Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Vanderpump Premiere, Hollywood Hookers and Emmys with Guy Branum

Episode Date: January 18, 2024

Comedian and writer Guy Branum is back to discuss my win on Name That Tune! Vanderpump Rules premiered. Should Ariana be upset with Lala for reaching out to Raquel? Is hosting a TV awards show the hardest gig in town or did Anthony Anderson just kill it? We also learned so much as kids watching sad sitcoms from the 1970s. Who has a worse mom Monica from RHSLC or Blac Chyna? Are we convinced yet that Kyle and Morgan are a real couple or not? So many questions, so many juicy answers enjoy!  Go to https://MintMobile.com/JUICYSCOOP, to get this new customer offer and your new 3-month unlimited wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month. Give your hair a glow-up with OUAI. Go to https://TheOuai.com and use promo code JUICY for 15% off any product. Go to https://www.PeacockTV.com/the-traitors to watch Traitors Season 2, out now, only on Peacock! New episodes drop every Thursday at 9pm EST. Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Woo, woo, hand up McDonald's. Juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. I have returned favorite. A former office husband of mine, a tall bald headed delight, Guy Brannum. Heather, I'm so excited to see the cute lunch sticker that you have on your laptop, because, I mean, truly,

it is a concept that I will always, the concept of a half bottle of white wine being consumed with salads is something... It's everything. Yes. It's just everything. It means so much to me and something that I... is part of your distinctly Southern California wisdom.

Thank you. I really appreciate that. I really miss having cute lunches with you, but we're going to enjoy. People can eat their cute lunch while they listen to us talking because there's so much juicy scoop to talk about. You came in because you obviously heard about my triumphant return to television which happened last night. Yes.

How you were on the mattoon? How was that happened last night. Yes, how you were on the In-Matoon, how was that? I won. Oh, really? I won $33,000 for Hill Sides, which is a charity that I was introduced to by Dr. Drew. And it's been about around for 100 years. And basically, it does a lot, but the thing that stands out to me is kids that were never adopted out

of foster care that are young adults. Well, they'll help them get housing services, career, help, school. That's so awesome. Yeah, so really important. For so many people who don't have the support that luckyer people do, being able to have people there, especially who will give you mental health care,

and be there for you, either figuring out who you are, it's so important. I very briefly thought it was Hillsong that you were playing for and I was like, oh no, it's Heather back on her bullshit. And then I was like, no, this is okay. I should have known that her Heather is a Catholic, her Christianity is of a distinctly Catholic flavor.

But this is a non-enominational, nice thing. Yeah. In choosing your charities as a celebrity, you kind of have to pretty careful about it and make sure. My favorite. My favorite was when Ariana Huffington did celebrity job, she played for her own, for like the Ariana Huffington Foundation.

And I was like, you would have fall. You get that coin, area. Hillary Clinton, it's a Clinton foundation. Yeah, that would be a little suspect. But no, anyway, it's a second time I was able to have that is ignoring that is ignoring what I asked you years ago. If you were going to start a charity, if you're owned, what would your charity do? And I told you, Heather's for Heather's helping Heather's stay hot for generations to come, where we encourage young pregnant mothers who are attractive to name their daughters Heather. And then the money that we raise, we give them, you know, baby stuff, strollers, little outfits so that it's not a name that is lost. So it does. You know, really in a serious, it's like an end.

It's done call the way of Lindop. It's an endangered, it's an endangered species right now. It's not happening. Yes. And, you know, I get a lot of juicy scupers that come up to me and they, they're like, I'm sorry, but I'm not naming her Heather. I'm naming her Lilly or something and I'm like, it's okay, you can still be a juicy scupor.

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Visit our website for more information. Based on three and a half year study of actively engaged NUME users with a minimum starting BMI of 25. results may vary visit our website for more information all health care services provided by independent clinicians. Were you excited to be not taking off by the way the charity is not? Were you excited to be on a classic like 1970 style game show? Did you feel like at one with all of the people who were on the pyramid back when you were watching in grade school? Like, and what songs did you have? I didn't watch them. Okay, honestly, I was really bad at it. But Kevin Neal and was worse. But you

also, I was going up against Kevin Neal and but I was deep pop culture sense, but you also sometimes have trouble remembering the name of things. Right. So like I would go, oh my god, I know this is the singer or I know this is the the next line in the song because they just play like a little but I wouldn't know the title. And so honestly, I was pretty bad, but the one that I did that I then God came down and blessed me. And the question was, you know, you got to go to your challenger who's Kevin and and the song came up and they're like how many notes do you think that you can Get it in and then he might say oh, I could do it last or call your bluff And then he has a chance to win it and say oh now I want ten notes instead of five and The question had to do with Annie

Annie was in the title, but I can't remember what the question was but I knew right away I'm like I know it's the Sun will come out tomorrow. I know it. So I said, I can do it in one note. Everyone's like, oh, that's awesome. And then they did it. And then I knew it. I heard what a beautiful big dick move to get to pull it in a classic for. And I got to sing.

Yeah. And then they go, let's see. They go, what's the answer? And I go, tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you. Tomorrow. And I was like, oh, my God, I love ya. Tomorrow. And I was like, oh my god, I was so excited for my sister, Shannon to see it because we were both

Annie in like local plays. Yes. And whatever my parents would have, like some real estate clients come over, they like pimped us out and we'd have to sing tomorrow. We forget what a cultural phenomenon Annie was. Like I remember it came out when I was in like kindergarten or something and there were so many girls

in like second and third grade who were like, this is my personality now. Like this is who I am as a person who really likes Annie. Yes. So I was Annie numerous times in summer plays where they do the best of Broadway. And then everyone could at least have a part, you just do a couple, which is,

by the way kids and people running theater departments in high schools do best of Broadway. Uh-huh. We do not need to see the entire boring thing. Just do the best of Broadway and then that way so many more kids have a solo. It's so much more entertaining for the parents. It's all all hits. Well, you know that like, we're having like a cultural moment,

like, do you know what the Jimmy Awards are? No, what is that? It's awards for high school drama. And the presentations are always like ridiculous, but like a Renee Rapp who is in Mean Girls and Sex Lives of College Girls and is a pop star and everything like that. And then the kid who is in the Jennifer Lawrence romcom, both one Jimmy is the same year.

And so people are like saying like, hey, look, 10 years ago they won this high school award. And now they both have careers that are exploding. And so I love that. That's a good, like, you know, I really, you know, came up from my bootstraps kind of a thing. I saw, I thought this was kind of funny. You know how the new flex is that I came from nothing

and I was poor, I had no connections, whatever. And that's why when I win my speech, I'm gonna be like, and to my grandmother, Kitty Morrison, who came over here on a boat in 1915, to think that I could be here a little over a hundred years later is amazing. But I was watching Paul Giamatti, who won for his role, which I want to see. But I saw him win for the Golden Globe as well. And he was like, this is a really important thing for me.

I came from a family of teachers. And I'm like, oh, that's pretty humble. And I'm imagining like these two people coming home and one is teaching third grade math and the other one is doing the science. And they just live in a middle class home. And so anyway, what do you won the last time? Whatever the critics choice or something, the reporters like.

And he goes, yes, you know know because I came from a family of teachers And he's like yes your dad was the president of Yale That's hilarious But there were other teachers and he had to be a teacher to get to that place and I'm like He you're still a great actor. Yeah, don't, like, don't try to, like, we got it. You probably got into Yale. I'm sure you did Yale drama school and I'm sure you were super talented and really, really good,

but like, let's not, sugarcoat with this is. Access to, I came from nothing. You know, yeah, no. Yeah, don't try to jump on someone's thing. Okay, we're gonna get into the Emmys and stuff, but I did watch Better Pump Rules, the premiere after the whole scandal. It's back. Yes. So it's out. People are going to watch it. And I want to say it's really, it is really good. They're finally not acting like anyone really works at the restaurant anymore, which I like.

Yes, because I mean, Lisa is just reducing her presence in the greater Beverly Hills, West Hollywood area. You know, Tom Tom is still thriving, but like Lisa's shifting the business model and we respect that. To a state where there's less taxes, thank you Nevada, and a better model for sure. But what's, what now we know about the scandal. You know that Tom SantaVal cheated with Rachel Raquel. And so we see Ariana and they're living in the house together, but they make it very clear.

Tom is doing that Navy SEAL show. I like that they didn't act like he was out, you know, polishing glasses. That we said it, it's what's happening. Thank God. We understand how the reality world works. This is just what these people do. Right, they share their lives on TV now. It's they started out as waiters.

It's really not that. So that was good. And we just are starting to see them like, are they going to be able to go out? Are they going to hang out with each other? And then, but then Lala starts to feel bad about Rukkel. And she meets with Lisa Vanderpump and she goes, you know, I was with this guy who I thought was gonna be the love of my life.

Everyone told me I was the other woman, but I didn't really see it that way because he kept telling me what our life would be like together. And then in the end, her guy Randall cheated on her too, and now they're going through a custody battle. So she reaches out to call Raquel. And then she has to tell Ariana, I left her an audio voice message. And I just kind of thought that's interesting for them

because it's like, Ariana aunt is like, okay, but she was really nice about it, but again, it's like, well, we all said how much we hated this girl. She like destroyed our lives and stuff, and now you're reaching out. But then also, it's a TV show. Yes. And so I think they're sort of giving her a little slack

even though I'm like, okay, we get it, Lala. Like, you don't necessarily really want to reconnect with this person, but it would be good because they wanted to come back on the show. This thing is, is once somebody has been sort of like the arch villain of a season, they either have to be brought back into the fold or leave the show.

You can't have somebody. We all got very tired of everyone yelling at Erica Jane for three seasons. And it's like, now she's back the heart of like the bosom of the Abraham and things are fine and other people can have fights. And I think it just is necessary. And I also think like also it's Vanderpump rules. It is like sexy people who do bad things.

