Julian Dorey Podcast - #381 - "Lying SCUM!" - Julian ERUPTS on Epstein Files, Elites & LIARS

Episode Date: February 7, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:52 Advising the president of the United States every fucking day. What's up, guys? Like pretty much all of you, I was disgusted by this latest round of Epstein files, emails, all the stuff that's been released. This case is obviously one of the worst cases, if not the worst case that I've ever seen in my life. And somehow, it keeps getting worse. So every week, producer Joe Defe and I do a show on Patreon and YouTube members only. This was that show for this past week.
Starting point is 00:01:24 But after I released it, many of the patrons and members were insisting that we make this one public. So we are doing that now. If you would like to see more content like this, you can join the Patreon or YouTube members via the link in my description below. Otherwise, we will have much more public content coming out on the Epstein files as we get more information. If you are not subscribed, please subscribe and enjoy this episode. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Great Society Show. I am Julian Dory.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And I'm Joey Dave. How you doing? Let's get right into it. We're not going to waste any time beating around the bush. Obviously, there was another trove of emails. photos, videos, files, whatever the fuck you want to call it. It was all in there, dropped on Jeffrey Epstein and that whole case this past Friday. Like many of you, I have been going through it voraciously and trying to make sense of it all. Some things we will never be able to make sense
Starting point is 00:02:18 of. Other things were revelatory. I will say, I did see, before I go into this, I did see Rokana say that it's not even half of what they want. And I appreciate him and Thomas. Massey from a bipartisan perspective continuing to push for all of what they asked for to come out and I'm sure they will that said this drop seemed to have some of the most open-enders if you will on it as far as like creating more links that we had known about but now it's literally there in writing what I do want to give people a heads up on is what should be an obvious point in today's internet age but I always have to remind myself this as well There are a lot of fake screenshots floating around out there on Twitter and on Instagram and all these different sites where it's a made-up email that's not real. I appreciate a lot of the journalists who instead of even posting a screenshot have literally just posted the link to justice.gov when they refer to something so that you can go click it there and see that it's real. That said, some of the ones that you would think are fake screenshots are actually very real. So the ones that I'm going to discuss today, I have the HDMI here because I got everything on my computer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 So we'll do it that way today. But the ones I'm going to discuss today are all verified and real. And the people on them in many cases or most cases are people you know quite well. Now, Dief, you have been checked out from the internet over the past couple weeks. Yes. God bless you. That's awesome. I give myself iPad kid time where I go on Instagram and X for a half hour.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And then I'm usually like, oh my God, get this out of here. I love it. I love it. And that's great because you're getting fresh eyes on this. Yeah, no, this is, the only thing I've seen of these new files folks was like some of the Elon screenshots of him like wanting to go to like dope parties. Yeah, there's a lot of emails between Elon Musk and Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. That's all I've seen, though.
Starting point is 00:04:21 This is super fresh eyes. Let me actually start there. Okay. Hit it. So what I don't want to do as tempting as it is is on people where there's gray area say guilty and accuse them of all these things, even if it's not great that they were in any way fucking communicating with this guy. But we'll talk about some of the nuance of that as much as we may not want to see it today. With Elon, that's where I'm going to be, but I am going to raise some valid questions here. So Bill Clinton got bodybagged a few weeks ago for releasing a statement where he basically said,
Starting point is 00:05:08 release all the Epstein files, give full transparency and everything. And because people know the dog Bill Clinton was such good friends with this guy, took fucking 27 rides on the dude's plane, you know, people were making fun of him like, yeah, Bill, like, we know you're guilty, like, just because you're getting out in front of it to say you're recommending transparency. It's basically like, you know, what was the old Japanese soldier thing where they would commit suicide? Comaqazi? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, basically, someone was like, yo, we live in in Kamikaze, Petrovill over here. Like, they're just, they're just like, fucking taking the moral stands to expose themselves as, you know, doing all these things.
Starting point is 00:05:49 there's a similar potential, and I'm going to use the word potential there with Elon. Elon has been going out of his way to tweet that all this should be released, to accuse other people being in the files, and then when he's in the files, tweeting about it, and particularly retweeting or replying to tweets that mentioned that Elon of all these, and they will list all these different famous people, of all these people calling for criminal prosecutions, Elon who are mentioned in the files, Elon's the only one calling for them. Like no one else is calling
Starting point is 00:06:23 for them. And Elon's like exactly. Ask yourself why. And to me, that could be some, there's a potential, unfortunately, I have to say this, that that is some projection and some trying to like, be like, yeah, I support criminal prosecutions. Therefore, I could never be a criminal in this. Because when you look at these emails, from 2012 to 2014, Elon Musk. went back and forth with Jeffrey Epstein a lot and would reply to him within the day every almost every time on the emails and he he asked him there was an exact email let me just let's get this right so that you know people have it all right iran ma okay so i'm going to stick this over here yeah get it up there all right so this was one of the first ones christmas day 2012 at 6 a m
Starting point is 00:07:24 Elon to Jeffrey Epstein. What the fuck? Do you have any parties planned? I've been working to the edge of sanity this year and so once my kids head home after Christmas I really want to hit the party scene in St. Bart's or elsewhere and let loose. The invitation is much appreciated
Starting point is 00:07:41 but a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I'm looking for. That was in reply to Epstein who 12 hours before that on Christmas Eve said you are welcome to stay or just come for the day. Plenty of room. I will send a heli for you. I'm getting rid of this. fucking screen.
Starting point is 00:07:58 All right. A month before that, Epstein said, how many people will you be for the heli to the island? Elon, probably just Tallulah, which was his wife at the time, and me, what day slash night will be the wildest party on your island? This is four years after the guy was convicted. All right? And I'm going to talk about that later as it relates to another person being unaware,
Starting point is 00:08:24 apparently nine years later of his convictions. So let me be fair to Elon and say, perhaps he didn't know. But that is, this guy was very publicly convicted. And Elon in 2008 was already, he was becoming a big name. He was about to do a fucking cameo and Iron Man.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah. You know, like he was a known guy. And so ask, it's just, look, asking what night the wildest party on your island's going to be? is not great. If there's one thing in this email that's all right, I like that he's saying his wife will come with him.
Starting point is 00:09:02 That's something you never see with these people. I will give him that. So, you know, he's talking about he's literally talking about bringing his wife at the time. But this was another thing. In these emails from 2012 to 2014, the tone on Jeffrey Epstein was totally different than the tone I saw on any other people that he was talking with. I would require, I would call it a dick sucking tone.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Mm. Whoa. Yes. I would call it a, a kid in Toys R Us trying to get the shit, jump to the shelf to get the shiniest fucking toy. Yeah. And the toy being E-line. Like he very, he would constantly be like checking in on him.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Like there was an email where he's like, you know, oh, oh, he goes, will you take a break? April, like he's asking him a bunch of question marks too. That's always a very needy sign. He wasn't doing that in a lot of emails. Elon goes, this is in March 2013, so a few months later. It is 3 a.m. in California, and I'm still working on Tesla and SpaceX email. We'll hit the sack shortly, but be up at 7 for a call. April should be better, but it depends on how well CA goes, I guess, referring to California.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Later that year, now at Christmas again, year later after the first Christmas one, Elon to Jeffrey, will be in BVI-S-Barts area over the holiday. Is there a good time to visit? Jeffrey responds any day first through eighth, play it by ear if you want, always space for you. And then Jeffrey, and I only screenshot at 7 emails here, you can go to the jmail.world site, which creates a dummy. Pull it up on your own computer deep so you can see what I'm talking about. But it creates a dummy Gmail and drive of all these files as if you're logging in like Jeffrey Epstein and you can search names and you can see there's a million emails between these two and Jeffrey would say like there was one email where Jeffrey would say and I don't have that one screenshot, but he's like
Starting point is 00:11:10 Reed Hoffman and and what's his name? Something Ito the famous tech guy or Joy Ito are both going to be with me. Can you come? now Elon must notoriously hates Reid Hoffman but he wasn't acting like he hated him back then in the emails now he hates him and we know he does they do hate each other but like he's like Elon was trying to defend this like as if Reid Hoffman was going to be a selling point to get me there at the time he wasn't saying like fuck that guy or anything like that
Starting point is 00:11:42 this email I screenshoted though right here it was another one and it doesn't have the date on it, but this was one where the government redacted the names. I mentioned the one where he said, I just said where it was going to be read and joy, two huge, huge guys, right? Reed Hoffman is the founder of LinkedIn. This one redacted the email, the other email that it was to with Elon Musk and then redacted the names.
