,000 structures. So here's Joe Schmo or whoever donating, thinking they're helping build a fire station, fix fire trucks and then that money is used to do a cover-up.

There's a couple things that are just huge. And for those people that are juicy scoopers that don't live in LA and they are hearing bits and pieces, I just want to make clear again, we went to the fire age show. The tickets were very expensive because the money was going towards the victims. The sweatshirt I'm currently wearing, which is a nice sweatshirt, we were told the profits were going to the victims. Then the way I understand it is not one person in Altadena or Pacific Palisades has received one check, one penny from the fire rate. I have not talked to one person. If you are one of those people, can you let us know how you got your money? Do you know of anyone?

So after it came out and they were so exposed, like I think one person DM me and so they got from the music, gram, blah, blah, blah, blah. They maybe got $1,000. And then I wrote to them, what was the date on this? And it was like a week before the DM. So obviously, once they know I'm meeting with the IRS criminal investigators and they're making TikToks, if I'm one of these NGOs, I'm like, maybe we send out a couple thousand. But here's where it gets very obvious.

Latham and Watkins is the major law firm that Fire Aid hired to defend them. In their report, they say several of the NGOs involved in Fire Aid gave money directly to fire victims. So I Google it. I asked Chad. I ask Grong, feel free to do it yourself. The definition of several. I never found any definition that's more than 10.

The list of NGOs that took that $100 million is 200 plus. And NGO stand for? Fuckers. No, no, but what an NGO stands for what? The national charity. Non-governmental organization. Okay, okay. Fucking piece of shit.

Obviously, you know, there is, of course, on planet Earth, there are good people. And I'm sure there's a couple good people that have NGOs. but the problem is there's a huge amount of NGOs that are now are corrupt and they're part of whether it's fire aid or the homeless industrial complex it's the reason 24 billion dollars can disappear they can say their argument is it didn't disappear we audited here's the list go look at those see how much that 24 billion went to NGOs and then you go look at these NGOs These people get paid a million to a year salaries. On the lower end, it's $500,000, $600,000.

You're telling me, if you're getting a million dollars a year to stop homelessness, you want to stop homelessness. If you stop homelessness, you're not getting a million two a year anymore. So they have a financial incentive to not have solved these solutions. So back to the fire aid is they said several. that's their defense. But when you look at their list of what, they were like gift cards went to who they hand these gift cards out. I don't know one person that got a gift card. Again, I've been doing this for a year. Same with Sue Pascoe, who was one of the main journalists. She never had one person

reach out to her. Yeah, I mean, I've seen the people that were used in the videos that lost her homes in Altadena. I was there. I saw the family come out. Our aunt lost her home. Those people never received any money. What I just think is crazy is, yes. So the people that are in charge of fire aid, their hands are clean because they said, we gave it to these charitable organizations. It was their job to go find the victims and give it to them. And I'm like, it's not hard to find the victims.

You have addresses. It's not hard to have found them. But instead they went to all these different. I heard one was George Clooney's thing. Another one was like there were some in other countries. There was some with voting stuff. stuff. It's like... It's insane. And what's really insane is that all the people then that I assume perform, maybe they didn't perform for free, but they performed and they put their name on I'm at fire

eight. Why isn't there one performer that's like, what the fuck? Why? How did this happen? Like, why didn't some people all I just want to say, if it made $100 million, back during COVID times, right? They would go, okay everyone's getting a check for $1,400 because we can't work. And some people didn't need it and some people need it desperately, but everybody got it. Okay. And so I'm like, what they could have done right that is we made $100 million. There are 7,000 victims. Everybody, you know, that we know has their houses burned down. We have the others. Everyone gets this amount of dollars. If you don't want it or if you had great insurance, you want to give us, fine. But everybody gets it. That's what I thought it was going to be. That's what I thought it was going to be. So even if it was like $10,000 a person, still,

that's a drop of the bucket, but at least it would have been something, you know? At Medcan, we know that life's greatest moments are built on a foundation of good health, from the big milestones to the quiet winds. That's why our annual health assessment offers a physician-led, full-body checkup that provides a clear picture of your health today and may uncover early signs of conditions like heart disease and cancer. The healthier you, means more moments to cherish. Take control of your well-being and book an assessment today. Medcan, live well for life. Visit medcan.com slash moments to get started. They easily have that set up in the sense that FEMA was able to do that to verify if you were a victim, SBA with loans. So it's not,

oh, how could they could verify it. Right. I mean, it's addresses. And then the way you go to the next level with it is then you really, because you do it at the disaster. And, you know, just like with SBA, you submit your insurance, how much insurance. So say you had full insurance, which is very few people, you wouldn't have maybe got any of that firing money. So let's give it to the people that had no insurance, senior citizens, underinsured, and you could have a tier system. So actually, there could have been bigger checks for a senior citizen that, there's senior citizens that got dropped January 1st. They didn't get to re-up. So let's focus on, I know of 150 senior citizens that got dropped in January leading up to the fire that couldn't even re-up. So you start with them. So the idea that,

oh, the fire A, these smart people that defend it. I'm not going to name names. It's everyone knows, but I don't even want to give very rich, successful smart people should have known better, but they don't care because they're in with all these people. They're in bed. Yeah, they're all in bed. And they're all friends with that charity and they go to those functions. When it wasn't fire victims, it's this, because it's the same. They're all writing off taxes. And I think with the celebrities that were victims, too, why are they so silent? Here you're trying to do.

You're working 20 hours a day, writing and putting out these videos and seeing people to expose it. Where are your celebrity neighbors? And why aren't they pissed off? Because they are not allowed to be? Because they're so rich, it's better to stay silent. what is it if the political entities that were involved in the negligence that burned down were part of a different party i promise you they would all be very look at billy eilish she's the most outspoken person when it

comes to billionaires right now lady you were part of a concert that these same billionaires then took the fire victim money and put it back with other billionaires and you're not speaking up. So Heidi always tells me to just not go after these people to the point where I've messaged celebrities who had their house burned down and ask them, hey, could you come be a part of this? You don't have to say anything about Newsom or Karen Bass,

but just maybe talk about what it's, you that can be, just bring some more attention, no response left on red. So it comes down to in the last week, I lost a $75,000 TikTok campaign three posts that everything's been locked in. I had the products. I was ready.

