Julian Dorey Podcast - #424 - “False Flag!” - 2030 AI Overlord, Trump Psyop, Israel & Joe Rogan Idea | Amy Dangerfield

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

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So you're an Australian America first. Are you going to have to explain that one? It's a little controversial. Apparently, yeah, yeah. How does that happen? I think you move to America. You love America. You recognize the difference between the American political system and the Australian one.

You realize that America should be the system that everyone has around the world. And Americans really don't know how good they have it. But unfortunately, they're trying to impede on the freedoms that we have here, which, makes me particularly passionate about being in America first because I know how bad it can get in Australia. Right. Now, how long ago, before I dig into that, how long ago did you come over from Australia? Ten years ago. And what made you come here? Just through like a relationship that I had at the time, ex-boyfriend. That's how it happens. That's how it happens. And then you come, you love it, you stay. Exactly. Yeah, it was Maui, Hawaii too. I lived in Maui for four years.

That's like, so it wasn't. That's not even America. Right. But so what happened is, is I lived in Maui from 2017 until 2020 when COVID took place. And Hawaii was pretty bad when it came to COVID, the lockdowns and such. Really? Not comparatively to Australia. Like, even when I was living in Maui, my mom would call me and say, like, I'm so glad that you're living in America compared to being back here. Well, they were living in the fucking purge over there in Australia.

It was one of the worst countries, for sure. But that's why I moved to Florida. Obviously, being a red state, there was a lot more freedom. I think Florida shut down maybe for like a week. But by the time I got there, it was free reign, basically. But that's what made me very passionate about politics. I was actually very apolitical before COVID. But observing the difference between the political systems in Australia versus America

may be curious, like, okay, why do we have so much freedom over here versus Australia where it was so tyrannical and everything was shut down? There were COVID camps. I mean, I'm sure we're going to get into all of it. Yeah, what was the full lore there? Because people talked about that. And like, we saw videos of basically like cops visiting people's houses for social media posts about like, hey, I don't like being inside. Helicopters above houses and stuff.

People go into protest and they're being shot with rubber bullets, probably other stuff. I don't know. But like these supposed camps that the government was setting up were these like, if people were rebelling in any way online, they could get sent there? Like, what was the bar? A lot of kids, actually, this is where a lot of the controversy came. If kids in school exhibited any symptoms of having COVID, they would be taken to these camps, sometimes without their parents even knowing what was happening and basically just administering testing, isolation, you know, making sure that they could, you know, curb the spread before returning back to civilization.

But yeah, it was really bad. You couldn't leave your house. There were curfews everywhere. It was basically like the worst liberal cities in America times 50. Hey, guys. If you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge huge help. Thank you.

Essentially. Yeah. Now, you said you were apolitical really before COVID, which includes time being here. But before you left Australia, even if you were an apolitical person, were there parts of what you saw there that you're like, even back then? in 2015, 2016, whatever, where you're like, I don't like, I don't like where this is going. You didn't think I did that. I had no idea. In fact, I actually, okay.

So, in Australia, it's a mixed economy. There's elements of socialism mixed in, socialized healthcare, for example. Like in Australia, there were a couple of times they got sick. I got free ambulance rides. Doctors appointments were free. A lot of things are subsidized. by the government. And at that point, the illegal immigration problem wasn't too bad. It was always a multicultural society, but never overrun with illegal immigration, right? So I never really

recognized how bad it was, but being in America and getting sick a few times, having to pay, you know, $300, $400, $400 for doctor's appointments, I was like, wow, Australians really have it good until COVID struck. And then you realize when you are subservient to your government, when they give you so much, you're kind of indebted to them in the sense that when they then turn around and say, you need to do this. Or they say, you know, jump, you need to say how high, basically. You're subservient to them. And it's much more easier in that system for a government to be tyrannical versus a country like America where on the surface, maybe you don't have all these, you know, free benefits that are handed out to you,