Like sexy people are going to do bad things. Yes. So the sandwich shots they talk about the sandwich shop. Are you familiar with the struggles of the sandwich shop? I'm not. Well, Ariana and Katie had always wanted a sandwich shop when they were both married or with their toms. So when the toms were putting together they're shorts and sandies.

Yeah. They were like, we should have a sandwich shop. Yes. Well, then the scandal broke and they're like, we're moving on with the sandwich shop. And they get this adorable little place. I think it's on Robertson. And they get the set designer for Nancy Myers

or her decorator to do it. And it's super cute. And they find all these yummy sandwiches. And I'm like, you should do a sandwich called the Better Half, which is just a half a sandwich. Because everyone wants a half a sandwich. And they're getting cute teacups and everything. But then they had all this trouble with the city where they now had to scrape their patio. And

then they didn't have permits for this. And for that, meanwhile, Ariana in real life came in like second with dancing with the stars. And it's now Roxy Hard on Broadway and she has a boyfriend in New York. And, and I'm, what we're watching this peer to our watching this. And he goes, what we're watching this, Peter are watching this and he goes, wait, they're gonna be making sandwiches. I'm like, or they can make $30,000 on a post. I mean, I just, I think it's like, well, do you think anytime someone on a reality show

starts a new business, they are just thinking, this could be my spin-off? Yes and no, I think that they were like, this could be something that, yeah, it's been off with cameras, but without too. Like this could be something that, yeah, I spent off with cameras, but without too. Like, this could be something that could be really good, and we could have several of them. I mean, the thing is, is like, the passive income of business,

I do think you have to take care of the business a little bit. You know, you have to be somebody who has a mind for that. And I think that if you are, if you're doing it with cameras, it makes sense. If you're doing it without cameras, you really need to be one of those people who's like, because like overhead on Robertson is gonna be hot. That's what I'm saying, it's gonna be so hard.

It's sandwiches, so it's not like you're making that easy money off the booze. I mean, maybe they have a wine and beer, I don't know. But then people are like, you know, is this was this truth? Yes, I talked to them, I know that this was a real intention, but that's why it's also hard when people have a partner in anything,

whether it's a podcast or a real estate, whatever, because one person might get another opportunity like starring as Roxy Hart, and then you're like, do I, what do I do with this sandwich shop? Here's the thing though, one important factor in all of this is the idea of Los Angeles character breakfasts.

Like when people from the Midwest con having a location where you can go and the likelihood of you saying one of the sexy people you love from television is high. That's a really like that's something to bring you in. But if people are going to be consistently like starring as Roxy Heart on Broadway or spending so much time doing their like

yoga wellness hosts posts and integrated content that they only show up for 15 minutes. It's a hard thing. Yeah. It's a hard thing, but we'll see. I still would love it to open, but if it doesn't, I think we understand why and I don't think people should be mad at them for it.

Like, it's a frickin' pain in the ass. It's hard. I would like to premise this question by saying, I have started the long drive through Atlanta, and- Real housewives of Atlanta. Yes, okay. And in learning, as I go through and sort of like learn

about the history of these characters, I realize just how many characters have had spin-off shows, and you know, like, that there was party for the party that there is Mary to medicine. Oh, sorry for the part. Well, you know what's happening then. But, yes, but my question is essentially, do you use Vanderpump rules?

The version of that housewife spin-off show that was most successful. And do you think it is because Lisa was smart enough to center people other than herself? 100% she was so smart. And Brandy Glanvell will say the whole reason it's success success is because of me. Oh really? Because it was because she had the thing with Shayna right?

Because Shayna, Shayna, sorry Shayna. Shayna, Shayna, Shayna, um, according to her unmanence to her, had a thing with Eddie Sibreon. She did not know about Brandy Glanville or if she knew who he was married, he was telling her who's getting divorced, whatever the classic. And, but then he, then later on, she did with Leigh Ann Rhymes. She now, he's been with for like 12 years or something.

But at the time, even though he was with Leigh Ann Rhymes, Brandy didn't love Sheena. And then Sheena worked at the restaurant. So they filmed this, they knew about this. Then they filmed this, they knew about this, then they filmed this thing, and then the way it was, it was the most genius thing. So real house, we have Beverly Hills,

and they're at a restaurant, and then they literally like go through a kitchen door, and like end up at the restaurant, and then you meet all the people. The bad door pilot of Vanderpump rules is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. Yeah. Like, I really was just sort of like, I haven't watched the show still, but like, I watched

the backdoor pilot and I was just like, I want to watch the show. Like, here's the thing, it's like Brandy could say it's because of me, but it's really because of Sheena. Sheena was shared the honesty about it, has stuck with it. She's got married, she's got divorced, she's got married again, she has a baby, I mean she's been on this for the whole time doing stuff. Follow up question. Yes.

Just like as a gay man, I have a different relationship to sort of like sense of ownership over someone you're in a relationship with. And I just wonder, like, do you think that somebody like Brandy ends up like super blaming Shina because Eddie's the father of my children and there's a way that I can never stop. Like, why is it so easy to blame this person who's a stranger to you instead of the person who stood in front of a crowd and said, I will love you forever?

Like, do you? That is such a good point. Like, because women are awful sometimes, we're kind of, of we're harder on each other, we're awful. I mean, why is it that, you know, in cases, women will side with a guy and even in a fight or whatever, they always side with the guy. They just, I don't know.

I think when you have children, I imagine that when you have children, there's a way that like, this person will always be part of your life. Right. So you feel, so in many cases, people feel invested in just like keeping hold of something, you know? Yeah.

And I just think with the whole thing, why this scandal was so interesting is because Ruck Kale and Ariana were friends. Yeah. They were really close. The deception goes so much deeper than she knew meaning some hot actor and him being like, yeah, my wife and I live separate lives or whatever he said. And he was just cute and it was just fun and she was just

an aspiring actress. That's like a totally different situation than no, like then going after your best friends dude, you know, it's just completely different. Well, like actors who have to play people in a couple so frequently end up cheating with each other right do you think there is the same kind of like heightened erotic state for people on reality shows do you think no i think from what i've heard from rock all is now speaking her truth uh it it was like they got together they bitched about

filming when they weren't together just like any other co-workers, and then they were just attracted and they both felt it and they went for it and nobody stopped. Thomas super hot. And it went on for seven months. And then she was believing what he was saying and what she believed their life could be once he officially broke up with her. And then the reason I'm not doing it right now is because we are on a show. And we got to wait for the show to end

and then there can be a little break and then we can act like we bumped into each other. I don't know what their plan was. Eventually we might know more. Everyone's given their side of the story. But what's kind of funny about watching it now is this still was done a long time ago. But they are like a little bit able to like make fun of it,

a little bit just right now. Like it's like time does heal all wounds. Yes. And so I think that's kind of fun to watch because they are all like very funny and entertaining. Somebody who is not watching the show, is there anyone who is desperately fighting for air? It just feels like Skandival has like so occupied the space.

Are there any? No, okay, because what's interesting is for a few years, they tried to get like different bus boys and they cast people and they push these other people on us, thinking like we need another, we need a 2.0 cast because these people are getting older and they may leave. Yes. Now, as you can see in this photo, it's only the main players. It's DJ James, Sheena, Tom Sandevol, Tom Schwartz, Ariana Lala, Katie and Lisa. That's it. I mean, we're going to see a couple other people, but all the other people that were like,

you know, on the third shift on a Monday, they're not coming. Those waitresses are not part of this anymore. How do you feel about the place of combining whites and neutrals amongst our young sex people? Other photo? I think this looks good. I mean, it, like, I'm glad they didn't do the purple.

Like purple is the background, cream is the middle. I think this is good. And then that, and then that Lisa were solid white pants. No, I think they all look great. I'm a little annoyed with everyone wearing cream at all times. These days it was like, you know what I think it is that no one ever thinks about? What? It is a real flex to say, I'm going to wear a white pants suit with a cream trench. Yes. And I'm going to go out and eat. And I'm such a classy bitch.

Who is that person? I'm not going to spill coffee. Yes, who is that person? I'm not going to sit on a dirty bench. Who is that person? I'm not gonna spill coffee. Yes, who is that person? I'm not gonna sit on a dirty bench. Yeah, it's iconic. And it's like a rich thing too, because I never think of going all white or wearing all white, but now I'm starting to think about it. Well, also, gay guys started wearing cream or tan speedos

like five years ago. Wow. But it was kind of like, what is he naked? And you know. Oh, okay. Well, we always copy the gaze. They always started. So I thought it, I thought I was a reach lady in New York.

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That's theway.com THEOUAI.com promo code juicy. So let's talk a little bit. There were several shows in, you know, in last two weeks. There was the Globes with Jokoy. There was critics choice with our girl Chelsea. And then Anthony Anderson did the Emmys. So I will just say I thought he did great. Yes.

I thought it was whoever thought of let's do old sitcom songs and celebrate that versus like hard jokes of pointing at people in the audience was frickin' brilliant. Well, and also having so many casts from long running shows that never won in Emmy. I thought was like a beautiful thing to say. It's always funny and it's always funny in Philadelphia.

Good for you, you get to be here. Remember how great you are. Right. I thought it was really nice and it played to a skills because he's not Anthony interested as an a standup, is he? No, I don't think he's ever a standup. It's just always a comedic actor Yeah, and so like he was able to pull it off. I did think like when they brought in Natasha Leon and Tracy Ellis Ross to do the thing from I love Lucy. It was the hardest because it's like it's an iconic comedy moment. You're just never gonna be funnier than Lucille Ball and what's her name?

