Julian Dorey Podcast - #346 - ARAB on Bible Magic, China Lies, Cartel Hitman, Karma & Haiti Kidnapping

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

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Haiti is where it became real. It was like, oh, wait, I'm kidnapped right now. Yeah. So, I'm sitting in the cage in front of 30 guys with guns, and it starts raining. And these guys who act so tough worship the devil, and they know they have demonic forces behind them, they disappear. Like, why? You know, you Google, voodoo weak water. They're afraid of their rain. It makes them weak, is what they say in Haiti.

They're possessed by demons, which are usually symbolized by fire. I need my full capabilities here. I'm dead. So our escape plan was, like even all the other dangerous I did before, I interview the favela leader in Brazil. No one's ever done. The last two journalists that tried died. And you knew that? Yeah, I just go. I was going to keep going, of course. Gunned in my head in Egypt, Moroccan gangsters, could be the worst situation. I'm going to have fun. The cartel is when I really started coming back to God. How was the most fear I've ever felt. Okay, before we get to Afghanistan. Heavy. How to even go down?

What's up, guys. I just want to give a warm welcome and thank you to all the fans and subscribers of Arab who are over here checking out this episode right now. If you have not hit the subscribe button on my channel, I would really appreciate it. If you did that, it is the number one thing that helps us get videos like this into the algorithm. I really enjoyed this conversation with Arab. He is the man, obviously an amazing creator, but we are going to do more of these in the future for sure. So hit that subscribe button and enjoy the show. What the hell are you doing getting kidnapped in Haiti, man? That's a very common question, actually.

That's probably the most common question in my life. Yeah. Yeah, life's definitely changed since then a lot. I can see why. That's what Sonny said. He's like, yeah, my boy Arab got kidnapped in Haiti, you should talk to him. I'm like, what? Yeah.

And you were a YouTuber while you were doing. doing it. So it wasn't like you were there doing anything other than content, but then it goes south. Yeah, that's when the content became real for me. I felt the actual impact that content had because it had that impact on my life. Like it turned real. You know, this wasn't a game anymore where I'm some character. You know, like my videos are kind of authentic, but you always have that little character. Right. Right. Like you're entertaining at the same time. And so, So, Haiti is where it became real. It was like, oh, wait, I'm kidnapped right now.

Yeah. But you kept this, you like kept in character in a way. Like you were, I was watching the videos. It was like pretty fucking riveting. But you're calm and like friendly with them the whole time. First of all, how to even go down? Like for people who aren't familiar with the story and haven't seen the videos, how did you, when you got into Haiti, what were you looking to do? And then how'd you get kidnapped?

Well, the thing is the kidnapping is a little worn out. You'd be surprised how many people actually just got sick of it. It's more the lessons that were learned out of the kidnapping that should be talked about. And what are they? You know, in the West, they have this thing called therapy. Therapy is bullshit. Yeah, you need somebody to, like, guide you kind of, but there's no such thing as PTSD. No such thing.

You, there is, if you want to put a label on it and, and force it into a box. But the PTSD, you can actually turn into experience. You can choose to learn from it by actually facing it. So I wrote about the kidnapping. It's not out. My book's almost done. And I talk about how to turn that into experience. I mean, my life changed for the positive in so many ways after it.

I know it was kind of like a global phenomenon, but it was a very, very strong learning experience for me. aside from what I put my family through aside from the actual entertainment that came out of it or the knowledge that people get to see on like how to handle a situation like this is the actual impact it had on who I've become after that and who is that when you're inside there you see things that most humans wouldn't believe

so where inside and it starts raining and these guys who act so tough with guns and whatever and they worship the devil and they know they have demonic forces behind them they disappear

when it rains So, like, I'm sitting in the cage, and all of a sudden, my translator who's with me, who's also kidnapped, goes, you see what just happened? And I was like, no. And he goes, these voodoo guys, they're afraid of the rain from the sky. The murderous drug dealers, afraid of the rain. The rain. They're afraid of the rain. It makes them weak, is what they say in Haiti.

But what does that actually mean? It means they're possessed by demons, which are usually symbolized by fire. Hell and Christianity is a eternal burning place. Okay. In the Quran as well, Jin, which is demons are fire. So when you come out, you look for answers. You're like, why? You know, you Google.

voodoo weak water you see something it's like oh yeah that says these you know they're afraid it's rumored for me it wasn't rumored I saw it so then I come out

and I ask the question I'm like what was that I don't know what that was but I want to know more about it so you come out and you seek knowledge because it wasn't about YouTube views anymore

I don't give a fuck about a YouTube view anymore. It's about what force did I see in here that was actually right in front of my eyes? I mean, most people in most religions are looking at God as some guy in the sky. So now all of a sudden rain comes out from the sky and puts these guys out. Our escape plan was built off of having a hurricane because it was storm season. After we saw that, it was based on when there was a storm, we were just going to book it. We were going to break the roof out, and then we were just going to book it. We had like this James Bond escape plan set up.

And it was based off the rain. It's because we saw that. That was a privilege to be kidnapped. It's a privilege. It was a privilege to be kidnapped. God was putting me in a spot where the phone didn't matter anymore. You know, the hundreds of texts every day coming in of people wanting to travel somewhere or, you know, want to whatever or comment on your social media, it didn't matter anymore.

The only thing that mattered was being present because it's literally life or death. That's kind of the point of all the content too, right? It was like it's all life. for death. So you have to be present. So it forced me into this, into this really important presence, not worrying about anything in the future, not worried about anything in the past, not worried about the next YouTube number, not worried about, you know, something I did yesterday. say no I'm here I need my full capabilities here or I'm dead how did you keep such wits about you and and such a calm demeanor and also not for nothing you stayed in the ability this is

what I meant when I said it's not the right what I say but this is what I meant when I said you stayed in character you stayed in the ability to still capture things confirm that with them and make sure that was okay so people could see what was happening to you but you weren't you know most of the time you weren't sitting there shaking or anything you're capturing it you're breaking bread with these guys quite literally they're laughing with you but they're also negotiating with your family to like laughing get you home yeah laughing laughing is how that's exactly the answer it's laughter that's why i felt a good aura that's why i delayed my flight after I met you guys.

I appreciate you doing that. Yes, because the laughter is really important. Laughter is a universal language. You don't need missiles. You don't need missiles. Yeah, you don't. There is laughter, okay? And laughter has allowed me to communicate with all these people.

And at the same time, I was raised in a Catholic school. and i i remember this lesson that christ will never give you a cross that you can't handle which is actually basically just saying that like you'll never have a challenge that you can't overcome okay every everybody translates it in a different way and so i remembered that when we got there and i was like okay well you have you have two ways you could take this fuck or we're going to make the best out of this

so I'm making the best out of it it doesn't matter if someone's holding a gun to me in the corner of a room okay I'm still making the best I'm trying to survive sure but I'm going to make the best and then two they smell fear oh yeah

they can feel it that's universal in a different way just like laughter yes yeah so you can't show fear so you're standing in front of you know 30 guys with guns after the warlord shows up and you're looking at him and you're trying to make them all laugh is there any kind of even language problem to doing that though when you're trying to make them laugh because half of them don't even speak english the first step is learning the language. And now learn how to joke in the fucking language.

Exactly. You can easily joke in the language by learning the word friend. Friend is the most important word I learn in any language in a place that I'm going that it's dangerous. Or even in any language, it's become part of my actual process now. So I go to China. The first word I learn is hello, friend, thank you. Ball's here, guys.

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important to maintain composure and just make them laugh. You learn their language. You figure out who the boss is, too, always. And you go direct to him. And defer.

And, well, like, you're entertaining him. Okay? So you also become a gesture. All the years of content creation, like, they were there for a reason. They were there to teach me something. It's funny. It's funny. Because I, like, I started as a professional gamer yeah and then you know in gaming you have infinite lives and real life you do too oh you think you do you think you have more than one i do yeah but you can't respond no but each

day is a lifetime this is getting confucius fast on me all right expand upon that please would you like me to yes that's why you're here so Time moves differently for people. For each person, time moves differently. Okay. Why? Let's say you or somebody, anybody watching, is here for four months, going to a 9 to 5, which is really a 7 to 8 kind of, you know.

I see what we're saying. Your whole day is kind of gone. And that person goes for four months straight, goes to work, does like a physical job that doesn't really make them grow, okay, or something, you know, technical that doesn't really make them grow. They're just going to achieve their salary. And then I go for four months, and I sit, and I don't mean me. I mean, there's many people in the world, okay, top players in the world, go for four months. go for four months and for all four months you're you're sitting with the best teachers the best creators the best philosophers the best uh business people and you're

everyday learning from them at the same time you're learning a new culture by tasting it by feeling it by seeing it you're not just reading about it in a book okay and so if you do that for four months now compare to somebody who didn't do that for four months and who didn't work on their mind they're technically in the past yes I see what you're saying so time is a measure of progress more than anything to you rather than it is the passage of an actual number I don't believe in time you don't believe in time does that sound crazy sounds a little crazy but let's unpack it what is time you can't even define time it's the passage of it's hard to it's one of those words that's hard to define without using the word

itself and the definition but it's it's the passage I would say of moments that measures a period from one period to the next to measurement yeah between us in the solar system yes like it's literally nothing. It's nothing. It's literally nothing. Do you get it? Like it's just a way to track how far away you are from something.

So most people are using time as some sort of futuristic anxiety. Like, okay, shit, I got a meeting in 21 minutes. I got a meeting in 21 minutes. And they're living in that moment rather than living in the present. They're still using time as a constraint. yes yes yes or they regret the past and they're stuck in the past and so now they're wasting their mind share which is all you have every action you do is a thought okay so now you're wasting your mind share on future and past and you're not living in the present and it's when you live

completely in the present that all your dreams come true all those actions of you, not procrastinating in the present moment, you know, let's do this podcast now. I texted you yesterday. You're here. We're present. We're in this room. But guess what? We're about a time travel onto people's feeds.

You get me? Yes. They're going to watch us X amount of time from now. Right. A week, a month, a year. About two weeks. Then they're going to watch different perceptions of our podcast on short form content. So not only is the whole message that we're having here.

here not being portrayed, but they're going to then perceive up millions of people from this. We're time traveling right now. Crazy, right? It is crazy. It's not too crazy, though. It's crazy in a way that makes sense. It's crazy to me because you, when you start to layer something that's so, like, abstract like this, like we start with the definition of something that is just common to all of us from the day we're born

and we don't really think presently about what it is, no pun intended, but then you start to think about how that can be manipulated to change how we feel about it at any moment. And it's strange that you bring this up because you and I just met officially today, but it's like there were a couple things there. I thought you were like talking directly to me because that was some,

I was having one of those like very deep thought nights last night. and I was writing down a lot of things that I think are completely wrong with myself and one of them was the inability to stay present consistently right now and I think that the way you put it about time being in anxiety I have a meeting in 21 minutes I have to get my flight at six or seven o'clock I have to do this after this thing tomorrow I have to do this workout instead of that one you're not thinking about where you're at right now. And the one really great benefit of my actual job like this part of it where I do it is I'm not bothered by this thing for three hours. We kind of shut out the world and I'm forced to

be president. But when I walk out of here, it's very, very difficult. Yeah, it is. It is for most people. And that's why the Haiti kidnap guy is so cool. Not me, but the story and what it did to me because it forced me away from that yes for two and a half weeks and then when they would give it back to me to text somebody and I'd open Twitter if I had a few minutes I'm like what's up with the world right now and I'd see some like bullshit news yeah I'm like I'd rather be here bro and you'd rather be there yeah I'd rather be here bro I don't want to be in the bullshit news like were you having fun I was having a blast bro I have a blast with everything like that's just me okay it could be the worst situation

I'm going to have fun Okay, that's just how I see the world I was having a blast I knew it was serious But I'm also not coming out of here I don't know how long it's going to be 50 days 100 days Could be three years

Did you even have a concept of days Working out every day Working out every day Like way more than I ever would I got nothing else to do Right fucking 300 pushups a day Barely eating food Stretching like still pushing my body

To the limits that I I could. I had nothing else to do. And so just pray and work out. And you come out and you become more religious. You know, you look for answers. I saw bulletproof people. They were bulletproof people. They were bulletproof. I sound crazy saying it. That's why I wrote about it. Like it really only makes sense if you, if someone is seeking to understand what I saw. You know, like that's where I shifted from a just a content creator who was having fun like even all the other dangerous shit I did before I was just having fun that one way it was like oh wait I'm actually living in a fucking warlords or fighting each other right now like this is a movie

this is a tom cruise movie it's like tropic thunder literally you know oh shit we're doing it yeah like and there's many people who have been you know through their own really crazy journeys there's crazy travelers now that's why I'm building taboo TV you're building taboo TV yes what's this so my content was a little so raw I guess that YouTube doesn't really push it they restrict you know like a chicken fighting video sure you know they're not got to let that on YouTube yeah but like if I'm in the Dominican and someone invites me like this is cool yeah you're not gonna not go you know like right any dude would go you know like when you're going to look at your boys and fuck it guys like oh you're in town too

let's go rooster fighting you know like you're going to want to censor that by the way on this podcast so I'm sure just the fighting you might I don't know we'll be all right I get hit I have a I got PTSD oh so now you got from demonetization now you're like being a hostage no No problem. I don't give a fuck about that one. Demonitization? Yeah, so there was like some videos like, okay, I interview the favela leader in Brazil. In Rio?

Yeah. No one's ever done that. Ever. The last two journalists that tried died. And you knew that. Yeah. I think I'm out of known that after. I just go.

I just, I don't really care. Yeah, you're going to shoot first. I'm not worried about the news. Yeah. You know, I'm like, I could talk my way out of any of this. and I have a few hundred bucks in my pocket just in case I need to double down you know like

so then they show me this drug market bro you wouldn't believe it right now as we're sitting here on this table they have an open drug market selling the craziest drugs you can imagine like out on the street kind of

in every favela they have certain little pockets every 100 200 meters so this is everything from like heroin into Tylenol? No Tylenol. Okay. Just hard.

That's good. Yeah. Yeah. No Tylenol's, yeah. Dangerous. Yeah. We don't let the Tylenol out here. Yeah.

Dangerous. Yeah. So, you can't show that on YouTube. So I put a site. I'm like, I want people to see this. Like, I'm learning. Let people also learn, you know? And within four months, it got to like 700,000 users.

Just me filming the crazy show. I was going to keep going, of course. Gun to my head. head in Egypt, you know, Moroccan gangsters telling me about the Karkubi pill trade. Karkubi pill? Yeah, it's like a glue sniffer pill. It's like a North Africa. I was just interested, you know, I'm curious.

Like, what's in every region? How does the governments work with them? What is this, this, that? And, you know, you're chasing the once a week YouTube upload. You can't, it's a ruthless game. But in a way, I mean, you're going all over the world. You're always bumping into something. I mean, you got ideas everywhere.

