Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Was Ryan Reynolds the Villain in Blake vs. Justin? with Zack Peter

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Pop culture expert Zack Peter is here! We discuss the new theories that have come about regarding Ryan Reynolds involvement in getting Blake Lively to file her complaint against Justin Baldoni. I have... a theory behind her horrible outfits especially the one from the rooftop scene. Zack and I give our predictions and It Ends in Divorce? What will happen to the sequel? We also cover RHSLC Reunion and the jewelry storyline. Will Brynn be fired from RHONY? So juicy! Enjoy! Go to https://MeUndies.com/juicyscoop and enter promo code juicyscoop to get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping Join Kravit Jewelers in making a difference. Together, we can help protect LA’s beloved pets and wildlife. Visit https://KravitJewelers.com to learn more or purchase your pendant today.  Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald on iTunes, the podcast app, and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPodApple  https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:32 Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales. Her real life Mr. Safe and Serial Data and Serial Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Woo woo. Hannah McDonald.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Yeah. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, you guys, we are getting excited because Valentine's Day is around the corner and that means I will be in New York City. I have such a great show, so many funny things. It's a standup, this is a little bit of Housewives fun,
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Starting point is 00:02:37 You will not regret it. You'll be the happiest people ever. But now for our show. You guys have been asking, why don't you bring on Zack Peter? He is the expert of the Blake, Justin, and Ryan Reynolds saga. And thank goodness he's already been a Juicy Scooper coming on the show,
Starting point is 00:02:58 but you have done some really great work in this. Your videos are doing great. Thank you. And of course, I've talked a lot about it, but listen people, don't tell me you're bored by this because you can't be. And there's more and more and more info. And I even spent more hours this weekend
Starting point is 00:03:15 and I have my own crazy theory that I cracked last night that nobody else has done that I'm so excited to share with you. But let's get into it all from the beginning. Because I said in the beginning, when I first heard about Blake filing a lawsuit, her complaint, I was really drawn to the facts that were shared by New York Times based on her complaint about a possible smear campaign. I was never totally convinced about sexual harassment
Starting point is 00:03:52 because I did think, wow, that's kind of a hard thing to gauge when you're playing romantic partners and intimate court, but all that. But I did go, gosh, I mean, I do remember these things coming out and old videos coming out. And I understand how bot farms and things work. Yeah. So I did think that either Justin was guilty of that or his people were guilty of it.
Starting point is 00:04:14 OK. And then when he was like, screw this, and he filed his lawsuit, I started to see a little bit more of the full text, the this, the that, and I still was giving it like, hey, I think they're both thirsty and weird. But now, I am here to say, I have seen the light, and I am glad that he stuck up for himself, and I am glad that he has all these facts and that he's not backing down, because now it's a whole nother story
Starting point is 00:04:46 that I think really involves Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively's husband. So now, tell me your journey in covering, because you really have read all 179 pages and all that stuff. Yeah, I mean, at this point, it feels like 500 pages, because of all the different lawsuits. But no, so I immediately, so my friend, Daily Dose of Donna,
Starting point is 00:05:08 sent me the complaint as soon as it dropped in the New York Times, and she's like, oh my god, you have to read this. And I was like, I couldn't care less. I'm like, it's Christmas, Blake Lively, I'm like, I don't know if I believe this. I have one question, and I am gonna be interrupting, because that's what we do on the show.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I have a question. That's part of a conversation. Okay, because the movie came out in- August, right? Was it August? July or August. Okay, so I saw the movie right before the lawsuits. I saw the movie, so that would have been
Starting point is 00:05:42 maybe like end of November or something. I saw it at my house and I've said, I didn't think it was good. I thought it was lame. I did fast forward through the flashback parts. I only liked the parts with her and Justin, but I saw all the parts with her and Justin, which is what this is about.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So I have seen the movie, I have not read the book. My question is to you, I felt like the little bits that we saw about her being a bitch and you know not having shitty interviews in the past and being this prima donna, I feel like that chatter had stopped. Yeah people stopped talking. It stopped. So why do you think they did choose to do the initial lawsuit? Well, it wasn't a lawsuit. So what happened, and I'll point out the red flags that I noticed when this dropped in the New York Times, which
Starting point is 00:06:31 I'm surprised somebody as savvy as you did not, this was like screaming red flags from the beginning. So first up, it gets dropped in the New York Times, right? Who did the expose on Harvey Weinstein? So I think this was their attempt to try and create another similar scandal, okay? Because the New York Times- Ryan and Blake and her team.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Ryan and Blake, correct. Because when the article dropped, one, didn't have the traditional paywall that the New York Times normally has, and two, somebody that reads a lot of celebrity lawsuits and scandals dating back to like, you know, the drarity Erica Jane stuff, which is where I first got my Al Wood's, you know...
Starting point is 00:07:05 Degray? Yeah, my toes wet in that. And so I was like, wait a minute. It's normally not this easy to obtain a full lawsuit from a celebrity and then... And I want to ask a question. Because we know that he is suing them for $400 million. Correct.
Starting point is 00:07:22 He's suing the New York Times for defamation based on their coverage of it for how much? Correct. Undisclosed. Okay. And we don't know what she... What is it? Is she suing him for money, Justin, and his production company? Yes. What is she suing? And we don't know how much? We don't know how much. So it's basically the judgment will be determined in court.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Got it. He's the only one that has set a number in his lawsuit. Her damages are undisclosed. His lawsuit against the New York Times damages undisclosed. TBD in court. Got it. He's the only one that has set a number in his lawsuit. Her damages are undisclosed. His lawsuit against the New York Times damages undisclosed. TBD in court. OK. And so, but from the beginning, I was like, no more paywall in the New York Times. It easy to down, like it was the easiest lawsuit
Starting point is 00:07:56 I've ever been able to obtain. Interesting. Being from the New York Times, I was like, this is just kind of strange. They published all of the text messages. I was like, this feels very reminiscent of strange. They published all of the text messages. I was like, this feels very reminiscent of Rose McGowan, Harvey Weinstein. And I was like, it just, it feels a little too accessible
Starting point is 00:08:10 for people to just read through, right? Which I believe was the intention. They wanted any Joe Schmo, anybody on TikTok to just download it, read it, take it as fact. Cause most people don't realize anything that you claim in a civil lawsuit doesn't have to be proven until it's actually in court. So you can claim anything.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And then it wasn't an actual lawsuit, it was a CRD complaint. So it was basically a precursor to, why am I blanking on what CRD, civil rights discrimination complaint. And so it's basically a precursor in California to file the lawsuit. And some people are like, oh, it's that, you
Starting point is 00:08:46 know, precursor she's going to file. She's just waiting for approval from the state. So someone could argue this was her quote unquote smear campaign. Correct. Which is what I thought. By just putting this out there. Okay. Which is what I thought from the beginning because I was like, it's not an official lawsuit. You know, the New York Times seems to be really interested in this and they're not presenting anything from his side other than his statement at the end of the article. And so I was like, so right away I just, I have questions. Like there were just a lot of red flags that I didn't buy it right away. And then when he came out with his lawsuit
Starting point is 00:09:15 against the New York Times, I was like, okay, I get it. And then you see like the New York Times contacted him at 10 PM the night before the article dropped and said, you have until noon tomorrow to give us your side. And then they ended up publishing the article two hours earlier than that timeframe that they gave him to respond. So that's part of why he's suing is for promissory fraud, where they told him he had a deadline and then they published it early.
