Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Sydney Sweeney, Below Deck’s Drunk and Bravo Parasites with Farai Bennett

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

The hilarious Farai Bennett is here to share all his hot takes on pop culture with me! What other Real Housewives may or may not have parasites? Is Sydney Sweeney’s jeans ad the product of propaganda or just laziness? The Valley reunion was juicy and sad. Will Jax get spousal support from Brittany? Below Deck’s had its drunkest guest and Farai has scoop on it! On RHOM, was Julia just tired of Guerdy or just desperate for a storyline? RHOC is giving ChatGPT taglines and more. So funny! Enjoy! • Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to ⁠⁠https://zocdoc.com/juicy⁠⁠  to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today! • Right now, Boulevard is offering new customers 10% off your first year subscription when you go to  ⁠https://joinblvd.com/juicyscoop⁠ and book a demo.  • Click this link ⁠https://bit.ly/3HDwJKc⁠ to start your free trial with Wix  Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood Tales for real life, Mr. Segment, Serial Data. And Sarah. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. We are going to get into a very funny, juicy episode because I have a first-time guest who I adore, Fari Bennett.

He is a content creator. He is a good looking guy. So I say you come on over to the YouTube and check it out. He's showing some muscles. But he's really funny. That's really why I had him, not just because he's got good skin. How are you? I'm good.

How are you? Thank you for having me. I feel like we've been flirting with this idea for like a year. Yeah, you came across my like for you page or something on TikTok. I started to follow you. And I was like, I just love your funny takes and your enthusiasm on things. things and they're fresh takes. And so, and then you came to my party. Yes, so fun. It was really, really great. I'm glad that you're here. Speaking of a party, I'm just going to say it one more time,

you guys. My ticket sales are doing very, very well on November 14th. So I want you to get your tickets. It's Friday night, November 14th at the MGM Grand. And that is on BravoCon weekend. So this could be your fun Friday night thing. And it is going to be, I have a, I'm not getting paid by Bravo. I have no state. So I will be, it'll be a very funny, snarky, hilarious show that I'm so excited for you guys to see. And maybe you'll even be able to pop by. Yes, I would love it. And of course, Brande and Julie will be on stage with me. So now that's all at Heather MacDonald.com. All right, we're going to talk lots of housewives and pop culture. But there's the funny stories that just don't stop giving. Whether they're tragic, we still find the humor in them. And that is Brandy Glanvel and the infamous. the real housewives of ultimate girls' trip, Morocco that we will never see. Which is sad. We'll never see it, honestly. I just feel like they should upload it all at once, let the audience decide if it was nasty or not. To remind you guys, this is where Brandy Glanville allegedly fingered or fondled or whatever,

the very sexy grandmother Caroline Manzo, she said it was all in good fun, Brandy. Caroline Manzo said she felt very violated and lawsuits are still in the works. And Brandy was suing, but Brandy's attorneys have dropped her as a client. So she right now is not in an active suit. She's not being sued by Caroline. Caroline's only suing Bravo and production companies. But Brandy said that since she's been to Morocco, she now believes that her issues with her skin are because of a parasite. Okay.

A parasite has entered. her skin and Vicky is co-signing on it saying that she's talked to Brandy and that the parasite goes, you know, through her cheeks and into her mouth and that Vicky too believes that she contracted a parasite in Morocco because her flies all over the food and she hasn't been able to take any kind of shit. She has to take three colonics a week. If she does shit, it's what she describes as a pellet. Okay. And she believes she's got a parasite too from Morocco. So I feel like she's just spending a lot of time with Shannon.

There's like no way that you were just discovering that you have like this parasite. I feel like everyone just cries the parasite card and it's kind of like nasty a little bit. Like I went to Cabo. Like I went to Mexico like three times this year. And I've been saying I'm like, oh my God, I have a parasite. Like I just feel like my body's just not the same. And my friend and I are like, oh my God, we have parasites. And it's like we really don't.

We just eat like shit all the time. And I feel like that's what's happening. Like, Vicki, you don't have a parasite in your face. Brandy maybe. Well, she does. Terry DeBroo said, I'm going to help you. And then I don't know. I don't know what happened because I do think plastic surgery is a kind of thing. It's almost like a contractor. Like when you're redoing your kitchen and then your contractor disappears, it's like impossible to find another contractor to take it over because they're like, I don't know what this other person did.

I don't know if they did the plumbing right, whatever. So when you have a plastic surgery issue and it might be that with her, I don't know if he, abandoned her Terry Debrough because he was like I don't know what this is but I can't believe that with the PR and everything how she hasn't been able to figure out what this is. There's not one doctor out there that's like hey this is what's happening but

and I'm not accusing her I'm not Elisa Renek much house and by proxy I'm not doing that. No I think there's something wrong there is something wrong I don't think it's just filler gone bad but maybe Terry Debrough like sends her the bill and she's like never mind like it's maybe under the radar like I don't want to pay for that. I don't

know, but I'm just, I just really hope that Caroline Manzo now doesn't also say she has a parasite from when Brandy allegedly, like, fingered her and it came through her vagina. I don't know, I hope not. It could be Caroline Manzo's Etsy witch that did all of this. Like, I will say, like, that could be, have we

not looked into that at all? Like, that's a high probability. Caroline Manzo's always doing, like, backdoor shit between, like, the robbers breaking into Dina's home and then, like, shit like this. Wait, who is doing that? Who is doing that? I guess. Remember when Dina's house got broken into by her ex-husband.

Oh, Dina. Yeah, that whole thing. Then she wrote a letter. Well, no, that is why I think Caroline Manzo, they're the theory. I'm going to say these are all theories alleged conspirators. That some people believe that is why she brought out the lawsuit

is because she was maybe talking about the fact that her brother-in-law, who was married to Albies, that guy has already going to prison for orchestrating an attack on D.N. who was also married to him. So two brothers married two sisters.

It's always confusing when you say brother-in-law. And in that, they don't talk anymore, Dina and Caroline. Remember, they were very close, and it was lovely in the beginning of the Real House of Southern New Jersey. They don't talk. That's a big part of it.

So I wonder if she was buzzed and shared too much and doesn't want this to go away. But I would also, I've mentioned this a few times, want to start a... class action lawsuit for Bravo fans that have caught

the emotional distress of never watching the real housewives of Morocco. And I think we're entitled to it. And I'm looking for an attorney to take on the case and everyone will get between 17 and 18 cents. No, more than that. You think we will?

I don't know. These class action lawsuits don't always bring in so much. I just can't believe it's just floating out there in the ethosphere and like no one's just seen it. Like it's kind of, but someone will hack into that database one day and find it. I mean, I think with Caroline's lawsuit, eventually

if it gets to that place, I think she's hoping for a settlement, then you would subpoena all the tapes to see if there was something and then Do you think if Bravo is found not guilty then they would air it?

Yes. Yeah. That's what I think too. That's a good question. Okay, moving on, let's talk about this is a big thing that's going on. Sydney, Sweetie, the actress did an American Eagle commercial. And it was a weird commercial kind of. But, you know, it's trying to be provocative. It's very, you're too young to know this.

But Brooke Shields did a commercial. Okay, well, you've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. And she was young and she was like, nothing comes between me and my Calvin's. And everyone's like, oh my God, does that mean she doesn't wear underwear? It's kind of done like that.

Nothing is an original idea, okay? No. As my mother would say, everything comes back in style. That's why, if you've got a big enough closet, don't give away everything. because it will always come back in style. And so she's got the big jeans on, which to me I hate big jeans.

I like a baggy jeans. I like a baggy gene. I think you ought to have like a really good body to make a baggy gene work. But I understand. You can make it work you have like a long, you have long legs. You know, I've never even tried on a pair of them.

Maybe I'll try it. All right, I'll do it and I'll do a video. I see women who are like 5'4 doing it. You can 1,000% do it. I feel like you got to have a really snatched waist. You do have a snatched waist. Well, anyway, who cares? So she's doing it and she's like, you know, she's like, these are my jeans and jeans are passed down from generation to generation.

Sometimes it's a personality. Sometimes it's a trait like hair or eye color. My jeans are blue. So people interpreted that as Nazi propaganda and that American Eagle Company is putting out that blonde, blue-eyed girls or, or the whatever, anyone who's blonde, blue eye is superior to other people and therefore

there's people doing videos saying that not only should you never get American Eagle, but she should be canceled. She should never work again. This is, I think this is ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous. I mean, this is what I really think. This is what I really think. This is what I'm going to say and then I want to hear your opinion.

It's just, people don't realize that some people are just in their job and they come up with a idea and enough people around it don't think outside of their own personal box. That's what I think happened here. I think someone did the play on words, jeans and jeans. And I think it's the opposite. I think their intention was everybody's jeans are blue. Right. So blue jeans, are blue jeans. I mean, you can dye them black, but I'm saying like most people, genes are blue. So she's like, my jeans are blue, meaning I don't think it had anything to do with her eye color. I

I think that's really what they're trying to get to is just to play on words. And then once it starts to go viral and everything, now they're like, well, I don't think their intention was to rage bait. And I don't think they're, but now they're like, let's make the lemonade out of it. And now there are people that are like, now I really want to buy, you know, American Eagle, which is also weird too. What do you think? This is where DEI is important because, like, I feel like if someone was there, they would

have been like, this is not what we should do. But I also feel like, at the core of all of this, is desperation on both parts. Sidney Sweeney has never met a check that she did not want to cash. So I'm just like, okay, she clearly prioritizes visibility over anything, which is why I feel like she participated in this.

An American Eagle, at its core, just wants to be talked about. Right. So I do feel like it's rage baity. I feel like if Sidney Sweeney, like, left the jeans thing out of it and just said, I'm hot, I have big tits, and you should buy for me. It's all implied. I'm not saying you should buy them,

but they do make my ass look good. No, they don't, actually. They don't make your butt look really again. They're like too big. They're like too big. But I think, you know, I think this has happened a number of times when Kendall Jenner did the Pepsi commercial. She's having a great day. And gave the Pepsi to the guy, the cop for the riots.

