Julian Dorey Podcast - #423 - Trump Global Elites in China, MKUltra Raid, Massie DARK Overlords | Julian Dorey

Starting point is 00:00:01 What's up everybody and welcome back to another episode of the Julian Dory podcast. I am Julian Dory. And I'm Joey Diff. How you done? How you done? Dave, the Rockefellers are officially controlling ourselves, or is that what you're telling me? That is something of that story. That's what the Daily Mail is saying.

Starting point is 00:00:19 I don't know. And Daily Mail wrote a lot of words about that, too. I feel like they've actually just been pumping them out recently. Something's going on over there. What I will say is that they had to keep on, like, hedging. We're going to talk about that. today, but they had to keep on hedging in that article to basically say, this sounds like the worst thing you've ever heard, but by the way, there's no evidence

Starting point is 00:00:38 to show it actually is. And the Rockefellers are very, very trustworthy. We always have to remember that. Obviously, our overlords, they want nothing but the best for us. As you well know, we document that on this show all the time. There's no bad intentions. Oh, yeah, that's just, that's just biz as always. It's just biz as always.

Starting point is 00:00:55 But we just outlined all the links for today. We got some good shit coming for you. I think what we really should start off with, though, is this kind of weird story. That's really the only way I could describe it that occurred this week that turned into a he said, she said, Congresswoman said, D&I said, they said, someone said and someone else said, which was the alleged, and I'm putting this in air quotes, raid that the CIA conducted upon D&I Tulsi Gabbard's office. So, Dief, if I understood this correctly, somebody went and testified before Congress, I don't know. remember if it was behind closed doors or publicly, whatever it was, it was a CIA whistleblower, that's how it's described, where they say that 40 boxes were removed in what seemed to be like a raid-like setting, if you will, from Gabbards, 40 boxes. 40 boxes, 40 boxes, as we would say,

Starting point is 00:01:50 New Jersey, from Gabby's or Gabbard's office. Yeah. And these boxes were essentially files that were being prepared for declassification as it pertains to the JFK assassination, which we just put out an episode with Stu Wexler today, number 422. So it'll be yesterday when you're listening to this one. And also MK. Ultra, is that right? That is correct. Yep. Okay.

Starting point is 00:02:16 So then the timeline immediately shifts to Anna Polina Luna, who's Congress lady who's always commenting on this stuff going on TV. And did she describe it as a raid? Well, she went on to be like, yeah, well, I'm calling for this to be returned. If this was a raid and they took this, we're calling for this to be returned, which logically speaking, that makes plenty of sense. Sure. Yeah. Hey, guys.

Starting point is 00:02:44 If you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge huge help. Thank you. But did she actually use the word raid? Because then there was a report that came out that said, no, that this a little. alleged event, which they weren't calling it a raid, occurred, you know, the CIA's got to cover their tracks here, obviously. They got to have a good PR campaign and say they only have our best interest in mind and they would never, ever not be transparent with the American people, as we

Starting point is 00:03:12 well know. But they're coming in and saying it actually occurred a year ago. Did we ever get that figured out that that definitely is the case or not? Well, here's, this is her replying to the original headline right here. And so she doesn't use the word Raid. Got it. Because then later, when they tried to say that she said that, basically, without having to get into it and have her defend it, Anna Polina Luna, as I understand it, did not use the word raid. She just said these boxes were removed. And now it's just being said after, I believe, like, Fox News reported this raid had occurred. I think that's the word they used recently or this week. It was actually a year ago. That appears to be what it is. Can you go back to that tweet? You just had a deep just so I can see it. So it says, this is from

Starting point is 00:03:57 Napalina Luna, the CIA has 24 hours to return the documents to Tulsi Gabbard's office or else I will make a motion to issue a subpoena. These documents have been requested by Congress. And then she tagged D&I Gabbard and the CIA director. And again, Tulsi Gabbard as DNI on the pie chart of stuff is supposed to be the organizer of all intelligence agencies, meaning like when it comes to her organizing the job, the director of CIA is reporting to her in that. that context. So in a perfect world of how this is set up, Joseph D. Philippus, sure. She's supposed to have control over what they classify. Yeah, you know, you can argue her hands have been tied a little bit. I think her hands have been tied. She's been blindfolded and told to walk the plank and she's still walking. What was that Sandra Bullock movie where

Starting point is 00:04:49 she's like blind as a fucking bat? Oh, I don't remember. Like bird cage or some shit like that? No, that's, isn't that the Robert, Robin Williams? Yeah. Yeah, that was the one where Robin Williams was gay. What was the... It's going to kill me. It's the one where she's like on the boat like this. It was a meme. Oh, Birdbox.

Starting point is 00:05:09 Bird box. I knew it was... I remember that movie. It was very, very close. But anyway, she... Tulsi Gabbard has completely had her balls cut out in this job. Yeah. And, you know, I commented on this maybe like six, seven of these episodes ago.

Starting point is 00:05:26 She's in a tough spot. like she's kind of in a lose-lose. If she doesn't resign, she's basically just admitting that she's taking this public, you know, berating of all, everything she was supposed to stand for coming into this organization

Starting point is 00:05:41 while we get into another fucking war in Iran. We'll talk about that more later and all this shit. And she looks like a coward to a lot of people. If she does resign, they'll also call her a coward from getting out, you know, and not trying to fight her way back within the administration. At the

Starting point is 00:05:57 time it's like who the fuck is able to ever fight back once their balls are cut off in an administration if you're not literally the president like we see it again and again yeah the only way out for her is she would have to start a podcast yeah start a podcast yeah change the narrative exactly you know that's her only way out turn it back around but she went all in on it too yeah you know she flipped all the way and it's like you know and it's it's been opposite day in there but there's a article right there, I put what happened, thief, and it has like a little bit of a roundup here so that we can we can officially react to this. But this also includes some of the optics around like who was claiming this and the CIA trying to cover up like the claimant and and paint them

Starting point is 00:06:46 away. But this is from Newsweek. It says a spokesperson for the director of national intelligence is denying claims that the CIA rated DNI director Tulsi Gabbard's office to seize dozens of boxes containing files related to the MK Ultra program, an assassination of President John F. Kennedy. And again, Joey Deef, MK. Ultra is definitely still not happening. Yeah, no, that's shut down. We can never do anything like this. There's no such thing as like...

Starting point is 00:07:09 Yellow Tapes Up. That's right. CIA would never try to control people's minds, conduct any type of chemical experiments on anyone against their will, unknowing. Obviously, this is a righteous American Constitution-first organization. I don't think anyone would. argue that, right? No, I mean, it was an experiment. They tried it out and it's done. Yes, and, you know,

Starting point is 00:07:33 we'll forgive the sins and know that they're never going to commit them ever, ever again. Precisely. Anyway, Olivia Coleman, press secretary for the Office of Director of National Intelligence, which is Tulsi's office. Reference to since-delated post by Fox News host Jesse Waters on X late Wednesday regarding the alleged raid, saying this is false. The CIA did not raid the DNI's office. Let's keep going. About an hour earlier, Annapolina, Luna got into the fray and then she said, also this did not happen today and was not a raid. However, it did take place and we are just being made aware of it based on reporting. It was also later reported side note that Luna and someone else was actually taking a trip to Langley

Starting point is 00:08:13 into the belly of the beast to discuss this and try to get any files. And again, you know, Luna's a nice looker. I'll say that for sure. But like she's always at the middle of all these like, X-y kind of like, ooh, let's give you guys something, whether it be the UFO files or whatever, that it's like a little suss to me because it feels like a bit of a limited hangout for people out there that don't know what that means. It's like when, I'm going to overgeneralize this, but it's like when they give you a piece

Starting point is 00:08:44 of information, so you go, ooh, look at this, this is amazing. And maybe some of it's also like kind of true. But it's really just like the part of the iceberg you see above the water and they're distracting you from the fucking 99% of it that's below to water. Yeah. I'm also wondering what's with this trend of us getting news like a year or two after it happened? UFO science has died two years ago. Ah, that's a great point. Oh, the DNI got raided. Oh, that was last year. What's that all about? Well, it's almost like... Just an observation. Yeah, it's just an observation, pure spec on that. Just pure spec. You know, it's almost like they started a war.

