Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - The Truth about Denise Richards’ Divorce with Chef Stu

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

Chef Stu aka Stuart O'Keefe is here! Stu is not only a celebrity chef but he is hilarious too! Denise Richards’ husband filed for divorce! Stu shares his crazy night with RHONY Sonja. Ramona blew off the wrong Bravo fan. NeNe and Bethenny reveal why they quit working overtime on Housewives. The Valley may need a cast shake up. Breaking news, I figured out why “And Just Like That” is the way it is! Did the Bezos really even get married? What is happening with Kelly Clarkson? So funny so juicy! Enjoy! • Get the best savings of the season during Boll & Branch’s Annual Summer Event! Get 20% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at ⁠https://bollandbranch.com/juicyscoop⁠  • For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to ⁠https://nutrafol.com⁠ and enter the promo code JUICYSCOOP • For a limited time our listeners get 25% off, just head to ⁠https://gopurebeauty.com/juicyscoop⁠  and use code JUICYSCOOP • Right now, Boulevard is offering new customers 10% off your first year subscription when you go to ⁠https://www.joinblvd.com/juicyscoop⁠ and book a demo. Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales, her real life Mr. Safe and Serial Data, and Serial Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Heather McDonald, Juicy Scoop.

Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a dear friend of mine, but you know him. He has not been on the show yet because I was hoping that he'd come to my house and cook for me first, but I finally decided he's just funny enough to just be himself on my show. It is Chef Stu Stuart O'Keefe. You said the Irish way of pronouncing it.

So I was like, look, she was trying to figure out like what you wanted to call me. I was like, just call me by my like Irish translation of it. So Stuart O'Keefe. O'Keefe? So disgusting. Yes, that cute Irish accent is not fake. You are not pulling a hilarious. You are actually from Ireland.

From Ireland. I am 98% Irish, but I am not from Ireland. Yeah, born and raised. Born and raised, came out here very, I love your Irish accent. I love that we have the Irishness about us. And you know what's really funny is someone pulled up some bio of me and they're like,

I didn't realize that Heather had Canadian roots. And it's because, well, this is the thing. This is the juicy story. So my dad was 100% Irish. His dad was 100% Irish and lived here. The mom came over when she was 29 off the boat, changed her age to 19, met my dad's dad. It was a 19 year old firefighter. It's like the original Cougar story. Wait there. She changed her age.

Yeah. When she got off in Ellis Island, they were just like, how old are you? And she just wrote like, she was like, fuck, I'm not saying I'm 29. So then she's like denaturalizing America with her new age. Yeah, she said 19. Or naturalized, yeah. I'm 29 to not be married in like 1920, whatever, is really old, okay? So then she met him, they live their life,

he's the fire chief in Long Beach, Long Island, New York. She has two kids and then a huge break and has my dad and his sister, which I've realized, we realized not until after she died, that she was 10 years older, nobody knew. Nobody knew. They were like, yeah, she died at 88. And they're like, no, she was actually 98.

It also meant she had some really old ass Irish eggs that still worked. So she basically had, gave birth in her mid forties to my dad and his sister, because they were like a second chunk of kids, but from the same dad. And so anyway, my mom then met my dad and her mom and everybody,

their name was Lassard or something. And she said, my mom was French Canadian. So she's like, I'm half Irish and I'm half French Canadian. The French came over and like lived in Canada and whatever and then came to America. And so my whole like, I'm half Irish and I'm half French Canadian. The French came over and like lived in Canada and whatever and then came to America. And so my whole life I'm like, oh, I'm one quarter French Canadian. My mom made us take French

and she was like a real snot about it, whatever. So then I go do some YouTube thing with Ross Matthews of like, I don't know, five years ago to do the DNA thing. The DNA thing, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, I'm 75 know, five years ago to do the DNA thing. The DNA thing, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, I'm 75% Irish, one French Canadian, okay? And they're like, no, you're 98% Irish. It's amazing.

And then I was like, wait, hold on. First of all, no one fucked anyone else interesting along the way. Yeah, yeah. That's shocking, okay? Secondly, I'm like, wait, did someone like cheat on my mom's side? Whatever. And then when I talked about it, somebody wrote or told me they go, you know, the Irish, a lot of Irish settled in Canada. Yes. And I guess the they were sort of looked down upon. So some of them just said they were French instead, I guess. That sense because it was the same I heard it was the same in America as well

Where a lot of like Irish like they weren't wanted when we came over it was like Irish need not apply to these jobs and all that stuff. Yeah, and Apparently a lot of the Irish people lost the O in their names. So like O'Keefe So it would just be Stuart Keefe. No, and then it's crazy. As a friend of mine in college, I forgot her last name, but it was O something. And I go, Oh, are you Irish? She said no, because when her Italian relatives came over, the Italians were looked as like, ugh, so they would add an O to their name because it was better to be Irish. Than Italian.

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filed on Monday, said the date of separation was July 4th. What happened? So I didn't watch that much of the E show, but apparently they were, the house that we saw them living in before Unreal House was Beverly Hills, his family lives there. She and he got like three condos that they're renting. They live in one, they work in one

and have some dogs living in one and then like one of the daughters lives in the other. It's so weird. And yeah, she has all these dogs and everything. And he filed for divorce, it's been six years. He never did adopt her child. So she has two daughters with Charlie Sheen and adopted this child at birth. Eloise, I think is her name. And Eloise, she

realized when the child grew up that she had some challenges. He's been very lovely to her daughters, but I don't think he ever officially adopted her. So I believe she has that child as a single woman. He then in the thing is asking for spousal support. He says, I have no income. Remember he had that weird like fit medical thing like like energy healing. And she went to go see him and she always talks about how she's like, and then I saw his penis. And like I fell in love with his penis and they had sex the first day at an

appointment. What people don't know is I think there might've been a slight overlap. He was married to Nicolette Sheraton. Sheraton didn't know that from desperate housewives and then started dating Denise, but I'm not saying anything, but I'm saying there might've been an overlap or an appointment or shore. He gets divorced from Nicolette Sheraton. Gets with Denise. They get married on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills There were some moments on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills where he would Refer to things people are following us and we know about frequency or something It seemed strange and he had very the place was on PCH. So I'm assuming very expensive rent

He doesn't have that business anymore he is on PCH, so I'm assuming very expensive rent. He doesn't have that business anymore. He is saying he has no income. And so he's asking for quite a bit of spousal support because he says she makes 250,000 a month between OnlyFans, I guess being on her E show, and you know, and sponsorships. Now we had heard when she was making we heard She's making two million a month on only fans. I believe it's more like 250

I believe that maybe the first month you do and then everybody signed up Yeah guys seen you they go to the next thing you know what I mean like you're not married to your only fans person You're not like oh, I can only subscribe to Denise Richards for the next 30 years like that's the problem with only fans You know like you're obsessed like, you gotta make it, you gotta save your money and move along. So he says of that, like they spent 20,000 on clothing, 15,000 on going out, all these expenses per month that he needs to live accustomed to his life.

So some people were shocked. I was not that shocked. It was like a dirty John type thing with him. I mean, I just think marriage is hard and six years is six years. And I don't really, I think it was probably like mostly sexual attraction and all that. And it's a lot to handle and he, whatever. I mean, he's both married before. She was married before. I don't think. It's interesting. He did it.

It is interesting. Now there are some thoughts where people are thinking That there was rumors or something that he had some Issues some something with that business that by divorcing her maybe that'll separate the assets and no Okay, and whoever's coming after his business then can't come after her. So maybe this isn't a real divorce. I never really believed that that's the case. I've never known of a case that's, people thought that with Tom and, you know, Erica and all that, that's never,

oh, by the way, Erica, Gerardi has a new boyfriend. He's like a former, like, special ops guy. And he goes by Shrek, but he doesn't look like Shrek, thank God. And good for her. Like she's going back to her roots. Her first husband was a cop. I think she just likes like a normal guy. He's her age.

They look like casual and cute together. Good for her. Anyway, getting back to this. So I don't believe that anyone really does that and makes a big, I don't think you'd, if it was a fake divorce, you wouldn't make yourself look like a dick. If you were doing a fake divorce to save your wife's assets, you wouldn't spell out how much money everyone's making and how much you want. Here's the thing, but maybe that makes it more real.

I don't think it's fake. But they just shot the show. Was he a total dick on the show or were they fighting all the time in the show? I don't even know. I don't think he probably loved being on the show. It was work. He probably doesn't want to work. He probably just wants to collect a hundred thousand a month for the next three years because if you're married for six years in California you get half. It's six years the number. Six years? No, no. No, you get half meaning three years of support. So he's entitled to three years of support. Now years, no, no. I thought it was 10. No, you would get half, meaning three years of support. So he's entitled to three years of support.

Now she could quit OnlyFans and it could go down to 20,000 a month. She's not gonna quit that. But you know, same thing happened when she divorced Charlie Sheen. She was getting like 50,000 a month. And I remember- That's all she got? 55,000 a month I remember she got.

And I remember thinking, and that was anyways, the height of two and a half men. But then he got all crazy with the tiger blood and lost that show and whatever. And then, so she wasn't getting that money anymore. She doesn't get any money from him. Obviously the kids are grown, but so then she now is doing these only fan things,

finally making money. And now she's gonna have to give him millions because they were together for three years. That just sucks. It really does. It does. It's like, but I wanna, I like your- Hopefully there's some Casamigos Reposado around the corner for her.