but you have your freedom, which is more important, your freedom that is enshrined in the American constitution. Australia doesn't have a constitution. There's no constitution whatsoever. No. What's their main highest level codes? Well, I mean, for example, Australia was disarmed in the 90s after a shooting. that occurred there. And they didn't have to go through any mass, like, legal overhaul in order

to enact that. They can just come out and say, this is how it's going to be now, guys. Whereas in America, we have our right to free speech. We have the right to bear arms, all of the other amendments. And it takes a lot to try to overturn any of those. It's really impossible. That doesn't stop people from trying, which we've seen recently. And it's kind of scary, actually, when you consider everything that's happening in the US right now with them trying to attack free speech, 38 states now trying to implement hate speech laws to prevent genuine political discourse. But to a very large degree, America has their freedoms enshrined and protected. And I'm grateful for that. That's what ultimately made me in America first Australian. So this is what I'm hearing though. And I agree with you.

It's like you see all of the good that America is based on and how much upside the system has, especially in relation to the rest of the world. But because there are some trends where you see like that could potentially go the wrong way if people don't speak the fuck up, you're like, okay, that's where I come in. Yeah, I mean, it's where I can try to at least provide some backup support or some contacts. Like I don't want to be the leader of any movement by any means. I want to support the people who are running on an America First platform, for example, the people who are opposing foreign interests coming into the government, people who are, you know, against unnecessary wars in this country. And I'm also want to provide a voice to them rather than be any figurehead or leader of a movement myself, you know. I want to support those who are actually doing something

and in a position to actually do something. Yeah. Now, you mentioned as well, like you mentioned it with respect to Australia, but it's something a lot of the world is dealing with how to figure out where it's like immigration versus illegal immigration, which we've had obviously major issues on our border here and everything that's going into that. But like you, as someone who's immigrating in this country,

working on becoming a full citizen right now, how would you describe, I don't know, the usefulness of the system and you trying to do it like the legal way all these years? Well, I mean, I think if you're willing to invest your time, your money, because it's not cheap. It's expensive. Yeah, it's very expensive, actually. And you're willing to assimilate. Obviously, it's not that difficult to assimilate if you're from a country like Australia or the UK or Western countries where there's similar cultural makeup. But I'd say that's very difficult. different than people who were just coming over here because they want a free ride.

The incentives are all wrong, right? And we saw that especially during the Biden administration. You go to New York, you get a, what was it, like a $10,000, like, card to be able to spend on accommodation. Meanwhile, there's homeless veterans in the street. So there is a very big difference. That being said, there's forms of legal immigration that are wrong or exploitive as well, such as the H-1B visa programs,

that is a legal system that still imports portions of the third world that are largely incompatible with American society where you can actually exploit these workers and undercut the American workers and provide them less opportunities, raise the base pay for everybody within those areas where H-1Bs are prevalent because these workers are willing to accept, you know, less money,

poor working conditions and basically be exploited just because they want to be here. So I think there's a fine line. I mean, I totally understand the sentiment of people saying they don't want legal immigration as well because that is largely from H-1B visas and other programs like this. Yeah, when I had Tyler Oliver in here in episode 363, he really laid out a lot of the H-1B problems and also like some of the issues where people maybe will draw from their own countries at origin as well. to bring in those people as well. And then you're not hiring any Americans, just like you said.

And I didn't know as much about that system, but once you look at it and then look at like the industry's most affected, like tech, like some of the highest level shit, you're like, all right, it's just kind of another way we're leaving people behind here. 100%. I mean, a great example of that was the race that just took place in Ohio, Vivekramuswamy. You know, he says he wants the population of Ohio. to like, I'm not sure if it was double, but grow astronomically. And he's not talking about supporting heritage Ohioan families

and encouraging them to have babies and have a prosperous life and live in the American Golden Age. He wants to import a bunch of H-1B visa workers. And those are largely Indians as well. And that's not racist to say that. No, no, I understand the statistics. It's like 70% of H-1B visa workers actually comforts. from India, which is his heritage, right?