Vivian Vance. Yeah, I thought like the thing is is like Tracy Ellis Ross has those multi-cam skills, those sketch comedy skills of being able to like throw herself at it And I thought it was really fun. I also really liked that at the Critics Choice Awards, I like jokes. I like jokes, and, you know, Jokoi was in the hardest possible situation at the Golden Globes. It's a live show in front of like very famous people who are even just a stand-ups. We understand that like sitting at tables and having like food and drinks in front of very famous people who are even just a stand-ups, we understand that sitting at tables

and having food and drinks in front of you, it's not ideal. It's the worst, it's the worst possible situation, and yet very little time to put it all together, and it was rough to watch. But I just love that Chelsea didn't artfully, because I want to see it done well. Well, this is what I think that

it's between Joe Koy and Chelsea is. Yes. Chelsea has had experience of doing being with celebrities for many, many, many years. Joe Koy is really a one man band and his success is him going out and doing this enormous arenas for people. And they're building that community. Yeah, that people just absolutely adore him. So collaboratively, he

certainly doesn't have the experience, but he doesn't also have the experience of being in the A-list celebrity world. And she already did it the year before. And also she just was more comfortable up there or trying to buy those people. So once you're comfortable, the audience was more comfortable. And the audience wasn't very comfortable with him because he wasn't comfortable. And also the idea of collaboratively, it was a situation where according to him, like they'd offered it to several people and he only got the job 10 days beforehand. Right. And like Chelsea is used to having writers. For decades, she has had writers and, you know, knows how to manage them.

Hopefully better now than 10 years ago. And clearly she does, clearly she does. But like that there is that thing of like if the call came for a big opportunity 10 days from now, you have worked as a writer. You would know exactly who, like, you would call me an Allison Fouse, and you know, you would know who to go to as your people, and I think this is like what Joe Koi does is solo work, and I think he just didn't immediately have like, these are the people who are gonna write me killer jokes.

If and when I get the call, I will be calling you, but I also will have the attitude of like If I bomb This is still gonna be the biggest moment in my career for me. Yeah, you know, so like that's what you say yes Though 10 people said no, but why someone at a different level will turn it down. Yeah, cuz they're like this could only hurt me Like it's not like first I thought is this hurting j Jocque and then I'm like, absolutely not. Because his audience, his audience is so fricking loyal. They treat him like a brother.

And if they feel like their brother got a little beat up this week, they're gonna go in droves to see his live show. And then if he can be funny and humble, because he's not, he can be very self-deprecating in his comedy. So if he can bring this moment to the stage, it'll be fresh. It'll be a fresh Hollywood story, like a Catholic

griffin type of Hollywood story, that people love to hear. That's where I would go with it. I thought a better thing to do was to just not apologize and not say anything and kind of save it like Chris Rock did. But instead, he went and did an interview. I think it was with the LA Times and he kind of save it like Chris Rock did. But instead he went and did an interview. I think it was with the LA Times and he kind of was like defending his,

and I'm like, I would have said, don't just don't do anything. Let people forget about it, come out and be like, you guys, that was a fucking nightmare. Like, you know, whatever. And then have everyone just, you know, join in with you. It's so hard when the media's attention is on you. Like, you have had those moments when there was like something going down and like, the

media's attention is on you and there's such an inclination to respond and being able to be like self-possessed and just sort of say like, I'm going to control how I respond to this. It's really, really hard. It's much easier said than done. Yeah. And when you're living in it, and it's like, that's why you need just like a sober coach. You need like a social media.

You need literally someone that's gonna be like, I'm not letting you be alone with your phone. We're gonna go to Cabo. We're gonna do da da da da. You're gonna literally have blinders on. We are not gonna let, you know, anybody see any of this and think about what we're gonna do. But it's hard because I think you still have the yes man people that are kind of like,

oh no, it wasn't that bad. A lot of people look, I know there's some mean comments, but look at all the good ones and all of that. He'll, like I said, he'll be more than fine, but he was never gonna be in the Hollywood, in the acting world really, ever again. But he'll always do well as his huge massive standup in my opinion. So this is only gonna help his like world domination

at the arenas. But I thought it was so great that Anthony Anderson was just like, I'm going to do something else. Yeah, I love it. Going to approach it in that way. And to the being of- And he got to sing also something I'd like to do. Wait, what's it he's saying?

He got to sing a lot of the- Oh, the theme songs, yes. Yeah, and he wasn't even trying to be good, but he could still kind of carry a tune. Remembering how good the Jefferson's theme song is, it's just, I mean, it's- Well, also I just thought it, I love that because he was like saying,

oh, I had a crush on 2D, or what, I'm talking about it. And I always remember when I was writing with the Williams brothers and I was like, oh, I loved good times. And they're all looking at me. Oh, it was a good time, team sucks, I'm sorry. Yeah, they're all looking at me like you did. Yeah.

And I remember Keeta was like, I wanna know, like growing up and watching it, like what did you think? And I was like 27 and I just said, I remember thinking I'm so jealous how close their friends live to them. That they're next door. To me, I never, I didn't think of it as like, oh, this is what it's like if you don't

have a lot of money you live in the projects. I was like, oh, this is a different kind of family. And I think that's what was so good about those shows is that it exposed the world, but in a positive way. Well, also, those network shows, you just back in the 70s and 80s, we just watched television and were like, if this is on, it's relevant to us. Yeah.

And like, there were black shows that, like, as a white person, you were just like, well, this must be relevant to me. It's on television. I have to tell you. Yes. There is a, like, fifth season episode of Good Times, where she goes to the doctor,

and there is a light skinned black doctor who is very condescending to them because of their social status and she refers to them as you people and there's a moment where the mom says, and who do you think you are? Debebon. And I always remember that joke. And the thing is, as a fat person, when you go to the doctor, doctors are so frequently really condescending to you and don't listen to you. And the number of times that I've gone back

and watched that episode of Good Times, just to sort of like think about and realize that it was modeled for me that there were, are people who will be, there were, are medical service providers who will be condescending to you and not take you seriously and you have to advocate for yourself, you wouldn't think naturally or normally that this show for black people about, like, issues that were relevant to African Americans in the 70s,

in the projects would, like, be something that was like a useful tool that I carry around in my life, but it is a useful tool that I carry around in my life. Okay, well, this is my good time, too good time moments. Okay. There were a few, but one was when she's like, fighting with her husband about something, Florence, what's her name? Yes. And she goes, a woman, a woman, she goes,

don't say it, don't say it. And he goes, is only meant to be in the kitchen or the bedroom. And I were watching that and seeing her get angry and being like, oh my God, you know, that people would think that and like, I don't like, you know, I also thought it was interesting that the only, that the girl had her own bedroom. Yes. But the boys had to share the couch because the girl had to have her own bedroom, which is also like a thing culturally that is sort of interesting.

Like, you know, to protect her and that nobody's getting at her. Yes. And the darks are side of that. Yes. And then the other one, of course, was Janet Jackson playing Penny, who had an abusive mother. And I was like, oh my God, and seeing like the iron mark on her back. Yeah, I remember that episode.

So, it was like, I mean, I just. Yeah, I remember that episode. So it was- Yeah, and it's just like, I mean, I just don't know that there's kids today that watch something as a child and will remember it the way we're talking about a show right now. Because I think that they are, there is such effort made to insulate them from darker things because parents don't want to have to have these conversations.

Yeah. And like when you think about the way that like primetime network television was saying like, well now you have to have a talk to your kids about molestation because like Arnold went to the bike shop and yeah, like you, you know, we all remember what's your name on, on Punky Brewster getting locked in the refrigerator.

Like you understand you don't play her refrigerator. Yeah. Well, I remember I wrote a paper at SC about how how depressing how many depressing storylines were in 70s sitcoms versus that there were like none in the 80s. All the 80s like the the 80 ones they did not have these depressing real moments, these like, you know, one day at a time where she's crying, and she's like, all these moments of Bonnie Frank, like being a single mom, and we saw that in the seventies,

and then the eighties, it was more of the positive happy, which was what was being fed to us. Eighties interesting, because I have gone back in the recent past and watched a bunch of the Norman Lear sitcoms from the 70s And they are so good. It's like watching a good play like they're they're so smart and so funny at the same time And then I've gone back and watched a couple of 1980s sitcoms and they are just like like forgettable cotton candy. Yeah, I know Is Norman Lear still alive now? no? I think we just lost him.

OK. Well, let's talk about the important stuff. Fashion. Aubrey Plaza wore this. Did you see somebody who made it the post-it from Bethesda City? So she had a yellow dress on with this weird top of it yellow with a big needle through it.

And someone I think it's, I think it's for someone who runs a Sex and the City fashion account on Instagram. So apologize for not. But it said it was the breakup post it that Kerry got. They just wrote it on there. I mean, I as somebody who worked at Fashion Police, there is sort of like the trauma and joy of remembering.

I would have had to stay up all night long, writing 60 jokes just about that threat. Do you have some work to give us right now? No, I don't. I'm sorry. Oh, oh, oh. And then the pregnant girl, she said, uh, sookie water house.

Sorry, no, go back. I have a joke. Okay. Aubrey's post it. Her stylist, her stylist said, well, we have to figure out what you're going to wear in the Emmys. And Aubrey said, let's put a pin in that. Good.

Good. This girl is pregnant, Suki Waterhouse. And she wore a big red gown. But basically, she just had the top part be like a bib, like a big square bib. So we got a full back side tit. And then you got to see the stuff from the side. I will say Aubrey Plaza was taking a stab or a poke rather

at like real fashion and I respect it. Like it was big. This I think is dumb. This is just, I, listen, I do think there's something to be said when you just go look. I just want some press. I'm, yeah. I actually don't want to look good. I just want some press. I'm, yeah. I actually don't wanna look good.

