Julian Dorey Podcast - #393 - "Epstein IRAN Link!" - Julian BLASTS the Clintons, Latest Files & DOJ Coverup

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Starting point is 00:00:33 And I do not stand for that at all. And I will call that out. But I got no love for the Israeli government. And there's every piece of evidence to see that. Look no farther than the fact that this was reported. I believe in Israeli outlets, American outlets, you know, obviously there's fog of war stuff. But the Israelis were spying on the Trump administration's communications with Iran where they're trying to talk about peace.

Starting point is 00:00:58 and Netanyahu called Trump reportedly to make sure he didn't negotiate peace. Fuck you. What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Great Society Show. I am Julian Dory. And I'm Joey Dief. How you doing? How you done?

Starting point is 00:01:21 We got some pretty important things going on in the world right now, but we always do like to have fun here. That said, there's certainly going to be some serious moments today. As there has to be any time we cover this Epstein case or those aforementioned current events because shit is going crazy out there. And I am genuinely worried about where this could lead. And I'm going to get into the whole historical theorizing as to why that is the case for this particular Iran situation versus, say, the Ukraine war, which is also something that was a huge problem when it first came up and continues to be a problem, but does not have the same ramifications as what we are facing right now. But I had talked last week on this now weekly extra episode we have going where Dief and I sit here and break down the Epstein files and goes through things that are going on in the world. I had told you that everything we are seeing, including what was at the time an impending attack on Iran, was nothing but a distraction.

Starting point is 00:02:24 And it was a distraction from what is the biggest story of my lifetime in these Epstein files, something where, you know, we see behind the can. Elabra, if you will. And we understand exactly, I shouldn't even say exactly, but we have an understanding that the way the world works is actually closer to the way the people who used to be labeled conspiracy theorists did theorize. And in many cases correctly so, at least on a 30,000 foot view in the airway. But before I get into this, I did something pretty interesting this past weekend. Lay it on us. Yeah. Now, I, unfortunately, got to blue balls you a little bit and say, I can't go into full details yet. You're going to be able to see this end of April, beginning of May, on a TV network. But I had mentioned I was going

Starting point is 00:03:16 to go out and film something regarding Epstein with Andy Bustamante, who is your resident on camera still in the CIA, CIA spy. Certainly never left the agency, but a friend of mine as well. what I will say is that I was genuinely shocked by what we ended up filming and they're going to have me talk about it in the buildup to when it actually comes out and talk about it in detail so I'm not going to go there yet but I will put it this way one of the major pieces of criticism that Andy Bustamante fairly gets by the way very fair that he gets this outside of being actively in CIA and possibly propagandizing for them certainly. But one of the major pieces of hate that he gets out there is that he has never seen a conspiracy theory that he couldn't

Starting point is 00:04:12 poo poo and go like this and be like, no, no, it's just incompetence. It's not real. I will just put it to you this way. When we sat down and filmed what we filmed about Epstein, I was stunned to see him go completely the opposite way. I mean, he went to what would have previously been described as like 4chan land. Now it's much more normal in a way. But I was sitting there genuinely stunned on camera going, you, you of all people,

Starting point is 00:04:47 are telling me that you're finding this about the case. You, Andy. Like, what the fuck? What got India? I love it, but what got India? And I'm not going to say yet what we investigated other than it was something to do with, How can I say this?

Starting point is 00:05:05 How can I say this while I'm giving it away? I don't know if you can. I don't know if I can either, but it had something to do with Epstein's connections and the abilities that that afforded him even at his lowest moments. That's a pretty good way of putting it, right? Yeah, and I could say that you called me afterwards

Starting point is 00:05:29 and I know when you're being very genuine about something and you were like, My world has been turned upside down. Hey guys, three quick things. Number one, if you haven't subscribed, please subscribe to huge, huge help. Number two, if you'd like to join my Patreon for early uncensored releases of the full episodes, you can join via the link of my description or in the pin comment below. And number three, if you'd like to join my clipping community for a chance to make content

Starting point is 00:05:55 from the show and make money, you can join via the Discord link in my description below. Like, we got in there and we talked on camera about the case in general for like, over an hour of which they're going to use like three minutes of that. It was a great conversation. But then he laid on me what we were there to investigate because when he asked me to do this two months ago, he's like, I want to do it like you do your podcast. I'm not going to tell you what specifically I'm investigating around Epstein, but let's just get in there and do it. So he lays on me what we're going to be investigating. And I was like, okay, cool. And then he did something and showed me a bunch of things, including a lot of government documents and then began to demonstrate

Starting point is 00:06:34 certain things related to those. And very slowly I went from very back and forth talkative with him to genuinely shell-shocked and quiet. And towards the end, it was like a crisis of, I mean, it was like almost like, as it relates to the case itself, like existential. Like what the fuck? Like if this is the case, then nothing's real.

Starting point is 00:06:58 So wild shit, as I said, I got to blue bulls you a little bit, but you're going to want to want to. want to see that when it comes out. Certainly, certainly interesting. So, I think it was a cool experience. We're going to watch to see how the certain TV network cuts it up. I want to make sure that's done right because we filmed for fucking seven hours. That's lame. You know? They should do something with the, like if you do an hour recording, even if they

Starting point is 00:07:23 don't put it on the TV program, they should like put it on the YouTube or they do something with it. I think, Andy, I can't confirm this fully, but just based on some stuff he was saying, I think Andy's probably talking to them about that. Yeah. He's got a big YouTube too. Yeah. And that would also be great for transparency, by the way, which is something, you know, Andy could definitely use some help in that department. Yeah. Instills trust into legacy institutions. Well, I don't think anyone's ever going to trust Andy. But you know what I'm saying. Even them doing that, you're like, oh, okay, I'll trust you guys a bit. Yes. Transparency. Yes. So that is going to be very interesting. But this week we are, I'm putting out this episode on

Starting point is 00:08:02 Saturday this week on Monday or Tuesday, you are going to see the first half of the Epstein Survivor sit down. I know you guys have been patient about that. That is coming now. I've had so many current, literally current of the moment event podcast coming in that like I've had to get these things out. So that one with the Epstein Survivor, which she was awesome, that's coming out. And then we are also going to have an episode with Chris Hanson, who is exactly the Chris Hanson you're thinking of in here and certainly good time to have them in given everything going on but great guy and we had a good time yeah hello have a seat chris i'm looking for the julian dory pop is that why you're here that's what the transcript said i think thieves got some messages to say

Starting point is 00:08:54 oh really yeah well stop stealing my line he's a real deal dief oh i what i didn't say he wasn't he's He's real as they come. Yeah, like he, that guy doesn't miss a beat. Yeah, hell of a career. Yes. Like, relevant as ever, you know, still doing his thing. Yep. Hats off.

Starting point is 00:09:16 But like I said, I'm going to get to a bunch of the Iran war breakdown at the end. And for me personally, I kind of want to put that on there as like a time capsule. I want to look back on it a year from now, two years from now, five years from now, see where the world is and see how much of it makes sense. because I do have a lot of thoughts on it and I take it very, very seriously. But, you know, John Kirooku when he was in here recording with me, February 20th, and we put out that episode on Monday the 23rd on that Friday, February 20th, he made his report that Trump had made up his mind to attack Iran. And he had said it would happen Monday or Tuesday and ended up happening Friday. But everything he said about who was against it, Trump being fully mind made up and the Joint

Starting point is 00:09:58 Cheats of staff on board completely was correct. And we were, John, and I were both hoping that his source would be incorrect, but I knew that was probably wishful thinking. So we are now seeing where that is. And as at the time of this recording, I mean, you know, they're talking about putting boots on the ground in the Pentagon and moving the goalposts. I'll get to it later. But it is genuinely, genuinely very, very scary to me. But let's let's get to the late and not at all great, horrible, disgusting. Jeffrey Epstein and dig into this case because we will not be distracted by any bullshit we see in the world, whether it be something dumb like throwing us probably fake alien files and not the real

Starting point is 00:10:46 thing, which we need to push for the real thing eventually, but that's for another day, or something very serious like Iran because, man, Dief, it's fucking great timing to start a Middle East war so the Twitter goes up in a bunch about everything that's happening while we got all these files floating around and while they're, while they're deletive, deleting a lot of files too that's pretty crazy right yeah a lot of coincidences total coincidence yeah total coincidence but with geoffrey upstein you know if you listen to my show and some of the amazing people that we've been privileged to have in here whenever i have in people who are more on the geopolitics side who also are studios of history a common topic that has often come up by dating all the way back to

Starting point is 00:11:33 episode 43 with Matt Kemenash is the fourth turning. Now, some of you listening right now who are long time fans, you have heard me explain this before. A lot of you who are listening, who have found the show through the solo episodes like this in recent weeks, perhaps you haven't. So apologies to the people that have heard this before, but for everyone else, I think it's important to have some context as to what the fourth turning is. And as I say that, Diff, I just realized I forgot the names of the author. It's like Strauss and Howe, but I want to make sure I get that right. So the fourth turning is a book that was written in the mid-90s, maybe it was like 96, 97, by some historian sociologists. Yes, William Strauss and Neil Howe. One of them is deceased.