Oh God. Well, the good news- What does she do? Do you like, just really, just kind of off topic, but like, I never actually, what does she do in that? Like does she like touch herself and stuff? I think why people get people get people to write back to everybody for you. You don't do that yourself Okay, and these dumb guys believe it. They don't care. Yeah, so in doing that That's how you make the real money getting tips getting them to talk to you more

God, okay Show me a photo of your feet whatever and then I think they have a day or two of content where they do funny videos, you know, not funny. They do sexy videos, lingerie, different outfits, this and that. But I did hear she does nudity. Like you can take a see her in the shower, like showering. You know, she's very pretty and sexy. And like, so I just think, my God, like you have to go do OnlyFans and now you have to give it to your second husband who is an energy healer who nobody wants healing from. It's just like such a fucking bummer.

All right, well, I love you. You're so funny. You are an incredible chef. I love watching your videos. And here's a gorgeous photo of you being a sexy chef. LA Magazine. LA Magazine, look at you. We had fun, we went to that LA Magazine party together

and with Paris Hilton. And so very fun. I love that you are a chef. I love watching cooking videos. I love watching yours. But the thing is, is that it's like, I always wanna do it, but then I never, when I'm at the grocery store, I'm just like, I don't-

We have to do the whole thing. Yeah, I need to have all the ingredients. I don't, I'm always impressed like how you chop. And then I've never like made a dip or a soup or anything like in a Cuisinart or whatever. I've never done that. There's so many things like I wanna do. So you're gonna have to come over. I'll come over to the house, yeah. We'll do it in Palm Springs or we'll do itart or whatever. I've never done that. There's so many things like I want to do. So you're gonna

House. Yeah, we'll do it in Palm Springs or we do it here or wherever dips and like and that it is protein and so they're really so make sure and you follow him and you're also a Private chef. Yeah, and I'm curious like because sometimes I watch these videos of like Hi, follow me being a private chef in the Hamptons. People ask me that all the time, like why don't you do the videos? I'm like, I'd rather like slip my wrist. How do you, first of all, how do they have time?

And if I was paying you, I'd be a little annoyed because I'd be like, wait a minute, you're like propping it and doing this and that, like already your day must be quite busy. Yeah, like it is, but like, I mean it is, like I'm good at it now, so it's like, I can knock it out quick. You can do the videos for yourself.

It's basically like 3 o'clock to 7, 7.30. It's kind of like Monday to Thursday. This particular client is what I work for now. Oh, you make their thing. And so do you go over the menu every week? No, these people are cool that I work for. They're like, we know what we like, and you just kind of mix it up so it's not too... Healthy protein, vegetables, like now I've had other clients in the past where it's like,

give us the menu per week. I had one like in Beverly Hills, like, you know, a temporary one for like, you know, two or three months. She wanted the menu at the beginning of the week, which actually made it easier for me. Yeah, because it forced you to be like. Well, it's just like, I know exactly what I'm doing and I'm like, you know, it's planned out and so forth. But like these people I work for now, like... Well, it's just like I know exactly what I'm doing and I'm like, you know, it's planned out and so forth. But like these people I work for now, they're just cool.

They like different stuff. They don't mind me trying out things. And like that's the kind of like the ultimate goal, like to get a client like that. Okay, I have a question, a weird question. And maybe you can't, I'm sorry, because I'm putting you on the spot. But like, for someone who's not going to get a private chef, but they watch all these housewife shows and they kind of want to have like that dinner party, multiple course experience. What would you tell someone never to do? And what could they do and like pull it off? Like what is a huge mistake where someone like,

you can't manage it all if you're... Okay. So if you want like a dinner party, we'll say for 12 people at your house, right? So we'll say you'll do the decor for the table and all that stuff. So now you're like, okay, food. That's one. So you say like to go about hiring somebody or are you doing it yourself? Let's say you're going to try to do it yourself and you're a decent cook, but like you've never you want it to come out at the right time and not one thing compliment another.

What's like a simple menu that someone could maybe pull off? Okay. What I would do is like family style so big platters down in the middle of the table all the way through right? Okay. Like do a ton of salads. All right. Like just do like cold food salads lots of stuff just go follow rest or go find recipes that you can pretty much prep the day before. Okay. So can be sitting in your fridge it's ready to go and then you're just assembling at the very end. Find other recipes that you can just assemble that don't need any cooking.

There's lots of those out there. Then really then you're just kind of focused on, well say the protein. So just say, you know, you have the husband, okay, you're going to be fucking cooking that steak on the grill. Yeah. I have the salmon, we'll get like two or three sides of salmon, which is like, you know, you have the husband, okay, you're gonna be fucking cooking that steak on the grill. I have the salmon, we'll get like two or three sides of salmon, which is like, you know, the whole salmon basically.

Make like a pesto butter or something like that, a pistachio butter. To kind of fancy it up. Yeah, just like drizzle or like just spread it all on top. That can go in the fridge the night before. Take it out about 20 minutes before you wanna put it in the oven. That just goes into the oven for about 20 minutes.

It's done. Transfer it to a white platter, basil leaves, whatever. That's it. It's easy. Just keep it like cold stuff, especially in summertime. You can do the cold stuff. Like wintertime, you just do like, you could do short ribs. Like you could do those the day before and you can reheat them the next day. You make mashed potatoes, you do glazed carrots. Like there's ways. Yeah. You know, you do a soup as a starter. So you make that the day before, you just heat that up.

So just be smart about it and just think as much as you can do before. Desserts, that's easy. You can just go buy a cake. What about caterers that go to Costco and then like jazz up the chocolate bundt cake with a few raspberries. They're out there. They're out there and they can get away with it. Yeah. If you're creative with stuff like that, no, I've never done it like, you know, I used

to cater so much like over like, I've been doing it like 19, 20 years now. And I mean, I've catered like parties on Beverly Hills on Rodeo out of my little apartment. Yeah. Like for 200 people. And it's just prepping everything in containers. I'm borrowing my friend's fridge. Like I need to put shit in your thing. And then we come grabbing in my like Volkswagen Jetta and we go over there and they're like,

Oh, you're this big catering company. I'm like, yeah. Like, you know. And you just, you work it out. And so many people do that across LA. I don't, like I do catering and stuff with that But I like more the dinner parties now the 1020 like person dinner party. Well, I love it and let's wait Let's get into some juice. So you had a fun weekend in P town Jesus Christ

Which is a very conservative heterosexual town in the summer. No, just yes, it's very gay and it's very It's a utopia for gay bed. Yeah, that's what Jason, my friend Jason says. And Sonja. And Sonja. And Sonja was there. Tell me about your time with Sonja. She has a good freaking time. I'm hanging out with Derek, your friend, right? Yes. And it's last minute. We're at your juicy scoop 10 year anniversary party. He's like, hey, we're going to Provincetown next year. We have a place. You want to come? And I'm like, oh, I don't know how to work and stuff. And then, you know, my boss is out of town. I'm like, fuck it, I'll just go. So I go, Derek knows Sonia.

She's texting Sonia Rita, Sonia or Sonia. Sonia Sonia Rita. So Sonia Rita, Sonia. And so she's calling him like, I need makeup, I need hair and stuff like that, whatever. And so, oh, when you get in tomorrow, then she calls him and then Tarek's like, she's at the bar, we're going over. I'm like, okay, so we go over. I've never met her.

I've met like a ton of the housewives because I wrote that cookbook, you know, the housewives cookbook. And so, she has two recipes in that cookbook, so I wanted to tell her about them. Then we started chatting. She's really nice. She's so nice.

She is nice and she's a good time. She's having fun. She's sitting at the bar waiting for us and then there's some woman singing Yeah, she gets up the woman comes over to her like can you sing the song with me? She's like, yeah, like whatever so then she gets up. She's singing like Derek's friend Alex is there He starts slow dancing with her. It's like it's insane and it's just like it's just a bar left Then she's like, let's get a photo and I'm like, okay and Derek grabs the camera and she's like Let's like, you know go by the stairs and like like you're taking me up and I'm like, okay, that's kind of fucking weird

but I'm like That's how it happened I'm like this is I was like, oh and then Derek like did the whole thing in the collab and posted it And I was like, well, let's I said I think be more fun if I'm just like lifting you up or you know What I mean, it was so funny cuz a couple, like a week ago, like in my stories I'm tagged, like you know when you see your tag and you couldn't post too. And it's Sonia, my friend Jorge Perez, you know, and her and we're at like Josh Flagg's summer party when he was married to Bobby.

And they were having all these like, you know, parties during COVID that I was like so excited to do anything. And they'd be these lovely parties outside. They would have the testing, whatever. And there were like several of them. And so there was we took one and she's like hot summer nights at Joshy's house. And I'm like, what?

