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and said, listen, you know, my ex, my ex, I don't like her, and she is in prison for fraud.
She is not of the green card, the papers.
You get her out of country.
That's probably what he said, maybe in the accent, maybe not.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We're going to find out in a video in a minute.
But listen, in the words of the great Selena Gomez, if you want it, come and get it, palo.
We got receipts.
We've said what we got to say.
And I'm not going to back down along with, again, the thousands of other people.
people who are sitting in the same seat we are right now, we're not going to back down from
looking at the evidence and also discussing allegations and saying when things are pure spec.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome back to another episode of the Julian Dory Podcast.
I am Julian Dory.
And I'm Joey Dief.
How you, Duh?
How you doing?
Well, Diff, we got nothing on the schedule today except maybe we're getting sued along with
thousands of other people.
Litigations?
Little litigation, little liddy.
Getting a little lit up here in Hoboken,
and it's not just us.
It's a lot of people in three different countries.
More on that in a few seconds.
We are also going to talk about our dear friend,
and by dear friend, I mean insufferable bitch,
Gieland Maxwell.
There's a little bit of that in the news this week.
That certainly needs to address,
because don't you think that went really under the radar
like everything, Dave?
It's just classic biz.
Classic biz.
Seriously.
It's doing biz.
It really is.
You put Blanche in there,
a little busy biz.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
She's an asset now.
Oh, she's an asset.
Well, you know, we got a, you know, part in this lady.
She's an asset.
She can give us some good information.
Great information.
Come on biz, dude.
That's right.
That's just pure spec on that.
Yeah, just pure spec.
Pure spec.
Anyway, I also did promise we were going to go through the Bilderberg thing this week.
I'm sorry to Blue Balls, everyone, on that last week.
We were just ripping on a few other things and ran out of time.
So we will do that towards the top.
And then, yes, if you saw the latest episode number 413 with Lauren Conlin, she came in here for three hours and continued to break down the missing scientist case with us.
She has been on this, like since the jump, has been talking to family members around the country who are related to some of these people.
Also is doing a great job of separating some fact from fiction and ruling out some of these people, for lack of a better way of putting it, who probably aren't connected while also taking seriously things that could be.
connected, but there is more news hitting all over the place with that. And we're going to get to
some of that today, as well as some of the new claims that are, in my opinion, bullshit as well.
So this can be a mix. It's going to be a mix on that. So we got that on the schedule and then maybe
a couple other things if we get to it. I don't want to promise stuff that we're going to run out
of time on. But, you can't blue balls. Steve, let's start with the man of the hour.
Yeah. A dear friend, Paulo Zambole.
Myoamico.
So Palo Zampoli, who has absolutely no Twitter PR game, decided to take to Twitter this week with the following announcement, where he put in the caption, basically what's said in the screenshot there as well.
So I will read it and you guys can see it on the screen.
Second notice to all media outlets.
We confirmed that legal actions...
Should I read this in his accent, thief?
No, read it.
Read it.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
We confirm that legal actions are currently underway across multiple jobs.
jurisdictions, including the United States, Italy, and Brazil. Our legal team is actively identifying
and pursuing all individuals, entities, and accounts involved in the dissemination of false,
misleading, or defamatory content. Any media outlet or individual that publishes,
such content will be included in a class action lawsuit and held accountable to the fullest
extent of the law. As I said, this is targeting thousands of people and organizations.
we are just potentially, potentially one of them.
So what Defe and I decided to do was just go check as a quick bullet rehash from the last two
episodes when we've been focusing on our friend Palo.
Yeah.
All of the claims that were made as well as the things, the commentary we had around it,
anywhere where we said pure spec, hashtag pure spec, which means pure speculation.
Which that's immunity.
As soon as you hear pure spec, just saying.
It is immunity.
Just getting ahead of it.
By the way, thief, I didn't even, we didn't check this before, but I'm just thinking of this.
Isn't there some kind of law related to public figures being,
people employed in the public sphere, like in the government, being fully on the table as,
what's the term I'm looking?
There's like a legal term I'm thinking of right now.
But for satire, for fodder, for criticism, for-
It's like parody laws.
All these things, right?
There's laws related to being able to go at that.
So to be clear, there's nothing we said that is not fully backed by the Epstein files themselves
or, let me be even more specific, by things surrounding the Epstein files like journalist posted
with his consent New York Post articles, as pointed out by Twitter's Kazoo-Kathrin with full receipts.
So, hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review.
They're both a huge huge help.
Thank you.
Just as a very quick rehash, because you guys who have heard the last two episodes have heard this, but for people who are just catching up, here's what we had.
Number one, Zam Poli linked to Jeffrey Epstein and has previously done business with him.
That is backed with quite literal proof.
I'm going to get to Palo's own words on that in a minute.
But, thief, there was also an email, by the way, of young Jeffrey.
Epstein discussing Mr. Zampoli years after some of their business arrangements.
Just want to make sure I hit this.
Classic.
Epstein sent an email on February 15th, 2011, fresh out the pen, as they would say,
to Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayim, who sounds...
Who's that?
Well, what does he do?
He's either a prince or a cab driver.
Anyway, he says, be careful.
Zampoli is trouble.
Lots.
Jeffrey Epstein's calling you trouble, bro.
That's not a great look.
Not a great look.
But anyway, he has well-documented ties to Jeffrey Epstein when he was in charge of ID models,
he being Palo Zampoli.
That is on the public record.
The one thing that we said as pure spec, based on all of the litany of evidence surrounding this guy,
Palo and his interactions with Epstein, more of which I'm going to cover in a minute,
was the idea that he was trafficking models to Epstein.
There is certainly a lot of evidence to support that,
but he has never been convicted in a court of law,
and we made very clear that that was speculation on our ends.
So to the future judge watching this, Your Honor,
I'm sorry, you have to lose brain cells listening to me,
but I want to be very clear.
We made that clear then.
We're making that clear now.
Mr. Zampoli has never been convicted.
of any such offense. It's just a lot of smoke around the fire and we're a lot to comment on that.
That's in the public domain.
Your Honor, my client is Chinese. That's right.
Throw it away. All right. Okay. Probably didn't help. But okay.
So number three, they did try buying elite model management together. More on that that we haven't
covered coming in a minute from Mr. Zambol is on the mouth. Anyway, number four,
Paulo as the head of ID models appeared in page six multiple times a year, sometimes multiple times a month per again, Kazoo Catherine on X who brought the receipts. We put that in the last episode. I think we have won up thief, so we'll have that again right here. But this includes November 1999. Zampoli had journalist Jared Paul Stern write about a night out where Zampoli introduced him to quote his latest discovery, unquote, a 17-year-old girl who had just arrived from Australia only.
in New York. At that point, there was also a claim in that document referring to a 15-year-old,
or in a separate article from the same era, where Zampoli spotted a 15-year-old ninth-grader
still attending high school in Miami. The paper described hers, and this is the New York
Post-making this description, not Palo Zampoli, as about to become, quote, the world's most
popular ninth grader, unquote. These are real things backed by full documents. There is the screenshot
Once again, we love having evidence.
If you, again, I said this last week, if you zoom in on the inspirational bar hopping article right there, you can see all these things quoted out.
It's really beautiful.
That's the great thing about evidence.
There was also more Kazoo-Catherine content we had cited where it talked about the core four that Epstein had, referring to the core four women recruiters that he had, were also tied to Zampoli at the very least, Adriana Muti.
Chinska, who in 2006, while being verified as working for Jeffrey Epstein at that time and in a legal
capacity, I might add, was on the ID models payroll at the same time. This is in the public record.
Kazu-Catharine also had the EFA number, number, number document.
And the original article right here. And the original article. Love that. That's great work.
Seriously, shout out Kazou-Catherine. On Twitter, you can go follow her over there.
So when we're citing that kind of stuff, obviously, that's back to research.
And I really appreciate that.
There was also the allegations report, which we made very clear.
I want to say this was around the 25-minute timestamp last week.
We made very, very clear that these are allegations that have not been, as far as I can tell,
pursued in criminal court, where in 2003 there were allegations against Palo Zampoli,
having had a sexual assault at his hands that,
He did upon someone else.
I forget what her name was.
It was a fact that they report and her name was Victoria Drake.
Yeah, you got it.
Perfect.
So anyway, we also talked about how it was like weird diplomatic immunity claims
because something occurred at the Department of State.
Yeah, we got into that.
It got diplomatic immunity claims, but then his position wouldn't give him diplomatic immunity.
He was involved with Dominica at that time.
So there was a lot of weird stuff going on, all of which,
we do have the claims and backing voice.
Correct.
And there was also through that the revelation that in addition to all of his duties is one of the world's preeminent modeling agencies,
finding talent around the world, apparently including 15-year-olds.
That is what the New York Post said, so we'll reference that.
You know, he also had time to be the ambassador for the oceans and the high seas.
Was that what it was called?
for the oceans in the high seas for the great nation of dominica which you and i had definitely heard of
before last week give yourself that credit but he was doing that as far back as october 2013 and by
20 fall 2023 when those allegations came in he was allegedly no longer acting in that capacity
as of earlier that year which would question any type of immunity he might have again like yeah yeah it's
his immunity. Very weird. In a place like that for a crime that is alleged to be what it was.