Starting point is 00:12:18 The other one is still alive and I'd like to get the other one in. But it's one of the greatest, most prescient and also scary slash optimistic. I don't really know how to describe it books ever written. And here's why I say that. One of the problems with historians is that they'll do an amazing job, researching history and going through it and reporting on it and sourcing everything and stuff like that. It's not to take a shot at them. But what will often happen is they get so immersed in studying maybe a particular

Starting point is 00:12:55 period in history or, you know, a broad range of history, depending on who they are, that this cognitive bias comes in that makes them believe that they are therefore apt to be able to predict the future perfectly. And unfortunately, what happens then is they often change the patterns that exist right in front of them without realizing that. What these guys, Strauss and Howe did, is they basically looked at history. They found a pattern that I'm going to explain in a minute. And they went like this. They like picked it up and they just almost like, you know, something hot and fresh out of the oven that you don't want to fuck with. They just lifted it up and then went right. Yep. Put it right there and backed away. And just said, just look at this. We're not

Starting point is 00:13:41 going to change anything. We're just, we're looking at what happened. We're moving it right here. Don't blame us. Don't shoot the messenger. And what they found is that, Over the past four centuries, three four centuries in particularly, though it could go back farther. And I believe they said that in the book. It's been a while since I read it. Over the past three, four centuries, there have been societal patterns that repeat themselves in 80 to 85 year cycles.

Starting point is 00:14:09 Now, you can also, I believe, look at this in cycles around the world in particular and find a fit. But for the purposes of this conversation, we are going to talk about America, which has also been the rising empire during the time period that we're talking about. So, hmm, where do I want to start at the top here? These 80 to 85 year cycles are generational. All right, we'll start with this part. Essentially, they break it down into four different generations that exist roughly, you know, 21 years at a time. So you have four age groups at any given time, age zero to 21, 22 to 43 or 44. 45 to 66 and 67 and above. And each of these age groups, based on when they are born in the cycle, is given a name.

Starting point is 00:15:02 So let's relate it to our current age groups that we know. The age group that is 66 and older, 67 and older right now are the boomers. And the boomers are what these guys term as the prophets. Okay. These generations are going to repeat themselves every four over and over. again. So the most recent profits are the boomers. These are people that are born in the post-crisis time and rise come of age, meaning zero to 21 during the time when the quote-unquote empire or winners of the previous crisis is building itself up. The next generation after that, so think

Starting point is 00:15:42 Gen X, are what are called the nomads. This is a generation that comes of age zero to 21 during a time period. You see everything's in fours here. So we're in the second generation and the second time period right now. Hold that thought. They come of age during a time period called the awakening, which is like the post boom excitement time period. And it's where society turns inward and starts to look at itself while it's now been settled as the power post crisis and starts to look at its own wounds or its own flaws. So think the hippie movement, Vietnam, all that. That's when the nomads are growing up and coming of age. The third generation is called the heroes. And the heroes come of age, zero to 21, during a time in which basically it's the brewing time

Starting point is 00:16:31 of a crisis. So these are the millennials who were born between 1981 and around 1996, 1997, and they grow up in the time when things are starting to get frothy. They don't go all the way there, but things are starting to get to wait a minute and this might be getting a little out of control and you could you could say that while they're growing up that time period would certainly, you couldn't say, you will say, it's true.

Starting point is 00:17:00 That time period, for example, with our millennials would include 9-11, the dot-com boom, the war in Iraq, the GWOT, if you will. Occupy Wall Street. Occupy Wall Street, which was post what, Dief, the financial crisis.

Starting point is 00:17:19 And, you know, that's kind of what it is. And it blends over into a fourth time period called the crisis period, which is the climax, if you will. And the generation that grows up during this period is the artist generation, which you can characterize as Gen Z. They are growing up during a time where things are really, really hard, and it generally scars. their outlook on the world for life. If you want a recent example of that as the one before Gen Z,

Starting point is 00:17:51 it would have been the silent generation who grew up in the Great Depression and World War II. Obviously, that's going to impact how you look at things. That's why my grandma, to this day, you know, writes down how much an orange is at the store, whether it was 69 cents or 89 cents or whatever because she's from the silent generation and that's what she knows. And so what I laid out there were the four generations and the four different cycles. If you're tracking me, what that means is that in each cycle, a generation exists in the same cycle every time, meaning the profits, the boomers, are always coming of age post-crisis. They are always then going out into the workforce and starting to get some power in the world, meaning between 22 and 43 years old

Starting point is 00:18:40 during the awakening period, right? Which can also mean a lot of success for the economy during that period while there's a lot of civil unrest and strife. Again, think like Vietnam and all that shit, the hippie movement. And then they are in power, meaning like pre-retirement at the peak of their game during a burgeoning, frothy time building into a crisis. So when the millennials are children. And then they're retired when the crisis happens. Whenever there's a crisis, it is always the nomad generation, which is the generation coming

Starting point is 00:19:14 after the profits. So think Gen X. They are always the generation that is in power. They're between 44 and 66 years old, something like that in that time period. And that's where we are right now, which by the way, because ages have changed over times, I'm going to show this pattern in a minute historically in how it matches up. Because ages have changed over time, you know, that can also overlap now with like some boomers still being in power. Donald Trump's a boomer. Joe Biden was a boomer, right? Because people are. are living longer. So that does need to be taken into account. But the idea stays the same. Now, you talk about this 80 to 85 year period and how that could work out. And I am bringing

Starting point is 00:19:54 this back to Epstein. Trust me, just bear with me. Think about American history just dating back to the beginning of our country, which is in its 250th year right now. The Revolutionary War took place from roughly 1775 to 1783. 80 to 85 years later, the Civil War took place from 1861 to 1865. 80 to 85 years later, World War II took place for America from 1941 until 1945. 80 to 85 years later lands a smack right between 2020 and 26, which is right where we are. Okay? this happens over and over and over again and each thing each thing why am i saying thing each crisis moment

Starting point is 00:20:48 is precipitated by the buildup you heard me say a few minutes ago that the buildup to our current crisis period and i might have misstated like what generation that was in so apologies if i did that but you get the idea of like the things that lead you into the crisis moment over the past 25 years we have watched our towers come down one mile from here in the New York on 9-11. We have watched that.com boom. We have watched the Iraq War and the endless wars that crashed our economy, crashed our morale, and ended obviously horribly in a full cycle that was, I guess, capstoneed by the 2021 Afghanistan pullout, which was devastating to watch. We have watched the global financial crisis happen, which not only crashed the whole economy and affected the whole world, but it also created.

Starting point is 00:21:40 the biggest separation of wealth gap in maybe world history. I'm saying that off the top of my head so my statisticians out there can go check that for me. But essentially what it meant is that everyone from middle class America, which is what built America, lost all their life savings and then really had nothing to gain it back with when the economy recovered, whereas rich people who lost a lot, the elites, if you will, had more money to be able to invest and put to work in the years after 2008 so that they could make the big rip-up in the stop market as it happened. Then you have the political unrest, as Defe said correctly, the Occupy Wall Street movement and Tea Party movements happening at the same time that give

Starting point is 00:22:26 rise to Donald Trump. And that whole movement, Donald Trump versus what I will say is like a Bernie Sanders populism movement, as Bernie should have been the Democratic nominee. in 2016 very clearly. Like that was what the will of the people, in my opinion at the time, based on what we saw happen with it basically being rigged against him. And in the middle of that, by the way, you have 2014 Maidan with Russia and Ukraine that sets the stage for what would become the Ukraine war, which broke out in late February 22. Now, I thought of something when I was filming with Andy and I couldn't believe I hadn't thought

Starting point is 00:23:09 of this before because I always think about the fourth turning and how things get kicked off. And I thought about the last cycle with World War II. And I was asking myself roughly, what was the pre-crisis frothy moment that set everything off? There was actually something that was like way way, deep, you can patternize this stuff, like the 0809 financial crisis. What was 80 years before that? Black Monday. Well, that was 87, but you're on on the right track, the stock market crash in 29. Yeah, exactly. So even like the financial precipitations can be right in line. Like that's how weirdly simulated we are as humans. So I was thinking of what was the moment that bled open World War II? And there were two answers. The first one

Starting point is 00:24:02 is the Treaty of Versailles, which happened right after the conclusion of World War I. It basically fucked Germany into the next century, which to be clear, Germany needed to pay for World War 1 and what they had done. I mean, they had also inflated the fuck out of their currency. I mean, there was a mess there. But it set them up to fail. And if you read Devil's Chessboard, guys like John Foster Dulles and Alan Dulles were very involved with that. And it created a power vacuum in Germany where a guy like Hitler could end up rising. And that's a guy. And that's, That's obviously a huge breaking point. But then I thought some more. And I tried to think of like a person. And I was like, holy shit, the answer's always been there. It's like something we all know in passing.

