Julian Dorey Podcast - #411 - MISSING 11 "Scientists," Epstein's Iran Negotiator & UFO Lies | Julian Dorey

Episode Date: April 18, 2026

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If not, I will find you. and I will kill you. Like, so if you wonder, maybe this call goes to other people Los Alamos who were like, yes, see no evil here, no evil, listen, bro. Yeah, I was just smoking weed out back on my break. I didn't see anything about that nuclear bomb

being brought in with a blue alien. You don't even have to do the fucking men in black thing on me. Like, we're good, fam. I ain't going to say shit. And, you know, then they get a dead bird in their mail as a reminder. and they're like, look around all scared. Someone fucking pictures them in the unmarked car over there and points at them and then drives away really slowly and they shake and go inside.

And that person then reports back like, yeah, now he's scared shitless. We're good. But maybe Cassius, maybe. Again, pure spec. Peer spec. Maybe she was like, this is wrong. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Julian Dory podcast.

I am Julian Dory. And I'm Joey Dief. How you done? How you doing? Well, the world is burning. People are dying and scientists are missing. But all is well, Joey Dief. All is well.

All is wonderful. Right? Yep. And there's going to be a lot of pure spec today. Like, that was the theme of our little meetup for the last half hour discussing this before we went on. Yeah. Yes, we are going to be discussing the now up to 11 missing scientists. and you'll see why I'm putting scientists in air quotes as I explain that.

We're going to be going through that whole thing today. I also have a great guest coming in next week where we will turn the episode around right away who has been knee-deep in this story for a long time and really knows what they're talking about. So stay tuned for that. But yeah, there was also, by the way, Defe, a little, they called it a crisis meeting last week that went very under the radar in Washington, D.C. I don't even remember the name of the hotel.

But it was our friends, Deef. It was our friends at Bilderberg. I know you're like a long-time associate of them. You used to deliver pizzas over there, right? They put me through college. That's right. That's right. And he still has college debt, so jokes on it.

But anyway, so yeah, that kind of happened without anyone talking about it. And there was a dude. We'll give him a shout out later who was there covering it and presumably the only person covering it. But he got some really, really good information as far as who was. there and what they were talking about. So we will get to that. There was also some resignations this week. You had Eric Swalwell step aside and then Gonzalez from the Republican side step aside, a Democrat and Republican, respectively, for different types of degrees of allegations, but allegations

involving sexual misconduct. And there were just, it's a lot of interesting, how do I put this, saving face going on there from Washington, D.C. But what the fuck else is now? Sounds about right. Sounds about right. So we will talk about all that. So missing scientists coming in a few minutes. But before then, last week in episode 408, we talked about Amanda Ungaro as it related to the

Melania Trump speech where she came out and discussed the Epstein case out of nowhere and said, nobody knew nothing or anybody or anything. Don't worry about it. By the way, I'm rooting for all the victims. Amanda Ungaro is the ex-wife of Palo Zampoli. I'm just going to give a little bit of a of a rewind here for people that didn't see the previous episode. Palo Zampoli, very well-known modeling agent who's been involved at the highest levels of the modeling industry for decades. He is an Italian immigrant to America and someone who Trump has named a special envoy to like the fucking world or some shit.

like some weird title in this administration that didn't previously exist. More on that in a minute. But he's also someone who had a very under the radar title for an under the radar country as well, which I, Defe, I don't understand how all these conflicts of interests that literally don't just involve people criminally or allegations, but also involve like other countries and stuff. I don't know how the club can get away with this, except for the fact that they're going to been getting away within my entire fucking life.

You're thinking too much. Shut up. It's just biz. It's just biz. That's right. It is just biz. At the end of the day. It's just biz. Pure biz. Yep. Okay. Hey guys. If you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star

review. They're both a huge huge help. Thank you. So, Amanda and Garo, we've recorded that episode like Friday evening. We put it out Saturday. On Saturday, shout out to my guy, Dan DeLuca, for pointing this out. On Saturday, all of the tweets that we had discussed that Amanda Ungaro had written in the day leading up to, and then I believe the same day as well where Melania gave the speech, they were deleted. And then I watched on Sunday, Monday-ish, I wish I screenshot it if I had shot at them, I should have. but I watched Amanda continue to tweet after she had deleted those tweets.

And now I went in today and she's deleted those tweets. She's almost like sending out, say, two to four tweets at a time, deleting them and sending out two to four more. And they're all veiled threats. And she is presumably tweeting from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, because she was deported. And we explained last week why she was deported. She, I believe, was now married to or was in a relationship. I saw some reports on that, but it's a little hazy with this Brazilian doctor who was operating a clinic in America illegally because he was not a registered doctor in America. And so he was arrested for fraud.

And her as the business man, Amanda as the business manager of the office, was also arrested for fraud. And that then triggered Palo Zampoly calling someone senior at ICE and saying, hey, my ex-wife, mother and my child, just got arrested for fraud. Maybe go take a look at this. You can deport her. To which I should have asked this question last week and I did not. When someone is charged with a felony in the United States, isn't it normal for them to stand trial first and pay for their crimes before getting deported?

Well, do they get those same rights a citizen does? I'll put it this way. Let me go to a more extreme example. Because this is just, you know, basic fraud. It's biz, right? I also have no clue about it. Yeah, yeah, listen, we're not lawyers in case that wasn't painfully obvious to everyone out there. But, like, when one, when an illegal immigrant kills someone, they stay in trial and they go to U.S. prison.

Yeah, yeah, I guess you got a point. Right? So it's interesting that someone charged with a high-level white-collar crime. It's fraud. It's a felony. It's biz. Yeah, it would just be. You know, it would just be like, okay, we'll just deport her.

And now she's free living in Rio de Janeiro. And again, you know, innocent until proven guilty, we don't, it was unclear through the reporting what Amanda actually did know about the fraud, meaning did she actually know that the doctor in question was not registered in the United States. Even if she's married to the guy, it's possible that she didn't know that. Right. It sounds like something of a sweetheart deal, if I may. A little bit.

Yes. Yes. She's, uh, she has other talents for sure. Yeah. But Amanda was threatening Melania Trump because this is someone who was, Amanda was first brought to America in, I believe, 2000 aboard Jeffrey Epstein's plane. And she was represented directly by Jean-Luc Brunel, the French modeling agent sex trafficking partner, European division for Jeffrey Epstein. you know you gotta make obviously these people are the worst people ever but sometimes you got to make light of the real darkness but anyway yeah so she is another one who was in my opinion just looking at it one plus one equals two obviously in some way trafficked i believe was she born in 1984 can we check that because if she came here in 2000 that means she was 16 when she came here so trafficked here underage to be a model

certainly a beautiful woman at the time she was not a woman woman. She was still a girl. And this seems to be a common pattern in 1984. Yeah, so she was 16. And the reason the timeline is important is because that is in the same area as to when Melania came here and met Trump, the 98-99 area. Amanda comes here in 2000. So when Amanda says, I was, I know where all the bodies are buried. I don't know if that was the exact phrasing she used, but things like that, There's certainly reason to believe she was running in the same area in circles at the same time with the same people and would at least know a thing or two. Now, Amanda ends up marrying Paolo, who by the way, Steve, I think at this point, it seems to almost be like it was a job requirement for the Trump administration that you are linked to Jeffrey Epstein and that you have previously done business with Jeffrey Epstein. because Palosan Polly not only funneled, we'll talk about one specific example in a minute,

but not only funneled models from his agency to Jeffrey Epstein, which is, you know, to me, most likely trafficking, unless he's the dumbest guy in America and was like, oh, I don't know why they're going over this guy's mansion, you know. But he also tried to buy, I forget, I'm remembering this off the top of my head. I think he and Epstein tried to buy, I want to say, elite model management together. Like they were a part of a partnership that was trying to buy it. Like, what the fuck? You know, like, this should be something that on a basic background check. Yeah, I'm right, Thief?

Yeah. That was what, 04? 0404 when they did that? Something like that. It was in that area. Yeah, I'll find out. It's from the 2019. He'll find out, but it is true.

They did try to buy it. It was elite model management. You would think in a basic background check at the fucking White House. It would be like, oh, this guy tried to buy a business with Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, this guy ran a modeling agency that was attached to Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, this guy knows Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, we promised to release the Epstein files. It's probably not a good idea that we have this guy working the administration on an invented role.