It's certainly very questionable. But then two episodes ago, the reason Palo Zampoli, our dear friend,
came up is because of his ex-wife, Amanda Ungaro, who is in, I believe, it's reported Rio de Janeiro right now after she was
deported before facing trial for alleged felony fraud claims in America at the behest of Palo Zampoli,
who called a senior official at ICE, and these are according to many reports online from various
outlets. So again, might not be true, but this is what people are reporting. Palo Zam Poli,
who is, what's the name of that title again in the organization?
Special representative for global, you know, partnerships. Partnerships. Right. That's his official
designation in the Trump administration, because people that Jeffrey Epstein finds to be trouble are
just perfect to be hired into our government with our taxpayer dollars. Anyway, so we are
going off the allegations of these reports, as we said, but he allegedly called a senior official
at ICE and said, listen, you know, my ex, my ex, I don't like her and she is in prison for fraud.
She is not of the green card, the papers. You get her out of country. That's probably what he said,
maybe in the accent, maybe not. I don't know. I don't know. We're going to find out in a video in a minute.
But listen, in the words of the great Selena Gomez, if you want it, come and get it, Paolo, we got receipts.
We've said what we got to say.
And I'm not going to back down along with, again, the thousands of other people who are sitting in the same seat we are right now.
We're not going to back down from looking at the evidence and also discussing allegations and saying when things are pure spec.
We do a very, very diligent job with that around here.
And I know all of our friends in the audience who constantly comment pure spec are well aware of that.
So thank you to you guys for listening very closely when we do that.
I was thanking them, yeah.
I saw it.
It's just spec, dude.
It's pure spec, Paolo.
Right.
So, Diff, I got a couple videos right there of Zam Poli.
The first thing is Zam Poli himself and he's speaking in Italian.
So we're going to go with some of the caption right here.
If you go up, I just want to read the people before.
They hear him talk.
This is again from Kazoo-Kathrin, giving a great write-up of the explanation of this interview that he is doing with R-A-I report, I guess it's called.
It's Italian TV.
Right.
So Paolo Zampoli told Italian national television, this is from Kazou-Katharine, that he knew Epstein had very, quote, young girls, minors, masseuses, unquote.
And I want to make clear.
He's saying minors.
It'd be one thing to say young girls.
People would say, well, maybe he's talking about 21-year-olds.
Then he says minors.
So he is admitting that he knew Jeffrey Epstein had minors.
This is a man, I remind you, he was involved in some level of at least potential business with.
I knew he had girls.
I knew, but they weren't mine because they weren't even models.
They were young girls, minors, masseuses.
The models were a cover-up for this Epstein.
Erano Raccatsini
Minoreini
Masagiatri
I actually don't know that word
That's a new one for me
There are four admissions in one statement
He knew Epstein had girls
Not suspected, not heard rumors
Sapivo, he knew
He knew that they were minors
He did not use donne or ragazzi
He chose
Rackazine, the Italian
Dominionative for young girls
Then clarified with Minorani
The legal term for under 18
the literal legal term, I might add, in Italy.
He knew what they were there for.
Mazetrachi, we don't, that means masseuses.
This is what the exact euphemism in Palm Beach Police reports
in the 2007 non-prosecution agreement in the Maxwell trial said.
Anyone near Epstein's operation knew what massage meant by using the words,
Zampoly confirmed he did too.
He described the structure.
Le model, erano, an cover-up.
The models were a cover-up.
You do not describe something as a cover-up unless you understand
what is being covered.
Where I might, let me, let me be fair and make an argument for Palos and Poli right here.
He may be referring to that legally in the past tense, meaning he knows now it's a cover-up.
Now, I think, pure spec.
I think he knew back then.
But in a court of law, I know he can afford a good attorney.
They could very easily make that argument he's referring to in the past.
I'm sure he can hire Dershowitz, right?
He can afford that bill.
Alan will argue this case all day.
He loves these cases.
So let's just go down a little bit and get him in his own words
so that people can see.
I just want people to get a feel for how Powell and her ex.
I don't have the girls.
I don't know, but not were the men, because it's nancy.
It's a minoreen, massagiatrish.
That's him saying what we just described.
That's him saying what we just described he was saying.
There's another video there, Dief.
I have where he talks specifically about the elite model management claim
when Jeffrey Epstein and Paolo in 2004 allegedly made an effort as a part of a partnership,
which may have included other people.
I don't remember that detail.
So let's be conservative and say it did.
It wasn't just the two of them.
Might have been just the two of them, but I don't remember.
that so let's be clear could be more but there was at least a partnership group that involved the
two of them where they tried to buy elite model management in 2004 and let's see what he had to say
are there i forget let's see are there subtitles on this epstein came to me because he wouldn't be able
to buy it on his own because there were requirements for the
buyer, had to be someone in the industry. It couldn't just be a fund. And he talked to me about it.
Then the whole thing fizzled. He didn't buy it and I lost the bid. There you go. All right,
that's enough right there. So again, he is confirming that that is a real thing. So we have that.
Dave. Any final words for Palo?
Ariever-derci.
All I'll say is, vafungu la person that's
securely has fatto niente de malay with Epstein.
That's some good stuff.
All right.
I just don't, I really got a problem with people who
clearly have done stupid things in the past.
Okay?
Let's not even call them criminal.
Let's call it, be conservative and call it stupid.
Stupid associations, bad biz.
all these types of things. I have a real problem with those people
then finding a way to fail their way upward
and upon failing their way upward, getting into positions of elite power
even if it is a prestige worldwide sounding title he has in the White House. He's at least
flying next to J.D. Vance to Iran fucking talks. Yeah, he gets the perks.
He gets the perks. I have a problem with people like that taking their big
fucking boot, no pun intended to the great nation of Italy, and trying to stamp it down on
people's faces for pointing out their past stupidity that they're trying to run from while
hiding behind the power that they have. So we will always call that out. And I don't know,
this guy really just pisses me off. Really, really, something really, really skeevy about him
and wrong. And like I said, when Jeffrey Epstein's calling you trouble, not good for biz.
Not good for biz. To say the least. Anyway, D. Len, think she's getting bored?
uh dude fuck um i'm trying to be a positive guy but i just it's just not it hasn't been looking good i think
i think she i think she's gonna get the pardon yeah i heard this week this might be total
total fake news but check this because i just thought of this someone said she's allowed to have a dog in
prison that might be completely made up what that dog know but i saw that in the background
of my mind. She was allowed to play with a service dog at her minimum security prison.
All right. That's not the same. Yeah. See, there you go. And then she got banned from the official
puppy training program. All right. That's good. I appreciate that. I didn't know we had those in prison.
We're having prisoners train the dogs, huh? Well, I knew about that. But like the claim of owning a dog
in prison, that would have been a bridge too far from me. But she was moved from her prison,
as we well know months ago, into a minimum security facility with all kinds of perks after having
a meeting with Trump's Justice Department in 2025 discussing all kinds of things behind closed door
about Epstein with one Todd Blanche who now happens to be at the time of this recording,
the acting attorney general of the United States who we've covered this.
He doesn't know about any claims related to Mr. Epstein and sex trafficking women and, you know,
and if he did, he would tell you.
Nothing to see here, folks.
But let's go to this first one.
Gulen Maxwell sent a USB to the DOJ shortly after Melania,
who was in the emails with Gulen.
We've covered that in the past.
Came out with her statement.
So let's go down.
This is from The Daily Beast, right?
Yeah, there is.
Okay.
So Jeffrey Epstein's accomplished,
Gellan Maxwell sent a mystery USB drive to the Justice Department.
Days after Melania Trump sought to distance herself for the pair's heinous sex crimes.
The disgrace former socialites sent the U.S.
be on April 16th in a fresh attempt to quash her criminal conviction and 20-year jail sentence
for helping Epstein recruit and abuse women and girls. While the details of the electronic
files are not known the timing of it, seven days after the First Lady delivered a surprise
statement about Epstein and Maxwell, raised eyebrows across Washington. In her April 9th statement,
Melania Trump denied any ties to Epstein's crimes and demanded that lies being spread about her must
end. All right, let's go down. I'm going to skip some of this. So goes through her email with
Lee Len. In a letter to federal judge, Paul Engelmeyer, Clayton, I'm sorry, the mysterious USB was received
this week by Trump prosecutor Jay Clayton, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York,
who Henry Abbott, I think on camera, had something to say about. In a letter to federal judge,
Paul Engelmayer, Clayton confirms her seat of the package and asks the court to give the
government until June 5th of file a response. He did not outline details of the material
Maxwell sent, but noted that her arguments appear to be duplicative and
meritless. Credit words do. I appreciate him saying that. Let's see if they end up backing that up
and sticking to that. According to Clayton Maxwell also cited about 50 exhibits to support her claims,
but only 33 were included in the package. Come on, that's bad biz lawyers. You got to do better than
that. Boo. And he describes the initial review, yada, yada, yada, okay, nothing else to see there.