Starting point is 00:24:52 Franz Ferdinand, the Archduke of Austro-Hungary, Austria-Hungary, however you fuck you say it. When you look at World War I, and by the way, I would highly recommend people go back and listen to Dan Carlin's full podcast on World War I, one of the greatest things I've ever heard in my life. it is the forgotten war and i don't want to understate it either like we always talk about world war two which is the ward end all wars at this time but world war one not only was it no joke it was it was brutal can we actually pull up the the deceased numbers in world war one deep because it's that's actually really it's it's crazy and and the percentage of the earth at the time 40 million total casualties wounded and dead with deaths ranging from 50 15 to 22 million and the world was smaller than it was during World War II.

Starting point is 00:25:42 So, I mean, it was devastating what happened. But when the Archduke, Franz Ferdinand was assassinated in 1914, it set off a series of events that put into place World War I and caused places like Germany to declare war on Russia and everything goes. It's not like Franz Ferdinand sitting in that fucking car or I don't even think it was a car. It was a horseback carriage or whatever. It's not like, you know, he fucking knew, damn, if they hit me, like the whole world's going to end. And we're all going to war.

Starting point is 00:26:15 But that is the butterfly effect, the domino that happened. And so I went back to the fourth turning and I thought about the patterns. And I thought about all the things that built up to where we are in the current crisis period right now, which Strauss and Howell, by the way, to give them credit in the book, the fourth turning, this again is written in 95 or 9060, something like that. They said there would be a major financial crisis. They did not know what, but some sort of crisis occurring between 2005 and 2010. They nailed that. And they said that a crisis period would occur between 2020 and 2030. So let's go back a minute.

Starting point is 00:26:55 Jeffrey Epstein is found dead in his jail cell in August 2019. Okay. What happens after that thief? COVID-19 COVID-19 civil unrest to follow the mandates mass hysteria

Starting point is 00:27:20 just over two years later two and a half years later Ukraine Russia a year and a half after that October 7th and the following war in Gaza in the middle of that Shinso Abe

Starting point is 00:27:33 former leader of Japan assassinated an assassination attempt tapping on Donald Trump, you know, you're talking East and West here, and Shinsawabe was an ally in the East, by the way. That's an important distinction. Trump narrowly misses being killed on the campaign trail. We have the AI takeover come in. We have now an Iran war breaking out in the Middle East that quite literally and figuratively all the above separates East and West potentially and as we are recording this right now, we don't know how much more this is going to

Starting point is 00:28:11 escalate, but it is very scary, which leads to the idea that nuclear weapons, which somehow have been avoided since 1945 at the beginning of this whole cycle, by the way, are now something that's on the table and no, they're not coming from Iran. And in the middle of all this, Jeffrey Epstein himself is clearly a part of what we have referred to many times and will continue to as the super government. S-U-P-R-A, the thing that Tucker Carlson came up with where he describes the presidents, the world leaders, the leaders of economy, the leaders of industry as one layer below a fixer layer of wealthy people who tell those people what to do, working for a top layer, which are bankers and technocrats and the people who actually run the world silently

Starting point is 00:29:00 behind the scenes and that is symbolism for the wealth gap i already mentioned the exponentially growing wealth gap the the ability of a small few to gather more assets of the of the earth than ever before and parallels with the fall of rome when it comes to the elite class separating from the people of an empire that has stretched too big to manage so i was sitting with Andy and I realized or I shouldn't say realized I theorized that Jeffrey Epstein is fucking France Ferdinand. That's set off the whole kitten caboodle of things we've seen. And I actually want to give a ton of credit to Eddie Bravo, who in the words of Tim Dillon, friend of the show, he's been, he's actually been following because like you have public

Starting point is 00:29:56 subscribers and unless he texted me like a year ago. He's like, yo, Eddie Bravo subscribed to us. So shout out Eddie Bravo. But Eddie went on a podcast with Joe Rogan in 2024 and predicted that World War III would happen, which to be clear, it hasn't happened yet. However, there would be World War III burgeoning from the Middle East as a result of the elites getting exposed in the Epstein Petto scandal and wanting to cover it up as a distraction. Oh my God, where have we heard that before? So far, so good, Eddie. So shout out on that. But we are seeing all this come together at once. And also, Dief, I have two links right up there. Let's pull up the first one, the billionaire link. This just is a quick overview of an idea. So rather than I'm reading off

Starting point is 00:30:44 the screen right now from a screen grab that was posted on Twitter by Grizzie, is that right, Dief? Yep. Okay. So rather than just solely a U.S. phenomenon, Oxum's paper demonstrates that a rise in oligarchy is undermining societies worldwide. Think of all. elites. Oxfam's fund reports finds the collective wealth of billionaires last year surged by 3.5 trillion, almost equivalent to the total wealth held by the bottom half of humanity, 4.1 billion people. How could that possibly end badly? The number of billionaires top 3,000 last year for the first time with the richest Elon Musk becoming the first ever to surpass half a trillion dollars. More on that in a second. Billionaires are 4,000 times more likely to hold

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Starting point is 00:32:36 It doesn't appear he went to the island. We do a proof in the files that he did meet with Epstein, though. And obviously, he was going back and forth with him personally in emails, which is not a great look. And I do think he has to answer for that. Elon Musk is also a guy who bought X. And regardless of what you think of his opinions or whatever, you know, that platform and social media in general was censoring the shit out of people. And since he did that, it is inarguable that. that not only did that clearly change X, it has, in addition to some other things happening since then,

Starting point is 00:33:10 cleared things on other platforms as well. I can see things on Instagram that never would have passed even two years ago or a year ago. And I don't take that for granted. That may not hold up, but I give Elon, whether he's the richest guy in the world or not, a ton of credit for that. That said, Elon Musk doesn't shut up about the Ukraine war. And I got no problem with that. We've been funning the shit out of that. There's almost two million casualties there. It's a mess.

Starting point is 00:33:41 It should not be understated what a mess that is and a failure of the world to fix that situation and actually try to come to a peace solution. Elon Musk talks about it all the goddamn time. As of the time of this recording on Thursday evening, again, this episode's coming out Saturday. I've not heard one word about this Iran war. not one word and that's really interesting to me really interesting now friend of the show riz verk it's been on the show a couple times great guy simulation theories from mit put out a reply tweet where someone talked about that where he said refer to elin's episode on rogan i guess the latest

Starting point is 00:34:27 one where he said there are certain things that if he talked about it, he believes he would be assassinated. That's good. And wasn't XAI meeting to consult with, um, oh no, is real like a month ago? That's real. I think I had showed that to you when we were hanging. And he's trying to consult them to make Israel quote like the AI superpower. Yes. I could, I could pull that up to me. No, you are correct. Netanyahu talked about he had a personal meeting with Elon Musk to make Israel a AI superpower. It's just it's an AI superpower, I should say.

Starting point is 00:35:09 It's just fascinating to me that as of this time, he's not commenting on that because again, this is no slight at the lives being lost in Russia and Ukraine right now, which again is a disgrace that's still going on. but like this is a way bigger deal potentially in iran if it somehow deescalates and i will give credit to parties involved if it does i would be very happy if that is what happens here then we can avert some issues but we're talking some civilizational things here so to round out the point about franz ferdinand if you've ever seen that meme and i know elons used this meme of the dude standing in front of the domino yeah i don't know if you can find that picture, Deep. And you just see all the stacks behind him and it's like when you're about to push something

Starting point is 00:35:58 and the whole butterfly effect is going to fucking blow up and explode. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, Deves got it right here. Where the guy's about to push it over? So everyone sees that? That's Epstein. That was Franz Ferdinand, but that's Epstein. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:20 You want to go back to the Revolution and see the buildup to that? The World War I before the Revolution looked at. no farther than the French Indian War. French and Indian War. It all, everything happens in these patterns. That's why the fourth turning is so effective. But I had never thought of Epstein in the context of the fourth turning, and now I can't fucking unsee it.

Starting point is 00:36:42 So keep your eye on that. And again, I'm hoping to see us avert the final coming of a crisis that we're talking about. When you have, by the way, when you have people talking about biblical war, I'll talk about this more later. Oh, yeah. That scares the shit out of me. Me too, brother. All right.

Starting point is 00:36:59 This is where I want everyone to practice their organized religion freely. And again, most people use that for a great thing and get inner peace. And I think that's awesome. But when war decisions, as they unfortunately have always been made, are being made on the basis of betting that you're right about the afterlife, which if there's one thing we all have fucking in common besides the fact that we're going to die, it's that we don't know what happens when we do. But you're going to bet on that with people's lives here on this earth. Fuck that and fuck you. Now, Dief, now that we got that out of the way. My favorite, and I say this seriously, my favorite performer of all time,

Starting point is 00:37:48 came out of retirement involuntarily this past week. And that is not an endorsement of this person as a person. In fact, if there is a hell, he's on. a one-way trip there. But I am telling you, there is no greater show on earth than William Jefferson Clinton. Yeah. Because this is a man who even with his shaking, I don't know, pre-Parkinson's old man fucking charm that he still has on, he says things in a way and in a delivery and in a physical act to the point that, yes, we know it's a complete lie.