And so I just like reposted it. And people are like, wait, when was this? I'm like, oh, four years ago. I'm like, I don't know I just like reposted it and people are like, wait, when was this? I'm like, oh, four years ago. I'm like, I don't know why she's doing it, but like, hey. She posted one with Luan the other day as well, yeah. Posted me with your million followers and she is really like so silly and nice and you know, if you're someone that watched the show

for years, she's one of the few housewives, if you look at the history of her, she was sloppy and fun and she liked to drink and she was like this and wanting these guys But she never like plotted any mean shit No, that's the thing and that is pretty rare to find a housewife that did six or seven seasons and didn't like hire a private Investigator. Yeah, bring out your tax returns at a lunch. Yeah, like she never was like You know was like light and airy but a bit crazy, you know, like don'tinda was like, you're the hostess with the most issues,

she was like, what's going on? Like, I'm confused. You were like the Holland Tunnel, it's like just mean, it's just like what the fuck, Dorinda? Yeah, she was just kinda like, oh, you know? Yeah, but I will say, just sitting down there, she was just talking and she's like,

I support this, I support this, and stuff should kind of like give you a compliment with like an insult. And you're like, wait, and you're kind of like, oh, thanks. I can you kind of like what? Like, what was that? She doesn't mean it like, you know, to be she doesn't even know what she's saying. Well, when I had her on, she was like, yeah, you do comedy, too. You should open for me. And I'm like, maybe I will. So yeah. And then people are like, how are you not insulted? I'm like, I'm not.

Exactly. Why should she do any research on me? Uh-huh. Who's interviewing her? I would not, I would expect nothing more. So like I don't care. I have no ego about it. Make your money, honey. Yeah. Like you, you know, brought it so much enjoyment for so long. Yeah. Like I watch these people that are like, there's nothing I would want more than to erase the memory of Real Housewives of New York and be watching it with fresh eyes like an infant. Like an infant. Like when you see some 17 year old,

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Scoop. And so speaking of which, Ramona had like a real fun thing happen to her. So apparently, the story is that she, Ramona is 68. I could not believe this. I also couldn't believe that Emma Roberts, the actress is 34. Doesn't that believe this. I also couldn't believe that Emma Roberts, the actress, is 34. Doesn't that seem crazy that she's that old? Anyway, they both look great, they're both fabulous, and apparently they were at an event, and Emma Roberts is a big fan,

and saw Ramona and went to approach her, and Ramona has been very clear to me herself, because I had like a three hour lunch with her. She does not like when she's at something for fans to come up and interrupt her conversations and take photos of her and stuff like that. She just doesn't like it. And if she was sitting right here,

she'd be like, you know what, Heather? You know what? If I'm having like a really nice dinner and I'm talking to like a gentleman who's taking me out, you know, I'm not a cheap date, you know? So we planned it. We had a beautiful, lovely dinner. taking me out you know I'm not in a cheap date you know so we planned it we had a beautiful lovely dinner and now you know I appreciate the fans you know they're just interrupting me and I'm like can I have a picture? And I'm like you know what? You can't! Okay?

I'm having a lovely dinner with this gentleman who's hard of hearing so if I try to talk to you he's gonna miss the conversation and you know what I would like a gentleman's caller okay like a friend and I don't really want him to know that I'm like this big star that gets interrupted all the time Okay, so she even said that she said when she would like With her with her boyfriend. I don't know if they're still together But with whatever the last one was he brought he mentioned the place like the Regency or something Please don't tell me about Tom and she picked some small place hoping that the fans wouldn't approach her because she doesn't want to turn

off a guy because it really, a lot of straight men do not, there's a rare breed, there's a slave here or there, but there's a, most men don't want to be on a show. Of course. That's like 65 and has millions of dollars. They're not like, you know what I'd love to do is have every Midwest housewife analyze my jawline and my pocketbook. Like they don't want it. Okay. My past life, my taxes, my everything. The whole thing. Could you imagine? Yeah.

So anyway, apparently this happened that night and Avery was there and like was like, mom, this isn't some fan. This is you know, Emma Roberts and Tried to and went up to Emma Robinson made good and so there's that story floating around Well when recently I guess they they were maybe at this event called the fountain of youth Which is amazing that they invited Ramona because she's always like, you know what, you know what Bethany you didn't go to my anti-aging line That's what she said anti-aging. She forgot No, no, she said anti, no, she said age, I don't know what she said, she said, my anti-aging skincare line or something like that.

She goes, you didn't go to it, you don't support women. And- Undecided the street. Yeah, she's always like, you know, I have such a youthful glow, a lot of people think that Avery's my sister. You know, and so they invited the founder of Youth, and she sees her and they do like a fun, like story together.

And she's like, I did not know that you're a big actress. Which no one's catching in the comments. Like that's actually really shitty. That like, if a big actress of some importance, of some fame, that you'll stop your dinner and take a photo. But if it's some woman who has like bought your book, bought your Pinot Grigio, watched every episode, has a fan account about you, that person, you

know what? I really appreciate that it brought you some joy, but you're not bringing me joy right now at my table. Like, so I kind of was like, no it should have been, so what that Emma Robertson's a big fan? But she knew it was Emma Robertson, so then it was explained to her. Then after she sees her she's like oh my god sorry I was so rude to you. So then she should be nice on the story. She's like can you believe I didn't want to talk to her? Look how great she is she's a big actress you know who her aunt is?

It's Julia Roberts. You know what I love Pretty Woman. A lot of people are like you're just like Pretty Woman and I'm like oh please I'm not a hooker. No I don't know what she said, but I'm just imagining what it is. That's probably, I bet you Pretty Woman came up. Of course. Of course it did.

Which is what I'm sure whatever Emma Roberts wants to talk about, but what's fine. She's a fan, I love it. I love Ramona. Since we're just on a little housewives, we're gonna get into other stuff. I came across a bunch of clips of NeNe and Bethany. I don't know whose show they were on, because it says it's NeNe's,

but I think it might have been Bethany's recently. And maybe this is old. I don't know, but it was it was really interesting. I find Bethany like very fun and entertaining. And of course, I'd love to see her back on the show being with these girls. But you know she has such a hard on for like Andy and like you know getting Andy and yeah yeah so her whole thing and talking about it was was kind of funny is how she was like Bethany was like you know I did all this stuff for them. I

was like oh I'll get the girls oh I'll go to this restaurant oh I'll do this and then Nini's like yeah I was always like oh, I'll get the girls. Oh, I'll go to this restaurant. Oh, I'll do this. And then Nini's like, yeah. I was always like, oh, sure. I'll bring these girls on the show. Oh, let me tell you who could be cast. And she's like, and then these girls weren't my friends. So then when they started to ask me, I was like, do your own casting. And then Bethany's like,

yeah, why am I doing these people's job? And I'm like, you did the job because you were fresh and new to it. Yeah. And the new people will do the job too. Because what do you, if you're new to a job, you're going to try to impress your, your boss. Of course.

Of course. Once you're making, you know, 1 million a year and you've been on five other TV shows, yeah, they better like pay you and, and kiss your ass and you're not going to stay an hour longer than you need to. You're not going to say five minutes longer than you need to. You're not gonna stay five minutes longer than you need to. Yeah. But like, to that point as well, it's like, you know, like, oh, we need casting and stuff. Don't you want your friends on so you can vibe with them,

so you can have a good time instead of these strangers and then you're forced yourself to kind of like them. So it's like... I'll tell you why, okay? Because you're a guy. Yeah. There's... this is so... I'm so fascinated about how men and women are so different and in raising my sons,

it's made me understand men so much more. Women are kind of fucking awful. And I'm just gonna say it, like men, like someone, I saw a clip of like a bunch of guys, like with their friends and they're busting each other's balls and da da da. And then the guy leaves and then they're all like, he's the fucking greatest, he's the fucking greatest. Women are the opposite, they're nice to your face

and then the girl leaves and they're like, can I be mean for a minute? Everyone's like, yes you can. What was with that? You know like, it's just a different dynamic. We can still be really lovely friends to each other for a lifetime. But there's something about, and that's just a different dynamic. We can still be really lovely friends to each other for a lifetime, but there's something about,

and that's what's different is that guys will be so mean to each other's faces, mean on the golf course, mean on tennis, whatever, like be like, oh geez. And then, but that almost means that they like, yeah, and it's almost means that they like you, like their guard is down versus like, we watched these shows and if a woman was like oh yeah as if that's a real Chanel okay you know and a guy if the world's reverse

the guys would like laugh about that they got a fake Chanel thing but it's like why would you say that that's such a dig that's so even with the gays as well we'll say that's closer to like yes females are they meaner they're still kind of no we just we bust We'll say that's closer to like females, whatever. Are they meaner? They're still kind of- No, we just, we bust your balls. Right, that's what I'm saying. And then we don't hate you though, but yeah. It's not a sexual thing. It's literally, you have a man's brain

and you have a male dynamic with your friends and women, whether they're straight, gay, whatever, it's kind of a, just a different, it's a different thing. And it could also be super, you know, in a unique way of where women should be doing more, be more involved in the shows because these things are more serious. But to maybe like a gay male producer, they think it's like funny. They think it's funny and da da da, but it's actually quite cruel. And like, that's that's why I love talking about this and will forever. But yeah, I feel like what it is about having your friends on

is the intention is first that the girls are naive and they're like, yeah, of course I want my best friend. And the friend has now come to a bunch of things and kind of looked in and seen that their friend's life, season one or two is usually pretty fabulous. They're going to BravoCon, they're getting cute fans, unless you're Ramona, are coming up to them and they love having the dinner interrupted

and they say interesting things and they're like, your friend is my favorite housewife and so then, they'll go to their friend, hey, they're doing casting, would you guys ever consider being on the show? And then that girl goes home and she's like, you know what, I'm cute and interesting, I have an opinion, yeah, I'd like, you know what, I'm cute and interesting. I have an opinion. Yeah, I'd like, I would like to maybe be on the show.

