Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - The Golden Bachelor, Sister Wives and Mother God with Kate Casey

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Unscripted TV expert Kate Casey is here to go deep! First, we chat about my time at the Variety Women of Reality TV event, where I talked to Kandi Burruss of RHOA! JWoww got vulnerable on stage talking about her son. Kyle Richards is giddy about Morgan Wade. Golden Bachelor Gerry is having to answer about his past. The Mother God documentary is even crazier than it looks. Garcelle had a mic drop moment on RHOBH. Julie Roberts shares the truth about the original script of Pretty Woman. Enjoy! Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Follow Kate https://www.katecasey.com  Go to https://theouai.com for 15% off sitewide when you enter promo code JUICY. Download the DraftKings Casino app NOW and sign up with promo code JUICYSCOOP and play FIVE DOLLARS to get ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS IN CASINO CREDITS! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Addicts it fast to the number one tabloid real life hot cat listen in Loser home Woo-hoo, Hannah McDonald Juicy Scoop Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. We've got a Juicy one for you today. I have a top podcaster into your friend of mine, Mother of Five, wife, sister, aunt, blonde delight from the OC. Yes, it's Kate Casey with reality life with Kate Casey is my guest. Girl, thanks for driving out.

Hey, happy to be here. Dropped off that one kid and came straight straight down the highway. Yeah, straight down the highway. Happy to be here. Thank you. We've been friends for so long. And I'm trying to remember how you had a hilarious blog, blog, that you would write recaps of real housewives episodes like a cliff note but of a Shakespearean play. Yes. And I had stuff to it that didn't happen. And I just thought it was so funny. And somehow you wrote me or I saw it.

I was like, this is hilarious. And then we started talking. Yeah. And I came to your show. OK. You were to show in the OC. OK. We're going to come down.

And then we just kind of started talking. And then I went to juicy scoop. You had me on to talk about housewives. Yes. And then I was talking to you about how, like, what do I do beyond this blog? Yeah, you're like, why? I had a lot more people to read this blog.

And I'm like, why don't you just do your blog, but as a podcast? Yeah. Because that's where it's at. And I think people are lazy and they're not into reading anymore. That was true. And that was like, eight, seven, eight years ago.

Yes. Long time. We are good friends. We are talk on the phone friends. And I thoroughly enjoy you and thank you for coming out because we have a lot to discuss. But first, I need to tell you, since you're a housewife person.

Okay. And reality TV people. Oh, really? Right up my alley. I went to Variety's, women of reality TV people. Oh really like. Right up my alley. I went to varieties, women of reality TV event. It was this past Wednesday and it was at Spago and it was really, really fun. I like Spago. It was really nice. So they had all the tables and then the front they had three different panels. And there was some juicy stuff that came out with the panel, but first as I was walking into the dining room,

my heart skipped a beat because I saw Christine from Sister Wives. In my opinion, she's the most powerful woman in reality television right now. I agree. I really do. And she, I said, I have been writing you, and I know people sometimes don't see DMs or whatever, but I'm like, I would die to have you on Juicy Scoop

and she said, oh, are you the Heather from Juicy Scoop? My husband has said that. So the husband is up on it and we wanna get her here. I mean, I would go, I think I'd like, don't you think she wants to leave Utah? Just tell her. She comes out here. Yeah.

We'll get you a bus and we'll just take you on a tour of all the sites. You know, she seems like she would be far. She's real far-hop and I got my mouth has been dropping during this last reunion. Yeah. I'm talking about sister wives and unbelievable. And I just saw a clip of something else where now Mary is talking. Mary's wife number one. Yes.

And she's not happy with Christine. No. She said it's Christine. She's like, I really didn't want to tell the story. But basically, it seems like a lot has being cracked open about once they went public, a.k.a. got the reality show. What was hidden and what was acted? And it sounds like coding acted for many years.

Like he actually was still in love with Mary and was still into a relationship with Mary. When now we know that never was the case because even before the show started to air, he melted down, melted it down, melted down, the wedding ring that he exchanged and received from Mary at their actual wedding since she was the only person he was really married to. Yeah, no, he completely fabricated his feelings about her for the sake of the show.

I think for 14 years now, or whatever, how many years has been? I think he probably is at heart a monogamous and always has been that way, but he saw the opportunity to maybe not work in some office and could get a TV show, so he didn't have to work, because it seems like all he does is drive from one house to the other.

He never has a job. And that convertible, like the other women, that's so much less. All the other women. That's his wife convertible. Yeah. All the other women worked. And he just kind of like went from house to house. I don't know. Nobody really knows what his other job. I don't think he's, I don't think he's probably in a relationship.

I don't think he's probably in a relationship. Internet marketing. Yeah. And also something with like gun shows and stuff I heard. Yeah. I think he did gun sales for a little bit, but I don't know if he still does that. He doesn't strike me as somebody who works very hard.

I have also reason to believe that he and his wife, Robin, the one he pretty much lives with. I think they're perpetual, spenders and hoarders. Totally. Because you never see anything filmed in their home. Right. It must be just stacked with boxes. The few times they've shown things,

people like slew stuff like pointed out, like, there's a new picture, like there's a tiny part on the wall that's there and then she gets something to fill it. Like, she's definitely, and I think the adult kids have related to that. So I'm very happy to see that Christine is out and gone. Me too. And the show is going to continue, which it will be interesting to see now the true aftermath that like all the lies are nobody's pretending anymore. And let's see what happens. And they'll

I guess just be filming at several different locations. And my locations, you mean fire pits outside. That's the only place that they they felt. I think the really interesting part is the way the kids how they communicate because Robyn's daughters who seem like zombies, they go to the same school as some of the other kids, but the mothers don't speak to each other. And when Robyn, it's so weird too, because in seeing the adult kids now be on the couch with all of them, they look and act so much like both the parents. You some of them look very much like Cody,

some of them look exactly like Janelle. And Christine's daughters too, sometimes at the same cadence of the voice. And so that's kind of like, as people that have watched reality TV for a long time, we're like, wow, this is truly a second generation, which is really kind of bizarre to watch. And the Robin daughters are the same fake cryers,

no offense, like, like, I wanted to sit on the porch with my sister. Why? How can this happen? Why can't Mary stay even though I never see her. I don't let her around my kids. But Cody and hers should try to work it out. The G-Think actually that she gives a shit about living a polygamist's life in terms of

which one, Robin, like having all these systems or do you think she just married him because she wanted to get away from the X and this was an opportunity to be a TV star. I think it was all of it. Yeah. I think she did like him. I think they had sexual chemistry. Yeah. I think she was like, I don't care if you sleep with these other women because she caught a new they're probably not. And the newest and the cutest. Yeah. And he probably told her to, I really don't sleep with Mary or Christine and one and and I think he always screwed Janelle because he said I was a boy toy to her. So I think they had like a little freaking geeky like friends benefits kind of a thing. Yeah. And I just think she really didn't

care, you know, about that. And she was smart enough to know that like, I'm younger. So I'm going to have kids passed when they are. And I'm going to be the queen anyway. But I really thought I really think she liked having the nights alone with him not being there. She liked to watch what she wanted. And she was financially taking care of those other women were working order stuff online. Yeah. She did not want him around all the time. And also, this is what her plan really was, was to be sitting on the porch, having all these people this show to go forever,

her to be queen bee. So yeah, I think she is really bummed about it. Yeah, but I love- And I also feel as she knows that, if he's gotten rid of all these women, there's going to be a time where he might tire her of her too. Or a lot of us, I think, three years from now, prediction, it just came. What?

There's going to be another woman. No, she leaves him. She may leave him if the money dries up because I think her, I think she likes spending money more than she likes him. Yes. But I also think he loves being a TV star more than he loves her. So if he thinks that the show can only continue to exist, if he finds another wife, he will find one. And she might, yeah, and she'll say, I'm okay with that too. I don't think she'll really be jealous about it.