Everywhere, infinite. And so, and it's still so untapped. Yes, completely. So then it got too expensive, my site, it got too expensive to run for free. I was paying like 8 to 10K out of pocket a month. Oh, for the servers and everything? Just to give my viewers, just a bet, like,

I'm cool, I'll tank the cost. Just learn, you know, watch, whatever. And then I had to put it behind a paywall. And the first month, I made 40K. I look, okay, great. That sounds awesome to me. Like, okay. Great.

Like, I didn't want to be on Patreon. Patreon is like begging your viewers for money. That's why I don't have a big Patreon. Not good at asking. Patreon is like begging your viewers for money. You can't even tell them like, hey, guys, support me. I have this cool product. It's like, please, my business model is failing.

Please help me make video. And then you see these people with big Patrions And it's like, dude, you could have done something so much bigger By doing it yourself Well, like, one, it makes viewers want to support you more Two, there's an actual product that you can exit from When you turn it into taboo TV So it went from Arab Uncut

Okay, where I was making on an average month 30, on a good month 50. I ran that for like 10 months and I was like, this is a waste of time for me to build this on my name. This could be bigger. This could support so many creators. Okay, it's already something I use. Let me just put this money that I've made from it

and then build it into something that other people can use. So the ability for creators to travel creators, bro, this guy just filmed the revolution of Nepal. He was just traveling and he popped open his GoPro, which everyone has now. Or a DJI or a phone. Everyone is a creator. Yes.

And so the space is becoming extremely competitive. And there's also so many people that are getting demonetized that don't have the experience that I have. I have the only monetized, non-age-restricted as well, rooster-fighting video on all of YouTube. do we see anything

you see as much as YouTube would allow you see the exact limit of what YouTube would allow I re-rendered that video 38 times we tested it on four different channels okay we eventually figured out that they were

like finding out between two words we used even words that like not rooster fighting we said cock cock fighting I think and they were catching that So we had to remove the end of cock and then just the end of fight. You could see it.

Yeah. It was, it was a, but it's the only monetized rooster fighting video on YouTube. You can see the whole process of how they train the roosters, okay, how they give them steroids, how they slaughter bloodlines of chickens that are running away inside a cage because they don't want no pussies. Like they go hard. This is an official sport in the Dominican Republic. An official sport. So if you actually want to see... Literally, it's an official sport.

Cockbashball. If you go to Dominican and you step outside your resort, you can easily find one. I'll bet. They're happening every few kilometers. Yeah. Normally many. You're not surprising me.

It's just... It's funny that it's actually like a association. It's happening right now. As we're sitting here on this podcast in the present moment. Yeah. all these things are happening. I know. How crazy is that?

It's nuts, man. How big is the world? We are one little part of the transistor radio on an infinite scroll. And then so what did I learn from that mug? Yeah, from Haiti. Is that hell is actually a place here on Earth. Going online without Express VPN is like not closing the door when you take a shit in the bathroom. Even if you think you think you.

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E-X-P-R-E-S-V-N dot com slash Julian Dory. Click that link in my description to find out how you can get up to four extra months with ExpressVPN. Once again, that's ExpressVPN.com slash Julian Dorey. Most people are so worried about attaining a heaven in the afterlife. But the afterlife is simply all your actions stacked up day by day, and it's carmic retribution coming back to you. So when you treat people with malintent,

it will fuck you up one way or another. Yes, I agree. And the more aware you become of how the karmic laws work, the quicker the punishment if you have malintent. Just as hell is a place here that I saw with my own eyes and many other people. have stories like this it's not just me you know kidnapping was my thing but many other people have been to deep depths of hell here on earth heaven is also a place here on earth says in the bible in

luke 1721 that the kingdom of heaven is within you and it's within everyone that's why Jesus says treat everyone like you would want to be treated yourself because that stacks okay the the more you buy a homeless person food okay the the more you help someone in a daily task that they need whatever it is you create positive thoughts in their brain which echo infinitely to other people like a butterfly effect And so what you're doing is you're creating consistently stacking over and over every day with every interaction you have with a person, every interaction, a random stranger, a person who's looking at you with malintent, light always wins, always.

If you can take anything from all the places I've been, the craziest place in the world, light always wins, always. So every time... Always. Maybe I'm taking this too literally, and that's why my first thought is literal and figurative. Okay. But you're saying every time a good person is facing a bad person in that moment, the good person wins no matter what, even if the bad person blows their brains out? You're seeing a perspective that you could actually shift and see from a different perspective.

there is a stacked carmic if you've done negative it says in the scriptures by the way the Bible is a book of magic a book of magic it's a book of magic why do you call it magic people read the scriptures to see them literally

kind of like this literal question you just asked me But nobody ever reads the Bible the same. No two people ever read the same book. Even with the Quran. That's why when people say, oh, but the book's unchanged. It's like it doesn't matter. Because if I read it today and you read the same verse today at the same time, we would perceive it differently. That's right.

Right? And so imagine how many different perceptions there are of the Bible. kind of how I came to you today and I told you what you needed to hear okay what the Bible teaches you is that everybody is a messenger everybody is a messenger if you

if you know the truth is that like the concept of what's the fray I'm trying to remember this dare but for the grace of God go I kind of deal yes yes exactly exactly that Paul says in Corinthians and I don't want to get too scriptory but I mean I know many there's many different ways we can go but it's an important lesson outside of scripture right people listening need to not look at it as a Christian belief once you remove that label once you stop putting oh this guy

is a blah, blah, blah, so I already have this judgment about him. Once you remove all those labels, he says, be many things to many people. So, like, I'll have people in my comments on Instagram go, oh, but you were just with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Brother, you can't be filming this haram. And I'm like, and then they go, oh, is he a Christian or is he a Muslim? Sometimes I reply to them. I'll be like, I am whatever I am to you.

Because it doesn't matter what I tell you. Like these million people that see this, it doesn't matter what I tell you. You have a perception about me from my videos. And if I tell you this now, if you are living in that hell on earth, then you're stuck in having negative thought patterns about me already. Right? You are literally all your thoughts combined. this is very deep yeah you're making meaning i'm making assumptions about you that aren't my when you could be wasting you're wasting yes you're wasting your mind share i agree yeah and so it's a

it's a process that you have to do consistently you can change over time change is good people think change is not oh you changed yeah no should i changed i went out into the world to learn yes you know like yeah it was just a youtube video at some point but then i realized oh shit like there's so much more i know nothing i literally know nothing i can admit i know nothing tabula rasa and that's a really important thing that people need to learn you actually know nothing there's like so much information in the world and it's important to seek because there's many ways that God will talk to you

God will talk to you through your algorithm God will talk to you through a DM from a person God will talk to you from a person on the street it just depends if you're tuned into it

you could totally go oh no he would never okay that's great he would never for you maybe that's true for you but he definitely talks to me I see the signs you know

I see the signs and it's not like you can look at each person has a different way that God will talk to them some it might be direct some it might be there's so many ways there's infinite ways so when people try to box him in

and then they say oh and God will never talk to you Yeah, I just I don't believe that I know that he does because I've met people I went to Southeast Asia to meet spiritually enlightened gurus I went to Saudi Arabia

to the holiest sites to talk to sheikhs I went to the Rasta I wanted what I saw in Haiti was the best thing that ever happened to me since that's the theme that we're on that's the important lesson from the Haiti kidnap guy is that you need to treat other people well and that will infinitely stack and return to you

that moment you have $10 in your pocket and someone's hungry on the street and you know you're going to be fed in an hour fuck it just give it away. There is infinite. Yeah. There is infinite. Okay. Like, it could be a $100 bill sometimes. If I feel the person needs it, okay. But it's not about me doing that. It's about the exercise of abundance. Yes. This is also important. Okay. Money's not yours. Money is literally not yours. Money is gods. Money is gods. Money is gods. Okay. That's a new one. Yes. money is not yours money is gods and the more good you do with your money the more god will allow you to have more so that you can continue to reproduce and he'll always take care of you it could be like

you are on your last few days you're about to go bankrupt and god will send i'm sure you probably had it you seem like you've had moments like that just from sitting in front of you you know I know what this grind takes, right? And so the more you lean into those moments, the more they'll happen. Yes. Money is God's is a big one to get to. I just skip the big step. You have to first understand that money is just energy.

And so they trap people in a salary, for example, like a, and they take all their energy, right? like they have the same amount of hours in a day they take all their energy they drain it for $13 an hour that's all you're worth yeah this is all the energy now eat plastic ramen noodles I saw a picture the other day there was a cartoon someone drew I think it was on Twitter but it was a man sitting on a bench next to a little boy and the man was kind of like stressed i wouldn't say like necessarily miserable but stressed out and like leaning forward like this and the little boy was just looking at him with curiosity as if he just wanted to talk and spend time with him and it showed the thought bubble above the man and the thought

bubble was money bills a flight he had to catch shit like that and it showed the thought bubble above the kid and he was just thinking about the two of them sitting there on a bench together and spending time. And I think there's something very powerful in that the world kind of takes this curious light you have as a young kid to just live in the moment and experience things and turns it into exactly what you talked about earlier that we already mentioned now twice, which is make it about the anxiety of the things that you are worried about having or not having at a future point that's not this moment right now. and that's why in all the scriptures

it says that the kingdom of heaven is for the children it says that in the Bible it says that in the Quran it says that and I'm pretty sure in the Hindu Vedas it says something similar that's a really important lesson because you can't get rid of that curiosity

at some point they box you in whatever the system is it boxes you in and it says you're not allowed to ask these questions you're not allowed to say this you're not allowed to be curious anymore okay you can't want you you're not a lot to click blah blah blah okay because we don't want you to you're not allowed to go here I'm gonna go everywhere bro I'm gonna go everywhere I want to see the whole world the whole dude I've been to 80 countries and I still haven't even seen even close to 1% of the world that's how big the world is been to 80 countries and i still haven't even seen close to one percent of the world

yeah i might have hit you know 80 out of 200 40 percent but i haven't actually seen even one percent there's so many little civilizations societies here and there move 50 kilometers there's another completely different culture look at new york this is just one hub oh you could spend your whole life here and not discover it yeah if you're trying to be a subtle showstopper when you walk in the room, you got to get yourself a white True Classic tea just like this. The guys at True Classic started with a simple mission to bring premium, comfortable clothing to the masses because looking and feeling great shouldn't come with a designer price tag. And clearly, people agree. Everyone votes with their dollars. So seeing as True Classic has sold

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Conditions apply. See your local Nissan dealer today. Now imagine the whole world. Exactly. And so if there was more communication and more, now people are seeing it. through content and now people are able to make internet money so they can travel and get paid directly to their phones anywhere and credit cards all connected now so now people are going out and seeing the world and it's creating especially after this much war it's creating this this big

energetic bubble where people are learning to communicate with other humans and other languages learning that hey maybe your way of life is not the only way of life you know maybe there's millions of other ways of life and they're not all wrong sorry to tell you you know a lot of people spend time deeply in telling other people that their ways of life are are wrong yes right but the idea is that there's there's infinite ways to live and you choose it's all on you you choose where you want to be what about the people though who are born into let's say more old school, as you might define it in the West cultures, who don't have economic opportunity or even the exposure opportunity as kids and young adults to even know

what else is out there to leave. You must seek in order to have exposure. And exposure will come. but you have to actually seek you have to look at yourself and say i want exposure to more i want to learn about this i there are people that have sure they may never have access to internet i've met many people in deep afghanistan living in a cave okay they have the basic understanding already within them to treat other people like other people like other people like don't have to have all this that we're talking about right it but you choose so like that person who

might not have exposure yeah they're probably living a they might i mean ignorance is bliss you know like if i'm living in a in the forest in america and you know i wake up and i garden and there's nothing wrong with that no none of this is about you know it's just that if you want to seek the knowledge it will come to you but you have to actually seek like it's not enough to just say just to think it yes you have to act you have to cert you have to there's so many ways i'm more talk i should have been more clear on that i because i agree that just because someone's living off grid or living like that that doesn't mean they're not the happiest person alive i'm more trying to get at the people who maybe live in oppressive

situations you know think let's talk an extreme example you're born in north korea sure you know what i mean you don't even know up from down how do you know that i had a North Koreans sitting there. That's cool. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, I talked to them for six hours. All right.

It was cool as shit. That's cool. That's a good answer. I don't know. I've only been to the border in North Korea, you know. So, but I will say that when I went to China, I love China. Oh, my God. Where'd you go in China?

All over. All over. I went for three weeks, and I went to 13 different cities. High-speed train. In three weeks? All over. Wow. Yeah.

What was it like? I'm a big explorer though, you know? Like, I don't go sit in the hotel. Oh, yeah. It's like hotel, Don, we're out. Yeah, I can't see you sitting around like texting. Every day, yeah. I mean, even texting, it's while I'm walking.

Yeah, so I'm saying. Yeah, you're not the guy like just sitting there, doom scrolling. Yeah, no. Yeah. So what, what was China like? I'd never been. China's fucking insane. Insane.

It's so insane. Like, it's so insane. It's so high-tech, it's so cheap, it's so clean. People seem pretty free. They do. Yeah, people seem pretty free. I mean, there's business owners, right? Like, who's owning the hotels?

Who's owning all these towers? Like, someone is becoming a businessman and building it. And, you know, there's people driving. There's rich Chinese people. Obviously, there's bigger Chinese homes. There's cheaper Chinese homes. There's penthouse, like, there's rich Chinese people, right? Yes.

Like, is that the basis of what makes someone free that they can capitalize as much dollar? It seemed like it was all, China broke the Western propaganda for me. I went to China, then I went to Afghanistan. And both of those broke the Western propaganda for me heavy. Okay, before we get to Afghanistan. Heavy. Bro, I live in a completely different mental world. All right.

Like, what your perception of what Afghanistan is might be just completely different to mine. Oh, I'm sure it is. I haven't been. Like, or any American watching. Yeah. Yeah. Unless they've been. I've had a lot.

Like, I haven't had Lord Miles in here or anything, but like a lot of the... Lord Miles might be dead. Huh? I don't know. He's doing a 40-day fast. There's a big bet on Polly Market for him right now. Oh, I haven't even seen any of this. It finishes tonight.

People are betting millions. Whoa. On whether he's dead or whether he survived. I've been recorded a 40-day fast. I'm going to bet on him. He's a savage. Yeah. Lord of Lord Miles is a savage.

I feel like he's about that life. Yeah, I agree. I agree. But like a lot of the guys I've had in here, and I've had in many talk about Afghanistan, they all talk about it from, they're all special forces guys. And they're all guys who had to see the war of it, which is a totally different side. It's rough, totally different side. Before we go full-blown to Afghanistan, though, what about, I love the Afghanistan topic.

It's a wild place. But what about China? That's like a big statement. It broke the Western propaganda for you. The thing is, bro, I don't really play politics. So I'm international communicators, how I see myself. I'm also a cultural chameleon. Cultural?