Basically, she's trying to get out. The second link I have there, I'm sorry,
The third link is from Comer.
So this is where it starts to get.
You don't want the second one?
Interesting.
I don't need the second one because the Daily Beast just covered it.
But U.S. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer says some panel members,
now this is in Congress, are open to U.S. President Donald Trump pardoning.
Not commuting?
pardoning
Guelan Maxwell
to secure
her cooperation
in the Epstein investigation
that's why I say it dude
secure
asset
we got
listen we got to do this for her
she's going to be helping us
this is a security issue
oh biz
Ghelan Maxwell
whose father as we well know at this point
is
former scumbag
super spy
Robert
Maxwell, who died in very mysterious circumstances in 1992, as they all do.
1991, I'm sorry.
As they all do, Dief.
But Yelan Maxwell, since before her father's death, but very specifically, shortly after her father's death, was by Jeffrey Epstein's side.
She was the chief recruiter of all victims, of all ages, from the lowest, you know, most disgusting acts all the way to
women who were of age who then got raped. This is a woman who referred to the 12 to 14 year old
girls that she would recruit in West Palm Beach for massages where they would be assaulted as
newbiles. She viewed them as human trash. This is a woman who had a clear sickness and also
took part, according to many victims, in some of the sexual assaults. I believe the farmer
sisters, if I remember correctly, were among some of the people who behind
their names have officially made that claim.
I want to say Annie Farmer, the younger sister, made that claim,
but I'm remembering that off the top of my head,
so please check me in the comments on that.
This is a woman who has serious ties to being an espionage spy,
which means the same thing, obviously.
But someone who traveled the world, gallivanted around the world,
connecting with the most powerful people,
and getting them into situations where beyond just taking pictures with them to blackmail them,
where they would actually then commit heinous acts and be blackmailable targets for whatever
means, for whatever end goals she and the people she worked for had behind the scenes.
This is a woman who was convicted in December 2021 for sex trafficking girls and women to no one,
according to the government, as the semantics of that case ended up playing out.
Nonetheless, she was convicted.
And a woman who no doubt had access to at least some of the largest secrets,
I don't think I'm being exaggerating, saying this,
some of the largest known secrets to mankind that exist today.
for all of the lack of justice in this case and the lack of prosecutions and the lack of any ability to give the American people what we deserve, which is the ability for it to see powerful individuals answer for their heinous crimes and prevent something like this from ever stop from ever happening again. In addition to that slap in the face, if they pardoned this woman, Jeffrey Epstein's right hand woman, it would be one of the most
abysmal, disgusting, clear in your face inside jobs ever perpetuated upon the American public
and for that matter, the public of the world. And so I say unequivocally, I don't give a fuck
what information she promises she could give. I don't care what administration is in charge
when and if something like this happens, if Gieland Maxwell is pardoned, it is not only a total
disgrace, that is a middle finger the likes of which are in a line with let them eat cake.
If you know, you know.
Andy Farmer weighed in on this, Steve.
I have that quote.
I think a victim should be heard on this.
And that's why I'm remembering, I believe she was literally assaulted by Gieland Maxwell herself,
which makes this even more powerful.
But she said, before you consider a pardon of a convicted sex offender and trafficker,
imagine explaining it to your wife, sister, or daughter.
Could you live with knowing that you've chosen to put a felon who recruited, groomed, and threatened
underage girls and young women above survivors?
My sister, Maria Farmer, risked everything to report Yelan Maxwell, and I was asked by
our government to be a witness against Maxwell at trial.
A pardon is profoundly insulting and a deep betrayal.
In the clearest terms possible, this move would be detrimental to survivors.
We asked the Department of Justice to permanently close the door.
on any pardon or commutation for Maxwell
and instead opened the door on a criminal investigation
into the enablers of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell's abuse.
I retweet every single thing she said there.
That was perfectly said from someone
who had to see this horror up front.
Yeah, that's crazy. If she gets pardoned,
that's the end of law, as we know it.
I agree.
But if she does get pardoned,
something tells me Alan Dershowitz is going to be around that case.
Best believe that.
That's pure spec, but something tells me,
he's got a direct line to the people
that would be involved in such a thing
and Alan Dershowitz this week
made the news again
as he finds a way to do
finds his way into the middle of every story
don't he, Dief?
Yeah, he knows good biz
he knows how to get it rolling
and get it rocking, you got to go straight
to the press, he knows the playbook.
He does know the press playbook for sure
certainly a PR whore
if you will
no insult intended.
It's just pure spec that he's a PR whore.
But apparently you have to say that.
People are very litigious, Steve.
Yeah.
It's getting scary around here.
It's like a trigger warning, but it's a pure spec warning.
Yes. This show is satire.
Alan Dershowitz registered as a Republican, according to himself.
And, you know, he said the quiet part out loud when he did this.
He listed off every way in which he is, according to every domestic form of policy,
a liberal Democrat, but said he had to register a Republican for one reason.
You want to take a guess what that reason was, Dief?
I can guess that it has to do with a country in the Middle East.
That's right, a country that's not America.
Israel.
He said that the left has become synonymous with the worst policy for the safety and security
of the country of Israel, which is not America and is not the country that he was born in.
And because the right wing seems to be so perfectly still bald.
off by Israel's interest, just follow the money there. He's decided that that alone is enough
for him to register a Republican. It harkens back to the late great Sheldon Adelson, Defe, whose wife
Miriam is still around, but Sheldon Adelson once said he has one issue and one political
issue only, Israel, but he was the biggest Republican donor of all time, or one of them, I should
say. You know, I just, stuff like that is indefensible. You see the poll numbers on people below age 50
on the left and right and how they feel about the government of Israel and their actions and
their influence in America, attempt to influence America. Yeah. Numbers aren't looking good,
people. So at some point, you're going to have to read the room because,
especially the longer wars go on, wars that are not in our interest, which seem to happen again and again and again,
you know, even older people are going to wake up. And we went through a poll a couple weeks ago where some of that's already happening.
And when you're talking about older people, people in their 60s whose entire lives have been propagandized to believe like Israel good, everyone else over there bad, you know, when some of them aren't even waking up, that's not a good harbinger.
if you're in the interest of the safety and security of Israel, like Alan Darshowitz.
I wish no ill will towards any country.
I also don't wish any ill will between countries completely unnecessary,
unnecessarily where civilians are being killed in the tens of thousands as a result.
And right now, we see that happening with Israel.
Also, I had this for the end, Dief, to maybe get to, but let's pull it up.
There's a link there.
the White House official explanation of Operation Epic Fury in Iran
quite literally wrote the quiet part out loud, if you will.
I mean, we already knew this.
They've already, Marco Rubio said this out loud when we did it.
Mike Johnson said it out loud.
Donald Trump all but said it out loud.
But literally within the explanation of the war on state.gov slash release slash whatever, da, da, da, da, da.
I'm going to read this word for word.
Epic Fury is only the latest round of an ongoing international
armed conflict with Iran, as the United States has explained in multiple letters to the UN Security Council,
including most recently on March 10th. This is what they choose to lead with. The United States is engaged
in this conflict at the request of and in the collective self-interest, self-defense, of its Israeli
ally, as well as to exercise the United States' own inherent right of self-defense. That's just like a little foot,
right there. Now you see the influence some of these guys have, and you see them saying these things
out loud like Dershowitz who's got the recline to the White House.
And, you know, if we get to it later, we'll talk about the Wall Street Journal report
on some of the influence with this war.
And I say it like that because the Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch,
who is a very, very strong pro-Israel guy, who is one of the two people that was listed in
the New York Times report several, a couple weeks ago, as being the key drivers behind the scenes
trying to convince Trump to attack Iran. And those two people were Benjamin Netanyahu and
Rupert Murdoch. So when the Wall Street Journal is reporting some of this stuff whose literal
owner is in the can for the opposite, open your eyes on that. But yeah, congratulations,
down Dershowitz on your new identification, whatever that means. And I wish you all the best.
Also, one last thing before we get to Bilderberg and then the missing scientist, Steve. So we have a new
Fed chair coming in? Oh, is he a good guy? They run a vet on him. You know, let me be really clear.
I don't know. I don't know. I, Kevin Warsh, I wouldn't know him if I crossed him in the street.
I haven't gone and looked at his old monetary policy in detail from when he was, I believe,
on the Federal Reserve Board. I hope I got that right. But he wasn't in charge of the Fed,
but I believe he was on the board. I don't remember any of his policies. I can't tell you if he's
good, bad or indifferent in that way.
Couldn't tell you if he's a great guy behind the scenes or a bad guy behind the scenes.
No idea.
But what I can tell you is again, I've said this again and again, the optics of the Trump
administration in their hirings is laughably bad.
Like, Biden's was so bad we would get people that didn't even identify as a gender in
fucking roles with the nuclear codes and then they'd end up stealing luggage at airports.
If you know, you know.
This is in a different way bad.
and whether it's a Palo Zam Poli
or whether it's a Kevin Warsh.