Starting point is 00:38:28 it's a verifiable lie. But you believe that he believes it. Yeah. And God damn it, he does. So first of all, I do actually have to say this because last week there was something I didn't know. And I said it and we're always going to be fair. I'm going to correct the record. Because Hillary actually pointed this out because both Hillary and Bill were deposed this week by the House GOP at their home in Chappaqua to go through their ties to Jeffrey Epstein.

Starting point is 00:38:56 But I had said it was very disappointing to me that elites like Wexner and the Clintons were getting to do their depositions on their turf. Now, I still haven't checked out the Wexner thing in the backstory there, but I can speak on the Clintons. The Clintons wanted to do this in D.C. And it was actually James Comer from the Republican Party who said, no, no, no, no, no, you're going to do it behind closed doors in Chappaqua at your house. And so Hillary complained about that immediately after the deposition publicly. And I actually was like, you know what? Yeah, she's right. I would have rather seen this done in D.C.

Starting point is 00:39:37 just like everyone else too. But that was a decision of the opposing party. I don't know why. They should have to face the music just like Pam Bondi did, just like all these people do and should. Obviously, they're looking to call Bill Gates and all these different people now. Sarah Kellyn, like before the commencement. middy over, I guess, like, April, May, and June, we're hearing that. I guess, like, more to come on the confirmations, but, like, they're going to go in front of the public right now as it stands.

Starting point is 00:40:06 These guys should go in front of them, too. But it was apparently not the Clinton's decision for once. There was also, by the way, before I get into some of the videos to break this down, Thief, there was a story in the Atlantic that gave a behind the scenes. And, you know, I read everything. obviously there is left and right bias depending on any publication you're reading and there's so much information floating around about this case that anything you do have to take with a grain of salt where it's not proven by a fucking EFA and a bunch of numbers document and justice.com. Okay. So let's just say it out front. But this article looked into the backstory of how this came to be like this story going public and going through Congress via Thomas Massey and

Starting point is 00:40:54 Roe Kana. And I've said it multiple times now, you know, because obviously the Trump administration is in power. Trump is involved with the story because he knew Jeffrey Epstein and the cover-ups been gross. But, you know, once again, give the Democrats zero credit here. All of their administrations have covered this up, starting with the Clintons who were fucking a part of it. All of their congressmen and senators have covered this up for years. They, this story actually, again from the Atlantic which is more of a left-leaning outlet reported literally what their calculation was behind the scenes Roe Kana was being told not to do it by people

Starting point is 00:41:31 because he would appear as a conspiracy theorist and to his credit he was like fuck that it's not a conspiracy it's real this guy existed he raped a lot of kids and no one's answered for it they got to answer for it so credit to him obviously Thomas Massey did the same thing and they cover that in this story Thomas Massey coming from the right side but when it talked about like it was showing all the resistance massy got in the Republican Party, which was really gross,

Starting point is 00:41:55 but we've already kind of outlined that. So I don't need to go into that again. When it talked about the Democrats, though, all the older Democrats were against doing anything about it and wrote it off as conspiracy crap, which very cold take, guys. The younger Democrats who are less connected to Clinton, in fact, not connected at all, only got on board when they saw that internal polling showed that it would be. a popular thing to do, which is just such a fucking, you know, that's what they reported in the piece. If that's not such a fucking indictment on Washington, D.C., that's why when you see guys like Ted Liu, who lies like a mattress every time he opens his fucking whore mouth, when you see a guy

Starting point is 00:42:39 like that getting Ws here because he gets to read from a document that already has the answer for him and it's politically expedient for him to do so, fuck him. you know i'll look at the information because unfortunately sometimes he's reading the information sometimes it's actually real but like we're not giving these people credit you don't get to cover things up for three decades four decades whatever it's been and then be like oh well now you know we're doing it no it's just expedient politically now for you to do it and i just found that story again if true it's from a lot of reports from sources on the inside so i encourage you guys go read it yourself and make your own conclusions but i found that story particularly stomach turning and just another

Starting point is 00:43:22 example of how why when i have to drive anywhere within the area code of washington dc i make sure the navigator takes me on the roads that go around it fucking hate that place no disrespect to the people that live there i'm sure i'm sure you like it it's all right you won't find me there very much. Okay. I think I've been there like twice in my life. That's two times too many. Yeah, it's all right. DC. Don't, don't do that, D. If you know you hate it. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying. I've only been there once or twice. It ain't nothing special. You're not missing much. Okay. Can you pull up the first video? We don't even need, we need no sound on this. This is a good. This is a good video. This is a way, and make it full screen. This is just all time, which by the way, keep it, put it full

Starting point is 00:44:08 screen and keep it on pause. We got to, we got to the first frame. Yeah. We got to look at the optics here. So real quick, before I go into this video, you see the woman to the right, right there. Uh-huh. We know her. You know what her name is? Cheryl. Cheryl Mills.

Starting point is 00:44:26 Cheryl Mills was basically like Hillary Clinton's chief of staff when she was secretary of stage. She was Bill Clinton's attorney back in the impeachment days. She'd been around them forever. Let's X out of the full screen for a second. We're going to hold that for a second. I know you're a fucking right. ready to roll. But, you know, you would think, you would, you would just think, you would even give the Clintons like this grace of credit that, like, they would think about this ahead of time.

Starting point is 00:44:56 If you're going to go do subpoenaed testimony on your relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, that includes 25 to 27 flights, a lot of hot tubs, places around the world, women in pictures with you, including some who were underage, and 18, 17, 18, 18, 18, known trips into your White House through the back door. Not a good look, by the way, they help fund the Clinton Initiative. We'll get to that in a minute. If you're going to do that and put on your performance, if you will, do you know how many great qualified lawyers someone like that Clintons could not only afford to hire because they're worth hundreds of millions of dollars, but they are connected to to hire? You and I both know. It's unlimited. Yet they pick Cheryl Mill

Starting point is 00:45:43 who, of all people, in addition to be at the middle of the fucking email scandal with Hillary, in addition to being at the middle of the Benghazi scandal with Hillary, in addition to be in the middle of the impeachment scandal, which involved a fucking blowjob in the Oval Office with a woman who was very, very young, more on that later. You know, you would think that that alone would be enough to be like, you know, maybe we'll get someone else besides Cheryl to sit next to us on this camera. But it's worse than that.

Starting point is 00:46:10 You got the email beef? Cheryl Mills I send it to you in text Cheryl Mills is in the Epstein files like you literally can't make this shit up she is in the Epstein files talking with her girl Gieland Maxwell

Starting point is 00:46:27 and going back and forth the other one Steve to actually show the emails there were three I sent you but she's going back and forth with Gieland Maxwell who is at the very middle of the testimony they're doing He has that up on the screen right now. So what is the first one to Cheryl Mills from GMAX?

Starting point is 00:46:48 Hey, I'm currently in my bikini in Palm Beach. I'm trying not to make you jealous or anything. Carol is great. Actually, she may be gone for too long as she may come to work well if my deal goes through. I'm not dumb. It took me so long to make one girlfriend. I'm not prepared to lose her. And Cheryl goes, what did she respond?

Starting point is 00:47:10 Is today really your birthday? It's your birthday of one of my greatest friends, and it would not at all be surprising that you shared it. So happy birthday, darling. I'll have to do a bit of thinking. That's from Cheryl, right? Hate for you being in Palm Beach. If it weren't your birthday, I'll catch you.

Starting point is 00:47:34 I'll call you what you really are for being there. I don't even know what that means. But basically, they're going back and forth as friends. So you would think the Clintons would be like, know, Cheryl, sit this one out. We'll just hire any other fucking attorney from New York City. And then Cheryl Mills, here's another email, Dief just pulled up. Cheryl Mills, subject, you are unbelievable to what appears to be Gieland Maxwell. Actually, I don't want to say that because this one's redacted. This is a separate email.

Starting point is 00:48:02 But it is to someone redacted, which is interesting. But Cheryl Mills says, only you can take a picture that makes me look good. Thank you. I love you, X-O. Not ideal. Not ideal to have her in there for sure. But let's go back to the video I blue-boasted everyone with the... This is William Jefferson Clinton with his old man charm, being handed pictures. Being handed pictures with Jeffrey Epstein from over the years. And I love how, like, now because he's older and has like a lot of health problems, especially his mouth.

Starting point is 00:48:46 He's just like... He's like... He's got the old man glasses. He's got that in a... Yep. Yep. Yep. But play this.

Starting point is 00:48:53 I tweeted this out the other night. And then it actually, a lot of people were tweeting it out. A little plagiarism going on there. But she tries to take it away from him. It goes, don't look at this. Bill. And he's like, no, give it back.

Starting point is 00:49:03 Give it back. Motherfucker is reminiscent on the good old days. He is looking at this going, oh my God. That was a great time out in Bahrain. I remember, oh, Jeffrey, we were getting after. Wow, look at that. And he crosses his arms.