It was a role that didn't even, you know, this guy's fucking, you know, chewing our garlic and say, now you go around the world and tell everyone what we do with the Trump administration. To who? He's not an envoy to any specific countries. Just what's the title? Envoy to international relations or some shit? Don't worry. It gets worse. But maybe that's why they did it. They're like, listen, he's a he knows how to play ball. That's right. He knows that we're going to hold this over him and he's going to be a good little bitch. That's right. What he did. Also, sadly, we got to bleep that for you. We will bid. We will bleep that. We will bleep that. Yeah, United States Special Representative for Global Partnerships. That sounds like,

like prestige worldwide. Okay? That sounds like the pinta, the gria, the Santa Maria. I'll do you in the back while you're drinking sangria. That's not a real thing. That is like someone sat in the back office during the transitional period after Trump won for the second administration. And they got a little fucking lit one night.

And they're like, yeah, fucking Donald wants his guy. Yeah, the Italian guy. He needs some fucking, yeah, the modeling guy. I know, I know. I know. I know. I know it's fucking great. All right.

Don't give him that credit. No, no, no. He can't have that one. All right. How about special envoy? Sheila, what do you got? Special envoy to, what was the name of it again? Special representative for global partnership.

Special representative. Oh my God. Ding, ding, ding. That's a winner. Let's go. Like, that's how it happens. I think you're giving them too much credit. I think they were like, hey, Grock, give us the name of an administrative position.

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You know, I don't know anything about opening up a shell company or should I say a shell roll. That would be uncharted territories for me. I never plan on doing it. I don't understand the point unless you have something to hide. But one would think, you know, just reviewing common sense, that if you made such a role, the whole point is to make the person feel important so that they can go to fucking elite dinner parties and say, I'm the special envoy or I'm sorry, I should say it correctly deep. I am the special envoy for international relations in the Trump administration. So they go out there and they can say something like that and pretend to have a big dick in the administration when really is. It's like, okay, you got a title, sit over there, relax, have a good life, sip some mites.

But no. Steve, can you pull up the tweet from Palo's own Twitter from this past week? So we talked about this on the last episode. When 408 came out last Saturday that evening, there was a round of peace talks happening in Iran. There was a huge delegation sent by the U.S. This was mediated by the Pakistanis, who the Israelis had not been able to kill apparently after. some questionable bombings in certain areas. But the Pakistanis mediate a sit down between the leaders of the IRGC, their representatives,

whose names I will fuck up if I try to pronounce right now, but you know who they are if you've been following this. And then on the other side, Vice President J.D. Vance was sent to negotiate but brought a delegation that I saw some reports was as large as like 300 people. I don't know why the fuck you need 300 people in a room. I don't know what 300 people do, except like, and they don't even speak the same language. Like, it's just strange. But the main people there negotiating a deal were J.D. Vance. I believe Special Envoy to the Middle East is his title, if I remember correctly, Steve Wittkoff. And Jared Kushner, reminder, Whitkoff and Kushner are the failed negotiators from the previous negotiation where while they were negotiated with Iran,

we attacked Iran. Hell yeah. Interesting, right? So they go in there, they meet for 21 hours, and as Joe Kent also seemed to, this one was more of an implicit prediction rather than his previous, a lot of explicit predictions that have come correct. But the goalpost seemed to move to where now it wasn't just no nuclear weapon. There had to be no enrichment of uranium whatsoever, which means,

you got to take it down below like the 3.8 or 3.6% to zero, which previously was stated publicly as not a United States position. The position was just no nuclear bomb. So goalposts move. It's very interesting when Vance walked out to do the press conference and Wickhoff and Cushner come out with him. You know, I'm not trying to read into it too much, but like Cushner looked happier than a pig and shit. I didn't even watch. Yeah, he was like hiding a smile. And it's like, what's your job, dude?

you're a volunteer in this administration. You're the president's son-in-law. You got all kinds of businesses that are conflicts of interest in the Middle East. You're a very pro-Israeli guy. Fine. But that's a conflict of interest in this chat. We've already discussed what the British National Security Advisor said about Wyckoff and Kushner during the last round of negotiations that he was present for where he said, yeah, my understanding is they work for Assad. which is a pretty big accusation right there. But the point being, symbolism being what it is, which is that Israel having an interest in seeing Iran, regime change and everything. If the U.S. negotiators are very sympathetic to that position at the very least, who's there to make peace?

Right. So they're the main people. But, D. if we got this tweet up now, this was from Palo's own Twitter. Palo apparently can't read a room. I would stay the fuck off the internet if I were him. But instead, what he decided to do was tweet out, my friends at the New York Times are never accurate, maybe due to the language barrier,

but I have to give credit to their photo editors consistently selecting great pictures of me. Their work truly deserves a Pulitzer Prize nomination and recognition at the upcoming White House Correspondence Dinner, which is an effort for him to be funny and it's not. I don't know, maybe it's the language barrier, Palo. But either way, this picture of him, is walking right off of, I believe, Air Force 2, because it was Vance coming in, right next to the

fucking vice president. So this modeling agent, Jeffrey Epstein Buddy, currently embroiled at the middle of a fiasco involving the first lady, which happened before this flight, by the way. And we're going to get to a couple other things here also as it relates to Epstein. This guy, English is his second language, is being sent next to the vice president. to have any level. I mean, I'm not going to sit here and pretend he was like a main negotiator. There's no way he was. But the fact that he's even in the room or that close in proximity, like, what the fuck are we doing? To quote Donald Trump, when we send him, we're not sending our best.

Like, you're not sending your best here, pal. This is what we got. This makes the fucking Obama-Arandial look great. And I've been critical of that forever. Even when we had Trita in here, who advised on that. You know, he and I. had a nice conversation about that, but like, I thought that was a terrible deal. Like, this is, this is the same kind of vibes with that. It doesn't look like you're trying to get an outcome there. It's kind of like how young thug always has an old Italian guy in the studio. Exactly right. It's like the same thing. You just got to have one to stay ready. You got to have one to stay ready. Yeah. Usually, you know, they know their way around a weapon as well. Yeah. Yeah.

If guns are not available because it's a gun-free zone or something like that. Exactly. They're always good for having a bat. You know me? I keep a car bat. Yeah. It's very important. And the Middle East has olive oil.

So you can still be, they can maintain themselves while they're there on the ground. Absolutely. Yeah. Stick a little in your hair as well. Oh, he. I mean, it's a long negotiation. 21 hours, that hair gel is running out. And there's three, there's 298 others alongside you two.

Yeah, I know. Sweaty. Mm. Not great. But I just find it intellectually offensive at a most basic level. Yeah. That not only is he there, but then they don't have the presence of mind to say to him, you know, Palo, don't tweet to your 10 followers. Yeah.

Just like don't. Just stay off the internet. All these people, you would think they're all like fucking 16 years old. Yeah. Yeah. It's like when people. They can't help themselves. When people talk about like Hollywood symbolism or like throwing shit in your face sometimes, which I think people read into too much sometimes.

And then other times I'm like, yeah, sure. That's pretty much what it is. Yeah. It's like this is kind of like that. Absolutely. That's what they're doing. Same shit. You know?

And I'm not an expert on all the fucking signs. I get educated by people. I got to do more work on that by people online. These aren't signs. These are just like in your face like, hello, look who's here. nothing you can do about it don't worry about it nothing to see what was his name

Jeffrey Epstein yeah jee yeah no hardly knew him uh no hardly knew him can't say I do

a couple more things on Zampoli just to you know kind of finish building the bulletproof case here that first link right there is you where it says NY Postief so this was a good pool from

Kazoo Catherine on Twitter. Shout out Kazoo Catherine, who went into, I presume, the page six archives and found from, can you just scroll up deep? Yeah, absolutely. Because she did a good breakdown here and provided the screenshot data that shows the articles. You can click the picture if you go to this tweet and you can read exactly what she summarized here. But she said, Palo Zampolean ID models appeared in New York Post page six multiple times a year, sometimes multiple times a month. Look at what was being published. November 1999, journalist Jared Paul Stern wrote about a write-out, about a night out was Zam Poli. Zampoli introduced him to, quote, his latest discovery,

unquote, a 17-year-old girl, just arrived from Australia in New York for one week. Stern then described her comp card as depicting a, quote, sizzling tempteress with a resting cleavage and bedroom eyes, unquote. Zampoli was marketing a 17-year-old girl who had been in the country for seven days using sexualized imagery. Other page six clippings from the same period featured photos of young girls under captions like quote, fresh face, unquote, and descriptions of them being newly discovered and available. Read them today and they look less like gossip column items and more like advertisements. Another clipping from the same era, this is the one that got me. Zampoli spotted a 15-year-old ninth grader still attending high school in Miami. The paper described

her as about to become, quote, the world's most most. popular ninth grader unquote that's the new york post describing that in palo's defense not even him this this was not hidden it was in the newspaper repeatedly with their faces i think this was just a accepted subculture and i i don't say that as a endorsement at all i say that as a disgrace it was a it was a oddly like oh yeah 15 year old girl should be a big model oh you brought her in town great let's get her on page six You know, Jesus Christ. It was right in your face the whole time.

