Julian Dorey Podcast - #387 - “FRY Them!” - Julian ERUPTS on Epstein Mossad/CIA, Prince Andrew & Shadow Elite

Episode Date: February 21, 2026

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He could go into a polygraph test, and if someone asked him, do you work for CIA, probably passed by saying no. But it's simply because he's outside of it and now gets to be paid on the outside, just like so many of these guys do, when they quit the job on a Friday where they're making $89,000 at age 35, walk out to Lockheed Martin, where now you add a zero to that. They're making $890,000. Walk back in on Monday with the Lockheed Martin fucking visitors pass and sit right the fuck back down at the desk they were to work in the South Asian Sea fucking intelligence. but now they're doing it for Lockheed Martin who has a government contract with the U.S. And if you want to know why this works, it works because in the United States, if taxpayers could see information where it's like, wait, they, they fucking, some guy with a long title that might be important, but I don't understand as a regular person at CIA is making

$2.7 million this year. Taxpayer money is making some guy too. They'd be like, fuck that. There'd be a revolution. But what's up, everybody? Got to start this show. little different this week. This may be totally unnecessary, but thief, there was a some weird, something weird that happened this morning. I ran it by a few people. Some strange messages. Some strange stuff and you know, I don't think, uh, I don't think it's a problem because people like Tucker Carlson are walking around, but just in case, I just, for the record, want to let everyone know that I absolutely love my life. It is an incredible thing to be in this journey and do what I do. I am happy in my pursuits. I can tell you that I was a

year-round swimmer until age 13. I'm quite proficient at that. I fucking hate kayaks. I do not surf. Ask Danny Jones about that. I don't want to get eaten by a shark, so it will not happen. There is no point in which you will find me in open air situations that involve heights because I don't like heights, okay? I'm not going out there on my own. And no, I don't think. I can fly, nor have I taken any substances of illegal kinds of any sort like PCP that would make me think I could. And finally, the only use I have ever gotten out of a belt is to put it around my waist like a normal person to hold my jeans up or my pants up or whatever.

I have zero plans, nor have I ever experimented with a belt in any other way. So that all said, welcome to the Great Society Show. I am Julian Dory. And I'm Joey Dief. How you done? How you doing? beautiful day out there for everyone. So I'm officially at the point with these Epstein files where I'm sure like many of you, I'm overwhelmed. There are snakes of information, rivers of information,

if you will, with estuaries and jungles and trees and animals and lions and tigers and bears and everything that lead in so many different directions with this guy and where he was in all these different ears that spans across five decades that it's like, whoa. How do you even make sense of it all? Obviously, when this is the third time we're recording one of these episodes, we have 96 minutes already in episode 381, another 91 minutes in episode 384, and now this is going to be episode 387, I believe, so we'll keep going. But when we did the first one, it was like instantaneous, it had just dropped. These are some of the emails that stood out that just proved, like, put it on the page that like, oh, these people were somehow involved or at least around this guy,

whatever, let's try to draw conclusions as best we can or figure out where there's loops where we still need more information. The second episode we did started to get a little more granular with some of the finances and tying together some of the people and the actual banks that they'd be involved with and some of the legacies like a Leon Black that maybe they came from that, you know, was it their family legacy? Was it also their financial like business? legacies that allowed them to do something later that could therefore then bring certain figures together to tie into, let's say, intelligence-related activities. Today, Dief and I were talking this morning and we're like, all right, what the fuck are we going to

talk about? And there were about 70 million things now that we could go through. We have enough to be able to sift through to do the next 30 episodes if we want. So that is like a lot for my brain to process and chew off. So we've tried to just distill it to a few main bullet points. And we're going to riff off that, present evidence. Steve is put together some of the links just so we have that ready to go so that we can go through things. But there's probably also going to be some live link lookups as we come up with stuff in this conversation right here.

But that said, what's up, guys? Three quick things. Number one, if you haven't subscribed, please subscribe. Number two, if you'd like to join our Patreon for early uncensored releases of these episodes. That link is in my description below as well as in the PIN comment. And number three, if you would like to join my clipping community, you can check out the Discord link in my description. I think it is very, very clear at this point that, you know, and frankly, this should have been clear before these files came out. Like, if you're someone like a Whitney Webb who's looked at this case for so long and must be pounding our head against the wall saying,

I fucking told you guys forever, forever, forever. So shout out people like Whitney Webb. Like if there's someone like that, like you knew this already. But this is something that obviously crossed cities, it crossed states, it crossed industries, it crossed control groups, it crossed bureaucracies, across borders, it crossed governments, and it crossed above governments, if you will. I think I heard Tucker Carlson refer to it as what he sees here, I guess, from like a 30,000-foot view in the air, is a Supra government? Is that what he said, Dief? Yeah, super government.

Okay, like S-U-P-R-A? Yeah, supra. Okay. And essentially what he's saying is the people that we view is the most powerful are actually just people who work for people who work for the people that are actually the most powerful, that are completely undecided. And when you see, let's just take one example, one that we've known for a long time, that we didn't need these files to know about at all. When you see like a Robert Maxwell and you chart out his life starting in 1939 when he leaves Europe and goes to Great Britain. And then you look at all the businesses he got involved with, the people he got involved within those businesses, the people he got involved within those businesses, the people. that he sold businesses from, the people he bought businesses from, the people he left businesses

from, and where those businesses end up in hands long after he's dead, it's a giant incest fest. These are people across the world who, in a world of now 8 billion plus people, just a small little teeny handful, this order, if you will, somehow ends up in the boardroom signing all these same papers to pass around like a fucking used condom. All these different companies and not just companies, but things that influence thought. Like, again, with the Robert Maxwell example, when you're talking about peer review related companies, textbook kindergarten through 12th grade related companies, news related companies, these are things that program people, obviously.

So why are all the same people dealing with it? That's really, really, really interesting to me. And I just think if there was ever a time where people could step back and say, you know, even some of the people who didn't have any real evidence to point to, but who were making what we would have term crazy claims, even two years ago, but let alone nine, ten years ago. Even if they didn't have real evidence and it was just like a great guess, I don't care. I have to look at them and I have to say, hey, if I shut down X, Y, or Z, I'm just, you know,

there's a fucking laundry list here, so I'd be listing them all day. If I shut down this, this, or that in the past, I can't even say yet that you're right, but now I can't say you're wrong. So my apologies. Seriously. Like a lot of people out there, especially those of you listen to, who are extremely, if you view yourself as like a level-headed, you know, kind of let's just see what the facts are here person.

Like, you got to give that to people who have been on the train of like, you know, worlds run by satanic pedophiles and shit like that. Like, well, now you're seeing some of it. Now you're seeing that this like supra government involves people who may or may not be into those kinds of things, emphasis on may. Emphasis on R, actually, clearly. You know, I'm sure we'll do an episode where we really break down some of the dark stuff there. But I had an Epstein victim in here yesterday.

And that episode will be coming out. So this episode is coming out on Saturday. We have John Kyriaku coming out on Monday, breaking down all the emails and everything. Hello, I'm John Kyriaku. And I'm here to fuck shit up. Meme Lord. I might as well say now, John Kyriaku, if you haven't seen the John Kyriaku, if you haven't seen the John Kiroaku, whatever they're called, memes like videos where they change his voice all over the

internet, they're very, very entertaining. But John Kriyaku is obviously one of my favorites I've I've ever talked with and just a brilliant guy. So we are going to be breaking down the emails and the money trails. And I don't know, it'll go where he wants it to go, but we'll be doing all that and that will be coming out on, I believe, Monday. So if this came out on Saturday, that one's out on Monday. So we have good stuff coming with this. But back to to the Epstein victim I had in, and you'll hear all about her story. You know, she talked about the horrible things that happened to her, or that she saw as well, or that she knew about with Jeffrey Epstein and the people around him.

But even she was surprised by some of the depth of the darkness seen in these emails. Even she could not point to some of the victims within her orbit that she's aware of who are a part of those who have come forward and bravely called out a guy like Epstein and some of the people around him. Even she could not point to victims in that orbit who were subjected to some of the things that appear to be in these emails. And y'all know what I'm getting at. I mean, it gets really, you can't even like rule out cannibalism technically. I can't say that that definitely happened, but I cannot rule it out. There are, you can go find the emails with keywords and stuff like that. And again, we will do that in a future episode and really, really break that down.

But, you know, she was saying, we don't have anyone who's come forward with that and or things related to that. And what I said to her is I said, yeah, because they're probably all dead. I mean, obviously, like if it's a cannibal situation, unfortunately, of course, they're dead. But some of the other things that are, I don't know, what, I don't even know what you call this stuff, Dief, like, just as bad, almost as bad. Like, it's all just like the worst thing you could ever possibly do. Yeah. So you put your own description on it, but, you know, some of the, say, like, cult-related type things, like really, really cult-related type things, they don't, they don't, those victims publicly don't exist.