So exactly to your point, it's wanting to bring in, like, I guess, more of their own, to exploit these people and basically to just profit the American system. And that's why there's a very big distinction, I think, between like America first and Americans first, right? You can have America as like the organization as like a global superpower where, as Pam Bondi said, the Dow's at 50,000. That's all we should be talking about. But that's benefiting the America system, not the Americans who need to live within it, right?

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But remember, it's only available for a limited time. I think that's a really good distinction too because I think it's like everything else. You have to find a fine balance with things. And we seem to always have the pendulum for fucking everything on one side or the other. Right. So, yeah, we're a nation of immigrants. I don't think I had any family here before 1900 on either side. That's great.

But like, if you're doing it in a way that exploits the people coming in, puts them in a position to not assimilate as well and not create like the melting pot we've been able to create here, you're actually doing them a disservice almost as much as you're doing a disservice to people here who are being left behind over and over again. So if we could, for example, have a system, maybe it's not called H1B thesis or something, but whatever the fuck it would be called to where. it would be required that they are paid at the same level that you would pay American talent or higher, even to incentivize having American talent. And also you would be required to have systems to create possible better education or training programs for Americans here first.

And then other people could come in after those resources are fulfilled. I'd be cool with that. Which, by the way, Donald Trump, like, pitched that was a part of his campaign promise. He was originally going to charge anyone who wanted to bring in H-1B visa workers. I think it was 100,000 per year. And then he switched that up to just 100,000 one time after he got into office. And I don't even know if that is a viable policy or a policy that's actually been enforced whatsoever. But when he was campaigning, he wanted to make it almost like, he wanted to de-incentivize people bringing in workers from other countries to put Americans in the best possible position.

And he pitched that. And then there was a lot of controversy. when he back walked it. I think it was Dana Bash, who we had the interview with. Remember where she was pressing him on the H-1Bs? And he was saying, well, we just, we don't have talent here. We don't have talent in America. We need it.

And she was shocked. She's like, you're saying, we have plenty of talent here in America. And he straight up said, no, we do not have talent here in America. So he- He said that? Yeah. Trump said we don't. Wait, you haven't heard, you haven't heard that one now.

of Trump saying that they don't have talent here in the USA? Yes. He said that verbatim. That is, that's actually a verbatim quote. Did they hit him with like an opposite day pill or something? I mean, they have with everything, every single thing that he campaigned on, honestly. But going back to the immigrate, going back to the immigration thing and like the melting pot thing, I do want to make a point when it comes to illegal immigration because I talked about the perceived benefits that I had.

as an Australian citizen, free ambulance rides, free doctor's appointments, largely subsidized everything. But then, after I moved to the United States, I'm not sure if it was during COVID or sometime after, that's when the illegal immigration problem became rampant. And these people who came into Australia, they got the same rights as the Australian citizen so far as the healthcare and everything else.

And then suddenly, because we're a mixed economy, socialized economy, our resources were, were overwhelmed. There wasn't enough for the Australian citizens where all of a sudden, especially if you were in rural areas, you'd call an ambulance and it's like three hours for it to show up. If it shows up, there were people who died waiting for ambulance rides. There were entire hospitals that completely stopped elective surgeries because they were so overrun with people needing care and coming in and majority of them not actually Australian. And, and, and, And so like people want to talk about socialism and having a social safety net and the benefits of that.

We can talk about it. Maybe I see some merit in it, but not as the system currently exists where you also import people who aren't native to your country. And you bring them in in large overwhelming amounts and give them the exact same rights as the people who have been living here for generations or even if they're just like a legal Australian versus someone. who comes in illegally, if we provide that for absolutely everyone, there's not going to be enough to go around. Like, it's simple math. So you can't have both at the same time. You also run into, and this is something that's been covered by a lot of different people