I think she'll be like, good, I don't want to, I'm tired of screwing you. I'm now, she's getting closer to 50. I think I think I'm getting on a lot. I do, but I don't even think she's into it. Right. I think it's like my wife Lee Dooty. Right. Anyway, dying to get her on the show.

Then I saw Rachel Lindsay, former Batsurette, turn reporter and now a podcaster of higher learning. So she was part of being honored for people that have gone on to have podcasts that do well. And Carrie Ananaba was there of Dance With Stars. And she said a really interesting thing on the panel. She said, I feel, and she got emotional talking about it. I get a lot more criticism for my opinion of the dancers of dancing with

the star from fans who are mostly female fans. Welcome to our world, here. Then the men. Welcome to our world, friends. Yeah. Let's start a gang. Yeah. Yeah. She's why my opinion is more scrutinized than when the men say you didn't dip far enough or whatever. And I went to her and I said I'm so glad you said that. It's so true. And I don't know why women are like that about other women. I don't know why they don't see the need to want to support each other more yet when it's a man.

When you would think the reaction would be, it's a sisterhood. Right. It's something like, if somebody comes against your family, it's like, I can say that about my own family, but you can't. That should be the theory about any sort of criticism or review of a show or of a dancer. There's like, only I can do it, but somehow men are able to give their opinions and without anyone being upset. It's a strange vortex that we live in.

Right, and so many men have entered the realm of talking about housewives and all of that, which they have every right to do and lots, you know, they have fun, different opinions or whatever. But, you know, I think what makes it interesting when you, I talk about it, is because the reason I've always been attracted to it is because we are women. We can relate to not, you know, having a problem with a sister-in-law, a wedding situation, inviting this person or not. Your kids doing this, you're fighting with your husband. Like all of that, managing,

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and it was a lot of that about that and a lot of the women up there were kind of saying, like yes, this part is really hard. And when you realize you can't hide something, but then the benefit is that by putting it out there, you can benefit so many people that are watching at home. True. And so with J.W.O., her son has autism.

Okay. And so she was like, I knew as he was a nonverbal two-year-old, as he got into being later too, and the cameras were back in the house, I knew that people, moms, would start to notice and question, and I didn't want to be that mom that was like, that the camera made it look like I was in denial about my son's prognosis.

And I wanted to show what early diagnosis can do and help in all of that. And I think from what I recall, is that was part of, which is a common thing with mothers and their husbands, when they don't agree with the diagnosis of the child. But the treatment plan. I don't know if that's what broke up her marriage,

but I kind of remember that might have been a strong part of it. So she's like, so then my divorce was on there and everything. So I thought she came off great into how many people she's helped with that, which is so important. Important, really important. Yeah, so she was great. Candy was great. Candy from Atlanta. She, one thing that she said was, I was like, what was the worst moment?

And she's like, when we were, when we, when I was accused with my husband on the show of drugging in it, drugging a woman, a cast member, and with the, with the hopes to take sexual advantage of her. And I'm like, I'm like, how do you get past that? I can't. I mean, I remember, you know, that's where she goes, the lies, you know, that's the famous moment. And like Peter's sitting there with me

and he's like, what? And I'm like, yeah. And so I went up to her after it. I'm like, I'm really glad that you don't just brush over that. Bring it up for the rest of your life because as someone that has had lies and shit told about me publicly and till the day I die, there's gonna be one person in my comments that are like, I don't believe you

or this or that, it's happening a few times. Nothing is bad as this, but bad calling me a thief and everything. And even though I proved it without a doubt, it's like, you still want to shout it from the roof, trust, because you're like, it didn't happen. And I don't want anyone to like watch an old episode and then not watch the fall-up episodes and think that. And so she was great.

And then I talked to her after and I go, I can't believe Drew didn't come to BravoCon. Not good. And she's like, yeah, especially because there's all this talk of them replacing people and whatnot. And I said, I want to, I go, I better show up. I go, I go, I how would you feel about Kim Zolsey at coming back? Because I want to see what's going on in her life.

They get back together, they're breaking up. She's a gambler. She's not, you know, she's a gambler. But then he doesn't make money and they hate each other. They love each other. She's doing fake clickbait about her daughter being pregnant when she's not. And, you know, because she's desperate for money and she's selling her, you know, old shoes, whatever.

I'm like, get the cameras. Why give that to anybody else for Bravo? And she was like, tell them, I feel, I feel like they the cameras. Why give that to anybody else for Bravo? And she was like tell them I feel I feel like they will bring her back. I mean because I think they brought her back the Bravo audience really likes nostalgia And I think they love to circle. That's the great thing about reality shows if you watch a scripted show You know this is us that character in that period of time is Suspended there right but with reality shows, we can continue keep following all of their lives years and years after

the KEO kids in Orange County, or Kim Zolciac's family. And this is just another chapter that I think is wildly fascinating. Why would they not want to cover it? Also, because it's not her own show anymore, she doesn't have as much control. I think you're going to have a much more authentic story for Cammy, because it's not the don't be tardy for the party. I find Kim fascinating and I would totally love to see this, whatever it is, whether

she's become really raw, whether she's in denial, whether she changes over the course of, but 100% and what I love about candy is that through all these franchises and Brawavikans and everything, two women love each other and they hate each other and they say things like, if that person's filming, then I won't be in the same room and I don't want them back and did it.

And candy's like, you know, with a candy face, I don't care. No, she doesn't really care. She'll get in there and call you out, but She's smart enough and she's so above it that it doesn't matter who they put on that cast with her She will engage be authentic And always in my opinion always be worldwide on top kitty Well, I think that's why production love serves, because she had a career that preceded this.

Right. And I think that's probably the frustration on the production, and I interview a lot of producers. Yeah. And it is frustrating when you work with somebody who's sort of curated their own persona, because they wanted to be a reality star, and they are, as always, they pluck from obscurity, right?

They don't... So, are you saying that the reality show producers prefer a candy? They prefer a candy. They prefer a candy. Oh, okay. Because they're going to show up on time. They understand it's for the sake of the show. They're a team player versus sometimes who's plucked from obscurity who doesn't have

it, like, some sort of professional background. And then they get too caught up in the tunnel of what the, you know, what the audience thinks. Yeah. I'd rather have a candy working on my show. Oh yeah. I'm naged. As long as candy will do it, nation-errget-ready. Okay, she's to go for all these reasons because she's just, she's to go for the show. I don't want her to ever leave. And I think she should continue on. I mean, if she made a pass this lie and proved, I don't think people will ever fuck with her again. Because she proved it and, you know,

and have fun with her, enjoy her. She can be a great friend to you. But yeah, if you piss her off, though, you're gonna get to candy, you know? So you're the, let me see who else. And then of course Kyle was there and Kyle was really authentic too and talking about how, yeah, I've been through a lot

on the show, I've had issues with my sisters and this and that. And then this thing with my husband, I knew I wasn't gonna try to like hide it. And I totally believe that. I don't think, I think when people say does she use things for storylines, no, I think someone like her,

if you are gonna sign up for this, and this is why this discussion was really so interesting. If you're gonna sign up for it, you can't hide it, and she said that she goes, you can't hide it. And she said that. She goes, you can't hide it because not only are there receipts, but the receipts are on film from episodes that have aired. So she's like, so when Sutton was being like, name, name, name, Kyle in her head was seeing the actual stories that she's viewed back watching the show in which she did all those things.

And just on this last episode, Kyle, the, so Kyle has a beautiful dinner party. And her pot dinner party, I want everyone to call it. And you watch the episode. And then they have another discussion. She and son after the name I'm seen. And she's like, well, I was, I was upset Kyle because, you know, my husband, my ex-husband Christian, he just got a huge, a huge promotion. And he is going to move to London and he wanted to bring my son.

And, you know, but my son doesn't want to go. And Kyle, in my opinion, is like, smart enough to know that if your kid is over 13, you know, it's kind of up to the kid. If the kid wants to live in London, it's gotta be hurtful for you, but it sounded like the kid didn't. So quickly, she says the kid's not going, which is the saddest part of the story if that was the case. The kid's not going.

