Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - The Swans, Taylor Swift, Jay Z’s Secret with Brandy and Julie

Episode Date: February 8, 2024

Brandy Howard, Julie Goldman and I talk the Grammys. We get into Taylor’s “snubbing” of Celine. Taylor and Lana Del Rey are good friends in spite of Skims. Kanye’s wife is cold as she goes nude under a see through rain coat in public. Felicity Huffman speaks on having no faith in her daughter. I explain the college application process post scandal. Then we get into Feud: Capote vs. The Swans on Hulu. We ask why is it that certain gay men have gotten away with being horrible to their female friends throughout American History? Only Fans stickers promoting your mom is no longer allowed in the drop off line. Jussie Smollett is still a whiny liar. Candace of Real Housewives of Potomac’s defamation suit brought against her by Michael Darby is dismissed. Kandi is not returning to RHOA and we believe it was her choice this time. Enjoy the scoops and the laughs!  Go to https://StoryWorth.com/juicy to save $10 on your first purchase! Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hannah McDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have your two favorite gals, Brandy Howard, Julie Goldman. Welcome back to the Juicy Scoop headquarters. And how are you? The ever-changing Juicy Scoop headquarters. And how are you? The ever-changing Juicy Scoop headquarters. It just gets more chic, more exciting.

Thank you. I really, I love this particular studio. I am here because I'm trying to step it up a notch, have the most efficient show possible. But of course, a lot of people still say I just pronounce words and why don't I get a speech therapist? And I just wanna say, I did go to speech therapy. When I was like four or five or even younger,

I couldn't say spoon. So it did work cause I can say spoon now. But- What was our issue? Do we have a lisp? I don't know. My mom just was like, well, part of it was that I was the youngest of five, and so I didn't have to talk because they did everything for me. So I would just point

and grunt. And so my mom, I think she thought I couldn't talk, but I actually could. I just, you know, was like, why? And then I started to talk and nobody really realized that I said words and things incorrectly until this podcast and somewhere in my age, whoo, they really like to point it out. And listen, I'm gonna tell you right now, it's not gonna get any better. I'm not looking to improve that part of my life.

I don't know what they want. I don't know what they want. I don't know what they want. What do they want? I'm not looking to improve that part of my life. I don't know what they want. I don't know what they want. I don't know what they want. What do they want? I think it's they love the podcast so much, but this one thing bothers them and triggers them and they're like, why don't you fix it?

And I go, because I don't have to. No. I'm doing great. You have to learn to fall in love with it. I fidget all the time people I know, and I'll have to apologize like, sorry, I'm fidgeting. And it's like, learn to love it. This is who you are.

Okay? This is who you are. This is who you are. Okay? If you don't like it, then just go somewhere else. Lucky for you, there is one or two other podcasts in the world that you couldn't enjoy. Just a couple.

Just a couple. Not too many. No, no. Speaking of which, a juicy scooper, I will post this on my Instagram and tag her because I don't have it in front of me. She is making these great sweatshirts and for the Super Bowl and it is Go Taylor's Boyfriend.

I love it, I love it, I love it. I have, you know, for me personally, I don't even follow football, I don't follow sports, I know it's shocking. However, I am so invested in Taylor's Boyfriend. Now I am into it, I am't even follow football. I don't follow sports. I know that's shocking. However, I am so invested in Taylor's boyfriend. Now, I am into it. I am into their love. I am into the entire thing.

People need to get into it. She is the queen. Absolutely. And I just did an interview with Harvey Levin about Taylor and Travis and what I think their future is. He has a new show called like TMZ Investigates. Yeah. And this is coming out,

I don't know in the next couple of days, I just did it for free by the way. Did you do like the Kanye? Did you do the Kanye or you did the Taylor Swift? I did Taylor Swift. Okay, because they do. I know I could have done Kanye too. And they do Britney.

Hopefully they'll bring me on all the time. Hopefully I'm happy to do it for free. For free because that's the way this works. It's an interview and it's publicity. Guess what, it all works out. But I guess I was talking about on my Patreon, HeatherRentall.net, Patreon. And I was talking about how Brittany Mahon always gets a lot of crap.

People think she's a rude bitch or whatever. And I referred to her, I go, I guess she's married to Taylor's boyfriend's friend. Good one. Just Patrick Mahomes, that's fine. He's like three times Super Bowl champ. He and Kels here, Travis Kels here. Are they're like buddies?

They like hang out and talk in a locker room or whatever. Yeah, because Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback. Oh, okay. So he's like the leader of the team. Yeah, that's nice. Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback. Oh, okay. So he's like the leader of the team. Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. Anyway, so let's get into a couple of Grammy news. I do want to say it for everyone from California,

including yourself, I'm going to root for the Niners because I'm born and raised in California. And I have been born and raised in California and I am not going to root for them. I'm going to go for the Taylor Swift. Because I'm going to go for the Taylor Swift because not because of for them. I'm gonna go for Taylor Swift. Because I'm gonna go for the Taylor Swift because not because of Taylor, because I'm gonna be rooting for the boy mom,

which is Mrs. Kelsey. She is a boy mom of two. Or perhaps the hottest guy. And I have, but I'm not saying it's not necessarily, it's about, I want her to enjoy another Super Bowl win. But what about the moms of the Nine Hours guys? All the other boys, because they're all men. Oh, you're right.

The moms are all of all men. But you're right. I think you mean the guba-hottest boy, Mom. I think he has the best looking vibes. You're feeling the drama because of Taylor and drama. Yes, I'm feeling it. Honestly, the truth is, I don't care who wins. I think it'll be a really fun game.

I've enjoyed this time. I've enjoyed that little girls are watching the game with their dads. I enjoy that people are into it. I don't understand anybody that's weird and not happy and like angry about it, very strange. It's all good. It's not affecting anything.

I think she's the most down to earth football girlfriend. I mean, I remember, would you remember when, wait, Kim was dating, what's this, Reggie? No, Reggie Miller? No. Oh, Reggie. Kim Kardashian. Yeah, Reggie Bush.

Yes, she was dating Reggie Bush. What about Jessica Simpson? That was the worst. And when they won, you know, I remember Chris and Kim ran out on the field first, you know? So, look, I mean, those were like the days. And when he just won this last week, she, you know, hugged and kissed him and then was like, go be with your brother, go with be with your teammates.

She stood back. The brother, by the way, Travis Kelsey is not on the team, but Heather's not concerned about the boy-mom of him. But he's on another team, right? Who didn't get into the Super Bowl. Oh, also, and he has daughters. I made a mistake recently, and I said, I predict that Travis will have boys.

No, Travis will have daughters. That's what I said. Let's hope so. Travis will have daughters, and then the mom will be like, I don't know what to do with girls like the grandma. But then they said, no, she already has granddaughters. So now I go back and I think they'll have one of each. Yeah.

I do think they'll have a daughter though. Who doesn't want to watch? Aren't we excited to watch these guys treating these girls nicely? Yes. Aren't we, isn't that what we want to see? Big, these big football players being nice to the girlfriend. That guy goes to her concerts, he does nothing,

but I mean, we don't know what happens behind the scenes. But it seems like he's super nice, he treats her well. This is what we want. We don't want to see the elevator footage. No! We don't want no more elevator footage of people treating their wives and girlfriends horribly, please. Exactly, he's not murdering dogs.

I do want to say, this happened with Jessica Simpson and Tony Romo. Yes. And it was like, she's ruining, she's put a crush on the Cowboys, and Jessica Simpson's gorgeous and in the stands and from Texas, and it's the Cowboys. And it's like, I mean, she was dragged to hell and back.

Isn't it weird? You think she's bitter now? Just kinda how like, Lala on Varner Pump is like, I didn't get the love. When my fiance cheated on me, I didn't get the adoration and the love like Ariana. Do you think at one point Jessica Simpson remembers that she dated Tony and didn't get,

and didn't get the love? That is the name of her one woman show, of Jessica Simpson remembers. I don't know if you know that, but I'm sure she does remember. Who would remember? She's like, you know what, this is what happened, exactly what happened to her though. Or is she happy that it's not happening to Taylor?

Like, good, I'm glad I paved the way. But it is happening to Taylor. What is it? I walked so you could run. Yeah. You stand on my shoulder at the football game, ha-da-wa. She, but it is happening to Taylor.

She's getting so much hate. Well, they can't even have a little hate for this. Okay. When she, let's talk about the Grammys. So she wins the album of the year. Oh, did she? And she's so thrilled and she comes up and Celine came out with her son, which was very nice.

I mean, he has a nice short haircut because I always remember when he was a boy that looked like, you know, like he was Tarzan or something in long hair and people were freaked out that he had long hair. Anyway, I thought he had two sons. Did she have two sons? Yes. They had twins after him.

Oh, okay. This is the oldest boy. Okay. So anyway, he came out and scored at her and, you know, of course she's suffering from stiff person syndrome and I guess there's no cure or it's not going to be better. So we don't know when she'll perform again though she looked and sounded good and but so then Taylor wins she's so so excited she's hugging everybody and she just took the award from Celine and she didn't acknowledge Celine prior to that Miley did a great acknowledgement to her presenter which was Mariah Carey and so she

got a lot of shit for it. She sends, I'm sure, has come up to an apologizer. We see them hanging here backstage. Of course, people want to find something wrong with her because there's so little that you can find wrong with Taylor. But I would say, I'm sure Celine didn't care. And it's, God, just give someone a moment. Like, you can't always be thinking about everybody in every moment, in every second. Like, let just give someone a moment. Like you can't always be thinking about everybody

at every moment, at every second. Like, let me just have a moment. And I just knew I'd already wasted so much time getting up there that I took the thing and wanted to get right to my speech. I did see that moment. And for my perception anyway, there was so much happening. That's what, yeah.