And most of us missed it. Shout out to the people out there that didn't. And it had been banging the walls of the internet since the 1990s telling people there are a few soldiers, certainly, who have been doing that. And they should be commended for sure. But there was also one of the core four Epstein recruiters who is directly tied to Zampolius. It's the second link there, Dief. Yep, got it for you. All right.

So this is also from Kazoo, Catherine, who obviously is doing some great work digging on this. We always want to give a shout out to the people who help, you know, us be able to get some of this information as well. And that is another thing, by the way. There's some stuff, and I'll probably talk about this more next week. There's some stuff that I've really dug into in the last week, unrelated to anything we're talking about, where they're. There are some people that I, and I'm not going to call them out probably. I want to think more about this, but just be careful because there are some people who are making things sound like it's incredible research and also putting sourcing in there.

And the top line sourcing is correct. The top line information is correct. And then a couple layers down lower, they get some things wrong. And I've tried to be really careful with that in recent weeks because there was something. it wasn't on one of these episodes. There was another thing, I think, when we were recording an episode where I said something and then later looked at it more, and it was an example like that where they got the first two things right and then three and four were like, yeah, and it's just it's muddying the water

bad. Yeah, and we got to, we got to really not do that. I've said since the beginning, like, if we have access as a public to all this information and actually want to try to get some results here, we got to be as responsible as the people that used to not fail, in quote, the mainstream type industries, who obviously have failed very clearly, but what they were supposed to be in purity, if that makes sense.

Like, we got to get it right from this end. But, yeah, so Powell Zampoli ran ID model management. One of his models was a member of Epstein's Corps 4. Again, this is from Kazoo, Catherine. Here's what we know about Adriana. Mucinska. She was one of the four women trained by Yelan Maxwell to procure underage girls for Epstein. She appears in 163 case documents and 165 flight log entries. FBI document, ETA, long number, states that she would, quote, contact the girls via cell phone, unquote,

to arrange appointments with victims ages 14 to 17. She also removed computer drives from Epstein's Florida mansion before police arrived. In a 2010 civil deposition, she invoked the Fifth Amendment over a hundred times. She received full federal immunity under the 2008 non-prosecution agreement negotiated by Alan Dershowitz and was never charged. The 2006 Gawker item that named her identified her as current ID model, not former. She was on Zampoli's books while working inside Epstein's household. Both facts were true at the same time. That's a great find at the end by Catherine.

So again, how do you not know that if you're him? You're really close friends with the guy. You gotta know what he's up to. You got your girls on his payroll. They talk. How do you not know that? Last one on Zampoli. And I need to highlight these are allegations what we're about to see.

This is also from Kazou-Katherine putting this together. But Victoria Drake alleged, and this was via Billy Bush and another journalist who I think is mentioned in here. And I went and checked this as well. Becca Day. Victoria Drake alleges that Palo Zampoly drugged and sexually assaulted her in October 2023 at his diplomatic residence in New York City as reported by Becca Day on Billy Bush's show. Victoria alleges she did everything right.

She went to the hospital, underwent a rape kit, test confirmed drugs in her system. Her injuries were medically documented. And there was a voice note confession. There were also like some texts and emails from friends that the reporter Becca Day was able to pull up. Yet the case was dropped suddenly and out of nowhere, possibly because this building is officially registered as a diplomatic residence with the U.S. Department of State. The photo shows the exact warning sign on the front door of the property where the alleged

is sold a curtain. So really important to know, if you work at the U.S. Department of State, you're allowed to rape. Yeah, what? Like, apparently that's like a thing, which it's not. I don't know where that's fucking coming from. It's not. But that's supposedly used as to cover. I want to go to the reply tweet, though. This had amazing, amazing information. This is what I alluded to earlier about Palo Zampoli because his ties are deeper than modeling agent next to Epstein and now some weird special envoy to whatever the fuck for the U.S. There was a time in the middle there where he also did some work for another country. Palo Zambole did not have diplomatic immunity in October 2023 at the exact time of the alleged assault after checking official official.

UN diplomatic roles and blue books. Zampoli is a naturalized U.S. citizen, born in Milan, Italy. He held a special ambassador role for Dominica until 2023. Hmm. Okay. Dominica is an island in the Caribbean, approximately 310 miles from Epstein Island. On July 6th, 2023, Filibert Aaron presented credentials at Dominica's new permanent representative, which is three months before this alleged rape.

Campoli has not appeared on Dominica's UN diplomatic roles or listings since then. His current role as U.S. Special Omboy for Global Partnerships does not grant diplomatic immunity as the United States is not hosting him as a foreign diplomat. Also, he's a foreign diplomat of a foreign country, so he wasn't even working for the U.S. at that time. How does he get the authority to not have crimes accused against him because he was in a U.S. fucking State Department? Like, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah, I don't know.

Doesn't make sense. And I went and dug on this. Powell Zambole was appointed to the United Nations ambassador for oceans and the seas for the Commonwealth of Dominica in October 2013. So apparently if you are a high-level modeling agent or if you are Jeffrey Epstein's chief sex trafficker like Yelan Maxwell, it makes you a distinguished expert on the oceans. I remind you these two projects, projects, when he's named ambassador for the oceans and seas for Dominican. Dominica, whatever that means, that comes up around the same time as Guillen Maxwell creating the Terramar project, which talked about the 65% of oceans that are completely under no jurisdiction of any fucking country and using some NWO shit to create something.

I don't know. That's pure spec. Pure spec. That's pure spec in its pure speccous form. Just kind of interesting to me. But he has held the diplomatic position for Dominica since 2013, and we just read that it probably ended in 2023 and he certainly could not hold that today as an official United States representative in this government. But it's just, it's just fascinating the tentacles where these people go.

So again, that's who failed in the Iranian or among, I'm sorry, among the people who were a part of the failure in the Iranian delegation, you know, whatever. Because by the way, thief didn't say this, but there's reports that Vance was on the phone with Netanyahu during that negotiation, meaning it's being influenced by him. And then there are reports, and I do want to say this, this was coming from the Iranian side. So it could be total lies, could be, that Whitkoff and Kushner were on the phone with Netanyahu a lot throughout negotiations. Do with that what you will. from the Iranian IRGC side. These are certainly liars in their own right. So that needs to be taken with grain of salt. But there were more credible reports that Vance at least spoke with him once.

He should not be speaking with him at all. This is a United States issue in that way. Also, Israel has already said they're not sending any ground troops onto the ground in Iran. So as far as I'm concerned, as our client state, they have no say in the matter whatsoever. And also, by the way, as we talk here today, Dief, we're talking on Friday evening this morning, Donald Trump tweeted out that a ceasefire has been agreed to in Lebanon for the next 10 days. And he, I don't know if you have it. There was a true social on it. But he said, yeah, I actually have the link right there under Trump update right there. So he also like called out Israel where he said, no excuses. Enough or enough is enough. He goes,

the USA will get all nuclear dust created by our great B2 bombers. This is Donald Trump on true social this morning. No money will exchange hands in any way, shape, or form. This deal is in no way subject to Lebanon either, but the USA will separately work with Lebanon and deal with the Hezbollah situation in an appropriate matter. Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer. They are prohibited all caps from doing so by the USA. Enough is enough. Thank you. Which I appreciate a tweet like that. the problem is there was already one drone attack that left someone dead in the hour since then in Lebanon that that came from Israel. It's not a full rocket bombing or something like that, but it's certainly not a great start. And they have a track record even throughout just this fucking eight-week war of whenever Donald Trump sets some kind of line in the sand, they go, yeah, go fuck yourself.

So I'm going to be monitoring that. I'm rooting for this ceasefire. We'll see if it's already fucked up by tomorrow when this goes out. Yeah. Certainly, you know, what's been happening in Lebanon, that, that, there's just no excuse for what's going on there. I went on John Kirooku's show yesterday and we talked a bunch about that. And it's like, this is no different than, you know, insert tyrannical land grab here. Yeah. It is the same exact thing and that needs to be said.