And she was okay, so then cause, so I get that you were set, but you had a happy ending, right? He's not going. And then she's like, but now I have to get more child support. And we already know that you get $300,000 tax free a month. And she has to get more because now technically I have him more percentage of the time.

Yeah. And it's just a problem, you know, to have to go to, you know, deal with him legally. You know, she's not gonna have to go to court. It's gonna be one call. One call of the insurance. One call to up to three seventy five a month. But that's why we like that show because it's completely unrelated. And meant listen, reality shows you and I love them. Yes. Because it's a study in human behavior. Yes. And we're studying the behavior of people who have completely lost sense of reality because they have such a privileged life.

Right. That's why we like whether they have such a privileged life. Right. That's why we're whether they share a husband with three people totally. And I believe are the least paid reality stars in the history of reality. And you always have such a good point about that too. What they had been on the show. 17 years and 17 years in such a wide range.

They didn't get like a different haircut. They didn't get veneers. They didn't do any of the things that we are now to respect a reality stars. Right. Maybe they're the ones that keep it real more than anybody. Well, I mean, I said that I go, I think, yeah, like we just see like very, you know,

the hour time of a bunch of shit stacked up in the corner, not even a border's house. Just got in and get to the mail this week. Like just very real, not, you know, running this. Are you such a dork like I am? That was Christine broke up with Cody and they were filming in that little room. Did you look at all the books and the bookshelves?

No, did you zoom in? Oh yeah. Let me guess what they were. Okay. I guess what they were. I think they were a lot of inspirational. Yes. Of course.

God speaks and whispers. Oh, I'm in a stuff like that. Okay, what was that? Yeah, like toilet books. Like, you know, inspiration things that, you know, like keep your girl, keep a gong girl that Cheryl author that Reese Witherspin always makes for movies, like that kind of stuff.

Okay, all right, good. Okay, getting back to Beverly Hills. So that, what I loved is that Kyle, and I didn't even think about that, the Kyle brings up. Well, you've kind of done a lot, you know, satin, you were upset and saying that we should be sympathetic to you because you had to sell your one house and bill air and buy another house and bill air. Right. On your out the first of many presents this season with holidays on the house from draft King's casino

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And then the other one was, God, there was another one that she brought up about it just being an extra, that your, the day after Doreet's burglary, you were saying that your Paris designer who designed the braze or whatever, couldn't get him into the country and so that you were going a lot, that like it's burglary, you were saying that your Paris designer who designed the braze or whatever couldn't get him into the country and so that you were going a lot that like it's always about you and that you are very disconnected from not just rich people, but like anybody,

like even rich people, so many, so much. She's not empathetic. Right. And she has no clue, but that also makes for a great housewife and I'm thoroughly enjoying the weirdness of Sutton. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. We need her.

Protect her at all costs. And speaking of Beverly Hills, we'll go back to Beverly Hills. OK, so let me just finish this variety. So that was really fun. So that I loved that. And then Teresa was there and Heather Gaye, who I talked to, but they were not on a panel. So they're taking lots of photos here, I'm with Heather Gay.

She told me that she wasn't happy with the way I covered the black guy. Which guy? Her black guy. Her black eye, no black guy. You're like, what's your she part of housewives? I was like, what part do they miss? No, the black eye.

She didn't like, but why? Honestly, I cover so much, I don't remember. I'm not juicy part of that. That's why I said that. I'm not part of the mess. She didn't like, but why? Honestly, I cover so much. I don't remember. But even when I'm friends with the people, if I'm watching the show, and I know that it's edited and everything, and I do feel bad because we have gone to Beauty Lab, we've hung out one night. You know, we've talked about our kids getting married and being Grandma Hothers together.

So I do thoroughly like her and I love her on the show Yeah, but if I said something in which I was annoyed with I Know her I know about the black eye and I've said also that I don't know if she was you know pleasing Production might not sharing what she should be sharing Protecting anybody else protecting herself herself, protecting Jensha. I don't know, but we are all frustrated with it. We are all frustrated. But she hinted that we will find out more soon.

Oh, good. About the black eye. Finally. And very juicy with her and Monica and suing the beauty lab. That's the new girl on Salt Lake who I've explained has the weird relationship with the mom. Yes. But I feel like those two, they are desperate to be on the show.

The mother and the daughter. Do you think they're green to be TV stars? Well, one of the things is when she can take her Range Rover away whenever she wants. Right. The mother. And I did feel like this scene was very scripted that they're in the front room. The car drives up. Yeah, it's the mom. She comes out. They have bad acting mean words. Yeah. And I literally feel like when the mom is like screaming at her, she's like, like, like, you know, I fucking the camera. Yeah. And so then she's like, no, Mom, I'm not getting you.

I'm not driving home or getting an Uber. And then the mom just walks off with a bike pack on her back down the street. And it did that a lot of people like, no way to produce production do that. They never leave you stranded down a street. No, you know, they never are, they, there's a car waiting.

When I was 12 years old, she dropped me off with a strange family in Pennsylvania because know, they never are they. There's a car waiting. She said, when I was 12 years old, she dropped me off with a strange family in Pennsylvania because she wanted to pursue her dream. Yes, I need to know what the dream is. Because if she wanted to be a real estate agent, that's very different than she wanted to be a rock cat. I mean, that's what I said. I don't think she got a job selling IBM computers.

No, I think it was either a man, some romance that she thought I wanna live in New York lifestyle and then the guy dumped her and then she realized she couldn't afford to live there. Or it was some type of which she thought would lead to a glamorous acting something. I think so. And I would love for Monica to reveal that on the reunion. Mm-hmm. Tell us. Yeah, why?

Why not? Tell us. That's juicy. But yeah, it's also going to say a lot about who you are and who your mother is and why you're on the reunion. Tell us. Yeah, why? Why not? Tell us. That's juicy. But it's also going to say a lot about who you are and who your mother is and why you're on the show. Somebody wrote me and said that they worked together at a company. Who? She and Monica. Monica was like, you know, like I think, right out of college. Okay. Okay. Like lower level position, but she made it very clear. My dream is to be famous. All right. so, well, you got it. She did.

She's frustrated. She manifested it. She manifested it. Here is Paige, just the cutest. Yeah. Just gorgeous. And she was on the panel about, you know, successful podcasters who come from reality TV.

Yes. And one of the questions they asked her was, or they asked the panel and she joined it. What is it like when you make true friendships on the show, you're both on the show, and one of you doesn't get asked back, but you continue on the show. Is it hard to continue the friendship when your friend is no longer a housewife, whatever? Yeah. And of course, she's very good friends with Hannah, and they have a popular podcast together, the gig lead squad. And so she's like, well, in my case, have a popular podcast together, the gig lead squad. And so she's like, well, in my case,

it was the best thing that could ever happen for my co-host, is that Hannah was an ass back to summer house. Because then she, you know, when she was always say firing whatever's the best, because then you don't have the comfort of going, well, I could work harder, but I know come June 1st, I'm gonna spend three months drinking and being an asshole

in a summer house, you know. And then Hannah, you know, is a huge touring standup down, and then they had this popular podcast. So I thought that, but that's not what I'm talking about. That was great. That's an anomaly. Probably, yes. I don't think that really happens a lot. And that was a good question to ask. Yeah. Because a lot of the housewives that once they're, they are let go, I think they really have this epiphany where they realize they've become addicted to fame. Yeah. And I don't know if that's easy for somebody

to be around someone else that's still on the show when you're struggling in that space. Like, what is my, how do I identify myself now? Like, you know, we always say like, somebody erases their real housewives of Blabody Blow from their bio. That must be like putting shackles on. Yeah. Like, who am I in the world now? Yeah, I guess Bethany Frank home recently said on her show or whatever she said, the two people that will never be asked back

are myself and Carol now because we have we have like stood up to Andy and I'm like oh my god I wonder if she's trying to get Carol to come on her show. I'm of course. They'd ask me a good one. That's the interview that people want to see us talk again. Yes. I think even more than Jill. Oh yeah. I think people really love the dynamic between Carol. But Carol will. The Bethany will not hold back and will not be there to try to get Chummy with her. She will be like, what the fuck, Bethany, you know you were acting like that you were overly hurt by me when nothing had happened that summer and you were like, blindsided me and

I don't know what what the fuck was your motivation girl and if can and if Bethany is like she should do it she should do that and if Bethany is like all right I'll tell you what it was yeah I think that would be like that would be and it's not about you getting a new haircut or getting Beyonce's former stylist and nothing to do with that like what was the demise of that and I think when you have an ex-best friend whether it's on a reality show or in real life, you want to be like, what was your moment that you snapped and was like, we're done. We're done. I'm taking her down in front of the cameras. What was it, even for someone who's pretty diabolical for Bethany as far as being a real. I want to say that I want to say that. Yeah. So speaking of new podcasts, Rachel's podcast is coming.

