Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - The Valley Heading for Divorce, Amanda’s Summer House Baby Rumor, & RHOC’s Toxic Parenting

Episode Date: July 14, 2026

Reality TV-obsessed expert, Lori Altermann, and I dive straight into The Valley and answer the massive question hanging over everyone's head: will Danny and Nia's marriage actually survive this intense season? We look at the rest of the cast, and what these people might actually be allergic to, before pivoting to the premiere of The Real Housewives of Orange County to contrast their deep-rooted, chaotic dynamics with The Valley's fresh drama. Plus, we explore announcements over at Summer House, tackling the wild rumors about whether Amanda is pregnant with West’s baby and if a pregnancy could actually rescue her reputation with the public. Finally we wrap things up with a serious conversation about the ethics of Real Housewives parenting when a child’s severe illness is exploited as a main storyline. -Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/9l268n36 #CashAppPod Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Savings provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. -Right now, DripDrop is offering podcast listeners 20% off your first order when you go to dripdrop.com and use promo code JUICYSCOOP. -Make your summer wardrobe feel easier. Go to Quince.com/juicy  for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. -Shopify: Turns out you don’t need a real job. Build your own business with a free trial at shopify.com/juicy -Go to https://zbiotics.com/JUICYSCOOP and use JUICYSCOOP at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/juicycrimes⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/juicyscoop⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopTZFUvAeokrJJ6dQ5wuAW1T3nssO6pHk47u7KymJUBtBgKCvfX⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald/⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I'm excited to have a return favorite. Lori Alterman is back in studio. We are going to get in all the juicy scoop, the anger, the love, the opinions, the rants about things that don't matter other people's lives on reality TV. Welcome back, Lori. In my happy place, Heather. Let's get into the Valley. I've been having some strong opinions about it.

all that being said, as long as people like me and you are talking about it, then I say it is a success. Whether you hate the people, don't are getting your tubes tied tomorrow because of the show, it's keeping us talking and a lot of reality shows don't do that. So let's first give them the props. It is keeping us talking. Last we saw they actually went on the most unsublished. fun, horrible Mexican vacation that I think I've ever witnessed. Did anyone, could we say anyone had a good time on the stripper? Was everybody thrilled to go through customs and get the fuck home to LAX?

I think there is one person who had a great time. Who? Daniel and Nia's orange baby. Hear me out. I think, yeah, the orange-haired baby. Oh, oh. I thought she was blonde, but okay. It's giving orange. Okay. Okay. That. baby was able to escape at all, okay, stay in a dark room, right? And never had to be bothered by Daniel and Nia's birthday sex. Oh, my God, you're right. She almost had to be subjected to that. When are I going to have this birthday six? When are we going to plan it? What's up, dude? Can he stop calling her dude? And she's not the only woman who calls dude, though it is the biggest name of affection for his gorgeous Miss America wife is dude.

He calls Lala dude. He calls Jasmine dude. He calls everybody dude. He, um, you know, there was times where I felt like, let the guy have a drink and move Jireira's hips because this trip is the worst. But this last episode, I think the reason people are so compelled to talk about it, it was so hard as a woman to watch. another woman.

And I've seen couples like this. Actually, this is the first time I'm thinking of this couple. Okay. Where I really felt for the woman, she too married her love of her life young. And there was a time he was sober for many years and there was a time where then the drinking had begun again. And she still wanted to have dinners with other couples and things.

and it was really like, oh my God, it's like having like a toddler or somebody, you know, a young child that is well-behaved at a restaurant who doesn't have an iPad for the rest of your life. Like it's, she was managing so much. And she, and unlike my friend that was just managing it at a restaurant, you know, with a couple couples, she's managing it for the world. Right. Now, she knows that the world is seeing that this isn't a good situation. This isn't a good marriage. This isn't an example of honoring your man in God's light. Whatever. It just isn't good.

And the coming around, honey, look, Daniel, Daniel, look at me, look at me, look at your wife. Ignore her. Ignore her. Ignore her. What does that say? Why would you ignore someone that you've known for a few years, Lala? who's having a conversation with you. Why?

And then walk away, walk away, walk away. Can we have a good time? No, you can't. Nobody had a good time on this trip. This trip was the fucking worst Mexico trip. So no reality TV cast trip is supposed to work. But this one is another level. I mean, just bring out a buffet and I start to get hives.

Brittany trying to get ranch on a salad. There's no way she was just eating a salad. We see that later in her bed. And yes, the drunk, creepy cult leader Daniel, let's go. Let's go. And this poor woman who I would maintain, Heather, just like some guys are too hot and you're like, they're just too good looking. Nea's uncomfortably attractive. Her face is ridiculously perfection.

It's awful. She's so stunning. A hair shiny, perfect teeth. she is stunning. I don't know how these two got together. I'm sure they told us their story. His backstory is interesting in the church. The grandfather, who's like 96, is still alive.

He started the whatever it is. Red flag. Baptist or whatever. I'm not sure what kind of Christian church it is. His parents are co-pastors currently in, I forgot what state it is, but it's not California. And then he came out here. They were part of another Christian.

Christian Church out here. I don't know how he became this child actor person being that he was a pastor's kid in Minnesota. That seems interesting. I just hope and pray that this is the one instance, because I don't think there's really been any, where a husband watches a behavior back on a reality show or a housewife show, and doesn't immediately coil up into their ego and take it even more out on their wife for putting them, for making them look bad. Like, will he, with all his training and, you know, spiritual guidance, will he actually watch it and go, I'm about to lose my gorgeous tall wife? I don't even know if she's tall.

She might be five, five. She's taller than him. But I could lose this gorgeous tall wife who probably make. more money than he because she's an influencer and four kids and have to commute from wherever she decides to leave when she wants to leave Santa Clarita Valley. And like he and she wants to stay married. All he has to do is he really just has to give up drinking. He's got to go to rehab. If he doesn't go from the reunion to the rehab place and have a great fucking time there, and give up alcohol forever, this marriage has no chance.