Again, nobody was thinking it through. No one on her team thought it through. The biggest memory I remember it was when I got a call, like I remember where I was sitting, TMZ or something wanted my opinion on can you believe what's going on with Julian Arancic? I'm like, what's happening? And they said, oh, she made this joke about Zendaya's dreads.

Petulia oil. Petrilla. And at the time, honestly, I didn't know who she was. She was 18 and on a Disney show. And when they said, oh, she's this young girl on a Disney show, my first thought as someone that is white and doesn't smoke weed, I thought, is she a super Christian

who's like clean about drugs and she felt they were like had something to do with drugs. That's what I thought. It's like like, you know, like you know, like weed or the type of thing. No, no, no. It's because she is black.

And I was like, oh, okay. But I was also during that time, I was like, wait a minute. Someone wrote the joke for her. Someone approved the joke for her. Someone did the edit and approved it. Then someone saw the final edit and put it out there. And she took the fall.

essentially. Right. And then Kelly Osborne was like, I'm done, I can't be part of this. And she like, you know, so then Julianna's done. And then Kelly Osborne goes on the view and says, who's going to clean your toilets, darling Trump? In the sense, stop.

And it's like, in the sense of nothing. Yeah. So it's like even people, you know, people make, when you are living in a privilege bubble, which is Kelly Osborne to Sydney, Sweeney, to Kendall Jenner, and maybe the people that you hire R2,

nobody, people are not thinking, how could this be interpreted? I feel like, I feel bad for Sydney Sweeney in the grand scheme of things because it's like, at the end of the day, she just wanted to be a part of this ad and everyone's like,

well, why does she have to participate in American Eagle? Like, she's so big, like she could do Dior, she could do this. I'm like, guys, I feel like if she was getting offered that, she would be doing all of that.

And then on top of it, I feel bad because, like, I feel like American Eagle put Sidney like in harm's way of doing this campaign or any celebrity because I feel like if it wasn't Sydney Sweeney, say if it was Bella Hadid, they'd be like, oh my God, American Eagle hates the Jews or like, yeah, no matter what. If it was Kim K, it'd be like, oh my God, her jeans are fake. Like, why would they even put her like in this? Why are model and actresses put on a standard of like having to speak on something so like that,

no, it's a job. Like it's a job. She had a team that said it was a great deal. She had a lawyer who's too negotiated the money. She showed up at the thing. She did the voiceover. She didn't think of it as a negative thing either. But I also think, yeah, you know, if you're a content creator and you want to make a big deal out of this and see it as something that, you know, isn't right, then you have that. Then you have that right to do. But it's like, it just is a, you know, it's just a discussion, you know. Like I saw this one person stitch it and it was this woman was very angry about it. She was white.

And, you know, someone said someone's like, this is this woman's Instagram, you know. not doxing her. We didn't tell her where she lived. She had posted it herself. So no one did a mystery. But I did click on it just to see. Like, oh, I wonder what the, because the woman was very angry and she was like, this girl should never be hired again and just stuff like that. Anyway, I go to the Instagram and this woman is doing, pushing a product that is the at-home micromanetaling.

And is like showing her like angry red face and, you know, trying to like be an influence for herself. And she's a nurse by day but would rather be an influencer. And I'm like, just stop. Like, everybody's just too hypocritical and too critical. Like, we're all just trying to get by

and make a dollar and people make mistakes. Right. Cindy Sweeney's trying to eat too. Like, she did this because acting is not enough. Like, clearly, euphoria's on what? Pause or whatever. I guess it's back, but it's like, it was on pause for the longest time.

She's, like, looking at her calendar and being like, what am I going to do? Like, American Eagle? Sure. And also, like, she is sexy. She has real boobs. I'm like, I don't, if that's about the jeans. Also, she has a kind of an imperfect face.

So she's one of those kind of models from like yesterday where you weren't perfect. Like she's got like unique eyes. She has like an imperfect look, which is very attractive. But at the same time, I don't know. I just think that. She's also one of like the few Hollywood stars, young Hollywood stars that people care about outside of acting.

Like in this day and age of like streaming and everything where there's a million people being actors and having jobs. Like no one's really famous. I can admire the fact that Sidney Sweeney is like investing in her fame and like being out there. Whereas like I'm not saying that other people aren't doing that. But she's the one of the only few that's like young and like putting themselves out there in that way. Like she's leaning into like the mess, which I can like appreciate. I just think this in this particular case of anger, there aren't enough dots that connected.

Yeah. And there's enough to be explaining that like I mean, so what do we think about Belenciaga? Do we now think that that whole thing, which I could. cover to was on purpose, was that to get us talking, was that just one weird

person that put that paper in the photo shoot about pornography, child pornography, or was it, because now everybody's wearing the clothes

again, everyone's going to the fashion show. Do people talk about Balenciaga in the same way? I feel like before that everyone was like, Balenciaga, Balenciaga,

and now it's like, oh, Balenciaga. Like, I feel like, I don't know. But I also feel like Balenciaga was like an unattainable brand

in the first place, so easy for it to like Because it was so expensive you? Yeah. I mean, I never bought anything of it. And I just think now that we know, like, how much fake shit is made. That's true.

You can just go get it. 90% of what we see housewives wearing is, like, they got from, you know, the lady down the street that's funneling it through her garage. Like, so it's just kind of like, all of it is just not what it was. Like, now that we know it, it's like, there's no secret to it. There's no, like, ooh, you have Dior's sandals. We're like, who cares? Do you find it weird when there's, like, a Balenciaga store in the most random place ever? Like I'm from Scottsdale and me and my mom walked into the Valenciaga store like kind of right after the scandal.

And there's like some fake French guy working at the front. And he's like, and I was like, okay, this is Scottsdale, Arizona. There's no way that you were like here like pedaling us like in this mall. Like I was just like this is like there's something about it that's so performative. I'm like no. Every time I see a Valenciaga store, no one's in it. No one was there but us. And also there's like 12 items.

Yeah. And then it's like all ugly. Like there's like one purse on like. huge shelf. There's like the hangers are like feet apart from each other. So I'm like, is anybody really like shopping there like that? Like I don't know. But then I guess it's part of a bigger

conglomerant. So I don't know. Who cares? So there we go. Oh, this is which said jeans are passed down from parents to offspring. Often determining traits like hair color, personality, even eye color. My jeans are blue. Yeah.

Have you seen the TikToks of people like just saying random scenarios. Yes, but my favorite is, and I saw a couple of people do this, so I don't know who did it first, but I thought it was so cute. They just, they put jeans on their dog and they just show like the paws, the little dog paws, and then they scroll up and it's like, I don't know. That was the only one I thought was kind of funny.

Really quick on the below deck. Everyone's talking about this latest episode of below deck because there's this new captain, he's cute. Wait, can we talk about the old captain? I had no idea they like kicked him to the curb like that. What was his name again? I can't remember her name. I can't remember it.

Captain Kirk. Not Sandy. Sandy's the woman. This guy's Captain Kerry. He was Captain. First of all, I hadn't watched below deck in a while and someone's like, you've got to watch this really drunk guest on the show. I go to Peacock and there's three boxes of three different shows. One is the hot Australian. One is this new bald guy.

Yeah. The sailing captain has disappeared, the short sailing one, where they did, like, fancy sailing. I don't watch, like, below deck like this. It's too many things. It's become like... The hot one, the Australian one is Captain Jason, though, right? The one that everybody, like, is always, like, fucking at BravoCon or allegedly. Right.

Yeah. And then, like, it became, like, why I tapped out of 90-day fiancé. Like, there's too many things. Yeah, there's too many ways. And I'm just like, what is this? So this was... So I finally, I had to ask Chat, GPT, what season and episode is this really? really drunk girl on.

And then they're like, it's this one. So I go down to episode nine or 12 or whatever it is. And I'm skipping through all of the people fucking and kissing and there's a lesbian triangle and all this stuff getting to all the people working on the ship to the part where these people come, their return guests. And this is a friend of the primary. And she's so obnoxious and so drunk and literally insane that the captain is like, I'm calling the police to have you taken off.

And I'm just dying to know. Want to know what happened? Please tell me the scoop. You got inside scoop. Go. She did get kicked off. But the whole family stayed. She's the only one that, like, had to leave the charter.

How is she friends with these people? How did she get invited? So I don't really. So basically, so my friend Ari, her dad was dating that woman, the drunk woman. Yes. So she was like, so I was looking at her story the other day. day and she was taught and they were having this below deck party and I was like I remember her telling me this we were just in the Hamptons together and it was my like kind of first time really

hanging out with her um her boyfriend's one of my really good friends but I was seeing I remember her telling you this when we were drunk that her dad was going to be on below deck and I was like wait so what's the story and she goes oh yeah no my dad was dating that girl they weren't really together like any more by the time they went on the charter but I think they had planned it before or something but yeah she just got really drunk and it's like really funny because like they pan to my dad and they wonder what he's going to do and he's like I don't know that's not the shit I want to do, like, whatever. So, like, yeah, he just, and then they, but it was so funny because as uninvolved as he

was in, like, all of that, they have this huge party somewhere in Jersey and they're like, woo, below deck, like, let's watch. Like, I guess they're still friends and it's whatever, but yeah, that's the connection. Honestly, I hope that if she didn't, if that wasn't her rock bottom, maybe it will be, or that she can, like, laugh about it. Because what are you going to do now? Apparently, she, like, doesn't care. She's, like, laughing about it.

It's like not a big deal to her. You know how people from New Jersey are. Yeah. Like they're just like a, like the christening, it didn't shame anybody in the Jude Ice of the Gorga household. Like, why should it shame like these people? Yeah, you're right. You're right. So funny.

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This is what it is. There's these places now that in, I'm assuming, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana. that have the good tax breaks. Ah, yes. So very, very wealthy people go and live there, and you have to live there for six months. So in the last 10 years, there are cities that literally, like every house is $30 million.