Starting point is 00:49:19 Just like, oh, what a memory. That's good. So, like, I will say this about Bo Clinton. If there's one person who has ever given absolutely zero fucks, you know, besides Donald J. Trump, it's Bill Clinton. You know, these are two guys in that respect, two peas in a pod. But Bill Clinton also said something really interesting about his relationship with Guy Lenton. Maxwell that is tying right into the supra government idea. It is the second link there.

Starting point is 00:49:48 You know what one I'm talking about, Dief. Let's pull that up and allow President Clinton to do the talking on it. Full screener. Boom. Boom. Was her friend not Epstein's friend? Is that accurate? I would say that it was accurate to say that I felt closer to her than him.

Starting point is 00:50:11 To Gie Len. And for the record, why was that? Because I had seen her more and because she was very good friends with Evelyn Rothschild and his wife Lynn, whom I knew and was in regular touch with. She stated that President Clinton was her. So there's also that pause at the end where he stares him down, whom I knew and was in regular touch with. Former United States President who also presided over probably like to this point. point economically, socially, culturally, regardless of whether he was the guy, the reason for this or not. That's not what I'm saying. But he presided over the 1990s, which I would say was probably

Starting point is 00:50:57 the best time in American history to this point. Being in a regular touch with Avalinda Rothschild and saying it so openly, just as we saw Wexner say that so openly, just as we have seen them so openly hiring one fixer named Jeffrey Epstein to do their bidding around the world and tell people like Peter Thiel that he works for them and then he's correct in saying that. I'm referring to Jeffrey Epstein's email to Peter Thiel in 2016 where he specifically says that. It doesn't exactly help the tamp down the conspiracy theories, if you will, about bankers wars and things like that. It's just very interesting to see a name of a prominent banking family that we know the history of

Starting point is 00:51:44 that people generally never fucking say out loud, people who operate in. the shadows. It's very interesting to see it actually unforcibly explicitly mentioned by such powerful people on camera left and right recently. Les Wexner did not have to bring them up in his deposition. He brought them up personally when they were asking him about why he hired Jeffrey Epstein. He mentioned that he spoke to, I forget which Rothschild it was. It might have been Evelyn, actually. No. No. No, it might have been Evelyn. But I have Don't quote me on that, which is exactly who Clinton just said.

Starting point is 00:52:23 That's pretty interesting. And he mentioned how, yeah, he said Ellie de Rothschild. So I think that's the same person, you know, and he volunteered that information. Clinton just volunteered. He didn't have to say that, but he did. That's fascinating to me. Very fascinating to me. You see the liked them, you know what, thief?

Starting point is 00:52:47 Yeah. What do you think of that? Let's take a look at this one. Because he got caught on this one. Pause it. And let's get volume before we start it so we can get the full question. All right. Volumes there.

Starting point is 00:52:58 Full screen. Boom. Go. Witnesses who testified in the Epstein cases that Epstein said, you quote, like them young. Why would Epstein say that about you? Are you asking him his opinion? Look at him. I'm asking him to think about why Mr. Epstein would say something about him.

Starting point is 00:53:14 So she's asking you to try to be in Mr. Epstein's mind and guess at what Mr. Epstein would have thought about... Clinton likes them young referring to girls. First of all, that's not true. What's not true? That I have any interest in underage. I didn't say underage, I said young. But it's still not true.

Starting point is 00:53:46 Is an intern young? Yes. Okay. In my age, anybody younger than I am. Did you know Jeffrey Epstein instructed a witness to deny you were ever on his island? He didn't have to since I was never there. Did you ever travel to Zoro Ranch?

Starting point is 00:54:06 Is that the one in New Mexico? Yes. No. Looked away. Looked away. ...tive one else's private jet 26 times or more for overseas trips. I have flown as many miles on other jets, but never with as many stops. She knows the miles.

Starting point is 00:54:23 How many other people's planes have you used like up steam 26 times or miles, etc.? I don't know. with Steve Bing, who is now deceased, and probably with law fellows. Okay. So maybe about a half dozen millionaires total, so. How many dinners did you have with Elaine Maxwell or Jeffrey Epstein in attendance? She's asking to the best of your recollects. I have no idea.

Starting point is 00:54:52 Okay. Did you ever discuss sexual misconduct allegations made against you with Epstein or Maxwell? Never. Did Epstein or Maxwell ever offer to help manager silence women who made sex? misconduct allegations against you? No. Did Epstein or Maxwell ever offer financial support directly or indirectly to legal defense funds related to impeachment proceedings or civil actions against you?

Starting point is 00:55:13 Not to my knowledge. Do you think a young girl massaging of president is unusual? So are you asking his opinion? Well, he was massaged by a young woman. I'm asking if he thinks it's unusual that a president, sitting president of the United States, leader of the free world, that it's unusual a young woman would be... Are you talking to the instance of... Yes, is it unusual the back massage that occurred while he was not president.

Starting point is 00:55:36 I'm just trying to understand. You said a president of the United States. Former president? Thank you. Just trying to make sure we're correcting the time. No, I don't need to. I'm actually trying to make sure that as you... He said he was a sitting president.

Starting point is 00:55:48 Excuse me, could we just please go one of the time? Thank you. You said a sitting president, I want you to be clear so that when he answers you, the record is clear. Is it unusual? I have no idea if it's unusual. Objection calls for speculation. I figured. Do you ever, did you ever think that all these women around Jeffrey Epstein or Gilling Maxwell was odd, unusual, weird, or creepy?

Starting point is 00:56:12 There weren't all that many around when I was there. How many would you say is all not all that many? I think on this big plane that was working long hours, having two to four people on there, I thought it was, as far as I knew, they were all helping. Flight attendants and tank tops and jeans, right? No. Do you believe you were a victim of a Jeffrey Epstein Intel operation? Do you think that you might have been caught up in some of what he was maybe potentially doing? Excuse me, Congressman, which question are you asking? Intel operation?

Starting point is 00:56:49 First of all, I don't. Some type of Intel operation. I'm just curious because it's been speculated on today and yesterday that he may have been an Intel asset. Do you think perhaps knowing what we know now, the proclivity of it all? that he may have been targeting you as part of an Intel operation. I doubt it. In 2019, you stated after. That's, you could see.

Starting point is 00:57:12 So when he was asked the intel question there at the end at the beginning of that low part, his whole forehead shifted when she asked him if he had been a target. And then when he said, I doubt it. And again, I'm not a body language expert, but these are some pretty common ones spitting out. And I'd love to get some of the body language people on YouTube to break this down. but when he said I doubt it right there, he squinted his eyes real tight. Now,

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Starting point is 00:58:22 And then he locked the fuck in. And Cheryl came in and he was answering things real confident with that little sly look up. Came in like his auntie. Yeah. And that's the thing. like him, he can lie like a mattress and really get himself into a mind state where he's like, all right, I'm going to do it, but I'm going to believe it. And that's what it is. Where do you think they did that in their house? You know, I was wondering that. It's like the microphones and everything.

Starting point is 00:58:49 It's got the grand dais there. What do you think goes through his head as they're setting up production? Like as he's like in his robe having a coffee and they're setting the table and the lights and the audio and he's just like, fuck, they're going to try and fry me in here. My, showtime you look mighty fine yeah it makes a slide comment yeah yeah yeah he's just the dog

Starting point is 00:59:16 uh man and indeed we got to play the Mark Middleton thing so Mark Middleton is the White House aide who was directly connected to many of the visits of Jeffrey Epstein in the White House who unalived himself

Starting point is 00:59:32 by hanging himself I'm not laughing at the fact that he's dead. I'm laughing at the circumstances. I believe it was, we're going to find out in the clip in a second, but hanging himself from a tree while simultaneously taking a shotgun to his chest, which, I mean, what an acrobatic way to leave this earth. If I may say so myself, let's play this right here, Dief. Because like, man, oh, man.

Starting point is 01:00:04 Are you aware that Mr. Middleton committed six? suicide in 2022. He was found dead at Hefner Ranch, approximately 30 miles from his home in Little Rock. He was discovered hanging from a tree by an extinction cord around his neck with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the chest. So he was shot and hung. He was like, yeah, he nods. Do you have any information that leads you to do that?

Starting point is 01:00:32 Do you have any information that leads you to? suspect that he was that he did not that he did something other than commit suicide no okay do you have any concerns that he wanted to say so much was in relation to his knowledge or relationship with geoffrey epstein given the date the president has already testified to the fact that he was unaware that mr absin was visiting the white house so are you asking him then as to what he would have known i'm asking when you heard about the death knowing about the things that have been you know at this point it's all over the news, seeing that he has committed suicide. Have you ever had any conversations with people about whether or not this,

Starting point is 01:01:15 that there's any relationship between the two? Oh, no. No one's ever suggested it to me. Okay. Thank you. Go to Google, motherfucker. Yeah, that was, I mean, they really came with hardballs. And like, we were listening to Nancy Mace earlier when she was questioning him.

