Julian Dorey Podcast - #220 - Aliens, Demons & Satanic Rituals | Bek Lover

Episode Date: July 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, guys? If you're on Spotify right now, please follow the show so that you don't miss any future episodes and leave a five-star review. Thank you. There's a lot of things to talk about, Julian. You know, since the last time we've knocked out a pod i mean my first pod which was more general it was about history and albania and the kosovo war and kind of how things evolved over there and and and by the way just a little update on that i mean kosovo is probably very quick to maybe be reinvaded again with everything that's been going on overseas with russia and all this stuff um so you know that's just I don't want to get into that subject too much today. But, yeah, that's always been a hot spot. The Balkans, it's where World War One started.
Starting point is 00:00:52 And with everything that's been going on with our policy and all these conflicts, once again, the Albanians are in danger of being invaded by their neighbors. I find it ironic that America is willing to try to put Ukraine into NATO while they're openly in a conflict. Yet the Republic of Kosovo, recognized by many of these countries, has not been given an invitation to NATO. Makes absolutely no sense. Most pro-American people on the face of the planet. Streets named after U.S. presidents, statues after presidents, whether you like the president or not, highways named after his son that was deceased. I mean, it doesn't get more like they don't know about our politics. They don't know about left, right, or they don't care about it. They're just trying to express their love and
Starting point is 00:01:38 loyalty to the U.S. And I don't feel like we're getting the same from America. They're about to hang us out to dry. We're one administration away from being reinvaded. Okay, a people that's willing to live and fight and do whatever they can to help America. Unfortunately, they're on the receiving end of the help. But why would you not arm a nation that is loyal to you in the heart of Europe that you stopped aggression from happening.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I mean, to me, it's just wild, but it is what it is. Since the last time I seen you, a lot's happened. A lot has happened on the podcast circuit. Joe Rogan, Valuetainment, shout out to Valuetainment. I love their work. I'm not gonna sit here and act like I don't. Shout out to Vinny. He followed love their work I'm not going to sit here and act like I don't shout out to Vinny he followed me on Instagram I really appreciate that you know he's one of the co-hosts on the PBD podcast Joe Rogan Andrew Schultz and they're all bringing on these characters
Starting point is 00:02:35 and they think people like me are crazy but let's see who's crazy today is Billy Carson more logical than someone that believes in God because Because people have been hearing that name. Now there's a big debate between the alien people, I believe in aliens, and then there's a debate between, no, I believe in God. Regardless of denomination, whether they want to admit it or not, if you're a Christian, Jew, or a Muslim, you're kind of in the same camp, generally. Your concepts of God, the characters that are involved in those stories, the prophets, many of them are shared in all three religions, right? So right now you have, I think, basically three camps that exist in the world.
Starting point is 00:03:11 You have atheists who believe, you know, there's no God, there's no nothing, this will happen by accident. Something came from nothing, which doesn't happen anywhere at any time or any place. Order came from non-order then you have the people that say no i believe in one of the abrahamic faiths or i'm a hindu or i'm a buddhist and then you have the people who are now what i call the new new age right because there's a new age movement you guys can google what that is it started kind of around the 50s and the 60s and i would equate people like billy carson to what we would call New Age prophets. And what's this New Age movement?
Starting point is 00:03:48 There's this agenda to convince human beings that they were created or altered, their DNA was altered or manipulated by superior extraterrestrials or aliens, and they feed us this very interesting story of the Anunnaki. I call it Anukaki. Okay. This very interesting story mixing truth with falsehood pulled from many of the major religions and ancient civilizations and history and tablets and pyramids and all of that. So in this episode that we're doing together, I kind of want to talk about what I believe is nothing less than demonic deception. Okay, the demonic realm, which lives parallel in this world.
Starting point is 00:04:33 They're on this earth. They've been here before us. I'm going to explain who these beings are, how human beings have been working with them for thousands of years, as far back as Babylon and all these stories of the Sumerians that Billy Carson loves to tell, how some of the most important scientists in the world were doing nothing short of demonic rituals and black magic, and that where a lot of this is coming from is literally from demonic inspiration, the demonic realm, that there are no aliens in the way they want us to believe in Hollywood, the way they want us to believe these speakers like Billy and this guy and Terrence Howard. And again, you know, more power to you guys. I think it's more about the money with those guys than it is actually about telling the
Starting point is 00:05:15 truth and all that stuff. So if you're into the whole alien discussion and you're into, you know, theology and demons, I'm going to give you my perspective on what I think has been going on and what's happening and what might happen soon. First, I want to start by stating I don't claim to be the wisest scholar in the world, and I'm only right. Anyone that acts like that is not a true scholar. We can always learn more. The wisest one is the one that says they know nothing, and I want to see what I can learn or what I can always learn more. The wisest one is the one that says they know nothing, and I want to see what I can learn or what I can read or study. Anyone that thinks they know everything, I would say that's a red flag, in my opinion. In any event, it doesn't mean you don't have experts in certain fields. And a lot of these people's lectures on these shows, like Joe Rogan,
Starting point is 00:05:59 are very well crafted and interesting, and of course they're going to get views. I mean, it's a fascinating subject. But I want to show people that believe in the Abrahamic fates where this deception is and what I think is actually happening. Okay. There's a lot there. We're going to get to everything in your list right there. I want to accomplish that today. Let's start with the deception. Because I think part of it is we're looking at it from the lens of there's been a lot of talk over the last year and a half, two years, and particularly about aliens and UFOs. It really like blew the fuck up online. You have a lot of speakers coming out and even like from the government, like ex-government people coming out and talking about it. Stephen Greer, terrence howard right
Starting point is 00:06:45 famous actors yeah and those people all types of people right and so in some ways it feels like it's almost being thrown in your face a little bit my question is why has it always been there though at all meaning like really since you want to say the 50s or 60s it has been a big conversation at least like in the background among people who were like, wait a minute, there's something beyond this earth. So why do you think it's all a hoax? What's the evidence there? So it's not a hoax. There's truth mixed with falsehood here. There is aliens in one concept, right? There's aliens of us not understanding the spiritual world, us not understanding things that are alien or foreign
Starting point is 00:07:25 to us, but not the way they're telling us. Guys, if you're still watching this video and you haven't yet hit that subscribe button, please take two seconds and go hit it right now. Thank you. Okay. And yes, you're right. Since the Roswell incident and all this stuff, right. And World War II after all that. And right. But I think we can both agree. agree i mean i'm 42 years old almost and oh my god in the last two to three years it's been more prevalent than ever right yes the space force that this that that that all this stuff is being thrown at us movies everything right which should be the first thing like why all of a sudden do they want to tell us that these things exist and declassify documents and this and that and many of you agree that there's something very wrong
Starting point is 00:08:10 with the world we live in not getting into the politics of it but there's something very wrong in the world that we live in the way things are operating at the age you know 2025 and things just a lot of things don't make sense in my opinion okay when we look at the breakdown of family structure society you can say it's a shift there hasn't been shifts like this i don't think i'm this you know it's like almost every single society is becoming exactly the same how so well turn on k-pop right koreans they're not that's not traditional korean music they're imitating american music and that's high-end pop culture but But what I'm saying is, but culture is very impactful, right?
Starting point is 00:08:46 Sure. The masses, that's what they follow. That's what they imitate. That's what they dress like. They think it's cool. Right now, the most viral person we're talking about in our nation is a girl that's talking about being on OF,
Starting point is 00:08:56 Hak-Too. Hak-Too is, spit on that thing, baby. Let's go. I don't even know the story, but I've already heard about this. I haven't seen anything of her stuff yet, but I'm already hearing about this stuff. You'll like her.'t seen anything of her stuff yet but i'm always great hearing about this stuff i'm not knocking but what i'm trying
Starting point is 00:09:07 to say is look at where we've fallen spiritually moralized morality okay this is a country that when i dream a genie came out and she was showing her button you know her belly button there was protest because they're like wait she's showing too much on television now what do you see on you're seeing things on tv today that if you would have seen when you were 10 years old it would have been classified as rated r yes or no yeah i would agree with that okay now you can sit here and say well you know they were old-fashioned or no you can say that's how far off the fucking reservation we've gone okay as far as morals ethics fucking what's right what's wrong we can all do anything right but there's got to be some limits when certain things because there's impacts people wonder why the divorce rates 50 60 percent 70 percent of children 60 percent of children being
Starting point is 00:09:59 born out of wedlock that we wonder why we have all this violence because it's all linked to the sexual revolution of the 60s okay that's you people want to go what was what was the effect of the 60s and the hippies going on like this by the way very new age during that time right the hippies the whole smoking the acid the right that was all new age inspired okay what i'm saying is because of that promiscuity okay just bang anyone you want doesn't matter this you're just having fun it's just two adults no there's consequences to everything we do and the consequences is look at what happened to the family structure look at what happened to morality this violence of a child picking up a weapon and just going into a school okay there
Starting point is 00:10:44 are other variables there, though, you would agree, right? But most violent crime is committed from children in a single-parent home. Yeah. That is a fact. Yeah, let's Google that. I'm pretty sure I've heard that.
Starting point is 00:10:53 That is a fact. So fathers and mothers ain't together. The children are being raised by the internet, by pop culture, by music. And again, call me a father. I listened to hip-hop my whole life. I'm friends with some of the biggest hip-hop artists in the world it doesn't mean i support all their work a lot of days it's just for them to get a bag you know what i mean yeah okay but what did what are they teaching their people bro and it's not just hip rock and rolls guilty of it
Starting point is 00:11:18 you can find filth in anything okay kill a bit fuck a bit what do you what are you putting into your psyche what are you putting into your mind what are you teaching yourself to think music is a very powerful weapon which is related to this conversation by the way we're going to bring that up too okay we're kind of off course here but what i'm trying to state is that morality wise when we're wondering what were the effects of the sexual revolution and it's okay and, you know, X-rated videos and all that stuff, the studies are out now. It's been happening for the last 30, 40, 50 years, okay? Where women now think, okay, if I jump on the Internet side and show everything off and do this and do that and I'm going to have a normal life, then why do they have such a high rate of taking their own lives, okay? I can probably name 30 in the last three months
Starting point is 00:12:06 that have either overdosed or unalived themselves. Okay? So there is always a consequence to every action we take. Sometimes we don't see it until further on. Right now we're starting to bear the fruit of what our grandfathers reaped in the 70s as Americans. Okay? In my humble opinion, we've gone so far off the reservation,
Starting point is 00:12:27 we have lost our fucking minds as a society. Okay? And all of this is related. And an agenda to take people away from spiritual, to take people away from the creator, to take people away from morality, to do anything to defile the creation. Well, there are also, I'd love to get your thoughts on this.
Starting point is 00:12:46 There's also another angle to it. That's pretty big. If we're going to bring in like the UFO topic itself about like the godly UFOs, right? So we have Chris Bledsoe and his family who, you know, they believe what they're seeing is like from Jesus. Orbs. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:02 But they think, you know, it's like religious and you have a huge contingent of that. I even had Ron James in here for episode one 51, who did a documentary last year where he was talking with Lou Elizondo a lot on the record, who have a lot of, a lot of people have questions about, he used to be in the government, you know, that whole thing. But Lou was telling him that there was an enormous contingent within the pentagon who also believed that this was a religious thing and therefore didn't want to touch it so how do you how do you separate the two out in that do you think like the people who are attaching religion to it are just doing it because they want to believe in this too or do you think meaning like both things at the same time or do you think that people who are strictly
Starting point is 00:13:47 looking at ufos regardless of the context are believing in in something that is going to drag them away from any form of religion even if they're injecting their own into it yeah so okay i'm trying to process that question there yeah it's complicated so first and foremost i think sometimes you know when someone truly believes in the creator and like a universal creator, right? A God, God, the God, right? The creator of the universe, humanity, aliens, demons, whatever's out there, all the planets, right? They're going to try to find that way to make it make sense so that they don't lose their faith. Okay. That's number one. So that's a's a defense mechanism number two it doesn't mean that they may necessarily understand now do i think some
Starting point is 00:14:30 of them are actually seeing orbs of light i i would say yes they probably are dr greer has videos of them summoning on them and they've seen i've had friends that have said they've seen them okay why how can we assume that that's alien, first of all? It's a fair question. Okay. What I mean is I'm not saying that that phenomenon is not happening, but you don't really know what that is. And it could be a life form.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I'm not saying it's not. Okay. I want to tell the audience, and I say this with all due respect, this is my perception, my theory. We haven't even gotten into it. You already know because we've spoke about this offline.'m not telling you to believe what i say as a matter of fact you should question everybody you should question billy parson billy carson sorry you should question him well it rhymes with jack parsons and we're going to talk about him too all right we're going to talk about jack
Starting point is 00:15:20 parsons i think we're going to have to get billy on here he's got to have the opportunity well yeah i'd love to see i'm sure he's had a lot of time to prep these amazing fables he's telling people but people could say the same thing he goes a little far people could say a little bit the same thing about religion you believe in a guy that walked on water and brought people back from the dead okay so right i i gotta be fair to your audience and respect common sense and intelligence very fair if i'm gonna believe in that phenomenon that a man named jesus in, that's his name, walked on water and brought people back from the dead, then who am I to knock
Starting point is 00:15:50 someone like Billy Carson? If I'm being fair, right? I have to be fair. That's a very interesting point. I have to be fair. I agree. What I'm going to show is the people that are leaning more towards that, I'm going to tell you what I think is actually happening.
Starting point is 00:16:04 And what is that? Okay. But we have to go back before we talk about today. Okay. So we're going to jump into the Lorian, me and you, you could be Doc Brown. I'm Marty.
Starting point is 00:16:14 We're going back to the beginning of humanity based on the biblical and Quranic explanation of how humanity was created, which is like 90% into what we got to right now. The story of creation. Okay. Okay. the story of creation okay okay the story of creation adam and eve which by the way if you pull up there mr engineer you'll see that science modern science says that all human beings have one common ancestor you cannot rule out the story of adam and eve yeah dna wise we all have one common ancestor so someone a long time ago might have slept with their sister which is why you're here today and i'm not saying that that's why or that's good or that you should do that because you know that's fine we're all slow back but uh you know my cousin
Starting point is 00:16:58 billy bob you know but but technically listen science can't rule it out okay that's number one okay but i'm gonna you know and i'm i want to be fair again like i said so i'm gonna take from the biblical and the christian and the judaic please historical yeah right context please forgive me if i make a mistake i'm not perfect i'm not god i don't claim to be a genius like some of these guys going on Joe Rogan. I am just going to take basically what I've looked at my entire life and say, here, I think I see smoke, and this might be what's causing the fire. All right. Okay?
Starting point is 00:17:37 Fire away. Now, keep in mind that all three of these religions were not started in the English language. Aramaic, right? So when you're dealing, and that's what I went viral for, right? That first video I did on the Danny Jones podcast, shout out to Danny Jones. Yeah, January 2023. That clip, billions of views. By now I'm viral for tampons.
Starting point is 00:17:58 That's a whole other story. I'm literally viral for tampons. If you go on my Instagram, I sort of got like 10, 20 million views in the last three days telling ladies that because it was public news. It was all over the media. I don't know if you saw the stories. There's arsenic. There's lead.
Starting point is 00:18:11 There's all types of metals that they're inserting into their most vulnerable areas. All right. Well, that's horrible. We'll get there. I'm viral for that. We'll get there. But whoever would have told me that. The Aramaic.
Starting point is 00:18:19 The Aramaic language. I want to keep you on it. Okay. So those religions came down in the Semitic languages. The Semitic languages are Hebrew, the language of the Israelites, Aramaic, and Arabic. And there's other Aramaic languages throughout Africa, but these are the core, right, the most common languages. And these are what the books came down in, right? The Abrahamic faiths. Now, the reason they're called the Abrahamic faiths is because Abraham, peace be upon him,
Starting point is 00:18:46 blessings be upon him, was considered in essence the father of those three faiths because he gave life to the Israelites and the Arabs. They believe that the Arab nation also traces their lineage to Abraham, okay? One son became the Israelites, one son became the Arabs. Their language is cousins. So as much as they want to act like they're not related, well, your languages are related son became the Arabs. Their language is cousins. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So as much as they want to act like they're not related, well, your languages are related. So you guys are kind of like cousins. And we have his grave. Like they know where that is too. You know? Yeah. They can trace that. And he goes back to Babylon and all that. Right?
Starting point is 00:19:17 Okay. He was never one of the idol worshipers. Okay. He was not. What do you mean idol worshipers? A pagan. The Babylonians were pagan, worshiping many gods. Abraham was the father of monotheism in that aspect, but technically Adam
Starting point is 00:19:32 was, right? Because Adam was the first human being. So starting from the story of creation, and again, I'm not trying to disrespect my Christian brothers and sisters or my Jewish brothers and sisters. Much of this overlaps in all three religions. There's some differences, right, between what a Christian believes and a Muslim believes. Christians and Muslims probably have the most in common as far as end of times prophecies, how the world would end, right? And they both believe in Christ, but in different ways. Christians believe he was divine, meaning he was a part of God and a trinity. Muslims say, no, he was not divine. He was created the same way John the Baptist was. John the Baptist, their parents did not have physical relations to create him. Can you explain that? So, Zachariah, peace be
Starting point is 00:20:16 upon him, was a prophet. He was the father of John the Baptist. He had no heirs, no children, or nothing. He prays to God and says, God, please give me an heir. The angel Gabriel appears and tells him, your prayer has been answered by your Lord. You're going to have a son. So wait, JB happened without sex? Without sex, yes. Look it up.
Starting point is 00:20:34 It's in your history. Okay, John the Baptist was created. Peace and blessings be upon him. Muslims believe in John the Baptist. He's mentioned by name in the Quran. So this is what I'm trying to say. And remember, all of my work in essence is to say, listen, you had wars between Christian factions
Starting point is 00:20:48 throughout history. You had the Huguenots fighting the Protestants, right? You guys couldn't get it along and you guys were taking each other out. So there is an agenda to make Christians and Muslims hate each other, fight each other, and go to war. This benefits if you believe in a global agenda. And I'm fighting against that.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I want to show people, listen, we may not agree on where some of these players are put into place. But in essence, we have the same common goal. To believe in a creator, to have morals, to have family structure in life. Me and you are not going to agree. Catholics and Protestants didn't agree. They got more in common than anyone. Okay?
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah. All right? And they went at it for how many years back and forth throughout France and Ireland and this. Yep. Massacring each other. That's right. And then you want to talk about Christians and Muslims? Like, guys, same thing.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Sunni, Shiite, right? Oh, yeah. Very different in some ways. There's a common denominator here. But in essence, the common denominator is none of you are following your faiths. You're taking out innocent life. You have no right to take someone's life. The only one that can judge any of us is the creator, God,
Starting point is 00:21:49 based on those religions. And if you guys can't remember any of this stuff and you can't break down all these books, which many of them have been distorted and altered, I'll give that to Bill Carson, absolutely. The Bible was compiled 70, 40, 70 years to 300 years after the alleged death and crucifixion. Multiple gospels thrown out. Jesus Christ did not come for the Romans.
Starting point is 00:22:10 So my personal, again, my personal take on that, guys, and again, that's not what this is about, but just for people if they're wondering, my personal take is they mixed it with Roman paganism. That's where the Trinity, in my opinion, that's where that comes from. Yeah. Okay? They had a godhead called Mithra.
Starting point is 00:22:29 The first followers of Jesus Christ were hunted down and massacred. This is a fact of Christian history. Yeah. Most Christian scholars will admit most of the first Christians never called Jesus God or the Son of God. That's another historical fact. You can look it up. Yeah. Can we look that up?
Starting point is 00:22:44 Okay. When you say those followers, who are you referring to? They were called, what are they called? The disciples? The Ebionites, I think their name was.