And you have to wonder if any of them survived. And so when I keep honing back in on that, that's where it just puts like a lump in your throat because you think about the types of people that guys like Jeffrey Epstein targeted, vulnerable people, certain psychological profiles, certain socioeconomic profiles, children, right? And also beyond children too, young adults who fit certain psychological profiles

or backgrounds as the victim that I brought in, she was a very young adult when she met him, I believe she was like 21. But the darkness of that and the manipulation tactics and the luring in tactics are something that, you know, I'm not an organized religion person, but when you hear people talk about the term satanic, and I don't mean just throwing it around on a meme, I mean the literal, you know, actual definition of it. It is impossible to divorce what we are seeing from that. And you will hear from this victim the types of things she would see in his eyes and the way he would lure him in and lure her in and other people in. And one of the things she did say that I'll give you a little preview on that really just made me sick to my stomach is when Jeffrey would call her and set up some meeting with her, some meeting for her out in Hollywood or something like that, meaning something that he would not be attending with some producer, some director, some agent, like insert whatever here.

he would call her after the meeting and ask her every detail of every single thing that happened and he'd be like manic about it and when she'd say like she didn't do anything with him didn't wasn't forced to hook up with him or anything like that which to be clear would be rape but you know like when when nothing happened of a sexual nature he would be like mad and he'd want to know every detail of why that didn't happen he'd be like mad at her i guess for not doing that because essentially he was mobily trafficking her to someone else, which is just like obviously sick. But I had asked her maybe an hour earlier in the conversation, I'd said something like, strangely, we don't know a fuck ton about Jeffrey Epstein's childhood. Not a lot. We know he

had parents. We know he had a brother. We know grew up in Coney Island. We know, I think he was a college dropout, if I remember correctly, it's all fucking foggy right now. But he didn't finish college. And we know he ended up at Dalton School. But we, you know, we don't know a hell of a lot about what life was like for nine-year-old Jeffrey Epstein. So he could have been one of those monsters who was abused as a kid and then became the monster because of that. But I said, assuming he wasn't, my question to her an hour earlier had been like, assuming he wasn't, where do you think someone learns. Obviously, they would probably have a sick gene to become a monster like this, but where do you think they learned the tactics to be able to pull it off and get what they want? Because like a normal

person, a normal person who's into normal things, might, you might like, as you would, like a regular woman and you want to find someone to marry, but you might have no gain. Right? So the same thing is, unfortunately, and I don't want to refer to it as game, but like in order to do these types of things, you have to be able to psychologically control vulnerable people and pull them in with trust to abuse them. And so I was asking her, like, where that comes from? And she's like, I don't know. I mean, it's like an impossible question, to be fair. But when she was telling me about these phone calls that she would get after these meetings he would set up and him trying to get every detail. I said, you know what? I think it's clocking for me. She's like, what do you mean?

And said, this is, this is an unfortunate parallel to make, but just bear with me. I was like, this guy wanted to know every detail because he was studying. Just like Bill Belichick studied tape in the NFL to know every goddamn thing. And he and Tom Brady would sit in there and study defenses all day so that they be best prepared to be able to, fucking manipulate the defenses. Jeffrey Epstein would call all his many victims, and when he'd be sending them to other people, he'd want to know what worked and what didn't. That's the level of depravity, psychological manipulation, and sadistic, sociopathic,

like, what do you even call it, like sociopathic? It's like Machiavellian. Yeah, Machiavellian, like genius to just depravity that he had. It also made me think, too, like, that was, I was like, well, he's a spy. There you go. I mean, if you send them to a director, you ask all these questions, it's to get intel. It's just, it was so clear. Yeah.

I completely agree, Deve. And actually, this one right here, can we put up that first link on this? Yeah, you got it right there. It's just like, right on that note, Dave, perfectly on cue. We're sitting here while fucking new battleship destroyers are being. put into the areas surrounding Iran. Biggest movement since 2003. Biggest movement since 2003.

Yep. Right at a time where this story is blowing up the internet and it is a crisis point for pretty much everyone in government, bureaucracy, any position of power, regardless of party or affiliation. It's a problem for everyone. You know, just convenient that, you know, we're going to be hitting Iran and there's an email right here. Can we click that email?

Yep. Dief, this is from 2013, Jeffrey Epstein, to Ahud Barak. Nice. Former Prime Minister of Israel. Sure, we'll have a full episode on him at some point. This is from September 1st, 2013. Hopefully someone suggests getting authorization now for Iran. The Congress would do it.

The Congress would do it. Very interesting. One of the few play of Barack Obama's foreign policy was fucking putrid. One of the few places where it was somewhat okay is that he didn't just do anything that Israel asked him to do. Very, very interesting. The, I don't know, nonchalance of something like that. Now, obviously it didn't end up happening. Yeah. But he was pretty confident. Yeah, it was a suggestion. Ah, you know what I'd do. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I also want to clarify one thing here. you know what actually before we clarify some of the intelligence connections because i think that's a long

conversation sorry to blue balls everyone right there we will come right back to that again as we record this now on what Thursday evening yeah Howard lutnik still has a job i just wanted to you do this is like the letnik counter called that called it called it and you know some of this information that we uncovered in the emails just confirmed some things other things were entirely obvious the whole fucking time. And this is a guy who, after he lost 600 and some people at Kenneth Fitzgerald in 9-11, including his brother Gary, who was in the tower that day, he took 35 million of the payout they got on this for himself instead of for the employees. And what's even worse is that, and this is what I mean just with

how incestuous shit gets. He has a brother, Howard Lutnik had a brother, and he has a sister. I believe, someone checked that for me, actually. I should know that off the top of my head, but I believe that's exactly, Dief, maybe you can check that, that's exactly what he had. And obviously his brother, Gary, is deceased. His sister Eadie, though, is very much alive. And Eadie was one of the founding members of, was it the board, Dief?

Edie Lutnik. It was a founding citizen of, that's just what they referred to it, a founding citizen of Terramar, which was the nonprofit organization established and run by Gied Len Maxwell. This was like her post-Jephyry Conviction Project that she was doing as she realized he was never going to marry her because she was about 30 years too old at that point and, you know, wanted to get on with the second part of her life, which included attending Clinton weddings. We're going to get to that in a minute, by the way.

But, you know, I don't know if you. guys ever saw. Gielen gave a TED talk. I watched this maybe two years ago. It's real. Like, maybe I don't even know if it's still available online. It probably is. But she legit gave a TED talk about this fucking Terramar project that had to deal with like unused oceans or oceans where there's like, I don't even remember. It was like oceans where there's no jurisdiction or something like that. Something that was like very Atlantean fucking, you know, NWO, if you will. Yes, it's still up. Oh my God. It's real. June 6th, 2014. On the D-Day. anniversary 70 years to today that's uh wow i guess that was in remembrance of her father

or something because he served into war jesus but yeah i i don't even want to give this a second of playtime it is as brain damaging as you think it is that's the funny thing about people like this obviously they unfortunately in some cases are intelligent people but even the intelligence they they may have a lot of the times they overest the still kind of charlatans in a way. Like an intellectual charlatan. Couldn't say it better myself. Yeah. That's perfectly put.

But like, why is the guy's sister on the board of that? Why does he reside at 11 East 71st Street on the other side of the wall from Jeffrey Epstein for at least 14 years and own the place for 21 years of Jeffrey Epstein's life? Why is he standing right next to the president as the Commerce Secretary? Why was he the head of the transition team? Why was he the guy that was late to work on 9-11? I do have to journalistically at least say like his brother. did die in the towers and he was extremely close to his brother and I got to assume he wouldn't

have just let that happen. So maybe there's not a there on that one thing, but everything else there is. Why is he taking the biggest payout afterwards? You know? I want to correct George Carlin, actually. Love the late great George Carlin. But he said it's a big club and you're not in it. You ain't in it. That's the direct quote, right, Thief? Yep. It's a little club and you ain't in. George was 100% on target, by the way. I'm just, I'm changing the optics of it because it's a very little club.

So much so that brothers and sisters, you gotta be blood relative to be in it. And Edy has now, I'm gonna look at this one minute, good fine thief. Eadie has now also like deleted that tweet connecting her to Tara Marr. That's so funny that like people,

these fucking boomers think they can just delete tweets now after it's already all out. Yep. And they're gonna be like, oh, no, nothing happened. You can archive.i.s it, though. So anyway, Dief, what are we got? Well, this is, because you were bringing that up and then I remember seeing this the other day,

but it's a video of Lutnik laughing nervously while Trump describes how he miraculously survived 9-11. Yeah, can you actually play this and let's give it some audio? I did see this. It's very weird. I have met, I do want to say I have met people in my life who are constant nervous. nervous laughers, right? Like, I do it sometimes. We all do it. Almost everyone I know does it.

