Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Taylor Swift Backlash and Funny Real Housewives with Chef Stu
Episode Date: October 7, 2025Chef Stu is here! Meredith Marks clapped back at me! Diddy got 4 years and Aubrey O’Day speaks out. Lori Loughlin and Mossimo are divorcing. Taylor Swift's new album has even Swifties complaining an...d Stu is an expert. On RHOC Gina doesn’t find Heather Dubrow funny but Tamra fake crying is funny. Our first lesbian marriage real housewives cheating scandal has arrived in Miami. I break down the Scheana vs Lala war in the valley. We also cover fashion week, more lesbians and what Meghan Markle should regret. So juicy so funny. For a limited time get 20% off Bed Bundles, plus free shipping and returns, at https://BollAndBranch.com/juicyscoop For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to https://Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code JUICYSCOOP This month, you can get an extra $100 site credit when you sell for the first time. Go to https://TheRealReal.com/juicy to get your extra hundred dollars Visit https://joinBLVD.com to learn more about Boulevard and book a demo to see if it’s right for your business. And for a limited time, Boulevard is offering new customers 20% off your first year subscription Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: https://bit.ly/juicycrimes Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
I have our delight, your favorite chef, chef stew.
Hi.
Welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
Thanks for having me.
You are here.
We're going to get into so many things because you are an expert on many.
But let's just get into some breaking news, which is not breaking at all because I've said it a bunch of times.
November 14th, I will be at the MGM Grand, 10 p.m.
That's Friday night in Vegas at the bravacan weekend.
And you are also going to be coming.
I'm going to be there.
For the whole weekend.
At my show.
Yes.
Lots of fun.
Fun, drinks.
Horing yourself out.
Yes.
We'll see Housewives.
I don't know where they're saying.
We're going to figure that out.
So it would just be there every night at the bar.
I do know where they are.
Oh, great.
Yeah, okay.
I'll let you know.
I had some drama happen with me just this morning that I woke up to.
With what?
With Real Housewives of Salt Lake.
So on Thursday's show, I did a solo show.
Great.
And I just was going through and I was talking about Real House of Salt Lake, which I thoroughly enjoy.
And I'd come across a reality blurb article that they must have gotten, I think, from like Bravo TV, where Meredith showed off.
for $70,000 a month home in Salt Lake or Park City or wherever it is.
And whatever, I just went on a little rant and I was like, you know,
they don't pay these women enough.
Like to be spending, you should learn how to do your own glam.
You should, you know, try to get sponsors for your parties.
You should not be paying, like we all know what can happen once you get the boot.
Over and over again.
And people forget about you.
So anyway, I just kind of went on a rant on that.
and then we made a clip of it.
And I was kind of like, oh, God, is someone going to be like,
why are you talking about someone's money?
All I was saying was like, Bravo should pay these people more.
So that they can live the luxurious life that the fans demand, right?
So anyway, comments by Bravo, it's kind of like comments by syllable,
but caught that she had written under it, which I did not know.
And Meredith Mark said,
while I've not spoken about what I
Wait, let me do it, my voice.
Why I've not spoken
about what I spend, I appreciate
your concern. It's only
irresponsible to spend
what you cannot afford. Fortunately
I live well below
my means. No need
to worry. Sincerely, Meredith
Mark's J.D. MBA, DJ.
Please stop. You can leave
now. So
anyway,
total great
clapback
also what I did see
what I posted this
is that people were writing
saying Heather
she has huge family money
I saw something
that she inherited
150 million dollars
I said I didn't know that
and if you do
then yeah
spend 80,000 a month
yeah great
I didn't know that
I was just going off
of that I think
that they never pay
these housewives enough
but I think they're getting
like those Orange County
bitches are getting about 900,000
yeah but when it's over
It's over.
It's still a lot of money, though.
If you get like three or four good runs out of it.
But that's why you have that.
If you invest it right.
Exactly.
So even if you're getting that, you shouldn't be spending an enormous amount of money on rent when they barely film in your house.
Sure. Yeah.
That's all I was saying is that it concerns the people at home that have been watching for 20 years when we see something like this.
Now that I know that she has $150 million.
And probably Brooks is writing this because he's a little clever delight.
I love it.
And I've said, go, go, go watch your DJ, go buy the caviar.
She can do whatever she wants.
Do whatever you want, girl.
She's down at Beach's Tropicana last week, just spinning it up.
You know, she was.
Disgusting.
I love it.
I bet Lisa Barlow wishes she had that money.
I bet you wish Lisa Barlow wishes she had that money.
Right.
Right.
She also tapped on one of my reels this week.
Yeah.
I was talking, I was with Etsy cop out on and we were talking about it.
Because we were saying like in the scene in Salt Lake, right?
They're going to the party, right?
This is where Bronwyn takes her out, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And she's in the car, and you can see Lisa's face,
and she's just really, like, anxious, nervous.
Like, there's something wrong.
Yeah.
I just was like, and S.E. was like, yeah, I saw that too.
And I was like, I think there's something major happening.
Like, I think, like, bankruptcy major, like, whatever.
So then she commented, like, so they heard I did a tip of that, right?
She commented, absolutely not.
You know what, Chef Stu?
Why don't you stick to your spices?
Yeah, right.
because I have a very successful business, okay?
I'm going to go the distance on this one.
The show is extremely entertaining for many of those reasons.
And, yeah, then it got into a pissing match on that episode about Angie has these hair salons,
but she doesn't own all of them.
She has franchised them out.
And so she owns a couple.
It's like the same way that people thought that Mauricio owned every agency.
So every time you see an agency pop in your house,
You're like, Kyle must be just swimming in it.
No, it's like he was just the CEO of the face of it or whatever.
And she has ownership in it, though, as well, right?
I don't know.
But everyone's doing fine, okay?
Go spend $70,000 a month, Angie.
Anyway, so then, but just going back and forth on the businesses is like, I mean, that is kind of, I didn't know she had hair sounds.
I think that is interesting.
I mean, that is real.
That's better than, like, you ate the bow off my cake or whatever.
So, like, it's all good.
good but um okay we're getting in some just to update diddy got four years and matt murphy who's
on my show all the time former prosecutor he predicted exactly that he said he'll get four years
and then get out in 18 months and then a man who says he's like got HIV now oh now there's a new
lawsuit that i hadn't even gotten to that so there's a new lawsuit of a man suing um he diddy
saying he contracted HIV after a sexual assault from an unknown person and an after party,
and therefore he's suing him too.
So, I mean, he still has all these lawsuits he has to deal with.
The family was, you know, their kids crying, which we didn't get to see because it's a federal case.
Supposed he, like, fell to his knees.
And then Mark Garagos went on TMZ and he said that Sean Diddy Combs will call prison home for more than two.
years and then he does have a target on his back for sexual and other violent assaults so he's
scared that um you know he might be sexually taken advantage of which is just the i mean all the
comments were like karma's a bitch like what do you want dude yeah and then aubrio day um had
written this thing um because she you know was part of his tv show about making the band and she
has never really said what went on but she was always saying like he's he's he's a
He's not a good person.
This is bad.
And so she wrote a thing, just saying, to all the young artists there,
if you're ever in a position where you feel like, you know,
they're asking you to do something that is beyond what you're comfortable with,
just leave right then.
Like, just leave right then.
And then she, like, you know, had done it so it was based on him going to prison.
Like, she always knew.
Do something else.
Yeah.
And so good for that.
Okay.
So in other long-term marriages getting divorced news,
We had a big breakup happened.
After 28 years of marriage,
Lori Laughlin, the actress,
N. Mossimo, I'm just going to call it Mossimo,
because it's the name's too hard.
They've been married forever, you know,
her from, but really we know them
from the scandal, the college scandal,
which is where I covered it a lot,
I was obsessed.
They had both their daughters,
but one was a little more famous than the other,
Olivia Jade, because she's this big YouTuber.
And for one I heard, she was getting,
Like a 3-2 or something at school.
That does not get you into USC in the last 20 years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she got into SC and when they exposed the scandal
of where this guy would take money from the parents,
give it to different people at these different schools,
Harvard and whatnot, got them in also under the guys
that they're an athlete.
Yes.
So they put her in, they went to Equinox
and put her on a rowing machine
and squirted some water in her face
and said that she was rowing out in Marina
Del Rey, well, the school then realized
we don't have a rowing team.
And when they, and then
in all of this, he
was threatening the counselor. And I don't even
want to say the school, but it's an all-girl
Catholic high school that's on sunset.
So anyway, that all happened.
Then she gets into loving
life, her life at SC.
And when it all broke down,
the alleged story I heard was
they were actually enjoying
their time on Rick Caruso's yacht
during their spring break.
His kids were her sorority sisters.
And he was like, Doc the boat.
What the fuck is happening here?
And then it all got exposed.
And they both went to prison.
She went for five months.
And he went for like nine or longer.
And, you know, much like Teresa and her husband, but not as like.
And they came back and they were still together.
And she was back, you know, doing her thing.
and now they're getting divorced
and people are like, why, you know,
why so, and I'm like,
I would, like, I could swear like you'd see him
at like the Abbey on a Saturday night.