Starting point is 00:22:51 They were the first followers of Christ, man. Jesus. So you're saying after he's dead, the people who were just like... After his alleged crucifixion. It's alleged. Muslims believe Jesus
Starting point is 00:22:59 never died on the cross. Really? They believe the one who betrayed Jesus was the one hung on that cross. So Judas. believe the one who betrayed Jesus was the one hung on that cross. So Judas. We don't know if it was Judas. We know he had disciples. We know that he was betrayed. It also makes sense if you think about it. If God is a part of a trinity, Jesus Christ is one of three. God, the Father, and the Holy Ghost. Right. And then some denominations say he's God, right?
Starting point is 00:23:25 Uh-huh. Protestants, evangelical, they say he's the Lord himself in the flesh. God came down, right? You ask Catholics, is Jesus God or the Son of God? They'll say he's the Son of God. Okay, so say Hail Mary for me. Hail Mary, Mother of what? Mother of what?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Mother of God. So then is he the Son of God? Because if Mary is the Mother of God. Well, it's Hail Mary full of grace, right? Yeah, and then the next verse is hail mary mother of uh mother of god so is he the son of god or is mary the mother of god like this is my that was my issue nothing against christianity i love jesus christ with all my heart i believe he was just another prophet in the chain john the baptist was created the same way christ was there his parents had no physical relation to create him yeah did we get that alessi okay so so john the baptist physical
Starting point is 00:24:12 no physical relationship zachariah john the baptist miraculous birth relationship parents birth okay relation uh physical relationship parents not 100 percent hold on hold on one sec let's let's grab this all right yeah you know what do the quora we'll start there it's quora people take this with a grain of salt this is like a crowd source so we'll see what they say okay so it says was john the baptist can you get your thank you what was john the baptist conceived via an immaculate conception no however there is a pious tradition that he was freed from the original sin as a six-month-old babe in the womb when he leapt for joy on hearing the voice of the blessed virgin mary bearing the recently
Starting point is 00:24:55 conceived christ that would explain why christ says no man born is greater than john the baptist go back alessi see if we can get like a real go back let's see if we can get like a so go down how was john the baptist how uh how was john the baptist created was oh was john the baptist miraculously conceived see that right there you're on it yeah click that god luke fit one to five one luke chapter one verse five to seven god miraculously caused John's conception and birth even as he did Isaac and Jesus' Jesus' conception in a virgin woman without the involvement of a human male
Starting point is 00:25:31 is an exception Isaac and John's conceptions were normally produced except that Sarah and Elizabeth were beyond childbearing age like I was saying so God allowed it to happen but like I think they're saying God's word impregnated John the Baptist's mother.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Right. Period. But it says at the bottom that the conceptions were normally produced. So they were banging it out and having a kid, but God was like, yo, you're old. So like, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to make you have a kid. In the Muslim tradition, from what I understand, they did not touch at all. But even if they touched, they were way past the age of burying children.
Starting point is 00:26:03 It was impossible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay? adam had no mom and no dad that's more miraculous than christ christ had a mom at least adam was literally created and god blew the soul out of the clay yeah he had no mom and dad so from that if you want to use birth as claiming he's divine then adam is more divine adam was created directly by god He's more of a son of God in that capacity than any of us put together. He's our father. But this is, again, based on the Islamic perception. And I am not trying to offend my Christian brothers and sisters.
Starting point is 00:26:33 But I just want to show the differences in doctrine. But that's not enough reason for us to take each other out. Like, you believe this, I believe that. Guess who's going to judge us? God's going to judge us. I know if I don't accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, i'm going to hell based on christian doctrine i know that that's the risk i take but guess what no one taught me my religion i chose my faith most people follow faith like a like a like a tradition my dad was this so i'm this and then when that faith lets them down
Starting point is 00:26:59 because it doesn't make sense or they don't believe in it they just assume all religion is trash that's how most people operate brother yeah i I was born a Southern Baptist and they just give up. Or they find something that makes sense to them or they decide, you know what? I'm an atheist. I'm agnostic and cool. What do you think it is in people that makes them have to decide on that? The feeling that they have to think this, this, or that? I think there's a lot of things. And I want to be fair here. I think first is the fear of what comes after death. I think that's number one. I think, but a lot of people, I think, neglect that.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I think they think it's a joke. Most of us get prepared in this life for everything we do. You didn't just start this podcast overnight. You had to get a YouTube channel, register an email, buy cameras, learn how to cut up videos. You didn't just start making this show that has 600,000 subs on YouTube. It took you time to get here and a lot of work. It didn't just happen randomly, right? That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Out of nowhere, right? I mean, it started out of nowhere, but yeah. But we prepare to succeed in life, right? You called me, we scheduled the time, I came, right? Things are in order, right? Yeah, yeah. We do this throughout our lives. If we want to have a better chance of success, survival,
Starting point is 00:28:04 human beings have been doing this from day one. I lift weights to get stronger, to be more healthy. I contribute money into a 401k, not knowing if I'll ever see the age of retirement. I don't know if I'll ever make it to retirement, but I'm putting money away that I could use right now in my life. Hope. So that if I get to retirement,
Starting point is 00:28:23 I'll be prepared and survive in retirement. How many people pass away every day that never got to cash in their 401k? A lot. Okay. Yeah, you'll prepare for a day. You're not guaranteed. You're guaranteed to die.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And none of you ask what comes next. You're not really concerned. You're not going to... How do you know? Because everything sounds like a story and a joke. And most of you haven't done any research. Let's be real. We're talking about religion as a whole.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I'm not even saying which one's right or wrong on my opinion you know just in general every society in time from the beginning of time to now sumerians this one that one hades of the greeks right all believe in some type of afterlife every single last one of them okay every ancient civilization the mayans did this did, they all believed in some type of creator or creators and the consequence for how you conduct yourself in this life. That's right. So basically 100% of all societies had some form of afterlife story with serious consequences that come if you don't find the truth or salvation or whatever. If there's even a chance that any of them could be the truth, you're going to leave that to chance? If there's really an eternal fire waiting for us, okay, maybe there's not. How do you know? Now, in this world, when the landlord knocks on your door and says,
Starting point is 00:29:40 hey, it's May 1st, the rent's due, I didn't know. Well, guess what? They're going to evict you. Right. Because I don't know doesn't work in this life. Well, they do auto pay for my account. But you get my point. If you don't pay the rent, you can't say, I didn't know that the rent was due. The same way in this life, in the next life, if there is one, I didn't know ain't going to get you nowhere. Well, here's the thing. I agree with the premise of your answer that I just want to know your opinion. We're on a similar wavelength as to why people get so, oh, I have to think this, this or that, because it is about like what happens when we die because we all know we have that in common. But I think that, you know, at least I'll speak from my perspective here and living my life, I'm humble to what I don't know right i have some information in ancient texts right yeah but i have information in ancient texts we you already very well outlined some
Starting point is 00:30:31 issues that could be with those things and it exists across all of them so they have that in common but you know i i also agree with an earlier point you made that something didn't come from nothing it didn't start from absolutely nothing. Therefore, yes, I think there's absolutely a creator. I don't know who that creator is or exactly whatever's going on, but they're all powerful compared to me. And I am humble in the face of that. So while I don't subscribe to organized religions for a lot of different reasons, I'm, I'm humble in the idea that I am a speck on this little earth that was, you know, a one in 4 trillion chance of happening. And whoever made that happen, thank you. I'm going
Starting point is 00:31:10 to do the best I can and treat everyone the best I possibly can. So I think that in that respect, let's say just hypothetically, I got to the afterlife. I die when I'm old, hopefully. And, you know, they say, oh, sorry. Islam was correct. You didn't believe in that. So listen, I know you donated like a billion dollars to these people over here, fed the hungry, but you know, sorry, go fuck off. I don't think that the creator would do that. I think that's just my opinion. Like, I don't think that the subscription to a service, if you will, in your life, based on things that you don't really know, is going to make the difference between
Starting point is 00:31:52 are you worthy of living in paradise, if you will, or whatever comes after this in that way, versus the alternative, which wouldn't be good. When you took a test in high school, even if you studied for months and went every day after school to the teacher and studied and did all this shit and you still failed, you got an F. You still got an F, right?
Starting point is 00:32:10 Yeah. She didn't give a shit about your intention or how hard you worked or- That's right. F is a fucking F, right? Yeah. Yeah. The way I look at it. Right or wrong?
Starting point is 00:32:20 Okay. That's number one. Number two, I think that that creator if that creator did send guidance down and did send knowledge down and didn't send people and i believe this creator did okay and we spent our whole time on our cell phones going like this when i could have used it the other way to seek knowledge okay simple google searches give you comments common sense stuff okay i think there is going to be a judgment and i really do i really truly believe there's going to be a i i just what i see out there bro
Starting point is 00:32:57 it's just i know it sounds crazy to people but the reason i believe in a creator is very simple we both kind of agree in that capacity like there's a higher power yeah so we're out but again just to reiterate to the to the audience this is not about who's right or wrong that's number one okay and we're gonna get to billy carson soon it's not about who's right or wrong okay my main objective is there is absolutely no room no reason or no right for either any denomination to take each other out yeah on any of those doctrines agreed okay you got hindus attacking muslims if they have a cow in their right truck wiping them out. Modi knocked down a mosque that was there for centuries. They put a temple, whatever. Kashmir flares up.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Then you have, like I said, throughout history, Protestants and Catholics went at it. Then you have Sunni, you have Muslim, Christian, Jew, Muslim. Okay. And who's winning here? If any of you believe in God or a creator, people that don't. I don't blame atheists in the world we live in. I don't knock them.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I only knock them if they haven't truly looked or truly understood. Most people, like I said, take it as a tradition. This is what my father was, my mother was. This is what I was. It didn't make sense to me. I didn't like kneeling and taking communion or whatever it was or getting circumcised or whatever. It didn't make sense to me. So they just assumed all religion made no sense.
Starting point is 00:34:27 And again, I'm not saying that my, for me, I chose my path. I do not come from a religious family. My family actually, when I went towards Islam was kind of like against me. Like, what are you doing? You're becoming kind of like, you know, you're going to become like these people.
Starting point is 00:34:40 You know, that was the first reaction from my family. When was that? Okay, I was young, man. I started studying theology with no bullshit. Fourth grade is when it hit me in my heart a little bit. Fourth grade? Yeah, I had some friends. They were fasting Ramadan, so I decided to do it with them.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And, you know, even though Albanians are very secular, and our people hate to even be associated with religion, so I have to respect my people because I know a lot of them get angry about that because they're very secular people. And they are an example to the world of a nation that never fought itself over religion. Okay, predominantly Muslim, 70%, Catholic, Orthodox. And we have Jews also because we were the only country
Starting point is 00:35:18 in Europe to save all of our Jews during the Holocaust. A predominantly Muslim country, yet they've made a movie about anything you can think of when it comes to world war ii i mean 20 30 films a year at some times right schindler's list this one that one this one uh glorious they've made millions of movies about world war ii yet one of the most beautiful stories in the world has never been told about world war ii what what happened there like what was there was there a big character like like oscar schindler or something leading it or well the king of albania took them in and legend has it he even dealt with albert
Starting point is 00:35:50 einstein now we're having trouble proving this but legend has it that the albanian saved albert einstein's life he was documented documented being in doors visiting the king supposedly they're working on all that but you couldn't keep documents during that time because first the albanians were overrun by the fascist italians under mussolini but they weren't hunting down the jews in albania and then when the germans took control after mussolini fell they wanted lists and the albanians did not allow a single jew to die okay a predominantly muslim people yeah there's the here we are time magazine of albania king zug all right let's say let's look at this the for this is from time magazine it's called the
Starting point is 00:36:30 forgotten stories of muslims who saved jewish people during the holocaust let's go down why is this not a movie even in the dark well let's find out even in in the darkest times there are heroes though sometimes they may be the people we least expect that's the message a global non-profit group hopes to spread on Friday on Holocaust Remembrance Day when it displays a small exhibit in a New York synagogue highlighting the little-known story of Muslims who risked their lives to rescue Jewish people from persecution during World War II. Though the two religious groups are often presented in opposition,
Starting point is 00:36:58 this exhibit is a reminder that they have also shared an important history of cooperation and mutual assistance. Let's keep going. The tales include those of Khaled Abdul Wahab, who sheltered about two dozen Jews in Tunisia, and Abdul Hossein Sodari, an Iranian diplomat who is credited with helping thousands of Jews escape Nazi soldiers by issuing them passports. The group also recognizes Pilkus, a Muslim family in Albania, here we go, who harbored young Johanna Newman and her mother in their home during the German occupation and convinced others that the two were family members visiting from Germany. They put their lives on the line to save us, Newman, now 86, told Time on Friday. If it had come out that we were Jews, sorry, it got knocked down, the whole family would have been killed.
Starting point is 00:37:42 What these people did, many European nations didn't do, she added. They all stuck together and were determined to save us. Do you know why you don't have a movie about that? Because it goes against the agenda. Yeah. Okay? They want Muslims and Jews killing each other, Christians and Muslims killing each other so they can control all of us. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Why hasn't there been a movie about this? These are amazing people. They make movies about everything because it goes against the agenda what's happening right now over there that's why they want you to think that muslims are hostile and they're going to kill you and they're going to do this my friend you're talking about two billion people one out of five people in the world is a muslim right most people don't know a damn thing about islam or their philosophy they hear news clips that are misquoted okay and? And they want you to think that these people,
Starting point is 00:38:27 you should hate them and you should do this and you should do that. Yeah. And the reason I went so deep into this faith myself was, I was in the World Trade Center when I got here. I was underneath the World Trade Center. You know, I spoke about the first time on our first show. Okay, I was on the E train, okay?
Starting point is 00:38:43 One out of 10 people that died in that building was a Muslim. What do you think all their IT department guys were? They were Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Like, it's not even funny. May God rest their souls. But more Muslims have died from terrorist acts than anyone else. That's probably true. Okay?
Starting point is 00:38:57 And they're not following the tenements of Islam. To commit. And I hate using these words because I don't know what it's going to do to your fluff tube. Yeah, you're making me laugh during like a serious moment, bro. Come on now. But, you know, it is serious. But like, first of all, just so people understand, and we're so far off topic, Julian. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Keep going. I'm going to really back in. To take your own life in any of those religions, but especially Islam, under any circumstances can anyone ever take their own life ever I don't care if you're surrounded by the enemy and you know that I'm going to die but I'm going to take as many of them with me as I can some people will do that in battle
Starting point is 00:39:34 I'm going to die anyway that's against the rules you are committing the S word taking your own life really? in that scenario? are you God to know that you're going to die in that moment? They might take you hostage. They might take you as a prisoner of war. You don't know. That's the concept, the most important concept in Islam. One of the most important concepts,
Starting point is 00:39:54 which is known as the Qadr, the Qadr of Allah, meaning the wisdom that only God possesses. So you, by taking your own life, assuming that you were about about to die you don't know if you were going to maybe they would tell you to surrender or whatever now if you want to fight to the death that's different but to take your own life to blow yourself you understand like to take your own life yeah you may have been it may have been god's will that you would not have died there they would have taken you prisoner you would have been tortured to death, maybe, or maybe released because you don't know the future, right? But maybe it was his will that you get tortured so that you pay for your sins.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Fuck that. But let me finish. You pay for your sins in this life instead of on the day of judgment because any pain you suffer in this world lightens your load in that denomination of faith, okay? You don't have God's wisdom. For you to think you know what the future holds you're saying i know more than you do then what kind of faith do you have if it's god will
Starting point is 00:40:51 for you to die at that moment you'll die or you won't but you can't take your own life to take your own life is to turn the test over you you have the right to take your own life it's just like when you take a math test you have one hour teacher says you have one hour to take your own life. It's just like when you take a math test. You have one hour. Teacher says, you have one hour, Julian. You're like, you know what? Fuck you. Five minutes. You just turn it over.
Starting point is 00:41:11 You have that right with your soul. You're telling the creator, I'm done with this simulation. Because that's what this world is. This universe is a simulation created by the creator. I'll give that to... When they use these words, that's why I say they mix based on the Abrahamic faiths. You're mixing truth with falsehood Yes, we are in This dimension that God created right? You call it a simulation
Starting point is 00:41:32 Well think about is interesting. It's a test right God designed if he created the universe What's the difference between me or making a computer program? I mean he created everything right? He created the universe the laws of gravity Meaning he pre-programmed like when when i'm not saying like a computer but i'm saying like you know he created this okay existence but when i create to his parameters the game madden or something like that right i'm gonna give patrick mahomes a 99 rating and then i'm gonna give a third string quarterback a so i'm assuming that that's a reference like joe montana because I haven't watched sports in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:42:05 All right. No problem. That guy's like a Joe Montana. Yeah, he's way better than Joe Montana. But like he's got 99. A third string quarterback has like a 64.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Meaning it's pre-programmed that that guy, no matter how good a player you are with your controllers, he's curved to suck more. So in your idea... Yeah, I used to play NBA games in the old days on Sega
Starting point is 00:42:23 and all that shit. Sega Genesis. Anyway. Jordan was better than the guy how old are you i'm 42 man you sure about that i don't watch sports like that man and i'd rather play sports which i don't play a lot all right but hold on staying on topic so in that situation are you saying like the simulation that god creator would create would also have that curved meaning like you know on the goodness scale usama bin laden is maybe marked a 54 and versus you know some like saintly person is marked the 99 as much as we think we can't believe i gave osama 54 points as much as we think we have free will we do but we don't have control the way we think we do i believe our souls choose their
Starting point is 00:43:04 path you know before they're even created, whether they're going to be righteous or not, in my opinion. Our souls choose. And God inserts people. Could you control what family you were born to? No. You could have been born 200 years ago. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:17 You could be born 50 years from now. So you had no say over where you start. Maybe I was born, maybe karma exists, and I was born 200 years ago. Yeah. Some people believe in that. I'm not the one of multi-lives i believe we're eternal okay as beings i think you are who you will always be um but you don't have control over your trajectory like when you came into this world okay to who you were born right i believe that's a part of the wisdom of god where he inserts souls. There are timelines.
Starting point is 00:43:45 But I believe humanity, the only free will we have is that, listen, there's things that happen to us that we have no control over. Would you agree, yes or no? Absolutely. This is why the law of attraction is a joke, okay? It's a fucking joke.
Starting point is 00:43:58 And I'll tell you why it's not a law, first of all. I could have been the most positive human being in the world and lived in Syria before the Civil War, okay? I could have been the most positive human being in the world and lived in Syria before the civil war. Okay. I could have been the most positive human being in the world. Okay. The war erupts overnight. I lost everything.
Starting point is 00:44:12 My family got killed. I lost my bed. Did I attract that? No, I was the most positive human being you could be. Unless in that scenario where you just said the person, not that I'm agreeing with the law of attraction, but just a little devil's advocate.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Maybe the person who's so positive the next day if they lost everything they looked at it like oh my god i'm still alive i gained life in the middle of such you see what i'm saying people can change the perspective i agree with that type of that's called positive thinking yeah okay that's different than saying you can attract and you can manifest make people leave they can manifest and that is to make you godlike it's also another way to take people away from the creator the secret i'll tell you what the secret the secret is is demonic that's what the fuck it is it's demonic like the book the secret yeah that's the secret the secret is the people behind that are demonic you call it demonic 100 to convince humanity they could fucking manifest things out of. Do I believe that by being positive and being positive and staying positive and doing positive to others will bring back good? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:45:14 But there's no guarantees. Some of the greatest people in the world have had some of the most miserable lives. Yes. There's no such thing as a guarantee. So it's not a law. Just using that word is deception. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Do I believe by being. But to call it demonic. And I don't agree with the secret to be clear. no such thing right so it's not a law just using that word is deception yeah okay do i believe but to call it demonic and i don't agree with the secret to be clear but like that seems that seems like a little bit like i don't think you can just manifest and the human beings in my opinion we don't create the way the creator does i we're using a table right yeah now a human being took it and nailed it together yeah me and danny j. Or made the machine that did this, right? No, no, we made it. Okay, but did you make the wood? No, we bought it at Home Depot.