This guy seems to do it every fucking time something related to Epstein, Israel, or 9-11 comes up. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. No, he does. All right, run it, thief. All right. He's really been great. And Howard has been one of the great companies, Cantor Fitzgerald. It was wiped out, completely wiped out, other than a few people left in Europe. And he rebuilt the company. into a bigger, better company. Canterfichard is one of the most, absolutely one of the top companies on Wall Street stocks, bonds, trading.

And he took that, I mean, he literally watched the plane going to the building, going to the World Trade Center. Amazing story. That alone is amazing story. He was delayed because his wife insisted that he finally, after years, take his child to school.

Can we make that full school? So he took his child to school, that one step by step over year, that alone is a. amazing story. He was delayed because his wife insisted that he finally, after years, take his child to school. So he took his child to school that one day, because normally he would have been in the building at 6 o'clock in the morning. That's that business, right? So you owe your wife a lot of your child. But his wife insisted that he take his child to school. For five years,

he didn't do it. He was horrible. What kind of a father was he okay on? All right, that's enough. I can't watch it. And you know, Howard Lutnik was viewed just in general parlance. I can attest this from the little bit that I worked on Wall Street, out of college, he was viewed as a Wall Street legend for somehow saving that company and making it successful after they basically lost the whole company that day on 9-11.

We obviously know there was more to that story. But his story was also, that's what's so sad, his story was really inspirational too. That's the saddest part, Defe. That's how I draw it up. I'm going to fabricate this shit. I'm going to write a banger. We fucking defied the odds.

I'm a Phoenix rising from the ashes. Literally. Yeah. So he lost both his parents, I believe, when he was headed to college in that area when he was 18. I knew this story years ago. I was always like, wow, it's really impressive. But he essentially had to become the guard.

guardian for his brother and sister. And they, I believe they were both younger. The brother definitely was. And so he looked after them and I forget someone paid or helped them fun being able to go to Haverford College. And he got through that and then rose his way up through Wall Street and built his own company and, you know, then had the whole 9-11 thing happen and lost his brother and somehow kept the company alive and became a billionaire. And you're like, wow, you know, let's make a movie about that fucking pursuit of happiness part two how we're lutting and then you see some of the details so we'll keep checking on howie to see when you know he and whatever his type is you know his his elite scumbaggery decides to step down but nothing yet

yeah nothing yet now there was also a video that dropped this week that made me fucking sick to my stomach of epstein's former butler alfredo Did I get the name right? Yeah, Alfredo. Okay. All right. Can you pause that real fast? Absolutely.

Let's get some volume on this. But before we do, I'll just give a little bit of context. Epstein's former butler in 2009, after he had approached the FBI in 2007, again, that's when the Epstein case in Palm Beach is going on and is like going through the court process and all that stuff where there were 43 known victims on record. He ended up copping to one that was 17 when pretty much all the victims, by the way, were 12, 13, and 14. Neither here nor there. It's a whole other rabbit hole. But like this guy, Alfredo, the butler, came forward and said like, yo, this guy has insane contacts. There's always these underage women with braces around, all this different stuff.

And nobody listened. So then, fast forward to 2009. I believe Jeffrey is now in prison, huge quotation air quotes there. you know, because we know he had a very special setup with all that. But not only did the FBI not take his claims farther, but they actually did a sting because Alfredo tried to, and I won't defend this part. You know, he was trying to sell the black book at this point

after he wasn't listened to on what it was. So he got possession of Epstein's book of contacts with all these people and all these numbers and everything where you had things like fucking RFK had like 11 contacts in there for him and his wife, which I don't know anyone in my life that I have 11 contacts for. Maybe I don't know anyone rich enough to have 11 contacts. Neither here nor there. But like millions of different people in this book, not millions, but you get the point. This guy comes forward to or to try to get it through. They don't listen. So then he says, I'm going to try to sell this for 50 grand. So the FBI goes, well, now we have an opportunity.

And they set up a sting on camera. So they go after. him criminal, they get him in an undercover sting criminally for trying to sell this book and then don't even try to prosecute what's in the book. So let's run the tape so people hear this. The beginning of it's like a little like, okay, what's going on? And then you'll hear it gets to like some serious shit. So let's run it. Come on it.

Come on in. This was released in the file. So he claims the book contains contacts, the powerful people and that's... I was supposed to leave this on every plane. So the FBI agent is posing as a lawyer, and he's going through details and young girls exploited. Naked girls from Sweden, from Romania, with Czech of Slovakia, from all young girls, very young. But when you see very young, now, the other people... 16, 17.

They were teenagers. They had braces. Younger than that, though? Younger than that, though? Yeah. Yeah. He'd take them to ice cream parlors or movies. I'm translating a bit here because it's low.

He's referring to them as babies. And then the computer thinks that. Very powerful lady referring to Glenn. She would go to the eastern block countries in Europe and find girls reps. I went with my wife. They used to have a computer so bad. They used to have a borderline to go because they used to download pictures like that. So fast.

All right. I pause it right there. That's enough to do you. So like they had it back then and he's referring to the 2000s of computers so good that they would download all these pictures and he goes on to say like that it would be the worst things. It would be naked girls, emphasis on girls. that they would then sit there at Guilene and Jeffrey and be like, oh, and start to pick out what body parts they liked. Like they were total pieces of meat, which is how these disgusting people viewed them.

And the computer was so powerful that it had, what do you say, like a water cooler to fucking, like some sort of machine to keep it cool at all times. and they just they didn't care that Alfredo could see that. It wasn't, he liked to do that. You're going to hear that from the Epstein victim that we had in. The things, the little secrets he would tell her, the rooms he would take her to that had nothing to do with the abuse where he just like flex and show her what he had. Like when he took her to the central command room with all the cameras in his New York house,

like, hey, look at this. Here's all the cameras. And she said it was a little smaller than that. this room right here. This room is 14 and a half by 18 feet. So I said what? 12 by 15. She's like, I don't know numbers, but a little smaller than this. I was like, well, it's a pretty fucking sizable room to have, say, 30 screens or something like that on it of different camera angles. And this doesn't include all the pen cams, all the book cams, all the microcams, all the stuff that was probably 30 years, 20 years ahead of its time. Which, by the way, did you see the email

deef that he was like meeting with the head of DARPA while she was the head of DARPA. Oh, this one. That was a real thing. I'm sure Danny Jones perked up when he saw that. Yeah. He met with Regina. He had a meeting with Regina Dugan in July, 2011, while she was the head of DARPA,

which is the preeminent defense weaponry research laboratory intelligence agency in the United States that was fucking telepathically talking to dolphins in 1991, if Annie Jacobson is to be believed. And it seems very possible to me. So, like, you know, the guy, the guy was a revolving door everywhere. And this gets to the greater point on the links. Okay. You heard me talk about, especially a couple weeks ago in episode 381, you heard me talk about the Mossad CIA kind of linear transatl. transition, if you will, there. And I want to, I want to do a couple things here. I want to clarify to

make that whole thing clear. And I also want to open my mind to all the possibilities here, which is something that I think it's very important we do with this case because we are discovering so much and so much information has not even been disseminated yet, including, by the way, well, 9-11 related stuff. And I know Dief found some interesting data that was floating around on that. Yeah, good luck, fine, in it, pal. going to come to that. But, you know, meaning there's a lot to go through here. So as new information comes in, I do pride myself on being like, okay, if I have better evidence than my previous evidence, then I will change my opinion. I've been like that since episode one of my show.

That's how I will stay. And if I don't, you guys can check me on that in the comments for sure. But Jeffrey Epstein's like fixer genesis can reasonably be traced back to the years right after the Iranian revolution because it lines up with him leaving Bear Stearns in around 1981. He was at Bear Stearns, which was that Bear Stearns was like the of the major. investment banks, it was the one that was created as like the Jewish investment bank where they were at, it was a WASP club at first and they weren't allowed in. So they made Bear Stearns and obviously like Ace Greenberg who ran Bear Stearns was a very famous guy and a huge funder of Israel and Israeli pro-Israeli causes and stuff like that. So it was obviously like a lot of people from that background and a lot of very what I'm really getting at is like a lot of pro-Zionist people because I do

think one of the things that drives me nuts in the conversations we have here about all this stuff is the lack of like separating a government and an ideology from like an entire group of people and it's something we fail at all over the place it's not just with Israel and stuff like that I've fallen short of it referring to other countries sometimes and things like that but like we need to be clear when we're referring to like the israeli government and associated sources with that which includes anything that's like a very hardcore pro-zionist group and we need to separate that from like the entire group of jewish people i have a lot of jewish friends who don't fuck with israel at all they're born in america they love america that's what it is there is a percentage of maybe

american jews who are very pro-israel and perhaps more pro-israel than pro-america That I will call out all day. I have and I will continue to do so. I gave the example in episode 381 about my own ethnic background. If we went to war with Italy tomorrow, I'd be fucking fighting for America. No questions asked. It is what it is. Right. I got family in Italy. I've lived in Italy. I love the country. I culturally fucking associate myself with it in the customs and it's on both sides of my family. I mentioned obviously I'm like half Irish too. I never really identify with that side. No offense. But like that's what it is. And so, So when you see people that wouldn't be like that, I do have an issue with that.