I just want some press. No, there's this one singer songwriter, Bonnie, something or other. Bonnie McCray, is that her name? She always shows up to the Grammys wearing the most ridiculous outfit and on Fashion Police, we always covered her because she did that.

And she's like a very successful songwriter who has a solo career of her own that doesn't get enough attention. And she would just be like, I'm gonna show up wearing something batshit and you're gonna cover me. And I respect that. But this is of the school of I'm pregnant,

but I still have a hot body. And I think there are smarter ways of doing it than that. Well, as someone who was pregnant twice and wasn't famous at the time and never milked it, I wore maternity bathing suits. I didn't wear bikinis or my big stomach without. I didn't like walk around with this stomach out. And I am jealous.

And I do think I was ever to have the second company pregnant again, I would be milking out and walking around the earth like on the only person that's ever given birth. Which is what I like. Which is what I like. I love when somebody, I just like be a little bit cheekier about it, have a little bit more fun with it.

This is just kind of, it's not cute. It's not cute. It's not cute. I mean, the way that that skirt just goes enormous underneath. And like, I'm just imagining the gapping when you sit down.

Yes. This was Princess, she's a drag queen and she went as a green goblin with like extreme makeup. Like I think this is beautiful. Drag Race always. And Drag Race one. Drag Race so frequently wins for makeup. And I think like show up with your skills.

Like the wonderful thing about drag queens is that they can turn themselves into beautiful women. Yes. But also you can do anything with it. And like just having her in the background of shots as a goblin was thrilling to me. And I think the best thing about RuPaul's Drag Race and they just sent me this great package. So I got a cute sweatshirt. The judge, right? Oh, you were on such game. I got to be on the snatch tape. I got a sweatshirt.

I got a cute t-shirt. It's on MTV now. Ross Matthews is down producer. So he got an Emmy. They've won like 63 Emmys or binominatiously. I don't know so many wins. But I think the best thing that it's done is made this art form, this huge segment of entertainment. That these drag queens, and you can go to a drag show, you can go to a drag brunch, you can go on a drag cruise, you get like they were able, they are able to have full blown entertainment careers like standups do.

Yes. And they never were before. The trouble is is that we are running dry. Like our national supply, they do you have a bunch of, there's no up and comers you mean? I mean, now there are so many kids who like learn to do makeup on TikTok, but have never performed in real life who go on the show. They're like, there were these two absolutely beautiful boys who just, they were twins, sugar and spice,

and they can't even dance. Like, they are good at makeup and they are beautiful, but they can't dance. And I do think- I have a show for you. Yes. We bring back Corvall Havily Miller. Yes. We bring back horrible, heavily, heavily Miller. Yes.

But she's only helping drag moms. She's only helping drag moms and their kids who are at least like 15. Like they ought to be a little bit older so they know what they're doing but she's helping them get their dance on. One of the problems is, one of the problems is is that it used to be that these drag queens came

from horrible backgrounds where their parents rejected them and that rage turned into art. And now they all have moms who so for them. I mean, hate it. I think the answer is that we so it's become too supportive. Yes, parents are too supportive. Hence the art is not as good. So we need to start fracking our gay bars. Like we just, you know, when you get to the point when there's not enough oil left, so you have to pump water down in there, we just flood water into gay bars,

and then the good drag queens will come out. Did you see that Jalow showed up at the Abbey? Oh, no! Wonderful. She came with her, she was shoving her alcohol, Delano or whatever it's called. I don't even know what it is, like a sparkling thing, and she, you know, was singing, you know, I can't get enough? Have you seen the video for K whatever it's called. I don't even know what it is, like a sparkling thing. And she, you know, singing, you know, I can't get enough. Have you seen the video for Can't Get Enough?

No. It is really weird and kind of bad. Oh, I should watch it. And you know, I love Jaila's music and I love her look. But it's about, she's kind of mocked. The video is her having a bunch of weddings, but couple of dresses are weird. And then the dancing is weird.

The dancing is very weird on it. And so she goes to the Abbey, you know, on Emmy weekend, and she's, you know, filling drinks, of course, the comment was, I think at one point she took a glass and went into the ice. Okay, so that's a big no-no. To serve the drinks, the gaze would have drank ice in a hot second, but it came from Jailo, they don't care. But yeah, so I was hoping you'd be there that day.

I know you trolled the bar. Why do I go to the Abbey? If you never, you miss that day. The famous people always go to the Abbey, and I just want to say there's already a picture of Liz Taylor up at the Abbey, you're never going to win at the Abbey. So I want to see somebody go to high tops.

I want to see somebody, you know. Go to high tops, okay. Yes, or Rocco's with your beloved friend Lance. Like he owns Rockos. Okay, we'll do that. This was a fluorescent green, Jessica Chastain. It looks really good. I wore this color when I went on watch it happen's life. How did it go? Everyone said they loved it, but I have to say I regret it.

Yeah, I think neon is too trendy. It comes and it goes. And you know, I may never be back on that show. And I wish I would have gone with something just more classic. I mean, her with the red hair, I think it's bold. And also, I mean, looks good. You're Jessica Trastain. You get to go to movie things. You get to go. Show showing up to the Emmys, you can do your beside look, but I have to say it's a very difficult time for Jessica Chastain right now, okay? Because Greta Gerwig is our greatest Sacramento. Greta Gerwig has staked out her territory as our greatest Sacramento.

And Jessica Chastain repeated Academy Award nominee, Academy Award winner, Academy Award winner has to be our second greatest Sacramento and I think, you know, she like, she doesn't know how to get her way out of this. Like she's, you know, she stuck there in the number two spot. Yes. So I can't believe I have Tammy Fey wanted Oscar or whatever it was called.

Is that what she got up for? She wanted for the Tammy Fey movie, right? I loved that movie. Oh, I thought it was fine. Okay, all right. Here we are with Issa. Issa. Issa.

Issa Ray. And I love, she went with just a big, not showing off the body, but a big and she's a great body. Big feathery thing. And I think this is smart. You're going, she got invited to everything. For best dress was that orange, she had more like an orange, like crusted number two, I think this is smart. She got invited to everything. Her best dress was that orange,

we're like an orange, like crusted number two, I think. The Golden Globes. That was like one of the best dresses. She showed off the body there. So why not just be super chic. And also like that. And go for it. That little taste of I'm hosting a late 70s variety show.

Like there's something very magnificent and this is what like Barbara Streisand in her late 30s would have worn. This is what Marlowe's comments would have worn. I like I really love it and it's too much but also sensible. I like I yeah. First of all you know don't wear black. Okay and if you're going to a bunch of events, it is, I think it's good to get your brain going

and be like, okay, I'm gonna do three different, really different looks. Is smart. This was awful. I thought she was so cute. This is a little performance. Callista Flockhart, Ali McBeal. The performance is cute. I just think it was ugly.

And then you wanted this dress because you loved it. You were part of it. I didn't love it. I didn't love it. I'm so tired of Hannah lotting him, princessing. Okay, so the thing is, everybody's like, what am I gonna wear? And I feel like just size-wise,

just like capacity of the theater-wise, too many people are showing up to award shows saying, I'm the princess. Okay. And she has been princessing at the Emmy's so hard. She like stands up in standing revations, everyone who gets something. She like makes it about her a lot.

Do you think she's what the kids would call a pick me girl? Um, a little bit. I like, I think she's a theater girl. Like remember her acceptance speech from, it was the Emmys of the Globes a couple of. Remember her acceptance speech from, it was the Emmys of the Globes a couple of years ago where she was like, you know, more people should hire West End actors. And I think she is to her bone, a West End actor. More people should give girls from South the Boulevard Valley. Yes. Emmys. Because we

have it rough. Come on, I come from the south side of Intura. I like, I would love for her to show up in something at one award show and have it be big a fashion. Like, I mean, and that's what I have to say for Aubrey Plaza is like she didn't hit it out of the park this time. But she got people talking. Or like, Easter Ray showing up and being like,

at this moment in time, I am a 37-year-old Diana Ross appreciate this. And I love it. And then I thought this was a really good dress. This is Carrie Russell. And she did the long cape thing, which I am going to do when I go. Yes. Why not just come big and bold?

You can always switch to a different dress for the after party. But for sitting in your seat and possibly going up there to get a ward, have a train, have a cape, have a bustle, do it. Like, do it. And everything you have to say, what is my moment? I just worry about, are you spilling out of your seat? As somebody who in any situation will be spilling out of my seat just with my physical person, you don't want a cape.

I'm, well, the thing is, I think if I did go, I would wear a cape. Yeah, why not? And, um, yeah, so there you go. And then this was just a classic gorge. Yes, I mean, Megan Fahey. And she just wore like this beautiful blood red, just strapless, she's thin. It just was like so pretty.

I mean, it was so classic and pretty. It was great. She looks beautiful in it. And like also it was one of the people who, like at an Emmys where pretty much the people you expected to win, one, she was in one of the categories that was like, this is competitive. Yeah, good for her.

And then I thought, this is Donald Glover. And he's good at the job. And I just like, you know, when he didn't wear the classic tux. He did like a little embroidery. Anthony Anderson also wore like flout embroideries on a tux. I kind of like that. Like, A, you have to do so little as a man

to be doing something daring. Yeah. And also, I do think, like, the black, the stylist for black men, like the black stylist who work predominantly with Black male performers, do more interesting stuff. Yeah. But this is beautiful.

It's such magnificent detail work. And it's also not so frequently the answer for guys now is just like, don't wear a shirt and show off that I have a good torso. And I like that this is not just that. That it is. Yes, I think it's fun that they play around and just into the classic thing. All right, guys, let's talk about my new favorite show, Traders.