Starting point is 00:45:51 But you didn't make the wood, right? Right, a tree did. You didn't create the metal that made the nails, right? I don't think so. So what I'm saying is to create out of nothing. That's the truly matter, out of nothing. Create material. We take what he allowed us to have and shape it and change it and alter it and use the imagination of the brain that he gave you to see these things
Starting point is 00:46:14 and do these things bravo okay okay and that in that aspect if that makes sense yeah the only true creator is the creator because if we're created and even our dreams and our wildest imagination is something that he designed us to have therefore you're saying if i'm understanding this correctly to bring it back to the point like manifestation itself is saying we are creating from nothing which would mean that we are on his level which doesn't make sense people believe like they have these coincidences i think the demonic realm feeds that type of stuff too. If I believe this will happen, I think they can interfere.
Starting point is 00:46:50 We got to go because we started at the beginning and we kind of left it off. Yeah. I want to delve into the fact that we live in a universe, okay, in this multidimensional universe, that there are other living species in different dimensions that are interfering and attacking our dimension. That's what this is all about. Who are those species or beings?
Starting point is 00:47:11 In the English language, we use the word demon, but the English language, as I explained earlier, does not do justice to the Abrahamic faiths. Okay. Some of these demonic entities have been reincarnated as pagan gods and other religions previous civilizations and the newest attempt to turn these demonic entities into something is this new age movement of convincing humanity that there's these superior beings that created us or they altered our dna okay that's the newest devil's trick the greatest trick the devil ever played wasn't to convince the world he doesn't exist, it was to convince the world he's an alien.
Starting point is 00:47:48 An alien? That's one of my theories, and I'll explain where I get it from. Okay, please. First, we go back to the story of creation that we started half an hour ago. So, from the Abrahamic faith, whether you're a Jew, Christian, or a Muslim, you believe in Adam and Eve, that God created two human beings,
Starting point is 00:48:04 they used to live in the heavens and they fell from grace. They were cast down. Okay. But long before God created Adam and Eve, the first human beings, there was already another species. There was multiple species on this earth. Okay. Long before the Babylonians, Billy Carson, Jack Parsons. We're going to get to his ass too. Arson for the soul is what they're teaching people. Long before humanity ever existed on this earth, based on the biblical and Quranic traditions, the Torah, there were other species that God created before us.
Starting point is 00:48:48 One of those species is the angels. Angels are a creation created by God that have no free will. They can only do what God commands them to do. And they are described as being created from some type of light. Okay? So maybe those orbs you mentioned earlier could be. Maybe they're seeing angelic forms. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I'm not going to sit here and try to act like I know everything. But we know that the angelic realm, that dimension of creation, lives amongst God's kingdom, okay? And we also know that they are in our world and that they can even come down to test us and all this other stuff. But they cannot do wrong. And this is another place where the Judeo-Christian and the Muslim traditions kind of go this way. The second type of creation is the demonic realm.
Starting point is 00:49:38 The English language does not do this creation justice. They are known in the Arabic Hebrew traditions as the jinn. It's where the word genie comes from. You make a wish to the genie and they grant your wish. Basically you sell your soul and they give you your wish.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Sell your soul? Well, if you're praying to an entity other than the creator for help, you are now... That's selling your soul, though? You're worshiping that which has no right to be worshiped. The only thing that has a right to be worshiped is the one that created the heavens and the earth. I know, but what if the creator sent that thing to be worshiped?
Starting point is 00:50:16 Okay, well, I promise you that. And I say he's not because he's a man, okay? Because God is beyond our... You promised me that he didn't. Listen, you can think whatever you want. We're going to find out in about 50 years, me and you. Either we're going to see nothing or we're going to be like, ah, or we're going to see, you know, we're going to find out,
Starting point is 00:50:32 me and you. What's that wager called? Pascal's wager? We're all going to find out. The problem is most people are asleep and they don't want to look or investigate or even try to see if there's some truth to any of this stuff. They're going to wait and find out or not find out if there's nothing, right? Again, I'm not an atheist. They have a right to believe because to not believe is also a belief. I believe to not believe. I have to
Starting point is 00:50:52 respect their choice. Again, my universal message is regardless of what you believe, whatever denomination, whatever faith or not faith, we don't have a reason to be fighting and killing each other. This is fucking ridiculous. Like that's my universal message that's all i've spoken about over the last three to four years okay i've shown you stories where right muslims save jews and vice versa like really like this is what they want us to believe why do they only show the negative they never show the positive the truth of the matter is when you study jewish people's lives under the muslim empires no one treated them better that's a fact did we start the inquisition the muslims no spanish they were torturing anyone they even thought was a jew did we start world war one the muslim countries started world war one or european countries european world war ii that led to their european annihilation european okay so
Starting point is 00:51:47 how and they say islam was spread by the sword that's a fallacy who says that spread by and what do they mean spread by the sword by force by killing by by chop well let's look at it was it really islam or christianity that was spread by the sword because the muslims ruled spain for how many years 500 years years? 500 years they ruled Spain. Today it's the most Catholic country in the world. What Muslim army went to Indonesia? The most densely populated Muslim country in the world.
Starting point is 00:52:14 There was never an army. There was never a war. Now, you want to talk about the Persian Empire. You want to talk about when they took over Jerusalem the first time. They didn't take it by force. They negotiated. They said, you're being charged this much tax by Byzantine. We'll charge you less and you can practice your faith. When the crusade started, that was to reconquer Jerusalem.
Starting point is 00:52:34 They didn't spill blood to conquer Jerusalem the first time. There's a movie called Kingdom of Heaven with Orlando Bloom. It's pretty accurate. Go watch it. When the Christians reconquered Jerusalem, they wiped out anyone that wasn't christian this is a fact look in your history books the knights of templar oh yeah okay and this is all connected to what we're talking about but what i'm trying to say
Starting point is 00:52:54 is that and i'm not saying this to like agitate the christian audience my point is they make you hate certain people look in the fucking mirror for once i agree look in the mirror yeah before you attack as you're throwing massive stones and you don't even have a glass house anymore because all the windows have been shattered. It depends on the moment in time you're living and what conflicts are going on
Starting point is 00:53:15 for what bias you're going to have towards what religions are creating violence. And the fact is they all have done it. Are the Coptics being persecuted in Egypt? Coptic Christians? Yes. Absolutely. Are those Muslims following their religion when they do that?
Starting point is 00:53:31 No. Absolutely not. That's my argument. Yeah. Were the Serbians representing all of Orthodox Christianity when they were blessing monks in videos? Go pull it up. It's on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Blessing Serbian soldiers before they go into serban eats and massacre 8 000 civilians yeah is that what i never once in my entire life my family was massacred by the serbian military yeah many of them were blessed by orthodox monks okay i never mean blood like they were about to go to battle right bless them come back safe right i never once in my entire life you'll never find one public lecture where i have ever blamed christianity for what happened to my family yeah how come i can't get the same respect as a muslim why am i double victimized on what happened on 9-11 when i suffered that day also yeah so i never once blamed christianity because i know what jesus christ taught in that religion to have mercy to
Starting point is 00:54:33 have compassion to love your enemy to love your enemy man which is very difficult to do to have mercy and it's the same thing in islam they didn't chop the prisoners of war's heads off the first reverts to islam were prisoners of war's heads off. The first reverts to Islam were prisoners of war. They're like, this is how you treat us? You dress us like you do? You feed us with the same food? If this is how you treat your prisoners, we want to be of your faith. Not dress them in an orange jumpsuit, put a camcorder up, and then slice their throats.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And then they want to tell me that those are my people? That's my faith? No, that's not my faith they do more harm to that faith than anything else and this cross religious stuff which is why I will always call Christians and Jews my brothers and sisters period is because this infighting of people that claim to believe in God
Starting point is 00:55:19 I don't blame the atheist man I think God's going to be mad at all of us for the way we treated each other because you can't blame. Look at what they do to each other. Look at what's going on right now overseas, the country with an eye. Let's avoid strikes on your thing. What's been going on since October, you know what, okay? Who would ever want to believe in Judaism or Islam when you see the carnage, bro?
Starting point is 00:55:42 Who? That's the holy land? Then I never want to see its fucking face. And that's causing more harm to people that believe in God than those that don't. Denomination, you're not God. You can make a mistake. You could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I could be wrong. I gotta face God for that. You're gonna face God for that if God exists. I know He exists, in my opinion, in my heart. There's too much evidence to prove that He is scientifically that he exists but who am i to judge you to be the judge jury and executioner people saying good i read comments and people watching videos of airstrikes and going good to the that that's what your god teaches you that's what your god teaches you you call yourself a muslim or a jew or a
Starting point is 00:56:26 christian no that's not what god taught any of those religions but you get 10 commandments brother before jesus before muhammad thou shall not kill i agree with you back and i also agree that a lot of these wars are completely unnecessary and sure, manipulated. Where's the weapons of mass destruction, bro? Where are they in Iraq? But there are also times where – and there's always some form of manipulation with war. But there are times where it makes sense. I had Danny Hall in here recently who is one of the greatest warriors in American history.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I had him in for episodes 217 and 218. It was so long we did two episodes. And he won a Silver Star when he was in Iraq for killing a lot of insurgents. Basically, I think there was 57 in the battle. He went down in one ditch himself with no arms and hand to hand one on 18 took out 18 that's what won him the silver star i saw that yeah so a guy like that and he's such a genuine great guy and he doesn't like take pride and i killed so many people like he's not he's not like that but there is if you ask him he'll tell you on that field that day there was good and there was bad.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And he had absolutely no question about where the good was, and it was on his side. though, is something that is realistically... It can realistically be expected to be eliminated from humanity when, in fact, humanity is so fucking flawed, regardless of whether or not they fight it over religion or not. The war will be to the end of time. Yeah. Until Jesus Christ returns, both in the Muslim and Christian faith, they believe that's the only time there will be
Starting point is 00:58:19 a golden age. So every generation has to... And Muslims believe that also. Every generation has to turn away from god then in some ways so so as far as conflict's concerned yo i was never a fan of saddam hussein who put him in power that's all i want to say who put him in power who gave him the money for all those arms when he was fighting who iran rumsfeld like they're shaking his hand i mean come on bro who put all these leaders in the middle east in power after the caliphate fell in 1912 uh 1910 or whatever britain and france okay when the ottoman empire who created the problem that we have right now in the middle east you
Starting point is 00:58:55 gave one people their rights and their land you left the other people that were living there regardless who had it first they're there they're living i don't care about who's right or wrong they're both are wrong yeah Both are paying the price. And it will not end well for them either. They might win the operation. They've lost the hearts and minds of so many people that supported them before. I've advised them as friends. I have family that's of that faith.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Friends of that faith. Like, yo, this is not a good look for you guys. Oh, I have so many. Okay, this is not a good look. I have so many friends who say that. No one's knocking what happened to you, your response was it was too excessive man it's just too excessive so so that's what i'm fighting against man this hatred this this bias this like yo we're all gonna have to answer man and we're all gonna pay the price and here and all of us have blood
Starting point is 00:59:42 in our hands and may god have mercy on all of us here's here's another great line from a former episode i had eric zooliger in here for episodes 163 and 162 shout out eric and one yeah that's your boy so he has a great line where he says people are not their governments yes and when he said that i was like like, like, it was just, it's a light bulb. Same thing. Same thing happened to me. Not with him, but I had that epiphany a little early. I'm like, I've spoken before when I lost the people that I loved. I used to spend every summer with them in Kosovo. I saw them in 96. The conflict started in 97. There's 28 family members. I never saw them again. Right. Hey guys, if if you have a second please be sure to share this episode around on social media and with your friends whether it's reddit instagram facebook
Starting point is 01:00:30 twitter doesn't matter it's all a huge help it gets new eyeballs on the show and it allows us to grow and survive so thank you to all of you who have already been doing that and thank you to all of you who are going to do so now my cousins and their cousins when they're not being world cousins right cousins cousins like we're allian world, it's cousins, right? Cousins, cousins, we're all together. You lost 28 people though, right? That I knew. Not every last one of them was direct blood,
Starting point is 01:00:52 but my cousins, their cousins, you understand? Every summer I spent with them. They were my family every summer. They taught me how to speak Albanian, about the history, about the culture. And I saw what was going on there long before the conflict started. Okay? To sit here and tell you that I didn't hate anyone that was from Serbia,
Starting point is 01:01:09 I'd be lying to you. I didn't want to know you if you were Serbian. Okay? I didn't want to know you. Because, of course, I have a swollen heart. Of course. I just lost 28 people that I knew, that I loved. I was traumatized.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Okay? And I didn't want to give anyone a chance that was from there. And for many years, I didn't. My heart was sealed. If you were from there, I don't want to know you. And so my people give me slack for this stuff. I'm like, listen, no, man, no. I've met Serbians that said, I didn't agree with that conflict.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I left because they're trying to draft me to go fight there. I didn't want to be a part. How am I going to hate that guy? How am I going to hate the one family that helped save some Albanians that I know, for example? Just like during the Holocaust, there was Germans that took Jews in, right? Yeah. So that's number one. Then number two, I put my hand on my heart, as the Albanians say.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I put my hand on my heart, and I say, let me think. I didn't agree with the Iraq invasion. I don't agree with supplying weapons to certain countries that are not doing the right thing. I don't agree with these policies. So many millions of people have died for no reason. There's Iraqis that maybe have every right in the world to hate Americans based on their perspective. Absolutely. Okay?
Starting point is 01:02:19 There was no weapons of mass destruction. I didn't like Saddam regardless regardless but a million people lost their lives okay because of our actions regardless some would say now if i lost my wife my kids my brother i would say you know what as bad as saddam was i would rather him still be in power and i have my family alive you don't know because we're not in their shoes you understand yeah and the more people's lifelines we affect their trajectoriesories, they're going to what? Breed hatred and want revenge. Many of them are coming right to the border right now. Okay?
Starting point is 01:02:49 Documented. My point is I, as an American, had no say over that. I was against it. Just like people are protesting every day in New York because they don't want us helping anymore, you know, what's going on over there. And both conflicts that we're de facto involved in, right? Proxying. Proxying. Right? That's right. I have no involved in right proxy proxy proxy right that's right i have no say in that does that mean that that person should hate my guts no because i'm
Starting point is 01:03:11 actually i agree with you you're on the other side of the world yes i have this red white and blue flag that represents me but i'm not with it right now i don't support what they're doing it's the same thing with religion my religion teaches me life is sacred you can't take anyone's life that's innocent. You can only defend yourself. Never be the oppressor and don't be the oppressed. You have an equal duty to, A, not oppress others, and, B, if you're being oppressed, it's your duty to fight against it
Starting point is 01:03:36 because it's your God-given right to live free within the confines of morality and spirituality and the rules that God gave us to live. Family, honor, loyalty. Muslims were commanded by the Prophet Muhammad when they live in a different country to abide by the rules of that nation. These are facts. The problem is you want to watch a two-minute YouTube video, and then you think you're going to learn a faith that's thousands of years old in two seconds.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And then you're going to make presumptions and this and that, and half the time you're talking to people like no offense to sneeko okay oh you can you can put offense to him okay well i don't like to attack people and i'm not like i said i'm not attacking billy carson like to say he's an evil human sneeko is a different story he may truly believe all that stuff okay that's his right that is his right to believe we were altered by aliens that's your right bro i can't hate you for that that's your right to choose god gave you that gift to choose i can choose i can choose to sleep with women or i can choose to do a fucking donkey you have that choice okay doesn't mean it's right doesn't mean you probably won't go to jail for fucking you know
Starting point is 01:04:42 doing things that are against the law you have a right to choose anything you want in this life. I can pick up this cup. I can drink. That made me cough, right? There's a reaction to everything. Literally water. This is kind of like the preface. I want to just, the audience understand where I'm coming from.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I don't care if you believe what I believe. What does this have to do with Sneako? Sneako is a new Muslim. Oh, God. And this is what I said in the beginning of this talk we're having, is that first and foremost, forgive me if I made an error, number one. I could be wrong. Please cross-reference what we're about to get in, which is why I'm here.
Starting point is 01:05:24 We haven't even gotten into it. Because there's nothing more harmful than giving inaccurate information to people. It creates damage. It creates chaos. And I hope he knows that before you speak about your faith, unless you're really qualified and have the knowledge if you give misinformation you are held accountable when you face god because you may have pushed people away from the faith with your inaccuracies and you will be responsible because that one idea i've had people message me your video about that i actually started studying islam because of i became a muslim
Starting point is 01:06:00 because of that right there's the positive and that aspect of spirituality there's the negative that because of you i don't want to believe in god anymore i gave information that was inaccurate or not said the right way meaning people could understand what i was saying okay people talk about the prophet's marriage he got married to a six-year-old and i have no fucking idea what they're talking about. Zero when it comes to that subject. Yeah, what is that story? Like they try to say Muhammad married a six-year-old. This isn't what this episode was about.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah, it's okay. But go ahead. Okay. Clear it up. Clear it up. Most common attack of the Prophet's character. Okay. They have nothing else except he did this and he eliminated one tribe.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Like he wiped them out. one tribe like he wiped them out yeah he fucking wiped them out because they had an alliance there was one jewish tribe that they had an alliance because you have to you have to put everything into context okay he's living amongst the pagan arabs they believe in millions of gods okay yeah he brings the message that there's only one god this is the same message of christ, Moses, everyone that came before me. We have to worship the one God. Allah. But Allah is the same word as what?
Starting point is 01:07:12 Allah. Which is the same word as what? Elohim. Which is the royal plural. Which, by the way, Billy Carson says the Bible is mistranslated because they use the plural of God. Yes, it's called the royal plural. The royal we. With the power invested in us.
Starting point is 01:07:30 We. The plural. The royal plural. Not that it meant multiple gods, the way he's trying to conjecture. Wow. Okay? Yes, Elohim is the royal plural of Elah.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Elah is the Hebrew. Okay? Aramaic is Allah. Arabic is Allah. It's the same word. Three languages. Cockney. Okay?
Starting point is 01:07:55 Same word. That's cool. Three languages. That's what we broke the net with last time. Yeah. Google Aramaic word for God. Let's see if they change it because they're dying to change it on Wikipedia. Elohim. Put in Aramaic. Aramaic. There it is they change it because they're dying to change it on Wikipedia. Elohim.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Put in Aramaic. Aramaic. There it is. Yeah, I know. But watch this now. Watch. Go up. Type in Aramaic.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Aramaic. Aramaic word for God. A-R-A. We're going to go back. Go back. Oh, delete it. Delete it completely. No, delete it and type in Aramaic word for God.
Starting point is 01:08:21 We're going to help you. He's got it. Word for God. There you go. Third search result. Right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where does the first result come from?
Starting point is 01:08:29 That's the language of Jesus Christ, bro. Wow. Okay? And they got you. You got people on 9-11 going, F these Muslims and F their Allah. You just cursed God in the same language that Jesus Christ spoke. Okay? This is the level of ignorance. That's the word. Okay? The Jesus Christ spoke. Okay? This is the level of ignorance.
Starting point is 01:08:46 That's the word. Okay? The level of ignorance. Okay? This is not made up stuff. Ask any scholar. That's Allah. Allah.