Kevin Warsh's father-in-law is Ronald Lauder.
It's the first name's on Ronald, right?
Who's the head of Estee Lauder,
who is also the head of,
can we pull it up, Dief?
I don't want to get the name wrong.
The international something.
He's a very, very pro-Israel guy.
He is the head of an organization that was,
let's pull it up.
I don't even want to.
I didn't want to fuck around with this.
I'd have it wrong.
Robert Warsh?
No, it's going to be Ronald Loder, from Estey Lauder.
Yeah, I got it.
He's the president of the World Jewish Congress.
That's what it is.
Sorry, I should have had that people.
And among the people on the board there are David the Rothschild, the jokes write themselves, people.
Like, again, Kevin Warsh might have nothing to do with it.
Might have nothing to do with it.
I might not listen to his father-in-law at all.
I know a lot of people don't like their in-laws.
But like the optics of that,
when you're in the middle of people looking at this shit more than ever,
to put this guy out there optically.
No disrespect to Kevin.
Maybe he's a nice guy.
It's just not smart.
Or as thief would say, bad biz.
It is bad biz.
Really, really, really bad biz.
I think it's just part of it, though.
I think they've got to just get everybody that's in the same.
circle in where they can, you know.
And it doesn't help.
Pierce back, just saying.
It's pierced back, but it doesn't help that it's also the Fed, which is this viewed as a
disastrous institution that people got a lot of thoughts about, including its inception
back in 1913, and they are right to have some of these thoughts, is a place that has been
responsible for inflating away the wealth of people, particularly since the 1970s coming off the
gold standard for decades now.
and is a part of whether it's on purpose or not is up to you to decide,
but as a part of the basic, what I would describe in phraseology,
as legislating a way of the middle class in the United States.
Slowly but surely I've always referred to the Stephen Pinker chart
from Enlightenment now in his book back in 2018,
where he shows the separation of the middle class
and Stephen Pinker, of course, is in the Epstein files
because fucking everyone's in the...
Steve Foss, God damn it.
I just think that once they get all their folks in,
then they can engineer another crisis if they need to.
If they need to.
Just in time for midterms or whatever it be.
I don't blame you for thinking that.
And speaking of engineering crisis,
God, you didn't even plan that.
That was great.
There was a crisis meeting.
This is what I blew balls people with last week.
There was a crisis meeting in Washington, D.C., no less,
of the Bilderberg group a week and a half ago.
And there was only one, as far as I could tell, only one journalist outside this hotel in Washington, D.C.
That was surrounded by offense for a long time.
More on that in a second.
There was only one journalist cover in this.
And I want to give this guy a huge shout out.
Dan Dix from Press for Truth, a Canadian independent journalist, wasn't even from America, flew into our country to do this.
Shout out to Dan Dix.
And he was taking videos all week.
But this was the first time in 33 years.
there's that number again, Dief.
Where as far as anyone can tell from reporting
that Bilderberg had their meeting, I guess, moved up
and viewed it as a crisis meeting.
And Dan Dix was there with the scoop,
including he was taking videos from far away,
yelling at like Alex Karp,
who was apparently as a member of Bilderberg
and was invited along with the attendees there
while he was leaving the hotel
and given a weird peace sign outside his limo.
And there was some other people.
people as well that he was catching. He might have been the guy that took the picture of the
MI6 head who's like great uncle was a Ukrainian Nazi during World War II. Neither here nor there.
But basically Dan Dix was on this. And so we have a couple links. We covered this in the bonus last
week on Patreon and I said I would get to it publicly as well. So shout out to all you
who waited for that. Also as a side note, I appreciate everyone who's on Patreon and YouTube
members only. We do the early releases over there and we do stuff uncensored.
for the most part as far as like some things you do have to censor on youtube like words you have to
bleep out and stuff like that but you know they are all early releases i like giving the people in the
public also what they want so special thank you to all the people on patreon doing that but i never
want people to feel obligated that to go to patreon or members only we put our content out in public so
everyone can enjoy it you guys watching the show is plenty of support right there i i really really do
appreciate that i've said that since day one i will never stop saying that so thank you to everyone
one, seriously. But I believe you had the guest list, right, thief? Yeah. It's slainty.
So this is the guest list. Builderberg meeting 2026. It says confidential on the top right.
This is a very official piece of paper and it's watermarked with confidential across. And it shows the
list of participants. I'm just looking from far away. I met Stacey Abrams. Yeah, I see Henry
Cravis's wife, Henry Kravs from KKR, his wife who is the chairman of the Museum of Modern Art.
She's on there.
These are people, they have them listed on the left side by their country of origin.
But just looking across this, who's on there that's really interesting.
Mark Carney, Mark Carney from Canada, the prime minister.
Who else you see, Dief?
No, it's Francois Philippe Champagne.
It's a cool name.
That is a cool name.
Probably not a cool guy.
Pierce back.
Pierce back.
Minister of France and National Revenue.
and national revenue in Canada.
Sounds French.
Another Canadian.
Yeah.
Okay.
CEO of Stripe, Patrick Collison.
Yep.
Dan Driscoll, the U.S. Secretary of the Army, nothing to see there.
We're going to get to what the agenda was in a second.
That's the else, Dan Dix also got that.
All right now.
Scanning, scanning, scanning.
Alex Carp.
Alex Carp, as we said, is right there.
These are people basically who are, if I could summarize it,
People from governments.
People from media who are clearly on the inside.
People from technocracy.
Major industry leaders.
People from espionage.
People from, I said from governments, but also specifically like ambassadors,
people that go around the world to other countries on behalf of a country.
Let's go to the next one.
Demy's Hesabi's, the co-founder and CEO of DeepMind from Google.
AI company.
Okay.
This is the next page.
Peter Thiel was there.
as well. I don't think we're at T's yet, but Satya Nadella, the CEO of Microsoft.
These people were all, like, all these people were in a Washington, D.C. hotel and no one was there.
And then Dan Dix took a funny video where the like temporary fencing they put up around the hotel was blown over by the winds.
And he was like, it was God doing it to blow the cap off of all this corruption.
Editor-in-chief of Bloomberg, editor-in-chief of the economist.
Yep.
CEO of Deutsche Bank.
The Economist was owned by the Rothschilds
until about a month and a half ago.
They sold, it was partially owned by the Rothschilds.
They sold, I forget what their percentage stake was,
but they did sell that stake.
That's interesting.
And then we see Rishi Suh Knoch, member of parliament
and former prime minister of Great Britain.
We see Peter Thiel.
As I said,
Fareed Zakaria,
host of Freed Zakaria GPS on CNN.
You know, the thing about this list is it is people from every race alleged religion, though I would argue probably none of them have one, pure spec, and country and place and type around the world.
They're very diversified.
I will give them that.
They're very diversified except in one key metric, Dief.
What's that?
Anyone who is in any way not associated with an elite circle.
They don't have any representative, therefore, of 99.
9.999999% of the earth. These are all people who are of wealth, means, power, and interior
circles where all of the places they show up have watermarks that say confidential and nobody knows
nothing. Eventually they just had like a bus driver in there. It's like Mike Johnson,
bus driver. It's like, man, I'm just, I'm just making sure they keep it within bounds,
okay? That's all I'm here to do. That's good for ops. Do we have the agenda, though, too? Yeah, yeah.
Checked those. He's got it up. All right. So the agenda for Bilderberg 26 was released.
AI, Arctic Security. Cue all the pyramids underneath the Antarctica, people out there.
China. Digital finance, energy diversification, Europe, global trade, the Middle East, Russia. We're covering most of the map at this point, thief.
Transatlantic Defense, Industrial Relationship. That sounds a lot like what Kiriaku said, arms deals, you know, that kind of that kind of.
Ukraine, which is still a war killing millions of people literally still going on.
USA, future of warfare, and the West.
So don't worry, everybody.
These people, these in some cases actually elected, I do have to say that, but in most cases,
unelected in an unelected forum or meeting in this hotel with some nice seafood towers
deciding what your future is, regardless of where you're from around the world, in war, not war,
or going to be in war.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Good luck.
It's just crazy that they do this stuff right in front of you.
What are we going to do about it?
Apparently not a goddamn thing.
Nothing.
I talk about it on YouTube.
Buy another Laboooooo.
Yes.
Buy a Labu.
Maybe a Chio pet for a time.
Order Uber eats and get a Labuobu.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the missing scientists.
Yeah, dude, I feel like when we did it last week,
we were like so like I was blown to the tits.
And I feel like now I'm just like,
eh, this isn't as crazy as I thought.
Like, it's still crazy.
Right.
But there's still so much to be said.
There's three things to be said right off the bat.
Some of the quote unquote missing scientists and air quotes,
because not all of them are scientists,
are bullshit and shouldn't be tied to the story.
I feel pretty strongly about that.
Again, I said last week, I hesitate to use the term rule out because I'm a YouTuber
and it's like, you're going to know what seat you sit in, pal.
But like, when you look at the evidence of some of these,
it's like I think there's a lot of things pointing to that's not connected.