All right. So Palo Zampole, we got your, we got our eyes on you. We'll keep our eyes on you. Real quick, right before I get to the missing scientists, Todd Blanche, acting attorney general, who just tries to gaslight everyone very confidently. I talked about this a couple weeks ago. He went on Stephen Miller's wife's podcast.

Nice. There's just, there's... When are you going on? Are you going on? I'd rather die. I'd rather die of cancer of the ass. Would you, would you rather go on her podcast or have... clavicular in here as a guest. Oh, God. Oh, dude, I just broke his brain, folks. I can just

see it in his eyes. We could think on that one. You could answer. Yeah, I got to get back to you on that one. I got to get back to you on that one. Played the first one that says lies. All right. So this is, you know, she pressed them a little bit right here. It seems like it was a bit of an act, but yeah, do they have credit where it's due? Here we go. Do you think the investigators covered it up? Given how many victims there are, surely, I mean, there should be more prosecutions and more charges than there are. Well, look, the Epstein files are available for everybody to see. So it's not, so do I think there was a cover-up?

No, I don't, but it's not just up to me. Everybody that's watching this, everybody that, the Epstein Transparency Act has now allowed us to release the entire Epstein files. There's still 3 million held back, though, not all of the Republic. No, they're all public. No, they're all public. So look, that's not true. That's not true, yeah. Yeah, hold on.

Let me just look you in the eyes and lie out of your face. Let's go to the next one where he says, she doesn't know what a client list is. I love this. The ninja dance of what client list? What is a client list? What are a client? I don't know. You say the word client.

When you say that word, what do you mean? What does that mean? Okay. Let it read. Does a client list? exist? Does an Epstein client list exist and is the government in possession of it? No, I mean, listen, everything, I can ask you the same question, right? Because everything's been released. So there's, there's, what's commonly referred to as the client list, if I were

speculating. If he was speculating. Pure spec. That has been released for years and years and years. It was basically Epstein's address book. He, there was a list of masseuses. It's not a client list obviously. Those are a lot of those women were were actually victims. She's overhead. That that exists. But I don't even, to be honest with you, I don't know what a client list is. I'm not trying to be naive, but what what what would a client list consist of? I mean, a list of Mr. Epstein's, um, the people he was supposedly blackmailing. Is it people that were his business clients, his personal clients? But no, I have not seen such a list. Okay. Yeah, I don't really have anything else to add there. I just wanted to say fuck Todd Blanche is one

take this opportunity to say fuck Todd Blanche as a record label staff and is the motherfucking crew and if you're down with Todd Blanche to fuck you too. But I mean, I buy it. I buy it. It's it is ridiculous. So let's let's get to the hand-wringing story that Deif and I have been talking about today. Which by the way, Deep, Defe came in clutch, did something a little different. Usually when we do this show, people, like, a part of my job is like, I'm looking through shit all week, period before we ever even did this kind of show. So like, it's all floating around in there and we just let it rip. We let it rip on all the episodes. Diff and I'll meet right before we do this and just get the links organized so that we can do that quickly and then we roll on camera

and that's it. With this missing scientist one, we wanted to actually really discuss some patterns here play a lot of devil's advocate which is important to do because this is not a straightforward story first of all spoiler alert not all 11 are scientists and it's weird it's very very weird and there's a there there but it's still in the air what that is so as of i believe yesterday there is now an 11th scientist linked to this string of cases of either disappeared and still not found slash dead slash murdered again scientists and to be clear this is not all from a two week period or something like that this is from a 22 to 2026 period these are spread out which right away says it also creates at least the

probability of there being some just pure coincidence does increase when you spread out the time length on that. Dee, if you put together like a before you came in here is awesome, like a basic review of just the basic facts across each thing. So I want to have that for you and me up here just to refer to and we'll kind of go through that. But I want to start by categorizing. the missing scientists. So one guy was a cancer researcher. I'm going to talk about him in a minute at Novartis. He is, he is to me, a spoiler alert, I'm going to rule him out as, I shouldn't say rule him out. I'm going to cast extremely strong doubts on his ties to any of these other people or this overall casing. And I'll explain that more in a minute. Next, you have three different people

that worked at Los Alamos and the Kansas City nuclear laboratory, I forget the official name for it, that were not scientists, but they had access to things. Interesting. Then you have the latest dead scientist who was a real scientist, who was actually, I believe, technically the first dead of anyone on this list. She just got reported on yesterday. And this is Amy Eskridge, who was the CEO of her own company in Huntsville, Alabama, which is where NASA has some headquarters and works on some interesting rocket propulsion stuff and anti-gravity and shit like that. So you got cancer scientists, Amy Eskridge, the three people that aren't scientists, but work at very important places.

Then you have the MIT professor who was working on like plasma mechanics, crazy physics, and was a genius respected professor and physicist at MIT who, who, was gunned down in December, reportedly by the same guy who two days before killed nine or killed two college students and injured nine in a mass shooting at Brown University. I'm going to discuss that more as well. And then you have five people who do different things that are in some way tied to NASA's JPL, which, what is it? Is it JEP propulsion? Yes, Jet Propulsion. Yes. Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Yep.

One of whom is the guy who made this case a thing. I believe he was the ninth reported scientist that then it got put together as a story, which is General McCaskill. Is that how you say it? McCaslin. McCaslin. I'm sorry. So very interesting.

We're going to discuss him. He disappeared on Friday, February 27th in the hours before the Iran War. That might be nothing. It was interesting to me. We'll get there. I told you I would start with the Novartis cancer researcher, though, because this is the one that just doesn't make sense to me as being interrelated. First of all, he's not working on anything nuclear. He's not working on anything involving physics. Obviously, he was a pretty high-level cancer researcher at Novartis, so he's working on something very important. Also something that people speculate out there, I believe, correctly, that perhaps certain cures or potential, things that could be funded to be a cure are being hidden because biotech and big pharma makes a lot of money on drugs that don't necessarily save people but if you look at this guy his name jason thomas he disappeared on december 12th 2025 i believe i'll get to that in a minute on his linked in it says

lead and work alongside an integrated team experienced in biochemical slash biophysical techniques chemical synthesis and mass spectrometry that bridges the gap between chemical concept and biological education. Now, there's a lot of big words there and words out stuff, but again, it was all related to cancer research. Now, outside of this being an entirely different field than anyone else here, the backstory of Jason Thomas' disappearance

is also extremely important for context. A month before he disappeared, Jason Thomas, who is a married guy with no kids, he and his wife have five dogs. He was an only child, which I can relate to, whose mother was sick a month before and died on hospice. An hour after his mom died, he and his dad were making funeral arrangements and his dad had a heart attack keeled over and died in his arms. He was extremely, extremely depressed. He and his wife go out on December 12th. They come with friends. They come back late. He had been really struggling and they had at least had like a decent time. When they got home,

she went up to the bedroom and around, I want to say it was like 1145, 1150 p.m. She realized that he wasn't in there with her. So she walked outside and he was at, she had heard a slam on the mailbox and he was at the mailbox. They made eye contact. She went back inside. A half hour later, like she fell asleep for a second, woke up and realized he still wasn't there and the lights were left on. She went outside, didn't see him. And then within a few hours, was like, okay, he didn't come home. His body was later believed to be recovered in March, 26. He had left like his Apple Watch, I want to say, in the mailbox or something like that.

He left everything behind. To me, I would say this is probably some sort of. sort of suicide. He was very, very depressed, and I don't, and they recovered his body. He's not missing. They did recover his body here. And I don't see why he would have been killed. If there are people out there who have more information on the very specifics of what he was working on, please share. There was one more thing here that is not talked about as far as I can see on this case, it's a really anecdotal thing that I think about a lot and I actually called my guy who's going to be at the middle of this story about this. But about eight years ago, a friend of

mine, really good dude, really smart guy who worked high up in pharma, which, you know, you don't brag about these days, but really, really solid dude. I remember him telling me, I'm not going to say what company, but he was working at this major company. He was, he He had an extremely high-level job. And he was telling me about this cancer therapy, specifically for stage four, about-to-die patients, that he was funding basically, like, through his job at the company. Basically, I think the way he put it was like, for the good of humankind, because it's not for the good of my job.