Starting point is 00:09:39 But so then reading his document, we saw more context to the text messages. And I was like, okay, now it makes a little more sense. We're seeing that her team kind of doctored some of the text messages. They edited out an emoji, they re-typed them out in her lawsuit, whereas his lawsuit shows the actual screenshots of the messages.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And then they show that the screenshots have a lot more messages that were omitted in her versions of them. And so I was like, okay, I'm starting to believe him a little bit more. And then when we got his lawsuit against her and Ryan Reynolds, I was like, okay, I'm starting to believe him a little bit more. And then when we got his lawsuit against her and Ryan Reynolds, I was like, oh, I think Ryan Reynolds is maybe has a bigger hand in this than, you know, they want us to believe.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And then you look back at like how he inserted himself into the promotion campaign and how he brought Hugh Jackman to the premiere to like take photos on the step. It was also strange. Since you're on that, let's talk about that because that is something that, you know, I didn't really notice. Yes, did she, you know, wear the Britney Spears dress and she said, I got this Britney Spears dress because I'm just such a fan of hers.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Now we know that actually Justin Baldoni was a huge fan and talked about her incessantly and what she meant to him growing up and everything Coincident whatever the dress looked great. Okay, and then she has her husband who's a huge star and they have four kids So they're like established couple he's wearing and he's on the red carpet. Not weird Yeah, we also know that Justin because there was this conflict by the end of the movie That we don't know if there was conflict while I guess they knew there was conflict conflict by the end of the movie that we don't know if there was conflict while I guess they knew there was conflict because of the cut
Starting point is 00:11:09 yeah so there was conflict at the end of the movie they got Blake's cut is what we saw she was EP and star and he was star and director we didn't get to see his cut so we know he and his family are with the you know well how do you pronounce that really bad water dasina dasina, Dasinina, Dasina? Dasani? They're there with all the Dasani crates in the room. In the basement. In the basement.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And yes, and I also noticed that, you know, he was, I saw a clip of somebody where he is interviewing the other guy that played her high school role once. We see him, he's the chef at the restaurant. And he's interviewing him about the movie, which I thought was weird. And I'll be honest, again, full disclosure,
Starting point is 00:11:56 I have never seen Deadpool. I remember Ryan Reynolds from The Proposal, which was a dumb dry bar movie, and I didn't find him particularly funny or whatever, cute, whatever. But now he's seen as this hilarious comedic actor. And I feel like he's really believes that. And as a comedian, there's something,
Starting point is 00:12:17 I don't think there's anything more awkward or dangerous than when people, especially women even, think that they're really funny and they're not and it's not landing. And that is Blake because she's hanging out with him and now he thinks he's funny but he's kind of one note. He kind of does this like thing. And so he goes, what is this? And he shows this photo of I believe it's the other actor, the other guy's ass, but it could have been Justin. No, it wasn't Justin's ass. It was the, um, the other love interest guy.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And he goes, look at your ass. Like, are there pumpkins in there? What is that about? Well then in, in doing this, this other girl, oh, this was Candace's. Okay. This was Candace. Oh, and is now left the political sphere and is hopping off on our, get off our job, girl. Anyway, she said, you know, of course,
Starting point is 00:13:09 Justin Baldoni has an incredible body, okay? And he's just gorgeous. Can we just, you know? And so he, somebody pulled this up and she probably gave it to her. Maybe she did it herself. He's doing squats and his ass is incredible. At the time of this reel that Justin Valdoni
Starting point is 00:13:27 posted himself doing squats, Blake commented 103 weeks ago, okay, so two years ago, when they're filming the movie, amazing, now try it pregnant, meaning that she, at one time was pregnant having to do that. So the jealousy that I believe we all know that like Ryan is having over Justin and whatever he interpreted this friendship relationship flirting shit to be is why he then inserted himself and I think got in her head to make her feel, you know, to be like, I'm going to help you make this funny. I'm going to help you make
Starting point is 00:14:12 it great. When it shouldn't even have been funny. Like, like here he is with the Hugh Jackman, right? Oh, no, just this just happened recently. He just went to Hugh Jackman's one man show trying to like, or just he would have gone anyway, but he's not canceling, which I can't disagree with. Yeah. But I mean, just all of the promotion that he was doing, I mean, because everyone talks about like her tone deaf
Starting point is 00:14:36 promotion, right? Her hair care, her wearing Britney's dress. His liquor. His liquor, her canned cocktails that she was promoting as well. But when you think about it, the film was not a comedy. So for him to be doing comedic skits was just weird. And it's like, I don't know why we didn't touch
Starting point is 00:14:55 on the tone deafness of his promotion by sitting down the other actor and interrogating the love interest of his wife. It was all so strange. Did you see what TJ Miller came out and talked about? No, tell me that TJ Miller worked on Deadpool one and two with Ryan Rennel. I know him Yep and so he had a character in Deadpool and he said that what Ryan Reynolds would do is he would improv a lot of his
Starting point is 00:15:18 lines and so he said that he will never work with Ryan Reynolds again because I guess there was a moment where they were filming a scene and Ryan wanted to reshoot it and ad lib. And he was, he basically was making comments at TJ's character, but TJ's like, it felt like he was making jabs at me directly. Like he wanted to berate me in front of everybody else, because the lines didn't make any sense for the movie about kind of how I'm the star as Deadpool is the star and you
Starting point is 00:15:45 you know we just bring you in for the exposition right and I think TJ Miller being a comedian and maybe you can relate to this like when you're on set and you're naturally or you have more of a skill set for delivering jokes and being funny organically versus somebody like Ryan Reynolds who kind of you know thinks he's funnier than he is, when a comedian comes on set and they deliver jokes naturally that are landing a lot better than you are, it does hit your ego because you think you're the star and you're supposed to be the funny one. So I can understand why he would kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:14 want to put TJ down to remind him, like, I'm the star of the movie, and you're just like, you know, the sidekick. I don't know if you can answer this, but with timeline, we've all now seen the infamous scene from Deadpool where Ryan Reynolds is playing another character called Nice Pool. He has a half man bun, like a half up, half bun, half down character that is obviously making fun of Justin. Now we see it.
Starting point is 00:16:44 He has a podcast about feminism. that is obviously making fun of Justin. Now we see it. He has a podcast about feminism. He talks about his wife, Night's Pool, and saying inappropriate things like, oh, you wouldn't even know that she had a baby. And then there was even more stuff that I guess was cut out that was directly like bullying to him. So do you know when was that like filmed
Starting point is 00:17:02 in relation to them filming It Ends With Us? Yeah, so I believe production for Deadpool and Wolverine began before It Ends With Us, but production went until the end of January 2024, which was like a couple weeks before It Ends With Us wrapped. So production was happening at the same time that they were filming both movies. So most likely it was like he was hot on the frustration, was like, oh, let's make fun of this fucker. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So there were a number of things in Nice Pull. So there was the feminist comment, the man bun, the podcast. At one point, Nice Pull screams out for the intimacy coordinator. We see that Nice Pull gets taken out by Lady Pull in front of a flower shop, and obviously it ends with us surrounds a flower shop
Starting point is 00:17:45 There's something with the dog and people think that the dog was supposed to symbolize like the movie that that Ryan Reynolds was taking from Justin Bell Donnie and then there's another strange piece that people weren't picking up on that. I thought was really weird there's a clip and it's in where he talks about having a podcast and being a feminist and They keep showing a wide shot and they show show that Nice Pull kind of has his bulge very visible, like he's trying to flex on it, right? Like he's trying to show it off. And then Wolverine at one point looks down and he's like, look up here, my eyes are up here.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And so I was like, is there something, like is he saying that Justin Baldoni was trying to flex his big dick on the set because he's just walking around with it out and now Ryan Reynolds is like insecure? Because why would you, if you're poking fun at Baldoni and this character is supposed to emulate Baldoni, like why do you have his bulge on display
Starting point is 00:18:34 and like do a closeup of it and have Wolverine acknowledge it if you weren't trying to like make a statement about it? Do you have knowledge of how old Justin Baldoni is? Ryan Reynolds is 48. Yeah. And Blake is 37, which the character was 21 in the book. Yeah, it was weird. I noticed that.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And which I, in watching it, I was like, how does this girl, we never hear about how she was able to get like New York, they're in New York, right? Or in Boston? New York. OK. During the movie, she gets this huge retail space. Yeah. And we never hear how she got the money for it.
Starting point is 00:19:11 My sister goes, well, maybe she inherited it when the dad died, I don't know, but that never got discussed. But you know, she's dressing absolutely horribly. And now we know that she has a lot of notes about, I think she'd have a beanie, and somebody said that she didn't read the book, maybe she thought she was homeless.
Starting point is 00:19:28 She didn't read the book. Well, no, but she thought for her character to wear $5,000 Louboutin shoes. So those boots, those crystal boots that she wears at the party of his sisters having a party, who now works with the girl who plays who is played by Jenny Slate. And she's wearing these crystal boots that are, Yves Saint Laurent, I remember I looked into them,
Starting point is 00:19:52 because when I did, name that tune, Jane, the host of the show, had them on. And I was like, oh my God, I want those boots. And then when her assistant told me what they were and I looked them up, I'm like, no, but I did find a dupe. I found a dupe for like 152. But the point is she, you know, those are expensive.
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Starting point is 00:23:00 or purchase your pendant today. But let's talk about these outfits. A lot of people have done this. This was coming from a creator on TikTok. What is her name? HV181Mike. Well, I mean, sorry, girl. Like this, you just come up with like Jenny Jones.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, come up with an easy name. Anyway, so like, okay. So she put all the outfits together. You can put all the outfits. I don't really remember remembering how horrible the outfits were when I was watching just because I thought the movie was weird and lame. And so it's this double pant thing.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And I'm like, what are these outfits? There's the overalls, these tan overalls that someone said were actually Ryan's. She's wearing two different kinds of camouflage out. She's wearing this quilted jacket that's like a patchwork like a grandma would wear. Just the most unflattering, the beanie. She always had this wild hair.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And then the rooftop scene, she's wearing this jean, onesie jumpsuit, like you work at- Michael Myers. Michael Myers and you work at Jiffy Lube. Okay, so what's interesting about the rooftop scene is this is the scene that Taylor Swift and Ryan, her two dragons, helped her write in which she writes back to Justin,
Starting point is 00:24:18 my favorite part about a conversation is that you don't think you're funny. We are, you are going to kill it, meaning that he probably was like, I don't know about this being, you know. I remember watching that scene a couple months ago before the lawsuits and I was like, what is this? So she walks out on the rooftop, sees this hot guy
Starting point is 00:24:38 who's upset because he reveals I'm a neurosurgeon, whatever, and I lost a child or whatever on the table. But when he says he's a neurosurgeon, she's like... And he's like, what? She's like, oh, oh my God, you are. And he's like, have we met before? She's like, being that I haven't needed brain surgery, I don't think so. But you're really a neurosurgeon?