I like that. Cultural chameleon. So I have a lot of inspiring from people such as Jim Carrey, Borat. I watched some Ross Kemp growing up I like these kind of humorous satirical but also artists you know artists so

with China okay and it's not political it's all purely for for knowledge purposes I went and I pushed the limits bro I went and I like snuck into the great wall of China into a part where it's like it's illegal to go we

I don't want to say we definitely we definitely didn't bribe a cop we never would have you wouldn't do that no we would never we would never do that yeah but I do love to push the limits so in an alternate reality in an alternate reality

a cop got paid like way too much I would have just to see just to you know like can you do this all I'm saying is I would have loved to see the Western propaganda if in the alternate universe you had been caught for that, you know. And the idea, and I get you, I totally get you, right? Like,

that would have been interesting, you know, to come out, to come out and see that. Like, I don't, I don't want this to come off as like, it's more that there's good people everywhere. Like the cop who got paid, he was a good person. No, the idea, the idea is that anywhere you go, you can have a chat with people okay um as long as you come in with a smile as long as you are trying not to force your weight we're so used to in the west because it's multicultural but forcing our way yes i got to force my way i got my voice out i need to have the biggest flag you know i need to i need to show that um this you don't you can go to another culture and you can respect it you know you can go to afghanistan and you

you can be in Afghanistan and respect their culture and respect the leadership that's there while you're there, right? Instead of going to Afghanistan and going, women must be naked, only fans, yeah, you know? Like, I'm not, why don't you do that? You know, like, and so with China and Afghanistan, they're both kind of on a similar topic because, you know, they share a border.

Yes, oh, yeah, they're in the same area. Oh, yeah. And they're both. perceived as this like really non-free completely enclosed off societies that we hate yeah with respect to china where i would agree with you is that there is like the whole it's never enough they'll say those they'll pick you know in the west i'm saying they'll pick out things that are like i think objectively that's not great and then they'll be like therefore everything and it's like There is nuance, you know?

Well, there's infinite nuance. Yes. Infinite. There's 8 billion people, and from now until the time you die, probably like 60 billion people will cycle through life. I never thought about that, actually. Wow. Okay. Now, imagine stacking all their thoughts on top of each other.

Okay. Every idea, everything here was created in the mind, right? The phone, the mic stand, the mic, the mic. the coffee the plastic the computer the wall whatever so stack that infinite there's infinite nuance now compare how many different englishes there are okay there's hood english there's hood southern english there's posh english from the uk there's people in scotland you can't even understand but they're speaking english okay there's irish people you can't even understand they're speaking english there's people on the west coast people in the northwest there's

people in Texas, there's Mexican English, Spanish English, Hispanic English. New York, English. There's New York. There's New Jersey. So imagine just English, how many extensions of it there are. Now multiply that over thousands of countries. Stack all these people's thoughts on top of each other. There's infinite nuance with everything.

Yes. And so therefore, perception becomes reality. So when you have... have perception of fear, it's okay to understand that there might be a threat. It doesn't mean you need to fear it. When you have perception of fear, that fear echoes back into your life. I agree with that. You have to face the fear. I agree with that. You have to turn the fear into courage. Okay? You have to turn it into experience instead of PTSD. So for all the Afghanistan military people that were here you have to forgive that's the only way to get over the PTSD you have to

forgive my kidnapper and then after what did he teach me what did this guy teach me what did this experience teach me so long did that take to get to that point forgive i forgave right away right away yeah i would love to have dinner with him like what i would love just to show him what you could do in the world like his perception of the world is like shitty Haitian cash like this is everything in life cash let me have a big pile of cash on this table his pile of cash still is not worth as much as your studio like he's thinking so small you know and the cost of a human life he's just ignorant he grew up in a country you know that you know that's what he had but he also chose to make decisions there's good people in that country you know some people

might have a bit of a different test everyone has a different test but the point is where were we sorry i go i go off no it's okay i was getting really fascinated by that actually i had a question because you had said earlier that you saw what hell on earth look like because you could see like the demons and the devil in people and you're referring of course to some of the people that were in that very situation who you still treated like a friend and like a human being and who you still clearly have massive empathy for based on what you just said and so the question is because you just also mentioned that there's good people in Haiti who didn't make the decisions they made that said the environment there is very difficult you're in a way

born into a hell and so I guess what I'm asking is do you think some people are just in that type the situation molded by their environment such that they just are the devil without having the intention of being that? I think what I mean, I couldn't tell you all the exact details, but what I think about the situation is that all your actions stack carmically infinitely. every single malintent action you've had towards someone will stack infinitely negatively towards you think about how he kidnapped me okay this warlord and how malintented he was and how much trauma that caused all my loved ones extensively now could you say some

of the blame was on me sure of course i chose to go in there but i've always just done what i've been guided to do i don't know i just i just go i don't know what my next plan is tomorrow you know i get a i get a feeling and intuition and i go somewhere okay even that place i was meant to go there okay so but it was his malintent that is going to return all that upon him he caused infinite levels of you know negative impactful thoughts and feelings towards people i went in there with good intent i wanted to hear a story from somebody who might have a different voice and ask him some questions so that we could all learn why things happen in the world that was my intent going in yeah it was for a cool story as well because that's my business right but

it's all about your intent so that stacks infinitely so this person being born there and having a worse life i don't know i don't compare i don't think about him i would assume that he's probably done a lot of bad in his life or in in you know previous previous lives if you ever heard that kind of theory before reincarnation yeah i mean that i idea is just that there's a there's a carmic everything that you know expands must contract that's proven by physics it's proven by uh nuclear science so many things you know but i choose to usually use the spiritual route to define things yeah we'd gotten you got onto this tangent because you were talking about it in afghanistan

and you referring to some of the guys i had in here as well who might have PTSD from those experience and how they just have to forgive it. And that's why I asked you, like, if you forgave the guys who kidnap you and everything. But you think that's, you think that's all it is? Because you do, and you understand this better than almost most people in the world. Like, the world is a beautiful place and simultaneously it's a very ugly place. And you see things that your mind cannot possibly be prepared for. How do you, you can't delete that hard drive. You don't delete it. You have to learn from it. that's why all the stories all the parables in the bible about somebody facing a hardship and coming

out on top they're not the past they're right now they're literally right now it's like the hell that you had to go through to all the challenges you face to build this you know all these uh the the the the worst that you've ever felt hey let me ask you a question because this question help me get over this bump. If somebody kills themselves do they go to hell? No.

Just for that? Just for killing themselves? Why? Have you had friends or family who have done that? No. Okay. I think when you are

around that and you see people who sometimes suffer completely in silence and you never saw it coming and then there's other people where there were signs there. I think you think about all the good that they did in their life and the things that they did for other people. You talk about that karmic you know stacking and i think you realize that somewhere in there there was a pain that they didn't feel comfortable enough going to other people to seek help with and they felt like they would just be a burden to those around them and so they felt in order to lift that it would just be best if they weren't here and i don't because i understand where people come from in this argument, there's some religious arguments that happen with this as well. I get it. It's a very

complex, unfathomable thing, but I think that I don't look at it like you murdered yourself or anything like that. I think it's a last resort that in the moment they feel like it's a selfless act, and in reality, there are people who care about them when they leave. Great. I agree with you. What if they were already in hell? Meaning they were already not a good person? No. Okay.

No. As in all the mind share that they have was being used on negative... Imagine the worst you've ever suffered as a 32-year-old male. you've been through some shit for sure I mean in whatever way you've been through some shit you never thought about killing yourself yeah you might have been like

okay what's the you know just as any boy is out of curiosity like okay what would be the most optimal way to do it you know would this be painful yeah you've contemplated but you've never actually like seriously thought about it I did once okay and you made it out of it Yeah. And how much did it teach you?

A good bit. So with every bit of negative thought that you have, you have the ability, and this is something you learn from the scriptures, okay, or if you seek deep enough, you have the ability to transmute that, okay? A, feel this. In one word, describe that sensation. Cool. Cool.

cool and warm you would define as in some ways opposites opposites but nothing is an opposite they're actually two varying degrees

of the same thing it's a circle it's the yin and yang it's a circle that's from the I now pronounce you, Chuck in line. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The gay movie, the wedding one, right?

I've seen that movie like 20 times. The Asian guy, right? Yeah. Is he fat, too? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember that one. Isn't that Rob Schneider doing that? It's not a triangle.

That's a good one. It's a chuckle. But it is. So cool and warm. Towards the middle, they're a little more neutral. right it's that's what that they're not opposites they're a measurement of the same thing just as we conquered time in this podcast okay this is now imagine love and hate courage and fear okay every single action you have is that every single thought you have you can tune to more positive

or more negative, and it's defined by your intent. The more positive, purpose-guided you have, this is where money becomes gods. Money's not yours anymore. Because I'm stacking infinitely positive for the world, at least with intent, trying to help the world as much as possible, God will give me all the money I need as I need it

and I just keep going likewise you can do so negatively okay so all of it can be transmuted those suicidal thoughts they can be turned if you choose to snap your thoughts to a more positive

it doesn't mean you ignore it it means you have to face it you have to look at what it is that's causing you and come to forgiveness with it. It's tough. I'm not telling you this shit's easy. I'm telling you this is, this stuff has sent me to the ends of the world. That's how uneasy it is. Okay. It's sent me to the ends of the world to learn. Why is there this much suffering? I've seen it. I've seen how much suffering. I've been firsthand in all these places. I've experienced it myself too. You know, like I might be this, people see me, perceive me on the

as this guy who's fearless but the most important lesson I talk about in my book which I want to get out as an e-book soon it's just like such content and bullshit is that it's not that I'm fearless it's that in the face of fear I choose to fear less they're both the same word is that a Jay-Z bar that sounds like maybe I'm not a businessman I'm a business man I'm a business me j-z you know you need a ghostwriter so but that's everyone has that yeah you know when you go to talk to the girl when you want to start the business it's the people that conquer it that win yes face it so with all those thoughts you just need to turn them positive and it's a it's a constant search by the way there's no

final answer it's like an infinite journey there's so much more to learn right so most people are gonna stop learning at 21 22 as soon as they're done university you know that's so sad oh my god I'm fucking 28 now yeah I don't even have six years on you 22 man I have like 80 right you know you get me like yes so you need to work that and it's also a net benefit society if you choose to make it so right the the goal should never be I talk to a lot of creators and and many of the creators it's like okay what's your purpose they don't know they don't have a purpose it's like I need to be the biggest creator with the most views how about your

purposes the greatest karmic impact it's completely different ballgame you're still thinking about views there's people that are playing this game that are thinking about how I can the world. Why is Elon Musk where Elon Musk is at? Because he's trying to save humanity in five different ways. You know? But that's the thing too. The guy who's trying to save humanity has the potential because everything has a scale. Has a scale. Has a potential to be the complete opposite if he wants to. Yes. I see. I see exactly what you're saying. It's a great point. Right. So. What did your ancestors really do all day? Beyond names, what were their lives like? With Ancestry's global historical records, you can discover

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what the fuck does this guy know and then there's going to be a lot of people like that just completely changed my life and blew my mind and i'm obviously lean in towards the ladder for myself it's like when you are going day by day knowing these kind of like universal laws you have in your head whatever principles whatever you want to call them you still have some days where you wake up with less energy than the other or some days where you wake up every day right on not the right side every day is a lifetime it's a lifetime every day is a lifetime stop looking at every day going for Friday when's Friday so I can go drink with my boys don't do that anymore

today's Friday. Today's Sunday. Today's Friday for me, bro. Every day's Friday. Every day can be any day you want. Like even that week thing is bullshit. Like what's a year? The sun. How fast we go around the sun. Great. Now everyone makes their lives about the year. You know, you got to pay taxes every year. You got to do this. Every year I have two weeks off. How about you have 52 weeks off? you get me yes like you can have it all you can have it all all all of it how do you handle the days though inevitably whether you treat every day like friday or not but the days where on that scale of perspective maybe it trends in the wrong direction a little bit meaning the you know the happens yeah the glass is a little half empty today rather than half full we're all sinners sinning isn't like you're going to hell it's okay yeah some days on the journey you're choosing not the best opportunity happens do you have a forgive yourself improve do you have a process where you get conscious of that maybe at the end of the day you think about it oh how do I do

today something like that um I wake up and I I start the day with a I try to use my first 10 to 20 minutes in bed, you know, while I'm tired to go into a meditation rather than getting out of bed and wasting that time. First thing I'll do is I'll ask God to guide me because every day is a lifetime. Really important. Okay.

And the more aware you become, okay, because the game is awareness. Anyone watching the entire point of this podcast is a more awareness that you know, nothing. Me too. I know nothing, by the way. I'm not telling you this in like a, like I'm your teacher, brother. No, I'm just trying to spread what I've learned. Point is, the more where you become, the stronger the temptation. Yeah, like staying up here means there's more resistance here as well. Yes. Right? Like, oh, you know, I've been up here for two weeks.

it's coming yeah let's go see you know right yeah it's coming yeah there's a city in Atlanta called coming so that's next to me

CUM or yeah CUM at my so unfortunate shout out to coming Atlanta yeah shout out to coming pause

well I think you also because you get exposed to so many cultures and you get to travel to places and see, you know, go from one thing to the opposite thing or, you know, one thing to another scale of something, you inevitably, literally due to the language barrier, have to interpret things on people presently and physically with them that the rest of us don't, you know, when I'm talking English with you, I'm taking for granted

the fact that we can exchange words and I can interpret those words, but you have to interpret not just emotions which is more the physical level but you have to interpret like kind of the spiritual intentions of people and I get that vibe that's a really good in a lot of things you're saying it's a really good to analyzation that's important yeah that's how I've survived it's not by me it's by the grace of God it's the power of discernment that he's given me to be able to see when someone is malintented and you also are a product of the people you surround yourself with and so i don't allow people like that into my circles define people like that just people that are malintented period yes or is there even a

higher level to that that's like if you're not doing this thing then i can't have you oh yeah growing is important everyone's got to grow anyone who's working with me has to grow um at least on like a you know a core team or or very closely to me it's got to people that are growing that are constantly seeking or creating in the world. It's just the idea of time moving differently for everyone. You know, I don't want to waste my mind share with people who aren't, like even the people I know who are, let's say, less productive on a materialistic scale. I make sure there's always like a spiritual win out of it or something.

And it's not bad, right, that you're using these people for these things. You're also providing, you know, you're also here in bringing light into this, into this room in many ways, whether it be, you know, taking care of them this way or that way or that way or teaching them something or guiding them. So it's a win-win. The idea is that you don't want to waste that mind share. Even times, the thing is sometimes you're a mentor. Sometimes you're a student. And sometimes you're just a peer. So there's three different. things that you can be in life in the rooms that you're in student mentor appear yes so to some people i mentor them to some people i'm a student you know i go and i learn from from greater people or i i spend time with them and in return give them something in exchange it's all a barter system it's all god's money i would argue actually i've never thought of it that way but just thinking about this live maybe this is a little bit biased towards what i'm I do, but I think you almost, at least in my job,

have to be an aspect of all three in different, and varying ratios. You are at one time. Right now in front of you, we are both all three to each other. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I'm sitting here,

I learned so much just being here. Just how many different tech problems you've been through by seeing all your gear? Fucking crazy. We're in the middle of it. Yeah, I mean, this is beautiful to see because podcasting is such an amazing medium. It's very cool.