I've had on my podcast over the past couple years, but you run into huge human health and safety issues for the people that you're allegedly open arms telling to come in. Yeah. You know, we have in America, for example, a fucking. enormous human trafficking problem. And I'm not even talking about just the Epstein stuff. Like that's, that's one piece up there, obviously, the main piece we look at. But I'm saying at the lower levels, like what's happening on the border when the coyotes bring people in and we never see them again, children, you know, but that's where like the whole, oh, we just got to love

everyone and let them in, it stops there. It's like, what about like the dead baby sitting in a freezer in a fucking truck somewhere? Toxic empathy. Yeah, exactly. Don't worry about that. It's like, what do you mean? Don't worry about that. I am worried about that. Yeah, no, I completely agree. It's backwards. And obviously, these are largely democratic policies that they try to enforce. And there is that saying, like, if you're young and you're not a Democrat, you don't have a heart. But then as you get older, if you're not a Republican, you don't have a brain.

Because you start to realize, like, we can't do all of these things at once. It's an impossible pursuit. Like, it's a noble pursuit, for sure, to help everybody. but are we also going to speak about the fact that a lot of the immigrants that want to come into this country, who are then not are compatible with the social makeup or cause a lot of these problems, we have completely destabilized their countries through our actions here in the USA. Yes. That's a piece that people largely leave out.

So it's not an issue that's super simple to solve because there's so many different layers to it, you know? 100%. And we're seeing that on a mass scale right. now because, you know, this war in Iran, that's something a lot of people on the left or right agree on is bullshit. This started 47 years ago when a regime took over. And yes, that was very bad. But what was put in charge before that? Some fucking CIA run, you know, totalitarian to an extent regime that, yes, it's not as bad as this one.

But like, it wasn't good. And the people then did something. And now we're like, oh, shit, not like that. What the fuck? Exactly. Yeah, cause and effect. We did that. And you're right, there is a lot of agreement on the left and right about that issue.

And that's something that I found particularly fascinating as a, I don't like to call myself a political commentator. I'd say I'm largely more a cultural commentator, but politics is downstream of culture. So that plays into it. Fascinating as somebody who observes politics, because right now I think there's more agreement between the right and left than we've ever really seen. seen before. In the last couple of decades.

Yeah, specifically, I mean, even really the last six months since this war started, because it's really highlighted the fact that like, you know, Epstein files, for example, there's people across the political aisle that don't agree with that, the Iran war, and an APAC funding our politicians. And what is underpinning all of that is a foreign interest, a foreign lobby, a foreign government that has more control over American policy than what our own lawmakers do, which is disgusting. It's because they're funded to the tunes of hundreds of thousands

or millions of dollars by this nation. And so they don't serve their constituents. They serve the people who pay them. And it's so sick and so sad that politics is a pay-to-play game nowadays. I don't think that this is how our founding fathers, envision the system would be set up. Beware of foreign influence, right? It used to be considered treason and now it's commonplace. Yeah, I think a lot of, you know, citizens out there, though, like you, like me, like many of the people listening, now with some of the tools

we have to be able to see these things, be it, you know, go to fucking Google and type it in and look at the open secrets, you know, opensecrets.com and see who's fun and what. I think a lot of people are waking up to it and they've had some red lines cross. Like for me, what you mentioned there, there were some serious red lines crossed with respect to Israel and what's going on. You know, the Epstein thing's obviously a mess and he's definitely connected with Mossad. For sure. Definitely connected my own government too with CIA.

So that's a whole thing on its own. But like we have it as literal White House policy that Operation Epic Fury was at the behest of the Israeli government. They wrote it out themselves. They said it three different fucking ways themselves publicly. And we also have it that we can see all these different groups that are clearly aligned with Israel, our paying politicians, just like we complain the big pharma does, just like we complain the plastics doing shit. So you should complain about this as well.

Yeah. You know? And I feel like it's something to where it's also created this enormous distraction where we have to worry about something at home that's now affecting us abroad. And we can't even focus on all the places that actually are a major threat. You don't hear anyone talking about China right now. Yeah. Last I checked, China's not fucking stopping all the shit they're doing. But we're so busy with, you know, one country that needs us to do all their fucking bidding.