Starting point is 00:25:02 I thought you were a crypto guy. Like it's literally Ryan Reynolds writing his Deadpool stuff for her makes no sense. And she's laughing and she's in this outfit that's not flattering and not cute. Now here's where my theory comes in. And I'm kind of joking, but I'm kind of not. Okay. Okay. Cause I'm obsessed with how bad the fashion is and I'm obsessed with people with fashion and I remember fashion.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'm also a female standup comedian. This look, every female comic that is touring and big and had specials wore this look while they were filming this movie. Hence the evidence is coming. Okay, make sure we feature this. Here is Whitney Cummings two years ago. Here is Chelsea Handler in her special,
Starting point is 00:25:53 wearing a white version of it. Here is Chris Della wearing the jean version of it, okay? Here is Angela Johnson also wearing the jean version of it. Here is Becky Robinson wearing the same white version that Chelsea wore. And here is Mike Myers. So I am telling you, it was like this is this is the funny girl. I mean I literally said this like when it was happening I was like why is this the stand-up females uniform? Like why is every girl wearing it? Well, I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Cause it's, you only have to pack one piece and you're traveling and it looks kind of cool. Sometimes it gives you a waist. Sometimes it doesn't, depends which one you get. I get why people chose it as a woman. Cause I hate every outfit that I have ever chosen. Every time I think I like an outfit, I watch back the video and I go,
Starting point is 00:26:43 fuck that didn't look as good as I thought. So I get why it's so hard, but I'm telling you, in trying to be funny, I think she saw some of them wearing this and chose that particular thing. It's a stretch, but it's my take. Well, you have to think, where did she get her headset, like her head space to put together some of these outfits
Starting point is 00:27:03 because they're so bad. They're horrible. And everyone's like, it's obvious she didn't read the book by looking at these outfits, because they're just, they're so wacky and just so ugly. And like, I don't know, I don't see a girl that puts together flowers wearing these wacky outfits. It just, it was all very bizarre to me.
Starting point is 00:27:24 So a lot of people are saying- Her hair looks horrible. That's a terrible promotion for her hair. Caroline, even when she was doing the It Ends With Us promo, her hair never looked good. No, it always looked frizzy. I don't know if that was her own hair and they dyed it red.
Starting point is 00:27:38 People think it's a wig. I think it was her own hair dyed red. I think it's her own hair dyed red. And let's make her intro. I feel like she wanted so much because she talks in circles and she doesn't say anything and she wants so badly to be like, so excited about this role that she was like,
Starting point is 00:27:54 I want it to be completely different from me. So she's an artist. So let's give her these weird like blossom 1990s, weird clothes. Let's give her this different, let's give her red hair, which I'm like, okay, a 35 or whatever he is, 40 year old neurosurgeon, Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:13 would, but forget about the book, wouldn't have been interested in someone that is looking and walking, like it's so strange. So then, so in all of her interviews, she tries to be funny. Sometimes she insults an interview and doing it. But she tries to be funny and it just never lands. And it's always like the interviewer's trying
Starting point is 00:28:30 to get to the question and she's always like, oh, but like, it's painful to watch now. And a lot of it is post being with Ryan. And you do kind of become your spouse and you do with Pat. So again, I think she thinks she's funny, just like he thinks he's funnier than he is. Well, because that's their shit too, is they like to play up that we're this funny couple
Starting point is 00:28:52 and we take jabs at each other on Twitter and like we troll each other in interviews in like a cheeky, funny way and people are like, oh my God, I'm obsessed with their relationship because they're just like so, you know. Relationship goals. Yeah, yeah, that was like a thing for a couple of years. I mean, I think it's a mix of being with Ryan,
Starting point is 00:29:08 but also coming off of Gossip Girl and thinking that like she's the star. Right, oh, speaking of which, so there is a nut. So I always love it when someone comes out from someone's past and is like, I worked in craft services. Yeah, the intern? The TikTok intern?
Starting point is 00:29:23 This girl goes on TikTok and she goes, I was dating the craft service guy and I was a stand-in on Gossip Girl and Blake Lively used to burp and fart on set. I didn't hear this one. I heard a different TikTok intern. She goes, I used to burp and fart on set. And then she knew I was dating the craft service guys
Starting point is 00:29:45 and would hug on him and be like, oh, the food's so good. I'm like, first of all, I've heard so many things that she doesn't talk to anybody that she doesn't look people in the eye. Now you're saying she was actually complimentary and friendly and it's because she knew that the craft service guy was dating a stand-in
Starting point is 00:30:03 that wasn't even her stand-in. I'm like, that's where I'm like, look, we can all pile on Blake, but like sometimes I don't, you know, imagine you're the star of the show, you have to memorize all your lines, you're doing all this stuff, and you have to also worry that 10 years from now,
Starting point is 00:30:17 someone is gonna say you accidentally didn't hold the door for them or something like, just enough. So that I kind of thought was, but the farting and burping were good. But she also said which we've seen this happen in Hollywood left a lot. She left for like her summer break while she was dating Leonardo Dicaprio and she came back like annoyed that she was still on contract for this stupid TV show that made her famous. And that I can say I have witnessed and I have heard a lot about.
Starting point is 00:30:49 That by the sixth or seventh year of something, you know who also got a lot of shit for that was the girl that was fresh off the boat. The star of Fresh Off the Boat. Oh yeah, and she went to do Crazy Rich Asians, right? Yeah, and then when she came back, she posted something like, I don't know, it was was like a tweeter saying disappointed that the show was coming back or something and she literally was canceled and was like on on suicide
Starting point is 00:31:12 watch because she expressed her feelings at the time which she shouldn't have which wasn't I'm not grateful the show and I want 80 people to lose their job it was just like oh shit like I didn't think it was coming back. Yeah. I thought I had these other opportunities that I could do and I'm actually not able to do them, which you share with your spouse or your best friend. Yeah. You don't post about it.
Starting point is 00:31:37 You don't post about it. You know, like you were like, fuck, like I know, like, you know, when you're like, it's an embarrassment of riches, but yeah, you know, first world problems, but you can say that, but you don't say it. So I feel like that's true. Oh, the Bethany Frankel of it all. So Bethany Frankel is like, oh my God, you guys, I just remembered that I went to the premiere.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Everybody remembers their stories from 10 years ago. Yes, including the same stand-in in Bethany Frankel, okay? So Bethany goes on to say that she went to the premiere and it was so weird because between the red carpet and the movie, there was an hour break. That is completely normal. Yeah, that's normal.
Starting point is 00:32:16 That is completely normal. It's the cocktail hour. And then she goes, so then we went and got these margaritas and then came back because I wanted to see the movie because it's frowned upon if you don't stay for the movie. Well, listen, I have been going to premieres for a long time.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I've gone to a lot of kid ones. I used to get invited to a ton. I'd see Garcella and her sons. We'd see, we're like, hey, we'd always take our boys to all the kid ones. And I went to other good ones too. I always stayed for the movie because I wanted to. And also I felt that you had to. Once I realized that 90% of the people doing the red carpet,
Starting point is 00:32:50 even the people in the movie, don't stay. It's not a no-no. It is totally okay. There's nobody checking. There's nobody looking in the dark, being like, this person wasn't there. So you can leave and still go to the after party. I usually stayed because I was like, well, then can leave and still go to the after party. I usually stayed because I was like, well, then we're going to go to the after party.
Starting point is 00:33:07 But there's been times where I'm like, fuck, we're an hour from home. It's a school night. But I still stayed for the movie. So anyway, she says, so I go back from getting my margaritas and I could just tell the vibe in the theater was off between Justin's camp and Blake Lively's camp. And for that reason, my assistant and I left.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I was like, that's a stretch, girl. It was a bit of a stretch, because she's just like, to her, I was like, ever since I walked in, the vibes were just off. I was on the red carpet and I could just sense that it was just not good energy. And then she's like, once the started I just I couldn't stay there anymore
Starting point is 00:33:46 So we left like you could feel the vibes in a dark movie Yeah, and she's like I didn't say this because I didn't want to get canceled for leaving early I'm like people leave early all the time like you go you do your photo op you make sure you have a little content to Post on Instagram to show that you were there And then at this point you don't need to stay for the whole thing anymore because listen You know if you don't have anything to do with the movie, or if it's not like you're a really good friend of it, it's a long fucking night.