The second thing that's that is also probably true here that I'll talk about more in a second
is the fact that this does feel like it is an attempt at making a story to be a distraction
from the story that they tried to make a distraction for another story that they don't like.
And those two stories I'm referring to on the distraction chain of everybody run over here,
now run over here, now run over here are the Iran War, which has been not good for the
West and to this point and of course the Epstein files which quick sidebar I have been stopped
on the street by people multiple times over the past couple weeks saying that they really
appreciate the fact that Dief and I are still covering this at least a little bit every week
and not letting this die and I have really really
appreciated hearing that because I do my best to do the right thing and, you know, we're entertainers,
but we're covering real shit on this show, on this specific show where Defe and I are doing this
because we're covering the news cycle and stuff like that. You know, I have seen this die off
in the algorithm. I've seen it be less than optimal to be the thing to cover for sure. It's not exactly
the most monetized topic either. I don't care. I've looked at this.
case for seven years. Everyone out there listening, you guys, many of you have looked at this case
obsessively just like me. And we are all fed an algorithm that tells us what to look at next.
And if there's one little small part, we can do on our little corner of the internet to at least
put something in there to where this story stays alive so that perhaps we can look back and say
maybe if some justice gets done, we did our little part. You know, I do take a lot of pride in that.
So I've appreciated the people that have said that.
There have also been a lot of people in DMs saying that as well.
So that that is why we stay on that.
And again, some of the stories we talked about this week, chances are you guys didn't even see that because of all the other shit going on.
And, you know, it's like another story, another story, another story.
And that's why with the distraction aspect of the missing scientist story, there's a lot of people jumping on this that I'll get to in a second, including from the government that it just feels like.
they're excited to talk about this in a way where instead of being really actually concerned about national security
we're like we'll just throw a missing scientist over and over again they'll stop talking about the disaster in iran
and then maybe when i start thinking about that they'll don't they won't even remember about that epstein guy
you do have to say that here and i think i said there were three things there i just went on a long tangent
but if there was a third thing it's that at that this is what it was at the top of the pyramid
of this missing scientist case,
there's some concern
with at least a couple people there.
Yeah.
That disappeared.
Actually, a fourth thing as well.
I just remembered this.
Fourth and fifth.
The kind of fourth,
but we'll call it fourth and fifth.
Fourth, there's a few other cases
that are allegedly coming up right now
that we have to look at more
that might be something
or they might not.
They might be just a part of the distraction
to build it up.
And fifth,
also what could be a distraction
here. Got to look at this more. We're going to examine it in a few minutes. But there's also reports of,
I think it was at least seven missing scientists over the past couple years in China.
China, yeah. Who have disappeared. And the reason why you have to say,
journalistically, well, there could be a there there with things like this is because when you
look at the history of the world, especially since World War II, look throughout the Cold War and
things like that, scientists were targets of countries like the U.S. and Russia, USSR, I should say,
from back then, and continue to be because of their brains and their minds and the things they
have access to and the vital information as it pertains to national security that they could
give up if you started taking their fingernails. Just saying. All right. So let's start with
Amy Eskridge. We talked about her on last week's episode for about three, four minutes because it was
just coming out at the time. And then Lauren Conlon and I in episode 413, which dropped
yesterday by the time this is dropping on Saturday, we also discussed her and Lauren had similar
reservations as Dief and I do, having been able to review it more after last week's recording.
first of all when the daily mail came out with the headline 11th missing scientists linked to case
they made it sound and it was amy escridge they made it sound like this was a brand new
death or disappearance amy escridge to be clear died by suicide in 22 so it was not that was
a misleading kind of thing which again adds to the distraction narrative here if that is a real narrative
But we watched a video with Lauren Conlin.
There's another I'm going to play in a minute that we didn't watch with her.
And there are many videos floating around of Amy Eskridge
because she did interviews and talked on the internet before she died.
Where it is so, so clear that at the very least she was abusing all kinds of substances,
which maybe some people say, oh, your life's in danger, for real.
You end up turning to things like that possible.
but she had alleged history of schizophrenia and serious, serious issues.
And furthermore, someone I know well spoke to someone extremely close to her last week,
who was unequivocal that A, she did actually commit suicide.
And B, her work was not nearly as serious as she tried to say.
She was not an idiot, to be clear.
Amy was actually heavily educated within, we read off some of her education last week, within science fields.
And that was really her life interest.
But, you know, her father basically set up a for-fun company for her to feel like she was larping.
And those are my words, to put it that way analytically.
But Lauren Conlin couldn't find government contracts.
tracks we thought that was what we were looking at last week again the case was just breaking when we
were recording but you know if there's something else there i'm happy to change my mind i just don't
see it there there's a the first link you have it up deep here so this is this is an example of
an amy escridge video where she's in a static panic claiming her hands were being targeted by a
direct energy weapon just one month before she was found dead from a gunshot wound to the head this
from right angle network on Twitter.
Let's play this.
My hands have been burned to hell and back as I've been typing.
Because you can beam me through there or through there.
And you can get a 3D image of what I'm typing.
Why are you sitting in that room?
Because this computer doesn't have a Wi-Fi card.
You can't hack it.
But you can maybe get a 3-D image of me typing.
So like we just did that and did that as an act of pure desperate.
And guess what?
I feel better immediately.
I feel better immediately.
Like my hands still burn because there's damage.
My hands still burn because there's damage.
But it's like my body relaxed when we barricaded the shit.
All right.
That's good.
I'm, to be clear, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to someone who has tragically died.
I have to look at this stuff.
and as balanced away as I can
and look at what facts we can see
and if they're leaning a certain way
I'm going to say that.
And so I personally think
hers is blown out of proportion.
Again, I'm happy to see new evidence brought forward
but I don't, I feel like she probably wasn't
having a lot of conversations with Hal put off,
which I think she was like alluding
to having had some engagement with him, you know.
And how put off might be an awful guy.
She might be right about that.
Like, she was over shooting her chops, if you will.
So again, that's not the best look on a case like this.
There's also the video of Rep Burleson.
You know, again, there are some huge stories that people won out of the media right now.
By people, I mean people in our government.
So when you have congressmen jumping all over this and making huge claims,
especially about someone like Amy Ascridge.
Yeah, your red alarm bell should be going off.
Here's Rep Berluson talking about, I believe he's talking directly about Amy Eskridge, if I remember correctly.
Look at these 11 scientists.
There's some outliers, certainly, but each one has a very mysterious and unique case.
I think Amy Eskridge, her case, is somewhat of an outlier, but it's worth investigating.
I mean, we had Michael Schellenberger come to our hearing back in 2024.
and in his testimony he provided information from a researcher, Frank Milburn,
who was a retired UK intelligence official, who Amy had reached out to and asked to investigate
some of the harassment, some of the weird things that were happening with her.
And he determined that she was the victim of a directed energy weapon and that she was likely
murdered by a U.S. Aerospace Company.
Okay.
He's also citing Michael Schellenberger, who basically,
went on Joe Rogan and made an ass of himself two months ago talking about Epstein and having
gone through the he wrote articles about it having gone through the Epstein files oh he had no
he wasn't an intel agent all this stuff it was you know people throw around that term
controlled opposition online it's impossible to not look at what he was saying and and think that
and I saw there was a good 11 10 11 minute clip I think 8 10 11 minute clip I saw
of Rogan and him going back and forth.
And, you know, Rogan's helped his career a ton.
He's had him on the show a bunch over the years.
And Rogan was getting, righteously so pissed off
because Schellenberger was just trying to shut him down,
cut him off and say there's nothing to see here.
Get away from it.
And when you look at the people,
Schellenberger's tied to,
Peter, too.
You know,
it's not great look.
So when you have the congressman citing him right out front,
immediately. Red flags are flying.
Immediately. Like, yeah. Okay. So they're going to blow up this one, but not Epstein.
Interesting. Interesting. I'll keep know that. Annie Jacobson, who's a phenomenal author,
who I'd love to have on the podcast someday. We've tried. Never been able to do it. But, you know,
she's written some incredible books, Operation Paperclip. In the past, she wrote the book about DARPA.
She wrote a book that I didn't read.
I believe it's about Roswell and some of the other weird things that aren't talked about with that.
And then she just wrote a book about nuclear war that she's been over the past year going on a lot of shows talking about.
But she said on Twitter, I think the missing scientist will become part of the coming White House UFO release,
the real intention of which is to divert from foreign affairs and the Epstein files.
and she cites an article that was in the Atlantic where it was talking about, you know, the case for this just being a giant distraction.
And you do have to throw that out there.
I've talked about the shiny object in the past being UFOs, Trump, very conveniently saying that a week before the Iran war.
And then McCaslin disappearing a week after he said that, you know, right before the Iran war.
That's where it certainly is sketchy at best.
and, you know, just a news media cover up at worst, I guess is how you would say it.
But there are a couple cases coming forward.
One that I'm not going to talk about today is the, I never remember how to pronounce his name,
the Levensberger case from New Year's Day 2025, with Sean Ryan had done a big podcast on right after that happened.
I still got to look more at that.