Starting point is 01:08:54 The. Law. God. The God. Meaning only one God. The God of Abraham. That's what this is all about. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:00 There are forces that are opposed to humanity that want to convince us to worship the demonic realm. This has been going on since the inception of time. Since ancient Sumeria, Babylon, the Mayans, the Aztecs, the ancient Egyptians, who also performed black magic. These stories exist in the scriptures. I think those pyramids were actually created by this demonic race. By the demonic race? I think so. I think one of two things may have by this demonic race. By the demonic race. I think so. I think one of two things may have happened.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah, define that, please. Either A, through their black magic, they got knowledge, the same way Jack Parsons got knowledge. What is black magic, just for people out there? Black magic is when you do rituals, sacrifices, all types of stuff, to show loyalty to the demonic realm. And by doing such, they give you knowledge that you would not have and the demonic realm you're defining as you kind of said this earlier i'm gonna get into that the gym we know during the time of babylon this was very prevalent
Starting point is 01:09:56 okay the same time periods as guys drawing upon sumeria babylon in the islam type in Harut and Marut. H-A-R-U-T. Remember, I'm not Arabic. I'm a white boy. H-A-R-U-T and Marut. There you go. What's interesting is in the Albanian language, Harut means to forget. Marut means
Starting point is 01:10:19 like you're finished. Pull that up real quick. Harut and Marut are a pair of angels mentioned in the Quran, Surah 2, verse 102. They are said to tempt humans. Surah. They are said to tempt. Sorry for my pronunciation. Don't worry about it, but we're going to help you, white boy.
Starting point is 01:10:38 They are said to tempt humans by teaching them the arts of sorcery, seer, in Babylon. Quranic exegesis, top sir, explains that the pair of angels complained about human wickedness, a reference to Surah 230, whereupon they were sent down to earth to compete against humankind with regards to obedience. After they committed various crimes,
Starting point is 01:11:00 they found themselves unable to return to heaven. God offered them a choice between punishment on earth or in hell. They decided for punishment on earth, leading to their situation mentioned in the Quran. The angelic pair is exemplary for angels in Islamic tradition to be tested and potentially fail. Furthermore, they are strongly associated with introducing sorcery to the world through Islamic culture.
Starting point is 01:11:20 So they decided to take their punishment on earth, and in doing that, they rose their own demonic hell. Now, again, I don't know if this is the mainstream view from the Islamic perspective. Again, I give all praise to God if I make a mistake. Because you can cause more harm. That's the problem with someone like Sneak or this guy. To speak without not—keep that up. Why did you close that?
Starting point is 01:11:39 The next part's important. We'll get it up. Now, some would say this relates to the fallen angels of the christian perspective but no this is they asked god a question and then he gave them their own test but angels cannot commit evil they were sent by god to test humanity meaning during the time of babylon these two angels were like hey we'll teach you black magic but it's going to cost you your soul okay but it says the angelic pair is exemplary for angels in an islamic tradition to be tested and potentially fail meaning they're you're saying they're doing the testing versus like they were sent by god to
Starting point is 01:12:14 test us meaning they were sent down during the time of babylon okay solomon too to teach us, if we want to, at the cost of our own soul, how to perform black magic. One of the things black magic can do is separate man from wife. Really? Put a spell, 100%. The evil eye.
Starting point is 01:12:37 These things are real, brother. I know people... What's the evil eye? We'll get that, but this is too much for one eye. I think we need to do a miniseries. All right, it's okay. Because each subject in itself... We'll see what we fit. Because each subject in itself is one to two hours, literally, at least.
Starting point is 01:12:50 I believe you, Beck. The bottom line here is, and if you scroll down, right there is Solomon. Read that. This is in the Quran. You want me to read this? You want me to read this verse? Because we're going to talk about Solomon. It's very important to everything we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Solomon, this is in the Quran. The two angels are briefly mentioned as follows. Solomon did not disbelieve, but the sat's disbelief, teaching people sorcery, and that which was sent down to the two angels of Babylon, Harut and Marut. But they would not teach anyone until they had said, we are only a trial, so do not disbelieve. We're only a test. Then they would learn from them that by which they could cause separation between a man and a woman, oh wow, and his wife.
Starting point is 01:13:25 But they did not harm anyone with it, save by God's leave. Okay. And they would learn that which harmed them and brought them no benefit, knowing that whoever so purchases, it has no share in the hereafter. They go to hell forever. Yeah, yeah. Evil is that for which they sold their souls. So in essence, and this is very similar in the Christian and Jewish perspective.
Starting point is 01:13:47 During the time of Solomon, there was a lot of black magic going on. Yeah. Okay. And you could sell your soul and gain knowledge that you wouldn't have had. You would have some power on earth, but you lost it here after. So it would give you something. It would give you knowledge that you wouldn't have this is not as important in my opinion as what i think is actually happening the demonic realm okay this is separate these were two angels that were sent
Starting point is 01:14:14 down to test humanity yeah there's also collaborating with the demonic realm which is what black magic is right selling your soul defiling sex magic which was performed by people like alistair crowley jack parsons okay here's the reason we went to space bro okay satellites while they're up in the air is a man named jack parsons student of who alistair crowley what was alistair crowley doing black magic in his own words what did he paint a drawing of what looks like a gray alien today if you pop the picture up and we'll get it this is too much sorry it's all right just stay stay on track okay look at that picture man this is the alistair crowley show them who alistair crowley is all right let's pull up alistair crowley's wikipedia so that we can get some background here and before
Starting point is 01:14:59 i read this though real quick let me ask you a hypothetical it's a little bit loaded but is it possible that evil people who let's define this as evil hypothetically for a second doing evil things black sex magic yeah do those things and they're not good people and whatever's going to happen to them in the afterlife that's up to someone else right but they're they also at the same time sometimes could end up being someone who's like extremely smart and leave some net good creations for humanity is that possible in your book i always believe there's duality to everything yeah right like i can use this phone for good or bad right Right. I can use it to wink one out, destroy my soul, or use it to seek knowledge. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Google things, read history, try to put missing pieces of things together, or learn a trade, or watch a seminar, or- Free will. Sometimes some of these things, music came from the demonic realm. Music came from the demonic realm. The devil was one of the chief culprits of that. What? Satan himself.
Starting point is 01:16:07 And you mentioned, even Muslims use the word Satan. It comes from the word shaitan. All right, we're going to come back to Alistair Crowley. What do you mean the devil created music? He brought music on the earth. But it's a beautiful thing. It doesn't mean it's all bad either, but I've got to explain to you. So this is what I was trying to get to an hour ago, and we keep going off tangents.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I hope the audience can keep up. I hope they can too. You're like a freight train, bro. Got to explain to you. So this is what I was trying to get to an hour ago, and we keep going off tangents. I hope the audience can keep up. I hope they can too. I hope they don't. You're like a freight train, bro. Gotta let you roll. There's so many moving pieces. I know. This is a very broad topic with a lot of very important things.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Yep. To kind of gather it all back in. When God created Adam, before he even created him, the devil, Satan as he's known, the enemy of humanity okay this species lived on earth long before humanity okay before the first human being ever existed before ancient sumeria before any of this stuff billy carson god had other creations on this earth but now what's interesting to me is that from the, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:06 from the Abrahamic perspectives, like, why was it always the earth being used as like this kind of like testing ground? There's so many other planets, right? Why, for some reason, he created that species. They were on here before us, long before us, the demonic realm. Now, remember, English does not serve the description of what these beings are. It doesn't translate well into English. Because we think demon, they're only evil. That's it. Christianity tries to make up for describing
Starting point is 01:17:30 them by saying, no, they're not all evil. They're fallen angels. But that's inaccurate. And I'll tell you why I think it's inaccurate. So I explained earlier, angels are creations of light that have no free will. Even those two angels, they couldn't do what they wanted to do. God made them go and test people if they want to learn black magic. They didn't say, hey, God, I'm going down to earth and I'm going to. No, he said, OK, you want to see how human beings are? Go down there, test them. They didn't get to do it on their own initiative.
Starting point is 01:17:58 They made the choice that he allowed them to make. But there was no free will for them. They can only do what God commands them to do. The demonic Rome was created from a smokeless fire. Some of the scholars think maybe some type of electrical current. We don't really know. We know that they're made from a smokeless flame, and we know human beings, based on the Abrahamic faith, were created from all the different soils of the earth. How do we know they're made from a smokeless flame? The sand. No, no, not that. But look at the races. The demonic realm, though. look at their skin colors hold on back they literally look like
Starting point is 01:18:30 the colors of the earth back up back up you got if you're not gonna wear the headphones if i gotta stop you for something you gotta take my cues there all right how do we know that thing about i don't even remember what you said now the the demonic realm what is it came from smoke and fires how do we know that smokeless flames smokeless flames how do we know that this is the description at least in the islamic tradition of the of that species we know a lot about them from the christian christian and judaic tradition a lot of that overlaps also but a lot of this was also given to the Prophet Muhammad also. More intense descriptions of what these beings actually are.
Starting point is 01:19:15 What I believe is going on right now is nothing more than a New Age movement of the New Age to convince humanity they were created by aliens and not God. Their only goal is to lead us astray. Period. Whether you're Christian, Jew, or Muslim, we all believe the same story. God created Adam and Eve, they were in heaven, but before he even made them, the devil lived amongst the angels. Now, the Christians say he was an angel and he fell.
Starting point is 01:19:35 No, that's inaccurate. He was of the demonic realm. He lived on this earth. They're known as the jinn in the Arabic language. The jinn are a species created from a smokeless flame could be an electrical current We don't know exactly but this is based on or else has even explained and in in the Quran It is a smokeless flame. It's based on oral testimony. It's in the books and it's also in the hadith Okay, which are the recorded sayings of the Prophet but not all hadith are authentic
Starting point is 01:20:04 Because anyone that said they thought they heard the prophet speak, they recorded. It doesn't mean it's accurate. And to answer your thing about the whole marriage thing, but I don't want to go off on a tangent, they never celebrated birthdays in the Arab culture. They never had every year, let's celebrate our birthday. They weren't a writing people.
Starting point is 01:20:22 They were an oral people before Islam. That's when they started keeping calendars and records and all that this is all historical fact but getting back to the point this demonic realm known as the jinn lived on earth long before humanity and there was another species even before them but we know nothing about them we don't know anything about them so as far as the islamic perspective is concerned there was two other creations on earth long before humanity two other species okay they like human beings we're not the first ones with free will the demonic realm has free will they're not all evil because that word demon makes you think evil yeah there's good ones there's bad ones they have cities they've had wars they've had conflicts there's good demons but see the english language doesn't do them justice the jinn let's just call it the jinn okay the species of the devil they have free will there's
Starting point is 01:21:16 ones that believe in god and stay true to him and there's ones that are aligned only with satan the devil satan iblis is his name in arabic shot shaitan is how arabs would call him okay the shayateen or the the bad of that species that are aligned with the devil okay he was the best of them so in these in this civilization that's parallel to ours they're on earth in a parallel dimension to ours okay interdimensional shit bro but it's not alien it's literally spiritual so are you saying that like hypothetically here maybe i'm taking this too far do as far as but that they they walk they may walk among us they walk and fly amongst us meaning like they could literally be
Starting point is 01:22:06 a person they could literally be in that fucking globe right there and your statue if they want to possess the object right or they could be a guy sitting right there they can be in this room right now they can flow through us like the blood in our veins are the demons in the room with us oh man you gotta feel it out let me let me let me explain to you now and this there's a guy watching this right now danny hoyos danny hoyos remember how your tv exploded that day danny who's danny hoyos he knows i was teaching him about the jinn he's getting closer to believing in god his tv exploded right in front of us i swear it exploded i shit you not i shit you not i've seen people start fist fighting because it's when you go towards god
Starting point is 01:22:46 that they attack when you're lost they don't waste their time on you they got you but we're going out of order here julian this is a complicated subject well bring us an order but i'm not doing the audience justice man all right do you want do you want to go this alistair crowley stuff we're going to get there in a second but let's let's finish what we started three hours ago the story of creation yeah that species lived on earth long before us you understand they had free will there's good ones bad ones there's all different types and they're not like human beings they have different capabilities than we do they have longer lifespans than we do okay we don't know how long they live but they live much longer than us they They can fly. They can travel faster than the blink of an eye. They can transport material objects in the blink of an eye. And they follow us throughout our lives, okay? So as they were corrupt on the earth,
Starting point is 01:23:39 they were spilling each other's blood, okay, if they even have blood. They were fighting each other, wars, just like human beings, but they're a different creation than us the devil shaitan iblis was the best of them and because of his righteousness on earth god raised him to the ranks of the angels he was never an angel he lived amongst the angels but he was never an angel once god created adam he blew the soul into adam's body and then the angels asked god this story is also in the quran asked god do you create another that will shed blood on the earth and god says i know that which you do not know i have a purpose for this creation the devil was so jealous he thought he was going to have dominion over the earth but god awarded the dominion to adam and his followers he declared war on adam so when god created adam he
Starting point is 01:24:32 commanded all that were present to show respect to him like to bow not the way you would worship god but to show some type of like maybe a konichiwa the way the japanese do it or some type of bowing motion to show respect to adam and god said the reason you bow to him is because I gave him knowledge, which was more because the devil's whole thing was you made me from fire. Why should I bow to him? I'm made from fire. You made him from mud, right? And that's when this war started.
Starting point is 01:24:57 This war began. You want to see an alien, look in the mirror, people. If you believe in God, you're the aliens on this earth. We were the ones cast down. The funny thing is Bill Carson says the same thing. We're the aliens, which is crazy, right? So on that peak, okay, Bill, all right. Me and you, okay, we agree on that part. But not that we were modified by aliens. Now, this interdimensional war started in heaven. The day Adam was created was the day that the devil didn't bow why couldn't he
Starting point is 01:25:27 bow all the angels bowed why didn't the devil bow it's not because angels have free will the jinn the demonic realm they have free will he chose not to follow god's commandment so all the angels they bowed to adam he didn't bow because he was never one of the angels but if there's a good now i'm getting a little bit meta on this but if there's a creator above everything who's responsible for everything, then the creator himself has to be okay with the creation of the demonic realm itself, no? He created the good and the bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay? And remember, he has knowledge we don't.
Starting point is 01:25:56 There's a purpose for it. This is not by accident. None of this is by accident. To my understanding, he created all the souls that would ever be. And we chose whether we would be righteous or not. And we're inserted into this life based upon that decision before we even existed in this dimension. We have no recollection of what came before because if we even saw God for one second, then we know heaven's real.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Well, if God knows everything, then why? Why did he even create the universe? And why does he even need to let us live? Because you don't know everything. Because when you die, you will account for everything you did and the choices you made. So he can say, this is your record. This is every word you ever spoke, every decision you ever made. It's right here.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Just like when you go to court in this world, we believe on the day of judgment, even your hands will speak against you. Your hands are literally going to talk he made me do this he made your hands your feet everywhere you visited they're going to testify against you so like god's social credit system okay basically and what's funny is people go how's your hand going to talk well isn't it talking now son when you leave that fingerprint behind guess what that hand's testifying against you in court in this dimension in this life your head one piece of hair is testifying against you in court in this dimension, in this life. Your head, one piece of hair is testifying that you committed that act. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Your footmark. It's already in this world that happens. Is that far-fetched to believe that in the next life, your own hand will testify against you? No. Again, from the religious perspective. Now, the war started in heaven. And when the devil disobeyed God's command, he said, you think they're so good? I'm going to show you how good they are.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Just grant me until their time's over, and I'll show you just how many of them are ungrateful. God said, okay, and whoever follows you, may they be damned with you. And he said, I will attack, the devil said this i will attack them from the front and from the back and from the left and from the right meaning he's going to come at us in every single way imaginable to lead us astray to make us forget god to make us ungrateful what does he get out of that he takes as many as as many of us with him as he can, and he's doing a phenomenal job. And let me tell you something else. When he came back to Earth, remember, they were on this Earth before us, long before we even had a single person on the Earth.
Starting point is 01:28:17 It was just Adam and Eve. There was no one else in the beginning, okay? Long before human cities existed, the jinn had cities one of my theories is maybe the demonic realm built some of these monuments that we can't explain how they were built and once god sent them both back down to the earth he locked the demonic dimension into it he locked them into a different dimension on this planet that's one of my theories i've just thought of in the last couple of years that maybe the great pyramids were already built by the jinn by the demonic realm much of the ancient Egyptian gods that they were
Starting point is 01:28:50 worshiping were nothing more than demonic manifestations the reason all these hieroglyphics are the same is because once the devil the devil was able to convince one civilization to go astray why would I change my tactic my tact is to lead as many of you away from the belief in one god he used the same tactics throughout time throughout history which is why many of these pagan gods are similar they're not anunnaki anukaki bullshit these are demonic conceptions that were inspired to previous civilizations before revelation kept coming down to bring people back to the path of god and this is their objective and now they're in the final era
Starting point is 01:29:30 all right and question question question question on this real fast before we go to break the if if people have religion in this case let's use your term demonic religion passed down to them in culture meaning that's just like you said you don't choose where you're born that's what's taught to them they're taught that these things that maybe for the sake of argument aren't what god really is but they're told that's what it is from the minute they're born right they they die and so they worship them but let's say people among that population are really good people that's i don't think that's satan winning i think that's satan if under your logic don't think that's Satan winning. I think that's Satan, under your logic here, I think that's Satan showing, right? But if people are still good
Starting point is 01:30:11 people, he doesn't want that. So if people are good, maybe they're not worshiping the right person, so he likes that. But like everything else about many of them is good, then I think he's net losing. God never destroys a nation until he sends him a messenger until he sends him a prophet he didn't destroy ancient egypt until he sent moses he let them see the miracles okay and and and all of this is connected okay the black magic pharaoh was doing black magic that's a fact yeah if you watch the movie with Charlton Heston, when Moses comes there and he's like, oh, I'm going to throw my rod. And he's like, bring me my sorcerers. And this story is in the Bible.
Starting point is 01:30:52 The story is also in the Quran. He throws the rod down. And Pharaoh goes, bring me my magicians. And they throw theirs and they turn into snakes too. But then the snake that Moses' rod turned into ate the snakes of pharaoh's magicians fuck yeah and those magicians were like we believe in the god of moses and pharaoh told them oh you believe in his god before i give you the right to i'm gonna have you both crucified they said do with us what you will but we worship the god of all creation okay they were performing black magic rituals worshiping the jinn in my opinion
Starting point is 01:31:27 demonic beings throughout history they kept using the same tactic over and over again to different civilizations where music comes into the picture the first encampment of humanity came from the children of adam adam had many children each set that was born in the womb, okay, was brother and sister. They couldn't marry each other. But the next birth, this is what they believe, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Each set that was born, right, it was always one male, one female. Each set was born, they could not marry each other.
Starting point is 01:31:57 But the next birth, the next birth, they were considered. That's how, that's what they say. Got it, got it. Okay? Different time in humanity. They say we've evolved no we've de-evolved as far as certain states we've de-evolved as far as far as lifespan okay lifespan we know from noah of the ark we lived 950 years he lived for 950 years yeah he was
Starting point is 01:32:17 we know that adam was how many cubits adam the first human being i think he was 60 feet tall or 30 feet so i'm sorry oh so he was a Billy Carson giant okay we know this from the we know from the Muslim perspective wait 60 30
Starting point is 01:32:30 60 feet tall the first human beings that lived on earth before the great flood of Noah which every ancient civilization has a story of the great flood why do they all have a story of the great flood
Starting point is 01:32:39 how tall was Moses no how tall was Noah of the ark alright yeah cub was Noah of the ark? All right. Yeah. Cubits. Noah of the ark. What's a cubit?
Starting point is 01:32:50 C-U-B-I-T, man. Type C-U-B-I-T at the end. Oh, yes, for the 13th time. I love you, bro. C-U-I. No, that's not incubus. Cubits. C-U-B-I-T-S.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Yeah, there we go. All right. 30. Dimensions of Noah's. Well, that's the ark. That's not incubus. Cubits. C-U-B-I-T-S. Yeah, there we go. All right. 30. Dimensions of Noah's... Well, that's the ark. That's not Noah. I'm sorry. Adam.
Starting point is 01:33:10 See, this is what I'm saying. I'm tired. I'm getting fatigued. Adam, the first human being. How tall was Adam? Cubits. Okay. Okay?