Starting point is 00:34:11 You start getting ready at three o'clock, you get there at six, and if you're not at the movie, you have to be at the beginning of the red carpet. Otherwise, they won't even take your photo. So you're like the first to arrive, so yeah, there is well, well over an hour between a non-person in the movie taking a photo and the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Then the only food that's provided is the free popcorn. So yeah, you do get a little hungry. So you get it. So a lot of people go and then maybe they go to the after party, but maybe they're like, I don't need a free slider either. Like, and they're happy to have you on the carpet.
Starting point is 00:34:46 The reason they invited is you're going to help promote the movie. It's fine if you're not in your seat. They don't care. Yeah, they don't care. Nobody's paying attention to what's going on in the room, or even the movie, as long as you're there to get your photo up and you can promote the movie.
Starting point is 00:34:58 That's all they care about. The amount of times that I've stayed for the movie and then seen somebody that's worked on it or something, and they're like, Heather, what are you doing here? Yeah. I'm like, oh, I'm just the loser that got the invite, got an outfit, and ate an entire thing of popcorn because I'm starving, and now I'm waiting for the free slider, and thanks for making me feel
Starting point is 00:35:17 like a full fucking thirsty loser. But it's true, I mean, the movie part is the least important part of it all. Unless you're like a critic that has to write about it but then you're not walking the red carpet. Right, exactly, okay so we go through the horrible outfits and my theory of her wanting to be a female stand-up comic from 2022 and now everything's coming out so remember,
Starting point is 00:35:49 she was in the town, which this was interesting, because the role that she went out for, where she was like this fucked up girl that had a drug problem, who's had a child, but dated Ben Affleck, but I don't believe the child was his, and he was like, get away from me. She was 21, but the role was written for someone who was 37. Yeah. And I was like- Well, similar to like this, wasn't Lily supposed to be 21
Starting point is 00:36:14 and she's 37? Yeah, I just thought it was, and then he said, in an interview, Ben Affleck, now at this time, he's married to Jennifer Garner, okay? And there's rumors about them having something happen. And which wouldn't be surprising. We know he slept with a nanny. Okay, what's this, like, he slept with a girl
Starting point is 00:36:32 who was like the head executive at SNL for three years where they met at the W Hotel like all the time. And so whatever, you know? So he's doing an interview and he's like, you know, well I'm 40, but you know, Blake he's doing an interview and he's like, you know, well, I'm 40, but you know, Blake, who's great, is in the movie and she's only 21. And somehow she saw a photo of myself and Matt Damon and she's like, how do you know Jason Bourne or whatever?
Starting point is 00:37:00 And he was like, oh my God. And I realized how young she is. She doesn't know like the history of us friendship and writing, you know, goodwill hunting and everything. So he's like, but my god, and I realized how young she is. She doesn't know the history of us friendship and writing, good will hunting and everything. So he's like, but she wanted to learn about Boston. She wasn't from there, so we would take late night drives around Boston so he could go, this is where the townies live
Starting point is 00:37:15 and this is where the Dunkin' Donuts is and whatever. Just showing her around. Just showing her around, which I'm sure Jennifer Garner and the three kids were like, oh, I'm so glad you're teaching her how to be Bostonian. She's 21, so she needs a little culture. Yeah. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:30 But in the earlier interviews, she definitely comes off more humble and more likable. I will say that. She does come from acting family. Her parents taught acting classes. She's the youngest of five. But there's something, there's something that she's not so humble where she's like,
Starting point is 00:37:47 you know, a really cringey one. Did you see the really cringey one where she talked about putting on a bunch of bronzer? Oh yeah, with Justin Long? Is asking her and she goes, my friend is free, no job. And she's like, oh my friends and I, we really liked this guy so we were stalking him
Starting point is 00:38:04 and so he wouldn't notice us She dressed like emo, and I wore all this bronzer and put on like a big afro Yeah So that she could look like a black girl, and she didn't she said that she was trying to intentionally Emulate a black woman it was yeah people people have been sharing that clip a lot. Like so worried about my sister. You're engaged. You cannot marry a murderer.
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Starting point is 00:40:05 or wherever you're listening right now. Well, of course, the plantation wedding too. The plantation wedding. They got married at a plantation. I never acknowledged it. I mean. With that, okay, with that, if you didn't read the book,
Starting point is 00:40:23 I don't think you asked, and I'm not giving her any grace for this, but I don't think you asked your wedding planner for your $1 million wedding, what is the history of this land? My son goes to University of Oregon, and when we went on the tours of University of Oregon and Oregon State, every tour,
Starting point is 00:40:43 whether it was a smaller for engineering department or whatever, the kids would come out and they'd be like, first we wanna acknowledge that this land belongs to the whatever Indians, we stole it from them, like just kind of bums you out, you know? And you're like, so if there are any questions about the Indians that who really this land belongs to, and we're like, oh, okay, go ducks.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Like it just feels like a little. And so I'm saying eight years ago, I don't know that we were in that space to say, I need to, if we are in Georgia, I need to ask the history of this land. I mean, I even think like the resurfaced video of her and Justin, like even that, I'm kind of like, I haven't paid much attention to that or the plantation wedding. So I'm like even that, I'm kind of like, I haven't paid much attention
Starting point is 00:41:25 to that or the plantation wedding, so I'm like, that was different times. She was young, she was stupid. I'm not saying that it's, I'm not excusing it by any means, but it's just, you know, I think there's enough bad behavior that we can judge her for today that we don't need to keep dragging things
Starting point is 00:41:40 from 15 years ago. Right, and also if you did then do a big apology that you got married there, then you're also drawing attention to it and then there can be 12 more articles written about it where you might just go, yikes, whatever. We're married with kids, like I'm not gonna, whatever. I mean, it's like.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Well, I feel like her press didn't start to get bad until Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. That's when you- That was a long time ago though. Yeah, but that's when they started saying that there were rumors between her and America Ferrera that they didn't like each other. And then some of their interview bits together.
Starting point is 00:42:10 There's like one where America Ferrera like rolls her eyes at what Blake's talking about. So I feel like that was like the era that was like her first real big movie. I think she thought she was the star of the movie because she was on Gossip Girl. And then that's when we had the TikTok intern who's like, I remember I used to work at Fuse TV
Starting point is 00:42:26 and they came in to do an interview and Blake Lively got me fired because I guess Blake felt like she was acting too much like a fan, so she had them remove her from the set. And the girl was like 19 and went like crying. I was just like, I went home crying on the train cause I lost my job. Cause Blake Lively thought that I was acting
Starting point is 00:42:42 like too much of a fan around her. And so she had me fired. Yeah, well, I stood up for her, like I said, you know, a month or two ago, and actually I cut it out of the show, because I felt it was too, not that juicy, but it was because I saw this interview of a hairdresser, this guy, he wrote a book about his life,
Starting point is 00:43:02 he's a famous hairdresser, and like he was Kate Blanchett's, like an Oscar winning type of person that really does hair for movies. And in all of his interviews, the ones that were going viral before the lawsuit, but post the movie coming out, this is all within like the last three months, was that Kate Blanchett's like his best friend
Starting point is 00:43:21 and she's so wonderful. And Blake Lively is not and neither is Who's the devil or his product girl and Hathaway? Yes, and neither is Anne Hathaway And so he he was giving very detailed stories about Blake and I was like I don't think these stories are fair like it was like she didn't ask about my daughter And then she had this a Easter It was like she didn't ask about my daughter, and then she had this Easter event and invited all the crew to come,
Starting point is 00:43:47 but she was running around trying to finish these pastries and there was food out, but she wasn't offering it. I'm like, that's a young girl that just wasn't equipped to be a hostess, but at least she invited you. Like, I was kind of like, and I was like, also, some people, some of the reasons I do my own hair and makeup a lot, even though I get great people
Starting point is 00:44:05 that offer, is because I end up talking so much to the people and I need to be more in my head. So sometimes people getting that done are just quiet. And it doesn't mean that they don't respect what you were doing. So it's kind of like, at that time I was Team Blake. And I was also like, why is this going viral? But it was already people were interested
Starting point is 00:44:28 because there was already so much out there that was not flattering to her being a nice person. Yeah, that's why even when the New York Times article came out and she was alleging a smear campaign, I understood the groundwork that they were trying to put out there, but I was also like, but I remember watching that unfold and covering it as the premiere was happening and as they were doing promotion. I mean, but I was also like, but I remember watching that unfold and covering it as the premiere was happening
Starting point is 00:44:46 and as they were doing promotion, being like, it's more of her own bad behavior that people will know what it was, it was the interviewer that told her about the little bump. She's the one that came out and did a YouTube video and she's like, this is the worst interview I've ever done because Blake Lively was so rude to me. And that's what went viral.