Starting point is 00:12:09 It says, however, blank and blank will be on St. Bart starting today. I want to know who the fuck that was. Because I'll tell you one thing that they didn't redact in these emails is a lot. lot of the victim's names, by the way. They redacted them into videos and photos. Interesting. But like, we're going to be having an Epstein victim come on in a few weeks here, a couple weeks. Yeah, a couple weeks. And she's very upset at how other powerful people are protected and then they didn't even protect the victims with the names, which I completely agree with her. And again, this is where Massey and Rokana and some of these other guys pushing for this
Starting point is 00:12:49 are going to flip out that things are being redacted and they have every right to because I'm flipping out as well and you should be as well. There should be no redactions here. I didn't screenshot these emails, but former MBA Commissioner David Stern who retired in 2014 was going back and forth with Jeffrey like crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:07 That's good. If people can verify this one in the comments for me, actually maybe I can do this live. Hold on Jmail. Jmail. dot world okay David Stern
Starting point is 00:13:24 Ukraine David Stern um David Stern went back and forth with him like crazy bro which was very interesting
Starting point is 00:13:41 this was one I didn't have time to verify but David Stern was meeting him at his house this is right when he was retiring
Starting point is 00:13:49 from being commissioner as well geez back in 2014 which is interesting. David Stern is deceased now. And then there's emails as well for visits in 2010, I see. But there was some sort of back and forth
Starting point is 00:14:05 about David Stern getting, maybe it was Karina, Epstein's girlfriend, some sort of visa with Ukraine in 2014 during the Maidan period. I don't know the details there. Maybe people in the comments can help that is not one I had time to go through and verify before. But that seems...
Starting point is 00:14:28 That's weird as fuck. It's like, what the fuck? Like, why are you doing this? You know what I mean? Jeez. All right, so back to Elon and Jeffrey. There was another back and forth in December 2013 where Elon's asking a good time to visit.
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Starting point is 00:15:58 I will come and get you. Elon goes, I need to fly back to L.A. on the night of the second. Actually, I could fly back on the third. We will be in St. Bartz. When should we head to your island on the second? I do want to know if he ever ended up there. He's always denied going there. I want to know if he ended up there because they kept talking in 2014.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I mean. And there's another email that I don't have screenshot it here, but I did verify this. I got it through the Jmail. dot world where Epstein like checks in on him and he goes, how are things going better? And Elon, it's like maybe April 2013 or March 2013 or 2014 in that area of 2013 or 2014. And Elon responds like things better still very overworked or whatever. But there was a real you could tell like one thing that. was already
Starting point is 00:16:56 beyond a shadow of a doubt the case long before these emails came out that anyone with a fucking P-sized brain could tell is that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence spy. He wasn't an access agent
Starting point is 00:17:12 like Andy Bustamante has said in the past he seems to be coming around to the right side on that at this point I think I won't speak for him. He wasn't this like right time right place fucking pedo he was a
Starting point is 00:17:24 literal spy, pedo. All right? And when you see the emails with Elon Musk, it is so clear the Elon Musk is a target, a top-tier bullseye number one trophy hunting target for Epstein. And perhaps Elon never did land for him. And I have to give Elon that possibility because there is no confirmation from these emails. that he ever followed through on one of those island trips or that he ever followed through with actually meeting with him that's less than more than i can say for than peter attia you know we'll
Starting point is 00:18:05 we'll get that out as well but that one is very very case open for me more than it ever has been before because the extent the way eland always played this is that he had very little if any contact with him didn't really know who he was or whatever and i'm just so saying the guy who's the head of Tesla and SpaceX, and these were years, 2013, 2014 is when that shit was taken off. Yeah. This is one, he's becoming one of the most famous guys in the world. Stock was booming. Busy as hell.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And he's responding to this guy like he's an important VIP. Day of. Yeah. Yeah. That's not, brother, I'm a very unimportant person and I have 104,000 unready, emails and that's some of that's my own fault for sure but like this was him personally responding not even his assistant yeah no I don't have an assistant like making time day of to like write an email that's what I'm saying work it's very weird very weird very strange regardless of what you
Starting point is 00:19:16 think like it if you go to have Elon Musk on your podcast you must like from a not I won't even say from a journalistic capacity, from a basic humanity capacity. Yeah, 100%. He needs to address all this. Yeah. And he is not allowed in the studio if he is not willing to do that. Like, that has to happen. And I hope it's Joe that does it with him. I really do. It won't be. You know, I hope it is. But yeah, I have some pause. You know, he is one of the only guys openly tweeting about it. in whatever, but that is part of, or it could be, I should say, part of a PR campaign to try to say, hey, got nothing hot.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah, I mean, you can argue that like Trump was trying to get out in front of him all those years too of being like, we got to be transparent. And then in November, he's like, that doesn't exist. It's a democratic hoax. Trump's response to this is a total disgrace. It's a complete and utter disgrace. I don't care where you stand politically. But my point is that, like, just because they're getting ahead of shit, like, I don't
Starting point is 00:20:27 know if that's enough credit. But he, you know, he's still calling it a Democratic hoax. I also want to pull up the Massey stuff. Thomas Massey. And let's let's state the obvious here. Okay. And I've stated this before. Jeffrey Epstein worked for Israel. Period. End of story. I don't say that as a shot to anyone. I say that as a fucking inarguable fact. We'll get to the Ahudu-Barrac stuff here. All right, which we've also known that forever. And if you followed this, case at all and looked at all the people that he's associated with and all the people that he came up with, that's where the puck goes to. That's where it goes to. Now, I have a strong feeling, and I've also said this publicly before, that part of the reason that this is so covered up by
Starting point is 00:21:20 the United States is not just because, oh, Massad has blackmailed on too many of our people, and if we do this, it's like the Dead Man Switch is going to hit and we're all fucked. I don't think it's all that. I think it is a complicity. Now, here's what I mean by that. I couldn't give you an exact date and I don't have hard evidence to be able to tell you, this is definitely how it is, but just putting all the evidence we do have together
Starting point is 00:21:57 and painting a picture of what this could look like. I would say at some point, if I had to guess, I'm going to say late 90s to early 2000s, CIA figured out what this guy was doing. Jeffrey Epstein until that Bill Clinton flight to Africa that he took Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, and Chris Tucker on in 2002 was not known publicly. He was known in the social circles of New York City, but he was not a known person publicly. And that's what a good spy, by the way, is supposed to be, not fucking known publicly.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And then he does this flight. He gets the page six story in the New York Post. And then, you know, suddenly people are like, who is this guy? And Vicki Ward decides to write this big interview article with him for Vanity Fair in early 2003, which he invites her over to his house. And he enjoyed it. He liked the attention. And so at some point, either shortly in the years before,
Starting point is 00:23:00 that or right around that time. Somebody at Langley figured out, oh shit, there's a dude with a ranch in Mexico, the biggest house in New York City, an island in the fucking Caribbean that he takes people to with a fucking temple on it, a place in West Palm Beach. We got pictures of him doing weird shit. He's in that enclave neighborhood in Ohio as well. He's connected to some of the most powerful people in the world. And he's a peto. And we can, oh my God, we can connect him to Khashoggi. We can connect them to arms deals. We can connect them to all this different shit. And this has been happening right under our fucking nose. And then they're like, oh my God, look at all the people he's got so much blackmail on. Oh my God. We can't just like, we can't just
Starting point is 00:23:55 like arrest them. That's what they say to themselves. I'm not saying that that's what they should said, but that's what they say themselves. So they, in my opinion, they go to Epstein. And they say, listen, buddy, you know that we know that you know that we know that we know that we know that we can't do anything about it. Because you know that we know that we know that you have all kinds of shit on all these fucking people that would make this house of cards of our fucking bureaucracy go. And you know that we know that you know that we know that the country you're working for and our government has a close relationship on a lot of other stuff. And so this shit can't come out. So here's the deal, buddy.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Now you pay us a tax. You're going to do all this shit and whatever? We can't do it. All right. But you're doing it on our land. So if you're going to keep doing it, you pay us a tax. And the tax is we want information, we take it. Now they've made the unholy alliance.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Now they've co-signed it. And I have, oh, if I were a betting man, I would bet very strongly on that having happened. Yeah. And it makes them complicit. Now, to me, maybe, I don't know, maybe I'm from New Jersey. I think of this too simply, blow the guy's fucking brains out. And then look at Mossad and say, what are you going to do about it? Blow his brains out.
Starting point is 00:25:30 It's not hard. Be like, ah, you know, something went wrong. There was nothing we could do about it. He's gone. There's nothing we could do. We had a problem. Yeah, no, sorry. Oh, that was yours?
