Julian Dorey Podcast - 🤫 #112 - A Secret Spot In Italy & The Big Guy Hits Me With A Surprise | Dylan McDonnell

Episode Date: August 11, 2022

(***TIMESTAMPS in Description below) ~ Dylan McDonnell is a real estate investor and former College Football player. ***TIMESTAMPS*** 0:00 - Intro; Las Vegas when the Pandemic hit; Armin Van Buuren; Andrew Tate; UFC mentality 21:37 - Brain fog; DeShaun Watson; LeBron & Boston; Miles Bridges 44:23 - Will Mike Spear run for office?; Pelosi, Taiwan…and WWIII?; Real estate right now; New York City; Audiobooks vs. hard-copy/kindle 1:03:57 - Funny stories; The latest NJ Political Story is a MASSIVE cold case; Emotional politics 1:28:36 - Where’s Pomp and when is he coming on?; Dylan drops a surprise; Breaking Bad; The Meat Squad Days 1:48:39 - The mob; The legend of Tony Lomb; Hot spots in Italy ~ YouTube EPISODES & CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0A-v_DL-h76F75xik8h03Q ~ Get $150 Off The Eight Sleep Pod Pro Mattress / Mattress Cover (USING CODE: “TRENDIFIER”): https://eight-sleep.ioym.net/trendifier PRIVADO VPN FOR $4.99/Month: https://privadovpn.com/trendifier/#a_aid=Julian Julian's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey ~ Beat provided by: https://freebeats.io Music Produced by White Hot Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Well, actually, I need to ask you to be in my wedding. And what a better time than this. Really? Yeah. I'm honored. Yeah. Thank you. If you'll be there, I'd love to have you by my side.

Ride or die, man. Yeah. Thousand percent. Oh, man. Cheers. Cheers. To the McDonald's. Yeah.

What's cooking, everybody? I am joined in the bunker today by my longtime, very close friend, Mr. Dylan McDonald. This was a good old school Trend of Fire episode, shooting the shit on a whole bunch of topics, telling funny stories and having a good time. So I hope you guys enjoy it. If you're're on youtube right now please hit that subscribe button hit that like button on the video and as always would love to see you guys down in the comment section below to everyone who is listening on apple or spotify thank you for checking out the show over there if you haven't already be sure to leave a five star review on either one of those platforms i look forward to seeing you guys again for future episodes and by the way when i start talking about the one thing in italy today if any

if any of you out there are going to italy anytime soon seriously hit me up in the comments dms whatever i'll hook you up with that thing and somewhere in the episode but that said you know what it is i'm julian dory this is trend of fire and please welcome Mr Dylan McDonald do my eyes deceive me is this Dylan McDonald in front of me in the bunker come on in the flesh I think I invited you on this two years ago yeah I'm excited to be here that was the longest RSVP I've ever gotten it's like you're like yeah I can make it on on uh Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sounds good. Sounds good. How you been, brother? Good.

How about yourself? I've been hanging in. Doing big things, baby. Working on it. Yeah. You were here ground floor. Yeah. You've been here before.

And just to watch it before my eyes, it's inspiring. It really is inspiring. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. You're doing a great job. I got to say, though, one thing that you are amazing at that most people are not as adept at is I've never seen a human being more capable of making a dollar legally than you. You know where it is, man. Yeah.

Like when did you when did you get into like I'm not just talking like investing like stocks and shit like that, but like investing period and like time value of money? Well, investing money was uh 18 uh i started reading about warren buffett uh freshman year of college um and that's that's when i started with a vanguard account um just as as he said um but i think i've been investing in myself for as long as I can remember, just with sports and school and balancing jobs and socially, everything. I've been probably since about eight years old maybe. Yeah, you're an all-around kind of guy. People gravitate towards. Cheers.

Thanks for having me. Thank you for coming. Thank you. Looking forward to it. Honestly, I got the good stuff. Always best the doers nice and by the way for all the people out there for all you people can't handle it on the internet we have a good scooper now let's just tell a donut about that off camera so for the record i had i showed you that old scooper yeah yeah whenever i would it. It would be a clusterfuck

So starting I don't know maybe like episode 45 whenever we did whiskey Right before we start I go wash my hands and then I nuke it there you go when we get on and then you guys don't See the bathroom break, but that's when we refill it right after a bathroom break. I don't wash their hands So I'm not a grimy bastard, but we have a good one now. Yeah't make too much noise well that did nice job cheers good going can't take you anywhere anyway you know what did you see um i was just thinking about this did you see that movie hustle yet yeah with j-lo and uh cardi b was that no no what was that the one oh with uh adam sandler yeah adam sandler yeah i loved it you watched it yeah i liked it that's in philly yeah i still gotta watch i stayed at the hotel that was in it lowe's lowe's hotel there was a they were staying there yeah in the movie yeah

they showed a brief clip of it um my friend kevin bogart got married that's where we stayed for oh that's right that wedding looked fire it was amazing best wedding i've ever been to yeah that went viral on tiktok too it did yeah wild the dances with like the ties around their heads though someone was just yelling at me they're like you haven't seen hustle yet and you're you're from suchers i love adam sandler oh he's love him and i think and this one isn't really getting a lot of credit i feel like maybe because it's enough is it just a netflix movie or is it coming out? Did it come out in theaters? It came out on Netflix, I think, alone.

I can check that. But, yeah, it's a different world. Yeah. You know? I liked it. Yeah. Apparently with Netflix, I've heard all the comedians talk about this. Rogan talks about it all the time.

When you put content on there, they don't tell you how many times it streams or whatever. Yeah. Like you call them up, you're like, how's it doing? And they're like, good. They don't know? No, they know. They just don't tell you. So if you make the top 10 trending, obviously you can tell like, okay, this is doing great.

And I think that was in the top 10. I hope so. I loved it. Everyone was talking about it too. I'm like, I still got to see that. Yeah, put that on the list. He's a guy, his career, like, I feel like we really, as a society, disrespected him. Once he had, like, a couple not-so-great movies in there, and then suddenly it was like, oh, Adam Sandler sucks.

Which ones do you think suck? Like, Jack and Jill, I think, was one. I don't even think I saw that one. Yeah, it wasn't that good. But, like, people were like, oh, he saw that one yeah it wasn't that good but like people were like oh he's he's a husband he was never that good i'm like dude he's a goat he's a legend legend in every way so not not just acting just in every way yeah he's like one of those guys like you know you don't know him but you feel like you know i feel like he's my uncle right yeah right

he can ball too right yeah he's he's yeah did he ball out in the movie at all uh i don't think so no um but i've seen some clips of him at uh like la fitness he's dropping some dimes out there yeah he's not bad yeah they had a lot of guys they had a lot of nba players in that too i think yeah they did they had a bunch yeah who was anthony edwards was in it the main character actually is in the nba right isn't he on the Celtics yeah Hernan Gomez yeah whatever yeah I think he just got signed again yeah yeah I love that it was in Philly too that I made the movie so much better you know where they wanted to make that Boston uh New York I don't know uh overseas you want to go to Spain nope but some of it was in spain um or what's supposed to be in spain when they visited him at his hometown uh they wanted to film it in china oh yeah i did hear that

that's interesting that's that's stupid and netflix said yeah now which props to netflix by the way why i don't even see how that would make sense. What, he'd be playing for a Chinese team? That's my guess. I don't know, though. That was the original script. So he would move from Spain to China to play in China? I guess it would have worked. I guess.

Well, maybe it would have been the other way. He was from Spain. He was from Spain. He was from the hood in Spain. And maybe he's playing in China, and then they want to get him to the NBA. With Adam Sandler, everybody else the same? Yeah, I mean, I like the Philly call. That was nice.

It had a gritty feel to it. Yeah. I love Philadelphia for that reason. Such a gritty city. It is. It really is. Like, that's why Rocky was so perfect. Like, all due respect to Sly, that movie, he definitely makes it, but if you didn't do that in philly it wouldn't it

wouldn't hit the same it wouldn't be the same no it wouldn't hit the same like they did everything right but like they had him the training montage and rocky one or rocky two where he's running everywhere like if you actually ran in all those places in one morning you would have to run like 77 miles or something. I love it. They got everything in the shot. Hilarious. Philly. I need to go back there.

I haven't been in when was the last time I was in Philly? Probably for Bogart's wedding. That might have been the last time. That was like

two years ago, right? Maybe six months to a year ago. I don't think it was that wasn't that long ago no no all my friends are getting married one after another now dude it's nuts i got one coming up in two weeks uh we're on the best man for pat you met pat kelly right oh he's the best dude what a guy he's getting married in two weeks down in charleston shout out to pat yeah the goat pat is the fucking brick brick Brick. Brick, New Jersey crew, man. Legends. He came to Bucknell once.

He did? For Halloween. Yeah, I remember that. He dressed up as the wrestler with the full tattoos. Yeah. He was in a full spandex outfit with tattoos. It was great. We basically had the Brick Mafia up there in representation every weekend in some respect.

Scott always says that he has the honorary Bucknell degree. He does, for sure does he was up there i don't think he i don't think he missed the game no he came to every couple semesters he really did and he would say he would stay the full weekend he would say thursday to monday yeah i would have class monday he'd still be still be on the couch come on now that's it's very it's very cool how you did it because crew the whole Brick New Jersey crew is one of the coolest tightest knit like group individuals

who have been together since like grade school and all went their own way too and they're all friends it's a beautiful thing man we have friends all over the country now and we all still stay in touch what's his face I always forget the one guy's name adam

not adam i know adam he's out he's still in vegas he's in vegas i just visited him uh two three months ago isn't he with like he lives with like a billionaire or something yeah wealthy guy and now he's got a yoga business yeah he does killing it yeah kintsugi that's the name shout out kintsugi that's the name of the yoga studio that he runs oh kintsugi kintsugi i don't think so you can't take me anywhere shout out kintsugi las vegas great studio he uh he had me in there a couple times i feel like that's a racket there's not a lot of males doing that class um not really yeah no not many just good for him yeah he's real good at it and i saw him start that journey um he never was into yoga or anything and then he he went to bali for

i want to say six months went on a trip to bal to Bali, learned all of it, honed in on his craft, and he's really good at it now. So he teaches classes. Great guy, too. And he owns a studio. So shout out to Adam. Shout out to Adam. Perfect life.

Weren't you out there, though, like right when the pandemic hit? That was the first time. I went twice. That was the first time. First time was 2020, March of 2020. On my plane to Vegas, they shut down the strip. Really? They shut down the strip.

What day was that, Wednesday or Thursday? I want to say, I usually travel Thursday to Monday, so it was probably Thursday. So Thursday the 12th. Yeah. That was the day after the NBA shut down. That was the day of. So it might have been the Wednesday then.

Got it. Because the NBA shut, yeah. They all started getting it. I think it was, was it Kevin Durant who got it? I forget who it was in the NBA. Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert. Oh, yeah. When he was touching the mic, right?

That was ridiculous. They still never got over that. No. They split up because of that. So it was that day that we traveled, shut down the strip. So we couldn't do any of that stuff, but we still went on some hikes. We went to, there was one casino that was open. I think it was called Red Rocks.

We went there. We got a suite there. It was fun. What was, I mean, was there, they shut down the whole strip, so the casinos are shut, right? The casinos were open, but the clubs were shut down. The restaurants were shut down. Was there anyone in there? No, not really.

Not in terms of Vegas. I walked into the Bellagio, played a couple of blackjack hands, lost everyone, walked out. Because it was different. Obviously, where we were at the time, you're up in North Jersey at the time. I was up in North Jersey and in New York all the time. Obviously, that's where the wave hit. So that's where it was taking the most serious right away. But as you moved west and south,

it was like a week or two later. Remember the kids down in Florida, like, if I get corona, I get corona. I mean, it was like everything was open. So it's almost surprising that Vegas shut down like that. I didn't know anything out there. I'm not sure how long they shut down but um i didn't get the true vegas experience which is why i went back this this april how was it this

time it was awesome it was awesome yeah yeah it was it was great i never been it was great it's fun it's fun um it's fun because he lives off the Strip in a more residential area, real nice neighborhood, gated community. So it's not – you don't feel like you're in Vegas, but it's a 10-minute drive to the Strip. So you could have the best of both worlds. You could still do the hikes, and you could still do the nightlife too. How are the clubs out there? Are they everything they say?

We tried to go to Encore Beach Club, which is, I guess, the best one. It's in Wynn. Something felt there. So we ended up going to a place called Disco Pussy. There's a big octopus on the ceiling. And some famous EDM. I'm not a big EDM guy. I honestly forget his name.

He's one of the biggest EDM DJs was playing there. Armin Van Buren? Maybe. Maybe? I think so. That sounds right. Really? I think so.

Does he have a Vegas residency now? Who? Armin Van... I could be totally wrong. I think I just made that up. I'm pretty sure I made that up. I think that is him. Is that the biggest EDM guy?