I saw. Yeah. I told you, I don't think she should be doing anything for at least eight months. Well, we'll see what happens. Obviously the way, you know, she's got to what I said tell the story of like every moment and when she almost got caught, which I, if she does it at the top of her show and spreads it over a few episodes, then that's

gonna be great. But then will she be able to keep people coming back every week once she shared a story or does she just, I believe my prediction is that she'll just start out with, you know, interviewing people that are fitness experts and, you know, emotional healers and, you know, and then when that dries out, then she will start talking about van. Then my heart will be like, you have to talk about van or pump rules. I think she will. I think a lot struggle with that because they start shows and they really don't

want to talk about the thing that actually meet them famous. Right. And then they get so much pressure to actually talk about it. Yeah. I could see where it would be very frustrating. Yeah. Yeah. There's candy. Here's Louis and Teresa and I photobombed their photo here. And they really are like so fun. And I think he loves his life being married to Theresa. They are like, they pose, they take photos, they look great, they go to all the things. And he's like always like a nice happy guy. So there you go.

Let's talk about the golden bachelor. Oh my God, I'm so fired up about it. Why did you fill people in? You can tell, explain what is going on. We now know that he, the golden bachelor we know now is gotten with Teresa that was down to two women, her and this other girl. Do you remember the other one? Leslie. Leslie, who was more of a Hipper woman. She, I don't believe she's ever been married or she was divorced, had several relationships in her lifetime. Unlike Teresa, who much like Jerry had a similar

married the high school sweetheart, was a widow. There he's 72, she's 70, I think Leslie was more like 64 maybe, but like acted and had a younger persona about her persona. Yeah, super hot. Yeah, and fun. And so I did not watch like the final episodes and stuff, did you? Yes.

So please tell us. So what you need to know is this, when he was packaged, they made it seem like this guy was laying in a fetal position since his wife died, has not been on one date. And that also he is this extremely successful restaurant her. And he has a lay on one date. And that also he is this extremely successful restaurant her. And he has a layhouse.

Yes. And it's positioned like the woman that comes to his life, it's here's the key, extra key. You're gonna move into the slake house and we're gonna set our dreams on fire. Yes. Well, two days before the finale, Hollywood reporter puts this great article out.

I love an expose. I live for them. Okay. This woman Carolyn has come forward. Carolyn in Air quotes because she wants to go through another name because lunatics like myself are gonna find her. I wanna interview her. Okay.

So she says she was actually in a two and a half year relationship with him, which is like, wait, what? Also that he's not this like a restaurant or he had some hamburger franchise, not a franchise, but like a hamburger business or something, but he sold it in 1985. Yes, I saw that. And he's been working essentially like as a handyman. Which by the way, is totally fine.

It's just why was he painted as something completely different? Like, just let the guy be who he is. Because he said when it came out that, so they met at a mental health facility in which she was the maintenance van and she worked there. Yes. And they met and started dating two months after the wife passed. Two months.

And the maintenance thing is if people are like, wait, because we're all thinking about that first episode where he's looking out at the lake and everything. And so he is responded and said, yes, I did that because I was already retired. And that's something I enjoyed doing, which is a very normal profession and you're out and you're doing things and it did not mean anything wrong. No one to sugrise with that. But it was but I think it's a different way. Well, I think the bachelor at people,

bachelor people could say, go to bachelor, well, we just didn't include that part because, but you should have because it's a stay-to-day life. That's a story. Yeah. That's who he is. Okay, the other thing that came on the article because this one you're gonna love, especially because you talk about Peter being cheap all the time. Yes. So apparently Jerry, and by the way, his name is Spud J. He's my G-E-R-R-Y, which is enough to drive you crazy. But his name's Gary. So it looks like Jerry, but it's pronounced Gary. Wait, really? Yes. What everyone calls him Gary? Everybody. That you're right. And why is it still like that? I don't know. It's kind of like to drive you insane. Okay. So when Gary was with

Carolyn, they, the girl from the from the two and a half years, yeah, that he met. Okay. He wanted her to go half season. All the best. Fine. But here's the weirdest story. When they would go out to eat, she would have to give him money ahead of time. So that when the bill came, it looked he would feel good about looking like he's paying the whole bill. See, I don't think this is him being cheap. I think it's some him not having a lot of money. I really don't think he has that much money. Well, probably, but that's still weird.

It's horrible. Give me the money ahead of time so that I can look like the hero and I'm paying, that's appalling, controlling and weird. And okay, so that comes out also when she moved in with him. She said he wanted her to give him $1,000 a month for living expenses, but she managed to get him down to $8.50. And then of course, the thing that really upsets us ladies is that in October of 2019,

and she was ready to join him, Gary, at his high school reunion. And he said, according to her, I'm not taking you to the reunion, looking like that. Carolyn, who said that she'd put on 10 pounds at the time due to stress, probably she'd gather up the money before going to dinner, recalled Turner allegedly saying, referring to her body, that's when they call it quits. And yeah.

And so then, let me see. He said, I retired at 55, but I was very happy to give him back. So that's why he started doing this other job. Anyway, obviously, Rolling Stone had this woman and this interview way before the show. And they waited until two days before. And they waited for two days before and then he and Teresa and he's like, you know, I just am happy

with Teresa and one of the things he said about Teresa that's also pissing off people as he said. I feel like she's the one that could make a relationship last, which was kind of a diss to the Leslie who's had other long term relationships in her 64 years and not just one person who died. Okay, also, she said in an interview that he knew it was meant to be with Teresa because she had mentioned that she has a son that lives near Charleston, South Carolina and he's always had this dream of moving there. So it would like sync up with his life plans

and also she still works. He only asked her way late into the game. Like it came up in conversation on one of their dates like that she works and has this career. And it was very much like, oh yeah, like tell me, tell me about your career. Like that is not something you ask like date two. Like everybody hears the thing. We all know we're only seeing certain things. So he could have gotten everybody's financials what, you know, on the dates and they brought in the bachelor could have chosen not to show it

because it would turn us off. It is my opinion now that in every time he met a woman, no, but I'm saying, I think he asked. I think he asked and got the info. No, no, I know. So I know you're saying. I know you didn't see it. I think that was part of him choosing people.

I think he's like very selfish. Okay. And I think he likes her because he wants the Charleston house. So this whole story about living in the Lake House is a moot point because they're moving to Charleston, South Carolina. Do you know that one, that one bachelor way back, Jason Mesnick?

Yeah, he had the supposed to Lake or Boat House. Yeah, no, Melissa Wright, she went to the Boat House, and then she told me later, she's like, I'm looking around the place and there's not one picture in a frame of him. It was like a rented house. It was a staged house. Yeah, and then it came out later

that they completely embellished just job too. That's I would call Tony and then and then and then she dumped her on the air to go for then he went for Molly and they are still together and they have a daughter. Yeah, they're totally happy. Yeah. Yeah, well, some of that is, you know, the show telling you to do this. Don't mention your maintenance job, whatever. So we can't be completely mad at Gary. Of course we can be mad. I mean, what hour time into the show? But, you know, welcome to being a famous dude.