Starting point is 00:25:46 Oh, we didn't know that. That's what they should have done. But some fucking retard in all likelihood said, well, I could cause an international incident or something about a fucking pedophile. And so, well, This is horrible, but look at the information we could get.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And there you go. That is probably, I feel very strongly that that happened. The best method of control is time. The best method of control is time. Yeah. All right. Sun to zoo. Why kill him then?
Starting point is 00:26:37 I'm still not tracking. Well, for the same reasons you say. It's like, why kill him then? They can, that's, that's something that they can keep and just continue to harvest from. Yeah, but become complicit. Oh, well, yeah, yeah. But they're not, they don't give a shit about that. They're thinking about the control and the power play.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Where they're still somewhat powerless because they know it's a foreign agent. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, 100%. But I'm just saying, like, in the simplest terms of like their head in the house of cards, they're preserving. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:13 So in this tranche of emails, which is largely from like 2011, 2010 on. Good era. This is post Epstein's relationship with Trump. They had had a falling out. It's pretty well documented at that point. It's actually been documented by- That's like every every like Trump boot lickers thing. Like he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Right. Which is not the full story. It's not. It's not the full story at all. But I will say he had had a falling out with him at this point. It literally confirmed by the lead attorney for the victim is Brad Edwards, who met with Donald Trump in 2008. He's the only person that agreed to meet with Brad and discuss things about Epstein with him, which could have been a part of a long-term play here. Could have just been getting ahead of it.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Because that's also another thing, brother. there are emails now before I say this as well it would be right to put this asterisk on even this I gotta be fair be fair
Starting point is 00:28:21 Nancy Mace who's one of the few people who is I believe put her money where her mouth is with this voted with this supported this supported the victim she's been emotional about it as well she did say that she was told
Starting point is 00:28:37 that emails that you see particularly from 2020 on, which is post-Jepstein's death, are going to include a lot of crazy shit that isn't real. She's right about that. And I'm going to explain why. She is categorically right about that. Once this became a very public scandal when Jeffrey Epstein died, it attracted the attention of everyone.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And so the FBI, this happens with any major high-profile case. FBI, whoever it is, investigating it, they go from getting 10 leads to getting 10 million leads. And that includes your schizophrenic neighbor who watched the news and is calling in and saying that, you know, he was fucked by a, you know, fake owl of ball.
Starting point is 00:29:28 It's a lead. And the FBI is required to do their job, internally discussed with each other, track it down, to either see if there's something there or more than likely, unfortunately, in 99.9% of these cases rule it out. So let me give a couple examples here. There was an email about Jay-Z and Push-a-T handling women with Jeffrey Epstein in 1996.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'd have to Google it with Push-A-T. I don't even know if Push-A-T was a thing back then. To quote Mike Maylack, who made a great point here, J-Z was handing out fucking reasonable doubt records in the Marcy Projects in 1990. He was not Jay-Z yet. Yeah. He did not know Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:16 You know, maybe Jay-Z is an awful guy. I'm open to it. If there's ever proof, they's an awful guy. I am more than open to that. There's just a very weird obsession with people what, like, rooting for him to be this awful guy. Yeah. And like by, and again, if he is, if it turns out and there's actual evidence presented that like he's a scumbag, great, fry him. But it's so strange watching people be a, it's like they are, it's like they are rooting for him to be this thing.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And still to this day, there's never been something presented with real evidence that can show that he's this thing. And this is another example. So you have to say that. There were emails like this. And then there was an email, you know, accusing Epstein, Trump and like name fucking five other people of like raping a 10 year old girl in a room or something. and it's from 2021. And I believe the email, if I remember correctly, correct me in the comments, if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:14 There's a lot of emails here. It was like FBI agents going back and forth, just reporting what was told to them. Not like, oh my God, we got something here. It's just like, okay, this person said, blah, blah, vo. Yeah. I say all this to say there was a report in 2020, an official report
Starting point is 00:31:33 where, and it was as a part of these files, that the FBI filed where Donald Trump is accused of being compromised and I quote by Israel this is from 1019, 2020 and it is from
Starting point is 00:32:01 you know, I'll throw it on the screen well I can't put it on the screen because it's too small for me to read up there so I'm going to read it right here I'll put it on the screen in a minute it is from a confidential human source And this is, again, this is an official document that they actually filed. It's not just emails between FBI agents, just reporting whatever lead came in. And it says, Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz,
Starting point is 00:32:31 CHS learned that Dershowitz influenced many students from wealthy families. For example, Josh Kushner and Jared Kushner, were both his students. Dershowitz told CHS that if he were young again, he would be holding a stun gun as in his role. Israeli Massad agent. CHS believed Dershowich was co-opted by Mossad and subscribed to their mission. CHS still continues to communicate occasionally for Dershowitz. I've never seen any, I have to say this, I've never seen any hardcore, definitely
Starting point is 00:33:05 dying the wolf proof that Alan Dershowitz is a Mossad spy. I do also have to say Dershowitz is perhaps the only guy very closely connected to the Epstein case since day one who has never shied away from a camera on this. In fact, he invites it. He's been doing it since day one of this case coming out and denying everything. Doesn't mean that that's not projection, but that is more than I can say for pretty much anyone else. However, we all know Alan Dershowitz loves Israel. I mean, you can't say a bad word about Israel around him. He is the chief defender, and as a Jewish American, that's fine to be a defender of the country. But in my opinion, he goes beyond being a defender of the country and says things where it's like,
Starting point is 00:33:53 well, I don't know that that's in America's best interest to say that. So which one is it, Alan? You know what I mean? Like, you're from here. Do you want to be loyal to there? It's like I'm half Irish and half Italian. All right? This is how I look at it.
Starting point is 00:34:06 All right? Because everyone's got to look at the same. We're a nation of immigrants. most of us or a lot of us didn't have any family here before 1900 so there's things we can relate to would all do respect to my half-irish side i never been to ireland i'm sure it's a great place i'm sure the people are awesome if it weren't there tomorrow it wouldn't have a huge effect on my day love my irish friends out here but like it's not i feel no cultural connection to it i go out of my way to not celebrate st patrick's day it's my least favorite day at a year and the food sucks
Starting point is 00:34:39 and I've never been and there's no connection. Italy, on the other hand, is every cultural custom from both sides of my family throughout my whole life. I have lived there. I have family there. I have family who I have visited there. I've traveled the entire country. I love that place.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I feel a cultural connection. It is an amazing, amazing place. If tomorrow my government came to me and said, Julian, some shit went down last night. Turns out, we are at war. with Italy. So you gotta decide who you're fighting for. They would not even have to ask the question.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Before that once they said war and Italy, I'd have my fucking U.S. Army fatigues on. I'd grab the nearest functioning fucking weapon, find the nearest plane trainer automobile to head the fuck over to Italy. And I'm not gonna like it, but we're gonna mow down any Mario and Luigi's to get the fuck in my way.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And if you don't, and I'm not gonna like it. And I'm gonna really try to not fucking do anything near women and children, of course. But like, if you don't believe me that something like this is a real possibility, go look at all the people whose names ended in a fucking vowel who fought in the Italian fucking campaign for the United States in World War II. This was a real thing. These are people whose parents didn't even speak English. but they fought for America. With Amex Platinum, you have access to over 1,400 airport lounges worldwide.
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Starting point is 00:36:35 So I switch to Garnier-Missler Water. It gently cleanses, perfectly removes makeup, and provides 24-hour hydration. Clear away the evidence with the number one Missler Water worldwide by Garnier. And so where I do run into a problem is when someone like Alan Dershowitz, if I asked him that question, I know what the answer is. It's some sort of pause and then deflection saying it's a stupid question. And we know what the answer is. The answer is not America, despite the fact that he's born and raised here and he's an American. And that's where I run into an issue.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And by the way, I would say most of my Jewish friends, they're going to answer just like I did. Guys like Alan Dershowitz are not, and I will call that out because that's an issue. I have Israeli friends who live in America who would answer Israel. And that is perfectly acceptable because they're from there. They were born there. They're from there. I get it. Fine.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Fine. But like, I run into a huge issue on this. So on this report. CHS, continuing the FBI report from 2020, confidential human force advised that this was a real story. Trump has been compromised by Israel and Kushner is the brains behind the organization and the presidency. Now, let me also annotate here. I don't, I think the, I don't know who this confidential human source is.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I think the confidential human source is wrong is overstating the Kushner thing. There's no way Kushner was fucking running the White House. Did Jared Kushner have a lot of say in the first administration? Absolutely. Absolutely. Did he have more say than, you know, the son of a real estate convicted felon real estate developer who had never really accomplished a ton on his own should have had? Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And did he win some power struggles in the White House? Yes, he did. But do I think Jared Kushner was pulling all the strings on Donald Trump in the first administration? No, I do not. There are certain situations where I think he did. I'll give you an example. Donald Trump came to the PR rescue effectively of MBS in the Jamal Khashoggi incident. And Donald Trump was actually later quoted as saying, according to sources, I saved his ass. And that was something that Kushner had a direct impact on because Kushner was working on the Abraham Accords,
Starting point is 00:39:02 which would need cooperation there from Saudi Arabia. So he did have influence. But I think the human source is exaggerating when he says that. I think you have to be fair when you look at this. But the reason that I always have to look at the Israel Trump thing is because it is the one thing. Like there's no one who is more aware of polls than Donald Trump. No. He loves polls. Loves polls.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And once a poll is 51 to 49, it's a blowout. That's how he treats it because he recognizes as long as he. you have the smallest, slimmest majority, you got enough to win. And so any poll related to how United States citizens left and right feel about the relationship with Israel and any poll about United States citizens left and right about how they feel about Jeffrey Epstein, these are the two polls that Donald Trump just fucking trashes and ignores and takes the hard opposite on no matter what. and then openly jokes about things in front of us, in front of the mic,
Starting point is 00:40:13 that no one should ever joke about. Joking about one of your biggest donors, Miriam Adelson, always coming into the White House and how, you know, well, she might be more loyal. I think she's more loyal to Israel. Yeah, that's a problem. Yeah. And it's not, this is where I get pissed off.