It's just the right thing to do. And reason being because it was not only not making them any money at the time, they were hemorrhaging money on it. but it was called CAR-T therapy. Essentially what it involved, and this is back in 2017, 2018, so think about what it could be now. What it involved is they would remove the T cells, the white blood cells from a patient,

take it outside the body, genetically re-engineer it to be able to fight just cancer cells, reinsert it back into their body, the new immunotherapy material. And I believe what he said at the time was like, we saw an 80, they were seeing internal numbers that were like 85% cure, which is crazy. And I remember, I'll never forget where I was when I was talking about this. I remember saying to him, I'm like,

so you're saying that for the cancers you're testing, this could potentially be somewhat close to a cure. And he's like, I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying it's really fucking interesting and I'm going to keep losing money on it because it's just for the good. you wonder when you see a guy like this disappeared even if it's not related to these other scientists you wonder if it wasn't he was depressed just about his parents or whatever it's also like maybe they fucked around and found something they're like no no no no we don't we don't share that that doesn't work same reason why they don't they want to block all these fucking on a lower level this is a lesser example, but they want to block all these psychedelics and stuff because it's not a

subscription model like SSRIs, which just dim you over time. So I just want to give that side context, but in the full context of this story of 11 missing people, he does not make sense to me. The second one I want to talk about is the MIT physicist. How do you say this guy's name again? Nuno Lerero? Yeah. Okay. Nuno Lerro. Can you pull up, just let's stick with a basic here.

Can you pull up the Brown, 2025 Brown shooting Wikipedia page? And this is the government story. That's why we're going straight to Wikipedia on this. So on December 13th, 2025 of Mass Shooting Cure at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, during the second day of final examination week for the fall semester, the shooter, Claudio Manuel Neves Valenti entered the Barris and Holly building and killed two students and wounded nine other students who were attending a review session and then fled the scene before police arrived. Two days later on December 15th, Nuno L'Orero, an MIT physics professor and former classmate of Valenti was fatally shot at his home in Brooklyn, Massachusetts. During a five-day manhump by the FBI and local police officials released images and video of the perpetrator whose identity was initially unknown,

He was a Portuguese national with the United States permanent resident status and former graduate student at Brown University. On December 18th, he was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound inside a storage unit in New Hampshire. He was found with two guns. Officials said the suicide weapon was the gun used in the Brown University shooting. Law enforcement agencies alleged him to be responsible for the shooting. If you go down on the page, Steve, go down to the aftermath, like the... The, so no, below that, the investigation. What's discussed in here, I don't need to read the whole thing,

but they also recovered videos, I believe at the storage unit, where he admitted on video to having planned out these shootings for a long time. And what the government said is that there was no motive. Yep, right there. And let me go pure spec for a minute. Hit it. Let's throw on the tinfoil. Hit it.

I don't say he was a classmate of this very prominent MIT physicist who was working on plasma mechanics and high level physicist shit so you can little animosity you can yeah it could be that but you can tie it back there's some strands of ties of similar things that are potentially world changing being worked on got you okay that you can at least say maybe maybe there's something with these other guys who are for this guy, unlike the cancer researcher Jason. But you wonder, no motive, admits on video, cleans it up, goes to a storage unit, kills himself, government gets to say case closed.

We don't talk about it again. My mind goes a little MK Ultra on that. It's possible. Probable? No. Possible. Pure spec. Pure spec. Okay. I like how I put in here, like during the interviews, Brown Valenti was often unhappy and even angry, complaining that classes were too easy and that the food on Brown's campus was subpar.

During what interviews? I'm reading it right here. A physics professor. Oh, that's how the physics professor described. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, yeah. So how someone remembers them. But the food was subpar. I'm going to let them know. I brought this one up secondly because it's also a little bit removed and there's at least we know the killer and we know what's going on. So I kind of mark this one as like very light yellow. Yeah. Maybe maybe not. I basicallyish a lot of ways lean towards ruling out the adjacent. the cancer researcher. This one, I'm in that direction, just not as strong because this guy was a serious, serious dude,

and it's weird how, like, oh, yeah, case closed, nothing to see here yet. Terrible. Mass shooter went a little crazy, you know, his old professors were even talking about it. What are you going to do? You know? Could have got MK'd.

Yeah, that was interesting. The next three that I want to talk about are people who are at least as reported in no way scientists. Okay. So there is, how do you say her name? Melissa. Melissa Cassius.

Melissa was a 53-year-old executive assistant at Los Alamos. All right. This is not someone that was fucking printing the nuclear codes or anything like that. No. Who she was an executive assistant to is completely unreported. Yep. Your ideas as good as mine. but just to review for people out there,

things that happen at Los Alamos, which is the famous lab tied to nuclear lore. We've talked about in many contexts on this show. If you've seen Oppenheimer, well, there you go. But at Los Alamos, they have things including nuclear weapons and stockpile stewardship, nuclear nonproliferation and counterterrorism roles, exercises, high performance computing and simulation, nuclear physics and accelerator science,

high magnetic field research, astrophysics and fusion research material science stockpile cyber security energy and climate research space exploration and geophysics i mean the list goes that you get the point a lot of important stuff here a lot of extremely highly classified stuff that goes beyond just nuclear weapons and goes into what's up there and everything so cassius disappears sometime around midday when did she disappear? This was 20. It was after lunch with her daughter. Yeah, but 2025? Um, we'll find that out. 2025. So what month? Dave, we'll get that. But basically, she doesn't go to work, request to work remotely that day. This is June 2025. Gets lunch with her daughter. If she's 53,

presumably the daughter's out, I don't know this for a fact, but presumably the daughter's out of, like grade school and stuff like she's not she's somewhat of an adult if not a full-blown adult so it's not like it's midday of school where she just had lunch with her daughter and then after having lunch with her daughter she leaves her home with nothing including no phone and she had done a factory reset on her phone yeah that's the real head scratcher on this one yeah yeah and she's never been seen again there's no body nope now this could be this could be a situation where

she saw something she wasn't supposed to see and maybe she wasn't the only one either but the other people you know they got the call they got the call from our friend Liam Neeson they were like, listen. He said I have a particular set of skills skills that make me a danger to people like you sound Irish

if you well he was kind of he was He was still, there was a little bit of the Irish accent on that call. He let it slip. He was supposed to play an American, but he's like, you know, if you get this up now, I'll let you go. And that'll be the end of it. If not, I will find you. And I will kill you.

Like, so if you wonder, maybe this call goes to other people Los Alamos who were like, yes, see no evil here, no evil. Listen, bro. Yeah, I was just smoking weed out back on my break. I didn't see anything about that nuclear bomb being brought in with a blue alien. And you don't even have to do the fucking men in black thing on me. Like, we're good, fam. I ain't going to say shit. And, you know, then they get a dead bird in their mail as a reminder.

And they're like, look around all scared. Someone fucking pictures them in the unmarked car over there and points at them. And then drives away really slowly. And they shake and go inside. And that person then reports back like, yeah, now you're scared shitless. We're good. But maybe Cassius. Maybe.

again pure spec maybe she was like this is wrong maybe she was a really good I don't know anything about her maybe she was like a really good person whatever she saw not only couldn't she unsee she couldn't not say and then maybe maybe she was going back and forth on it you know Liam Neeson's calling her making these threats he gives her like a second and third call and says I know that I said that would be the end of it right then but I'm going to give you another chance for it to be the end of it. Yeah. This will really be the end of it.

And maybe it still wasn't the end of it. And so then she's like, you know, they're coming for me. I got lunch today. Yeah, maybe she basically says goodbye to her daughter. Nothing says nothing. I don't know. And then maybe she was going to a meeting and they said, all right, if we need to talk about this. And you can't bring your phone factory, reset your phone because they could, I don't know.

I'm really going down the rabbit hole here. I don't fucking know people. I'm guessing. But like the factory reset's weird. Very weird. The factory reset's really weird. What I wonder is if she did that or if that was done after. Yeah.

To clean it up. Someone said, come meet me. We'll take care of this. Yep. Don't bring your phone. Wipe it up. They're tracking you. Just leave it behind.

Mm-hmm. She goes somewhere. She gets bagged or killed. whatever it is, they go back and they factory reset her phone. Nobody knows nothing. Possible. The next guy who disappeared was 78-year-old Stephen Garcena. No, Anthony Chavez.

I get the two of them mixed up. Anthony Chavez. So Anthony Chavez worked at Los Alamos and he was retired. He disappears in what? June? Yeah, Anthony Chavez. No, May. Last May. Nice. So same time. Same time period as Cassius does.

His previous work before Los Alamos was at an HVAC company, which then led people to say he was working on something similar at Los Alamos. Again, it's HVAC. He's not fucking doing the nuclear codes here. But he had defound it. He had a top level clearance because I would imagine, you know, there's HVACs next to the fucking nuke. maybe next to the aliens maybe danny sheehan's right and the nordics are down there i don't know referred episode 2 46 your guess is as good as mine but like maybe chavez or not javas yeah it's javas sir maybe chavez saw something and then maybe you know he's ripping his chain smoking his mar barrels he's apparently left his smokes behind so he's a smoker and you know he's like Fuck, I got to tell somebody about this shit. Picks up the phone.