And they came to my team and said, oh, we don't want to be evolved anything political. Like I'm out here doing anything but trying to get accountability, transparency. What I do, I don't even consider political, which so imagine what these other

actual millionaire celebrities, their teams tell them, No, you don't. So I see both sides. And again, Heidi always says, if you're an Aist, millionaire music, sorry, are you risking that? You know, and it becomes, you know, this thing that's like, there's people to fight with me because so many of these firefighters don't come forward and people will call them cowards. I'm like, yeah, also they have families. We saw that Karen Bass once the chief firefighter Lady Crowley started telling the truth, she was fired or demoted instantly. That's the chief. So what are they going to do to the lower end guys behind the hose? You know, so again,

Heidi keeps me in a box because I don't come for all these people that I would love to. I want to keep it real basic and then we're just getting it into some like fun or pop culture stuff. Why in the most basic terms is the is the people defending the fact that we didn't have water in a reservoir and when the fire started firemen went to the fire hydrant to get the water only to find out that there was no water is that all true it is true but the problem with the media and just lying entities like the ladwp and the mayor of l a they and newsome and his fake independent investigation they will truly look you right front at the davis davos red blue carpet and tell you all the water in the world wouldn't have made a difference. It was 100 mile per hour winds when the max wind speed in the

Palisades at the highest level, it was 37 miles per hour. If there were hurricane winds, they wouldn't have had the planes and the helicopters that were flying throughout the whole fire. Maybe they went down for an hour. So they want you to believe that the water and the Palisades in those two empty reservoirs were for drinking water, which nobody was drinking out of the San Eanes Reservoir. And if you research it, You could go look at the LA Times, I don't know if it was the 60s or 70, so long ago, 50s, a long time ago. The engineer that created the reservoir, the Sannez Reservoir in the Palisades, says it was built for wildfire protection to protect the community from wildfires.

They didn't build the 117 million gallon reservoir for drinking water in 2025. They're just lying on that because they don't want to have to pay. They don't want to be at fault. So the scariest part about all this is I live next door to a reservoir, six million gallons, the Palisades Reservoir, and I thought there was water in it to the point where I have a video on Snapchat where I'm Snapchating some guys next to it. I'm like, the water's all ready for the helicopters,

thinking they're going to come dip in this thing that I thought and drop right. I'm like, we are good, not knowing that Janice Quignona's, the CEO of LADOP, that makes $750,000 a year. she has $250,000 security budget, a driver drained both of them at the same time. We have emails that when they drain the San Diego and Eswin to repair a tear, they spent over a year negotiating trying to, you know, at the most, I think the tear would have cost a quarter million dollars or less. I think it was $150,000. So here the top executives at LADW, they all make over 500 grand. But now when it comes to fixing this tear of this.

stupid cover to make it called drinking water because I'm sure they get some state money or some environmental if they call that we put a cover on now it's back up drinking water then no one's drinking out of promise you um so they drain the reservoir in June of 2024 I should have paid attention and I found out why and because they were like oh we got to get it ready if we're draining that one then they decide oh we can't fix this one let's leave them both empty. So you have two reservoirs empty. And the argument will be all the water in the world couldn't have stopped this fire. The system was never designed. The reservoir, Heidi just did a podcast where she went in a helicopter and asked her to time how far to go from the Sandinaz Reservoir to the

Lockman site of the origin of the fire. She said it was 30 seconds. And that helicopter is not even as fast as the fire hawk, you know, $16 million helicopters that Cal Fire and L-AFD has. So, maybe it's 15 seconds. So in the first six hours of the Palisades fire on January 7, if there had been water in the San Denez Resvar, they would have gone dipped in in and they would have flown across the hill 15 seconds away, drop the water on it. Instead, no water in it.

They're flying to Encino and Pepperdine spending 66% of their time flying versus 66% of their time dropping the water. So the argument of that water wouldn't have helped the fire hydrants, what it would have for sure helped was those six crucial hours of the beginning of the fire where they would have just grabbed water dropped it, grab water dropped it, set it flying to all this way. But the real scariest part about the whole story of the Palisades fire is the fire did not start on January 7th like everyone talks about. This fire started on New Year's Eve and Newsom and everyone talk about this arsonist.

That case is falling apart because what they didn't talk about is they have 30, plus witness testimonies from New Year's Eve of fireworks going up to the Lockman site. So the idea of an arsonist starting the palace is fire, that's not even going to probably end up being true. And the guy that chat, GBT, whatever photo, that that was from like two years before and he searched climate change. And they can't even prove he was up there. So regardless of that, even if he was the arsonist, this alleged guy, that burned

eight acres. Well, here's where it gets crazy. the state parks have secret maps. It's a fact in there, and they have a manual. They talk about their secret maps that the community that's connected to the state parks is not aware of.

Where in the state parks manuals, it says if a fire starts in the park, in quotes, let it burn. They are so about plants and how the best for the plants is they actually have no problem with it burning

because of like regrowth. They, this milk vetch, the reason why there's no fire breaks anymore that they used to have around the Palisades, you know, 30 years ago or whatever, is because of a protected, I'll call it a weed. I'm not a biologist or whatever, so I don't know, but it looks like a damn weed to me. The best part about this, what happened to all the milk fetch after January 7th? It all burned. So they're protecting plants and not letting the fire department come in with heavy equipment

because of protected plants. They're not using dozers, which are bulldozers with these big things on the front of them to clear around where the fire was. So on New Year's Eve, the state parks people on the first, after the fire department put that out, they came in and asked the fire department to take dead brush

and cover up all with photos of it in their text messages. The fire breaks that the fire department made with their hands because they're not even allowed to bring the door, nosers, they put dead brush on top of it while still smoldering. I mean, the level of like lunacy, we have the state parks lady admits in her deposition two weeks ago that she totally saw the whole side of the hill smoldering, smoke coming, took a photo of it. And we asked her, the court lawyers said, well, what did you do? She goes, nothing. I'm not a fireman. Imagine going on a hike, seeing a whole side of a hill smoking, taking a photo, not even.

