Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Wendy McLendon-Covey on Roasts, Housewives and Bridesmaids

Episode Date: May 12, 2026

Today, I am joined by the hilarious comedic powerhouse Wendi McLendon-Covey, and we are diving deep into her latest role on the hit series St. Denis Medical, trust me, you’ll die for her stories from the set. We also tackle the aftermath of the Kevin Hart roast, debating whether the art of the roast has finally crossed the line or if people just need to toughen up for the sake of comedy. Of course, we couldn't ignore Wendi’s iconic turn in Bridesmaids; I share my personal pitch for what the sequel should look like, and it is a total game-changer. Finally, we get into the heavy-hitting Bravo tea, from the messy divorce drama between Dorit and PK, including the latest on her living situation, to the explosive scandal of a Real Housewife allegedly sleeping with West from Summer House. Plus, we’re breaking down the fresh drama coming out of the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. -Head to DailyLook.com to take your style quiz and use code JUICYSCOOP for 50% off your first order. -Head to Quince.com/juicy for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. -Our listeners can buy one prescription pair and get 20% off additional pairs at WarbyParker.com/JUICYSCOOP — and using our link helps support the show. #WarbyParker #ad  -Download Cash AppToday: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/9l268n36 #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Direct deposit and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/juicycrimes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I have a return favorite, a funny lady, from St. Dennis back to bridesmaids, to Brownlings to Reno 911. It's Wendy McClendon Covey. Perfect pronunciation. Thank you for having me, Heather. I am so thrilled that you're here because we're good friends and you're a funny bitch to talk to. Well, we have a lot to discuss. St. Dennis, what season are you in? We just finished season two. that just finished airing. And so we're filming season three starting in July.

Very lovely. And it's so funny. And I remember when it, when you first, like, started to do it. And it's very much in the vein of, like, Parks and Rec and the office. And your character is, I mean, when you read it, did you know it was just the most perfect thing for you? Because you're the head of the hospital. Yeah, I got to try this. A little inappropriate. Yeah. Because I've had bosses. like that. Yeah. Where you have to keep people motivated and you don't even believe what you're saying anymore. Yeah.

You know, and your whole personal life is shit. Because Joyce, poor Joyce, like, she probably hasn't even finished paying her student loans off. Right. You know? We had a little cliffhanger at the end of season two where David Allen Greer's character wakes up from a surgery and said, where's my Joyce? Where's my Joyce?

So what does that mean? Does that mean we had a thing going on at some point? Which I would love. Who knows? And you guys have so much fun working together. Yes. And he's always in your comments. And he's always like he's such a supportive delight.

He is. He is. Yeah. It's so funny. Now, recently you were in the news because unfortunately you were very missed when there was a bridesmaid reunion on the stage. Was that at the Golden Globes? Where was that at?

That was at the Oscars. At the Oscars. Now, walk us through why you weren't there when you found out you would not be able to be there, how you felt. Well, doing ADR for St. Dennis, meaning additional dialogue recording where you go into a studio and you see your face blasted on a giant screen, I could not stand the look of my neck anymore. Okay. I was going into full psychosis about it. Like, I am a melting candle. I got to address this. So I had a couple of consults, like back in November, found a surgeon and was like, okay, you, you're my guy. We're going to do this. Okay, we're going to do it in March. I had the date down.

I had paid the money. Then like three weeks prior to the Academy Awards, they're like, oh, they want to do a bridesmaids reunion on the show. And I was like, well, I hope they have a good time because I'm getting my shit tightened up. I'm not canceling this appointment. If you ever think, you know what? I know this will be a pain of the ass, but what if I moved it a little bit further down or when I had another break to be able to do the Oscars,

but then I go to the Oscars with a neck I don't love? There you go. There you go. Plus, the amount of time they gave us, I mean, I hate trying to find dresses for these events. I know you told me. You said it's not fun. It is such a pain in the ass. I thought, you know what? It's fine. I'm going to skip it. No one will notice that I'm not there. If everybody else is there, who cares what I'm doing, right?

So I was wrong. I was wrong about that. I get my procedure. I'm laying around in a stupor for a couple of weeks, you know, just like in and out of consciousness. Kristen texted me the day of and was like, we wanted to say something at the beginning of our, our presentation about why you're not there. I said, please don't. Don't mention it.

Don't mention it at all. I said, I just had my neck tightened and I'm recovering. That's all it is. So you don't have to say anything. No one's going to notice. Right.

So I, you know, I'm going in and out of consciousness all day long. And then I start watching the Mormon wives. Yes. Okay. And what's her name is just not

getting on that plane to go see, to go do the Bachelor. And I was very upset. Taylor, that's the one. And then my phone starts blowing up. Where are you? I'm livid that they didn't invite you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Who's this? It's just fans of mine. Oh, yeah. And texting me and then DMs. They thought you got snubbed. So then I thought, well, I might as well just say something because I don't want anyone making drama where there is no drama. So I just said, look, here, here's what I look like.

And I thought I should stay home. And now you look great. I almost have all my feeling back too. You always had, you've always had great skin. Oh, thank you. You've always looked young and youthful. So it all worked out great. Yeah.

The honesty was lovely. And now, you know, every time you probably get besieged with people saying, why isn't there bridesmaids too? Uh-huh. We're going on what, almost 20 years? It's been 15 years. no one's writing it. And I realized when I talked about Sherwood Country Club where I belong,

they filmed bridesmaids there. The gates are like when she goes to the fancy shower where everyone gets a puppy. That's right. Yes. Oh my God. That's where you live. Yeah.

It's okay. It's okay. It's behind gates. It's okay. When people say bridesmaids, another movie, you know, they've said no, no all these years. I mean, can I write the movie? for you right now. It's so easy. I mean, it would be very easy to do, but no one is the people

that would want to sign off on it are not going to sign off on it. Okay, they are. Yeah. Because I'm going to manifest it. Like Amanda, I'm a manifesting mama. Because no one had talked about that before she came along. Right. Okay. So, they certainly had not. I would have given another five years. Okay. Because then it's mother of the bride, mother of the groom. One of you guys is planning a wedding. Right. It could be one of your horrible sons that's been jerking off in a sock for 20 years.

I think one of my sons got a teacher pregnant. I think it's like a Mary Kay Laterno. I love that. That could be your storyline. If it's not your wedding, you're going. You guys have kept in touch. One of your weird sons as a groomsman. Right.

Okay. Yeah. And, you know, there's a whole storyline where all of them have kept in touch. There's some, maybe two having kept in touch, but their kids are fucking. I mean, it could be. That happens. Yes. So fun.