Honestly, I mean, that scarf.
The scarfs a lot, but he also is a fashion guy.
Oh, true, okay.
You know what is interesting about his background
is that he was at USC
and again, alleged story,
is that he lied to his parents
about going to the school.
He took the tuition money
and put it towards building this clothing thing.
Wow.
So it was like, the bad news is,
like I wasn't going to class,
the good news is I already have like an established business.
And apparently this clothing business is,
you know, so huge a target, whatever,
he's worth billions.
And so, you know,
but then people were like,
oh, there was deception, whatever, the whole thing.
They all did their time.
Olivia Jade is just,
she's like, fuck.
this. They both left the school and like she's having fun. And, um, they both look young and
cute. They do. Yeah. And so I know it's hard. And I said this when we were talking about Nicole
Kidman, like when people are like, why bother now? Like a younger person. It's like because we live
to over 100. If you're not happy, you have all the money in the world. The kids are grown. You,
you did stick together during that time. Probably we don't know. Maybe they were on the verge of divorce
prior to that.
Yeah.
And then they're like,
the last thing
we're going to do
is put our kids
through another thing
when let's just stick together
do what everything
we're supposed to do.
But in doing that,
I remember like,
who's the blonde woman
you were just for saying?
Felicity happened.
Felicity happened right away
like fell on the sword.
What do I need to do?
I feel horrible.
I feel horrible that I did this
to my daughter.
And she...
Over 10 grand.
That's all it was.
But I think she did a little.
did a little bit of time.
She did, she did a few months.
Her thing was she had someone, like, fix the girl's answers.
So she got, like, there was like a paid proctor.
So when you test the SAT, then they would take that test, correct it.
And so I was saying it was like the opposite.
And then maybe the daughter didn't know.
And so I was saying it's kind of like the opposite of the meanest mother in the world with the high, what was it?
The catfish high school catfish store.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
like she was actually doing
like a nice thing without her daughter knowing
like putting out Christmas gifts
for a toddler like let me just fix
your test and you won't know and then you're like
mom guess where I got into
and so anyway I predicted that she
would be back acting and she is she's got a show
yeah she's my favorite but they fought it a little bit
they fought it and they tried to say like we were
entrapped by the main guy
and I always wonder if during that
time the conversations that must have been
going on in their house of like
finger pointing. I never even
you know, I didn't care if she would have gone to
U of A. Yes, you didn't want to go
and get, you know, be in the hot
stands of Phoenix.
You wanted, or Tucson, you
wanted her to go to U.S.A. You wanted
her to go to U.S.E. Like, whatever
it was. Do you think the husband knew
to William, William Macy knew
or like, or do you think she did it without
his knowledge or? If he knew
it was like, again,
one of us is going to, only
one of us, because they tried to see if he
knew. And they just wasn't enough
there. So if he did, fine.
But like, yeah, if
you're in this relationship where
you've always just been like,
honey, you decorate the house you like, you choose
the school, you, I mean,
filling out those apps, I was
so critical until I had to
help those kids fill out the apps.
And then I was like, who the fuck could I write a check to? This is a
fucking nightmare. It's huge. It's hard.
It's a nightmare. And if
somebody, I'm not saying I would
do it. I would know not to do it.
but I could see why
they all knew each other
so it was just like telling your
friend oh I've got the tennis coach
for you for your kid
oh just
I got you girl
our girls will be on Rick Caruso's yacht
being capas like I got you girl
like you know and so then you're like
oh okay because once you get in there
you can handle the school work
it's just getting in they make it so
crazy hard yeah so anyway
they're broken up
We'll see.
She was out seeing out having dinner.
Lori Loughlin was spotted embracing James Tupper.
I don't know who that is.
It is so funny.
One day before the split news.
They could be friends or they could be something more.
Like in Ireland, like there's nothing like a process like that.
It's literally you do your final exams in high school.
You get points.
You get in or you don't get in.
And that's it.
But that's what I remember when I visited Ireland that I thought I should be so grateful to be American.
Because when I went like in the late 80s, they were, it was.
just like it was decided at like 12
if you were going to work at pennies
or if you were going to be a doctor.
Yeah.
And I thought, oh my God, that's so awful.
At America, you have so many chances
to go to school later in life,
go through the junior college system.
I changed schools because I was put in a lower class.
So I had to change to a different school
in countryside.
And so then I could choose which classes
I had to get a bus every fucking morning for 30 minutes,
you know, in high school.
And then I got into the better classes
that got me better points to...
I look at you now on.
juicy school. Clearly, Ireland didn't know
that you are not a complete genius, intellectual
genius. Rapping on about housewives and writing housewives
cookbooks. Yes, exactly. Keith Urban, people
think that he hated Nicole Kinman
in Baby Girl because she was having all the orgasms with the younger
guy. He also changed the words to one of his songs
I heard this.
And was like, hey, Maggie, some 25-year-old guitar player.
But then she was missing from the next show.
They don't know if she was missing because of online hate or if she's not really part of the band or if they're having an affair.
Then I read something, no, she's pregnant and that's going to come out.
So is he with somebody new now?
People think he might be with this female guitarist, but nothing's been confirmed.
Poor Nicole.
You know, so then, like, that's why she then filed.
Like, they did the separation and then she was like,
I have to file first because there is someone else.
And I don't want to be humiliated.
Yeah, yeah.
How long were they married?
Oh, they were married like 20 years.
Wow.
And they, I thought their daughters were older, but I think the youngest is like 14.
And so, you know.
Did they have kids together?
Yeah, they have two daughters.
And then she has kids then with Tom Cruise as well.
Yeah, but when she left Scientology, she couldn't, never saw those kids again.
Really?
Yeah.
It was a girl and a boy, and they're both still Scientologists.
And they're with Tom.
Well, now they're adults.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, you know, which always made sense why I think Katie Holmes was like, I need to get out now.
Yeah.
And then he never saw that kid.
Surrey.
That, the whole thing was so weird when you think about it back then.
Yeah.
And then they met, like, backstage at like a TV.
show and they're both Australian
and um
they're cute together
yeah I mean they have similar hair
like she wears a lot of wigs now
you know like that's the thing like every
every show is a wig
and then he's got his highlights
and
they start to merge into looking like a similar person
yeah they do yeah
yeah but whatever you know
how old is she now she
mid 50s she's got to be
yeah she's got to be I mean she looks amazing
and her body is incredible
and but I mean I remember this movie
the baby girl where she was just like
what?
What are you talking about?
You're mine.
You're mine.
And it was just like,
it was just so weird
that it could have been
it could have been kind of good
but I mean
I haven't seen it.
Honestly, if it pops up
just watch it.
Watch it.
It is weird and it is like
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It is New York City.
It is fancy apartments.
Nice.
Like if I get enough of that,
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I don't know then Aaron
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the worst ex-husband ever
Aaron is
saying asking the judge
I need 150,000 ASAP
she has locked me out of the accounts
and I need this money
with my family
that have been like gross hoarders
in her place
remember he's
show the video of how bad the house
was. That totally backfired on him. And he's like, look at her makeup
table. I'm like, she
hasn't lived there for four years. Why don't you
throw it in a box and like, clean
it? There's four of you
not working. And you're blaming
her for the mess at the house when she's not living there.
Well, she has to take, you know, selfies of her
asshole and you expect to get
money of that? No. What is that only
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like, do you see puss?
I think she does full nude puss
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sure okay and and then you know and then they write you bad they write the people and you know
yeah response so i think she does fine um but god i mean but then i can say if i was his
divorce attorney i'd be like you've on the show you said he helps with the content
on only fans he's there so it's like if he helped build that monthly
subscription then is he entitled to half of it but i feel like still i mean i yeah but i mean it's
still it's not like my argument then as her attorney would be like yeah but it's her and it's
it's fresh content and it's like her body and her personality yeah it's not like the two of you
sat down and wrote gray's anatomy together and now you're getting divorced yeah and she's like no you
don't get any of Gray's Anatomy syndication.
No, it's like, it's still just hurt.
What was he doing?
Like, holding the camera?
He wasn't having sex with her on it.
No, no.
No, I think he was just, yeah, like probably helping.
Maybe he was one of the people writing back the people.
I don't know.
Oh, okay.
Wow.
Interesting.
I don't know.
Okay, now let's talk about Taylor Swift.
I'm going to lose my mind.
Okay, so you are a Swifty expert.
I, of course, know that she's engaged.
Like her top songs.
I have nothing against her.
I think she's super talented and a great writer.
I think it's great that there's little girls all over,
that there's daddy-daughter dancers at country clubs
where they have a Taylor Swift in-person area.
I'm all for it.
I am not an expert.
I don't understand Easter eggs.
I don't understand history.
So let's get into the album.
Okay, so the album came out last,
let's say Thursday night.
It dropped at like 9 p.m.
Then on Friday was the movie, so to launch the album, right?
Okay.
Which basically was behind the scenes of the making of the music video,
the fate of Ophelia, which came out today.