One of the biggest? He's one of the... He was one of the OGs. Like he was the guy when no one- He's like a middle-aged guy? Yeah. Maybe 50? Maybe. I'll look it up in a second. But like I remember I went to his concert when I was young. I think I was like 17. Where? Here? No, it was in Philly. It was on, it was by Penn's Landing. Somewhere like right by there. was like a june concert or

something nico me and another kid we went to high school with went and the one kid was like the huge fan of edm nico me like we're like okay yeah let's see what this is yeah but i had fun i just don't know much about it but that was my first experience i had fun it's like a whole culture like there's it's like any kind of music to be honest but yeah there's there's a totally different vibe even today like around it but obviously now it's extremely mainstream like i listen to it regularly and sometimes i'll forget like oh that's an edm song you know what i mean well is um is a vici edm would that be considered or not really that's a good question i like a vici that's i think maybe but i feel like people called him a dj yeah like producer true the producer like because i know like people who are edm fans

are yelling at us right now but there's my knowledge i have limited knowledge of all the terminology it's not there but i know a good song yeah you know what i mean yeah true like when it hits same i had fun though that club was fun they're all open late they're yeah they're fun is it better than Premiere

I'm biased you know I'm biased I'm gonna be in AC tomorrow oh yeah yeah I must have missed my invite

either it's our three year anniversary yesterday or two days ago on the 3rd we're going down we're seeing a comedy show at Borgata who's playing?

this guy named Eric DeLisandro he's from Staten Island I believe he's like a social media personality interesting I don't follow him, she does that's what's important it's on her bucket list so here I am. It's on her bucket list. Here I am. That guy's on her bucket list?

Yeah. He has a podcast with his wife. She loves the podcast. Supposedly it's a good podcast. That's the way in. It's a lot of great comedian podcasts. I'm always finding one. I'm like, damn, this is fire.

I think he started on Instagram just making clips. You've definitely seen his clips. You probably sent it to me. Yeah. We sent each other a lot. No, you sent me a lot and I watch all of them. can you know clip you've definitely seen his clips um you probably sent it to me yeah yeah we we sent each other off no you sent me a lot and i watch all ten a day ten a day minimum like that's that's half the reason i check instagram it's like oh i haven't been in there for eight hours dylan probably sent me like three videos that's right every time that's right i watch them too i do give them the

watch some of them i'm gonna get quizzed on it. Yeah. The long ones, you know. No, because usually when you send me a long one, it's like actually pertinent. Like you'll send me like somebody making a stance on something. Like, oh, you think this person's crazy or not? And then I got to listen to it. I'm like, oh, no, it's interesting. That's true. And you're a busy guy. You don't have time for all that.

No. But I appreciate that, you know, you watch some of them. That's good stuff, man. But what's the, did you, were you the one who showed me this guy, Andrew Tate? No, I didn't show you him, no. I just... Have you looked at his shit? Just briefly.

Not a lot of it. No, not much. He's out of his fucking mind. Yeah, you were telling me that a little bit. Yeah. He's all over the place, right? Was I telling you about this? He's all over the place a little bit.

Yeah. I talked about him with like five people in the last two days so maybe i was talking with you earlier about this he has his own podcast or he's just on no i don't think he has a podcast i'm not sure i saw him on either was it rogan's podcast or he or or um schultz he was on one of them you saw him on pomp's podcast i did see my pomp's podcast pomp interviewed him like 14 months ago yeah like before he was andrew tate and didn't put it out yeah and now he put it out he's he's just getting traction now i feel like just in the past couple weeks i've heard his name a lot but yeah i've never seen him fight i uh i don't follow him so i don't someone was saying he had like a fake fight career or something yeah that's that's that's what i saw about him that some of

his i guess all of his kickboxing and mma career was was set up in fake which i don't know how it could be but i don't know yeah i don't that could just be trolls being trolls i'm not sure my guess is that would be he's actually you know he's yoked like he's clearly yeah he's clearly when you get when you get in the ring or octagon it's it's real so i'm not sure how you can really go about that but um i don't know i would i respect that like when people step in there i mean you are risking your life hardest thing to do it's so hard even if you lose you're you're still oh yeah it's oh yeah yeah. You get my respect. Yeah. See, who was the one guy? McGregor beat right before the pandemic. Cerrone.

The Cowboy Cerrone. The Cowboy? Yeah, he's older now, but I think that guy lost in like 10 seconds. Totally respect him for the fight. Got in there with Conor fucking McGregor. At the end of his career, too, he wasn't in his prime. No, no. It's like that's not something that 99..9 of this earth would ever do if given

the opportunity nope absolutely not it's wild and the training's insane it's my god it's probably the hardest work i think you're right about that i think it's the hardest work you can die at any given moment yep and there's so many different skills it's not just boxing it's not just wrestling it's it's not just jujitsu you know it's it's all of it together um yeah like you said you can die i'm sure i'm surprised we haven't seen anyone die in there yet but well we don't that's the thing we don't hear about it because we haven't seen people die as far as i know like at least in the last like boxers have died like you've heard of that yes i'm surprised but ufc hasn't had that no it hasn't been around long enough maybe i don't i don't know it's technically been around like 26 27 years but it it's only been that was like the barbaric like bare knuckle stuff right i think stick two guys in there with no gloves and just let them go

fighting on the rules you could bite gouge eye there was nothing they were fighting on indian reservations like that was some barbaric shit. If there's cameras rolling, everybody wins. Some Kimbo Slice shit. Right, right. But I don't think... RIP Kimbo Slice. Yeah, dude. I forget he's dead sometimes.

Remember his videos? Oh, they were insane. Yeah. I used to watch those and be like, oh, so that's how you do it. He was just studying. In Miami, I think he was fighting. And what's his name?

The other MMA fighter. Masvidal. Yeah. Masvidal was the best. They were part of the the same crew i don't think they ever fought each other but they were just beating everybody up in miami in the streets way too dead i i think they do like have in some of those things like they won't let an enormous person fight a small person yeah kimbo's way out of his yeah yeah but matt dude you ever seen his

videos street fighting like watch them from back then from back and like yeah yeah it was wild dude wild stuff respect yeah like i don't know what to tell you but that's just you're you're born you're born from a different breed like the guys doing that are born with the same thing that like the navy seals are born oh yeah like all those people like you look at what the navy seals and the army rangers do you're like yo you got gotta have a screw loose For sure. Yeah, and then how healthy is it? Right? Yeah, that's the question can't be healthy like John bones Jones He's probably I heard Rogan say this the other day and I agreed a thousand percent. He probably

Isn't John bones Jones unless All the other stuff comes with it. Like all the craziness. Yeah. And it's like that in the NFL too. A lot of those players have similar – that's what makes them great. That's what makes some of those players great. Do you ever – because you're not saying this,

but you were a great football player. Played D1 all four years true freshman a whole bit i always say if you were an inch taller yeah and then therefore your arms were a touch longer yeah you'd have been playing at bc and be playing on sundays for sure yeah i mean i'm happy with how it worked out um i'm happy with i have no regrets you know going to bucknell and and starting and playing all four years that was obviously a blessing if i went to bc i probably would have um you know started playing around junior year maybe so it could have been it could not you never know you can't look at it like that um but do you ever feel any any fight because you played downhill

you were dn and you were you were a bull rush guy downhill right down just like the uh the gmail which i still use to this day uh you scheduled this meeting on the bull rush email yeah i i made it i made an email when we were in college called at bull rush dmc 52 at at like 10 o'clock on a tuesday because you needed to accept an invite to something and I'm like, fuck it, I'll make you one. I wasn't answering the emails. So you said, now you have no excuse, I made you one. I'm like, shit.

You're right. And it's still around today? But do you ever feel like any fogginess from that? Fogginess from what? Like brain fog, anything? I actually feel pretty good right now. That's great i i during a couple of the years during yeah definitely uh i feel good now though i feel like i'm i'm healed up for the most part you know i'm not there's been no contact you know right no contact

sports uh a workout just just to stay healthy but um i feel good that's great man yeah i feel good because i think sometimes like you know those nfl guys get lucky but unlucky too because then they keep going i don't i don't envy i don't envy them and i wouldn't want even if i could have went to the nfl i don't think i would have i think that was 17 years was was enough for me i believe you too yeah a lot of people are like yeah bullshit i actually i do believe you because i know that i don't i know i can make money in a thousand other ways yes so that's why why not so why why why put my body and life and future at risk you know i love the game and i gave everything i had to the game but um i i wouldn't really want to go any further than that it's a lot it's a long toll, man.

It is. And it was a dream from when I was young. But everything changed. High school, no injuries. Pop Warner, no injuries. College, the injuries just started piling up. Everyone's bigger. Everyone's faster.

The collisions are harder. Yeah, you were going against Julian Davenport every day too. Every day. Left tackle in the NFL right now. Yeah. What team is he on now? I think he just got traded. He got in the NFL right now. Yeah. Yeah. He's, what team is he on now? He's on the, I think he just got traded.

He got traded from Miami to. I saw him play. I'll look it up. Keep talking. When the Jets played Miami last year or the year before, I saw him there. Yeah. Yeah.

He's having a good little career. He's what, like 6'8"? He's a good 6'8". Yeah. 6'8". Yeah. Paulsboro.

He's on the Colts now. No, he was on the Colts. I don't think he's still on the Colts. Oh, no. Bears. Bears. That's it.

Yeah. He got traded to the Colts and now he signed with the Bears. Yeah, because he was on the Colts with Quentin Nelson, another Jersey boy. Yeah. He was in that trade, that Houston Laramie Tunsil trade. Yeah. When he had been a rookie. Yep.

He protected Deshaun. We'll get into that. Deshaun Watson's blind side. He played decent. He did. The whole line was bad. Yeah. They needed that.

Yeah. That whole line got exposed a little bit. Yeah. But, hey, he's making some money. He is. He signed a couple good contracts. And he's a good kid, too. Great guy. um and he's a good kid too great guy yeah he's a good kid really good guy i think i only ever met him like hi but great guy yeah that's as much as

you can say about it yeah no he i think that's about it yeah i knew this um when he came in on his visit um i think he was at penn state and pit and temple before that came there and i was like i mean this kid's obviously special if we get him we'll be lucky yeah that was also like a really mature long-term decision he made because he took a risk doing that he went down to d1 well yeah FBS now right or whatever FCS FCS yeah he he um didn't start playing football I don't think until he was a basketball player yeah he's backing up my cousin Adam in high school over here. At Paulsboro?

Yeah, yeah. My cousin's like 6'3". Really? He's like 6'8", 6'9", backing him up because he's playing center. Yeah. It's like, what are you going to do? Yeah, no, I played basketball with him in college. He's good.

He could have played college basketball if he wanted to. He was still coming into his own when we were there with football. Oh, yeah. He was a freshman. But I think yeah freshman freshman sophomore but he he was he was still yeah he was he was still good you know he was he was solid he's huge he's huge yeah and athletic how about that watson thing though what deshaun yeah what do you think of that if you're sleeping for eight hours a night but you feel like you're only getting six what if i told you you could flip that around and sleep six hours a night and feel like you're sleeping

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months? Do you know anyone? No, that's, that's a weird flex. That's excessive. That's weird. That's strange. I got that. I think I got that one wrong. I kind of went when it first came out. 68. Yeah. I'll check it. It was the the new york times report they they had it backed up with evidence and everything it was over around 17 months and it was in the 60s but i'll check the exact number was it consensual all of them that's the thing man well they have screenshots of women back then who texted him back like that wasn't okay or whatever he's like oh i'm sorry what afterwards yeah it's like was it like it yeah i i don't know i you never know these days when it came out i was real sketched out by that lawyer on the other side

because he was neighbors with the texans he was beefing with the texans the lawyer is like he thought he was one of those like weirdo like trump guys you know yeah and i'm like this seems like a textbook setup seem fishy yeah and then what do you he only got what a six game suspension though or something like that well for now they just appealed it it's i guess like thursday today so i think tomorrow the appeals due and then when this episode comes out on wednesday or thursday it might yeah be done. And apparently the NFL signed a new CBA or a new agreement within the last CBA that makes these things third party.

So they give it out to a former federal judge. There's a list of judges they agree to, something like that. And the judge then makes his or her ruling and then rules on suspension and fines. Yeah. But they are, each side is allowed to appeal it. When they appeal it, it goes right back to the NFL. Mm-hmm.

So the NFL is playing with house money. Yeah. Because they can dislike the result and appeal it right back to themselves. So that's what they did. But I get why they did it. Yeah, of course. Because you got Calvin Ridley missing a whole season for betting $1500 on his own team

in a game he wasn't playing I'm not saying it was the right thing to do small mistake $1500 parlay what's the point of that? it was just a dumb mistake something for fun Jim knows him pretty well

he's an awesome dude something we all could do by accident It was a dumb mistake. Something for fun. Yeah, Jim knows him pretty well. He's an awesome dude. It's just like he wasn't thinking. You know, like something we all could do, you know, by accident. Yeah. He did. Got quite fessed up to the whole thing. Got caught. Did he hit the bat?