And I'm sick of it. Yeah, yeah. And that's why they say it's like two ends of the same, two wings of the same bird, two sides of the same coin. Obviously, the left and right, there is very important distinctions when it comes to like social issues, economic issues. And these things certainly matter. They matter a lot. but they can never be as important as I were in sovereignty. And Israel is funding both sides.

You're hard pressed to find any politician who isn't funded by APAC and the other funding channels, by the way. There's a lot more than APAC now. Yeah, Republican Jewish Coalition. But it's not just that. So one thing that we have been working on recently, I say we, it's actually our CTO. And he, I don't know if he wants me to name him or not, but shout out to you. I'm sorry if you want me to say your name back. It's a sketchy thing.

I'll explain in a second. He created a tool that doesn't just track A-PAC and J-Street, but 39 other Israeli funding channels that are funding our politicians. Because here's the thing, they kind of caught on to the fact that if you take money from A-PAC, you'll be not seen as very positive in the court of public opinion. So they're doing it in all of these sneaky covert ways, including something called donor bundling, where they'll get like anonymous or individual donors to give to these campaigns. But when you track and kind of create a spider web of where these people funnel their money to, it's all Israeli funding channels, these private donors. How do we track that? Through advanced AI.

And it's very difficult to do manually. Advanced AI is tracking. Yes. So our CTO, he literally spent like $100,000 within a week, actually. That's what it cost to be able to do this. And he was able to find links to, for example, Amy Acton's campaign out in Ohio. Who's that?

She's the Democrat running for governor. So she just won her primary. She was uncontested against Vivek. So on the Republican side, it was Casey Putsch versus Vivek Ramoswamy. On the Democratic side, it was Amy Acton uncontested. And on the surface, it looks like she hasn't taken any as, But when you look at the donor bundling, she's actually taken like, I need to look at my phone. I don't remember off the top of my head, but it's, I believe, hundreds of thousands of dollars,

actually, from Israeli funding channels. I'm totally unfamiliar with this and like how you track that stuff. I know the base level things, like when I go onto opensecrets.com and can track literally where things are coming from. But when you say like your CTO built an AI to track how this is done, what does that look like? So he looks at, for example, the publicly available individual donors who the most of the most of the majority of these individual donors contributions are two Israeli funding channels. So, for example,

somebody who invested maybe $10,000 in Amy Acton's campaign has put in $300,000 into A-PAC. Oh, okay. So they do it through these sneaky, kind of like covert ways because they don't want the branding of Israel within their funding campaign. They want to be able to say, no, I don't take any foreign money, but your private donors who make up a large bulk of the money, you're that you've raised are donating huge amounts to Israeli-backed funding channels. And so we set this up, right? We were able to locate $300,000 more in campaigns such as Randy Fines. In Florida, for example, than what track A-PAC was able to locate.

Same as Laura Friedman, who's running in California's 30th District. We found a lot in Amy's and Vivek's campaign. But it's crazy. Since we actually launched this AI, we've been hit with constant DDoS attacks trying to shut us down. And in fact, oh, a DDoS. Yes. And Randy finds data was actually entirely erased from our website. Yeah.

Yeah. After we released the campaign exposing that we found $300,000 more, they completely erased everything. Of course, we had backups. And then our CTO re-secured the website. but it's just wild the lengths that they go to conceal this stuff and it just shows that we're over the target at the end of the day. Same thing actually with our event website. So we just put on an event where we brought together America First candidates.

Left. Yeah, I mean, we can get into that a little bit later. It was it didn't quite, it wasn't quite the unifying event that I had intended. But the event website from when we launched, we had a question box there. And just as soon as we started gaining traction and posting using the AI exposing these candidates, the question box was every single day spammed with illicit material pertaining to children. Oh, Jesus God. Trying to shut the website down.

Which again, it just shows that we're over the target. But this is truly like a genocidal apartheid state that will do absolutely anything to retain the power that it has within the American government. And this is what is unifying people, is opening their eyes to that fact. Even if we disagree on a million other things, I think we can all agree that our sovereignty is the most important and like being a free country again. I really wonder sometimes if this is the point, them doing this, all these things that you see is the point because every single thing you just highlighted is a prototypical or, you know, what's the word I'm like? looking for. Prime example of a Streisand effect. All these things bounce back and boomerang at 10 times the size on the opposite effect of what they want. And this is why I think about this.