So I always try to separate that part of it. But there is no doubt. And I was actually talking with a Jewish guy today about this who was going through this with me. He's like, there's no doubt that there were hardcore pro-Israeli links within Bear Stearns for sure, which is where Jeffrey Epstein ends up as a fucking non-college graduate working at a goddamn high school. And by the way, reports are he would like go to the parties that the high schoolers would have at Dalton as a teacher when he was like 22, 23. Just like the creepiness is out of control. But he leaves Bear Stearns. And there is some irrefutable evidence, including fake passports that were recovered under, I don't even remember the name that, you know, had his picture on it and everything that clearly came from intelligence sources.

that connect him to, God damn it, Dief, why do I forget it? The arms deal in 1981 with Saudi Arabia. Can you type in Saudi Arabia arms deal, Khashoggi, 1981? Al-Yamini, Al-Yamana. What's it called? It just says the Oaxo. The Oaxiel.

Damn it. Al-Iamama. That's it. The Al-Yamama arms deal. So Epstein, this is where, and I'm not going to go too far. this rabbit hole right now because that's an entire episode, especially the Adnan Keshoggi thing. We've talked about that on the podcast in the past. I don't want to go too far. But essentially Epstein was traveling with this fake passport through all the countries in between Britain and

Saudi Arabia during this time lining up with all the major deal points that occurred to be able to get this through. So clearly, at the very least early on, after leaving Bear Stearns and having those connections, he has become an intelligence-related international fixer. And then you can get into like the rabbit hole of like a RAN-Contra and stuff like that. I think it's reasonable that on the surface you could say, all right, he's not technically associated with anyone like on the surface at the time. But to me, looking at the manipulation here, yeah, I think it's probably associated already with him operating as a fixer as like eyes on the ground for Massad. Now, if that then comes into overlap already at this point with elements at CIA,

I am open to that argument. Because we know CIA has, you know, in the matter of Epstein, just in general, at some point, there's an unholy alliance that occurs there for sure. You're not getting meetings with the head of DARPA. If that's not the case, sorry. Right. So we know that happens. It's just a matter of when because my position has been at least for like, I don't know, general understanding at CIA. I'll explain that in a minute. My position has been that he was Mossad for a very long time and operated with impunity and on U.S. soil and did all these things. And at some point, if I were a betting man, I'd say probably late 90s. CIA and more than one person over there figured out that whole. Holy shit. There's this fucking horrible pedo dude who's involved in arms deals and money laundering and all this different shit tied to all this different shit that's happened in the past operating with impunity on our fucking soil. And oh my God, he's got to he's going to the Clinton White House more on them soon.

Fucking 18 times that we know of officially during the 90s so clearly. Like that in a relationship there. He's got dirt on so many important people across culture, bureaucracy. power elites, whatever you want to say already. Oh my God, we can't stop this from, uh-huh, but we, like, we, fuck, we missed. Well, I guess we'll at least have them pay attacks and get information. That's how I always looked at it. And so they made the deal with the devil, quite literally, and collected information for a while. And now they are complicit, period, end of story. I am open to the idea that there was some compartmentalized, from what I can see, complicity even earlier than that, though. And there were people in the know. Let's give a parallel example here.

When John F. Kennedy was whacked in broad daylight by people associated with the Pentagon, people associated. By Harvey Oswald. Oh, you're a solo shooter. Hey, man. It was Lee. I knew there was something off about you. I knew you weren't playing for it.

I got a couple others, but that's the big one. That's right. That's right. He's obviously kidding. But like, you know, you have people like General Curtis LeMay. And then you have at the time shadow government people like Alan Dulles who had been fired as the head of CIA, but was operating a shadow CIA, if you will, from his Georgetown fucking brownstone. Devil's Chess Board by Talbot's a great book. You guys should read that. But I cite that all the time. It's very well detailed in there. But like that, that type of thing. we say therefore the U.S. government or we say terms like CIA or Pentagon or CIA and Pentagon killed JFK, which it is true in that case, in my opinion. But like, let's just use round numbers. Let's say 100,000 people are working at each of those places.

So 200,000 people working at CIA and Pentagon. It's reasonable to say that fucking 199,900,000 and maybe 55 of them didn't know anything about that happening, which is in no way. to excuse that it happened. I'm saying if you're even like a serious person at some other desk that wasn't involved with that and you didn't know about it, you have no information on it. You have no idea that like Dulles and Lame just did this thing. So it could be a very similar thing because of how compartmentalized government and bureaucracies and espionage agencies especially work. It could be a reasonable thing to say that when things are happening, say in the 1980s,

I'll just use that example, with Jeffrey Epstein, where he's a middleman, fixer in some of these money laundering, arms trafficking, government dealing, etc., sex trafficking, whatever it may be type things, probably all the above. It's very reasonable to say that he could have only been known to a few people, a few people who made the devils do within, say, CIA or something like that, which makes the organization complicit. That's just how it works. Too bad guys, right? But that could be how it went down. And that could be why. he was then able to operate with impunity for so long where people didn't know. And perhaps my theory, which is all it is, and I've said that.

It's just like trying to read the T-leys. My theory of like eventually it becomes massively known at CIA that like, holy shit, this guy working for another government is doing all this shit on our soil. And they go, well, let's make a deal with them because we can't do anything about it. It's possible that that could have taken a while to happen. I don't know. But I think I think it's important to clarify. that because we're seeing in these emails everything from meeting with Regina while she's the fucking head of DARPA to now Epstein was getting his fucking places wired by the UN Security Council for Israel through a hood Barack in 2016 where they're doing all of his personal security and cameras on it can we pull up those emails so I don't mess this up I probably saw them doing this when I first moved into the city

That was my year. He lived like right there. And I was in the Upper East. Yeah. A Hood's apartment. Yeah, Dief was walking by going, nice job, fellas. I'm like, what are they doing here? Shabbat Shalom.

I'm like, what the hell? Yeah. They're like, nothing to see. I was like, I gotta get to class. All right, we got it. So this is from Mario Norfolk, which shout out to Mario and I would imagine his team because he tweets so fucking much. There's no way it's just Mario.

But shout out to them for amalgamating. a lot of stuff with these emails. There's been a lot of good tidbits that then I'll see and I'll be like, oh shit, I was just looking at these other two things. And that's like the third piece. But this was tweeted a day or two ago. Israeli government installed security systems at Epstein's Manhattan building where he housed underage models,

which that was a whole thing as well. We've talked about that before. Absolutely disgusting. Starting in 2016, Israeli mission to the UN coordinated with Epstein's staff to install alarms, sensors, surveillance equipment. Rafi Shlomo, head of, who definitely works for Russia, head of security for former Israeli Prime Minister Ahud Barak, personally controlled access to the apartment, did background checks on cleaners, remotely disabled alarms when people needed to enter. Epstein personally approved it all, quote, Jeffrey says he does not mind holes in the walls,

unquote. That's not creepy at all. This went on for years. Israeli officials coordinated with Epstein's assistance about who could enter, quote, Ahud's apartment with their house and all these underage girls. Why is a former, like Ahud Barak was an Israeli special forces dude. Yeah. Who's like literally cited in the movie Munich, which I fucking love that movie. It's a great movie. But, you know, this is a movie about like fucking Mossad hit squads and whatever.

That's based. They say it's not a true story. It's based on a true story. They did delete the Lilyhammer affair in there, though. They didn't put that one in there. But there's like even a scene where they go to do this fucking hit in Lebanon. I think it was in Lebanon where, you know, they come in disguised off the, off the Mediterranean. And a bunch of Israeli hitmen were dressed as like women and then killed the whole security.

And when they're done, like some of the teams are meeting each other for the first time. And one guy shakes another guy's hand. He goes, he goes, uh, I'm right. Raffi Shlama or whatever. It's just the name I saw right there and he goes, Ahud Barak. Oh, Barak. Daniel. Like, literally, like, he's, he's been around forever.

He's a guy who then rose through the Israeli government, eventually became prime minister after Benjamin Netanyahu in 1999. I believe he served from 99 to 02 or 01. And he's been the defense minister heavily, heavily, heavily involved. And it's his apartment in New York. on American soil, by the way, where they're housing underage women. I believe this was on 66th Street Thief. I'm trying to remember that off the top of my head,

but it was about five blocks, half blocks. Those are half blocks going that way, I believe, from where Epstein's apartment is on East 71st Street. Yeah, 71st. Yeah. So can I read the email? Yeah, which one? Start at this first one?