Starting point is 00:09:25 war that was supposed to be four weeks and is now 12 weeks in and we're negotiating with China to try to stop that more on that later. That's not going too well either. And it's almost like before that there was a giant massive global pedophile ring. Oh yeah. I forgot about that. I know. It's unbelievable. I think we're going to talk about that later too because we never talked about that before obviously. But you know, it's it's almost like they just got to change the narrative. Yeah. That time is a flat circle. They're doing the flatter end of the circle where the circle's not flat. Yeah, definitely. I don't know what I just said, but it sounded good. It sounded good. It sounded good. You cooked. This episode is brought to you by FedEx. These days,

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Starting point is 00:10:50 It's the same combo you love, just with more ways to enjoy it. So, whether you're snacking, sharing, or just treating yourself, nothing else. is Reese's. All right, let's go back to the article just to get the details. Can you actually skip down? There's a section down below. This will clear it up. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. A little more. Not the, you know what? I think I was thinking of another one. But we'll go to the second section right there. So right here. Yeah. So that's where Luna says it didn't happen today. She said it was troubling because an executive order from Donald Trump directed the declassification of all files related JFK and MK Ultra, the CIA's Cold War era

Starting point is 00:11:38 mind control experiment. And here's the other problem with this. We repeatedly see, whether it be the Congress president or a mix thereof, make a law about declassification of something, whether it be Epstein, UFO files, JFK, whatever. They make a law, meaning like, We have laws, Joe. We can't walk into the store down the street and fucking steal candy bars or we get arrested. It's very very simple. I'll have a due date as well. Right, exactly. These laws say you must release X by date Y. Yeah. Date Y comes and go. They don't release X. You're 100, 140 days later, two years later, five years later, 10 years later, no one does nothing. There's no police going in and saying, sir, you're under arrest for violating code, whatever. whatever, whatever of Congress. And also there's, usually with these codes deep, when Congress passes a law, a lot of that shit's like a felony.

Starting point is 00:12:37 Yeah. When you break it. A lot of felons run on. A lot of felons running around, just stacking them up. And that's right. So, Luna shared a letter addressed to CIA director, John Ratcliffe, asking him to preserve all existing in future records and materials relayed to the subjects.

Starting point is 00:12:54 She referenced testimony to Homeland Security and Government. These are allegedly those documents that apparently never existed, Luna told News Nation. She later clarified her remarks on X, writing that the CIA took documents that ODNI has jurisdiction over. And that's where she again said something about the raid. Was there anything in here we need to do? Oh, this was it. So, Luna's claims appear to originate from CIA whistleblower James Erdman, who said during a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing on Wednesday

Starting point is 00:13:24 that the agency had taken about 40 boxes related to. to JFK and MK Ultra. A CIA spokesperson, which, you know, of course, they're always gonna be right and tell the truth. Comment on the hearing on X, writing on Wednesday, the committee acted in bad faith by subpoenaing an agency offer for testimony today without notifying CIA, despite having already obtained

Starting point is 00:13:47 closed door testimony from the individual previously. The witness testifying today is not appearing as a whistleblower in pursuit of the truth, but instead in response to the subpoena issued by Chairman Paul. The proceeding amounts, this proceeding amounts to nothing more than dishonest political theater masquerading as a congressional hearing.

Starting point is 00:14:04 As the CIA has already assessed, COVID-19 most likely originated from a lab leak and efforts to undermine that conclusion are disingenuous. Yeah, there was stuff related to COVID in there. I'm not even getting touched that right now, but like, we know, obviously misinformation all over the place there.

Starting point is 00:14:19 But, you know, we just recorded the first of what's going to be three podcasts. We're recording over the next month. in honor of the 250th anniversary regarding the American Revolution, which is one of my favorite fucking topics to study. If you listen to my podcast, you know I discuss it or it comes up in various conversations all the time. Ironically, in the hundreds of topics we've covered on this podcast over the years, it's like the one thing we haven't, like big thing that we haven't done an episode on. So it's nice to do three. But like in it being that 250th and thinking a lot

Starting point is 00:14:56 about the history and where we're at and things we got to work on. Obviously, all history is imperfect and it's not like those guys. The revolutionaries got every single thing right. But what they pulled off was amazing and in particular the foresight they had in many facets of the Constitution to see what happens when, you know, the quote-unquote shrubbery grows out of control in the government and the bureaucracy and freedoms get trampled on is incredible. And it feels like every time we joke about, and that's what we're going to do, we're here to satirize and do comedy, but also like inform. But when we joke about stories like this and see this, he said, she said bullshit about things that amount to what's supposed to be transparency for the American people, you and me,

Starting point is 00:15:46 the people who are the government supposed to be afraid of and serve, right? when the transparency is trampled on and more importantly, when that trampling is happening related to things that are not only the government doing things in complete violation of the law and constitutional rights, but like some of the worst crimes ever known to man, whether it be killing a sitting president like JFK or, I don't know, running an international pedophile ring or even not stopping that from happening when you know about it. It's offensive. It's wrong.

Starting point is 00:16:24 And I think guys like fucking Ben Franklin and George Washington and these dudes who were just like, you know, fuck it. We're going to beat the best army in the world and, you know, try to create this great new country. I think they're fucking rolling over in their graves right now watching stuff like this. Without a doubt. Where do country go? Where are we going? I don't know. What was the thing disturbing docs there?

Starting point is 00:16:50 I think you put that there. I just want to hit that real quick. We talked about her going to see it. Oh, yeah. So it's funny because like now the Daily Mail and all these places, they'll openly write about the things the three years ago even, even the stuff that was verified like MK Ultra. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:08 That it's like, I, you know. We only talk about this a little bit. Yeah. You know? That's where I wonder sometimes, Joey Deef, where, you know, not to think into like 47. D-Chess here, but the fact that the mainstream even in some cases, not in all cases, we know there's some things they won't talk about that's really dumb and they should absolutely

Starting point is 00:17:35 be talking about. But the fact that like in the mainstream and the morphing between mainstream and independent and just where people's clicks and attentions are, the fact that discussing anything and everything that previously wasn't allowed to be discussed like out of nowhere, like almost zero to a hundred over the last three to five to seven years. Sometimes I wonder if that's also. Me too. You know what I mean? Like some sort of, I don't know, limited hangout, sciop, insert the word here.

Starting point is 00:18:07 Mass psychosis is what I usually associate it with. Explain that more. People can't discern reality anymore. And it's like all the stuff I've been, you know, hawking on about with Baldriard and hyper-reality, where I'm just like, yeah. Like, no one can discern what's reality anymore. So sometimes I wonder if all of this is just fuel for that. You have people that are just on their phone all day. Yep.

Starting point is 00:18:33 Monitoring the situation. And it'll just be like something as simple as the war and I ran. But then it's other people that are doing deep dives into stuff like this. And it just drives you nuts eventually. And that's the point. Yeah. Like, is this strategy like, let's pretend you were the president of the Bilderberg group, Joe Deef. And it's like 2015.

Starting point is 00:18:59 You're sitting in there with teal, a couple fucking aliens. Maybe Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones are running the security. I don't know. I don't know. I did. Could be. You know, you got some heads of state. You got like a few open rapers over here and shit, but they got a lot of money.

Starting point is 00:19:18 and they're allowed to be there. Maybe you have some members of Congress. You got some weird diplomats from countries that you never heard of, but they're apparently important and have been geographically located in a lot of suspicious places over the past couple decades.

Starting point is 00:19:34 You got all of them. Very diverse, right? Minus the elite factor. They're all elites, but very diverse group of people. And you're like, holy shit, the every man has access to this thing called the internet with ubiquitous information right now.

Starting point is 00:19:48 a lot true, some stuff even false, but like a lot of information, a lot of noise. And we're no longer in a position where we can fully stop these people from accessing all this stuff as hard as we may try. It's just going to strize and effect worse and worse as time goes on. So we're going to eventually going to have to give them access to all of it. But if we give them access to everything all at once, can we just create so much noise that it drowns out all the focus on on anything so that nothing actually happens and people are too separated into all their different silos that they can't come together and i don't know revolution around like one specific issue or two specific issues do you think that might be a strategy a builder

Starting point is 00:20:33 burger might have yeah it's a good way to neuter them that's what i do yeah neuters them real good just take the balls off the dog yeah they still bark they still bark they still bark but they're barking at the rain and they ain't biting. Boles are in a mason jar. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'd do. No reproduction. Population control. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:57 This feels like a late 2010 JZ line. Just like saying words, you know? Yeah, but... Oh, dude. But then it's like everything just like helping fuel that? Maybe. It's getting dark out here.

Starting point is 00:21:15 Yeah, what the hell? The sun did come up today, though. It was very nice out. No, yeah, it's gorgeous out. I'm enjoying life. Finally. We still got to cover this stuff, you know? So we make it fun and digestible as best we can.

Starting point is 00:21:27 You know, it's a balance. We strike it around here. Oh, dude, it's definitely a balance. That's the biz. We bounce on the beam, boy. But, yeah, I don't know. That story's weird. The claims are weird.

Starting point is 00:21:39 The timing's weird. Tulsi Gabbar being at the middle of it who appears to be completely powerless at that point is also very weird. And yeah, like, the continued protection of something that happened 60-some years ago were pretty much everyone there is dead. Is nuts. Now, here's the other question. And I have posed this before. It's you have to be fair, at least, and try to put up the devil's advocate point.