Starting point is 00:45:01 And then that's when everybody else started going on TikTok and pulling all of her old interviews. And then that's the moment else started going on TikTok and pulling all of her old interviews. And then that's the moment that really took off. So she's the one that did the smear campaign. But also when I was team, not team Blake, but feeling for Blake. I'll say feeling for Blake. I wondered, was that,
Starting point is 00:45:20 why that interview and why that girl chose to share it at that time. I was a little suspect, not like she got paid, but like, was there somebody, was somebody doing research and found it and was like, hey, we just saw this, you know what, this is the kind of stuff you should share. Like if he had a team that he was not instructing,
Starting point is 00:45:43 but they like went and saw this and was, and they were looking for stuff to show that she's a bitch. Could they have gone to the interview and been like, you should put this out. I don't think it was out. I think that was a piece of the interview that never got released. And she's like, I was uncomfortable with this.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And now that we're starting to see her, you know, her interviews about like, go get your friends and wear your florals. And she's like, like she's coming off tone deaf. She's like, here's the interview. This is the clip that I didn't want to release because I was so hurt by it because I guess she's had fertility issues.
Starting point is 00:46:12 So for Blake to poke her little bump and being pregnant, it was just really sensitive for me at that time. The defense of that, okay, is at that time, and I remember this, there was a big movement among actresses to call out Reporters and stuff about why do you say what you're wearing? Versus yeah, tell me about your role like on an Oscar They never asked the guys what they're wearing
Starting point is 00:46:36 So and you should call them out on it when it comes to stuff like that or pregnancy or you know men Like people don't go over asking men about their kids or whatever. So it was, some people feel like that's what she was doing, not to be mean to the interviewer, but to get people in the mode of like, don't ask that. Yeah. So, but still, done wrong and done not nicely. And at that time too, with tabloid culture,
Starting point is 00:47:01 anytime an actress had a little bit of a belly, whether it was Chipotle or not, it was automatically the headline of, she's pregnant, Jennifer Aniston expected, but like that was just kind of like the thing. And I remember that there was pushback against that. But I mean, the only pushback that I have to that argument is she was very obviously pregnant, and she was, I think, like well along. And like it was no, she had already come out and, like, revealed her pregnancy, so... Okay, so now here I'm gonna go hardcore. Okay, but there's another part of the movie
Starting point is 00:47:31 that's not a clip that I rubbered being so weird is Justin Baldoni with his perfect face and teeth goes to her, I like you. And she goes, what are you, five? Like, all these weird things to be funny, it just made no... like, it just made no sense, you know? But I felt like when they did kiss and stuff,
Starting point is 00:47:52 I did feel like they had chemistry. They 100% had chemistry. So the next thing is, you know, which we've been saying, did Ryan think that she caught feelings and in order for her to placate him, she involved him and more and more and more where he was on set and she just was like, just oh my God, don't poke the bear.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Like, now is this woman that's in a marriage, every marriage is different, every dynamic is different. And you know, people, listen, when people say how do you stay married so long as a woman? It's putting up with a lot of shit. It's not letting things bother you. It's like, so it's like, I don't know, maybe she was like, okay, or she's just like my
Starting point is 00:48:33 husband. Oh my God, he's so great. He's so wonderful. She's always promoting the gin and all this stuff. So so now, Candice Owen comes out saying a very good source, a very good source now tells me that Ryan Reynolds is, you know, like this overbearing type of husband to her and not that she's innocent and not that she's being abused, but could she be legally abused? Like did he decide to put out this lawsuit, and she didn't really think it through,
Starting point is 00:49:05 and it was going out, and now they're trying to do a gag order saying you can't put out the website with all the extra footage of Wayfair and everything. Don't release the evidence. Yeah. We're innocent, but don't release the evidence. Right. Even though we started this in the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Right, so now they're like, holy shit, and I can't imagine the fights that are happening between Ryan and Blake, because Blake might have been been like fuck. I never even wanted this weirdo Like now you've ruined my life now everyone thinks I'm a bitch. I'll never work again. So here's my theory. Yeah Just like it came out last week that allegedly Megan Markle's people were shopping a book of what, how much would a book go for post divorce? This is a good theory.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Post divorce. And people were like, well, no, they would never get divorced. No, it's not him. He's this dumb prince that wanted to do a podcast where he thought he could interview Putin and Donald Trump and say, you're a sociopath and I'm not, why is that? And think that they would do the podcast with him. He has no ideas. He's not
Starting point is 00:50:10 a creative person. The shine is worn off. And I'm not saying she's going to get divorced, but she was probably like, I'm thinking about it. If I can get $10 million and I know I've got a safety net, yeah, I'll tell you why we broke up, if I choose to do that. She's already been divorced. Her parents were divorced. I'm just saying, it's not like she was raised in this house that divorce is not an option. Okay? So that's her- Yeah, no. She was raised in the capitalistic house where her dad was selling paparazzi photos before the wedding. Right. And then, yeah, she had the other sister, the pushing princess-
Starting point is 00:50:44 Oh, yeah, she had the the the other sister the push So I'm like she we know she's manipulative she acted like she never didn't know who Prince Harry was and she was like Is he kind and you know meanwhile her rooming called said she had every book on Princess Diana and was obsessed Yeah, so kind of like we know that you know Blake Was you know supposedly just friends on Green Lantern while he was married to Scarlett Johansson. Now we know that Scarlett Johansson has, is doing a directorial debut in which
Starting point is 00:51:14 Justin Valdoni is her EP, and all this kind of stuff of like, can you imagine the two of them talking? Like, when you're like former boyfriend or former best friend, if some shit goes down, the excitement that you get to call that other person and be like, whoa, let's fucking talk. Like so glad this is happening.
Starting point is 00:51:35 So what I think is the source that's putting this narrative after, which by the way, it wasn't Candace narrative. We've all said it's kind of a controlling husband that probably pushed for this and didn't really see how big it would get. And like you said, thinking it would just be like a Weinstein kind of thing
Starting point is 00:51:58 and oh, that will crush him, it will get him done, he'll never work again. And we're so powerful with my big $500 million billion thing of Deadpool. And I think that someone in her camp is like, put it out there, that I am essentially the innocent in this. I am the woman that has four kids, which is a lot nowadays, four kids close in
Starting point is 00:52:28 age with this guy, this powerful movie star who is 11 years older than I am. And he pushed for this and essentially Candace says it's legal abuse. And because she's thinking in her head, if this doesn't last and I divorce Ryan, this can be the narrative. I never wanted to do this lawsuit. I never wanted this. He was in a jealous rage. Yeah, I actually agree with that. I think to your point, I think she was placating him.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And I think she was probably just like, I'm sure he's, I mean, I'm sure he saw the text message. She's writing paragraphs and paragraphs about how amazing Justin Baldoni is and they killed it at the scene today and whatever. And they're laughing all night and he comes over and he's sitting with her baby. If you are really afraid of somebody,
Starting point is 00:53:15 you don't need, you might need to work. You might need to finish the movie. You're not taking photos of him holding your baby. But you don't need them to come in your home. And sending them paragraphs and paragraphs. And do you imagine if he was jealous and saw the guy that she's making out with and texting until two in the morning,
Starting point is 00:53:31 holding his baby like stepdaddy to be? I'm sure he has access to her AirDrop and saw. He was on the kid's iPad, which has the iCloud shareables. And that's where he, she doesn't even know that he's been reading her text for the last 10 years on the oldest child's iPad. And I'm pretty sure she was just like, he's the one that's into me, like I don't even like him.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Like these are all the things that he said. I'm sure she sold him the story that Baldoni was pursuing her and she wasn't interested in him just to kind of get him off the trail and like shut up It's not like he's the one that's coming on to me I don't even like him and then I think that's where Ryan Reynolds then was like, oh well then he built this whole case against Justin Baldoni because I think Blake not thinking that this would turn as big as it was but just to kind of like ease him And to be like I'm not interested in him
Starting point is 00:54:23 I think she was probably like maybe exaggerating some of the details that we're now reading in this complaint because she told Ryan and now he's like, we're dragging this out. So I have said my prediction, which is this will settle. Yeah, there's no way this goes to trial. I don't know what they're gonna give them, but they have a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:54:41 So we'll never know, but I could see them in the next week being like, all right, here's 10 million. It goes up to 50. They settled at like 45 million. And I want an apology or something. And they're like, you know what? We wanna just do art, leave us alone.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And then they go away for a little bit and people forget, just like people forget that Hilaria acted like she was Spanish and acted like she lived in Spain her whole life. People forget, they have a series, and now she's got a book. Like, I'm a mom with a bunch of kids. That's what she should have done after it ends with us, right? She got the bad publicity.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Do the Anne Hathaway thing, go dead for a year or two. Not even two years, one year. Army Hammer already has another job. Exactly, oh my God. The cancel time is so short, you guys. I want Armie Hammer on my podcast. Yeah. I just, he can eat a rib.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I'll give him a little nibble. But like, it's true, and we were done with this by the time the lawsuit came. That's why when I first got the, when somebody sent me the New York Times article, I was like, this is so uninteresting to me. And then when I read through it, I was like, oh, this is, this is juicy.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah, so they said, you know, we won't be bullied. The wife, they, you know, said happy birthday. It was his birthday. They're like big statement. And the mom did too. And the mom just said happy birthday and like, you're great. Yeah, but she used the photos from the set of Jane the Virgin and talked about what a great
Starting point is 00:56:06 environment that was because all the cast got along and they were all, so she kind of threw a little dig in there too. Yeah, but I mean come on, it's your son like going through this and he probably had, he had the worst week and a half of his life until he got it together and now he's like, yeah, I'm vindicated.