Great, so then she comes on the show. But then the manipulation of the production and the casting will go, wouldn't it be juicy if Nene's lifelong friend turns on her? And so when a Nene and a Bethany then have some years on them or anyone, they are like, no, I'm not good. I remember Tamber told me that she goes, they used to ask me all the time to have friends. And now I'm like, no, because I want to have that friend

five years from now. And if they come on the show, it's part of it is it's a risk. It's a massive risk. And part of it is, is being jealous, you know, which is the typical, which is Beth, which is Teresa and Melissa. Why wouldn't she want your sister and your brother-in-law on the show? Because it was her show. It's my thing. I didn't want you to have the light. I was competitive with, they were competitive always. Did Teresa bring her on? Teresa did not bring her on. How did she get on again, Melissa?

And they knew that, they knew that Teresa wouldn't want her on. How did she get on again, Melissa? They knew that Teresa wouldn't want her on. And so then they went behind Teresa's back and talked to Melissa and then was like, we want you on the show. And Melissa and Joe were like, fuck yeah, we wanna come on the show. And then they came on and maybe there was some discussion. It's one of those things that like, you know,

is still murky, but after 13 years, like, you know, it's like saying Kim Kardashian is only famous because she had a sex tape. Maybe that made her known to some people. But people aren't buying her skims today. And Ryan Murphy isn't putting her because they're like, you know what, you know, I'm buying this skim because I really liked that. The way Ray J did her from behind.

And I said, isn't that isn't happening? So it's like, yes, that's like whether you're a nepo baby or whatever, like sometimes you get on there, but I think that's the thing. It's like, well, no, you know, and no, but you should just want to have your friends and have fun with it. But with women, you don't really the friendships can be very broken. And then you don't want like a nice friendship on the show. Fame in it. And you're like, what are you really here for?

Is it really fame? Is it really fame? Is it really not? Do you know what I always think? Do you know when they do those commercials on Bravo? Yeah. And like, you know, you have the cast of six or seven of them and two of the girls get picked to do like the car commercial or whatever it is. Like they must be raging.

The ones that don't get chosen. Yeah. They must be so pissed. I always think about that. Where it's like a movie. Yeah. Hey girl. Ooh, let's, you know, let's get the popcorn and watch this new movie that's an NBC universal movie

or whatever. Yeah. Do you know what I saw last night? I was just somebody posted like, do you remember you used to do like the Summer by Bravo commercials? Yes, they were so good. And they were cool. They were really good. Falling in the pool.

Yeah. You always saw just like select few housewives. The rest of them must have been pissed and didn't get chosen for those massive commercials. Well, yeah, I mean, I remember with the Bethany, Jill kind of argument from the very start was, you know, Jill got her on the show. And in the beginning, Jill would be like, oh my God, I have this opportunity to go on a talk show.

Can I bring Bethany? It'll be more fun with both of us. So then Jill would bring Bethany. then all of a sudden one that morning Jill's so funny. She's like, oh my god I cast the whole show. It doesn't even matter. She says, you know I get no thanks for it. It's like, you know I'm in Boca. And then she would be like talking to Bethany, what are you doing today? You know and Bethany would be like, oh nothing. You know and then like Jill would turn her TV It's like I got chipped.

And see that Bethany like did a talk show. And she'd was like, why would you have asked me to do it? Why can't you do it with me? And then Bethany was like, I'm not in a girl band. I'm trying to become a star on my own. And they asked me myself, and why would I want to share the seven minutes with you? I mean, that's just the truth. But Jill was like, I can't understand it

because Jill's goal wasn't to have her own talk show. Jill was just like, wouldn't it be funny if we're all together? And that was really the start of like, that's what makes it so hard that women, even when women aren't famous and somebody gets divorced or whatever, women of 30 years will dump that woman and have dinner with the guy and his new wife. There are women that are that disloyal.

Really? And I don't feel like it really happens with the guys. I feel like if the guy was the main friend for all those years, if the divorce happens, like the guy's still like, I'm gonna be friends with you. If it's a couple that they met together through the wife, you gotta go with the woman's friend. Like, you know, but if it's a social climbing situation,

they might just be like, you know, like I always remember that scene in the made for TV movie with Betty Broderick, who killed her, ended up killing her husband and his wife and she calls her friend, she takes over 80s clip hearing and she goes, it's your birthday, I'm taking you out to lunch, where do you want to go? Like we do every year and she goes, oh, Betty, I can't. And she's like, what are you talking about? What do you mean you can't go? It's a tradition. And she goes, Frank and I have been social with Dan and Linda. And she's like, I got you too.

And it was like, that was it. Like 30 years of taking this bitch out to lunch at some seaside cliff in La Jolla, California. Some things come to an end. Some things come to an end. Let's talk about the Valley. Oh, Jesus. Janet had another. Can we just go through each one?

Sure. Janet, let me hear your opinion. Janet, we'll just say Janet had another horrible episode because of what she said on a boat, which is she doubled down and said that Danny, who is married to Nia and who got, you know, has an ability to get a little drunk and made a comment, an imperfect comment to Jasmine who is a lesbian with her girlfriend.

And I guess maybe he did touch their butt. I don't even know if he ever touched the butt. It wasn't in season one and I did not watch season one, but I believe- None of this happened on camera by the way, so it's all being referred to. Did he like tap Jasmine and was like, hey, get me a drink.

Oh, get daddy a drink. Get daddy a drink, something like that. I never knew that he touched her. I thought he just said it. Whatever. Whatever. She said last night. It must have been in touch if she said the word essay.

Yeah. Sexual abuse or whatever. So then Janet and Kristin were really good friends. They did meet through Sheena. It's no secret that Janet met Sheena many years ago. Yes, as a fan. As a fan, like going up like I love the show. And then they like hit it off at like a pool

party became friends went to like Disneyland the next day, and has been friends for many years. I would see Janet and all the Sheena stuff over the years. Yeah. And so yeah, that that did happen, you know. And so anyway, now Kristen like hates Janet because she feels like Janet shouldn't have been talking about Danny like that. And so she gets mad and they're on this yacht or whatever boat thing in Maui. And and Janet's like, I mean, whatever, he sexually assaulted someone. So like, there you go. And she's like, how could you say, now I'm just gonna say this.

This is a reality show. They are drinking. If they're truly doing their job, they are supposed to forget that the cameras are on them. They're not saying this in a court of law. They're not saying this like, yes, it's filmed. They have no say in the edit. Even if Janet went right to the producers,

please cut that out, I did not mean to say it. Sure. They're not going to. No way. So it's like, where she's like, this is defamation and edit, well, you can't sue for defamation according to these contracts because people blurt out stuff.

In real life, you and I talk. We just sign our life away and whatever we get, we get. We can do whatever. You and I get a fight and I say something to you and if this isn't recorded. Unless it hurts the network, then they'll take it out. Right, exactly. And so I'm like, so without Janet being, you know, kind of on Danny about his drinking and this and that, there really wouldn't have been much going on in the show besides Jax

and Brittany. But it does rub people wrong and they are like now saying we want her off the show. She's just obsessed with their relationship. Like it seems like with Nia and Danny. And like I think it's just so awful the way they've treated him in this season. Like I just feel like it's like he's just like standing around and they're like drunk, drunk, alcoholic, like, you know, point like sexual abuse. Like it's like, Jesus Christ, he's just like. He works full time.

He's a tiny apartment. He's agreeing to have a fourth baby. He's like in love with his wife. And I just think it's damaging and like to go and like, here's the thing. They know what they say is going to be on camera. Hey, maybe I shouldn't say that if I want to refer to like, they get me a drink, bitch, or whatever he said, like, like just say like, oh, he just tapped her in the bum and just said like, go get me a drink, it wasn't really nice, you shouldn't be doing that to women.

Here's the thing, if they're all friends, I mean I've been groped over the years in West Hollywood by women like there and stuff like that and I'm like, oh my god get off me, like whatever and it's, and I don't know that person. So if it's a friend that just taps you in the ass and like get me a drink or whatever, I don't give a shit, you know what I mean? Well, the thing is, it happened a year prior, and I think Jasmine didn't have a lot going on. Sure.

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like sometimes straight guys kind of diminish that. So I kind of appreciated that. But then they met and they cleared it up and you could tell that now Jasmine and her girlfriend are like, shut up about it. Like we don't want to be part of this drama anymore. Like we forgave them, we're good. We want to be on the show.

We like them. And it's just, yeah, it's, I don't know what will happen with, I don't know where this will leave the casting for next season. I could- I think a few of them are. I mean, Michelle needs to go.

I think, I don't know. I don't know who you'd keep or leave because I think, you know, Nia and Danny might leave for their own, like, mental health, they live in Santa Clarita. I think they want Janet and Jason to leave. They will not get rid of the one person that made the show go. I don't care how much people hate her.

And she'll be back and she'll be delighted to be back. Jessie will stay. I kind of like Michelle and the guy with the eyes and Jessie. Do you think Sheena and Lala will come back next season? Do you think they'll be kind of introduced? I definitely think they're going to become like regular people and and maybe even like and definitely Tom Schwartz. That's what I think.

Tom Schwartz and Jax. Do you think Jax will remain? Oh, Jax is definitely going to stay. Of course. Yeah, definitely going to stay. If Jax is gone, Brittany needs to go. He needs to have his redemption season where we actually see if he can change or not or he gets another girlfriend that makes it interesting.