And she was distracted, like something was going on. And then she took it, and then it sort of seemed like she had to just keep going. It didn't seem like a snub like, oh, thank you. It just seemed like- There's a new queen in town. Yeah, no, I totally agree. And Trevor Noah did tell them in his monologue,

you need to take two minutes, we're not doing 10 minute speech. I mean, that was like a thing in this full comedy monologue to make it quick. I didn't think it seemed a thing in this full comedy monologue to make it quick. I didn't think it seemed, and maybe this moment could have happened even prior. Bitch knew she was winning. And she knew Celine Dion was giving it to her. Yeah, what do you think about the whole Jay-Z and Blue Ivy,

and what he said about Beyoncé being that she's won the most awards but still hasn't won for the album. Very reminiscent of Kanye being like, I'm gonna let you have your award. You know, I think kind of a dis on Taylor since she won. And she's won four times. Like, why do you have to say that? First of all, I do want to say,

was that blue Ivy next to Jay-Z? Yeah, she's 12. She looked so cute. I didn't even know that that was her because he never really addressed her, even though that's her mother that he was talking about. I thought it was weird. I was like, maybe that's not blue ivy, but I loved,

I thought she looked so cute, whoever that girl was. I was like, well, that little girl is just adorable. And I only know this from TMZ and I wanna thank Harvey Levin personally because that is my favorite show on TV, Heather. It's the only reason I keep cable. It's literally so funny. It's really, it is my favorite show on TV, Heather. It's the only reason I keep cable. It's literally so funny. It's really, it is a solid show, comes on every day.

I'm like, here's my sitcom, I'm gonna watch this now. It's toxic masculinity. It's so funny. I love that show. So they played this moment. You know, I thought that it was Jay-Z is living his best ozempic life and looks better than ever, which I was thrilled about.

I thought he- He had 50, getting the shots together. Yeah, getting the shots together. I thought it was, now I honestly didn't mind. I think that Beyonce has lost to Adelle, to Taylor Swift. But then she did lose to Beck, which I do think might not be the move. And the Grammys, like the Academy Awards, like the Emmys,

I mean, they do, it does start getting very political. And I do feel like Beyonce has, I don't think she's won the right things, quite frankly. So I wasn't even mad at her. I was like, you wanna give him a lifetime achievement award and he wants to go up there and talk about his wife in a respectful way. I was like, OK.

Also, you know what I just realized? I think that was a deliberate move, because there's been some rumblings in all the stuff that's come out about P. Diddy and men and boys and what goes down with the Cat Williams conversation. And I saw some rumors about Jay-Z and what may have really been the fight about that in the elevator with her sister.

Well, wasn't Becky with the good hair? Maybe it wasn't Becky with the good hair. Maybe it was Brad with the good hair. Well, then slow clap. And now you really need album of the year, honey. You really need album of the year if it's Brad with the good hair. OK. What? On all of this. All rumored, all rumored. But I'm just wondering if he took this moment that there is a real love and there's a real family there,

but kind of took the moment to be like, again, what a great husband, just like when she showed her belly with, and Kanye was normal at the time and he jumped on Jay-Z is like, that's your sperm, man. You had a fast swimmer, you made that baby happen. You know, like that kind of, I love that, I love their love. Good dad husband moment.

They've been through a lot and I do really, really do love Beyonce. I thought it was nice. I was fine with it. I'm like, you know, I really did like it. I really did. The other drama was that, I guess in Trevor Noah's monologue,

he mentioned how Universal Music Group, who represents Taylor Swift and Drake. Now, Heather, we don't do TikTok, but we know you're a TikTok sensation. Yes. I don't use a lot of music though. Which is probably why some of mine didn't get a lot of hits, but now I'm happy because I don't have to,

those aren't, I don't have some million dollar thing, million view thing that's now been taken down, right? So does that mean every video that you use that music now has to be taken down? Yeah, like YouTube. Oh my God. Well, I'm so glad I didn't use the music. So all those dance videos and everything where it's like.

Oh, now I don't know if the past ones have to be removed, but no more videos utilizing, but maybe they do. Yeah. And it's, and because what, TikTok wouldn't make a deal with Universal. And that's a lot of they do. Yeah. And it's, I don't know the answer. Yeah. Because what, TikTok wouldn't make a deal with you. And that's a lot of huge artists. Yeah. And then, but Trevor Noah did say, come on, TikTok,

you're not supposed to be ripping off the artist. That's for Spotify. Yeah. And that's a pretty good joke. I thought that was strong. But, yeah, I mean, it's going to be a bloat at TikTok, I think. Because, I mean, it's very alone. I think that's why I enjoy TikTok sometimes more

than going on reels, is because there is so much music and I get sucked in when I see, you know, I love a soldier coming home. Two, I'm coming home, coming home. Is that a universal art of this? All the world, I'm coming home. Or the one that's like the red, white, and blue one, you know. That's Toby Keith probably just died.

And wait, how did he die? Toby Keith just died? Yes, he died Tuesday. But how did he die of? He died of cancer. Oh, wow. And he died Tuesday. How about the ones?

And he sings that, Heather. How about the ones were there? I hope they don't have to take that one, yeah. Where they're blind and then they see with the glasses, you know, or they're colorblind. And then they see color for the first time. Also, baby with the first- Baby with hearing?

Baby with hearing? Wait, little kid, little boy, little tough boy who gets his first puppy and cries. Crying! How about waking up your mom, The little tough boy who gets his first puppy and cries. Crying! Ugh! How about waking up your mom, how about mom slash grandma getting a puppy

because the other one died? Try not to cry that one. Better one, it's a six year old dad. Saw that. Saw it when they brought it in the box and he's sitting on the couch, saw it, love it. I literally thought you guys were gonna talk about like sexy teenagers dancing to Drake. But no. I'm coming home. Apparently you guys were gonna talk about like sexy teenagers dancing to Drake But no

Soldiers coming home and then the dog sees them also female soldiers I'm big on a big female. I have get a lot of female soldiers At a pep rally the dog beat reunitation forget other what did remind me mom hidden when you're singing at a pep rally. The dog beat reunitation. Forget it. No Heather, I did remind me. Mom hid it when you were singing. Wait, still your mom hid it as a mascot at a pep rally.

Ooh, surprising kids. How about mom or dad's surprising kid in the elementary school for bringing your parents to school day? I feel really sorry for the soldier that comes home and their family didn't plan on filming it and didn't surprise. Like maybe it's a surprise, but maybe it wasn't.

One of them was just like, okay, great. So you're coming at this time, great. I'm so excited to see you. And then like a 12 year old was like, mom, why didn't you tell me that, you know, my brother John who was 20 was coming home. Like I could have had a million views. Like we should have surprised mom, you're so stupid dad.

Or they come home and they're like, I'm home and nothing. And she's like, oh, I thought you were coming home next Saturday. Well, I would have liked to have known. Look at this house. It's a mess. Bill, did you know that Timmy was coming home a week early? God damn it.

I made your room a sewing room. We put our treadmill in there. Give us time to get it out. We have an exchange student. They don't have another place to go. Yeah. Sorry. You're going to sleep on the couch.

You're used to it. You slept on a cot and in Kuwait. Where were you? Lucy's coming home, you guys. I don't know. All the world I'm coming home. Oh, yeah. It reminds me that you're in my hero awaits. Yes. Da, da, da, da, yeah. It reminds me that you're in my hero awaits.

Yes. This is it. I hope they don't take it from me listing out a little bit on YouTube. Wait, Heather, YouTube don't get mad. Why did you not do any Celine Dion for the people? I know you've got a Celine Dion. It's been so long, but I used to do a Celine bit. Didn't you do it with fortune?

We did, no, no, not with fortune. We did it guy and I did it. Like a vintage Chelsea lately. No, no, maybe Chelsea like, but vintage, like he was Renee, rest of peace. And I was Celine. And I was like, oh, hello. You know, what would I say?

Let me see what I used to do. You know, she like Adele like to do like stand up in between songs, you know? So she thought she was real funny, you know? And she was like, whoa, Maronné, he's made everything. And when I met him when I was 12, I didn't know he'd be the love of my life. And I was like, what? Exactly.

But anyway, we love her. Okay, a lot of people were not into this look by Doja Cat and she had all these tattoos, but they said they are not all real. Also, her nips were showing if they are her nips. And also she went with a see-through skirt with a bush underneath. You know, I did see, I don't know where I saw it,

but there's dresses that make the bush. Oh, it's hard to believe she's got a bush, but if she does, I'm here for it. But I have to say, all my predictions have come true. I said the new fashion would either be, first, I said it would be vagina cleavage, which is where the vagina meets your thigh, that little line. Like from like the Frankie B days? No, no, the thigh, not the top. There's top vagina cleavage, which is the bone. Then there's the side, which they're making pants like that now with full cutouts where you get the

side of your vag, meaning thigh. I've predicted that, but cleavage, that's been around for years. And now it is full Bush through a see-through. I mean, this year was all about see-through dresses. It was all about wearing a bikini cover-up on the red carpet. And now, don't even wear the bikini. Just wear the sheer thing to get the attention. And she got it. But I guess the tattoo on her forehead is fake.

Do you think this is a fake bush? She doesn't strike me as somebody who would have a bush. Yes, I do because it's a way to be controversial like your vagina's out, but it's not really because she wore a little G string for, what do you call it? There's a Jewish word for it. A Bircham, not a Bircham.

Oh, like her, you mean like a Shadal? There's a Jewish word for it. A Bircham? Bircham? Not a Bircham. Oh, like her. You mean like a Shadal? There is a, isn't there a Jewish pubic wig? What's that fake wig? A merkin? Yes. I didn't realize that that was a Jewish thing.

Now, she's a young girl and the young girls like to have hair. That's coming back? Yeah. I'm fully bald and it's lasered and it's just a done deal. Yeah, just fine with it. Of course you should be. But I don't mind seeing her bush. You know what I wonder if, as women get more and more plastic surgery and appear to be younger,

I remember working on the Keenah and Wayne show. And he had a joke where he said, no matter how good a girl looks, he knew how old they were because they had the shot on their arm that was a vaccination that left a little scar. And it meant that today you would definitely be over 60-something because I don't have it. My mom has it. The tuberculosis. I think that's where it's a little red. It was a badge of like, don't try to lie because we know you got that shot. So now I wonder if women of a certain age

that went through the laser period and are bald forever trying to pass themselves off as younger women, guys will be like, I know you're not that young because you're laser down there and the new look is full book. Yeah, well, I think the guys. They eyebrow. She did too. She did the pencil brow here too. Oh, she's giving playboy. Although the playboy one was more like that circle.