Right. And because they, you know, and so it's on those states. So I believe that this is happening in this portion of Idaho. So then I found this other girl that said, who's like a podcaster, Idaho. I'm sorry that I'm not giving you credit. I'm just like trying to remember everything.

And she's like, I don't know. Do we want this? Do we want this show? These are the questions they're supposedly asking these people, which is like, are you swingers? Who's in financial distress? Who's a cheater? What divorce? Of course. All good questions to know in a small community. Right. And so of course it's not, you know, and then of course they're going to say, no, this is about Idaho entrepreneur females that are like starting their own Etsy shop it never is they'll tell you whatever it is

Manhattan moms was supposed to be about charity and it was Real Housewives of New York this is they get you on there and their goal is to make the show entertaining for us it is not to protect your family it is not to promote your charity it is not to make you look good

but you can benefit from it you can have fun and you can go to bravocon and feel like you're the Rolling Stones. So it's just whatever you want. Or on the cruises and be treated and sit next to Captain Kerry. You can show the world that your husband's an awful dick and divorce them and have a way to make money at the Mohican son with Teresa Judeyth. There is a pattern of life that you can take. But you should also know that if you're remotely happy with your husband and your life, you probably shouldn't go on this show.

Only if you are miserable and wanting to get out and that and I'd say go do it. But if you're rich and living in Idaho, no, you're not doing it. Don't do it. Especially if you love your life. Latest on Denise Richards is she's saying that he has stolen her laptop and her phone. And that has a lot of like intimate photos and stuff. And she's asking the judge that,

therefore because he took that, he broke the restraining order. And this is just getting really, really ugly. So it's like jail time. I mean, they're married. He's also white. They're still married. Aaron Pfeiffer's is not seeing in jail for any of this, by the way.

You know, just this is getting a real, going to be a real he said, she said, you know, horrible divorce. He's trying to save his reputation. Don't try. Has he denied the black guy? Oh, yeah. He said that she fell going up the steps. So she said the black, this is, okay, and I'm going to try to remember this.

best I can. Okay. She, what I understand is she said she went up to this, she went up to his building where he was still doing his weird practice and he was ever freak out moving these potted plants around thinking that there were bugs in them,

that people are listening to him in fault, which we saw him say to that type of stuff on the show, Real House is Beverly Hills. Because he's extremely famous. Right. So I do believe that, I believe her story, okay? I want to say I believe her story. Same. In that he, you know, a physical thing, they were yelling, whatever happened.

Somebody did call the cops. And the cops came and there was nothing. And then they left. And it was after that that then a physical thing happened causing the black guy. He's saying that she came drunk to his office and fell going up the steps, hit her eye, had the argument with him. there. And the other story is Jen Sean did it.

I was just going to say. I just thought of that. Oh God, Heather, you're so clever. I was literally thinking that entire scenario. No, there's nothing funny about this situation. But this is a comedy show, so relax.

But, I mean, the point is, we saw the video of him saying, I'm going to crush your hand. We saw him be weird. We know she has a horrible picker. We know that she makes the money And now he's asking you know for support He's trying to save his reputation

Because of course he doesn't want to be seen as a You know an abuser However dude Forget about your reputation End this Follow the rules Stop trying to make her look bad And hope that you can like settle

And get I mean he is entitled to something something. I mean, he is. They were married for six years and we saw him on the show. But if he made her move into the condos and like all that show. I mean, if we're going to be, if I'm going to be like an attorney for him and we take out abuse, I'd say he was on these shows. Yeah. He was the one that she said, produced her only fans. Her brand is about being a family with him. Yeah. I mean, you know, if it was the other way around, she would be entitled to. She's going to have to pay something. Right. But how much you think he should get?

Minus abuse. I mean, you know, it's all about getting, so they're married six years. He has to get, he's entitled to three years of spousal support. And, but, you know, now it's getting so nasty. He's accusing her of not being good to the daughter. She's accusing him not being good at her. What's her net worth, by the way? I think about this a lot.

Like, just the way she spends and the way their lives are. the condos and then the house in Malibu. Like, is she like a multimillionaire? I mean, I don't know because in the beginning of the OnlyFans, there was reports that she was making $2 million a month. I think maybe the first month, maybe she did. All those people signed up. I think the guys that signed up for,

for OnlyFans talent. Hell of Geezers who like have always loved Denise Richards. Right, but I also don't think they're monogamous to their OnlyFans person. So I think after a couple months, whatever, they move on to somebody else. else. That's so true. They're like, have you seen Bonnie Blue's new billboard?

I'm going to check her out. Okay, someone wrote to me, I don't know if this is true, said about the Bonnie Blue, which is, and the other girl that, you know, goes to 2,000 guys in a day and another one does 500 in a day,

and we're like, why is us weekly picking up these stories? Every comment under those stories are like, please stop, I throw up, I don't want to think about this. Is this real, whatever? According to this person who wrote me, they know the publicist and it isn't true. No way. So they're lying about like all the guys are fucking,

I always think about that. I'm like, there's no way someone would choose to be that ran through. It has to be like too much. I thought, I've been saying it too. I said it early on. I'm like,

I'd be exhausted and disgusted. And where are there videos of use? Like, can you pay for the videos of seeing it? Or is she just making so much off of the, um, her only fans because people think I'm watching the girl that does 10, does a thousand,

guys a day? I need someone to really tell me. Is there actual video of her doing this stuff? Is this all a PR thing? And Us Weekly just has a slow day and knows that it gets clicks. Because her excuse can't be like, well, they just didn't make the cut. Like they didn't make me come, so they didn't make the cut. I mean, like, what?

And then how much time do you have and then doing the math of it and how do you find the people? It has to be like a doctor's office. It's out of practice. Like as an Uber. They all get their parking validated. Can you imagine? I mean, if 563 people are coming to a location, where are they parking? If it's not a theater, it's got to be like a small studio.

And it's definitely a small studio that is in a plaza. By the way, did you see that? Bicycles? E-bikes. Yeah, e-bikes. Have you seen that interview? Our scooters gone forever. I think they are because everyone was getting, like, hit by a car.

I just saw someone else. I don't line anymore. Yeah, I don't see scooters anyway. Well, I think the line visit then got into the electric bikes. With that, I'm four. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah, no, you're right.

The bike thing is definitely happening because no one's scootering anymore. Remember the hoverboards? Oh my God, yes. And I was always scared to do it, but it looked so fun. It was kind of a luxury to have one. I brought both my boys, those. How was that in your household? I mean, you know, like anything.

It was fun for like, you know, a month or two. Did you ride on it? No, I never got on it. Because the balance, I feel is like where it's off. No. I feel like if you're five years old, you're so good with the hoverboard. All those type. Yeah, it was like fun for Christmas and then that was it.

Yeah. Okay, we really got off this. Anyway, I wish her well. I mean, obviously, he's never going to get his reputation back. That's what he's trying to do with sharing this stuff. He's trying to prove that she cheated on him. We don't care if she cheated on you. We don't like you.

Forget it. It's a given. You're never going to win the Housewives audience. We are going to be team Denise. Did Michaelette Sheridan cheat on him too? The story is he was with this girl, Tracy Bregman, I believe, who was on, Young and Russ is very pretty. Also in Malibu.

Then he got with Nicole Sheridan. Nicolette Sheridan. Then he was with Nicolette Sheridan. There might have been a crossover when he got with Denise. Got it. They all live in Malibu. He just went from house to house to house to house. And now he'll find somebody else.

Spousal support to spousal support to spouse support. He'll get a girlfriend too, just like Jacks Taylor. They will find a girlfriend. What do you think he'll date next? It's obviously going to be a celebrity. I don't think it will be. You don't? No, this is...

Oh, well, not with this abuse. I'm going to tell you who it's going to be. Who? It's going to be an older, rich woman. Not that much older. He's probably like barely 50. So she'll be like 61. And she will have money.

And she will just... And he's going to grift into that. And she won't care because she will love just having a man. And she's not going to give him... She's not going to marry him. And she's not going to will him anything. But he can, you know, stock the fridge with lacro. and fuck her and she'll be happy to take him to Nobu.

That's what's going to happen. I was thinking like Susan Lucci, but that's a better idea. No, Susan Lucci had been married her husband forever. Oh, she has been. Okay. Let's talk about the Valley. Did you watch it last night? Of course.

So there was a first, it was a reunion. It was basically all Jacks and Brittany. And I want to just get your thoughts on how did you feel watching it? I mean, I was riveted. I know this is dark stuff, but it is so real. And the fact that Brittany said he is waiting to file because he's afraid he's going to get kicked off the show. And he wants to make sure he can get child support for me. Kind of a nasty move that she said that.

I can't believe they kept that in there, by the way. I loved that they kept it in there. I was like, ooh, that's that. She just saw the writing on the wall, which is crazy. What did she say? She came in like, the voice chest degraded me. It's so degrading that voice. I heard voice.

Oh, my God. You know what people have also noticed? And I'm a Britney fan, is that she didn't sound like that in previous episode. No, she didn't. And Zach is from where she's from and he has like a gay accent. But sometimes the gay accent is overpowering. So I'm not going to like knock him for that. But it's like, why doesn't he have like a little bit of that?

I don't know. I didn't, I, I, tell me what you think. Or someone's show videos. Was she or was she suppressing her accent when she was first here? Because she was a little self-conscious of it. Maybe. And now it's just like she's just very comfortable. That's what I think.

I think she's comfortable. I think she strikes me as someone who talks to her mom on the phone every day. Right. Yes. And that then comes back. But when she goes, she goes, this man calls me to lose my sparkle. And he's like, oh, sparkle. She goes, you literally made me lose my sparkle.