How many people? podcasts are being recorded right now. Too many. Too many. Too many for sure. Yeah. Yeah. What do you, you know, there's, it's very clear that there is a before and after in your life. And I don't want to oversimplify it, but there's before this and after this perspective wise, because that, that made you have to get in touch with what you had experience and how you could respond to that later. but before before any of that happened you you had a long career even just online you know you came up gaming and everything through fortnight and streaming and more doing that kind of content and then eventually somewhere along the way long before this couple years before this you said no I got to go

out I got to go see places I got to go capture things on the ground I got to go to dangerous places what in you made you long to do that what was going on in your life that you're like no no i'm i'm going to completely switch this up and do this now i like to stand out in content or anything i do in life really it needs to be different okay there's so many people who have access to a phone or camera or whatever that they're all the same they see a piece of content they replicate they follow a trend and so there was a point in the uh career of my, where I switched from IRL streaming,

from gaming to IRL streaming, and then I really wanted, even in Fortnite I stood out, I played the one play style that would just win. Just win. Yeah, it was High Ground. Have you played Fortnite? I have not, but I know what that means. Fortnite's been out for seven years, eight years.

At least, yeah. And 100% of tournaments have been won by... High Ground. Wow, you're so smart. Yeah. How the fuck did you figure out the game that fast? Yeah, I've got enough military guys Talked about high ground.

That's crazy. There you go, right? So it's the same. Yeah. So it's literally the same. And the other 97 people in the lobby that weren't on my team were playing the low ground. They were playing a different game.

So even in, from IRL streaming, I went into YouTube because I, the IRL streaming, it wasn't like it required so much. It was such a lack of freedom. Okay, like the stuff that these big guys do these big ass streamers that are live 18 hours a day bro you don't have a life

different world it's a completely different world yep you're fucking live all the time so much scrutiny you don't get to actually do the things that you want to elevate you as a human you're just stacking more cash you're kind of like I mean to me looking at it from the outside

you are and then even maybe more I don't know what the word is but you're like the fish in the aquarium and people just kind of got their finger on the glass at you yeah which is like there's nothing wrong with it that's just not what i wanted so then i looked at youtube and i was like what's working here and there's just people going to like some dangerous streets and they would never actually go in they would just like walk the street and people would yell at them and they'd

farm the interaction yeah i'm like let me go in i understand culture i have a lebanese background so i understand how the family home kind of works how to how to chat with parents or whatever and the way to the top is through the parents and the children so when you play with the kids in the favela football and you're giving them cash and you're making them laugh and the leader sees you this guy's good this guy's cool i'm gonna bring him with me right you know he's not just here to get a story he's capturing the culture yes so first video i did i was like like what's the most dangerous place south africa fuck it booked a flight to south africa went to all the hoods in south africa and then it just blew up what was that like going to the

hoods and what are they even like because there's also a lot of other things going on in south africa yeah fucked up you're very fucked up it was my first time in like these kind of areas fucked up i mean it it's more that you're white you know to them you're white yeah yeah comparatively yeah so you're gold like they see money so that's also why all these scriptures and stories and the scriptures are not about the past they're about now yes they're applicable all the timelines live right now yeah and i don't mean like oh think about 2000 bc i mean no i mean in afghanistan six hours that way okay there's people with no internet that are living this exact life. Yes. That is mentioned in the Bible. Okay. There is in South Africa right now these people

who are still living in the 1700s, you know, and who think gold is a white man. That's also what they did to me in Haiti. They call me Blanc. Blanc means white in French. They speak Creole, which is French. Blonde. Yeah. My name was Blonde to them. So that's what they did to me. And they literally saw you as dollar cents. that's right now yeah so that's not in the 1500s that's not in 2025 that's not in 200 bc that's right now and that all exists infinitely scaling from rich to poor from heaven to hell which is in internal state because these people they're still thinking in that scarcity in order to get money which exists infinitely in the world i must hurt somebody

I must take it from somebody else rather than understanding they can help people and create it and create it. Yes. Yes. You know, I had a guy in here Ben Lamb. He's worth like $4 billion. He's spun up and built and sold

like six, seven companies. And right now he's in charge of colossal, which is the company that recreated the dire wolf. What's the dire wolf? Oh, you haven't seen this? No. So the dire wolf is like an ancient wolf that went extinct. It was popularized then in Game of Thrones. So they created

like a genetically modified, using like CRISPR technology, a genetically modified gray wolf that has characteristics of a dire wolf. And their goal is to bring back the woolly mammoth. Like they're trying to create like Jurassic Park. They're playing God. Yeah. I write about this in my book. This specific phenomenon. It's we should talk about that in a minute. Before I get there though, because like we like Ben and I love Ben's intentions with things but something like this could get out of control if you do start playing God and you know stuff like that but one of the things he said because we had Matt James here with him who's their head he's their chief animal officer so he's a lifelong working with elephants and and all kinds of species but one of the

things that Ben said is when he first talked with Matt and was trying to get him on board Matt said to him Like, you know, we're really trying to save elephants Here's the problem with the species Here's the things that are killing them The percentages that are dying You know, what all the problems We have to actually like try to solve

And Ben said, how much money do you need? Like what would make a huge difference Right now if you had a blank check What would make a huge difference And Matt goes Shit we need like $50 million And I'll never forget it Ben's sitting there and he goes

I just looked at Matt and I said, you need $50 million? He's like, yeah, yeah, that would make a huge difference on how we're going to get. He's like, well, not to be like arrogant here, but let's go find and create $50 million then. He's like, I've done this before. You know what I mean? It wasn't like a, whoa, we got to look at this challenge of like, how do we raise the money to 50? He's like, I'll just go make $50 million somewhere and bang. Exactly.

And that's what he did. And so, I mean, there's. In this specific instance, are you asking for my opinion? Please, yeah, yeah, about creating the dire wolf. Each person has their reason. It's not for me to judge. So I have no idea. You know, I couldn't tell you that one thing is right or wrong.

I can only treat you accordingly, right? Mm-hmm. Like, I can't come in and tell you. I don't know what your intentions are. I don't know what life you've lived to have this thought. Maybe it's the next thought. I'm not here to tell you. Like, me specifically as well.

I've made the last the biggest part of my career off of not telling people they're right or wrong like literally going and sitting with a hitman of the cartel just to understand how do you get paid why do you do this how is your life as a kid are you judging him while you're doing that no no not at all there's always the like the thought of like you know excitement or or or or of like, oh, shit. But it's not like you're a bad person. He might be a bad person, objectively or whatever. But I'm not there to do that.

I came across the scripture that has changed my life. And it says, this is in the Gospels. It says, you notice the speck in your neighbor's eye, but you fail to notice the log in your own the log in your own yeah wait I don't know what that means as in they have one thing wrong with them that you notice but you have a billion

oh yeah that you're too worried thinking about other people glass houses yeah instead of working on yourself that's right and so since then I've actively tried and it's pretty good I think it's completely almost there you know to not judge people

at all either you know like you might have a thought but if it's any form of judgment thought just erase it yeah just erase it there's so many better things we could talk about than what this guy did 45 minutes ago or this guy i'm not living in the past there's shit to create let's go create 50 million dollars i think i think what you're talking about also is you end up ruminating and adding to the negative that could be put out there, right? Like, you go look at X, you go look, any social platform. I barely use X. They just, it's people, they have to give their opinion on another person.

Too much. So much. So much. Like, I'm like, okay, I could go viral on X or I could look like my account is, you know, not super active. I could easily go viral by going and farming the content that all the other people in my niche are farming right now, which is like migrant anger or whatever but then how long is that how many years of my life am I going to waste if every day I'm doing that for six months

that's six months I could have done something way better for the world than farm whatever this hot trend is right now to stay relevant on this platform I got other shit to do it's also going to slowly change your own mentality yes it's going to fuck me up yep

instead of going and seeing this you know this random person in the street as another human that I can you know get spread light to

I'm seeing him as another motherfucker who's fucking up my country or my whatever no I can go and I can go and do better

across the world you know just for my own my own piece you know this isn't just a view game this is a real life

yeah most creators are still playing a view game this is like this is real life you sit and you sit

And you talk to people that have real life done the crazy shit. That's what I do. Like, you ever feel like a guest on your podcast is bullshitting? Yes. How often? I sit with people for at least three hours at a time. Sometimes when someone's telling a story, they've gone for six or seven. I let them go and I just make it two episodes.

I think every person probably on this earth has a flaw to at some point they talk long enough. it's not even intentional there's something in there that will be bullshitting and i'm not above it either i do it myself but as far as like being majorly full of shit and bullshitting yeah that's happened a handful of times yeah absolutely it's a very strange thing when you're sitting across from it do you ever like call them out yes so you haven't caught on him yet i don't i don't there was one time where i i knew i hadn't vetted the guy before i invited him on and then like the day before he was coming here i did and i realized it was not a fit but we i felt bad so we still did it and so i went into it ready to do that oh yeah and pierce morgan style actually there were aspects of it that were

like that yeah and that's not my lane that's not what it's not it's not fun uh it's not it's not my lane it's not what i do and it doesn't mean that i wasn't really disappointed at the way they went about you know presenting some of their data yeah i'm still disappointed in that to their debt to this day but now would i handle that differently absolutely and do i think that there would be an aspect of what they're saying that whether it's intentional or not is up to them to know but an aspect of what they're saying that is totally bullshitting yeah i i just think i think people can pick up on that i think you know the law of averages across the population you're never going to sell 100% of people one way or the other but you know the weights are going to move in the right

direction people people are smart yeah it's it's a it's a you that's the other thing about this though i get along with people that's why i do this job yeah right same so i'm sure you run into a totally different facet of this but my buddy paul rosalie was telling me the issue especially with long form podcasts is let's say you do have someone coming in who's really talking about something controversial you know not one like this it's like fun talking about different things around the world you know but someone who's got a hardcore opinion yeah yeah right and you know maybe they're not even bad intentioned but they're just an idiot or they're totally in the wrong and you know then they get in here and they're a real person

you talk with them before camera you get on camera it's a pure conversation the way i do it you're talking with them for three hours they act like a real person they they give you the little idioms and expressions that make you build rapport and you want to agree with them you want to be like wow yeah maybe you know what this guy's good he's all right yeah he's really on to some to the point that you can suspend your ability to actually evaluate the merits of what they're saying and they may get points across that really have no business getting across not to say you should sit here and attack them for it or say fuck you that's bullshit but you know maybe actually be a little bit more critical in your questioning of it than than you would be and that is a trap that

I'm sure I've fallen into it before. That's also just part of the part of the game. Like you're interested at the same time. Yes. You know, so there's a part of the game there of extraction of knowledge that requires you sometimes to not do that.

Right? Like, I'm just going to let this guy spew what he wants. Like when I'm with the T-Bros in Afghanistan. The T-bros? Yeah. Oh, oh, the T. Oh, yeah. Please tell people what that is.

The T-brose. are the Taliban. I lived with them for a week. Very interesting. Very. It was a super cool week. And by the grace of God, I used all the right words to

go very high up in a week. I'd say further than anybody has ever gone in recorded history slash content history. How did you even get in there?

You shoot them an email like, Hey, hey, bros, I'm pulling up. God sends me. God sends me. God sends me. I go day by day. Lord Miles was supposed to be my plug. But then, that was for six months. It was planned.

And we're going to upload in December because that's the most revenue on YouTube ad sense. So I need to my big series on December. And Lord Miles, six days before, canceles on me. He said, I had a big sponsor. I got to do blah, blah, blah. I'm like, that's cool.

The same day, I've never gotten a reel of Afghanistan. in my life. The same day I get a fucking reel of this guy from San Francisco who's Afghan and he's hanging out with the Taliban with an AK in his hand in Afghanistan and his name's Poco Loco. Sounds like a real straight

shooter. I'm like God just sent me this motherfucker. Now and because of that I knew the trip would be the greatest it could be. I'm like this like instead of stressing it was like okay God put this here for a reason but I chose to see that

poco loco i chose to see what god put in front of me okay no i'm i'm really good at seeing it now but everybody listening you can also see it you just have to actively believe it for a few weeks slash months and seek it okay and i'm telling you it happens to me bro through Instagram reels through so many you know oh that's just the fucking algorithm yeah you think that so keep thinking that but I'm gonna choose to see when God sends me signs

so when someone goes and hits their algorithm I'm not even talking about a doom scroller right like just play with me on this right they go into Instagram and they scroll like this right video watch it maybe double tap like

video watch it double type like I feel like when I'm picturing you do this you pick up your phone and you're like hmm who is this guy yeah exactly oh wow 20 followers exactly that's kind that's kind of how it goes yeah right you're like you're open if it's 20 followers that's good for me your gloves all nobody else He's even gotten here. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's how that works. So you hit up Pocococco like that. What'd you say? I'm trying to go to Taliban, bro. He'd seen some of my stuff. He's like, yeah, bro, I get you. He had just launched, listen how the world works. He had just launched a tour company to Afghanistan.

Come on. That month. So for him, this is a big break. Yeah. I'm about to get millions of views with this guy and promote the tour company. And we're going to film the sickest series by two American travelers. Wow. sign me up he was in Dubai five days later we flew together to Kabul now what the best seven days

probably some of the best seven days in my life I can't even explain to you how beautiful the trip that was this is towards the end of last year right 24 yeah okay so what happens when you get on the ground do you did he have the plug to call up you're like obviously I want to go to the guys couple second cousins right you know You're from an area, you know the area. Yeah. You know, you know the guys that run shit. So we get in, and then it's all about earning respect.

You can't challenge them day one. Why would I challenge them day one? I got seven days. What'd you do when you walked in? What was the first room you walked into? What was it like? I don't remember getting off. I remember the car.

I remember when I started the cameras. Started the camera in the car is like fucking four guys next to me. Two of them in the front with guns. driving through talking other Taliban in the streets a six year old girl cleans the window in the middle of the highway you know like out a red light

and then you know she's not wrapped up and then you're seeing some women in the streets but mainly men and then you're starting to learn the language you want to get a baseline of like how to call people

how to whatever so you spend the car ride really excited learning. You know, that's really important if you want to climb. And then I asked if we could get in the local attire so I blend in. I grew my beard for that. Oh, you did? Yeah. Yeah, I grew my beard so I could blend in with them because I figured that would get me the best content, the furthest. And the idea is just to extract as much humanity as you can. And in doing so, you'll capture all the other extra cool content that you want. It'll just happen. That's how I see it. It's not like you have to force a clip farm.

