Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Who Killed Jon Benet Ramsey and is Lyle Menendez a Cheater?

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Watch me host The American Reality TV Awards this Friday on Roku! Shwartz and Sandy’s is closing. What does that mean for the future of Vanderpump Rules? Lyle Menendez has a 21-year-old girlfriend,... a prison boyfriend and wife. Will the Menendez Brothers be released? Kanye is sued again. Mormon MomTok drama heats up. A New Jon Benet documentary is out. Is Andy Cohen making up with former housewives to save the franchise? Lizzo is skinny. Then we have a new segment, “What Would Heather Do?” Where I answer your friendship, marriage, coworker and parenting questions. Enjoy! • Join the 17 million members who are already saving! Start all of your holiday shopping at https://Rakuten.com or download the Rakuten app to start saving today, your Cash Back really adds up! • There’s a limited supply available, so head to https://mycuire.com  to get your leather care kit today. • Get Up to 50% OFF @honeylove by going to https://honeylove.com/JUICY ! #honeylovepod • For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to https://Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code JUICYSCOOP. Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald on iTunes, the podcast app, and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPodApple  https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:32 Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales. Her real life business ain't been serial data and serial systems.
Starting point is 00:01:50 You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Woo woo. Hannah McDonald. Yeah. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I'm welcome to Juicy Scoop.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I'm coming to you from La Quinta, California in the Palm Desert, Palm Springs area because I am hosting about 30 people for Thanksgiving here in a couple days, but I am so excited. All my kids are coming, Kinsey, Drake's already here helping me. Brandon's coming home from Oregon in a couple days. So I'm very excited, but I wasn't gonna leave
Starting point is 00:02:27 my Juicy Scoopers without any juice, which is why one of my favorite Patreon episodes dropped Friday. It was a little different. It's a very juicy interview with my friend Gage, and then we also brought in Dr. Drew, because it's about co-parenting. In Hollywood is really the theme of the episode and it sparked a lot of conversation and that's
Starting point is 00:02:49 available on Patreon right now. And you just go to patreon.com slash juicy scoop and join. Also once you join, we'll have instructions on there coming soon about how to make sure that you have your correct address there so that you can get our personal family Christmas card. Okay, I also wanna remind you guys that the day after Thanksgiving, my reality TV lovers can watch the American Reality TV Awards, which I hosted.
Starting point is 00:03:18 You heard me talk about it. I have many different looks, but really so many great stars. I'm excited to see it because I was running backstage changing because I came out five different times. But it was just all the reality stars, the biggest reality stars. We had JoJo Siwa presenting, we had Tamra Judge,
Starting point is 00:03:37 Sutton made an appearance from Real House as a Beverly Hills, Omarosa, Kendra Wilkinson, and really fun things throughout the night. My friends who came said the show was great. I want to tell you you're going to be able to watch that on Friday, Black Friday. That's November 29th, and you can see it on the Roku channel, Pluto TV, Zoomo Play. All of it is right here. I remember to subscribe to my YouTube because I have the photos here too on the YouTube
Starting point is 00:04:08 and we spent a lot of time to make that special for the people that want to watch it, but I need you to subscribe. Like and share. Okay, sad news, interesting news. Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz of Vanderpump Rules, also co-owners of Schwartz and Sandys. That was their own restaurant that does not involve Lisa Vanderpump. Of course, they're part of TomTom, but they have a much smaller ownership in that. This was the restaurant we saw in Vanderpump that they spent so much time really having
Starting point is 00:04:38 a unique decorative vibe. Some people wondered about its success based on its location. I feel like TomTom and Pump and Sir did really well because you could go on a little pub crawl there. It's right there in West Hollywood. It's easy, walkable. West Hollywood is known for the gay bars, but also it's just such a fun place. It has so many great dining options. And so that was a great location.
Starting point is 00:05:06 They went into a different part of LA, which is still really nice, but it's not like a pub crawl situation. And I always wonder if that is what might've been the issue with it, you know, being successful, then kind of dipping when the show wasn't on the air. And then of course, one scandal of all happened.
Starting point is 00:05:24 People, you know, said boy then, of course, when Scandival happened, people said, boycott Schwartz and Sandys and all this other stuff. We hate Tom Sandival. Then they filmed again, and people started going back there. And well, they are closing it. They are closing it, and they both made a statement. I read Tom Sandival's first, which was kind of interesting. He said, it's with a heavy heart.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's always with a heavy heart. We made the difficult decision to close Schwartz & Sandys at the end of December. Then he goes on to say some things. He said, we'll be hosting a series of events and have availability to host other things leading up to the closing nights, but the allure of being associated with reality TV has hidden what is an amazing spot and location for LA locals as well. I highly recommend you check us out, especially if you haven't yet. Let's get together one last time.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's sad because I feel like even if they have the most incredible December, I don't know that they can stay open. They've made this statement, so it sounds like this is really done. There is a lot of talk if Vanderpump will come back at all or with what cast. I don't think this is a great sign for it coming back. I could see it not coming back and just some of the favorite players going on the valley because you know Lisa's has her places in Nevada her and the one pump has closed and it just I don't know maybe it is time maybe things can't last forever but they do do other things and they are tv personalities they were both so delightful to
Starting point is 00:07:00 me when I went to the Vanderpump Dogg gala. Tom Sandoval was with his girlfriend who seemed very nice, very pretty. Tom Schwartz is just one of the nicest, most delightful guys. I would really like to see him do some other things. He's just a very genuine, nice person. He's never been on Juicy Scoop,
Starting point is 00:07:20 but I think he's good looking and charming, and I could see him doing other things in TV. So hopefully, you know, other things will come through it. But we all know, most people should know how hard a restaurant is to do. I think it's one of the hardest businesses. So, you know, there you go with that. Also, when I was there,
Starting point is 00:07:38 Tom Schwartz was like giving a lot of people free drinks and I told him that. I'm like, Tom, you should, I mean, it's one thing to give me a free drink, but please, like people that you don't know, he's just like drinks on me and da da da. And I said that when I saw him before I knew it was closing, I'm like, maybe stop giving everybody so many drinks for free. Maybe that would be more profitable. But he, that's the kind of guy he is. He's just sort of nice and delightful. Um, okay. Oh, and then, yeah, and then Tom Schwartz, Okay. Oh, and then, yeah, and then Tom Schwartz, he did his too, and his was more like, come on, come to have your holiday parties here, have your, you know, funeral for your pet
Starting point is 00:08:13 lizard, whatever, we've got it going. And it just, I don't know, it just kind of made me sad. Well, let me tell you the latest with the Menendez brothers. You guys, this is a big day. So we might have a decision when you listen to this right now. We don't. So their attorney is Mark Garagos. Mark Garagos is a very famous attorney. He also represented Scott Peterson in the Lacey Peterson case in his trial. He has now come forward to help them to get the charges, the conviction from premeditated first degree murder to manslaughter. If he's able to convince the judge of that, then the time would have been already time served. They've already been in there for 35 years. That would have satisfied that. Thus, maybe they could get out by Christmas.