Starting point is 00:22:11 Even if everyone's dead from the compartmentalized power structure that may have. say order to hit on John F. Kennedy in 1963. Doesn't matter. Right. So what I'm saying is because they're labeled as a part of the government, say, let's just keep it simple. CIA and Pentagon. And, you know, maybe 15 guys total were really involved from those things and they got the

Starting point is 00:22:41 mafia involved, the Cubans, whatever. It is this stench of the entire organization of something that's so bad like, literally taking out the own leader of their government to the point that even 60 years later, the average person, righteously so, would be like, yeah, I think we got to get rid of these agencies completely overnight, rip the band-aid off. And now, like, the guys who are looking at releasing this are going, well, that's even worse than them sticking around. So they just do it from self-preservation. I could see why they make that argument, but I want to fucking know, bro. Yeah. Well, every generation of the organization,

Starting point is 00:23:20 is essentially like a new air of the empire. That's a good way to put it. So they can't. So sure, it might have happened 60 years ago, but like these people involved now while they might not have been involved then are involved.

Starting point is 00:23:33 So you can't. They're like trust fund babies. Yeah. That's a good way to put it. So with all these institutions, that's why nothing's changing. We're like this whole, everything we're talking about.

Starting point is 00:23:45 Epstein obviously was a lot more recent, but it can go, it goes all the way back. These crimes have been happening. And you know what? It's actually, you want to talk about generational passing down and things like that. There was a story a few weeks ago. We haven't talked about it yet.

Starting point is 00:24:04 But the son of a Norwegian couple heavily implicated in Jeffrey Epstein's world unalived himself. And this same son was granted $5 million personally from Jeffrey Epstein in his final will, which was a similar figure that he gave other important figures in his life, I believe, including Ghilin Maxwell. Now, to be clear, the kids, it would appear I haven't seen any evidence yet. Maybe someone in the comments, if there's something different, you can provide some more evidence than help me out. but it's not like the kids had anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein, but there had been inquiries into their parents. I'm going to read some details in a minute, righteously so, given their ties to Epstein over the years

Starting point is 00:24:55 and their closeness to power and many important things to happen in the world that was so seemingly upsetting to the kids who were even receiving money and have their life ready for them and financially set up that this kid unalived himself. So political error, 25, who was left 5 million in Jeffrey Epstein's will, kills himself just days after investigation into parents was launched. The son of two diplomats from Norway has died by suicide, admitted an investigation to his parents' connection to Jeffrey Epstein, according to reports. Edward Jule Rod Larson was found dead in Oslo on Wednesday just days after Norwegian and French police launched a joint investigation into his parents. Diplomat Turgi Rod Larson and Mona Jule, a former ambassador. I believe Terje came up in that Bill Gates story.

Starting point is 00:25:46 We did maybe like eight weeks ago, seven, eight weeks ago. Correct me if I'm wrong there, but this guy's in the files a lot. So police launched a probe into the high-profile figures after it was reported. The Epstein left a total of $10 million to Edward and his twin sister Emma in his will. It's total blood money, obviously. That is the same amount that he left Gilan Maxwell, according to Epstein's trust and documents released by the DOJ, Edward, and Emma Jewel, Larson were never accused of any wrongdoing. The couple's lawyers, Thomas Skelbred and John Christian Eldon, confirmed their son's untimely death. It stands in the shadow of the mouths of public spotlight,

Starting point is 00:26:23 has long since ceased to be critical and has instead become suspicious, speculative, and at times limitless, the legal team wrote to Norwegian outlet, a spotlight that is not only affected two parents, but has drawn their children involuntarily into the relentless machinery of the public. But also, like, listen, man, they're giving. Giving money from Epstein. Now it's just coming out. The parents are fucking implicated with the guy like, yeah, this is how it works. People are going to look into the story and they're going to want to know more.

Starting point is 00:26:53 And the public has a right to dig into that. So that's no one wants to see something like this happen to be very clear. But that's a bullshit cop out statement from the lawyers, which, you know, that's what they're paid to do. But let's continue this because it has a little more info down low. these were this guy was involved in the oslo accords so i want to get down to to where that was so edward and his sister were called the peace twins when they were born as their father rod larsson was the deputy secretary general of the u.n and their mother jule was the state secretary the norwegian ministry of foreign affairs at the time rod larsson and jule are known for their critical role in the oslo

Starting point is 00:27:31 accords theseraeli-Palestinian peace efforts roads all always lead back there in the nineteen nineties a political tale that was so inspiring that it became the influence for the Tony Award-winning Broadway show Oslo. Jewel, who recently served as Norway's ambassador to Jordan, resigned in February after facing scrutiny of her contact with Epstein. The country's foreign ministry launched investigation into Jewel's knowledge of and contact with Epstein. So again, it's on both sides, both parents, full contact, what are they doing? Somehow they keep finding their way into very important diplomatic roles that have international geopolitical implications. What else did you see, Dief? I just, this guy was involved with the International Peace Institute. Oh, that's awesome.

Starting point is 00:28:17 In New York, and that was right near my school in the Upper East Side. And I've, I've, like, went in there before and I was like, what the fuck is this place? That's terrific. It's like really nice, too. Yeah. Dude, that's crazy. Did they try to turn you in there? No, no. Like, I went in there because it looked like a museum or something like like the gougenheim and when you go in it's really nice and there's a lot of um there's a lot of stuff in different languages so i was just very confused by it and if i remember correctly there was like a ballet class or something going on you need a little ballet around there that's so weird yeah that is odd that is uh alessie so we had alessie alamon here this week who who has been with me for

Starting point is 00:29:06 and now works out of Florida with me and has his own YouTube channel, Alessie Alamon, just his name, go check it out. Really, really good documentaries on there. We also recorded a couple podcasts for his channel this week as well. They'll be coming out this week and next. But of course, fucking gets here on Sunday, rolls in at 11. And I was just hungover enough to say yes. But he was like, all right, let's go to Epstein's mansion.

Starting point is 00:29:32 I was like, all right, twist my own. Hadn't been there in a while. So we went there and, you know, peacefully using our First Amendment rights, standing across the street on a public sidewalk, paid tribute to Howard Lutnik. And obviously his place there, which is around, in his defense, 20 steps door to door, not 8 to 10. I'll give him. It's about 20 steps door to door from Epstein's place. But unless he fucking, I've never done. Did you guys actually do the steps?

Starting point is 00:30:03 I eyeballed the steps. That was, it was, I was like, look, and I was watching people walk by, and I was, like, counting the steps they would do. Because people just walk right by it, like right in front of the door. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's, New York. handed me a couple wireless mics, and he goes, all right, I'm in a video. We're going to grab some people and do men on the street, which I've never done before.

Starting point is 00:30:26 Very different. I enjoyed it. It was an interesting vibe, but, you know, unless you would walk up to someone and be like, hey, you know, we're in front of Epstein's mansion. Would you care answer a few questions for a YouTube video about this whole thing? A lot of people are like, I'd rather not. Most people were nice about it. And then some other people were like, all right, fuck it. And we got a little range of people, but there was one really like on it.

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Starting point is 00:32:05 picture, I'd be like ball knower. Yeah. He knows ball. Yeah. Just straight up. And this guy was like, oh, this guy knows ball. So, Alessi's asking him, come on. And he goes, to talk about what?

Starting point is 00:32:16 And Alessi's like, you know, I mean, obviously you take a bit. You know where he are. He's like, I don't know. Where are we? And he was like real mysterious about it. And we started cracking the fuck up. And his girl's like, do it, do it, do it. Get on camera.

Starting point is 00:32:27 So he's like, okay. And he sits there. And I'm like, I just watch you walk up and take a bunch of pictures in front of the house. I feel like you know where he are. Where are we right now? And he's like, I do not know. You tell me. He's like, real mysterious making me answer it. But I'm like, where are you from? He's like Montreal. I'm like, you ever been to New York? No, this is my first time. Like, is this your first stop? And he goes, yes. This motherfucker got off the plane and went straight to East 71st Street just to check this shit out. And then he knew it once we got through the behind the

Starting point is 00:32:59 curtain, if you will. Yeah. He knew it was up, bro. Wow. He knew it was up. So that was interesting to see the dynamic of like other people who are standing outside of this you know I'm not a big angels and demons kind of guy but like it's a pretty fucking demonic feeling place if you've ever been there well dude trips me out I was a few blocks away every day 2016 through 2019 like prime it's just it's just so wild to think about now that's like a derange key and peel skit even like when I was would be out at night, you know, on the weekend around there. It's just like, fuck. That's crazy. You had no idea. No idea. No idea.

Starting point is 00:33:41 Past. Oh, dude. You're just like going right past it. That's so wild. It's just like an international trafficking ring. Yeah. It's fucked up. Literally. Like six blocks from where I'd be hanging out. Yeah. Yeah, there were there were a lot of people though that like it's always wild to watch people walk by who have no idea. Oh yeah. But then you see the other people who they're like, oh, there it is. There was one guy. We didn't stop him. Like he was walking by with his wife and it was like the ultimate ball knower moment because he like walks right behind us. We were like moving the backpacks and he has on glasses and he like takes some strides the house is like right here. And then he like takes his sunglasses stops turns goes at Epstein's house and just keeps walking and we're like,

Starting point is 00:34:28 All right. Respect. You know what's up. But I don't know. Lesse is probably going to put that out on his channel. We'll probably react to it here. But cool. It's insane that that place was not raised to the ground. Yeah, well, it's like, yeah. I mean, I feel like that's, that's New York in a nutshell.