I don't think so. His team lost? I think he lost. It was a parlay. It was multiple teams. I think one of them was his team. It was the Falcons. Yeah, I don't really bet on sports anymore.

No. No. It's a trap. Yeah, it I don't really bet on sports anymore. No. No. It's a trap. Yeah, it's such a trap. Always a trap. But, you know, getting a six-game suspension, it's like... It doesn't... I mean, there were 30 women.

Yeah. 30. Mm-hmm. It's a lot. I thought you said 68 women. No. There were 30 accusers. Oh, okay.

But he went to 68 massage parlors in 17 months. I didn't even know there were 68 massage parlors within a given geographic region you can't find a girlfriend or like he had a girlfriend i think it's not enough it's a fetish man yeah that's it like when you go on and you see all those all the porn categories like massage table and shit like that's not my thing but that's a lot of people's thing yeah dude millions of views i don't see it but i guess it doesn't seem that cool to me but yeah i don't know i don't think it's cool like i don't get that whole no like there's people who like get off on like the the thrill shading yeah the thrill of of doing something wrong i guess yeah right like i think everyone's got like a little piece of that

yeah but it's a different level when it's not like a when it's a potentially not consensual encounter that's different very different very different you know yeah and they just paid him what 200 mil i think all right 200 and maybe it was like 250. it was a lot yeah five-year deal they put all the money in the last four years so if he gets suspended this year oh he doesn't get any loses minimum money i think he's making 800 grand this year wow i didn't know that was the deal and a lot of it where all of it maybe is guaranteed what all 200 million is guaranteed yeah so he doesn't have to play five years nothing he gets it he gets it wow imagine like being the team making that decision while this is all still hanging out

there come on i don't know i don't know what they're doing that sounds silly it is the browns it is the browns it is the browns you can't really put it past them right uh he imagined being baker mayfield though it's like he did he's in carolina car yeah that gave it everything he had from yeah it might be might be but like he gave it everything he had there number one overall pick everything now he need to play better but still like yeah he was a law-abiding citizen good guy you know good leader yeah they're like we need an adult in the room signs to sean watson yeah oh man the sean it's just you know what though there was a guy there's a guy in cleveland talking about this i didn't agree with everything he said but he was talking about

how this was just like our politics there's team deshaun and there's team bad deshaun and bad deshaun never wants him to play again and team deshaun thinks he didn't do a goddamn thing uh-huh and he's like what if you're both kind of wrong yeah right which is really what it is because it sounds like to give him this he didn't forcibly rape anybody there was none of that that would be this would be a whole different conversation if he did that but you can't do that. Didn't the owner of, was it Robert Kraft doing that? He had a similar rap sheet. Not like that. Everyone swept that right under the rug.

No one cared about that. They tried to do something. That didn't last long. Get out of here. He kicked that can down the street. Well, he went into a traditional you know yeah rub it like a traditional if you if you catch my drift yeah where that's what they do yeah and then that's their expertise just decide to raid and he's in there you know 80 year old with a boner

and he's like oh sorry i wasn't doing a thing yeah there was a fake quote going around of him right after the watson suspension where they put it they put out a tweet this one account put out a tweet with the picture like the official like media looking thing and it said robert craft the sean watson suspension is an embarrassment to the league and frankly it should have been much longer that's great that's good stuff people believed it too yeah i'm like that's good that's fake but it's good that's good that's really that's really good imagine being an owner of a team though that's good stuff people believed it too yeah i'm like that's good that's fake but it's good that's good that's really that's really good imagine being an owner of a team though that's the seat that's what you i would like to right i would like to that would uh so gary v's goal is to own the jets um i would like to own the giants or anyone else i mean that'd be fun

i think that would be fun. I think it's also cool when you look at a lot of these owners, they never played. No, none of them. They were never – Not one. I think a couple of them. Yeah?

Yeah, I'd have to go look through. But there's guys who, like, played and Jerry Jones played in college. Yeah. Right? Was it college or high school? He played at Arkansas. Arkansas, wow. He played with –

I didn't know that. He played with Jimmy Johnson, I think, at Arkansas. Arkansas. There's a lot of I thinks today. I gotta check all this stuff again. So keep me honest in the comments. We got some fact checkers out there. They'll do it for us.

Yeah, they'll do it for us. They'll do it for us. They always do. But there's a few who did. But I'm saying, like, you know, Jeffrey Lurie. Those hands have never seen anything. You know what I mean? never touched dirt no disrespect i'm just saying like i feel like even even with the guys like if you look in the nba jordan is not a good owner no because he's too much of a cutthroat competitor to his own fault sometimes sometimes it doesn't translate right but i coach and you

know i feel like other guys could be like i feel like the wayne wade would be a great owner yeah right there's guys who carry both yeah a little bit i think lebron might be a good owner i think he's a part owner in a soccer team right is it a chelsea or man you doesn't isn't he a part owner in one of those one of them it might be liverpool liverpool that sounds right it's one of the english again another thing we gotta check it's one of the english teams yeah but he he owns it with uh he owns it with the owners of the red socks wait doesn't he own part of the red socks too lebron and i'm pretty sure he owns part of the red socks and the other the other day on the show he was asked what's the most racist sports city oh boston yeah i saw that i saw that notoriously they were i mean it's like you do own the team yeah maybe don't say that one out yeah

yeah back in in bill russell rip back in his time that was one of the most racist cities yeah he went to war you really did there were a couple like there was a few years where he didn't yeah engage with the fan base at all yeah it was a real thing yeah they are i did hear about some hard r's up there over the years in boston yeah yeah yeah nice city but i don't know if i could live there but it's you know nice to visit nice to visit sometimes i guess but yeah it's kind of like it's kind of weird though i think it's in the northeast yeah i don't know if it's still like that but back in the day it was definitely bad according to these guys yeah some of them still say it but yeah i said

that you get a few bad fans and then there's bad fans right it's bad fans in jersey there's bad fans in philly and that's what happens then they ruin the whole fan base because i don't think that's fair so in fairness to boston i'm sure it's not like whatever they were saying it was in the 60s yeah you know it's a different world yeah russell i didn't see russell coming man how old was he 88 88 i mean he was old but like it's bill russell yeah guy with god he's a winner winner winner best winner of all time any sport he's the reason will chamberlain is not the best to ever do it yeah he's the only reason yeah will chamberlain could do everything will chamberlain would dominate chamberlain today yeah he was a better

scorer but not a better winner dude he dribbled and ran like a point guard and he was seven foot one and yoked. Yeah. They don't make them like that. No. You ever seen the picture of him walking through New York in the summer? Nah. Like after his career. I have it on a t-shirt back there.

I've worn it on this podcast. Does it look ridiculous? Oh, dude. He was like, he died at 55, but he was like benching the day before he died. Like he was. How did he die? He died of heart attack just because he's tall. Yeah, those tall guys, they don't live too long.

They don't live too long. That's why it's surprising that Bill Russell lived to 88. What was he, 6'10"? Yeah, he was up there. No, I think he was 7'0". Yeah, he was 7'. I think he was the same height as Will. There's a picture. I'll show you the t-shirt afterwards.

But there's a picture of him show you the t-shirt afterwards but there's there's a picture of him just like not a pure 1970s picture with the with i can't i can't find it right now with the chain out you know the fucking beater i think the towel over the shoulder just walking up street in chelsea it's fucking great i'm like that's that's great i mean that that man did uh allegedly bed 10 000 women 10 000 10,000? 10,000. Wow. That's a lot. Yeah. I thought Drake had a lot.

We're not talking about that Drake. No, we're not talking about that Drake. We're talking about a different Drake. I guess that can apply too. That can definitely apply to both. Both Drake's. 10,000. 10,000 is excessive. Magic Johnson, what's he at?

He's at a good 1,000, right? I don't think... We'll give him 1,000? I don't think... We'll give him a thousand? I don't think that's kosher to talk about. No? No good? In fairness, then. No?

Yeah. We'll leave Magic out of this? Yeah. We'll leave Magic out of this one? Put some respect. Yeah. Another owner who played Magic. He owns the Dodgers.

Well, he owned the Lakers, didn't he? Or was he just a... No, he was the president. Yeah, okay. Just like the head of basketball operations or something he stepped down from that though right yeah yeah he was another guy i think he got in his own way because he's like it doesn't work sometimes with those all-time greats and that's why like i'm gonna be very curious about lebron because as an all-time great he has some of those same mentalities not all of them what the ego

with being able to judge the game. Yeah. I mean, they call him the GM for a reason. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, the guy says, I want that dude. Because he can.

Because he can. He earned that right. He's not always right. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So that'll be interesting to see. He's put together some good teams, though.

He has, man. You know? He's amazing. He's amazing. His career is incredible. He changed the game. You know? And he's a good businessman,'s amazing he's amazing his change he changed the game you know and he's a good businessman too he's good father he's a good husband he's he's all of it the thing about like it's so impressive what they've done with clutch sports they're the most powerful agency in basketball

and now they're working their way to football they're gonna be the most powerful agency in the world mm-hmm mean, they are in basketball already. But, you know, the people that I've talked to over there are awesome. But I think... Doesn't *** work for them? Yeah. Yeah, he works with them. And, like, they're great.

But, like, have you seen this Miles Bridges thing? No. What? Who's their client? I know who he is, but I don't know. You see what he got arrested for? No. He beat the ever-living shit out of his wife in front of his kids.

This is two days before he's about to sign a five-year, $180 million contract. Oh, good. He's been charged with three felonies. You don't hear nothing about it. No, I haven't heard it. First time I heard it right here. No tweets from Shams on it. who's their guy right woj like retweeted a story about it when he was charged that day like midday on july 20th you have heard nothing this was going to be literally

one of the top three free agents on the market not a word no not a word i don't like that no that's that's sketchy and like they haven't fired him he's still on and now look innocent before proven guilty but like they have video of his kid describing the whole thing the whole internet scene yeah it doesn't it's heartbreaking doesn't sound good no i worry about that like you know these are big institutions you know sports are a big deal yeah when you get when you get companies that are like completely in charge of it you know it's i'm not they don't endorse that obviously that's i'm not people will make that accusation i'm not going to do that but i'm saying like by association type thing you think of the bottom line so much that you kind of forget about the whole concept of you know what what we're

really what really matters here that's a shame yeah I feel bad for the wife and kids it's awful man yeah and then like and the wife is sister-in-law with Andrew W wiggins and then draymond green who's a clutch guy is working out with miles bridges after this they're all they're all clutch guys all three of those guys well no wiggins isn't oh okay he's just but draymond is like you gotta have a little more tact than that yeah you know what i mean yeah it's fucked up that's no good but he's like a rapper too who is miles bridges good any good it's not the worst thing i've ever heard i mean now damien still has the crown for them yeah i think so yeah he's got the worst thing i've ever heard but like well the word's pretty nice they they used to they used

to joke like oh he's trying to make it out the league yeah he's setting himself up oh man oh you can't that's just like that's one of those things in today's society it's bad you can't come back from that no you can't you know nope you're done yeah it's got it's got to be weird though like you know you were in locker rooms and stuff when people do shit and then it's like well that's your teammate yeah you don't know whether to right yeah because you don't want to defend them obviously and it's all and unfortunately it's all about how things look too yeah you know yeah that's all society really gives a shit about. Mm-hmm. It's crazy.

Yep. Speaking of rapping, do you have any of those videos of you and Spear rapping back in college? I don't know what you're talking about. I think we rapped

in here one time. In this studio? I have no idea what you're talking about. Yes, you do. Not a clue. Mm-hmm. I've never rapped

a day in my life. On these mics, we did. I doubt it. It was pretty good too. I think it was someone else. No? I'm pretty sure it was someone else now i'm pretty sure must have been spear just spear yeah we'll leave we'll leave it as beer yeah i'm not and your fans know spear i'm not gonna yeah i'm not gonna accuse him either if they still i'm just saying like thank god quinn broke that computer I had in college. Because that hard drive, wow.

Had some stuff. Wow. Yeah. Nothing horrible. But just like, if Spear ever ran for office, there'd be a lot of keg stands going out on the main street. Which might help him, actually, come to think of it. I'm just saying. And you said he might be going for office, he said, right?