Starting point is 00:09:04 That's the whole thing. But the judge has to look at it, and then if he says, yes, I think this is a compelling case, then they'll come back December 11th with Mark Garagos, and he's gonna bring in six witnesses, many from the prison, to show what an exemplatory life they've led behind bars, helping people. They have college degrees from UC Irvine,
Starting point is 00:09:26 all these things. Saying, you know, this is why they should be let out because they're not going to be a danger to society. And so that'll be very interesting to see. Our DA, Garcon, who is now got voted out, he very much wants it. So I don't know if it's gonna have take effect with the new guy, but that's what's happening. But the juice is about Lyle Menendez's love life. So for those of you that I have talked about this many
Starting point is 00:09:55 times, I will quickly remind you of the story of Lyle Menendez. He is the older brother of Eric. Eric has been married to his wife for like 20 something years, 25 years or something. Her name's Tammy. Tammy has a daughter from a previous relationship, a previous marriage, and that guy is no longer alive. And then in that she connected with Eric. And so her daughter only knows Eric as her father. They move close to the prison and they visit him all the time. There is no conjugal visits for the level of convict
Starting point is 00:10:32 that they are in California. So these people have never had sex, but it appears that in the photos and stuff, they can hug, they can take a photo, they can like talk and hang out. So he has his wife. His older brother Lyle is divorced. He was married to a girl named Anna Menendez.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Anna Menendez was shocked when she found out after marrying him because she fell in love with him watching court TV. This girl came from Chicago, was living with a struggling actor whom I met, and every day he came home from not getting an acting job, he'd see that she was watching court TV. And then one day Lyle Minnitz called from prison and said, put my girlfriend on the
Starting point is 00:11:11 phone. And he's like, what? And I jokingly said, well, you know, he's on TV and you're not. So maybe that's why your girlfriend was so starstruck by being with Lyle. She marries him, finds out many years into it that he is seeing other women, meaning they're coming to visit him. He's corresponding with him. She found out he was cheating on her in that way. They get divorced. Then he meets this girl, Rebecca. Rebecca and Tammy have been working together, hoping that there's a chance that they could one day be with their husbands outside of prison. Now we're so close to this happening
Starting point is 00:11:51 and Rebecca has filed, well not filed, she announced her separation from him because he has a new girlfriend. Lyle has a new girlfriend. She's 21. He is like 55 or 6 or something. She's 21. She's British. Came over here. They have taken photos in the prison-like area. Here they are.
Starting point is 00:12:18 She's a cute blonde. And they're supposedly in love. But then Daily Mail and Raider Online are also reporting that he has another lover, a guy named Chino. Chino's been in the prison and they've been going on, they've had this going on for two years allegedly. People in the prison say they're cuddle buddies, they sleep in the same bunk,
Starting point is 00:12:42 and he, according to the people in the prison, Lyle is the woman, per se, in the relationship. So I don't know how Cheena feels about Rebecca or this British girl, or what's going to happen to Cheena if, in fact, Lyle gets out. And I wonder if any of this stupid news will make anyone feel less or more sympathetic to the plight of Lyle and Eric getting out, you know, being that he's a cheater, being that does that mean he's really a liar, you know. Did he ever lie or exaggerate about anything that went on that maybe caused him to kill
Starting point is 00:13:19 the parents? But there we are. This was interesting and I just heard about this, it popped up, but this guy did a YouTube video. He said he was, his name is Choke No Joke. And he went to Jamie, according to him, he said I went to Jamie Foxx's standup, which is going to be a Netflix special.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And he said in the taping—they did like three tapings, and he said he was there—that Jamie Foxx said, I'm the one who called the FBI on Diddy because he poisoned me. And I guess a couple other people that have been in the audience have attested to this. Is this true? Is this a joke? Was it a throwaway something? Is it going to really make the special? Is the goal to have it get out, have us thinking, is this really going to be it? Or was it never said and it's being put out there so we make sure
Starting point is 00:14:17 we watch it the moment it airs? Kind of like Chris Rock's Netflix special was done live and that was the first and only time we had any video of him talking about when he was slapped by Will Smith. And I wonder if, you know, if he never practiced that in front of anybody. If I was going to drop a bomb like that on my special, I wouldn't be doing it, you know, a couple months before at the Irvine Improv for five times in front of thousands of people. I wouldn't be doing that. Is that true? We never really knew what happened with Jamie Foxx's health care or what. But he was recently in Atlanta and he was also singing karaoke with Real Housewives. So who knows? The point is he's healthy, he's doing good,
Starting point is 00:15:05 he's got a Netflix special coming out. What he knows about Diddy, I don't know. But I mean, that would be pretty juicy, if in fact he really is saying that joke or not. This model is saying that she was hired to work on a music video and Kanye was very gross in the way he described her. He's like, she's Asian.
Starting point is 00:15:26 He's like, I want that Asian girl right there. And then he was like sticking his fingers down her throat and she was scared and violated. Now, this was like 10 years ago, but that's one lawsuit. He's got the other lawsuit from the previous assistant. We've gone through that one who said that she was prohibited all these weird texts from him that he would send to her about Bianca and wanting to follow Bianca and wanting to follow Kim Kardashian and then tormenting her saying like, oh, I actually drugged you this one night.
Starting point is 00:15:57 We got together. All these things. So there's all these different lawsuits now against Kanye as well. I don't know if he'll be at Kardashian Christmas. I don't know if Scott will be there either. I won't be there. You know I got the boot. Okay, anyway, because I talk about stuff like this, who cares? The Juicy Scoopers are worth it. You deserve all the juice, which is sometimes when people, when I put out juice, whether it's here on Patreon, people will be like, I don't know why she did this. I don't know. Given the
Starting point is 00:16:22 opportunity, don't you want to hear the juice? Aren't I doing my job? Okay, this is very sad. So Liam Payne was buried. He had his funeral. But there's really more to this story. And according to TMZ and their investigators, they believe this is what happened.
Starting point is 00:16:43 So yes, Liam Payne was probably most likely, you know, on drugs. We know he was on drugs. We know he was on alcohol. And according to witnesses, he was acting erratically in the lobby of this hotel. Three men that worked at the hotel were probably instructed to remove him and put him in his room and they did that. And when they put him in his room, they allegedly locked him in there so he couldn't get out. And then even one person then called the police and said, we're worried about this guy. He's in his room and there's a balcony there and we're worried about him. When he was found, so then we know that he jumped off his balcony. At first people thought it was suicide.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Other people thought it could have been like a psychotic break brought on by maybe some type of hallucination drugs or something. But now people believe that was never his intention to end his life. And then he was somewhat coherent because when he was found, he had a backpack on with items. And also there was another bag found on the balcony right below him that had whiskey and some pills, and it actually said for Liam. So the thought is, was he attempting to jump down
Starting point is 00:18:00 to the next balcony, get that, get out, because according to his friends, he has like a real issue with being trapped in a room and happened on tour at One Direction. And he felt very, you know, he just doesn't like that confinement. It also happened somewhere else where he actually did successfully manage to go down
Starting point is 00:18:21 and escape a room and get out by going outside the building or on a balcony. So now they're wondering, that may have not been his intention at all, but whose fault is it? Is it the three guys that were just the workers that were told, this guy's freaking out, get him in his room until we can get authorities here? Is it the person that sold him the drugs? Is it the people he was hanging out with the night before?