I'm like, this sparkle that she's always talking about. I loved it, though, because I know what she was saying, you know. And I also thought it was very juicy that he goes, when I got kicked off the show, and it was during COVID and she was making the money and instead of being grateful I became a dick about it I think that is so

honest. It was real which I liked. And there's so many women that can attest to that that happens to them and you think that like why aren't you happy you know and it's and they don't even know I don't even think he knew at the time that he was consciously cutting her down

which is why I thought I actually thought he came off well, you know, in the reunion. I really did because I'm like, he is trying to say like, you know, and I think going. In hindsight. Yeah, I think going along with going off the show, now he's no longer part of Jacks. The way I understand that restaurant to be, because when he came on my show, he said it, they, these, these restaurateurs came to him. He did not have to put any money up. But in doing that, I don't know how much steak, I think probably the contract says, long as your name is on it, we'll give you this portion of this amount a month or whatever it is.

So the contract probably came and they're like, you know, you're not popular anymore. Just like what happened with Tom Schwartz. And we're going to go in a different direction. And from what I heard, the place wasn't popping. Yeah. Unless there was a night of like a watch party or something. Like people weren't just going there on a Tuesday to like have chicken wings and watch a game. I went there on, this was when women's college basketball was like,

like really, really good. Like, when everyone was paying attention, like, Offset was going to the games. Like, it was, like, a thing. Like, people were going. Celebrities cared. So, like, this was on the night that I think it was Caitlin Clark

versus Angel Reese. And I was, I just went there by happenstance. My friend was like, let's go to Jackson. We just want to check it out. And I was like, I'm a little hungry, I guess. First of all, that was, like, the dirtiest place I'd ever been to. My cups were dirty.

It just, like, felt, like, weird. I was just, the Beverly Hills Hotel, like, knock off wallpaper was just, like, not sitting right with me. Nothing in my spirit was right when I walked in. I was like, this isn't working for, I'm very particular about, like, where I eat. Here's the thing. In L.A., every restaurant is about ambiance, right?

It's not really about the food, but if I'm in a good ambiance, like, of course, like, I'm going to enjoy myself. They couldn't even serve me ambiance. Like, okay, fine. And then, like, also, it's empty as hell. And this is, and it's a sports bar. And this is the biggest night in, like, sports right now that everybody is talking about. And no one is there. Like, yeah, we're in Studio City, but, like, there's other, like, Rocco's was, like, packed.

But no one was in Jackson's. Like, there's no overflow. I don't know. It just wasn't meant to be. I think when it opened, you know, like they were together and I was like rooting for them as a couple. Were you? Yeah, because they had a child and I'm just like. Oh, like after that.

I'd never root a really. Before we heard that, you know, they're kinding for divorce. Like then the show, when the restaurant opened, you know, they had the fun sayings and the photo and everything like that. And I was saying years ago, like, you know, know, while back, I think I said, if Jack's and, when he was no longer on the show, I'm like,

if they moved to, like, Florida or somebody, someplace. They'd be fine. And they opened a restaurant, and they made it like Planet Hollywood, where they made it, like, all this, like, a reality. Like, if they made it, like, all reality, not just not Vanderpump,

but, like, reality moments. And, like, maybe you would show the hottest reality show there every night. And it's one of those things that you go and you see the people and like people that fans of reality shows will go there and take a photo and you make it good food and it's like a planet Hollywood but for reality stars I always thought like that could be good so then when this happened I was like okay this is good you're laying into the vanterpum thing and I remember he said we're going to do live podcasts here we're going to have all these events and I think then you know with everything that was going on with him I think it lost that momentum I think that when the scannibal thing died down and now all those people aren't on banner pump anymore. It just looked like, it was just kind of a weird thing. And in LA, everyone's a little bit too cool for school in that sense. Like, once it's not happening, you're not going to go. Whereas like, people in Florida don't really, they don't give a fuck. Like, there's just too much. Yeah. They don't have the same access. So it's like, yeah. So I felt for them, I felt like there is

still like a love and attachment. I mean, I think there's like a love and hate there on both parts. Like, and it is, it is hard to see. And, um, but yeah, I mean, just, I mean, God, we'll see what happens with Jacks. I do feel bad that she kind of has to spend the rest of her life with him like I think about. Because here's the thing, he did come off well in the reunion. I agree. But the thing with him is like, I just, she has two more parts though, so we'll see. Oh, yeah, that's true.

But he's just like such a narcissist that it's like, is anything you say really genuine? Do you really mean it? Like, it's like, yeah, like, maybe some of that's real, but, like, I can't believe him. I can't, like, I don't trust him. I don't trust what he's saying is real. Brittany is right in the sense of, like, he gets nasty really easily. And then he's like, oh, yeah, sorry, take it back. Like, I shouldn't have.

Like, I shouldn't have. And it's like, but you did. And that's why, like, I get mad when people compare Jesse and Jacks. Because I feel like Jesse's not, in my eyes, Jesse's not really a narcissist. I think Jesse is just a douchebag. And, like, he owns that. And he says, like, yeah, I was nasty about that.

Like, and I meant it. Like, and I kind of like appreciate that versus like the faking of like, oh, yeah, I shouldn't. Like, he doesn't care if he comes. Like, Jesse doesn't care if he comes off great or not where Jacks is like, he's so concerned even though it's so obvious that you're, at this point, it's obvious that you're not that's so great. So it's like, how can I believe all this?

Now he doesn't have an income from the restaurant. He doesn't have an income from the show. He's not going to be getting, you know, great brand deals right now. They might come if he truly walks the walk of like being a social. sober guy. There might be some good things that come his way. He's going to, he is going to, she is going to have to pay. Yeah, I know. And he's not paying his bills. She just did a great, a huge commercial that I saw for Tom's gummies. Which is fabulous. And it was great commercial. She's like, my stomach's upset. It was perfect. It was a perfect match for her. So it's like,

unfortunately, she and Denise are going to have to pay these guys. Maybe they'll get a reality show together. Doches on the Ben. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But, like, they're unfortunately, so we'll hopefully, I think there, it will be a pause. I do think he'll come back and make appearances and get a day rate, like when it's a birthday party, when it's something that it's like, okay, come along or he has been helpful. I mean, she does, she is going to want him to show up. She is going to want him to show up and be with Cruz. I feel like. Everyone wants their child to have a dad, you know?

Yeah. Like the final straw with her, and I feel like with Bravo is obviously like the abuse, like the moment he threw the table is kind of game. over. Yeah. That is like, because I feel like he could do anything else wrong. Like attitude is whatever on Bravo, but like that is like where things get sticky. And you know what it also is? Janet told me this.

She goes, you'll understand why he's no longer on the show. And I'm just remembering it that there is a, there is ring camera footage of him pushing her into the rose bushes. And she showed it to the other cast members. So that is what the producer saw. I think that is why he's not on the show. Yeah. Because I think there's footage of him being somewhat physical.

And she could leak it at any time if he just pisses her off on camera. But I doubt she'll do that now. And then also we had, so supposedly Michelle has stopped following honey eyes. Yeah, I know. It's so funny that she's like, oh my God, I love Aaron at this reunion. She's like, I love him. And we're like going this direction. And I'm like, oh, okay.

I don't fuck with her. I just think she's like. You're a disaster. I hate her. There's something about her. Like, that's, I, I hate that I, I hate like that I'm, I don't want to say I'm team, Jesse, but I hate that I lean towards him because like, she tries to make him seem like he's so bad and he is that bad, but she's just as bad. I disagree. I loved what she said when she's like, I woke up one day. Oh yeah, I did love that. And I was like, am I just going to feed this for the, I honestly thought that was a great moment for men and women to both see, whatever relationship you're in. to just be like, are there more bad days than good? Like, really ask yourself, especially when you're that young.

And, you know, you can get out and you can make your own life. And the whole thing with his mom and her mom. And, like, I thought she... I did like that. I like that she was honest about that. I think just kind of where she lost the game is that she tries to, like, put all this, like, bullshit on him about, like, who she introduces him to and, like, all this stuff. But, like, really, like, I do think she cheated. And like I just feel like she gives him this bad guy card,

but I feel like she does it because I don't think she feels guilty, but she knows that he will always hold that over her head. And like it's almost, it almost sucks that she was the one to cheat first. And like, here's the thing. The audience, I think, is mostly women. Yeah.

And when we see someone be awful to you, we're like, so what? Yeah, that's true. Like, we don't care that Brittany got with the guy. No, I don't care about that because. And we don't care that Michelle was talking to this other person. maybe before. And we don't care if Denise was talking to somebody because you're all, we're awful.

Yes. And we have proof. We've seen it. We've seen the way you've talked and spoke. And so, like, we don't care. Like, so if you're trying to win the public opinion, you're not going to win it. That's why I get really mad at Jacks also, because I feel like whatever Brittany did, that was his opportunity to really let it slide,

like, after everything she's been through. Like, you couldn't let this one thing go. Like, because I feel like if he let us, go. I honestly think if he never gave her grief about Julian, they would still be together. I really do think that. Also, like, he didn't want to be with her. She said they had, like, sex like twice in three years.

So it's like, yeah, you're right. Like, it did push you away. And he was probably, you know. Seven or eight on her good, on a good time. No stamina. No nothing. Yeah. And then he's like, yeah, well, when you're in a toxic relationship, you don't have a heart on for your wife, basically what are you saying? So, like,

yeah, when you're in. I kind of disagree. I feel like that in most relationships, That's what keeps you there, but he's not attracted to her. There's both. There's the people that you're like, I can't believe that you were still sharing about with your husband up until the day that you filed to people that, like, have makeup sex when they, like, hate each other and it's like an exchange. There's some people that just sex is a bigger part of their thing. It still means they might hate each other. They have like the hate sex.

And then there's people that really can, if they're not in a good emotional place, just can, it's like the last thing they want to do is go through the motions of sex. Yeah. Even if they're like courting And I think that's what they were Yeah What do you think of Is Jasmine gonna stay on the show? I don't care

She doesn't do it for me You know she was a reality show queen She was on What else was she on? She was on Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders Oh she was on there Then she was also on Bachelor with Nick Val Yes I did know that

And then yeah So I mean I think she does well Has she done his podcast That would be interesting I think he had like a beef with her I'm not sure. But, you know, I think she's pretty. It could be interesting.