You look at people who, you know, objectively do things that I don't like. Think of Benjamin Netanyahu, think of Jonathan Greenblatt from the head of the ADL and stuff like that. You know, I may think that a guy like Netanyahu is evil for what he's done with, you know, genocide in Gaza, ethnic cleansing Lebanon. LIS could go on with his whole career. I may think a guy like Jonathan Greenblatt's a fucking asshole for all the things he's done with the ADL. LIS could go on with that.

But what I won't do is let my dislike for those people cloud my judgment of what their capabilities are. And what I mean is these are not stupid people. These are very, very smart people. And so I asked myself, a guy like Benjamin Netanyahu whose whole life I have studied inside and out, who prior to October 7th, 2023, as best as I can tell, was a William Jefferson Clinton-level politician.

I mean, this guy could lie to your face and you'd almost fucking believe him. Did he just suddenly become a complete and utter reach PR-wise after October 7th? Did Jonathan Greenblatt suddenly decide that every single thing that comes out of my mouth is going to be something that is going to have the opposite effect of what I want to happen? And the list could go on with people who are strongly like supporting the current government in Israel and all that. I think the answer is no. I think it's a part of some sort of fucking campaign to foment fear. Proto plan, yeah. Sure.

And so you look at this and you realize, like, think of every tweet you see, whether it be a tweet from the fucking Israeli government or a tweet from this person doing that. Think of every time you see someone go on Pierce Morgan. Think of every time anything public happens that's lips are moving or fingers are fucking typing. If choice A is like, okay, I could say this or type this and it won't make things worse. It's not even like a good choice. It's just this won't make things worse. And choice B is this will make things much worse for me. Why do these people pick choice B every time?

It's either out of desperation because they're running out of time to fulfill something. and sometimes when you're desperate, that clouds your judgment. That's one option that I've looked at. And the other one is exactly what you're saying. It is a part of some type of long game that maybe we don't fully understand. And that's a scary part. I've actually considered this actually when it comes to the Democratic Party during the Biden regime, right, where everything got so crazy when it came to the gender stuff and kids getting transgender surgeries,

men and women's sport. All of this was actually insane to the average Democrat, just like a treat. traditional Democrat, but it was the thing that was put on loudspeaker that everybody heard about. And I almost feel like those specific initiatives, policies were largely funded by NGOs to make the Democrat seem so insane and so crazy that Donald Trump would need to be elected. And once Donald Trump got elected, obviously, then he was funded to the tune of, you know, $200 million by APAC. He'd already taken a good amount of money from them. but then it went from like 20 million to like 200 and something million.

And then all of a sudden we're at war with Iran. Would he have gotten into office if the Democrats didn't seem so untenable as an option due to all of these insane social policies to which they've largely conceded now? Like we've won the culture war. And it was easy to win because these things that they wanted were so patently insane. But they seem so insane that I'm like, did they actually think that this was like the right thing or like a viable? thing? No, I feel like this was an intentional sci-op to make the Democratic Party seem so insane

that there was no other choice but Donald Trump. And that may sound crazy. But also the fact that people actually believe these policies in the first place was crazy. I think it took a lot of funding and a lot of siops in order to make that even possible. Yeah, I don't think you're crazy at all. I don't know if you're right, but I think about the same thing you do all the time. I think it's a viable possibility because the other thing, I was just talking with my friend Clint yesterday on a podcast about this, but, you know, when Donald Trump's first term, once he had been a year out or something like that, and you could actually like think about it and get past like the COVID hysteria and all that. When that had ended, it was like you look back on it and there were a lot

of political things I disagreed with on him, but you remembered the fear going into it that people would stoke. Oh, he's going to hit the red button. Oh, he's going to hit the red button. Oh, it's going to be a complete disaster. The economy is going to crash. America's going to be dead. None of that happened. He was chaotic. He tweeted some stupid shit.