Starting point is 00:40:31 It's not anti-Semitic to say that. I'm talking about another government. No one calls me anti-China-Semitic. No one calls me anti-China-Semitic. anti-Russia Semetic. No one calls me anti-Saudi Arabia Semetic when I say shit about their governments and the influence they have here. It's fuck everybody that has an influence. I don't pick it to one place. We're talking about it with Donald Trump because there's one place that seems to have $232 million worth of known public influence over him. And he's making some decisions that are questionable. And when you see these files and you see Who Jeffrey Epstein is coordinating with, there's no doubt who he's working for.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And that has to be called out, friend or not. All right? Like there has to be some sort of understanding here. Because something like this can never happen again. And I've always said it. And this is the really uncomfortable truth. And it's not fun. And I don't support it in any way.
Starting point is 00:41:37 But I try to deal in facts here. these kinds of things sex espionage if you will sick sex espionage involving minors as well this is something this is not just an Israeli thing this is something that intelligence
Starting point is 00:41:53 agencies around the world do dare I say ours included it is a sick form of spying that should be stopped in all its forms even with spying there has to be a line somewhere just like we've had
Starting point is 00:42:09 nuclear bombs in this world for 80 years and despite all the despots, dictators, scumbags, fascist, communists, everything that's existed since then, it is one thing everyone has had just enough... fucking decency on. Perhaps with the helps of aliens, you never know. Careful. To not hit that button. There needs to be, and it's mutually assured destructionville, right? There needs to be a mutually destroyed destructionville on this kind of expionage. You want to lure some fucking ambassador into a hotel with a 27 year old hot woman
Starting point is 00:42:47 who's really a spy because you got to get him as a source. All right. I guess that's your spy game. Fine. That's legal. I don't like it, but that's what they do. I find. I draw the line at 12 year olds.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Islands, temple fucking sacrifices. You know, and one thing these emails are not going to help with, I understand why they're not going to help is with people who go nuts on conspiracy theories, on other conspiracy theories that aren't Epstein. They look at this and I have to see it from their lens for a second, even if I still think a lie of that shit is wrong and doesn't have evidence. They look at this and they go, come on.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Look at how open and overt. Of course, that means this other shit's all real, which is part of what it feels like this is the other thing. Yeah, is it a mass psychosis? Like, that's what I think, too. That's another part. That's where my brain's been going the last, like, week. Right. Just because the way, just like the way, like, I'm talking about it with, like,
Starting point is 00:43:51 like, this is a topic of discussion I'm having with, like, everybody. Like, people, like, you never even talked about these kinds of things with will be like, dude, did you see this shit? Like, nothing's real. Like, dude, like, isn't it crazy that all those years of, like, smoking weed and watching Pizza Gate videos? And now, like, it's actually, like, being. confirmed. It's just like, I feel like, I'm like, wow, is this kind of the playbook is to just get a
Starting point is 00:44:16 mass psychosis of everyone just losing their fucking minds? And then you're not to start being able to discern anything. It's a fair point. I've looked at this and I and don't hear me wrong on this. I'm not making a joke of this. I'm saying this is. Yeah, none of this is this is the bizarre nature of it. These emails feel like almost an outward long term plan of memification. And what I mean by that is Just start at the top Read what his email At handle is
Starting point is 00:44:49 Steve Jeffrey Epstein Yeah it's GVacation At gmail.com JEEE vacation Yeah It's like a fucking Build a email
Starting point is 00:45:02 AOL account that your grandpa made in 1999 for shits and gigs for retirement Well I mean Didn't we say that a few patrons ago Or am I misremembering Didn't we bring this up Yeah we might have
Starting point is 00:45:14 Because, like, you do, you even, like, I know I've been off socials a few weeks, but you go on. It's like memes are, you know, shithead Steve. Like, they're making like Epstein catered memes. Like, damn, I ain't even make it on the list for real, for real. Like, that's not, that's not a sci-op. Yeah, the typos, the typos that you see in these. And, like, even his sign-off is like on some of the automatic, you know, sent from my iPhone includes sorry for typos.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah. His typos are terrible. And yet people have also found in the files that Gielin and Jeffrey, and I got to look more into this, but Gielan and Jeffrey had accounts under pseudonyms for everything. Oh, yeah. From Pinterest to Yahoo. Yeah. Did you see the Reddit one?
Starting point is 00:46:07 R slash poll, that fucking Nazi subreddit. Like he was involved. The guy started. it the day after he met with Jeffrey Epstein. So also, meaning he was technologically in the game. Yeah, that both of them. Yeah. Advanced.
Starting point is 00:46:25 He couldn't type for shit, but he was advanced. And that's actually a sidebar I want to take for a second. There are a lot of people who are reviewing the two to four hours of footage that's been released from some of the Steve Bannon interviews, at least two sit downs. Steve Bannon did 18 hours on camera with Jeffrey Epstein. So we now have like two to four hours of it. There are a lot of people saying like, oh my God, this guy was a retard. I think when Jeffrey talked about science, he was trying to kick up.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Meaning like he would talk about some things that is like you don't really know. Yeah, he heard he heard it at a lunch with this dope scientist that he's friends with. However, and I still need to see more and I never, I'm glad I never did. never had a chance to meet with this guy personally. So you can't fully decide this off of just watching video of him talk and reading his emails, but more the video of him talking emails are really tough to decipher this kind of thing. But I have known people who talk like Jeffrey Epstein does. And I've known in some of those cases very smart people who talk like Jeffrey Epstein does. Let me explain that.
Starting point is 00:47:46 He stutters. He bounces around, but he's talking about complex things. And right away, you say, okay, well, that could be charlatanism. For sure. That's still a very big possibility. But when he was talking about financial markets and making some of the points about money and how it works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:13 It's been a while since I was on Wall Street. I can't say that I keep up with that. stuff, but like it's clicking. He's clicking. 100%. And what I mean by I've known guys who communicate like him as this. There are guys whose minds think so fast that their minds are ahead of the words coming out of their mouths. So they stutter around. They can't paint exist. They're not amazing communicators of how to express it, but they're geniuses. I'll give you a great example, actually, a friend of mine. Actually, I don't want to call them out by name. There's a friend. friend of mine who I had on the podcast once, who was a literal genius.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I mean, fucking seeing fractals that you and I can't see. His mind goes so fast that he talks like Jeffrey Epstein. And you're like, wait, what do you say? And then after like three minutes, you piece it together. And you're like, oh, wow. Yeah, he's cooking. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:10 When you then combine that with the Coney Island accent, I was going to say. It is actually the best cover ever because it puts people around you at ease when you're around smart people because their instant thought is that, ah, this guy's retarded. And then an hour later, they're like, oh, wait a minute. And then they wonder what they've said in that hour. It is a perfect, perfect access spy thing. Because as long as he can stay in the conversation with people and not literally get kicked
Starting point is 00:49:42 out, which he had a good ability to do, apparently, he knows he's going to get information. And he knows he's going to be able to use that information. He knows he's going to be able to build on that information. And so I'm going to take a contrarian take here and say that again, I can't say this with 100% confidence, but there is a chance that he actually was not what all these people like the Eric Weinsteins and all these other people have described. I'm not calling them out. I'm just saying you hear all these smart people in hindsight say, oh, I knew he was a total idiot right away, total Charlton. I had nothing, no idea what he was talking about.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Some of that I think is rewriting history to try to make it sound like they pushed him off. And some of it, I think, is actually making the wrong assumption because they're not realizing what he's clocking. I do think there was intelligence there. Again, on the science stuff, I think there's a little bit of like, you know, trying to act like he's an expert on gravity or something. He's not really an expert on that. Excuse me. It's clear to me why he was able to get around some of these people and build. such a network.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He's, dude, he's an educated Jewish New Yorker from Brooklyn. Like, I think anyone who think is making that argument of, like, he doesn't sound smart is probably just like some, like, good old boy from the South or some jerk off from Kansas. No offense,
Starting point is 00:51:10 folks, I'm just joshing you. But actually, like... So there's a video I want to put up on the screen. Let's get to this part. All right, you're going to have to play audio through your... Through my... Your mic.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Okay. So let me just air drop it to myself. But Ahud Barak is a very well-known name in Israel. He started his careers in Israeli commando and their special forces, eventually rose up all the way to be prime minister of Israel. He succeeded Benjamin Netanyahu after his first term in 1999. He beat him in the election and was the prime minister of Israel. He's a power player over there, someone that you still see all the time somehow on the news. He'll fucking go on Piers Morgan and talk about.