I am shocked that you think that this is the reality TV star that's going to look back at the last few episodes. I don't think he is. You hope that, though. I always have hope for a marriage to stay together with four small kids. I know that she loves this guy. A lot of women, they want the fairy tale, they believe in this kind of patriarchal, Christianity. He's the head of the household. I can be soft. He's the what I don't think there's anything wrong with it. You can have it. But she's getting to a point where I think her

sadness is, oh shit. Yeah. This is not working out for me. This is, he is not seeing it. We're four kids in. The best thing that's happening is that we see that he gets the vasectomy. Because whatever happens with them, they don't need a fifth kid. And he also, if they don't end up together, you don't want him then having more children that have more college expenses, more whatever. So even if they break up, he can go get married to somebody else and make her life miserable. At least her kid's money won't be split up or whatever. So that's all I can say. I mean, I want to believe that people can change. And maybe if this was the ultimate thing, and he seriously got sober.

I mean, Lala was a big boozer on the Vanderpump rules. Party, party, partied. She had a moment. She's been sober for seven years. People can do it, you know. And maybe, and part of it was maybe seeing that behavior playback. I don't know. See, I don't think it's...

No, but I don't think this is a matter of alcoholism or drunk. Okay. I think this is his personality. Possibly. Because the let's go's happen way before drink and his facial contortions and his personality. Yes, it gets way worse when he drinks. But unlike Lala, his just state of being sucks, period. Sorry, Daniel.

It's not a great person. Well, I'm also thinking, though, in his defense, like we've only seen this storyline for the last three years. Well, this is my first season. Okay, so maybe the first season, it was more about, I don't remember what the first season was. Second season was Jackson, Brittany, because that was the demise of their relationship. And in that, Jacks wanted to go after Nia and Danny

because he wanted the heat taken off of him. And I think Jacks was smart enough and had real evidence that he was drinking a lot in the bar. They weren't the perfect couple that they pretended to be or hoped to present or wanted to or want to be. It could be that at home, things are chill. And now in public and cameras and everything,

that's the other thing is that now they've put their life out there. There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube. They chose to go this route versus just traditional acting and modeling work. They're benefiting from like her, you know, I'm sure, getting tons of brand deals and things. and so now now we have to manage it it's like a ship sinking

and she's putting a bandit over here and a bandaid over here and the waters keep leaking and then oh my God there's a leak over here Daniel look at your wife Daniel look at your wife let's get there

it's incredible that birthday party was so bad yes and the amount of devotion and I get a little jealous Heather I'm just going to tell you this no one else okay no one listen Like if my husband puts his hand on his face in a weird way, I get grossed out. If he, sometimes he talks with like a lift.

This woman, the fact her vagina hasn't dried up like a raisin in the middle of the. I think it has. When he said when the birthday sex, she was so grateful to have a baby there. She was so grateful to say, well, she's going to be in our room. home, you know, it's going to be, the nanny has to have her time off, thank God. Can I ask you something about that? And I got every excuse in the world for not wanting to bang my husband of 30 years. Yeah.

But the baby in the room. The baby is only a baby, right? It's not like six. Like that's, isn't it like in a crib? I don't know what babies do anymore. Mine are like 100 years old. Well, no, of course people, she could. And the baby's not going to know.

It's not in the bed with them. But she doesn't want to. No. And do you know that? she's tired and it's the worst trip ever and she's mad at him. So she doesn't want to, but the cameras are right there as she's finishing doing her hair and he's like, we're going to have some birthday sex. And she's like, well, and the baby's going to be in the room. And the nanny has to have her nights off because we're going to the party without the baby, you know? So what's interesting to note, Heather, is that this big birthday baby had an opportunity to bang some birthday sex out. And instead of following his disciple, Nia, back to the room. even though Bravo had taken down the cameras, production went to sleep, and even Manuel at the bar was saying, you know, lights out. He went to the bar alone, ordered a tequila with Sprite, which is a huge sign of alcoholism.

Why is it such a huge? Oh, but by yourself or the drink order? I don't know. There's something about that. But I love it for Danny. I love that Daniel at the end of the night, knowing cameras are on, which is fascinating when I talk to these reality TV stars, they do forget. cameras are on. They do. And also I just think you forget also because you're probably

drunk. He's probably five drinks. If we counted the first of all, he's probably sneaking drinks. And then you're thinking probably the first drink was when you spent the afternoon on the boat. So probably the first drink was by noon. You probably had five on the boat.

Came back. Had to get ready for the dinner. Maybe took a nap. Maybe took a shower. Probably had a drink in the room. Heather, why was the room so dark. It was so dark and depressing their hotel room. I don't know. It was all, I mean, and then the Tom, I mean, Tom Sanneval, he just like slept and he, you mean, Schwartsey. Oh, sorry, Tom Schwartz. But Tom Sandville's probably sleeping right now. Well, we'll get it to him

a minute. Yeah, Schwartzzie had a hangover. That's a shock. Yeah. And I think Michelle is very, Michelle and Lacey, that was a really great moment that they're just like, who wants to film with her ex and the ex's new girlfriend. But we're all getting paid to be on the worst vacation on earth. And at least they're both decent women, decent moms. And I don't think either one of them want to fuck Jesse. My hot take is maybe they like each other. Because they definitely like each other more than Jesse.

I think that she... That would give it a storyline, Heather. I think at this point, Michelle realizes that when her daughter is there, she probably has a good time because Lacey's daughter's the same age and Lacey seems like a good mom. Listen, she needs a babysitter for when she's with Dr. Dre. Right, right. We'll see if that's still going on. Do you think it's still going on?

It is. Oh, it is. Okay. I also think what she said is true. It's like she probably told herself, you know, that he wasn't affectionate, he wasn't loving, and that's just him. Mm-hmm. And then to see that he's. he can be a good boyfriend to somebody else right in front of her. I understood Jesse's point because he was like, well, if her googly-eyed boyfriend was still

around, she'd be like humping him in front of me. Totally true. But I thought that was such an interesting thing because I remember I had another friend and she and her husband had a horrible, volatile marriage situation. And then they broke up, got divorced. He married someone else. They had a child. And the two kids would go and spend time with them.

And she's like, what are they like together? And the kids were like, great. They're great. Like not, it's not always that your ex is the worst person on earth. It can be that you bring out the worst in each other, or you're not a good match, or they have fallen out of love with you. They're not attracted to you anymore.

because you turned them off or whatever because of the things you did and you didn't realize you were doing it. I mean, that's a long, that's why no two marriages are the same and you can't. But I find that very interesting element of the show. Like my husband never has my back at restaurants. I could get a sandwich, like a turkey sandwich

and there could be a shoe inside with a puppy tail and I'll say, oh, do you mind I got the right? And he'll say to the way, she's fine. This is fine. If I saw him at a restaurant with this next hoe and the woman's like, I don't have my tap water the right temperature. And my husband goes, now, fix this woman's water. Yeah. Break my heart.