You think he's going to do it I think he would be good but I don't think that he would like all the bullshit that comes along with it I don't think it's worth his time honestly five years ago I would have told you a thousand percent he's doing it now

older, wiser I don't know I don't speak for him but I get the sense that he's far less enthused about it really who would be no it's not who wants to do that nothing sexy about it you can't you can't please everybody exactly you never can so you know at least half the people are gonna hate you yep um it's just a lot of a lot of bullshit that comes along with it i wouldn't want to be a politician and then we can't see things logically either like you look at i mean you saw what pelosi just did right went to taiwan yeah so you can dislike

nancy pelosi she's the typical dc insider i can't stand her you know also insider trader like all these things but like one of the nice things coming out that seems to be a little bipartisan now and it's not just this it's been happening like there's been letters coming from congress and stuff is that you know for a while there it looked like the whole china thing was going to be this right wing thing and now the left is getting it yeah it's fine it looks like there's finally something that we can agree on and the question is and this is the big question you don't like how far do you go to make that clear while also not causing something to happen you know what I mean yeah nobody wants

that no nobody wants that war no sir definitely not I mean china there's there's like a billion point something people there yeah their military i imagine our military is still the best in the world but their military is bigger we don't want any wars no no we we don't want that do you think the war whatever the next war is i think the next war is going to be you know cyber or right that's what i was gonna ask yeah we're not no boots on the ground no muskets you know no weapon that they think it's all just gonna be cyber what does that look like though does that include like shutting off power grids yeah you know what i mean watching people starve and starve and die i would assume that's what it would be And the only three countries who are probably capable of that are

Russia, China, and the U.S. Probably. You know? Don't count on India. Yeah. But I would still probably agree with you. I bet India's not all the way there yet. Nah, people gave me a lot of shit when I talked about that with Russia.

But the thing that does give me hope is that I do think we have all the powers and some. Yeah. That they do. The question is, you know, when a dictator, whether it's Xi or Putin, when they get their back against the wall for some reason. Yeah. You know, they don't give a fuck about anybody. No. They sure don't. So they can still, even if we do do something bad like they can still do damage like it's not worth it like no if somebody nuked here and then we went in and got the country like

well we still that still happened yeah you can't undo that no you know what i mean no i hope nukes i hope we never get to that but i hope so too man boostamante scares me with some of that more off camera than on actually yeah yeah because he you know guys like that they're trained to look at the world so objectively and they also they've seen the worst that exists yeah and they've

they've probably seen some of it from their own ranks yeah so they know realities that you and I do not right we're sheltered from that

right yeah yeah he he sees it through a different lens I'm sure I did that we can't relate to I try to think about that

I try to remember that it's like you know i'm in an arm i'm in an armchair here yeah you know it's a nice chair we that's what that's a nice studio that's yeah yeah i've gotten a few congrats on the studio man this is this is this is nice thanks bro we did we did well with the top notch here top notch equipment this is good stuff man i'll say it again i proud of you. Thank you very proud of you I mean just knowing where you were, you know working at a job that you know It was it was good, but it wasn't your passion, you know And it's good to see you fulfilling your passion now because that's that's what I want all my friends family Colleagues I want everyone to do something that they're passionate about not just you know, like nine-to-five and rat race

That's why you're a great friend too yeah because you also kind of figured that out for yourself i'd say yeah it's close between you and connor connor rough patch for like a year and then he really figured it out and probably did yeah you probably did it about the same time too and then the rest i mean spear kind of knew what way he was going to go too but he's still you know he's still feeling it out yeah like we said yeah so i i appreciate that because you know you can make all the money in the world but it's not it's not worth anything yeah if you don't you have to enjoy how you make money you have to wake up and be excited about

your day yeah i'm not saying you got to get romantic about it no no but i'm saying you got it you can't not like how the income's coming in there's people who will do that no problem i'm just not one of them i'm not either you know yeah but then you know it's also like rewarding too because then i mean shit dude yeah teach me some fucking classes around here wait are you looking at real estate right now yeah what are you looking at um some multi-family um just rentals um i dabbled with with i was looking at some commercial stuff um but the market's crazy right now um but i would like to do it somewhere in the south not really new Jersey's not New Jersey's taxes

are crazy the prices are crazy where in the Texas Florida the good places yeah Texas Florida Carolina Carolina's yeah you know what I mean what's the tax situation in Carolina it's I don't think it's as good as Florida and Texas but it's it's still a lot better than here because texas is what one percent income tax yeah if one or zero if that and then florida's zero you know that florida zero that's huge my friend gibbons is moving uh dallas right outside of dallas that doesn't surprise me no it doesn't that was calling his name for a long time he wasn't he wasn't uh built for this did he did he move to a different company? No, I think he's working remotely. So he can just work remotely down there.

Still make the New York money. Every time I look at his Instagram story, I still can't believe he lives in New Jersey. I know. I'm like, dude, world's out there. You're speaking it into existence, man. So now he's doing it. He's moving right outside, 30 minutes outside of Dallas.

That's cool. Yeah, bought a four-bedroom house for the price of one or two-bedroom here. so now he's doing it he's moving right outside 30 minutes outside of dallas that's cool yeah bought a four-bedroom house for the price of a one or two bedroom here you know big plot of land you know uh jersey's jersey's tough at real estate yeah man and it's tough the farther north you go exactly yeah 10 x's yeah it's 10 x's anywhere along the coast or north yeah it's it's brutal going in the shop right here after all this inflation and stuff yeah i still am not at the price levels that i was at shopping at the shop right up there in north jersey morristown two years later yeah with all this i'm still not even there no it's like it's i'm telling people like i'll look at it's a cool spot

down here yeah yeah it's cool spot down here. Yeah. Yeah. South Jersey doesn't get enough credit. And it's not going to last, though, too, because I think I might have been telling you this last week, but I really think in the next 20 years, they're going to have, whether it's a Hyperloop or something that's a speed train all over. Elon Musk. A little underground subway.

Blink your eye and you're in New York from here. It'll get people to New York fast. And you're gonna see the prices yeah in south jersey yeah i mean like suddenly is gonna be worth something yeah it's gonna be like north jersey yeah i could be totally wrong about that but that's my guess i mean the way technology's going i wouldn't bet against it i mean it's never bet against technology it's already happened in bucks county without technology. Yeah. You know? Yep.

They got... They just have helipads out there. Yeah, that's a nice... Yeah, they got a little nice thing a little going on out there. That's how you know you're in a different... You're in a different neighborhood.

When you see helipads, you're like, oh, we're... This isn't Kansas anymore. Yeah. No, we don't see that too often around here. No.

No. No, that's a whole different level of wealth. Mm-hmm. I just don't... like i i don't have a lot of interest in going in a helicopter i gotta tell you i've been in i've been in one um there's a lot more accidents in helicopters than planes and i think cars too i believe that's right yeah um there's not a lot of margin for error there i feel like no you know it moves off its axis a

little bit wrong and you're done my dad my dad took me in a uh in a state police one over trenton back in the day that was fun i would like to do the one over new york city too yeah it's so cool yeah when you see those they're like little flies when you're coming up on the city yeah you seem like buzzing around yeah that'd be a cool thing i just did the new york city cruise on the on the boat that was that was a fun experience though left from chelsea went around south manhattan up to brooklyn is that all day no it was a uh evening thing a good dinner cruise from seven seven p.m to like 11 p.m good for the lady yeah she liked that yeah she was all about that yeah of course it's nothing like the skyline man no it's especially after the sun goes

down yeah it's so much better yeah and then we went we went past the statue of liberty alicia keys was playing in new york it was that's my that's my girl she's actually gonna be in ac she's gonna be in hard rock i saw that and i going to be in AC. She's going to be in Hard Rock. I saw that. And I'm going to be in Hard Rock. Is that the end of this month? It's Saturday. Oh, it's this weekend.

Yeah. When I'm going to be there. Dude, she's amazing. I know. I want to come back and watch that concert. I don't know. I'm not sure what time the... I think the comedy show starts around 6 or 7.

I'm not sure what time she goes on, but I want to see her's she's underappreciated she's my favorite right very she's so good like we forget i forget sometimes to like put her name in there with like voices you hear that new song the city of gods by her yes that's what kanye right kanye's in it yeah there's a couple other people yeah yeah that's a good one no she's she's amazing she is amazing and she was like i don't it sounds like she's not doing it much anymore but she was in she did some with that acting too she was in smoking aces she was great in that it's a good movie we need to get her in more movies yeah right yeah make the world a better place for sure love elusia yeah but i'm telling you dude i get i know exactly what you're saying when i go up 78 like i went

up to new york for giovanni's and and what he'd sing last month and like i hadn't seen the skyline and it is nice like six months or something there's no skyline just like oh that's the best skyline for sure and the mob built the whole thing yeah blood sweat and tears baby it's a lot of hard work a lot into that a ton you shut the fuck up kid i don't know you don't know i gotta have you in here when i have when i start getting some of these mobsters to come in it's gonna have you sit right there and maybe a fly on the wall mean mug them the whole time yeah sit there don't say anything yeah you got some good ones coming in who you got i'm working on i got a guy coming in who's an author who's the man what a guy people are gonna love him he's he's got one of these voices julian let me tell you about

my career it's been quite a ride see the one who uh i don't know if i can give that away yeah but he wrote the book that became a movie or is that a different one different one different one different one yeah that was matt cox okay matt cox was already on once a gun runner yeah which then was adapted into war dogs without the permission of him and ephraim devroli who's based on yeah yeah but lou romano this one guy like he's he's great i think i think people will like him a lot he's coming in Lou Romano where is he from New York yeah he's coming in next month he's written like 20 books

do you have anyone yeah I'm working on when you're done send some my way I will he sent them in hard copy too I haven't read a hard copy book

since the Vietnam War it's great but he got the Kindle yeah I'm probably going to buy it on the Kindle too and have the hard copy there's something different about the hard copy I don don't it too much work no it's a

lot of work but it's nice to have you know it's great it's great to have it's great that you're right i listen to most of my books on audible but you're an audiobook guy yeah i am do you ever zone out yeah but i zone out while reading too so that i think i zone out um fair i do it while driving while doing tasks you know because you can kind of zone out on a podcast for a minute and you're okay yeah with a book yeah it's tough yeah you lose like a key play it's like he went over her house and then 10 minutes later you're like wait how the fuck did they get there? Yeah. No, I do like the audiobooks. Yeah. I do. You never done it?

I think I listened to one one time years ago, and I had to keep on restarting. Well, you don't get the visual, too. So it's all audio. That's the other thing. So sometimes it's hard to make the connection. There's something about reading the words and get like i am an audio visual guy yeah that's how i describe myself yeah but with the written book being audio in my head reading then you get bold and i have the actual physical words that i'm looking at reinforced

yeah yeah so like when i hear the color red versus when i see the color red written on the page this is a good way to explain it that is a good way that's that color red written on the page this is a good way to explain it that is a good way that's that has more effect on the page for me yeah like i i see red that connection yeah exactly yeah exactly yeah i wonder if it's like that it's probably like that with podcasts too i would i would assume so yeah yeah because i'm like i've always been like a passive podcast listener do you find that when you watch podcasts you just listen or do you actually you watch as well well now because i work in a studio all the time and i have three screens if it's a video yeah i throw it up on the third screen do you think a lot of

your listeners watch or just listen yeah man yeah they're not commuting to work and listening to you there's plenty of those yeah but it's not just it doesn't hit the same right no and it's good to see faces it's good to see mannerisms movements you know that's how you carry yourself that's important too i don't when i have it on that screen i'm not watching it i'm working yeah but when something's happening yeah and like it's you know when it's a key moment you feel it suddenly you're like and you turn there for a minute that's nice i like that and we have video on spot Spotify now for this podcast so now people who want to listen on audio only and YouTube actually lets you exit the app now and it stays playing okay it's huge that is huge so now Spotify and YouTube are both doing

that surprise it took that long to figure that out all right that's pretty dumb that they didn't yeah that was that was uh that was ancient they used to do that and then they took it away really Yeah back in the day, huh? I used to be able to play idea. Was that They're fired. They're gone. Well fire. Well in fairness to them. None of these places existed Spotify wasn't a thing Yeah video didn't have as much competition. I guess yeah, they didn't have the time competition with tick-tock, right? There wasn't as much video centric stuff there was but not like it is today on like facebook and instagram things like that so i get it but yeah now i put it i put it up there but when i was researching for this podcast i realized you know i was always going

to do the video because it makes it official but i realized at the time this is at the beginning of the pandemic so the data i guess is based on the end of 2019. i think it was i always forget but it was like 30 or 35 of people watched podcasts they didn't listen and i was like who the is watching these yeah i i was an apple podcast yeah like yeah plug it in go about my day i don't sit around yeah but dude people watch the out of it yeah it's interesting yeah it's interesting how uh when did podcasts start coming around i know and even high school not really and even college not as much right the first time i ever heard the word podcast was like 2004 2005 that early but it wasn't like this no nothing like this it was like

you would you would like the radio used to do it they would say i remember i was a little kid and they'd be like you we're gonna do a listener podcast hour you tell us the songs to play and what like that was a podcast because people were listening on an ipod yeah but then the guy adam curry apparently invented the term i think before that adam curry yeah who rogan then found that's the og adam curry yeah rogan says he's the godfather the podfather the podfather i like that yeah interesting dude yeah and then i mean let's call it what it is rogan launches in 29 2009 and he made this thing he's a talented guy he made this thing yeah that's that's tom brady yeah he's a talented individual

no doubt about that it's it's amazing the influence he has and i can't imagine you know i'm sure he doesn't handle every single thing right but holy shit does he handle things well yeah he does i can't imagine any and he's himself which is what i like and a lot of people like he's himself and and he's you know unapologetic for it you know exactly you know so if i mean like him or hate him he's still gonna be himself and you are too and i'm the same way and that's why we both relate to him you know i'm not gonna change for anybody you're not gonna change for anybody that's what we do here man you're the same guy on camera right now too that's right this is always you throwing me three words of things and say what do you think jules yeah like all right yeah okay yeah

no that's that's what you want you want to you want a podcast this is my first you're popping my cherry here on the podcast in your podcast yeah really i've never been on a podcast no one never did one of the brick ones no there's i mean there's there's no podcast like this in brick you never did the Rose McDonald podcast? She should have one. I would listen. Rose should have one. Yeah, she always wanted her own talk show.