We do it at a White Lotus type resort to save time for everybody. I'm listening intently to what you're saying. You're such a producer. It's not even a. funny Heather McDonald. So everybody just goes, listen. Melissa McCarthy, listen, everybody. Kristen, it's two weeks. Right. Two weeks shoot at a resort. I don't see a downside. It's a destination wedding. Yeah. And if we must go to Cancun, I guess we have to. Yes. You know, give of ourselves. It's what the audience wants. The audience wants it. Well, I like what you're. I like what you're

saying. Okay. I just think it's perfect. You're just solving problems left and right here. I just think it's perfect. Yeah. You know, I, anyway. So speaking of comedy, I really love this of you. Thank you. Throwback Thursdays, my senior photo, still look the same. You look the same, especially with your new neck. Though you're 18, you're choosing to wear a cowl deck. Because let's dress like, Why were we dressing at 18 like we were 43 and a principal? But we did. I know why. A big old blazer with massive shoulder pads that hit like mid thigh.

Then you're going to put on a tight pencil skirt with that or a mini skirt and stilettos. Yeah. To carry your books all around high school. But that because it was, you know, that's something you send your grandparents. Right. I don't want to be too risk gay or whatever. But they also did, because we had sororities in my high school. Where was that?

In Long Beach. They weren't sanctioned by the school. Okay, that's interesting. All Long Beach schools have fraternities and sororities for off campus. That's crazy. It's ridiculous. So by the time everybody got out, it was like, fuck this. I don't want to do this anymore.

Yeah. But they would wear the, what do you call it? The letters? Tube top. Oh, tube top. That's all fuzzy. like the black fuzzy tube top. I don't know what it was.

Feathers or something, but they all got their sorority pictures taken in it. So the shoulder bearing. Did you do that? Off shoulder. Yeah. Yes. Yes. No, I didn't. I just wore like an Angora sweater. But like, yes, I remember that. And you like turned slightly to the side. Yeah. And then cock your head in a weird position. So bad. I think I did that for college. That was my college photo. And it was. Wasn't cute. I don't know why I must have been hung over that day or thing. It was not good.

But I love the bangs. Thank you. Yeah. Intense. I'm lucky I still have any hair after what I did with your hair spray. Yes. This juicy scoop episode is sponsored by Daily Look, the number one highest rated premium personal styling service for women. With Daily Look, you get your own dedicated personal stylist to curate a box of clothes based on your body shape, preferences and lifestyle. This is not an algorithm. These are real personal stylists. You get the same stylus every time. So head to Dailylook.com and use JuicyScoop for 50% off your first order.

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think it was, I think I felt lucky that we watched it at home because a lot of them, you know how tapings are and it's at the form. Right. And so some of the people were like, it was a little hard to hear. We were watching the screen anyway. And I was like, no, when you get home, like, some of my friends who are writers and stuff, I'm like, it, it really was good. It was very entertaining. Now, have you ever done a roast? I have never done a roast. I've never really even, once I had a manager that was like, like, Whitney Cummings had done it. And the manager was like, that's what you need to do. And I was like, I don't know that it's my style of comedy. Of course, you get other people that are experts that help you write it.

But really what it is about a roast is that you're putting yourself there to also be roasted. Right. And I remember years ago when Comedy Central used to do them, and they got a lot of people, you know, from Donald Trump to Pamela Anderson to Joan Rivers. It was a big paycheck. Some people really did it for the paycheck. And I remember Joan Rivers wanted Chelsea to be a part of hers. Okay. And we were at Chelsea lately and it came up and Chelsea was just like, no, I don't want to.

At the time, I don't remember why if she just was like, it's not my thing or she's busy or why would. I don't really know the reason. I don't know if that then contributed to like their little e-news beef or whatever. Oh, okay. But I kind of thought, yeah, you're putting yourself there to be ripped apart. Right. And at the time, I was like, oh, if Chelsea's there, it's going to be, you know, you slept with the president of E and the like all the dumb, stupid things. And with, with Pamela Anderson, she did it once.

And this is like after she's had two kids. And every joke was her big vagina and the sex tape and being a slut. And I'm just like, she's a bomb with like two boys. I remember thinking. But now, then they went away for a while. Right. Then Tom Brady was a big thing. And now it's here on Netflix live.

And I do think it's perfect. Okay. It's very edgy, completely not politically correct. Right. I mean, jokes about Cheryl Underwood's husband back in the 90s who killed himself. Oh, no, no, no. No, nothing was off limits. Oh, that hurts.

Really? It was, it's insane. So if it's like, if you are not someone that you're the least bit, you know, offended by things, this three hour roast is not for you. But if you're ready for just hardcore comedy, like you can't believe you're seeing it. And it's Netflix and it's live. Again, no one's shoving it in your face. Right. You don't have to watch it. I thought it was like, I was thoroughly entertained. I was like, like jaw dropped. And then there were times from like, ooh, are these two people kind of really mad at each other? Are they not? And I think they all are just like, who cares? Right. Which says a lot and I think it takes people into their 50s to really not care. So I thought it was good. It sounds like Kevin and Kat Williams have squashed their beef. So that's interesting because he sure had a lot to say. I don't think they've squashed the beef. Okay. I don't think they've squashed the beef at all,

but I think they're both smart enough to know that it benefited them both. Yeah. Very much. You know, a lot of, just seeing someone that you haven't seen in a while on your TV, they go on tour, it's going to help sell tickets. You know, everybody did pretty well.

That's a stand-up that did this, that, you know, from Cheryl Underwood got like a standing ovation. Chelsea did great. Shane Gillis, you know, was very edgy. He did great. Cat, it was hilarious. Okay. And, you know, they make it that like, oh, Kevin didn't know he was coming out and all that.