It's just the thinness. Yeah, the thinness. And it's hard to get that back. I hope that's not real. I never do that. I mean, when you tweeze those out, you can't get them back. But that's also a giveaway of like a 90s person. What did you think of Miley cosplaying Jane Fonda's hair from nine to five? I feel like she, I personally kind of like her cookie stuff. I love her. I love her.

Her body is banging. I love that she added the extra words to the song, you know, where she did the, when she sang flowers, she was like, you know, she's like going through the song and she's like, you know, before she did it, I'm by myself, she says like, we broke up, I did that. I did that. And then she's like, and I just want to grab me.

I can bite myself with the hole. And then everyone went crazy, and I just want to grab me. I can, my muscles are whole. And then everyone went crazy, including Taylor who supports everybody. Ooh, I wanted to say this about Taylor. She brought Lana Del Rey on the red carpet. I guess do they have a song that they collaborated or are they just friends? I don't, I think Taylor Swift has,

they have the same producer, the guy from Fun. And I feel like Taylor Swift has really gotten heavily influenced by Lana Del Rey, and I think it's been very obvious certainly since 2020 on ever fucking more and green in all those albums. I think it was just a tribute because of that. I didn't know they ever collaborated if they did. It was, I don't think, a big hit. So they came on the red carpet together. She fixed her hair. She, there's videos of Taylor being like a really good friend. Like I have lipstick, they're touching each other like anybody else going to a party.

And, Lana Del Rey also has a huge campaign, Valentine's campaign with Skims. Which is Kim Kardashian's company, which Kim was a real bitch to Taylor. And really upset Taylor, cause she spread lies about Taylor with- Kanya. With Kanya and it was very devastating to Taylor

to wake up and have people be like, you're a liar, you're a piece of shit, you know, and she went away for a year and it really affected her. It's years later, but you know, Taylor is classy enough not to remind the world that often of what a piece of shit Kim was to her in manipulating that. And her friend Lana had a big opportunity and she was like, go for it. I'm not going to lose a friend over you taking an opportunity to get this, let

Kim pay you millions. And also, Lana Del Rey sang her song at the engagement of Kanye and Kim. They played the song, you know, we used to, will you still love me when I'm no longer young and beautiful? And then she sang it at the wedding. So there is a history there with Kim as well. And so I do respect that as a Hollywood friendship that is going to have to transcend her being friends with other people that have done Taylor wrong. Yeah. Something we can all learn from.

I think we can. And they did pre, it did predate, or did it. I guess it did not predate that wedding. I mean, I thought that really truly did feel, regardless if they have ever one song together, that Taylor needed and it was necessary for her to acknowledge the influence that Lana Del Rey has had on her music because it is enormous and it is obvious to big Taylor fans.

And so I thought that was a cool move. I'm not like that in the Lana Del Rey, but whatever. I mean, I like her music, but this is a photo TMC back grid. Kanye, it's raining in LA. It's been traumatic. It's been going on for almost two days. So traumatic, you guys. And there is it is very traumatic for certain people.

There are mudslides and there are leaks and stuff yeah it's dramatic for me walking in here okay I was just like oh my god it's going on I had water blow through the window you did that is scary it is scary drops of water it was bubbling blowing water okay through the window terrifying beach towel on anyway Kanye is wearing a weird tarp and he's wearing his black nylon mask all over his head and his boots. But Bianca is just wearing a poncho rain thing

with nothing underneath. She can't have underwear. She can't have sweats. She can't full vag out, full nip in plastic to avoid being rained on. Is he that much? I don't, I just don't even understand. Is he that much of a Svangali?

Is he that, is he that Trumpy over her? I don't understand it. No, they're Trumpy. They're doing, they're doing BDSM. I mean, they're doing like dominant submissive, sexual behavior in kink. I have wanted to make Julie put a latex mask and make me cream of wheat.

I have asked her. I'm currently not making her call me sir or master, but when the cream... There's certain things that I'll do and there's certain things that I won't. When the cream of wheat is made. What is a cream of wheat? Now, he made her put on a latex black latex skin tight latex.

You know what I mean? That's like putting a black condom over your face. It's so tight. She's in like pasties and a thong and she's making cream of wheat. Oh, that's when she was making the cream of wheat. Making the cream of wheat. Oh, okay. With a such.

And it's like, it's hot over the stove. The mask is on. I mean, and it gets into it. Yes. And it's like, it's hot over the stove. The mask is on. I mean, and it gets into a huge mess. I still stand by my thing. We won't know for years until she decides to go on a podcast or save it for her own iHeart podcast. Where she will reveal that she was in fact paid. I 100% think she's getting paid.

I think she's getting paid weekly under the table. It's getting sent to Australia to her family. And that's the only reason why they are not freaking out. Because they're like, she's like, I could be doing only fans or I could be doing this, making this change. And I'm gonna have a great story after. I'm not being hurt.

I'm okay. I have time off alone. We don't even have sex. He is a weirdo, but I'm doing have a great story after. I'm not being hurt. I'm okay. I have time off alone. We don't even have sex. He is a weirdo, but I'm doing it for the money. That is what I think. I do not think this is a couple in love. But you don't think they have sex. I don't think they have sex

and I don't think they're a couple of love. I think it's a total transaction she's getting paid. Well, according to 50 Shades of Grey, when you sign the BDSM agreement, you do get paid. Even if you do are forced to make love, as one would call it in a BDSM agreement, you do get paid. Even if you do are forced to make love, as one would call it in a BDSM, to the person. So even if they are- Even though you're like their slave, this slave gets paid.

You get paid. Yeah. In the contract, you get like a monetary compensation, but yeah, you are a sex slave. You're a sex slave. So this does give me sex slave vibes. Yes, that's what they're trying to portray, but I think on top of it, yes, that she is not in a bad place, that she is aware that this is what is going on. This is his... It's performance art. This is his era of there was the Jesus era

and the church era, and now there was the fashion era, and now there's this era. But no, is he having sex at all? Do you think? With anyone? Maybe with Brad and the good hair. I don't know. I don't know.

Cat Williams would know. Ask him. I'm gonna choose to think that. I'm gonna choose to think what you're saying, that she's just getting paid. I mean, I go to sleep better at night. I go to sleep better at night thinking that, but I truly believe it too.

I hope that they are doing it though, because- You hope they're having sex. Yeah, I hope she's slightly, a lot of times in BDSM relationships. I think he needs to go on the O, I'm gonna be honest. Cause he's packed on a few of these. Well, and he did do, he did do lipo, and that's what got him addicted to the opioids.

Wait a minute. He did lipo after his own mother died of doing lipo. How did you, how did you know this is a legend? Because he said it on a podcast, you know, the, you know, that morning. Sway. Oh, breakfast club. Yeah. Okay. So he said it on there and he, because I just went into a weird for no reason

called not doing work that we should be doing for our collaboration. I decided to go into a Kanye deep dive of everything that I already knew. Basically, Megan Thee Stallion did a tweet where she's like, all these guys out here talking about how they don't like BBLs, but they have their same scars on their stomachs. So then all these people on Twitter were putting a ton of pictures of Drake and saying Drake had light-brown his stomach. And they're like, yeah, but why he skinny,

but ain't got no pecs. And like why he have abs, but no chest. And like all this, and it was- Right, which you absolutely can make male abs in the operating room. And then no arm definition. And I'm spending hours enjoying myself. And then someone comes in with a bogey and goes,

it's not Drake, it's Kanye. He admitted he got lipo. He said he criticized BBLs against Kim and her family when he went on that rampage against the Kardashian, the Jenners. And then he went on that rampage against the Kardashians and Jenners. And then he went on the breakfast club and said he got lipo because he didn't want to be heavy like Rob was at their wedding.

And this is all there. I mean, I would listen to the whole interview because I need help myself. And I need to be on the meds he's on. And it was like Rob had to leave the wedding because it was heavy and I'm trying to make y'all happy. And I got lipo and then that's how he got addicted to opioids because he did have an addiction to opioids

which is sort of what set this all off. Because I didn't see the Breakfast Club video, I'm just gonna say all this is a legend. Okay. About his Lypo but I believe you. Yeah, one was just saying I just don't need it. Well, you said he needs to go on Osempic. You're right, I'm a bitch.

Okay, Taylor Swift threatens to sue this college junior who runs a social media account that tracks her private jet and accusing him of stalking and harassing behavior. So this guy, she's not the only jet that he does. He figured out a little niche and he does do that. So they sent him a cease and desist, which I totally think is appropriate. This is for her safety and everything.

And he's putting it out there, but I also feel like he found a little niche. He's 21 years old. Everybody tells everything on social media, so I don't blame him, but I do think he needs to stop doing it. I think he's a little dick. Yeah, I mean.

He's a little asshole. I'll say that. Cause then it knows, here's me saying it. I wonder if his social media handle is Taylor Swift obsessed. Exactly. Exactly, like what? You got nothing better to do? I don't even know. You have nothing better to do than follow where she's going, all that.

We know where she's going, but you need to follow. There's a whole thing with the private jet now too, and her and whatever with climate change and people shouldn't talk about climate change and take a private jet and whatever. And it's like, you know what? When you go on tour, or I wanna go to private jet, I love the climate change. I would love to go on a private jet.

I would love to go on a private jet. I would love to. Well, we go on cruises all the time. I would love to jet around. The worst for climate change. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I believe in climate change. There's lots that we should be doing, but yeah, if somebody pays me to go to a private jet. I would love to- Well, we go on Christmas all the time. I would love to jet around. The worst for climate change. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I believe in climate change,

there's lots that we should be doing, but yeah, if somebody pays me to go work on a cruise, I'm gonna go. And if I had a ability to do a private jet, I would take a private jet. And if I was Taylor Swift, who has a billion dollars and changes full state's economy, I would get a private jet.

Yes, I think, and I think the state would pay for that private jet. I'm sure that is covered in her cause she gonna go on Delta Yeah, and then it's still there's so many people on the jet like her whoever it's still a ton of people still just basically a plane I think we almost had to deplane because this Dad of a toddler was unhappy with him not being able to take his carry on this carry on the toddlers were perfectly behaved the dad and His husband they got the boot. So, but at one point, we thought we all had to deplane.