There's people trying to connect that, but there was a lot going on there that was like, I don't know.
Let me look at that more before I actually make some comments.
But there were two other scientists that were online thrown around as linked to this this week.
Let you guys decide where you think this stands.
One of them was this guy who was killed in his Tesla.
and this was a NASA nuclear scientist.
So he was found deceased in his Tesla after colliding with a guardrail.
I believe this was last year, leaving his body so burned that he was completely unrecognizable,
according to a new report from Fox News.
29-year-old Joshua LeBlanc, who worked on nuclear propulsion projects,
died in a fiery crash over the summer.
His family at the time said they feared he had been abducted when he left his phone and wallet at home.
It's another pattern we've seen there with some other people.
who have disappeared or died.
According to Tesla Century Mode data,
his vehicle sat at the Huntsville, Alabama airport
for four hours on the morning of his death.
Again, a lot of these people
have some weird connection to Huntsville
or Wright Patterson up in Ohio, I believe.
Just, I got to say that.
His car was later found that afternoon.
Authorities have now told Fox News
that the car collided with a guardrail
before slamming into trees, it then burst into flames.
His family said it was completely uncharacteristic for him to not communicate with them
and that it was not part of his plan to travel west that day.
LeBlanc had an impressive resume according to his lengthen profile.
He worked at NASA for over five years.
He was a team lead.
Listen to this.
For NASA's space, nuclear propulsion, instrumentation, and control maturation.
We talked about the five scientists in this report who are linked to J.P.L.
The Jet Propulsion Laboratory at NASA.
This is in a similar line of work, if you will.
LeBlanc then became a team lead for NASA's demonstration rocket for agile cis lunar operation,
codenamed Draco, a nuclear thermal propulsion engine, according to Fox.
This was a brilliant man and a serious guy, certainly dying under odd circumstances.
It is worth looking at.
This is not an Amy Eskridge.
This guy was inside the belly of a beast, if you will.
There was also a plane crash, I believe, on the 16th, 16th or 17th of April this month,
that involved, if you can go up just for one second, the...
James, Tony, he was known as Tony Moffat, and I believe, unfortunately, two of his sons.
They died in a M20 crash in South Carolina, and the cause remains under investigation.
We'll go down right here.
So a decorated veteran pilot aerospace engineer and defense researcher was killed in a plane crash in South Carolina, raising questions about whether the incident is related to the deaths and disappearances of 11 scientists tied to nuclear and space research.
I do want to add this is all from Fox News, which is certainly a, it's another Rupert Murdoch owned place that is very friendly to the current White House and has plenty of hosts on there that will apparently at all costs due to bidding a set of White House, even when they're in the wrong.
So take that with a grain of salt.
James Tony Moffat, 60 was flying with his wife.
Oh, his wife was on there too.
Wife, Lisa, 61 and sons Andrew 30 and William 28 when the plane crash in a wooded area near the runway at Union County Airport in South Carolina on Friday.
The family from Huntsville, Alabama, there it is again, was traveling from the Rally Durham area of North Carolina to Huntsville.
Officials said and it stopped in Union County to refuel.
The Union County Sheriff's Office said the crash occurred around 630.
the family was flying a Mooney M20 single-engine aircraft.
Let's go down. I want to get to some of his work.
Moffat is the latest scientists with ties to aerospace research and NASA to make headlines,
with the deaths and disappearance of 11 individuals with similar backgrounds,
which is misleading to say it that way, raising concerns.
His son, Andrew Moffat, was also an up-and-coming researcher at the time of his death.
30-year-old was a research engineer and scientist at the University of Alabama
in Huntsville's Research and Engineering Support Center.
The elder Moffat earned a master's degree, meaning the father,
who is known as Tony, earned a master's degree in aerospace engineering from Georgia Tech in 1988
and previously studied as an experimental test pilot in the U.S. Naval Test Pilot School,
according to his LinkedIn profile. Following his 21-year military career, Moffitt worked as a payload
and flight crew support specialist at NASA's Johnson Air, Johnson Space Center astronaut office
where he participated in 14 space shuttle ISS construction missions. Inside the Belly the Beast,
if you will. After retiring from the Army in 2008, Moffitt founded aerospace consulting firm Moffat Systems, Inc.
And later served as a principal research engineer at the University of Alabama and Huntsville's
Research Center. We don't know anything beyond this yet. Private planes do crash. That is usually
when you hear about a plane crash. It is usually a private one, unfortunately.
A convenient timing. I'll say that. But this is all we.
know right now it's just strange i have to admit that it's strange another huntsville nassar related guy
dying around the same time whole family goes down with him the son's also in some research
maybe about a little something learned something from the old man you never fucking know worth
talking about i'm just sitting here looking at like the ad on fox news's website like proud
American, click here for patriotic news and inspiring stories. And it's like, yeah, these stories are,
they're really inspiring lately. Really, really inspiring. Yeah, that's another thing.
You know, the Patriot is one of my favorite movies, Mel Gibson. Yeah. And Patriots such a great
word. If you study the Revolutionary War obsessively like I do, hint, hint, we're going to have
some good stuff coming on that, by the way. Let's leave that right there. But, you know, these guys were
amazing what they pulled off. And by the way, they were across the political spectrum in doing that,
as it would later be revealed when they were making the Constitution and arguing over it and
arguing in the years later about how to run the government. But like they were a brilliant
group of men and they were patriots. And I think all Americans who actually love the country
should be able to call themselves patriots. I just find it really sad that it just kind of got
co-opted to where like, you only say that if you're like a hardcore conservative
some and that's that's against america i think people on the far left and the far right
which to be clear it's not just people on the far right i don't want to be unfair there but people
on the far left and far right are by definition not patriots they can think they are but you know
it's extreme politics really don't represent that but people kind of across the spectrum with a
range of ideas should be able to say like i'm a patriot they actually love america and appreciate
living here like me i'm an extremely moderate person and i call myself that
But it's just strange that terminology has been co-opted politically, like a lot of other terminology, by the way.
We see this on the left and the right.
Different terms are associated with one or the other.
And it's really cringe.
And I hope like in this, you know, dangerous word that you use here, but like this reset button era that hopefully we have somewhat coming up here, we can get rid of shit like that and just talk again and be able to call yourself stuff without making a political statement.
It's like when you would go to Twitter.
And if you went to a bio and it had a Ukraine flag in it, you knew who they voted for.
If you went to a bio and it had an American flag in it, you knew who they voted for.
That's very weird.
Yeah.
It's very, very weird.
And in some cases, that's also because politicians lost their mind.
You know, we saw that with woke culture, and particularly for a lot of years on the left.
Like, of course, if you lose your mind like that, you're going to piss people off who aren't even on the other side, but then go to the other side.
I totally get that.
And that's how the pendulum in America works and why we all fight.
But another thing I did want to cover with the missing scientist story is another case that was tossed around into the middle of this that actually has some history on this podcast in the past that I want to address directly because I truly believe it is completely unrelated and is exactly what it was reported to be.
And that is the tragic suicide of David Wilcock.
So people jumped on this right away.
David Wilcock is a longtime UFO and paranormal researcher who was associated with Gaia TV.
Back in episode 287, I had my friend Darcy Weirin who did a documentary that we are going to link in the description below called Dark Alliance's, Dark Alliance covering Corey Good in particularly and David Wilcock, who at one point had a show together on Gaia and all of the bullshit that they spewed.
And I called Darcy before this just to like rehash it.
Episode 287 came out.
I want to say that was March 25th, 2024.
So it's been, or 2025.
So it's been over a year.
But he went through a lot of what was going on in that documentary.
And basically there were depositions for a lawsuit between, I believe it was Gaya and Corey Good in 2023 that were made.
public and Darcy was able to go through where Corey Good admits that the stuff that he and by
extension, David Wilcock and being associated with him and making some of the same claims,
the stuff that he was pushing like secret space programs, 20 and back, which is, that's a
whole fucking rabbit hole right there. These terms were actually fake. And the way he said it,
you would have loved this, Steve. Great does. In the,
deposition when they were when the lawyers were asking about it he said well that's that's my
my intellectual property to sell he was referring to it as intellectual property that he and they're like
so you created it yes i i created intellectual so it's not real and he was basically like real
what is real what is real you're i mean it's laughable and so david wilcox was an early who
I was just talking about Corey Good, his partner in crime, if you will, no pun intended there,
was an early UFO researcher in the space who blew up with Gaia TV and ancient aliens.
Eventually, the guy was known to have kind of lost his mind.
He left Corey Good behind.
He lost his money.
I believe he even ended up getting divorced.
He had made up all these secret space program claims along with Corey Good.
You could say some of them certainly emanated with Corey Good, but he retweeted them, if you will.
And, you know, this is also a guy who had made a lot of doomsday claims.
At one point, he always saw, Darcy talked about it.
He always sold fear like a lot of people do.
It's a very powerful thing to sell that gets people on your side where he would tell his followers, like the world was going to end in 2012.
Well, it was another one.
I think I wrote one down.
He had, he said in 2020, a great solar flash was going to wipe out and, and it was.
was going to wipe out the population, but his followers, if you ready for this, would ascend.