Starting point is 01:33:19 How tall was Adam, peace be upon him? 90 feet or 30 meters. 60 cubits tall. The first human beings were that tall. So, I mean, Billy Carson, in his defense, he talks about, you know, the early human giants. What did I say? Mixing truth with falsehood. None of these stories.
Starting point is 01:33:38 But maybe in his defense, maybe he doesn't think that. None of these stories impress the Muslims. Notice he's always attacking the Bible. I dare him to attack the Quran. I dare him to debate someone like hamza yusuf i dare him to debate someone like yasser qadi he won't there's too much money involved okay i've always i've like danny jones is the guy really he was the first guy to have shot out danny and then since then obviously billy's going on so much up to and including Rogan. But he's probably the most requested guest I've ever had, and I've always shied away from doing it because I feel like he just goes way too far.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Like his partner in some of his books, Matt LaCroix, has been on my podcast four times. I think Matt goes too far on stuff too, but like Matt's simpatico with a lot of things and he loves the history and I think he has some good thoughts there and can be reeled back in on some things. Billy, I think, goes way too far, but it's interesting because he's catching a lot of strays in an episode like this. And I'd love to hear what – I'm going to be honest. I'd love to hear what he had to say to defend against some of the things you're saying. Again, he has a right to believe whatever he wants yeah his belief is no more provable than people want to try to discredit mainstream religion for period okay mistranslating stuff acting this and that does he speak aramaic fluently does he speak hebrew fluently does he speak Aramaic fluently? Does he speak Hebrew fluently? Does he speak Sumerian fluently? Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:35:06 So all I'm saying is, and again, this is not really, this episode is not about him. I'm just saying these new characters that are appearing, okay? Some of them may be involved in this agenda. Some of them may truly actually believe this stuff or some of them might just be in it for the money.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Yeah. You started this tangent with the music thing though. Can you explain that? So after Adam and Eve started to procreate, the first murder happened on earth money yeah you started this tangent with the music thing though can you explain that so after adam and eve started to procreate the first murder happened on earth when cain killed his brother abel right okay that was a tough one and took his wife because he wanted his wife yeah once he killed his brother he took his wife he went down because the firstaintops based on this tradition. Adam commanded his children, do not go down from the mountaintops and do not mix with the children of Cain.
Starting point is 01:35:55 So to my understanding, it was the women of Abel, that community that were beautiful, the men were ugly, and the men of Cain were handsome, and the women were ugly, or vice versa, okay? One side had beautiful women, one side had handsome men, and vice versa. The women were ugly on that one, and the men were... So what happened was the devil, Satan, Iblis, our enemy since day one, before we were even created, this started in heaven, not on earth. He shapeshifts, because that's what the jinn can do. The jinn can shapeshift. They can fly. They can possess objects, okay? And we know this from Solomon, and we're going to get into that. He goes amongst the children of Cain as a man, shapeshift, right? They use the term
Starting point is 01:36:40 shapeshifters. They're shapeshifters. You ain't teaching people that believe in God anything new with all these fancy terminology. The greys and their shapeshifters, my friend, demons, demons. The devil was a shapeshifter. He went to the children of Cain and started banging on things and teaching them how to blow and to win instruments. He taught them how to make music. Then what happens? The weekend has been going on since day one in this world. The weekend, getting together and dancing and having fun has been going on on earth since the beginning of humanity the children of abel that were still up in the mountains right the the good children of adam i'm sorry abel the good children that didn't you know commit any horrific acts they would hear the music
Starting point is 01:37:22 on the weekends and they came closer to the encampment of Cain. Eventually, through that music, they mixed. That's the story of how music came to humanity. Watch a movie without music. It could be the saddest movie in the world. I guarantee you, no one's crying. Not as many people are going to cry. But when that music hits you, you must die now.
Starting point is 01:37:47 You're like this. Like watch Schindler's List, bro. You're going to cry. I cried like 100 times watching Schindler's List. But Beck, it's such a beautiful thing. But it can be weaponized and used for evil. And it's being used for evil right now. Maybe it can be.
Starting point is 01:38:01 But it's also used for a lot of good. I'm not saying that it's all. Remember, that whole realm is not evil. But the danger with music is what is the intention behind it? The lyrics are the biggest clue. Fuck a man, I get some money. Fuck a man, I get some money. This is what you want to teach your daughter, your sister?
Starting point is 01:38:18 This is what we're dancing to? That's good music, right? That's a good message to teach women, right? Fuck people to get money, right? That's a good message to teach women right fuck people to get money right that that's a beautiful lesson to teach people that that's morality that's going to lead to a very nice society in the future it's a fair point is demonic shit why do they all do this in the fucking videos all of them uh katie perry dark horse has a guy with one eye which is the symbol in islam of the antichrist by the way the one-eyed liar the dajal pull it up d-a-j-j-a-l this is where this all goes
Starting point is 01:38:54 d-a-j-j-a-l dajal you know who else used that word jack parsons the guy that created rocket fuel that sent us to space he said he was contacted by this being, and that's how he figured it out. The Jal. All right, click that first one, Alessi. I'm going to read this. The Jal in Demonology. That picture's not accurate,
Starting point is 01:39:12 so X that damn picture. Don't worry about it. We're just going to read what it says. The Antichrist, the false messiah, liar, the deceiver. Antichrist in Christianity. Is an evil figure in Islamic views. The Jals are said to come at the end of times and fight the true Messiah himself.
Starting point is 01:39:28 The false Messiah, Al-Masid Al-Dijal, is the liar who leads people astray, the Messiah of misguidance who will tempt people by means of the signs that he has given, such as bringing down rain, reviving the earth to bring forth vegetation, and other quote-unquote miracles. The Jaws are said to be blind in one eye. The word Dijal became a title said to be blind in one eye the word
Starting point is 01:39:45 became a title given to him given to the lying one-eyed false messiah the jaws called is called because he will conceal his cover from the people by lying to them deceiving them and confusing them so you said katie perry was so now pull up katie perry dark horse in the video she's imitating who pharaoh pharaoh is doing what black magic i'm coming at you like a dog just do images don't play the music yeah yeah we can't we can't play the music either okay in this in this video which by the way now go to the one eye picture there you see this symbol this is who they're worshiping guys i'm going to give you the secret this one eye symbol you see when they're throwing up the rock and the fucking one eye and that is nothing more than they are
Starting point is 01:40:30 aligned with the antichrist on earth okay that's a muslim telling you that the one-eyed liar keep going to the left in this video in this video doesn't the one eye thing mean like a lot of different no it's gonna be an actual human being that only has two eyes, but only one works. The Muslims know how he's going to look. Okay? This is all going back to Horus and worshiping the pagan gods of the Egyptians. The most hated human being by God was Pharaoh. Pharaoh was someone that God gave superpowers, right?
Starting point is 01:41:00 He was America at that time. They had pyramids and fucking, okay? And he sent the miracle so he could see it with his own eyes okay and he still didn't believe in the creator and so god drowned him in the red sea and he was drowned in that red sea and they did find that mummy and they did perform autopsies and found the mummy dated to the same time ramses would have existed in that died from asphyxiation in salt water they found chariot wheels ramses salt water asphyxiation mummy god says in the books and i preserve you all
Starting point is 01:41:32 pharaoh as a sign to the next generation brother they discovered this pharaoh this mummy like within the last hundred years perfectly preserved perfectly preserved perfectly nails hair teeth Fucking everything and he wasn't even mummified the way the other mummies were if I'm not mistaken He wasn't even mummified the way they were and in what ways I'm not sure again I'm not I'm pointing you guys you guys go do the homework. He's pulling it up right now. I see it there All right Let's grab this Ramsey's the third one of the mummies that has been tested for DNA. A 2016 Wikipedia entry lists Ramses III as having been tested for mtDNA and yDNA.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Another analysis found that the genetic remains of Ramses III, along with Tutankhamun, were most closely related to sub-Saharan Africans. Do we have a picture of it? Click that video down there. Look at that video. Click that video real quick. Yeah, go ahead. Put this up.
Starting point is 01:42:25 And I'll give it some sound okay who is this all right let's stick that there welcome back my friend thank you thank you so much it's always a pleasure first let's start with some news that i just made news in scientific journals about researchers and scientists that have been able to take dna of pharaoh ramses i II and generate a model of what he looked like. Talk about why this is so interesting and why mummifying these pharaohs is leading to us being able to actually DNA test these bodies today. So first of all, the whole science around mummification is great because we can learn not only about their DNA, but we can really learn how they looked like, about their disease, their habits, what they ate.
Starting point is 01:43:08 And we have a whole idea of how this Egyptian looked like. It's very interesting because we have all these burials and all these mummies. And the riddle of these ancient people. That is perfectly preserved. Maybe can also help us to trace, you know, the race of today back then to Egypt. Wow, wow. That is perfectly preserved. That's his? Wow, wow. Now, also, you just listened to the interview with... Perfectly preserved. Okay, let's pause that.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Now, first of all, in the Quran, which came 1,400 years before they found this mummy, okay, they didn't know they were going to find it, right? How could the Prophet have known they were going to find it? They didn't. In the Quran to find it right yeah how could the prophet have known they're going to find it they didn't in the quran it says pull it up and on this day oh pharaoh we preserved you as a sign for those who don't believe quran and on this day oh pharaoh we preserved you as a sign for those who don't believe so that you may be a sign for them his fucking fingernails perfectly preserved yeah how could the prophet muhammad have known that something divine possibly again i'm not here to push my faith i tell people go
Starting point is 01:44:11 study the truth is out there okay we are under demonic attack i don't care if you're a christian a jew or muslim this is the truth that's chapter two of the yeah of the of the holy quran you want me to read this please go ahead okay in the quran Surah Al-Bukhara 49 to 1 states, And remember when we delivered you from Firans, Pharaoh, people who were affecting you with a horrible torment. This verse means that Allah saved the children of Israel from Pharaoh's people with the help of Moses. After they had been subjected to torture, the verse comes after Pharaoh had a dream in which he saw a fire emerge from Jerusalem. All right, this. Now go to the next part.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Oh, the next one. Oh, Pharaoh, we shall today preserve your lifeless body so that you may become a sign of warning for those who come after you. Indeed, most of the people are neglectful in understanding our signs. So this day we shall deliver your dead body. It won't take long to tell you Neutral's ingredients. Vodka. S soda, natural flavors. So, what should we talk about? No sugar added?
Starting point is 01:45:26 Neutral. Refreshingly simple. Out of the seed that you may be assigned to those who come after you. Now that's some pretty raw stuff right there, isn't it? That's pretty raw, yeah. Okay. 1,400 years ago, a man that can't read and write gave this verse. Shout out Muhammad.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Okay. But that same Muhammad is mentioned in John 15 and John 16, and most Christians don't perceive it. What do you mean? He's mentioned by name in their scriptures. They can deny it all they want. John 15 what? John 15 and John 16. In our humble opinion, Jesus is referring to the prophet Muhammad. In my opinion. This is not what this episode was about. It's okay. I don't care. This should be a separate episode. But you're taking it where you're taking it. I got to let you drive. But I don't want to get to the people that are putting all of us against each other.
Starting point is 01:46:08 Okay, we'll get there. That's the most important part. Let's go. Bring us there. Come on. Alright, does John 14, 16... That's cool. Just go to the verse itself. Go to John 16. Well, 16 what? John 16. Just John 16, the Bible. Let's go through this together. John 16, the Bible. Okay okay here we go all
Starting point is 01:46:26 right john i guess we're gonna do uh discussion uh it's okay now i'll give you a real quick synopsis here and then the christians i'm sure they're gonna go crazy with this and leave comments and go nuts and curse me out and whatever love it first and foremost and john 15 and john 16 jesus christ is telling his disciples that he's in trouble. Now imagine God's in trouble. He's got to tell his guys, I'm in trouble. If he's divine, he knows he's going to die no matter where he hides. So why is he hiding? Before he's crucified, okay?
Starting point is 01:46:54 If he's divine, he knows no matter what. First of all, I thought he came to die for me. So if he came to die for me, why is he hiding? Well, that's because he's a man. Well, pick which one is he? But forget that. That's a whole other argument. All this I have told you so that you will not fall away. So's telling his disciples like listen i'm in trouble i'm out of here okay all of this i have told you so you
Starting point is 01:47:13 will not fall away they will put you out of the synagogue in fact the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to god you my followers they're gonna hunt you down they're gonna fucking destroy you down. They're going to fucking destroy you. This is a fact. That's exactly what happened after his alleged crucifixion. They started rounding up the Christians, and I say Christian,
Starting point is 01:47:32 by people that followed Christ. They were massacring them, okay? They were throwing them in the Colosseum. The guy that wrote half the Bible was a Christian bounty hunter, okay? That's like if you're Jewish, the Germans are wiping out your people, and then all of a sudden it's like if you're jewish the germans are wiping out your people and then all of a sudden it's like hey we're going to give you this book that's who gave
Starting point is 01:47:49 you half your new testament the guy that was hunting down christians and massacring them really and you think it was the soul soul soul also known as paul right now he was massacring christians he was a christian bounty hunter massacring the? He was a Christian bounty hunter. Massacring the first followers of Christ. God's going to reward that, right? Come on. They will put you out of the synagogue. They will do such things because they have not known the Father. They don't know God or me, Christ is telling them.
Starting point is 01:48:17 I have told you this so that when their time comes, you'll remember that I warned you about them. I did not tell you this from the beginning because I was with you. But now I'm going to him who sent me, and none of you asked me, where are you going? Rather, you are filled with grief because I have said these things, but verily I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away because unless I go away, the advocate will not come to you. The advocate, Who's Christ talking about? We're reading this in what language, Julian Dory?
Starting point is 01:48:48 Well, right now, English. What language did Jesus Christ speak? Not English. He spoke Aramaic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I'm not mistaken, in Aramaic, the word that he uses for advocate is the word manahama, which translates to the word Ahmed, if I'm not mistaken, in the Arabic language. All right, let us know in the comments.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Go ahead. But verily I tell you this for your good that I'm going away. Unless I go away, the advocate will not come. I will send him to you. When he comes, he will prove the world. Hang on, bro. That the advocate, what? He will prove the world about sin and righteousness and judgment about sin because people do not believe in me because I'm going to the Father where you can see me no longer.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Verse number 12, very important. I have much more to say to you. Jesus is telling his workers, like, I'm out, mission fail, mission abort. I'm going back to the Father. He's not telling you he's going to die there. I'm going back to the Father. Muslims believe that God rose Jesus.
Starting point is 01:49:40 He never got hung on the cross. The one who betrayed Christ, that's the one that hung on that cross. But there is evidence he was on the cross. Oh one who betrayed Christ, that's the one that hung on that cross. But there is evidence he was on the cross. Oh, there was someone on that cross, but it was not Christ. The one who betrayed Christ. Think about this. If Jesus is God or a part of the Trinity, how can he forsake himself? Forsake means to abandon. That's someone without faith, my brother. And if you came to die for me, then why are you forsaking anything it's the one who was made to look like christ that was hung on that cross that was his punishment for
Starting point is 01:50:10 betraying jesus christ god made him look just like jesus and he's the one that got hung on that don't we have a record though of living after that though i have much more to verse 12 very important julian dory this is the connection that i believe and many scholars believe is to the Prophet Muhammad. I have much more to say to you, more than you can bear. I have much more I want to tell you, but you can't handle it. You can't bear it. When he, he's still talking about this advocate. When he, the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you to all truth.
Starting point is 01:50:42 He will not speak on his own. He will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. Three important things here. He will not speak on his own. Every Muslim knows that the Holy Quran was transcribed through the angel Gabriel directly to the prophet Muhammad.
Starting point is 01:50:59 That the angel would literally grab the prophet, and the first verse of the Quran was, Recite, I can't. Read, I can't. Because the prophet and the first verse of the Quran was recite I can't read I can't because the prophet was illiterate read in the name of your lord who created you from a cloud of blood in the womb of your mother read because he taught humanity that which it did not know many verses in the Quran towards the end also start with kul. Kul means to say. So the angel would grab the prophet and say, say this.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Kul huwa allahu anhu. Say God is one, the eternal, the absolute. He does not beget nor is he begot. He doesn't make kids and he's not born. He's eternal. He will not speak on his own, but whatsoever he shall hear from the Father, he will make it known to you. And you will know that he's from us
Starting point is 01:51:50 because he will confirm me. Here we are 2,000 years after the alleged death of Jesus Christ. What other human being came to, now the church tries to say, he's talking about the Holy Ghost. No, he's not talking about the Holy Ghost. Any Christian that's being honest will tell you the Holy Ghost is something that inspires you inwardly. It's not something that speaks out.
Starting point is 01:52:12 I can't see the Holy Ghost talking. The Holy Ghost can inspire me and I say something, but I'm not going to see the Holy Ghost preaching out in the open. I'll see it through another person. You get my point? He's clearly describing someone that will come after him like a person that will be transcribed to communicate what's coming next which will tell of end times and which will do what confirm him today two billion people that are not christian believe jesus christ is the messiah because of a man named muhammad because of a man who told them that he was sent by God,
Starting point is 01:52:47 he was born to a virgin, and his mother has an entire chapter in the Quran called Mary. They do believe he's the Messiah? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean divine. What? That means the anointed, the chosen one. Right. Jesus Christ was chosen to bring the Israelites back onto the path of God. They kept going astray.
Starting point is 01:53:04 They kept dabbling in fucking black magic in Babylon. Okay? They did this shit. Not all of them, but they did. They were cut off from source. When they didn't accept Christ, they were reconquered again. But Babylon was even like run by the Persians and shit at some point. Yeah, that's when they got freed.
Starting point is 01:53:21 What? When the Persians reconquered Babylon, then they told the Israelites to go back, and they built the second temple, and then Christ came. What was that, like 500 BC, something like that? Yes. Then Christ came. The second temple. The third one goes up, my friend.
Starting point is 01:53:34 It's bye-bye. When you see that temple, wait for the one-eyed liar. Wait for a human being who will appear. I promise you. Remember this if you're watching this show. Then you're going to know who told the truth or not you will see a human being who have powers that no human being has he will speak things and have power when the world is in complete and utter destruction famine starvation global warming whatever you want to call it wars this guy's gonna appear
Starting point is 01:54:02 promising you food and all this stuff and peace and all that but remember he'll have two eyes one eye will look like when you pop a grape he'll have one eye that is damaged he will be the one-eyed liar the false messiah because the only true messiah is jesus christ when jesus came back the first time he he came for the Israelites. They didn't listen. They fell from grace. They lost their connection for revelation. This is what the Muslims believe. So then from the house of Isaac, God went to the house of Ishmael for the final revelation. They don't believe Islam is a new religion. They believe because we allowed the corruption. I believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ. We don't have his gospel.
Starting point is 01:54:46 We have Mark and Luke and Matthew and Paul who wrote half the Bible. Paul, someone that was executing Christians. Okay? This is the theory the Muslims have. Whoever betrayed Jesus Christ was the one that was hung on that cross. How can you forsake yourself?
Starting point is 01:55:01 If you're a Christian, ask yourself, how can you forsake yourself if you're God? And a God doesn't pray. A God gets prayed to. So who's Christ praying to in Matthew 26? Pull it up. But this is not what we were going to talk about today, Julian. Dorian?
Starting point is 01:55:14 So this was the counter of what the advocate is from the Christian perspective. Wait, say that again. Christians better start learning Aramaic, man. I got your mic on. Yeah, so this is what the Christians refer to as the advocate. They try to pass it on as the Holy Spirit. Let them read it. So it says here in John 16, 7, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit, which, Beck, you were saying, as the advocate.