Again, if she doesn't really have anything, it's not her fault that, like, she's kind of, I don't know. I saw her at Coachella. She didn't see me. I saw her. I feel bad because she's been in my comments. She's super nice. But I saw her Coachella and she was like in the artist section.

And I could tell she was just like dying to be seen. I'm like, yeah. I don't know. I just don't see it for her, I guess. I also want to say, I've had someone write that about me. That's fair. I saw Heather at a Sephora. Heather Debrough?

No, me. Oh, oh. Like they said, I saw Heather McDonnell at a Sephora, and she was just dying for someone to notice her. Well, first of all, the Sephora employees are always hiding. You have to be seen. How am I going to get my right shade? So that's just nasty.

But also, I'm like, I'm just saying, like, you could think that, but I'm also like, you're there. You're right. Can we not, like, can she not have a good time at a concert? Can I not shop at Sephora? That's true. And I would look for the same. So say you're sorry to Jasmine.

Just kidding. Jasmine, I'm sorry that you wanted to be seen. She said the artist. She could be seen. But I wanted to be seen too. But also like, or do I, who am I going to know in here? I might know some people from stuff. Yeah, that's true.

I know. And maybe she's like, there's no service. Maybe she's looking for her friend. But it was just the way I could tell because I've done this before. I guess I'm not knocking you, Jasmine. I've done this. I'm like, who knows me here? Yeah.

Like, so I could just tell. Do you like Zach? I love him. And I know him. knew him before the show. I think what Bravo has needed for years is a bitchy gay, a bitchy fun gay who does not give a fuck about the straight men

that he's around and I love everything about him. I think he's fun. I think he's a fun he leans into the gag. He's scary. He reminds me of like an ex-gay friend I was friends with in that once they turn on you, they turn on you. Yeah. And there's

no coming back and like so but I think it's fun to watch. But I feel like Jayda played him. Yes. Okay, so wait. But then this is from Bravo Investigator. This was so weird. So I'm reading this.

I'm like, what is this? And so he has some merch that has a crocodile, a shit emoji, and a boot. And then this person wrote, spent 10 years parasiting off your best friend to get on TV. Someone's talking about Zach. And somehow, after two seasons,

all you have to show for it is some merch about me. Pathetic. I'll tag you, Zach. if you didn't have me blocked on everything, L.O.L. But launching and promoting your merch store with a reference to me after all this time is such weirdo behavior. So anyway, I'm like, I thought, okay, because it's crocodile shit boots, okay, is what the three emojis would say.

I thought this was Brock, Sheena's husband, because he wore those crocodile boots that people have highlighted. They were like high-heeled crocodile boots like on a reunion. Yeah. And I was like, what? No, it's some other. guy. It's just this other guy. Some other, like, gay he wants to be in the mix. Who I guess was wearing, yeah, who's just like. Who is this guy? I don't know.

Why did he make this? But I'm like, who's going to buy this shirt? If it's really about some other gay guy, we don't know. I don't know. It's just so weird. I can't with the gay cloud chasers on Bravo. Oh, the Peter thing. Peter from Vanderpump. You know what? Sheena kind of ate down when she responded being like,

that's weird. You asked me to be on your podcast forever ago, but now it's like, fuck me. Because I talked about LVP. But I do have to say, I do kind of hate that Sheena is like talking shit about Lisa Vanterpump like that because I just feel like, okay, you knew she was using you. Like, of course she used you for her show, but you didn't care because you were benefiting off of it. But now, like, you need something put in your book. I get it. And maybe you do look back with everything in hindsight. But here's the thing. Her book is a memoir. Right. And if you're really going to write about your life, she really did. And she's sharing.

like what she thought, what happened, and now in hindsight what she thinks was was really going on. And you as a reader then can read that part and you can either think, well, Lisa Vanterpump didn't think that she was, didn't think just the same way

that like Bravo will say, you know, who's the next couple you think are going to get divorced on your cast? And then someone says it. And no one's thinking, wow, like this couple, going to be struggling. They have children together. This is who they, they stood in front of a church and said they're going to be, and now people are just

like, ha ha ha, ha, you're going to get divorce soon. So it's the same kind of thing. Like, I think that with Lisa Vetterpump, in asking and doing things throughout the way, we all watched it and she all thought it and she thought you know, Sheena being happy and

participating and having this wonderful life by being on the shows. I don't think Lisa was like trying to do anything. This whole plot and plan. But also, we want Sheena to be honest. So in the book, she says, now I see kind of like what other, whether Brandy Glanveller and other people would say. Or even Lisa.

Like she used me. Even I believe Lisa Renna kind of hinted that it was Lisa Vader-Pump that was like, bring up the Munchausen thing with Yolanda. Everybody knows she did that. So it's like she kind of would do those things, drop those crumbs and see who picked them up. And then some of them were a little more direct. in that she just was like, I don't want to fire James, so I need you to take James side

about this thing where he, like, fat-shamed Katie and she felt she had to do that with then put her at odds with Katie, which is why. But they are doing a job, and there's some housewives, like a Tamara or like, like Sheena, that I know are just their personalities

are more like, I'm going to be the star pupil. I'm going to do what I'm told. I'm going to bring the good TV. I like when the producers, like, pat me on the head. but then they have to watch these fights back six months later and then they have to hear from the audience that they were a piece of shit and a bad friend and they're like, I would never have done this

if I didn't have a camera in my face. Yeah, that's also true. So that's it. But, you know, of course he... But like, let's say Lisa, out of the kindness of her heart didn't expose her, like, you have this amazing life. Like, because of this, you have a book. Like, I don't know.

I just feel like it was like a little bit, like, I feel bad about the Lisa Vanderpump shaming from the Vanderpump, people because like, like, when it comes from Lisa Rina and like all those people, it's like, okay, fine, whatever. We'll put like, yeah, that's Lisa Vanderpump's fault. Like, she was being nasty, especially the Munchausen thing. Like, that was nasty.

To me, that was direct because she didn't like Yolanda. But when it comes to the Vanderpump people, like, what would you have had if Lisa Vanderpump didn't intervene? Right. But at the same time, it, you, it's reality stars and Bravo will, are so disposable. Yeah. And then they feel so disposable. And imagine you're just like, you're fine.

You're not on Banderpump. You're doing your own thing. You're trying to get somebody. You're studying for a real estate license. Whatever the next step is. Keller Williams. And you're watching, you know, and all of a sudden it's, oh, there's a new shift in town.

And the old out with the old and in with the new. And it's like. The help wanted sign. And I'm like, am I old? Like, I'm 40. Like, am I really just done? Like, is this it? And it is really like hard to think about that.

And it's like a different. version of Hollywood. It's been happening. It's like, Reese Witherspoon even talked about, I can't get movies anymore, so I have to, you know, start a production company, and of course she's killing it. But there not a lot of reality stars can go to the next thing. Schwartz and

Sandys is done. Yeah. How many times are people going to go see them, like, perform karaoke? Like, you know what I mean? Not everyone's getting to be the host of Love Island. No, exactly. So it's like, and yes, they have this, but like they can be, they can be better. I mean, they're not, she didn't reveal

anything that bad. I guess that's true. Yeah. It is hard, I will say also, like, I noticed this with a lot of, like, a lot of the housewives that are on cities that aren't based in LA. I think Sheena is lucky in the sense of, like, she lives here. She has more connections to like doing something later. Whereas, like, if I'm like Robin Dixon and I came from Potomac and now I'm like thrust into being this like, or almost having to be like this entertainer. Right. And then like, you're off housewives and you have this podcast and you're like, wait, why am I. am I doing this? Like, so I do, like, I make fun of Gina, but, like,

it's great that she's a real estate agent. Like, she has a real job to go back to, like, once this is all over and, like, whatever. But, like, I,

so I do think about that, though, with other houses that live other places. Like, what, like, Heather Gay is going to be great after this. Like,

say she's not on Salt Lake City. Because she already had the beauty labs. It's a great concept. She already has a couple of them. Right. So, yeah. And,

but what is Whitney, what is Whitney Rose going to do? Well, it's funny that you ask that. We are doing Julie with intention and they're small gold with different kind of astrological signs

and I'm going to relaunch a beauty rose or whatever it is Rose Beauty. Exclusive on Alibaba. Yeah, like, no, it'll just be like another thing. Yeah, and she, or, you know, or you go to do it, or you were part of a drag show with Teresa and you go to Australia

and you get your check. You know what I think about also? But I also say, make your money why you can make it, especially in this time. Because like, take every check you can. Because then when it does really dry up, you would be like, I can't believe I didn't do that $10,000 gig two weeks ago. I mean, Joan Rivers would take every single thing. And she was smart for that. And she had money.

But she was like, this may be the last time they asked me. And that was her thing. Other people are like, I'm going to be a little more selective because I can. and then other people are thinking it's never going to end and it does and then they look back and regret well I should have done everything

I should have done a couple more brand deals or a couple more appearances or whatever yeah that's true I love analyzing this shit I just analyze it forever that's why I love it and that's why I have like

I can relate to these women I have empathy for these women I see what they're doing but you ever feel like there's some housewives who are just there to be there like I feel like that about Emily Simpson I'm like, you're a lawyer, but like, what are you doing?

Like, allegedly, you know, her in-laws are funding her lifestyle, allegedly. So it's like, are you just here for the gag and for the fun? Because what are, what are you contributing? Let me tell you something. My sister's an attorney and it's a lot more easy and a lot more fun to be a real housewife. It is. That's true. It's fucking hard work to be a lawyer.

It's not all you going up and being in court. I mean, it's hours and hours of work. It's dealing with difficult people. It's like, it's a hard-ass job. it's not as lucrative people think. Yeah, no, it's depending on what lawyer you are. Yeah, like, of course, you're like, or do glam and have people write you and say you're so funny and we love you and cameras are there. Like, it's very rare that someone would not want to do it.