Yeah. Just so people understand. All right. So first one, Neely Priseli, Barack, so I guess that's Preel Barak. I guess that's his wife. I don't know that for sure, but her last name is Brock. On January 15, 2016, hi, today the technician paid a visit to the apartment concerning the alarm. We persuaded him not to have any cables at all. He will put, I repeat, put near the two TV devices keypad, which will connect to the electricity and the router

as the TV cables do. Then there will be six sensors stick to the windows. They can neutralize the system from afar before you need someone to enter the apartment, the only thing to do is call Rafi from the consulate and let him know who and when is entering and he will neutralize it for the time necessary. Is it okay? Have you any questions? Would you like to talk with the technician or with Rafi? Neely. And then from, no, go back, T, sorry, I want to read the top email. This is from redacted. That's interesting. I didn't notice that. The first. first time. You don't need AI agents, which may sound weird coming from Service Now, the leader in AI agents. The truth is, AI agents need you. Sure, they'll process, predict, even get work done

autonomously. But they don't dream, read a room, rally a team, and they certainly don't have shower thoughts, pivotal hallway chats, or big ideas. People do. And people, when given the best AI platform, they're freed up to do the fulfilling work they want to do. To see how ServiceNow puts AI to work for people, visit service now.com. Because you would think it'd be Leslie Groff, but it's obviously not. Jeffrey says he does not mind holes in the walls, and this is all just fine, exclamation point. I don't think it will be a problem to make a call to Rafi before entering how much advance notice does he need. I will be sure to tell Karina and Tess, as they are the ones that normally go in.

And then the next email, Dief. So there's an email that says... This is a year later. it looks like. Yeah, in 2017. So this is just more contact where someone emails Jeffrey and says, Rafi, the head of a hood security who brought, is asking if I can go to meet him at 4 p.m. on Tuesday, the 14th at his office,

800 Second Avenue and 42nd. Regarding a hood's apartment. There it is. I asked what it is he needs and said that he just needs to meet with the person in charge of the apartment over there and about the going in and out of maids. etc. He was not very specific, just said they're doing some reshuffling themselves. Jeffrey Epstein responds himself. Yes, no problem. So the boss gave the approval on hitting that. So the ties are there. Again, we'll do an episode really going into the Baroque ties and all that. But those ties

are very clearly there. But even to relate it again back to Maxwell, who I remind you after he died was unalived in my opinion in 1991 his body was taken to Israel given a state funeral buried on the Mount of Olives

which is reserved for the highest rabbis and the highest members of state this is a guy who in the media at the time had left a 400 million dollar plus fucking pension scam that's at least what they said noble you know noble

and you know he's buried with state honors with, I believe, like an ex-prime minister or sitting prime minister. These are important people from Israel attending it. But Robert Maxwell, clearly, that's where the most work was going towards. We can see that. But he did also in his life, and we know this, provide information for the MI6 in the UK and provide information for the KGB in the Soviet Union. These are covered history.

Like this really happened. So why is he doing that? Is it all strictly to be like just a double agent trying to get information off them while he feeds them shit? Or was he really also giving them some real shit? And was that approved by Israel? Or is he just like an agent for a lot of different people? And he just, you know, he's Jewish. So he leans towards Mossad. And that was the most important one to him. Possible. It's all on the table. I mean, I have to, even when we look at things and narratives are like, hey, definitely seems that way. You technically, journalistically, like if you're going to be responsible, you have to present all of it and say, I guess this is possibility. I guess that is a possibility. But as I told the guy I was on the phone with before this episode, he was making a case on something entirely different

where he, I won't even get into it because it's a whole rabbit hole. But he made this case. It was like, I mean, if he were a defense attorney, I'd be like, club don't fit. You're right, innocent. But I said, do you see how that is like pulling,

at a million threads where a lot of the same things have to go right or fall into place for that story to be true. Whereas the opposite story needs about one thing to be true and you know, we have unlimited evidence of that being true. Therefore, it's like you're fighting that one percent cause. It's not David versus Goliath. It's fucking an aunt versus Goliath. I think that got upstairs for him a little bit when I said that, but I guess we'll find out if I bring them on the podcast. That said, you know, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, usually duck. Jeffrey Epstein clearly doing work for Mossad. Clearly at some point doing work for CIA, the question is that that lane could have

happened very early or later or perhaps I'm open to it, both. I don't know. another thing people have said about this and I understand why you say this it's been a common comment especially on that like funny video we posted where I was talking about was just fucking whack the guy back in the day yeah you know people are like oh this guy doesn't understand CIA equals Mossad massad equals CIA I don't think that's true hear me out on this there's no doubt that when you look at the director of CIA which is a political appointee a political appointee appointed by politicians who, you know, often take money from

APEC in the Israel lobby. Oftentimes in those situations, you will see a Mike Pompeo or someone who is very hardcore pro-Israel who will do things such as allegedly, reportedly, according to, I think it was a 2021 Yahoo report, if I remember correctly, try to order things like sending in an assassin team to kill Julian Assange while he was in the Ecuadorian embassy in the UK, the UK being an ally and him trying to do this covertly in another foreign country's fucking embassy, which is supposed to be a safe zone, because Julian Assange was not exactly, you know, he definitely wasn't useful to the U.S. government and fairness to Pompeo, but he also was not a guy useful for Israeli means.

And you see stuff like that. And you're like, okay, well. And then Mike Pompeo always tweets out that Israel is a right to defend itself. I must support Israel at all costs. Takes a trip there every fucking month, all that shit. You know, it's like, all right. People like that, I could see where people then make the argument, like one equals the other. I also do know that there are not only credible reports.

There's written history of where the two share a lot of, or let me restate that. The United States shares information with Mossad. I'm not sure how much comes back in our direction, to be frank on that. But let's give them credit. Let's say there's some that does. and there is some sort of begrudged working together. And that's where I want to get to the point here. Emphasis on the word begrudged.

Whenever I bring on any of these intel guys or whenever I talk to one that I get connected to, who doesn't come on the podcast or something like that. First of all, I much prefer the people that will come on the podcast because they can sit right here on the camera in front of you and you guys can look at them, hear everything they have. have to say just like I do and judge them accordingly. It's like shining a light on the glow in the dark. And so when people are like, whoa, what do you bring on some of these juice? That's exactly why I do it.

It's on the record. You can hear where there's propaganda. You can hear where this shit that's maybe not. And you can hear everything in between. And there's some guys that are much more than others. And I'll let you guys be the judge of that. Right. And then we'll have on the dudes like John Kirooku, who I love, who's like a total dissident and was in that world. And we know the whole story there and was like, yeah, what the fuck? You know, so I like doing that so that you guys have insight into that. But I'm under no illusion, for example, that like a friend of mine, Andrew Bustamante, I have no doubt Andrew Bustamante does private contract work and probably still works in intelligence for the United States. He could go into a polygraph test and if someone

asked him, do you work for CIA? Probably pass by saying no. But it's simply because he's outside of it and now gets to be paid on the outside, just like so many of these guys do when they quit the job on a where they're making $89,000 at age 35, walk out to Lockheed Martin where now you add a zero to that. They're making $890,000. Walk back in on Monday with the Lockheed Martin fucking visitors pass and sit right the fuck back down at the desk they were to work in the South Asian Sea fucking intelligence, but now they're doing it for Lockheed Martin who has a government contract with the U.S. And if you want to know why this works, it works because in the United States, if taxpayers could see information where it's like, wait, they do fucking

some guy with a long title that might be important, but I don't understand as a regular person at CIA is making $2.7 million this year, taxpayer money's making some guy too. They'd be like, fuck that. There'd be a revolution. But if you don't know that Lockheed Martin is just being paid a billion dollars in defense contracting or whatever, and you don't realize the fucking 800 million of it, it's just going to salary for guys who left Langley on a Friday and came back on a Monday just so they could out at zero to the end of it with a little bonus at the end of the year too. Well, voila. Now, now you actually have a real, I don't know, like form of money laundering way. And I find it very interesting. And I've talked to Andy about this. It's like Andy pisses a lot of people off and I totally understand why. There's some things he says. I'm like, come on.

And there's other things he says where I'm like, that's, that might be a hard truth. Right. And it's a mix. And it is what it is. Also more on that later. Because I mentioned I was going to do something on Instagram and I want to put that on. on the record here as well before. So make sure I don't forget that about the... Where you're going. Yeah. At the end, I'll do that. But, you know, with Andy, I remember the first times I was recording with him, I got connected to him through Danny Jones in March 22. And then he came up to my parents' house to record the first one, episode 97, in April 2020. I put it out two weeks later. And that time, and then the next time he was... there on June 30th to do episode 107, which came out on July 7, 2022.

Both times, one, like, one of the things he talked about before we went on air that he really wanted to talk about was the movement of intelligence from government to private through government. And it was like the ultimate projection to me. And that's why I always said off camera, but then particularly on camera, I'm like, you still fucking, you work for them, you son of a bitch. So like, you know, if that is the case, and I, I still believe it is.