even texting it to your boss calling 911 and just doing nothing. So their job in their manual is to close the state park and tells it doesn't create a dangerous condition to the community around it. They didn't close the state park. Their job in their own manual is to say to monitor that area. They didn't monitor. And if they did, they took a photo and didn't tell anybody. So in all of this stuff that you've done, like I can't, I mean, I, I know. I, know that you're educated. I know you went to USC. I know you're a writer. But I am really blown away how you have educated yourself and shared it and articulated it so much in the past year. Like, I watched these videos and I'm like, I don't even think he's sleeping like four hours

a night. Like, I don't understand. Like, when you decided like, I'm just going to do this. I'm just I'm going to run for mayor because I need to get the word out. Like, where, how did you make that decision? Well, the more you deal with this, you realize these people, Mayor Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom, L.A.D. They get away with anything and everything. And I truly got to the place where the only way to stop these people is take their position where if I become mayor, I can make actual changes. Since the Palisades Fire, they have not done in any community around Mandeville Canyon, Brentwood, Hollywood Hills. They have not cleared any dead brush. They haven't made any fire breaks. They're actually cutting the fire department budget even more to the point where the fire

department right now has their own ballot measure where they're trying, they put up their union trying to get money from sales tax because the city takes money that's supposed to go to the fire department and they use it for other things. That's just so upsetting because when I was at my son's school for like, he goes to an all-boy, went to an all-boy Catholic high school and it was so I was the only girl being on career day. And so I was like, oh, I'll do whatever, I'll be the comedy. And there was a fireman and a police officer there. And I was like, oh, hi, you know.

and I go, how is the recruitment? Like, how does that, how is it working? Because it was always when I grew up, it's like, everybody wanted to be a fireman, you know, because it's just a, you know, it was a men wanted to do it. It was good women too, but like it was a good job. And he's, and now this is what he told me. This is a couple years ago. At that point, a couple years ago, there was like a,

kind of like a moratorium on not hiring, legacies. So it's like if your dad and your grandpa were a fireman, instead of it being a little nepoish, maybe, but still you'd have to pass everything and everything. They were like, no. And I just thought that was crazy. My grandfather on my dad's side was a fire chief. My, you know, my dad didn't choose to be a fireman. But what I always understood is it's such a weird and such a risky job. And And so being raised in that world of knowing you live at the firehouse, you have the and same with cops. Like that is something that you're, it's like bred in you too, just like actors oftentimes

know how to act. Just, you know, same thing. I don't know if that's true. I think that's crazy. I think we mean more fire people, men, women, whoever wants to do it. But we certainly shouldn't be discriminating against someone who is, comes from a family of firefighters. It's actually way worse than that.

I just had on our podcast the head of the firefighter union, Freddie Escobar, and I asked him if the DEI stuff is true. And he said, absolutely. When Chief Crowley, who Mayor Bass brought in, there was a real initiative to just hire anybody that hit these certain boxes, regardless if they had the qualifications to the point where there's a, you can go Google this yourself or search it. There's a video where somebody, like a fire department promo video,

and they say, well, what about if this person can't carry, you can't carry a man? They say, I can't carry a man. Well, you should be asking yourself, this is what they say, loosely quoting, you should be asking yourself how you got into that position where they need to be carrying you, like victim shaming. It's the craziest PR video, but that was where it was going. So he just a week ago told me 100%, and he's a Latino and he said, I would love, you know, white, black, Mexican, gay, whatever, if you're the best, you should not be hired to be in this

position just because you meet like an equity criteria. A job is such a physical thing. Clearly, I couldn't be a firefighter. And, you know, it's like I don't have that kind of strength. And there are women. That was his thing. And I couldn't be an astronaut. I'm not smart enough. Not everybody can be everything. Yeah, but he was saying there's enough qualified gay women, you know, whatever there are those qualified people. people. And it does a disservice to those people by lowering the standards just to like put the box in. Well, yeah, it's going to put those, the firemen at risk and all of that. Okay. So I love that you are still your funny self. And in all this Blake lively Taylor Swift stuff, you found an

element in the text messages, whatever to see how, explain what you found there. You know, again, I'm not sure if it's real, but there is a version of the Blake lively Taylor Swift court documents where Blake is discussing trying to get my book number one. And from my research, it looks pretty real because she also in the quotes knows Taylor as an avid audiobook listener. So she suggests maybe Taylor helps the audio book go to number one. And the more I looked into, I can't verify if it's true. Okay, but she does like audiobook.

That's for sure true. That is true. Whether or not in between the Baldoni situation, they were concerned about it going number one. I can't. Now, you were a huge Swifty, and you supported her for years, and where is your relationship with Taylor today?

Well, I feel like that post yesterday, I've risked it all. You know, I may not get any more merch, and I kind of accepted that I don't... All my other merch she sent burned down, So my collection is kind of, you know, so I- Because she was fond of you and she did send you stuff. Yeah, and I think, you know, when I did that post,

I thought, well, maybe they wouldn't like her team, me bringing light to this. But I prefaced it by saying, obviously I don't want her messages out there, but this is one positive at it. So in my mind, I've accepted, maybe I won't get a wedding invitation now based off that one video.

But then I also thought she is a billionaire and she should know I'm desperately trying to sell books. at all costs and I felt like it was okay. But the takeaway that I hope all A-list celebrities learn from this experience is they should do what Karen Bass, the mayor of LA does. She uses a specialized app for her messaging that automatically deletes them. And that's why we have none of her text messages from when she was in Africa, when she should have been in the Palisades or Los Angeles.