Starting point is 01:01:32 She didn't stutter once. I mean, I was very impressed with how on the ball. a lot of a lot of the footage i i heard was from from the people interviewing him and yeah something like that should be brought up people joke about the clinton body cow but people die around them and they die in very weird circumstances including that one i think being the weirdest like oh yeah he hung himself with an extension cord and shot himself in the chest sure that's logical but there is another subplot that has happened over the past couple weeks with bill clinton that is completely inexplicable to me.

Starting point is 01:02:09 And it's very suspicious. And it involves Donald Trump. Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, we know we're friends at one point. We know they're both dogs. You know, it's not illegal to be a dog. But certainly illegal to be a dog if it's around underage women. Around puppies. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:02:27 Understand. You could be a dog around some other dogs, but not around them puppies. Sorry. All right, let's bring it back, folks. Reel it back. Anyway, that was good, though. That was, it was good. It was good. It was good.

Starting point is 01:02:46 It's funny. Because, like, you gotta have fun in life, even when things are very, very bad. But it is what it is. That said, Donald Trump and Bill Clinton could not possibly be friends after Trump ran for president. Because Trump decided immediately upon running in 2015 to turn his guns on Hillary. and use those guns also, and I mean that figuratively, not literally, to go after Bill. I mean, when Trump was even late in the campaign when he was caught with the grab-em tape, his apology video 15 seconds in and said, yeah, I apologize, it's so bad, but Bill Clinton raped people.

Starting point is 01:03:29 He's horrible. And if you remember, a couple, that was a Friday night. A couple nights after that was a Sunday where it was the second presidential debate. This is October 2016. I think that debate was like October 9th. And Donald Trump, showman that he is, shocked the world by holding a press conference unannounced right before the debate, which was going to be in an intimate setting where he would be about 10 feet from Bill Clinton sitting right there supporting his wife, business partner, I should probably say. But, you know, Donald Trump held a press conference with all the women who had publicly accused Bill Clinton of rape

Starting point is 01:04:07 in the past and it was I've never seen anything like that in my life and then he goes in to the debate and he has to apologize at the beginning this is the one where he's like standing behind Hillary staring down at her

Starting point is 01:04:22 and it gets to him and he's doing his like kind of half-ass apology and then he goes but Bill Clinton and I think he even pointed Bill Clinton raped women and there's an image of Clinton I don't know if we can pull it up deep

Starting point is 01:04:36 but Clinton Trump debate eyes. There's an image of him staring back like death itself that Donald Trump accused him of that on international television and the biggest stakes debate in the world. And I say, yeah, that's it right there, Bill with his daughter. They were both sitting right there. And he's just staring at Trump like he just crossed a Rubicon that is beyond anything he had ever imagined. And I say that because you are never going to fucking be friends with someone like that under any circumstances ever for the rest of eternity, let alone your time here on earth. I think we can all agree on that. Any friendship that may or may not have

Starting point is 01:05:22 still existed and it definitely didn't still exist at that point is dead, gone, finished, you're done. And yet a very interesting subplot has happened here. We're out of nowhere after over a decade of shredding the Clintons inside and out. Donald Trump went on camera two weeks ago in some interview with someone. I don't remember who. And he was asked about Bill Clinton and he goes, you know, I still like Bill Clinton.

Starting point is 01:05:46 I don't like everyone going after. I'm paraphrasing right here. But he said, I still like Bill Clinton. Like, what the fuck? What do you mean you still like Bill Clinton? The guy you called a rapist on international TV and held a press conference with all the women that have accused him?

Starting point is 01:06:01 Like, no, you don't. I'm not even saying you're wrong about that either. but like you're not friends with him so it's also interesting that when Bill and Hill Dog are ready to go down with the ship and take everyone with him including Trump that's where the Tim Dillon song comes in

Starting point is 01:06:17 we fetter to the shock right that you know what world's ending our world's ending might as well tear it all down with us including Donald like that's our last act you would think that he'd take the chance to do that defund the take

Starting point is 01:06:35 I hate this, because I don't believe I should inject anything. But I do not want to leave the impression. But since there was no follow-up question, he never, the president, never, this is 20-something years ago, never said anything to me to make me think he was involved in anything improperly with regard to abstain either. He just didn't. All right. That's the truth.

Starting point is 01:07:06 Wait, wait, wait. As I said earlier, the only conversation I have with President Trump about this was in the early 2000s. And I have no information that he did anything wrong. I just want it all out there. I want everybody to get all out there. Look at him holding his arm to see where we are. Okay. He said the first part right there, especially the second part I can't confirm this.

Starting point is 01:07:39 because that was from a later point, like it cut off halfway and went to a later point from the deposition. But the first one, he interjected that. It was voluntary. He was not asked about that. But he wanted to go on record and say he had no information that Donald Trump could have possibly been attached to Jeffrey Epstein based on what he knew. So you have two guys who have publicly had beef to the nth degree that makes Didian 50 cents. look like child's play. That's actually a really, that's a bad way to put it. But you know what I mean? Sorry, it is. And now they're both going out of their way to say the other guys are right.

Starting point is 01:08:26 If you are not sketched out by that or suspicious of that, yeah, I don't know what's stuck in your eyes or your ears. Unclog them. That was the craziest thing that happened because of, of what Trump said a couple weeks ago. That dynamic is insane. Now, that's a lot of the highlights of Bill. There was another thing, like, I'm not going to get too deep into this, but it's confirmed on J-Mail through the Justice Department drops

Starting point is 01:08:55 of the Epstein files, but like at one point, Epstein was trying to help Clinton, you know, fix up his SEO online and get negative stories taken out about him, which, you know, just shows you the closeness of the relationship. And also it's in the emails with where Geylend, Maxwell talks about how she helped found the Clinton Global Initiative, talking about it very flippantly.

Starting point is 01:09:17 That's confirmed as well. And we also have the picture. Can we pull it up to if it's right there under Hillary of Gieland at the Hillary at the Chelsea Clinton wedding, daughter of the Clintons? She's just leaning right over looking at Bill, taking Chelsea down the aisle. And of course, as Hillary's going to put it, had no idea she was there. So she testified that she had like no relationship with Gieland Maxwell. I believe she called Gieland Maxwell a plus one and she wouldn't have known who the plus one is.

Starting point is 01:09:52 And then Twitter investigators found out that she would have known who the plus one was at that wedding based on previous public comments. Right. Dee, if you saw that as well, I don't want to get too caught in like the fucking, you know, cat fight with that. But very clear that that was a lie under oath. Wait, one more Bill Clinton thing. You see the one where it says, have you ever lied? Yeah. This is a nine second clip.

Starting point is 01:10:15 Just pull this up. So Bill Clinton has asked the following on camera about whether or not he has ever lied under oath. We're in a deposition. Here we go. First question I have for you, Mr. President. Have you ever lied in a deposition? No. Have you ever lied while under oath?

Starting point is 01:10:37 No. First. Okay. So he was quite literally impeached for doing that. So that is perjury right there. But like that's what they do. They just lie. And so Clinton, Hillary Clinton, testifying that like she never knew Gieland Maxwell,

Starting point is 01:10:52 also testifying that she never knew Jeffrey Epstein when Jeffrey Epstein is in the emails talking about her, talking about what she looks like in person and stuff, which she was actually flattered when she heard that part. I don't know if you saw that deep. She's like, I won't argue with that when he said I look better in person. which would imply he's fucking seen her a bunch in person. He is being invited to events that are in the emails that are money fundraisers for Hillary Clinton and there are all kinds of reports unverified at this point that the Clintons spent a lot of time at Zorro Ranch and you heard in an earlier video Bill Clinton explicitly

Starting point is 01:11:25 deny he was like the one in New Mexico, nope, never been there. So again, we got this all on record now and it's going to be interesting to see if evidence comes out that is directly against what they're saying, which would mean that they would be charged with perjury and it's open to the American people because we have now all seen this and you would think that'd be a pretty slam dunk case to be able to put through. But there is, there's two clips of Hillary. I want to go through real quick. Before I say that, Lauren Bobert took a picture of Hillary like secretly in the deposition and Hillary flipped out about it on camera. I'm not going to play the clip because we're not going to have time to do that. But like

Starting point is 01:12:08 Hillary had a right to flip out about that. Like, she did it to send it to fucking Betty, Benny Johnson to get social media clout and whatever. And this was, you know, the Republicans are the ones who asked for the private hearing. So, like, it's just, when politicians are trying to use their little spot for social media clout, like, we're doing something wrong here. And you got to call that out. That was just fucking stupid. I mean, I appreciate it getting the picture selfishly. but like you're not helping the situation doing that.

Starting point is 01:12:40 But there's a video where she's asked about Anthony Weiner in the last 50 seconds. It's a long video. I particularly want to get to the last, get to like three. Yep, right there. Let's do it. My list. That's okay. We're asking all sorts of things here.

Starting point is 01:13:01 You certainly are. We certainly are. We're just trying to get the truth out to the American people. Well, that would be very helpful. Are you aware of any files? that were on Anthony Wiener's laptop in a folder that was titled in insurance, life insurance, with a zip file titled Frazzled. This is way outside of the ruling.