Starting point is 00:18:47 It sounds like it was just a lot of horrible series of events, but it definitely doesn't, to me, sound like it really was like a suicide or anything like that, very sad. This is very sad too, and very bizarre, juicy crime here. This girl was traveling from Hawaii and she stopped in LA and she had a quick layover and she was supposed to get on a plane to go to New
Starting point is 00:19:11 York to visit her aunt. She never made the flight. Her name's Hannah. This was a few weeks ago in November. She never made the flight to, never got on the plane. Never used her LA ticket. For the first couple days that she was missing, never used her L.A. ticket. For the first couple days that she was missing, people in her life received very weird text messages that didn't really seem like her, but she said, I think someone's trying to take my identity, weird stuff is happening, things like that, and she has not been found.
Starting point is 00:19:41 So her dad came out from Hawaii, and they were really, they claimed that they feel like the LAPD has not been giving this enough attention. They don't know if she was traffic kidnapped or what. But you know with the weird or did someone have her phone and writing weird text messages and why does it really sound like it was in her voice or was it in fact her? We don't know. We don't know where she is. Very sadly her dad came out here and they say they believe he also has ended his life by jumping out of a parking structure at LAX. And I don't know enough details, but that seems very weird. I wonder, is there surveillance cameras showing that he willingly did this? Or was he maybe followed?
Starting point is 00:20:26 Did he finally find out something about her? Anyway, her name is Hannah and we don't know where she is. Very sad. Guys, it's that time. It's holiday shopping. We've got so much to do, so many things to buy. And Rakuten is the best way to save lots of money this holiday season because you can stack holiday sales and deals on top of cash back to maximize your savings at over 3,500 stores. Stores will be at the highest cash back rates of the year, all the way up to 15% cash back
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Starting point is 00:23:27 They all have long locks and healthy skin, and they don't drink alcohol. They don't have coffee. They are allowed soda pop. I guess it doesn't have caffeine, but they do screw other people's husbands. That part, okay. They can do that.
Starting point is 00:23:43 They can get divorced, and they can do soft soft swinging or maybe it's not full penetration, but they have fun with each other. And they were doing videos as cute 20 something young moms and then they started to swing. And Taylor was it because she was the one that went and did a TikTok and said, all right, you guys, I guess it's out there. And it really wasn't out there. It was probably just on some of these smaller subgroups of gossip, you right, you guys, I guess it's out there. And it really wasn't out there. It was probably just on some of these smaller subgroups of gossips, you know, and she felt I better just address it on TikTok. Cause I feel like if she never had,
Starting point is 00:24:12 well, we wouldn't have a show to watch, that's for sure. Cause that's what sparked the show. And she comes out and says, yeah, and explains the whole story. She since has done many interviews of how it went about, but she was hanging out with this girl and this girl, Sammy, Sam's life. She broke down the latest thing. So then the show starts. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I'm like, okay, I'm watching it. Going,
Starting point is 00:24:38 which one of these girls was a swinger too? Whose husband did this Taylor like make out with or go to third or fourth base with? I don't know. None of them did. They were sort of cast. The real players in it that also messed around, they weren't in it. They either didn't wanna be in it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Well, now that one of the girls has come out and she's done a five part series on TikTok and she basically is you know, is telling her side of the story. So then Taylor pops back in and shares that this girl, her name's Kenna, who was part of this swinging. And what Taylor has said is the way the soft swinging started, it really started soft. First, they actually had some cocktails. Okay, so they would get a little drunk. Then they would start spinning the bottle, starting with just girls kissing each other.
Starting point is 00:25:36 So the husbands would sit back and be like, you guys kiss. Then they'd be like, why don't you guys kiss in lingerie? Then they'd be like, why don't we all like make out on the bed together with our respective spouses? Then why don't we swap spouses and just like dry hump in like chairs staring at each other? Then a couple of the guys got caught feelings for Taylor and was like, I want to see you more, you know, and writing you. So anyway, this girl, so Taylor shares a text from this girl kinda saying, hope you're having fun in Moab, I'm drunk and wish I was kissing you.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And then Taylor also shows a video of her dancing. Now her body's perfect, she had her third kid or whatever, and her body's perfect again, and she's like doing her butt lift, and then she has a video of them kissing. So I'm like, wow, this show has already gotten a green light. How happy are those producers? So it's already going to come to a second season.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Is this girl, who's probably divorced as well, trying to hop on this? Why is she coming out with this now? She probably wants to be on the show and realizing I could be a lot more interesting than these non-swinging Mormons. Also I guess Taylor was doing something at the CMAs and she posted this whole thing. When you go to the CMAs and none of your mom talk friends congratulate you and then all
Starting point is 00:27:00 the other girls started sending and posting the times that they did text her and say, oh, you look great. You're doing great. And they're like, oh, I guess unless I only congratulate her online publicly, it doesn't count. So listen, welcome to reality TV, you swinging Mormons. Who Killed John Benet Ramsey? This is a new doc, a three-part doc.
Starting point is 00:27:28 It airs today. Well, you can already watch it because it will have aired Monday, November 25th. We all have people that are home or around, and if you are a family that likes to watch documentaries about murder, as I do, it's real fun when you have someone like my sons and daughter who may not know the story like I know it. One of my frustrations with all these docs is I'm like, God, can someone just do a doc on something I don't have complete, you know, extended knowledge of, like back when I watched everything, when it was happening with John Bonet, I did it.
Starting point is 00:28:09 To remind you, this is this little girl who came from a wealthy family. She had a brother. I think she had older steps and siblings as well, but her mom and dad were married and she had a brother who was a few years older than she and she was six and she was in pageants. This is before toddlers and tiaras got going. This was, people were just starting doing pageants. I found it fascinating. I had nieces and nephews that did the pageants and And it was an interesting vibe of how much it cost
Starting point is 00:28:47 and do all this stuff. So when she passed, which was horrible, so she was murdered on Christmas day, the family found her and there's a lot to it. They originally thought the parents had something to do with it. There was a long ransom note that they found that was like three pages long.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And in the investigations that I remember seeing on 2020 and Dateline and all these different docs, the handwriting experts believe that it was way too similar to the mother. The mother has since passed of cancer. They always claim they were totally innocent in it and that somebody must have broken into the home, kidnapped their daughter in the middle of the night, assaulted her, and then they found her in their basement within that day of not waking up that morning, Christmas morning, she's not in her bed, they didn't know where she was, they found her that day. There was another documentary that was done a few years ago, and I actually interviewed the people that did it.