You have thousands of hours of him now online on all different kinds of podcasts, spewing whatever he does, right, wrong or indifferent. I'll let you guys decide that to be able to review it for yourself. Hey, guys, real quick, I just realized right after we wrap that I didn't finish the last third of that point right there. And basically what I was going to say is that you have the political appointees where there are certainly ties and some longstanding ties where there may be a relationship between Mossad and some. CIA where you could say, hey, they're definitely doing this, this or that together. But whenever I've heard Intel guys like rank and file guys talk about that relationship over the

years online and whenever I've talked with any guys from that world who are in here about that relationship, whether it be on camera or off camera, I've never really heard anyone talk about that in a very positive lens. They always talk about they don't get along. Maasad's always trying to spy on us, etc, etc. It's everyone from John Kirooku to even like an Andrew Bustamante, like these guys will say it wasn't like the closest relationship or anything like that. People will often say CIA equals Maasad, Mossad equals CIA. It's just simply not true.

Okay, why is that? That's a statement made out of ignorance. Yeah. Now, why do you say that? So when people try to equate the two, That's where I'm always like, I think it depends what part you're looking at. But if there's some sort of relationship there at some level, I think that's reasonable to investigate.

Back to the show. But the fact that guys like Epstein, the reason I bring this up is because all these different intel agencies, someone can be used by multiple places if they're not, especially if they're not officially employed by a place because they can do it through shell companies or really companies and everything in between and then be a fixer paid at the highest bidder. But they might do it more for one place than another place. It still makes everyone complicit when you're dealing with a guy like this. This is not a regular – Jeffrey Epstein is not a regular spy.

He is a pedophile. He is a sex trafficker. He is a – probably – if we're looking at these emails correctly, a killer and not, you know, Wacking some terrorist in a in a back alley in in fucking Tanzania because you got intel. I mean like a killer of kids. Like the lowest kind of person there is. And that's that's what makes this so so bad. And this is why with this situation,

Trump has put his supporters in a really impossible. position. So let's be clear. And I said this last week, but I want to reiterate this. All the Democrats like getting credit for asking these questions now because Trump's in power, right? They're not. And now it's out. And now the Clintons are far enough past their due that like they don't even care anymore. They just like let them go down with the ship. Now the Democrats are seizing on on the moment because it's advantageous for them politically to do so. but make no mistake about it, every administration, Republican and Democrat for the last two decades, probably three, has covered this up.

All of them. They deserve zero credit. It is all political theater. What is going on now? And shame on all the people. Basically, like I said, you got Rokana, Thomas Massey, and Nancy Mace, and maybe a couple others I'm leaving out who deserve some credit right now for really doing the right thing. And everyone else can fuck off because it's just political theater. it's true that Donald Trump's administration is the first administration to release any evidence of anything

at the base level okay great it's also true that Donald Trump knew Jeffrey Epstein for a very long time it is true that he was friends with him for a long time it's something that I've said this before I've defended him in the past on based on some actions he ended up taking including talking to victim attorney Brad Edwards at length in I believe like 2007 and telling him all kinds of information about Jeffrey Epstein and why he cut him off and the kinds of shit he was doing and he was the only powerful person that Brad Edwards contacted who was willing to do that and he does deserve credit for that. But, you know, there's some stuff that it's like is there or there or there in the past where to Jeffrey Epstein pull some things on him. We've never been able to place Trump

on the island. He denies it. I guess that's good, bare minimum. But like, he's been on the plane. He went to Maria Farmer when she worked the front desk at Epstein's, I believe, like Midtown office in the 1990s, has talked for years about how Donald Trump would be in there quite often and has given a specific story on that as it pertains to her where she didn't get abused or anything, but just the way Jeffrey and Donald Trump went back and forth where Jeffrey walked in and pointed to her and said she's not for you when Donald Trump was looking at her, like that kind of stuff. So like stuff like that is problematic. But let's say for a minute. Let's say that he didn't do anything to use Howard Lutnik's term untoured as it relates to

underage women or taking advantage of women of any age in any way. Let's say that was the case. And let's say, again, I give credit that he's the first administration to release anything. The fact that he redacted all these powerful people who are clearly guilty of awful stuff because they're his friends. Marchery Taylor Green has talked about the direct conversations she's had with him where he has said my friends are going to get hurt by this. You're fucking pedophile friends. The fact that he has tried to call it a democratic hoax, the fact that he has completely abandoned his base and not followed through on his promise here as the guy who's supposed to break the fucking bureaucracy curse. That's how he sells himself of all these corrupt fucking political establishment systems

that just cover up all the shit like this. The fact that now he's done all that, it's a Streisand effect on steroids, number one, and number two, it makes him blatantly openly guilty of covering up one of the most massive, known pedophilia-related rings in world history. Joe Paterno was the coach at Penn State for fucking five decades. He covered up, as far as we know, one guy who was very bad and prolific, by the way, and what an awful pedophile he was, abused a lot of boys, Jerry Sandusky. Covered up one guy and lost his job within a week of it coming out, for real. He lost his job for a lot less.

Okay? And again, it's not to exonerate all the previous administrations. Biden, Trump won, Obama, George Bush, Bill Clinton. More on that in a minute. You know, not to, like, they all deserve the same. They probably deserve more because they didn't even release anything. But the PR job that Donald Trump has done here has been uncharacteristically abysmal. And now he has created a hole that is really, really difficult to dig out of.

And I will add, when no Republicans attended deposition of Les Wexner by Congress at his house in Ohio, the first known interview that guy has ever had with anyone related to the government or this investigation, it's not a good look. now and they're probably partially not doing that a because they're brought off by some people that maybe aren't too hot about the story coming out and b because they've seen what the president does when anyone on his side decides to speak up about this he turned on marjorie taylor green he's funding he's he's pushing the funding campaign against thomas massey it's not a good look And that's the thing about this case, and I've said this. It's the most bipartisan case ever. They're all guilty.

They're all wrong. They're all a part of the cover up. It ain't red. It ain't blue. It's not horizontal. It's vertical. It's an elite group of people and the people that serve them, including the politicians, they buy. It's not that hard.

Don't complicate it. But, Dief, there was a really, really funny quote this week, darkly funny. I think I sent you the link. See where it says no links to Epstein claim on that text? Mm-hmm. Let's pull that up. Let's pull up that video and give her some volume. This is one hill dog.

Remember when South Park would call her hill dog? That's my queen, bro. This is Hillary Clinton, who is due to testify with her husband in front of Congress. That's coming up. This is Hillary Clinton talking about Jeffrey Epstein with a dead straight face. Again, these people hate you. These people, these people, it's actually like, they don't feel enough to even hate you. It's like it's above that by being below that.

It's not even worth their energy to hate you because you don't exist. So that's just the one thing real quick though that drives me nuts is like talking about it with friends is they think the solution will be like, oh, AOC will turn this ship around and fix this. And I'm like, you don't see yet that not one of them cares about you. Right. It doesn't matter. You said not red or blue. No one cares. That's right.

That's right. Let's play it, beef. Oh, Hillary. You know, we have no links. We have a very clear record that we've been willing to talk about, which my husband has said. He took some rides on the airplane for his charitable work. First charitable work. I don't recall ever meeting him.

Did you ever meet Elaine Maxwell? I did on a few occasions. She attended my wife, my daughter's wedding. Thousands of people go to the Clinton Global Initiative. So it to me is not something that is really at the heart of what this matter is about. They are accused and in both cases were convicted of horrific crimes against girls and women. That should be the focus. And we are more than happy to say what we know, which is very limited and totally unrelated to their behavior or their crimes.

And we want to do it in public because let's make this transparent. The survivors deserve that. The public deserves that. She cares a lot about them, Dief, right? Don't we all deserve it, folks? We all deserve it. It didn't matter. a decade ago. But now

now it matters. And that's where by the way, that is where you know, like Trump's orbit of saying like, oh now they care. That's a hey, that's a fair argument there. Like, of course they fucking now care because as Tim Dill would put it, they're like

let's just go down with the ship. If we can pull Trump with us. I honestly I will give them credit if they do it. If they go in there and they're like, hey, we all did it. Me, Bill, if they did that, if they did that, it went down, I'd be like burn in hell, but like, I'm going to at least like do the, it's going be like Jeter.

The cheater before the hell trip. Three two pecked. Yeah, now I'll get burned. But yeah, when she says barely, I never met him. I only met Gila, notice how she like looked up and went like this. I only met Gielan a few times. Yeah, is that true? She went to her daughter's wedding.

Yeah, there's a picture of Gielin looking down the aisle like this as Chelsea walks by. Everyone visits the Clinton Global Initiative. Clinton. Right. But her husband took, I forget, 25 to 27 flights on Lolita Express. He was seen with celebrities around Epstein. He was reported by Virginia Roberts Schuphrey back in 2011 as to have walked into the Vanity Fair offices himself to tell them to shut down stories on Jeffrey Epstein. He did deny that. Grading Carter at Vanity Fair denied that, but certainly something worth considering and this is a guy who has been seen on the island by victims as well and also the dude who goes way back with the whole fixer community i mean need i bring up fucking barry seal and the

cocaine coming into arkansas through me right no problems no questions asked clinton's always been as dirty as it gets and it's certainly suspicious that like now I mean, again, I think it's probably political opportunism because the Democrats are finally like, man, you guys are such old news that like it's not even worth it anymore to try to cover up everything that you've ever done. We don't even care anymore because there's people in office right now who are worried about themselves. And they're like, you know what?