We don't know what she was saying or what her plans were because she has to be. has, which should be legal on her personal device, has some auto deleting app. So I think moving forward, as much fun I messages and all the gifts and emoji, if you are a major celebrity, do what Karen Bass does. I listen, I've learned years ago that I am a phone talker. I like to talk on the phone. And I definitely, not just because of like a lawsuit, but just because, when you do text stuff, you never know when that person might screen grab it, post it somewhere else, share it with someone else. But calling someone, you know, in the state of California, you can't record without their knowledge. So I always feel like if you do have something juicy to say,

and if it's about that you think Justin Beldonie is a dork, a dork and a dofuss and you hate working with him on the movie and you want to vent to your girlfriend, Taylor, yeah, you should have just called her. But those, both of them could have been on the East. Oh, she could have been in Rhode Island and she could have been in New York and the lost change. I'm saying, I'm old. So you can record in different states. There are people that have never used a phone where they didn't know texting, you know, like that there's, I'm old now. But yeah, we didn't have the texting.

When the texting first started, I was still like calling people and they were like, this is very aggressive for you to call me. I'm like, I would just like to talk to you than going back and forth. Now I realize in this world, it is very dangerous, whether you're accused of a cross. or you're in a lawsuit. It is very dangerous to write out everything. You never know. Forget even dangerous.

Texts, people can infer, like with my mom, she'll ask me a question, and I've learned not to text back. I'll just call her and I say, and I'll talk it through because it will come off in a different, she'll interpret it what I'm saying in a different way. So I always say, like, I'll call you about, like, this is, this is not a text. conversation because texting is this weird where people put a motion to something like, oh, they just said it like that. I absolutely love Warby Parker.

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I know at one point because your mom's a juicy scooper and we DM each other, at one point she was very scared about you being so vocal. She was very scared about your safety. Well, she's now fallen and broken her arm three times. So I think her own safety has become her priority. Oh, no. So, no, I think she is.

I think she gets matter every day that now she's like, go for it. I mean, I think a lot of people are turning because they're realizing it's now been a year. Yeah. And everything's actually getting worse. There's less signs of hope. So like the BS, we're going to waive the permits. That was all alive. Yeah, that all was.

They never waived any permits. They still are denying it. now the city's putting it on the state this week and like, oh, we can't wait at the permits. We've never got a dollar from the state and Newsom's always bragging. So slowly but surely, I hope they all start turning on each other as people start calling them out. But the one real problem that's just that I feel is we're in such a culture of gang gang politics where if people don't want to.

expose that this is who they voted for and this is why we're in this situation. And I always say, I don't care if Newsom was a Republican, Karen Bass was Republican, Janice Quinionis was a Republican, I would be doing the same thing. And we as American taxpaying citizens should always, when there's something so negligence, so much fraud, so much corruption, that's when you stop defending a political party and you, okay, then you should be fighting to replace those Democrats. I just thought to talk about this girl. She explained how she stood on everything. And then it was very interesting.

She goes, I feel this way. So therefore you're going to accuse me of being MAGA. But I feel this way. So now you're going to call me a libtard. I feel this way about this. So that's, you know, she went through everything that everyone talks about from, you know, LGBTQ to ICE to everything. And it was like the comments were like, yeah, this is how I feel, you know.

And then I guess people are calling it the purple party. Like the purple party, meaning if you did put red and blue together, I guess it comes out purple. But like, well, you're not really one thing anymore. And, you know, it's this corruption on all sides. And the same billionaires that backed the previous administration might be backing this one. It's like, it's, you know, and, you know, juicy scoop, I say I'm not, I don't talk politics. This is an exception because it's Spencer and it is my local place.

And I do think when it's local is when you really, you cannot put your head in the sand. So when it's where you live and you don't want to move. I don't want to move to Texas. I don't want to live in Austin. So one of the best, I spent like two weeks with the New York Times journalist trying to do like a take down hit piece on me. and it was an experience. And the one thing that I will take away from the horrible experience with him

was a quote where he says, everyone gets so caught up in celebrity politics, the big national stuff where everyone should be way more concerned about their local politics to the point with who's on their local park board, their schools. The list is so long.

And that is why where I am. So people try to put me in these boxes I'm like, again, I now am so aware of if you don't pay attention, you'll lose everything. So I have to do this. It's unfortunate it took this because people, you know, they'll be in the comment station, well, where were you for this? Or where were you for this? Like, I was feeding hummingbirds.

I had a really good life. It was perfect. And it took me losing everything and my parents losing everything where now I have plenty of time to examine all the things that are going wrong. and that is the problem when things are just, oh, it's okay, it's beautiful here. I'll pay the taxes. Oh, it's nice. It's slowly getting worse and worse. And I've been saying that for like, you know, 20 years where, oh, wow, Hollywood's really falling out. It's getting so bad that what is LA if we just let this keep going 10 more years of just going, ah, but it's so beautiful. The weather is so great.

We cannot just accept this. These people work for us, and that's what people forget. And we should switch them out. And again, if there's a better Democrat than Karen Bass, then push for that better. She is the worst possible person and she's running for re-election. And I'm running because they're not pushing a better Democrat than Karen Bass. So it's not a political thing. If some new Democrat that was calling her out for everything,

for everything, I'd be like, boom, I wouldn't even running. I was like, oh, this is a Democrat area. Everyone's voting for Democrats. They got this new. But no, everyone has just accepted. This is their candidate. And that's what we need to get away from. Even if you want to vote Democrat,

we got to find the Newsom is not your Democratic presidential candidate. He destroyed our whole state. So if you want a Democrat president, great. But it's not Newsome. I can tell you he's a demon, like for a fact. So that's my. thing. Like there's got to be better people. You got to have expectations just because they're yelling about the person you don't like. That doesn't give them the qualifications to fix anything.