It sucks. You know, good luck to you and Teresa. But they're good. And they're gonna need a TV wedding. So they're gonna do just fine. You think people still want this TV wedding? You don't think you'll care about this. That much. Yeah, they care. 13 million people, I think, watch the finale. All? You don't think people care about this. That much.

13 million people, I think, watch the finale. All right, then they'll have their final thing. But I wonder now will they show him, oh, this is what they're gonna do. They're gonna do like, what's been happening before the wedding? And he's, they're gonna show going to the mental health facility. Oh, yeah. And then very much making it very clear,

we have loved that you've come and helped us in this and that. But if he's getting a salary, that's not helping out and volunteering. And I believe it was a salary. He was not volunteering to work there. No, he was a hired maintenance man in Sky. So which is fine, but they're going to definitely do that. So it's like, oh, and how much he loved it.

They're moving to the South Carolina totally, or they'll make it that's the theme of the wedding. Yeah. A meeting. But yeah, here's the thing. If your Teresa's kids, grandkids, whatever, yeah, abort mission mom, don't get married on TV to this weirdo. I mean, I will one things for sure is I'd be like, you're doing a prenup and you're doing a will that yeah, you know We're each money saves with the kids if the other one dies. It doesn't go to the space. Yeah, but is she gonna listen to them now? Oh, and then they're gonna be like we really support her or mom doing this show and now that's the that's gonna be the documentary afterward Well, it reminds me of the famous famous,

this is from 2000. Oh, that was the million, do you want to marry a millionaire? Yes, great. It was the first of its kind. It was before the bachelor. Listen up, kiddies, kiddos. We're going to tell you a little juicy scoop history.

There was a show, it was a Fox. It was a one night thing for two hours where a man was behind a thing. He's calling her his voice. I don't know if he got to see the girls looks. But the girls did not get to see him. And they were lined up and they went through a series of questions until he decided based on all the questions over two hour live event, who he was gonna ask to marry him. And he asked this girl who was, I believe a nurse, she said yes, and then she, they get, they meet

and she does marry him. Yeah. But shortly after it comes out that he's not, he's technically a millionaire but barely. It was like he owned a house in San Diego, but there was a loan on it. So even though it might have retailed or whatever for like 850,

he still owed like 750. I don't know what the story was. He was not rich. He was doing a, he was trying to be a standup comic, just so embarrassing. story was he was not rich. He was doing a he was trying to be a standup comic right to Sone-Barrasing and he also did a cable access show in San Diego that my husband Peter used to watch and remembered it. I remembered it from that it was really bad. So again, someone who was always wanting to be on TV. Yes. Always wanted to be famous. And then there were of

course those domestic violence things and all these stories and restraining orders and that's where they're like, why did, so they never slept together. I think they went on the cruise and she was totally like, despondent on the cruise. She was like, what have I done? I need to get out of here. So she gets out of it. And then I want to say she did playboy or something. She was like, she was like a round for the next four years,

poppin' on a hard copy or something. And then I think she did finally marry somebody and lives in thousand ohms. I think she's a nurse. Yeah, still. Stay at the stillin' nurse. But that was a juicy, I'm sure. Remember the women, you can see him,

but he was behind the screen and they were like, I am going to make all your dreams happen. Yes, he was a billionaire today. Like they made it up here. If this was today, it would have been, do you want to make a billionaire? Yes. And you would say, yes, I don't care what you look like,

because we are going to be flying on private jets and whatever, like basically, Jackie O'Nassus marrying O'Nassus. Like, I know you're an ugly little troll, but how else? But, you know, the kind of things that cut off my security for my two kids. And I want to buy a cashless sweater in every color. So I'm going to marry this guy and he'll like to have Jackie. Oh, is this why?

Did you read that book, kid? I've read part, I've read many books on it, which book you refer to. No, this is the new book you need to, this is your vacation book. It's what it's called. Jackie Public Private Secret, it's by J. Randy Teraborelli, and it's all about Jackie, and there are so many stories in it,

and they talk about the Aristotle marriage. They only actually had sex one time. That's what I always thought. They only had sex one time, and she basically said to him, I will be your, you know, the public trophy wife, because his reputation had taken quite a big dig. Yeah.

And you need to give me the lifestyle that I want. She was terrible with money. She spent so much money. And yeah, they only sub together one time. I totally believe that. And you know, that she snagged him from her sister. Her sister. Her old rascal mother. Sister was in love with him. but that was in the first time because Her sister actually first met JFK and then their mother said, you know, he should really be with Jackie Not you so that that Aristotle was the second time that happened There is so much in you are gonna your head will explode. I'm so excited and I just remember my mom who you know was around that age Yeah, or a little younger, but still. And I just remember like years later when we'd get the people magazine and stuff and it was like,

you know, her and O'Nass is doing something. And she was like, oh, please, she went from JFK to that old little troll. It's because he's a shipping person or whatever. And that was like the first time I think I was introduced to like, gold digging. Well, you knew? Like I was like, Oh, he had a sister, Artemis. And I think that was her name.

Oh, Nassistive. Yes. And she became really close friends with her. And the sister helped kind of like, grease the wheels. You know, Jack, he would be really good for you. She would, they were like working in, like, she was like the wing woman kind of greasing

the wheels. Like you should really be like, like, do you think JFK junior ever was like hanging out with his stepdad? No. And enjoying him on every any level. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, came from the uncles of the Kennedys, you know? Yes. I don't think he had any relationship. No. And what happened with O'Nassus' daughter that got everything? Oh, she hated Jackie. She hated her, despised her.

And Jackie made some sort of agreement before she died. On your knees, Christina. Christina. Yeah. And she made some sort of contractual agreement where she would get less money, and then she always kicked herself for it. Wait, she didn't get much money.. She got less money in the end.

When she went outside. Because Christina did not like her and really was pushing her father. I just don't want this woman to get a lot of your money. So they were on the outs. Also, there's a great moment in the book where she was obsessed with a for a period of time Maria Callis, who had a long affair with Aristotle. She was the very famous Greek opera singer. And one night she goes to Paris and she like stood outside Maria's apartment building just to see like what she looked like.

And she said that when she walked outside, she felt such pity. She was like, this is just so sad. Because here she's married to Aristotle. Maria's really in love with Aristotle. And she's, he wouldn't marry her. I think he actually pushed her to get an abortion too. It is a wild book.

Okay, well, and she puts it in the book again. It's called Jackie Public Private Secret. Okay. Jay Randi Terabarali. Now let's talk about a doc that is on Netflix. A lot of people are talking about it. It's called Mother God. I have seen a few of the episodes of the total three. Yeah. I think I'm almost at the end of the second. Okay. And to give a little, why don't you give the little intro about what this is? Okay. This woman is.

So her name is Amy Carlson. Okay. And she became known as mother god by her followers. She started this new age movement. She actually co-founded it. She meets this man who looks like Santa Claus on meth, right? And they hook up and they start making videos online. And he says to her, you know, you really are divine.

And she starts, you know, believing it because she's also high all the time. So she gets all of these people like really fascinated by these videos that she puts out. And this is only like, a couple years ago, this is like five years ago. This was a dream like COVID times. So you have the nuttiest people who are just looking

online with us. Yeah. And she starts saying that she has a connection to all these people that have passed away. Michael Jackson. Marilyn, Marilyn, but like she is she was Marilyn Monroe. She was Marilyn Monroe, but they're also communicating with her because they were all members of the Intergalactic Federation of Light. So they communicated to her. And so she had a portal into the fifth dimension, and that she would eventually ascend in heaven, and that people needed to send her money to support her. And she would give people crazy advice,

like drinking colloidal silver. And her health began to really decline. What is colloidal silver is bits of silver, like they used in jewelry, floating in liquid, and there are nutty people that drink it, who think that what? They think it's gonna help your immune system. And during COVID, they thought it would help

like with COVID as well. Oh my God. But what it does is it turns your skin like a purple gray hue, and also puts you into liver failure. Is that why that guy became like the real human smur or something? Yes. He was drinking silver. And there are lots of people in Facebook groups right now as we speak who are purple

writing about how they need to take colloidal silver. It's insane. So she was espousing all these weird points of you. And she also believed that she could heal other people's cancer with the power of love. Hence the name love has won, which is the name of this group of followers. So people would fly out and they would move into this like little calm. And this one girl comes to like three or four kids. Yeah. So eventually she ends up dying. And they all And they're all just smoking, pond drinking, all the other things along.