And you, I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you how magic's revealed. Yeah. Yeah. That's a whole other show that was on Fox. But entertaining-wise, very exciting. Okay. Very funny. And then Kevin had his rebuttal.

like he gets up and he goes after cat and it was great and you know it was really so funny and like just it was fun it made me like proud to be a stand-up now how do you know Kevin? I know Kevin from the Chelsea lately days

and I've seen him over the years and not to bring it about me again but since I live where Brian's raised was shot he just was playing golf there and I heard the voice through the through my backyard so I went down and was like Kevin are you joining the club

and you know he is and he's into golf and he's a delight the wife's a delight and I just yeah I think it's I thought it was it was fun it was fun to go to the party and let's see

I thought Jeffrey Ross who is you know beat cancer he wore this Eddie Murphy red leather outfit. And I thought he was really funny. He'd like dance to the Eddie Murphy's song from Beverly Hillscape. I don't know. There were some things that just like made me happy. Here we are. You know, they had one of those, um, oh, very cute. One of those like black and white photo things. Love. You have to pose perfectly for those things. And then Tiffany had a, she was, there were people

up there that didn't speak. Okay. So Tiffany was there, but didn't speak. But didn't speak. Okay. But looked really cute, which is what really matters. That's all that matters Yeah and Chelsea did great and she looked She had a really good outfit on So it was all good Oh this guy

Addy He was a writer on the show And he's a juicy scooper And I was like Oh my God Can I get a photo with you? Love that So it was fun

It was fun to talk to the writers It was good Are you a roast person Do you enjoy it Or does it give you anxiety It gives me anxiety It really does Like why would you sign up

to have somebody do this to you. I can't put my mind around it. I don't want a roast done about me. No. I don't need the chicken leg flat ass. I don't need the puppet, you know, in the movie saw jokes. I have them all myself. You know that Billy who wrote the puppet,

who wrote the Trice Cullen's Saw Movies? I've never seen the Saw Movies. Well, the resemblance is uncanny. I rebuke this statement. No. What I show you, you're going to say, I kind of see it. It's fine. I don't like this, Heather. But you know what I'm not? You know what I'm going to say? I'm not going to say I'm never going to do it because I just realized I just said all the jokes about myself and I think I'm okay with it. So maybe I would be okay with it. I don't know. I just get steeped out by, I went to one roast at Comedy Central. when I was working there. What was it?

John Stamos, maybe? Yeah, I think I remember that. And I just felt disgusting the whole time. Like, why are we doing this? Yeah. I don't know. Look how good you look. Thanks.

It's a great dress. You know, like you, repeat outfits. Yeah. If an outfit looks good on you, why wouldn't you want to wear it again? Yeah. If a dress loves only you, you wear it. I've worn this a few times It's a good one

Yeah You know why I didn't know if there'd be a red carpet And I looked at what the red carpet was There wasn't at the party Okay But there was one for the show And I looked at the poster And it was this

When you see this It's there was like this color of the orange Like the fire of the roast Okay So I thought my orange dress would look good But there was no red carpet at the party Oh I really I try to read

I really hate a red carpet. I really hate a red carpet. It's a lot of stress. I always look like such a moron. I always look like, oh, someone flunked out of John Robert Powers. I always pose the same way. People got along posing or something. I always remember Jenny McCarthy.

She just started to do weird shit because she's like, if I have to get all cute and go to this thing, I want this photo to go somewhere. Right. And it kind of made her pop. Really? Like she'd trip or she'd like do it. weird face or like and I kind of feel like that's what I got to start doing this yeah

carpet lean into the awkwardness because I'm me trying not to be awkward is making me more awkward yes so that's why I like Meg Stalter from hacks she's always doing something ridiculous she says something funny that right there is a red carpet coverage I want to see yeah I don't want to see everybody you know all posed you know that that whole trend where everybody's got their underwear hanging out like oh my when is that going away. So unoriginal. You're shameless.

Okay. Yes. Did you look at the Metball? Have you ever been invited to the Metball? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. I'm just not that important. I always just think, I see the Metball.

I'm always just like, I can feel the weight and the heaviness and the uncomfortableness of the outfit. And being like, how long do I have to be in this outfit before I can get into the next outfit? Or when am I going to? trip and fall down the stairs. Like watching, watching them try to get Blake Lively's skirt out there. And she was fussing and, you know, talking bad to the guys because someone did a lip reading thing. And she was trying to be really nice because of what she's been through.

But she was like, oh, darling, please. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I thought it was all nice. But of course, everyone's looking for something. Yeah, she's trying to be nice. Well, you can't win. Yeah, you can't win.

then it would been better, but now you're just trying to be nice. Yeah. And now I feel like, well, it only costs $5 million a year to run that costume institute. So what's with all these high prices? Like they made, what, $45 million this year? Oh. Okay. That's very charitable.

Yeah. For the costumes. We, you sure you don't want to do something else with it? I don't know. Right. know, maybe I'm just being contrarian, but I do find it odd. What I want to know is so do they then go in those weird outfits and sit down and hear speeches about the charity and eat the chicken dinner?

Yes, exactly. Do they or they not? They're not. I don't know. Is it literally just for the photo op that they wear these? And then everyone has to go to Sprinter van because you have to like stand up because your outfit's so weird. Okay. And then I'm like, how many people, like how many gay guys does it take to get you in the outfit, make the outfit, do your makeup hair, fluff you, show up? And then is that, are those, is that gay entourage with you all night? Or are they just dying to go and have their own gay fun without you? And then you're like left there by yourself. Okay. I'm going to get stress hives just from considering that. That sounds terrible. That sounds terrible.

Yeah. I'd be angry by the time I got there. No good pictures would happen with me. Yeah. Oh, forget it. The couple of times I've used a stylist, they've been like, I'll say like, I can't wear that dress. I wouldn't be able to move. Well, that's okay because you could just lay down in the limo. No. No. And then what happens? Someone wheels me on a dolly down the red carpet. Like, I don't know. I don't. know, that sounds miserable to me. Do you work your outfits a long night at the Golden Globes? Do you work it around a sensible shoe? That's like your most comfortable like block heel, but you know the block heel isn't really the heel you should wear with it, but you're like, I can't deal with an uncomfortable shoe for seven hours because then I will be unhappy and I want to go home. Well, the last time I had to go to something like that, I left at the first available opportunity.

I don't stay for the whole thing. I don't have that attention span anymore. So I'll do an uncomfortable shoe. But yeah, I've seen some people that are like, oh, I'm wearing burkenstocks under this gown. Well, if the shoes don't show, do it. Yeah. You know. Well, we had bought tickets to no doubt. Oh, okay. Six months ago. And then I get booked to do my live juicy scoop. this past Saturday night. Oh, wow. And it was like a package that my husband bought. So it was Friday, Saturday, and Sunday at the Venetian.

The show was Friday. And I was like, can you sell this package? I think I should be home preparing for this show. No, you couldn't really sell the package. So I'm like, well, then I'll have FOMO if I don't go.

Yeah. I should go to the sphere. But I'm like, I need to save my energy. So I said, I'm going to wear comfortable, stylish sneakers the entire time I'm in Vegas.