Like the actual national release on YouTube, right?
Okay, wait, so you went to the movie.
You went to the movie, right?
By yourself.
Wait, no, it was like three or four of us.
And who else was in the theater?
What was the demographic in the theater?
Girls, girls, a few guys.
Okay.
They were dressed in their eras tour outfits and stuff at that.
They're all having a good time.
And it's like a fun experience because, like, you're all there for the same person and you're all like, you know, like, you know, it's fun.
It's kind of like an era's tour thing again.
And I saw that concert three times.
Okay.
It was amazing.
And so we're there, like, they play the video and then, you know, it's her like kind of directing the music video.
It's like making the MTV making the music video, basically, right?
In between each, like, part of the video, she plays like a lyrical video of the next song.
Okay.
You take you through the whole song, the inspiration for her, the Charlie X, X, X, X,
of it like actually romantic that song
So okay let's talk about Charlie XX
Okay I need to ask about this
Because I did my
A little bit of research
So Charlie XX XX
Open for her
Yes
Then she went on to do an interview and said
I didn't love it
I felt like I was entertaining five-year-olds
I was performing for five rules
Which then the Swifties don't like that
No because they're like we're eight
Leave us alone
Okay we're in third grade
Stop it
And so but
No, so you never piss on an audience.
And so what is the going back?
Are they friends? Are they not friends?
I don't think they are, because that song,
she thinks that, like, Charlie kind of goes out of her way
to kind of make fun of her, and then she's like,
oh, well, it's actually romantic, like, keep talking about me.
Like, all the time they're spending on me,
it's like, that's what the song is about.
Okay.
So when you like are listening to the song for the first time,
are you able to be like, oh, this is what this means
and this is what they, I mean,
No, the TikTokers do that, and I see that.
I do not go down that kind of.
And do those people, like, print it out and then, like, try to...
Oh, totally.
Do the connect the dots?
It seems like a lot.
She had, like, 12 doors, orange doors opening around the world.
They all had keyword codes that, like, revealed, like, letters and stuff.
Like, for, I don't know what that was for.
People had to fly around the world to go to each door?
The fans were, like, you know, there was, like, people were at the fucking Grove on Sunday morning looking for this orange door.
Oh.
Because she said, like, Beverly Grove, Santa Monica was one, too.
I was, I don't know.
It sounds like she puts people through kind of a lot.
Oh, it's exhausting.
So the album came out, right?
Yeah.
It's underwhelming.
Okay.
It is.
And everybody bought like seven or eight vinals.
I think I have four fucking vinals coming today.
Why?
Because she brings out all these different versions.
The problem with the album is.
Yes.
This is the major issue with it.
Okay.
The product doesn't match the marketing.
Okay.
The marketing, you all saw it.
The showgirl, the feather.
the chains, the thing.
I was like, this is great.
It's going to be like jazz, burlesque, Vegas.
It's going to be all that kind of stuff, right?
Can't fucking wait to hear this album.
The album literally is none of that.
It's not one song is like that at all.
It's not representing burlesque, lits, glamour.
It's like a regular album.
It feels like an album of bonus tracks to me.
Okay.
And you can't defend it.
And like you have the major Swifties like on TikTok and stuff like that.
Like trying to defend it to like the cows come home.
But it's like it's an underwhelming album.
The song one and song 12 are decent
Like I like those two songs
That's about it
The rest is just I'm just like whatever
I'm those violence are going straight on eBay
When I get them
I you know
Don't ever really go through
And listen to a whole new album
Like so I'll hear the
Oh you know
I still listen to like regular radio sometimes
So I'll be like oh
You know Kiss FM
Oh this must be a new song from Taylor
Sure yeah
Like whatever
And so I
I wouldn't even know
if I could say I love something or not
because I feel like I'm that person
that has to hear something a few times
to go, oh, I like this song, it's a hit.
How could someone just hear
one song and go, I don't like that song?
Like, how could that even be?
It's because you're just, you have an expectation with her
because our last few albums have been like unbelievable.
Like just the writing, the lyrics, the storytelling.
It's great, right?
this is just
it's kind of immature
the lyrics are
it's kind of mean
it's kind of bitchy
like the
the canceled songs about
like she likes her friends
that get canceled
so she likes these brats
like the Blake Lively's
and all that kind of stuff
she's kind of defending them
in this song
oh so you think that
that was a like
so there's not a negative thing
about Blake
not a negative towards Blake
everybody thought that
yeah
yeah
and what about the fact
that she had said
I'm like I read like she
that she was worried about this album
because she all her other albums
were that she was you know miserable
boyfriend was bad or
sad now she has a
lifetime partner that's nice
so do you think that's why it's not as good
I think so and then she has a song called
Wood which is about his dick
I'm like I don't need to hear that
do you think that's what it's about
it's definitely about yeah
I heard someone else say no it's about
knocking on wood like I don't have to worry about jinxing this love
no it's like wood opens my legs my thighs she says
oh yeah it's like and then it's like apparently I read this morning
it's two minutes and 30 seconds which is 23 centimeters which is nine inches
that's another I'm like that you have to do math like that oh yeah she's into
numerology and stuff like someone
of Kelsey did that I don't want to hear that song what about
wasn't there something like Jackson five song as well
when you listen to it wait you mean old Jackson 5
like Michael Jackson's band from when he was five?
One, two, three, that song, whatever it is, yeah.
Oh, it sounds like she sampled that?
Yeah, it's definitely a sample from it.
And that's the other thing I always, like, do you get permission from the Jackson fives before you do it?
Or do you wait to be con and then pay?
I don't know.
Listen to it and you'll know.
And then what was the, go ahead.
Then she has a George Michael kind of reference in there too, and she had to ask the George Michael estate for this song called Father Figger.
Oh, I will be.
But the song doesn't sound
Anything like it.
I don't get the reference.
Is that a shout-out to call her daddy?
I don't know.
I'm your founding father.
So it's just
the problem,
and then she's dropping more acoustic versions.
It's just very capitalistic.
It's very like,
I feel like she's just taking advantage
of the fans.
And the funny thing about it is
I feel like
it was almost like an expectation
for fans to buy all these fucking vinals
before even one song was released.
She should have released this song.
I released.
deep down feel like... When people buy the vinyl,
do all these little kits have an actual
record player in their house? So they're major
collector's items. Oh, okay.
I bought four. I have four
coming. They're going straight on eBay. Like, I just don't think the
album's, like, worth it. Like, for me...
I got, like, FOMO, and I was just like...
Like, just buying them. When you do these countdown
drops, I was like, should I get them? I'm like, oh, fuck.
And then it's like, you know, and then you're like, oh, fuck have four
vinals coming. She's released nine,
eight vinals. There's eight versions.
They're all the same. And then
when you get the vinyl, do you actually
like put it on? I have a final pair, yeah.
And you like to just like... It's fun.
It's like... Yeah, you feel like...
You feel like you're like an episode of Madman, like just...
Yeah. I love it.
It sounds a bit crisper and like the crackling is kind of cute.
Yeah. Oh, kind of brings you back to that olden days.
Okay, and so what about
Travis Kelsey's ex-girlfriend?
There was some reference to her.
Wasn't there or no?
I've been seen a few things pop up, but I don't know what it was a...
Like, did she say something?
I can't imagine. I think someone misanaly. I think someone misanaly.
that. I can't believe that she would give
anything to like an X
of his. Yeah, so I don't believe that one.
Okay, well, do you think this is going to bum her out
or do you think she's not going to care? She's going to be fine.
She's going to sell out. This is what, Travis
Kelsey begs ex, get off your phone and reservice video
after Taylor's. Oh, it's opalip.
Opalite. This is about this girl
a little bit? No, I don't think it is. Like, she said
opalite was the thing, her and her mom, like,
opalite the color or something like I don't know
I don't think it's about her
okay yeah that's cute
see there's like easter eggs and references
like he's a photograph right there in the top of the
in the music video
as a woman
no wait like photograph of
Travis is a mirror of
yeah in the music video yeah
oh god these are
this is so much work
and it was October 3rd the day that album came out
was when that was uploaded
or something that's from an old TV show a dating
show heaves on or something like that, wasn't he?
God, how does she even
want it to do all these connections?
She has a team that probably puts
all them together and stuff like that.
Like there was a thing where, like, this was kind
of cool. In the back of the, you know,
the album, whatever, you have like the listing
of all the tracks, right? Yeah. And they were kind of
like one, two, three, four, five. So when you
brought them all together centered, it actually
mapped out the Ares Tour stage.
Which was kind of like, I know, it's insane, but it was kind of,
that was an Easter egg. I know.
It's just like...
I mean, without TikTok...
It's fun to a point.
Like, could...
Like, this is like...
I mean, this is like more conspiracy theories and like...
But she's going to drop more tracks now as well.
She has these bold tracks from reputation that she has to drop.
Okay.
And so I'm like, can you please drop those?
Because I can't deal with this album.
Like, I need something like...
Like, already I'm sick of it.
All right. That's a lot.
But thank you for telling us.