Starting point is 00:34:49 So many, I mean, not to that extent, but there's a lot of places that are like that. I've said for, I've said for a long time. And it's, I don't know how to say this right. I don't know if you want to say it's like one of your most favorite parts about New York, but it's definitely one of the most interesting parts about New York. Yeah. You look at, we don't have camera five on right now, but I have the wall. We do?

Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah. All right. So you look at a wallpaper here. On every street that you walk into on New York in New York, in New York City, you can stand there without having gone to Google yet and guarantee as sure as there's a hole on the back of your ass that something great and something terrible happened on that street. Oh, yeah. And the range is extremely wide in some streets and, you know, just really wide on other streets.

Starting point is 00:35:40 But that's what's so insane about the culture in New York. And it just kind of, when you're standing on East 71st Street, it hits home in an extra way because you're like you can't even imagine the atrocity of that. And that it's just a regular Upper Eastside street. Yeah. You got to watch Mr. Robot. I know. You keep telling me that.

Starting point is 00:36:02 You capture that vibe because it's just like the nice little townhouse that has the two escalades pull up. And you're like, all right, that's shit. But it's like the most sinister shit's about to go down. Yeah. You know? Yeah, I got a lessee and I were watching a limited series called 1122, 1962, 1963. Oh, yeah, with James Franco. This week while he's here.

Starting point is 00:36:27 Stephen King book. Yes. You've seen that? Yeah, it's great. It's actually phenomenal. Yeah. I heard the book's wonderful. It's such a shame James Franco was, you know, doing the whole.

Starting point is 00:36:35 Ah, he blew it, dude. Bang. Yeah, the students, yeah, come on, James Franco. It was so good, but you can't do that. You can't do that. So, you know, he's not wrong anymore. But he was really good before that. So, series is great.

Starting point is 00:36:51 Anyway, series is great. I will give that. But the concept is there's a time portal, and James Franco can travel back to the same day in 1960, and then if he blends into that world enough, can try to stop the assassination of John F. Kennedy. And I'm not going to give it away what happens. I think people should go watch it.

Starting point is 00:37:17 It's a real mind fuck. I think the physicist would be a little pissed about some of the time science, but that's neither here nor there. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. He was shit-faced when he wrote that. He was shitfaced when he wrote it. He's not a physicist. It's a story.

Starting point is 00:37:29 It's not real. You don't let the truth get in the way for that. But it does make you think. Because people always talk about like the, oh, would you go back and make sure a baby Hitler just didn't make it? Or Hitler got into fucking art school. That's an easier one. But like, you know, would you, if you go back in time and stop this stuff, you don't know what happens after. The reason I'm saying that, though, is because if society.

Starting point is 00:37:55 is allowed to screw up this moment here and not make some sort of significant change post Epstein or change the elite structure or scare them in some way, then we have completely wasted the atrocities that have now already happened that we can't change. You know what I mean? And you like, obviously can't be like the show and change the past, but you better fucking maximize what you do to try to prevent that stuff in the future. future and it does feel like we're being stopped from doing that unfortunately because you don't see anyone in prison you don't see anyone being pulled up for charges you see the same families

Starting point is 00:38:34 probably fucking pulling the strings and running things around the world as they were doing fucking a year ago 10 years ago 100 years ago whatever and that part cynically makes me really fucking sad yeah i mean rick said it earlier you know we don't learn the lessons from history yeah we had a one of the revolution guys that's it not to be that to be that to be that guy. But you know, you gotta, you gotta be that guy sometimes. Yeah. But I also had up there, we'd save this one. We were going to do this a couple weeks ago and didn't go there. There were more allegations coming out of Zorro Ranch, which, you know, when Epstein was arrested in 2019, that was like the one property they didn't raid right away. It was also one that quietly

Starting point is 00:39:18 got sold. And until recently, when there was public scrutiny, they weren't trying to dig up the grounds around there to find bodies, which by the way, we don't hear much about that investigation. That's neither here nor there. Yeah, sure. But Zorro Ranch is out in a remote location in New Mexico. It's a place where Epstein entertained a lot of high-level people. And it was, there have been all kinds of reports over the years. We had these reports even summer 2019 when he got arrested that this was a place that

Starting point is 00:39:51 Epstein considered a potential breeding ground for his eugenics plan or belief system using AI gods to create perfect DNA where he also thought his DNA was like special, which obviously was total bullshit. But, you know, Chris Hansen was in here and talked about a victim waking up in Zorro Ranch on an operating table and having guesses about what happened. there but not sure. We also have diary entries from alleged victims discussing about, you know, babies being born there. Like, we don't have the full fire to see, but the amount of smoke we have is insane. And when you go through the Epstein files and see all the scientists that Jeffrey Epstein consistently discussed DNA supremacy, eugenics-related topics with seating the master race,

Starting point is 00:40:50 and stuff like this with, it's impossible to not think that this was a major priority in his life. Yeah, for sure. And the fact that none of these investigations are being followed through with all that, it's another one that it'll just be swept under the road. Don't worry, Don Haphina is turning it into a Christian retreat. So we're gonna, as we said, several episodes ago,

Starting point is 00:41:15 we're gonna wash it away with the Lord. That's what they deal. You know, that's what they do. But this is a report from the New York Post from April 27, 2026. Apologies for just getting to this now. We have had this on the list for the last like two or three weeks and just haven't gotten there. But multiple young men were allegedly drugged, R-worded, at Epstein's Zorro Ranch, where super predators roam, according to a report.

Starting point is 00:41:44 So according to exclusive new report that detailed harrowing accusations from murder to baby snatched, from mothers at the Petos' New Mexico House of Horrors. A man actually claims that he met Jeffrey Epstein and was brought to the ranch. He was drugged. U.S. rep Melanie Stansbury told 60 Minutes Australia in a Sunday segment the Sun reported. He describes in detail a scene in which multiple young men were R worded at the ranch in front of him after he was drugged. Let's keep going. Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislennem Maxwell were serial abusers.

Starting point is 00:42:17 They really were super predators. and it was just how they lived their lives. It's unclear how Stansberry learned the excruciating details of the alleged abuse, but her claims come as her state is in the thick of an extensive investigation into the Zorro Ranch, which again, we're not hearing much transparency on. Hopefully that changes. The first probe of its kind since the millionaire financier, off himself in 29, allegedly, definitely didn't off himself, but that's what they say.

Starting point is 00:42:42 In 2019, in a Manhattan jail cell after being arrested on trafficking charges. Let's keep going. The probe was sparked in part by an anonymous 2019 allegations. The Epstein and Maxwell choked women to death during rough fetish sex and buried them on the ranch. Accusations that resurfaced with the release earlier this year of the tranchefiles from the FBI's investigation into the disgrace financier. The particular tip of men, that particular tip of men being R-worded matched the pattern of other abuse and transport and trafficking of women. And that's why it raised alarm bells for me, according to Stansbury. There's certainly hundreds of allegations of women who experience really dark experiences.

Starting point is 00:43:22 So I think it's, if we're really dedicated to get to the bottom of the truth of what happened in New Mexico and on that property. One of Epstein's accuser, Shante Davies, who you guys have definitely heard of before she's been out there for a while discussing her story, who was photographed giving former President Bill Clinton a shoulder massage, told 60 minutes she spent countless hours feeling like a mouse and a trance. at Zorro Ranch. More creepy pictures of Epstein right there. It's just a creepy looking place. There was a lot of time in my room like a mouse in a trap waiting for a knock on the door and for someone to say Jeffrey is ready for his massage now, she told the program before explaining what that meant for her. R word, full on, forced on sexual R word. Davies also recounted stories of girls waking up at Zorro Ranch with doctors leering over them after having unknown medical

Starting point is 00:44:12 procedures performed on them exactly what I just said about Chris Hansen's report. There's another count of a baby actually being born and Ghilin taking it. She said, I remember overhearing conversations about creating the perfect baby from the perfect gene pool. I remind you guys, Zoro Ranch is located

Starting point is 00:44:28 at least dangerously close to the Mexico border. It's not like on it, but it's dangerously close in a nondescript area at one of the places where some of the most human trafficking in the Western Hemisphere happens.

Starting point is 00:44:42 And when you read stories like this, like the baby's being taken after birth, that's Game of Thrones. shit. That's like what the dude did out in the woods. We'd give away all the male babies to the white walkers and shit. Like what the fuck are we? Yeah, like true detective season. Yes. Yeah, again, I have got. If anyone out there knows Nick Pizzlelaw. I know. Please tell him. I'm trying to get him to Hoboken, New Jersey to talk about true detective with him. He is the writer and creator of true detective. And for my money,

Starting point is 00:45:13 wrote the greatest season of television in the history of television was season one right there. I just want to know where that came from because to me Nick obviously has to fucking like he was ahead of the curve knowing some things or having heard some things about elites that had real evidence and he was able to write this tangential fictionalized story if you will where all these types of themes exist

Starting point is 00:45:42 and now we're seeing it play out to where like, oh, no, this shit's very real. This is what they do. That'd be a great podcast. We got to do that. I think there was another thing I pulled up over here about, yeah. So even if you just go and look at that, see that link, I think it's from like fucking Mother Jones or something right there. You see it? Under eugenics.