But yeah, but you know, the show, the show. It's, I mean, there's lots of shit going on. There's lots of shit going on, but sometimes I still get like, I'm a little bit like, all right, get on with it, you know? But I still thought it was good. It made me honestly not wanna go to Hawaii that bad. I always think, you know what, here's what I always say.

Here's what I always say about Hawaii. I've been there three times. I went to Kauai and everything, did the Jurassic Park thing. I'm like, no matter what, many times I go, I always feel like I'm in Santa Monica. I just do. I was just kind of like looking at it. I'm like, this does not make me like jealous at all. When they went down to like, okay guys, now we have some food downstairs and you see the fans to keep the buns away. And I was like, that chicken

kebab looks Costco-esque. No, I'm not spending three or four grand going there, but I can go to Greece. Like it just didn't look that good. I'm a Cabo girl, so like, for me I'd rather do a two and a half hour trip. Cabo's great, yeah. And I don't know, like I just didn't make me jealous for Hawaii because we know how ridiculously expensive Hawaii is like

Anyway, and then they were like all sick because it was like a double decker boat like She's a travel agent, you know, I'm like, what do you think about this? She's like, well, it's not the best place. And I'm like, but she's, you know, she says like, this place is good. I'm like, no, I said, I'm not going to fucking Santa Monica. No way. It's just like, I, and I know there's like a lot going on in Maui. So maybe that's why, like, you know, we're with the staffing and of course the tragedy of the fires and

stuff. So I don't know if that's like causing like it to look that great. But then while they're having the worst fight was the most beautiful sunset that was stunning They was like she's running out the boat and I could see like just like this line Stunning it was like this orange. I was like wow. I'm like wait the fight like Anyway amazing Speaking of all the housewives stuff. Do you know that I have a big show happening on BravoCon weekend? I'm gonna be going and I'm to be going to your show. Maybe I'll bring you, maybe you can be part of the show. Oh my god. Yeah. I'm going to be there.

Ask me some fun questions, have you do something fun. There are some, so I would love for you to be part of it. November 14th, 10 p.m. HeatherMcDowell.net and get your tickets and you know. We will, we have. Do you have tickets for BravoCon yet? Sorry. Do I? No, I don't, but I would most likely go. You go on sale Friday. I'm gonna probably go, maybe I'll go Friday for sure

so that I have like some shit to talk about. I just want one day. Yeah, so I'll probably go Friday and then maybe I would go the next day or something. But I definitely, obviously I'm definitely gonna go a little, you know, go for it. So I would love to go, if not, it doesn't matter. The show will be hilarious and funny.

And we don't need to play Kate because no one's asking me to like run a panel. Yeah, that's the one I went to in New York City. Remember the BravoCon New York City? Well, Amy and I were there and you invited me and I went with the drag queens from Dublin. They flew in and stuff. So fun. They were so sweet.

So did they ever tell you the Jill Zarin story of that? Like, because Jill Zarin was there. She was there, right? And so I was getting the girls like drinks. I said, I'll get drinks, whatever. So I pass her and I'm like, you

know what? I'm just going to say hi, you know, because I said, hey, Jill, you know, it's Stuart, like I'm with Jeff and stuff like that, you know. And she's like, oh my God, I wanted to meet you and stuff like that. So I go get drinks. And then I come back and I'm not sitting with her. Like I sat down for a second to say hi. So I keep going back down to the girls. She goes, she goes on the show the next day with Jeff or something. Yeah, I met him. It's like, you

know, he never came back. He never came back with the drinks. I was like, I wasn't getting you drinks. And first of all, the only thing she drinks is diet coke. So yeah, like whatever. She was so funny. And yeah, and we're gonna go to her event in the Hamptons. In the Hamptons, oh my God.

And you asked me if I've ever gone before. Just like literally what you're wearing now, just like wear less. Because it's so hot there. In the Hamptons right now? Oh my God, I've gone twice, right? I mean, you've gone a few times, but it's roasted. I in the hamptons right now. Oh my god. It's it's I've gone twice, right? I mean you've gone a few times, but I have I remember the first time I went was at her house When Bobby was still with us, you know, she had the most beautiful modern house

And I think I say I stayed with my friend Lisa and unfortunately Lisa's redoing her house so I won't be able to stay with her this time, but we came with a couple other girls and it was really great. And I took a photo with all the housewives. She had them come from like Melbourne and they were all there. And it was all of us. And then me, she was like, get Heather in here.

And that's when Ramona was like, who's Heather? Like she's like, I've heard your name, who's Heather? And I was like, hi. And we're like standing around the pool and it was so fun. And then also that same weekend was she took me, I think, yeah, I stayed with her and she took me to the most magnificent house

I have yet to be at. It was acres, it looked like Versailles in the Hamptons and it was someone's birthday or something. And she goes, you know, it's a big no-no to bring house guests to dinner parties in the summer. You're not supposed to bring your house guests. That's when you get invited.

It doesn't matter who's staying with you. You're not supposed to go. But I told her you're on TV. And so she was like, okay. So I was like, oh, okay. So that was like back when I was still on Chelsea or something. It was so long ago. So I go to that and that was the funniest night ever.

I read I was dying and then and then and what enjoyed right up to the house It was like, you know, I'm a little perturbed with you. She's like you watch I think you had a lecture She didn't invite me and the girls like Jill what and I literally felt like I was just watching a show Oh, yeah, and then also we went to another rich lady's house Yeah, and I got to get a tennis lesson from like a hot tennis guy. I lived the lid Jill is she looks So connected so great. I got to go to all and it was a sit-down luncheon like my favorite thing to do and then

Then another year. Oh god. I've gone a few times and then and yeah another year was at a hotel At the hotel which I think it is this time and that was just really really fun and then it was always then there was another year that I at the hotel, which I think it is this time. And that was just really, really fun. And then it was always, then there was another year that I was with Patty Stanger and we like were, we hopped on like some rich guy's boat. And there were these girls that I think were, you know. Part of him or whatever, yeah.

You know, like paid ladies to be there. And I get in the jacuzzi with them and I'm like asking them what is it like to be like a yacht girl I was like getting so much scoop and then they're like oh and then Dina Lee Lindsay Lohan's mom Dina Lohan was with us okay and so then they're like let's go back to the book lab act day to whatever places in the attack let's have dinner there Jill has like a girls dinner there yeah so we a girls' dinner there. So we get back in the little boat.

We get in the car. Patty Stanger's driving. Patty and Jill both don't drink. We get there and now we're having dinner. And this girl that met Dina Lohan on the boat comes up to our table and is like, how could you leave Dina Lohan there? And Jill's like, what?

We didn't realize that Dina was on the boat with the yacht people. Like, it was like the funniest night. And I also saw Tom there. Oh, like the Tom, like the boat Tom. Luanne's Tom, after they had just broken up. And I was like, trying to get the scoop. And he was just about to spill it.

And then he was like, I probably shouldn't be telling this lady this and I'm like, you probably shouldn't. It was so fun. So I hope that we can match the energy and the fun that we've had in the past. We will. I just, it's always, I just like melt when I'm there. It's just so hot.

Now I think it's at the Southampton Inn again this year and so, well you never know. Which is nice because you can go inside or whatever. But days are different. So it's like, whatever, I'll she's at the Southampton Inn again this year. And so, well, you never know, because you can go inside or whatever. These are different. So it's like, whatever, I'll find a cute dress. And the money goes to charity and she has all these other vendors. So if there are still tickets, people should go and get tickets. It's amazing. And have fun. OK, now I have talked about and just like that a lot.

And you guys, I'd be remiss if I didn't tell you some important information that I have cracked the code of People thinking it's chat GPT. It's AI who's writing this this doesn't make sense the biggest mistake they recently made was the character of Lisa Her dad died, but he died in season one came to a dinner party in season two and then died again in season three And so I kept waiting for them to come forward and say something, you know.

Lisa was like, I was lying in season one. No, and so then, wait, I have to find it. But Lisa did say something. She has made a statement and she said, I did remember that my dad had already died, and that we'd filmed that scene, but I just figured I would just go with what the writers gave me. Well, an actress I think she was smart enough to see that mistake but realize

that they didn't realize it but if she'd said it then her entire juicy scene of warning her dad going to his she had many scenes last episode because the dad died and it was good acting and she you know it was funny and da da da so it was good acting and she you know was funny and da da da so it was like sad and and so I think she was like I'm not gonna tell them this yeah and so she did it and probably why you're right yeah same thing with this other actress who's playing Aidan's wife was act is in like textile text or something is her job but she was cast as Miranda's boss as as a lawyer 20 years ago.

And I don't think she wanted to remind him about that either. So when I, so then I said, I have got to crack the case of this. And I listened to the, and just like that podcast this morning. Oh Jesus. You guys, I figured it out. Who does the podcast?

Michael Patrick King and all the writers. And they go through the episode scene by scene and why they thought of it and how they came about it and how they even picked the furniture, whatever. And I, listening to it, I was like, this is a bunch of the English faculty at my all-girl high school that think that they are the most brilliant, funny people,

but they're actual dorks. And yes, I'm saying it, and no, I'll never be cast in anything Michael Patrick King is gonna do. I don't care. I have a good life doing my own thing. That is what it is. They think they're so funny.