Starting point is 01:13:25 This is this within the scope? Is this within the scope? Mr. Chairman, based on what you said in the public hearing, is this within the scope? We can go off your record for a moment. Mr. Chairman, is this within the scope? We'll go off record and control it. Look at those eyes, bro. So, no proof of anything there, but we have had many reports about the contents of Anthony Weiner's laptop.

Starting point is 01:13:51 And obviously Anthony Weiner was married to Huma Abidine, who was, and still is, Hillary Clinton's right hand. She's now married to Alex Soros. That's not weird at all. And, you know, he's definitely not playing for her team either. It's just, you know, just saying. But that was, I mean, you see her whole body fucking contort and she came up and got in it like she was ready to fight. And then those eyes before that off record could fucking kill. So it'll be interesting to see if that string gets pulled on more because there have been some horrific reports about what's on there.

Starting point is 01:14:30 Now, there's a lot of stuff that I have outlined that we're going to do next week instead because there's one. thing I want to hit before Iran and talking about that, that is important because, as I said at the outset, they will do anything to distract from things like this. This affects everyone in government, bureaucracy. Everyone's a strong word. It affects many powerful people in government, bureaucracy, industry, and society at large, including the society of the super government that you don't see. And very conveniently, since the strikes in Iran that began late Friday night, early Saturday morning, we have seen the DOJ verifying deleted files. In fact, I believe they confirmed the, I have a link right there where the DOJ confirmed it themselves.

Starting point is 01:15:22 DOJ confirms 47,635 Epstein files have been removed per the independent. And that is from March 4th in the middle of all this Iran hysteria. That's great. That's great. And they're going to continue to do this. And they're already in violation of federal law for withholding the final three. million documents, which include a lot between the years of 1999 and 2001. That's not weird at all. Yeah. And then what they do? They gave us, they're releasing 47,000 more withheld Jeffrey Epstein documents by the end of the week. Similar number, by the way. It's almost like they're trying to zero-sum game. Yeah, we'll take the ones we don't want out there, which by the way, the public has probably screenshoted a lot of that, so too late people. Just like they got Howard Lutnik, our friend

Starting point is 01:16:02 pictured on the island. They tried to get that one down, but J-Mail still had it. Can we Google Lutnik Island picture. God, I love this guy. God, I love this guy. You can't even make this stuff up. But this is what they're going to do. If we take our eye off the ball, this is what we're going to do. On this show, we're going to cover current events.

Starting point is 01:16:21 We are going to go through it. That is the format that we're doing with the solo shows. And obviously, it happens sometimes with the guest shows. It's been happening more than usual recently because the world's so crazy where we literally do a current event and cover it. And then I do a lot of podcasts that are stories and all different types of topics and having fun. Like, that's what it is. But we will continue to cover this story no matter what's going on in addition to other things because if we don't, that's what they want. So as we get information,

Starting point is 01:16:49 we will do it because they're going to continue to try to cover this up. And there is Howard on the fucking island that does appear to be his sons next to him on the left. I'm going to guess the guy on the right. I don't know this. I don't know either of these things. But people out there maybe can verify, is perhaps the mail from the other couple he mentioned in that famous, now infamous 2012 email to Jeffrey Epstein, talking about visiting the island. And Twitter sluice were able to pinpoint the fact that in this picture off camera, they are standing right next to the temple, the famous Epstein Island temple. And so the DOJ tried to take this down in the middle of all this Iran hysteria, by the way, like right in the buildup to it. And luckily Jail existed.

Starting point is 01:17:34 and still had it, but they are going to continue to do this, just like the FBI opened a file on Epstein in 1991 and closed it in 1993. We found that out from the files, right conveniently when Bill Clinton got into office, by the way, and then never opened a case on him for another 12 years when he was finally investigated. They do all this right in front of you,

Starting point is 01:17:56 and they're going to continue to do it if you accept it and allow it to happen. I will not, but I'm one, fucking pebble on the water out here in YouTube. I can control what I can control, but that ain't much. It's going to require everyone else out there taking part in not letting something like this die and continuing to report on the information as we get it, which comes out like a log flume every day. Even though we're still missing so many documents that they haven't released illegally, and even though many things are still redacted illegally, including stuff that is beyond what

Starting point is 01:18:32 Rocana was able to confirm publicly was redacted when he listed some of the names. Like, we still have a treasure trove worth of information to piece together and put together with what we have been giving and we have to continue to do that. So there are some people doing amazing, amazing work on Twitter and I'm following a lot of it. I am going to be having Henry Abbott in here, by the way, before I get to this the next point, I want to say this. Henry Abbott is the guy that I've shouted out many times on the show for years who is an MBA. reporter who basically fell down a rabbit hole back in 2021 when he just wanted to investigate the links between Apollo Global who owned had part of the ownership of like two or three

Starting point is 01:19:15 different NBA franchises at the time and their connections to Jeffrey Epstein. It turned into this 21 chapter Odyssey on his on his blog True Hoop that effectively laid out the ties of Epstein going all the way back to the fucking treaty of Versailles. And I've cited the work so many times over the years because it's incredible, but Henry finally actually heard it on the podcast with John Curiacou and was really excited. So I finally got to talk with him. Great guy. He's going to be coming on. And we will discuss all that work and try to open up some loops so that you guys out there can work with the information that he's put together because he also told me this. I hope he's okay with me saying this,

Starting point is 01:19:57 but he's going back to the case. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, he just went right. The dude basically, like, hit a walk-off home run with the Epstein thing, and then went back to reporting about the NBA. He's just, like, cracking his fingers. He's like, shit. And now he's like, shit.

Starting point is 01:20:14 Here we go. Here we go again. Here we go again. But that's awesome. That's going to be cool. I'm very much looking forward to it. But let's get to this Iran war. That is the word our president is using and what's going on here.

Starting point is 01:20:29 Because once again, this is a prime example of many things being true at the same time. Now, you guys have heard me talk about how much I really do take it seriously to be as journalistically balanced as possible. We obviously represent all viewpoints in this studio. There's no greater example than literally having Roya Hukakakian back to back with Ian Carroll in episodes 307 and 308. You got the very pro-Israel and very very...

Starting point is 01:21:01 against Israel back to back. Like that is how I do my show as best I can. I'm not perfect, but I do take that part seriously and I will continue to do that. There is a picture though in my studio up there. If you can hit camera five for a second, I don't know if people can see it. But it's up. If you're looking at me on camera five's off. Okay. Well, there's a picture up there behind me that was in my very first studio in my parents' house as well. That shows a picture a Walter Cronkite. And by the way, Walter Cronkite took a fucking drive-by hitting the Epstein files.

Starting point is 01:21:36 There's a picture of him talking with Jeffrey Epstein, which is really sad. But he was old. There's no emails regarding him or anything like that. So we're going to hope everything's okay there. That said, Walter Cronkite, for people who don't know, is the most famous newscaster to ever live. He is the man who famously delivered the glasses off from Mark with the broken voice.

Starting point is 01:21:57 President Kennedy has died and, you know, told the world that the president had been assassinated officially back in 1963. But there was actually something I learned about in history class, I think in high school. It might have been middle school, but it was definitely by high school, that always stuck with me about a very difficult decision that Cronkite made. And that was, as he was reporting on the Vietnam War, eventually he started going over to Vietnam and he saw the war for what it was, a farce and a catastrophe with corruption and all kinds of problems and an unjust war. And the evidence mounted so significantly that it got to a point to where he said there's no case for the other side. It's gone. This is what it is. And I don't even

Starting point is 01:22:49 think he got to the whole fact that the Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag. He didn't even know that. I'm pretty sure at the time. But everything else, he could see what it was. and he made a very difficult decision that I think about a lot and that is as a man who had been purely the news literally in just a great voice and delivery deliver what had happened that day without any words or interjection of opinions this is a man who was around for the dawn of news on TV when there were two or three fucking channels he made a decision on his reports from Vietnam to begin actually

Starting point is 01:23:26 with evidence clearly interjecting some sort of opinion, if you will, based on that evidence that the war was unjust and wrong. And he helped get that story to the American people who already had a huge problem with the war, but to get it over the top eventually such that the war finally ended.

Starting point is 01:23:48 And I think about this a lot because he made a very difficult, slippery slope decision that I believe was the right decision, but it opened the door for things like 20 plus years later, CNN and Fox and things that call themselves news, but are really just narrative-driven bullshit, it allowed them to be born and hide behind the word news while having clear opinions that brainwashed the American people and out of the direction. And so I've always thought about that a lot. and I knew at some point in my career, there could be a moment not as dramatic as fucking Walter Cronkite being on the ground in Vietnam. Let's not have delusions of grandeur here. But there could be some moments where certain stories get to a point to where you have to say things based on evidence that are clearly reality, regardless of where that lands. And people are going to take it how they take it. And so I will refer to the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and the president of the United States, Donald Trump, in particularly the first two, though, explicitly.