Starting point is 00:46:14 Oh, yeah. Yeah. So especially when I hear some of these buzzwords that we've heard billionaires and technocrats openly say for years that sound like they're trying to do a good thing. And then you see them mention in the context of like Epstein's eugenics. If that doesn't make your skin crawl, I can't help you. So Jeffrey, this is an article called Jeffrey Epstein couldn't stop emailing people about eugenics in the latest files. The trafficker gives it a. Silicon Valley Pilled name, genetic altruism. How many times have you heard some of these Silicon Valley dudes use that term, not even the genetic part, but like the altruism part.

Starting point is 00:46:55 Oh, we're trying to do the best for society. And yet then the same fucking guys like Peter Thiel, when they're asked if like humans should exist in X number of years, they pause for 30 seconds as if they're not sure the answer. And you know what that means the fucking answer is. And these are the people we're going to listen to. Come on. Let's go down a little bit.

Starting point is 00:47:16 Let's get a little juicy details here. So why was Jeffrey Epstein obsessed with genes and the latest trunch of Epstein records and emails made available by the DOJ? Themes of genes, genetics, and IQ alongside more explicit threads of white supremacy keep cropping up, often adjacent to Epstein's fascination

Starting point is 00:47:34 with steering research in the biological sciences. These newly released emails include a February 26th correspondence, 2016 correspondence with Nome Chomsky, in which Epstein insists on a genetic basis for black and white differences in test scores, using it as a springboard to advocate for wider genetic editing. Practically impossible, Chomsky replies. And if it could be done, the best use would be changing the genes for dedicated savagery

Starting point is 00:48:01 and lack of concern for the welfare or even security of the population on the part of that of educated elite and reaches of positions of power. Agreed, Epstein wrote, genetic altruism. Epstein's language, perhaps influenced by the biologist Richard Dawkins, whose own interest in eugenics, altruism and selfishness, shows some compatibility, shows some compatibility, echoes Silicon Valley's beloved, effective altruism, another fox foe altruism built on dreams of harum bunkers for the super rich. Obviously, he's pretty obsessed with this stuff, and, you know, it's gross. And, you know, forget the fact that he has this ego where he actually thinks he's one of like the great DNA samples to ever be blessed upon this earth, which is factually wrong in every fucking category. When you are getting into this era now where people are considering playing God. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:05 They've written a lot of books about this throughout human history. We've made a lot of movies about it. It doesn't end well. And art is correct on that. There is an element of the human experience where we have to be given to the free will that we're able to have and play the different hands that were dealt individual to individual. It's the light in the dark, the good and the bad, the yin and the yang, the up and the down, the meaning of life. Like that's what it is. And when you start to get to the point like some of these things that Sam Altman talks about with these, you know, selecting for perfect genetic.

Starting point is 00:49:43 and stuff like that. It never fucking ends there. So it's very scary that a prolific spy trafficker arms dealer connected fucking billionaire fixer for the elite super government class is a dude who was obsessed with this. And the place where he was most obsessed with doing it is one of the least investigated parts of his entire very public case. That's not good. Yeah, I don't even know what to say to be quite honest with you.

Starting point is 00:50:15 It's just, yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, part. There's one more really gross detail here that just, you know, I got to hit it. I've had it on there for weeks. This needs to be said. You see the dental. Yeah. So Mara Norfolk pointed this out.

Starting point is 00:50:33 It's just like, but Epstein Island allegedly had a dental office. So Epstein had a fully equipped dentist office on Little St. James decorated with the creepiest 3D faces and his last girlfriend Karina Shuliac just happens to be a dentist. Why would he have a dental office? Well, according to one survivor, child victims had their front teeth pulled so they couldn't bite back during assaults. That's, yeah, that's, that's crazy, bro. I don't really have any. Yeah, I think I'm done with this topic today. That's enough. Yeah. I'm really glad that us in this room and you guys out there listening can't even fathom or relate to in any way the line of thinking that you would have to have for any of these things to even occur to you to exist. But can't say that about everyone on this earth apparently including people with some pretty deep pockets.

Starting point is 00:52:05 Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people have vested interests in making sure that this doesn't, you know, this is as far as it goes, I guess. Yeah. Just some redacted emails. But the same people might be doing a little editing to us without us even realizing it. That was a good fine, Joey Deef. You know what I'm talking about. Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 00:52:31 This is one of the wildest things I've read. In a while. And again, the conspiracy theorists at home keeping score are fucking fist pumping. They're on a generational run. They're on a generational run. We're going to react to this one because this is nuts. Shocking files reveal global elites explored remote human cell control. Great title, by the way.

Starting point is 00:53:00 Whoever wrote that, that's a great title. I just want to point that out. Great key words to a little bit. Stacey Labratoa. Well, she might have not written it, wrote the title, but she wrote the piece. A resurface patent awarded to an elite biomedical research institution in New York City, right here, Joey, Dief. Details technology described as enabling, quote, the remote control of self-function. Now, here's where it gets good.

Starting point is 00:53:25 Granted to the Rockefeller University in 2018, somehow they always, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, all these, they always end up with the best stuff, for the most, I should say the most powerful stuff, it seems. But granted to the Rockefeller University in 2018, the patent describes using tiny engineered particles called nanoparticles that can be directed towards specific types of cells either from outside the cell or by being placed inside it. When exposed to radio waves, the particles heat up

Starting point is 00:53:57 and activate temperature-sensitive channels within the targeted cells. That heat then triggers a biological response inside the cells such as switching on certain genes or prompting the production of proteins. According to the patent, the technology could potentially be used to treat a wide range of diseases and disorders by remotely activating specific cellular functions inside the body. While the technology could potentially revolutionize healthcare, the patent has sparked fears and conspiracy theories.

Starting point is 00:54:28 I wonder why. Because of the university's historic ties to the influential, historic ties to the influential, Rockefeller family. It's called fucking Rockefeller University. What do you mean ties? It's in the goddamn name. Anyway, the dynasty has long been the subject of claims alleging secretive influence over global politics, finance, and the creation of the so-called New World Order. However, there is no evidence that the technology was designed for mind control or population surveillance and the patent describes potential medical applications aimed at treating disease by activating specific cellular responses.

Starting point is 00:55:08 I can see the lawyer in the office who fucking wrote that sentence. So nothing to worry about here. Rockefeller University, this whole cabal of elites who are obviously like trafficking kids, financing governments, paying off politicians who are the clientele that are a part of the trafficking kids, and then setting up organizations like Palantir, to surveil every fucking thing we do while we're taking notes from places like China who have already set up a surveillance state in their own country, as well as in other countries around the world where they own the ports and economically have all these countries

Starting point is 00:55:43 in debt to them. None of that matters because this is for the good, Joey Deef. We are creating this cell remote control strictly to fight diseases. Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we call a Trojan horse. they sell you something good it's right on the surface look we're gonna stop cancer don't worry they'll still fucking microwave your balls to give you cancer afterwards

Starting point is 00:56:07 they'll find another way to do that and instead inside the Trojan horse where the same they're helping you up top Joey Deve they're actually sending in something that you know and a peer spec here I don't know I'm not a fucking biologist

Starting point is 00:56:21 I'm just saying little remote control action little Manchurian candidate action little MK Ultra fucking 7.0 action? I don't know. Turn them on. That's where my head goes. Well, it's like when Sam Altman was talking about AI in the early days and how it was going to revolutionize the medical field.

Starting point is 00:56:41 And all I've been seeing it do is everything else besides that. That's right. You know? That's right. So this is going to help cancer research and fighting cancer for now. Both can be true at the same time, but the other 99% of the other 99% of the what's bad about the truth is gonna fucking not only ruin the 1% it's gonna make it 200% to zero instead you know what i mean oh yeah and i don't trust that little fuck as far as i could throw him

Starting point is 00:57:10 who sam yeah yeah so um i'm out on that dude we are we are trying to create the ascension a well it's not sentient like i just yeah you just it's it's like you're in he's an alien we gotta get ron and farrow in here I want to talk to him. I want to talk to Ronan Farrow. He did a big piece about Sam Altman and the people around Sam Altman, which we've had that on the list to really dig into that. I think we'll probably do that as well. But, you know, like we always say, Joey Deef, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, fucks like a duck.

Starting point is 00:57:52 It's usually a duck. Yeah. Sam's a duck for sure. Yeah, he's a thing. He kind of looks like a duck, too. Yeah, pure spec here. Pure speck here. Pure bread duck. I can see him floating around on the fucking Hudson.