Starting point is 00:51:52 about Israel. I don't know how. He's been very, very exposed as a close friend of Epstein. There were pictures of him going into the mansion, like with scarves around himself back in 2011, 2012. It is a known thing that he's around Epstein. But again, there's publications trying to push that Epstein was a Russian spy right now with a straight face, which is hilarious. But this is a recording, and I'll play it on here, as you said, of Jeffrey Epstein and a hood Barack. I don't know the year on this, but it was somewhere in like the 2013, 2014, 2015 area, where Jeffrey Epstein is talking about a post-Israeli government career for Ahud Barak. It was freshly out of the actual government. And he starts pitching him a very interesting company with a guy that we're going to
Starting point is 00:52:42 talk about. Oh, I think I know. If I had to guess. Starts with the P if I had to guess. It's a very good guess, Steve. Here we go. He thought there was two cyber companies. Look out and even though I know Peter, I've never met Peter Thiel. And everybody says he sort of jumps around and acts really strange, like he's on drugs. Smoking, yeah. Yeah. He wants to go under drugs.
Starting point is 00:53:07 However, he has a company called Palantir, P-A-L-L-E-N. Speller wrong. T-I-E-R, Palant-T-E-R, Palant-T-E-L-E-L-T-E-L-E-R. And look out. Palant-T-L-E-L-E-E-R. P-I-E-L? Yes. How are you I-T-L-E-L-Y?
Starting point is 00:53:24 T-H-I-E-L-L-Y. No. T-H-I-E-L-L-L-L. Okay. It's about the wrong again. So he thought that Peter Buhmer's on the board of Palantier. Peter Thiel is one of the best,
Starting point is 00:53:37 I've never met him. He's going to come here next week. So I wanted to talk to him, if I talk to you. He and Andreessen, it's called Andreson Horowitz. Andresen Horowitz. Andresen Horowitz, they pay Larry a million dollars a year.
Starting point is 00:53:50 just to advise them. And Rias and? A-N-D-R-E-E-S-O-N-R-E-E-S-O-N-R-N-R-S-N and R-O-R-Witz. And how would? H-O-R-O-R-Witz. What they are? It's a lobbyist. What are?
Starting point is 00:54:10 They are the biggest venture capital people in Silicon Valley. But bigger than Sequoia or Clan of Pettists? These are the new climate of president. Americans. Everybody, these are the smart boys. So those two companies right away in terms of, I said that we need count now in the next three weeks if you're going to leave. So that's exactly what it sounds like. And it's interesting because Palantir was obviously founded in the United States in like 0203 with a serious investment from Incutel, which is the VC arm of CIA. and in recent years has been instrumental assisting the Israeli government including in highly controversial things
Starting point is 00:54:58 as it relates to the prosecution of the war in Gaza and it's interesting to me that 11, 12 years ago Jeffrey Epstein is pushing for Barack to get on the board of this thing. That is that part is fascinating So Ahud Barak
Starting point is 00:55:24 Also had an email server leaked I think this is like the end of last summer And the Back and forth between him and Epstein Was dense absurd you might say
Starting point is 00:55:41 Just like fucking crazy And they were working They had businesses together They were working on clients together That's good You know, what do you think they were doing it for? Because they just happened to be two friends that were neighbors. The fucking guy lives across the world.
Starting point is 00:56:00 You know what I mean? He's a Russian spy. He's a Russian spy. That's right. So it gets uncomfortable when you see it get to American companies like that where they're talking about trying to, you know, basically like penetrate it. But there is also nothing more. And, Defe, I don't know if you want to pull up on your computer, J-mail. Give me one second.
Starting point is 00:56:36 We're going to pause for one second. I just want to grab something on my phone. So here's a quick intermission. We'll be right back. All right. We're back. So one guy who I cannot believe has a job today. Like, I actually can't even fathom the fact that he has a job.
Starting point is 00:56:54 and has one of the most important jobs in the country right next to the sitting president of the United States is Howard Lutnik okay Howard Lutnik is the current Secretary of Commerce for Donald Trump all right now I've defended Howard Lutnik on some cases in the past talking with people I'm going to savage him right now because that is what he deserves. He is a liar, a con artist as a result, and by my accounts, therefore, scumbach. Jeffrey Epstein's mansion in New York is 9 East 71st Street. Do you know who lives on the other side of his wall? Who? Howard Lutnik. Nice. Howard Lutnik, and I knew this, purchased that place, which I believe is, I want to say 10 or 11, East 71st Street, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:57:54 shares a wall with Jeffrey Epstein. He purchased that place from Epstein and Les Wexner's Trust in, I believe, 1998. All right? And as far as I know, he still owns it. I do have to say, even the great Leonardo DiCaprio should probably be taken notes from Howard Lutnik on acting. He's an amazing actor, an amazing actor, because Howard Lutnik gave an interview, I believe, this past summer on Pod Force One, fucking podcast on the news. New York Post, whoever named that should be fired. But he gave an interview where he addressed this in, you know, within the past six months. And talks about like the only time he ever spent around Jeffrey Epstein, which allegedly
Starting point is 00:58:41 was like seven years after he's been neighbors with him, which I don't think anyone's buying that. But let me just play what Howard Lutnik says here with a very, very convincing, convincing face. You got it, thief? Yep. Here we go. He opens the door and there's a massage table in the middle of the room and candles all around and stuff. So I ask very insightful cutting questions. I say to him, massage table in the middle of your house. How often you have a massage?
Starting point is 00:59:16 And he says every day and then he like gets like weirdly close to me. And he says, and the right. kind of massage. Now my wife is standing here, so she looks at me, and I look at her and we say, I'm sorry, we have to go. And in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never
Starting point is 00:59:51 be in the world with that disgusting person ever again. ever again. So I was never in the room with him socially for business or even philanthropy. That guy was there. I wasn't going because he's gross. And so I look back at it as a gift. Yes. He gave me a gift of a voice. So yeah, that's my story. A won and absolutely done. Shut the fuck up, Howard. So. That was in 2005 for conduct. Disgusting individual. Notice how his eye, when he went to hit the line of like,
Starting point is 01:00:39 I will never, ever. His eye twitched like that. I just, a lot of little signals there. But anyway, Howard Lutnik lied. We won't bury the lead. This individual was so disgusting, so disgusting. to him. So disgusting. Oh, oh, before I even do this, can I also play this video of Howard? This is Howard a few months ago at the White House when someone asked Trump about Epstein.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Watch him laugh his ass off in the background like a little bitch. Here we go. The two kitchens is very good? Mr. President, is my friends of hosting a gathering of evening to talk about how to the upcoming situation? Is he working on what? He's laughing. I don't know. I could ask you that question. I don't know of it, but I think...
Starting point is 01:01:35 Oh, it's so funny. Here's the man, right here. I saw a reporter today, and it's completely fake news. We're not meeting to talk about the Epstein situation. And I think a reporter he reported needs to get better sources. Look, the whole thing is a hoax. The whole thing is put out by the Democrats, because we've had the most successful six months in the history.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Yeah, go fuck yourself. Such a fucking slap in the face. when he says that. I'm sorry. It's just such a slap in the face and there's no one. It's a bigger slap in the face too than the people that voted for him. So all of you out there, if you voted for him, obviously, this is breaking a promise. Has it been the most successful six months? I don't think so. I mean, I can look objectively at some. No, that's what like I'm actually asking objectively. Like it's just, he's just said shit like that. But for Howard Lutnik could laugh. Yeah, what a scumbag. What a fucking scumpe. I mean, let me use his dramatic to laugh at that disgusting individual. You know, just funny because, you know, when people are remembering over a decade ago, sometimes I'll give them the grace of a year, maybe two years, right?