But that is actually very funny, but also a great point. Like, yeah, I would like to hear from other women that, I mean, on a light, on a pre-marriage note, I know girls that have taken a little school project. A.k.a. a boyfriend. I know what you're saying. Got him a better haircut. Oh. Got him some cuter clothes. Gave him a glow up.

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Luke says, I don't know that a wedding is going to happen with Kristen. I find it fascinating. There's nothing wrong with Luke. He, you know, it's articulate. He seems like a nice guy. He likes to fish and hunt. I don't know what his career was before he met her and became a reality star on a billboard on Ventura Boulevard. Reality TV is the only form of entertainment where because you slept with someone who was already a reality TV star, you can too be a star, Britney included. It's kind of amazing. It's really kind of amazing. And so now they're this couple that we're watching, which their story is very real, though depressing. It's very real. But I just saw her recently on Instagram and she is like,

I took the shot. I've lost 20 pounds. I'm excited for summer. Let's go. Good for her. Seems happier. Hopefully they're past the postpartum stage in every way

and they can find why they ever liked each other in the first place. Well, here's my feelings on Kristen Doty. Yeah. Shot or not, she's boring. She's a whiner.

I didn't like her on Vanderpump. I don't like her on Vanderpump. I don't like. like her on here, I don't understand the Luke of it all, that he moved to L.A., why? Like, there's- I don't know what his job was before. Was he just like a farmer or something? I don't get it. And then she's like, well, he doesn't like it here because he can't hunt and whatever. And I'm like, well, then how did he end up here? I mean, do they meet on like a Tinder? I need to know that backstory. Oh, I do want to know a chance. I'm sure it's out there.

I'm sure a juicy scooper knows that I don't understand how these two got together. I think he's low-key kind of cute. Yeah, I don't think he, I mean, they have the cutest baby ever. No, I like the orange baby. Okay, well, I think all the babies are cute. Speaking of fishermen, we didn't talk about that fish that Luke pretended to catch. Pretended. What do you mean?

There's no way he caught that fish on that Mexican trip. Why would he lie about that? Why would anyone lie on reality TV? I don't know. Okay. Well, I don't care about fishing. so I don't care if he did lie about it. It was weird that he was fishing inside of a rock.

That's what I'm saying. No, he was like he was on a rock. I'm like, is there like a tiny piece of water there? Why was this fishing rod thing between two rocks? Why wasn't he like out in the sea? If I'm Kristen, I don't care that he's out all night getting drunk. I'm like, why were you in the middle of a rock fishing? And their room was dark too.

You know what? This makes me never want to have kids. Wait, I already have him. Okay. So then we get into Brittany. Oh. I mean, I don't know what's up with Brittany. I think Brittany is allergic to plastic surgery.

I just don't think plastic surgery is what worked for her. I think she's unfortunately having too much of it. I don't know who this plastic surgeon is. I heard he was the same one that did Jackson's four nose jobs. So I don't know why they keep going to him and why it took four times to do. a nose job. So, you know, there's some other TV doctors. It might be because he was using his nose on illegal substances. Oh, who? No, I know, but allegedly. The pasta. Anyway, so I mean, she's a beautiful girl. I don't know. I think that's the problem. I think she needs to stop

with that. It's so sad, the tummy tuck and the boob reduction and the chin lipo from two years ago that I don't think took. I don't notice any difference. And she's a beautiful girl. And it's just like maybe just stop that. And then imagine you still have like open wounds and you have to go to Mexico. Didn't seem to stop her, Heather. I know, but you have to go because of the job.

But like, does anything sound worse than you're like still wearing bands around your body and you have to go to a Mexico hot trip? To be fair, She didn't wear the bands after that fabulous gay bar they went to. She did. They tried to get them on her, but she was eating French fries in bed instead. I thought that's what she had on the back of the low-cut dress. But then they went home and they tried to get the faeccaque to girdle on.

And instead she ordered rooster. Listen, I love dronquites. I just like to do it at the bar. I also think, first of all, she's allergic to something. And we thought it was Jacks, but he's been gone and it's not. It's not shellfish. It's not shellfish. I think it could be tequila.

I think this is what Brittany should do. She should get a sponsorship, a brand deal, with one of those allergy testing something. This is phenomenal. And she needs to be tested for something. I bet she'll find that she's allergic to tequila. And good choices? Maybe all alcohol, but like definitely tequila and maybe bad choices in men. And then like maybe some other things.

It could be something like, who knows? It could be gluten. It could be something. There's something going on there that plastic surgery is not fixing. And that's what I think that needs to be her next thing. I think she's been so focused on probably her son's diet and everything like that because she's such a good mom. Now it's time to like she needs to get a wellness thing and figure out. what is going on.

See, the fans and the juicy scoopers don't realize the heart you have and that you really are at this from your heart. You want Britney to be better. I want Britney to be better. I sometimes worry about Kristen and Luke and like, you know, this baby just was born. Like, where is this child going to go to private school in L.A.?

Is this show going to continue for the next 20 years? Like, what is the plan? not everybody has a Vanderpump hotel to fall back on. I don't know. I don't know, but it's worrisome. It's a lot. And though, but it's entertaining. Now, Zach has a boyfriend.

Oh, I thought that was his child that he adopted Benji. That's his boyfriend. This is my first season. I thought that was his child. No, that is his boyfriend. And he is cute, but I thought it was interesting because when Lala was going off and she's like, you Polly Pocket piece of poo, or whatever.

She's talking about Danny about how short he is. And Benji, who is also height challenged, is laughing. And I was like, well, I don't know that that's the,

what is it, the pot calling the kettle black? I'm like, I don't think she'd be laughing at the Polly Pocket conversation because you're pretty tiny. He's saying, he's laughing to him.

And I'm short and it's funny. Good for him. Yeah. We never see a confession with him or with Jasmine's wife to be. So they seem like they're playing. doesn't lovely people.