They think they're so clever. They never bring up the fact- That it's garbage. That about the dad, because I think they probably recorded clever. They never bring up the fact that it's garbage that that about the dad. Yeah, because I think they probably recorded it like months ago, probably each time they finished an episode, it was in the editing can they probably recorded it. They're probably being smart enough not to listen to people like me. They shouldn't. They're doing this for themselves. Never once in the podcast do they say, we thought the audience

would love this. Never once. They're doing it for themselves. They think they're funny. They're like, and you know what? It's writing 101. And then we see the glass crack and it's a metaphor for da da da. And it's literally your English teacher, who is a narcissist English teacher that gets to perform for people that are captive

55 minutes a day. And think they're so smart. They think they're Maya Angelou. They think they're Shakespeare. They think they're a standup comic. And they're, you know, and like that's who it is. That's who's writing the show. It's not all makes sense in the way it's all that it's not all gay men.

It's a mix of people that are the age of the characters. This is what they think is funny. They're not writing it for the 35 year old that loves Sex and City. They're not writing it for the 55 year old that loves Sex and City. They're writing it for themselves. There's no juicy plot twist. They literally are like writing it like a boring book that you got assigned and you had to write essays on and your teacher's trying to explain the metaphor of something that was written in 1942 and you're studying it in 1990 and you're like what like this is so fucking boring and I just like and then they talk about the stupid documentary you know that

she's doing the boring documentary that Lisa's doing and they go you know this is how meticulous we are every screen on there is an actual woman that is an African-American woman that did something great. So while we're doing this, we are that meticulous about we are keeping the background of this documentary actually in truth. And I'm like, so you care about that, but you don't care that a character died already, came back to life to go to dinner and then died again. Like, you don't care. You're just like, you really think they missed it? Yes, I really do. I think they just were like, we should have a funeral scene.

And then someone was like, it should be Lisa, because I have this idea. And they're like, OK, great. Because they talk about how they like pitch stuff. And then they're like, oh, and then there's one. And then the one girl goes, I have a great backstory for this other character. And they're like, you with your back. I'm like, everyone should have a backstory. Like it's like, and then they're like,

and then at the very end, Aiden's pants are split because he wanted to go to the funeral and he didn't have time to get a suit. So the big and tall store were closed. So we wore these tiny outfits and they're like, and this is where it's screwball comedy people. And they're like, I'm like, this is not funny. And then his pants split and then Carrie has to walk

behind him, which is from an old Groucho Marx movie. I'm, I was like, oh my God, but I was like, that's it. It's just not funny. Of course, me, I'm like, the dad died two days ago and they have a funeral and they're earned. You, we all have buried people. If you're gonna go do cremation, it takes like two weeks. Oh, it does, okay.

It takes a longer time. This isn't a Jewish burial where you get them in three days. Sure, Catholic, Ireland. Yeah, it actually takes them a long time. And I'm like, but whatever, you couldn't have time to get a suit. It's just like, they're like, and then we see Seema and her shoes are uncomfortable.

She can't, she wore the wrong shoes. And I'm like, they, so I want to say to the writers, you deserve to have this fun. Do it, it's for you. If we're going to continue to watch it, you are giving me shit to talk about. But now that I've cracked the code, I'm afraid I'm not going to have as much hatred for it

because I know who's writing it. and it's my old English teacher. I can't wait to watch the next four episodes. I have given them many tips of how to make it juicy. They're not out to make it juicy. They're out to make it this metaphoric, like old fashioned writing English something. Last season it was terrible. It's the same kind of tone. It's even worse to say that people say now but like fix it.

They don't want to they don't want to fix it because they're not they're clearly not listening to any of the critics. They are playing with their cats and they're you know going and to an antique store. They don't care what we think this is this show was not for us, it's for them, and they're having a blast. And it also makes sense, because the podcast is also equally lame.

I'm like, that's why they were so shitty about her podcast career, because they don't understand what podcasting is, and they don't understand how boring that podcast was, when Che Diaz would be like, oh, hi, and I'm the non baron and like said a million words and like, you're the straight girl and, and Carrie be like, and then because she does a new one ad, the whole place shuts down and because SEMA doesn't work at her

elite, her real estate firm now, now she's broke because Che Diaz pilot didn't take now she lives in her Abuelos basement and works as a receptionist, as a vet, not even doing stand-up again. Like, it's so weird that once someone loses a job, they're just poor. Poor, I know, yeah. And they never addressed, there's so many things, who cares? I've talked about it too much. I'm gonna let you guys know, just let these people have their fun. The show is not for you. It's for them. It's for Michael Patrick King and his friends But we'll keep watching of course. We'll keep watching. This is juicy

Jennifer Aniston is sparking dating rumors with his hypnotist Jim Curtis They went to my Arca. She was seen introducing him to Jason Bateman and his wife who are old friends of hers He's cute. So cute. People did a deep dive. She liked a bunch of his posts all the way back till May. Liked his book. He's a hypnotist slash coach. Grifter!

He's a grifter. Do you think so? I don't know. Hypnotist! He's pretty like... Who cares? But he does like those lovely quotes and stuff like that on Instagram. It can't hurt. It can't hurt.

He's so cute though. It can't hurt. We I'm fine. Maybe he's super calming and stuff. She liked a quote that said something like he or he like she he did a video that's like let me give you some affirmations like you deserve to be loved. How you were treated in the past won't treat won't affect the next person who treats you. So for someone like Jennifer Aniston,

whose husband, Brad Pitt, cheated on her in front of her face with Angelina Jolie. Was it in front of her face? Pretty much. She went up to Angelina Jolie and was like, I'm so excited. He's so excited about doing Mr. and Mrs. Smith with you and da da da da.

And I know from a very good source that Angelina Jolie would like literally call the house and like ask to talk to him. And she still was like, she did not think anything was going on. He, she had to like let him think he was like an interior designer, an architect. She had to let him think that he was a jewelry designer

and designed the ugliest ring for her. She played along all the time. Then she gets Justin Theroux, and now they're both those guys are with like 30 year olds. And she's hot and great. So let her have a life coach slash hypnotist. He's age appropriate, he's cute. Who cares she's not looking to have a child?

Thank God we're not gonna do that story again. I don't think she's looking to get married. I don't think she's looking. Like I have a friend who's dating someone who's significantly younger. And her friend, you know, and she said, you know, someone said to me, oh, but you know, what's, he's gonna leave you and, you know, when you get older. And she goes, so what? She's like, so what?

I've had my kids. Like I have my own money. I'm not, there's no way he can like take my money. I'm not dumb enough. Like we're smart about the money. He's fucking hot. He's a delight. He's smart.

Like, yeah, if it doesn't last forever, who the fuck cares? Would I rather have some old crusty person my age? Who cares? So I'm like, who cares? Like this kid, this, like why, just go for it and have fun. When you get to a certain age, as a woman, it is nice. It's one of the nicest things God did for us, is that we cannot get knocked up after 50.

We cannot, but a guy can. A guy can get a young girl, and she can say, I don't want kids, and this and that, and oh, I just love, you know, I love being a 30-year-old with 25-year-old stepkids. I love it. And then she gets to be 32, and she's like, if you don't let me have one kid,

I'm leaving. So he goes, fine. And she's like, oh, I'll take care of the kid myself. And sure enough, he has some stroke in Orlando, walking around with a knee brace, pushing that kid, while his 55 year old divorcee wife is in Mallorca having a blast. And the wife is like, that's your karma.

I don't wanna do, like we're all, none of my friends are like, you know what I wish? I wish I could get pregnant again. No, no way So I I say good for her and as Jennifer Aniston, it's like, you know what? I am great. I am good He is fun He takes a little watch and goes like this in front of my face and I fall asleep like a baby And we write tells me an inspirational coach when he gives me inspirational quotes and gives me a nice cup of coffee and just go to

margarita and we are good we're great we are with Jason I call him JJ Bateman not over tells him but they're old friends so good for her okay the Bezos wedding I came across such an interesting thing. This is just that her sister was sharing intimate scenes. Yeah, if you're the sister of Lauren Sanchez, you better- That's her sister? Behind her, doesn't look anything like her. Looks like a daughter.

You know, maybe that is her daughter. I don't know, but the- Lauren Sanchez's sister gave a glimpse inside the journal. You know, sometimes they do that where they don't match the period. But anyway, it could be half sister, it could be whatever, who knows. But I don't know if you caught this, because I don't have the photo in front of me. But maybe we can throw it up in post.

But people are freaking out that in the photo that was used for Vogue, where she's in her traditional dress, and hunched up, she does have the most banging body for a dress. Big boobs, tiny waist, nice ass and you know and leaning over and he's holding his hand and they're you know mid-last like we tried to do. Oh my god yes. When we were at our party it was you, me, Zach, Brandi, Julie, Megan, Megan Weaver and we were like we have to do this thing where you kind of do like a pony

hop. It's like a viral thing. Yeah, we all do a pony hop together and someone films it or even distills. You will get that natural. I'll send you the photograph. You can put it up so you can see the result of it. No, I'm all blurry. You're blurry.

Like you kind of see half of Megan. It's terrible. It wasn't good. Okay meg in, it's terrible. We did it nine times. I know, I know, I know. Anyway, it was, okay, so it was funny. Anyway, the carpet, after there's carpet on an outdoor wedding, that is a grey industrial carpet that you would have had at a Xerox company from 1985.