There you go. Wow, what a difference. What a difference a comfortable shoe can make in your mood. You're not dying for the night to end. Like I think these young kids that wear like sneakers with their prom dresses and their little homecoming, they are so fucking smart. They're living like they're 55 at 15. I mean, I don't mind a van slip on with a gown. I really don't.

it's kind of cute, kind of edgy or a combat boot or something. Right. But back to no doubt. So you went to Vegas. I went to Vegas. And when did you come home? I drove there Thursday morning with my husband and son. Oh my goodness. I sit in the back

because they're two giants. Okay. So I'm in the back with the dog. We have a dog who is a service animal. She's a trained woman. She's a full job. Okay. And, you know, she, she loves Vegas. It's her first time, but she's, you know, she gets a lot of attention.

Oh, I love that. She wears the vest. She has the paperwork on her backpack. Like, so no one gives us any shit. And she's gorgeous. And so, anyway, so that was fun. And then, so we drove there and went to dinner that night. I was chill.

The next day I worked on the show, putting the show together. And then we went to the concert. And she was great. Really? And the day before, I was like, opened up my phone. So I'm collecting topics and stuff. And I start to see some negative TikToks. Right.

And I'm like, well, I don't even want to look at it. I'm going to be there tonight. Yeah. I think the negativity was like a, I don't know what it was, a paid campaign. I don't know because she was, they were all great. I was thoroughly entertained. She did all the hits, some new stuff, looked amazing. nostalgic

good time. I like the punky Gwen from the 90s. I like that Gwen. She wore all those type of outfits. Love it. Body looked banging. Dancing,

her dancing where she kicks her legs. Yeah. And the visuals looked cool too. Yeah. And then at one time there's oranges that fall from the sky and there's a little soft like orange. So some people got it orange.

I felt it on my head, but I'd grab it. And so it was all, It was really fun. I said definitely go. And so it was a busy week. It was a busy week for me. Do you, I need to tell you the latest that's going on with Summerhouse. So you're not someone who's familiar with Summerhouse. No, but go on. Okay. So on Summerhouse, there's this girl Amanda who was married to Kyle. Okay. They've been on the show for 10 years. Okay. They've had Merrill Palms for years. Okay. Some think it's because he became a DJ. Other people just thought they were a missed match cup. There's this guy West. This is him. Okay. I don't get it, okay, with his looks. It's not my type, okay? It says nothing for me.

Okay. He is now with Amanda. Okay? But prior to being with Amanda, he says this beautiful, beautiful girl, Sierra Miller. Okay. And they were like kind of on and off. And so now she knows that her very good friend Amanda was sleeping with West behind her husband's back. and behind Sierra's back.

So it's like a scandal of all. So over the weekend, a former real housewife of New Jersey named Jen Fessler was asked about this scandal on the red carpet. Okay. And she goes, West is harmless. He's like a golden retriever.

He's sweet. He's fine. No one should worry about him. Sierra then did a post or commented saying, yeah, because the two of you slept together. Jen Fessler is been married for 27 years Fessler, okay that's her

She's been married for 27 years and there's all these videos of them hanging out Wait, is she the one that was She's only on the show for like two years All up in arms about Jersey mics Ooh No Okay

That's Jennifer Aiden who seriously Got canceled and got fired from the show Okay Because she was off of about the Jersey mic people not making her five kids their food quick enough while they got on a flight

on New Year's Day at 7 a.m. So imagine you're the person working at Jersey Mikes on New Year's Day and this bitch is yelling at you, filming it. And the real crime was the order was tuna fish sandwiches.

So she was bringing tuna fish sandwiches on a flight. You bitch. That is why. wrong. And was filming, thinking that all of her fans would be like, you do deserve better, Jennifer Aden. I can't believe that woman who's like 60 didn't make your tuna sandwiches fast enough for your five kids. So this girl is not her. Jen Fessler, pretty harmless, good time, whatever. She's on for two years. Okay. Nothing polarizing about her. Just like, whatever.

So she's on BravoCon. She's hanging out with West. There's many videos than them being flirty and everything. There is a watch what happens live episode where Andy Cohen asks West I heard you slept with a much older woman and he said yes, how old, really old and Andy's like over 60, no, but in the high fives. And next to him is another guy from Summer House named Jesse who's laughing.

Clearly he knows about it. No one knew who it was. It was just he goes, well that's kind of the fun of it. It was weird. It was weird, but it was kind of fun. That's me. This is the swordsman we're talking about like this guy here. Okay.

Okay. He must have a great personality. Or my dad would say a nine inch brain. But so. Okay. So he gets around. He gets around. I think his thing is he makes women feel special.

I think he's one of those guys that is like, whoa, you're out of my league. You're out of my league. I can't believe this is happening me. You're the fucking honest thing. And then you're like, I kind of want to give this charity case the greatest night of their life. Have you ever had a guy like that?

You've been married for so long. I've been married for so long. But you know what I mean? Where it's like not your type. You would never go for them. And they're playing the game of, oh, you know, what would you be doing with a guy like me?

And it's kind of like, well, wait a minute. Yeah. What do you mean? Right. You're perfectly sweet. Yeah. Guys don't understand. Girls, listen to, this is what I tell guys, young men,

all you have to do to get a woman is give them so many compliments. Yes. And let them know that you're the one for them because no one's ever liked them as much as you. Right. And then they finally are like, finally someone gets me. I am this fabulous. And then they wake up five years later and they're like, what happened? What happened?

That I'm just telling you guys can, can, can, can be. very out of their league. They just have to try. They just have to try. Guys aren't trying. The compliment train is a big one. Every girl just wants to compliment. Just compliment the ladies. So I think he was complimenting. I think he was like, you're hot, whatever. Now she said this never happened in social media posts kind of threatening she's going to sue Sierra. you know, but a couple months prior, she had her wedding anniversary happen, Jen Fessler, and said, and I don't care if either one of us sleep with Amanda or West, happy anniversary. Now, is that the craziest coincidence? Is that manifesting mama?

Is that telling on yourself? Is that a conspiracy theory? Is that an Easter egg? That's telling on yourself, basically. Now, when are we going to just say that these reality shows are now human trafficking? Okay? It's human trafficking light because then they all get involved with each other and then, oh, I was on this franchise. Now I need to go to villains or, you know, Summer House or, you know, let's jump out of a plane together, whatever bullshit.

You know, all the rewatch shows and all of this. and then because they just have to keep that fame going and that those paychecks coming. And then it all gets incestuous. And you take a thirsty housewife, who literally was just a housewife. Probably at 15 or younger, she thought, oh, I would die to be Julia Roberts.