But what are you going to do? If they're not an outgoing personality, then we don't hear from them. So, I mean, I guess that says a lot about Luke that he became such a big storyline person. Janet, fan or not? First season, and I will say this about Janet. I don't know that she needs to be on the show.

She's not exciting or bringing much. But she called out Daniel. And that's, that, that warms my heart. And she's not annoying. I do know from people that she was in past seasons. But this season, she's tempered and she's not loud and she keeps. And she's bisexual. That's new.

Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. I mean, that might be the most exciting thing that's happened on this season. That and maybe, maybe seeing Daniel in his kitchen back in Santa Credita, wherever it is. Santa Clarita. By the way, he was sober doing this, Heather. This was not drunk.

flexing all the time. What's the flexing? Daniel does. You know, like we said, this is, you know, hundreds and hundreds of hours of film. Okay. And they put it together to make them giving him a break, okay. Look like a bad couple. There could have been some times where he made her breakfast in bed and filmed the whole thing while he came back from the park with all four kids. We didn't see that. I don't want to see that. I doubt it, but I don't think so. Okay, moving on. Bethany Frankel made a big announcement

that she decided to stop her podcast at IHeart. Okay. Which is interesting because IHeart also had a big thing of letting a lot of people go, including hosts of podcasts, just at the same time. Just at the same time. Just coincidentally made IHeart's job easier. Okay.

Because she was like, hey. I'm not going to do this anymore. And they're like, oh my God, that's so great. Because we had to cut a bunch of shows. And yours wasn't one of them. But now maybe you can save someone else's. So it's like, you know, she's always doing charity work. And I literally was just asking a friend like two weeks ago,

does she still have her show? Like I didn't know. And she would just ran about things for 15 minutes. The show that was good of the podcast that she was getting run is when she just decided. to rip on her ex-husband and what a horrible, horrible divorce she went through. There was no doubt that it wasn't a horrible, horrible divorce. Do you know that Jason Hoppy, former star of Bethany is getting married and Bethany turns 40,

ex-husband, is the father of a baby with his girlfriend who was the nanny of Sarah Jessica Parker? This is true. this is some scoop. Yep, this is true. Say it again for the back of the church. Sarah Jessica Parker Had a nanny. Had a nanny

who she is still friendly with. Of course her kids are grown now. She has twin girls and a boy that are all like college or older, okay?

That nanny who she remained friendly with fell in love with Jason Hoppe and they have a little baby together who's Bryn's half-sibling. Weird is Mr. Hoppy? live because he's from close to where I'm from in Pennsylvania. I think he's still in the New York area.

How does he meet the nanny? And then they moved to Florida. Okay. And I think it's fine because she's at an age where she can make her own plans with her dad and whatever. I don't think it really involves Bethany anymore. But remember in and just like that, were you a fan of watching it? No. In just like that, Sarah Jessica Parker is with somebody. And, And they're talking about going to the Hamptons for the summer. And she's like, one of them said, I don't want to go to the Hamptons and whatever in the summer anymore. And she's like, why?

Because Bethany Frankel is there. And it was just this weird line that a couple of people picked up. And some people thought it was because Andy Cohn is best friends with Sarah Jessica Parker. And it was weird to get to dig. That could be it. But it's also that her former nanny is Jason Hoppy's partner. I love this. But anyway, she did a couple episodes about her horrible divorce, and I'm telling you it was riveting.

But for legal reasons, or maybe because it was bothering her daughter, she had to take that down. But we all heard it. Yeah, but it was only like two episodes. Yeah. And so anyway, she's done with it. She says she makes $200 million a year. No, I don't think she said that. I think she said she makes $20 million a year.

on just being an influencer, where she'll do this thing while she'll be like, oh my God, look how bad my hair dye is. This is the worst hair dye job I've ever had. This, who does this? Why does it look so bad? And then four weeks later, she's like, I'm so excited to announce that I paired up with this hair dye company. And now I'm a partner. And you're telling me that deal wasn't already in the works. Is she eating chicken salad the whole time?

Yeah. She's making her money, filming it 24-7. And she doesn't need to do the podcast anymore. So be it. Who cares? Not a fan of Bethany Frankel. She created podcasting, by the way. I said it.

I loved her on New York, though. Well, speaking of this, this comes from Housewife historian, too. Look at that airbrush. She only airbrushed. Ramona airbrushed just herself and not Avery, her daughter. And Avery, who is also very attractive, who is about 32 years old or so, looks older than 65-year-old or 68, I don't even know how old she is,

Ramona. Phenomenal. Like, not a fruckle on her chest, smooth neck, full cheeks. I mean, I've done some bad parenting things. Many. But that is some evil. Again, like Bethany,

I'm not a fan of Ramona. Well, you know what? I'll tell you exactly what happened. Okay? Oh. Hey, Lori. Okay. A really great time with my daughter in Paris. Okay, we looked really great.

And, you know, Avery's not like me, okay? She's not really faint. She's really careful. She looks. And I said, do you want me to just do a little filter so we both look a little fuller and younger? And she's like, no, mom. You know what?

I like the way you look. I don't have to wear a lot of makeup. I'm really proud of myself. I go, fine, well, I'm going to touch up myself then. She didn't want me to touch her up. Okay. Is it weird that I can watch this for hours? This is my friend Paige.

Okay. Davis. And she, um, Paige Dave is her. her Instagram. So she's very funny and she does a little fun takes and things. And she had some people send her a video of this girl talking about in a car doing a hot take about, hey, we're millennials, but at least we're not Gen Z who go out to dinner with a hoodie and those star Zit patches on your face.

Okay? Funny, right? You laugh. Yeah. It gets sent to her. it's her body. In this car, the bathing suit, the thing, this company put an AI girl on her head whose brunette, it's her voice. It's just not her face.

It's not Paige's face. And then they put like star tattoos on the girl's neck, I think, to kind of camouflage the fact that it's a different head, I don't know, or just make her look hipper. And Paige was so funny, she was like, I mean, I'm cute, but this girl was cuter. This AI version of me was cuter. I have freckles, but she kind of had cuter freckles and was thinner. And it was my joke and my take. Damn.

And she sent it to Instagram and a bunch of her followers have also sent it to Instagram and they won't take it down and they won't acknowledge it. Well, very recently, Meta, which is Instagram, has a feature now where they can take your likeness AI it and use it. Now, it may have been turned off in the last day. so, but that is not cool. Right. Wow.