He calls his buddy Eddie. And he's like, Eddie, you're not going to believe this shit. They made a nuke. They put it on Mars. Like, we've been to Mars, bro. I saw the footage. Like, Matt, it wasn't just Matt Damon. Like, we have been to Mars.

And I'm just there fixing the fucking air conditioner because it was on 67 and they needed it on 65. The footage is playing. they asked me if I wanted some of the fucking lunch there I came over got the lunch and I'm like oh shit you're not supposed to see that don't tell nobody and I don't know man like I just keep sitting up at night thinking about this and fuck like isn't the aren't they talking about maybe bomb and Iran right now

like there's something going on out there it's all tied together and meanwhile you know black cube is listening on the phone somebody's listening on the phone CIA somebody. And they're like, it's Eddie. Eddie's actually.

Eddie's working for it. Eddie's an inside man. Eddie's the guy. He's like, he goes, you mean to tell me they're making a move with Ellie is in him?

Yeah, that's what I'm telling you, Eddie. You're crazy, man. You're crazy, man. You're crazy, man. So, he opens his mouth, maybe, says something,

and then he gets the call. Yeah. I have a particular set of skills. And you're fucked. And they tell him to go meet. Now, he left all his shit behind at home too, right? Yeah. And we'll obviously be diving into the rest of them.

But like the big thing that I just keep feeling like is there's like the alarm gets hit. Yes. The alarm gets hit. And they're like, all right, you know where to go. Leave all your shit. It's very weird. Right. You'll see it across the rest of these.

Basically, by the way, of these 11 total, which includes Jason, the cancer researcher. Two were confirmed murdered. four are confirmed dead one with suicide the others with potential suicide or no foul play we'll get to that and five are missing yep this is one of the two at Los Alamos

are missing and then there's a third one from another laboratory in Kansas City what's that one called what's the official name of that thief yeah I got you that is called the Kansas City National Security Campus and what do they do at the Kansas City National Security Campus And what do they do at the Kansas City National Security Campus? They manufacture 80% of all of the non-nuclear components that go into building the military's nuclear weapons.

Okay. Enter Stephen Garcia. That's his name, right? Yep. Okay. Stephen Garcia did have a top-level clearance, right? Yep. And he was on the security side of things, responsible for overseeing all of effectively most of the equipment assets. He was the, his title was property custodian. Right. But it did give him all of those highest level clearances. So just like in Night at the Museum when Ben Stiller had access to all the fucking, you know, the alive Teddy Roosevelt and shit,

the dinosaurs that would come back and all these like amazing things that he knew about just as the security guy sitting there and chewing gum. this guy could have been the same thing. Again, not a nuclear physicist. He's not reinventing E equals MC squared. Nothing like that. But if someone were to know or accidentally have access to where, I don't know,

the bodies are buried around there, he'd be a good candidate. And I want to bring this up. You've heard me talk about the Gideon Spies book before and the first chapter in there. which is a book from the late 90s discussing a lot of, in this case, Israeli espionage and things like that. But this is, I'm going to relate this. This has nothing to do with Israel.

This is related to espionage as a whole. A strategy that's very famously discussed in that first chapter that I talked about five or six episodes ago of this, these solo episodes, is the idea of splitting the difference when it comes to a source. And the context where it's discussed in the first chapter of that book is as it relates to Dief in my favorite hotel in Paris, the Ritz. So the Katsya, Henri, or not Henri, Peter, whatever they called him in the book. It was a fake name. He was trying to procure a source at the Ritz. And the source, the way they explained is the source can't be as low as a janitor because they don't know enough.

They don't get access to enough real things. and they're not, they don't understand all the ins and outs and comes and goings of the hotel, right? But the source also can't be as high as the guy running the whole fucking place because now you get too close to the fucking sun. You're flying too close to it. You want to get someone in between who has access and can float under the radar. And the guy that they were targeting, and it was a real cotta targeting this guy at the time back in 1997, was Henri, who, Henri Paul, who ended up being. the driver for Princess Diana where she was killed and he was killed as well, which was certainly very interesting side story. But he was perfect because he didn't manage the place. He wasn't a

janitor, but he was the chauffeur. And he was in charge of getting very VIP people from one place to the other, which meant he knew who was there. He knew when they had to go somewhere, what time that was going to happen. Not only how it was going to happen, but he was fucking doing it. when you see a guy like Stephen Garcia, let's relate that back. He's not a janitor. And janitors have to have some kind of clearance too because, you know, there's fucking toilets around important stuff sometimes and things like that. Like dead seriously. I don't say that as a joke.

Like they're clean, you know, they're cleaning hallways where there's actual stuff that they might be able to see. Oh, yeah. But they may not. Something tells me they don't have the janitor mopping the floors of like the atomic propulsion system. every night. That's probably frowned upon. Yeah. You know, whereas the actual scientists are, you know, the highest level scientists are working on this. They're highly connected, highly educated, know a lot of people. It's messy to try to cultivate a source like that or compromise someone like that. But then in the middle, you got one of the lead security guys who knows where everything is.

If you showed them a map, like they show that soldier the map and Inglorious Bastards and say, where's the position? Where's position? Ah, man. He can point to everything on there because he's not the general, but he gets all the orders and he understands where things are. It's the same potential kind of thing here. So this guy, Stephen Garcia, he's another one who's disappeared. We haven't found him. What did he leave his house without? Stephen walked out of his house on foot with nothing but a handgun. Nothing but a handgun.

So again, let's go back to the phones here. Let's work the phones. Stephen, we know you know about the new reactor. You're going to tell us where it is. Go fuck yourself. I can't. Stephen, I'm not asking.

Yeah. We know where your mother lives. Here's her address. Open up your phone. They send him a picture of the morning. mom's house. He's like, oh, fuck. Oh, my God. Yo, that's, you don't fucking touch my mom, bro. And they're like, here's what you're going to do. You're going to come meet us. Don't play cowboy. Unarmed. He goes, all, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll come meet you. He's like, yo, fuck these motherfuckers.

It's like, I'm going out. Cox up. Goes out. Never see, never see. Never seen again. Again, pure spec. Listen, I got to, I got to paint a picture here. We got to at least try. that one was interesting to me. I code that one yellow. Could be nothing. Could be unrelated. He's not a scientist, but he did know where some bodies were buried.

When did he disappear again, Dief? Stephen disappeared back August 2025. Okay. So in review, cancer researcher, MIT physicist, they're kind of out on their own separate islands. The three people

working at Los Alamos slash Kansas City who are not scientists. And now let's go to the latest one, Amy Eskridge. Amy Eskridge was 34 years old, I believe, and she died in 2022, and the Daily Mail just put this all together. And remind me right after this, Dief, I want to come to your timeline of the story coming together, too. That was really good. Defe put together a great timeline of like how this got into. to the mainstream of like us all looking at it. But Amy Eskridge did not work for the government. She worked for her own company whose name was long and it escapes me right now.

Also known as the Gravity Research Institute. Wait, that was the name? That's like the name. It was called the Exotic Sciences Institute, also known as. Okay, the Gravity Research Institute. Yep. She was working on anti-gravity. She was working on the stuff that my friend Jesse Michaels has been obsessed with and has done some great work on. You can think along the lines of some of the Townsend Brown research he's done. You know, I said Charles Bueller on recently discussed this. It gets to things that defy gravity and you wonder where the technology comes from and if it was emanated from things that are not of this earth that we're in possession of. It gets weird, but it is a real

physics concept and something that there's a lot of people who believe and believe they have some evidence with it as well that we do have it. And it does exist. And we know. know how to do it. And how we got that is up for argument, but certainly something that would be scientifically earth shattering, no pun intended. So Amy worked on this stuff and she worked down in Huntsville, which means she's working with like when she's running her own company thief, you're dealing with the government as clients. Yeah. You're working on a contractual basis. NASA has a famous base there in Huntsville. This is where a lot of the Operation Paperclip guys went that does a lot of rocket propulsion stuff.