Right. It's like if you're auditioning for it, you want to do it and you want to stay on it forever. Right. So, yeah, I get it. And Vicki still does insurance. Right. And now she's using her social media to be like, we just have new insurance policies right up. Because she's like, this is it.

I don't think they're going to bring back Vicky. Because now she's said too many things, one that she had got a parasite from Morocco. But also, like, she's, you know, now has this new way of like, I don't like all this fighting. Well, then forget it. Vicki's problem is that she took it all way too personally. I feel like what Vicky, which she has every right to find it to take it personally. I think what Vicky should have done was never, ever, ever take that friend contract. And I feel like that is where she...

Oh, would she... When she, like, initially, like, was demoted, I feel like she should have never done that. She should have... I feel like she should have done what Tamara did and, like, just stayed quiet, left. Like, not stayed quiet, like, but, like, just not say anything. And, like, she was on for so long. Like, Vicky, did you really, like, being a real housewife that bad? Like, you were in disarray at all times.

Like, I feel like if she, like, just kind of let it go, took the high road. She would have been back, I really think. But I think too much has happened. Too much nonsense has happened. And then, like, it's also who she aligns herself with from time to time. It's just a mess. So I feel like she was just too vocal about being upset and made it everyone's problem that like it made her more like insufferable than she was when she was on. I mean, I really feel like the housewives situation is an addiction.

Yes. And they, you know, they just can't give it up or even if they leave and then they come back like Gretchen. They're like, you know how people now are like sober for 10 years and they're like, you know what I think I can drink again. I know. And it's like, and they do. Then they do. And then they're like out of control. Yeah, and now it's like, oh my God, what did I get myself into?

Like, I was having a good life just doing brand deals and putting bows in my daughter's hair and hanging out with Slade. And now I'm like back being scrutinized because she did that dumb video. Oh, which she, I cannot. Did you see that video that she did with Jen? Yes, I saw the video. That was taken down so fast. Why don't you describe the video? The video is basically like, it was her and Jen and they were like, we're taking down housewives.

and like Gretchen is doing is squinting her eye. They're working out. And they're at a gym clearly. And like Gretchen is squinting her eyes and doing this weird karate chop thing. Jen's doing it too, but just not being as racist. But like what does it matter in the grand scheme of things? But like it was like kind of a dig at Katie. I feel what was just really nasty.

It's like what would, but Gretchen has no D.I. I'm going to say. I'm going to say when they did that dumb Asian soundtrack of like karate or kung fu or whatever. They weren't even thinking of Katie. They were not putting the two to two together. They just thought this was funny. But again, just like the American Eagle, they're dumb. They were dumb. They're dumb. They're not funny. And they actually didn't think it through. No. But, you know, and then I can imagine they did it. And then someone texted her and was like, dude, take that down now. I bet you. It went through all of the girls that don't like her. And they were like, oh,

this is really nasty. People saved it right away. But, you know, but. She probably got a text from like a friend or somebody that was like, take that down. And she was like, what? We're just doing a workout thing. No, don't you get it? It's like an Asian sound and done it on, oh, you know, like that's probably what's going to happen. But, um. Well, Tamara did post like on her threads of Jen being like, um, be careful of the company that you keep.

Like she said that in the show. And then it was an edit of the whole video. And I was like, wait. Okay. She got to eat with that. I'm like, I don't know. By the way, I forgot to mention this. Do you remember the episode in the latest episode when Heather is meeting up with Jen?

And she's clearly in Huntington Beach. And then she asked the waitress. She goes, what are espresso martinis like in these parts? She's wearing, also she's wearing this like all black, like, secret blazer. Like, I can't believe we have me filming. It was like a lunch. Yeah, she goes, why am I here in Huntington Beach? And why am I with Jen?

And what is this dive bar? Yeah, she's like, ooh. Which is said, the waitress looked at her like, in these parts. And they're like, well, we don't put any cream in it. And then they show them like, it's creamy. Yeah. So weird. I don't know why we always have to spend so much time on like ordering the food.

All right. I just only one. Well, apparently Andy Cohen likes that. He likes when they talk. He likes seeing them order. He thinks it makes them real. Okay. That makes more sense.

Real House as a ma'am. We're going to talk a little bit about it. So Gertie. basically pulled a Kenya Moore and she is in a fight with this woman named Julia and she had a big event celebration of life because she's post-cancer but she decided to come back on stage and go by the way

I'm going to share my truth here's all of our text messages on a screen while people are like what is going on and I'm like what if someone was at the Keny Moore event and then was at this one where Ken Moore was showing video of like yeah it was like what's like What? It's going to. So anyway, she has since explained it. Gertie. And basically what it is is the fight was Julia, they all got invited to go on like a two-day trip on a big fancy celebrity cruise for free just so they would post about it. And all these housewives and a lot of influencers got invited. So they were getting paid, but they got invited to go.

So they have fun together and they go And it's just like out of Miami Twirl around near the Bahamas And come home two nights Gertie had just come home from From doing it And And Julie and her close

And Julia's like I'm going tomorrow But now Martina has a medical condition And she can't Can you come with me? And she was like All right I'll go again Like I just did it I'll go again So they go

And according to Gertie Then they have a really fun day one day and then the next night she's like oh they already like gave the spot away to someone else or the spot was only for Martina and she's like why can't I go to this dinner with like Captain Santa everybody else

and Julie was just like sorry you're going to go to this other dinner and then she got there and then there was a mix up and they didn't have her reservation so then she started to feel like a piece of shit why am I here I already came here why did I leave my kids I have a busy week so she got resentful so they were writing some

text message back neither one was too mean to each other it was not out of control but then till everything was fine that all happened before the latest reunion oh that's the juicy part so the reunion happens and she never brings it up julia never brings it up they're fine the miscommunication whatever happened

then they start filming and it's my belief that julia had shared it with producers and stuff and they were like bringing that shit up we gotta have conflict So then she starts to bring it up saying that like Julia, that Gertie took over and it was all about her and she was, you know, annoying and she was making all these connections and it was her invite. And of course, Gertie's like, I already went two days ago. Like we were with like Jen Fessler's of the world. Like we were with everybody was like, this wasn't like a big thing.

I don't know. This is what I think happened. I think Julia did invite her, did beg for her to come. and then just got annoyed by her and wanted to have a dinner by herself. You know what? That's true. That's all it is. And she was like... She didn't do her due diligence

and like getting, making sure she was at the table, making sure she was everywhere. You know other people go have dinner with someone else? I kind of want to just like, you took over. Maybe Gurney didn't realize that, but the last dinner she was taking over. I had a friend like that like someone would ask me a question and because she knew me so well,

she would like answer it for me. Oh, that's annoying. And I was like, I don't want to ever. have a dinner like that again. Now I'm not saying that we don't know. But I think then when the opportunity came up where it was like, oh, well, the seat was for you and Martinez. She's probably like, that's fine. She probably didn't say, oh, put Gertie in that speech. Because of course they would have said no problem. Yeah. But I think, and so then, so, but then they asked her to make a bigger deal out of it. And, and then when, and then Gertie was like, what the fuck

is going on? Then the splashing of the water was so performative. And that was just a a lot and I just didn't like how nobody defended her in that moment but then they're like coming down on Gertie for the text I'm like but I don't know Julie was just being Julie just wants to be a part of the cool girls club with Marisone Alexia and that's what I don't really like and I feel like this whole problem

with Gertie you're mad because she shines harder than you and like she had this really big cancer storyline and she's more she is more popular than Julia in the grand scheme of things so yeah to your point like I get like probably she's I mean I really did I think the fight really just stem from like a miscommunication that

then if they weren't on a reality show, it would have never been brought up. Again. It was just like some, there's been times when I'm not invited to things in my life. And at first I would take it to heart, like, why? And then I was like, probably because I might, I might be too much. It doesn't mean that that friend doesn't love me. It just means that maybe that friend just didn't want me there. Like they just didn't, you know, and you have a right.

And I think that's what it was. But she should have invited her. She should have found a spot for her. she asked her to come and if she wasn't going to be a delight the whole time she shouldn't have asked her to come. If you wanted to have another friend that was going to sit and be quiet in the background, then invite that person and impress them. Don't invite a non-housewife. Yeah, exactly.

And I feel like she should have had that figured out from the moment Martina couldn't go. She could have been like, hey, Gertie's coming. Replace, replace, replace, put her there. The fact that she didn't even do any of that and just thought like, oh, she's just going to come again. I don't know. Or maybe she even thought on her mind like, well, she was just here. like I can't imagine. They wouldn't like comment on her.

Yeah. And then Gertie's like, turks is like, oh, it's all of, you make it all about you and whatever. And Gertie's right. She's like, look, they're all,

all these housewives have a type personalities outgoing. They're not introverts. They probably are on the narcissistic spectrum, but not everyone is a full narcissist. Right. But like, yeah, you know,

of course, I want to get the most airtime. Of course, I want to be getting everything you're getting. Like, we're on the same show. I'm going to be, even if you get something a cover of a magazine

I'm gonna be like that's great when am I getting a cover when am I getting a cover like you're not like we're just crazy because I thought these things you're like it's not that I don't want Gertie to get a cover but I'd like a cover too like that is what it is as someone who knows these women have been following this for years

so many of the fights are that success the success has come and they feel that someone is either you know not including them when they did include them and we're not sharing the spotlight to and one person's like, well, I mean, I want to be my bigger star. We all came on this show to be a star. We did not come to be in a girl's band.

It's Bethany and Jill all. Absolutely, Bethany and Jill. Because I'm rewatching from the beginning of New York. Because I like kind of watch New York when it started. And then I like, obviously I've seen like the reruns of like the best seasons. But now I'm like watching the beginning and I'm seeing the Bethany and Jill breakdown. I'm like, this is all silly. I can't believe Bethany doesn't talk to Jill over this.