And so that was amazing. Like, that's a scary thing. So hopefully she'll be the leader in that this doesn't get allowed. And if you do see it happening, hopefully Instagram will then take down that person's account. Staying yourself out there, Heather. Real dangerous. Okay, season 20 of Real House as a OC premiered. And what are your thoughts?

I'm so excited. Okay. Great. Did I just do that? Did I like do that kind of? I am excited because unlike the Valley, this is an organic group of friends. They have history. I buy it.

They've been around forever. It's a beautiful setting. And the drama is a little bit more, even though it's immature, mature. And I just, maybe it's the nostalgia in me. It makes me feel effing old. I just posted a video of what I look like. in 2006 and what Vicki looked like. It's been a minute.

But I'm excited. I think the premiere was strong and I'm there for it. Well, I just had, Peter was, my husband was just with me and he goes, oh my God, look, we just popped up on my Facebook memories. And it was when we went to Vicky's house, my family, a couple days after Fourth of July, she was having a pool party. We didn't know that it was being filmed. Wow.

It was being filmed. and I met her through a book agent. My book agent was talking to her about possibly doing a book. And Brianna was a fan of Chelsea lately. So he was like, oh, they'd love for you to come over. I come over and Tamara's there. And Sophia has got the floaties on.

Oh, my God. My son is just a little older than Sophia, but he could swim. And the scene is she's crying with Simon about Simon being harsh on the son Ryan. And in it you just see my little four-year-old who's now, you know, at Oregon,

University of Oregon, going up the stairs and going down the grotto slide and going up the stairs and going down. It's like in the show. Like it's been so long. It's like crazy. It's so long. And I hope that the grottoes are gone now.

She sold that house. Yeah, but I just hope in general. I think grottoes are coming back. You say grottos are coming back. Okay. Well, Hopefully Brooks is not. Yeah, Brooks is not.

He's happily married. That's incredibly married. That's really cool. So, I mean, yeah, whatever. It's been a long time. But we see Vicky and Shannon. And, you know, they are older women. You don't, you are not as agile as you once were.

However, I think it's a little, I mean, I don't know if it's an act or whatever with Dana Bador. But it's like, I mean, or if they just take all the scenes where she's like, and falling over and she's on the bounce house that Heather's party, why would she get in the bounce house? Because she knows, like, this is what they want and she wants to be a good employee. And, you know, her whole life is just walking the two dogs to get a pup be cone. And, you know, I'm like, rest in peace.

Yes. I find it just like enough with the Pratt falls and stuff like that. Also, because you shouldn't try to do that. You could actually hurt yourself. Well, so I'm someone I relate to Shannon. Yeah. And the fact that that is what I'm like. And I am twisted and turning and the skims are, that's what they call space skimzer.

And I fall out of cars. I recently was on a vacation. And I was going into a boutique. And I slipped and broke my foot. and I spilled coffee. So I don't, for someone who does it, I feel like it is real.

I do. I don't know what I wish more afraid. For it not to be real or for you. Because you don't want someone to act that stupid. I guess, yeah, I don't know. And I guess if you go back a bunch of these and she couldn't do an exercise class and things like that.

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Like, I mean, we're just being honest. I'm like, you have a decent condo in Porto Verrara, which is like, whatever. You have a nice house. But you've had your own business for 30 years. You've been on a TV show for 20 years. It is weird. Is it something that you should be bragging about? Like, I would think that you would be, maybe that's why she was so fucking jealous of Terry and Heather.

Because whether they got a little nest egg and made it. grow, I don't think she made her money grow that wisely. And look at like what Heather and Terry have built. Like, you know, they have makeup lines and all these other things. I mean, skincare lines and all the TV shows. So yeah, I think that's a little, yeah, I think as people get older too, she's like, this is, why don't I have more at 64? I mean, she said something so I thought was snorkey, even though her and Andy Cohen, I think, are sleeping together now. she said something on Watchwood the other night she's about not getting paid enough

for all the work and even he said if that's not the most Vicky thing I mean when is it enough Vick Well it's listen she's tried to do other businesses Yeah she had wine by wives didn't work She had Vicky's diamonds What she also Wait it was like a jewelry line

She had you know Different things going on And you know And she always went back to having to do the Cota insurance, which is a great career. But still, maybe she didn't do that right. Maybe she shouldn't have had so many people under her. Maybe she shouldn't have been an independent contractor selling it. And you will get to just like the way, like the way Maricio used Kyle to get listings. Yeah. I said to Kyle, like before he had the agency, I said, now there's got to be some women

that are fans of yours that are like, well, let's take a listing appointment. with Maricio. Maybe I could be friends with Kyle. And Maricio knows that and he brings you to the listing appointment. Has that ever happened? She's like all the time. All the time. Why not? I'm like maybe if Vicki had made it more about get your insurance through me and we can all, you know, and you'll get to be my friend, maybe that would have been a better way to like, I don't know. Like I just don't know that these people utilize this 20 years of being on TV with no residuals and no health insurance to the best of their ability. And yes, I do worry about these people's longevity finances, 401k, side businesses. Am I the only Bravo fan that cares like this? Well, you do care a lot. We've talked about a

business that you could make about just like there are advisors for athletes, there should be for, especially the young reality stars. And in terms of Vicky, you know, Gina is using the show. and I guarantee you, her and her fiancé forever are using this platform to sell houses. Gina is the most together one of them all. She got out of a bad marriage, an abusive marriage, and still remains friends with him and his wife. Yep. The kids have not suffered from that divorce. They have flourished.

She got a DUI and has been completely so, not completely because she says she does gummies, but she doesn't drink alcohol. and hasn't gotten another DUI. She got better hair extensions, which is the biggest thing. She got a better house. She's now her husband or fiancee, she's taking care of six kids

because it's not shared custody anymore. So she's taking on three kids that are not her own and she's doing real estate that will hopefully last after this show doesn't. I mean, is she iconic in the sense? Does she have the lines? No. That we will quote for the next 20 years?

No. but, you know, I don't worry about her. I go to bed at night not worrying about Gina. Yep. I won't worry about Gina and I want to thank Gina for not making me worry. So who on reality TV are you just sleepless? I'll tell you, Gina, did you hear what happened to Gina this weekend? Not Gina, sorry.