Now, Real House I suppose, see, had one of the most fun moments in this latest episode.
for me. Okay. Okay. And that was when
Gina
allegedly pissed off, not allegedly, but she
pissed off Heather Dubrow because
she was like, why would you say, okay, so I guess
behind Heather's back, they were like, why is Heather
trying to be a comedian and taking
classes at the groundlings? I've talked about the
groundlings. I went through the whole program. I was in the
Sunday show in my 20s. And
she has also gone on interviews and said
I'm living in my Century City
penthouse and I go down
and I go and take these comedy
classes because I'm trying to reinvent
myself or whatever.
And
Gina
who in my opinion
is doing, trying
to be a comedian on her TikTok
doing lots of funny things or whatever
had the audacity to be like I don't think
of you as like a funny person
and then
Heather's like
do you not realize?
I realize that I was a sitcom actress.
Do you know that sitcom stands for situational comedy?
I'm hilarious.
And it was just like, she's like, okay, I'm sorry, fine.
And I just thought that that was, you know, so, and I will say Heather did book a lot of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
She, you know, whether the pilot went or didn't go, it's huge to book a pilot.
Whether the show only lasted one or two seasons, that's huge.
huge. She definitely
was working before she moved
to O.C. and started having babies.
Yeah. But then when she's like, I'm trying
to re-invite, I'm like, okay,
when the show started, your youngest
was like one and a half.
And now that child is like, whatever,
14. So
you act like you
gave up acting. You
didn't. You've been in front of the TV
even doing. There was
only like six years maybe
where like you kind of probably
were not running back and forth. She does say like I gave
it up to go raise family and stuff
with that right, but she was always kind of doing it anyway
right? Yeah, maybe there was like six or seven years
between the three pregnancies
because there's twins that like
yeah, maybe you weren't going
out for pilot season. Yeah. But it wasn't
like, you know, and
so anyway, I just thought
I thought that was great and they're like, oh god
you know, and then my other favorite part
was Tamara's
no tears, tears.
It was so funny.
I was laughing
She was like
She was like
And then Emily's like
I don't trust you
Can I have an espresso martini?
Why would I trust you
If I tell you something
And then you get pissed at me
And then you're going to use it against me
How could you
Why would you think I'd ever do that?
It's like
What?
You have been holding things over people's head
I mean
All you need to do is watch
one of my favorite real housewives reunions
when she's fighting with Vicky
Vicky is currently married to Dawn I think
and she's like
when we were in combo you woke me up
and said I just woke up with a naked guy
next to me in bed
and Vicki's like
I've never had multiple partners in my life
and I'm like that
girls
watch that
that's not a friend
you don't hold you don't hold
You don't like have something on somebody
and then throw a grenade on TV.
Like the fact that Vicky ever trusted her
went on tours with a Trace Amigos ever again.
Like it doesn't matter how mad you were.
Like you just should have, but I don't know what was said.
I don't know if she was throwing a grenade before to Tamara.
I don't know.
They take all these breadcrumbs, all the housewives give them
and they keep them like in their head
for whenever they need to bring them out.
I'd feel like
yeah, grenades, you know what I mean?
Because that's all you got, you know,
when you're on that show to protect yourself.
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I mean, it's so scary.
Like, yeah, so I agree.
You shouldn't, you shouldn't have nights of, you know, sharing stuff.
I think, like, Tamara shouldn't take it, like, too personally as well.
Because it's like, I think the girls are just trying to protect themselves from, from anybody.
Like, anything can come up from anybody that holds it.
So it's like, hey, I don't really want to tell you kind of this, this, because you might throw it at me, like in a later date if we get into a massive fight.
Yeah.
Like, it's, you know, like.
Yeah.
She's like doing it.
I'd be like, if I was time wrong, I'd be like, okay, I kind of fucking get it.
Like, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I think she does.
But I think she just like decided to like do the fake tears.
I mean, it was just, and she was like, you didn't defend me.
You didn't defend me.
And you don't trust me.
And Heather's just like.
Heather was like, oh my God, what now?
I'm trying to get into level two of groundlings, okay?
Like, I've got a lot on my plate.
I have a, I'm almost an empty nestor, which he's been saying for the last five years.
Again, your child is only 14.
You're not an empty nester.
He's the youngest child 14.
I think.
And then she was just like, yeah, because then you, and then she's like, I'm done, I'm done.
You'll ever see my face again?
And it'd be like, oh my God.
She went up to stairs twice, didn't she can come back down.
She did.
And they were like, well, should we clean up these cakes?
Like, I mean, it was just.
And then Shannon's just sitting back like, you know, what am I going to do?
I think Emily blocked me.
Why?
I don't know.
oh go over there make her
espresso martini with Shane
I'm an attorney
but yeah I don't know why
I think you know we always talk about
the show and stuff
so some of them don't like it
when you kind of make fun of them
like this you know well let's talk about
you are you and Katie
are asshole buddies you are best
friends like whatever
it's like
and so
she's back this week
okay
I guess she's she is stuff to reveal
because she goes to
lunch with Tamara.
With Tamara, yeah.
Emily wasn't happy about that.
So we'll see what happens this week.
Why would you go out to...
She filmed this one without my knowledge.
That is a criminal offense.
I know.
And then she, you know, said this one was a racist
about the Asian designers.
She never actually said the word racist, though.
I think it was the word used.
I really feel that was just her...
But do you remember, like Gretchen posted the thing with Jen,
though the karate kung fu thing
and they pulled I mean that was fucking bad
though like I mean that's why they pulled
it though I know another part of that is that
a lot of these people
like you know they spend their money on glam
but they also have some people helping them
do these videos yeah and
sure yeah yeah yeah and then all of a sudden something gets
put out and you're like oh my god I didn't think of it that way
I really just thought of like karate
moves well they pulled it down so
I mean yeah it's like okay I just
feel and I also feel like with Gina
she was just like
I thought you said you were only using Asian design
is this Prada and Balenciaga and it's just like a little
diss to be like you just want to you like whatever
it's just a weird thing for Gene's even say in a way like you know what I mean
it was kind of like I mean every little that's what's also hard is that this is a
reality show and it's like if you're just talking and living in the moment if
everything is going to be analyzed like a Taylor Swift album and that oh this really
means this because this and then on this date if we switch it around
it's actually an upside three
which means that you are like
I mean come on
I know but the thing
but it is like
tell me if you agree with this
like I just feel like
you know these shows right
no matter what is Jersey
any of them right
they all get really deep
they dig deep
and they can get pretty fucking rough
right whatever
but like
the fact that like
you know
the Katie was like not going
on the Amsterdam trip
or like not like
or whatever was said
like oh there's not a place for you here
or like or together
It's like, no, I think Alibaskin should have been like, no, bitches, buck the fuck up, this is the show, get on with it.
You're all in this together.
But I do think that they kind of came together.
This is what I think happened.
I think they came together and we're like, well, we're not going to film because we don't.
Yeah, but like you can't force.
It's not like, no, we wrote a scene for you.
I mean, if it's really reality and they are like, I'm not going to.
I think they just caved a bit, though, to it.
You know what I mean?
So anyway, you had the husband on, Katie's husband.
And so what, now, how do you feel about the latest thing, accusation from two T's in a pod,
saying that it was Sheena, that Gretchen told Sheena that Tamara drugged her and therefore I,
Sheena went and told Kiki and then Kiki went around and told everybody that.
And Katie had nothing to do with it, which is not what the original story was.
So I thought that was really bad.
And I'm just like...
It's confusing.
You know what I mean?
Look, I mean, I go by what Katie said on the Vial files or whatever,
and she was like, they were like...
I think Nick asked her like, look, if there was a hill you were to die on,
and she's like, I will die on that hill that I did not tell Kiki.
Kiki knew that information.
So she says Kiki met at the lunch.
They met for lunch, lunch, which she admitted.
This is the other thing.
There was another person that went to the lunch, right?
wasn't it Kiki and a friend?
Oh, I don't know.
Well, I'm just like, just bring the friend in.
I don't think there was another friend, wasn't it?
Maybe there was. I thought there was another friend.
I think it was just Katie and her, I thought.
Oh, well.
So, and I think that's like, I think that Kiki knew about it.
I just feel like everybody knows this story.
I think Gretchen probably told like a bunch of people in the O.C.
And all that stuff.
Like, it got around, right?
I think all these girls talked.
Okay, I don't think so.
I don't tell you why.
Why?
Because she spent the night at her house.
She says it in the show and I confirmed it.
Sure, yeah.
No, she says that.
I thought maybe she didn't spend the night.
Maybe they just put it.
So if you spent the night and everyone was there and it's on the show saying she's spending the night, then the story of saying I went to the hospital that night.
No, the next day, she said.
Still, I don't think that that would make sense.
Why did she say it then?
I don't think she ever said it.
We saw it on the camera in the back of the car.