So again, I've pushed back so hard. I'm not a political person. I've chosen like juicy scoop, you know, not to talk about politics for 20 years. You know, when I did my paparazzi shot with my Sarah Palin, John McCain, the following week I did the paparazzi shot with. my Obama Hope shirt. So my version of take a little bit of cloud off of each. So that's what they want to do by like, oh, he is this or he's that when really I just want the same expectations that anybody who's paying taxes, human decent. I don't want dogs tortured all over on the street and the Karen Bass just letting it happen on in downtown. These are simple, oh, that's a party thing. You don't want dogs mutilated and tortured and killed it record. I didn't know that was a political

thing. I don't want people smoking fentanyl at the parks next day at every park, whether it's MacArthur Park or Penmar in Venice. You can go anywhere and people are smoking fentanyl right next to you. In the Palisades before our house and this school burned down, there was a homeless lady cleaning her vagina every morning like clockworked in front of the school. We'd call the police. They'd come and go, oh, please don't clean your vagina right here in front of the kids. And then they should be like, okay, and then she'll just go poop in front of Joe's barbershop on the side of the street. So it's everywhere in L.A.

It's not to the point where, oh, you know, it's not, it's in the bad neighborhoods. It's everywhere. So again, that's going to be my fight because that's what the media and Karen Bass people, oh, he's just this or that. No, I'm not. I'm literally like, enough's enough. So I think, God willing, I can get past the control of the unions,

because that's what I've learned, is they lock in this union vote because Karen Bass promises these people favors that may actually not benefit the greater Los Angeles and all Angelenos, but that select group of voters that they lock in that vote. So once I get past that, you know, I truly believe there's a million regular, normal taxpay citizens where are just like, I'm voting for Spencer Pratt because he's done with this system. And then there's people that will tell me, like, I just got a big, not argument, debate yesterday with a lovely gentleman, the host of Entertainment Town.

He's like, well, what's your qualifications? My qualifications is I have the opposite of what the current status quo has, which is a huge benefit to taxpayers. I don't have deals. I don't have favors. I'm not in bed with all these people of 40 years. And again, I need to fire people. This is not like a hard thing.

Everyone that's been involved in the last 10 years, I'm cleaning house of all these people. It'll change things so fast by bringing in fresh new, a new way of doing things because the current way is obviously just increasing homelessness. And there's people that argue like murders are down. First off, that doesn't factor in the person they saved in the hospital with like eight stabbing or multiple gunshots. There's more crime than ever.

When I see those kind of headlines, I'm like, it's down two and a half percent of what they're also people don't even call 911 anymore when I called 911 and ask them to help save my dad on jr.7 they said oh we can't go there the idea that LA is doing anything but just failing the other thing is that you can't you know also this the high a list people that live there they can hire their own fire department they can have their own security so they don't need to call the police and now we're south africa now we're where the halves and the have nuts are like this and you have your and I'm like that's not right we shouldn't you know like I'm glad that you feel comfortable you know because you're you know in a big high on a hill with your own security

your own own thing but we can't let it go there either well I want to get to some fun stuff before you have to go no it's so good it's so good I just don't have anything fun okay I do I have some fun stuff here's some hot news from page six my son goes mom do you know who will you Shatner is. I go, I go, oh, did he die? No, but according to page six, he was boldly, boldly devours cereal while driving his SUV in Studio City. Well, is it a Tesla? Because you can probably, if it's a cyber truck, it's not that weird. People can sell, yeah, can do anything. I mean, very funny. Okay. How do you feel about this whole Victoria being a son? You have a mother. You know, your mom is the mother-in-law to a wife. And there's a big issue with Victoria

Beckham and her daughter-in-law, Nicola. And the latest article is Alana Hadid, which I guess is a sister to Anwar, who is Yolana and Mohammed's son, brother to Bella and Gigi. But I didn't know who Alana is. I don't know if she's like an older sister from another marriage. She's the main political activists of the family. Oh, she is? Okay. I'll say Alana said she shared her opinion on her brother on Wars ex, Nicola, and said that she was always, this girl doesn't want privacy. She's been trying to be famous for a decade. And, you know, this long letter that Brooklyn allegedly wrote. I read it. It looked like he wrote it. I was like, maybe use chat, bro. I don't know. I think, well, I think they're in it together. But how do you feel about the whole situation?

I just this morning spoke to a real insider. Yeah. And it was very, I can't even give too much, but you couldn't be closer to those two. To Nicola and Brooklyn? And Brooklyn is a very, I think, I'm trying to figure out a nice way to say. He's just like a whiny bitch. I think it was with a quote. Spoiled brat.

A little bit. A little bee. A little B. That's what the person said. Okay. I don't, okay. And that she is for sure just the run in the whole show. But my takeaway is so unfortunate when billionaires can't get along.

Like they could have bought a new soccer team together. Yeah. But her tattoo was so, I was like. Who's tattoo, Nicole? She got in Yiddish. Oh. Like right after like the letter, she like posted her bra shot under it and it says like only family or family first or family.

You know, I will say, though, after our house burned down, I can't say anything negative about them because they reached out offering me hot sauce. No, Nicole and Brooklyn, they reached out, asked if I wanted some of his hot sauce. Oh, he has his own hot sauce? He does. And then she sent me some screenshots of some screenshots of some Pradaddy crystals that she liked, thinking that I would send them to her. Really?

And I was thinking to myself, my house just burned down. You were an actual billionaire. And you're sending me screenshots like, here you go. Yeah. We'll send you some hot sauce. Send me some crystals. So again, I have no problem with them if they want to invite me on the megajot. Yeah.

I don't know if my source is true. Maybe he's not a mighty bitch and I could go validate off the megajot. But again, that's allegedly. I heard the dad is very litigious. Litigious her, you mean her billionaire dad? Yeah. I mean,

I think it's just really, I think it's really weird that it did become so public. It didn't have to be. You know what I mean? If he didn't spell out the fact that there was this weird inappropriate dance or whatever. People said that witnesses said that they had their dance first though and that's not

true. Right now that's coming out where it's like, no, there probably was a dance. It was after. and she in her, you know, in just talking about your mother, da-da-da-da, she minded her own brain now be like, and I didn't even have the wedding the way I wanted it. I mean, who knows what it was? But I just can't, I just have to say, as a boy mom, like your karma, if you have a son,

you better hope to God. This is because as I just really feel bad for Victoria. I feel so badly. This must be so hard. And really at this point, all they can do is just, just be like, step aside and hope that in a couple years, he comes around or it doesn't work out between the 10, or whatever, because what she can't convince, it appears, David and Victoria can't convince them that they love them and feel differently. So they have to just, I just feel like it's almost like he's in a cult or something. And you just have to say, we love you, send a card on a birthday, send a thing, text them every once in a while, even if, if it's unanswered and you just as a parent just have to, unfortunately as a parent,

you always have to be the bigger person. I saw a great TikTok. Someone who's like, this guy can't try to tell us. His parents don't care about us when his dad's got a tramp stamp of his name on his, on his back. Dave Beckham's got Brooklyn on his like lower butt. I know. So I was like, what's you going to do at Bridge?