That would be funny. I would, yeah. Should we start one with her? You should. I think we should. I would listen. Yeah, I think we should. She's great.

She needs me on video, too. She does. It cannot be audio. You got to do it justice. Must. Multi-angled. The whole bit. Yeah. You got it there with Justin. Must. Multi-angled. The whole bet. Yeah. That's actually a good idea.

The first time I ever met your mom. That's a funny way to start that. That's what we're talking about, though. Yeah. But the first time I ever met your mom was the 2013 Memorial Day bash. We were all underage. And I show up to the house. It's like 2 o'clock.

Me, Drake, Spear. You don't think it was earlier than that? 2012? It like two o'clock me drake spear you don't think it was earlier earlier in that 2012. it was one o'clock or two it was early no 20 2012 no it was 2013. yeah it was 2013. all right me drake spear and what did we have one no ebes wasn't with us i think when quinn was there right vinnie pinney was there? Quinn was there the next year. Quinn wasn't there the first year with us. I think it was me, Drake, and Spear rolled up. And we walk out back. And your mom is just knocked out with two feet in the pool, laid back like Jesus.

On the concrete. And you're introducing us. And you're like, and that's my mom. I'm like, oh, I'll go introduce myself. And you're like, no. Give it an hour. And she gets up up and I'm like oh damn

when do we get started around here she comes back to life quick dude she can rally she's Lazarus she invented the rally

she's Jesus on the third day she really is she rose again she gets after it I like that I see what you did there pun intended I see what you did there

you were waiting all day for that one yeah I was you were waiting all day rose I was like damn I really gotta I gotta up my weight around here this is uh she doesn't mess around different level i see where you get it she she handles it

well she could drink a lot of people i know under the table yeah yeah but that backyard's dangerous it is the and the tiki made it way worse oh yeah the tiki a good touch, but it made it worse. Made it worse. The shots just fly. Yeah. Yeah. It's not. It's, you know, you can wake up the next day and forget for sure. Yeah, absolutely. This was the first year we didn't do it in maybe 10, 15 years.

I was sad. I was sad. Last year sucked because it was raining. It was raining. Yeah, we had the tent. We still did it. Yeah, we still did it yeah we still did it still did it that's a good we'll bring it back next year yeah we'll bring that's like a holiday it is a circle on the calendar it is i'm like brick day uh-huh 2022 2023 it's we're doing it next year all right good mark my words i miss like i like how we still do that kind of stuff but i miss the days when it was like like i miss being underage i guess you know what i mean it

was more fun yeah right it was special it was special it was like oh look at us yeah it hit different your dad's like a cop too uh-huh like where it popped along yeah but you were there when the cops came a couple times right yeah yeah cops came i was there for that because we yeah there's a mike spear story remember that which when the cops came and we lost them now where did your mom found him where do you hop the fence where'd he go no this is he was like at the time because you guys were playing at the time yeah he was the biggest he ever was he was six three about 320 325 yeah built two yeah and we're in the house your dad's like don't leave the house don't leave the house because it was we've been there for like nine this was the first year we've been there for like nine hours we're all hammered this wasn't

Ryan Cole you're talking about well that happened that's a separate story because ryan tried leaving too but all right didn't work out no it didn't work your dad's like everyone get in the house and so then ryan did his whole thing yeah and we're just like i don't know 45 50 of us in there and wasn't he floating around in the pool yeah yeah so we're we're chilling you're like kind of out front your dad's out front he knows all these guys so he's taking care of it there's like a noise complaint yeah and he was out there for a long time so obviously he was just like having a good time with that letting us all suffer and stuff yeah and so everything had kind of calmed down your mom's like uh we're just

sitting there in the kitchen and then suddenly like she's looking she's looking and she looks at me and she goes where's Michaelael i mean how do you lose the biggest guy in here as if you're you're in charge of them i'm looking around i'm like well gee i don't know mcdonald and then suddenly i look and i'm like scanning in the back deck window was that clear sliding glass and i'm scanning and suddenly i see a figure you see a 300 pound figure in the pool there's not there's darkness but the pool light is You see a 300 pound figure in the pool? There's darkness but the pool light is on and there's a figure in the middle of the pool

lighting a cigarette. With a stove? And smoking and staring right into the house. That's great. And I go there! There he is. And your mom goes running and I go running behind her like four of us coming and she's like Michael what are you doing? And he's like undeterred. He's like well I like talking to cops when cops come over.

He does. He does. I am underage. I'm also trying to be a lawyer. And your mom's like cursing him at this point. I'm like, get the fuck out of the pool. He's like, well, I figured when your husband said not to go talk to the cops if i got into this pool and started smoking they can't get me here i wouldn't actually have the the audacity to walk out of it this is way

too comfortable so i picked the pool it's not make sense i can't disagree with his uh logic there that was oh man spear oh god good guy i haven't seen spirit uh since since my birthday uh last year that wasn't that long ago no october of last year i think i saw no no no we had the engagement party that's right that's right yeah he was there for that yeah he got a hotel that was in march he did most mike spear move of all time yeah i got a hotel down the street yeah and seaside i love that he's such a little classy bitch it's so funny yeah that was a good time that you get your part people get a small piece of him on here like he's all himself but like he got pretty drunk on here didn't he on the whiskey towards the end of it i mean i got drunker yeah the first time number 39 that was a wild well how many did you have there a lot couple dude how many of these a lot mm-hmm

there's the whole last hour I forgot the cameras were still I thought we closed it up so like you know obviously we still weren't in podcast we weren't talking about anything so bullshit like you couldn't use in the episode but I still went and watched just to see trashed we were good stuff oh man yeah rare when your dog bit his hand that was classic dude his fans fans loved that one huh his face yeah that's it was funny yeah misogynist yeah in spear fashion oh man that's what i'm saying i can't see him running for office i can't see that guy running for office no no but maybe that would be good to have a politician who's a real genuine person you know i actually think mike would quit i think he pulled john runyon yeah i don't think he would deal with that.

I think if he ran for like rep and went down there, he wouldn't run again. Yeah. I think he'd be like, oh, fuck these people. Are you talking like local or big show? Nope, I'm talking in DC. He'd probably hate the local more. Yeah. Yeah. It's more bullshit, probably.

Yeah. Did you hear about this latest potential new jersey scandal no what which one maybe we're really fucked up state yeah let's call what it is a lot of people hate us that well a lot of people hate us though yeah i realized that when i went to college yeah outside of new jersey hate the politicians don't hate us yeah right yeah that's fair that is fair well a lot of good people in jersey ton love me i love the state never lived anywhere else me too love it but do you remember in 2014 when the guy john sheridan who is the ceo of cooper hospital in camden was He and his wife were murdered in their home up in Skillman. Is that Bergen County, Skillman?

Skillman is... It's a really bougie, rural, wealthy neighborhood. It's like outside Princeton. It's more central. Oh, okay. What did he do? He left in dirt or something? No.

So, he and his wife are stabbed to death in their house on a Saturday night in the middle of the night. In a neighborhood. No one locked their doors. Yeah. Right? No one locked their doors in this neighborhood. And the house is set on fire.

Fire department's called. Takes them a half hour to move the armoire out of the way of the door. They go in there. They see the scene. They put put it out they're both dead stabbed bloody scene he was a beloved guy in new jersey who was a centrist the kind of guy who had been actually one of the few clean new jersey political operators like no one ever said a bad word about this dude took the job in camden as the ceo cooper health when he was like 60 or something in 2005 he did it for nine years and within three days i think the investigation had been so botched and they ruled it a murder suicide and do you think it was no they said they said the guy stabbed himself to death who the stabs himself all right i've killed my wife come on not how it works right so he has four kids the kids they were

they were home no no no they were all adults they were all they were all out there the kids one of whom the oldest was chris chris at the time chris christie's lead attorney for his campaign so connected the whole bit. They immediately are like, what the fuck? So they get Michael Bodden to look at the body. Michael Bodden is the guy who did MLK, JFK, Jeffrey Epstein,

George Floyd. Like, he's the greatest examiner ever. And he said, well, they've recovered two knives at the scene, right? Well, there's a third knife. Where's that one? Someone else was there. Yeah.

So quietly, goes unsolved, right? Goes away. I mean, huge murder. Everyone knew these. Everyone knew this couple. Right under the rug. Right? Goes away.

Okay. 2017, very quietly, this bunch of powerful people sign a document to say we want to change the cause of death on the official docket. It was ruled a suicide on John, the man's part. They want to change it to undetermined. Okay. So New Jersey says, no problem. We'll change it. No one hears anything about it then this year or i guess late last year she started a reporter up

at wnyc who covers new jersey politics nancy solomon said i'm gonna make a podcast on this and she goes and puts together this amazing seven-part podcast called dead end all about this case she and it's one of those witnesses are not witnesses but everything yeah it's one of those where she has that's kind of cool oh it's amazing it's it's well produced it's got music wow it's got live in-person interviews she would take the mics with her and talk to all different witnesses and stuff like that and you've watched all the episodes it's audio only and i listen to them it's like three hours long total okay so I listen to it all like one day. You can binge that right away. Amazing.

Everyone, it's called Dead End. It's on Apple, Spotify. She did a good job. Did an amazing job. And the audio's on YouTube too. But she, on episode four, mentions this guy, George Norcross. George Norcross was the chairman of the board is the chairman of the board of Cooper University Hospital he's also a name that most people don't

know I didn't even know it I'm embarrassed to that but I didn't know it who is he's the power broker politically in New Jersey he's not a billionaire but he's worth hundreds of millions of dollars and he basically runs in this case the democratic party but he's not a democrat okay it's weird like he and chris christie were best friends yeah right like it's all new jersey's different it's not democrats and republicans in state it's all weird shit yeah mostly corrupt so this lady mentions him in episode four just Just mentions him. Barely says a thing about him. Uh-oh. Gets a call from Michael Critchley, who's George Norcross's criminal attorney.

Uh-oh. Michael Critchley's like, Jim DiIorio's mentioned him on this podcast, like, voluntarily. He's like, he's the best defense attorney in the state, best I've ever seen. Wow. And Critchley gets him on a zoom and nancy records it with permission yeah and norcross is in there a couple other people are in there on mute no camera and it's just her and critchley and he's like mr norcross denies anything that could have to do with this case is this birdie this bird literally the guy almost sounds like i'm remembering that was burning right

there it's pretty close that was close but it's like he he denies anything and any allegation to such shall be met with litigation and we want you to say that you have no evidence to prove he had anything to do with this and she's like kind of taken aback which you know it honestly he in all likelihood had nothing to do with it yeah but like are you that dumb pr wise yeah like you make yourself look part of the story so then she in the next episode opens it up and says well here's the call and i will say that i have no she showed the call yeah yeah parts of it and and she's like i have no evidence to prove george snark cross had to do with it like what the fuck like why is he doing this geez and so she goes through and by it was supposed to be seven parts by the time she gets the seventh part she has to put out a mini

part it turns into eight parts because phil murphy reopens the investigation and now the fbi's on it jeez here's the kicker in 2014 two months before this murder, there was another murder. It was solved early this year. Admitted to everything. It was a political operative in New Jersey ordered a hit on another political operative. He was stabbed in his home in Jersey City and the house was set on fire. Same thing.