And I was like, wow, this hasn't happened to me yet, but I guess this is what happens when someone is a dick. So, yeah, imagine if that happened to Taylor and there's a stadium waiting of thousands and thousands of people, no, you're right. There's certain people in, and then there's certain people that, hey, they can afford it and you can hate them for it. It's fine.

If you wanna spend your life hating them for it. But don't reveal this to then jeopardize everybody that works at this airport. And the safety and the machine. It's like the guy going like this now is gonna, you know, someone's gonna follow it and be waiting there or some young girl could be run over by the plane because she's such an inc fan, you know, like.

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It's about, William Truman, no, Truman Capote is a writer. He wrote Breakfast at Tiffany's. He wrote In Cold Blood. This takes place between like 1958 and 1984 about this writer's life, he was gay. And at the time, I guess you couldn't be out, but basically he was out as a gay man.

And he makes friends with the, he seeks out the wealthiest socialites that women just admire great fashion, great, and befriends them and then horribly betrays them socialites that women just admire great fashion, great, and befriends them and then horribly betrays them by making up lies about a couple of them, but then also sharing their secrets in an article that he puts out without warning or anything.

He changes their names a little, but it was very obvious because there's only so many women married to a studio head or whatever and And so there's only tonight will be the second episode and so we get to watch it once a week which I kind of like the third. Oh Really then I miss you up. Oh, I'm so excited. I only watch the first one and Anyway, what do you guys think of it? I love it. It's so good. I love anything from that era and I just saw a commercial for another show around the same era.

Is it called Soldiers Come Home? No, it's called something like about Palm Beach and Kristen Wiig is the star. And it's like, Kristen Wiig goes there from when I saw the trailer, it's a series and she goes there during that same era, which I love, like late 60s, whatever, to try to make it as a society woman in that part of

a country. It probably looks so great as a 60s person. I might be getting it wrong, but I just saw it, and I literally wrote in the comments, more shows in this era. I freaking love it. And that's exciting. The women in this, the women in this, really I freaking love it. And that's exciting. The women in this really love the part, they look their age,

they, everything about it. The smoking, everything. I love it. Some of them even look older than they were at the time, which is, I love, I love the casting, like it is beyond Demi Moore. Demi Moore, who is 60 years old, I know there was a time where she showed up at a fashion show and people were scared of her plastic surgery. However, it either settled down and she fixed it because she looks absolutely stunning and she looked so gorgeous on the

red carpet at this premiere. She had a black long dress with a swan, a black and white swan coming up around the bodice. She's absolutely stunning. She looks great. She's probably playing a woman who's like mid to late 40s, which she totally looks. Diane Lane. That's the character I relate to most.

I see myself as the Diane Lane. She's fantastic. Who do you see yourself as? Huh. I mean, that's a good question, probably to me more. But it, so the T, though, is Callista Flockhart, which you haven't seen, because you haven't seen the second episode.

OK. So Callista Flockhart plays Lee Radzowell, who's Carol Radzowell, mother-in-law. And Jackie's sister, Jackie Kenneo-Nassis's sister. So Julie and I are like deep diving and living our best life. Like the level that Calista Flockhart looks like this woman, it is, she's the one I thought was maybe cast. She looks beautiful too. Yeah. And she looks so much like her. This style Calista should take up, should just bring back this. Like I almost feel like with Miley doing that 80s hairdo, I was like, is that 80s big look coming back with the mob aesthetic?

Like did she, and I don't know how the mob aesthetic started on TikTok, but I guess somehow they're playing so much sopranos that just like how kids discovered friends like five, 10 years ago, they're discovering sopranos. And so they're like, oh, I like that. I like that with the fur coat and all the jewels and that bigger hair. And so they're wearing that. And so I wonder if she saw that and chose to wear that hairdo. Probably. And I'm, but I'm all for the sake, I always, since I was a little girl, said this is my

favorite aesthetic is this late, the mid-60s look. There's one scene where they all come walking, I think it was during Thanksgiving. Is that the second episode or the first episode? It's the second and they all come walking down. Okay. I can't. Wait till you get to the second episode, because there's a casino, a split screen almost. They do a thing about Thanksgiving in California and in New York.

Yes. And it's beautiful. And it's all Mexican in California. They're like, come and have tamales. And there's like, there's like Mexican tapestries on the wall. But even though like, like Phyllis Dillard's there and it is very glamorous, but it's very California. Yes. And Truman Capote's there and he's like,

wants to kill himself, but then they're in New York and it's not just them and the, it's the styling of them. Yes. And then this, this dinner table, cause the food, like you it's the styling of them. And then this dinner table, cause the food, like you said, the level of the production value, the amount of money that they put into this, even just to pay for these actors,

to pay for Gus Van Sant, who's the director. I was just like, this is how it's supposed to be. This is how television now is meant to be. I'm so happy Ryan Murphy was able to use his star power to get it done, get it done on this level. It could be done on no other level. It serves in every way, whether it's the restaurants in New York, the locations in New York, every church, every single detail.

Yes, what I love about that is the prop master. Beautiful. Because when I would watch Mad Men, I remember there was like a scene where they got drunk on a Sunday and they had their kids making them Bloody Marys. And John Hammond, his wife, and we had those exact glasses. They were these tall glasses, the gold leaves. And I was at the Parker Hotel in Palm Springs recently

and I was with my sister and I go, you know what, I just realized why I love this aesthetic so much. This aesthetic that's like before 1975 is I'm like because it was like the happiest time my childhood because it was before my mom started to work and it was our house looked like that. They had all, they had the orange and brown couch and all of this. And then it was after that that they went 80s and then they were like this real estate couple.

And my life was fine. But that part of it, it's like why I think I'm so attracted to deviled eggs and little wieners and martinis and colorful stuff and that look and that Palm Springs look and all of that. And so I do just love that simpler. I just think it's the greatest air. I love the cars, the convertibles, the smoking.

The smoking. Not good for us, but I just like watching it and being like, yeah. Your hands give detail. Your hands remind me of their hands in the movie, in the show. Oh, this nail look is what it is. Yes, you're giving like a... Social light hands. Social light in the show. Oh, this nail look is what it is. Yes, you're giving like a... Socialite hands. Socialite hands, yes.

I am upset that we didn't ever go to the Parker with you and Shan though. We can do that another day. I mean, because we love the Parker. It is just the most charming you guys. It is the best. And, but I will say the, what has not changed, which is timeless, is women befriending a horrible gay man who pretends to be their friend and confidant and believing that you actually are loved and cherished by this man, when in fact he's just a horrible man, but you're disguised

by the fact that he's gay and you think that's safe when in fact a horrible person is a horrible person and he really betrays them. And in the first episode, Naomi Watts who plays, I can't remember her name. Babe. Paley? Paley.

So the richest, he thinks is the most, to him is the most beautiful, the best one of all the swans. And she, husband, she, Tom or whatever. Perfectly cast. And she's laying with him after she, bears her soul to him. And she says, you know what, Truman? Cause he says, he didn't hurt you.

He just hurt your ego. And she's like, you know what, you're right. My husband couldn't hurt me. The only person in this entire world that could hurt me is you. And that is the basis for the entire show. And it is brilliant. It is so brilliant.

It is brilliant. And he goes to hurt all of them. But then he's portrayed as a victim too, as they love to do. Yes. And then I read this article in Time where they kind of go through who the real women were and what's portrayed in the show and what's not.

And again, what's playing out in our real lives too, similar to this, is that some women, like the Diane Lane character, is like, we're going to frickin' take him down. And other women continue to be friends with him. And because they weren't personally targeted in the article. So they are able to overlook the crimes. And still want that fun, fabulous friend.

I did watch a documentary because I needed to know the women more mainly because they're socialites. Of course we know celebrities and actresses from like the 60s and 70s. We don't really know socialites. That's a New York scene. The invention of Vanity Fair and Vogue

and like the literati, the gliderati. So I watched a documentary and the Chloe Sevenier is the main character in this iteration who stays friends with him. And in the show, she's like, or I don't know if it's a documentary, the show, she's like, of course I didn't tell him anything about my life, why would I?

And it's like, okay, so now you're blaming people who thought that he was a real friend. Regardless if they knew he was gonna write this tell-all book, they never thought it was gonna be about them. And he brings this guy with him and the guy gets up from the table. And again, the girls care about him and his relationship.

They're open, they're very accepting of his sexuality, even though society wasn't at the time. They're supportive of his friendship, they're supportive of his love life, and this is how he repaid them. The layers and levels that they're going in, the writing is so good, it's the best thing Ryan Murphy's ever done, in my opinion.

I think the layers of showing the, like the imperfections of the women is right on, and not just that it's not just Truman Capote, it's that they're them too. Like we're all human, we all make mistakes, we all fuck up, whatever, whatever, whatever. So just even the infighting of the women, like you, I wouldn't tell them that, oh, you did and just the one staying friends and even Demi Moore coming over to the table, like how can you sit here with him when he ruined my life and you're supposed to be my friend?

And it's like, we've all felt that too. I guess the women, the women, if they they, I don't believe any are alive today, but if any of them were, they'd be like 90 or something. So I just- Well, Julie said that- I implore- One of them is. He really rads well, just died in 2019.

Yeah. But I implore anybody that has a grandma or a mother or a relative that might have lived a similar life and has, you know, is able to have their, still have their wits about him, which I, you know, fortunately some are not, but please watch this with them. Please get the scoop. Ask them questions because, you know, in watching this, I remember my dad, you know, he was in advertising just like Mad Men. He was worked for Joel Dane Bermback. He came out here to work for that company, which is where John Hamm's character ends.

He comes to LA and gets the account for Pepsi. So anyway, or Coca-Cola, I think it was. Anyway, towards the end of my dad's life is when he started to give the juicy scoop. And I'm watching this show and I go, Dad, I mean, did people really cheat like this? Because, you know, my parents have been married forever and they're Catholic and my dad goes, oh, yeah, mostly the junior executives screwing the boss's wife. They all were screwing the

boss's wives. And I'm like, what? And he goes, yeah. And I go, what was your attitude? And he goes, well, I wasn't the boss. So I was like, go for it. That guy's a dick. And I'm like, what dad? And then my mom's like, well, and then there was that time. And I go, what? And she goes on to tell the story that my dad would call her like last minute, oh, can you whip up a roast or whatever?