Jen. Jen. I did, in fact, hear this. She put out this post. Yes, my son is the one who started the Lundair. Landero Fire. Lendero Ranch is where at one time Tamara lived. It's nice. And I don't know if Jen lives there right now, but I think she does.

And it's a cute area inland from the beach, expensive. And he, along with other minor boys, I believe they're all minors. So when trying to figure out which son it is, I believe it's the youngest son who's adopted. Is it a speeder? the one that went 150? No, I don't think it is. How many kids does she have? The reason I don't think it is

is because I was doing the math and it said that he was 17 when they were filming that scene and that scene was in February. So I'm guessing that kid might already be 18 and if he was 18, they would have said his name. You think a lot about this.

I love it. So I think it could be the younger son. He's probably with a bunch of 13-year-old other kids on their little e-bikes, little Lord of the Flies, little, you know, if your friend jumped off the bridge, would you two? Brain not formed. Summer days of not doing nothing and they started this fire.

Thank God nobody got hurt and no real property like no one's home. But of course, we know how bad fires are in California. And now it's, you know, it's one thing to have that happened to you, but now everybody knows about it because she's a TV star. So that's pretty bad. and, you know, and then we've got Emily who, you know, has got a new, like a completely new body. So her whole personality was fat jokes and I'm bringing a turkey into the sauna, turkey sandwich into the sauna because I'm so caring about eating and that's my personality. Now the personality is working out seven days a week and talking about how her son has an eating disorder while she works out seven days a week.

It is so messed up and I, this is not a secret. I have a child that suffered terribly from me. And I'm looking at this mother who's got a huge platform and I'm thinking, shut up. Do you privately. But the fact that your whole being now is thin is bad parenting there. Where Jen's son who set a fire, Jen may be at no fault for that. but if you are going on TV constantly talking about body image, your body being skinny, I feel fat, crying that I am fat,

I think it's bad parenting. I, you know, look, she signed up for the show and someone would argue when you sign up for the show, you sell your souls, you sell your children to Andy Cohen. Okay, you know, and the only way they're not going to be seen is if you have a nasty divorce with your husband and the husband says they can't be on the show. Other than that, they're on the show. They don't get paid.

They do not get paid unless you want to put 500 an episode into an account. Otherwise, they don't get paid. And then she's, how is everybody? Well, Keller's great. Luke is not. And they show their two faces up, Luke and Keller. And I'm like, my God. Like, this is forever.

The only thing that I do think is good that Bravo and Annie Conan has done is they started, a job that Nepo reality show kids could go to which is a whole other franchise I think this kid's gonna be on there? No, I don't. Do I think this kid's gonna write a book like Colin?

Gosselin? Oh, maybe? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe he'll be a bestseller author. I don't know. I hope not. I think that she's, I think that she's a decent person. I don't think she's a bad person. I don't think she's an evil person. No. I understand that now you're in it.

And if you don't, and they convince you, you could help with other people. Other people have helped her discover what was going on with this kid. But to still talk about this child and his medical conditions that forever, 10 years from now when he's in college. And someone's like, oh, I'm dating this person. Oh, let me look him up. Oh, my God. This is this kid. Like, I don't know.

Like, you want to, like, I'm just saying, you're screwing up. someone's career because you are starting the digital history. I don't know what she could have done in it because if she didn't share it, then she wouldn't be sharing her life. I just think it's a really hard thing to be a real housewife because it's not just your life. You're signing up to share all about your kids. And that's why Sidney probably doesn't talk to Tamara and things like that because

it's like it's not like you just have a fight with your mom. then three days later you're like, whatever, let's not talk about it. It's now on the TV, six from now, it's now on a repeat. It's now on a Bravo Saturday thing. And now you're 25 and you open up your phone and people are like, you're rude to your mother at the baseball game. And you're like, oh, fuck you. Like, this is rooting my day. Like, I just don't think people think enough about that. But then here I am. I'm watching it. I'm talking about it. So am I guilty of it? I don't know. I don't think so. I think that. And like I said, I've made a million mistakes as a mom. but there's no and i love money and i love to be on camera but there's not enough heather that i would

ever expose my kids now it doesn't mean i'm better than anyone it just means i know how many things i will naturally do innocently do to screw up my daughters i don't want to add to it and by the way she's a lawyer it's not like it was the only way to put food in her mouth and her little husbands Well, I think she and the little husband have a very interesting relationship. Right. Are you talking about the height challenge? Everything about it. Like when you talk about it, they're like, yeah, we, he asked me to marry him on Google chat or something.

Then all of a sudden they get married. Then they have three, they go through in vitro. They have three kids. Apparently his parents helped finance their life, which is fine. But yeah, is it easier? to be on reality TV than be a lawyer? Fuck yes. Is it more fun? Yes. Is it more,

is it better to go to the gym seven days a week than go to court? Yes, it is. I'd rather go to court. Than the gym? I'd rather do anything than go to the gym. Okay. Well, her body looks great. She is smart. Like I said, I don't think she's a bad person. I don't either. I just think it's a bad parenting thing.

I think it's a risky thing, which now, just like I said, the toothpaste is out of the tube. So now she might as well shed light on this condition that I guess other kids have and hope that it all works out. But it's just, you know, my bigger issue, and I have an issue with her exposing this kid's problems, is like I said, her talking about weight, her body, and all of it when she has a daughter and a son that actually has an eating disorder. And that's the hill I'll die on. Well, then someone else could argue, well, isn't it better that she is eating healthy and is fit?

She's like, that's not what it's about. She doesn't make it. I wanted to be healthier. She's very clear, I want to be thin like everybody. Well, and that can also really change. That can be very interesting. If someone did struggle with their weight, wanting to be a size, a couple sizes smaller than they always were. And all their friends were a few sizes smaller and they were, and they're living in Southern California, they're on TV and they have to do bits It's about turkey sandwiches. And now they are now, I mean, if she goes and does the fitness, the tan, where they paint them the color of wood floors and they have to do the fitness competition. Oh, I don't know what this is.

Remember Tamara did it? Oh, yes. Yes. If she does that next season. Then you're out. Maybe. Maybe. I'll probably never be out.