You definitely have to create it. Like, hey, guys, are we doing something later? Yeah, don't worry. We're having lunch with a bunch of generals. Like, whoa. Like, first night fucking ten dudes come in with guns, and they're sitting there talking to their guest, trying to convert me to Islam off the bat.

Oh, they did? How'd that go? Good. I have the words to, God gives me the words that I need to say in the moment. You know, I'm really good at. Yeah. I can, you know, and I speak many languages, so I can, yeah, yeah, you feel, you get a maneuvering. Yeah, I maneuver.

So they know you're ultimately not converting, but for some reason you make them okay with it. Well, not really. It's not like that because it's always an open conversation. It's never a debate. Are you asking them questions then? Like, why should I convert? I'm learning. Yeah.

Every interaction is learning how they communicate, new things. things about Islam from their perspective, right? Because remember, there's, just like Christianity, there's no one type of Islam. Sure, you got Dubai, you got Saudi, you got Afghanistan, you know, you got Pakistan. These are all different cultures, for sure, right? So you sit there and you learn.

They teach you a few things off the bat. They say, you know what Taliban means? I'm like, well, they're like, it means student. Yeah, they're like, Talib. I'm like, oh, Talib is like someone who's Matlub, which means someone who's called upon. So like a wanted person in Lebanon in Arabic is called Matlub. Matlub is like a plural, is a different form of Talib.

Okay, Talib means student, so they taught me that off the bat. It's like someone who's called upon. I'm like, oh, cool, there's kind of a, you know, a translation here that we can use at some point. Oh, you're a student. This means you're willing to learn. You get me? You turn it on them. if I have a different view, you're a student.

You're willing to learn, right? Tell me why I'm wrong. So any point, that's almost like a grenade. Yes, you're a tholip. Student, you know, please don't kill me for saying the wrong thing. So, because you don't know, you only know what you've seen on the Western media too, but you also know they're human and you know that God's got your back always. So it's an interesting, you know.

So instead of looking at them as the guys who harbored the al-Qaeda terrorists and don't let women wear anything if it's not covering them all the way their eyeballs or, you know, go and pressure neighborhoods and kill people who don't fall under their thumb, instead of looking at it that way, you tried to understand why they had the beliefs they did outside the context of how the West presents it. Exactly. could you see how that could be dangerous yes could you see how that could be peaceful could you see how that could harbor with a six-hour series on YouTube people seeing that maybe we shouldn't bomb people maybe we should just talk to each other yeah so both ways depends how you want to perceive it it's that scale again it's that scale yeah for me the intention is peace it's peace everywhere it's peace by being a peacemaker you ever see the show homeland you know if somebody's like kidnapped let's say like a regular american tourist is kidnapped in afghanistan like worst case

i can probably go talk them out you think you could talk them out for yeah four people i could yeah i think so i think i could out of any because here's the thing i'm not worried about going to jail anywhere i have god with me at all times i know it sounds crazy but like i got kidnapped for two and a half weeks right what did i do in those two and a half weeks i worked out and i learned i ask god to teach me whatever it is i'm here to learn i'm teach me right i don't want to understand highly dangerous situation sure sure yeah hostage negotiation going on sure you're a prisoner but it it was a i'm not coming out a better person it was a i mean i'm not coming out a worse person but it was a little bit of a different context than like you know a third

world prison i get you it could have gotten to that but here's the thing it's all about perspective so if i get thrown in a third world prison i know god has thrown me there for something some sort of some sort of person i'm supposed to ignite a light in that's in there that's in there that's suffering that has done enough evil in the world and wants repentance and wants to be taught the way to do that. You get me? Yes. I'm at a different perspective there, okay?

Because I know I'm not doing wrong in the world. I know that my intent is positively intended. And it says in the scriptures, it says you'll be in front of courtrooms. I mean, this is not exact scripture, but this is the concept that it says. It says you'll be put against, you know, courtrooms in different societies and I will give you all the gifts you need to get out of it. You know? The story of Jonah in the Bible, you know, where he gets swallowed by a will? That was because he was going to Nineveh, which is one of the most criminal places recorded in the Bible at that time.

And he didn't want to go. And so God taught him another lesson and said, you're still going to go, bitch. You get me? Yeah. So if you're ever thrown in those situations, you still have to make them positive. Every struggle, no matter what, like there could be five people trying to beat the shit at it. You still got to figure out how to make it positive. You still got to talk. bro it's not like i'm going just to this situation just on a youtube video i'm in these situations every day all the time god puts me on the path of other people and the same way he puts them on the path to teach me something right like there's always something to learn what not to do what to

do always every moment all 100% of moments from the moment you wake up to the moment you finish If I play a video game, yeah, you could say it's wasting time. That's a perspective. But the other perspective is I'm playing a chess match right now. I have to learn a way to outsmart someone and pre-predict their movements in order to win a larger match 25 minutes from now, which in turn gives me short-term thinking chess skills that are going to allow me to stack up a longer decades-long chess match, right? I'm not playing a game to waste time. I'm playing this game to Victory Royale, brother. What do you think I'm here for?

I'm here for the Snapchat that I won the game. That's how I made this career, brother. That's going to get me all the bitches, bro, you know? Where did you grow up? Atlanta, Georgia. And then I spent my summers in Lebanon. Interesting. So were your parents originally from Lebanon and they came here?

Yeah. Okay. Damn immigrants. It's your first generation American. I'm the kind of people that are ruined in the country. Put the wall up. What was Lebanon like as a kid in the summer? It gives you good perspective.

Lebanon's the most beautiful country in the world in the summer. I've heard it's incredible. Yeah. No one will ever come to Lebanon and say that it was a bad country for them. Yeah. Because the people have a crazy empathy and it's also grounded in God. It's the only middle, I mean, it's not the only Middle Eastern country. Many have, except all religions.

But Lebanon, they're very well intertwined, three different religions. Muslims, Christians, and Druze. Yes, DR, UCE. Yeah. Yeah. So everyone gets along with each other. And then people have all been through crazy suffering in the last like five years, like Beirut explosion, financial collapse, earthquake, COVID, no jobs, bullshit.

So everyone helps each other survive. So, like, you go to a store in Lebanon, you want to buy a water on a hot day. And, like, let's see, you have a $20 bill and the guy has no change. He gives it to you. Just give it to you for free. Yeah. He's like, no, bro. You're not going to leave.

I'm like, no, no, it's okay. He's like, take it. I'm like, whoa. Like, he's forcing me to take the water for free. That would never happen in the West. Never. Everything is, like, a dollar amount. So, you're automatically conditioned.

to believe it's all transaction-based purely off of a number in your fake bank account that you don't even own that they could seize at any time. This is what's crazy, bro. We have this beautiful experiment where people from all different cultures came here and formed this country that now has 350 million people. And so we have an understanding, especially like being from New Jersey, I know you can feel the same way being from Atlanta. places like that you have such an understanding of a million different types of places that have

now come here into America and yet somewhere along the way we became a culture that put fences up around our houses right the community in so many places stop being in community it started being I'm going to worry about the people under my roof and you know that's the hardest part about America it's very difficult it's that and the food the food yeah the food is like imagine that infinite stack. Imagine that with GMO with pesticide. Oh, yes. Right.

Over time, the soil. Of course. Okay. The food outside the U.S., it's the biggest reason I don't spend much time in the U.S. The food. Every year I probably spend

about five to six weeks in the U.S. total. Okay, I come in and out just to see my family and then I'm out. Yeah. Maybe seven max. But that's because of the food. And the water, too.

I mean, you can always buy bottles. Yeah, but even that. Like, I've read some stuff on that. Even that's got some stuff in it sometimes, too. Yeah, the thing is... I don't know less about that. I help me in the comments. There's also a lesson...

I mean, obviously, do your due diligence to take care of yourself. But if you drink the water with faith that you'll be okay, I know that sounds crazy. But, like, you'll be fine, bro. Like, don't worry. It's water. You need to survive. Purpose-based is really important. Okay, I'm telling you.

When your purpose is a higher purpose, nothing is yours anymore. But because of it, you can operate out of such minimalistic abundance. Does that make sense? Run that one back for me. Okay. So what's the purpose that you do this podcast? I get to talk with people. I'm interested from around the world and understand their perspectives.

Have you ever thought about the impact your podcast has? 50,000 or 100,000 or 300,000 views on somebody educating someone? the thoughts i don't have a lot of time as much as i should to think about those things but the thoughts of some podcasts in particular yes that has definitely dawned on me purpose is super important because purpose also gives you a crazy confidence okay that if you have a higher purpose Every challenge will be conquered. So, even shitty water, and I had this talk with a guru in Nepal, he's looking at me, there's 10, 20 burning bodies in front of me. It's an open crematorium.

Oh, okay. And we're sitting, we're over it. This is a video I did. And I'm asking him, I'm like, what, like, can you swim in this? He's like, swimming in this water is interesting. Because anybody can swim in this water if you have the faith to swim in this water. And like all the comments were like, this guy's crazy, this guy's cuckoo, like it's dirty-ass sewage water. But if you take the time to dissect it and you actually practice extreme, you know, faith, you learn that anything, okay, anything will be taken care of, anything and everything.

So even like shitty water, okay, if you have to drink it, let's say you're stuck in the middle of the Congo, okay, seven days you've had no water. And the only river source you find is some sort of river that they say online has this blah, blah, blah, bacteria and you drink out of it, you'll be fine. But it all comes down to belief. The belief is really important. You think that that can discount everything? Yes. So why do you only spend five to six weeks a year? in America because of the food because I have the choice okay and I know that my body is the

temple okay so I get you I get your idea you're not going to believe the glyphosate away essentially I I still come back because I mean America is a beautiful place but two that is poison okay the food literally becomes poison right um when i come i fast a lot too okay i do i fast a lot in the u.s um you ever done a three day fast yes i did one three months ago very powerful my first ever three day fast was when i was kidnapped oh yeah um a little bit higher higher stress circumstances but yeah your question is great though because i get it i get the question it's not about like putting yourself in the situation it's more like if you need it in this situation yeah you get me like you still got to do

the things to avoid but in the scenario you're going to be okay right like don't throw yourself in hell which is interesting for me to say in some ways it's like all right you're not going to be doing this into perpetuity so you're going to be fine doing something in the moment i got you exactly i think i agree with that too i think i think you can i think the the older i get the more i realize how dumb i was to assume that the human mind is not the most powerful indicator of everything that you do down to your literal physical health right i used to think some of that stuff is was like a little overblown like you can't manifest something away or something like that and yes sometimes people will run with things that i i think are beyond what capabilities are but the idea that those two

things are not heavily intertwined it is wrong they definitely are uh they they are and they are and they're yin and yang the spiritual effects the physical and it's uh i'm gonna give you a a cool story that happened to me a few days ago my car spun out in the middle of the highway i was on the way from toronto to cleveland uh five days ago six days ago i rented a beater with my cousin and it's like we're just gonna talk about god and drive a short distance like we're not trying to whatever we're gonna go slow yeah 11 p.m at night we're almost there Tire blows out, spins from the right four lanes of the highway over the grass median into the other four lanes of the highway.

And this highway was like both going the same ways, not opposite direction. So we spun out from over the grass and then onto here. And now we're in the middle two lanes and there's only left and right. And I look and there's a car coming around the turn that's like a couple hundred meters that way, maybe 150, 200 meters, 300 meters. I don't know the distance, but it was a... I could see the car. I'm like, okay, fuck.

Now we're in the middle of the highway. The car's not turning on. I get out the car and I run towards the cars and the trucks. I'm kind of standing on the edge just in case they're going to maw me, but I'm trying to signal them. Hey, please stop. Please stop. My cousin's in the driver's seat. Like, we don't want our shit to get fucked up.

We don't want, it's a big wreck. Like, better to stop it. And we literally stopped the whole highway. That was like Moses parting the Red Sea to me, bro. What do you mean, bro? I just, like, spun out. I'm like, okay, it's just two guys in the car. There's no women, so there's no panic.

Let's fix this situation, you know? You get out and you book it and you stop it. And you're like, after it's done, you're like, oh, my God. That was cool. He's like Kanye at Lollapalooza saying, hey, yo, watch this. I'm like, that was cool. And it's. Like, that was God.

That was God teaching me, hey, next time, just be more abundant. Like, okay, you rented a beater. You know, you were obviously having a safe, you know, a fun drive. But don't worry about saving 300 bucks even for a five-hour trip. Like, just rent something serious. It'll all come back to you. Like, you don't need to fucking save here.

You don't need to whatever. Just keep doing your thing. Do it properly. Don't get yourself into these little. it's a constant test bro life every day is a lifetime so even as i preach these things to you it doesn't mean i don't fight them every day right i'm not sitting to you here like i'm some sort of perfect being no i'm here with a message that i've learned that there is a path ahead of you for you to become more aware of so many different things around you and it all starts with

admitting that you know nothing like literally all the shit that you've been taught your whole life. It's, it's all just somebody else's perception. So you're open to, for example, a lot of the, and I actually think you've said a lot of things here today that make a lot of sense and I think you're probably right about. But what you're saying is that you will operate with the assumption that even things that you've stated today is fact about your perceptions of the world could change with better evidence. All the time. All the time. and they change and they they grow i'm a completely different person than i was a year yes that's a good thing not a bad thing depending on the context but sure sure somebody could

definitely yes go into a worse scenario but yes change is good change is really good where much of society actually stops as they box themselves into a few labels and they say i'm this yeah okay what does islam mean like the actual word yeah i don't remember is it peace islam means uh submission taslim halak means to submit yourself so by definition of the actual word if you were to ask me if i'm a muslim i could tell you yes because my perception of what you're asking is yes i submit to god but i was raised christian i'm wearing jesus on my shirt yeah right this is for me the greatest teacher that's taught me but i could tell you i'm a Muslim but then if you tell me to say the the whole conversion line which is like la il la ilal allah allah mohammed rs like that part the first part says

there's nobody but god the second part says that mohammed is the last prophet i can agree with the first part. I can't agree with the last part. Because I believe prophets and messengers are among us right now all the time. So he can't be the last. He can't be the last. Yeah. Exactly. Because by putting him as the last, you've automatically cemented yourself in 600 time period. Yes. Buddy, you're living 1,600 years ago. So you think profits are all among us right now. How do you define a profit? I know that prophets and messengers will come across your journey once you choose to start believing that they will. And it'll come from the random people that you see in the streets. These are angels.