It is really juicy and really fun. Three episodes are out. You can watch it on peacock. Okay, so I did not watch it before. So let me explain how this works. And also, of course, like any of these competition games, they can change at any time. So you have Alan Cummings. He's the host. They go to this really cool place in Scotland. So it's like gloomy and dark and it's a castle. And it's this mix of different reality stars. So there's people from the challenge

and from Big Brother and Survivor. And then of course, my favorite's the house-wise. We have Tamara, we have MJ, Mercedes from Shaza Sunset, we have Fadra from Atlanta and Mary to Medicine. And I think that makes it, oh, we have Larsa Pippin. Okay, we have Larsa Pippin and her, now very serious boyfriend, Marcus Jordan, son of Michael Jordan, and they're this couple, they're featured on Real House as a Miami. So they come together, they're the only couple together.

And they go in this room and it's all serious and everybody's a faithful and then they are like, but there's gonna be a few traders and they don't know how many traders there are, but the guy goes around and he touches them as they wear blindfolds of who's a trader. So now a couple of them are traders and like I thought about telling you guys, but I really kind of think I want you to watch it.

So a couple of them are traders and so the challenge is they know they're a trader, meaning they hold the power. So they can come, they can murder people, meaning they get them off the show when they want. They also have to act like they're not a trader and they're, oh my god, I got to get the shield, which is kind of like their safety net for that round. And so that's where the game playing starts to happen. And it really is interesting how they do it. And then the challenges are they have to work together

to get more money in the pot for whoever the final winner is. So right now, I guess it's 250,000, but it could be more based on how much they put. So then they're like, well, we should all try to work together to get the most money during this challenge, but then when somebody goes and runs off and tries to get the shield, which can save them from elimination

or being murdered, then are they a target or are they not, or are they definitely not a trader because they're going for that shield. So then a couple of the traders want to go for the shield and act like, oh, hope I don't get murdered tonight when the whole time they're putting on their hood

and killing the people. So knowing how all these people are reality stars, it is kind of amazing because you see someone like Tamra tell the host, well, I lied to people's faces all the time I've been doing it for 16 years. And you're like, oh my God. And so I can act like I'm their friend and I can get past this.

And then the way they eliminate people is like they kind of like survivor and that they don't want the strong smart people stick around, but at the same time they have to make sure that in choosing the people that then they don't go, oh, obviously the trader is this person or this person because the minute they figure out who the trader is and that person is out for good.

So they do a couple of these round tables where they start to point at people and they point at this girl peppermint and because she slipped up and said, well clearly I'm a trader, I mean, I'm a faithful and they're like, you slipped up and they kick her out and she really was a faithful nod to Trader. So then they start feeling guilty and sad and they're like, oh my god, it was a mom

mentality. I feel so it's so it really is fun in every episode of there's three out now. It is very different. So anyway, guys, I'm telling you I'm going to be covering it. I'm going to be watching it. And I think it's really juicy. So check out Trader Season Two only on Peacock every Thursday new episodes drop 9 p.m. Easter. The Star. The Star. The Star. The Star.

The Star. The Star. Yes. Okay, I thought this was interesting because they got together for the Grey's Anatomy co-stars. And just for juicy scoop history. Yes. Do you remember when Catherine Hygol pissed off

Shonda Rhymes, got kicked off the show? Yes. And who was the, her best friend who was gay on the show? Oh, yes. He was there. She were nice. She were nice. What has happened, T-R-Night. T-R-Night. T-R-Night. What has happened to T-R-Night?

I mean, the thing about Grey's Anatomy being on for so long is that there are people who were like, stars of the show, who left the show, and then are just nowhere. I'm sure he has like, our respectable drama series that nobody watches that he's on. So there was T-R-Night, and T-R-Night accused the other actor who's black, what is it? our respectable drama series that nobody watches that he's on so there's tier nine and tier nine accused the

other actor yes black what if something washington he that he said that he called him a derogatory and i feel like all three of them just ended up leaving the show shortly after and and that is always rough when somebody points out discrimination and then they end up feeling so uncomfortable. It's very retaliatory. It makes me very sad. When someone points it out.

When somebody says this person did something wrong to me and then they are the person who ends up losing their job. Right. And then she went on the red carpet, Catherine Heigel, and at one point, disc the writers. Also something not good to do, which is basically Sean Deryme. So then she went on to do, she thought she was gonna be a movie star forever,

and all those, what I like to call dry bar movies. When you get your hair blown out, they play them over and over, which is like 27 bridesmaids. 27 dresses. And dresses, yeah, all those crappy movies. He said she said it. I went to all of them in the theater. Oh my god

Me too, and it was just always like with all that music that plays that dorky music of like don't like whoever's doing The sound editing of those stupid 2000 movies as they're like trying to get ready for a date It would be wrong to say she single-handedly suffocated the romantic comedy, but We did And but I was I loved I loved the humility Yes coming out and saying romantic comedy, but maybe she did. And. But I was, I loved, I loved the humility of coming out and saying, I am willing to be here with my Grey's Anatomy crew. I am happy and ready to work and I am still six inches taller than Ellen Pompeo.

Yes. And, but yeah, I remember we were on the round table and I said something I'm like she suffers from Catherine Hygge syndrome, which is where you believe the hype of your gay best friend too much. Yes, and I'm like I have to I blame T.R. Knight for her being becoming quite pompous as the Grey's Anatomy girl. Yes But then you also have a team of people that are like we're gonna get you movies in this and that and would you rather do a movie about bright-based dresses or learn 17 pages of medical terms that you overnight and she was in like she was in the like

What was the pregnancy one called not 40-year-old virgin? But right, but she was in like a huge romantic comedy. Judd, Apto, that was cute. She was in a huge romantic comedy. Like everything was on her side. I think it made sense. And I think it is unfair to like, I don't know. I think we're inclined to say like, a woman was experiencing Cubris

because she believed in herself. Where, you're right. You know, yes. You are totally right. Again, we don't say that about a guy. So true. This Vogue did this photo, and it is a Happy Birthday Kate Moss. And I saw it, and I was like, this is not

a flattering naked photo of her. And it was from whenever 10 years ago, who knows when. And the comments are like, you did her wrong. Like, also, I think whenever this photo was taken, having kind of a flat ass was still acceptable. And so I think people are not used to seeing like, a real body, it's like her naked body twisted and turned. But again, I wouldn't be thrilled if that was what

Vogue posted to say happy birthday to me. I would be like, really? Could you ask me first? I, as a fat, get kind of annoyed with people who made a living off of having a perfect body or being extremely skinny, turning 47 and then saying like, let's all have real bodies. Hey, accept yourself.

And like, I think it's a really beautiful photo. I think it is like an homage to like Rubens and those sort of like, you know. The statues of the arts. Brogol, I think Brogol. But like, you know, the sort of like 17th century sort of like voluptuous cortisone sort of buttocks kind of thing. And I think it looks really good, but I am like...

I think the bigger thing is, yes, Vogue magazine obviously owns the photo. She did a photo shoot with them. They said, Happy Birthday. Maybe she approved it. We may not know the backstory, but I would hope that if you were going to do something like that that wasn't just like you and modeling from 1975 and you're wearing a Ralflora and blazer, whatever, if it was anything more risque than that,

I think you should ask the person. Even though you've signed off, you don't own the photos anymore. I just think that would be the classy thing for Vogue to do. And be like, hey, down with this photo, we wanted to give you a happy birthday. I mean, like that's, that's a really, really good point. I think there is sort of an assumption that models are just understand that their bodies

are out there. Yeah. And I don't know how protective of them we can be when it is like something they have chosen to commodify about themselves. I just have an issue when you get in the door by being hotter than me and then once you're in the door you say, hey, why can't we all go to seed? I'm like calm down. I agree. Let's talk about real housewives of Salt Lake City. Have you watched it at all?

Okay, I have only seen the cultural impact of I have the receipts, I have the websites, What is it? Well, this stuff I want to talk to you about today. It's just what the juicy thing that came out on last night's episode. Okay. Which is, okay, so Monica, this one at the bottom. Uh-huh. She, you know, was, she's quite a shady past. Uh-huh. She had an affair with her husband's sister's husband. So her brother-in-law for 18 months. They got divorced and she had a marriage before that. So she's been divorced twice, cheated, whatever. Then she's got this mother.

And the mother was featured on the show and they fight horribly to each other. Like say, FU and all this other, like horrible to each other on the show, FU and all this other like horrible to each other on the show. And a lot of people are like, and myself included, this feels very like they're acting. We now know that she set out to get on the show. She made friends with Jen Shaw. She worked with Jen Shaw. Oh, wait. I didn't see that. Yes. So she set out to get on the show she started a fake account called reality vantes where she would share all the stuff.

Now there's a another site that covers all the stuff. It's called all about the real housewives. And they just came out with an article, say according to them and allegedly, that on the reality vantes, which she ran a couple of other people, they released these videos of Gen Shot treating her staff horribly, screaming out-demon. And people were like, how did they ever get those videos?

Well, according to this, when she went and befriended Gen Shot and was working with her, she said you should have surveillance cameras here and she set it up, but the cameras went to her phone. And that is why she had all those things to then expose, because I remember corresponding with reality vantes because she was exposing how awful Jen Shaw was to her fashion designer and her staff and everything with these videos that she was putting out there. She then hides that identity, gets on the show, has her mother come on the show with her and last night she really reveal a lot of reveals how awful the mother is and the mother is

awful she's awful but the mother is what made her awful to the mother is one of the mothers who's totally narcissistic and really jealous of her daughter so you think she's really a monster and not performing monster I think she's both okay I think she is a monster I think she is a monster. I think you can also feel sorry for her because she does have a horrible mother and she did have some bad things happen to her. But the calculating and being fake to people's faces, I will never forgive reality show or not. This isn't traders. This was a reality show. You're supposed to look at that when you're acting like

they're when you're being their friend. You're supposed to be their friend. So just to clarify, so she went and was like, you should get these cameras. Yes. And she was like, according to this story. And she was like, oh, where do I do that? And she was like, I'll set it all up. I mean, that's genius.