Right. True. Which is fine. They're doing the right thing. Then if I keep watching and talking. I'm addicted. But that's probably going to be the next step. and that's fine.

Like if that's what brings you joy, I'm imagining it would be if all of a sudden, I don't know, I looked completely, I walked in, I mean, it must be almost like, you know, you're stepping into a whole different thing that you just never experienced ever. I'm sure. I don't know if she was that size at 15

and then through childbirth, whatever. And now she's back. Or she really never was, she says, I was never this fit, never in my whole life at 15. I'm the most fit and everything, which is great. It's all great. That being said, it can really change. Of course.

Look how different, like in a few years. A few years ago, she was a stay-at-home mom, you know, with the tiny Persian mother-in-law, you know, flipping the bill, allegedly, for everything. And she got to be with her kids. And then now she's been on the show for like seven years. And, I mean, it is a big difference to adjust to. I don't want to take any of that away because it, would be like if tomorrow I woke up and I was five, ten, blonde, I would lean into it. My only thing is as a mom, and by the way, just so everybody knows, I was so cognizant of never talking

about my body, of turning over, you know, I'm old, we had magazines, People magazine when there'd be something about weight loss or celebrity, and my child still developed it. But I just think that children, especially this kid, is watching everything his parents do. And it's on TV. And it's on And so how are you going to promote eating when mom goes and gets a bowl of chicken? Yeah. Yeah. We got serious there. I like that for us.

Let's talk about Tom Sandoval. Okay. Well, first we've got to say Summer House is official Amanda and Wes are not coming back. There was a photo that she posted that the internet is wondering if she's pregnant. I have seen the photo. She's kind of looking out. she's wearing this dress, which by the way is a brand that Tom Sandival's girlfriend was a model for. It's kind of like a long, like green, kind of pretty, like whatever dress, that you'd like casual but cute.

And she's looking out and from the side, it looks like if you told me she had the beginnings of a bump, it looked a little bit like that. But it also could be just the angle in the dress. So I know that I might not leave my house if she's pregnant for so many reasons. because the world is already a dangerous place. But if West Nile virus got Mandy pregnant and they're not even a relationship, and Heather... No, they are still a relationship, aren't they?

As of a few weeks ago, the rumors were he cheated on her in all of this, during all this. But wasn't this photo taken... Yes, it was this weekend. At his family's farm. And that's always the downfall of West's conquest is he takes them back to the farm

and he dumps them. Oh. But I will say that she has a... figure. A big, great body. It does look like maybe, but I think it could just be the wind blowing. Well, it's what I have said, which people would get mad at. I said the only thing that can save their reality TV careers is if she gets pregnant. You'd watch that. No, I just think that's what would, that's what would forgive people. That could get them back in the fold of the friend group. Okay. Right now, the show is filming without them because Sierra probably wasn't going to film with them.

but it doesn't mean that she's still on the city. So it doesn't mean that when the city starts filming again in the fall and she's six months pregnant, that that wouldn't be fucking juicy. And then he comes on. And if either together or not, Lindsay will forgive her and be a friend to her because she's pregnant.

I'm telling you people, that will be the only, I've been saying it, that would be the only way to make people like her again is if she was to have a child. And that, and even if she doesn't stay with him, then she'll, then she can join the group of hating him, which a lot of women love when you hate your ex. So it's why they call you Professor McDonald.

I mean, you really are a doctor of reality TV. I will agree in the cities her only chance if she's knocked up. She's not coming back to Summer House. I would watch the show of her pregnant and West doing a podcast with his, you know, soccer friend. What does she play basketball? The girl, the blonde cutie. Yeah, that's not going to pay for the diapers. Yeah.

And I guess a bigger question that's been haunting me is they were nominated for an Emmy Summer House. Do West T.D. and Amanda Patuclia go to the Emmy ceremony, Heather. Do they show up on that red carpet? Ooh, that's a good one. Right. Well, why the fuck not? It's your last shebang. Yeah.

They're invited? I would. Yeah? You know, Sierra's going to look gorgeous. Gorgeous. Speaking of which, how do we feel? Taylor, Frankie Paul, had a big weekend with the baby daddy of Ever, who's two. First, it was that they had an immediate, like, Zoom mediation.

which we all get to see. Yeah. This is what I don't get, okay? Because I don't know if it's because the state they're in or what the hell. But normally custody battles involving children are private. But we not when it comes to Little Ever. The world now knows that Little Ever 2 was on an e-bike with his dad with a helmet in which the dumb attorney of Dakota tries to say, well, he has a helmet. the older male judge was like, no, no.

This kid isn't 12, he's two. This should never be allowed. Done, never going to happen again. Okay, fine. Then, meanwhile, his roommate crew, some weirdo who also hates women, he then somehow releases this video that Dakota took of Taylor, who they're in a heated argument. She's frustrated. It appears that she's confused why he's.

filming her. She's, you know, and he's like, look, look how she's clutching her fist. She wants to hit him, but she won't. Whatever their situation is, why does the roommate release this? It's weird. The roommate's ex-girlfriend comes out, says what a fucking nightmare he is and was, and why they're just these men just obsessed or jealous or whatever with her and the other women that are making so much money on TV and social media. And then she defends herself and says, this is her job, this is her livelihood. She's not going to go to nursing school and be a nurse for 12 hours a day. This is it, so I get it. And all these awful things are already being said about me. You already have seen the video of me throwing the chair. So now I need to do whatever I can to offend myself.

The other cast members of the show are not filming with her. So she's like pissed about that. But then they said, no, she is going to film. Where are we in all this secret lives of Mormon wives? So on the ground sources tell me that she is filming with them. There was a big change and an attitude from the rest of Mom Talk when Taylor Frankie Paul changed her Instagram bio to founder, President God of. She is. Of Mom Talk.

She is. And they are filming two things. They're doing this new Orange County Mom Talk, but they're also doing secret lives. And so the rest of them, it's crazy what's going. They're filming these TikToks of, we are surviving because the big thing is, well, mom talk survive. She then goes back of them, but I'm thriving and puts little captions of brands that have reached out to her opportunities like dancing with the stars and can you write a book. Now, one of them was kind of dated, but they're going back. What do you mean kind of dated?