Each human is an angel of God. It's a son of God. You're a son of God. You're a son of God. I'm a son of God. We're children of the Lord, right? So each person will come and tell you along your path once you start living in the moment. things they'll guide you you'll get guidance from different aspects of life from all aspects of life

god is in all things so in terms of messengers and such that's how they'll come and it says in the scriptures that you have to talk to other people to receive the answers it says that that's why confession catholic confession is to another priest you have to humble yourself in front of the lord who is in all things. So when you're, when you can go and communicate with these people, they'll teach you, it could be the homeless person that teaches you. It could be the billionaire that teaches you. You know, that question that you have in your mind,

that you're asking God for assistance with, he's actually giving you the answer. You're just not seeing it. You know, and he'll give it to you over and over until you see it. And whatever you ask, anything you ask will be answered. Anything. when did you start thinking about god how how young were you when you thought about it and then young to what point did you actually start to believe in that i was an altar boy growing up you know

those guys that helped the priest and then i went through this like fame twitch period professional gaming and whatnot where i was so focused on work didn't really pray at all just stream we're doing good whatever and then uh once i started traveling 25 24 is when i kind of came back that at 25 26 i think that was like uh the cartel is when i really started coming back to god i went and hung out with the cartel for five days and i just that was the most fear i've ever felt when was that again 24 23 23 yeah okay so this is pre-hatee yeah pre-hatee right before haiti exactly why all things stack up and you just got to trust the path

because if it wasn't for the cartel three months before Haiti I wouldn't have had some of the lessons that I needed to survive Haiti yeah so it was because November to March that area I started reading

scripture again seeking you know answers having God guide me on these trips and actually having like an anchor and it was because of that I survived Haiti so I really like your line of questioning by the way thank you the way you take this all is quite nice dude yeah i mean it's you're making it easy just

because there's so much like you know for people out there listening i'm sure there's like a million directions that i haven't gone today because you introduce like 12 different things but we'll do future podcasts where we can do that because i do have all those questions i just want to let you cook you're welcome to ask me whatever any you know also critical questions you have or anything please feel free to ask i'm totally open i appreciate that so you it seems to me, and I think this is a great thing, that the way that you hypothesize your surroundings and, you know, not to overstate it, but like your meaning of life and get that, is based on just being in the moment learning from experiences, right? So putting yourself into things that

you haven't done before, which is always a form of change, right, with people that are completely different from you, good, bad, in between, not you to judge. whatever it might be. And then based on how you then respond to that yourself, you start to think about, oh, you get like new clues on how things might work or what people might be like. You see what I'm saying? Is that fair to say? Yeah. Yeah. Always learning from all different aspects. And detachment's really important. What's really more? Detachment. Detachment. From the situation. After the fact. It's not personal. No, during the fact. during it. Yes. So how do you detach while staying present? You can be present, but detached

personally. Can you explain that? Yes, as in I'm present and I understand all the threats that might be here or all the different, you know, male egos in this room in the favela. You know, I can see who's having trouble with my presence here. You know, I can tell he's got kind of an evil eye towards me okay that's not personal i'm a guest in his house so i'm going to detach from it and then i'm going to attack him verbally to diffuse the situation attack not aggressively but i'm going to go towards this guy and diffuse his negativity oh got it got it got it so you get it i'm face it i'm detached yes it's not a personal reason that he hates me i'm just a guy in here who might be coming for his crown.

I could be a random favela guy. I could be a spy in his favela. Right. I could be a police. Who knows? To him he's got

a billion threats in his head to keep his empire. I'm a random guy here. You get me? Yeah. So I understand that all these threats are here. It has nothing to do with me.

So then I'm going to diffuse the situation. So that's presence with detachment. Yeah. Detachment's a tough thing. Detachment was forced upon me because I was kidnapped yes I'm like oh I don't need my YouTube channel oh like my

family's setting this up from the outside but it's really just me in here as well I'm the only person who's in here you get me like I'm detached from everything you also had to kind of surrender to the fact that you're not in control of the situation at all exactly that's a level of the detachment exactly you know and let me explain what I mean by this because it's not going to be what it sounds like some of what you're describing sounds in a similar vein as like method acting in a way right and here's here's what i'm cultural chameleon yes but it's like you are aware that there are these things out of your control let's say you're sitting with the cartel guys and there's you know 15 of them in there and it's like well you know if i piss off the

wrong guy who knows what happens here no one ever knows but like you said earlier, instead of being fearless, you just have to fear less, which means you almost have to step outside of the fact that you're physically here in what is objectively a dangerous situation and just start to treat those same people as you would all other people, show deference to the ones that appear to have more power, and in a way put on an air of blissful ignorance aloofness to the sense that they start to realize, you know what, he doesn't look at us like he's worried about the next thing we're going to do. He looks at us like he's just talking with us.

I think he can stay. Exactly. Yeah. So is there a question with that? No. It's an observation. I want to make sure I'm fine. I'm trying to put myself in your head.

Cultural chameleon. Yeah. I wouldn't talk to you the same way I talk to my girl. Baby, I love you. Yeah, don't do that. You know, like, so like be many things to many people. It says that in Corinthians, if I'm not mistaken. Paul is speaking to a whole nation

and he says speak to the Jews like the Jews speak to the Romans like the Romans speak to the Corinthians like the Corinthians right one thing actually that we do so well in the West and it's a bad thing is that we believe that we have to communicate my way

yes it's my way this is the only way of communicating I'm correct freedom um you know what i mean like because freedom of speech is our is our number one thing so like don't silence me i got to do it my way and so what you'll get is this personal attachment to these cultural situations instead of just humbling yourself and learning their way of communication right there is an amazing line in the show homeland i was going to bring this up 20 minutes ago and something else and now you just brought it to something that's just like it again but homeland

is like it was a show about some lady in the CIA who had severe anxiety but it was like a super spy or whatever trying to catch terrorists and so in season four i think it was there was the lead terrorist was an afghani guy named hakani which by the way newman akar who played that guy i put the hat of the hakani guy on they have a cultural hat what's that called what's that called the you know it because of what's his space they dressed me in it right and they gave me history while they're doing it they're like this is the haqqani this is from blah blah blah blah hakani one of the biggest leaders in afghanistan well this guy so i guess they named they probably named him in the show like after someone real or something like that but he was like it was a fictional

character but he had oh that's a big network yeah so he had he was he was when you look him in the context of the show he was blowing up people fighting his war you know he's he's a terrorist that's how he's labeled but he had this line that always stuck with me and I've talked about it before on the podcast because it spoke to something way bigger than

you know a character in a show let alone what the context of that person was and he said America hates what it can't understand yes and I think that is exactly what you're getting at powerful line. We are the West. We know the way. This is how we communicate. This is everything. It's not to say, for example, that I don't think, because I do think this, free speech isn't better than not free speech. I do think that. But if I just go into a place that say doesn't practice free speech or something like that and say, you're bad, you're dumb, we know what we're doing. It's free speech. You should do it this way because of that. How the fuck am I ever going to get them to even open their mind to that kind of thing? Right. Yeah. Just missile them. drone them.

Yeah. Don't attack a wedding. That's right. Free speech. Yeah. Free speech. So we go in, I mean, you've seen that then up close. A lot of these people have an idea of us because the previous people who have come to represent

America come to them and don't understand. That's infinite. Yeah. So imagine how much fear is induced in the minds of tens of millions of Americans. Now imagine how much fear is induced of Americans by blah, blah, blah, blah, or by Jews or by Lebanon, there's so many infinite over thousands of years. You get it?

So there's like so many ways that people perceive the world. And the best way to treat it all, I know it sounds crazy. Like I'm not playing a political game. Wars have always existed, but it's just to treat everyone well. That's really what it comes down to. it's just like different culture it's cool bro you guys should take a boys trip to

afghanistan like think about what that would do for the team team trip you guys should be traveling once every six months as a team or whatever to you know just you and your boys to learn new things probably make your podcast even oh i agree you could people always said like even my family said this when i went into traveling it's like what about your money save it i'm like Well, I have about 18 months of travel saved up right now if I want to keep growing this operation. Let's make it 12. Let's put it all back in.

And worst case, I went to 35 countries this year. And I have $0. Assuming I make $0 along the way. Let's fucking do it. Now we're at 80 countries and we're not at $0. And you said you do this like on whims. You're like, oh, let's go there. It's not like you plan out.

I'm going to go to this country. And then that one. then that one and then the one you go with the vibes just day by day i have a rough idea sometimes yeah like i'll be in this country this month yeah but i'll figure it out as i go i don't like the constraint i got to make my flight at 701 i'll fucking extend my flight if i want the anxiety of time yeah no i'm not doing that i like that yeah i'm not doing what how did you end up what what was the impetus to make you say you know what i want to go live inside the car tell us for a week or whatever like wait was that just a thought one day that one was ego fueled ego fueled

ego fueled ego fueled for sure would it just like to say you did it yeah fucking none of you can do what I do there's it I mean there's always that you know like the the whole journey is the conquering of the ego that one was ego fueled for sure it's like uh it was also god set me it was a cool story what's the story I was scrolling Instagram again With that face. All right. Oh, cartoon. Bro, I don't, the thing is I don't scroll.

Like, I open Instagram two, three minutes max. I move my thumb. Exactly. You're scrolling, I move my thumb. Oh, man. Oh, you're good, bro. That one hurts. Yeah, so.

yeah I don't scroll like I stop myself for the most part so if I'm scrolling for two three minutes and some shit pops up God sent me this bro like maybe you think it's algorithm but that's on you you know like I know this is sent to me why X hitman from the Mexican cartel just gets out of jail turns to a Muslim wants to visit Medina and Mecca okay and now there's an Instagram reel on my timeline with 2,000 views

of him talking about his story when in the world am I ever going to be able to document the cartel with this much safety and access never never again or with even that kind of story never again

never in my life there's only now so I DM him no one's gotten to him I DM him Okay, just this one podcast guy Some random podcast he was speaking on I DMM hop on a call

Yo, let's do this You know it's gonna be dangerous right? Like some shit might happen like we might die Yeah, he's like, are you religious? I was like somewhat but not really He's like After you come out of this trip If you do you're gonna be religious

Oh he said that He said that On camera It's part of episode one Wow yeah so you said let's fucking do it fuck yeah let's fucking do it where'd you go inside of what cartel

I can't say you can't say no I just rather not so we won't say area we won't say which cartel it's just Mexico yeah I mentioned it in the video that went to Michua Khan to interview a hitman in the jungle that was a cool that was a cool day that was one of the coolest days of my life

but also the most fearful so wait before I not because of the hitman because another guy had a hit on us another boss Another boss put a hit on you and him because you were there interviewing him. I'll check. I'll tell you what happened. Yeah, please. Mexican hitman guy that's supposed to take me.

Uh-huh. Does an interview in between when we agreed on this and when we filmed it. Uh-huh. Interview goes out and gets millions of views by Lab Bible. Oh. Now he's famous. And famous, not viral famous, but famous, criminal niche famous. that's police that's criminals that's you get me right curious people so now we're in

Mexico crazy guy who does journalist videos plus famous hitman is in Cancun police are smart enough you know probably to see something like this we are filming with some people they get rated that night. That's part of the risk that comes with these kind of videos. Staying super low key. Yes. You know, um, mitigating a lot of these risks. Usually you want to stay quiet because like, you want to stay quiet, you want to get in

and out quick. Because especially with some of these weaker lines, chains of command, you're in before word can even, you know, because word spreads quick. You can get to the top of a, of a nation and, you're in. a few minutes phone calls I see what you're saying one guy calls his guy

who's high up in the intelligence he calls the president or the leader of the country it takes two phone calls might take a few more in that but yeah sure I see what you're saying

but you get me right yes but it could happen in two in a perfect world not really president especially in a corrupt country president's high up to go you can get there but in a corrupt country it's easier

they got a lot of people on the take in mexico i do a lot of mexico content here that's why i'm thinking about it a lot no i get you i'm not talking about the president of mexico i'm just saying in general okay so even towards a a criminal mob boss even towards a but you get the idea i'm explaining how quickly it can happen to the top yeah now imagine how quickly it can happen to this guy or this that's right that's my point yes right like I'm not saying that they're calling the president for this guy I'm saying that that's how

quickly a chain of command can happen yeah a few minutes so word spreads really quickly now so that's also a really important thing is slithering your way through it's even I mean like even in America my buddy Brandon Buckingham

oh your buddies with Brandon yeah he got sprayed cool he great guy he got sprayed with like I mean They missed, but they hit his producer in the jaw. They got sprayed with like 50, yeah, 50, 60 bullets. He's a, he's Lebanese. He's Lebanese, yeah. We met in Lebanon.

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No shit. How crazy is that? Were you there when he was doing the documentary? No, I hit up some people just in case he needed anything. I was with him on the line. Yeah. You need anything. Please text me.

I appreciate that. I love Brandon. He's cool. He's a great guy. He really does care. but Brandon will put you know just like you like he'll put himself in wild situations but to your point like that you hear that story just that was in Chicago like how quickly that escalated from just sitting around while a couple dudes are playing video games to suddenly like oh shit you know like six people are spraying bullets now think about wait Mustafa I think it was moosepha you got shot yes yeah have you seen this video recently this was this was nine months ago so okay so mostifah's good

Yeah, yeah. No, no. Luckily, he was good. It's the most, people should go watch it. We can't even play it, but it is on YouTube. Like, this video will get demonetized if we play it. That's why we have taboo TV. But he. And guess what? There's other people on there. They let, yeah, you were telling me. Like, that's the idea so that other creators can come on and put the stuff. Check this. They did at least let him put it up, which was good. These two other creators are some of the sickest creators in the world. This guy was train surfing in Bangladesh, Ceylon Tour. He just went naked monkey hunting. in the Amazon. So while we're sitting here recording a podcast, we're sitting here recording a podcast, there's a tribe in the Amazon that's hunting monkeys naked and they have a Starlink and they're watching TikTok women shaking ass. They're corrupted by right now. Right now. So the world is so big and there's so many crazy creators. Okay, Waleed. This guy is, this guy is, this guy just went, right now he's in West Africa. He just went the last two months. He's traveled 35 countries, He's been hitchhiking through black rivers and mountains and whatever.

He's feeding 50 wild hyenas with his mouth. This guy goes to like blue volcanoes. He's been to 150 countries. Summitted Kilimanjaro or some shit. I love this shit. It's crazy, bro. These are the craziest motherfuckers in the world. I love that shit.

That's what we're putting on taboo TV. Very cool. Yeah. Well, they at least, I'll give YouTube this. They let Brandon put the video up and it got pushed in the algorithm too. I assume it was demonetized. but I guess it was Mustafa because he's got a couple guys

but he kept the camera rolling Well, I get a good camera man Bro and then like left it on the dumpster He's like oh shit I'm here Oh my God And like he's like I think I'm good I'm alive And then he leaves

And the camera was still rolling When Brandon was talking with the cops It's an insane insane insane video But it does show you like When you go and you're getting real stories You know it's not like Hey journalist no touching every time like that's not how that works

yeah no no you're in the danger you're in the danger yeah and it's it's fun too so you had this guy didn't did a lad bible interview in between your time within that month yeah and it went fucking nuclear so then he gets a hit put on him

which means you allegedly have a hit on you I don't think he got the hit put on him okay I think the police rated the criminals that were showing us and they thought it was us so then the hit got put on us okay yeah by the criminals

yeah I got you yeah and just I think the police just tracked us this guy was the same guy that you initially saw in the reel who said he yeah yes yes yes he protected he protected me oh he protected me okay so had he converted to Islam yet at that point yeah yeah he was deep he was the deepest he'll probably ever be in his fit maybe he's deeper now you know good for him if he is how did he when you were talking with him how did he level that with what his career had been and perhaps

maybe still was as a hitman? Was he still a hitman at that point? No, no, no, he wasn't a hitman anymore. He was out. He left. Forgiveness, bro. Okay. Forgiveness.