But she never even auditioned for a play. Yeah. She is the cutest one in the carpool lane. And then one day she gets a DM. from a casting director who's like, would you like to be considered for her housewife? Right. Cut to a year later,

she's famous, she's getting hair and makeup, she's talking to Annie Cohen, she's walking out at BravoCon like she's a fucking beetle in 1968. And a young West slides into her DMs and it's like, wow, you know,

if you'd even give me the time of day, and this, stuff happens. Now, I don't know who's telling the truth. Jesse could have told Sierra. It could all be to lie West. Could have exaggerated a flirt with a fuck or second base with fourth base. I don't know. But I believe that Sierra received that information. Yeah. Now, whether that information is true or not, I don't know. I think that Jen Fessler wants to stay relevant. and this kind of puts her on the map. And I don't think the husband cares

if she screwed this ugly, dirty West character or not. He could be saying, well, now I've got a free pass to go do what I need to do. Or they just have an arrangement. It doesn't matter. They just don't care. Yeah. He's just like, whatever.

And why, and the thing is, the husband might be going along his day today, this news has been out for four days, and still not know about it. because he actually has a job and a life and is golfing and watching the news. And this isn't on main news. So she doesn't even have to tell him that she's being accused of screwing West. I don't understand.

Yeah. No, I don't like this. I don't like this, Heather. I'm upset. They're having a reunion come up. And apparently Kyle, husband to Amanda, reveals that West has also had a full-blown exclusive relationship with whole other person since February of 2025. Does West have kids all over the place?

No. Okay. Okay. He just... Well, he's got that going for him. Yeah. He at least, you know, is careful about that. Right.

Oh, boy. Okay, now you're up on Real Halfways of Beverly Hills. Yeah. And what was your thoughts of the overall, the overall this season, which really was about Doreet and her divorce and if Kyle put it out there, on the show that she's doing erratic spending and is manic and that would hurt her divorce with now this new news coming out in which P.K. now is spilling all the beans and giving his financials and her financials to this attorney named Ronald Richards who shares it all

basically saying that in a 14-month period, and this is Bravo Snarkside, she put it all together for us, that she, her income is $3.5 million, his is $3 million, but she spent basically a million dollars in a year on just clothes for herself and luxury items. He spent money on the mortgage. She didn't spend any money on the mortgage. Basically, she's making just as much as him, but she's spending it all on herself. Now the house is in foreclosure, and now she and the kids are going to have to move out of the six or seven million dollar house in Encino to go somewhere else. Everyone, this is what's going to happen. She's going to get in a rental and she's never going to be able to own a house again because

she spends like this. And she doesn't want to live in a house that she could buy. So she'll rent something for like $25,000 a month. And she'll end up like Shannon Bador, who still doesn't own a property, who's been on a show for 15 years. No, it was interesting watching her light a match to everything and watch it all explode. Yeah. I mean, that's what it was.

You can't get mad at people noticing how much you spend when it's on camera. Yeah. We've all heard about the mortgage troubles. And then she goes in, you know, in the Hamptons, drops, breaks it up between a couple of cards. Isn't that what she did? Yes. I mean, don't get mad at other people for stating the obvious. Like, when would that have ever been a good thing for you to do?

And then talking smack about P.K. on camera and is drinking and this and that. Like, she got mad at Amanda for bringing that up. But Amanda was right. When does that ever help to slam your, your soon-to-be ex-spouse in front of the whole world? When does that work out well? Do you have an example? No.

Yeah, I mean, she was, and there being, the whole thing is that it's like, how dare you put, listen, you're on the show, women going through divorces. We all talk behind each other's backs, but we also talk about our divorces and our relationships in front of each other. Right.

And rant. So if you were going to never, talk about P.K. You wouldn't be being authentic during a six-month period of filming. So it's like I'm on her side for that. But I'm also on Kyle's side for also being very real. Right. And also, yeah, she right now still has a good relationship with Mauricio

where they have their own weird thing going, where she can go down in Nashville and hang out with Morgan Wade. She actually said, though, in one of the things I watched, she said, that's like if my husband said he no longer has a penis I wouldn't be interested I'm like you're with someone who doesn't have a penis

right what do you care about a penis anyway yeah so I do love that Doree was like I hope it always stays nice between you and Maricio because it most likely won't yeah someone is going to catch feelings for someone

hopefully Maricio got a vasectomy they get someone pregnant that'll really complicate shit but eventually someone's going to be like, you got to get divorced. Yeah. And I get that one really hurts. I totally get the procrastination. I really wanted them to stay married.

I really think they had a good thing going. Yeah. And so it was hard to hear Kyle say, yeah, you know, who knows if we had never moved houses, if we had just stayed. Yes. Being at that level. Yeah. But I'm like, but I think what she really.

means is they would have never been at this level of success had she not taken the show. Right. But putting him on the show, he was for so long a doting adorable husband whose business grew. Right. Somewhere in there, like she said, he could get laid very easily. Yes. When he's opening agencies all over the land. Yeah.

And it started to piss her off. Yeah. She got sober. She became a late in life, Les. Now she would rather go, now I think she's just like, I don't need to be a lesbian. I'd like to go a Lauren Sanchez route. Okay. Oh, okay.

That's what I think. Okay. Maybe not. Interesting. I think she's like, whatever. Uh-huh. And I don't think she's jealous of him without anybody else. Mm-hmm.

But she's like, I just don't want to split up all the shit. shit. Yeah. And I just aren't willing to do it. And a lot of people don't. So it's like, I think that's okay too. And then you have the rest of the whole world being like, do it, file. And it's like, I don't want to. It's, if they've got something worked out, then fine. Yeah. Do it. But I mean, their kids are grown. It's not like, it's just like, remember the, you'll never emotionally fulfill you. Remember the girl with the e-cigarette? Yes. The e-cigarette was before vaping. She was a pioneer. She had that Eve cigarette, the psychic.

And then she was like, once the kids are grown, you'll have nothing in common. She's like the, we've had some good, that psychic and the psychic in Morocco who predicted that Mario was cheating with a blonde to Ramona. Oh, right. And she's like, no. Is it Avery? You're meaning like, is she seeing a little blonde extra girl in there? No, it was this girl. She was blonde.

Two of the psychics got it right. But I think there's something interesting because it's with, I don't know how it becomes that someone is so comfortable spending money on Chanel underwear. Yeah. When they didn't grow up that way. And then all of a sudden they have the money or their husband has the money and they just can't stop. And I think that's like, well, we know shopping is an addiction.

There must be an addiction and also going in, being a famous person, going into the Louis Vuitton stores. Right. And there must be something that gets them wet, knowing that the salesperson is excited to see them. And they're going to make a commission. And they want to get that, I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah. I'm so weird to spend that kind of money. I'm so tight with my money. Yeah. That it gives me a stomach ache to watch people just be so cavalier, especially when their homes in foreclosure. Like your home, like I would do anything not to have to move. Yeah.