I'm bringing the bosses and the clients and whatever. So he shows up and my mom slaps on her lashes and throws us in a room and or maybe I wasn't even born yet and makes some fabulous meal and done it. It was like pineapple circles on it. Oh my God, like a pineapple circle ham and like I don't even know,

Ambrose salad, like like a can, a lot of cans. Yeah. And this guy was there and the next day the guy shows up at the door. And my dad worked in the city, so like, but she's like, oh, Bob's at the office, what are you doing here? And he's like, I just thought it would be nice

if we got to know each other better now. Whoa, whoa. And so she was like, oh my God, this guy wants to have an affair with me. And somehow my mom, she goes, well, I gave him a to like have an affair with me. And you know, and somehow my mom like, she goes, why gave him a lemonade, you know, I was gonna root. And then she like said, no.

And she never told my dad until that moment. And I go, why didn't you tell dad? She goes, oh please, you know your father's temper, he's a Marine, he would have gone in there. Oh, you can't tell. Oh, you beat him up and ruined his career in advertising. So she never told. But you know that night your mom was like,

still got it, still got it. She said, girl, you look good still. Oh, my mom, well the other thing is my mom's mom owned a wig shop in Wisconsin. So she was like that girl that could wear wigs. So look, she had five kids, but she could always slap on a wig. And then that's glamour.

And some lashes. And she had like a perfect nose and a perfect face. And so some bell bottom jeans, and she was as chic as shit. I don't even think people knew they were wigs. No. Back then I remember I was like, Dolly Parton, you know that's a wig. And I'm like, what?

Like I didn't, I don't think people like really thought about it. No, no, no, no. Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah. Okay, speaking of which, not speaking, which there's nothing to do with this transition. Felicity Huffman is now opening up about the varsity blue scandal.

This is where she paid money to the guy's singer to get her kid. In her particular case, it was that when the daughter took the SAT or whatever, she had a guy, I think correcting the answers or something afterwards. She took a private test and then they corrected the answers. I don't know.

I know a lot about it. I don't know what, but anyway, she spent 11 days in jail, paid a fine, had to admit to it and says she really regrets it. And I'm still fascinated by this whole thing because my son Brandon, he got into the University of Oregon we went and looked at the school, we looked at Oregon State and University of Oregon, both are really beautiful and nice.

We were blessed with incredible weather, so they were tricking us because apparently it's not like this. People said it's a trick, but whatever. He really liked it. He really liked the weather word no. And he goes, mom, like, so you wouldn't have been able to get into USC today. And I said, absolutely not. And I go, what I think happened is I think that scandal was going on for the last 20 years. And those people were taking the spots, and therefore they had to keep going up and up for the GPA of the freshman to come in.

And it's not evening out yet, because they still want to keep that score of like, oh, our average freshman is a 4.5 or whatever, of these schools. And then San Diego State, when we were going, was like, you needed like a two-five, such an easy school to get into. And it was the number one party school that Playboy that year had announced. So people that wanted to party school, wanted to go there. But if you didn't want to party, you wanted to, you know, not go to the, you didn't

want to tell everybody, oh, I'm going to San Diego State. And you feel, oh, your kid's a dumb, dumb. He's going to the party school. Well, then somewhere along the line, people across the country were like, wait a minute, why don't I go to the nicest, most beautiful city on Earth? There's a school there called San Diego State. That's where I was born. Mom, maybe I'll just apply there.

And then everyone started to apply there. And then now it's like one of the hardest schools to get into. And because of it's like one of the hardest schools to get into. And because of Felicity Huffman and that, none of a very few California kids can go to a California school anymore. But even Drake school, which is known as a huge party school, but like so very hard to get into, very competitive. But because it's known as a party school, California or whatever, people will be like, again, same exact thing, but that's a hard competitive. Both AU and ASU

are, or U of A and ASU, are so popular, hard schools, D1 schools. No, they're great. They're all, the schools are great. It all works out. I'm not boo-hooing anything in my life. My kid is going to be fine. No, but I'm saying the example of party schools. Yeah. It is, because I remember in this college scandal, one of them, not them, it was, what's her name, Ann Becky. Lori Loughlin.

Yes. Yeah, it was them, it was her husband that was like, I don't want my daughter going to this party school. No, U of A, oh, because of U of A? Yeah. She wanted to go to U of A. The thing is, is what I truly think is it was not about the kid. It was about the parents wanting to tell everybody

that their kid got into USC, also them wanting to go to the USC games, not wanting to go to Arizona to see a game, you know. In September. You bet for them. That shit's so fun. It is, it is also fun. But I think it was like,

and they, you know, just like someone said, hey, I've got a good pool contractor. People were like, hey, if you want your kid to go. Felicity Hoffman said in an interview. And then so I think they all did it. She said in an interview recently while she's exploiting this woman who does this charity sitting with her. Yeah.

When they like got out of prison. And Felicity Hoffman's like, I just didn't think my daughter would have any future. I didn't think she would have any future. I didn't think my daughter, my daughter who I'm, my parents, me, Felicity Hoffman, and William H. Macy to like one of the most, you know, well-known. And one of the few couples who have stayed married.

So you have that, you already have the benefit of having not a divorced home. So you already are privileged. You're gonna get in anywhere you want because of both of your parents, so fine. So she doesn't have a future. And then they do that, she does her thing, whatever. This year, I believe, if it's not this year,

it was last year, that daughter on her own got into Carnegie Mellon acting school. Carnegie Mellon is one of the hardest schools, even when I was applying to colleges, one of the hardest schools to get into for acting. But she got in without anybody's help. I think we know why. With Brandon, and I said this with 3-2, I was like, look, if you're not happy at the school you choose, you got to stay the year. But you have all the advantages in the world. TAs, money for a tutor if you need it.

Get the best possible grades you can and transfer. But I hope you don't. I hope you choose a school that you love for four years. And I'm not worried about what school they go to because they are privileged. They have had their fucking McDonald's as a mother. They're going to be just fine. And that's really what I think. I'm like, I just want you to go and like grow

and make friends and don't. And I said, and in choosing your major, Brandon, I go, anything in 2024 can be made profitable. If you love, he doesn't, but if you loved art, back in our day, oh, what are you doing being an art major? The only job you possibly could have is working at a gallery or being an art teacher. That's not true.

If you love art, you could make that a business. You could put it on clothing. You could do TikToks where you explain where a piece of art comes and get million views because nobody really knows the story behind Mona Lisa. Whatever. So whatever class you take that class or take that major and think, how can I make this my own business?

I believe everything you can do that. That is my advice to all the kids in choosing where you're going to go to school or not. If you choose not to go to school, that's a whole other thing too. I think this was so great that this whole thing cracked open this world and made people realize this was going on. Because when I acted so shocked, because I was shocked, Mackenzie wasn't shocked, people were like, no, mom, I think this has been going on.

I'm like, why? Why would you think? Like, because I, that wasn't what it was like when I went to school. I just thought, you know, it just got harder and harder. What I do want to say is what I love, one great thing that came out of COVID, okay? Besides doing morning radio when you go to do stand-up in cities, we don't have to do that anymore, is the note, you know, not if, depending on what school is you're applying to and where

you are in the scheme of things like your GPA, They don't require the SATs or the ACTs. And I really love that. Now, if you're trying out for Harvard or whatever you do, okay, because you want every ability to show I'm really smart. But what I love about that is even when I took the SAT, I said, this is socioeconomically unfair. I'm like, I know this vocabulary word because my mother uses it daily in the home.

But there's people that are immigrants or maybe their parent doesn't have that vocabulary. They're not going to know this word. Also my mom and dad are putting me in Princeton Review, which was $1,300. And I went to Harvard Westlake or whatever and studied with those kids and there was like a trickery to it. Like if you don't know this, and then I got the L sat or whatever. So I was like, that's so dumb. It should be based on the merit of like,

what did you do for four years? Were you consistent? Did you follow through with the project? Did you get your homework done? So I think all of this is good for society. The whole entire secondary education, like university system is completely fucked and unfair at this point, just like everything.

It is all nepotism and it is, it's like my valedictorian like Peter's pants. Like it was like, okay. While he was up there, how could you see it to the end? No, but just in general. And it was like, I just think a lot of times too,

even the scholarship system is really, really unfair. It's like scholarships should be actually given. I remember thinking, you know, scholarships go to average students whose parents are in major debt. That's who those should go to. Because not the best smartest students who, of course, they should get scholarships too, but there are, I mean, people just middle class and lower income who don't get scholarships just because they're just average. I may start a scholarship. That's just for a girl that's a B student, but that is kind of funny. And her parents are in credit card debt.

And you know what? You would have done me. Yeah, but they have a roof under their heads. Yeah. But they only have one home, but they're not starving, they're fine. Not for homes. I came out of college with a $50,000, like student loan debt.

And it was like, you know, I mean, and I got a 4.0 in college, but I was definitely like an average high school. Yeah, I like barely graduate high school. Sometimes it clicks for people, like, you know, and then they're barely out into college, and then they're the ones going to medical school, because all of a sudden it just clicks. Or they all of a sudden just start to care.

Because no one's bossing you in college, you're boss of yourself. My mom kept saying to me, you're gonna be so happy, no one tells you what to do, you pick your schedule, if you don't wanna go to class, don't go. And then with a second I had the freedom to decide for myself, it was just everything. I hated the way school, I felt like I was literally,

it was like a penitentiary system. I'm like, am I like a person? Brandon admitted something to me this weekend. And I go, so you never took the, did you ever take the SAT or HT? Do we even know how you scored? And he goes, well, mom, I have to admit something to you. I go, what?

So I signed him up for like a practice test or whatever at the all girls school. And I was on the road and he goes, you didn't tell me before you like called me from like some gig and you were like, wait up. You have the ACT class. So he had to ride his bike all the way over to Louisville, which is not close. It's over like two hills and you get there. And he goes, and then I made the mistake of going to Blinky's donuts.