She said to Tamara
I went to the hospital next morning
I mean I should have
That's what she said
Not in the scene
She said I wasn't feeling good
I went to the hospital next morning
She said her go back and watch it
And then Tamara said she said it twice
But the other part
The other time she said it she wasn't on camera
I just think it's so weird that it was
Made such a big deal
True yeah
Because I'd be like all right
Whatever
Like yeah that wasn't cool what we did
You got really sick
Like, I just, that's why I'm like, and then it was just like, well, now you're lying and I'm like, well, what happened that night was just horrible.
So I don't know.
If they said it at like the maestro's thing and she said it, big deal.
Yeah.
And she could have just been like, look, Tamara, I did say the maestores.
We're talking.
We're like reminiscing about.
She's saying, she's saying I misspoke, but people don't want to believe that.
So it gets real ugly with the boy band singer that she supposedly, Tamara supposedly did something with.
and so they're bleeping out his name,
so I'm not going to say it.
And then they find out that Jen had followed him
and she's like, look, you followed him.
Why wouldn't you?
Wouldn't you kind of want to know?
Like, what's the deal with this person?
Jen, like, turned it on Tamara.
She was like, see, this is the problem with you, Tamara.
Tamara's like, you're the one that fucking followed him.
Like, what do you follow him?
Why did she have to follow him?
Even Heather was like, why the fuck did you follow him?
Because she said I was hoping that maybe he'd reach out
and I'd get the scoop.
Just send him a DM.
Listen, if we want to know the truth of who's lying, Tamara, did she do something sexual with this guy?
Or is Gretchen exaggerating what was heard?
Well, just tell me the truth.
And maybe she was like, yeah, maybe I'll start DMing with this guy and he'll go, look, my girlfriend and I at the time were on a break.
Yeah, we messed around.
Why did you say that day?
But also, I think even if they did, she wasn't married to Eddie yet.
She wasn't even engaged to Eddie yet.
So I don't even think even if it happened, it's a big crime.
this.
Yeah, like, I don't think it's like a big crime.
But it is, it is fun to watch.
It is fun.
So now Alexis Bellino got married to John Jansen, he was the, the long-suffering boyfriend
of Shannon Bador for three years.
And look, they got a people exclusive, good for them.
Yeah.
Look to be really beautiful.
They had all their kids there, which I also think says something that all your kids show
up when you both have been divorced
and, you know, obviously they
like either one of them, which is nice.
And, you know, Tamara was there
kicking up her heels. And
you know, people are like, well,
and then the argument would be like,
yeah, but she and
Alexis kind of been like close for
like two years.
And she's not close to Shannon. But you wonder
why she's not close to Shannon. I mean,
Shannon would be like, really? Like,
you don't have to be mean to her, but do you have to be mean to her,
but do you have to like, you know,
just finally get every photo and like, you know,
like dancing at the wedding, like celebrating their love?
Like, do you really have to like celebrate?
Like, I get it.
And that's why it's going to be really hard for Shannon and Tamara to come back.
They're never going to.
They're never going to.
Listen.
I thought, I think that really, when you look at that,
their friendship and so forth,
I always feel like Vicky was the one that kind of kept them all together.
Like she was kind of like the, the little.
Yeah.
That kind of was kind of the in-between person of the two of them.
That's why they didn't kill them.
each other. When all three of them were together,
it worked.
We're the Trace of Meegas.
Oh my God.
Did you see that show?
You know what I want? I want,
you know, there's so many documentaries.
I don't want the documentary of how
the heiress tour was pulled.
I want to know the behind
the scenes of coming up with
the Trace Amigas. I want to see
all of that. I want to see them sit down and go,
are we really doing this?
Yeah. Doing the talk.
Did you see it?
It was my idea.
No, please tell me.
Oh, it was amazing.
It just was like awkward.
They were like this and one person's arm is down here.
Like, it's totally out of sync.
They're not in the same pace of the stage.
It was just a fucking train wreck.
But it was like, you know, it's like, it's like going to see Luann.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's a night out.
You go drink.
Watch yourself, darling.
I am like, have a racist.
I have a musical ear.
We should go see her again.
She's coming in like a week or two, I think, next week.
No, I think it's next weekend.
Is it the next weekend.
Yeah, it's a smaller show.
It's not the big singing.
It's like a Q&A thing.
Oh, okay.
I'm sure she'll sing a couple songs.
As long as the bongos are there.
I'm for it.
Just out of sync.
Just not even into the beat.
So good.
Good for her, though.
What's this year five of doing it?
I mean, yeah, she keeps going.
And yeah, because it's like, I think the music is makes it fun.
Like, you know, kind of.
But, yes, I want to know.
how that all came about
I want to know how they planned it out
I want to know everything
because it was just
I was like
But yeah they were there
It was after the DUI
Shannonette
Then she's having shots
Well no
It was after the DUI
That then Tamara's like
I'm out of
I don't want to do it anymore
Because it's kind of low
And then they did
The Dosamigos
And now it's just gonna be
Shannon Amigo
Because
it seems like
Vicky
is really wanting to get back
On Housewives
She will be back
Yeah, Alexis on the show and maybe the 20th.
And so she's like, screw it.
I don't hear from Shannon.
Like, I'm jumping over to this.
I just like I said, like it's like the Titanic.
Yeah.
And there's two boats.
And, you know, people are deciding where they should go.
And right now in one, it's Tamara, Katie, Alexis.
Joe De LaRosa just hopped in.
Yeah.
And then maybe Vicky.
and so they're like, look, we have a cast right here.
In the other boat is Emily, Gina, and Shannon.
And Heather has airlifted herself from a helicopter and gone to the ground.
I think Heather's just like not going to come back next.
I'd love to see Heather on Beverly Hills.
Yeah, I think that's what might happen.
I have never been bored by a Heather Dubrow scene.
No, she's good.
She's entertaining, yeah.
She's totally entertaining.
She's great.
She's smart.
Like, so to me, comedian or not, like, yeah, no, but she.
But sitcom acting isn't being a stand-up.
And then she's like, do you know that I did stand-up?
Well, doing stand-up is not being a stand-up.
But she was always very nice, came to my show,
and understands what it is.
So I could see why she was defending herself.
And she's had a great career, and she is fun to watch.
I don't want to see her.
If she leaves OC-fine, just put her on something else.
I think she should be on Beverly Hills.
I think she should be great on Beverly Hills.
Yeah, yeah.
She's kind of like, that's that kind of level, I feel like,
she's at. I think she's bored at O.C.
Yeah. I bet. You know?
And it would be good. It would be good. I think it would be good.
So anyway, they had a nice wedding. So, oh, this, I just wanted to get your opinion.
I just, this is just some random person's thing that came across. These were the bridesmaid's
outfits. And they're a pants suit with like a white pantsuit at the waist. And these
girls are thin. This is just a
very unflattering. Like everyone
looks like they have a pooch. It's like
and I just
I don't like they're trying to modernize
this now. I mean it's too like
it's like they all work in a corporate
office like it's isn't it? It's just
not a flattering look and I feel like
it's kind of mature for all these like
20 something girls. But then don't the bridesmaids
hate the dresses so maybe this was like an option?
I don't know. You'll never
make these bitches happy. But okay
Cardi B.
And our...
Dear Papa, Park.
Okay, so wait. So wait.
I'm going to do Nikki Minaj's first.
So they have been fighting, Nikki and Kribee.
And Nikki wrote, Dear Culture, that's one of Cardi B's kids.
Okay.
Truth is, I did all of this for a bigger purpose, and one day you'll understand.
You're a cute child, and lots of kids have cute little funny-looking gums before they grow into their features.
What?
One day you'll see this.
So I have to say I apologize.
As a child of God and queen of my community, who look to me for integrity, you're an innocent
child and I don't deserve any of this.
And you don't, and don't deserve any of this.
One day your mother, aunt, and many more will be brought to their knees for what they
said and tried to do to my young prophet, beautiful boy.
Take care of my darling.
This isn't who I am.
Now, I don't know who wrote what first, but now I will read you Cardi B's.
Dear Papa Perk.
That's the son of Nikki Minaj.
I believe.
Okay.
I'm sorry that your mommy haven't cut you a birthday cake for the past three days
because she can't take my success or happiness.
One day you going to grow up and I hope you understand when a girl says no, it means no.
And you can overcome the petopelia blood you inherited from your grandfather, father, and uncle.
please don't hate me when you grow up
because your mommy rather
give me more attention than she gives you
hopefully when somebody that really cares about her
puts her in rehab
and get her the help she needs
she come out and read you a book
I was just
I just was checking to see that this
TMZ wrote this because I've been pre-printed this
because I started to read it
that's why I kind of lost track
because I was like wait
is this real?
Or did someone do a parody?
Because you thought
Don Guttall said
parody was real.
I did.
Oh my God.
So there was a thing,
I was just like,
Don Gullsen,
somebody did a screenshot thing
and they put their own words
in like it was his Twitter account
or whatever it was, right?
Making a comment saying like
during the wedding.
During the wedding of Alexis.
Archie hide Shannon's keys.
I was like,
I said it to Heather.