Like, whatever. It's amazing. And then Alexia's back with Todd. Okay. let's talk about Real Housewives of O.C. What do we think that's going on here? Okay, so it's a good season so far. Like, it's gutter-snip as ever.

Like, I love Orange County. There's something so white and silly about it that, like, I just can appreciate. Like, it reminds me of all the moms I grew up with, like, derogatory. But, like, I love these dolls. Like, they know how to put on a good show. Some of them I really can't stand. Like, Gene and Emily just give T.J. Max. But, like, other than that, everyone else is good.

Like, I just feel like I was so pissed, though, in the first episode, I'm like, why are Gina and Emily running shit? Why are they telling me that I can't like Katie? I'm like, I don't, tell me why I should like you. Like, you guys are so annoying. Like, I just, and then like, I just, I can't with them. I just find them so unfabulous. Like, I just, like, they were just so unfab.

And so when they're telling me, like, what to do and what to like and why everybody else shouldn't be liking it, and like, why am I rooting for the unfab? Like, everyone is just so camp on this cast. Like, Heather's obviously camp for certain reasons. Jen is camp. Jen can't pay her bills, but she's camp. Tamara's psychotic, but she's camp. Like, everyone has their thing and they just have none of it.

I'm like, but we're entertained and we're talking about it. That's true. Even if people say I hate the show and it's so bad, I'm like, as long as that's not boring, but I do feel badly because I'm like, this has become the Real Housewives of blackmailing. Yeah, with the bloggers and the receipts. And I'm like, and first of all, I want to say like Tamara has been talking to people that do what I do, when I was the only one doing it, and I was a person she was talking to, she was doing this for 17 years.

She's been putting out information, in my opinion, to get stuff out about people that she is at odds with. She has fake pretended to be friends with Gretchen when she knew that one year, like, she had to make up with her and gave her the pink bracelet. She, you know, then she found Jesus. And then she goes, oh, no one has. Her founding Jesus storyline is my fave, by the way. I mean, and nobody has a storyline, whatever. You know what she said in her speech?

She goes, at her baptism, I quote this line day in and day out. She goes, what was once my mess is now my message. And I literally, I have the craziest crash out and I'll be like, what was once my mess like 48 hours ago? It's now my message. And also I was like, remember that baptism? I was just like, could you have just gone to someone's house pool? But that's camp. I know.

But like, I don't want. want to see the baptism with the, like, handicapped, like, you know, railing and how the person could go in through, like, the wheelchair access and then, like, how it says, like, four feet, you know, like. But would you rather see that versus seeing Emily pick up a hard-boiled egg and put it in her purse and be like, oh, I'm so quirky. Look at me. Like, to eat all the time.

Like, okay. Also, yes, I totally agree. Tamara, I never want to see Tamara or Shannon go. They, or have to bro. Or Heather. All three of them. They run that show. They run it so bad.

They are fun to watch. They are intriguing. And then we know them. So I'm never for like getting anyone off. But I'm just saying like it is weird that you know, like Emily's espresso martini, which is like whatever I'd imitate her always said espresso martini. Like all this has her special martin. Everything about her is food. And then she brings up the fact that her son has this eating disorder, which is a real thing.

I don't like that she's doing that, by the way. the cover of New York Magazine is Dread at the Dinner Table, which is about this, this childhood eating disorder. So I understand like why she made the decision to talk about it, but I understand why people don't like as far as because he's 10. He's not too... Yeah, is she asking him like, hey, can I talk about your eating disorder? Like, I don't really like all of that.

I don't like it either. And like, it's just, it is just weird. Wait, let's just talk about their tagline since I think that they are like parodies of themselves. These taglines are the worst. So I have them written out here. Heather DeBrow. I love my life in the hills

and I always take the high road. But it's like, shouldn't you be taking the road to Orange County? I think that, I think it was, I'm redoing this House of the Hills. I'm going to feature my son who's got his real estate license. And we're moving everything.

We kind of, you know, a goal is to just like have our own show about like real estate houses in L.A. I don't know what the goal is, but that's her thing. So whatever. You know, we know they give them like five and they're like, fine, I'll pick this one. Yeah. And Shannon Storms Bedore, for what? The only dogs in my life are golden retrievers. I don't understand that. It makes no sense. Like, it means that dogs are bad guys and she had Jim Jansen. Yeah, but it was like, that was the only bad guy. Well, I guess you've had several.

I'm not even analyzing this, like as if this is an English class. Emily Simpson, I may not be her cup of tea, but I'll bring you an espresso martini. Oh, God. They're always food and beverage related. Remember the taco tagline she had? It's low-key kind of fat-phobic. It really is. Can you stop giving Emily these fat-phobic, like, taglines, please?

She thinks she's, like, so iconic because she brought the turkey sandwich into the sauna, which we know is like... And it's like... No. Like, first of all, that's disgusting. And then, like, second, I'm like, that wasn't even that cool. It wasn't even that funny. No. Gina.

I may work in real estate, but that doesn't mean I'm buying what you're selling. I actually think that's okay. I actually think that's okay because when the show is over, she's still going to have to be a realtor. So I think just keep with, at least get something out of it. Do you think Gina and Heather get mad that they're both essentially having the same like real estate storyline? But I guess Gina's real estate is more like Keller Williams-esque. Like that's like what I think of it. Where like Heather is like, no, I'm like doing shit with like the Altman brother is like different.

And Josh Flatt. Yeah, yeah. Katie's is, I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but my truth. That's fine. I kind of think that's fine, being that she's called a liar all the time and there's a lie detector test and is she a liar? Is she psycho? Or is she just doing what everybody else did? But now there's just more people reporting on it that she can talk to than there were 10 years ago when other people did it. Okay. Tamara, Judge, I'm taking a hard look in the mirror and my reflection is still hot. I don't, actually I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I like it. Actually, I would argue it's the best one because it's dividends off of like whatever she did years ago. The first time was I'm the hottest housewife. Yeah.

Yeah. And then she did one for her 10 year that was like, I forget what it was, but it's like 13, 10 years in the game and I'm still hot or something like that. Yeah. But yeah. And then Jennifer's is, life can be hard, but so are my abs. So cheesy, but also. But that's kind of her vibe. That is.

That's what makes her what? Fab. Yeah. Her body, she did go through a major improvement, whether it's... No, she looks amazing. I mean, clearly, not clearly. In my opinion, I do think she had work done on her body plastic surgery-wide. But she's obviously keeping it up.

And I think it's funny that, like, she and Tamara are, like, in competition kind of with each other. Because Tamara's like, I did the workout that, you know, she did the whole thing with the tanning. A lot of competing storylines here. With a workout, whatever. So now this girl is a bigger workout person. and, you know, probably if you're going to really pick it apart, might even have like a more whatever appealing figure if that's what you're looking for to be in a bikini.

Doesn't matter. They all have good bodies. But I've decided why they'll hate each other. Everyone's competing for different storylines. It's like we've got the Oppenheim brothers. And then we have the real estate thing with Heather and Jada. We have the real estate divas. We have the workout divas.

The workout divas. And then I feel like these two are having like a liar off. All the time. About Shanna Bador, where she's like, you are the worst person ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, no, there's a lot of, I feel like everyone on this cast is jealous of what everybody has when they all essentially, like, have their own different thing, but they don't realize it. Like, they think they're in competition.

It's like, no, you guys, this, but I love that they think that because that's what makes the show great. I think it's always going to be, I don't care when people get mad, like, they're not rich or they're not, whatever. I, I, I don't care. care. As long as even if it's dumb and lame, it's something. Now, the question is, but some of them aren't rich or not. Is Katie, is Katie a complete psychopath liar? Or is she just being faced?

Is she too much of a newbie to know that she can't lie? Because, you know, like, when Shannon goes, okay, so for people that are like, I'm not watching the show, I'm explaining it to you. Katie filmed Shannon having a freak out when they were doing their photo. shoot, which is this, this, what they call the gallery, like when they're all together. She probably came in, you know, in a dramatic moment with her head cut off. Who knows what happened? We don't know if a pipe burst. Well, she was pissed because Alexis was there.

And I guess she was told that they weren't going to be there at the same time. But also, Shannon, you know Alexis is on the show and you know you're going to have to see her anyway. So wait a minute. So this whole thing. she was having a meltdown about Alexis being there. So wait, did they do this silver photo shoot and you're just using it for two seasons? I think they are.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, how lazy. That's how, I know, it's kind of cheap. Honestly, probably needs to fix some things. The taglines are pissing me off because I'm like, okay, they used to be such an institutional part of the franchise and I feel like we are not trying hard enough.

Like, when Ramona said, like, I'm an acquired taste, if you don't like me, acquire some taste. Like, literally, that was my Instagram bio for at least 18 months. Wait, let me do it as a remark. Bona, I'm an acquire taste. If I'm not your taste, then acquire some taste.

Loved it. And then like when Candy was like, I may be small. Oh, like people died when she said that. Wait, who said that? Candy. Oh yeah, maybe that. But she didn't, didn't she do it as a singing? Yeah, she was like singing and everyone's like, and people died. Yeah. But like now it's like, it's not even so much

the taglines. It's more of like the delivery of them. It's like, so I saw this girl go, I just asked chat GPT to do my tagline. How's Wife? tagline based on my social media. And it came out pretty good. Like she was into cooking or something. And it was like, I may be sipping and tasting, but I'm done it.

I don't know what. So I'm like, I definitely think producers and everybody used mine abused it. Oh, yeah. You know what? So funny. Someone of my comments said that they're like, it does give chat GBT this year. And I'm like, then I don't like that. I feel like some of the production is getting a little lazy.

Everyone's getting lazy. Right? Just like the person who came up with the American Eagle ad. That was lazy too. Lazy. That's what I kept thinking to myself with that. Sorry to go back to that. But that's what it gave.

It was like lazy. We need something for Q3. Like this will work. Is Sidney available? Like that's all. That's what it gave. Right. I feel like everyone's doing this deep dive.