Starting point is 00:29:47 They had to do a cease and desist. They couldn't talk about it. There was some big lawsuit that came from the Ramses because they believed that the boy—they concluded, these, like, forensic FBI specialists that go deep into the John Bonet murder, they believe that the son killed her like a nine-year-old. They believed that she—that he must have gotten frustrated with her because there were times when he got frustrated with her before. There were witnesses that say he hit her head with a golf club, that he was kind of a violent kid, he was annoyed by his sister, and they believed that maybe she was eating his food
Starting point is 00:30:29 or something because there was pineapple found in her stomach, and that's what pissed him off, and he did something that was a fatal blow, and then the parents, or at least the mother, covered it up with the ransom note and that situation. Also because the morning that they came, because she didn't know where her daughter was
Starting point is 00:30:49 on Christmas morning, she was wearing her same clothes from the Christmas Eve the night before. She said, I just threw on my clothes. That was the first thing I put on, but it was like a fancy outfit. She wasn't in her pajamas. Was she up all night to cover this up? Would you protect one child that didn't
Starting point is 00:31:06 mean to harm your other? So that was a big discussion. But the son, who's now grown, they filed some lawsuit or something saying, this is not true. I can't believe this is out there. There's no proof to it, whatever. So now this other documentary, which is three parts, is really going down the road of the police didn't do
Starting point is 00:31:28 their job, that the mom and dad were never responsible, and why aren't they looking at all these other weird people that were suspects all these years? And, you know, but I've already seen online and stuff, people already seeing, reminding us of all the discrepancies and now what the dad is saying in this documentary versus what he has said in numerous interviews before. Like the day that they found her within an hour, they called their private pilot to fly
Starting point is 00:32:03 to their house in Atlanta, and people thought that seemed bad, like they're trying to escape somehow criminal charges. They always said, no, they told us to get out of the house so they could really investigate it. And we had a home there, and we have family there, and we have access to our private plane, so that's why we were going. But then in this doc, I see that he's saying something a little different. So I'm going to watch it, and it'll be kind of interesting to watch it through eyes that don't really know anything about this crime the way I do.
Starting point is 00:32:33 This weekend was Bravo Fan Fest in Miami. It was kind of like a mini BravoCon. Not that much scoop came from it. I saw some clips, and I know I don't believe it was sold out. The prices were high. We looked into it. I was curious. And I think for just a one-day ticket where you're just like in a theater hearing panels, it was $4.50. For a little, some type of other experience, VIP where maybe you'd have a chance of getting a photo if you wanted to wait in line was $7.50. I thought that was really high, but you know, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:33:08 The stars were mostly Real Housewives of Miami and Summer House. And then they announced just a couple of weeks ago that they were adding like Kyle Richards, but there were not any Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. There were no OGs of Real Housewives of New York. But Andy got asked a question and he said, I have made up with Carol Radzwell from Real Housewives of New York. I love Carol. She's been on Jesus Scoop many times.
Starting point is 00:33:37 My favorite, one of my favorite moments ever, though sad for her because I feel like that's what got her not to come back, got fired is when she was being so gaslit by Bethany the whole season. She didn't understand what Bethany's issue was. And then she looks at Andy and she goes, what Andy? Are you scared of Bethany too? And he's like, oh yeah, I'm scared of Bethany. And it was like, anyway, they haven't talked in years, but according to Andy, they've made up and they're good.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Also, he said he's made up with Nimi. Makes me think that he's realizing that these people that were such dynamic stars of the past are really what the fans are craving. The new Real Housewives of New York is just not getting a lot of buzz. People aren't into it. I find it quite boring.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I think I already predicted that Jessel's husband is going to be the next house husband pursuing stand-up comedy. I hate that these predictions come true, but get ready. Because they did such a cringy thing, they did a, their whole storyline is, should we go and get our embryo and have that girl?
Starting point is 00:34:46 And he's like, I don't want another kid, we have twin boys. And she's like, well, I do. So they do a Zoom with this therapist from Mexico, which I'm like, you're in New York City and we're not in COVID. I can't believe that you can't find a marriage therapist in New York. That would're not in COVID. I can't believe that you can't find a marriage therapist in New York.
Starting point is 00:35:05 That would really, this is a common problem for people of a certain economic state where it's like, this isn't about money really. It's about, and we have, we can decide when to put it in and everything because we're in the IVF world. Meanwhile he decides because the guy's Mexican, he's going to eat chips and salsa during the therapy session. And she's like, and she's like, I mean, with him, it's just it never stops. It's like if you're married to Kevin Hart or Dave Chappelle. No, it's not. We're watching the show. In fact,
Starting point is 00:35:36 not many of us are watching the show because it's so fucking boring. And you're not that funny. He's trying to be a food influencer and trying and thinks this is going to be a step to stand up comedy. I don't blame him. All of a sudden, cameras are following him around. He's on a major TV show and he's like, wow, I just skipped a hundred steps. I could go on tour with Dave Chappelle. I could open for Dave Chappelle. And this is what happens. These people are delusional. So then I started going back and watching the original Rony and it is just the best. You can see it on Peacock.
Starting point is 00:36:07 It's so good. It does piss me off that when every time I go on my Peacock to watch more, I have to click on the new Rony just to get to the old Rony of like Luan, Jill Zarin, Bethany, Alex McCord. Oh my God. It's so good because they're not famous. They don't really know what's going on they're just starting to get famous around episode about around the season 3 and
Starting point is 00:36:31 It's fascinating. I think more and more they are realizing that you know what these people were Interesting to watch even though we let some people get in our ear that complained that oh, you know what they're You know politically incorrect and they're too old and they're getting sloppy. It was magic. It just was, I don't know. So hopefully we can see the return of NeNe. If Carol ever wanted to come back,
Starting point is 00:36:56 I think that would be fantastic. Maybe it'll create something different. I always like going on the ultimate girls trip. We'll never see the Moroccan trip, but we could do another one. We could do another one. And so anyway, but there was very little scoop that came out of the Miami mini BravoCon thing.
Starting point is 00:37:18 From Miami, Julia and her wife, Martina Navatarola, I don't know if I said her name wrong, the tennis player, they did adopt twin boys. I don't know how old they are. Alexia wants to get back with her husband, Todd. He hates doing the show and that's why they're separated, but she still loves him and is desperate to get back with him.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Lenny and Lisa's divorce is final. We know that Dr. Nicole has left and that they hired her husband's ex-girlfriend. She's the new housewife. Probably why she left, because they're really rich and they don't need it and she just had another baby, but also like really? Like I said, what are they going to do? Bring on Leslie Bedor on OC for Shannon next season? Don't be surprised if it happens. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And he did say you're gonna see one of the toughest moments you've ever seen on a Housewife show. I believe it's Mary struggling with her son's addiction, which is very sad. No mother should have to go through that. And brave to put it on camera, and let's hope he's doing better. Also today, it was one of the other sites,
Starting point is 00:38:25 I think it's OMG Bravo has shared that, allegedly on some other site, that Mary's house might be in foreclosure. We don't see the step-grandfather, her husband. She no longer has the church, because she can't, I mean. We know the scoop behind it. Who's going to go give her money for outfits for her to be on Housewives anymore? And we know that Housewives doesn't pay that much, so maybe she does have to leave that
Starting point is 00:38:55 house. Maybe it's in foreclosure because she's not paying, just like PK's not paying. So, also Bronwyn, who is married to the older gentleman, Todd, she did an interview and at one point she let it slip like, everyone thinks I'm a sugar baby, but that's not it. Even though we're 25 years apart or whatever they are, she met him when he was 54 and she was 27. You do the math. She's like, you know, that's not what I'm about. You know, we just really have a lot in common
Starting point is 00:39:26 and I just find him fascinating with his coffee cups. And you never know, I'm season 17, it might be me who has a sugar baby. Well, that would mean that you'd have to divorce Todd. So how strong is your marriage that you're already looking forward to a time of being divorced and finding a young guy.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I truly believe she loves this life so much and I don't blame her. I'm not going back to Alaska. She's not going back to her other life of just buying weird clothes and only the people at the restaurant can enjoy them. She loves it. She always knew that she was for bigger and better things. She will go to anything they ask her to go to. Salt Lake, Real Housewives of Salt Lake Ice Cream opening in New York here or there.