Starting point is 01:55:34 The Greek word translated as advocate is parakletos, which can also mean help, advisor, counselor, mediator, comforter. Depends what translation of the Bible you use. Yeah. All right. In a human court system, an advocate speaks for the client's rights. Similar to a lawyer in John 16, Jesus is referring to the Holy Spirit as a mediator who will allow him to continue to be with his followers, even though he is now physically present with them. I'm asking Christians, you want to unlock the truth? Dig deep into these verses.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Stop going to people that give you biased information. Learn Aramaic. I'm not Arabic, but when I pray, I pray in arabic why to preserve preserve the book that's why every muslim on earth prays in arabic these books were taken from ancient aramaic hebrew well converted into ancient greek not spoken anymore ancient greek to ancient latin not spoken anymore from latin into English, lost in translation. It is a huge. And if you need a reminder, and I'm going to finish with this. If you need a reminder, there's 10 commandments.
Starting point is 01:56:31 So why didn't God tell us about this first? Well, he's trying to trick us. All of a sudden we have this, we have this, we have that. No, he said, I'm one. Only worship me. Don't worship anyone else. Don't pray to the creation. Pray the creator.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Period. So, but this is also a huge issue because when you look at even like the english just one language the english translations of the bible there's fucking 15 for every verse you know who's king james to make his own version he left out seven or eight books from the douay. Okay? Who gave him the authority? So, again, this is not what this episode was supposed to be about. I don't care, Beck.
Starting point is 01:57:09 It's fine. You're making it about this. It's good. Just don't keep saying that. But I want to get back to the aliens, man. All right. I just want to talk about the aliens.
Starting point is 01:57:16 All right, let's get you your piss break, and when we come back, we'll be on the aliens. How about that? Is that good? Respect to everybody. All right, cool.
Starting point is 01:57:23 All right, we're back. So, you want to talk about you've been putting at this the whole time we started with some alien stuff we got that into the demonic realm i think it's really good we covered that i i think that's all it's all interrelated so it's you're doing fine but you look at some of the alien stuff through the lens of things you've hinted at today including like the guys like alistair crowley am i right about that absolutely can you explain that please yes so regardless of what faith you are we all believe in the demonic realm we believe the devil is real that's whether you're jew christian or muslim we have the same bad guy okay i explained earlier that that species lived on earth long before
Starting point is 01:58:01 humanity i explained that they have powers that we don't have. Okay. They have certain abilities that we do not have. And we learn most about this from the prophet Solomon, who's also in all three faiths. This is why the Masons, the illuminated ones, they're always doing rituals with the two pillars, which represent the Solomon's temple. Solomon was a prophet that God gave the power over this dimension and the unseen dimension. We know in science that there's more than one dimension. This is what they say now, all of them say it. There's more than one dimension. My question is, do you not think there might be something living in that dimension? This is where the dangers of technology like cern we don't fully understand i think they
Starting point is 01:58:46 may be opening wormholes to parallel dimensions where that demonic realm may be able to come into our realm with their powers the power to shapeshift the power to travel faster than the blink of an eye and bring you back objects we know this this from Solomon. They helped Solomon construct his temple. He used to command the demonic realm, okay, to jump into the deepest parts of the ocean and bring out pearls the size of, you know, tennis balls. He decorated his temple with these jewels. We know that when he summoned the queen of Sheba, which is present-day Ethiopia, she had a massive throne. This is in the Quran. You can also pull it up.
Starting point is 01:59:27 And he told her, he told the jinn, the demonic realm, to bring back this massive throne before she made it to his kingdom physically. So she was already en route. He made the demons bring her throne in the blink of an eye. So when she appeared there, she's like, this is my throne. Like, how is my throne here and then she realized that solomon was a prophet of god with the powers granted to him by god okay we know that they can shape shift from the story of cain we know that they can inspire thought and attack us what you would call telepathy okay to project thoughts into our minds that little cartoon with the angel and the devil on your shoulder that's real they follow us everywhere
Starting point is 02:00:11 we go they know how we think they know what we talk they know what we speak they know if you're upset at your wife you should you should get revenge on her it's that thought that you think is yours it's not jeffrey dahmer or whoever it was, son of Sam, the dog was telling him to do it. By the way, one of their most favorite creatures to take shape of is a dog. Why? This is based on the Islamic tradition, snakes and dogs. My dog though. They like to shape shift into those more than anything else.
Starting point is 02:00:41 I don't know why. It's very common for their species to do that. Were the dog whispers in your ear? No, but to take the form of a dog. Yeah. Okay? I truly believe pets, animals, can see that dimension.
Starting point is 02:00:54 That's why sometimes a dog is screaming and you don't know why. They are seeing what you can't see. Or a squirrel. No, I mean like if there's nothing around and just for no reason barking and barking and barking in your house they probably just saw one of these demons in your home they can see things we can't see their eyes may not be shielded the way ours are because if we could see these creatures then we know that the test that we're in to
Starting point is 02:01:22 you know the test of humanity living this life finding god being righteous if we knew that the devils were 100 real then we know that heaven's real if we could see god once we wouldn't act to our true nature we would say well god is real i don't want to go to hell and common sense would override what we would actually do that's why we don't see god if we saw him then we would all be like he's real hell's real i don't see God. If we saw him, then we would all be like, he's real, hell's real. I don't want to go to hell forever. I'm not going to kill people. I'm going to behave. That's why we can't see him.
Starting point is 02:01:49 It's like seeing the answers to the test while you're taking the test. But this dimension, they live parallel to us. One of my theories is, just like they helped Solomon build his temple, is that either A, they had built these temples
Starting point is 02:02:02 and these pyramids themselves, or B, the communities that worship these beings yeah yeah gave them the knowledge how to do these things or even help them construct these things so you're saying remember they were sacrificing people left and right the aztecs pulling hearts out that was to these demonic beings so these demonic beings are what alistairley drew? Summoned. Aleister Crowley, ask yourself, guys, we don't have hours and hours to go over this stuff. I've spoke about this on many podcasts. I did it with Nino Rodriguez, former heavyweight boxing champion of the world.
Starting point is 02:02:35 I did this on Danny Jones, and I'm doing it here with you. Ask yourself, if you don't know who this person is, you have no idea the world we live in and the influence people like this have had. Okay. You want me to read his bio? Aleister Crowley is the key to understanding that most of the technology we have today, this alien agenda all goes back to him. Okay. So it says Aleister Crowley was an English occultist, philosopher, ceremonial magician, poet, painter, novelist, and mountaineer. He founded the religion of Thelema, identifying himself as the prophet entrusted with guiding humanity in the aeon of Horus in the early 20th century. A prolific writer, he published widely over the course of his life. Born to a wealthy
Starting point is 02:03:14 family in Royal Lamington Spa, Warwickshire, Crowley rejected his parents' fundamentalist Christian Plymouth brethren faiths, pursuing an interest in Western esotericism. He was educated at Trinity College at the University of Cambridge, where he focused his attentions on mountaineering and poetry, resulting in several publications. Some biographers allege that he was recruited into a British intelligence agency, further suggesting that he remained a spy throughout his life. In 1898, he used the esoteric Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, where he was trained in ceremonial magic by Samuel Liddell McGregor Mathers and Alan Bennett. He went mountaineering in Mexico with Oscar Ekenstein
Starting point is 02:03:48 before studying Hindu and Buddhist practices in India. In 1904, he married Rose Edith Kelly and the honeymoon to Cairo, Egypt, where Crowley wrote down, quote, the book of the law, a sacred text that serves as the basis for Thelema, which he said had been dictated by a supernatural entity named Aywas. Announcing the state of the Aeon of Horus, the book declared that its followers do what thou wilt and seek to align themselves with their true will through the practice of ceremonial magic. And that's the opposite of what the word Muslim means.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Muslim means one who submits their will to God. So if you do it as thou wilt, you're following your desires, you're following the demonic realm. Okay, I'm just going to finish this part. So after the unsuccessful 1905 Kanchen Junga expedition and a visit to India and China, Crowley returned to Britain where he attracted attention as a prolific author of poetry, novels, and occult literature. In 1907, he and George Cecil Jones co-founded an esoteric order, the AA, through which they propagated Thelema. After spending time in Algeria in 1912, he was initiated into another esoteric order, the German-based
Starting point is 02:04:49 Ordo Templi Orientis, rising to become the leader of its British brands, which he reformed in accordance with his Thelemite beliefs. Through OTO, Thelemite groups were established in Britain, Australia, and North America. Crowley spent the First World War in the United States, where he took up painting and campaigned the German for the German war effort against Britain his biographers later revealed that he had infiltrated the pro-German movement to assist the British intelligence services in 1920 he established the Abbey of Thelema a religious commune in Cefalu Sicily where he lived with various followers his libertine lifestyle led to denunciations in the British press and the the Italian government evicted him in 1923. He divided the following two decades between France, Germany, and England, and continued to promote Thelema until his death. Crowley gained widespread notoriety during his lifetime, being a drug user, bisexual, and an individualist social critic. remained a high-luent influential figure over Western esotericism and the counterculture of the 1960s
Starting point is 02:05:45 and continues to be considered a prophet of Thelma. He is the subject of various biographies and academic studies. There's a lot on the bone there. And who's his best friends? L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology, a religion that tries to convince us we were created by aliens. It's not a religion, but yeah. Okay, but basically. Yeah, they call themselves that and jack parsons and walt disney the magic kingdom what is he practicing the entire time
Starting point is 02:06:12 through his life what does it say magic right well that's allister yeah and this is their teacher jack parsons was doing all kinds of who was jack Jack Parsons? Pull it up. All right, let's pull up Jack Parsons. Okay, Jack Parsons was an American rocket engineer, chemist, and thalamite occultist associated with the California Institute of Technology. Caltech Parsons was one of the principal founders of both the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the Aerojet Engineering Corporation. He invented the first rocket engines to use a constable composite rocket propellant and pioneered the advancement of both liquid fuel and solid fuel rockets. Why satellites went up in the atmosphere, my friend.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Yeah, so following some brief involvements with Marxism, in 1939, Parsons converted to Thelema, the new religious movement founded by the English occultist Alistair Crowley. Together with his first wife, they joined the Agape Lounge, the California branch of the Ordo Templi Orientis in 1941. At Crowley's bidding, Parsons replaced Wilfred Talbot Smith as its leader in 1942 and ran the lodge from his mansion on Orange Grove Boulevard. Parsons was expelled from JPL and Air Jet in 1944, owing to the lodge's infamous reputation and his hazardous workplace conduct. Mark Bunker, in episode 203, when he he was in here he's spent 30 years advocating
Starting point is 02:07:27 against scientology he talked about this guy doing doing black magic sex rituals shit yeah yeah okay sex orgies menstrual they do during the menstrual cycle of a woman okay when you scroll down you'll see they were accused of doing stuff with young people under age boys a lot of crazy shit go down watch watch slow slow you gotta slow down there buddy please just take it easy i know he's trying to go down a little bit more a little bit more go down a little bit more okay go down down down down down down go go scroll yeah now you want to scroll okay Stop, stop. Go down a little more. More, more, more.
Starting point is 02:08:09 All government agencies funding stuff, doing stuff. Okay. Why is the government giving these people money? Doing sick shit. Well, that's the interesting thing. Go down. Go down more. You're going to see.
Starting point is 02:08:18 Okay. All the rockets, the jet fuel. Keep going. People can do this homework on themselves. Okay. Parsons remained dedicated to thelma he almost gave all his salary blah blah blah scroll down crowley and grammar wanted to smith remove head of a bob by mid 1843 all the u.s became aware that nazi germany had developed
Starting point is 02:08:36 the v2 rocket the military okay l ron hubbard and babylon see it all goes back to the occult okay can you explain the occult to people The occult are secret societies that claim to have more knowledge than the rest of us. Alchemy and all that stuff is related to the occult. Tapping into the demonic dimension, doing black magic and rituals to get knowledge, to get visions. And you think they can actually get that like you were saying earlier? He says it himself. The guy that is the reason rocket ships have gone up. There would be no Elon without Jack jack parsons and elrond and that was why i brought up that question and he didn't
Starting point is 02:09:11 just come out of nowhere either that was why i brought up that question earlier of like could someone evil leave something good that they got through quote-unquote evil means that then humanity uses for good yes we could possibly use it for good because we have free will to either not use it. I don't think we should have made A-bombs. That was definitely demonically inspired because some of the people that worked with them were on the Manhattan Project.
Starting point is 02:09:34 They're all connected. Yet their figurehead was Aleister Crowley. You study Crowley and who he's connected to, then you understand the world that we live in right now and how we got the tech that we have. And it's not alien. it's demonically inspired technology jack parsons himself jack parsons himself said he had a vision where a being called belio dajal which was the word i showed you what for antichrist and islam gave him a vision saying you are important for my work so
Starting point is 02:10:03 i'm going to help you unlock what you've been seeking. And that's how he got inspired to create this fuel that took us to space. It's interesting, though, that all these guys... Why would they make this all up? It's interesting that all these guys have ties to intelligence, though, too. And each other.
Starting point is 02:10:18 Yes, each other. Yeah, but through intelligence. Walt Disney, the magic kingdom. I wasn't speaking for Walt Disney, but these other guys. L. Ron, founder of Scientology, all Hollywood we know. Jack Parsons, space, weaponry, all of that came from what? A guy that was doing black magic that he studied in Egypt. Pharaoh was the enemy of God.
Starting point is 02:10:39 Master magician. Those pyramids, in my opinion, were either created by the demonic realm or through them. This is all connected. This is how long this shit's been going on for. The same as the Knights of Templar who went underneath Solomon's temple during the first crusade and found the manuscripts of how to perform witchcraft, black magic that dates back to Babylon and Sumeria for our boy, Billy Carson, who is nothing more than a new version of these guys. And my humble opinion.
Starting point is 02:11:07 That's a very big claim, though. Go ahead. As far as I know, Billy Carson isn't doing black magic on the fucking internet. Listen to me. He has a different historical opinion. We were not altered or created by aliens. We were created by the creator.
Starting point is 02:11:21 Period. Okay. Anyone that's teaching you differently is um i will never back back to a point i was making a minute ago though that we didn't address that alistair crowley guy evil sure am i sick spy mi6 spy clearly so did he even believe the shit he was doing look at what jack parsons i mean you're probably not i know and then he had ties yeah but look look at even him what it says right there what does it say who did he help with rocketry it says it right there i think he scrolled where the same government that's fighting right now okay Okay. All right. Got it. Right there. Look. Or by boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 02:12:07 Or posters work for. Right. There you go. Go read it, guys. I dare you to study their lives. You tell me. You think it's a coincidence? You think it's a coincidence that all these people that are performing rituals and all this shit are connected to the most influential people in our society?
Starting point is 02:12:24 From the Beatles to you name it gay rights activists you all they're all connected all friends at this time where all of a sudden technology just goes like this right there in that i think that i i disagree i i think that i think that's i think that's pushing way too far on creating a series of for they have eyes but they cannot see yeah yeah but but but you're you're picking out you're picking out individual examples of that and you're not looking at the whole population this cluster of every population though hold on a minute this this is where i'll push back on this stuff every population has evil every single one and they also have evil that overlaps with intelligence i don't mean like intelligence like spy agencies.
Starting point is 02:13:05 I mean people that are actually smart, but you can mean it both ways. Or opening Pandora's box. Sure. And so I think when we – I think it gets real dangerous at any time, especially when there's horrible shit going on around the world where governments are doing terrible things. You got no argument from me there. I think it's really dangerous when we start to then point to, oh, well, they're all this type of person or that type of person. It's not. I mean you could look at – people like to talk about the Freemasons and whatever, right?
Starting point is 02:13:32 Shaquille O'Neal is a Freemason, right? 33 degrees, son. What happens on the 33rd level, most don't know. I don't know. Pull up a picture of them. Of the Freemasons? Pull up – just type in Masons. Freemasons? Pull up. Just type in Masons. Freemasons.
Starting point is 02:13:46 I want to show you something very interesting, bro. Pull it up. Point being, they think of Masons as like this monolithic, you know. I'm not saying they're all bad, by the way. Bunch of old white dudes or whatever. And I'm pointing out there's different types of them. But do you notice how when they do their rituals, it's always on a checkered board? It's the crossing of but do you notice how when they do their rituals it's always on a checkered board it's the crossing of dimensions julian dory the dimension of light and darkness solomon's temple it all goes back to that and what they have on their apron is one eye the eye of
Starting point is 02:14:17 horus yeah that's what everyone does they all have the one eye of the dajal the false messiah they find out on the 33rd level who they're actually working for is what I think. That's my humble opinion. You think some of them leave when they find out? I think like Katy Perry's song, Dark Horse, once you come this way, there's no going back. Remember when I showed you the example of the two angels that taught humanity how to do sorcery once you learned you already sold your souls too late i think a lot
Starting point is 02:14:52 of times these celebrities when they realize what's really going on and they want out i think that's why britney spears had a breakdown that time when she was shaving her head i think she wanted out but there's no out okay There's no out once you're in. So be careful what you wish for. You tell me why all these people that impacted science, space, this, that, entertainment, why are they all connected to this guy? You don't find that a little weird? Well, then I don't know that. You haven't proven that.
Starting point is 02:15:19 That they're all connected to him. It's in their biographies. Look at who their best friends were. Look at who associated with them. Yeah, there's definitely. Who financed them. Look at who gave themies. Look at who their best friends were. Look at who associated with them. Yeah, there's definitely. Who financed them. Look at who gave them money. Look at the.
Starting point is 02:15:29 He's on the Beatles cover, for God's sake. Aleister Crowley? Yes. He's on the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band. Can we type that in? Album cover. Beatles, Sgt. Pepper's. All occult shit.
Starting point is 02:15:39 All rituals. When you're not wearing the headphones and we talk over each other it's too much that's why when i keep going like this that's like i'm not saying shut the fuck up but i'm saying shut the fuck up for a minute just so that we can get into get into search all right so that was sergeant pepper's lonely hearts club band the beatles alistair crowley zooms in you see there he is right there now who's all the other people on the cover there? Famous people, celebrities, whatever. Right.
Starting point is 02:16:08 So if there's a lot of different people. Yeah, but why him? You're going to pick a Satan guy? Satan worshiper? Is that how he's viewed by everybody? People that believe in God. People that believe in God. Who did that cover?
Starting point is 02:16:22 Who designed that? I don't know. Did you show the picture of the gray that he painted with his own hands? Let me show you aliens, guys. Yeah, I want to talk about this. Yeah, pull this up. Pull up Aleister Crowley. Aleister Crowley, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:33 Okay? When he was in Egypt, the house of Pharaoh, the enemy of God, the most hated human being to ever live, ever, was Pharaoh. Because he saw God's miracles and he still denied God that's why God drowned him and preserved him perfectly as a sign for me and you to know that God's real this is the drawing Alistair Crowley makes of a being he doesn't call it an alien a being that came to inspire him Lam what does that look like to you it looks like the steven spielberg aliens the green alien yeah that's right yeah okay worshiping these beings working with them performing rituals black magic
Starting point is 02:17:13 sex magic all types of things because to get loyalty from that dimension you must defile your own soul and there's levels to that shit sometimes they want you know human stuff you know when you get rid of a human being to show your loyalty like what people do with animals to show their loyalty to a god same thing with human beings brother nothing's changed in this world you think the aztecs were doing that stuff for fun oh how are they so perfectly aligned their pyramids because the jinn the demonic realm has the ability to fly back and forth between the heavens and the earth that's one of their powers by the way is it and this is from the quran this is from the quranic explanation they have
Starting point is 02:17:55 the ability they have knowledge they were on earth long before us their sciences are way more advanced their capabilities so when they share this knowledge with certain civilizations, why is that so far-fetched? It makes a lot more sense than the whole aliens. They altered our DNA and they left us. No, after the great flood, as a mercy, God shortened our lifespans. Because less time to fuck up. It's a lot easier to be good for 60 years
Starting point is 02:18:25 because we get real bored. I mean, I'm 40 years old, but I've done it all. I'm kind of bored. I've done it all. There's not, oh, we're going to go to the club. Okay, I'm tired. Like, I'm bored. You know, I'm bored.