How did he get into it? You got to be willing to forgive yourself and actually be on the path of becoming a higher person, you know, a better person. So you think all the bad, like, you know, carmeic stuff that he built over that time. It can be canceled out. He can restart and cancel it out, even at that level. Yeah. For sure.

For sure. Okay. In a room of darkness, even a single flame will light the room. so that's a really important lesson to know and even the deepest darkness right like that's why it says in the scriptures that jesus went down to hell for three days that's a symbolic uh description of what happens to the majority of great men along their path of becoming great you know some of the greatest saints were some of the greatest sinners before them like they were out doing the craziest shit that's that's the path of a man as well like that curiosity that willingness to break all the

barriers that society puts on you you know the to take care of your bloodline to to to take care of your family to to do well stack well like that's just a man you know you go through all these sufferings by yourself nobody hears about them not even your girl like not even your not even your wife not your parents like it's just you it's the shit that you're going through you know other men go through them you know it's but it's it's a it's on the other end comes out this love this eternal love and forgiveness this power that many men watching might have felt before and i'm sure it's going to resonate with them and that is replicable you're able to summon that at any point many people have different skill sets okay some people are

good at creating 50 million dollars some people are good at bending a room with their words words are magic have you gone into that like that phrase and breaking that down words are magic i mean i agree that if by every word that comes out of your mouth are you saying it's literally magic literally shaped it in a way that you know the way you express things can move people yes both okay both so a word letter by letter called writing or letter by letter in like class when you're in elementary spelling yeah spelling is magic it's a spell you're writing a spell oh yeah see this is like a Kanye bar sure Terrence Howard sure it could be right it definitely could be a Kanye bar yeah but it's right in front of you your whole life and you've never chosen to see it

Your words can move rooms. Your words can make people cry. Negative or positive. I told, I had this chicken sandwich once in Norway. Moldy Norway. The middle of nowhere. Chicken sandwich? The best, dude, I've been all over the world.

I'm a foodie. I love food. I've had the best foods in the world, the worst, whatever. Norway had the best chicken sandwich. Dude, I'm in fucking moldy Norway. This grandma shop. I'm there for five days. Okay.

I had this chicken of a coffee. sandwich. I don't know what this woman made it out of, but it was decades of her making this. I had it for five days. All five days I was there. And then I went and told this lady on my way out. I'm like, let's leave some good vibes. To her, I said, I don't know what you've done with this sandwich. I've been all over the world. I blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But your sandwich is the best sandwich I've ever had in my life by a mile. I've never had anything like it. Whatever you're doing, keep doing it blah blah blah 60 year old like grandma

she started crying tears of joy that probably made her day maybe even her week she's gonna go on then and carry that even more with more love into her food to all these other people that come through her cafe

bro that's infinite stacking I agree you get me yes so that was my words that did that so I know that I can hurt people with my words too. That's what I used to do in streaming, kind of. It was never malintented, but like a guy shit talks,

I'm gonna shit talk him back. You were incentivized to do that. Exactly. Yeah. Right? Like, every minute someone comes in shit talks, I'm gonna smoke them. You know, like I can be ruthless like that. But it was always with like intent to,

maybe even before I knew it. But now that I know it, now that I know how powerful these things can be, you become more specific with them, right? like let's say you grow up a streamer you're always clip farming everything for the clip okay what if you got good enough with your words to clip farm everything but like positive clips what if now all the clips you're putting out into the world are you interacting with people in a positive way yes you know what if all your actions are actually just like that actively trying to become better

and you stack that and then millions of people watch it and then hundreds of millions of people watch shit that's the only reason that i should say that's the main reason this show works yeah because it's like this it's just live let it have people go and make money off of it yeah people learn from it they go to create greater things for the world like podcasting's a a big medium of education as well yeah you don't even need university anymore university is more for the ability to uh build discipline yeah you know but the knowledge is every Everywhere. Everywhere. I have editors in Haiti. I have editors in South Africa. They can learn from their phone. They can clip from their phone. Yeah. You know, and then they can get paid in crypto

to their phone directly. It's amazing. It's a whole new world that we live in. I think university in a perfect world, the ones that are good and do a good job, obviously we have some problems in that system right now. But it teaches you the language. But you have to go experience how to write and how to sing yeah the world is gonna shape you to do that like clearly i mean you're a living example of that like you probably packed like fucking 40 lifetimes into the last six years three years four years specifically you know what i mean yeah but like you learn how to adapt like some of that base understanding you have to then go into a moment receive what you're getting and deal with it yes yeah because there's always going to be a new contender yes a new challenger in front of you a new whatever

whether it be like your brother you know ego battling you or or you're a friend in the street or a stranger or your girl or your mother every every action is a specific choice that you know you have to figure out how to move absolutely it could be 30 seconds it could be five minutes but all of it is a new lifetime. Every single day is a new lifetime. When you start living like that, that doesn't mean forget about your life. It means just make sure you're doing more,

make sure you're learning more today, explore new things. Fill yourself with the skills, okay? Expand your mind to be able to store more. I mean, you're barely using any percent of your brain. Have you thought about that? How about this? How about every prayer?

When you pray, where do you pray? When I pray? Where do you pray? Do you pray at all? I believe there's a God and I believe that I'm going to have to answer to something that created me, which in that case would be God one day. And I very much, very much agree with the way you describe stacking things and doing good. I believe in the karma of life.

So I'm humble in the face of that. And I'm also humble in the face of what I don't know. So I don't ascribe to an organized religion. I'm open-minded on pretty much any ancient text that people want to break down. But I do, if not to sound like meta or, you know, like fucking, you know, woo-woo, but I do talk to the universe, if you will. So if you want to call that praying. That I do call that praying. That's exactly what I mean by praying.

Yeah. And when you do that, where do you do that? Anywhere? No. yes no it's very random i don't have like a set place where i go do it no that's not a wrong answer i'm just telling you think deeper where do you do that in my heart sure yeah the prayer originates from either your heart or your mind i think it's a combination yeah and most people are still looking outwards but yet all the greatest philosophers and thinkers and and and and

Kings have all pointed to one thing, which is look inwards. Yeah. It's physical, too. It's not just, it's not, I, I totally agree. You feel it sometimes. Yeah, I saw. It just gives you this feeling like, okay, do this. I don't know why, but I'm going to do it.

There's something confirming me to do this, to help this person, to do whatever, to post this video, like, something. Yeah, and it's a spectrum. It can be things that are like, oh, the universe is lining that up. This happens all the time. that makes me need to do that it's it's the universe telling me like oh this happened at the same time is that's a lot of positive but like i saw something unexpected yesterday that i didn't like right i didn't expect to see it i just kind of bumped into it and it's something personal and i got a jolt from my heart manifested down my arms and my knees went weak for a

it and this was like that and it was shortly after that way did kind of one of those like talking to the universe things trying to make sense of what I had just seen the reality of it what was in my control what wasn't and I it's just funny you're bringing this up because I was literally going to bed last night thinking about that about how the connection of physical manifestation inward is directly correlated with the way that you meant to understand yourself and make sense of your surroundings and I don't know it was just and this was like almost like a stupid thing but like my heart wanted something and didn't see what it wanted and it just told everything in me down to my actual consciousness hey that that wasn't what you

wanted but it's going to be all right you have to you have to sit in that now yeah because sometimes god is teaching you something yeah no that's definitely patience or a sometimes or whatever it was the same exact thing that happened a month before that as well same situation i was like oh this is like a huge test for me yeah i mean do you care to share it no yeah that's cool yeah that's good keep that one yeah but it's exactly that and just as these guys were bulletproof this warlord okay through demonic entities you can also have have divine forces behind you yes yes except it requires much more humility because you're not feeding the ego you're instead tuning into thoughts given to you by the creator of all things

how do you tune into that you have to learn to fix the radio antenna of your mind to not attach to negative thoughts uh-huh because just as there is this there is this the yin and the yang okay so those thoughts that come in every single day okay they can either be higher purpose or lower purpose thoughts and you get better at tuning them in but then this guy's always trying this guy's always trying to come back in but what are those thoughts how would where would you define them on the scale of time it's going to come full circle for you presence exactly those thoughts are all past or future yes they're not where you are they're not the emptiness of right now and i mean emptiness in a positive light there yes i get you because the game is actually eventually you

the game is to not think it's to be present yeah like i'm not thinking what i'm going to tell you i'm just tear and it comes out of my mouth right like i become a a messenger in a way when i need to now there's other times where i'm out there my ego takes over you know or like i'm gaming with the boys and i'm chatting shit with them or whatever but if i'm out here and i'm doing let's say a podcast like this where we've gone into deep spiritual stuff you'll you'll feel the truth that i'm speaking because I'm tuned in to that anyone can tune into it

you just have to learn it's a long journey yes it's a long journey and it's a lot of knowledge that you got to consume along the way and when you seek it from the universe God sends you it well yeah no I I already totally believed in that but yeah it's just been like I've gotten goosebumps a few times today

just because like you hit me up yesterday that thing happened an hour later totally and then i wasn't thinking about like our podcast today i'm thinking about other things the themes that i was then thinking about you and i don't know each other no i've never talked with you about this stuff before those themes are exactly what you brought up at the outset today and are brought up throughout this whole thing yeah and now we're here doing it and it's like why did that happen we could have done this three months ago when sonny first wanted us to do it that one time yeah i completely forgot about that too i was like oh shit Oh, he texted you too?

Yeah, yeah. He had texted me and I was like, oh shit, we were supposed to do this one. But now it happened now and it's like, yeah, that's wild. Yeah. So that thing from four months ago connected to now. Yeah. You don't me to drop some bars, but this one might lose some. Drop it on me.

Come on. Let's play the piano and get this beat rolling. I lost the power bank four years ago. A power bank? One of my best power banks. Power bank is really important for me. Okay. Okay, really important.

Like, I need it to survive. I'm traveling for seven days. Sometimes I can't charge. If I'm going to film, if I need my phone. I have three power banks that's allowed me to survive everywhere, you know, really productively. I lost it four years ago. So whatever, I buy a new one. I lost it at my friend's house who's in New Jersey.

And I was meeting him yesterday. And he shows up and he gives me that power bank back. And he goes, look, look what I got. you like what is this like you lost this at my house four years ago i was like oh fuck i did i gave my cousin who i rented the beater with that we that we fucking spun out on on the highway i gave him my power bank so he would have battery on his way back to canada he has to drive the beater back five hours by himself after all that yeah yeah so i gave it to him the other day and i was going to buy a new one tomorrow and all of a sudden my power bank from

four years ago, appears with my friend who I haven't seen in months, just, like, here's your power bank. That in itself is like, oh, shit. The past from four years ago just connected to this car accident beater we just rented, and then I gave it away in abundance. Power banks are my babies, bro. Like, I'm not attached to anything, but you fuck with my power banks? Someone's going to show up at your mom's house with some roses, you know?

So like to me it was a lot, you know? I'm like a fucking power bank, bro, let's go. So it was like, it was just another sign that the universe is listening. It gives you a lot of signs, you know. It's whatever, it's a power. I don't care if the power bank's gone, but it's like when it gives you that little, like, oh, all this just connected, just as it did with you, it also did with me and maybe the viewers can resonate in other things in their life, that's the beginning.

the more you tune into that the more it comes to you and the key to tuning it have you ever turned your brain off i no you need to turn your brain like off yes that's not possible it's so hard here turning it off off is that like a metaphor rather you you know it's a meditation it's just breathing you stop you breathe you take some time it's throughout the day bro like you talk to the universe throughout the day right like you said anywhere yeah I do while you look inwards

instead of looking outwards and you breathe that breath is what you got something you're putting into the universe no that breath is the holy spirit that's not what I was going to say okay that holy spirit the Ruhu al Qudus

that Muslims talk about, the Holy Spirit that Christians talk about, okay, even mentioned in all the scriptures there's a Holy Spirit. Bro, what keeps you alive since the moment you're born? Oxygen. Before food and water. And you've never thought about it. You actually stay alive automatically by this thing. That you're never taught to do either.

Without this thing, you die. What happens if next time you manifest from the universe, you breathe with trust so you ask god for something as you ask it you breathe what you're doing there is you're bridging the gap of the holy spirit and by filling that energetic field with trust, the universe will respond. As you become more aware, it becomes quicker. At the beginning, it might take weeks, months, depending on the strength of your faith, depending on how much work you've done.

But it becomes quicker. See, the thing is that you'll see people talk about religion and they'll say, blind faith, blind faith. You know, you don't ask these things. It says, but blind faith is actually. made by questioning everything. Yes. Blind faith doesn't mean you can't question everything.

It means question everything and trust that as you live in the presence, the future is going to be okay. You get me? Yes. I have blind faith that I'm going to be okay after I leave this room. I have blind faith that I'm going to be okay tomorrow in the present moment wherever I am. I have blind faith everywhere that I'm going to be okay.

That doesn't mean that there isn't a like an energetic rejection of it. There is. But I don't dwell on it. I don't attach to a... You don't dwell on it. Yeah, like I'm not attaching if I say, okay, I don't believe this. I'm not going to attach to that. I'll literally only attach the beliefs in my thoughts.