Starting point is 00:40:17 She's having a blast. She's very interesting to watch. Their dynamic is juicy. So that's doing pretty well. Of course OC we saw the finale of it and at the very end they picked up cameras and they had a meeting with just Heather DeBrow, Gina, Tamara, Shannon Bedor and Emily. Fab Force 5 or whatever that was from Beverly Hills. That's what it reminded me of.
Starting point is 00:40:48 No Alexis was there, no, and no Katie and Jen. So I think, well, we know those five are definitely coming back. I think Shannon and Tamara probably hate each other, but are smart enough to know that we're not giving up this million dollar paycheck and we need to make this work and put it aside to stay on the show and keep it going. But we don't know who, if they're looking at anybody else seriously and if they'll bring anyone back. So Alexis and John are still together every day. People are saying they're broken up.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They were just at like a wedding together and they have a wedding date planned for the fall. So that would be pretty interesting if they kept them around and we could see it, but who knows? But it was a very interesting season. We know that. Real House as of Beverly Hills is getting, you
Starting point is 00:41:47 know, juicy. We've only seen one episode, but I did come across Morgan Wade and she wrote a song. It's one of her new songs. And you know what? She was on my TikTok and at least this one did not have a lot of views or anything, but she did sound great and was real raw. And she's like, I just wrote this song. And it was about from first person trying to get pregnant, being so disappointed when you go to the CVS and you take the test and it's negative and you dream of pitter patter feet on the wood floors. It was really a good song. And it made me wonder, you know, sometimes in my comments people say, wait did she ever come out because she had a husband before. Morgan Wade was on a local TV station saying my husband's in
Starting point is 00:42:35 the band and here we go. You know, Kyle has never admitted that they were anything but friends and now she's no longer part of the show. Kyle has promised her, I won't say your name on the show, even though Garcelle is like, uh, I think we know it's Morgan Wade. She's been on the show. She was in multiple scenes. You did a video together where you practically kissed, but they didn't kiss. And so what is the deal?
Starting point is 00:42:59 And I think it's, I'm right about it. I think whatever happened, it's not happening now. And Morgan Wade wants to continue and get the respect from musicians and not just from curious housewives in their 40s. So there you go. Ladies and gentlemen, what are you doing? What do you mean? I'm making it simple. I'm making the promo. Just keep it simple. Just say, Hey, we're the bra bros, two guys that talk about Bravo. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we're the bra bro. No, dude, stop with the voice.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Just keep it simple. I've seen promos on TV, dude. This is how you get the fans engaged. This is how you get listeners. We're trying to get listeners here. If we just say, Oh, we're two dudes that talk about Bravo. People are gonna get tired of it already. We need some oomph. All right, then fine. Let's try to do it with your voice. Bravo, bros. Good job. Welcome to Monet Talks with me, your girl,
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Starting point is 00:45:51 She did a video online saying she can't believe that her child who is a twin was invited to a party and they didn't invite the other twin. And gosh, I mean, what is wrong with people? No matter what, that is so mean and rude. And as a parent, I just remember I got invited to a one-year-old birthday party for Drake. And it was our weekend with Mackenzie. Mackenzie is my stepdaughter, and they're three years apart. And she was going to be with me that day. and Peter had to do something. He was not, he was working or something. So I was, I was like, okay, great. It was like at the beach or something.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And I'm like, okay, Mackenzie and I and Drake will be there. And this girl wrote me back or it got a mutual friend let me know, no, no siblings are allowed, it's only for one year olds. And I was just kind of like, okay, I see that you didn't want a bunch of other kids running around and being disruptive and you wanted like all the one year olds to sit at a little one year old table.
Starting point is 00:47:03 But I'm like, I only see my daughter two weekends a month. And I am not going to leave her with my mom or something, which would have been fine. And then, first of all, I want the time with her. But then also, I'm like, I'm not going to leave her and then have her somehow figure it out that I took Drake to a birthday. Like that would be so hurtful, especially to a stepchild. So I remember I reached out and
Starting point is 00:47:30 I was like, I totally get it. It's your party. You have an aesthetic you want with just people of a certain height that are little. I don't know, but I'm not, I just can't attend, but I get it. It's your party. And then she did reach out and she was like, okay, you can come, I think is what happened because I do remember being there. But very, so now I'm going to, oh, speaking of, this is what happens if you have multiple children or when you have multiple wives.
Starting point is 00:47:57 This just popped up. I'm a little behind in my sister wives, but Cody has said in the last episode, he breaks down weeping after telling Mary that she is his favorite ex-wife. And the comments are hilarious because he always, while they were all married, she was his least favorite wife
Starting point is 00:48:22 because he was just not into her at all. They never hung out. They never boned. She was catfished. Thought she was talking to a guy that was going to whisk her away from this guy that wasn't into her. Turned out it was a woman. That was all embarrassing. He just never wanted to hang out with her. COVID was the perfect excuse. She finally is like, we're done. He even has said, don't be mad that I didn't love you. Be mad at yourself that I didn't love you, or something like that, like the rudest comment.
Starting point is 00:48:49 She was the first wife, so it really makes no sense that he'd be like, you know, I was never in love with you to start. I think that's all his excuses of like, oh, I was called to live this life, and this life didn't work out for me, and I was trying to be this good soldier of the scripture that says I should have multiple wives.
Starting point is 00:49:05 So I just picked out the three of you and I wasn't into any of you until Robin came along. Anyway, now he is no longer with Christine or with Janelle. But he said, Mary, you're my favorite. Yeah, I think that's totally true. I think people can, he's like, yeah, you're the easiest ex-wife. Like you don't really say a lot of mean things.
Starting point is 00:49:26 You weren't difficult. You're not in love with someone else like Christine, shoving them in the faces of the viewers. You're my favorite ex-wife. And I just think that's hilarious. Lizzo is thin. You guys, for my Juicy Scoopers, please find the episode where I predicted that Lizzo would get thin. You guys, for my juicy scoopers, please find the episode where I predicted that Lizzo would get thin. It's probably around two years, right when Ozepic was on the market where people
Starting point is 00:49:53 were doing it. But if you did it, they would come out with pitchforks and come after you. How dare you take Ozepic from a diabetic, you skinny bitch, you don't need it. My uncle can't get it. He had to wait in line around the corner limping. Okay, well now we know that you can get it. It is still expensive, but there's a lot of other places you can get it, which is the semi-glutide, whatever, knockoff of Ozempic.