So there like, no problem that helps get closer to God. But what I found crazy is some of these people talking for the doc. So yeah, I assume they still believe what they're saying, right? And they're all like attractive. And they have that weird language, almost like Scientology or like words were just created for it And yeah, and they're explaining it with such conviction such conviction that I'm like I totally see why people get sucked in and believe it because it's like it'll be like

Mother god is part of the Escalation of Interpretation of humanitarian into the skyline and And with that, she has a direct portal into the insight of what makes us tick into the interior opatotonion. There's like weird words. Like I was like, oh my God, but they're saying it. Yeah.

Like they seem lucid alert. They're not high when they're saying it's literally like you're listening to a professor tell something in college. Like I was like, what? And they're pretty and I'm like, oh my God, what are these parents thinking? She was pretty.

Yeah, no, she was pretty. And that was crazy. She was pretty crazy. Drugs, so she had different father gods. Yes. And the father gods knew that they were, that they may not be the last one. That they might be replaced.

So it was like she was the first I feel, like the first like, you know, Charlie Manson, where like, you know, or cult leaders that would, you know, most cult leaders are men. They'd have many different women. They'd be the only people to be a female cult leader. And there's one guy that she gets that she meets online. He's like, you're, she's like,

you're gonna come and be father God. And then the previous father God is like, enjoy the pussy. Like, I don't know, just laugh. Well, also because they said, it's all about her. Yeah. Like they weren't really getting satisfied. No, he even said he goes, I was not attracted to her, but then I was told on father God,

and this is mother God. And so then I went for it, and then at one point, yeah, I was sucked in and I loved her her and also what we were high every day right before they living off oh the money of people the money the donations oh okay so then she starts she then she's paralyzed from the waist down they get paralyzed because she's just like going in organ failure because of eating the silver on top of tons of other things. Okay. Sure. And she's been like, hi. All right. And how old is she? Like early, she's only 45 when she dies. Yeah.

So she dies and they put her in a sleeping bag. They wrap her with Christmas lights. They put glitter on her face. And they are moving the body place to place. And they're at a hotel. And the maintenance people start complaining about the smell. Oh, so now they're like, we got to get out of here. So then they go to Mount Shasta.

So when the guy that was the first member, his name's Miguel Lamboy, he gets access to all the finances, cleans out the accounts, tells the authorities, they've got a dead body, they go to, and they find her dead body. So they begin in the documentary, you can actually see the eyeballs were missing. Why did they get rid of them? Because they were decomposing. Oh yeah.

And so there were charges, and what about the kid that was there? Like we have one child here. What happened there? No, there were two children that were there at this time where the dead body was there. So there were charges brought against them, but they were later dropped, which is very strange. And then all those members are kind of doing their own thing. The two women who were really cute, they still do videos, a bunch of them are like healers, and they still believe her. They believe that she was communicating with Robin Williams.

With the intergalactic Federation of Light. It is insane. Yeah, it's a crazy one. It's a good one to watch. Yeah. Also, there's bad surgeon on Netflix. That's a three-parter. Yeah. And that is a story I remember seeing on 2020 and everything. And that is about a attractive journalist who meets this high-profile surgeon who promises her the world they fall and they get engaged but they have a long distance, almost international relationship. And they're planning on getting married and he says, I'm the private doctor to Obama

and I'm the private doctor to the Pope and the Pope is going to marry us. And she never, which, you know, it's interesting because being Catholic, you know, he goes, no, the pope's gonna marry us. Now, being Catholic, I, if I was to believe that this guy was as powerful as he was, it would not occur to me to go, wait a minute, have popes ever married anybody?

Are they allowed to marry somebody? And then she realizes, like, no, that's never, again, they've never married anybody, and they're not allowed to marry anybody or something like that. And he just made it up. There are a number of things about that wedding too. I think Andrea Bochelli was supposed to perform. And then she's trying to organize the wedding

and people are sending RSVPs back, I mean, to say the least, but also he's this horrible surgeon. What kind of a surgeon was he? So he had done this surgery where he would replace someone's... Trakey out of me. Yeah, like their trake.

And so he did do a couple surgeries where the people ended up passing away from it, but they had all these other preexisting issues. But there was one person in particular where he took a donor trache and he was bathing it in stem cells. So medical journals started to pay attention and to write about it. And then he got this offer to be like a visiting professor of this, you know, pretty acclaimed school.

And like most cons, he's sort of embellishing everything. And using that to get bigger opportunity, upon a bigger opportunity, which leads to him doing these surgeries where he was taking plastic trakes and bathing it with the stem cells, which there was no study that backed it up that it actually worked.

And those people all started to die. So that was basically how he was revealed to be a con. no study that backed it up that it actually worked. And those people all started to die. So that was basically how he was revealed to be a con. And where is he now, do we know? There were charges brought, I think he started for maybe two years, I believe. And then she also finds out that, you know, he had like a whole other family.

He was married for 30 years. He wasn't even divorced and he's planning a wedding. Now what do you think? He gets out of the like he wasn't getting money from her. So what is the love condue for someone like that? Just the just the ego of making someone be in love with you? I think someone like that. He just the stakes kept getting higher. Like he gets a high off of it. Oh. Like, oh, now I'm a professor, even.

Like he knows he's got a rinky dink degree that he doesn't do accurate surgeries. And now he's like married, but this woman believes that he's the greatest guy. And like all the lies, it's like he gets a high off of it. You know what's so interesting when I see that? I see that because my stuff, father, was a con and I believe my dad's a con. I know cons. This is what they get high off. You know, it's so interesting when I see that. I see that because my stuff, father was a con and I believe my dad's a con.

I know cons. This is what they get high on. Yeah. And I also think like when someone, it was like, you know, the guy that said he was a Rockefeller, there's all the stories. I just think if you're in the right place,

yeah. And you're around the right people and you look right. And why would you question it? Why wouldn't you be like, I met this person? And I can only imagine the way he learned her in, like, you know, of being someone that's like, oh my God, you would love Shelly.

You guys would hit off. Who Shelly? Oh, I call Michelle Obama. Right. Would you ever, I know you're busy, but like, if they want to hang out in Hawaii, would you be down and you wouldn't be down? Yeah.

No, I would down to hang out with them. Like they, they like down play it, they like drop it. Yeah. And then they like down play it. And then you're just like, yeah, they're just like, that's all but it's. Oscar says he could make your dress if you're interested in that. Oscar.

Oscar De La Renta. Oh. I mean, I was just gonna go to David's bridal, but okay. Sure. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah, tell Oscar I can do it. Don't you think this Southern California is the perfect place for a con?

Oh, definitely. Because no one asked questions here. Yeah. No, when I asked questions, yeah. I, you know, I'm annoying to the point where I'm like, where did you go to school? You might want to go to the table. But a lot of people don't have questions here. I have been conned. And then you look back when you realize that you dealt with a grifter, whatever, and you

look back at all the things. And I was like, hmm, you know, who are all these friends that this girl says she has? Why have I only met the hairdresser over three years? Like, where is Leonardo DiCaprio? Where is this person? Where is Clint Eastwood's son that she's so close to when we hung out for three years? And then, I'm kind of like, but, and then I did, you know, eventually be like, okay, let's just like move along. And then, and then they, when they know that you're on

to them and they know that you're like distancing yourself, that's when they're like, boom, I'm gonna, you're gonna pay for not believing me or whatever. It's very, very interesting, but I, I, I have been conned. Yeah, I think this is the perfect place for it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. NEPO baby, here we go. Meg Ryan, Snapback at anybody who called her actor son Jack Quaid, a NEPO baby. So look, a lot of people talk about NEPO babies. It's kind of an expression that's only been around for a couple years. It's kind of cute, kind of not, I guess, if you are one. And, but I mean, so what?