And there was a deal for two, which is now I realized I shouldn't have all that sugar before study. So he had two donuts. He went and the lady was like, so you guys just practice tests and just do this test for the next three hours. And then he goes, so then I raised my hand and I said, oh, I've been left alone at my home and I left the door open. So I need to ride home and close it. Can I just do this at home? And she said, okay. So he just admitted that like, so I go, oh, so I need to ride home and close it. Can I just do this at home?" And she said, okay. So he just admitted that like, so I go, oh, so that's why they never called me and said what your score was.

Well, who cares? You got into school, it doesn't matter, you're gonna go somewhere. I love that you just checked in like, hey, what ever happened with your SATs? Like the opposite of Felicity Huffman. No, I didn't actually hire someone to do it. I didn't even remember if he did it or not.

I didn't even recall. I mean, just checking in. What grade are you in again? Brandon, are you in 11th or 12th? Oh, okay. He said, okay, we're going to, oh, you already got into college. Okay, cool. See you after my gig. I mean, hilarious. Angie is your home for everything home, and they've made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your home projects done well. If you own a home, you know how much work that can take, whether it's everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality. It can be hard just to know where to start. But now all you need to do is Angie that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise

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Like she was the guest of the day or whatever. Wasn't it around the holidays? Do you remember that? Because it was winter. I don't know. Because I remember what we were doing too. It was definitely winter because that was the whole thing. I just, yeah, I remember hearing about this.

And you know, the story broke. Did Joyce discuss it? Yeah. The story broke and we said how horrible it was. And they're reading it and they said, they were reading or they're giving us the details, the producers and we said how horrible it was and they're reading it and they said they were reading or they're giving us the details, the producers and they said and then two masked white men with ski masks on came and attacked him and I remember saying wait a minute.

If they're wearing ski masks how do we know they're white? And they looked at me and they're like, do not say that on the air. And I go, OK. And so then we go out there and I just said, you know, if this is in fact true, I said this is domestic terrorism. This is absolutely horrible, which it was if it was true. Of course, we know now it wasn't that he hired the guys and all this other stuff for attention and to try to get more money on a show. Get more money on a show, be known, be a victim,

and it, you know. Yeah. His name on his face. Fake kidnappings might be one of my favorite topics ever. Mm. No, I didn't get fake kidnapped, right? It was fake kidnapped. Well, not fake kidnapped, but fake,

fake detect, fake detect. Yeah, fake fake kidnapped, but fake, fake attacked, fake attacked. Yeah, fake attacked. And then when the police came, he still had the noose on his neck. He didn't take it off. Just a classic thick rope noose where one has to really Google where to find that. I don't came in and go out at 2 a.m.

to get a subway sandwich. Isn't that a natural snack? Crossed railroad tracks in a blizzard. In a point below zero weather, whatever it was. Yeah, so let's never forget that he's a liar and let's never hire him again. What do we do? Is this?

I never want to see him hired again, sorry. He tells the Illinois Supreme Court he had a no prosecution deal. So we're still trying this. He's still just, yeah, he's not going to, I don't think. No. He's not going to prison. I thought it was completely done, but. It is done, I don't know.

I just had to see this before he came. So I just wanted to talk about, I always like to bring up people that are liars and it's been proven to be alive. And I don't want people to ever forget the people that lie publicly about things. It's too bad. It is too bad.

Everything in front of him. He's good looking. He could sing. He had it all. He was on Empire. He was like a beloved character. He's a black openly gay man. We needed him.

And this is what he did. It's so disappointing. It was just the ultimate thirst for attention. And a shortcut. We did want Empire to give him a raise. I'll give him that. But also at the stake of already the world, the society was so divided and you chose a crime that would only divide us more and it was not true.

It's so bummer. This Onlyfans mom, she has big car detail thing on her car which I've seen people do. Like what do you mean? Like I'm on Onlyfans? Like here's my OnlyFans mom, she has a big car detail thing on her car, which I've seen people do. Like what do you mean? Like I'm on OnlyFans? Like here's my OnlyFans. I don't know if it's a little, where you click on it, what do you call it? Like a QR code? Yeah, I don't know if it's a QR code or just go to Sandy Jones or whatever.

And her kids go to Christian school and they said, we don't want you being in the drop-off line advertising your OnlyFans. And of course she said, what do you mean being in the drop off line advertising your only fans. And of course, she said, what do you mean? That's probably where I get my most people, you know, some dad. But you know, like, I mean, how fun to be like whacking off to somebody that you can see. Like, you know, working the Halloween carnival.

Like, that's well. She's not stupid. And her husband has it on. And so then she said, well, you better do something to protect my kids because now they have to walk across a busy street because I can't be in the purple line with my only fans. As Piper Fawn, I cannot go to my Christian kids school.

Yes, how dare. It's so Florida, right? That she has her kids in Christian school but her and her husband are advertising her porny only fans. It's just great. But what about freedom? I mean, not for, right, that she has her kids in Christian school, but her and her husband are advertising her porny-only fans. Yes. It's just great. But what about freedom?

I mean, not for... Well, yeah. I would think that people who are for freedom of speech and all that stuff would be fine with it. Those things work. Right. And literally in 2000, like, a 12, Julie was driving on the 405. She meets me.

She's like, listen, I just saw this insane bitch on the 405. She meets me, she's like, listen, I just saw this insane bitch on the 405. And it was like this weird baby with like bows. And it was like, and- And the car. And she's like, it was all over the car. It was all over the car. It was like rainbows. And then this like cracked out five year old with bows.

A sticker, you mean? You know, the whole car was wrapped. Okay, wrapped up. And then it was like, look at me. And she's like, I think it was like, I think I saw a YouTube logo, one goog, and it was like this, JoJo Siwa. And from that point on, and Julie saw this back was like, look at me. And she's like, I think it was like, I think I saw a YouTube logo, one goog, and it was like this, JoJo Siwa. And from that point on,

and Julie saw this back when like JoJo Siwa was a little, she was on Dance Moms. When she was straight. They wrapped when she was straight at five. They wrapped that car, actually she was probably in the closet at five. They wrapped that car and they drove up wherever, back to their house in the valley.

And yeah, how many people did the Google Windows? And then I saw it again. And then we fell into the rabbit hole of Jojo Siwa. Because of that car. When she was little. So I'm not saying I'm not going to go to Piper Fawn because I might, OK? I, yeah, I see your point.

You know what I mean? It does work. It did work. It did work. My parents had a personalized license plate, Bob N, the letter N, Pam. Oh, Bob and Pam. And then I realized it was not a good move

because they would park in front of some house for two hours to give a listing presentation and other realtors would see it. And then they know that that person is thinking about selling and they sometimes try to swoop in. So then we had to bring an unmarked car to the listing presentations. They'd be like, there's Bob and Pam doing the threesome

with the guy who came over with the ham with the pineapples on it. And why are Bob and Pam in this house for two hours and while they're like doing mortgage docs? Yeah. I mean, the Wendy Williams doc is coming out. It's on Lifetime and she is executive produce

a thing that's just to tell all of how horribly she's doing. It's kind of, I don't really understand, but she says, I have no money. And then her son is seen saying like she has all these handlers around her and I think that she's doing drugs, she's not right. I don't understand, that's what I don't get. I guess she is desperate for money so she's like, well, if the only show that's going

to work is you guys following me around as I suffer from these different things, she has the- Is it a docu-series or a documentary? It's a documentary. I mean, I think it's just a couple hours on lifetime. And, you know, it's just heartbreaking. I wanna know, we can't diagnose her mental health, but you worked with her personally many times. Yes, yes.

And you've seen the footage of her now. Yes. We know that she did go into like a facility for like addiction, but is your, do you think that now are we just dealing with, are we still dealing with a- So she has the Graves disease, which make her eyes really big. Okay.

So then, and then I don't know that affects why she has to have the circulation machine on her legs. Okay. So it's like a situation with that. And then, which is why she would always wear like tennis shoes and dresses. And, but she was always really nice and always sharpened with it when I was on.

And then I think it was a combination of a lot of things. I think it was being humiliated by the husband. And she would have stuck with that husband forever had he not had a baby. She was like, once that came out, like I couldn't pretend anymore. With the neighbor. With the girl that lived down the street or whatever. Well, he put the girl down the street.

Okay. And him being like the executive producer of her show and all that stuff. And then I do think that she has struggled with addiction on and off. So I think it's all of those things. And it's just really sad. I mean, I don't know. And now it's like the way, the thing is that now she's the liability.

So it's like, you know, you're not gonna put your money, are you gonna put your money into, you know, Kelly Clarkson or Sherri Shepherd, who has like an exemplatory record of showing up and, you know, or are you going to try to risk it again with Wendy? So if she ever is in a place where she can come back, it's going to have to be completely self-done, whether it's like YouTube finance, something like we do. I don't know. I saw nobody's going to give her a big TV show ever again, obviously.

I mean, in the preview, what I saw was really sad. It was like going, basically, her saying, I went from having millions and millions of dollars to having nothing. And that was like. I just don't know where all that went. So I guess we'll have to watch the doc. Yeah. Because there was a weird thing where she was like,

I don't have access to my money, but it was like Bank of America or something or Wells Fargo. And I'm like, well, is someone trying to just protect your money because you have some weird person who's like, hey, give me 30. And then she tries to write a check for 30,000. And they're like, no. And then was she then going, oh my God, I don't have access to my money, but they were protecting her.

You know what I mean? So I don't really know if someone was doing her a favor or is really all her money gone. I'm confused. Yeah, because she also has her son, big Kevin, little Kev, so she supports the son. Those facilities she was in were expensive. And according to what we've watched, because we do watch like gossip vids on YouTube about it, because we love Wendy Williams.

We went and sat in the audience at Wendy Williams. While you're working with her, we're just like lurks in the audience, like cool. And it was fun. Yeah, she's great. Yeah, it was a great time. And you know, I said, you know, like, I love when I started this show, I was kind of like, oh, I love that she can do hot

topics by herself. And that's why sometimes I created the show that I could do that by myself as a topper or a loan or whatever. I wanted to make sure I found a way to do it. And I love that she didn't care. I love that she didn't try to be friends with people. And when she did, with like Nini, it didn't work out. You know, Nini felt like she got jealous of her

and she felt Nini wasn't a good friend to her. And like, literally that was like the only friend she made in the business, you know? And she was so like, oh, I go home to my husband and my son. And then when the husband betrayed her and the son went off to college, I think it was just like too much, you know? I do think her money might be in some type of conservative.