Starting point is 00:50:23 The shots you take once a week. Jim Gathegan has a special out, he's a very funny comedian called Skinny. He's thin, he always struggled with his white weight. He had a lot of funny jokes about being a dad of six kids and eating crap food, he's a clean comic. But he's brutally honest about why he's thin and he says it's Oz Zephyc, basically.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And I don't think Lizzo has come out with it. Of course we know it, but again, if she doesn't want to, she doesn't want to. But she wants to be thin. And to some people that really followed her body positivity thing and were like mad that she was a bigger girl and happy and talented, and then they were mad that she was mean to her dancers who filed a lawsuit where she took them to sex shows in Amsterdam after performing, and she wanted them to be a certain weight.
Starting point is 00:51:16 She didn't want them losing weight, or she wanted them to be thinner or fatter as her dancer, whatever it is. She is thin, and showing off those photos and loving it and how she got there is her issue, you know, and her deal. And you can like her music because she was once heavy and now she's thin or you can like her music because you like that she was mean to her dancers or you don't believe that she was mean to her dancers. Who cares? Let's just see if she brings out some new music.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But it would be really interesting if she also called her new song Skinny and stole that from Jim Gaffigan. Well, Thanksgiving is around the corner, obviously. And Meghan Markle has released a statement. This is kind of a... Basically, people are talking a lot about Meghan Markle and Harry not doing a lot together but they also bought this house in Portugal I don't know I just think the interest overall is like who really cares are they doing things separately yeah they
Starting point is 00:52:14 are they've been married now like six years you know so he didn't go to the ladies luncheon that benefited women from Afghanistan okay you, you know, let me tell you something. My husband doesn't come to everything with me either. He didn't go to the Vanderpump Dog Ball with me, but he did go to the American TV Reality Awards with me. You know, he doesn't come to everything. Some things I ruin my sister to. Sometimes he doesn't attend.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Doesn't matter. Now he's not the prince, but still. But people also seem to think that they're going to separate creatively. Well, they should. Neither of them have any business doing podcasts or creating TV shows because none of them have worked except for their documentary where they ripped on the royals. So there you go. This I thought was really funny. This is a viral TikTok going. And this girl wrote, "'My brother started making PowerPoint presentations "'with every movie we watched
Starting point is 00:53:10 "'because he got tired of my mom asking so many questions.'" Hilarious, so they're watching a movie and then above it, he has what he anticipates his mom to be, would ask. And it was an older movie with Brad Pitt. So he wrote, yes, that is Brad Pitt. He's currently 60 years old. He was 41 when this movie was made.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Angelina Jolie divorced him in 2016 and he has six kids. He also divorced Jennifer Aniston in 2010 or whatever it was. I just think that is so hilarious. And I think when you're spending time with your family, whether you're this mom or this kid, this was just hilarious and very relatable. Okay, so now I'm gonna get into some stuff that was on my Facebook group called Juicy Scoop Obsessed.
Starting point is 00:54:02 A lot of people have asked, will you do an advice column or just occasionally give advice? So I thought this is a great time. And coincidentally, a lot of the questions, it was only up for a few hours, so I'm sure there'll be more. Maybe I'll do more in the weeks to come, were about holidays and what to do with family.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I'm gonna read some of them. But one was, my sister-in-law always insists on hosting, but her food sucks and everybody hates it. What do I do? Well, and a lot of things about it. What do I do going to my boyfriend or my husband's house? It's so many more people.
Starting point is 00:54:40 It's such a bigger deal. It's a lot for me to take so many people around. Here's the thing, if you're gonna be with someone, then you should spend at least one holiday with their family. So it's Thanksgiving and Christmas, you do one at yours and one at his. I think that's fair.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And you know what, suck it up. If you're a guest, eat before whatever or do what I do. When it first started, I felt that there were not enough sides at Peter's family's Thanksgiving. I was like, the turkey was good, but there literally was—it was like turkey and sauerkraut. And I was like, that's it? Like, where's the sides? So then, the first few years, I never hosted, but I started to bring more and more and more sides to when I wasn't hosting. And then when – and now that I'm hosting all these people for the first year ever,
Starting point is 00:55:36 you guys, I actually am getting a caterer. And I always said one day I'd be in a position to just get a caterer and have it be lovely and I'm just telling people just bring a dessert and a bottle of wine, that's it. You don't have to bring an appetizer, you don't have to do anything. And we're, you know, but that's because for 20 years I have hosted, well I've probably hosted 10 or 11 times I've probably hosted, because we do it every other year. And if you don't want to come, that's fine. But if I agree to do it, I'm going to do it my best. I'm going to do it what makes it fun for all of us
Starting point is 00:56:13 and be great. But I think for your sister-in-law, you should just say, you do so much. Why don't you just do like the turkey and let me do something else? Or you can offer. You can say, could I please host one year?
Starting point is 00:56:27 Okay, so here's this other one. This is coming from Kim, okay? I'm Gen X, married four kids, my in-laws never accepted me. My father-in-law passed away a year and a half ago and my mother-in-law is hanging onto the bit. I don't know what that means. And I'm the villain in every scenario, literally cannot win with her. Push presents were never a thing in our generation. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I never got anything and I pushed out two babies. The present was the baby. Okay. And so now I have to deal with her disrespect in my home on a holiday. And then she said, so then she goes, I'm picking cute gifts, unwilling to tell your mom to stop. I think she just feels she's got a real issue with her mother-in-law. And I just have to say, I don't know what it's like to have an unpleasant mother-in-law because I really do have a great one. You know, there was only one time that there was an issue and it was when I had to miss
Starting point is 00:57:24 Thanksgiving to go to Australia when I worked on Chelsea Lately. We were not going to be there for Thanksgiving. And technically it was our year to have it. And I said, I don't want you having Thanksgiving at my house without me. And I'm like, I just don't want my kids to remember a Thanksgiving, like, where's mommy? Oh, she's working, you know? I just didn't want that. I go, can we just all do it next year? Just either everyone have their own small one or go to the other cousin's house.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And that was probably the only time I like really felt like I had to like assert what I wanted for my family. Otherwise, very accommodating. And that was just something because I felt so bad about missing it. I was so sad. And you guys know I'm sensitive about being a working mom. And I always was. So that was probably about it.
Starting point is 00:58:12 But for you who have trouble with your mother-in-law, I think you just have to accept that on occasion, you just kiss some ass and just be pleasant. It's not worth it. And they're not going gonna be there forever. And they probably only have a few thanksgivings left. And they wanna be with their child. And so just do it your way and just be firm
Starting point is 00:58:36 and be like, no, this is what we're serving. This is what we're having. We are doing a gift exchange. We are doing it and you can participate or not. And we'd love to see you and like just be real, the minute you start being like firm like that, then maybe there'll be a bigger reaction that's positive. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I have a friend who's extremely needy when she needs help or is having a crisis in life. I'm normally the first one she will call, text in situations when she needs help or guidance. For example, her child was sick, I got medication, saw her many times, picked it up for her, dropped them off. The same friend though was not there when I needed her. I was going through a particularly hard time and she pretty much is non-existent.