Brooklyn Bridge. Like it's his son. It's his first born. It's sad. It's just sad. I will say the positive that having in-laws that aren't, that aren't billionaires is I never have to worry about Heidi's parents having any power over me. Because, I mean, I see how I could get bought off quick.

Like, sorry, mom. You know, I got no house of, you know, somebody's got to pay for my hot sauce. There's that saying, a daughter is your daughter for life. A son is your son until he meets his wife. Isn't that depressing? I also, because, or your daughter is your daughter, your daughter will be your best. friend for life. I don't know, some dad. No, it just means that, you know, that's where the Christmases and all that stuff will be. That wasn't our case. It was always very fair. But like, you know, you see this.

I know there's a lot of boy moms out there that are looking at their cute little three-year-old son. And you see this and you're like, oh my God, that would be just so awful if that happened to me. You know, if my son just got so pussy whipped by a billionaire that he doesn't want to dance with me anymore. my son doesn't want to dance with me anymore. What? Did you see their Christmas that they had? What? How like, I mean, the lifestyle he's living.

That's why. I mean, that's the other thing. It's like he doesn't need his dad or even though they have money. This is a whole not. They're like a percentage of what the wealth is of the girl. And yes, they're famous, but they still have to work at being famous. They still have to do the Netflix stocks. They still have to do the ads and the dresses.

And so that was a big thing I remember years ago. and I thought if that was true, I didn't like that. Obviously, I'd go off of tabloids, but years ago for the wedding that Victoria wanted Nicola to wear Victoria Beckham design. And I took, I was like, if I'm a billionaire heiress growing, I want the dopest $100,000 dress. I wouldn't want to wear my mother-law's design regardless if she has good designs or not. So if that was true, I could see off the jump where it started going sideways.

But it was a switch. It was the other. other thing in that long thing where he said he said I thought he said something like and you know and at the last minute you didn't do the dress for Nicola I thought that's what that thing said I mean I skimmed it it was so no that's what it was but so then it turned like oh you I didn't you didn't help me with the dress or whatever but you're right you're a billionaire you could add any dress and if you wanted to include your mother-in-law easy do the bridesmaids and I'll and I'll wear my own custom to couture or whatever or give her like

the materials. Hey, here you go. You can work off of these diamonds. It's always about the dresses. You know, that was the whole thing with the Megan Markle thing. I was just going to say the best double date right now would be Megan Markle. Oh, you already said? No, I said it on the last show. I said, Megan Markle needs to reach out to them because she's always looking for some billionaires to hang out. And they could all bitch about the horrible husband's parents. So I'm actually, the two of them could be like, oh, you think Victoria's a bitch, I had to deal with an actual fucking queen. A queen. So I can top you. And a king. You had a spice girl. I had a fucking queen to deal with. I'm actually in talks trying to get Megan Markles and Harry's old PR person. I don't have the budget yet, but

I like the ninth one they fired or something. This is like the main one. And so I'm like, if I, this is what I need to go up against Karen Bass. So I'm working on that. So wish me luck. Wow. Well, you know, imagine that announcement. Spencer Pratt takes on Harry and Megan's former press officer. Well, go for it. I know, I mean, it's in the works. I'm just trying to save up. On Summerhouse, I don't know if you're that familiar with the show.

Due to Kyle Cook and Amanda, they finally did file for divorce. They were along, their summer house is like, you know, like your original hills. They were the original couple. They were the Heidi and Spencer. He was kind of hated. Hannah Burtor hated him. He was, they had their issues in the, in the house. And, but then even though there were cheating and things where he was out and drunk,

she still married him. And they finally are getting divorced. And he became, he, you know, they didn't, they didn't last like you guys did. There's a lot of dating shows. They can hop on now. Yeah. There's a lot of opportunity. Why do you think people are so fascinated by the fact that you guys still are married?

just because it's Hollywood, it's reality TV. I wish more people were fascinated by it. You're not that fascinated. Now we've just accepted it. Yeah, I don't, I think now a lot of people realize how fake that show was and how much the media is fake. And so you start like, oh, so I think that helps. Yeah. I think the book, why I'm actually so excited about the book is you get to learn who Heidi really was.

Because Heidi, I always say Heidi was more of the player. they just made her look like a victim on the hills. But real Heidi was writing a book called How to Play the Player when I met her. So it was a very different Heidi that's portrayed on the hills. Okay, this I thought was interesting. So Palin Anderson went on, and you know her sons, went on Howard Stern. And she said, you know, she really misses Tommy that they can't be friends, that Dylan, their son is getting married

and, you know, she was hoping that they could be friends, but because he's married to Brittany Furlon, she's tried to be classified, but we really, we aren't as close as we should have been. And I kind of thought, I feel, I'd listen, Brittany Furlan has been through her stuff with Tommy in the last year, with this weird catfishing thing.

It's one of my favorite media things. It is the weirdest story ever. I did go that for too long because it was so entertaining. Yeah, it was. And now they're, I guess they're still trying to get restraining on each other because she's still saying that that guy made it all up. Yeah. And he's like, no, I wasn't going after you. And it's so bizarre. But they have been together a long time themselves, like more than 10 years. And, you know, when the, when the doc first came out and everyone was like, oh my God, Pamela and Tommy have to get back together. She's still in love with him. And I was like, he's married to somebody else. Like people. And even. though she has these kids, it's, they broke up when the kids were like two and four. So it's just interesting. I just feel like it was just kind of a, a weird situation where she's like, well,

you know, where people are like, oh, that's too bad. They're not, they're not raising kids together. Like, why would they hang out? And then she basically said, she thinks Tommy would like to hang out with her more, but he can't because of Brittany, Perlon. I mean, I don't, you're living with your second wife. I don't think she wants you having lunch with Pamela Anderson. Oh, 100% no. I mean, like, I don't think this is like breaking news. No, no. Howard's probably like, yeah, duh.