It's like FedEx Kinko. It's like that kind of gray. It is industrial gray ugly carpet. And there's people that are like, is this a conspiracy theory? Did this wedding even happen? Why this ugly carpet? What's going on? I'm thinking maybe the carpet thing was a last-minute thought because they were like, oh shit, this is old gravelly ground and like people are gonna trip and fall. And no one thought about how ugly it was. The carpet thing is very strange.

The other part is there were videos and photos of her getting ready in the traditional gown that she put out there that didn't match the actual gown. Like the buttons went all the way up to the top. Or they did, I don't know. It's kind of a reach. I don't care. The wedding happened.

The wedding happened. The Photoshop shit on. People didn't think that Britney's wedding happened. That was so funny, that whole conspiracy thing. It was like, was she even in the room kind of like, but they're all like singing like, Papa don't preach or whatever it is with Madonna and stuff. I just remember people were so fascinated

because she'd always wear this choker. Yeah. And I remember there was an old childhood scary book that my sister and I were about, where this woman always wanted to wear the choker, and the husband was like, why don't you take off the choker? Why don't you take off the choker?

And so then one day he's like, I'm taking off that choker while she was sleeping, and he took it off and her head rolled. So I was like, what are you saying? This is like a robot. So it's a thin line that he's like, I'm taking off that choker while she was sleeping. He took it off and like her head rolled. Like, so I was like, what are you saying? Like, like this is like a robot and they thought it was a clean line that they just like put the head on. They thought it was that they thought none of these people really went. And no, I mean, I had the most bizarre thing, but did you ask?

But I know, I know from Sam. And I also know from somebody else whose kid knows one of the kids and it absolutely did happen. Of course. The wedding absolutely did happen. It just was a bit bizarre. But it was when you like slow-mo and all that kind of stuff. Oh yeah, because their arm was kind of like fuzzy and I just remember that.

And also in these photos that were like used for like Vogue and stuff with the weird industrial carpet, there's like a chair, a bottom of a chair leg missing and things like that, which I'm like, that just can, listen, people in jobs are lazy. And sometimes people just make mistakes. Sometimes things aren't as planned out as you think. It's so crazy. They would hire the best Photoshop people to do this

and they would miss shit like that. I just, it blows my mind. Or that's why they're saying they think it's something more. But whatever, I mean. But all the people went there. We saw all the celebrities there. It blows my mind. Or that's why they're saying they think it's something more. But whatever, I mean. But all the people went there. We saw all the celebrities there. Like it obviously happened. I know, and some people are like.

Getting on boats and shit. Some people are like, why are you defending that one? I'm not defending them. I'm saying if I got invited, I'd fucking go, okay? And so would you. I would. So would you, Rosie O'Donnell, so would you, Katie Couric. So would you, Olivia Munn.

You'd all would have fucking gone. To be in a room with all those people just to like see it and experience it, of course. Yeah, just for the Patreon. Then I'd start a Patreon. Yeah. What do you think is going on with Kelly Clarkson? Okay, something's going on because her excuse just doesn't, it doesn't, like that girl can sing. She's well into sing, she can do anything. She does it daily on her talk show. She sings a new track every, and then she has to prep for it. It was really strange. So she was supposed to do, start her residency,

like last week or two weeks ago, like two o'clock the day of the show, she pulled an Adele and said, well now Adele, when Adele did it, she just said, the show's just not ready. And I'm a perfectionist, it's not ready. I kind of believed it too. And then with her, she just said, my voice is not there. Now I kind of, listen, the stakes are so high.

And if she really was like not at her best, you don't want to debut it. And she probably thought, you know what? All the people that got off work and did all that that were mad at Adele, they forgave her and she went and had a great residency. So you know what I am going to do right by me and I'm just going to postpone it a week.

Now do you think she is getting rid of her talk show when it expires in 2026? No, because people like it. Unless she doesn't want to do it. No, I know. That's it. Oh, yeah. No, it would not. It would be she has to get rid of it.

It's so popular. Oh, it depends what she prefers doing. Yeah, I think. Was there rumors that she kind of was, like, stressed out doing it? I think that she feels like she can't be the mom she wants to be, even though, even though they'll accommodate her in every way, you're still not, you still have to be there every day. And you still, and so that's the only thing I was thinking like, either it moves to Nashville or

something, or she if she really likes the Vegas thing, maybe she will do what Celine Dion did. When Celine Dion was in Vegas for so long though, she was like able to like totally be a hands-on mom. Because she- It just takes me back when you say her name, it just takes me back to Chelsea. And it was like one of the first times I saw Heather on Chelsea years and years ago.

And you would do Celine Dion and it was the funniest thing. It would always be, it was my favorite character you would do. But anyway. I haven't done her in so long, so I'm not even going to try. But anyway, she, you know, got the big mansion. She had the three boys, the twins and the older one, and was like able to like they were able to have like their Vegas life.

So I'm like, I think she's testing this out. And if it goes great and she loves it, maybe she will just do that and raise them in Vegas. And be able to like be around in the day. Should she go as long as Celine? Yeah. I mean she could do five years, easily. Yeah. And she sings every, because she's singing every song and then she's entertaining in between. I think so. Because she does other people's songs.

Or she does little stints and then they work the show around. I think maybe the show to Nashville would be great. She could bring surprise guests that would come. Because you can do a talk show. Like I've heard they do a talk show sometimes. Like depends on the talent. But they can, you know, you shoot a week's worth of show in like three days and then you're off for like five.

No, no, but this is every day. So it has to be even if you can't pre-record. There could be one day that you do, when I would do like, one day, there'd be one day, and Chelsea, we would do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday would be two shows. So the second show would be Thursday, and Friday would be a repeat. Her shows are five days a week,

so they have to come up with five. And double day, I mean, even though she's not, it is exhausting, and it is taking away from her kid, from her kid. So that's what I think is going on. Also, I just think she loves being skinny. Sorry to say it, she's skinny now. She's skinny. And so she has a whole new perspective on life.

And she just might be like, I wanna have some fucking fun with my new bod. And she's single right now? She's single. Yeah, maybe Vegas is the place for her. Yeah or she just lost a zest for life because she's taking those shots and she's not excited to go to restaurants, she's not excited to do anything. That happens too. She's gonna have to come off that sooner or later. Then you blow it back up. We'll see. I thought this was so interesting. Like I saw it a few Did you see it? I saw it a few weeks ago. Ellen and Portia.

I don't know if this is real. What the? The Kind Science? Is it a real company? Yeah. Okay. Ellen and Portia are doing a skincare company, according to this, called Kind Science. But because there's so much fake news, I don't know if someone just put this together. No, I saw the commercial.

Oh, you literally saw the commercial. I literally saw the commercial. So it's their company for skincare. Correct. I don't wanna be a bitch. I think it came out like three or four years ago. It's not just recent, but she's in London now, they're running the commercial.

She's in London. I know everyone hates her, so we're not buying it. And also it's called Kind Science, because remember that's what she was saying, be kind, they're running the commercial. She's in London. I don't know if anyone hates her, so we're not buying it. And also it's called kind science, because remember, that's what she was saying. Be kind, be kind, be kind. Have you watched the commercial? No. It's beyond cringe. I just like watching.

She's like this, you know, and we're like, yeah, we're kind and stuff like that. And I'm like, I don't believe a fucking thing you say. You know what I mean? Like that, like I was just like, just after everything that happened with her, it's so disappointing. I don't think she's someone, like JLo has good skin, okay? JLo has good skin.

So when she has a skincare line, you're kind of like, okay, I want to get that JLo glow. I don't think we associate Ellen with glowy, glowy skin. Sorry, two lesbians selling skincare. Well, Portia has, Portia's really pretty. But I'm saying Ellen, it's like- But then. Well, Portia has... Portia's really pretty. But I'm saying Ellen... Of course, yeah. But then it should be Portia.

It should have just been Portia's thing. And then maybe like Portia's in the house and like Ellen's in the background making coffee. I don't know. It's also like, why do you need this product? Like she had so many side gigs. She had interior design. American Express was a huge one.

And she was... when she had her show, she was always trying, there was stories of where she'd find talent and like try to get them going. And then when it didn't go, the kid was bitter. And I was like, okay, I'm a little on your side. Like that's okay. If he didn't pop, he didn't pop. That's not your fault. Like that's not her fault.

Like she thought you were this. She tried, like yeah. She thought you were gonna be the next Justin Bieber and you weren't, you know, like, but I just thought this was kind of funny. I don't know what she's doing. gonna be the next Justin Bieber and you weren't you know, like but I just thought this was kind of fun I don't know what she's doing. Okay, speaking of Justin Bieber What's going on with him? He Was posting over the weekend of just him smoking joints with like a bunch of losers. Yeah, and then somebody wrote under there

Imagine being in your 30s thinking it's cool to post pictures of you're smoking a blunt in your 30s thinking it's cool to post pictures of you smoking a blunt. But then he then he did post a photo of him like kind of with this kid like changing the kid or whatever not showing its parts but just I don't know rolling around and then like hugging Haley Bieber or whatever. I don't know what is going on with him but he'll like do a weird photo of just like his nostrils like I don't know. I feel bad for him. I just I don't know how I feel about that and the whole.