Starting point is 01:02:47 Sometimes you're a little off. Well, was that 2010? It might have been 2011, right? Sometimes people are a little off. Yeah. Once it gets to like three years, it's like, hmm, I don't know if I'm. I could be that off about three years. Four years?
Starting point is 01:03:04 Five years. Nah. Seven years. To be seven years off. In your recollection of when you decided to stop associating with someone. Yeah, that's past my line. That's really tough, dude. So now that I've been pumping this up and getting this ready to go, also, fuck J.D.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Vance's attitude about it as well. I just want to say that. This is a guy used to openly tweet about the Epstein files and getting transparency there and why everyone's being covered up for. And now he's doing the covering. And I just, I find that abhorrent. They got to stop like sticking to like their stupid little homemade terms to like still calling things fake news in 2024.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Like it's so gay. Yeah. It's so gay. Reminds me of like little like middle schoolers. I agree. So fucking stupid. So this is an email from Howard. Lutnik to Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, howie.
Starting point is 01:04:06 December 19th, 2012. And he said 2005? Over seven years since that alleged massage table walk out. Wow. Hi, Jeff. We are landing in St. Thomas early Saturday afternoon and planning to head over to St. Bart slash Anguila on Monday at some point.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Where are you located, as in what is the exact location for my captain. Does Sunday evening for dinner sound good? I have another couple, Michael and Mary Lerman, with me, on my boat. This is the wow. Whoa. And each of us has four children. Doesn't list their names. I want to point that out. He says two 16s, two 14s, a 13, a 12, and 11, and a 7-year-old. I remind you, this is four years after Jeffrey Epstein was convicted. How this guy has a job today is a disgrace. That is- There is no room.
Starting point is 01:05:13 That's disgusting. For nuance here. No, that is disgusting. Fired! Fired! I'm done with these fucking people. Fire this guy right now. What is your excuse?
Starting point is 01:05:32 He's a liar. Neighbors with this dude. dude. Claims he only ever met him once. Live next to him for 20-some years. That's crazy. Proven liar. Advising the president of the United States every fucking day. I'm so done with these people, man.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Yeah, I'm so fucking done with these people. That is absolutely abhorrent. I'm so fucking done with these people. Um. And we got to, I got to fucking. file taxes in a couple weeks. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:06:24 That one just, that is disgusting, and nothing will be done. That's the thing. He'll have a job. That's a job today. We'll have a job tomorrow. I'll have a job next week. He'll continue advising.
Starting point is 01:06:36 What is the conversation when he's like, hey, I'm about to email Jeff back. You got, you're four. What are their ages? I got a, what are their ages? Like, like, what a fucking weirdo? No names. No names.
Starting point is 01:06:48 If he had put names. No No No No Stacey age 13 Hold on
Starting point is 01:06:55 Hold on If he had put names Maybe Yeah Maybe you could say There's But the just ages It's so weird
Starting point is 01:07:08 And he's his neighbor He knows he got convicted Yeah He knows Yeah you have There's no Like oh wait The guy next door
Starting point is 01:07:19 Yeah I've been here for a year and a half? Dude, that's gossip on the doorstep when the stroller passes by. Like, that's, you know that. He knows. Oh, my God. What a sick fucker.
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Starting point is 01:08:19 times bigger see life and panorama because you're worth it shop lorio paris panorama mascara on amazon now it is just very hard to not be cynical when you now you have it to quote ari gold now you know what actually it's an inappropriate yeah i was gonna say i don't know if you should let me not do that with this topic that's uh i love a rie gold was a great character but that is so beyond the pale for me Oh, yeah. That is. So fuck that guy. Wait, now, I have a question because you brought up how he was so many years off.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Has he, has someone, like, addressed this with him? Like, so no one's even asked the question yet? Oh, dude, I hope that's just a matter of time. I want to see how this fucking dumbass answers that. You better be. And, like, when you got me, like, defending CNN, you have really fucked up. Caitlin Collins was asking, from CNN was asking, she's like the White House press reporter for CNN
Starting point is 01:09:24 was asking Trump about the Epstein files. He just started ripping her as being a miserable person and, you know, working for CNN and pushing a hoax. It's like, guys, are you really going to take this? Yeah, no, people are, dude. Are you really going to take this at this point? You know, like, I fucking, I know people, dude, who are just like, like, who are all in on whatever bullshit
Starting point is 01:09:47 he's selling right now. And I'm just like, you are stupid. You remember like when people would say like hardcore left people would be like, this isn't about hot politics. It's about human rights. And they would openly be talking about some sort of like wild political situation. Yeah, no. This is a lot situation where if they say that, they're right.
Starting point is 01:10:10 They're 100% right. This is not about politics. And, you know, people get very political these days because, the parties have let them down the democrats lost their mind for a fucking decade there still haven't figured it out and it feels really strange when if you're someone who then was like well fuck that and went to the right side i'm sure it's got to feel strange now seeing that like some things over there seem to be patently fucked up but like that's what it is yeah and i've said this for a long time and it's always funny when i when i talk especially to older people who are left or right about
Starting point is 01:10:53 this and it just no matter how smart they are it doesn't clock for them yeah well there's no such thing as a democrat and a republican and hear me that's what i was gonna say i agree okay yeah there are people who have wildly different ideas as to how to arrive at solutions and those ideas objectively if you're going to look at a political spectrum right fall on one side or the other or somewhere in between Yeah. A lot of that has been manufactured by the elites for centuries to get people towards feeling breaking for some of these ideas that they then break for everything that associates with that team, which is what human beings try to be a part of, a team to divide people and distract them from the real things that happen, the things that actually affect their life. Because to quote
Starting point is 01:11:47 Richard Nixon in that famous story I've told a million times that Jimmy Carter tells about when you got got advice from Nixon upon coming to office in 1976. You know, people in Congress, they're just going to move shit five percent one way or five percent the other. It's all bullshit. They fight over health care taxes the same shit. You know, little bit happens, not much. But the foreign policy, that's where you got power.
Starting point is 01:12:09 And his point was, you know, just let me translate that. The things that happen behind closed doors with the men in suits where it doesn't have to go to some fucking public vote, that's where you actually move the needle. And the people that run the world, which are the people in those rooms that include the politicians and the people to pay them, they don't want you to know what they're talking about. And they don't want you to know shit like this. You got a guy from a JEE vacation account sending emails on one day to the ex- Treasury Secretary, the fucking royal family of Norway, three fucking genius physicists
Starting point is 01:12:52 who he funded. And let me defend some people, you know, especially like in the academic realms when people are funding you, you should do some due diligence. They deserve guilt on that. But like,
Starting point is 01:13:08 a lot of people come in and fund you and then they get access. And if you don't do your due diligence, you get caught with your pants down. And maybe some people, by the way, actually are scum bags and were in on some of this shit with them to be clear actually call it with their pants down exactly but then there's other people who you know very well could have been innocent but they're going to have to answer for this for the rest of their life and you know you just
Starting point is 01:13:32 see the connections he had and what he was doing in his emails back and forth of peter tealer wild bro so there's a there's a very interesting email that's so the nonchalance with which geoffrey says this, followed by the nonchalance with which Peter Thiel answers the email was the most telling part to me. Oh, dude. I think he's my top, dude. I think he's my top man that I can't just, I can't even look at that guy, man. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Pull it on up. This is from Sunday, February 28th, 2016, which, by the way, hold on, hold on. This is when Trump was becoming the guy. in the GOP. This is right before the Small Hands Dick debate, which was at the beginning of March. I believe that was March 3rd, 2016. So this is a few days before.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Dude, you and your date. And Peter Teal, Peter Teal ended up being one of Trump's, like his big funder. All right. So he was quote on quote, Jeffrey Epstein. As you probably know,
Starting point is 01:14:42 I represent the Rothschilds. I was hoping to figure out a way for the bank that has 160 billion in management can do something in tech. Best client list in the world, prehistoric products. It can wait. Good luck in China. I'll be in Europe again, the 20th to 28th, then the island. So if you want to come around the world going west, come to the island, or if you would like to meet in Saudi at the end of the month. Peter Thiel casually responds to that same day, eight hours later.