Like, I think these people should just embrace it. I just think people get upset because there are people that don't acknowledge that they got a leg up. Yeah. And if you're somebody who has had zero connections and works really hard, it can be annoying when you hear someone tell, you know, their story of their success and they leave out the fact that they had a ton of leg up. Right. If you're a great actor, I feel like

one of Pal-Tro did always share that. Always talked about her dad and her mom. Yeah. And it wasn't a secret. No. And but like just don't it. But here's the thing, you know, if your parents are hanging out with marns of course, Daisy and all these people as you're a little kid growing up, and they're all at your house having dinner, and then you come running out of the stairs, and now you're 17 and you're gorgeous,

and you look just like your mom. And they're like, what is Kate up to? And they're like, well, she wants to go to NYU for acting. She just got the lead in the play. And I'm like, oh, and then they're like, but wait a minute, I'm literally casting something that she would be perfect for. Yeah.

Can she act? And just like people who are, you know, children of mechanics, they kind of have a, their brain is like they're naturally good at it. So I think a lot of actors that are children of actors are actually have an innate ability to act besides all the connections

and also having a mother read with you. Yeah. Like it is just the thing, but you're right. Just acknowledge it and say, I was inspired as a kid sitting at the kitchen table. Like if you're Natalie Woods daughter. Yeah. And you're like, we would have Christmas parties

and every star you could imagine was there. And I would study them. Right. That, as soon as you acknowledge that, I think people lay off you. Yeah. But if you're acting like I went to New York City and I stayed in a one room, you know,

this little apartment and I used to knock on doors and it's like, okay, enough with the act. Well, when I was at Kathy's party, we were talking and Kathy was like so funny and she was like, she goes, you know, uh, Don Rickles used to say at everything, she's like, Don Rickles used to hang out. Like it like this is old hot love course. Kathy, Kathy Hilton hung out with, you know, Don Rickles used to hang out. Like this is old hot love course, Kathy Hilton hung out with Don Rickles. Of course she did. Okay. Anyway, and I want to talk about, so here I am. Here's my NEPO baby.

Here is Brandon. My triumph of return to the runway happened last night, yesterday, at the Hyatt Regency for Cresby High School, the Alborg Catholic High School. Last time I modeled a fashion show, like a real fashion show, which wasn't real fun, was the Louisville one, which is the all-girl high school, when I was, you know, not even 18 or 17 when I did that. And it was a big deal.

And so I said to him, I go, there's like three things I care about you doing at the high school. One is that you go on chiroch, which is a three day rule, just retreat. The next is that we do this modeling thing. And the third is, at the Mother's Day Mass, that you, say, I wanna speak about my mom after. Oh, and if they do that?

Mother's Day. But when you're a senior, when you're a senior though, go to this mass, and only like a handful of boys do it. But I've gone in the previous years that I've cried and I've been like, you have got tell me that you do this speech for him. No, I'm absolutely not going to write the speech.

He's a good writer. He's a good writer. I would write the speech. I would. No. Anyway, so we modeled the boys were tuxes and suits and I found a great dress. It's a little weird to see him like he looks old. I know and here we are backstage.

I think it was like a little kid three minutes ago. We had so much fun and his cousins came. That's sweet. And his sister McKenzie and my sister came and then I had a couple girlfriends there and they were all we had a great table at the end of the runway and they were like hyping them up and he was really hamming it up. So, you know, look, when he becomes a top model,

there you go, he's gonna have to say, I got my start. Mm-hmm. Because my mom's a podcaster. Yeah. And she talked about it on Juicy Scoot. Yeah. And she made sure That I signed up to do the modeling

And it's cheating forever change my life forever change my life. Yes, this this this no This is really fun young moms if this is if you ever at a school or Or you want to do something like this. It's like it's a Southern California thing I don't know. I think just one person starts it and then it's the tradition. And we have like the shopping, so like the vendors came, you know, say that's like shopping before. I think they make some money off of it,

who knows how much, but it is a really fun thing to do for girls too. Girls boys, co-ed, whatever. Have a little modeling show with their parent, at least the seniors can model with their parent, the other kids, whatever. I think it's so fun. It is a lot of work for the people that put it together.

I just showed up and then gave my thoughts afterwards, though I'm not volunteering to ever help. So I'm like, on that mother you hate. But I did participate. I don't think I could have my kids. I don't think my kids would do it. No, there were other- I think my son would, my kids would do it. No, there were other- I think my son would, but my daughters would be-

No, there were other moms that were like- At least do not do that. That were there that was like, I couldn't get my kid to do it. I go, that's totally fine. Your kid is like playing football. It doesn't matter. Like, I just, this is something that I'm impressed.

I said, would you do it? And he said yes. And then we like really hammed it up. And then we closed the show. And I did like a little, we did a little bow at the end. I was like, listen, we can do what we want. We we closed the show and I did like a little we did a little bow at the end. I was like listen we can do what we want we're closing the show. So that was really fun moving on. Okay a little more about Housewives Beverly Hills before we end this. How are you feeling about the season? Give me your thoughts of where we're at. What about Denise Richards? Oh my god what

was happening? What was happening? That? Wow. You you know, well, at least she's got eyes. She think they drove her around a couple times around the block before high buzzed whatever, when she got out of the van with or the car with Camille. Because I think she was already like, should we go to a random hour? Yeah, I feel like she was in that car a long time and then like overshot it.

Yeah, you know, I think, yes, I think they came from Malibu. Yes, two in Sino. That's a solid hour. That's a solid hour. And I think they may have provided alcohol, maybe not, maybe they brought it. Yeah. And they were like, go ahead, you know,

and she's nervous. She was probably nervous. Probably nervous. And when people are nervous, they drink more. And you're going to be on camera and you're nervous about seeing people. And they're like, I've seen. And yeah. And so I think she was just really buzzed.

I just think she had way too much. Castle Mingle. What's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what 's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the one that's like the Blanco. No, she likes the darker one. What's it called a nail? I don't know. No, there's I'll saw it said there's show the day. She always says that cos I mean guys that I'm on the rocks and

But when when it was pretty I mean I had Erica was pretty good because she's like what's you know? Show Erica you Workie come on work grown-. Are we going to do this? And I mean, I'm like, oh, I cannot wait for this week of like what the fuck happened. And then, yeah, then Kyle's there. And then they have the pot thing. And of course, Kyle, you know, reveals to Morgan, like, well, everyone's gonna be shitting for not drinking, but we're having like this, you know, TCH dinner or whatever it is. And then Morgan's white's like,

well, if you don't want a partake, why don't you just not partake? Why do you have to do it? And she's like, you think? She knew who, she's all giddy. She knew know leather Tuscanero was from BAM? Yes, we talked about this. She looks just like her. From Happy Days. She really does. Yes, Morgan Wade is leather Tuscanero who is reoccurating a chore. On Stumbling in the 70s duet store.

That's right. That's right. She looks just like her. She kinda does. Yeah. And so they get another, she gets a tattoo. And a lot of people are questioning sequence of events. Now we know that on reality show,

sometimes they have to redo a scene. So she comes home, apparently, from getting, or from hanging with her friend, Morgan, where she's absolutely giddy. Like the memes that are like, I just want someone to look at me, the way Kyle looks at Morgan. Like that's my goal.

And she gets this little star thing on her pelvic area. And she comes home to Mo. And he's like, love beam. What did you do? You know what? And she's like, and she pulls it down and shows it. And I remember thinking, wait a minute. Now I've never had a tattoo.