And it makes me wonder about like, the legality of it, because this person was agreeing to do this with her. I mean, well, it's like, listen, anyone that's could trying to be an assistant to an entertainer in 2024, good fucking luck. Oh. So she was her assistant?

She was kind of her glorified assistant. Oh, wonderful. Do you think finding out that this woman created reality of on T so that she could get herself on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is going to help people figure out that you are Duret doing a character, that your entire career was just Duret establishing herself,

like talking about gossip and that sort of thing, so she could play herself up and then make it onto Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. You think that is what Duret is doing? I think that's who you've been for the past 30 years of your career, just Doreed Kim's late little wig. Yeah, whenever anybody would say, would you be on the house?

I'm like, no, I'm too on the inside of, that's like, you would never hire someone like this in on. So if they knew who she was, if she, what I don't like about anonymous stuff, which I've said, is that by hiding behind anonymous things, and listen, I follow a lot of these anonymous influencers in this world and they do really good work, but you do have, you're not really putting yourself out there because you could be this anonymous person who's putting out all this crazy info about a Duret, and then go to an event as a completely different person

and make friends with Doreet and maybe go to her home and maybe see PK and then go back and be typing away. That's why it's scary. This woman needs to be working for the CIA. I think she's brilliant. She should possibly be running our country. I am, it's so impressive. Okay, you say that now, but I think if season one or two

of Beverly Hills, they had come to you and said, do you wanna do this? I think there was a point when like the powers diverged where it was like you could have, because like you were, you had so much. I was just never wealthy enough, but now they don't care. This gold doesn't have any money either.

Now they don't care because the wealthy people are too smart to do it. So they need the poor people. Like let's be fair to Alex McCord. It's never mattered that much. Okay, so then she says in the thing about her mother, you know, because she said one of the sad stories she said on the show was when my mom, when I was 12, my mom dropped me off at this family. I didn't even know who they were. They weren't even relatives. To watch me for like a year, while she went to New York for work. And I was like, what is the work? Was it to be a rocket? Was it to go after a rich guy? I don't think it was, you know, selling IBM computers. What the fuck was the work? So now

today, yesterday she revealed to Andy, yes, it was to pursue a work in television, actress, whatever, said television. And so then she's like, and when I went to my mom's house after I did my final interview and I think I bombed, I didn't think I was going to get it. I laid on her couch and I was crying. And she goes, let's say a prayer. And she's like, this is what the mom says to her. Let's say a prayer.

And she goes, the prayer was, if Monica doesn't get it, won't they give it to me? Will they give it to me? And so now they're not talking because the mom wasn't happy with her performance and wasn't happy with, and there's video of, now this girl, Monica, filmed a lot of her mom being horrible to her.

And then she would send it to Tanisha, who is a hairdresser for Heather Gay, who is also one of the people that have access to the reality vantes Instagram. And she was not picking up the phone, she was picking up new audio messages and sending videos and everything. That girl now has released it all and one of the videos she shows is the mom scolding her for her performance at the girl and she's Easter party and she was like you were off the you were screaming she's like mom you need to protect me you know why you're getting mad at me and she's like she goes the producer said I did great Monica says them on the

producer said I did great and she goes I don't care what the producer says this is not the goal of this you're an actress and if you're going to them on the producers that I did great and she goes, I don't care what the producer says, this is not the goal of this. You're an actress and if you're going to continue on, you can't be a complete asshole. It's what the mom was saying. The mom was kind of giving you a good advice. She was kind of like peel it back a little so that these women like you and you continue to stay. The mom knew what the mom was a better acting coach than the producer.

A 45 year old woman getting dance moms makes me thrilled. It like, I do think... I don't think she's 45. If she listens to this, I'll probably think she's most angry about that. The thing is, as a fan of Survivor, watching how the show has evolved over the years is fascinating. Watching how how Swifes shows evolved with things like, you know, Jill Zaren figuring out that you could, you know, call a gossip columnist and get something.

Like, watching the show, the show's gently turned into traders. It is like three dimensions. It really kind of is. And I think we don't, I don't know. It made this season good. So it's like, this is it is what it is. I'm not gonna say what I want,

who I never want to say. Like, this person should come back or not come back or whatever. I think it would be pretty inauthentic if she came back and they had to act like they could be her friend. But you want that, like you do want that core of authenticity. The fact that like Ramona was so old school that you always knew that at the end of the day, even if she was mad at Sonya, she liked being friends with, like just you want to have those friendships

that feel real. Those friendships are deep. It's like they can be jealous of each other and they can be like you're annoying, but like yeah, somebody gets sick in the family, someone dies, they're gonna be there. Like, you know. Do you think that Dorit feels lost

since Kyle became a lesbian? What I want to just finish this then i'm going to the bible is a kidding the bible so anyway that was revealed the mom is a piece of shit also okay so then this is also a piece of shit mom this is black china's mom uh-huh black china's ex-boyfriend said that the mom was sending him deans saying black china my daughter is jealous of my natural better body than black china and was sending himdians saying, black China, my daughter, is jealous of my natural, better body than black China, and was sending him like sexy things.

Wonderful. So I just thought there was a real connection between Monica and her mom. Yes. And then there's a version of it here, and I just think, my God, these women are not gonna have a good mother's day this year. I mean, it's really hard.

You want people to be able to support their children. Like, do you think if your daughter ended up on a reality show, you would be able to have a healthy sense of distance, or would you try to put yourself into it as much as possible? I would just be in it when she wants to be to be to be. Yes.

You know, like I say that too, when people are like, would you be part of my reality show? I'm like, throw me around in the room. I will come to your party. Yes. I don't think I want to like sign up for a real thing, but you never know.

But anyway, I want to just say one more thing. The photo that's not featured here is Mary. Mary is a cult leader that married her step-brother, had a child with him. And she was in the first part of the season in which she just told everybody straight to their face, like, I hate you, you're awful. I don't wanna be here, don't sit next to me.

Get away from me, little girl. She was like, always awful to everybody. So then we now know they just stopped inviting you or the shit. So she comes in and now she's like, they're like, who do you like, Mary? And she's like, I like Monica, because she's pretty. I don't like you, Heather.

And Heather's like, well, you said I look like I was in bread. And she goes, well, you do. But you said a mean thing about my house. And he's like, wait, what she said about your decorated house is worse than what you said. She's in bread. She's like, yes, I do think it's worse. And I'm like, the fact that everybody sitting on this couch,

nobody is like, you ran a cult. And you live in a house with millions and millions of dollars of goods that you got from your poor dumb people that you convinced that you were the second coming of Jesus Christ who gave you money, who you then bought designer crap with. And now you're sitting here like I just some like I don't I mean she is weird. She's entertaining but like the fact that no one brings up the fact that she's running a corrupt church for her own gain is so weird that no one will say that on stage. I mean, like a brand new kind of also understand not wanting to go after those things that are at the core of someone.

Like if you do have any regard for someone understanding like Like there are just aspects of people that are so fundamental to them that you're like, I'm not going to do that. You know, it's like if I were friends with the president of France, like it would be totally crazy. Even if I got in a fight with him, I wouldn't bring up the fact that his wife molested him when he was in high school. The fact that we don't talk more about that the current president of France is married to his teacher who was his draw a was his draw a teacher right? I'm not sure. Yes, it was a draw a teacher. She he was 15. She was 40. She was

married with kids. Yes, they fully had an affair. Have they seen me December? Have they seen me December is my question. For real, I don't know. They fully and and people get mad. Yes, it wasn't an affair because he wasn't. He was, I've said this before, an affair. It's not an affair. She molested him, okay? Great.

They, he went off to college. Yes. And she since has talked a little bit of it and she got divorced and she was definitely thought he would find young girls in college and never. But after college, he came back to her. Yes. And now he's like 45 and she's like 67. Yeah. Something and um but I mean she's the first

of the first lady of France. He became like the president of France when he was crazy young. Like I just don't like it's crazy that people don't freak out more about it. It's insane that how are the French people walking around not? How, how, do they not have to bait? Do you imagine if Donald Trump was debating him and didn't bring up the fact that his life like? But also, I think, I don't know what their age of consent is, but I think they have a cultural idea that like a man who is a teenager

has like full sexual agency, which I don't agree with. But still it was a teacher situation. And she was married. So it was like a full strike. Have you seen May, December? Yes. OK. So like I just hope they watch May, December,

and then they have a moment like Charlie Mountain and Julia and Moore, where he gets to say like, maybe I wasn't in control. That's even what he's like. And it's just like, you were wasn't to control myself. That's what he's like. And then she's like, you were, say it, you were, who was in control, who was in control, who hit on me, who hit on me. You saw that that was from actual footage

of Mary Kay LaTerno. Yes, when she was like, I remember that because I was obsessed with that story of Mary Kay LaTerno. And she was like, he was the aggressor. When he slept over as my son's friend in the church grade, and I went down to get a nice water, and he was sleeping on the couch, he was the aggressor is what she said.

Jesus Christ. Amazing. But he's around, she's dead now, Mary Kay. And he's like hurt by this, okay. So there are people who are like, should they have made this movie considering that there is a victim out there and you're sort of like retraumatizing this person. Right. Or like what everyone, what the screenwriter is, I just like, it's like inspired by this thing that was in our culture. It's not about this

particular situation. Do you think it is wrong for them to do this and not consult him or talk to him at all? Or do you think it's fair game? Well, I guess it if you consult him then you kind of got to take his two cents and give him money so I can see why they didn't but it is it is kind of, but at the same time, I think he's, I don't know, he's been money off of it. What would you do? I think the most important part of the movie may December are there are two B-shots of the pool being shitty

and then the pool being refinished, just to remind you that she got 10 to 20 grand off of letting Natalie Portman come and job shadow her. And that's like, like, just, I wrote you about to be bad. I was like, how are they rich and living on this island? And I thought that was kind of interesting that they like had waterfront property. And I was like, because the real couple, when I was, I remember I was doing a show at Bellevue Comedy Club in Washington state, near Seattle. And then later in the week,

he was gonna be a DJ and it was hot for teacher night and she was gonna come and the poster was her in a schoolgirl outfit and him. But so they were like hustling this still, like 10 years ago. Yes, the notion of this trauma that is still something that you profit from is just so like, I can't even remember what else are you gonna do.