Starting point is 00:56:25 It's like, you know, there is something great. I don't think there, like what smoking gun could she possibly have that would even exonerate her at this point? Okay, so now let's talk about Nick Viall. Oh God. Nick Viall has a podcast and I am very friendly with him. I like him.
Starting point is 00:56:41 He's been on mine, I've been on his. And I've been watching the clips and he, from the beginning, was very Blake, pro-Blake. And dissed Justin, he said he was on my podcast and I didn't care for him, or something like that. Because he meditated in front of me and I thought that was weird. Okay. And so then he also said, you know, Ryan,
Starting point is 00:57:04 he's like, then the other thing he said was Justin Baldoni, he was, you know, it was his production company Wayfarer who did it. So if the movie was successful, which it was, he already made a lot of money on it. So, you know, like what, I don't know what the point of that was, but just to say that he made a lot of money on it. And I'm like, that's such an interesting point no one's brought up. So then people are like, well, Ryan Reynolds is a spokesperson who owns Mint Mobile.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And Mint Mobile does a lot of podcast ads. I think I've had it too at one point. And so people notice Nick Vile does. But I also think they might actually be friendly to an extent. They've hung out. I know they follow each other on social media. The Mint Mobile thing, I think people think
Starting point is 00:57:57 that that's like a bigger smoking gun than it actually is. But I mean, you know how podcast deals work. We're not personally on the phone with Mint Mobile saying, hey, this is how much I want. There's usually a broker, an ad agency, somebody else that's negotiating those deals and like, these are the sponsor. I mean, I approve any brand that comes in,
Starting point is 00:58:14 but we're not personally talking. So he's not on the phone with Ryan Reynolds, who's signing the check to Nick Vial personally. That is like a totally different separate situation. But I think in doing it, yeah, you can have an opinion. You can see all the different sides. And I think at the time he, you know, was, is siding, you know, with Ryan and Blake.
Starting point is 00:58:40 And like, yes, they were at a party and they took a photo. This also doesn't mean anything. This is from Shannon Hill News. Yeah. But are they friendly? Sure. You and I are friends with people that we talk about. And sometimes when we personally know them
Starting point is 00:58:52 and they're in the news, we do it a little bit with kick gloves. Other times we're like, we don't care. And other times we don't do the story at all. I think Teddy. Like there's times where I'm like, I am not touching the story because I really. The horse trainer.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yes. And that got me. Well, I think not touching the story because I really... The horse trainer. Yes. And that got me... Well, I think because of the last time I was on this show, Teddy stopped texting me because we talked about it. I was like, you know what? I tried to protect you for so long and you can't win. But yeah, she stopped answering my texts. Oh, Teddy and the horse trainer.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Yeah, because we talked about the horse trainer last time. Yeah, well, you know, she, so, but yeah, of course then you want that story to go away. But you know, if I was really good friends with somebody and they're like, hey, can you not cover this? Cause I can't even take it. Yeah. Then, then I, you know, then I wouldn't,
Starting point is 00:59:38 but like I can understand why other people are like, I'm sorry, but I'm, I'm going to do, my people are asking and I'm going to but I'm going to do, my people are asking and I'm gonna give my opinion. I get both sides. So, but you hope that like, if someone's your personal friend and there's controversy, that they would do it a little in kick-gluds or at least hear your side. So it's possible, depending on their friendship,
Starting point is 00:59:58 that he did hear like the Ryan side of it. And that did, or somebody gave him the information of like, here's a couple things that no one's bringing up. The fact that obviously it was a profitable film. The whole other thing is, is this all about, and maybe you know this, because I don't know the answer. There is a sequel. So Justin Baldoni has the rights to the sequel.
Starting point is 01:00:20 And so Colleen Hoover, who wrote the books, she gave him the rights to the first two movies. They've had a five-year relationship. And I guess over the years, or since the film began filming, I guess she's gotten closer to Blake Lively. And so I've heard different theories about like, well, maybe there's some sort of morality clause
Starting point is 01:00:40 and he has to forfeit the rights if he is in breach of that. And so- Oh, so that would be the goal too. Yeah, and that would be possibly why, like, Colleen aligned herself with Ryan and Blake because maybe they wanted to, you know, take the second film.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And so, but like, to the point of, like, the first film making a lot of money, I think it made, like, around 300 million for the first film, but, like, there is the money that he's losing off of the sequel because now there's going to be no sequel. Like, there's not going to be a... The second one's called off of the sequel, because now there's gonna be no sequel. There's not gonna be a, the second one's called
Starting point is 01:01:06 It Starts With Us, and it's about them co-parenting together. So there's no way. I think there will be. And how do you get the two of them back together to film another movie? Well, I guess they did it with Anna Kendrick in A Simple Favor 2. No, someone plays her.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Someone else plays that character, a totally different person. Yeah. Scar else plays that character, a totally different person. Yeah. And Scarlett Johansson. Yeah. Someone plays her because I really I didn't know there was a sequel and I was like I've never seen an abusive relationship where you're basically like you like your baby well guess what we're getting a divorce. Yeah. And you're controlling neurosurgeon. And now I'm telling you, even though you've been a delight during this pregnancy, we are done because a year ago you did these three things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:53 And he's like, okay. I was, I mean, already I was like, I know this is like a fictional thing or maybe it's not, but I was like, this doesn't make sense. How are they going to co-parent? Yeah. So I am curious to know what that movie will look like and is it like, oh, well, as long as I'm not with you, I'm this super great guy. And then also the Jenny Slate character, the sister was like, you're my friend, he's my brother,
Starting point is 01:02:16 but if you stick with him, I will stop. We'll never speak to you again. I'm like, that doesn't make sense either. Like you stick by your brother, you don't need your stupid flower job You are gonna be like he yeah, please go to counseling any sister-in-law would be like He's calling me. He's crying even if it's not right. You'd be like is there any way is there any way you wouldn't immediately just go Yeah, you should definitely like never talk to him again, and he could have the kid every other Wednesday
Starting point is 01:02:45 Yeah, that was weird like it was so weird. So I think it could be good. I think there's so much interest in it Also, everyone wants to see his cut which I'm so curious about they have to release that at some point She's doing those weird jokey lines. I don't know that his cut would be that different Yeah, but you would think that she would prioritize her goofy lines over whatever the script called for. Right, so they tried to use versions. Yeah, they were saying that she would riff and change and tweak her dialogue daily. That like, I'm sure they have a bunch of different takes
Starting point is 01:03:16 that didn't incorporate any of her goofy cheesy stuff. Oh, and the other thing is, when she's like, he's like, oh, I'd like to meet your mom. Yeah. You wanna meet my mom? Well, like, oh, I'd like to meet your mom. Yeah. You want to meet my mom? Well, like, why wouldn't he? Like, that's so, like, it was so weird. And then they get married and they tell the mom,
Starting point is 01:03:36 like, it's after they've even framed photos of like their wedding day and they're making food. They can't even stop me to talk to the mom to say we got married. And the mom's on, you know, FaceTime on, and she lives an hour away. And she's like, I just wish she would have invited me. Oh God, mom.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Don't you hate it when your mother's pissed you didn't invite her to your wedding? I'm like. It was a very, like. Why would you invite your mom to your wedding? Her whole portrayal of the character was just really strange. Bizarre. Do you think she should have read the book? I heard like the theory is like, she didn't want to read the book How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married?
Starting point is 01:04:05 How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married?
Starting point is 01:04:11 How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married?
Starting point is 01:04:18 How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? How did you get married? 2017, not knowing a thing. Which sometimes I think at this point could be good.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I think sometimes you overstudying it might, you know, I get it, but no, I think this is the first time I've ever heard of an actress that doesn't read the book. And then yes, there's an adaptation, you know, it's just a whole different category, but still you would kind of know what's the origin. What's the origin? Or to like get to the heart of the character,
Starting point is 01:04:48 be like, what is this character all about? And maybe I can tweak it a bit and bring it to life in my own way, but like without having to completely recreate the character altogether. Ugh, we will soon find out. Taylor Swift, guess who she didn't invite to the Chiefs game last night,
Starting point is 01:05:04 which they won our go to Super Bowl. Blake and Ryan. Blake, why weren't they invited? Well, this happens too in Hollywood. It's called, when you got a little stink on you, people leave your messages on red. They are just so busy. And they're like, I fucking,
Starting point is 01:05:19 I just tried to be a friend and help you and gave you the song and I didn't know the, Taylor's probably like, I didn't read the book. I didn't know. When she asked me to help with this scene over a glass of Chardonnay with Ryan Reynolds, I did not know that this was a movie about domestic violence.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I thought it was about a girl who fell in love with a neurosurgeon on a rooftop. And I thought we're writing a dry bar movie. Like that's gonna be what you're gonna be watching years from now while getting your hair blown out I did not know this so leave me the fuck away. I'm not a dragon. I'm not a writer I'm just a pop singer and you know not rain on my parade at the second Super Bowl She said that at or there was a source that revealed that like that was it should they were like she lent
Starting point is 01:05:59 She's Taylor lent the the song to the movie and that's like the most of her involvement. Like she had no idea, she had no inner workings with the production of the film. Like she had no clue that any of this was going. But they were friends, they are foes, they are friends. They are friends, yeah, but I mean, now Dragon flew the cave. Like she ain't coming back. She's at peace.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Imagine being Taylor Swift and then reading the headlines and seeing the text messages where Blake Lively is comparing herself to Khaleesi and you're her dragon. Only one of them. Yeah, only one of the two dragons. You and Ryan Reynolds are the two dragons. And then also when she's like, thanks for saying that you got the pages
Starting point is 01:06:37 and that you, this was another text, and that you appreciate my contributions, would have been nice if you said that you liked them. Or did she say something like that or that you would have been more specific? Because now I have to go back to my two dragons and you have not specifically complimented them. And he's like, what is going on?