There's been some folklore related, and that's actually a very, that's a really conservative way of saying it. I said folklore, but like some folklore related to UFOs and UAP from down there. The other one you always hear about with that as it pertains to military-related places or government-related places. is not just Area 51, but Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, which is a whole kind of separate thing. Did you have something, Dief? I just wanted to make note that she is dealing with NASA a lot in what she's doing. They even did pull back in 2020. She was going to be planning to present novel foundational work regarding anti-gravity,

but she needed approval from NASA. Okay. So she also said in 2022, what was the exact quote, Dief? Yeah, so this was during a podcast. If you stick your neck out in public, at least someone notices if your head gets chopped off. If you stick your neck out in private, they will bury you. They will burn down your house while you're sleeping in your bed and it won't even make the news. That's why the institute exists.

And that was her institute. She also had a direct quote, I forget where I put it, where she talked about her life being in danger. Yeah, she said, Damn it. Yeah, she warned my life is in day. It's in the headline of a daily mail article as a quote, quote, UFO link scientists who quote warned my life is in danger, unquote, found dead at 34, becomes 11th mysterious case.

And the part of that that they should have been more clear on that was a little bit misleading is they, it made it sound like she was found dead yesterday. She found dead in 2022. And, you know, this is a brilliant woman with a million degrees working on some crazy shit stuff that is, you know, in the technological race of just the world itself, a country gets to that kind of stuff first. Not only do you not want to tell people, but you are 10 steps ahead of any other country before they even find out they're behind. and her disappearance, this is more of a red one for me. This is more like something there. Again, it's four years ago, though.

So let's look at that timeline of this story developing, Dief. And real quick, before we do that, I'm going to hit the head and then we'll be right back. Okay. All right, we're back. Before we keep going into this, Dief, I just want to say something looking at the time. We are, there's no way we're going to end up getting to swall well and some of that stuff today. So what will happen is Dief and I will record that. That'll be bonus content on Patreon and we'll probably cover that next week.

And if we don't get to Bilderberg as well, ditto will definitely go deeper into that next week. Just don't let me forget that deep. But I just want to put that out there because we knew we were not going to get through the whole missing scientist thing today. But there's still more that we really got to get to. And then we're going to continue to look at this next week with someone. of the work we've been doing on it and some of the news that'll come out. But, Defe, you had something on Amy? Yeah, with Amy, and again, I guess you could say this about a couple of the others where they'll happen and then they get announced four years, five years later. But with Amy, what

was interesting was there was no police report of her self-inflicted gunshot, no autopsy, and rapid cremation was ordered. So those were- it the family um i i could keep looking i couldn't i couldn't get anything concrete to say interesting interesting so the fact that she's saying and again people get paranoid sometimes but then she does off herself and you wonder if that's what it was the fact that someone like that was working so closely to something so important though and then what else well i'll also I just remembered too, the day after she, you know, offs herself, her institute is shut down and the web page is taken off the internet.

Gone like it was never there. Yep. I wonder who else has access to that. Didn't she had a husband? Or didn't she? Because that's another thing. With a lot of these people, their spouses were serious people too, in some cases, literally working on other areas of science, which is fascinating.

But while Dief is looking at that, I said I would talk about the genesis of this story and how it came together, because that's worth considering in that you do have to wonder about distractions for everything. It's unfortunate, but we do. And so Dief's timeline that perfectly lays out how this hit the mainstream. February 19th, Obama says aliens are real on a podcast. It goes viral globally. February 20th, knee-deep in the Epstein stuff, a week before the Iran stuff. Donald Trump goes, hey, look at the shiny object. I've directed the Pentagon to release UFO files. We're going to give you transparency.

Trying to get the attention off the fucking story, which, by the way, I don't know if you, if you saw, the Pentagon already missed a deadline on that. Yeah, violation of some law. Yeah, I saw that. Neither here nor there. February 27, General McCaslin, who we haven't discussed yet, is reported to disappear in the hours before the Iran invasion. He's the wildest one of this whole case, by the way. That's what really sent this thing. Because then shortly after that in March, the Daily Mail investigation begins. They aggregate three to four years of these separate cases, put it into one pattern. And then all you get all

the way to April 15th when I believe when the Amy Eskridge story is coming out. So we have 11. Peter Ducey literally in the White House asked Caroline Levitt, the press secretary about it. And she said they're going to look into it. And then Trump is at. about it on the White House lawn later outside of Marine Chopper Juan, wherever the fuck it's called, and says, yeah, we're going to put an investigation onto it, which means, Steve, oh boy, one out of, one out fished cash the tails up on it, baby. He's going to get to the bottom of it. When cash is looking, you can cash your check because you already won your fucking bet.

And when he's looking, that's the best part. He can look at two places at once. You know, he's a multi-pasker. Would he be considered the favorite or the under? I guess he would be the favorite when you're betting on these things since he's like on home tariff works for the government. All I'm saying is hammer the underdog then. I hammer the under. Yeah.

So let's see if the investigation turns anything up. But I say this because you do wonder about trying to create another, I have to say this, another potential shiny object for all of us to look at and say, ooh, look at that, you know, to get our mind off the stuff that matters. And then you already see the ties in timing and people personnel between Epstein and Iran. And then you start thinking about the ties between Epstein, nuclear physics and, oh, I don't know, aliens. It gets weird. You know, look, Zorro Ranch is 100 miles from Los Alamos. It's not a next door neighbor or anything. but Jeffrey Epstein was obsessed with anti-gravity among many other things.

It's a day trip. It's a day trip. Come on. Take out the Tahoe. Well, listen, if we pull out by eight, we're there by lunch. We're there by lunch. Come on. That's right.

You wonder if, like, maybe there will be a tie there. And that is really Pierce Beck. You know, that's, I don't have any, I don't have any evidence. Let me be very clear on that. I have zero evidence whatsoever. It's like me with anything I say when I walk in here on any given day. Oh, where'd you hear it? I just thought it.

But I'm just saying some of the themes at the top level are interesting. And when you look at them all, you're like, are they interrelated? Is this a part of the play that they're putting on for us and we have to say applause? Or do the applause when they say to do the applause. I don't know. But the fact that this got mainlined when it did and now you have it. mainstream that mainstream media White House reporters are asking about it and then reposting it on social and the White House is directly addressing and saying we're going to investigate.

Now, congressmen have come out and said, yes, really weird. We've got to investigate. It's another thing to talk about to where people don't talk about the giant satanic pedophile ring that seemed to be operating with complete diplomatic community on United States soil and conducting arms deals for a fucking super government of Bilderbergers and rough trials and bankers around the world to fund all the wars where we all die. everybody's happy. I don't know. That's just me. But hey, aliens are real. Aliens are real. You know I'm obsessed with the aliens thing. As a side note, I am, I certainly believe we're not alone in the

universe. I've done a lot of podcasts in the past related to the UFO topic. If you've noticed, I haven't really done one in a long time. The only people I've discussed that with are literal physicists that have been in here. And the reason is, I've talked about this publicly before, back in episodes 266 and 267, which were recorded the same day here with James Fox and Jason Sands. When the Jason Sands thing happened, I'm not going to get into the full story, but he was an alleged witness. Nice guy. When he came out and was pushed upon James Fox to be put into James, who's a very good friend of mine, brilliant documentary, to be put in James Fox's latest documentary, the program that came out in December 2024, when it was pushed upon him.

And then Jason Sands made claims that were verifiably not true. It's a whole separate story, but verifiably not true. I knew the people that had pushed that upon James. And I can't say who they are. That's off record. But like, there are people that have pushed other stuff in the past that I viewed as like, oh, that's interesting. Even if it's not like true, like, oh, maybe there's something there.

and now that puts all that in the question. And so I do feel like including people I've had in here related to the government or around the government as it pertains to aliens, I do feel like a lot of that is a distraction for something, meaning they're giving you a real idea, aliens, they're giving you another real idea, things in the sky we don't know about that could be related to aliens slash weaponry slash stuff we don't want people know about. Another real idea. Yeah, the government works on this. it's compartmentalized and they're serious physicists like fucking Jacques valet and and how putoffs of the world working on this and they work hand in hand with literal spies and military guys on it all potentially true but by the way here's all the information about videos we have and witnesses we have and things that happen and it's definitely all true and

I look at that and I go I don't think so on a lot of them doesn't mean the whole thing doesn't exist sometimes I wonder if that's the point to D let me invent a word here to decredibilize the whole fucking industry so that people go, ah, it's all bullshit, which I don't want to do. But I'm very obsessed with what we do know and trying to find something, the scratch on the surface that's like, ooh, maybe that's some real information. And so when I see these people, scientists working on rock, we're going to talk about that in a second, working on rockets, working on propulsion, working on anti-gravity, which we already did just discuss with Amy. and you know people who have access to information that's classified that could be related to things

not of this earth it does make the story a little more interesting but again the timing of them putting it together should be setting off a potential alarm bell and taken with a grain of salt given the fact that there's a lot of things that they would like to distract from right now of their own making they meaning the entire fucking system okay Democrats, Republicans, all of them. That's got to be said. The last part of this story that we're going to cover this week is the basics of the last five who are tied together and then we are going to go deep next week on the top of the pyramid here because. Yeah, I was going to say.