He was early on the clavicular train.
He was in the ascension type.
He was an ascension type.
I like that.
But obviously, that never happened.
And there were some other claims he may.
I don't remember, but they all involved, like, bad things happening to Earth that then
didn't come to fruition.
He also thought he was Edgar Casey reincarnated.
Like, he had some strange claims.
He has crashed out on his live streams that he does.
his family has come out.
Not, again, people will use their conspiratorial minds on this stuff and say, well, that's exactly
what they should say, but his family's come out and said this is tragic, asking for prayers
at the time, he did commit suicide, all that stuff.
We got to be so careful running with things like this.
It's tragic that a man has lost his life.
I have reverence for the depth of something like that.
you do have to report on how this guy made his business and lived his life though and
a lot of provable lies and some of this is also literally personal because beyond episode 287
when i did episode 266 but particularly 267 which were recorded the same day with my friend
james fox and then jason sands jason sands was a military UFO
whistleblower who had come out in James Fox's documentary, the program, which came out in December
2024, and made some insane claims about alien encounters out at Area 51. And I say insane,
not to be mean, but because, you know, they were beyond the pale. And long story short,
he ended up making, in the days after the documentary came out, he made claims,
that were like if he had made a claim that was a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10 he made claims that were now
100 that he hadn't set in the documentary that were totally disqualifying and made james look
really bad and james i go way back with him really good friend of mine brilliant documentary
filmmaker and the worst part was there were people behind the scenes i can't say because it's
i believe it's off record i always erred towards that but that had brought james jason sands
had pushed him onto James when they knew that Jason Sands respect to him. He's a very nice man
had some severe psychological trauma and PTSD. This was documented. I mean, shit, listen to the first
32 minutes, episode 267, hear about the guy's childhood. That gave me a lot of peace hearing that
because I saw what this man went through in his life. And I empathize with that because I don't
think Jason, I've said this before and people disagree, but I'm okay saying this. I don't think
Jason Sands is a liar. I think he genuinely believes the things that he says. And I told him that to
his face afterwards, you know, I really think he believes the things he says. But I bring this all up
to point out that when he first came out with some claims before the documentary was even released,
this is back in April 2024, Darcy Weir was making that documentary Dark Alliance. And at the time,
Darcy Weir was like the Leonardo DiCaprio meme
because he heard the claims Jason made
and they were literally like lifted
from things that have been said by Good and Wilcock on Gaia
including the 20 and back term
and other things involving space programs
I don't remember all the details
but nobody listened to Darcy
very few people listen to Darcy at the beginning
and then once more claims came out
and people were like wait a minute
then they saw that he was actually right on this
so when Darcy and I fast forward
did a podcast on it later after i'd talk with jason sans on camera after the documentary had come out
after jason had made all the new claims after all this shit you know it was about good and then also
willcock and so when you're saying like oh now they're off in a UFO researcher well who was this
guy what was his research i personally don't think the evidence points to his data
being anything of note or real.
And you can look at those depositions
if you need more proof of that.
Never say anything's 100%,
but color me extremely skeptical
of there being any tie
or anything different
than what has been reported
to this case.
David Wilcock
was not in the best place mentally.
Obviously he had said in the past,
I would never kill myself and stuff like that.
And, you know,
You've heard me say that on air and stuff.
But you also have to look at the context of how people talk about other things
and things going on in their life and, you know, losing their mind sometimes publicly.
And it just kind of is what it is.
But I want to make sure, you know, again, Darcy Weir has been on that story for a long time.
And Darcy has been incredibly respectful since David Wilcox's untimely passing.
Obviously, this is a human being who lost their life.
And, you know, that should be highlighted for sure.
Did I miss anything on that thief?
No, RIP.
Yeah.
RIP.
I just saw this, though, not to bring you back in, but this developed 10 minutes ago while we were rolling.
And it looks like RAI, that Italian report, is going to be dropping some stuff on Sunday in pertinence to our boy, Paolo.
R-A-I has, this is from Kazoo-Katherine.
Ten minutes ago.
Yo, Kazu-Katherine.
Yo, I was going to say that, dude.
Grindr. Grindr.
Shout-out, she calls herself Katie on Twitter.
R-A-I has exclusive audio of Powell's and Polly,
where he reveals the existence of a deal struck between him and Melania
before 2016 presidential election.
They planned to release the audio on Sunday as part of their investigative report.
Before you play this, Steve, I think I forgot to say this at the beginning in our list of
claims. The other claim that we looked at and speculated on based on reports from various
publications that were contradictory to each other, by the way, which we made very clear,
there were reports that Palo Zampoli was the original person to introduce Melania to Donald
Trump. And as we also like concluded, if you will, we don't know if that's true. The evidence
points to that maybe certainly being the case.
But like, again, that stuff that's in the public domain that's been reported on long before
any of this Epstein file stuff came out.
And it's certainly pertinent to the story and pertinent to the fact that the current
first lady of the United States, Melania Trump, is coming out and directly addressing this
case publicly.
So again, you know, your honor, if you're watching this, we're doing our homework here,
I promise you.
Doing our best.
All right.
Let's play this video, D.
These declarations of Amanda Ungaro
They've been
There's no
You know, it's been years
since I spoke Italian
Despite the one line come back earlier
I'm making mine dude
I know, you're getting it
120 days in a row
You've been practicing
I've been practicing
I see that
I see that
But I did want to go a little bit more
Into to come back to it
To McCaslin
Oh yeah yeah
Because we had talked about him with Lauren and we had started to touch on it last week.
But let's start with the 911 call that his wife, General McCaslin's wife made on, I believe it was February 27th, 2026 when he did not come home.
And this, by the way, this is from my buddy Jesse Weber.
He pulled this.
This is where the actual video we're getting it from, which it was in the public domain, but from his show Sidebar on Law and Crime.
Jesse Weber's been on my show a couple times for episode 294 and I want to say it was
319 or 320 that was a hazy time for me but awesome awesome dude he also was someone who
connected me with Lauren to get on the show the other day and it's connected me with other
people in the past as well including Tom Smith but if you haven't checked out Jesse stuff
he's the man he covers any major public legal case that's going on he's on he's on
that shit and is he is a lawyer by trade and also like an actor by trade so he's a fucking
awesome talker but anyway here's the 911 call once again that mccaslin's wife made after
his disappearance this is april how may i help you hi april my name is susan wilkerson um my husband is missing
okay and he's it's been about three hours and i have some indication that he must be
of plans not to be found. He's left his phone. He changed his clothes into, I don't know what.
I think he's on foot. All of our cars and bicycles are in the garage. I left for a doctor's
appointment at about 1110, and he was here at that time, at the house. And I got back from that
at noon, and he was gone. He turned it off and left it behind, which seems kind of deliberate,
it because he's always got his phone.
He has a smart watch.
I don't know if that's with him or not.
Has he ever done this before?
Never.
Nothing even remotely like it.
He's a retired Air Force Major General.
He's very responsible.
But he's also facing some medical issues.
Do you have any video at your home?
No.
Has he been diagnosed with any mental disorders or anything like that?
Well, we've been seeing a dock for both physical and mental in terms of anxiety, short-term memory loss, lack of sleep.
The same dock I went to see today.
Does he carry any weapons on him?
Well, not generally.
He does have a gun safe, and I went to look in the gun safe to see if anything was missing, but I couldn't tell if anything was.
He has quite a number of.
of pistols and rifles, other than saying if his brain and body keeps deteriorating, he didn't want to
live like that.
But it seemed to me that was just a man, I hate how this is going kind of thing because I told him,
yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
Okay.
We're going to send some deputies up to talk to you these concerns.
So it's definitely worth noting that there's been at least some question around him related
to anxiety, lack of sleep.
and most notably short-term memory loss.
That, again, you got to,
if when we get information like that,
we've got to be balanced and share that,
regardless of how treacherous it looks
that he is in fact gone.
I will say the fact that he deliberately
left everything else behind
except a pistol is strange
because she also made clear on the call.
He never, I think she just said that right there,
correct me from all.
He never does that.
He never doesn't take that.
And it was later, I believe, revealed, correct me in the comments, if I'm remembering this incorrectly, that he did in fact leave his Apple Watch behind and did not take that with him.
Yep.
So, all right, that is right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she said he always takes it with him.
That, that part is strange.
Now, this is a guy who, and Lauren talked about this.
he was in the pedesta emails that were leaked by WikiLeaks back in 2016
where Tom DeLong, the former frontman for Blink 182,
emails Podesta and says the following.
I've been working with him referring to McCaslin for four months.
I just got done giving him a four-hour presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago.
Trust me, I believe that's referring to the stars.
Academy. Trust me, the advice has already been happening on how to do all this. He just has to say that
out loud, but he is very, very aware as he was in charge of all this stuff. When Roswell crashed,
they shipped it to the laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. General McCasum was in charge of
that exact laboratory up to a couple years ago. He not only knows what I'm trying to achieve,
he helped assemble my advisory team. He's a very important man. I do also want to note, and I might
have said this last week, but I just want to make sure I hit this again, or I might have said this
would learn. To the Stars Academy is filled with a lot of guys from the spooky side of the government.