Same thing. Same thing. Burn all the evidence, right? Somebody whacked these people. Same one. Same person, right? Probably. Nancy Solomon scott to figure it out yeah is that the pocket that's the podcast lady yeah amazing we got to send her on that one right yeah you got to get her on here yeah i'll work on that yeah she'd be great she did a phenomenal job but that's the kind of sketchy shit that gives you know yeah all all politics are sketchy

i'm convinced there's a certain type of person who 95 of those people are yeah right yeah my one friend who i could who i think would do good would be pat kelly i think he'd be and he and he he's he's talked about doing it um i think he would be good i would agree pat kelly's man he's for the people he's a good guy yeah genuine as they come as the day is long you know yeah i think he would do good the cynic in me says though he won't last good people don't last in that shit that's true because they go fuck this yeah he can do anything that kid's talented he can do anything he's doing great in his career yeah he can do anything he wants yeah like they they don't like do you think trump really in a sober moment when you look back now do you think he likes that he did this

likes that he became president likes that he now subjected himself to all this that comes with it it's a lot of bullshit that he probably didn't need right he was a billionaire yeah i mean yeah he clearly didn't do it for the money friends with rich people yeah friends with famous people yeah i guess he was um i don't know if it was like a bucket list thing or or a pride thing or or just a new venture or or maybe i don't know i'm not sure i don't know either but i mean i do like the idea of having um politicians who um not not him per se but people who aren't politicians there that yes that can relate to people more you know obviously he was he was too much over the top and he was too polarizing and a lot of other things but i think if we get normal everyday people that can relate to the average human you know i think we'd be in better shape i agree most of these politicians can't relate to the

average person a lot of them haven't had a job yeah yeah you know hey look i'm not even hating either because like listen you say what you want but you got to be smart and you can be corrupt as all hell for sure but you got to be smart and savvy the last 40 years in that job absolutely i mean like you're doing something right yeah so i'm not happy you are i think term limits would be an amazing thing yeah but i think we need younger younger presidents too agreed man yeah you know what i mean there's one thing about obama he was there yeah his late 40s early 50s perfect yeah perfect age and i don't think his second term was good but like jesus christ he was he was he was after

george bush he was one of us yeah in that way yeah yeah. He was after George Bush, before Donald Trump and Joe Biden. Like, I mean, the bar is low. Yeah, no, it is. Like, it's normal. You know what I mean? Like, someone who gets it a little bit. We need younger presidents. Yeah.

And by the way, like, you know, in this case, he's a Democrat. There's Republicans who certainly politically disagree with most of the things he stood for but he wasn't he wasn't left off the deep end you know some of his foreign policy was awful a couple other things were good yeah you know yep which he didn't know anything about foreign policy for the most part before he went in there so like i guess a couple wins is okay ideally though you need a president who's younger yep who also gets foreign policy yeah which i guess is tough to find i guess yeah but yeah we need uh we need people who are more in touch with the everyday people it's scary though because we say that with someone who's not from that world but still how much do you have to know about the dirty game to play the dirty game to get a to get an okay game going for the country i ask myself that a lot yeah you know that's true bill clinton bad guy yeah made a few mistakes as president

i don't care about the blowjob. Right? I don't either. Right? Bad guy. Yeah. Really good president. Yeah. Yeah. I talked to staunch Republicans today who, when they're not on camera, will say, hey,

he's an awful guy. I'd never vote for him. But like, politically, he was great. Yeah. He was a centrist. Yeah. You know? No, he was great yeah it's a centrist yeah you know no he was and like that that crime bill thing he deserves blame for that but that was a bipartisan thing they both deserve blame for

you know so we need to get rid of this bipartisan you know i think there should be more than two parties agreed you know i know there are there is a third and fourth party but it's it's really not you know the green party libertarian party but we need we need a third because most of america is in the middle somewhere yeah there's a far left there's a far right i i would say most are in the middle and want that third option that could be available to them and it's really not ever available to how do you think it happens though i think this is the perfect time for it i I would agree with that. Right? But still, how does it happen? How does it happen?

Um, I think it could happen with like a, wasn't The Rock talking about, uh, Ronan? Yeah, I don't think he will. I don't think he will either. But maybe someone like that who uh

someone who doesn't have as much experience but um is somewhere in the middle not not as polarizing can bring everyone together that that's the main thing you need to bring this country together not divide them thousand percent you know and i think the last two presidents we've had have divided everybody and and that's that's a recipe for a failure agreed you know it's bad yeah it's really bad i mean people can't i talk with people all the time who are on either side of the aisle and they can't see anything from the other side and actually i'll be honest i talk with some very reasonable people too who i want to be fair about you know not even on here i'm talking like privately as well like in my dms fans and stuff who make some really good cases but i empathize with where they're coming

from because the a lot of the stances they take are very fairly out of being angry yeah you gotta take emotion out of it well that's you gotta take a moment i mean you just got the key to the kingdom right there yeah but the point is they don't take the emotion out of it and they're it's not so much that they want this to be true that they're talking about they just want to prove them wrong yeah because they're like both sides feel the same way they feel like stop telling me what to do you don't get anywhere like that you don't you don't make progress like that you don't breaking people down doesn't ever lift you up yeah and you've always been like a really reasonable guy with stuff too because like you've been we've been friends while i've been left and

right and then back around in the middle and it's like you know i didn't have that i did just respond emotionally to everything you know that's that's that's easy to do it's exactly that's the easy thing to do and i don't think it makes you dumb i think it's just that's a natural human response right and so i i kind of wonder like i know some ways i fix that but how much can you expect people not to do that because people have lives man so like the time they spend actually talking about this it's like the quick thing the quick boom boom boom boom get it out this is annoying fuck that move on yeah you know and that's how we get here yeah i just hate all the all the social media you know politics i i you know what i mean it's too much

which is why i don't have tick tock i don't have facebook i don't have i had twitter remember i had twitter for you were a great spencer strawsmore you were a great tweeter that was probably yeah r.i.p 10 years ago i had a couple you like those oh they were great you're a great tweeter i don't remember any any of the tweets but i'm sure there was something a bunch of rap lyrics right that's fantastic stuff that sounds about right yeah it's toxic though it can be it's i use it the wrong way i turned off my i turned off the algorithm on twitter about i think at the beginning of this year are you heavy in twitter i not as much no i don't i don't even talk about my twitter i don't send people to it it's I think at the beginning of this year. Are you heavy in Twitter?

Not as much as other ones. No, I don't even talk about my Twitter. I don't send people to it. It's just for me to consume news. I think it's all downside. It is. It's one social media I've not tried to build at all. A few people found me on there. Musk, he's going through with that?

No. Now he's trying to fight it. Yeah. Didn't he sign the contract contract he had a billion dollar out clause so he paid him a billion dollars for the right to leave that's nothing to him but but i don't know what's going on there if i were him i wouldn't want to buy that well they it does seem like they either lied or did not understand how many accounts on there are spam yeah and they wouldn't tell them how many right which i get there's a lot but they have to yeah they're legally required

20 10 i don't know but it's a lot it's it's probably more and he deserves more than 10 he deserves more than 10 for sure but like i'll look through you can spot some of them you can see some of them. You can see them. Yeah. I'm not even talking the most obvious ones where someone like takes Pomp's profile picture and names it Pomp574. Like, you know that's a pod. Pomp.

When's Pomp coming on here? I don't know. It's up to him, man. Yeah. When he wants to come through, he can come through. What's crazy is you don't really hear much of his story. That's what i want to talk about i know his story just because i played football with him and and i know him on that

personal level but watching him from you know from a distance no one would know he played division one football no one would know he was in the military no one would know a lot of this stuff no one would know what he did early on in his career yeah he's like he's a um afraid's the wrong word he's very humble he might be a good politician no i don't think this is a compliment to him this is a compliment no i don't think he would be no no i think he's far too objective i i think that he would like he's the kind of guy would be a loss for the private sector not to have and I don't think he would deal well

with people being irrationally emotional that's a compliment I'm not detracting from that but he's like he's a talented guy he's a humble dude he gets a lot of shit because he's like he's a talented guy he's a humble dude he gets a lot

of shit because he's willing to put his name behind stances i respect the fuck out of that yeah who cares and he's reticent to talk about him you know i that's that's an admirable thing but his story is he's had a wild adulthood. Yeah. He had a podcast, didn't he? That was top five in the world. What happened to that?

It wasn't that, but it was high. It was up there. He's still doing it every day. With Bryce Hall, was it? Oh, you're talking about the other one. But that shot up the rankings, didn't it? Yeah, but you're dealing with a 19-year-old TikToker. I don't think he's that young, but... At the time, he he was he was there he was 19 20. what's he what's he

now like 22 22 yeah yeah he's a it's not that he's a he's a young kid in la like you know he's not sticking to schedules no no no he started as what it was like his advisor i guess and then it turned into a partnership no i i think i don't know officially how it happened but they had similar people in common and pomp had that's what i was trying to figure out i was trying to connect to who did they have in common i think i think i know but i don't want to say because i i may be wrong okay but i there was a guy out there in they both knew, a glue guy, and Pomp loves the idea of financial education and literacy, which is great. That's why I listen to him every day.

What do you listen to? The Best Business Show? Yeah. The short clips of it. It's good, man. It is. They do a nice job. They do a really nice job.

I just wish he would also – he was killing it with his personal podcast. Does he have does he have another one he has his personal podcast still i think i've only heard the best he doesn't push it much it was he was a top 150 podcast and he was putting out all the episodes on youtube yeah and then he stopped doing it when he started the best business show now he only puts it on audio yeah i want to tell him like start putting it like his show is great yeah he does a really good job yeah he's good he's good yeah he's good at his craft but he you're right he doesn't i would want to talk to him i think about some life i think you have to have him in here for sure yeah i mean it's it's been discussed he's gonna do it yeah it's just like one you know he's down there yeah so oh he's in miami now yeah he's full-time in miami he's not up here a hell of a lot i would like to go down there move down there that'd be nice i love miami yeah i miss miami

bachelor party i think that's where it might be oh baby yeah ain't gotta tell me twice yeah so this is what i was thinking um ac one night in ac next morning leave from ac uh airport down to fort lauderdale spend a day yeah never been but i heard it's we could do a day there then drive down to miami for about three days i'm in i think that'd be fun we should do bungalow eight at the delano what was that bungalow eight at the delano what's that don't worry about it don't worry about it take care of it that's in miami yeah it's right next to sls too okay you can get in trouble i hope britney's not listening right now we'll take good care of him yeah she not she tuned out a long time ago well actually i i uh i need to ask you to be in my wedding. And what a better time than this.

Really? Yeah. I'm honored. Yeah. Thank you. If you'll be there, I'd love to have you by my side. Ride or die, man. Yeah. Thousand percent.

Oh, man. Cheers. Cheers. To the McDonald's. Yeah. Thank you, brother. It means a lot. Didn't think I was going to ask that on on here but it just fell into my lap worked

out that way yep when are we thinking batchy next um well we're getting married next october so probably august september oh that's perfect that's perfect yeah yeah september in miami september i think yeah i think September. I think that. Do like the weekend. Because we'll plan all for you. Just tell us what weekends you can do. Mm-hmm. But that like one of those two weekends after Labor Day.

Yeah. Prime. Yeah. Prime. Yeah. We'll do it. Yeah. That's what I'm leaning towards.

Yeah. A piece of my soul died in Miami and is buried there. And it's very happy it did it's it's it's a good resting place yeah yeah is your buddy still down there yeah con no he's he's up here now he actually just had i might have told you about this yeah he just had open heart surgery yeah most in shape yeah 12 pack yeah great it's great his brother died out of nowhere at 42 tragically early this year massive heart attack it's horrible didn't work out a ton but he wasn't fat yeah he wasn't like big yeah and so congenitics yeah exactly con went in scary it's it's so scary man you never know he went in and got all the tests his family like made him had insane he put it out online so we can check the official details but it was like

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It was like 90. And they're like, dude, thank you for coming in. Like you wait another six months, you're dead. That's insane. And now he's good. Yeah. And all worked out. Good for him.

But yeah, he did well down there. Yeah. While he was down there. My cousin's down there. She went to University of Miami. And now she's working for Royal Caribbean down there down there oh that's the life yeah so she do like the she does three weeks on she does finance for him oh she's in the office yeah yeah that's such an interesting life the way they do those cruises though it is remember moe did that does she still do that no no she's done with that i don't think so but you get a lot of time off but then you're on for a while yeah which is which is cool i think it's

like six weeks on six weeks off kind of deal it's tough with a family to do that right with kids and stuff yeah there's no way she can do that with with the kids no but that's a hell of an experience yeah going all these cool travel yeah yeah cruises are fun too that's the kind of shit like that's the kind of job you do in your 20s. Yep. Perfect for that. You know? Yep.

Get to see the world, make an Instagram out of it. Yep. Exactly. Did a whole bit. That's what the kids are doing these days, huh? Are you going anywhere anytime soon? You planning anything? For vacations?

Yeah. I'm going to Charleston in two weeks. Then I'm going to upstate New York for Cody's wedding. Labor Day weekend. Then I'm going to Charleston in two weeks. Then I'm going to upstate New York for Cody's wedding, Labor Day weekend. Then I'm going to Dominican Republic in October for mine and Brittany's birthday are both in October. Have you ever been there? Yeah. It's sick, right?