Starting point is 00:58:08 Definitely. Blend right in. Yeah, he's floating, all right. Let's go back to this article, though. So we're back to the remote control cells for people, keep it track at home. Even so, social media users have speculated online that the technology could theoretically be misused for neurological or very theoretical. or very theoretically, for neurological or behavioral manipulation despite the patent focusing on medical research applications.

Starting point is 00:58:34 One X user wrote, the global elites plans have been blown wide open. Does the patent registered in the name of Rockefeller University spell the end of humanity's biological independence? The claims circulated online, it just, this is really important, are not supported by the evidence presented in the patent itself, because of course they're going to present all the evidence of their evil plans and a patent because they're legally required to do that by the laws that they fucking created and funded. I also feel like that ex-user that they just used as an example was probably some guy with like three likes and it's like the global elite's plan

Starting point is 00:59:08 has been busted and they're like, oh, he's perfect. He's perfect. Put him, he's publish it. Let's you, they didn't even link them back. All right, the patent describes a system called nanoparticle induced circuit excitation. Nice. Also known as nice. Nice. Nice. which uses radio waves and tiny magnetic particles to remotely activate specific cells inside the body. In scientific terms, the patent's use of the phrase remote control of cell function refers remotely activating biological responses in targeted cells using radio frequency signals. The technology works by attaching engineered nanoparticles to certain cells. When those particles are exposed to a radio frequency field, they heat up slightly and activate temperature-sensitive

Starting point is 00:59:53 channels inside the targeted cells, that activation can trigger biological responses such as turning genes on, producing proteins, releasing hormones like insulin, or activating neurons. I'm just saying, Joey Deef, maybe if they had like a diabetic patient, they could control their insulin in a bad way and maybe if they don't like someone, a little remote control action, they were gone. They make them go crazy. Make them go crazy. You know, now everyone's putting all the GLPs and stuff.

Starting point is 01:00:21 Oh, dude. I'm not a doctor That could be an episode That could be an episode In an episode I've seen enough here though Essentially you know They have to

Starting point is 01:00:32 They have to legally hedge With the things they say But we can kind of We can see the picture Of what this kind of shit is And we don't like it I don't like it Here on this show we don't like it

Starting point is 01:00:45 I'll let you guys decide in the comments If you do But that was That was a good fine I don't need I see you put that other one in there. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:00:55 I mean, we're not doing this again. We're not doing this. I said it last week, Thief. I don't want to hear it. They're going to start saying, ah, this fucking guy got hanta virus, and they're locking down the whole goddamn county. No.

Starting point is 01:01:13 Nope. Nope. I don't want to hear your allegations about the FIFA World Cup and everyone coming here from around the world. I don't. I'm not. doing this again. I'm just saying if I was gonna make a really good movie, it would be, it would go like

Starting point is 01:01:28 this. Hey everybody, don't worry about it. It's not gonna be a big deal. It's not gonna be like that last one, we promise. And then the World Cup happens and everyone's like, yeah. And then all of a sudden in like July, August, they're like, oh fuck. No. Guys, oh shit, we fucked up.

Starting point is 01:01:47 You know what, Dief? Just don't make the movie. Yeah, no, I don't wanna make that movie. Just don't make the movie. I don't wanna make that movie. I don't wanna make that movie. I don't wanna hear it. I wish everyone all the best.

Starting point is 01:01:54 We're not fucking doing this game. Yeah, no, I'm just, I'm fucking around. You know, what was the line that kid in Fort Lickerdale had, like, the first day of COVID? He was like, if I get Corona, I get Corona. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah, I'm just, I'm messing. Yeah, that's, you know what?

Starting point is 01:02:10 He was on to something. You know, we ripped him at the time or whatever they did in the media. But he was on to something there. There's also a pending election, a primary election occurring on. Tuesday that needs to be addressed here. Now, I do not like domestic politics. I largely stay away from it on my show. Sometimes I'll have someone in and then it turns into that and I just feel fucking exhausted and annoyed at the end. But this election of primary in Kentucky on Tuesday with Thomas Massey is particular maddening to me to watch because, you know, to this day, I couldn't tell you a lot of

Starting point is 01:02:51 Thomas Massey's domestic policy positions, but I can tell you his positions on three issues in particularly. Those issues are the national debt, Epstein, and foreign wars. And as far as I'm concerned, the evidence is on my side that his positions on those three very important topics are largely excellent. On the national debt, he is someone who does not believe in trying to basically legislate away the U.S. dollar and the middle class at the same time by continually increasing the debt ceiling, which now stands at almost 40 trillion in this country. I think that's a pretty good idea for him to be against that. He is also someone who is against continued foreign endless wars in the Middle East that are not in our interest. Also think he has pretty good fucking evidence there.

Starting point is 01:03:33 And he is along with Roe-Kana, one of the bipartisan, really, you know, fire-breaters here who has done everything in his power to get some transparency on the Epstein files while everyone tries to stop him. Now, we have certain things in this country when it comes to campaign financing that are legalized by our codes that should not be legalized and should not be allowed. And one of those things is we allow organizations like APAC or people that are that are sensitive to that issue to legally pour millions of dollars through super PACs and loopholes. basically into elections including primary elections against candidates they don't like. So right now, Miriam Adelson, who is an Israeli-American, emphasis on Israeli, and Paul Singer and

Starting point is 01:04:34 who the fuck is the third chump? What's his name again? Is it John Paulson? He's another fucking hedge fund guy. Yeah. Is it? Yes. Yeah, John Paulson. That's it. The three of them are pouring tens of millions of dollars into the race against Thomas Massey because he's not, I guess, like not Israel first. So they've run this damp rag of a personality named Ed Galrain against him who is an ex-Navy seal. Thank you for your service, Ed. But really just a complete bought-off stool pigeon. Yeah. If you will. And so there was a part. Pollymarket report the other day that now Massey's odds are below 50% that he's going to win. That has since gone back up above 60.

Starting point is 01:05:30 The fact that it's not way higher is ridiculous. Like, what are we doing here, people? There was some bullshit story that came out this week where they tried to say that Massey, after his wife died in 2024, was dating some fucking lady and got her a job with someone. else in Washington, D.C., then broke up with her and she wanted to sue for wrongful termination when she didn't have that job anymore. And she was allegedly offered $5,000 in hush money payments, which I'll take shit that never happened for $500, Alex. But, you know, you see things like this and then you see it amplified and you also see like the Trump administration continually try to hound this guy and say he's he's not ma guy, he's completely anti-American and all this stuff.

Starting point is 01:06:26 Like, what the fuck are we doing, people? What are we doing here? It's like one of the few guys who's actually like fought for some common sense things that everyday Americans want. My liberal friends, like really stone cold liberal friends like Thomas Massey, my conservative friends, my stone cold conservative friends, like Thomas Massey. What's the deal here? You know?

Starting point is 01:06:56 And by the way, like the fact that things like APEC are not registered under FARA, I've said this forever. We got to look in the mirror on that. We're the ones who legally allow that to happen. Legally allow that to happen. But we also have propaganda arms in the mainstream media that, you know, basically becomes some sort of gatekeepers and moving the numbers around

Starting point is 01:07:23 and deciding who's going to get the attention of the narrative that's going to be required to win on a Tuesday in November. I have a video there, Dief, of Thomas Massey, I think this past week, like explaining this, first starting off and a couple other things and eventually getting this. I want to play this because this is the guy in his own words talking about what he's up against here.

Starting point is 01:07:50 What was this on? Cincinnati public radio? Yeah. Okay. All right, let's run it. The bad thing about being the nail that sticks up is it's a, the force of the whole swamp has come down on me. And it's billionaires.

Starting point is 01:08:09 It's not a grassroots funded thing. It's not like a bunch of MAGA, you know, activists have said, I'm going to send $20 to this guy in Kentucky so he can beat Tom. Massey, it's predominantly three billionaires who are upset that I've never voted for foreign aid, particularly foreign aid to Israel. And they're also upset that I vote against the wars. And so these billionaires are funding a super PAC called MAGA, Kentucky. They are not MAGA, and they have never been to Kentucky. They're hedge fund managers and gambling magnates. There will be $6 million spent this week on TV and radio and mail.

Starting point is 01:08:52 So I apologize to the folks here in Cincinnati who have to watch the ads about this race in Kentucky. But and some people ask me, well, surely, Congressman Massey, now you would be against Citizens United, which allows unlimited spending in super PACs. And it's a double-edged sword. Let me tell you why I'm not against it. There are reforms that I could go for. Let me give you a reform. Maybe what if you just said, the only money you can spend in Kentucky and erase in Kentucky is from the people of Kentucky. I don't believe that would hinder your First Amendment.