So you're not guaranteeing it. You're assuming it for your own peace. Meaning if you walked out that door right now and some guy had broken in here and blew your brains all over the hardwood floor. it wouldn't happen it wouldn't happen no because you're not thinking it would but afterwards you're in the afterlife you look at that you'd be like well that's just the way it goes well you're arguing a theoretical in the future that doesn't exist yeah you're automatically binding yourself by time bro yeah heos said never here go on bro i did not smoke enough for this he gets it i think he gets it

bro he's been sitting here he's this is speaking to him yeah he's like a physics guy he's he's very into this stuff. This was a good one for you to be here for sure. It's like imagine saying a guy blows out your brains. Bro, come on. I've lived like Morocco, favela, Haiti, cartels. Like, I'm not worried about a guy in New Jersey. You remind me of a friend of mine, Luis Navia, and I can't, I just can't help it all day. But you've lived a better life than him in every way because he was a Sorry, Luis. Luis was literally like the chief smuggler for every cartel around the world for 25 years. Talk to him. But I did. Yeah, he was here. We did two episodes. That was episode 221 and 222. So that was last year. But he, one of the most fascinating people I've ever talked with, he's been out of that world now for 25 years or so. But, you know, a moral guy. The definition of a. moral there's no like like you talk about there's no right and wrong like he takes that to a whole

different level to i believe a fault right and he was very reflective about this especially in the second half of our conversation we really got somewhere with that like an hour into the second episode but i didn't say that yeah you didn't say there's no right and wrong i communicated it but i didn't say that specifically okay well please correct that before i go on i'm with you but i wouldn't throw that blanket statement to the viewers because they're not there yet can you explain that yes you have to be careful for unearned wisdom there there is no right and wrong if I'm to tell you from you know where I'm personally at in life but there is a right as in there's a carmic retribution for your intention okay but on a subjective scale of right

and wrong that's why you have wars happening yes this guy thinks he's right and this guy thinks he's right and they both think they both think they're the good guy fighting for God. Yep. Yep. And so what they're doing is they're just killing each other. Yes. Which is wrong. But they believe they're all right. Right? Yes. You get me? I do. So there is no right and wrong if you understand it. Okay. So I don't think he's reached, even at this point, the transcendental level you have to fully comprehend that. But the reason I was bringing him up is because where there is a similarity between you two is Luis. Luis. Weiss never carried a weapon. He never had to kill anyone. He never had to do any of those things. He was kidnapped by leaders of cartels and would do exactly what you did. Just be like totally, I would describe it as like a natural comedic aloofness to the situation to put people at ease to the point that they'd be like, motherfucker, we're going to kill you. It's like, no, no, no, no, just order dinner. We'll be fine. And they're like, he doesn't have fear. Like, what are we going to do with this guy? So he's like, Mr. Magoo. You got to keep him around. And I think that you. have some like you have such a piece and you've obviously had this for a long time you had it going into the Haiti thing because you wouldn't have been able to handle it the way you did without it but you have some sort of peace towards I don't control what comes next so I'm just going to let this happen and I'm going to do it with a smile on my face yeah yeah for sure that's

great and it's been there before I could even you know communicate it yeah yeah what happened when when you guys had the criminals like put the hit out on you because it'll add Bible thing would that's the most fear i ever felt what did you guys do my face was twitching my face was twitching in like a way that was just he just kept us out of it i just trusted him i mean i'm not going to know what to do better than him yeah and i was like three days in and the fourth and a half day was the hitman interview and that's what i came for so i wasn't going to leave yeah so you just go is that a different hitman you were interviewing yeah yeah no i didn't interview i interviewed an active hitman right yeah what was that like really cool huh that was one of the more fun experiences of my life

what did you think of him he treated me nice mm you know and going back to that circumstantial question why i can't judge i mean his circumstances are crazy you know born in this area in mexico parent gets killed by the cartel or some shit and then like his older cousin wants him to join the cartel or his uncle i forget it was like really intense you know it's like it's more that you just got to show love to everyone like i didn't think of him in a judgmental like oh he's negative it was thank you for the conversation thanks for spilling what you could to me and giving this to the world it was a it was appreciated you know we smoke the bowl together. Did you ask him what he thought of himself as a person?

I did. Yeah. What did you say? Actually, that was the point in my life where I was like super, super curious about all these different people and the way they live things. And I asked really, I would ask really, like, deep questions. I would ask, like, that and, like, you know, how much you get paid per kill. and he wouldn't answer it. And so I pushed it like three, four times

throughout the interview. I kept trying to get it out of him and eventually I kind of did. I asked him what his mom thinks, if he loves people, if he has children. I asked him family. The thing is I try to get personal with them. Yeah, what was his answer?

What does his mom think? Did he have kids? I'm sure his mom doesn't know. Okay. He has a few kids. It's not like something that sticks out anymore, right? Like, because think about it this way, it's like you live this adventure,

Now you have to produce it for a month. So you're sick of it by the time you produce it. You move on to the next one. Like you're just doing the YouTube game. So like I live it, I absorb it in the experience. I wrote about it. Right after that experience, that's when I started my book. Yeah.

I was like, whatever fear I felt today, I need to write about it. Whatever this, whatever happened in the last 48, I'm writing about it. The last five days of the cartel, I have to write about it while it's fresh. So on my way out, I'm like exhausted. We've just traveled 20 hours inside of Mexico in the last day. three different cars break down. I'm on the plane I got like, I'm finally out into safety

once I'm on the plane. I started writing two and a half hours on my way back home. Download. That's when the book started. Yeah, download, literally. It'll never be more fresh than this. Do you think someone like that

radically compartmentalizes, meaning he goes and he's the hitman, he does his job, he kills people, all the things that comes with that then he goes home to his kids and he genuinely is a father and doesn't want for them what he has to do I think everybody's a person

I think you can get the light out of any dark being and I did so with the warlord by the grace of God you know but that guy would step into our room and he would get weak he stopped coming into our room after a few days because his

soldiers would see him in this like weak laughing state like he'd come and he'd laugh at he's like oh this is the funniest white guy I've ever kidnapped like let's enjoy him a bit too you broke the barrier yeah yeah like the dude brought a big ass dog I'm scared of dogs before then I conquered my fear

right there brought this big ass dog like the ones you see in the mafia movies yeah fucking slobbering chains on puts it in front of me and I'm like I pet that bitch beforehand bro beforehand i would have been like oh my god so you were afraid of dogs yeah what was that for did you get attack when you were a kid i think my mom instilled it in me oh your mom was afraid of dogs i'm afraid of a lot of things she's amazing i love you mom that's interesting your mom's afraid of a lot of things but you live your life doing the opposite is part of that like a little bit of uh i guess so part of

the cycle of whatever yeah what do your parents think about what you do it's dangerous you know but I think my dad's like all right with it now he's found peace with it as a man would you know my mother still you know begs to stop I listen I mean I listen like I slow it down but we also have different perceptions of fear mm right like for her the Taliban scary for me it's like just some Arab dudes they're not like a cartel you know they're just like some Arab dudes that I could chat about religion with and film a cool video. Yeah. Yeah.

But you've had a lot of situations where you're, I mean, we've talked about a couple, but there's been a lot of other ones where you have an experience where you could have died, like right there. But people aren't just trying to kill you. They're not. No, man. That's the one thing the West gets fucked up. Like, everyone's trying to kill you.

No, that's like a Western national kind of propaganda thing. You have to adhere to in order to build a national pride. But people aren't trying to kill you, bro. Like, if you're not coming into Afghanistan to kill this guy, he's not trying to kill you. He's just trying to defend his turf. And tribalism has existed since the beginning of time. There are so many tribes. you got your tribe you got you two together you know and probably your close circle and you guys

stick together and you watch out for each other likewise some people do that at a larger scale at a much larger scale at a militia scale at a at a nation scale you know it's all a kind of a rise for power and protection of your own people like we just want to guarantee a safety now you can go to the angle like okay yeah but they're going to try to convert you and if they can they'll convert the whole world um yeah that's just part of civilization like religions exist languages exist you know i still think the the best answer is just being the light everywhere just as long as you carry the light within you you're good you do recognize though that any situation regardless of religion where it is what the culture is when it's a tougher place

we're socioeconomic, it's almost always where socioeconomic opportunities are not as ripe as other places, the people who may be seizing power in an attempt to tell the others it's for everyone's safety and security are the very ones who take that away. Yes. Right. And you've sat with a lot of these guys. Yes. But I also grew up in a day and age where everyone is connected everyone has a phone 99 98% of people in the world have a phone maybe even more they have access to apps which allow them to access the whole world so and now there is a internet money angle where anyone can create money out of thin air yes i'm literally just grabbing tens of thousands of dollars i don't know where fucking you know subscriptions and youtube and spot whatever it's out of nowhere

just get sent into my account what did i do i just uploaded you know what i mean like like really it's out of nowhere so anyone in afghanistan can get paid i have editors in afghanistan anyone in latvia ecuador people places with no with none of this technology you know and although there's these people ruling and they might censor that information such as a place like let's say north korea okay it also doesn't matter because one the ignorance is bliss two you don't know better which is the same thing one and two but like when you worry like that like you don't know better if you're someone in that society you don't know better the problem doesn't actually exist right like you can't even comprehend that it's part of your reality exactly like if you're in afghanistan and you're a uh uh uh wrapped up woman wearing a hijab who, you know, cooks and takes care of the household and the

children and whatever, you're not thinking that I could have an only fan and that's going to make me free. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think the extreme opposite's bad, too, to be clear. I get you, yeah, no, I get you. But I use extremes, too. Yes, no, absolutely. Yeah. It makes sense.

But also, that same woman, though, her mother may have gone to university and, you know, in Western clothes in Afghanistan in the 1960s or 70s. Maybe, totally. But laws change every day, even in the U.S. So laws are not actually written in stone. They're written in sand. Does that make sense? Yeah, it changes.

Yeah. So today, right now, they're voting on hundreds of laws all across. We might be legal today in New York. Tomorrow, it's not. Mm-hmm. Okay, alcohol might be legal today. Tomorrow, it's not. This think crypto might be legal today. Tomorrow, it's not. I mean, not that specifically crypto is going to stay for, but the idea of like, okay, can we gamble on meme coins? Oh, President Trump launched a meme coin the day before he goes into office. Now it's free for all for the world for crypto to adopt technology across the globe. Fuck it. Now we all have a green light. So that law changed. Before it was even a law. It changed. You get me?

Trump launched a coin. Now these countries want to launch a coin. Now Trump's showing that the U.S. will be the hub of crypto for the world. Freedom. We take... So all of that changes, you know? Now you have the army being dropped into Portland, Oregon.

Sorry, bro. The stuff that was legal before is now not legal here. You can't be fucking up police officers. They're here to create that safe. environment where you don't have to have fences around your house right so in order for that change the laws are also going to change and so that's just part of history like i'm not going in to tell these people i just want to sit with them i want to learn personally and then teach that to the world that these perspectives exist having the ability to communicate okay there's probably

going to be a reality within you know my lifetime where i'm probably sitting with world leaders and helping them communicate with each other. I could see you doing that. You get me? Like, they might have this translator that's translating their language. But do you actually understand what it takes to have a peace deal with this guy? Do you know that if you want to have a peace deal with Afghanistan? It's not by telling them, hey, we're going to take this base.

It's by sitting with them and eating. Yes. It's by Donald Trump sitting in their room and eating with them. Yep. that could be in a safe environment easily right so like i could be talking pure bullshit but i'd hope from what we've talked about on this podcast that perspective is at least at least um how do i say it looked upon you're meeting you're meeting people where they are and you think leadership should do that too and i completely agree with you i don't i'm an optimist right

there are parts of the world that i will admit it's very hard to not feel some cynicism right now going on because of sure because of people being massacred in all it's happening in all different places right now there's multiple major wars going on and other ones we don't even talk about and you know in the middle of all this you have power nations, all of whom hold the button to nukes and things that could, you know, blow this planet to bits. And you wonder if this small percentage of suits in back offices or, you know, whatever it may be from culture to culture, who decide to make the decisions for everyone could make the unfathomable decisions that completely destroy this great experiment we have here on this spinning rock right now. So even despite like all the beauty that you see among the stuff that you see,

that's not as beautiful as well. And all the different cultures you see and the places you go and the ability of guys like you to spread good messages and understand other people and get those messages to people in other cultures to understand them. Do you ever worry that like all that could be for naught because there are other people who just don't give a shit? No, there's always going to be other people that don't give a shit. Since the beginning of time, Kane and Abel, the first two sons of recorded lineage that we have. Okay, in Islam and Christianity and Canaan Abel. They killed each other.

One guy was good, one guy was bad. From the beginning of inception of humanity, as told in many books, whether true or not, the concept is there to teach you about this Yian and Yang. Those people will always exist. But you, in your own life and your own perspective of reality, need to do what you can to make your life as positive as possible

by doing those carmically impactful things. In return people will come upon your path which will help you with that. Okay, they will multiply it. That is like bro

like some people are playing this game and then some people are playing like let's summon the divine legion of angels to help us change the world, right? And it's not that this is going to be gone. This is part of the, of just the way things go. Everything must have an opposite.

Okay, it's not that it is an opposite, but everything has that opposite. Everything, this is, you know, some level of high philosophy, I guess, but everything is that which it is and that which it is not. so that hot that that cold is also not hot yes you get me right i'm i'm tracking bro okay so you just got to do what the good that you can do and don't worry about the other shit my buddy tommy g has an amazing for this timmy's a gommy's an all-timer dude i did a video with tommy ones you did yeah i got to go check that out it's funny it was about kidnapping and it was right before i got he came out when i was kidnapped i'll bet it was

Tommy will call you up, he's like, you want to get tortured by the CIA for a video? That's literally what it was. I was like, yo, Tommy, let's do a video together. He's like, I got these guys that are going to torture us for, okay, sure. Oh, wait, were you in the fucking mercenary video? Yes, yes. That was you.

Son of bitch, fuck. A love, love, fuck. All right, so you and me are the two that have been tortured with him on camera. Oh, yeah. So you were in the recent one. Yeah, okay, okay, very cool. The waterboard thing. Very cool, yeah.

That's hilarious. But Tommy has a great line. Hey, it's a pleasure. That's why we came. Hey, we cross paths. That's it. That's the unique thing that we have. We've both been tortured in a Tommy G video.

That's great. Thank you, Tommy G. Love you, Tommy G. But he has this amazing line where he's like, I can't boil the ocean, but I can boil my pot. And he's 100% right. Tommy's got a good team.

He's like, control what I can control and take my good, whatever good I can do in that pot. I'm going to do that. And then hopefully there's a lot of other people boiling pots that can make this about. better place. That's a good one. And it seems like that's kind of, he's lifting up what you're putting down. And he's got a really good team. His team's super inspiring. His team's the best. I love, I love those best. I got along with Keegan. Keegan's the man. McGill's the man.

Keegan actually helped get me into philosophy. Keegan's, he's a smart motherfucker, bro. Keegan was, that was a few years ago. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to have to all do a video together at some point. I would love to. But we're going to have to do this again as well, brother. This has been. How long has it been? We just went for three hours. So, I mean, that flew by. You're a really, really sharp guy.

You have an amazing, amazing perspective from all the places you've been. Like, you actually go do things. I like that. You're not just talking about things. Like, you've been there and you're constantly learning from it. Every day is a lifetime. That's it, Doug. I hope you continue to do it.

But thanks so much for going through all of it today. We will have your YouTube link below. Anything else you want linked as well. You let me know. That'll be down there. Taboo TV is going to be the crazy. It looks cool. Yeah.

It looks really cool. I want to talk to those guys on there. For the craziest content in the world. Yeah. Introduce you to them. Would love that. Yeah, we'll lead it will be in the US in a few weeks. Okay, yeah.

Fuck yeah, let's go, bro. All right, bro. Well, we'll do this again sometime. Cheers. All right. Thank you for having me. Of course. Everybody else, you know what it is.

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