Like, what do you do with furniture? What do you do with all your prodda outfits that are stiff and uncomfortable from two years ago? Right. Do you just have the real, real come pick them up? What are you going to do with all those real labeling things? And does it give you anxiety to open up TikTok and see that your exact item is there in China for $112. Well, I'm also, okay, so that's how much money she brings in? I guess so.

From what? Not from the housewives. I think that it must have been from deals, but I don't even see her as someone that does that many brand deals. Yeah. Because she does, she actually put herself at such a high-end level. I don't, I guess she does because there's no way she can make more than a million dollar income from the show.

I'm just, they kind of tap them out around a million, a million, too. Yeah. So, you know, maybe there's some paid gigs here or there or some good deals. Show up at this club and get $10,000 to. But because the clothes are not required for the job. Yeah. I don't know. You know, she can't then write that off or remove that from her salary. Like, I have to look this way.

I mean, I don't know. This whole season was like just long hair extensions hanging into food. So long. So long. So much hair. for the occasion. I was, when they went to Sedona, I was surprised at how much luggage was there.

Oh. Like, Sedona is so hot and miserable. And it seemed like when they went hiking, Erica was the only one that had on like a proper outfit for hiking in, on the Red Rock. I think Erica has become, has had the best trajectory, even though her husband turned out to be a crook.

Yes. and all of it. She has turned out to be the realist one. Yeah, she's owning her shit. But I did have a problem with that one episode where her therapist came and they sat on the couch and she cried without wiping her face.

Well, that TV therapist has been around forever. I mean, because she was useless. She was a TV therapist. It was like, did you just read that off of a fridge magnet? This is not helpful. This woman, is getting sued for so much money. Right.

For you to say, well, you know, sometimes your clothes are folded and sometimes they're not. Like, what the hell are you even talking about? I hope you're not being paid. That's useless. Oh, my God, hilarious. Yeah. So, um, all right. Well, we wish, we wish Dorit the best, but she was very spiky.

What's your prediction for Dorit? Everything you said. She's going to have to move out of that house. She's going to have a rental. What she needs is just like a small little condo that's unobtrusive. That's maybe, I don't know, 5,000 a month. She really needs to scale down, but I don't see her doing that. Yeah.

I see this getting a lot uglier before it gets better. She's very stubborn. Betty Broderick has died in prison. And I have been obsessed with the Betty Broderick story. since my mom first read about it in the LA Times before she did the murder, her own, her own like crazy divorce was like being written about in San Diego. And so she, there's been two made-for-TV movies in which Meredith Baxter Bernie played her. The part she was born to play.

And she was, there's so much to this. I will go deeper. She was, but she was, Thank you. Thank you. Every Wednesday, please subscribe. She, um, then during the divorce,

he gets married to his, who his secretary was that he met when she was 19. She's at her little young 20s. They get married. And what's weird is it seemed like things were okay. She had a dinner party that night. She was still going through

financials with him. She had a boyfriend. But she woke up and she was like, that's it. According to her, I'm going to go to their house. She'd stolen the key from her daughter and stole it. So she had the key to get in the house.

Went into the house like 5 a.m. walked into their room and shot them both. And then went and called her friend and said, I did it. And, you know, immediately was like arrested or turned herself in. and went through like two different trials about it

where one trial, you know, was the defense really said the torture that he put her through and that she was this imperfect mother, did all this stuff. First she put him through medical school, then she put him through law school so he did medical malpractice. And they like had these four kids

and she was the soccer mom, and she was this and she's that. But she was kind of a bitch. and he fell in love with somebody else. But then he financially fucked her because being a lawyer and being a powerful one, he made sure she couldn't get proper representation

all around San Diego. Oh, wow. Okay. And, like, tortured her, but then she also drove a car through their house one day. And, you know, and then she dropped off each kid thinking he wouldn't know how to make

a turkey sandwich for them. And he ended up getting custody of all of them because he was like, we can do it. So now she's alone and she's angry, whatever. So then she gets convicted for life, as she should, and was like, I'm happier in here than being outside with the two of them torturing me. Throughout the years of the four kids, two were like trying to get her out,

saying like she's getting through the end of her life. Could she please live with me? And the other two were more astrayed. But now she got sick. She was 78, died of like septus or something. Oh, wow. And it's just like, it is just like the juiciest, craziest, craziest, saddest story of every, I mean, it just had every element. The wealth, the hot young thing.

Yeah. Who's actually, you know, was probably really nice and good to the kids and probably a great daughter and probably a great sister. but like, you know, you're 19. You're really impressed with a 45-year-old guy that can take you to a nice restaurant and drive you in a Corvette, but then you're like putting yourself at risk because the wife is so psycho.

Oh, man. Well, Betty. And she never did any other, like, interviews. People were always reaching out to her over the years. And she was like, no, I'm good. Yeah, I guess what is there to say, you know, after a certain point? So she, yeah, so anyway, rest in peace, Betty.

What do you think of Real Housewives of Rhode Island? So they all look alike. Yes. Except for this one who looks like Dolores. There's a Dolores look alike. This other creator mentioned that we like it because Joellen reminds us of Teresa. Okay. She's over here right here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this one, Alicia kind of looks like Carol Razzuel from New York. Yes, she does. They all are just like, I mean, it is hard. They all look a lot of like. Yeah, they're all very specific looking. Yeah. And I don't know if that's a Rhode Island thing.

The fashions are a little nutty. Yeah. I like the homes. That's what I like. The homes are beautiful. I like the real wealth. Yeah. I like the real wealth of the big ass homes with the grass lawns overlooking the sea.

Overlooking the sea. Yes. Oh, I'm going to take the Duffy. I'm going to take the boat over across the way to go have lunch with what's or nuts, okay? Yeah. The one who is, who got mad because someone said that she was dating or polygamous or whatever. Oh, the one who is a, she was a sugar baby for 10 years. Yeah.

And her sugar daddy lets her live in this mansion by herself with her housekeeper. But you're not supposed to mention that. Yeah. But he has some other girlfriend in Miami. So then he lets her have like a West kind of look-alike blonde boyfriend come to like parties with her. That she's like, this is my boyfriend. Yeah.

But then now in the show, I guess they've broken up. So now she has to move out of the mansion. She and Doree to just get a little apartment together. You know what? A Kate and Allie situation. Yes. Yes. I would absolutely watch that show.

Kate and Alley, for those you don't know, it was. such a good idea for a sitcom absolutely could be redone today. Yes. If you're looking to reboot something, people, reboot it. To divorced moms and their kids, they get together and they're going to make it work. I bet there's a bunch of, I wonder how many women have done that. It's actually a great idea. It's not a bad idea.