Starting point is 01:09:30 But the issue of the super PACs, what's happened is Fox News, which is sort of the, they've got a monopoly on the screens in a lot of Republican houses, particularly people between the ages of 65 and 75. For the last 18 months, they've not invited me on a single show. And why are they doing that? Because they're afraid if they give me a venue to speak, that the White House will shut them out. And they want access more than anything. They need access in this Trump presidency,

Starting point is 01:10:04 whether it's with cabinet secretaries to come on their shows, you know, at the drop of a hat, or to get a special scoop on something. That's what Fox wants. And so to keep that special act, access. They have blacklisted me. So I can't get on TVs in the living rooms of the people that vote in this election unless I can buy TV ads. Otherwise, it'd be hard to get on Fox. You know, I have to pay to be on Fox now. That's insane. But that's, I mean, it shouldn't surprise any of us.

Starting point is 01:10:34 That's how the system works. You know, it's total pay to play and access journalism. You know, and it's like one of the things I even think, about in this job is not being afraid to piss people off. Doesn't mean you're going to be right about everything. I certainly get shit wrong. But like where the evidence goes, I'll report on it and I'll talk about it and we'll have people in here to talk about it and you guys can decide for yourself. But when you start making the decision on evidence on the basis of, ooh, if I do this, what am I not going to be able to do because some other people are pissed about it? Then you've got to totally cut your own balls off and you've just become some sort of propaganda arm for,

Starting point is 01:11:22 you know, something, whatever that is. And obviously, like, you look at CNN, you look at Fox, you look at MSN, all these organizations, we knew that. This is not a news alert on that part right there. But to see the amplification from the highest levels of, you know, the executive branch right now and the media and stuff of, you know, some moron on the other side, who has no business being in this election because he's so paid off by a bunch of people who have no interest in the interests of America, in my opinion, you know, to try to unseat a guy who's actually trying to stand up for the every man, as it would appear. That's crazy. I don't know when Roe Conner's next election is, but we'll probably see the same shit there,

Starting point is 01:12:09 you know? And so I don't ever really like commenting on any political races about. the politics of it but when i do see such open money not of this country's interest being poured into things like this with our own people whether you like thomas massey or not that's crazy and it should not be allowed and that's not controversial to say totally insane totally insane now donald trump also went to china this week and you know he went with a very populist delegation. They can put a tweet right there. Do you have that?

Starting point is 01:12:54 Yeah, I just put that up. Yeah, I want to make sure I give these people credit for being there. And it was the head of BlackRock, the head of Goldman, the head of MasterCard, the head of Cisco, the head of meta, which that's actually, it wasn't quite the head. It was not Zuckerberg, but it was like one of their high-level people there. The head of Visa, Apple, and then Tesla, Elon Musk. you know, you going over there in the middle of trade disagreements. I've appreciated some of Donald Trump's policy as it pertains to China. I think that there's some toughness, if you will, shown there that's important because I,

Starting point is 01:13:35 obviously, when it comes to the GDP war and the eventual, you know, kind of ongoing potential currency war going on, that is the other player in the game here. and yeah, for example, I've talked about I don't want to see oil. I want to see the petro dollar die and suddenly shit's getting handled in non-American dollars. And so, of course, China's a big issue.

Starting point is 01:13:59 But Donald Trump, first of all, the optics of this were interesting. Xi did not meet him on the airport on the tarmac. Then when they went and met, do we have this video? This was actually like kind of funny. I know this was driving Trump nuts.

Starting point is 01:14:17 Xi made sure his chair was way higher than Donald Trump's. So you can see Trump's sitting right there and then when they zoom out, you can see we don't need volume on it. When they zoom out, you can see how much higher Xi is, like to make them look bigger and everything.

Starting point is 01:14:36 I mean, this is bullshit that occurs in the propaganda wars and stuff. But, you know, it was obviously not on Trump's territory, so there's things that are out of his control. But this comes omitted discussion where Donald Trump is openly talking with Xi about potentially allowing a $1 trillion investment from China into the United States to build factories, which, listen, we're all about having money invested in our country.

Starting point is 01:15:05 When it's a government like China who has proven it every single turn to invest in any level of infrastructure or economic whatever in the United States, and then be caught spying afterwards, you know, yeah, you should be questioning this. So it's China's spying operations are in everything that they do here. We've covered this a million times on the show. So the fact that Trump is doing this apparently against the advice of his aides is not a great sign. And part of it is, and there's some pure spec here, but there's also some. spec from the mainstream and from fucking everyone talking about this who may have some sources related

Starting point is 01:15:53 to the negotiations. Part of this is Trump is trying to get some help from China to wind down this disastrous Iran war, which, listen, I'm not opposed to him getting help on winding something down, but what are you paying for to do that? You know what I mean? Are you going to get the same end result in the long run that does not justify the means? at all here. Reasonable question. Because you know, China's like, they're allies with Iran. I don't think they love Iran that much. They like Iran's oil.

Starting point is 01:16:28 You know, so they can be moved. But you also have it here where Xi and Trump are playing games with the whole Taiwan thing and having private conversations about it where Xi's like, hey, would you come defend Taiwan if we invaded? Which of course means he's fucking thinking about invading. And Trump's like, yeah, I'm not going to talk about that. It gets weird, man. It gets weird. And when you go and start a war in Iran and, you know, invade another nation like that on a fucking Friday night, you win. I talked about this with Daniel D. Martino in episode 370 at the beginning of the year. You emboldened a country like China. It'd be like, well, now we got to take Taiwan or self-preservation.

Starting point is 01:17:12 It starts to become a land grab war. and that feels like it's very real it's always been real to be clear that they might do that but it's feeling like he's really thinking about it and what Donald Trump's gonna now have a two front war with China if they I don't think so

Starting point is 01:17:30 you better go fucking order the deal and make a great deal but what I'll tell you is that the whole opposite day effect of like whatever Trump says on the campaign trail is going to change when he fucking becomes president continues because we got this clip from Trump talking with his buddy, Sean Hannity, about, what was this, 500,000, what was it the saying it's good to have 500,000 foreign Chinese students in the U.S. and for China to purchase

Starting point is 01:18:00 U.S. farmland, which we've covered, they're purchasing that all over America, dangerously close to military bases in many cases, by the way, because colleges and farm prices would collapse if they don't. And he says, quote, I frankly think that it's good that people come from other countries and they learn our culture. Hey, listen, on the surface, I agree with that too. Not when you're fucking given a bunch of farmland to Chinese, but let's listen to what he said to Hannity here. So we can get it in his own words. I would assume I'm in Beijing if I wanted to buy property near one of their military installations.

Starting point is 01:18:39 I don't think President Xi. No, you wouldn't let you. I don't, look, it's not that I love it. You want to see farm prices drop? You want to see farmers lose a lot of money. Just take that out of the market. But they've had a lot of land for a long time. Obama did nothing about it.

Starting point is 01:18:57 They bought a lot of it during the Obama administration. He did nothing about it. As far as the students, that's true. It's 500,000 students, they come, good students. I could tell them, I don't want any students is a very insulting thing to say

Starting point is 01:19:16 to a country. They would then immediately go out inside building universities all over China. But if you don't have those students, good students, by the way. If you don't, and we do another thing, you know, if they're good and they want to stay in America,

Starting point is 01:19:30 we won't come to Green Carden, things like that. You know, and not only them, but other countries, but if you want to see a university system die, take a half a million people out of it. And you know, the ones that won't be heard are the top schools. The top schools will do fine, but your lower schools,

Starting point is 01:19:50 you're lower the ones that don't do quite as well, they'll be dying all over the place. I frankly think that it's good that people come from other countries and they learn our culture and many of them want to stay here. I think it's good. Not everybody agrees with me. And it doesn't sound like a very conservative position. and I'm as conservative.

Starting point is 01:20:13 I'm a conservative guy. I'm really a common sense guy, I think, more than a conservative. All right, that's enough. I think Madge is common sense, you know. How about a couple things? Oh, our college system would die. You mean the overinflated college system that is indebted people for hundreds of thousands of dollars

Starting point is 01:20:30 across this country where they get no actual real benefit from it afterwards? Oh, we're worried about not having these students when, again, And even despite what I just said right there, we're trying to focus and you campaigned on trying to help Americans first and help our next generation be able to be put in a better position. This is us worrying about bringing in other people who, by the way, they got plenty of great universities in China. It's not a country that's hurting. He's a common sense guy. Yeah, but he's a common sense guy. It's just, it's so ridiculous.

Starting point is 01:21:05 And there was a clip this week, Joe. it's under Iran war right there that just encapsulates how much from a taking a temperature perspective Donald Trump seems to have completely lost his fastball that I actually I watched this a few times

Starting point is 01:21:26 because I genuinely couldn't believe that he said it and then repeated it which he always repeats things but you would have thought the first part where he answers this question on the White House lawn was like a slip of time where he's like, oh, that came out wrong and he would like kind of change what he said, no. He literally doubles down on it.

Starting point is 01:21:43 This is, this is a reporter asking him if he thinks about the American, the average American's financial situation with respect to the Iran war. And here's what Donald Trump says. Not even a little bit. The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think about American financial situation. I don't think about anybody. I think about one thing.