Like why are you just like look at it? Look at this is just like every loser. And this is what you post like it's fine if you're doing it. But why are you thinking that's cool with the table? It's not even like a clean like if you're in like a nice kitchen, like when the thing or like, you know, like Luanne smokes a cigarette, like walking down the street sometimes like if like that would be fine. Like if he was on the side of the street, just having a little like puff.

Like, I'm OK. Like this is like dirty. I know there were eight of them, too. It was a slide show and none of them were different than the other. Like, honestly, like you're putting this like and you can't like when people do slide shows of them in the same outfit, it's like, OK, like Gretchen Rossi just can't decide which is a cuter photo. But they're like barely different. I did that once in Sicily like outside the Four Seasons Hotel because I had to because there were three good shots I was like, I'm gonna say about her outside outside outside. It's literally like killing your own children

You're like I'm so gorgeous in all three of these photos I can't decide and I just need the world to see one where I'm slightly turned to the left one where I'm slightly turned to the right one Where I'm like it's fine You're the right to do that, but this was eight photos of just blood-smoking with guys that we don't know who they are you're not and I don't know. It's people like when did he turn into Britney Spears? I don't know, but it makes me sad because he Britney Spears and Amanda Bynes all child stars but it makes me sad because he, Britney Spears, and Amanda Bynes, all child stars, all had to work so young, couldn't say no to anything, and supporting families and everything else. And he's not bringing out new music, and he's so talented yeah and I don't know what's going on. He was like clean for a long time and he used to go to that

church that mosaic church there on the Hollywood and La Brea there and like remember my friend used to go he's like Justin goes every week I'm like a Ritian like that's crazy so like he went through this whole like spiritual thing I guess just fell off it. Yeah he does not talk about church anymore. No he was super into it. It was that church but then there was also the Hillsong Church. There was one in, I think it was in like the montage in like, in Beverly Hills. My friend Matthew took me one day, I was like, where is it? He's like, oh, it's in like the montage downstairs in like the room.

And I'm like, oh, it's kind of fancy. Yeah. He's like, all the celebrities go. And I'm like, okay. I was always like, could, when I was trying to make it, I was always thinking like, what could help me? I was thinking Scientology, Scientology AA meetings. Like I remember someone's like the AA meeting to go to is the one on Robertson. All the agents are there. The cabin. Yeah. All the agents are there. And I was like, what if I went and just like got, did like a

comedy routine there? Then, then they would see me. You go up and you're like, hi, I'm Heather McDonald. I have a problem. And then I like do a whole bit you know like about like what fucked up family or whatever and like just try to just get anyone to see me you know. That would be a really funny like thing in a comedy show like in like a Curb Your Enthusiasm kind of thing that was so fucking funny. Well I remember I remember that I thought maybe Luanne was doing that. Remember when Luanne was going to AA meetings and she took Sonia to it?

And they were in Miami and then Sonia was like, I mean it was really sad, like I don't wanna see these people on my vacation. They were like, they smell and everyone was just shooting, just smoking cigarettes and why did she bring me there? And I'm like, she brought you there cause she's practicing her comedy routine

in between her bits of her cabaret show. Oh God, I tell you, she was like, she's like, oh darling, so go stew, like whatever, you know what I mean? And she's like, have you seen the show before? I'm like, Luan, this is my fifth time coming. She's like, you're so good to support me. I can buy myself flowers. Oh my god.

I went and did karaoke recently and I was like I have so much more respect for Luanne and Santa ball because I did one song of Miley Cyrus and I was like Exhausted it went on way too fucking long speaking of which okay. I don't if you saw this I came across it last night Alex Cooper, you know podcast caller daddy She got asked to sing take me out to the ballgame at a Chicago Cubs game. Okay, and You know So it's not the it's not the national anthem. They have famous people do it. They play it during the seventh inning stretch

Celebrities have done it so they asked her to do it So they're like and now from caller daddy, you know Alex Cooper and So they're like, and now from Call Her Daddy, you know, Alex Cooper, and so they have her like up in the rafters doing it and she's got two friends with sunglasses like being her sidekicks or whatever. And she did this like weird voice of like, take me out to the ball. Anyway, immediately people start booing.

Oh shit. I wanna say I really felt for her because she's not a stand-up It did not it wasn't being well received. Yeah, but now you're stuck in this song You got to fucking finish it and I'm on a real runtime Roseanne bar got asked to do the national anthem and Been she was bombing so, you know bombing cuz she's not a singer and she always had that voice. And so then to finish up the joke, she grabbed her balls and spit like a baseball player would do to spit out, you know, to try to be,

and then people were like all over, you know, national choir, like she's so disrespectful. She's, she's an awful person, you know. And it was like, no, she was a comedian doing a song that now you can't just like stop the song. You can't just go, okay, guys, that sucks. Like, it's a weird moment. And Alex was in front of the crowd.

She was like in the back, and she could tell like it wasn't going well, but she was kind of like laughing, trying to get through it. And then someone brought up the fact that Theo Vaughn did the exact same thing, did the same weird voice, and everyone loved it. And I'm like, it is such a woman thing. Like it is such a woman, like how disrepute, it's like she bombed, it happened. They asked her to do it.

Why is it because it's a man's game, like they're like a man should, like what is it? Just because it's hard to be a woman. It's like, yeah, that bit didn't work. Like all I know is the only thing I've ever been asked to do is like throw a pitch or whatever. And I'm horrible at pitching. So I knew it wouldn't go far.

Sure. And then that would be the end of it. But when I've had people, I made the mistake of someone saying, would you like to like sing at my wedding or whatever? What you do with the, like you've done it with us. I've seen that parties. You're fun when you do with the like, you've done it with us. I've seen that parties. You're fun when you do it like with a piano and stuff.

I did when it's fun and it's, and people are expecting it. Like where people weren't expecting Alex Cooper to sing. So even when people asked me to like, hey, would you, you know, do this charity event and you stand up, whatever. And I'll say, I've done it enough to know I can MC the event. I can say one liners. I can be funny. I can move it. But the people coming to your event

are not expecting to see 25 minutes of a standup that they might not be familiar with. I'm not Jerry Seinfeld. So, before you get all excited and think this is gonna be the event of the year, it's not like, they're gonna be like, what the fuck was that? You know, like, so it's like, no, you hate. So anyway.

Like keep it tight or whatever. Alex Cooper, I feel for you. Of course you got asked to do it. You're not a singer. You thought it would be kind of funny. Maybe you saw the Theovon thing and saw how well it was received. That's what probably I would do.

But welcome to being a female comic, which you're not. You're great at what you do. You're obviously built a huge empire and you're not even 30 yet. It's great. But of course, the people are going to be so excited that they that something she did failed because she's so young and successful that you know, and yeah, so I now I'm I know now when people ask me, would you do that? I know what what I can pull off what could be well received, how to get out of it when you're bombing. And you cannot get out of a bombing song.

And I've been lobbying for all karaoke songs to be cut down to two minutes. No karaoke, we do not need the inspirant. And you want to end it, your friends want it to end. Even if you're like, even if it's really good, like you still like don't want to listen for four and a half minutes or four, you know what I mean? And it's always kind of sad when you see the person that's like, you go to the karaoke place and like they go every Wednesday. They are good.

And you're like, what was this person's life like to know that they are just like running the roost at this like karaoke place. I used to live up in Napa Valley when I first moved to America and there was a bar called Anna's and they had karaoke every like Thursday night and the same woman, I actually kind of liked her because we all laughed at her. We all like laughed at her because like she'd be like tell me something good and she'd be

like, like she'd do this like crazy scream. You know, and it was every week. And just like she and just like that. She's doing it for herself. Yeah, she deserves to do it. She she's doing it for herself. Yeah. She deserves to do it. She's not hurting anybody. She's good.

It's not for you. It's for her. Just like the writers of A Just Like That. It's for them. Yeah. It is not for us. Just because you're watching it and they're going to, they're not, I, yeah, I'm entertaining you, but I also do enjoy what I do.

But this is for you. Okay, Stu, I'm gonna wrap it up. Okay. I'm so glad that you're here. You're so funny. I do want you to teach me how to make some food. I want you to come out to my new house. Yes.

We're gonna put it on the calendar before you leave. Okay. And we're gonna spend some time in the Hamptons together. And you have a great podcast as well. So tell them where they can find it. You can find me on Instagram, TikTok, all that kind of stuff at Chef Stewart or Chef Stewart O'Keefe. I do recipes like two or three times a week. I do my podcast once one or two times a week.

It's just fun shit. I'm shooting the shit like funny stories. I'll touch on a bit of Bravo, kind of whatever's happening in my life. That's pretty much it. And so, and that's great. So that's it, you guys. Yeah. Now, are you single? Because I know I have a large gay audience.

Yeah. You are single. And can you, are you looking for a particular type? If, like, people said that? Someone kind. Someone kind. Meghan Markle will say, is he kind? I like like, they don't have to be a 10, right? I need like a 6, great personality that brings them up to like an 8, right? And like I need the sarcasm.

Don't mind a tiny bit of drama. Just like, and that's it. Like fun. Like travel. Okay. Yeah. mind a tiny bit of drama just like and that's it like fun like travel okay yeah funny and where will you find this woman anyway wherever you guys go to HeatherBrickDoll.net that's where you're gonna get the tickets for the Bravo show I mean it's not the Bravo show it I mean, it's not the Bravo show, it's my show. See you in November. Also, yes, and all the good things, follow me there.

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