Starting point is 00:59:17 When my son was pretty sick and we needed surgery, she acted like I was making a big deal out of it. That would be really annoying. Also she's always going out with other groups of friends and will find a babysitter for those nights but when she goes out with me she just brings the daughter. Okay, girl, this is Chelsea. Listen, this friend doesn't really care that much about you. She has you in a category where she, speaking of classic Real Housewives of New York, when Kelly Bessamone says, I'm up here, Bethany, and you're down here, she sees herself as more important, entitled, and you're lucky for her presence.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And therefore, when she goes with her other friends, she sees them in a different light where she's like, oh, I don't want to bring the kid. I really want to party. But I'll see my friend who I like, but I'm going to bring my kid. I'm not going to pay for a sitter and I'm not going to miss out on time with my kid because it's just this girl Chelsea. It's just Chelsea, whatever. But it's really important that you recognize this and this is what you need to do.
Starting point is 01:00:32 You need to pull back and really kind of notice now when's the next time she reaches out to you. What is it for? Is she inviting you to something? Is she asking you how you are? Or is she just needing your help with something? Can you, you know, or is she just bitching and complaining? Kind of keep a little like log of it and to kind of figure out if this friendship is really worth your effort anymore. Or if you do pull back, maybe she'll, maybe she will, you know, maybe that's changed the dynamic and maybe she will really realize, no, she really does care about me.
Starting point is 01:01:08 That's just her and she is there and she is a good time and maybe it's in balance, but I'm down for it. But you really need to kind of test it out because one thing this year has taught me is that I definitely had a different perspective of friendships and they weren't. To them, it was a transactional thing. They didn't really care about me and sometimes it takes things to crack it open and for you to see it clearly as hurtful as that might be.
Starting point is 01:01:31 So good luck with that. Okay. I'm the same age as you and I want to start traveling. My husband is not keen. I'm thinking of buying a camper van bus and heading off on my own for six months. What would you do? Well, I'm thinking of buying a camper van bus and heading off on my own for six months. What would you do?" Well, I never want to be in a camper van bus because I just don't know how to do anything and that would be terrifying. And that's not something I really think is a great
Starting point is 01:01:55 idea to do by myself. I do understand a lot of women once their kids are grown and they're of a certain age want to travel and the crotchety old man doesn't really want to. Do not not travel because the crotchety old man. There are so many groups and I've talked to travel agents too that say I have so many groups of happily married women but the husband just doesn't care to do the same type of stuff. They don't want to go to Europe. They're happy on the golf course, sitting in their lounger, whatever. They've worked their whole life. It's not what they want to do. So I think that's what you need to do is have the conversation of like, well, these are the things I want to do. What would you like to join me on? Maybe it's one thing. Maybe it's a shorter like vacation. And then the bigger thing, you go find some other women, I wouldn't go alone, find some other women,
Starting point is 01:02:49 find some other plans, and just say I'm doing it. I'm not gonna not do it because you don't wanna join me. That's just lame. There are so many ways, especially in this digital age, to find like-minded people that want to do something you wanna do, so 100% go do that.. But also don't be resentful of your husband. You know, if he brings up something that you don't want to do either, then you need to speak up and go, that's not really what I, it's not really how I want to spend my time or my money. It's, I'm not into it. Or, okay,
Starting point is 01:03:20 I'll do one of your trips and you do one of mine, but we have to be delights to each other. But if you know your spouse well, sometimes you're like, if he doesn't get his way, he's not gonna be delight. He's gonna be full blown, crotchety old man, okay? And I don't wanna put up with that. So you really have to like evaluate it. And you know, it's no reason, you don't need to break up, you don't need to get divorced, you made it this long.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Doing things separately is okay. Okay. This was kind of a long one, so I'm going to summarize it. But this girl said, Erica, she said, I had a seizure at work and this other girl didn't even care and kind of mocked it. And then she said, this girl, she goes, this coworker pretends to be a sugar baby but has nothing to show for it.
Starting point is 01:04:08 She's 30 and lives with her parents. And in my mind, she's a Splenda baby, fake sugar. Shortly after my seizure, she had a minor fender bender and I remarked that while most people slow down to look at accidents, most people wouldn't want to see a coworker seize on the floor. Well, that was kind of snarky too. Here's the thing. There's a lot of co-worker questions in this. A lot of women that work together hate each other. They do. They do. And I think it's interesting, would be an interesting dynamic to study. Like, some of these questions I got,
Starting point is 01:04:42 it seems like women are annoyed by co-workers that either don't work as hard as they do, other women that don't work as hard as they do, and ones that seem to get away with something. This girl seems to get away with stuff, get away with sympathy. She clearly doesn't like her, and the boss sort of favors her or coddles her. My advice is you do not go to the boss and complain that this girl is getting away with more than you. Think about your kids. Is there anything more annoying than when a child, when one of your kids is like, but Tommy didn't do it and I did it. It's like that's not what you want. What you need to do is if you're in that situation and you like the job, you just need to go,
Starting point is 01:05:22 I like the job. I don't like this girl. Eventually, they'll figure it out. Or if you feel like you're doing more than you should, don't go above and beyond. Do what the job requires and do it well. Take advantage of your paid time off. You know, a lot of people that are really dedicated, a lot of women are like this. They're like, oh my God, I never took my vacation time because there was a project coming and I knew that they needed me. No, take all the things that you're entitled to. Just follow the rules. Make sure you put the request in far in advance. If you haven't used all your six days, guess what? You're sick. Find a day and be sick. Lie about it. Get your sick days in and just don't post. Don't go to
Starting point is 01:06:09 Starbucks. Don't be like, I got my star. I remember that happened at Chelsea lately. A couple of people, this person called in sick and literally tweeted about the hot barista that served him a latte. And we're like, really? You're supposed to be sick. Well, I was just getting a hot tea for my cold. Shut up. So if you're going to call in sick, like just stay home, stay off your phone, watch some movies and pretend to be sick. Take advantage of all those things because these other coworkers are doing it and that's why you're being resentful because you are a better employee than they and you feel like
Starting point is 01:06:39 you are not getting the respect you deserve. But guess what? You can't demand the respect. You just have to do your best and try that it not bother you. My kid is growing up with a friend, with a friend's kid. But this kid is so dang selfish.
Starting point is 01:06:57 He sucks the air out of the room. Do I, do I let them still be friends? Then another person jumped on it, Jen. She said, my very good friend has a daughter the same age as mine. We live in the same town. They are six. Her daughter is not a good influence on mine.