If we got to sacrifice the old Clintons, fuck them. That's why, right? Quote. Yeah. Quote Dave Chappelle there. But it'll be interesting to see what they decide to say. It's just funny that these people still think in their, you know, boom, boom, boom kind of tone that they can lie to your face like that. And you're just – and there will be some people who take them at face value, which is fucking just absurd.

Absurd. Which is also, you know, if I could call myself out for a minute. There are some things in the past that as it pertains to 9-11 that I have, I mean, I've always thought it's fishy and there's shit that went wrong. But there's some things that I've been dismissive of about having happened. And the fact is I can't be dismissive of really anything at this point because these files are opening a can of worms that, and frankly, they'd call myself out. In some cases, I shouldn't need the files to get me all the way there. Just being honest. But now it's unquestionable that there are some serious issues.

Now, we've heard in the past and these things I have always thought there's something to, which is that the airline stocks were shorted massively relative to normal volume in the business days leading up to 9-11. You know, we are aware that multiple other countries, to look, say nothing of our own, were aware something was going down before this. Those countries being Saudi Arabia, Israel, and there may be more on that list, too. We are also aware that CIA deliberately cut off contact or sharing information with FBI. That I've always talked about. that one I've been on on within the past. I'll at least give myself that. You know, and is there or there there. What I will still say is that it is strange that the head of

counterintelligence and the head of CIA himself in at least one of the cases literally went to the Bush White House on, I believe, like July 6, 2001 and then later maybe like August 11th or August 6, 2001, and photograph memory is a little hazy there, to personally meet with Condoleezza Rice at one of the meetings. And the other one might have been with Richard Clark, but it's been a while. So check me on that in the comments. But like to personally meet with them and say they're coming here, there's going to be some sort of attack.

We know something's happening. So like, there had to be some people who genuinely thought something was being there. And they put it on the record to the literal White House, which do with that what you will, by the way. We know what kind of wars they got into after that. Where CIA at least demonstrated like, yeah, we may have a fucking problem here. So that part is still interesting to me. But the fact that there's an email, can we pull up this email, Dief? And people, a lot of you watching right now, I hope you've already seen this one.

This is one of the more shocking emails to me at the blatancy that we've seen in this latest released of around 3 million emails. But this is from Galane Maxwell to someone, well, first it's Ed Epstein emailing Glenn Maxwell what is the date on this again? So it's 2003 any interest in being on the shadow

commission on 9-11 the membership list is secret and she says thanks for the invite unfortunately I cannot be on the shadow commission shadow commission we all know the 9-11 commission and the report that was published you know to fanfare

whatever the fuck you want to call it in 2004 was all covered up and bullshit and they hid stuff and said Nothing to see here. Don't worry about it. The fact that these people are talking openly an email about a shadow commission is suss as fuck. And then, T. F, let's pull up the real thing here. So this is data that Ian Carroll put together.

That is certainly strange. Strange. Very, very strange. So when you look at the documents, I'm going to. to try to simplify this for people because there's some terminology here related to what kinds of documents and all that. But, Defe, can you just pull up the first picture? Yeah. So this is a graph that shows 1995 to 2005. Okay. So the DOJ has identified six million pages and there are roughly three million that have still been withheld. I think they said they announced this past

weekend that they're done. Everything else that's in the files. I think they're not releasing anymore. For now. For now, yeah. Again, their PR campaign's horrible. It's like, well, what's in? Yeah, right. Tim Burchett, I think, saw some because he was saying there's fucking cannibalism and all this shit in it, which is just fucking insane. But when you look at these years and you look at the data that was pulled to see the tranches of information related to the files that are released, everything basically falls to approximately zero from 90s.

1999 to 2001 in the buildup to 9-11. And I was on the phone with another guy today who was pointing this out and saying that there is multi, multi-intelligence agency links directly to that information. And obviously, like whoever's withholding it now is withholding it now. but this cannot be ignored. This is, we've talked about this being a conspiracy theorist, wet dream, like this entire thing. This is a holy grail potential. Potential right here.

The fact that you have emails that show these people openly talking about a shadow commission, I would love to say like, oh, they were just joking. But yet, I mean, you're going to say that after reading all these emails? They don't seem like they were just joking. Even when they told jokes, it was about serious shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? This is a really sinister look.

So the data, just to read the forensic note here, the dataset 9 manifest shows a hard break and serial sequencing at, and there's a long terminology there. You can see it on the screen. The missing tranches overlap with key geopolitical events and anomalous market activity, emphasis on anomalous market activity. As of February 26, 50% of the total identified Epstein evidence remains withheld by the DOJ for reasons of, quote, national security or deliberative process privilege. We the people deserve answers on what that is about the worst terrorist attack to ever happen on the United States soil. The victims have never gotten answers. They've sued, for example, Saudi Arabia and U.S. courts, and that ends up really going nowhere at the end of the day. were allied with Saudi Arabia

do all these arms deals with them and shit apparently let them whack off dissidents in foreign consulates as well and that's not a problem but again I've talked about having to open

to my mind to certain things with this and you know be like you know there's a there now and here you go now we've looked at the fact that

justice has not happened at all to people who are very clearly involved with this guy, very clearly involved with this guy in Epstein in not just nefarious ways, but the sickest ways, provably, right? No arrests are occurring. There was finally an arrest this morning, though, in England. Can we pull up that link? Yeah. Prince Andrew, who is clearly a fucking didler scumbag. Prince Andrew was arrested by the royal police. And so let's pull up the latest here. Go down deep if you would. So Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, the younger brother of King Charles, the third, has been released from custody and remains under investigation following his arrest today on suspicion of misconduct in public office.

I'll comment on that a minute. King Charles expressed his deepest concern about the case and stressed that the law must take its course. Andrew, who spent a decade, this is the point. A decade is UK trade envoy, is the first senior British royal to be arrested in nearly four. 400 years. Police previously say they were reviewing claims that Andrew shared sensitive information with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein while serving his envoy. The former prince has denied all accusation against him and insisted he never witnessed or suspected any of the behavior of which the late Epstein is accused. He has not commented publicly on these more recent

allegations of misconduct and public office. So when he was trade envoy, one of the things he did, of many things he did, was he tried to suppress investigations related to the, I'm gonna fuck it up again, Dief, that's Saudi arms deal in 1981. Alia mama. Alia mama, where his buddy, Jeffrey Epstein, was directly involved. And by the way, even trying to claim at this point that he never forget, do anything, never witnessed anything that was weird with Jeffrey Epstein, a million victims have him placed at the site over and over and over again,

doing the things, by the way. And photos. Like, there's enough photos of him there at this point where, like, you can't even, like, say that with a straight, face. It's so bad. And Pierce Morgan, who's like a hardcore royalist, was saying today, he's like, this is the kind of thing that we talked about what Rokana was saying last week, but he's like something like this, if this really goes somewhere as a threat to the entire monarchy, which is like, you know, happily in my soul. I'm like, oh my God, let's fucking go. You got to wonder, like I said last week, what are the downstream implications of that?

you know so we will we will see what happens with with andrew i also i do want to shout out there was there was one positive thing in the emails first fucking positive thing i've seen really one and six million yeah meaning meaning like i meaning like someone did the right thing that's what i'm referring to as positive there's nothing positive related to epstein But the CEO of Hermes, Alex Dumas, right on. You know, worldwide. Like Hermes. Very, very big high lifestyle brand.

Jeffrey Epstein was trying to get in with him hardcore in 2012, 2013, I believe. And the guy was like, fuck you. You're a pedo. So then Jeffrey Epstein in 2016, donated a large sum of money to a charity associated. It sounds like with Hermes or with Dumas personally. And he sent the fucking money back back then. So shout out to Alex Dumas.