We can only hope it's in some type of account because she did have a lot of those like grifter types that were glomming on. The last documentary she talked about how much she left Caviar on a Dorito. She calls it a ghetto supply surprise in your mouth or something. That sounds delicious.

And so she loves caviar. And so, hey girl, Meredith Marks, go send over your caviar. Yes. Well, maybe she should get the $400 caviar we sent to Jeff that he never said thank you for. When we apologized and then he said we never apologized. Yeah, maybe. Maybe that.

Maybe that's it. Maybe Jeff still has some left. Maybe. Maybe so. Anyway, she loves caviar and we wish her the well and I will be watching it. This scoop from Potomac, this has been dropped and it cannot be brought up again. This is Candice from Real House of Potomac. Ugh, I can't believe this got dropped.

Said to Ashley, it shouldn't be dropped. She said to Ashley, who was married to Michael Darby, who's 63 years old, they have two kids together. I don't know if they're officially divorced or not, I think they are, I don't know. But she said something to the effect of your man is cheating on you with another man, something like that on the show. So then he went and sued her for defamation saying, it's not true and it's hurt my life, da-da-da. Now, I don't, from what I read, I did not get the details of why the judge dismissed

it with prejudice, meaning it cannot be brought up again. But either she must have shown some proof that it was somewhat true, or he couldn't prove that it actually hurt his business, in my opinion. Probably. I mean, it's probably that because I can't imagine, it's gotta be really hard to prove that you did or didn't sleep with it. I mean, it's just sort of like-

When people say, so sue for defamation, this person said you were a thief and a felon and why don't you sue for defamation? You were slandered for weeks on end. Yeah, why don't you sue for, and I said, first of all, I don't like suing because it's hard. But also you got to prove that you missed out on some huge opportunity because someone

believed that you were a felon. And I didn't. Like, my career is only getting better. So I, you know. That's the reason exactly. We were slandered for weeks. We didn't want to have to go through like, well, we didn't get to do the audition

for the modern family reboot when really like we leveled up more than we ever could have thought possible, which was only gonna come out. Like it was only helpful to us. But it's crazy that someone can spill hot coffee on themselves from McDonald's and be like, couldn't work two years, got a burn on my thigh, and get, they're like 11 million, but it's like, you know,

I mean, I liked this lawsuit because I think Candice really goes hard, and that's what was super, super entertaining with her, and she really came for Michael Darby, who is, you know, a great is a great villain and terrible husband. It was fun and enjoyable, but Candice Dillard's husband is not our favorite. I can't stand him. I can't stand his husband. We've had this conversation.

You don't like him. He's a chef. But it's not because he's a chef. But so when anybody came for him, though, yeah, she was literally acting as if like the network execs at Bravo. You're accusing him of full rape. Like he raped your mother in the back of a Jerry Queen. I think when she said that to Ashley, and I might be mistaken, she was saying it She said that to Ashley and I might be mistaken. She was saying it in a way of like girl, like almost like I'm on your side. He's a piece of shit.

I mean, she did end up divorcing him. She wasn't necessarily saying it in like you're such a loser because you're with him. I think she was saying it like open your eyes. She didn't think anybody told her that she was a loser. But maybe I'm wrong because they have hated each other. So I don't know. Nobody said to her that she was a loser for being with Chris.

They just said, listen, he's done some questionable shit. He didn't read the room. It could have been a mistake. In the level she acted like, you know, like I'm saying, like all of Bravo and NBCU came down to cause this storyline. But yet she will drag Michael Darby. They were still married at the time.

They were not anywhere near divorce. And Michael Darby is shady. He was grabbing production guys' asses. Like he had a lot of things that were happening, but they weren't happening to Candace. And she was happy to make that her storyline many, many, many, many times. And then when her husband became a storyline,

she didn't like that. And nobody likes it. And so I just was like, well, you're getting sued now. Well, I mean, I think this is a thing to be like, look, you're on a reality show, people talk shit, it's probably not worth it to sue each other. You know, but- And also be rational too.

Like nobody, she escalated a situation that didn't need to go anywhere. Somebody came to you and said, listen, I just feel weird, like your husband's here in the room, I just don't wanna be alone with someone else's husband in a hotel room. It looks bad. Go to your husband and tell him just don't do it again.

And I'm sure he'd be like, okay, sorry. And he'd go, sorry, listen, I didn't mean to make you feel weird. I was just, I just didn't realize. And that would be the end of it. Yeah. That would be the end of it. But no, no, no, Candice needed to, you're coming after my husband, my husband,

and she went over and over and then coming for people. I have to say, I haven't been watching it this season. Well, the bottom line is that- Are you watching? I'm not really watching. Yeah, we're watching. Are you watching? Is it good? Is it good? We love it, but right now it's kind of, Candace and Giselle will not speak to each other.

And this is why it's a disappointing because we do like Candace and we do think she's really funny and a great addition to the show. And it is a disappointment that when the storyline shifted to her and her husband, she couldn't sort of lean in and run with that. She stopped it and it became so dark and so insulting that now she's probably gonna have to go.

And it's a bummer because we don't want her to leave the show. I mean, we like her a lot on the show, but they don't even speak. Yeah, do you guys know about Candy not coming back to Atlanta? Yes. So she announced it in an interview at the Grammys and I went on TikTok and talk and I was like,

wow, I love what she said. She just goes, yeah, actually I'm not coming back. It was taking a minute to get the contract and I was like, just assuming I would and then her friend goes, why are you doing it? And she goes, I don't know what I'm doing. And I've just done it every year for 14 years and I have all these different projects coming and I'm just not going to do it. Now there's been other talks saying Heather, you're wrong.

She wasn't asked to come back. I am just going by what Candy said. I don't, it felt truthful and it felt like girl out of all the people that have been on this show for all the years. You came a star and you're leaving as a bigger star. You're worldwide, bitch. Yeah, like new. And you worldwide, bitch. Yeah, absolutely.

And, you know, your husband produced that movie and about that they hadn't drew in and they can do those type of movies. They can do so many different things together. And I do kind of feel like why include your kids anymore? Like, why do it? She can always come back if she wants. But I agree, like this is what you hope for every housewife

that they can decide not to leave. But who knows? You know, like, I guess we'll never really know the truth, but I believe Candy. I believe her too, and I believe that regardless of maybe they were not going to ask her back, perhaps. And I can also see, at least from our experience with People's Couch, we didn't know for almost two years

that the show wasn't coming back. Because they never told us it was canceled. They wanted to lead us on. We kept going and going. We would ask them. And then finally, even when we found out, it was, but don't tell anyone and don't talk about it or whatever.

So I could see that Bravo does have a way of of making of stringing people along. Yeah, stringing along exactly. Because you're waiting and is this going to happen? And I don't know. Well, we don't know. We're working on it. We're working on it. But they knew all along that was never coming back. So perhaps that could be. But Candy is exactly worldwide and don't need to wait.

Or they were going to offer her less money. And and now if she leaves for a year or two and comes back to less money, it's just a lot different. Yeah, I mean, I think she was over $2 million a year. And very highly. Just like a big CEO that they want to get rid of, because they're making so much money, the same thing goes on with housewives.

But she can come back later for the way get rid of because they're making so much money, the same thing goes on with Housewives. And... But she can come back later for a much, the way Kenya did for a much lower rate, and it won't be as sort of a slap in the face to her. I felt like they might've said, listen, like we're gonna revamp and low ball everybody. So take a year off, come back, Portia's probably not going too low

because they really need her. Yeah. God, we miss Portia's probably not going too low because they really need her, you know? God, we miss Portia so much. Right. So she took how many two years, I'm not sure, maybe more. And so I think if Candy's like, okay, I'm not gonna take less money, I'll leave for two years, you'll see that you miss me and I'll come back.

It may be it'll be less money, but it won't be as- I'm gonna light a candle that- Jill Zarin. What do you mean Jill Zarin? The Jill Zarin comes back to Atlanta? No, the Jill Zarin manifestation candle. Oh, I'll take a manifestation from Jill and I will pray for Kim Zolziak,

Neene, the Carlos King says never Neene, but Kim Zolziak and Neene, and then, and the take a year off, they stay on it, and then Candy comes back next year. I mean, I feel like Nini's- That would be the show to watch. Nini is just a given, like if they could ever get her back, or could just deal with the way of getting her back.

But Kim is really the dark horse there. Like, just get Kim back, and quite frankly, get Shiray, let's get the original cast going, or season two because that was candy. And let's just try and force Kim to go on the vacations again, now that she doesn't have Kroy because she never wanted to ever travel. Regardless of Kroy, she never wanted to travel.

And then just, it could be, Kim is really the dark horse factor. Like that's such a- Be amazed at going through the divorce and the wigs. Really quick, this, do you remember when Tinsley Mortimer had that mug shot that everyone talked about and her Botox was out of control? No. Do you know what Tinsley Mortimer is?

Yeah. She came on New York Housewives after she had a scandal in which she had a mugshot because she was dating this guy and he said that she trespassed, okay, on his property. And that was all we remember is that she was a psycho ex-girlfriend that trespassed on this guy who is the sugar heir. He's super rich. Wow. Well, he just got arrested for beating up his girlfriend

who called the police because he was so mad, according to her, that they were seated next to a homosexual couple at a fancy restaurant in like Palm Beach. Why doesn't this ever happen to me? Beat up. Why can't this ever happen to me? I wanna be there, I wanna be there when that's happening. You're the homosexual couple.

Yes, exactly, we're the homosexual couple.. You're saying why aren't people more prejudiced towards you in public so that you can beat the living shit out of him? Why can it happen? Why are people so nice and accepting? Why are people so nice at her? Why are people so accepting of your gayness? Yeah. Why? Why is it? I don't understand. I don't understand like this. So, I'm reading the article and she, I did not realize that she had a history tinsley of domestic violence with him. The cops were called and all this stuff. There were all these other incidences leading up to her being arrested for quote unquote being on his property. I didn't think that was a thing on the show. And I'm like, we watched this thinking that she,

I didn't think that was a thing on the show. And I'm like, we watched this thinking that she, whatever, had a psychos... No, she was in a complete domestic violence horrible relationship with this asshole who is now proven to be an asshole of domestic violence abuser. Wow. Thank God. And you know, you know, Tinsley Mortimer left the show to marry

the coupon king. He was a cheating weirdo or allegedly wasn't a great boyfriend. They broke up. No, Tinsley Mortimer left the show to marry the coupon king. He was a cheating weirdo or allegedly wasn't a great boyfriend. They broke up. She is now happily married to a beautiful man who is a widower, which is sad, but he found a second love of his life, Tinsley. And now she is a mother to those three kids. But do they have money?