I said, Heather,
this is really mean.
and there's like
that's a really funny account
I'm like oh shit
yeah
the Don Gunvelson
Twitter X account
it's a parody
and they put
for a long time
they didn't put parody
next to it
but
people always
people sometimes thought
it was him
it wasn't
whoever it is
I think all this time
I thought he was tweeting
I literally thought
the whole fucking time
I'm like he's really funny
he's like a bit of a smart ass
this is really
Cardi B and Nikki
and
And, you know, these women, we are almost there with the housewives, but they are real low.
They are real, real low.
And that's what Cardi B said.
She goes, when they go low, I take them to hell.
Yeah.
So there you go.
There you go.
Okay, real housewives of Miami had a shocker moment.
So this is a photo from Bravo TV of everyone's face.
At the end of part one.
Now, you know, I talked to, Stu, he hasn't really.
been watching. I've been like half
covering it. I did have Stephanie
the new girl on.
I still like it
because again, it's beautiful outfits.
It's a beautiful city.
So I'm just going to explain
what is juicy and you don't need to be
watching it to know. Julia
who's not featured in this photo
because she was
talking here she is Julia.
Okay great. Yes.
Says
she has been at odds
with this girl Adriana. Now
Adriana was one of the original real housewives of Miami before they took a break for seven years.
And she's divorced a couple times, has like a grown son.
And she's 59 years old, but her face left is very good, and she looks very young.
And she, too, is trying to be a singer.
And Julia also decided she that her wife, the famous tennis player, Martina, say her last name.
Navratilova.
Okay.
is
told her she liked opera once
so Julia started to do opera
which is some of the most
painful housewife singing scenes
ever and she's like
everyone I have a great
and she's I don't know where Julia's from
but she has an accent like an Eastern European accent
and she's like I'm so excited to sing opera
so I walk
to the park
to say you and
Martina who is
Does she make appearances on us?
Oh yeah
And she is about the most humorless
Like I don't think she's ever laughed
Or cracked a smile
No
And she's 68
Bitter
Hardcore
Hardcore lesbian
Oh yeah
Incredible you know
One of the greatest tennis players
And whenever someone's trying to like charm her
Like oh my God
My husband's such a big fan of yours
Criers
Like she's just
Why she's on this show
clearly like and Julia has had been married and had you know other men then became a lesbian
came out whatever just couldn't resist Martina okay couldn't resist Martina and they are a couple
and then she wanted to have children because she wanted to have more children and so she couldn't
but they adopted these two boys that are like the boys so choice says the boys adopted the two boys
which are like one and a half and three.
And throughout this time,
Adriana just felt like Julia wasn't being her good friend.
And she's pissed because Julia,
this is what always happens,
is the one, I mean,
Adriana is the one that got Julia on the show.
Okay.
They were friends before.
She got her on the show,
just like Lisa Barlow got Bronwyn on the show,
and then you fuck me over,
and I'm like, yeah, I hate you.
Yeah.
So anyway, she, so she's like, well, what, like, why are you guys, like, getting along?
And Adriana's just like, I just feel like she's gone to the dark side.
She's hanging out with Alexei and Marisol, these two other girls that she doesn't like.
And then Julia goes, Andy, there's something I need to tell you that will give the clarification.
When we were in the Hamptons, Adriana and I slept together.
And everyone's like, so.
Okay. So that's the cliffhanger. I'm like, what are we going to see this week? Is it going to be her saying it's not true? Or I woke up and you were going down on me and I just enjoyed it. I wasn't, I wasn't an active participant. I thought it was just a, you know, a massage that went too far. We started with tickleback and it got into something else. I don't know. But I'm like, why would she tell on herself?
like she's married
I know
to this woman
but then
and then some people think
Martina's gonna beat her
with a tennis racket
you know
her own daughters
aren't happy
that she adopted
these kids
some people feel like
you know
now this is
you know
just rumors
whatever
or what
like do they
have these kids
so late in life
Martinez 68
and her
so that they
you know
she has a bigger
part of
Martina's life
like money
child support, whatever it is, forever, because these kids are little.
So it's a weird thing.
And then to then expose this thing about your marriage, I think, is so cruel to Martina.
Maybe she'll say, Martina said tell.
Maybe Martina doesn't care.
Maybe they have an open relationship.
Sure.
But you just adopted these kids.
And I'm like, and there is a relative of these kids, I'm assuming, that are watching their kids be on this show.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's just, I don't know.
It was like unnecessary for her to say.
So, I mean, this is, so, you know, people are saying.
What was Adriana's face like when she said it?
She was like, no, she was kind of like, like, I think she, it's something happened.
My personal opinion is some shit happened, but it wasn't taken seriously.
Because they were like, and then you tried to, she's like, you know, and then it, she goes,
it happened once Andy in the Hamptons and then in the Versace mansion.
They stayed in the Versace, Versace mansion one night.
So, yeah, I mean.
I guess, you know, he's probably fooled around with girls and was just drunk and horny and was like, whatever.
And I don't know.
I don't know.
So this week now we see what happens.
I've never had lesbian anything.
No.
I once had a lesbian town when I was very young that the old lesbian would ever like me.
And then I don't have to ever worry that I gave off the most non-lesbian vibes.
And I was like, all right, whatever.
but
all right
whatever
I don't know
but I was thinking
by God
this you know
the show just keeps
upping the ante
if we're not exposing
someone's like
failed businesses
we're like
this is
but this isn't the first
lesbian thing
yeah
the first
the pioneers of lesbians
on the housewives
was
brandy glanville
and Denise
and saying about Denise
which Denise
always denied
which now
Denise's husband
is also supposedly
going to bring Brandy Glanville
to be subpoenaed and Charlie
her ex-Charlie Sheen.
Didn't somebody recently say was it on
Oh yeah, it was it Tamara?
I'm watching What Happens Live?
That she said that, oh, Denise Richards hit on me once or something.
What housewife said that?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Was that recently?
Yeah.
I think it was Tamara, wasn't it that said that?
I can't remember.
It was one housewap said that.
I think that did happen.
Do you think that happened?
Well, also, Tameram,
made out with Bronwyn and she made out with that you remember way back when there was like a
Brazilian girl that was a lesbian that Tamara brought on yes and they were like messing around and
making out yeah she's I think a lot of girls you know throughout their life whether it was like
a threesome for fun to impress a guy or they actually were really into it like I always thought
Kyle it wasn't her for I don't think Morgan Wade was her first time to you know
Probably not.
Cisoring.
I think like she was,
or whatever you want to call it.
Like I think she probably brought,
probably did some fun shit with Mauricio.
Yeah.
And like kind of was like,
oh,
I kind of like this.
Sure.
And like for some women,
it's just like,
oh, I just,
I'm super open sexual.
Like,
what do I care?
Like if the guy doesn't care,
I mean,
it's totally different than,
you know,
your husband being like,
I wanted to bring the gardener in,
you know,
you're like,
no.
Like,
I think I saw Maricio
last Thursday night
in Beverly Hills,
walking down the street with the woman.
Another woman.
I don't know who he's dating now or anything like that.
He's always going to date someone.
I was leaving to stay 48 and they were like walking by and stuff.
All right, yeah.
I know.
I always see, I've seen him out with different girls too.
So, yeah, that's, who knows when they'll ever get divorced.
So there you go.
Julia says that, so then she said,
Julia says that Adriana held their affair overhead as blackmail,
being like, if you don't do this,
if you don't have my back at this place.
that I'm going to expose that we slept together.
So she...
Makes sense now why she said it.
Yeah.
So now she's like, yeah.
So I kind of see...
It'll be interesting because, like, yeah,
will Adriana stay on the show?
Will Julia stay on the show?
Like, what will happen?
How will they resolve this?
They can't, like, be hanging out together
knowing that they, like, were sexual.
And then Portia Williams,
according to page six,
revealed that she is dating a woman.
woman after divorcing her narcissist's husband, Simon.
She said, I've narrowed it down to two people.
One is a man and one is a woman who I'm dating right now.
Oh.
I think they just get tired of these men.
I know.
And they're just like, you know what?
I can't deal with another fucking asshole.
I'm just going to go to a woman.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Do you ever feel like that?
No.
Do you know what?
These days you'd never know.
I just am so tired of the dating scene.
I really am.
What if you just became a late in life straight?
Yeah.
Probably easier, right?
But then I can't deal with some women.
They're just, like, exhausting as well.
Yeah.
But then if I'm kind of like a gay straight man, maybe.
Yeah, I think you are kind of like a gay straight man.
That's funny.
For God.
Okay.
So, Sheena and...
Let's get her off my screen.
You're not a fan of Sheena.
I mean, she...
Tell me what's happening.
Okay, she's...
Look, I have a lot of fondness.
for both Sheena and Lala.
They were very, very good friends,
especially when they both gave birth
to their daughters, who are four.
And so, you know, they were on the show together.
They had each other's back toward the last season.
Some people accused them of kind of not having...
Ariana's back.
Because they were like, you need to do a scene with Tom Sandoval.
You're taking food out of our children's mouth.
The show will die if you don't film with her.
with him and
Ariana's like
like if we're being real
like it's a lot more real
that I wouldn't want to sit down
with this fucker.