Like I'm like, well, that one was 2024. One of the brands? What was it? Yeah, it might have been dancing with the stuff. Like one of those. So I'm like, do a better job of editing. Yeah. But so they're going back at each other. They are, they did film together.

They are filming together. But the drama off and on is heated. Why this creepy roommate is doing this? I really, I can't get my head around at 15 minutes of fame. I don't know. It's just very disturbing. And I'm like, you know, here's the thing. we're going to see more of play-by-play divorces and child custody battles with millennial 30-year-old moms that have put everything on these trad wives that have been married since 19 who they're going to end up half of them are going to get divorced and 80% of them are going to share every nanny cam video every time they got in a fight and we are going to have not we we we don't have to but if you're following this person you're

and they're going to make you aware of it because they're going to say, well, I need to tell you why I'm no longer with the cute husband. And the cute husband's going to say, I need to tell you why she turned into a thirst bucket and we got divorced. And the kids that we already exploited

for views and likes and everything else are going to be exploited again because now we're going to know that what we saw for the last five years wasn't real. Wow. You know, it would be so tempting if you and a million times God forbid Pete separate divorce and he starts saying something about you. And you had some footage. It would be hard. No, I don't blame them. Like, I don't blame them. But it's awful. But I mean, my kids are grown too. So like that. Yeah. But I wouldn't want to do that. I know. Some things can remain private. You know, not everything has to be out there. But when you've been living your life online, since you were 15.

It's all you know. You're 30. It's all you know, which is why they can find these younger moms to go do reality TV and why they say, why don't they find anyone more interesting for real housewives that are rich and 45?

Because the rich 45-year-old woman has been living a rich private 45-year-old life. She has not put every single thing on social media for the last 10 years and can't wait to become famous. So you either have to stick with the oldies or start a whole new thing with young thirst buckets. So these young girls grew up on social media.

And I don't think it's a big deal for them to be on TV. And they just see it as like, oh, even though you're not paying me that much, it's just a way for me to get bigger deals. And I'm doing it to expand me, which is the brand of selling diaper rash because I have a two-year-old. It's a big price to pay.

And with that in mind, this past week, and Taylor Frankie posted a video of a seemingly stalking black car driving up and down her street, parking in front. She caught it on her closed caption TV. She hired security, but it's a big price to pay. Again, she's a mother. So it doesn't really lean into the best parenting, but to your point, it's all they've known. I mean, someone would say, all she talks about is how she has mental health issues and stuff. So did Amanda. So then they said, well, Amanda's, you're not coming back on the show on Summer House. And then her mental health thing is You know, yeah, she's got mental health issues too.

So I don't know. Amanda's boring. But right. Well, here's the thing. You know, it's, it doesn't, it's not the production team's job to say yes or no, whatever. You know, she, it's, she's, yes, she's through the bar stool. And if it hit the kid or not, she isn't doing time for child abuse. she's not. So it's like

if they're gonna, if, if Shannon Bador who drove into someone's curb and got a with Archie in the car, with Archie in the car rest of peace and also did what she had to do to clear her name

legally, but you know, probably won't drink as much on camera and hasn't but isn't denouncing alcohol either. You know, they kept her. So it's like, I don't, know. I mean, what it is. It's just an interesting thing. Oh, Melania shared some nasty text messages

with her sister after her assault arrest. So it turns out Melania was fighting with the sister, Adriana, right? Or was it Adriana who, or Gabrielle, I can't remember which one, but she was throwing candles or something at her. One of the girls called the police. She was arrested. And then just this past weekend, Melania was sharing the text exchanges between them on her Snapchat. And I'm like, now,

I think, again, what's a girl to do when your mother is Teresa and your whole life you've been on TV since you were two? You go up for emancipation. I mean, but I'm just saying, I think that they,

she's choosing to share all this for the same reasons. It's the only thing she knows. And maybe it will help give them a sister spinoff or something. If they hate each other and fight enough, then that might get them another show. There's not a family I like less on reality TV

than the Judici Judici-Ji-Ises. And I don't root for them. There, I said it. I never liked Teresa. I think she's a liar. I think she's mean. And so I've heard that when this incident happened in May, It was Louis,

Louie and Theresa, fighting about money that they owe, and it's a staggering number. And then the kid got involved and was very violent and drunk, did attack someone. The police show up, and they all decide,

we don't want to press charges. But ever since O.J. Simpson allegedly killed his ex-wife when the police show up, if I say to them, no, no, I'm fine. I don't want Heather arrested, but I have a gash on my face. They automatically take the person. Right. So I heard that happen and there is a closed document with initials of who that victim was that will be released soon.

All to say that they're trashy people, period. We don't know what the legal thing is. No. Allegedly. but there you go. Ugh, with that. Okay. This was interesting.

I meant to say this on Christian Grace, No, who has the podcast with Vicky, said that they used his voice from the show, from his podcast. They used a soundbite from his podcast on the premiere episode of Real House of O.C. Except they changed his voice and also didn't say the name of the podcast

or give him credit. And I would like to know what was the why. Yeah. Because I've had them use my voice for things and they've reached out and said, do you mind if we use your voice for this? And I'd go, okay, and I sign whatever. But they made it sound, he is a gay man,

and it sounded like a black woman. What? If you were to cast a black woman, it sounded like a black woman. What? And so I just kind of was like, I don't know if it's because of the talk of shame and all that stuff that you're trying to not parlay, podcasting into it. But right off the bat, they all have a podcast.

They all talk about each other on their own shows, on each other's shows. So that is going to be part of the storylines, and you can't deny it. But maybe there's something in that they don't really want to give any one particular podcast that cover this stuff any light. I don't know. But I thought that was weird. That's so weird. pointed it out. It's so weird.

And really annoying. Because you work really hard talking about these shows forever. And it's kind of a, yeah, it's a huge ego boost to be featured on the actual show. Of course. So like, why, you know, if you could have another voice if they did that, what voice would you want? Oh, to change my voice? Yeah. Like I would want an English one. I would just want a straight man because they seem to be always getting the jobs.

Done. Well, I just thoroughly have enjoyed talking to you about every. I don't know if there's anything we forgot to talk about. But you have a great podcast. Thank you, Heather. I was a guest on your show. And tell everybody where they can find it, what days it drops, all of it. Well, I got great advice from Heather's beautiful, smart, intelligent, handsome son who said,

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