Yeah. We're staying at a new place. It was just built in 2021. In Punta Cana? Yeah. Margaritaville, it's called. It's built in 2021. We were looking at that and excellence um they both have great ratings all inclusive all that yeah we're going there uh in october i've only ever heard amazing things it's about dominican yeah i want to go to mexico

but i'm nervous about getting sick getting sick like Chris Ebrahim went there he got sick with one like stomach bug from drinking the water you know you don't drink the water it's in the food it's in the ice cubes showering with it but it's just a stomach bug you shouldn't yourself you can it ain't fun right my parents went there they got sick Chris went there he got Punta Cana I've never had a problem so that that's why it's kind of like familiar territory with me right i've been there probably five times i like it there yeah that's the shit like little shit like that we get to take for granted in most of america

it's like you don't know and you know what else you don't know in mexico there's some fucking weird ass cartel shit going on down there yeah i just i just finished breaking bad you watch that of course you love it now i'm on uh better call saul yeah all these years you told me that yeah i love i love him saul goodman so we we call for people listening we call or i started calling mike spear saul goodman better call sa. And so you would just laugh along with this joke all these years. I thought you'd seen the show. No, I didn't. And it's honestly probably my favorite show of all time.

I binged it. It's great. It was great. It's great. What a show. It's not better than The Sopranos. No, nothing is. Right.

But outside of that, it's right there. It's top five, for sure. Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men, all in the same category. And then I didn't watch it, but I's top five for sure breaking bad the wire the wire is great all in the same category and then i didn't watch it but i'll say this for other people like game of thrones obviously i've never gone into game of thrones i didn't either no but i've heard like oh yeah i watched a couple episodes i know it's incredibly done yeah you know yeah it's like a cult though they have a little bit of a cult to it game of thrones i think all these shows do yeah that's true they all do it's just like i was never into like i it's not a perfect comparison at all but like lord of the rings watched it phenomenally done great films not my speed right not my speed

either my uncle got me into it my uncle is very creative um he was a director movie maker writer my mom's brother very talented one of the most talented guys what do you work on um so he he went to i think with nyu and then he drove out to california and tried to be a producer and had a couple scripts that almost made it um and he's just he can write music movies all of it most he did our uh engagement video uh photography he was the one taking all the pictures at the engagement oh i met that guy yeah yeah heavier set guy yeah yeah he's he's the man um uh creative as all hell um he's he's he's absolutely the man dude it's a hard problem he got me in the lord of the rings star wars

he got me into all that as a young kid yeah if it's like one thing to be a fan of that shit and there's a lot of great fans he's a super fan like collectibles he's got a hundred thousand worth of collectibles star wars collectibles hundred thousand worth some of that shit's like insanely bright like how many pieces still and it's insane and most of them are still in the box and stuff like it's it's crazy do people collect this shit yeah he loves it and it wasn't my speed but i liked it because he liked it you know what i mean i watched it because i wanted to you know bond with him and it was cool but it wasn't my speed but right but i respect it and i you know that's it that's what i'm saying like But I respect it. That's it.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I respect it. The one type of music I'm not really into is country. And sometimes, as a joke, I'll make fun of it. But when I see great writing or great songwriting, first of all, I'll actually like the song a lot of times. And other times, I'm like, I respect the fuck out of that. I never listen to country until meat. I come to college, and I find this farm boy from Maryland.

I don't think he ever played country for me. He showed me, what was that song? Be a simple kind of man. He showed me that one. That was his favorite song. Simple Man. I don't even know what that's country i don't that might not be that's not country simple man i think that would

be country simple why is that song it's a very famous song but he loved that one oh leonard skinner yeah yeah i love that's country right is it uh southern rock southern rock southern rock like like i listen to the shit out of leonard skinner yeah he he would show me some like we didn't listen to any country in brick growing up none now they listen to a lot right yeah i mean yeah i guess i like some of the like the pop country the um but yeah i don't really listen to much country either i don't know i think it's like a relation thing but you could say that's the thing you could say about other kinds of music too.

Like how much can you relate? Like I love Tupac Shakur. How much can I relate to his experience? Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like just a different, he came from a different world than I did. Did you know he went to school in Baltimore?

Yes. You didn't know that. With Jada, right? School of Arts with Jada. School of Arts. Yeah. Yeah. I think he.

Did you ever visit me in Baltimore? No, you weren't there for that long. No, 2015. You were there for like nine... That was when... That was during the period where I had like all the shit with my job, where it didn't go through, so I was just working every day. Yeah.

Pay the bills. Yep. Yeah, and then you were gone, I think, in like March. Yeah. May to March. Yeah yeah i never got down there yeah and meet never even got up up here until he moved in yeah he was down there that whole time yeah he wow i forgot he lived with you in morristown that was nice with quinn doing the yoga in the corner what's quinn up do you think quinn's listening to this right now

you know probably not. You'd like to hope so. I'd like to hope so. I feel like he checks in once in a while. I saw him on a commercial the other day. The steak knife. Yeah. What's that shit called again? I don't know. Some steak knife thing. I don't know what it was. But I was like, no fucking way. Drake was in

the restaurant and he sees he sees it like out of the corner of his eye on the tv and he's like motherfucker i'm not surprised he's like i'm sorry that's my friend he should be on tv you know quinn is i have no problem saying this he was the most talented by far among us and one of the smartest yeah very very on a human level intellectual human people i've human people human beings i've ever met and has a he has the it factor on a rebel hipster hippie level i would say hippie rather than hipster that i've never seen ever before like he quinn could wake up did you ask him to come on here

i probably did at some point but where is he he's up in new york no arizona in the woods wasn't he out there at one point he was living out on a hippie commune in california was he in white plains he uh yeah he's up he's up in that area but he just like if quinn woke up tomorrow and said you know i think i'll be the next steve jobs like he could do it he could do it i wouldn't bet against him but like he has that he just doesn't has the effector like he makes good money and he's got a good life and he's he's he's a happy guy and loves people yeah like what more do you want? Nothing. You know, he doesn't... He hates attention.

Hates attention. Like, that's why he wouldn't do this. No. I hate attention, too. I agree. Which is why it was hard for me to get on here. Took two years. I don't like cameras.

I don't like pictures. I don't like videos. But I respect the hell out of what you're doing. And I love you as're doing and i love you as a brother and i love you too and i i'm excited to be here you know this is if it wasn't you i i never would have done this let's put it that way that's an honor yeah never i'm not saying because like you're also like you don't i would describe you very similarly to how i describe quinn in that in that respect yeah like it's never you're one of

those guys who people are very drawn to you and when you where you go you have a group of people around you and they'll go to hell with you but you don't ask for it right and you don't demand it yeah well you can't you can you can never you can never demand something like that. Nope. You just like to have a good time, and you work hard. You got your work ethic. You're laid back, and people gravitate towards that. And you're a bigger guy, too. That's a scientific thing. Yeah, it helps.

Big guy. It helps. Protection. Yeah. Security. Well, that's what they called me. They're like, oh, you're just with your security. Uh-huh.

I got all these O-linemen around me. Yeah with me i'm the little guy meet exactly i'm a little guy with the fucking track suit yeah all right relax you still tell people that you that you played i did dude i all my friends still think you played because you told i am backup quarterback oh no one questioned it a few women out there who never learned the truth they still think so a couple ac nights i i feel like we need to get back to ac that's another thing covid put it we used to we used to run heavy through there we were there right before we were there right before covid yeah we did a couple weekends yeah i'll be there this weekend for the first time in a while i love it there man it's it's it's the

stuff that's good there is great. Yeah. It's just the rest of it's dilapidated, which is sad. Yeah. The stuff that's good is great. Remember the video of Spear leaving in the limo? I played that on this podcast. Yeah, I know.

I saw it. I'll put it in the corner. Hilarious. He's like, come on, we're going. We're going. No. No, we're not. You can go.

We're on a heater. We're on the craft table. You can go to the strip club if you want i love he goes with his girlfriend with ty with her with his girlfriends i'm like hey that's the wholesome way to do it that is the whole i've never done that i've never done that never went that i have never gone that route you've been to one strip club you've been to them all i that's how i think well now when you go to one where they have less teeth you might think differently what central pa i never i never went to that one thank god i did

all right yeah so you you should think a little differently about that well we were only there for all of five minutes we walked in that's all it took walked in walked out she has a dick we're out we went to scranton after that oh well that's not much better it actually was it actually was decent yeah how big is scranton how big i think it's pretty big i think it's like is that a city i think it's one of the bigger cities in in pa really because it it's scranton and wilkes-barre is like um jersey city and hoboken like how they're next to each other. It's kind of like one big city. Wasn't the Office film there? Yeah, well, that's where it was based.

Yeah. 76,997. 76,000? Yeah. Oh, that's actually not big. Brick's bigger than that. How big's Brick? I'd say about 80.

Tom's River. Let's fact check. I was forgetting to fact check earlier because we were just talking. I'd say it's about 70 or 80 in Brick. Probably over 100 where I live now in Tom's River let's fact check I was forgetting to fact check earlier because we were just talking I'd say it's about 70 or 80 in Brick probably 100 over 100 where I live now

in Tom's River 75, 60, 70 how many in Tom's River? same thing Tom's River 100 over 100 Tom's River is huge

huge Scranton I thought would be isn't there like a thing in the ground in Tom's River? what? where like because of some of the chemicals you're more likely

childhood cancer what? chromium 6 I think it's called right yeah spirit spirit text me about that because he said he said uh I think he said Marlton had it too really it's like a cancer-causing agent in the water it's not good I don't drink that I don't drink tap water but I'm sure everything gives you cancer that's true you can't you can't eat anything 92 92. then that's in that might be yeah that's low it's over 100. yeah that's a while ago so tom's river is bigger than scranton i i interesting i thought it was i thought scranton was bigger huge mob presence in scranton and both really yeah tom's right oh and tom's river yeah i didn't know about it where the don lives yeah that's where the Don lives. Yeah. That's where the New Jersey Don lives.

I would say Tom's River is about 80% Italian. Yeah. Yeah, easy. Brick is pretty... Brick's pretty Italian, too. Yeah. Yeah, very. I'd say Brick's about 60 to 70.

It's crazy how that's still, like, even third, fourth generation, that shit is still real. Like, you go to Fairfield, New Jersey, and you don't have a vowel at the end of your name? Like, get the fuck out. What are you doing? I would say Fairfield and Tom's river are probably the two most italian belleville's pretty italian belleville is italian belleville's real italian yeah it is uh nutley nutley's pretty italian yeah that's where del maro was from yeah my friend uh macamino oh yeah yeah yeah italian right yeah camina camina yeah yeah yeah let's say uh they they really because then fairfield

was made of all the belleville newark people moving west to suburbia yeah what's it 20 minutes west of there yeah they stick together well we used to be in uh fairfield remember yeah you before me yeah yeah you you got us all into that business fucking you started that tony loam tony love that guy yeah good guy what a dude he's a legend he is fairfield street he is something else yeah he's one of those people who like you'd run through a wall for and has a heart of gold and you love him you still talk to him yeah uncle tony right uncle tony and with certain people, you just have to warn them before they meet him. That's true. Like, listen.

Listen. Yeah. This is how he's going to be. Uh-huh. Great guy. Yeah. And then they love him every time. He's himself, too.

He doesn't apologize for being himself. Oh, my God, is he himself. That's why we gravitate towards people like that. People love him, man. Yeah. He is beloved by every race, creed, and religion. I mean, some of the people I'd see talking to him like what's he doing now with his business is it it must have tailored yeah after covid it must have changed outside of you tony's the second best

at making a dollar legally he's great he's great yeah he's great yeah like i mean he just when covid happened that business because his for people listening his business was all like outdoor stuff and events and like moving equipment around and shit like that his business dried up in a day yeah and he almost died from kovat like i know early i remember you telling me that i remember where i was when he told me that he fucking guy didn't go to the hospital he's like fran i'm gonna die at home if i die i'm gonna die at home fuck it that's that's me i'll do the same thing he wrote it out and he was good thank god and he he you know everything stopped and then i forget i forget what he did but he yeah he had a good year you can transition you can't stop people

like that like that we're always transitioning and he gets nervous about him like i remember talking to him like early on about it after he recovered and he was like so nervous i'm like tony shut the fuck up yeah you're tony you're tony lombardi yeah you're good this is gonna happen yeah and like six months later he's like man wild year he uh he moved from that house that he was at right the first one yeah that was a nice house though yeah the second one's nice too i never been to the second one i never did like they're they're both great houses i never figured out why he moved he just said we always wanted that one the first one was great there i couldn't find a reason to move i was like they're like they're kind of the same thing yeah he just i was with him when he bought that mansion to another yeah he got a call he was with me and

my dad and he goes hold on a minute comes back he goes the house i've wanted my whole life is for sale i just bought it like it was like that yeah i'm like oh that's they make them different up here yeah you worked you worked for him right after college he really he and larry i owe them a ton because they really in a bind yeah they saved me yeah larry was like larry stood by me and and wrote it out because it was long story but yeah i couldn't i was supposed to start my job in june but then i couldn't start till january yeah but i had already bought a place and everything yeah so i was you were there and like larry helped me get on my feet and i ran up there and got a job and then i was a caddy because i've been a caddy for like a decade that's a good good job. Great job. Cash.