Meanwhile I follow Rachel
you know Rachel Rakel
yeah besides doing her sound baths
she is just having a lovely life
she like seriously met some really rich
guy she's going to cute weddings
good for her.
She's just doing sound baths
and just peaceful life and just yeah
I follow her as well
but I mean I just saw these girls like
hired her to like flew her out to do a sound bath and i was like
it is kind of interesting like let's bring like the
the girl who is the ex best friend who fucked her best friend's man for seven months
get our get our sound right get our sound right people get over shit real quick but
anyway good for her you know glad she's not podcasting anymore i'm just kidding okay so so she
so they're going on each other they're going on their own podcast finally saying
why their friendship isn't where it's at.
Okay.
And who started, who threw the first punch, do you think?
Sheena kind of threw the first punch.
Okay.
She said, all I can say is, you know, something where I sent her a care package, a PR package
about my book, and out of all my friends and out of all the people I sent it to, she
didn't post that.
Got it.
I got one.
I posted it, you know.
So I was like, oh.
then Lala was like, all right, enough of this bullshit.
Like, just because I didn't post something in your timeline doesn't mean that I haven't been a great friend for you.
Sure.
I said congratulations on New York Times bestseller list, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And you have so much going for you, but you're never fucking happy.
Okay, fair.
Okay?
So then Sheena had Alex Baskin, the producer of the Valley, come on.
because people are like, oh, you know,
Sheena is not on the Valley.
Everyone thought it was a natural progression
for Sheena and Lala and Tom Sandoval.
Tom Sandoval and Lala have been rumored to possibly be dating.
Tom Sanoval.
Sorry, not Sandoval.
Tom Schwartz.
Wow, and Lala, okay.
Yeah.
And then they did a photo like,
this is a soft watch, so soft it's not real.
I asked her months ago,
no, it's not real.
but that was months ago, so I don't know.
But anyway, so then Lala said,
okay, so then she has Alex come on,
and there was rumors saying that because of everything
that she exposed in her book,
that Bravo's pissed,
and that's why they didn't ask her to come back on the Valley.
Got it.
So then she gets Alex, and she's like,
Alex, was I or was I not asked to be on the Valley?
He's like, we gave, yes, we did offer you something,
and I think it was a compelling offer.
And she's like it was.
But I talked to Paige DeSorbo, who has left Summerhouse, and I just was hearing her.
And she goes, and then I saw a comment.
She goes, it always just takes one comment.
And there was a comment under, like, she made, she was on the valley and, like, brought enchiladas or something, her famous enchiladas.
And someone wrote, Sheena's like the girl in high school who graduated two years ago, who keeps coming back to, like, high school parties.
and she goes
and that did it
that is why
Sheena said
I don't want to film on the valley
and I'm like
who is the bitch that wrote this
like what if you were the person
that wrote this
and you're like
oh my God
so she's like
I just want to do other things
and I had so much fun
being on Lopez versus Lopez
which is a sitcom
and she had a small part
and she's like
just that feeling of that
and I'm like
what now
Okay.
Well, she's taking classes at the growl who just had the
Should we take classes?
I already did the whole program.
I can't go back.
I could.
I got in.
I did it once and I got into the,
I accepted it.
She's like, do you have to, you have to audition?
You do.
You have to audition.
And if you don't, then they go,
oh, you can take these like other classes.
To get through the audition.
But then after that, you've got to go.
Then there's a second thing that each time they say,
either you repeat or you do it or you have to wait.
It can take years to,
you're at the performing level.
But anyway, no, so I kind of was like, okay, Sheena, as I'm doing my walk this weekend,
I was like, okay, one little guest spot on the sitcom, which so few sitcoms are being made.
Every time you open the L.A. Times, it's like Hollywood is dead, like it's a ghost town.
I thank God she has a good relationship with him.
Thank God she said, never say never.
she did say
when Tamara she said
no like I did not start
the rumor of Gretchen
and you know
and then she says that I don't know why Tamara
said it was my dream to be on the OC
she's like I did talk to her
about how I loved living in San Diego
which isn't too far from the OC
and she goes well you should just come on
Tamara said you should just come on the real housewife's
OC and she was like
oh no housewife scare me that's
she does memory of it okay but
Tamara's like it's her dream to be on the real house I was supposed to see and she's kind of you know and so that's it and I'm like I think with this drama with Lala oh then she also said that she did gave a they have a group of moms yeah from the preschool that are fabulous and diverse and you know attractive and all this other stuff and so Sheena gave a bunch of those names to the valley producers and according to sheena Lala
was like, why would you do that?
These are my friends.
I don't want to go to toes,
toe to toe to, whatever,
with these women.
Like, I have to fight with everybody else.
That's what the show is.
And that is what the show is.
It is.
try to say it's something that's not. It's not. It's fighting. It's, you know, it is fighting.
So she was like, no, I don't want to like, I really like these women.
then that was the other thing. And then
the main thing is
Sheena said
that she revealed to Lala
that Brock had
the affair while she was pregnant
and that she put it in her book
but she told Lala that like months before
the book came out to keep
it to herself and Lala
ended up telling
this other girl who's like kind of
on the valley. She's a trainer.
Okay. And found out
And then that girl told Zach
And so she was like
And then from there
She then Lala was like
Okay well I guess you need your space
Because you know you're mad at me
So I'm just not going to do your show
In Salt Lake City
So go ahead and do your show without me
Like she was doing like a tour show
And she was like okay
You know like I should
I do have a right to be mad
Like she felt like it was true
So that's the whole
That's the fight
And it's like
I feels like it was one of
those things that there was a lot of things that was bugging each other about each other and
they weren't addressing it at the time yeah and then it was building building building and then
you put a reality show into it and opportunity and all of this it's crazy though that she didn't
that she wouldn't go on the valley and like refused to go on is that crazy to me i'm guessing that
whatever the offer was was something like like a friend of maybe friend ever like your your day rate is
2,500 show or something, something.
And she kind of was like, well, I, you know, maybe she looked at it and she's like, well, it's, you know, I can live without $30,000 maximum or whatever.
Maybe it wasn't that much.
Maybe it was $10,000 a day.
I don't know.
And I think maybe she just looked at the dollar and was like, I, I'm a New York Times bestselling author now.
I want to try to do other things.
But that's where I'm like, don't let these comments, like these people.
That girl that wrote that or that guy,
they're, like, living their life.
Like, they're like, I don't know.
I think she should have gone on it.
I said away.
And, like, you know.
When these things are going to end
and you don't get ass back again,
and it's over, you know, and it's, I don't know.
And it does keep the, you relevant.
I mean, and that's what you are.
You're a reality person.
And she said the same thing.
You know, Alex, before I started,
I wanted to be an actress.
I was pursuing acting,
and I was booking acting.
I get that.
But now you're a, it's like, now you're a personality.
And no one's going to really see you.
I think it's a very hard thing for people to see you acting in a role.
They need to really put her on Dancing with the Stars and just put it to bed.
I mean, we all want to see it.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Do you think that she will?
Do you think that voter off first?
Just be awful.
I bet she is on next season.
Yeah.
And then I think she goes back on Valley the following year.
Okay.
That's my prediction
But, I mean, they have these houses together
Next door to each other
In Palm Springs
And people are like, that's
That's gonna be so weird
And I'm like, not really
Now if they're dead at the same time
If they're not, they don't have to see each other
They don't have to see each other
I mean like yeah
And but and the little girls
Hopefully can still play and whatever
But it's, so that's the whole story there
And I just feel like
It's a real ashamed
that like it got to this place
like pick up the phone
I know it's just
silliness I hate these grudges and these fights
and stuff like I just
pick up the phone
right under the bridge just move on from that
I was praising
Teresa for cleaning
toilets she had to clean toilets
on special special
but she finally just said
fuck it and she left
she too just like Britney was like
hiking up a hill carrying something heavy
and you know these people are yelling
and I'm like listen
she's fit but she's 55
like it's hard
like it's hard physical work
if you knew you were going on that show
you get yourself into a gym
you get yourself a trainer
I know but at a certain point though
it's like
I need to know
because I know they all get like a chunk of money
and then I don't know if you get more money
each day you stay you should
yeah you probably do
so there's a motivation
and then you should probably get a big chunk
if you win it yeah I would think
but
and then they're
had Gia talking to the
Special Forces guy. I saw that. And that was
really, that is still one of the
greatest moments is when she comes home
from prison and the girls come running.
Like, Gia is,
like, it was interesting to see
Gia recognize, like,
my mom went to prison when
I was 13. It's crazy.
And she, they're such that older,
like the whole thing of being the girl in
Italian family and being the oldest girl in the
Italian family that, like, I hear from
like Italian, you know,
Americans all the time, like, they had to, like, make their brother's bed and stuff.
Like, do all these things where it's just like, like, you are just going to be their maid, which is what I think is like, Teresa, that's the real brief.
Teresa's probably still pissed that she had to make Joe Gorga's bed, like, when they were little.
And she's like, I don't care that you're on the show because I'm going to fucking make up your bed when you were 10 and I was 12.