It's going to need some time. That needs its air. We got to marinate that. We got to marinate that. But the last five people I've saved from this list of 11 all have some direct correlation related to JPL, jet propulsion laboratory projects related to NASA. And that is General McCaslin, the very, very decorated Air Force General, Michael David Hicks, Frank Maywald, Monica Reza, and Carl Grillamar. I want to start with Carl. Carl is an astrophysicist at Caltech who's worked and advised on projects related to JPL.

Of all of them, he's the least related to JPL, but he's been around it. Yep. The story there is weird. But again, you got to, I have him marked yellow and here's why. He was killed, murdered on his front porch. Yeah. In February 2026. His wife says it is not related to any of this.

That doesn't mean that is the case. but she's like absolutely not. It's not related to any of this. But here's what's weird about it. The 29-year-old man whose name Allude escapes me right now who killed him in February. Freddie Snyder was caught by Carl roaming around Carl's yard in December 2025 with a gun

to which I believe it was Carl himself. Correct me in the comments if I have that detail wrong. Somebody called the cops. He was arrested and because the laws, you know, are basically catch and release for fucking everything in California. Thanks, Gavin. You know, he's let out of jail and two months later he comes back to Carl's house and this time unfortunately finishes the job.

Again, is it like an M.K. Oldra kind of thing? I don't know. But it's fascinating that a guy who happens to be tied to this same thing, these other scientists are dying under weird circumstances or disappearing on or have information on in the same time period is just killed by a random 29. year old with no motive who's sitting in jail right now awaiting trial it's interesting but certainly in respect to his family and i i do want to say that we have we do these stories in an in an entertaining educational way it should go without saying these are all real people these are families who have

lost these people and that is a very serious thing and i do not want to make light of that at all so i do think it's important that the wishes of the not the wishes the the the the explanation of the family to publicly tell people we don't think this is related. That does need to be said. And I hope it's not, by the way. It's not going to bring them back. But I hope it's not because it's even more sinister if it is related. But fascinating that in this same time period, he's gone down on his porch, no motive.

Mark him yellow. Michael David Hicks, I believe was the one who caused a death was not an accident. announced he died in 2023 and donations were asked to be given to alcoholics anonymous yes sir also marked him yellow because it well it doesn't give a cause of death certainly doesn't mention suicide doesn't mention murder or anything like that and it does allude to the fact that he had a drinking problem this is a scientist who worked in the jpl laboratory and he was working he was a research scientist who participated in nassas dart project and experiment to determine whether it is possible to divert potentially hazardous asteroids from striking Earth

overlapping with defense systems. Very serious guy. And by the way, Carl, the last guy I mentioned who was murdered on his porch, he was working on finding liquids on exoplanets far away, which if you remember Dr. Kipping, who was in here for episode 358, one of my favorite podcasts I've done ever, just awesome guy. We'll definitely have him back. He is the head of the, I forget the official name for it, but the, basically the astronomy lab at Columbia University here in New York, he works on a lot of exoplanet stuff. And there was another scientist in here who was also, I forget which one, but it was finding liquids on foreign plants. So serious stuff, serious work. Michael David Hicks is no different and it just went very under the radar. Again, I marked that one yellow

because it would appear his death was alcohol-related. Now, is he drinking because he knows too much? Is he drinking because... He got the call again? It's just like, man, I can't... I got to numb this. I can't do it no more. And, you know, he gets Liam Nese on the phone.

Michael, we know what you saw. Man of your skills are no match for men of mine. Maybe. Pure respect. Okay. But that's number two from JPL. Then there was Frank Maywald. This is the one. His work focused on building instruments capable of detecting chemical signatures,

including water, organic molecules, and other indicators scientists used to assess whether environments beyond Earth could support life, meaning talking about some of those exoplanets and stuff like that. He died in July 2024 at age 61. There was even less public acknowledgement of his passing. he was a long-time co-worker with Michael David Hicks, who we just mentioned at JPL,

and no cause of death is made public. Another one, you mark that yellow, like this is, that's interesting. Working on serious stuff. He's 61, he's not 31. Yeah. You know, people at 61, they get cancer. It could be nothing. You know, same time period.

worked with another guy who they didn't say much about his passing and there's another guy working on projects very related that I just gunned down on his porch without a motive interesting now we get to where it starts to get red hot though and these are the last two that I saved first you got Monica Reza

Monica Reza what do I have her on here she was JPL's director of the materials processing group and she disappeared she disappeared just four days before cassius did or was it it was it anthony which one because you have both on there she disappeared four days before one of the other los alamos people did and what's weird about her she went hiking with her friends you know moral of the story don't go for long walks alone without your phone don't go hiking just don't do it stay

home just stay home stay home watch tv you know waste the way your life at home. Don't go hiking, but she's 30 feet behind her friend. She was a very experienced hiker. Friend was a very experienced hiker. Friend sees her, smiles. They both wave. And then the next time the friend looks back, she's not there. She's never been found. Gone. She was working on projects in the early 2000s that were overseen from an intelligence perspective by Major General William Neal McCaslin, who through Air Force Research Initiatives, he led the Air Force Research Laboratory and oversaw groups funding materials, research relevant to JPL projects, particularly, as I said, in the early 2000s, which gives him some direct

overlap, if not face to face, but through similar materials with a very high-level scientist like Monica disappear we don't know where she is now macaslan and that's where we're going to close today mccaslin as i said disappears on february 27th 11 days 11 days what 11 days after um carl gillamar oh after carl's killed so mccasland is 68 at this point he's retired this is a guy we're really going to get into a story next week, but you want to talk about a forest gump of not just the U.S. Air Force, not just the scientific community, but of things related to the things that are unseen of this earth, potentially, and things that certainly involve rockets and nukes and stuff like that. This is your guy. Yeah. And he looks the part. He looks

he looks like that Delta Force dude from all the memes. Like same vibe. This was a brilliant man. So his, we will go through this in detail next week, but his wife reports him missing. His wife is also a brilliant woman, scientist who's worked on a lot of interesting projects. And he, I believe, he owned a lot of guns. When she reported him missing, she couldn't tell if any were gone from the safe. But he left without his phone, without... Same as Garcia.

Same as Garcia leaves with one handgun. Yep, nothing. later determine that. And he has not been found. And again, he's the tip of the spear here. And it's what broke the whole story open because of anyone who's got some serious claims to like, what the fuck? This is the dude. So like I said, we will go into that next week.

But you got to wonder. And this is something we'll talk about next week as we get more information. Could there be a foreign operation related to this? Certainly. if this is something, you know? People like the highest level scientists possess the most important intelligence information on Earth because it can really, no pun intended, it can include things from beyond Earth. And it needs to be taken very, very seriously when some of them are ending up disappeared

or dead. Maybe some of it, you know, maybe some of the disappears go into a way. witness protection program. Maybe it's the U.S. doing it as possible. But next week, we're going to go through the whole McCaslin thing because there's more information that still needs to come on that. But we'll go through that and Deif and I kind of downstream tied that to a lot of these people as well.

And we'll go through the foreign app idea. Because like, you know, could be. It could be. Peerspeck. Peer spec. Just a matter of who. That's the real question. When, where, why?

Exactly. But as I said, we weren't able to get to Swalwell on Bilderberg this week. I'm sorry to Blue Balls you on Bilderberg in particularly. We'll talk about that next week. We'll also, like, we're going to do an extra on Patreon right now where we do discuss these things. So if you want it early, you can join Patreon. Don't feel compelled to do that, though.

We will get to the Bilderberg thing. You can wait a week. I never want people to feel like you have to join Patreon. That's why we do early releases there. And that's kind of what it is. I want people to be able to have content. I appreciate everyone who supports me on the public platforms. That is all I need to all the people who do support me on Patreon.

That's way above and beyond. And I really, really appreciate that as well as YouTube members only. But don't feel like you got to join that. The link is down below if you would like to. But we will get to that next week as well. I'm just, you know, I don't like to do these longer than like 90-ish, 95 minutes. It gets a little long in the teeth for you to hear my dumb ass talking. So we'll cut it there.

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