What do you think this? Okay, so Jaden Smith will and Jada's son, he is building a fashion brand and Vogue is featuring him. And like this is the backpack. It's like such weird shit. and what do you what do you think's up with the the smiths that is a perfect example of why i used to always not want to have kids because i was going to be ashamed of like my lack of achievement and now when i look at the most like i would have loved to have got to will smith famous how much more challenging it is to be like will smith jada pink like same with brooklyn beck these people that have these kids

it's actually better for my kids that I am technically a failure because they have way more opportunity to not end up with a three-piece backpack thing set up like that. So, you know, it's just, it's hard. I can't comprehend how hard. Nepo babies is not an easy thing. I agree. I agree because it's like, especially when you're at that huge level, because everyone is looking to say, oh, you just got this because you're an.

baby but people want the nepo baby because by having jaden versus joe schmo over here do the designs he's got the instagram they're going to sell the backpacks like you can't blame the machine like we all need it's like why the Kardashians started to get covers of magazines before because they could sell magazines no one wanted to buy so it's the same it's the same type of thing it is real it is hard and i remember like rickie jervais had a really funny joke of why he didn't have kids. He's like, I'm too successful. There's no fucking way. They would, they would, like, they're not going to go and try to be a doctor. And if they can't make it an entertainment, then they're going to be getting a heroin addict because it's like that part of what was the Nick

Reiner thing. He was very, you know, tried to get an acting and writing with his dad and was very resentful. And one of the things that stuck out to me is that he was a regular on his friend's podcast that was about addiction or whatever. And then, So he's feeling good. The guy's calling him every once in a while to come on, feeling like, and then sure enough, when can I get your dad on? And you watch that audio that's on like an episode? Oh, I didn't know that he said it on the air.

Oh, no, I didn't know where he was up. No, I read it that that then the guy himself said, I asked Nick, we were friends. After a while, I need the bump. I was listening to this boring podcast. Can I get, you know, a writer, director, Rob Reiner on? and Nick was so pissed and he never talked to that guy again. And it's like, yeah. So now you have this resentment because your dad is really successful and truly talented

and you're never going to get to that level instead, you know, or you feel that you never could. We had, I met him once on our podcast, Michael Jordan's son. Uh-huh. And I was just thinking, how hard is it to be you? You know, it sounds so cool. Wait, is Michael Jordan's son the one that dated Lurton? Yeah. Okay. You know, and it's exactly what a, my God, like no matter what, oh, it's just so. I purposely didn't want to like ever procreate with like a famous sports star because I was like, I know I have no

athletic genes in my body. And I and then that kid would be like barely making any team. You know, I think luckily I prayed so much when I was pregnant to have. smarter children than myself that God bless them with more brain cells than I was operating with ever. So clearly answer prayers because Gunner wants to be an engineer and hangs out in museums for fun and I'm like, it worked. This worked. So people are like, do you think your son who wanted to do reality? I'm like, no, he hangs out with this 3D printer, you know. He spends six hours watching his fighter jet get made that he designed. So no, I don't think that'll be an issue.

Yeah, that is, that's so cute. Do you know that Channing Tatum is doing a Magic Mike Live show in New York City? I do because I follow him on IG and I watched him talk to his, is this little mic thing? No, his headset. His wired headset. Okay. In first class, like low key, going on the tour. Yeah.

You know, good for him. What a legend. You know, if I had abs and could dance, I would love to go on live tours as an A-list movie star. I mean, listen, there is not a doubt that this will be sold out. This is girls trips. This is gay trips. This is fun. This is going to be a good-ass time.

So I guess they did like a, they're doing like a Broadway musical of the movie. That's what I assume. Yeah. He's clearly, I was most interested about his 26-year-old girlfriend. and that I found, you know. So wait, his other... Maybe she's older. I thought it's at 26.

So wait, who was he married to originally? Jenna Dewan. And they had a kid. Then he was with Lenny Kravitz's daughter. Zoe. Yes. And now he's with someone else. Yes.

I only know because I saw them. I met him in Costa Rica. I met him at a Halloween party. I have a photo with him. You better cut it into this edit. Boom. Yeah. I'll find it.

I'll find it. I'll find it. What do you think about Alex Earle post-crying late-night video after Braxton breakup? Most excited for her reality show. She has a new reality show? Yes. Oh, it was. Tell me. Netflix. She did a TikTok where she walks out of the Netflix building and she's on the phone with her dad. She's like, don't worry, Dad, it'll be fun. Oh, that's a, she's a she's great at the marketing. The show's going to be so good. Her stepmom is incredible entertainment. I've been reaching, I reached out to the stuff. stepmom though. I think a lot of people don't know how to check their TikTok DMs. But anyway,

I reached out to her because I'm like, I find her fun to watch. So it's all working out for them. Her and Heidi are going viral on TikTok because they were on the show in 2010 on VH1 called Famous Food. And they were like best friends on the show. Oh, really? And the clips are now going viral. Have they kept in touch it all? They have. Oh, good. And I mean, we always loved her and I love that she ended up the way she did. Yeah, and they've been married a while. Like she and the dad have been married a while, and I think they have like two little kids.

So that show is going to be so. And then Alex has a younger sister. Ashton. That's from the first mom, right? Correct. So that show will be so good. I love watching rich, famous people. What's the best thing that has happened since the fire

where like you're walking around and I assume people come up to you all the time and tell you positive things. So like what's the best thing that someone has told you? You know, it's really this like senior citizens that I'll see in the Palisades like yesterday's life's so funny.