Under the table. Dude, I hustle. You're on your feet. You're walking around. You're meeting people. Good networking. All day. Meeting all wealthy people.

It was the best thing ever. Yeah. Loved everyone. Like the place I caddied. Which golf course was it? Mountain Ridge, which is unbelievable. Ridge. Where's that?

It's a top 100 golf course. It's up in, it's right by Tony Soprano's house in Essex County. Okay. Amazing place. The best, like the people I met there were fuckingano's house in Essex County. Okay. Amazing place. The best, like, the people I met there were fucking awesome. That's a good job. That's a good job. It was a great job.

Yeah. And it was, it was, that basically carried me through the whole summer and into the fall. And then as it was getting colder, it's like, well, you know, that's when caddying kind of ends. Try it out. And Larry was like, oh, I'll talk to my guy, Tony. I'm like okay and he like halfway did it as a joke and he's like no i think it's gonna work well yeah and then i went and met tony and i'm like tony could find a job for anybody i'm like i mean i've watched i've been a

fan of sopranos my whole life here we go yeah he's like you're gonna come work for me yeah i'm like i've met you before yeah He thinks outside the box. Dude, he is so smart. You have to think outside the box. So smart. One of the smartest businessmen I've ever met in my life. He could have been great at anything. Anything.

He was a big AC guy, wasn't he? He used to tell me about some stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big AC guy. Yeah. Yeah, he's a New Jersey guy. guy wasn't he he used to tell me about some stories yeah yeah big ac guy yeah yeah he was he's he's a new jersey guy he has a new jersey guys every single person up and down the state everyone there's a lot of stories i can't tell on camera that i should be able to tell but i know him and he'd be like you motherfucker you don't talk about that they're perfectly fine uh-huh but like god damn what a guy yeah you worked there for a few i worked there for uh maybe two years two three years you left it that long two three years

this is what i mean this guy finds a way to make i can see you yeah it was on and off like hey i'm not gonna say no to this cash you're out there getting it yeah yeah i was getting it i was i was young i was working other jobs too and when i was off i would go do that and i bought your real estate yeah okay dude that's that's that's my goal is to just put all the money i've made into businesses and real estate that way i can enjoy my life on my own terms that's what i'm saying you have figured that out so well yeah because you just figured out the escape velocity point with money just like okay if i could get to this number of assets however i get there by this time with this expense level then it's all gravy and like you pass that point early yeah and it's because you did shit like that

yeah and like texted tony like yeah i can make an extra couple hundred yeah give me another five bills in the stock market this year exactly like all of tony's money went right into assets all didn't touch any of it that's it that's so smart man and and that wasn't taught it wasn't taught in college it wasn't taught in high school i had. I had to seek that. And my dad, my parents, I don't come from a financial literate company. Yeah, you're self-taught. Or family, I should say. I read about Warren Buffett at 18, and it changed my life. That's like a famous book, right?

S&P 500, Vanguard, low cost. That was what he was pushing. And he still pushes it yeah i would i would watch movies on him i'd read books on him everything um but he's he's a he's just a very conservative investor investor and he you know s p 500 is what he pushed the thing about him is he's a he was a basic very questions guy yeah so like his whole thing was if you walk into a burger joint it looks clean you order a burger service is fast they do it with a smile on their face the burgers fucking fire and you leave them a good tip this is a good place to invest in yeah hard to argue with that hard

yeah that's true to this one he's one of the goats like you know when you walk in anywhere yeah you kind of know right away like if this is a good vibe yeah like even if you like the shit it could be a bad vibe yeah like don't invest here yeah but then other places where you're like oh my god everything's taken care of you like if i could invest in this i would yeah right that's that's how i felt when i we were looking at wedding venues um all throughout new jersey and we landed on um three that were all owned by the same family nice italian family owns the park chateau park savoy and nanina's in the park. They're all in North Jersey. And everything was,

the service was top notch. Everything was in place. We don't have to worry about anything. That's how we ended up there. And actually, where we're getting married used to be owned by Lucky Luciano. Is that the Savoy? Yeah, Savoy. In Florham Park? Florham Park.

He owned that? Yeah. Not surprised. I shouldn't be surprised. People talk about Al Capone, man. Lucky. Hey, Al Capone was a big deal, but he was the flash. Lucky Luciano was... Lucky.

And you watched Poor Walk Empire. You got me into that. Oh, yeah. You just got into that, right? Yeah, recently. Did you finish it yet? No. No.

Underrated show. I stopped for Breaking Bad. Under? Yeah, recently. Did you finish it yet? No. No. Underrated show. I stopped for Breaking Bad. Underrated show, man. Very. But Lucky's in that as a young kid. Yeah. What's he? He's probably 18 to 20 years old.

Vincent Piazza. Yeah. Did a great job playing Lucky Luciano. Yeah. He really did. When we joke about that skyline, it's not, the mob didn't build the whole thing, but like, those buildings you're looking at, they went up with Lucky Luciano and then frank costello's okay and carlo gambino yep i mean yeah bad guys but uh build my style

you gotta separate the two but it's sad to me because guys like that came here they had nothing they were treated like shit called every name in the book they weren't given a chance they had no money and they needed to make it and so they found a way to make it but like if any of those guys maybe with the exception of al capone probably with the exception of al capone any of those guys had run a public company yeah oh they'd have been a god absolutely they were so good talented so good and great yeah street street smarts you know they had it all yeah meyerlansky was another one yeah he was the he was lucky luciano's best friend yeah you know godfather 2 hyman roth yeah that's meyerlansky yeah it based off him those guys were untouchable that's why it's so cool today to me that everyone's like so into the mob now

it's yeah it's getting more mainstream now that was my shit when i when i wrote that research paper that i got assigned on the sicilian mafia then i went down the rabbit hole in high school i learned all this shit it's the most relatable enterprise or gang i should say to us you know we're both i'm sicilian you know are you Sicilian or just Italian no I don't have as far as I know I don't have any Sicilian blood my half Italian is like all a brutso okay and a little bit of Genoa have you ever been to Italy yeah I lived there oh yeah that's right yeah you did yeah 2014 was it or 2013. 2014 yeah went yeah saw my family out there yeah amazing man it's an amazing country so we might be going for our honeymoon so if you have any recommendations i'll hook you up

i think we want to go to amalfi coast all right that's some bucket list stuff but we can obviously take a train yeah you're probably going to travel around i'll hook you up a couple things in rome i got you weren't you friends at one of the restaurant owners all Weren't you trying to tell me to go to one? What's the name of that? If anyone out there is listening and you're going to Rome anytime soon, feel free to hit me up in my DMs, comments, whatever. But La Botticella in Rome is a kind of hole-in-the-wall bar. It's right outside Piazza Navonaona which is where caesar got whacked and you know it's like this very historical place which if you don't know what that is you'll recognize it

from the movies and you're in this giant plaza and then there's these little side streets which straight out of what you would expect in italy cobblestone a whole bit and you walk down the one in the middle on to me it was the right, but I don't know what direction that was. I'm forgetting. And about, I don't know, 60 meters to 100 meters down on the left is this bar. It's called La Botticella, but it's known as the Steeler's Bar. Because the guy Giovanni, who owns it, who to this day, I still talk with, great guy. He was born, he's from Abruzzozzo where my part of the family's from and

then when he was four he moved to toronto for 11 years so he has the canadian accent he talks english oh my god like i was still talking can i there's still some things i do that are little canadian pieces because so he mixed canada canada and italian accent mixed mixed no or just the english was pure canadian accent oh you didn't like that no huh yeah like he talked like that the whole time and so he moved back when he was 15 and so his mom had the little gelateria down the street he bought a bar and made into a bar and so when he was in toronto he was a steelers fan so what he would do is he was the guy in the earliest days who would stream the Steelers games in the bar.

And so it became a thing. Are there a lot of Steelers fans up there? Oh, they all come through there. All the greats, Franco Harris. I would think it would be like Buffalo. Oh, no, you're saying like why was he a fan in Toronto? I don't know. He was a Steelers fan.

And there was a lot of fans that followed the Steelers? Yeah, I think it could go either way buffalo or pittsburgh up there but all right all the steelers come through his bar and so it became this like silent below the ground thing it's called steelers bar yeah and so what would happen is the most interesting people in the world come through that bar i mean i i had drinks with the dude the the head of security there when obama was in town he was just chilling yeah and then i got so drunk i'm like yeah drinks are on obama guy and then i had a drink with tom corbett the the governor of pennsylvania at the time wow i had a drink with i'm you know what it's really sad i'm forgetting some of the people

but you gotta take me there yeah dude wild people and giovanni like we were all tight and my i was dating a girl while i was over there and she loved going to that bar and our friends loved going to that bar so it was like our little spot but giovanni is like a compass because he'll send you everywhere and be like all right you got to go here talk to that guy whatever so like you became i became connected like around the city at the time it was so cool it's all because that's cool amazing place yeah so you've got to stop there okay and then he'll say he'll tell you what to do and what not to do okay in rome yeah and in italy yeah and if you can get to sicily yeah that's that's what i want that's the main goal with your setup you should do like

a three-week honeymoon yeah you should drag it out why not at least at least two do a week in sicily yeah do three weeks and do a week in sicily yeah sicily's unbelievable i spent two three weeks there fucking unreal yeah i'm sure it's sad though because the mafia still i mean they still iron fist over that place yeah like pit the line I will never change yeah the line there is people are like I love it here but I can't wait to leave mm-hmm it's really sad mm-hmm but it's why most of them come to New York yeah yeah but it's beautiful it's like they have every climate in Sicily yeah because you have what's is it mount etna i think it's mount etna

in in sicily they got that so that's got you know it's got snow on it yeah and then they have rolling hills and then they have the most clear water beautiful beaches you've ever seen they have ancient ruins they have i mean the way the godfather filmed it like that's central sicily yeah they nailed it because that they were inily, and they got the ambiance perfectly. I felt like I was there. Yeah. So cool. That's good stuff, man.

You're going to love that. I'm excited. So you want to do a mafia, though, for sure, right? I think so. Yeah, it's amazing. I think so. That's a bucket list thing for me. Yeah, so you can work your way up that coast a little bit.

You can do day trips easy. Yeah. Rome, Naples. You can go down south to calabria there's another one what's the town is it ravella no that's on the east coast there's a town in the south with wild like architecture it's on the south coast i'll look it up southeast i think it's south centralish okay i could be wrong about that but there's some amazing places yeah a lot to do i promise my mom i'll take her there too so me and me and rose are going all mafia at some point oh that'd be sick i'd be sick she's never been to the motherland really no i

need to take her and she's all sicilian right yeah so her um she looks it she's uh she's her family is from punza which is a little island off of the west coast and and sicily map in the corner so we can see it yeah punza punza no i guarantee no one's heard it i actually have no idea no very beautiful small yeah it's very nice my cousin just just visited and um she found out that my family runs the whole whole island dude every island and village is named after my family there. Wait, this is prime. Yeah, it's good stuff. This is like, by the crow flies, two hours south of Rome. I've never heard of that. And you have to take a boat to get there, right?

It's off the coast, yeah. I would imagine. I'll tell you what. Taking the flight to Sicily, I swear to God, there was duct tape on the wings. I was like, I don't know about this. Was it a layover or straight there? It was like a slingshot. You could barely go up in the air

because it's like right there. True. So you're like, oh, we're there. Yeah. Yeah. They like drive, it's where they drive you

out to the plane. I'm getting on, I'm hitting my room. I'm hitting my room, man. I'm like, is that duct tape? He's like, shut the fuck up.

Don't ask questions. Just get on. Just get on. Oh, I'm so excited for you. That'll be fun i know i'm excited you got a big year next year you got a big year i know it's uh i'm excited we uh and we got all the wedding planning done so we uh we really just coasting around good we got yeah we got the photographer the videographer the flowers uh the band we got we got it all it's an exciting

time i'm happy for you yeah it worked out well yeah thank you man i appreciate that wall for sure but dude i'm glad you did this yeah two years in the making i know long time i know i want to get like my people who i talk with every day in my life we talk about even the people who like don't like talking a lot like you i still want to get them out of here it's a good experience i had to push myself out outside of my comfort zone for sure. You did. But like I said, there's no one else besides you that I would do it for. Well, I appreciate that. If someone from my town asked me to be on it, I would have said no.

Really? Yeah. A brick guy, you just said no. Yeah. Brick sticks together. They do, but this typically isn't my thing. But I'm enjoying it. All right.

Yeah. I'm enjoying it. I'm glad. You ran out of some whiskey there. I'm glad. Let me dab you up for a second. Do this right on the way out. Yeah.

No ice this time. No ice. Neat. Cocksuckers. Neat. Cheers. Cheers. Thanks again, brother.

Yep. Thanks for having me. And thank you for having me in your way. I'm honored. Everybody else, you know what it is. Give it a thought. Give back. Yep. Peace. everybody else you know what it is give it a thought get back to me