Make her own bed.
And then they said, so, yeah, so she had to like obviously take care of.
the kids and stuff. And then, I mean,
little Gia, a little girl. Who's that? Is that
Teresa or Gia? No, that's Teresa.
Okay. And then she said, a source
says that Teresa is genuine
in her desire to make amends with
Joe and Melissa at Gorga and says she isn't
desperate to stay. Well, the
only reason that you'd make up with them is
to all be back on TV.
Yeah, but I heard
this as well. Didn't Melissa say,
no, that's not true. There's no, but no, we don't want to do that,
like, whatever it is. Is she,
heard she's getting a spin-off, Teresa is
like she's going to be paired up
with new people, no? I just
don't think, I just don't see how you could
ever trust each other
at this point that
they're truly happy
for you. Yeah. And you would know
that if something bad
happened, that the other
sibling would be dancing for joy.
Yeah. And I think you just
can't deny, like there's no way that's
that's going to change.
So it's like, if you want to do it, you just be like,
hey let's just start from scratch and make some cheddar and do this stupid show again
she just can't like she just can't see what she does wrong like she just can't take responsibility
for you know what I mean it's like it's one of yeah yeah it's always that um anyway I don't know
what's going on with Chrissy yeah Chrissy Balls is so funny and she's on TikTok and she's like
what is going on with David Beckham's face saw this I think he just got a lot of filler
Yeah.
Because it like changed the shape of his eyes.
And that's the thing.
Yeah, Botox on your eyes can make your whole face look different.
Today was this week was Paris Week.
And Heidi Klum went with the sheer naked look.
I mean, can we, that is out, right?
Yeah.
Like, are we done with the baiting suit under.
I don't want to see like this.
Like, look at that.
I don't want to see that.
Like, you are a supermodel.
You're gorgeous.
Like, and it's such an unoriginal look.
Yeah.
Like, to wear.
I hate it when housewives do it
Where they wear the bikini underneath
And like
And then
And then
I can't
And then Megan Markle went
And she would just wore all white
And
I still keep saying
Like I just
There's going to be no more Netflix shows with her
So I guess
I did not see it
But I guess Prince William
Just did an interview
And someone wrote
Like God
You know
You're right Heather
Like why
Why did they let this get so out of hand
because I just think they could have had it all.
Yeah.
They could have been the Royals.
They could have also done some other fun things.
Yeah.
Because she's a California girl.
She could have been like, hey, I want to spend,
just like, you know, a president goes to their ranch in Texas or whatever, like Bush did.
I want to spend the summers in Santa Barbara.
Yeah, yeah.
And I want to do other things.
And I, she could have had her own cooking show or she, like, cooked whatever American food
or English food or whatever
if that's really what she wanted to do
I mean I said when she first did
I was like oh she'll have like an Oprah show in England
like a talk show
like a podcast talk show
that didn't she tried it here
that didn't work then she's like
I'll just cook and make my dried flowers all the time
yeah and then like she did another podcast
is that done now remember the CEO women
she would have CEO women
Oh that's done like they do seasons
I'm like and it's like
and then you listen to the end of the pot
it's like 18 people worked on it
I'm like, what?
Why is there 18 people working on this thing?
This is like, sucks.
Sound editing by so-and-so.
Set direction by da-da-da-da.
Executive producer, I'm like, oh, my God,
you like talk to someone on Zoom
that someone wrote you out questions.
Like, what are you talking about?
No, I don't know.
I mean, she is wearing all white.
At least she's covered up.
And she gets me to go to Paris.
I mean, she's not wearing a sheer outfit.
I least she's covered up.
And I just feel like,
Anyway, Megan, I don't know what I'm going to do with you.
Yeah.
Do you think the dried flowers is a hit?
No, it's not.
What happened to the jam?
I didn't even, well, it was met in Ohio.
It's not met in fucking her backyard in Montecito.
Like, it was made in some factory.
In Ohio or Ohio?
Like in some in the Midwest.
No, the jam is not from fucking Santa Barbara, from like fruit bushes.
No, it's not from the hedges.
No, it's.
Farms in the Midwest, they bottled it and jarred it or whatever.
Yeah.
I didn't even watch the seconds.
I watched like one or two episodes.
I could.
It's beyond.
It's just so bad and terrible.
And then like Chrissy Teigen is on it as well.
And she's even annoyed with her.
Like it's just, do you know what I mean?
It's just like, and it's just so uncomfortable to watch.
And it's like, I feel like they're all terrified of her.
Wait, whatever happened with Chrissy Teagan?
Did she just like, I know I stopped following her or we blocked each other,
Whatever. But like, did she just stop with, like, making her pots and pants and stuff?
Yeah, she did it. She had a really good run. She had, like, three cookbooks out, I think.
And was it all because Courtney Stodden reminded the world that she said, go take a dirt nap?
Oh, yeah. Didn't she? Oh, I don't know. She said something racist. Didn't she or something on Twitter?
No, she was just always making fun of Courtney Stodden as a team bride. And then Courtney Stodden kept bringing it up and reminding everybody.
Did she close them in the Orward?
I think she did all that stuff.
like on Twitter and then she
would write kind of weird
things where people thought it was
like child corn
or whatever like trying to say like
oh I you know
I just watched
toddlers and tiaras and I need to be
locked up or whatever like I
still think that she
again thought she was funny
like Heather Dubrow and she was kind
of like she was really obsessed with Chelsea
and I think she was trying
to do those kind of joke
and I don't think
then they came back to 100 years later
but I know someone's gonna write
you're wrong she did this
I don't know
I just she was thirsty
There was something
There was one specific comment she said
I think that kind of cancelled her
I can't remember what it was
She was just really thirsty
And people were just like
She had a really like hot
Like moment
Like when she did like the Fab Life for a bit
And then she was doing that one
With you know
They're all dancing
And the with Ice Tea
or LL Cool J
What was that?
You know the show
she was hosting this
show. Oh, yes, with
karaoke. Yes. It was like
you came on, you dressed up as
the person. Remember, like, Ramona did it as
like Britney Spears or something. That was crazy.
But then, like, she had, like, the cookbooks.
She had the great line of, and the stuff was
really nice at Target. Like, it was actually really good
shit. And now it's, like, gone.
Well, I guess she can't drive
either because John Legend had to drop her off.
And he just peeked her on the corner, like,
hi. And then, and then
they did their thing. And
you know, she was like,
you know, I made, I love Thai tea, Chrissy.
So she made her a tie tea because Chrissy's tie.
But the best is like, what I always find with that Megamarkal show,
it's like, you know, I have my best friend, like, such a Susie coming over.
And it's like, you know, and then she sees them and it's like, oh my God, we haven't seen each other in years.
I thought you guys were a best friend.
Like, like, it just, like, whoever's editing it, like, is fucking.
Yeah, like they don't know each other at all.
At all. Yeah.
It's like, that's a strange.
you remember that girl in season one
and I talked about it
It was like
She came over
She's like
Oh my God
You're so tall
And it's like
I thought you were her best friends
Like did you not see her before
Like
And then it's always like
We're just gonna take something
Out of the fridge
And see what we can make of it
I'm like
And she's like
You know what
I love like doing these
Dips scarves
And stuff with that
Now
Oh my God
When she
And then she's like
She started to do like
Tie-dye
To tie dye
She's like
I love doing this
Now I haven't done this
before
So that's why I'm making you
Doing it with me
Wait
You just said
go back and watch it
like it's just like what
I think the producers are terrified of
they're not being like hey Megan
you just said that you do this all the time
so we can't really say this the first time
like we always do like girls dinner
I can't imagine if somebody just came
and like
was like here Heather
I made you a tie-dye scarf
from my house and then I wrapped
it in old burlap
for wrapping paper
and I'd be like
and then I also made you
like a homemade loaf of sourdough bread
I'm like when there's like
a gorgeous French bakery down this
like what are you doing?
I know.
It's just not believable
unfortunately it's not aspirational
and people are just annoyed by her
I just she's not and the thing about it is
because me and my producer friend
we would always talk about it like what is it
like why is why am I not liking this
like what because she's not talking to us
down the camera lens
she's not talking to us and teaching us
so we're disconnected from it
and she seems like we're like a second gesture
do you know what I mean
she's talking to producers behind the recording
do you think that she'll ever
go back to acting or be on
well come first a legit acting role
or like a real housewife type of show
I mean there's still an interest
that she'd have to move
I think she could be an actress
I think she was decent at doing that
and I think she could have actually excelled in that
well funny that you asked
because she just signed up for classes
at the groundlings
Christy Teagan
Megan Markle
and Heather Debrough
Wait who was the other one that I said
That we just were talking about
Gina
Who else did I say?
They're going to go on a comedy tour
Oh Sheena
Oh Sheena yeah
Sheena
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
No, but she, like, yeah, she, yeah, they all, they all are talented, but whatever.
Let's see.
All right.
I tell everybody, you have your own podcast.
My own podcast.
How can they listen?
Don't let it do.
It's on Spotify, Apple, whatever.
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