This neighbor, I'm not sure she ever liked me. She definitely, I think I, she didn't like that we put up speed bumps because she drove so fast. Okay. So we kind of had like a thing, but I hadn't seen her since her house burned down

and she lived near right near us. And I'm walking down because I always go on a little hike to try to get extra mad, just get pumped up on rage. Okay. And as I'm walking down, she's like, Spencer, and this is always like, she's always so, I felt like did not like me. And I was like, oh my gosh, that the neighbor? And she like runs at me, like, hugs me and like doesn't let go.

And she's like, thank you for it. So the people that like know what's happened to us, that aren't in denial and don't go unprecedented, oh, it's people that know. And those older people that are my mom's age or even older, like just hold on to me so tight and, you know, most of them are always crying. That feels the, it's the horrible feeling, but it feels that at least, like Heidi thinks there's certain people that I keep alive with the hope of just exposure, like get these people. So that was what she was saying the other day.

She's like, I think there's people that truly just haven't died just because they're like Spencer is still fighting for what they feel so hard and they want to see that happen. So I think just that, you know, obviously now I drive all around California pretty much. I'm everywhere. And there's a unanimous like hope energy that people connect with me because they're like finally somebody saying everything we feel. feel. So that feels great, but, you know, when I say great, everything I live every day is just tragic. To stay locked in, I just focus on my kids' health. And that really has grounded me. And that's anything past that is just life. But as long as my kids are healthy, that's how I need to maintain my mental health. Because if you look at what has happened, it's, you know,

A lot of people have just died. Like, there's so many people that just die. I mean, you look great. I know you have a cold today, but you look great. And prior to the fires, you were just doing burrito videos. And after the fires. A little after a. Yeah, yeah.

Where are the burritos in your life now? Well, I have had a couple. I didn't post them because one of them I cut open and I was so ashamed. I used a fork and like ate out of it. It was embarrassing. But, you know, I've trying to now get in shape because what I deal with all day long is so tolling on just like cortisol levels and these spikes and trying to balance just managing that flight or fight energy that I stay in the fight so much that I need to.

So no more burritos. Also, TikTok, I don't know if you saw in my post yesterday. they just switched my account to a government organization. They consider me a politician now. So I no longer have access to Heidi's music or Enya. And Enya was my burrito song. So now it's done. You know, it's not even a possibility.

So, yeah, that's another great part about being a mayoral candidate. All of my accounts had to be demonetized. So not that you make so much money off. YouTube or TikTok or Instagram, but it was still money. Yeah. But so that's all gone. So that's awesome. And when you finally said, no, Heidi, I am going to run.

You might be First Lady of Los Angeles. Heidi Montag-Prat, was she like absolutely do you or was she, no, don't do it, please? Heidi's so on the God mode where she's like, if it's God's will, honey, like, good luck, you know. Clearly, that'll be, if you win, that's from God. So we'll figure it out there. So, you know, I'm not saying she's not being positive about it. Yeah, yeah. She's very like, whatever God's will is, honey.

Yeah. But yesterday, because she's dealing with our respectfully insane children that I think maybe she gives them too much red meat and they're on barbarian savage boat. Her favorite movie is for Christmases and we have those. two kids, like where they're punching and they're like, say my name, bitch. So, so yesterday, she texts me, hey, change of plans. I'm going to run for mayor and you're going to stay at home with the kids. So maybe there's going to be a swap for the next race. Maybe. But no, she's, she's all in it. And, yeah, it's my whole thing that I keep going back to, because out of such

tragedy you have to talk to God so much because there's nobody else you can talk to and you're like God what how'd you burn my parents house down or let this happen or like you know you really start questioning your faith and you and out of this I keep going back to well if God was going to let anyone's house burn down if he wanted some change and to save people's lives or make a difference you'd burn my house down and then you'd burn Janet Pratt's house down because I have to talk to my crying mom every day no matter what all day

so even if I think to be like this is a lot I'll check you with my mom who's hysterically crying or who's fallen for the third time so I've really gotten more connected with that purpose and I'm like oh you know this could be the path

and that helps me to make more sense of the tragedy. There could be a bigger picture out of it that has way more purpose. Yeah. And if I don't do that, it's just so dark. I think it's great what you're doing. And I don't think you'll regret any of it because the whole thing is, you know, when God does give you a talent and it's your voice and your ability to expose this,

if you don't use it, then that's the real sin. you know so the one thing that it's the how they fight me about how like what's your experience to do this i the funniest part is after you read my book i have 20 years of the the most elite training to deal with this new world i'm in where the people doing what they're doing are they're on page one of my book in the scheme of what i've already been against in because politics is media and and control of narratives. This is, I've been up against the system at a way more powerful level when it used to really be one controlled thing.

Now it's so fragmented, it's actually a lot easier. But coming back to the book, my training is all my failures in the game. So that's all my, good luck, guys. You're up against your worst nightmare. I love you, Spencer, and I'm so glad that we're friends, and then I'm so glad that I can call you at any time, and you'll answer to the phone. And this is the book. Yeah, don't text me like Blake and Taylor. I'm very excited to read it. Please order it right now or go to your bookstore or buy it for some friends. It's a juicy, you'll get a juicy-ass read about it.

Everything else. Tell everybody where they can go. It would be the ultimate troll because the New York Times tried to take me down so hard with their profile. To be able to become the New York Times number one best selling author would just be like just one of those. Also, I can't wait, God willing, you know, because now Newsom, when he calls me like a washed up, see this reality. So I could be like, oh, you forgot New York Times number one bestselling author. You know, so it will give me that, you know, when they try to take. down my credibility. So I do really care about, you know, I don't know financially when I learned

from music, how many books it'll take to rebuild the house. But for the, I'm very excited for the opportunity for clout that it could give. It's great. I'm so happy for you. So if you are rich, which a lot of juicy scoopers are, do the 10 book thing, please. Yes. And go around, give it to your neighbors, your friends, spread the word. And, you know, and it, you know, and it'll be a juicy fun read for you. Anyway, thank you so much, everybody. Love you. Bye.