Yeah, it's a very unfrench thing to do. You know? Hey. Like when you have like all the political minds and philosophers in the 70s trying to lower the age of consent and. France and then like you have this guy sending the money back it's like damn bro yeah new heights respect yeah i'm joking well i'm joking i would go with the with the joke joe i mean it's just it's not a time maybe maybe you could influence people out there yeah i'm sorry folks not change their opinion

to see it both ways that's that's that's that's the that's the thing about this is not it's not it's not a well i could you know when you're talking about who and where and you know who's working for who you can say I can see it this way or see that way but when it comes to the shit that's going on here there's no like you hear the well as soon as I hear the well it's just like yeah well now I talked about that super government earlier yeah supra super that's a super that's a good term but there's a there's an article I sent you by cavork amazian I'd love you to pull that up I'm going to give a huge shout out to this guy he has a YouTube channel as well maybe we can link that down below but this is a short

article that I literally want to read because it's so perfectly written that's called the empire above Epstein. And I think this guy nails it in that quote unquote 30,000 foot view. What I read in the last batch of Epstein emails, I had this strange feeling that the story was getting bigger in a serious sense that it starts pushing you towards questions that are normally considered too heavy for polite conversation. Who really rules? Who owns the money? Who sets the limits on what is possible and what the world often feels like it is being managed from above while the rest of us are simply reacting from below. Well said. And I want to start this op-ed with a disclaimer because in today's environment,

people either want you to speak with religious certainty or they want you to shut up. And I reject both of those demands. You see why I like this guy. I'm going to be careful with my words. I'm going to raise controversial ideas. And I'm going to tell you openly that some of what I'm about to say is speculation, not because I want to hide behind a hedge, but because anyone who speaks about these networks honestly has to admit where the evidence ends, and where interpretation begins. For years, you've heard conspiracy theorists say we're ruled by satanic cults,

and I have always been skeptical of that framing. Not because I think the world is morally pure, but because I don't accept extreme claims without evidence. However, what I have always said long before these documents is that the people who dictate foreign policy, who start wars, who impose starvation sanctions, who can look at the sufferings of millions, and call it, quote, strategy, unquote.

They must have a certain psychological profile because normal human beings do not casually destroy entire societies and then sleep well at night. As an aside here, we have cited this on the podcast so many times, but that example in the U.S. State Department during the height of the Cold War, where you literally had people in power positions who were quoted as saying, well, if Russia nuked us, we'd lose 60, but they'd lose 240 in our return. and they viewed it as a 180 win. And I'm referring to millions of people. They viewed 300 million people dying, including 60 million of their own, as a fucking casualty of war that would be useful in their victory in the fucking basketball score of national security. That is what this guy just beautifully laid out as to how these people think.

He goes on to say, Syria is the clearest example because the record is not even disputed. After Donald Trump's sanctions, especially the Caesar Act, Syrians were pushed under the poverty line on a mass scale, and we are talking about millions of people living inside the country who watched their currency collapse, their purchasing power evaporate, and their society suffocate economically, even after the major battles quieted down. Now, here's where the abstinemales begin to change the way you perceive the world, because for years we assumed that the people making these decisions were the visible institutions, the White House, Congress, the Senate, the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, the intelligence agencies. We assume those were the ruins where policy is made, and maybe they are partly. But what these leaks invite you to consider is that even those institutions may not be the top of the pyramid, that beyond presidents, beyond politicians, beyond the faces you see on television, there might be stronger forces that finance, incentivize, and guide the decisions,

and that the visible leaders are sometimes executors rather than planners. Because once you start reading about the relationships around Epstein, who he met, who he advised, who he had asked, who he had asked, access to who he was bragging about representing, you begin to see something like a web, a connected network of money, ideology, and bureaucracy where the same names show up across finance, tech, academia, politics, and you begin to suspect that what we call democracy might be more like a stage, a circus of competing politicians who look like leaders, but function in reality as employees of a system they do not control. I say this not to sound melodramatic,

but because the implication is deeply unsettling. If power is operating through networks we cannot see directly, then what is the meaning of elections, parliaments, campaign promises, televised debates, and moral posturing? Are we truly considering our future, or are we being offered a menu where the real chef remains hidden and our only role is to select which dish will be served to us this season? This is where the names that appear around Epstein start to become more than gossip.

The point is not to worship or demonize a single family, or a single dynasty, and I want to be clear here because the internet loves turning analysis into tribal targeting. The point is to decide is to understand that banking dynasties, military industrial industries, and elite tech projects are not separate universes. They are often intertwined, and when you see Epstein telling people that he represents major banking interests, and when you see the proximity between Silicon Valley billionaires and networks like his, you start thinking that many of the visionary products sold to the public, transhumanism, brain chips, AI governance, digital currency systems, might not be grassroots innovations at all,

but top-down projects in search of total control over the human environment. And when you think about it this way, you begin to question the entire hierarchy of power. Maybe parliaments are not the first level of decision-making, but the fourth or fifth. Maybe prime ministers and presidents are not sovereign leaders, but third-level managers tasked with selling policy to the public. Maybe the Musk and Teal class, those who run platforms, build AI systems, push neural technologies are not the top either, but executive directors implementing projects designed elsewhere for interests larger than their own. And when you arrive at the most dangerous question of all, the question nobody wants citizens to ask too loudly, if the real power lies above the democratic stage in darkness.

Remember the Washington Post line, democracy dies in darkness? Yeah, and real power stays in the shadows. Yeah, it was cringe, but it's just funny the words there. In networks that can feed money, push ideas, and mobilize bureaucracy to implement them, then do we really live in democracies or do we live inside managed democracies where freedom is mostly a feeling and choice is mostly a performance? That is where the modern agenda begins to look like a trap. Digital ideas, IDs, Central Bank, digital currencies, a future of permanent verification, a future where every transaction

movement and social interaction can be registered, controlled, and possibly punished. Even the public health itself, something that should be, that should belong to medicine and care, becomes a domain of discipline and enforcement where you are told you must comply, not because of the science being settled, but because the system has decided that dissent is intolerable. And people will ask, do we have a choice? Are we truly able to say no if these systems are being built regardless of what voters think? Because if these projects can be imposed, even against public skepticism that democracy becomes a branding exercise rather than a governing reality. What has changed for me since this recent Epstein drop is not that I suddenly discovered

evil exists where the powerful people lie. What changed is that the veil feels thinner and the hierarchy feels clearer and the idea that politicians are leaders feels harder to swallow. When someone like Tony Blair, who played an instrumental role in invading Iraq, comes back years later and tries to sell the public the need for digital IDs, I see him as an employee. a middle manager implementing the projects of superiors whose names we rarely see on screen. I'm going to stop it right there. There's still more there. Everyone go check out that article.

But you see what he's getting at. He is getting at the fact that we have been fighting the wrong fight the entire time. The fight is between this class that we cannot see. So I had posed publicly a question to you guys on Instagram about a month and a half ago where I was offered to come give my Epstein. take on a, I think I'm allowed to say it, but, you know, on a TV network for an episode of a new show that Andrew Bustamante is hosting. Obviously, I talked about him earlier. And I was very skeptical of this. Not because of Andy, actually, Andy doesn't have final cut on this thing, but because I know

how these networks cut stuff up. So y'all know where I stand on this issue. You all know where I'm putting all my money where my mouth is with like the things I think and the things I'm not sure of. So when I am done filming this next Saturday, at some point here over the next few weeks, I will give a high level recap of the things that I said. And then when this comes out, we'll see if they fucking butcher it and try to switch it up. But most of the fans responded in the poll to go do it. And the best logic I saw was exactly what I just said. That was a fan, multiple fans had the same idea. They're like, go do it and then say exactly what you said.

And then let's see if they fuck it all up and they can be called out in. public. So that's what we're going to do. I don't know when it comes out, but I'll be filming that next weekend. And if we don't have an episode therefore because of that, that's why. And we will pick this back up. But I want to dig into the Satanism of these emails and the very specifics of what we've seen. There's one last link. I want to pull up before we go, Dief. One sec. Let me just pull it back up. All right, we got it. So this is from Mario Nafal. Epstein emailed Ariande Rothschild, head of the $236 billion. Edmund de Rottra Banking Empire.

Quote, I have your cereal. Can talk tonight around 2,200. Said cereal at 10 p.m. That's a real email from 2017. That is talking in code. It's talking in code to a banking dynasty. One of the largest bank of dynasty is in the world.

There are a lot more emails like this. There are a lot more emails that point to even more detail. But when you see mob-like terms being used by people that are connected to these types of deprave things make no mistake about it you are probably looking at exactly what you're looking at so we will dig into that there's a lot i want to do on robert maxwell as well that we haven't done that's really important to put some of this together and some of that's coming out in the emails to be able to put it together a little better and there's another case going on right now by the way that doesn't get any attention that is

directly overlapping with epstein That is, ooh, same vibes. Same, same vibes. So we got a lot on the bone here. If you are not subscribed, please subscribe.

We will keep this going. I'm releasing, as usual, regular two guest episodes a week. We've been doing that throughout the week. And then I've been doing these solos on the weekends. You can look forward to John Kiriaku's episode with me two days after this. I'm going to put out the Epstein Victims first part after that. It's going to be two episodes because she was recording with me for a while.

But we got a lot of good stuff coming up. I've been switching up the topics. As I always do, I will continue to do that. And then we will have this sub-series on Epstein. So that all said, I'm Julian Dory. This is Joey Dief. Give it a thought. Get back to me.

Peace. Thank you for watching this episode, guys. If you haven't already subscribed, please subscribe. And I'll see you for John Kiriaku's episode on Monday.