Starting point is 01:15:14 he goes, certainly not in Saudi. Just think I will avoid the Middle East for the next decade or so. Should be back on East Coast in late April or May sometime in New York City or on island then. You know, it's a conspiracy theorist dream. Yeah, this is like Christmas, dude. It's Christmas, film. It's like giving like a fucking junkie, just a fat bag of heroin and being like, dude, we got more where this came from.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Yeah. A lot of people are going to probably overdose on. conspiracy for this. Also, I do have to say in it, but. It feels appropriate. Oh, dude, I saw this. Yeah. Respect.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Picture of Dick Cheney. No blackmailing. No island. Not even in the files. You bomb brown people just for the love of the game. I mean, he just love this shit, dude. Also, one the biggest. Lesson there. Lesson there. There was also a 2002 email
Starting point is 01:16:20 that you do pull up on J-World and it's got redactions on it so it's it's in it is in the files I don't know what this is but the nephew's name is redacted the from does has just words and not an at and it's to Galane Maxwell but her email is redacted here from 2002. Hi, Aunt Geelaine. I hope you are well. I look forward to seeing you. When that might be, however, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:17:03 I'll email you when I'm able to do something with you. As for my, quote, wish list, unquote, of, quote, actresses I'd like to do nasty things to, unquote, which she says that in a way as if she has asked him this already. Though not complete, would probably look something like this. Number one, Natalie Portman, Natalie Portman, number two, possibly Jennifer Love Hewitt, number three, Denise Richards. As for things I'd like to do, whether it be in London, New York, New Mexico, or the Caribbean, not quite sure at all, I will look into it. In New York, besides see the sites, possibly some theater or something of that sort.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Anyway, I've got to run. Thank you very much for offering all these things. All these things only add up to the reason I would be there to see you, your nephew, so-and-so. That's a very suspect email to me, but it's... in the files. What the fuck? Now that could be like a troll email. Or it's not.
Starting point is 01:17:59 And it's like that's just a normal thing to talk about with your nephew. Dude, what the fuck? My wish list of actresses I'd like to do nasty things to. Yeah, but adding up to the reason I would be there to see you. So I wonder if her nephew was banging her too. Yeah, it's real fucked up, dude. Oh, it's biblical. This shit's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:18:20 This shit's been going on. fucking since the beginning of time. Dude, how disgusting is that? The other thing is that I also look this up. You would see in a lot of these emails randomly like an equal C2. Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that before. And I googled it. And apparently it's some sort of coding typo when things are translated.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I don't know. Maybe people can answer in the comments who know more about this. I don't know if that means like when the files were uploaded from the server to the government, it changed certain characters by accident. Oh, yeah. If they did it on their end by accident. Now, that happens to me all the time too when I'm moving like writing through different, like if I move it from Libra office to Google Drive.
Starting point is 01:19:08 So yeah, that makes sense. And the attacks, by the way, the attacks against Thomas Massey by Trump are also disgraceful. Thomas Massey, if you are looking at it from the perspective of someone, who's like judging is someone really a Republican or whatever. Thomas Massey has voted with Republicans 91% of the time. Okay. He is a very what you would call strong conservative. So he could be gotten to quote Thomas Massey, the nine percent in which he hasn't involves covering for pedophiles, elite billionaires, funding foreign wars and deading our nation away. And then he walked off. Mike drop pretty savage. I'm pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:19:50 They put like Led Zeppelin behind it for the walkoff. That was kind of sick. But Trump responded because they're putting, you know, including Mary Madelson, all the very pro-Israel crowd are putting in millions of dollars against him in Kentucky trying to beat him, which I really do think is just going to make him win more. I actually, as someone who dislikes all politicians, I actually help him right about that because this is one of him and Ro Khanna are the two guys really fucking. pushing this and I appreciate that. So I hope the two of them stay in office where they are. But you think the voting's going to be real? Trump's, I don't go there. That's what I'm saying, dude. Like they won't be there. People are saying Trump put out on February 2nd. People are saying that Thomas Massey became a liberal
Starting point is 01:20:38 because his new wife, reminder, Thomas Massey lost his wife a year and a half ago. Jesus Christ, dude. These people are. New wife, blessed be their marriage, is supposedly a radical left Flamethrower, which, by the way, fact check on this, she's voted for Donald Trump three times, just to be clear they did fact check that. This new union all went so fast that maybe he didn't know what he was getting into, but nevertheless, he is an absolutely terrible and unreliable Republican, perhaps a rhino or maybe even worse. Ed Galrain, a farmer and war hero, is running against Massey. He is a high-quality individual and there's no candidate for Congress that would be better.
Starting point is 01:21:12 He's running because he realizes Thomas Massey has been totally disloyal to the president of the United States and Republican Party. He never votes for us. He always goes with Democrats. Massey is a complete and total disaster. We must make sure he loses big. That's a complete lie. This is a complete I feel like It's like such so. I feel like Ryan Stelter Soviet Russia type shit, but like it's actually true like that's a complete lie Objectively you know like Innocent people don't behave like that I know people don't want to hear that no it's a fucking true say it innocent people don't behave like that no uh it's just so funny because like you just
Starting point is 01:22:07 like and then and then they'll say that gavin newsom has no respect you know like it's just it's so funny everyone's lost their ways also this this email i did verify on jmail dot world and oh god what does that mean June 6th, 2011, from Tom Pritzker of the billionaire Pritzker family, one of the richest families in the world, to Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, no. I am in a remote valley of Afghanistan, and then in parentheses, it's my birthday wish. With boys with toys. Oh, my God. Spent time with Petraeus, referring to General Petraeus yesterday, and he loaned me a chopper, actually two with one as a backup.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Can't call till tomorrow. Now, I don't want to believe that that means what I think it means, but we all know it's been well documented in this studio by our friends who are Tier 1 operators in Afghanistan, what goes on in Afghanistan as it relates to young boys. Oh, dude. These people are just saying it on email. By the way, I remind you, even in 2011, actually, way before that, You get sued in a civil case for, you know, a parking meter.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Your email can be discovered and put into a court case. Dude, that is weird. Somewhere Carlo Gambino and Lucky Luciano and Frank fucking Costello are looking to this going, oh my God. Thank God. Like, like, this is why they wouldn't even talk on the phone. They wouldn't be able to do anything now. You know.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Be over. Yeah. And then there was an email that, this was sinister. Jeffrey Epstein sent an email on March 15, 2018 to someone who is redacted. I'm going to actually take a shot on this one. I think he sent this to a hood baroque. All right. I believe he sent this to a hoop baroque.
Starting point is 01:24:27 I have no proof of that. Zero proof. That's strictly speculation. Zero evidence. But I think he sent him. And the subject is he was passed away, meaning like they whack them. Robert Maxwell threatened Mossad Nice
Starting point is 01:24:44 He told them that unless they gave him 400 million euros to save his crumbling empire He would expose all he had done for them In that time And I do want to add here for context Jeffrey is putting quotes around what he's saying here So he is quoting someone Quoting someone, yeah
Starting point is 01:25:03 Yes I have to give him that On this one if we're going to look at it objectives. Okay, straight shooter. In that time, he had free access to Margaret Thatcher's Downing Street, Ronald Reagan's White House, to the Kremlin, and to the corridors of power throughout Europe. Maxwell passed on all the secrets he learned to Mossad in Tel Aviv. In turn, they tolerated his excesses, vanities, and insatiable appetite for a luxurious lifestyle and women. He told his controllers who they should target and how they should do it. He appointed himself as Israel's
Starting point is 01:25:33 unofficial ambassador to the Soviet bloc. It's very interesting that he sends a no-context email with just quotes. No personal context added. He's feeding someone lines. Yes. One of the final emails Jeffrey Epstein sent before he was arrested on, I want to say that was July 7th, 2019, returning from Paris, was an email. He was in constant communication with Steve Bannon, I'm going to get to that in a minute. But look at this email, Dief.