What else are you gonna do? What else are you gonna do? Okay, so you were, like we were talking a little bit about Beverly Hills and you wanted to ask me about Kyle and Morgan. Yes, like I personally think that the real victim here, yes, Kyle's marriage breaking up does affect her children, but I think Doreach no longer having best Jewish couple friends is really hard.

And I think it hurts her place on the show. Well, recently Kyle did an Amazon live, which is, she's supposed to be selling products, but basically she just spills tea. I don't really understand how it works. Anyways, of course, somebody asked and she said, well, Doreach said that, you know, we went on all these trips together. We went on one trip as a force, like three years ago, and all the other trips that she mentioned and showed photos of were from cast trips.

So she kind of was being a little mean to Doreet. She's like, I love to read, but come on. Like, she's pushing down that Doreet is feeling like we're not longer close and we really work close even when the cameras are around and she's like we're with that close. I have gone back and forth on her and Morgan's relationship. And it is literally like this. I'm like it's real. It's not real.

It's for PR. It's to promote the thing. They may be they fingered once, but they aren't anymore. Now I take it back. I do think they're a couple. I think it lines up with all of the goofy, like the core goofinesses of Kyle's identity. Kyle crying because people didn't like the hat store.

Like, and did you see the Instagram of Rihanna like her hat store in Aspen? see the Instagram of Rihanna like her hat store in Aspen? Yeah, yeah. Like I was so happy for Kyle. But like this, and look, we've all known some latent life lesbians in our lives, and I do think it is. Some that were waiting to come out. Yes. Yes. But I think for her, like I think that this was like potential bisexuality that was always there. And I think that this was like potential bisexuality that was always there and I think just men Take women for granted especially over 35 or 40 and like having somebody who really appreciates you and really takes care of you Is very appealing in its way. I just

Look Doree is my favorite Beverly Hills housewife, but she is billi- Thank you, Guy. So many people have seemed to have lost interest in what I'm really, truly about. I think she is running on fumes right now. Her identity for two to three seasons has been I'm Kyle's best friend, and now Kyle doesn't want her to be her best friend.

And there was a moment in this season when it seemed like Crystal Cunglingoff was going to attempt to disl launch her draw and eat Kyle and I need to read. And I was like, wonderful. Let there be a little fight before there is the big fight between the people to them. Are we scared that this could be Doreet's last run? I'm really, really worried about it. I am too for the first time.

Even though they had a good therapy session where they're talking about how he's like, you're not the happy, you know, you were so excited, which I was like, yeah, he, they do a therapy session. He's like, she was so, you know, enthusiastic in everything in the beginning. Well, 10 years ago, he was this older rich guy and she was this young girl that didn't have an English accent and had a different face. And you know, he let her spend and spend and spend and now she is, now she's not impressed

with a pretty woman evening. Yeah. She's not. And it's like, well, that's what happens. Guys get a young girl and they're so excited that the guy bought them a pair of shoes that they're gonna, you know, prance around and tell all their friends.

And their 50-year-old first wife wasn't that excited about any gift the guy got him. But then that young girl eventually becomes just like wife one and is no longer impressed with you. And that's all it is. Kyle can get away with a season of just doing like light comedy in family scenes. There's nobody else who can get away with a full season of just doing like comedy in family scenes and

I really hope the Doree gets another season and I don't think she will but if Doree attempted to take down Crystal or the new girl. What's the girl new girls? Sam and Marie and Marie if she really attempted to Lucy Lucy apple juice one of them. Yeah. Like, I would be thrilled by that. I think that that would be good television. I think if she could properly stay out of like the sites of Garsell or Sutton, she could like be really fun.

B story is on a lot of shows. So do you think Kyle and Morgan Wade are going to be the reality version of Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor, the May-December lesbian relationship that's been going on for, like, at least 10 years? Not at all. I respect Sarah Paulson and her relationships so much. They are the fucking classiest. Holland Taylor, of course, cherry-jones, yes.

And looking at Sarah Paulson, I don't know. When you look at Kyle being around Morgan Wade, I am just like, she's, I think truly enraptured. I'm gonna make you love Mike. First of all, I've got this. I hate her so much. I don't. I actually like the song that she played at the memorial.

Though that song had nothing to do with your friend dying. But I, you know, I also think girls do steal style from their girlfriends and boyfriends. How many times does, you know, look at Courtney, a Kardashian becoming a punker. Like it happens at every age, you know, it could totally happen. So I do think. But also lesbian couple merging is stronger. Like it is like losing sense of boundaries. Because it's a double.

It's your girlfriend, your best friend who's now you're sharing clothes with in style, but you're also in love with them. So it's like a double emerging of a thing. And so I do think she's just enjoying that style. She's sober like Morgan. She's sober like Morgan. She's fit like Morgan. Now she's getting into Morgan's music. She's doing her documentary. She's done with she's like had an awakening. But I and I do think I but this is what else think.

I think once she breaks up with Morgan, if they don't end up their day together, I don't think she'll have another lesbian relationship. I think she'll go back to being with either Mauricio or another guy or- So go back to Mauricio. Yeah. Okay, I think the thing is, is like, this is not a situation.

This is not a situation where like, a high functioning service lesbian came, like a service top lesbian who is like, I'm gonna be in control but for you. Came to where Kyle was. She made Kyle pick up everything and move everything. And like Kyle doesn't want to be sober. Kyle doesn't, you know, she wants to be a little bit fit,

but like I really do think that this is something she'll do for an exquisite 18 months. And then I think she will find out about Morgan and having strayed a little bit in some way. And then it'll be a journey out of that and then a journey back to Mauricio because, or Morgan will just kind of grow out of her. Just like, you know, like, I'm kind of over this and I got what I needed out of it.

I don't know. Right now, they're very close. They spent her birthday together in Mexico. They're walking around in similar outfits. Okay. The other way I think this could go is Kyle gets brought into. And one of the things that's hard about this is like becoming a lesbian involves merging into this,

like potentially this larger world of female friendship that isn't any of these ladies that we love. But I think if she goes to some lesbian parties and then one of Morgan's friends or one of Morgan's ex-girlfriends makes a play at her, that is the only step up the ladder of lesbianism I think that she makes. Would be if let's be honest, a higher ranking, more powerful lesbian. Like, shit, like, if one of Jody Foster's exes was at a party and was like, hey, Kyle, I really love you on the show.

Like, I think that that happened. But I don't think that's ever going to happen because a real power lesbian is not going to be interested in a Kyle type, do you think? I think that, like, for some of them, the notion of having a status wife, the notion of being a husband, I think that there are LA power lesbians

who would like the appeal of being a Mauricio or a PK on this show. You know, I show up, I make her happy, and then I go off, and that's my place in this world. Yeah. Exactly. Okay, but I'll just go before we move on. Do you think sudden overplayed her hand this season? No.

What do you mean overplayed her hand? It's like was just- Just being her, acting like the PTSD thing? Making everything about her and being so aggressive and kind of putting herself into a situation where like even Garcell wasn't excited about defending her. Yeah, I mean, I just think there's seasons where there just isn't that much going on with you. Yes.

And, you know, and you are like, I don't think she's over the whatever happened that night. I think that she is freaked out about it and she is going to use it for sympathy and he's over it. He's tired of it About the robbery because he's like well, you know Oh, Sutton sorry, I thought I said to read Sutton with oh my god, let's just talk about the bad acting at the the Casting of her dates. Oh, they're all like like they're all former actors. I feel like I'm watching a million dollar listing which I'm going to get to right here. Okay. Million dollar mat, not listing million dollar matchmaker. This is

this is patty now. And I've been friends with her for a long time. And I know since now Netflix just bought the show and I couldn't believe it. So I went back and was watching it from 2011. Wonderful. And I just want to say her work on her face is so good to think that in this day and age, you could be cuter and hotter at 60 than you were at like 43. To you. Is why it's great to be born today.

Do you know her well enough to find out the name of the doctors? Yes. Oh, I'm sure she would tell me she told me she got her teeth done. Uh-huh. So that's a big big difference She always had full lips, but I think she had her full. This is what I think I think she just I think each other knows done And I think she got jaw filler and cheekbones because I'm watching the show and she didn't have that So what and then she lost weight and she looks amazing looks fucking amazing because this was her Yeah, and she where are these two people so she had these two For million dollar match make for those that don't know it was one of the first bravo shows was on for years and She would say on me my millionaires and she put people it was all very

and she would say, meet my millionaires and she put people, it was all very produced and cast and everything, okay? I don't think any two people that met on the show ever ended up together. But outside of that, she claimed that she really did have match-finks matches that ended up in this. So for some reason, she had this couple

that looked like they run a tattoo parlour. It was ridiculous. It made no sense why she had them. And then they sit around and talk about these girl's styles that their dress doesn't fit and that they nobody likes a red head. And I'm like, this is what we're talking about. These two people.