It really isn't. Yeah. It makes so much sense. Along with having Jen Xers move into malls in their old age, that makes sense. me. I want to see where that's happening. Wait, are they, wait, is that a real thing? Are they making senior citizens homes out of old malls? Well, is there a spender's? Someone has kind of floated the idea past people, but I think there is one that is up and operating and people, the residents are on the top floor. Okay. And then they're shopping in the bottom. Oh, but there's still active

shopping. It's like ghost town. Okay. No, no. But that makes sense to me. Yeah. Like, why would you get rid of these structures? Yeah. I miss a mall. I miss a fine shopping experience. I have to go all the way to South Coast Plaza if I want that. But I miss like going to the mall. I know. And that makes sense. Like if there's a gym nearby, obviously you can get your coffee down here. You got to run to CVS, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like it seems convenient. Yeah, yeah. But all that to say, these gals, they dress funny. Yeah. It's like what are these Windsor fashions? Yes. What is like the jewel the bedazzled stuff. Yes, this one. It makes no sense. Yeah. I think just because it's, they're not really like, because I would think a normal person who grew up in Rhode Island would be very old money East Coast, you know, which aesthetic like just quality trousers. Yeah, let's get a wool trouser. Yeah. Let's put on a sweater. A cashmere sweater won't kill you. Yeah. But these, these hot

pink things with the ruffles and shit. But I also think the people that truly are Rhode Island money, old money, they're not going to go on this show. That's true. So they had to cast a bunch of weirdos they found on Instagram. Yeah. That are thirst buckets that need, you know, that need a salary. It's, they all seem to have very interesting love lives. Like, yes. Oh,

I've been with this one for 12 years. We haven't gotten married yet. That Alicia is like, yeah. So I mean, I live. with him for a really long time and I kid a woman with my car but she lived. Remember that? She said she said she had a woman with her car, but we never got the full story. And then she's like, but I don't know how much money's in the bank. Yeah, I don't control any of my own money. Yeah. And I'm not married to the guy that controls it. Like, okay, that's a choice. And then she's, then we have the Ruella who does have money, married to the podiatrist, who's having an affair with the girl that works or sells the items for the Medi Spa.

Yeah. And he tells her to sign an NDA, but then she posted on Instagram a photo of her and he, or Facebook with her on his lap. And so then Joellen tells, then he goes to sue the mistress. Like, you were supposed to fuck me and stay quiet. Then they, then he also got arrested.

That's a kick in the tits. He's trying to sue his mistress. Yes. And then this is what I read. And then he, allegedly, and then Ruella somehow finds out that he'd put a tracking device in her car. So he got arrested for that. But as of now, they're still together. And then Joellen's sister seems to be putting the moves on her husband.

Because they used to date in high school. Or they're playing that up for the canvas. Yeah. Yeah. That's gross. So do we like it from one to ten? Listen, I was watching this because I was recovering from my. my snatch up, okay? And I was awake at weird times.

So that's why I got into this. I don't know if I will finish it. Yeah, that's the way I feel about that. It's kind of the way I feel about London, too. I did watch it, but I don't know how I feel about it long term. And then the Mormon wives, I was watching that. And I just, it seems like that's just a pathway to Chicago. To be on Chicago.

To be on Chicago is to get. into a reality show and then you get to play Roxy Heart. God. Because didn't Ariana play? Did you ever want to be Roxy Heart? Oh yes. Back before it, I mean, 25 years ago when it started.

No, no, no. Yeah. I could do it as well as some people. Right. But, well, Taylor Frankie Paul wrote a long thing. It's Mother's Day and Boohoo and it's so long. and she's mad because the other girl is talking about her,

Michaela, who has a skin condition. And then she says, let's see, have you been in trouble for getting ready, two months postpartum that you cry off all your makeup and return to an ugly t-shirt? Can you even understand what I'm saying just from a psychological point? No, clearly not.

It's being used as an analogy to a rash cream. You heard one side and you never call me after. in fact, ignored me twice. It's this really long thing. And the first comment was, you're lucky enough to get your son, who you're sharing with the other guy, who got taken from you

because you were throwing bar stools at him for Mother's Day. And this is how you choose to spend your mother's day. The social media stuff is just like, I'm like, if you would just put your freaking phone down. Speaking of which, the comeback, she does Roxy Heart. That was funny. That was so genius. Yeah.

That she just was not getting that whole puppet thing. Right. Yeah. Have you ever worked with Lisa Kudrow? No, I never have. I've always wanted to. I think she's so genius. Yeah.

And I love the comeback. I wish they didn't go so long between seasons. Yeah. You know, every eight years we drop. Every 10. Oh, is it 10? And they're saying this is really, really, really the last one. Right.

No. No. More, please. I like it. You never know what she might do. I love that you did this interview. Enjoying Joyce embarrassing herself. Did you hear about this guy suing this woman at J.P. Borgon? No. Okay, this is a crazy story. So there's this woman who works at J.P. Morgan. She's an attractive blonde like 35. This guy is saying that he was, her sex slave unwillingly. And he is suing she and J.P. Morgan. And in his lawsuit, which some lawyer has agreed to take,

they're denying it. They're saying it's not true. They're saying they did an investigation. And her face is everywhere. And his face, then after it all came out, and he's like, I'd like to make it private. But he basically is saying that this woman would, you know, was racist. He's, looks like he's, you know, of Indian descent. She would call him, like, racist names. And also he claimed that she would give him Viagra and Roofied him. So I guess he'd be asleep with like a heart on. Okay.

Or she could take advantage of him. And she said, you know, if you don't do what I say, you're not going to be promoted. But then in investigating it, they find that they were at the same level. and that he said that she was like, how do you like these cannons? You like these cannons in your face? And that was the first thing that people are like, I call BS.

What woman refers to their own tits as cannons? They don't. They don't. But also, again, I don't want to blame the victim here. Yes. But all these things happened, and they kept being in the same place at the same time. Like, how did he get into her,

bedroom. It was like happening at the office. So she's roofing him at the office? I mean, it was just... I don't understand. And... I'm... Yeah.