All right. These are guys like Jim Semivan, longtime CIA dude. You know, I'm forgetting some of the other.
I want to say how put off was on it. It's been a while since I looked at it. But basically,
when you look at the resume of the guys who like started this with Tom DeLong, which is like hilarious at
the start with Blink 182 guy. But yeah, that's so crazy. They're all attached deep in into the intel.
community, which certainly should be taken with a grain of salt. And a guy like McCaslin is
certainly not separate from that. He has being in charge of places like Wright Patterson, being in
charge of the, I forget the term for it, but like the Air Force Armory Station or whatever out in Segundo,
you know, some of the other places that he was overseeing, like when he was overseeing
projects related to JPL at NASA, like, or at least protecting the intelligence of that, I should
say.
Forrest Gump of the last 40 years of places involving weird shit potentially happening.
And that has to be said.
So I did say there's there's an article in there about the seven Chinese or whatever
it is missing scientists.
That was another thing I wanted to hit.
You know, when you see guys like McCaslin disappear, when you see potentially these Chinese
scientists disappear. It's not like
even if McCaslin
isn't as spry as he was when he was
35, the guy knows where
a lot of bodies are buried, unless he
can't remember fucking anything.
He's a very targetable guy.
Monica Reza, who
at one point,
at least one point, I think it was actually
two points. They overlapped.
McCaslin and her... This was a serious
physicist. She disappeared as well
out there who oversaw
a lot of
projects that have certainly a lot of intel and maybe some things that you don't talk about it,
definitely some things, you don't talk about it at dinner parties. But this article from also from
the Daily Mail, Chinese military scientists have been dying mysteriously as 11 nuclear and
space experts die or go missing. At least nine scientists have mysteriously died in China.
As speculation grows over the deaths and disappearances of 11 American scientists,
in many of the Chinese cases, the causes of death are recorded as accidents, sickness,
or unexplained incidents.
And while these explanations appear straightforward individually taken together, they are drawing
increased scrutiny.
One of the most puzzling cases is that of Feng Yanghi, a 38-year-old defense technology
professor who died in July 2023.
He had reportedly been working on simulations related to a potential Taiwan invasion before
his death in a late-night car crash in Beijing Newsweek reports.
Official accounts state that Fang had been leaving a work meeting when the crash occurred around
235, but speculation grew after his obituary described the scientists of having been sacrificed
while performing official duties, wording that some observers found unusual for what was described
as a traffic accident. Further attention was drawn by his burial in a high-profile cemetery,
typically reserved for national figures such honors are rarely associated with standard accident
cases. I also do want to add China as a country where even their billionaires like Jack Ma,
if they say something wrong with the government or do something wrong by in these scenes with the
government, they disappear because the CCP does have full control. Let's keep going. There was another
scientist as well that they were really highlighting here. Go down to the thief. I want to read it.
Many of reports point to at least nine similar deaths of Chinese scientists in recent years. Many of them
were working on highly sensitive fields, including military artificial intelligence, space defense,
and hypersonic weapons, all stuff that other countries are going to be very interested in.
Among them was Zhang Zhaojin, a space expert who died in a reported car accident, also a car accident.
in December 2024, Chen Shirming, a specialist in microelectronics, also died in a similar incident
in 2018, so this is really making a bigger timeline, which should be noted. The bigger the timeline
to higher the probability of coincidence. That is true because there's a lot of scientists and a lot of
scientists working on a lot of important stuff and we're talking about guys who are all,
I'll say, allegedly dead. They're not disappeared so far. Chemist Zhao Zhang Wei passed away in December
2023 with no official cause death. Disclose, other cases included Yan Hong, who died after an
illness, and Fang Danning, who died following what was described as an unexpected medical episode
abroad. They both worked in the field of hypersonics. Meanwhile, drone expert Zhang Dibing,
data scientist, Liu Dong Ho, also died under circumstances that remain unclear.
It sounds pretty straightforward and clear cut, if you ask me. At first look, me too.
At first, look, me too, it's weird.
It's weird.
Nothing like an unexpected medical episode of broad, you know.
You know, Kim Jong-un brings on a lot of unexpected medical episodes.
You know, they find a way to, they hit you with something.
He's also like the greatest golfer ever, whoever lived.
Right.
I think he shot like a 40.
He should shot a big perfect score, I think.
Yeah.
That's impressive.
He's very impressive.
That's impressive.
He's got a man of many talents, apparently.
A hug from the Supreme Leader would fix everything.
I guess so.
I know it would.
Yeah.
I'm going to look at this some.
It's weird.
We'll talk about it.
We're talking about it.
But don't lose focus of what's up front.
One last thing to close.
That Wall Street Journal wrap up.
Trump, WSJ report.
You see that down there?
Yeah, we pull this up.
So I mentioned this at the beginning.
I wanted to hit this.
This is a summary from Mario Nafal.
I'll read this and give a few thoughts.
The Wall Street Journal just dropped the bombshell report on the inside story of the Iran War,
the key revelations Trump used to call the Middle East blood and sand and wanted nothing to do with it.
Then Netanyahu gave him a persuasive February briefing in the situation room backed by repeated calls from Lady Lindsay Graham and Trump changed his mind.
He thought it would be as easy as Venezuela, which is in line with what a couple sources of mine said before he did it.
Trump was in all of the scale of the bombs watching clips of explosions every morning, but he did little to sell the American public or
the war and grew frustrated when he didn't get praised for it. His own team showed his midterm
polling that proved the war was dragging down Republican candidates. Who could have guessed that?
He quickly began ruminating on how the military action could turn into a catastrophe. On the
straight, Trump told his team before the war that Iran would likely capitulate before closing
the strait. His advisors were caught off guard. The tanker traffic stopped so quickly.
Trump later marveled at the ease with which the strait was closed, saying a guy with a drone
can shut it down. How about that? By late March, before the F-15,
team was even shot down. Trump ordered his team to find a way to start talks. The war was already
over in his mind weeks before the ceasefire. His aides begged him to stop doing impromptu interviews
because he was contradicting himself publicly. He agreed to stop, then went right back to calling
reporters. The April 1st address to the nation was Susie Wiles' idea to reassure the country
Trump had a plan. Trump didn't want to do it because in his own words, he couldn't declare
victory and didn't know where he's going. The report paints a picture of a president who was
talked into a war by Netanyahu and Graham,
realized it was a mistake within weeks,
spent the rest of the conflict looking for the exit,
and was frustrated that nobody would give him credit along the way.
The war was an impulse,
sold by an ally with different objectives,
enabled by advisors who couldn't say no,
and sustained by a president who was too proud to admit the mistake
until the economy forces him.
Again, if he gets up and leaves this war,
accepts the chips that have been stupidly put on the table,
as gone but doesn't try to throw good money after bad i will appreciate something over nothing
if you will but when we are looking at the economic ramifications of this and the potential
questions of like oh my god is the petro dollar going to be the petrol yuan now because all the
problems with the strait as bad as iran is we didn't have the issues with like the straight
or move fucking closing on and off, if you will, until we did this.
And this is what I've talked about with the third, fourth, fifth, and tenth order effects.
We have created problems where they didn't previously exist because we decided to play world
police and the moral superiority police. And unfortunately, the world does not work that way.
I don't like when there's tyrannical governments to kill their own people and harm other people.
I hate it.
said that a million times
to him blue in the face.
I have no love for the Iranian regime.
But like,
we have pissed on a hornet's nest
because unfortunately
in a country in 93 million people,
we have now more entrenched,
arguably,
that government.
And this is not,
you're trying to go on their land,
on their home turf,
which is very, very geographically protected,
I might add.
Not a good,
strategy. I hope this ends.
I did appreciate Trump saying that no one should be able to use a nuclear weapon.
And he said directly, like, I'm not planning on using a nuclear weapon on a run.
That was a great take. I appreciate that. It took long enough. But listen, I'm calling
balls and strikes around here. I will appreciate it if the president ends the war and tries
to mend some economic offenses, not the least of which is our Gulf allies who have been the
most affected by this.
as collateral damage, I would say.
And who should have been consulted a lot more.
I know there's a lot of reports about MBS telling from Saudi Arabia telling Trump to do this.
That's a separate issue.
All those Gulf states surrounding Iran whose security is directly impacted by this, you know, not a good look diplomatically.
Diplomacy-wise, if you are.
But that's what I got for this week.
I told you I was struggling today, Dief.
I hope that went okay.
I don't think you struggled, pal.
I think we just saved the world again.
That's what we try to do.
We saved the world here in Hoboken.
But thank you to all of you as always who are subscribed.
If you have not subscribed, please subscribe.
We are doing these episodes once a week,
and we are also putting out two to three full three-hour guest episodes each week.
I got some more heat coming for you with Dr. Julia Mossbridge,
and then I'm still deciding who's coming next this week.
But thank you, everybody.
Give it a thought.
Get back to me.
Peace.
Thank you.