It was the magnificent ridiculousness of like a more cast and a more sort of like Like the beginning of reality was so weird. We didn't know what we were doing and It is just amazing. So on this episode they had this guy gummy bear Uh-huh, and his name in real life was was he Jason? Yeah, he was Jason Davies who inherited all this money and so I just watched that episode from like 2011 and he was like such a mess and and his brother was named Jason Davies and so coincidentally had the world universe just brings me something so I was talking to you about it I

remember that time Yesterday on TMZ They brought up the fact that in the Mean Girls movie the musical. Yeah, they make a firecrotch reference Yes, which now Lindsey Lohan did not know until she like went to the premiere or watched it. So wow because There was this moment when Jay when Jason Davis who's now engaged to like a pretty little Lyres actress. He was hanging out with Paris and they said, oh, what's up with Lindsay? And he goes, Lindsay is a firecrotch.

She's a firecrotch. And here it is, Lindsay Lohan, she's a firecrotch. And like Lindsay's dad now is like getting involved why would they put that in the movie and What did they bring it up? Well on on that episode the same episode with the gubbi bear guy There's a redhead on the show that's trying to get on and and patty stinger's like No, you're not hot enough. You're not cute enough, you're not allowed. And then she shows up at the party, and of course, produce product.

And then patty goes, get the hell out of my party, you're an ugly red head, you're always gonna be something like that, and you're like, and she's like, you're a firecrotch, and she calls her a firecrotch, the girl trying to get all the show. Did we do a monologue about that on Chelsea Atlantic? We always talked about these things.

It was all, this was the time of Lindsay, Brittany, Paris. It was that, you know, 2009 to like 2011 time. Beautiful times. But she would tell people, these girls are walking in, she'd be like, you're ugly, no one's gonna want to fuck you. Like it's literally that mean. She's like, face your team. We 100% could not do now.

It would be like now, it would all be about learning and growing. But it is beautiful to look back on that time. No, there's even a part in this where the gubbi bear guy, he was Jason, Jason, right? Brandon was the one who's the firecrouchers alive. Jason goes, he's with this girl. He gets a girl and he's like asking about her underwear, what, he gets a girl and he's like, um, asking her about her underwear, what's under her skirt and he's like, but is there a cock under there? Because that I don't

want any part of. And she's like, no. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Like, no, I mean, we were like, but I just hope people don't go after her because this was a completely different time. I mean, it is really horrifying to look back at the way that trans people were talked about in media like five years ago, seven years ago, and it is really rough. I like, there are so many people who are so lucky that she'll nothing just lately is accessible offline because so many of us would be destroyed. Well, that's a last five saying. Like nobody needs to go on this. If you want to spend your time and go on this and then write her meme stuff

or start it being a hate group, it's not going to matter because it's so long ago and nobody is going to agree to it. But it is, I am stuck in it. We'll just really go in. We just need to learn, oh because even just like,

even just like. The passions. Like, but like, even just like. The passions. Like, but like Robert Downey Jr., who is going to Win an Academy Award this year, was nominated for an Academy Award for a blackface performance 13 years ago. Oh, and like there's, there like truly, it's wonderful how much the world has changed,

but I think particularly for young people, they like don't understand how to deal with it. And I think it is weird for us to watch stuff from not that long ago and just be like, Jesus Christ, like conventional wisdom was so horrible to so many people. I just want to say, I want to know what these two people are by the way. Matchmaking is an ancient and respected Jewish profession. And if I am going to have a shadchen, I want her to be carrying an extra 15 pounds. Like, I trust those bosoms to find me a man

much better than the skinny faggot's version. I mean, I wonder how much of that is ozempic and how much of that is like. She's been skinny for a while. She's been looking amazing for a while. OK. Why does Erica refuse to admit that it's the the or do you think it is i think now people will admit it because the reason why is last year if you said it then everyone came after you and we're like you're taking that out of yeah now that you there's so many versions

of it in so many ways to get it now people are being honest about it there's so many versions of it and so many ways to get it. Now people are being honest about it. There's still some people that have been skinny their whole lives that Arnaz Kut is their heavier friend who's now hotter than them because they always had a cuter face. Who's like, you're cheating and it's like, do what you want. And then people are always so excited to hear that someone's bowels fell out and the toilet or whatever. And I'm like, okay, so be careful. This doesn't work for everybody. Just like any medication doesn't work for everybody,

but like clearly it's a miracle drug. Where do you think they are now? These people? Yes. I someone will find them for me, just the scuppers. They, well, I remember talking to her about it and she said they didn't want to come back to the show. They wanted more money and they were going to do their own.

They thought they were going to get their own show matchmaking like punkers who match make. I don't know what they're going to call. I think they're probably not in the business at all, like probably no longer together because they probably blamed each other for the breakup. And, you know, just having normal lives, just working, maybe she's like a hairdresser and he's like a tattoo artist. Well, there's the really rough thing about,

like first 10 or 15 years of reality TV, it's possible that they were just getting and supporting characters. Like, like a thousand dollars. Yeah, yeah. And then they were seeing all the popularity and we're like, well, if we can't get $3,000 in app. And they're like, well, think of my,

Patty, just dumb, you need a different thing. Yeah. Yeah, but also, that's okay to leave, because it's like, you might have tapped out. Like, if this is all you've gotten after being on three years, your fourth year isn't gonna like pop you into an amazing spot. Because after her success, they tried to do a show called The Head Huntress, and my friend got cast as

What is that? It was like she was like a high-end like head hunter for businesses and they ran the pilot on Bravo a couple of times But like they cast her secretary. They did not use her actual secretary. They like cast My friend who at that time presented as hot gay and is now Non-binary, you know, was he? Oh, we present like Like is more appropriate to use they as pronouns for them. Okay, but they at that point in time looked like Hot gay man. Okay, but they like figured themselves out and now present as a more lady. Oh, all right. Well, who knows?

I'm going to end on this as how someone sent this to me and they go, I bet this was a movie Heather loved. It was called Angel. Yes. It was one of my favorite main for TV movies. High school honor student by day. Hollywood hooker by night. Wonderful. Her two worlds are about to collide. It's her choice, her chance, her life. You guys, I have to get my hands on this movie. Yeah. I absolutely watched it growing up. Like literally

put it in my calendar, could not wait for it to come out. Yes. I loved anything about street walking because I liked their slutty outfits that you had to wear to be a street walking hooker. Yes. You know, do it at your own home with only fans. Yes. And she went to a private school like I did and had like a very nice life, but loved being a hooker.

Can you believe someone wrote this? A girl under 18. I mean, it wants to be a Hucker, wants to be a sex worker, which is called Hucker Black. But there's also the way that like late 70s, early 80s, we were obsessed with the sexuality of teenagers. It was like making a movie about how 13 year olds

wanted to get it on with adult men was supposed to be like sophisticated. Though I finally, I listened to the podcast you must remember this about Polyplat. And I didn't realize that Polyplat. Polyplat is the woman who was marrying to the guy who directed last picture show. And so she's who irreconcilable differences is based on.

So her husband was a director and she worked with him and then they broke up and he stopped making good movies. And then she produced a bunch of stuff and wrote a bunch of stuff and when I realized that pretty baby was written by a woman and like a smart woman who I respected I was like oh god this movie that I've always considered very gross I will go and watch it and it ended up being an interesting movie that was trying to like grapple with the commodification of women's sexuality but then did you watch the Brooksheel documentary? Yes, I have watched the movie too, yeah.

But like the Brooksheel documentary, her children just being like, I never want to see that. Like having to, like realizing that there are children out there who have to be like, there's a movie about my mom being sexualized as a child, which is really gross. But I also think that like when you are a 13, 14, 15 year old girl,

particularly, did you watch? I mean, I'm just thinking about this movie. First of all, it was written by this guy, Robert Vincent O'Neill. Where is he? And then also, I have to do it with this movie. Like, why did you have to do it? Just like what I think about pretty woman, you know?

I'm like, but pretty woman, the character of Julie Roberts, before she got picked up in the car, was like going in strangers cars and sucking strangers dirty dick at $100. And living with drug addicts, Laura San geocombo. And having full-blown sex was strange. And also, just beyond that is the knowledge that like because of those women's place in society and the economy, a third of those guys thought that they got to knock them around or whatever.

And the fact that we make this movie that like romanticizes it is like so strange. It's so crazy. But like, don't like, did you see the movie bottoms with I mean I cannot imagine it is something you wanted to see. No, but I saw the ad. It was about gay guys, right? No, no. Is, am I getting the name wrong? No, but it was, it's girls and guys, but what's it about? It's not about gay sex. It's about lesbian sex. It's about girls who start a fight club at their high school. But like one of the jokes in it is that like high school is just this machine for celebrating the changes in men's bodies.

Like, you know, the way that like every high school football player is like a pin up that the school is getting excited about and cheering for. And like women have traditionally not had people who were like getting excited about in like a comfortable way with their coming to sexual agency. And I think that I know so many women around my age who would watch this or like that, was it called Foxes? Like Foxes. Who were just like, yes, I am having these feelings. I want to go on these adventures in like a safe way, the way that Christy McNichol gets to, and not in a way that involves my uncle looking at me

weird when I wear a tight shirt. Oh my God, Guy Brannum, we gotta wrap it up. Tell everybody where they can follow you what you have going on. I'm at Guy Brannum across all social media. I have a show at the Elisian on May 7th in Los Angeles. And people, I think tickets are coming out. It's part of Netflix is a joke.

Oh, classy. And my talk show got taken off of Max so you can no longer watch it there. So it doesn't exist now. Oh, well, wait, but you said you have another show at Atlanta. I don't know. That was just from the past. Oh, from the past. OK, well, listen, you're working on so many things

You're a writer producer showrunner show creator. Yes, we all have a lot of hyphens. You have a lot of shit going on So follow guy beside to being brilliant. Yes Game show guests you're a singer. You're a licensed real estate agents. No not anyway. Well, I let that expire So technically I'm not. I during during the strike was like, do I have to re up my bar membership? Did you? Oh, you know, anyway, thank you so much, everyone.

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