Starting point is 02:18:34 Imagine living for 900 years. After a while, you're like, okay, I've been good for like 800. Let me fucking... So I truly believe, okay, and I know it sounds funny, that after the great flood which every ancient civilization even billy says it after the great flood the great deluge of noah of the ark peace and blessings be upon him because he was real you're looking like i'm crazy i'm not looking at you like you're crazy i believe god's short in humanity's lifespan as a mercy so we have less time to be evil and fuck up. The shorter the amount of time, the less longer you have to stay good.
Starting point is 02:19:12 Noah of the ark lived for 950 years before God destroyed the earth. Yeah. What did they call him again? And his sons were like Thoth and those. Yeah. What the fuck was he called? Damn it. Yeah, what the fuck was he called? Damn it. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 02:19:27 A lot of these different sexual beliefs. This is where this alien agenda started. It started with him. With Alex. Through the New Age movement of the hippies and the LSD and the drugs and all the people in entertainment. They've been preconditioning humanity to believe we were created by aliens for the last almost 100 years. Where did he say he got that again that was from us that was from a ritual if i'm not mistaken that was during a ritual that he
Starting point is 02:19:50 did in the pyramid of giza in the pyramid of giza not mistaken i know he did many rituals there but if i'm not you can do a ritual there they let you in well i don't know if he asked back then and it was like the 30s or whatever it was okay so this is right all right according to some may just have been an avatar to make more famous spiritual beings such as satan or nithandler up while others have compared them to the grays right we got to and i love these people that talk like they know so much about the space age like the pleutons and they have all these like i feel like i'm listening to an episode of star trek okay they got you good man the devils and the demons they got you guys they got you guys good man and they got spokespeople like billy making them look real and harrens terrence howard and this is where it all comes all right hold on
Starting point is 02:20:39 a minute though let's think of it from a higher level forget the people and what they're saying on a specific level from a very broad level when you look at our universe the known universe that we have which you know is fucking infinite don't you think there is a mathematical almost certainty that there has to be intelligent life out there there is other intelligent life so those would be aliens in parallel dimensions in In parallel dimensions. And that's an acceptable answer. But also like within the universe itself, on some other planet somewhere,
Starting point is 02:21:10 in some other galaxy. Then why does God keep using this planet, man? Something weird. Well, it's only that we know about this planet. We don't know about what God's doing on other planets. What's your opinion of the flat Earth? I think it's fucking ridiculous. I think so too.
Starting point is 02:21:22 But I do think that there's a firmament between our universe and the creator. English. So not on the earth, but between God and the universe, there's a firmament that protects the heavens. Because even in the Muslim tradition, they talk about how some of the jinn would try to fly up to the heavens and steal knowledge. They would try to eavesdrop.
Starting point is 02:21:43 And God says says i strike them down with balls of flame with fire but yeah that whole flat earth thing i mean some of them make some really good arguments and make you think but you know it's not a debate that i get into yeah it's crazy i i don't think they make good arguments at all i think they're all fucking morons i mean it's so provably false. It's so, like, it just, when someone's like, oh, have you looked into it? I'm like, oh, God, I can't even talk with you. Because when you look at different things, whether it be, even Carl Sagan had, and this is way before social media,
Starting point is 02:22:21 had a fucking one-minute video just debunking this in one way only, just saying, all right, look at the shadow of the obelisk at the same time on Earth. One's going to be longer in one place at the same time of day as the other one's going to be shorter in another place. Right there. There you got it. We've been to space. You can see the fucking shit. a point in society where the the powers that be have let's say blatantly lied about certain things so as to like going to the moon i don't know i don't think we went to them all right let's not go there such as like i i want i want to keep this on topic that's why because i'll disagree with you there and we'll get on a fucking tangent. But like they'll inject some lies into things and get behind lies such that all our trust is unanimously broken. And so when trust is broken, what happens? You don't believe a single thing that's said, which means you also don't believe things that are probably true.
Starting point is 02:23:19 And so we're now living in a world where people are questioning every fucking thing, No matter how much of a waste of time it is or how ridiculous it is. But at the same time, you can have things like fucking Epstein or stuff like that that are so clearly like something fucked up happened. In your face. Yes, absolutely. So all I want in the world is to have some dialogue of nuance of like, okay, let's judge things on their own one by one and if something sounds like it's ridiculous just because just because what you don't want to hear came out of the mouth of someone you really don't like who you don't trust doesn't actually mean it's not true like that's a i know that's a hard concept for people to agree with you man but that is the case
Starting point is 02:24:02 i agree with you it's hard to turn off your bias man yes it's very hard for people to grasp. I agree with you, man. But that is the case. I agree with you. It's hard to turn off your bias, man. Yes. It's very hard for people to do it. Sometimes, like, I'll be in a room, and I know this isn't the case. I know there's a lot of people who think like me, including people who are listening right now. But sometimes I will be in rooms where I'm like, damn, I'm the only one who can see any fucking nuance in here. You have people who are just boom, boom, boom. And it's just exhausting.
Starting point is 02:24:23 I mean, I think it's really bad for humanity like where we're at but i don't want to take us off this with what we were talking about go ahead the reason they're declassifying all this stuff lately more than ever dr greer with his old troll that he just released okay is because i think the tech finally caught up to the spiritual meaning i can't say for certain if it's cern brother but something people can cern people that are spiritual feels you can feel the energy something's wrong can you explain cern cern is the large hadron collider it's the largest machine in the world it's out of switzerland and they speed up particles close to the speed of light, basically, in essence, creating wormholes, in my opinion. That's what they're doing. They're
Starting point is 02:25:09 creating wormholes. And that's how they discovered the God particle, the Hicks and Bussum, right? I think as they were conducting these experiments, and there's their logo, 666, right? They're trying to figure out how the universe was created, right? You want to be God, because that's what that is. You want to have God's knowledge, right? Why do they have a statue of a pagan goddess on their facility, a statue of Shiva? Shiva is used in the Hindu faith to destroy. Not to destroy like without rebuilding again. So destruction for construction.
Starting point is 02:25:45 Meaning destroy the existing so that Brahman can come and rebuild. Why do they have a pagan? Pull up Shiva statue. CERN. Shiva statue CERN. And by the way, that's 666. Yes, it's 666. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 02:26:00 That's very blatant. Right in your face, my brother. The CERN logo. So they're building these all over the world now. China's building one. The U.S. is building one. Why is that statue there? There's even a video that they call the hoax, but it's not a hoax.
Starting point is 02:26:14 There's a video where they show the scientists that work there dressed in black cloaks and that they're ending the life of a woman in front of the statue. They said it was a joke, but pull it up. Pull up CERN. Why would you even joke? Well, we can up CERN. Why would you even joke? Well, we can't show that on. Why would you even joke around about that with a machine that people like,
Starting point is 02:26:33 what's his name, was in the wheelchair? I don't know. Was it now Hawking? Hawking. Okay. My brain's fine. I love that.
Starting point is 02:26:41 I got it. Hawking said that this machine has the ability to unravel the entire universe. Okay, that's the type of technology you're playing with. That you could literally destroy the universe, unravel it completely. I would simply state, if you look at the rituals that they've done,
Starting point is 02:26:59 they have the ceremony they did in the tunnel, demonic shit, bro. Okay, dressing with goat horns and naked women. What does this have to do with science or a train station being open between world leaders were there. Okay. Type in opening ceremony. Okay.
Starting point is 02:27:16 What do you, what do you make things power? What do you think? One eye symbol everywhere. What do you think makes powerful people want to goat fuck each other? I think that a lot of them to get this loyalty. You mentioned the guy's name before. That's right in your face.
Starting point is 02:27:32 Definitely a honeypot to extort and blackmail and manipulate people in power to do whoever's running this world. Oh, Epstein. To do their bidding. Yeah. 100%. And there's control through that, right? I got you on video with minors. I got you on video with this.
Starting point is 02:27:47 I got, you don't do this. I'm going to destroy you. I have your life anyway. Even if I don't take your life, I have your life. My friends and family control the media. I'm going to put this everywhere.
Starting point is 02:27:55 You're finished. I think that's what's happening to Diddy. He didn't do something they wanted him to do. And they paid the Piper. Or is he like, you know, the fall guy, nothing's going to happen to him because what's interesting about the Diddy
Starting point is 02:28:04 video is that the same day that that video was released, a three-letter agency that's responsible for our health admitted on record that they funded that thing over there in China. And that's why we had the shutdown we had in 2019. The same day that that video was released. Well, what was everyone talking about they just admitted on record why our families lost their lives why the country was shut down that they funded everything they call people like me a theorist for you're a sea theorist they admitted his people the guy with an f rhymes with chi. That scientist, his people on record,
Starting point is 02:28:46 the same day the Puffy video came out, on record. Yes, we funded that. Yes, we funded the gain of you know what. Yeah. Rhymes with junction. Yeah. Okay? You're laughing, but we don't live in a free country anymore.
Starting point is 02:29:00 We don't have free speech. We can't speak. We have to speak in code. I love your code back it's great but that's how you know we're not free anymore americans tell me who you can't talk about i'll tell you who runs you yeah so he's like yeah this is more yeah no no i i'm i why is that statue i want to stay right on that point and it's i mean it's you're tying it all together with with these things but you know when you look at society and what and the dopamine rush that we have of just scrolling away tiktok yeah and how they can
Starting point is 02:29:34 use that against us everything's a deception the things that are true like a ditty which i i listen i'm not saying every single thing in that lawsuit is true but but I mean there's a lot of really good evidence there. That video we saw is horrible, so let's just assume most of it's true. Like that's a horrible thing. They got that video the day they raided his place. So they got it very recently, and they just released it very recently, but why on the same day? Right, right. But what I'm saying is like that's a truth.
Starting point is 02:30:02 It's a bad thing. It's a sacrificial lamb out there to say, oh, look at this. And then there are other things that they say, well, that's a worse truth, so let's give them this one, and they'll all flip out about that. Forget about this. Yeah, maybe. 100%, that's what happened that day. I'm not defending his actions. Neither are you. But let's also focus on it. But that was a great distraction.
Starting point is 02:30:21 Let's also focus on it, though. Great distraction. Let's also focus on it, though. Great distraction. Because let's be honest. This is a guy who for 30 years, I think just over 30 years, was one of the most powerful people in music. Pop culture. Yeah. Dominated it. Placed there. Literally placed there as an idiot 23-year-old.
Starting point is 02:30:37 Gets in charge of the biggest, baddest record label in the rap game at the time. Fashion mobile everything. Oh, yeah. All of it. And yet this entire time there's been this thing like oh yeah when you go to a ditty party look the fuck out you know maybe don't go or go with a fucking safety inspector if you do because the guy as we see in the lawsuit has cameras everywhere so obviously he's got to be some sort of like intelligence plot no no? Hey, who was saying it for a long time?
Starting point is 02:31:06 He worked with the – other rappers were accusing him of working with the feds. Yeah. I was at a Puffy party, but it wasn't just for him. No, I wasn't. Wait, you can't just say that. When were you at a Puffy party? You guys have got to subscribe for premiums to get this back. Wait a second.
Starting point is 02:31:21 Hold on a minute. When were you at a Puffy party? I was at 2001. We invented the remix. Buster Rhymes' birthday. It's also the night I helped Jacob DeJeweler become world famous. He never even met me. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:33 Okay. All right. But again, Puffy party. What do you do? Walk through the front door? I'm a college at Pace University. There was this girl, Russian girl. Her name was Victoria.
Starting point is 02:31:43 She was a good-looking girl for her age she knew i had a lot of juice to this club called lot 61 last 61 was on 21st street in the west side highway in manhattan so i'm sitting in front of school one day and she runs up to me she's like beck you know i heard you have like you know juice to get me into this place i'm like yeah but it's a tuesday like why do you want to go you know she's like every rapper in the world's going to be there buster rhymes puff daddy and i work for this jeweler his name's jacob and he hired me to give out his cars and try to get the rappers to come back to his store and buy things okay make the story short i get her in that night you could not see the front door of
Starting point is 02:32:20 this place i lost a friend that night he stopped talking to me for a while because I couldn't get him in also. You got her in. I got in with her. Okay? And I was only white boy in that party except for the managers that worked for the club. Amy Sacco. Anyone that knows New York Nightlife knows Amy Sacco. She owned Bungalow 8 also. She was a legend. She still is. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:32:39 I'm 18, 19 years old at the time. I'm walking into a Puff Daddy party. I'm seeing all the people I would see on MTV and I'm like, I'm gonna make it big in life. This is crazy. I'm a young a Puff Daddy party. I'm seeing all the people I would see on MTV, and I'm like, I'm going to make it big in life. This is crazy. I'm a young kid. I don't know. How big is the place? It fits about, at that time, it probably fit comfortably.
Starting point is 02:32:53 That place fit like 200, 300 people, but it was packed 500, 600, 700 people inside. I'm sorry. Where was it again? Lot 61. Lot 61. 21st Street and the West Side Highway. Now it's just an open crater. They knocked this building down.
Starting point is 02:33:05 They're going to build it. That's where I started in nightlife, actually. That's where I got my juice and started meeting people and hanging out with celebrities and stuff like that. Did you see anything weird? So now I'll tell you. So my interaction that night, first of all, I'm a fish out of water. I'm 19 years old. I'm wearing a suit.
Starting point is 02:33:19 So they all think I'm some, like, high-level executive. I'm no one. I'm a fucking college student. This is before google before you know phones okay if you don't know someone's face you don't know someone says the elite of hip-hop in new york city were there that night buster rimes ponytail was from his head all the way to his ankle that's when he used to have a very long ponytail you can research i'm not making this stuff up they released his album we invented the remixed the Remix for Puff Daddy. The song, special delivery.
Starting point is 02:33:45 I like that. Special delivery. So that album comes out. Everyone's there. I end up next to this guy. I don't realize who it is at the time. I put my credit card. Bottles were cheap back then.
Starting point is 02:33:58 It was like $85 for a bottle of Moet. Today, a bottle of Moet is $700 in a nightclub in New York City. A $ 30 bottle of champagne okay i opened the bottle this is you know when i used to drink i haven't drank in a long time so don't attack me in the comments muslims i don't drink i haven't drank in 12 years and i'm sitting next to black rob man black rob is famous for a song called like whoa banana like well i had this bad bitch that was what he was known for that was like his hit song i'm next to him i see victoria go over
Starting point is 02:34:31 to puffy she's attractive they're hanging out all night he's surrounded by girls dancing on the table like he does doing his fucking dances right and this guy black rob is like i hate that motherfucker man i'm like who man he's, back then he was called Puffy. He wasn't called, he was just becoming Diddy because he had broke up with J-Lo. He was making all those I Miss J-Lo songs. Like, I need a girl to ride, ride, ride, whatever. Make the story short.
Starting point is 02:34:55 I'm like, why, man? I can't make no money because of that motherfucker. I'm like, why? He's like, I have the hottest song out right now. I'm like, who are you, man? He's like, you know that song, Like Whoa? I'm like, yeah. He's like, that's my song.
Starting point is 02:35:05 Make the story short. I hung out there all night. Everyone was in are you, man? He's like, you know that song, Like Whoa? I'm like, yeah. He's like, that's my song. Make the story short. I hung out there all night. Everyone was in that building, man. That was famous. Were there any weird rooms? No, because it was a nightclub. It was public. So this wouldn't have been like going to his house, right?
Starting point is 02:35:16 This is not like I went to his house and got diddied, right? Yeah. Two weeks later, I'm in front of my school. This girl runs up to me, the one that I got in that night. Oh, my God, Beck, thank you. Puffy just came to Jacob's store. He just bought his first piece. He's bringing all the cameras from MTV now.
Starting point is 02:35:32 Next thing you know, you hear this guy Jacob's name all over the fucking, every rap song. Jacob, if you're watching this shit, I want to watch. Victoria, she worked for you. I got her into the Puffy party. I know you've seen my stories before. I want to watch, and Albania never forgets. I want to watch.
Starting point is 02:35:49 It's the least you could do. It's the least you could do. Can we get this guy a fucking watch, please? Can I get a fucking watch? I don't want Fugazi diamonds. I want the real shit. Oh, my God. Now, back to the whole demonic shit, and we'll wrap it.
Starting point is 02:36:00 I think what's been going on, Julian, is because technology has figured out a way to open a portal into that dimension. I think there's a real strong probability we're going to see aliens. Some people say Project Blue. If I'm right on my hypothesis, I think that there may be a portal where that dimension is going to come into this dimension and they have their powers you might see your dead grandmother from 30 years ago but it's not your dead grandmother it's a demon shape-shifting to look like your grandmother she knows the demon knows how to mimic the voice has some of the memories because they follow us they have a
Starting point is 02:36:41 longer lifespan than we do when you go to a fortune teller that just knows shit, like there's just no way, they didn't have your phone, they didn't have your license, like they found out shit about you that there was just no way they could have known, I promise you that that fortune teller works with the demonic realm.
Starting point is 02:36:56 But that's not an alien, that's an apparition, no? That is demons, brother. They share information. But that's a demon? Ritual, the djinn, that's how they operate. So your dead relative's a demon ritual the jinn that's how they are your dead relatives a demon no they shapeshift right but that's how you said if they were able to open a portal and i think they have figured out a way to allow their dimension into our dimension remember they're on this earth parallel to us i believe remember the story of cain the devil was able to shapeshift
Starting point is 02:37:26 and teach him music yeah remember some of the jinn the demonic realm have the ability to shapeshift they follow us they can mimic sound they can do all they have some of our memories but it also changes the reality every time that something like that could happen if it does what i mean but let me qualify that so you understand what i'm saying when i meet you kaku in here for episode 145 he gave an amazing explanation that's about an hour and 20 minutes into that episode where he talked about the fact that dimensions like if you look at dimensions through say an example of time travel right if you time traveled right now back to April 14th, 1865, and stopped John Wilkes Booth from killing Abraham Lincoln, you're not changing the reality that you currently came
Starting point is 02:38:13 from. That doesn't change. You simply create like an estuary off the river of another reality where the only difference right now, the only variable difference on that day, April 14th, 1865, from the history up to this point. Yes. I understand. Exactly. It creates a butterfly effect where there's all these different dimensions. And what he then explains, Michu, is that you have – everywhere you are, every room you're in, every place you exist, it's like a radio transistor.
Starting point is 02:38:41 And if you just move the radio transistor a little bit like that, maybe there's a a fucking dinosaur in here and then you get into the mandela effect and all that but let me finish i don't believe in that okay i believe there's other dimensions but i don't believe we exist in all those different dimensions you'd have to believe that yeah yeah so my version of that is no i'm in this dimension the demons are in their dimension, parallel on this earth, same time. We're both on the same timeline, but on different dimensions. Are you basing this off of the Quran? Based on, yeah, Islam, Judaism, Christianity.
Starting point is 02:39:14 We can't exist. This is us. That's it. It's us. We're eternal beings. This is the gift that God gave us. All the dimensions are on one timeline. You understand?
Starting point is 02:39:26 Yeah. It's just different. They're on this earth, but we can't see their cities and their world. They can see us, though. They have that ability. The best of them are the ones that stay away, and they don't interfere with us. The ones that are aligned with the devil when he fell from heaven, okay, they want to destroy us.
Starting point is 02:39:44 They want to lead us astray. If they were able to get into this dimension, it would be nothing more than to destroy and to deceive us. If they are able to keep their powers in this dimension, they can shapeshift into your grandmother to convince you that, hey, we made you. We cured death. Look, your grandmother is still alive,
Starting point is 02:40:02 and you're going to see your fucking dead grandmother. But it's not her. This is one of the theories. For those that believe in God, or what Christians would call the bottomless pit. The bottomless pit. Pull it up. Now, I'm joking. We've got to have fun, because I'm always
Starting point is 02:40:22 too serious on these shows, and these topics are really depressing. Your audience probably hates my guts. Alright, we got it. We got to have fun because I'm always too serious on these shows and these topics are like really depressing, you know? Oh, my God. Your audience probably hates my guts. All right, we got it. Are you not entertained? This was the Shiva statue you were saying? Was that normal?