Starting point is 01:26:07 He sent it to him. yourself. You want to read this? Yeah, I'll read this. Mandelson, Barnaby Summers Watson, Axel Botstein, Karim Tergei, Pritzker Edelman, Set Lloyd, Martin Novak Minsky, Tata Suskind, Strominger Cross, Hopkins, Randall, Kozlin, Gardner Gates, Thiel Hoffman Hoysinovsky Sheldrake
Starting point is 01:26:43 Solzberger Gestalé Josabach Jochebach Joy Ito HBJ Burge Miro Anaz Raphah
Starting point is 01:26:54 Sultan Nathan Feigenbaum Rameshadran Goldberg Damachadren by the way You know who that is No
Starting point is 01:27:04 That's Boulon's mentor Oh, wow. Keep going. Goldberg, Damazio, Shristakis, Brockman Hillis, Kaufman, Seligman, Gould, Sacks, John Kerry, George Mitchell, Mandelbrot. Wow, Mandelbrot, dude. Chomsky, Barack, Barack. It's not that Barack.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Two hours. Two hours. Barak and Barack. Zagat. Nathan, Brian Green, Yao, Eow, E. Wilson, Prince Andrews, Jaglan, Clinton, Pastrana, Richardson, Governor, New Mexico, Leahy, Jurekie, Jurekie, Schumer, Reneerie, Waheed, Mongolia, Gambit, Ahood, Jacques Lang, Woody, Allen, Cherkin, Sergey, Google Founder, Rumler, Ruhn, Wyngarden, Amabani, Rothschild, Dershowitz, Dershowitz, Ken Stark,
Starting point is 01:28:07 Carp, Alex Carp, Dubai, Castro, Popal Queen, Press King PM, Mandelson Belier, Mette, Middalfrin, Gergen, Melusinine, Margarita Ovitz, Barack, Mobudo, Khashoggi, Rockefeller. Holy crap. I don't know what it means. Nobody knows what it means, but it's provocative. It gets the people going. The list, just to give you a nice. idea, like a quick kind of image, if you will. Interesting. On J-mail, this is the Steve Bannon list.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Look at how long this is. This is all from 29-526 emails. Wow. And Bannon would just send him. Her threads. 526 threads. One of those threads had 137 emails on it. Yeah, so let me just, I got some highlights. So Bannon sends on March 12th, 2019, he quotes an article, in sex offender pleadial case, White House declines to back Labor Secretary Costa, and then sends the link to the article. And Jeffrey then responds, how do you read it? And Bannon goes like you are trying to make amends, do some good. Bannon on August 19th, 2018, sends an article to Jeffrey Epstein. And he goes, ah, that's more like it. We need you to find the exorcist hat.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Do you think you might want to come to Europe? Bannon responds. Yes, but let's discuss. There is a crazed jihad against you. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen a lot. Jeffrey Epstein goes, yes, no worry. November too important to risk diversion. Mission first. Steve Bannon goes, exactly. What is the mission? And he goes, but somebody big has you in the gun sites.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Steve Bannon, and then there's a bunch of text messages, by the way, that were released. Steve Bannon was, I don't care what you say. He wasn't just using this guy for a documentary or whatever. Steve Bannon was friends with this guy. He was friends with this guy straight up. His connections that go back to him that you can paint all the way of the 80s. I've talked about what Henry Abbott. reported shout out to Henry Abbott reporting this in 2020 and 2021 years ago he had it dead to
Starting point is 01:30:46 rights huge shout out to that guy I have said for years to people and I've really stayed away from this on air I don't like getting involved in the drama but you can attest this thief and Alessie will attest this like crazy alessie by the way has like a three-part series he's dropping on his channel on YouTube Lesi Alamon on Bannon that he's done based off a lot of things that I've discussed with him over the years and then he went in and did all, you know, all the primary sourcing and everything. And, you know, he called me when he was pretty much done. And he's just like, this is the darkest thing I've ever looked at. Because I have told people for years that I think Steve Bannon is the most dangerous known man in America. I've said that. It has nothing to do with his
Starting point is 01:31:32 politics. Nothing to do with his politics. But he is not. media guy. This is this is someone I don't know what or for who I can't really put my finger on it, but this is an intelligence person. 100%. Most of the time, as in 99.999999% of the time when some fucking content creator or commentator is accused of being a spy, they're not. They're all some level of a useful idiot. We all are at some point. Okay. Some just all the time and some once in a while when don't catch it. It's just a part of being in the business. They're not spies, though. Even people that you revile and you're certain are. They're not. Steve Bannon is. I have been clear on this four years. And that was a good take. It's a really good take. Yeah, good one.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Yeah. So he's, I don't, I don't know, he's one guy. I've never been able to say, oh, this, that, yeah, that. But something. You know what I would describe him as? He's a Robert Maxwell type
Starting point is 01:32:47 character. That's how I describe him. Yeah. You know? Doing a lot of work in a lot of places.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yep. For a lot of people. That's how I would describe Steve Ben. So. Yeah, I'm going nuclear.
Starting point is 01:33:01 I don't give a fuck this Patreon. Dude, go fucking new. We're going nuclear on
Starting point is 01:33:06 people who are clearly not on the right side of history here. That's another phrase that's been cringe in the past when people say that. In this case, it is not cringe. This is a very simple thing. You're either calling out dudes who are supporting mass sex trafficking or you're not. And if you're not, gotta help you i feel like this is also a big wake up for just like the average layman
Starting point is 01:33:42 that's the thing like this is like something this is like a thing that is like inherently been happening forever like back to fucking you know king solomon had fucking 700 wives yeah yeah yeah well you're right about i wasn't you know about from that but narrow fucking tiberius Caligula, like this, all these people have been doing the things that all these crazy fuckers have been doing forever since the beginning of time. It's frustrating. I mean, look, we can go on and on about this. There's people we didn't even get to.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Larry Summers, I mentioned him briefly. There's a crazy email about him explaining how the Vatican really works and how the Pope Benedict, when Pope Benedict was stepping down, he's sending this email, Jeffrey Epstein, is not really, you know, it's not really about that. It's tied to the Vatican Bank and how the Vatican Bank basically hides money. for bad people around the world, which is just so casual as the president of Harvard and ex-Tresuary secretary is just like pointing that out a fucking email. I mean, dude, that's like the great schism might be when religion actually got hijacked for that type of shit. Brian Johnson also was on like one email with him and talking about meeting up with him in New York and he's addressed it directly, did it in kind of a bit of an autistic way, saying way too much.
Starting point is 01:35:00 but I think he's trying to rewrite how much he thought Jeffrey was sinister in the 10-minute Zoom meaning they ended up having. But I do think, I do think that, you know, I do believe Brian Johnson. It did because there's no other emails. It sounds like it never went past that and he got connected with him. And one thing he did say is he said it wasn't, he was connected to Jeffrey by some very legitimate people. And he said one thing that wasn't a part of my.
Starting point is 01:35:35 docket at the time was like going on and checking if someone was a registered sex offender. I could see that. I get that. You know, I could see that. It's, it was nine years after he was convicted and I don't think Brian was in those circles as much in like 08. Like he was, you know, not as big. So I could see that. Peter Atia, I don't even want to start on that.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Peter Atia was best friends with this guy. His emails were some that I were certain were fake. when I saw the screenshots and then they were verified. They were all real. Like people have seen that. You can read the articles on it to summarize it. You know, but the thing about Peter Attia is these emails were all 2015, 2016, 2017. The audacity it takes to go on shows like Joe Rogan and that whole network and blow the fuck up, you know, in 2020, 2020, 2021, 22,
Starting point is 01:36:29 on some of the biggest shows in the world that openly discussed this case all the time, knowing that you were good friends with this guy and knowing you got some cringe-ass emails. Huberous, bro. All these fuckers, man. Fubris. Insane. And then the last one I do want to mention before we go,
Starting point is 01:36:47 Bill Gates, there's a crazy email. I saw that one. Actually, yeah. Jeffrey Epstein is talking about some STD that he contracted with some girl, I think on the island, but, you know, with Epstein. And Bill Gates was freaking out
Starting point is 01:37:04 because he was married to Melinda at the time, and he gave it to Melinda. And so he was trying to find some concoction that he could slip in her drink to help fight back against it. And poor Melinda Gates had to, like, respond to this on an interview and was just, like, stunned. And it's just, I can't, I can't keep talking about this. It just, you see how worked up I get? This is such a red line for me. and I don't give a fuck this is this is Democrats Republicans
Starting point is 01:37:38 it's everybody man it's got nothing to do it's even some green party folks bro yeah it's got nothing to do with politics and and it's it's a civilizational threat of a story yeah this is mainstream that is that's the thing if it is allowed to
Starting point is 01:37:55 keep spiraling to more and more layers and things are figured out it's and I'm not being dramatic it's the stuff that if you were able to actually get people like my dad to really lock in and understand it you get enough people to do that you know they should just figure out right they got to figure out a way to like work in stuff to like every Netflix show and it's like oh my fucking mom won't she's just watching real housewives again but then for like six minutes and real housewives all their dialogue they're like wait why are they talking about irshowitz right should look into that sorry i'm trying to know a funny note now dief that's fine with me
Starting point is 01:38:46 i've i think i think we got it i think i think i've had enough but we'll see what keeps coming i know thomas massey and roe connor are pushing for more to come out so yeah let's see if that happens but Next Friday afternoon at 5.30 p.m. They'll come out. Friday after. Wait, when's the next holiday? When's the next long weekend? Always a Friday.
Starting point is 01:39:17 It'll probably be Easter. It'll come out. Always a Friday. All right, everybody. Thank you. We'll see you guys next week. Thank you so much, as always, for watching this episode, guys. Before you leave, if you wouldn't mind hitting that subscribe button,
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