Starting point is 01:24:56 The third one, Donald Trump, a little more implicitly, but that's being nice. It was pretty much explicit. Saying this week that the reason the United States attacked Iran is because Israel had told them we are going in first to attack, fuck you, we're doing it, which was going to put a bull's eye on United States bases and therefore our troops and our assets and the United States. therefore felt forced to attack. I say that because the evidence is clear and it's always been clear that this is Israel's war. This is not our own war. There is no good evidence to the contrary. Take people like Benjamin Netanyahu at their word. Benjamin Netanyahu has been bloodthirstyly yearning for this. Direct quote on the yearning part. He didn't say bloodthirsty, but he said yearning. For over 40 years.

Starting point is 01:25:55 He has wanted to invade Iran for over 40 years. You can run the tape of him saying Iran is a year or a week away from a nuclear bomb for the last 30 plus years. You can run the tape of him testifying in 2002 that says, you must attack Iraq and then you must attack Iran. They are developing nuclear weapons and they will be a threat to America and the world order moving forward. He's been saying this forever. and he told our president fuck you we're going he told him that

Starting point is 01:26:29 at the same time that our president and everyone let's not just let's not single out Trump here we've been listening off a bunch of people over the past several weeks are facing the most existential crisis of the elite class in the history of probably America with these Epstein files which implicate Israel they certainly implicate the CIA as well to be clear But Jeffrey Epstein was working with Mossad. And he was working with them in a dominant capacity.

Starting point is 01:26:58 I will say that. I still believe that in the evidence that he was most dominantly working with Mossad over CIA. It's very clear he was working with CIA. It's very clear that that may go back longer than I first thought for sure. And we will continue to investigate all those loops. But this is a man who was born in America, rose up in a very weird version of it. the American dream, certainly had a lot of things suspiciously handed to him in this country and worked against its interests with a foreign nation that claims at all times to be our

Starting point is 01:27:33 greatest ally that pays 93 of our 100 senators lobbying money to say those exact words, sends them over to fucking Israel to talk about how we need to protect our greatest ally at all fucking costs and goes to primary people like Thomas Massey when they dare step out of line and say otherwise. They've done it again. And again and again, of course, I'm talking about APEC. There's also a Republican Jewish coalition. And I say that because all of these organizations, unfortunately, give an awful name, an unfair name to all Jewish people around the world. You have a radical section of them that I will refer to as like the Zionist Israeli government and their Zionist supporters around the world, which in some cases are Christians and other cases are Jewish people. that then speak for the entire diaspora, which is completely unfair. And the madman campaign that they have led into this war is disgusting. Now, I said there's multiple thoughts to be held at the same time here, so we're going to hold them.

Starting point is 01:28:42 I will not shed a tear over Ayatollah Khomeini being dead. This was an awful man. Iran is a nation of approximately 92 million people. they have lived under an iron fist for the last 47 years. They have been tortured, imprisoned, and killed by their government, which duped them into a revolution in 1979 with false promises that they changed on day one. And the IRGC is a horrible organization of people. And I have said it publicly a million times and I will continue to say it. I strongly hope the Iranian people rise up and take them out of power.

Starting point is 01:29:20 Now listen to how I said that. That's how I've always said it. Because the reality is the world is a very complicated place. And I feel things very viscerally, but there are dictators, there are tyrants, and there are innocent civilians who die. It is a horrible thing. That does not mean that foreign nations like us, the United States, are therefore in a positioned to make things better by going in and doing regime change. Goddafi was a bad guy in Libya. Look what happened when we did that. Saddam Hussein was an awful guy in Iraq. I would argue ISIS was a lot worse. That's what came after. Regime changes cause chaos. They foment chaos. And in many ways, that's the point. That's what your intelligence operations do. That's what the CIA does. let's not single out Massad here. That's what CIA does. That's what Massad does. At the very least, it's what factions of them do. And we are seeing it play out once again. And we are seeing it play out at the best of a country that has wanted to use us, the Americans on the front lines, to fight their

Starting point is 01:30:39 wars. And so I do hope the Iranian people overthrow their regime. And I hope it happens after we fucking pull our troops, write the fuck out of there. As of the time of this recording, there are six confirmed deaths of American soldiers. You know how much I care about our military guys. You know how much reverence I treat them with when they come in here. I love these guys. And I will fully admit, I take their opinions. I give their opinions way more leeway than anyone else because they've earned it. They've done something that I never did. They volunteered to go serve their country. Many of them, obviously, who were in here, fought on the front lines, lost friends. These are sacrifices that I have never understood and that I hold in the utmost highest regard.

Starting point is 01:31:27 And so when I see some of those guys, including kids, there was a 20-year-old in there who was killed, killed in a war that was completely unnecessary. Started on a lie. Iran does not have nuclear weapons. They're nowhere close to it. I'm disgusted by that when I see that. again i'd love the iranian regime gone there's a lot of other things at play here they are partnered on oil with china and russia and other places this is literally geographically and figuratively

Starting point is 01:31:59 the center of the east-west conflict playing out right here they are now looking at closing the strait of hormos probably saying that wrong that you know is going to cause massive economic implications by the way that's why we did venezuela they were just preparing for the oil right there funny how we invaded Venezuela like two days after Netanyahu's hanging out with Trump at Mar-a-Lago for New Year's. You know, gas prices are still going up, too. Yeah. Yeah. And Trump was like, it'll be worth it to protect Israel. Listen, to see something from Israel's perspective, yes, Iran is in some ways a serious, serious threat to them. They are not to the United States. We've seen it again and again.

Starting point is 01:32:48 Paper Tiger. They come out and they say death to America, death to Israel. They do all this stuff. And then when we hit them with anything, they don't do fuck all about it. Okay. We've seen it again. I mean, look at January 2020. We took out Qasem Soleimani.

Starting point is 01:33:04 I remember getting reports behind the scenes about how up in arms people in the White House were that Trump did that. They thought it was so careless. And the Iranians blink. They bombed a U.S. base or something. I don't even remember if we'd live. lost any people. No, I'm pretty sure they bombed. Check that D if I don't want to mess that up, but you get the point. They ain't like that, bro. And so the thing about Iran is that they're an

Starting point is 01:33:37 enemy. They're horrible people, but they tell you they're your enemy. They don't hide it. They stand right outside your house, not literally. They stand across the world looking at your house on a fucking screen, and do their propaganda and say, death to America, and I can appreciate that I know where they stand. Not excusing it. Think it's horrible. I know where they stand. They're a wolf. A wolf that don't got a lot of bite when it comes to us, but they're a wolf. On the contrary, when I see a country force all of our politicians to give hostage videos, basically, to say how much they love it and that they're our greatest ally, continually forcing us into wars that are not in our interest and costing our guys' lives at their behest

Starting point is 01:34:28 and blackmailing our people with things like the Epstein files, which also, again, CIA's got blaming that too. Let's not just point the finger at Israel. But when I see that, that to me is a wolf and sheep's clothing. They come to you and they tell you you're their friend. They walk in your front door. They eat dinner with you. maybe they sit on your lap and let you pet them they tell you it was a great meal

Starting point is 01:34:53 and then when they need to eat you they eat you and I'm seeing way too many patterns with that with the Israeli government and I will say it that way is the Israeli government I will never collectively hold people responsible for that that's not what it is we know a lot of the people in Israel don't support Netanyahu's government

Starting point is 01:35:12 and those are the hardliners those are the greater Israel people but to see this play out as it is you have to realize the world is based on power dynamics all right Iran they ain't like that economically

Starting point is 01:35:28 I mean we shut them off from the world Scott Besant bragged about all you know treasury secretary bragged about all the new sanctions he put on him a few months ago or whatever it was which forced the economy into turmoil he bragged about sending their currency to basically zero put the people in the streets and then the regime which is tyrannical, killed all the people. The regime deserves no exoneration for that to be clear,

Starting point is 01:35:50 but also like, who's causing that and laughing about it? Does that sound like we're the good guys there? It doesn't to me. No. So you need to realize something like this has massive implications. Iran does not have nukes. Israel does. They're, of course, the only country that doesn't admit it. used our stuff to get it in the 60s. Verified, Newmec, look it up. But I don't appreciate the sheep clothing on the wolf. And there needs to be a serious conversation about the hijacking that the Israeli government is doing of not just our decision making here, but of the Jewish people around the world. because it makes me sick how uncomfortable is getting from many of them.

Starting point is 01:36:48 And I do not stand for that at all. And I will call that out. But I got no love for the Israeli government. And there's every piece of evidence to see that. Look no farther than the fact that this was reported. I believe in Israeli outlets, American outlets, you know, obviously there's fog of war stuff. But the Israelis were spying on the Trump administration's communications with Iran where they're trying to talk about peace and Netanyahu called Trump reportedly to make sure

Starting point is 01:37:18 he didn't negotiate peace. Fuck you. I'm not suicidal. I never have been. I love my life. Things are going great. I hope this war ends peacefully for all parties involved, including Israel, and I hope it ends quickly. And I hope new leadership can come in there because I know a lot of their people want it. And I will support the Israeli people and getting new leadership over there for sure. But it's on you guys. Just like it's on the people of Iran to overthrow your government, it's on the Israeli people to look at doing that too. We'll close it there and I'll see you guys next week.

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