And then... Not buying it. I don't know. Then I saw something that appeared to be from like his high school graduation, like, you know, in the tucks. Okay. And, you know, so many things are fake and I don't know. But it said his quote was something.

about canons. Again, telling on yourself, are you Notre Dameus or are you telling on yourself? Because that is a word that you used your whole life. All I know is I'm going home today and I'm going to get in Greg's face and be like, how do you like these cannons in your face? And then I'm going to get me some because that's seductive. Canons. Yeah. And it's just like it was, it's very, bizarre. And then, you know, she's staying silent probably because they're like, just don't defend yourself, don't talk about. I just think what I want to see is when this eventually is dismissed or whatever, then I want to have her do an interview and be like, yeah, what happened there? Yeah, like how awful. Like if someone just said an incredible

story about me that just wasn't at all true. Yeah. Which I guess she and maybe she and Jen Fessler can get together. I don't know. But, you know, it's such a hard thing because it's like if you go publicly and defend yourself, then does that keep the story going on longer? You just want it to be forgotten, you know? Or then someone, but then people are like, if you're not defending yourself, like, then it must be true. I don't know. Yeah, that's a good point because if someone's saying something terrible, all you want to do is clear it up and say, I would never, ever, ever do X, Y, and Z. Right.

But then I guess the flip side of that coin is if you keep feeding into it, if you kind of ignore it, it will go away. Yeah. And let the other person just kind of tattle on themselves. Right. Because they always do. But that takes a lot of restraint. And I don't know if I'd be able to do it. Now that we are concluded that the Blake lively versus Justin Beldonie thing is over, they

settled. Don't got any money but the lawyers. You made $60 million. What was your, what's your overall opinion of that now that it's over with? It seemed like they were playing chicken with each other up until the very last minute. And listen, I'm glad they had the money to do that with those lawyers. But I don't think it's good for either one. Yeah. I don't think it's good for either one. They're both going to suffer. She especially is going to suffer. Would you have any qualms about working with either one of them? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. What do you think will happen with them? Like, what would be your advice if you're friends with either one of them at this point? I mean, Justin, I think, is there any money left for him to live?

You know, she's married to Ryan Reynolds. He's got all these things going, all these other little partner of the Wayfarer. He was the partner, the way I understand it, who is a billionaire, was the one that was like, oh, hell to the dough. Okay. And that's they, it was he that was like, we will do this counter suit when she first accused him of. Yeah. I, I would, if, if that were me, I wouldn't want to play this game anymore. I wouldn't want to produce movies. I wouldn't want to do anything. I would just be like, you know what? Maybe Costco's hiring. Yeah. I would be so disheartened by the whole thing. Like, all we wanted to do was make a good movie and it turned into this. So I don't know. It is so interesting with someone who had, has success. Like, I came across like a video.

And remember that girl, Lila Sibiski? Oh, Lili Sobieski. Yes. Yeah. She looked like a young mad about you. What was that girl that was a man? Helen Hunt. She looked like a young Helen Hunt. And I come across and they're like, what happened to her? And I was like, oh my God, you're right. She, like, was in all these big movies, everyone just, she's getting so many opportunities. And I was like, what happened? And it just was like, she just was like, I'm good. There wasn't anything bad that happened, or maybe there was.

We don't know. Yeah. She's married. She has kids. And now she's like a professional painter. Respect. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I think that's great. When people can say, look, I did it. I conquered, you know, I climbed. you know, I climbed that mountain and I got sick of it. I didn't want to do it anymore. I wanted to have more control over my life. I get it. I think it's really hard for people to think that you'd ever, because I think people see the pinnacle. Right. Being that you're a wanted actress that you're working, that you, it wasn't like the offer stopped coming. Like she was still young. It was just like, you're right. She's like, I've been to all the things. Yeah. And maybe I don't really like it. Maybe it did come too easy. And she's, She did it all and she was exhausted by it and was like, I'm good. Kind of like Bridget Fonda. I have to say, it gets really boring when you're sitting on a set, far from home, you know. I mean, if you work a 12-hour day, you maybe spend three hours of it acting.

Yeah. The rest you're sitting around. Right. You know, and trying to keep busy playing Angry Birds. I mean, I played Angry Birds. I mean, I played Angry Birds on a movie thing until I damn near went blind. I was so bored. Do you try to like, do you try to discipline yourself so that you aren't on your phone for 14 hours?

Yes, but then it just goes back to that because. Just goes back to A&Roberts. Well, it goes back to what's happening in the world. I've been locked away all day long. I have no idea what time it is, you know, or what's happening in the world. but I can see why people would get irritated. Would you ever do a reality celebrity thing that's not just like a one-off, not just like Hollywood squares, like, you know, special forces or dancing with the stars

or for two weeks you're locked in a house, no phone? I couldn't do the locked in the house thing. I couldn't do that. Special forces looked interesting, but no. Dancing with the stars, maybe. Yeah. Um, yeah, I don't know. Doesn't that also make you worried about the physicality of it all?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I also think like your body will never be better, but I also just think like, oh. Well, then don't you have to tour after that, too? What about traitors? No, I don't think so. I don't think you have to tour unless you want to. Okay, okay.

I think, wait, does Sharge really go tour? I think they do. No, I think just the dancers do it with, like, each other. Huh. I thought some of the others did it too, but maybe it's just if you want to. But what about traders? You wouldn't do traders? Traders would be the easiest, funnest one, I think. Really? I don't think so.

I don't think so. No. Yeah. But who knows? Who can say? Yeah. Who can say? I like the acting bits, not the rest of it. You have done so much, of course. I played your bridesmaids. in a Reno 101. Reno 911.

And that show came out. You guys did separate movies and then it came back. And we cranked out two more movies. And now what? I don't know. I've been talking to Tom Lennon and like I have an idea. Yeah, one of the creators.

And the star of it. Yeah. Dangle plays Jim Dangle in the shorts. Short shorts. I have an idea for something that. I want to see if he likes. But then, you know, verticals are a big deal now. Right.

Yeah. And that's where people can watch a whole series on their phone like you would a TikTok video. Yeah. Right. And I don't know if you've ever watched these series, but some of them are, most of them are terrible. Uh-huh.

But hilariously so. So we were talking about, well, if they can be terrible, I've got lots of terrible ideas. Shouldn't we do this too? Like, the production values are awful. It seems like the business model is, here's $10,000. Okay. You got a week to come up with some crap.

Okay. And all it is is, you know, eight minutes and we're going to divide it up into episodes. Yeah. Well, how hard can that be? Right. You know? And then I start seeing, like, Tay Diggs has a vertical thing coming out. I think Peacock might be working on verticals.

well if they're all going to be terrible i want in i've got some terrible ideas come on let's go you know well i'm excited for your terrible ideas to make it to my phone wendy where can they follow you you're an active cat mom i'm an active cat mom um on instagram that's really the only place you can find me yeah yeah thank you so much for coming Thank you for having me. So good. Thanks. Bye.