You mean either. But don't aren't you supposed to have the lotion and the saram wrap on it for like a day? For a little bit. And it was dry as a bone and out there. So do I think she put on the Gucci sweater and you know, redid the scene for when Moe came home for dramatic effect to look like I just left my friend.

Maybe. And now I'm annoyed with my husband who's like, well, I hope I get to see that tattoo sometime. And she's like, yeah, whatever. Something that I think people also forget. Remember last year or the, you know, a year from the time that this was filmed. Remember her best friend died by suicide? Yes. She's talking about that in social media.

She has a lot to do with her annoyance with, though, not be sensitive. That's what people are saying. There's people putting this out. So it's not me. So I don't care or call who did it. But I saw it online where they think I really think that that affected her a lot. And because she said she suffers from anxiety and stuff, and this was her dear friend who died by suicide. And so she was like, people think that maybe he just wasn't as sensitive.

Think of it. Like someone like Liz. Yeah. They're the witness to your whole life, right? As her best friend was. Right. And the loss of that is massive. And if your partner is kind of blowing,

maybe he's like high and he's all about his reality show. Yeah. That could be the last straw. Like, you know what, of all the things that I've done to support you, that what I really need is for you to be here now. And I also think the added element of like, Morgan's in her life, she's an outsider.

Right. You know, all the people in Kyle's life maybe have heard all the stories about her sister and her husband. And it's kind of great when someone new has a new perspective. Where they're like, wait, let's go back to that. What happened with your sister? Like, you put them in? And it also happened from a different generation. Yes.

Because a different generation, like, we're, you know, she and I, Kyle and I are Gen X. Morgan is technically Gen Z. Yes. And they really do have a different perspective on life. They're, I mean, in lots of ways, they have such a better perspective. And they're, I believe they're nicer.

Like Gen X, we are the same bitchy girls that we were when Heather's the movie was written. And we are exactly like, if you were that, it's very rare. You don't really mature. We're still like, I'm like, I've got that girl. It's a little bit like that, which is why I think housewives and everything is the way it is and why I think it's sort of even more fascinating when someone younger starts watching it, because they're like, oh my God. Yes. And I just feel like we're just exactly the same as we,

which isn't a great thing to say. But it's because the system that we were all raised in, right? And so if you have a younger perspective, it's my fresh, who's like, I cannot believe you went through that. You're gonna be like, oh my God, I wanna be around you even more. Yeah. So I think that that's another added element

that sometimes people kind of forget about too. Yeah, it's, I'm thoroughly enjoying it. What do you think of the new girl? She's coming in hot. She's coming in a little hot. Yeah, she's a little bit. It's a lot. Yeah, I don't know her name.

I like someone to just kind of ease in. Yeah, like she's like, I gotta make my, I gotta be obnoxious and make my mark. I don't like this new trend of like just throwing someone in and we're not learning about their personal story. Yeah, just a friend of Kyle's. They just show up. And like, wait, wait, what?

And then Garcelle had a great moment in her interviews where she was like, the only time I think about jewelry is that Doreet still had hers after the robbery. But by the way, what do you think happened about my makeup? That was so good. Or people high-fiving. To someone close the door and just high-fible wall,

or they like, we got it. I mean, I know people that have worked on those day long things, you know, they don't go to their house in case you didn't know, they go to go to their house in case you didn't know. They go to a studio and they put the backdrop of your house. So you're all at the studio timed. Yeah, really alone. So that's what's up.

So other stuff to do so that other people don't see you, but they can be really, really tedious, really, really long. And I think they asked you lots of questions, but I also think they help and produce you. Yeah. But I think this was all Garth's out. It was good. And well, we'll see what jewelry do you have left over?

And how is it that they didn't take your ring? If they had you walk to the closet and gather up the bags and a bag sheet or a comforter and all this stuff, did you just take your diamonds and go like this? Did she did? I don't know. Maybe she did. Maybe the minute they came in, she managed to go like this and just throw it

on the ground or something. I would think if there was an element of that story, and I was like, I woke up and there were people in my room, you know, and they're like, get on the ground. And I managed to go like this and throw it on the ground in the dark, showed them everything else. That would be the story I would be telling on camera

and be telling everybody when I'm at extra or, you know, access Hollywood. I would be like, so the one thing I managed to save was my wedding ring. It was blessed and everything. And I turned it around or I threw it on the ground or they, or got it was so weird, they didn't even ask about it. Yeah.

Or I put it, I always put it in my nightstand. They only went to the closet. I think everyone's been afraid to ask questions because they don't want to upset her. But I think that's the great thing about some of these confessionals is that it does start to pull out questions, which can make other scenes later. And so full.

And you know, providing, you know, everything Greta has told us is 100% true and she was really scared for her life or her children's life and everything, which is fucking horrific. So if anybody was questioning my truth, now some people say ignore these people, ignore just like people say to me,

ignore don't give them any light I don't know. I'd want to be like you're quite I'd be like Garsell like especially the reunion What what jewelry you're talking about specifically that you remember me having before the surgery surgery before the Proper the robbery and after yeah, which ones and if can't name them, then you were just being a bitch. And then she would go, it's your wedding ring. And then I could say, I was to read, okay, I'm really glad you asked that. I had, he just ever asked. They went right to.

I see if you were to read, I wouldn't even go to that place. I would go, what would you go? What would you go? For all of you that are, you know, having questions with regard to the robbery, this is what happened. You get in front of it. Yeah. Don't wait for someone else a year and a half

down the line to float a question like that. But what if Garcell said that? And there isn't a specific ring or anything. She just saw that she had jewelry after, which could be fake, which could be stuff that was somewhere else. And never bother to ask to read like, wait, how did you get away with keeping your watch in your ring when they're robbed?

And then she could have said, you know what? Or I put it in a drawer and we went only to the safe and to the da da da da da da. And then they were gone. Thank God. Or I threw a through to the ground when they weren't looking. Or I never had it on, or whatever. It's in a different... By the way, this is all fair game. If this happened to you and me, maybe we wouldn't be asking all these questions.

It's fair game when you're on a television show. And it's covered on the show. Yes. They have to address it at the reunion if they don't do it before that. This is kind of juicy, pretty woman. The real story of pretty woman. I didn't know this, so you got to tell me. The real script, she just revealed it, because she's got a Netflix show coming out that looks really juicy like the end of the world, or something. I don't know. It looks good. Anyway, she said it was going to be a much darker film called 3000, which was the price of Vivian to spend the night with Edward.

Well, that was what you got for the week. By the way, I saw someone talk about pretty woman saying, why will no one bring up the fact that she's getting $100 an hour, $300 for the night, and then he goes, I'll give you $3,000 for the week, which if you do the math, takes her down to $21 an hour. Oh my lord. Anyway, so this said, Vivian was a drug addict and the movie ended with the original script with him leaving her in a side street throwing the money at her and driving away. And I got the part in that movie and I felt really proud.

But when the production company folded and the film disappeared, I was crushed. But then Disney picked it up, which seemed unlikely, and then they made it funny. And there was one producer that stayed with the script, and then it went to Disney, and I went to Disney. Are they gonna animate it? How's this a Disney movie? So anyway, that's where they made it lighter and cute. But it still is.

Well, I would talk about it. We all watched it in the 90s, and because she got to go shopping, we all were like, it became our favorite movie. But we have to remember that she and the roommate would wake up at eight at nine at nine and put on the boots with the zipper off. And have to go suck dirty decks that they met with guys in the car, even though she was like, you don't want to think about that, but that's what she was doing. And she gave him a VJ the first night at the hotel. Like she got all prepared.

She put down her pillow. Like she did it. And I mean, she was a street hooker. The movie makes so no sense at all. But it's classic. It's a classic and it made it the star. I love it. All right, Kate, Talonboat's coming up on your show. Okay, reality life with Kate Casey podcasts,

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She is the woman who dated the bad surgeon. Oh, awesome. Yeah. So we're gonna go into that. And I'm covering a murder in Boston, which is a great documentary series on HBO about a pregnant woman that was killed by her husband for insurance money,

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