Starting point is 01:06:55 And he's trying to placate her. No, you're really great. You're so creative. Like, fuck what's going on with this. I mean, talk about a mind fuck for him because he's trying to produce, he's trying to act. I know, and then you see the clips, did you, when they released the raw footage
Starting point is 01:07:11 of them filming the scene together and people, and then Blake's team comes out and they're like, yeah, this proves our case, this proves that she looks absolutely uncomfortable in this scene that they filmed. Did you see the footage? Yeah, but it was, yeah, but that's what it was. It was supposed to be like flurry.
Starting point is 01:07:24 She was plain coy. She's like, I'm not into you. And then they literally direct her that as he leans in to kiss you, turn around and don't let him kiss you. And then that's exactly what they play out. Yeah, it was. Why was he wearing a onesie pajamas to bowling?
Starting point is 01:07:39 That was in the book that they were wearing onesies. I don't remember why or what. I, like Blake Lively, I did not read the book either. But no, I don't remember why they were wearing onesies, but I know that that was, I believe that was a scene in the book. Are you watching Salt Lake City Reunion? I am.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And let's talk about one thing, which is Bronwyn. And Bronwyn, in one of the episodes, a jeweler comes and presents her with a $4 million necklace, and when she wears it that night in Palm Springs. Now, when she was on Nick Miles, I listened, and he was like, you know, kind of defending her relationship because, you know, he has a large age difference with his wife now. And he goes, and you know, of course you're going to be jealous. You have a $5 million necklace. And I remember driving being like, it's only four.
Starting point is 01:08:36 She never corrected him. Yeah. She never said it was only four, but whatever. She never says, actually, I wore it and found it was too much, but we're working on a different piece. She never says it. So they get to the reunion and Lisa Boll was like, I know Emma, I know Emma the jeweler, I know Emma the jeweler and she said you never bought anything. And she goes, no. Todd and I decided in this economic client it was a little ostentatious and I wanted to get a smaller necklace and earrings and actually we were in the process of deciding that's not what Emma says.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Emma says you didn't get anything. That was amazing. Yeah, I mean, I wonder what Emma's thinking now because even all the other, Mary's like, I would never work with her again if she were my jeweler and she were talking like that. And I mean, it is kind of true. Like you do tank your reputation by going
Starting point is 01:09:22 and spilling that gossip to one of the other housewives knowing that they're likely gonna weaponize it on the show. But on the show, since the beginning of time, and when I say the beginning of time, I'm saying real housewife of OC. When I was on Chelsea Lately, I look out from the panel and I see Slade and Gina Kino's son, this old school Real Housewives,
Starting point is 01:09:45 and this blonde girl that's Slade's new girlfriend, he had broken up with Joe. And somehow, and Lynn Curtin, somehow they met Chewie out one night, rest in peace. So I go, oh my God, I'm like, I'm the only one watching Real Housewives, nobody knows who these people are. And I'm like, oh my God, So we go to Chewie's dressing room.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And I'm like, I'm a huge fan. I know everything about the show. And I meet the new girlfriend and I'm like, oh my God, Slade. And I go, and Joe was such a bitch after you bought all that expensive jewelry for her birthday, she wears the jewelry and goes out with her girlfriends to the nightclub.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Now this is six, 17 years ago, 16 years ago. He goes, I never bought that jewelry. That was a jeweler friend of mine that wanted to be featured. We never paid for that. And so I'm like, this has been going on since the beginning of time. And they know that, but they because she's not because Lisa's not happy with her. And because, you know, they're all so much about like you're not as rich and your car is leased And you borrowed it to something, you know, it's it's all of that Yeah, but yeah
Starting point is 01:10:50 I mean I'm sure Lisa has worn things that were borrowed just for the show and then gave them back and never bought them like it's Everybody does it on every season on Real Housewives Everything's a loner right because like Because once you wear it on camera once, unless you're Erica with the Panther ring and you're gonna wear that until the end. And the earrings. Yeah, she ran out of that passage to get home
Starting point is 01:11:13 with that like stuck up her vagina. She was like, ah, that's it. All I need is this one double bag, yeah. Oh my God, but the reunion is good. What's your general thoughts about the season? It was a good season. It was a good season. I like Bronwyn.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I like Mary. I like Angie. Like the newbies really, I mean, even though Angie and Mary aren't really new, but I feel like there was just this new energy that they kind of brought that really kind of overshadowed like Meredith and Heather this season that I like.
Starting point is 01:11:42 So I feel like one of them has to go at some point. What do you think about the, hold on, I'm gonna find the photo because I thought I had it. What do you think about the Alibaba of it all? So last night, Whitney has a curated jewelry line, it's jewelry with a purpose purpose and for jewelry with intention. And it's zodiac signs and Christian stuff and whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:15 So I remember when this came out and someone realized that the same photo that she was using on her website to promote her jewelry was the same photo that was on Alibaba, which is where you could buy the stuff. This is the cheap of the cheap. You get it, you put it in your little retail store, whatever, and that these items were going for $3.96 into Alibaba, and they're going for $48 on hers.
Starting point is 01:12:40 So the story comes out, she tries to say, Lisa Barlow put it out there. I personally think some fan figured it out. Yeah. I mean, it was a fan who figured out that the earrings that were told to be $10,000 were from Revolve. Right away, someone's like, I saw those earrings, I just bought them today.
Starting point is 01:13:01 And then I, other Juicy Scoopers helped me like solidify that yes, they were even bought by her, whatever. And so I'm like, I don't think Lisa had to do this. I think this was, I think a smaller creator or just a fan gave it to a medium creator who originally put it out. And they posted it. So there was an account that posted this on Instagram stories and they even showed that when they Posted it Whitney Rose had viewed their story and they have the screenshot of Whitney seeing their story seen that this comparison was already out there Before any of the bigger creators started sharing it or talking about it or it like it was months before the show Was even like a puppy gate. Yeah, it's like Lisa Vanderpump will go to her grave
Starting point is 01:13:48 saying, I did not do this. I mean, I'm like, I just think there's so many people working around. There's the people at the shelter. There's the people who are a PA. There's a nanny of treats. There's the nanny of the woman who she gave the dog to. Like, who's to say where it somehow got? And maybe she was privy to it at one point,
Starting point is 01:14:10 but like, did she actually go out and put this out there to like, destroy Whitney's life or whatever? No, and so, but then last night, Whitney goes, that was a placeholder and, you know. I mean, come on, it's obviously, that was a placeholder. And you know. I mean, come on. It's obviously it was from Alibaba. And like, she's like, they're from curated vendors.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Yeah, one of those curated vendors is fucking Alibaba. Like cast out of the bag. The best part about it is Meredith's voice. Well, did you get your jewelry from Alibaba? Meredith does Alibaba. Yeah, so yeah. I mean, afterwards I started looking at stuff at Alibaba. Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, afterwards, I started looking at stuff at Alibaba. I'm like, why the fuck not?
Starting point is 01:14:49 Frony Reunion, they are the most stylish of all the housewives. Look at these looks. This is Psy in this black dress. I guess they were told to do like black and gold. I mean, Jessel in this number. I mean, they have so much style. And then of course, you know, Jenna.
Starting point is 01:15:05 I can't with Jenna Lyons. Jenna Lyons had to be weird and wore a black bathrobe with a thing on her hair, but still kind of fun. I like her shoes. And then Erin is pregnant in gold. Oh my god, we've seen this on Housewives so many times though, just in the Tom Ford pink version of it. Lisa Vanderpump wore them.
Starting point is 01:15:24 It's probably my least favorite. Uba, great. Uba looks great, her shoes great. And the bracelets, they just have really good style. Hold on. And then, oh, and then this one I really like. This girl is the new lesbian model, Raquel. This is white, black, and gold.