Yes. Oh, good. A lot of money. That's what's important. And the kids are young. They're like the same age. That's a couple. Oh, that's nice. And remember how mean they're into what?

Why don't you get a turkey baster? I'm trying to get pregnant. Talking about having the last laugh. We didn't watch the Tinsley. Tinsley morning. Should we watch those Tinsley seasons? No, there wasn't. I mean, listen. There were some fun moments with Shader Mom were crying over photos of her eggs. Well, she doesn't need those eggs anymore. She has three live great children that were like, lovely.

And the photos that were from the wedding, the kids' faces were blocked out, which I like. I think his was, we don't know, she's living a private life. That's nice. So she's like, Heather's living a private life. That's nice. So she's like, Heather, thanks for reminding everyone when I was in an abusive relationship.

But I just had to say that she made it and this guy was awful. And thank God she got away from him. And Sugar Air, what is his name? Did they say his name here? Mainly, I'm like, what's the restaurant? Yeah. Flagler.

Okay. Time to hit up Flagler's Steakhouse. It's a good thing there was a town there. Not, it wasn't Fagler, it's Flagler. Steakhouse, maybe he thought he was going. Maybe he was like, you took me to a steakhouse? Called Fagler? You knew that would piss me off.

And she's like, no, it's called Flagler. No wonder it's filled with gay people. He looks like Greg Brady. Really quickly, we've gone long, but I do want to say this guy, Shane Gillis, is hosting SNL. I guess he has blown up on Netflix and YouTube and everything. He was hired to be an SNL writer five years ago. And before he could start,

someone pulled up a YouTube of his podcast in which he did a Chinese accent. So he licked his wounds, he got fired, he went off. With a podcast that had very little views, notoriety. He was like living with roommates. And he was, he had said. Asanel got so much shit, there was no way they could keep him on.

So he was like, well, what am I gonna do? I could crawl into the ground. I could go back to my old hometown. They never do Hallmark movies about that. Where it's like, what are you doing working at the tree, Christmas tree lot? Well, I was gonna be in New York City, the big city as an SNL writer,

but they saw me do a bit where I did a Chinese accent. So it's back working on my parents' farm. What brings you here? And she's like, oh, I was an influencer who was making millions of dollars. Where they all go back? All of them? Like did you see Mary Claire?

She's working over at the gas station. I was going to go to USC, but my parents lied and said I was a rower. Yeah. Oh, I was an influencer in California and I sold mascara, but I actually had false eyelashes on. And they all came for me and they took down my TikTok and I never could work again. So now I'm working at the flower shop.

What are you doing, Eric? My grandfather was a Nazi. Oh, I don't think you're in the right town. You gotta, you should, wait you really should be canceled. That actually counts. You actually need to go to Florida. We're just in the temporary cancellation of a few years.

No, but he- We were mistakenly canceled and we're gonna get real successful like next year. Oh, yes. He continued to be, to do his talents and continued to be funny and do his thing and not give up. And he did some funny videos

and people were like, wow, this guy is funny. And then someone in the comments would say, don't you know that he did a Chinese accent? And then the person was like, I don't really care. I think this guy's funny. I'm gonna send him to my friend. And so on and so on and so on. And he has done so well

that now he's actually hosting SNL. Going to host SNL. Wow. Which I always love to say, you know, Melissa McCarthy and Steve Carell at one time were the highest paid actors in the business, not just comedy actors, but the highest paid. And both Melissa McCarthy and Steve Carell audition for SNL multiple times and were turned down.

But then SNL loved to have them back to come host. And I was like, but they weren't good enough to be on your show, right, Lauren Michaels? Right, well, you know, they decide, you know, it's all those factors involved, you know. And I was supposed to audition for SNL. And I did a pilot for MTV Collieris Society and I took all those characters and we sent them

and they had an audition. And Peter was gonna go with me and I had my suitcase packed. And the night or the day before I was supposed to go, my agent called and he's like, I have good news and bad news. The good news is the MTV pilot got picked up. And the bad news is you can audition for SNL

because you're in first position and they're not gonna let you. And he begged too. He was like, please, it's SNL. And the MTV people are like, screw you. Like she's like the star of our show. And so yeah. And so, yeah. And then after that, I was like married

and Mackenzie was little and I never sent another tape or tried to audition again. So people always wonder why, why are you never on SNL? Well, that's why. People ask me too, why were you ever on SNL? And I say, cause I never had an opportunity ever one time, even though I was on a sketch show.

Did you ever send in a tape or try to get an audition? I did not try. I was on Big A Sketch Show. I thought that was, I was happy with that. And then of course, everyone on that show, the only, your reason for living was to get on SNL. Right. And multiple people from the cast went to audition for SNL. And I certainly had thought about it and I tried, but I don't know.

I just, I just, um, I, my heart wasn't into it after a while. It just like, I lost. Okay. McKinnon was on that show with Julie Biggs, Biggs Sketchout. She was with SNL. I was always scared of New York, like to live in New York. I always, I, when I would watch, Shannon and I would, one summer,

my dad let us have a TV in our bedroom. And every night we'd watch SNL, like reruns of it at like 11 o'clock at night during the summer. And you know when they have that opening where they're like at bars and they're smoking and they're on the subway at night? That scared the shit out of me. I was like, I would, I'm like, I don't know

that I'll know how to do that. I don't know if I'll know how to go on the subway. So, but the main thing is I would have been fine, at 30 doing that, you know, but yeah, I was like, well, what's the point of auditioning? How would I have my family because we had shared custody of McKinsey. So I was like, there's no way that we can,

how would we ever continue the relationship with her? There's no way. And so I just didn't even think about it. Well, I think things always work out the worst way. The way they're supposed to work out. I was like, was gonna audition for SNL too. And the thing was, was that I just like wasn't funny or just that talented.

So I didn't ever do it. Right. You know what I mean? That's a hardship. It's hard. Sometimes when you're not good enough for SNL that hurts too you guys. I'm pretty sure Jennifer,

I'm pretty sure Jennifer Coolidge has tried out. I mean a lot of people tried out and just wasn't the year or you know, it depends on who you're going up that year. I have to say this too. If there was like three other girls that were white and looked like you and did similar stuff, they're gonna pick maybe someone that, then they were like, oh, she can also do this person.

Like they're looking to fill the spots, you know? I definitely got discouraged too, because once Kate McKinnon got on, and it was a big deal that she was a lesbian, I knew I was gonna be too, or I already, I sabotaged my own self too. Like I'm gonna be too gay. I look too gay. They're never going to have me.

And I'm my, and doing Big Gay Sketch Show, I learned what it was like to be on a sketch show, and it was very disconcerting. And I knew I also just didn't want, I didn't think that I would be able to fit into it too. So I just like lost, I just didn't try. I think I could have tried. I I just like lost, I just didn't try. I think I could have tried, I had an audition, but I lost my heart just,

it just like between my own sabotaging and then big gay sketch show, I just was like, I'm not gonna go in there and be told I'm too big of a dyke. I just can't take it, I can't do that again. I think if I had never met Peter, I would have been on SNL. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I, I would have been on SNL. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I think I would have been on SNL and I probably would have maybe never gotten married or had kids. I think I would have lived with New York life. You just feel a lot more successful without Peter. Yeah. It's the bottom line.

I would have lived a completely different life. That's your movie or that's the thing, let's remember, let's remember, we're gonna write it down, the dream sequence of, what would have happened if I didn't marry Peter? Brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, and then it's like. Heather's a Truman Capote, like, anyway,

it's funny. Oh, can you believe it? Peter comes by, he's like, does anybody want me? He's doing catering. Yeah, pigs that have like it. Hi, hello, I'm in me? He's doing catering? Yeah, pigs that have blankets. Hi, hello, I'm with some McDonald's. Could I offer you? No, no, bring the caviar on the Dorito, please, please.

Girls, tell the world how they can get more Brandy and Julie in their lives, because people ask all the time. Go to julieandbrandy.com, Brandy with a Y. We have a regular podcast, dumb gay podcast every Tuesday, and then we have a Patreon podcast. You can find it, just Google Julie and Brandy Patreon. We don't do any politics on our Patreon. No, we're going to start cameo soon because of you. Telling you guys.

We are. We're missing out. We're revitalizing a lot of, there's a lot of exciting things coming. In the brandy Julie world. One of them is exciting is June 14th, but that's so in the middle of the way. But you guys are joining me at my show, which is almost sold out.

At Thousand Oak Civic Arts Center, March 16th, it's at heathermcdMcDonald.net. I'm also adding a couple more spring dates, which will be at HeatherMcDonald.net. That's where you join the Patreon, get the merch that I'm wearing, and coming to see us. So exciting. Mm-hmm. Well, we're going to give you a free cameo. Oh, thank you for my birthday. Yeah. Okay, okay. I'm gonna have Peter do that, where it's like, oh, tell my wife, I love her, love her, love her, love her. Hey, Heather, we heard from Peter,

he's so happy you didn't take SNL. Mm-hmm. He wanted to tell you that he's glad that you decided to marry him and not be even more famous and rich. I do do a lot of cameos, and I love it, for the nicest husbands in the world that know that their wives are juicy scoopers.

That's nice. But there's just a couple guys that will send it, and they'll say, hey, this will be the fourth cameo you've done for my wife. I've done it every year. And I'm like, dude, she's done. Think of another gift. Not only are you gonna ruin your relationship, you're gonna ruin her liking me at this point.

Or do it, but this doesn't count. You still need to go to a nice department store or jewelry store or get her something else. Because there are those guys that are like, oh, my wife likes Prada and as nice as Prada is, every year they just get her a nice new bag, which she loves, but also think about something else. Think about something else.

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