Starting point is 01:22:23 We cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. That's all. Yeah. It's like the old Michael Jordan meme. Fuck them kids. You know? We're not worried about it. So the same guy who runs, like I said, on America first,

Starting point is 01:22:38 the same guy who talks about bringing back jobs. The same guy who talks about the legislating away of the middle class. The same guy who says he's the blue-collar billionaire and wants to help out the average American. The same guy who built his base that way is now legislating a war that has gas at fucking $7 in some places. Herding every single person that he claimed the campaign for. And then when asked if in the middle of this unfolding disaster that we've gotten into, if he thinks about the very people who put him in office, he says, not even, I don't think

Starting point is 01:23:16 about them at bull. not even a little bit you plagued yourself yeah I got nothing I don't know how you defend that yeah and again I hope to see him in the war tomorrow

Starting point is 01:23:41 and I'll be grateful if he does you gotta swallow your pride and cut your losses it's stupid and they're burying this in the timeline as well you know there was something that came out this week where according to U.S. Intel up to roughly 90% of Iran's missile storage and launch facilities are now partially or in some cases fully operational.

Starting point is 01:24:04 This is the same shit that was like destroyed never to return. Like what are we doing? What are we doing? You can't just solve the whole world's problems. I would love it if we could. But I remind you, Donald Trump just visited with all his favorite. corporate dignitaries and called it a great honor to sit with the communist fucking leader of China who executes people he doesn't like every day. We're not invading China because that's not how the

Starting point is 01:24:40 world works. I just I don't know how many other ways to say it. And again, you know, we also saw another example this week of the brazen fucking leadership that he tries to put forth in this country of Benjamin Netanyahu

Starting point is 01:25:02 coming on to 60 minutes and basically saying this war will end when I say it ends is that the first one we got? Yeah, here we go and by the way Barry Weiss

Starting point is 01:25:17 real gem who runs 60 minutes who is a one issue pro-Israel above everything journalist. She ain't a journalist at all. You know, she's running that place into the ground

Starting point is 01:25:33 probably for the best if this is the route she's going to go. But she allowed Benjamin Netanyahu to pick who was going to interview him. So Major Garrett did it. He's not even a 60-minute correspondent. As I understand, Leslie Stahl was sidelined. I don't think Leslie Stahl

Starting point is 01:25:49 should have been doing it either, though, all due respect. She's like 85 years old, you know, find someone who's going to be really, really on it. But like, they also selectively edited this interview for things Netanyahu said at one point, I don't think we're going to play this clip, but at one point, you know, he talked about trying to throw us all a bone of like, yeah, I want to end the U.S. funding of billions of dollars into Israel. We shouldn't have to do that anymore. But basically what he was saying is they were going to backdoor it through weapons deals and stuff. So it's like basically like, like a really good accountant

Starting point is 01:26:21 if, you know, he's working with a fucking mobster, they'll launder money. I say really good accountant, a criminal accountant, but someone very talented. They'll launder money by moving it around into other places. That is effectively what he was saying

Starting point is 01:26:36 right into your living room in the United States. But let's play this first one, Dief. Is the war with Iran over? And if it isn't, who will decide when it is? I think it'll accomplish a great deal, but it's not over because there's still nuclear material enriched uranium that has to be taken out of Iran. There is still enrichment sites that have to be dismantled.

Starting point is 01:27:00 There are still proxies that Iran supports. There are ballistic missiles that they still want to produce. Now, we've degraded a lot of it, but all of that is still there, and there's work to be done. How do you envision the highly enriched uranium will be removed from Iran? You go in and you take it out. With what? Special forces from Israel, special forces of the United States. Well, I'm not going to talk about military means, but what President Trump said to me, I want to go in there.

Starting point is 01:27:30 And I think it can be done physically. That's not the problem. If you have an agreement and you go in and you take it out, why not? That's the best way. What if there isn't an agreement? Can it be taken out by force? Well, you're going to ask me these questions. I'm going to dodge them because I'm not going to talk about our.

Starting point is 01:27:47 military possibilities, plans, or anything of the kind. And I'm just trying to get at how long is it going to take to achieve that aim? I'm not going to give a timetable to it, but I'm going to say that's a terrifically important mission. All right, let's hit the social media eighth front one as well. I've talked about this before, but the sinister nature that Nanyahu talks about social media, like it needs to be put under the conditions. control of his narrative and Israel's narrative, you know, especially when he's saying it about U.S. platforms and stuff like that, it should piss you off. It should totally piss you off.

Starting point is 01:28:28 But let's hear it in his own words so that I don't twist them. We have seen the deterioration of support for Israel in the United States. I wonder why. Almost, I would say it correlates almost 100% with the geometric rise of social media. And that by itself is not what caused them. I don't believe in censoring them or anything. But I'll tell you what happened. We have several countries that basically manipulated social media

Starting point is 01:28:59 with bot farms, with fake addresses, to break the American sympathy to Israel, to break the American-Israeli alliance because they think it's in their interests. And they do it in a clever way. You know, it's like you hear a text message. I'm a red-blooded Texan. I always supported Israel, but I can't stand what they're doing.

Starting point is 01:29:22 I'm turning against Israel. And then you trace the address to some basement in Pakistan, you know. And that's something that is hurt us badly. While we were fighting the physical military battle on seven battlefields, seven front of war, we were completely exposed on the eighth front, the media war, really the social media war. Okay. So let me be clear. Benjamin Netanyahu is absolutely right that there's propaganda that exists on the other side of the issue.

Starting point is 01:29:53 For sure. For sure. There's bot farms. There are fake accounts, as he said in Pakistan, India, you pick a country where information that is not real comes out. And we constantly have to fact check stuff that's coming in because, of course, it's easy to dogpile. The lack of self-awareness he has, though, on his quote-unquote other seven fronts of the war and how many of them that he has caused and how many of them that he has caused and how much many of them are involved in, I don't know, his fucking greater Israel project is hilarious. And the lack of self-awareness that he has on the actions that he has taken for total war on other fucking places like Gaza, like Lebanon, where they're ethnically cleansing people and, in my opinion, committing genocide in places like Gaza for sure, the lack of self-awareness on that and thinking that he just needs, he has a social media problem that he can propagandize

Starting point is 01:30:42 away is ridiculous. And when platforms like TikTok are sold to guys in government deals like Larry Ellison, who's one of the chief donors for friends of the IDF, who then puts in charge like ex-IDF people to handle the social feeds at TikTok, yeah, you're not really helping your argument. You're also not helping your argument when you're talking on Barry fucking Weiss's platform, where we know where she stands on this issue. Run the tape.

Starting point is 01:31:12 Use her own words. this is not, these are completely partisan sources that have drawn their own lines in the sand that happen to correlate more with his lines than the other lines. And when information comes out that, you know, is, oh, I don't know, here's the consequences of my own fucking decisions that he doesn't like. And he tells you it's an eighth front of a war

Starting point is 01:31:40 that now they got to focus on because they've been so busy fighting the seven front wars. By the way, they're not sending any foot. soldiers to Iran. They're making our guys do that, but that's neither here nor there. When, you know, the Eighth Front War is now something that he looks at like another battlefield. Yeah, get ready for more of his fucking propaganda to try to tell you, no, what you're seeing is not what you're seeing. Listen, I've said this before. I already handicap what I see online just automatically is like, and I've done this since literally the beginning of this war, half of its AI.

Starting point is 01:32:13 This still that other half, bro That other half is bad enough And by the way, there's a lot of videos we know aren't AI They're not propaganda They are raised neighborhoods Raised as in fucking destroyed Does that sound like a Bastion of democracy

Starting point is 01:32:36 And human rights, freedoms in the Middle East? No, it does not Does that exonerate other countries in the Middle East that don't practice good human right policies. No, it does not. Both are true at the same fucking time. I don't know why this is so hard for people. We have also done serious damage because of him, and because of our decision to follow him, by the way, let's not remove the guilt here. To our alliances with some of these Gulf countries in the Middle East who, I'm not saying it's all, you know, just out of the goodness of their heart that they've been.

Starting point is 01:33:14 been developing relationships with us over the past couple decades and particularly. I'm, I wasn't born yesterday, but who have at least, you know, made some efforts to have some friendly relations with the United States that could be very useful as allies who now are getting fucking their airports bombed and shit. Like, come on. How long are we going to do this? How long are we going to listen to this guy talk who keeps delaying his trial by declaring another fucking war? He's guilty as hell, by the way. Review the evidence. And that's not even the genocide part. This is like regular old political fraud.

Starting point is 01:33:48 He's guilty as hell. You know, I'm just sick of it, man. And I don't want to see the guy on my fucking airwaves. I don't want to see him in New York meeting with U.S.-born influencers trying to talk about how to move American opinion. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I've had enough, Joey Deef. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:08 You're preaching to the choir, brother. I'm with you. It's been a long day of recording. We've been on air for like the last six hours doing a podcast before this and then doing this one. So I think it's good to close it there. As always, we will have two guest episodes this upcoming week. I'm still deciding what those are. We've recorded some good ones and we got some fun recordings next week that I won't talk about yet.

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