Starting point is 01:15:39 This is such a stunning, stunning dress. I love it. Okay, so, with this whole thing, what is your prediction of what is going to happen with Brynn? Because just to get people to date, Brynn essentially lied and said she told Uba a while back that she had been essayed. And then, but she was very sexual in the way she always talks and jokes.
Starting point is 01:16:11 And then at one point, Uba was annoyed with her and was because Brynn said, if you're tired at dinner, why are you even here? Which is what I always talk about once they start to go, acting like they all work at Kmart and they all clocked in. And if someone is not participating, not yelling, not fighting, not bringing it, is on their phone or tired, they're like,
Starting point is 01:16:34 you're not pulling your weight, why are you even here? And that ticked off Uba. And Uba's like, don't tell me what I have to do. I'm Uba whatever her last name is, and she's very self-assured. And so she gets in the van and she's like, don't tell me what I have to do. I got this job because of who I am.
Starting point is 01:16:52 You got this job, who knows? Probably because you slept with somebody. Well then, that is rude. And I don't know who she's sleeping with, what gay producer she had to sleep with. Clearly, I don't think that's how you get the job at Bravo, but then she takes that runs with it and is, you know, upset about it. And the girls are upset. They're like, stop saying that. And then it gets confusing because then Britt
Starting point is 01:17:16 is like, you're like basically saying I have a dick in my mouth. And then it was like, I did not say you have a dick in your mouth I said you probably slept with someone to get the job and everyone's like oh my god just stop talking stop talking so then Brynn buzzed gets more upset and is like I can't believe she's saying this especially because I shared with her that I was essayed okay and whatever so she says it and it's like almost she says the full word that you know if I say it I don't know like sometimes I say these things on YouTube and some same so They're all like oh my god what an insensitive horrible cruel bitch So they're all team her and then they go to bed and they take off the mics and then Jessel goes to ubal
Starting point is 01:17:59 Like girls are pretty upset like I don't know why you would say that when you know the background of Brin. And she's like, I was never told that. And then everyone realizes that Brin is a pathological liar. And then Brin does an article for Rolling Stone that comes out and she compliments all of her castmates. She doesn't say anything mean about them, but she justifies her behavior. And is like, I'm very close to Erin, we're like sisters. And then Erin comments and she's like, we are not sisters. I haven't talked to her in three months. I was rooting for her. And now I don't know what the hell is her issue.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Yeah. I mean, I don't think they bring her back next season. I just don't see how they can. No. I mean, all the women have publicly distanced themselves. Jenna Lyons, Erin posted her comment. So I don't see how they can. Because nobody, I mean, all the women have publicly distanced themselves. Jenna Lyons, Erin, you know, posted her comment. So I don't think that she has, and there's no lifeline. There's no sheena shea on the cast that's gonna be like,
Starting point is 01:18:52 okay, let me play both sides and like be nice to Tom Sandwall. Like we don't have that with Brynn. And so I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if she turns into the next Leah McSweeney and wants to sue the network and joins the reality reckoning right there with Raquel and Leah and you know, she says Andy Cohen tried to give her coke in the bathroom of Watch What Happens Live. She's gonna come up with something
Starting point is 01:19:12 that producers encouraged her or something. She's gonna come up with something to hold against the network if she doesn't get to keep her job, but I don't think she's keeping her job. No, I don't either. I mean, I don't know though that any of them are coming back. I don't, that's my thing. That's why I was like everyone online, everyone's like fire Brin fire Brin. I'm like you fucking like shut up. None of you are watching this show to begin with. The
Starting point is 01:19:34 ratings were terrible. Like why do you not have an opinion on who should be fired? Scrap it all. And then nobody cares about any of them. And this explosive thing is even hard for me to talk about. Yeah. It's not like a... It's not a juicy scandal. It's not fun. It's like gross. It's like, are you a pathological liar
Starting point is 01:19:52 because you had a shitty childhood? So then should we feel sorry for you? But then your lies have caused a lot of pain for other people and you're just like a weirdo. I don't know. And then Lizzie Siewicki came out. So Lizzie was, I talked briefly about this before, but she was on the show.
Starting point is 01:20:10 And I've read more about what has happened because I think I was like a little bit not clear. But I wrote to her and I go, how are you feeling about what's going on with Brynn? She's like, thank God now people are seeing her for who she is. So the story was, she is Jewish and she is a matchmaker between Jewish men and women, okay?
Starting point is 01:20:37 And so Brynn was like, set me up with a hot Jew. And she's like, well, we're not that kind of matchmaker. Like these guys wanna be with Jewish women hot, you know, Jew. And she's like, well, we're not that kind of matchmaker. Like, these guys want to be with Jewish women so that the bloodline of the child remains Jewish and the Jewish is the religion of the mom. And she then says, oh my God, the bloodline, and you're as bad as, you know, I don't know if she said the N word, meaning N-A-Z-I Nazi, but she insinuated that. And then that really upset Lizzie
Starting point is 01:21:10 because her whole thing is like, she was already getting anti-Semitic stuff. And this was before October 7th. So then she goes and is talking to the producers about it. And then it was, and then they go, you should have a call with Brynn herself. And while they're having the call, it gets, what happens then?
Starting point is 01:21:36 Like it gets- Brynn's trying to explain her side of it because she does kind of allude to Lizzie and she somehow Brynn allude to Lizzie. And she somehow compares it to, like, if somebody called, because Brynn's half black, if somebody called her the N-word. And she said the N-word on the phone call. Right. Brynn did.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Yes, and so then she's like, what? No. Like, this is, you know. So then they get off the phone, and then her husband, who was privy to the call, because she had put it on speaker he then talks to the producers and he says This is just all too scary for us to even get involved with because this girl is oh, this was it
Starting point is 01:22:18 According to her husband at hurting they're on speakerphone. They said that Brynn said They're on speakerphone with her. They said that Brynn said, I'll say, this was it, she said that Brynn threatened, and I'm just trying to remember the article, so just that she said, I'll just go around telling people that you called me that. That was it. She threatened it.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I'll just say that you called me the N-word. Yeah. And- I think she said it was like, it's basically like calling me the N-word. And I think whatever, but I think Brynn plays in this way or like she kind of alludes to certain things.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Right, but it sounded like she- She dances, yeah. But it was like a threat that she was- I'll say this, and that's what then made them upset. And then in relaying the story- Yeah, the husband. Is when the husband said the word, and that made the producers just go, oh my God and then but also she was like get me out of this
Starting point is 01:23:08 Yeah, and she never made a dime and she never got paid for the things that she filmed Yeah, he didn't call bring the n-word He was quoting brain by saying and she said she would do this and he writes the word without saying the n-word He's the full word and then that's when they decided to just nix them But they wanted out too cuz they were were just like, this is too sweet. I think they saw that Brynn was just a liability. Yeah, liability. And like the whole thing is like,
Starting point is 01:23:31 in watching Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and Mary saying like, well, I got upset with Angie because I have abandonment issues, my mom and I'm like, listen, this is who they choose. They choose fucked up people. And sometimes they're kind of funny because they're like a fucked up socialite, like Sonja. And it's funny.
Starting point is 01:23:51 And she, like Sonja is as funny and fucked up as she is. I always was a Sonja fan because she never did anything like outwardly cruel or manipulative or planning or premeditated to her to cast member. You know what I mean? Never. In all those years. She was sloppy and she was whatever, but she was like, I'm gonna knock you out, like fall down, like things like that.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Like, but this is just like, now you, but then you can get other fucked up people that have sad childhoods or whatever. And you know, like Mary's's like my mother left me too yeah because you married her stepdad yeah you married her husband her mom wasn't always the granddad because she married the grandmother's husband and took over the church and the mom supposedly wanted the church but she was like too late I'm marrying the step so it's like that is sad and weird but if you go, if that's who you're getting,
Starting point is 01:24:46 then you also might get real liability stuff like this that goes barf. Or like Brandy. Huh? Like Brandy. Yeah. You know, sometimes they don't know how to filter or they don't think things through
Starting point is 01:24:59 and they just do and say things, because that was like an issue in Beverly Hills where a lot of the women were afraid to film with Brandy because they never knew what was going to come out of her mouth. Right. Zach, such a delight. Looking cuter than you've ever looked before.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Thank you. Killing it. Tell everybody where they can get more of you and your great content. Yes. No Filter with Zach Peter streams live on YouTube Monday through Friday and available on all podcast platforms. Thank you, honey. Follow him and let's see.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Oh, we never said, oh wait, we said the prediction. The prediction was that they would settle. They would settle. It's not gonna go to trial. There's no way. Okay. Mine is that they'll settle and then that she might. Leave him.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Yes. And write a book. She's gonna take Meghan Markle's deal. She'll be like, Meghan Markle, she's gonna take Meghan Markle's deal. She'll be like, Meghan Markle's not taking it, I'll take the deal. Not that I want any family to break up, but. It ends with divorce. Exactly, maybe, possibly.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Thank you.

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