Starting point is 02:40:33 Why is that there? Yeah, it's kind of weird. Why 666? Why are you playing with things that accelerate the speed of light? But it would be cool if like they had Zeus there or something. That'd be pretty cool. But this one has a different meaning. Yeah, just another pagan god, that's all.
Starting point is 02:40:44 Yeah, but Zeus is like a gangster. Like, he he's cool it's a nice legend well he liked us okay all right bottomless pit an islam heller jahanam is often described as a large pit located beneath paradise and coexisting with the temporal world it has seven levels each more severe than the one above it i didn't say islam christian perspective And the bridge of As-Sarat crosses over it. Oh, you want the Christian one. Okay, so that was the Christian bridge. I think Christianity believed towards the end of time, the bottomless pit opens. Okay, let's see. Demons spread
Starting point is 02:41:13 throughout the earth. In the Bible, the bottomless pit is a place where demons are imprisoned and is described in Revelation 9. In the story, the fifth angel sounds a trumpet and is given the key to the bottomless pit. Satan, who appears as a falling star from heaven, is then given the key and uses it to release a plague of locust-like demons, which was also in the story of Moses. The demons torment unbelievers for five months with such pain that they seek death in vain. The demons have wings that sound like chariots, scorpion-like tails with stings, and appear like horses ready for battle. They are
Starting point is 02:41:45 led by a king named Apollyon, which means destroyer in Hebrew, the angel of the abyss, whose name is Abaddon in Hebrew, and Apollyon in Greek has power over the locusts. When the pit is open, smoke rises from it, darkening the sun and air. What if this bottomless pit that the christian perspective has because remember muslims still believe in the bible they just believe that it has been tainted corrupted yeah okay mistranslated paul's words instead of what christ actually said the romans mythology instead of what god taught us from the you know first revelations which was God is one and all that. What if this bottomless pit is a portal to a parallel dimension? These aliens we're going to see, that they're preconditioning us to believe in, or nothing more, in my humble opinion, in this realm, trying.
Starting point is 02:42:38 It sounds like some Mortal Kombat shit. I know people think it sounds fucking crazy, but it's not any more crazy than what you're trying to make me believe. What if this is what it is? This technology figured a way to allow them into this dimension, and the human beings that work with them, like when they go to Bohemian Grove, you think it's normal that world leaders dress in cloaks in front of a 50?
Starting point is 02:42:59 Well, if you ask Jack Sarfati, he says it's normal as hell. Oh, no, we just go out there. They dance. They do plays. It's great. Yeah, and act like they it's normal as hell. Oh, no, we just go out there. You know, they dance. They do plays. It's great. And act like they're setting someone on fire. Yeah. In front of a 50-foot statue, the heads of every corporation in the world.
Starting point is 02:43:12 I still love you, Jack. Go ahead. The heads of every corporation in the world with leaders and people. I mean, seriously? And you think I'm crazy, but reality is stranger than fiction. That's not normal. Say what you want about AJ. Okay, I think he's out of his mind for a lot of things,
Starting point is 02:43:30 but when he penetrated, you know, the guy down in Texas, they're about to shut down his website. They're all coming after us. The whole liberal democracy is coming after us. Say whatever you want about the guy, but that single act of him getting into that place and getting that footage of people like David Gergen admitting that they're members. That's a fucked up video.
Starting point is 02:43:52 Okay. Have you ever seen that? Yes. And he's saying, you took an agreement when you went in there, right? You weren't supposed to. Yes. No, I just walked right in. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:01 That took place at the 2004 Democratic Convention at Pace University. I was there that day. I was fucking there that day. I didn't even know who AJ was back then or David Gergen or any of this shit that I'm talking to you about today. We're talking about 20 years ago. Oh, my God. That happened at City Hall Park. There's no description.
Starting point is 02:44:20 I know because I was there that day. They held the convention at my school, so he ambushed him in City Hall Park because I recognized the fountain in the background of that video. That day, they were all in the same building. I actually went on camera holding an Albanian flag that day because every news station in the world was there.
Starting point is 02:44:38 That's where AJ corners David Gergen. City Hall Park, 2004. The convention that they held at Pace University. Crazy. He doesn't deny being a member. corners David Gergen. City Hall Park, 2004. The convention that they held at Pace University. Crazy. He doesn't deny being a member. He doesn't deny the rituals. He just says,
Starting point is 02:44:52 why would you go in there and film and you're not a gentleman? Do you think it's... That video is real. All your audience needs to know is, is it normal for the most high profile, powerful, richest people in the world to wear cloaks like witches in front of a stone
Starting point is 02:45:07 statue that's 20 or 40 feet high setting a bonfire on whether it was real or not no one could confirm because he was too far away to see if there was actually human being in there but you can hear someone screaming why would they even want to reenact something like that people in charge of our banks and this and that because this babylonian magic my brother that goes back to the time of the ancient babylonians that was passed to the ancient egyptians through this demonic deception that's been going on since day one that they give knowledge to those that align themselves and betray the human race because we are brothers and sisters and i said this earlier too i hope none of my christian brothers and sisters. And I said this earlier too. I hope none of my Christian brothers and sisters got offended.
Starting point is 02:45:46 It doesn't matter what denomination. What I'm speaking about here, we all have the same enemy. We all believe the devil's real. I can't judge you. You can't judge me. Regardless of who Jesus Christ was, we still believe in him. We believe he's coming back. We both believe in an antichrist or a false messiah
Starting point is 02:46:01 who will have powers that no human being has that will deceive humanity into worshiping him like pharaoh told people to worship him and i believe they will have help from this demonic realm and there are human beings that are expediting this process and i think one of those ways might be through the cern project do you think that a lot of people who become a part of these high-level elite organizations if you will even when they're in it understand if it is like you know demonic rituals they they even understand they're part of that versus like oh this is just a club and i'm special because i got here because i'm talented at
Starting point is 02:46:37 something i think it's a burning boiling frog scenario they get in the water and the people that are around them to bring them into that world or to groom them slowly show them and turn them by the way this is we've been working for the whole time and by the way if you go public this is going to happen right like the mason as you were saying yeah and again i'm not even alienating them in that aspect okay i can't sit here and say all masons are evil but i think there may be branches of them that are i don't know yeah okay okay there's corruption in every society every group every political party every religion i'm gonna sit here and say islam's perfect and it's being like no no no no the concept of islam what the prophet told us how we're supposed to practice our faith how to have compassion and mercy for other human beings yes but the people that speak for the faith these governments that i won't say their names because i'll probably never be
Starting point is 02:47:30 able to visit i've never been to them but i would like to go perform my pilgrimage one day it's an obligation that i have like malcolm x went back and changed his life that was a man full of hatred when he came back he said no i think all americans can coexist before that he said anyone that was white is a devil he goes to mecca he sees white and black together eating he says actually no we're all brothers and sisters they blow his fucking brains out they blew his brains out okay that's uh because you know it is what is but what i'm trying to say is the summary of everything we spoke about. If you believe in the story of creation, if you believe in God, then you know the demonic realms will. The demonic realm was here before us.
Starting point is 02:48:14 And the demonic realm you think is this alien thing. There's a big part of them that their only objective is to destroy us. I believe there's human beings that cooperate with that dimension. There is an agenda to convince humanity they were created by aliens and not by God. And you can agree on that if you're a Christian and a Muslim, because we both can agree on that. And none of us have the knowledge and wisdom of God. I think there's technology that has figured out or discovered living creatures in another dimension.
Starting point is 02:48:41 They definitely know something. Would you agree that they know something that the masses don't know? The elite groups? know ufos uaps all this sure yeah sure do you think there's not more to this i think there's more to it you think it's aliens 100 i don't know do you think i'm crazy with this theory no i think you're i think you're basing it on abraham on yeah and on some of your religious beliefs which i don't necessarily have to agree with but i'm open to hearing what you have to say i don't really i'm very very ambivalent on all this stuff because when i say i don't know what i don't know let's expand that and get that to
Starting point is 02:49:22 we don't know fucking shit right we see we see we see some screenshots of someone who claimed they saw an orb on twitter right the best we can get is like a well put together james fox documentary and i love james good friend he does a really good job but like it's scratching the surface of the iceberg if that right and with all these cameras no real good footage and then then – but here's – HD? So here's an argument I have for that. If you were – let's play this hypothetical game.
Starting point is 02:49:50 If you were an extremely advanced civilization with technology that you and I could not even fathom. Comprehend, yeah. Thousands, tens of thousands of years ahead. Light years ahead of us. Let's not even say that this is a simulation here of their making. I don't want to go there. I just want to say they're an advanced civilization. If they are so advanced and effectively have the ability to be invisible, have the ability to simulate things ahead of time on – Forecast or whatever. let's say that these sightings that james reports on since world war ii i would you know he's my
Starting point is 02:50:25 friend i'm biased but like i think james is the greatest historian post-world war ii of any alleged alien sightings there is the guy's unbelievable but like let's say that these sightings that happened all over the world from australia to russia to china to africa to the u.s to south america let's say that these different patterns that all these different people from different walks of life saw that were very similar, you know, short, gray man, whatever, with the same kind of colored eyes and, you know, some ability of telepathy, slimy, touch them the whole bit, the UFOs they describe in a similar way with some of the similar symbology. And again, this is pre internet in many cases. So they couldn't like chat chat chat message each other and find out oh i'm
Starting point is 02:51:05 gonna say this you say that like let's say all that happened as those people reported it my argument has always been perhaps that is simulated ahead of time by said advanced civilization to say like oh this time we're gonna let these people see us because no one's gonna believe them anyway right we just want to see how that'll affect things. And let me tie this into something with just fucking with the human race. So there is a legend, and I'm going to call it that because I actually don't believe this happened. I think it's a legend. I lean towards this didn't happen. However, when Jimmy Carter was in office, Jimmy Carter was a very religious guy, right? Cared a lot about the church and believed in Jesus, the whole bit. There is a story that he was read in on intelligence by they had just told us is that there are aliens they are an advanced civilization not only have they been here they are here and they're the
Starting point is 02:52:09 ones who created all these different religions as an experiment to see what would happen with us humans and when i see something like that and then i take that idea and i airlift that into you know they're cited every once in a while by select groups of people around the world and there's a similar pattern so that you can tie it together and say, oh, do we have something here? I'm thinking they're in control of that. They let that happen. Perhaps they're flying right here, right now, perhaps, I'm not saying they are, and we can't see them because this is one of the quintillion trillion times where they're not showing their face, right? So maybe it is like they're just fucking with us. I don't know though,
Starting point is 02:52:46 because I can't think like that. And the only other angle that you'd have to inject into this as a possibility is that it could be time traveling future humans, right? Like you've seen the movie Interstellar, right? So Matthew McConaughey leaves the planet. He comes back technically like 85 years later, but his life is only past only passed i forget let's call it a year i don't even think it was a year but let's say a year in his time passed by while he was gone so he comes back his daughter who was fucking 13 when he left is now 95 dying on her death on her deathbed matthew mcconaughey by my definition of the word and i think the actual definition of the word is an alien he is coming from a different time in a different place to a
Starting point is 02:53:25 world that he did not leave. Now you could extrapolate that and say, oh, well then are the astronauts aliens when they go up in space for a year and come back? I understand that. But if there's generational shift and a completely technologically changed world, when you come back, you are effectively walking among things that you don't understand and can't comprehend. Or if you're a future human, in our example, you can come back and know everything and think that this is all primitive shit like people playing with sticks and stones. It's like us playing regular Nintendo right now. I don't want to play that shit. It's boring.
Starting point is 02:53:54 Even way worse. I'm going to play Call of Duty. But sure. Yeah. So do you open yourself up to the possibility that something like that could exist? You don't. Hard no. that something like that could exist, you don't. I think 100% there are other creations of God in different dimensions.
Starting point is 02:54:11 I don't think that this is all by accident. I think that we are towards the end of time for humanity, in my opinion. The end of time. Well, that's a whole other episode. I would love to do one day, talk about the differences of the end times and the different faiths.
Starting point is 02:54:28 Very fascinating stuff. Unfortunately, it's something I always spend a lot of time on, that even my teachers would get mad at me. Like, why do you always pay attention to the end times, the end times, the end times? Like, you shouldn't be focused on that. Something in my heart always told me that I should.
Starting point is 02:54:43 And, you know, it's not looking too good out there. You think so? Do you think because of nuclear war, AI? I think because the family unit, in my opinion, is the molecule of society. And when you split that, it's like when you split an atom. You can make an atomic weapon with that, right? Right, but there have been plenty of times in history where the family unit came apart and an empire fell but the world went on that's correct but this time we all have the same disease
Starting point is 02:55:12 what's that this culture that spread all over the world this only me only i matter them and get some money this is spreading throughout the entire world at the same time you see when we take things from the abrahamic perspective god only destroyed egypt at that time or sodom and gomorrah the only time he destroyed the whole world was during the time of noah but the world wasn't as advanced as it is today we didn't have as many civilizations there was only a few of them right this time we're advanced we're all over we're nine. He's given us time after time after time. We're not elevating the way we should spiritually.
Starting point is 02:55:49 We're de-elevating spiritually. We're degenerating. The reason why God made the angels bow to Adam, why would God take a beautiful creation that can do no evil and make it bow to us, bro, us, that do all kinds of wicked things to each other the environment to people like was that before he ate the apple or after that was before so technically we couldn't do evil at the time we didn't know sin well we had free will right but we didn't know sin but we didn't know sin in that aspect but here's the whole point the reason why was when a human being obeys the creator and stays within that spiritual compass of etiquette.
Starting point is 02:56:31 Brother, we all have different desires. The key is to not act on them. Some people have the desire to bang a horse. Like they might actually have that desire, but you're not supposed to act upon that. That's just sick, right? Yeah. Okay? That when a human being chooses to obey the creator, they're doing it from their own volition.
Starting point is 02:56:53 When an animal eats, drinks, sucks, fucks, it's just an animal. So when a human being, that's all they follow is their desires, they are lower than the beast because God gave you intellect. He gave you intelligence. The animal doesn't know what they're doing. They're just instincts. Eat, drink.
Starting point is 02:57:15 There's many human beings in this world that that's all they know. All they know is eating, drinking, sucking. Okay. And then it evolves into killing, stealing, taking. They have no morals. They only follow their desires. They don't use the intellect that God gave them and their soul, but their hearts die. Their spiritual heart is why they're able to do this. When you study the lives of people that were in World War II, that were in camps and what they went through
Starting point is 02:57:38 and the people that did it to them, they became numb, brother, because their heart dies. It's why I think heart disease is number one killer it's not because of what we eat i think it's the spiritual heart i think the hearts are hardening from all the excess all the evil all the sin all the lust and it's spiritual more than it's physical in my opinion but again there have been a lot of civilizations in time that you know you use some examples earlier that but even ones that are pagan yeah but they but they were enormous empires who ruled over much of what we knew of the world at
Starting point is 02:58:11 the time today and they're gone but i'm saying like it's not then how stupid does an american sound when they say so when you say end times are you just saying like the end times of like america is the leader in the world i think see that's where that's where i'm drawing the distinction though because you've seen plenty of times like if you it i'm just going i'm not saying i agree with all your argument but i'm saying let's go off of what you're saying with the disintegration of you know our choices before sure any why would you say that what do you mean why would i say it was do you think it's inevitable? Which empires lasted? None. I do think it's inevitable because I don't... Exactly. I don't know when.
Starting point is 02:58:49 It's only a matter of time, correct? But again, that's America, not the world. Yeah. We've only been around for 200-something years. So my question is, what do you think happens to the global order if we fall? Gets better or worse? I would argue from my American-centric view and bias it gets worse for sure especially for us right yeah yeah okay but even remove us from it but now let's just say
Starting point is 02:59:14 even if america lasts another 500 years let's say you don't think at some point that this this world ends sun's not going to shine forever. Even Diddy said that. Sun won't shine forever. But as long as it's here, then we might as well shine together. He did say that in his lyrics. Was that him?
Starting point is 02:59:34 Yes, Victory. It's the name of the song. So we know that sooner or later, this world... Wait a second. When the sun will shine... That'sihanna that's not diddy god damn it beck back to the episode you know won't be here one way or the other right scientifically it won't be here one way or the other that star the sun eventually dies unless we have an
Starting point is 02:59:59 interstellar moment or whatever the hell he did to bring the sun back or whatever it was shout out matt mcconaughey mcconaughey yeah is it mcconaughey or mcconaughey i say he that guy has had more money for like he used to promote this product called region x you put this in your hair comes back my man my man you got a hair transplant okay all right it takes one to know one all right you're in the 90s all right you you got a hair transplant. All right? Like, just admit it. I know you need to get your money. His hair looks great, bro.
Starting point is 03:00:28 Okay, I bought that shit for $500 or whatever it was back in the early 2000s. I'm putting this thing. I'm like, wow, it feels good. It was mental. I'm putting it in my hair. Because he was on this talk show. They're like, so what have you been using? It's a demon.
Starting point is 03:00:42 Because if you look at Matthew McConaughey, early 90s, he's like this with two cowlicks he had like no hair he's like bald yeah now he's like amazing you know his hair is he got a hair transplant yeah okay it's called a hair follicle replacement fue okay he probably went on turkish hairlines to istanbul matthew he got me good i got a couple thousand out of me for that one i was like 21 i'm like oh my god i'm losing but you were saying like the end we started this tangent with the interstellar plot where he goes and stops it from happening and you think we're on i think all the dimensions in my opinion all that we're we're all the dimensions that exist are on the same timeline i don't think we exist in us like there's not another beck
Starting point is 03:01:26 and another that like kind of like that show the man in the high castle oh yo phenomenal okay i i great i loved it i don't believe that that's the reality of the universe in the world that we but you argued for that earlier when you were talking about potentially the ability of cern because that's exactly what the nazis in that show we're doing a wormhole to allow the demonic dimension into this realm to fuck with us right but that's basically what the nazis were doing minus yes the exact terminology you're talking about altering timelines i believe that that might be a part of the universal timeline meaning towards the end of time they come into this dimension to lead us astray look we cured death look your grandmother.
Starting point is 03:02:05 You understand? Now we're worshiping these beings. We're following the false messiah. Okay? Because you hear people talking about Project Blue Beam. I'm just saying, if you see people telling you they cured death and they brought your grandmother back to life, I promise you, remember this lecture with Julian Dory. It'll be the most important lecture you've ever listened to in your entire life. Most important one. Okay? And your your afterlife because we're playing for keeps
Starting point is 03:02:28 people there's no second chance in the next round this is the only shot we got okay there's an agenda to convince people they were created by aliens and these people these characters we mentioned throughout the show i believe some of them know that they're doing it some of them don't realize they're doing it some of them just care about the money. And that's the truth. Beck Lover, I feel like that's a good spot to stop this freight train. We went all over the damn place. I'm really sorry to the audience. I really am.
Starting point is 03:02:53 Hey, listen. We should have been. It was interesting, but like, hey, when you're on a roll, I got to let you roll. It is what it is. Respect to everyone. Respect to all the God-fearing people out there. Respect to my christians jews muslims regardless of shout out everybody what i believe personally if i offended any of you i
Starting point is 03:03:11 apologize i don't have the right to do that it's your choice your soul you don't have to believe what i believe i don't have to believe what you believe but we are not enemies that is a fact i agree okay and there's powers that be that want us to be, and I think they're a part of everything we spoke about today. I agree. Respect to Julian Dory. Thank you for coming on, brother. Appreciate you.
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