Starting point is 01:07:14 They get into trouble, act crazy, wild, et cetera. I don't know how to keep saying no to play dates and plans and request that they not be in the same bunk without offending her. I guess she means bunk like going to camp. Well, I was reading this with Drake and he's like, how much trouble are two six year olds getting into? I think, you know what, your friend, your daughter has a friend, you shouldn't stop that friendship. The only thing I would maybe suggest is getting them involved in an activity that that girl is not involved
Starting point is 01:07:43 in and they'll eventually kind of grow apart. But then if they see each other on occasion or you want to get together with your friend, it's fine. But if you really feel like a child is just not your kid's vibe or you feel like they act sassy or they're doing the wrong thing, get them involved in something that will let me know their kids. Like get into gymnastics or karate or whatever
Starting point is 01:08:05 that that kid is not involved in. You'll make other friends and they'll kind of forget about it. I was the kid that people thought was the bad influence and that is because I was the youngest of five and I was just being raised by wolves. I don't know. I was able to watch whatever TV I wanted and I was at this girl's house. First time to be invited over for a sleepover. That's when people did sleepovers now. Everyone's like, never do a sleepover. But anyway, so I was at a sleepover, which I understand why people don't
Starting point is 01:08:34 do it, but I was. And this girl had like very straight kind of cool, like kind of very straight hair. And we were playing with barrettes and she put her hair up in a barrette. And I'm like, that looks good. And she goes, oh, my mom doesn't like me wearing barrettes. She says it looks cheap. And then the mom came in and I go, what do you mean it looks cheap?
Starting point is 01:08:56 She goes, oh, with her thick, straight hair, I just feel like it doesn't blend in nicely. Like, you know, when she puts her hair in a barrette. And I go, oh, I thought you meant sheep like a hooker. I was eight, I said this. And I knew then that that was not the right thing to say because the mom's eyes like fell out of her head. And she's like, wow, your mother sure shares
Starting point is 01:09:17 a lot of things with you that we don't find appropriate, something like that. And then I doubled down and I was like, have you not seen Dawn the Teenage Hooker or whatever it was? It starred Eve Plum and it was after the Brady Bunch had ended. She played Jan in Braid Bunch and she was a teenage hooker and she wore like a tan outfit, like a leather mini skirt, like a Pocahontas kind of an outfit and was walking up and down the streets of
Starting point is 01:09:45 Hollywood Boulevard. I just loved the outfit. And I just thought it was just a fascinating show. And I knew what a hooker was. And I knew that they sometimes would charge certain things for just a BJ and other things for the whole nine yards. I was eight. I knew all of this.
Starting point is 01:10:02 But then Drake also said, yeah, but there's a lot of kids that are like watching people tick tock and they're like, you know, nine years old and they have access to tick tock and they're watching people, you know, twerking and things like that. But whatever, you know, I was never asked back. I was never asked back to that girl's house. That mother probably told other people stay away from that girl. Like, you know, because I never had a curfew and I could watch whatever TV I wanted and it made me a little weird. But in the end, look at me now, doing pretty good. But that was odd. And so I said to Drake, did you, and I guess
Starting point is 01:10:36 Drake was seen as Drake. You said you were seen as, some people thought you were sort of a bad influence. But it wasn't because of what I did, right? It was just that you guys were just getting in trouble. I don't know. I hope it wasn't what I did. But we didn't get invited to a lot of things, so maybe it was. Whatever, we're fine. Okay, I found out recently that all the women
Starting point is 01:11:00 in my husband's family went to Nashville to celebrate my niece's 21st birthday, and I was the only one not invited. What would Heather do? Well, this is a bummer and this is hurtful. But fuck them. You were not overlooked. Whoever put it together chose not to invite you. And you know what? Eagles don't fly with pigeons. As Dorinda would say, You know what? Eagles don't fly with pigeons. They don't. And you ought to think of yourself like that. Well, I wouldn't, you know what? It saved me money. Who knows what could have happened there.
Starting point is 01:11:37 If, like I always said, if someone doesn't find me a delight, I don't need to be around you. As someone that has had a weird couple years, there's enough people in this world that do wanna be around you. And even though it's your family, so what? It is hard, it is hard for it not to bother you. I totally get it. I am not someone that just can put on the blinders
Starting point is 01:12:00 and have shit not bother me. But I wouldn't make this a big deal with your husband. I wouldn't cause drama with the family. I would just be totally fine with it. And probably you not caring maybe the next time there is something they will invite you because you're just like, oh, all right, whatever. But it's a bummer. But you know, there's a reason life's rejection is God's protection.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Maybe something will happen in that Nashville trip that'll show its ugly hat and you'll say, "'Maybe it was best I wasn't invited' or something like that. But you know, it's that whole let them theory. Let them, let them do their thing without you, you're fine. The company where I work is going to close soon. My husband wants me to keep working to look for a job. Keep working to look for a job.
Starting point is 01:12:53 From home in the same company, but I will receive a severance package and frankly I wanna stop working for a while and not look for another job. He said it's okay, but he's not happy about it. I've been working in the company for almost 12 years. Is that okay to stop working and relax for two to three months?
Starting point is 01:13:09 I've never done that before and I'm 50. Yes, it's okay. Yeah, it's okay, girl. You know what? Hopefully your husband's not a juicy scooper. Why don't you just pretend like you're looking for a job? Just be like, okay, that sounds like a great idea. I would like, maybe let me look into it. And then like, okay, that sounds like a great idea. I would like maybe
Starting point is 01:13:25 let me look into it. And then when he asks, just say, I don't know that they haven't gotten back to me or well, the person that's in charge is going to be back in two weeks and just buy yourself some time. And in that time, enjoy yourself. I mean, hopefully you, you know, we'll be okay financially. And then maybe in that time, do some soul searching and maybe see something else that you'd rather do. And then you can present that to him and say, you know what? I don't want to do this anymore.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I actually want to do this. And that's what I'm going to do. Too bad, you know, that's what's happening. I don't want to do this job anymore. It doesn't fulfill me. It doesn't make me happy. I've really enjoyed my time off and I'm gonna pursue this instead.
Starting point is 01:14:11 But maybe in the meantime, you just say, okay, sure, I'll try to do that. Sometimes honesty is not always the best policy. Okay. Okay, I have a new coworker that was hired at the same salary as me. When my boss asked, should we hire her, I said no. I've been training her for two months.
Starting point is 01:14:32 She's so bad at her job. In addition, she's always got excuses. But we're both remote, oh how annoying. And we can hear her on other meetings. We are certain she has another full-time job. Heather, would you call her out on it or yourself or wait for the boss to handle it or quit the job? This is triggering my PTSD.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Okay, I don't think that you should quit, but I think that you could drop subtle hints to the boss without being the tattletale. I think you could be saying, oh, hey, we were doing the meeting the other day on the Zoom. And it was just a little frustrating because Katie or whatever was like talking to somebody else about shipments. I don't know what was going on there. I don't know if she does like some other thing on the side or what. But anyway, what we need to do is this. And you just kind of drop it like that. Like drop the hints like you didn't even mean to for him to then investigate.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Does she have another job? That's what I would do. But it's not your job to tell and spell it out and look like Bitter Betty. And you got to be careful about that shit. Also, Lindsay Lohan got a major facelift and I think she did the burn victim skin thing that Tamra did because she is no freckles she was on Watch Realms Live she looks amazing face looks looks amazing and you know it wasn't staying out of the Sun because I remember one of the first jokes I wrote for Chelsea lately was Lindsay Lohan is aging in dog years because she looked and acted and sounded like she was 40
Starting point is 01:16:08 when she was like 24. So now she is about 40 and she looks amazing. She does not have one freckle on her face, which tells me like she got all that dead skin off and then probably did like a lower facelift too. But she looks great and that's it. All right, you guys, so remember everybody, when you're hanging around on Friday,
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