Even myself, I'm doing a deep dive. Like what could have went wrong? It's like laziness. That's it. No one wants to work anymore. No. Nobody wants to work these days. I agree.

So wait. So what happened was she's having a freak out. And Katie filmed it. Share it with Alexis. just to be like, look who's freaking out over here. Like, I got you, girl. And then Alexis then told Tamara that she saw the video of her freak out. Tamara then told Heather, who then told her.

And now she's like, that is illegal. It's not, I don't know if it's illegal or not. I think anyone can be filmed if you're in a public place. She's so eye. So technically you weren't in a public place, it doesn't matter. But then when Heather, when Katie's faced with her at this, at this party, at Heather's party, and Shannon says to her, you know, why would you, you showed it to all these people and she lies and she goes,

well, only my husband saw it, which we know that's a lie. Yeah. But I'm like, if this wasn't a reality show and you, your friend goes, I know, now everybody knows that I slept with Joe and I only told you and you told a whole group of people. And I'm facing you and you're like, no, I only told Jenny. like you might lie and go I only told Jenny because there aren't cameras

and not this night so I still think she might be a liar like that like she just doesn't think she doesn't tell the whole truth right she doesn't really think it through but it's like what she should have said was Shannon I'm really sorry I filmed you

but you know what you're freaking out and that's what you know and so when Alexis and I were bonding someone crazy like you when Alexis and I were bonding I go well look like she was freaking out like I shouldn't have done it because you thought I

had your, we were friends. And I was doing it just to try to bond with Alexis. But you're right, it was fucked. But I also will say, Shannon, if you weren't freaking out, I wouldn't have had anything to film. Right. Like, why are you acting like that in a public place? Like, that is jarring to people. And also, freaking out is your brand.

Right. It's made you a star for 15 years. They all say the truth. Like, it would be different if it was somebody that, if it was you know, Heather DeBrow freaking out or Lisa Vanderpump. Someone that we've never really seen like lose their shit on camera. Right.

Then that would be juicy. Then it would be like, oh my God. Like this could actually hurt the image I put out. We know Shannon's messy. We know she's dramatic. We know she makes things about herself. We know she wants to be seen as a victim. She wants people to feel sorry for her.

She confides in way too many people. Like, we know that. So what was, so what was this? I wish she gaslit her like a little more being like, I was just scared. You scared me. Oh, that would have been a good one too. I would have been like, Do that.

That would have been a good one. I'm kind of friends with her. I'm like, I wish she called me before she even did any of all of this. Well, she had 17 other people to call. I'm like, girl. She's got everybody on her DM list. She's so nice and she's so great. Like, she's always been nice to me.

But I'm like, Katie, I would have told you easily never to give Tamara that information. Like that, the red nose is on you for that. Like, I can't even, like, you should have never told. Of course she was going to go and tell people that. So like, that's, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You know what's also really weird is, you know, they go, kids are off limits. But the show is called Real Housewives. And it started because this was a, they chose women who had a husband and kids.

Right. And there was a way to do it where, you know, we only saw like, you know, Countess Luann's little boy, like, rap were like, breakdance once. Yes. Like, we really never knew. Being raised by the nanny. Yeah, we never knew what those kids were doing. we did know that Jill Zarin's daughter

went to like a fat camp but that she like now laughs about and I remember seeing that and kind of going wow you know but like obviously she's fine they're doing great today but there's that element of it don't bring the kids into it

but you put the kids on camera so unless you're in a situation where like and the only time kids are not a part of it is when a housewife's ex-husband legally says they can't be on the show other than that people want their kids on They want to show their kids. That is a storyline.

If you, or storyline, it's about your life. So if your life is struggling with a kid who is, you know, having issues, then, then get off the show if you don't want to share it. So I do see that, like, sometimes the housewife doesn't have a choice. The producers know what's going on. They've asked. And then they encourage them to do it. And this is now the livelihood or whether they need the money or not because the in-laws across, the street pay for everything, like an Emily's case or whatever.

So allegedly. But if that's the case. I love your allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly. These are the streets. The streets are saying, Mama Joyce's streets. Yeah, the streets are talking. So, I mean, it's just, that's the thing.

It's like, but I also think then no behavior critical about it. Like, if you're going to talk about how somebody lost custody or decided that their ex-husband should raise the kid or they didn't have a choice, I think that's, like, gross. and that we don't know the truth between Katie's story. We may never know the truth. But I also feel like, Emily, you started, the whole thing that bothers me about that whole thing, though, is like, Emily was mad about this nanny nonsense,

which, by the way, her getting an attorney for that, I just find abysmal. Like, I'm just like, why did you have to hire a nanny for, like, reaching out to Katie? Also, you and your husband are attorneys. You can't do one fucking thing yourself. Well, I get that, though, because I know attorneys don't want to represent themselves.

But I also feel, like, at the end of the day, like, all this woman did, like, all the drama is is that, like, you were just mad that you got caught talking shit about Heather Debrough and your kid told Katie's daughter. Like, and you just honestly got mad at her because you want to save face in front of Heather Debrough. And that's the root of everything. It wasn't Heather Debrough. It was Heather McDonnell.

She's a fucking bitch. Give me an espresso martini. Exactly. So many women are called Heather. But is that worth, like, going to the reunion and being like, well, I heard, like, you and your kids, you left them and they have custody. I'm like, all because you upset Heather Debrough talking shit. Like, that just isn't equal.

Right. And, like, what kind of digging are you doing? So they're all doing the digging. It's all blackmailing each other. They all have contacts with bloggers. It's fine. People do. I just feel like in this day and age, it's a little bit more, it's deemed as a little bit more nasty post-monica because everyone's kind of like a content creator and everyone's like a journalist.

Versus like back in the day, it's like she told page six. And it seems like more exclusive because it's so hard. I know that housewives that are, you know, sworn to secrecy of what happens in the final episode, go and tell people. that have accounts and podcasts and stuff. They have their phone number and they tell them. And they tell them in the hopes that it gets out to fuck whoever behaved badly on the final season. So they're doing it.

Right. These women are doing it. So it's like, and it's fine because I'm talking about it on my show. So keep it coming. I don't really care. But just don't try to act like you've got the moral high horse. It's now a game and everyone's playing it and it is what it is. It's never going to be what it was 10 years.

ago before social media. That's true. And the stinks in this franchise are so not even high. Yeah, now that there's no one like stealing someone's man, who cares. I know. Okay, let's talk about,

oh my God, look at this photo of how that Tamara posted this. This is cute. The original cast of, yeah, what do you think of the Gretchen and Joe of it all? You know what? I like the move

because I feel like Tamara was smart enough to know that Gretchen isn't mature enough to handle seeing her, I would, her boyfriend's ex of like a decade ago. Like what was-than-a-de-go? More than a decade ago. Like, what was Joe really going to do? Go confront them? Like, no.

Like, Gretchen, step your pussy up. Like, I just feel like, like, you should not. That was your time to be like, okay, hi, Joe, how are you? Like, kind of gag Tamara about, like, of course, she's like, my thing with Gretchen is that, like, Tamara's right in the sense that she brings up stuff from, like, the Stone Age. And it's like, how are you really mad about all of this? still like I feel like I think she's mad at it because she feels that you know when you get when you get asked to not come back whether you think it's better for you or not you always are

going to be like blaming the person the people that you had issues with and she had issues with Tamara at the end and then when you know then Tamara got a hold of of Slade's ex-wife and made that a whole thing did she do that though because I just heard that she like put out the go fund me on the podcast because it was like in People magazine or something and then she just had to talk about it on the podcast. I will say like so this is kind of an interesting story for the again for people, not everybody is up on it. So let me just explain.

So Slade had two sons when he was dating Joe when we first saw it. One is older and you know was almost 18 when she was around. The other one which was another woman had severe medical issues and has since passed. and when that boy passed throughout the show Tamara was always trying to say that Slade didn't pay his child support so there was money that was owed and this and that

then the boy passed and she put it out on her podcast and everything that I've talked to the mother of this child and she needs money for GoFund me for the funeral or whatever and so Gretchen really felt like that was awful

and Gretchen put out her own thing where she talked about this boy and that her daughter was with, like, they've all met, they've all done things together. None of us really know the situation. But we're talking about a child that passed. Like, it just was, I don't know. But isn't it, like, at least she's putting out the go fund me, kind of.

Like, you know, wanting people to donate. That's how I see it. Because I feel like... I think, you know what, if that was, if you really didn't want to hurt Gretchen and you really didn't want to hurt a father who did lose his son, which is Slate. then go give it to one of those bloggers. That's also true.

You could absolutely be a Lisa Varepov who would give stuff to other people to run with. But technically with Tamara and her podcast, I don't want to say she's a blogger, but if that shows up on her housewives desk, then like, you know. Right, of course. You can do that too,

and I'm like getting it, get into it too. But I sometimes, I've been, you know, like, well, we'll get to it. Let me tell you what, like, happened with, let's just jump over to, Wait, by the way, this is so funny. Is that you? Are you the skunk in the barnyard?

Yes, so just watch. Now that I'm talking about this, this will be removed by Thursday afternoon, okay? But this has been up there for weeks. People have sent this to me. When you go to Peacock and you want to watch old episodes of Orange County, there's photos of, you know, from the episode. So there's Shannon Bador crying for her vow. renewal or whatever. And then there's this episode, season nine, episode 10. So go to season

nine, episode 10 on your peacock. If I am no longer the cover art, it's because thank you, Bravo, you listen to the show. I, they used me from when I went to Heather DeBrow's thing, and they call it skunk in the barnyard. Now, according to my friend who said it to me, they watched the episode, I'm not even in it. I thought, oh, this must be from when Shannon, when Heather had her Breaking of the Ground party and we all went to the rodeo and I brought my son and everything. According to

this, no, they just wanted to write a meme thing on my face and I don't hate the photo. I don't hate it too. You actually look like you're living there and I find it so funny. I mean, I'm flattered by it so I don't want them to take it down. Yeah, I think you look good. It's funny. Who cares?

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