He fired people in 10 days sometimes. Like, it wasn't all perfect. I believe COVID would have happened to any president. I'm not saying he made all the right decisions there, but I didn't blame that on him, so to speak. So everything before that, I was like, you know, it wasn't the worst presidency I've ever seen. Meaning when if there's a possibility he gets elected again, I'm not going into it. Like, oh, fuck.

I wonder what's going to happen here. I'm more like, okay, we're kind of, you know, there's going to be some chaos. We know what we're going to get. I know Donald Trump is a New York real estate business guy. I know he's a trained professional liar. I know he's a bullshitter. I get it. And he did that sometimes in the first administration.

The level of opposite day, as I referenced earlier, though, that he has done in this current administration is beyond the pale for even what I expected. Yeah. He is gaslighting everyone to an extent that is, like in my head, I'm starting to think this is in a totally different way, almost beyond some of the gaslighting that I would hear from Korean John Pierre every day at the press conferences when Biden was in there. I mean, am I crazy to think that? No, you're not crazy. He did a total 180 on every single thing that he promised. One of the biggest things that he promised was no new wars. And I don't even think that being

America first means being an isolationist. I think there is wars that directly benefit our hemisphere in America directly, you know. But. But starting the war in Iran, like us. They're not big fans of America, but were they any direct danger to us per se? If our metric for going to war with countries who don't like us is just that. They don't like us. Right now. Exactly.

There's like, as James Fishback says, there's like 50 countries that we should be at war with right now. 100%. It's at the behest of Israel. Marco Rubio said it straight from the jump, you know? Iran was going to attack Israel and we believe that would then precipitate an attack on our allies in the region or the United States directly. They admitted it from the jump. But it wasn't just that obviously. It was so like the Epstein files.

That was one of the biggest campaign promises. And if it wasn't for Thomas Massey and Rokaneh, actually, a bipartisan resolution, people reaching across the aisle to actually enact any change, we wouldn't have anything at all. right now. And we still don't have everything. We have, what, three million out of six million files, something like that? Yeah, there's convenient 1999 to 2001 files missing too. Yeah, that's kind interesting. There you go. Wasn't the redactions as well? That was crazy when they initially released them and it was so sloppy. Right. Don't redact the victims names. Right. Don't redact those. But we need to know those. But also like, so going back to what you were saying about like, are some of these things intentional to evoke some type of a reaction, do you think the U.S.

government is actually that sloppy that their redactions were so sloppy? that people could literally put them in Word and unredact them because they weren't even properly redacted to begin with. Like, I don't understand what the long game necessarily may be, but I am not so small-minded to believe that there isn't some type of long game attached to all of this because it truly is so opposite. It makes no sense unless they're truly hanging something over his head that he's so terrified that he'll just do whatever it is that they say.

I think you're cooking on that. Well, maybe it's a combination of both. I don't know. It could be, and it could be a combination even beyond that too. But I have these same thoughts you do about like what is, you know, everyone says it like the five the chess move. I don't fucking know.

Yeah. I mean, I'm a YouTuber. Like, it's not that serious. But I'm asking the questions that a lot of people out there listening right now are sitting at home going, yeah, this seems kind of off. And I think it could be a huge opportunity, you know, because we've been fighting the whole like left, right thing forever and people have been, you know, victims of including me, like victims of siops in one direction or another with different ideologies

that get injected within there. You already highlighted some that were absolutely crazy. And we then fight over, you know, as the 99% the stuff that's only going to move 5% one way or the other. Yeah. And while we do that and we're out burning shit in the streets sometime, you know, Well, you and me are, but other people are. You know, the people who actually run this world get to sit in the back room and say, all right, got them right where we need them. Now let's do the shit that matters.

It's a distraction. A hundred percent. They keep us distracted with our culture wars so they can go and they can get away with genocide and with treason and betraying the American people and we're too busy fighting one another over gender and economic things that we don't. don't turn around and point the finger at who's actually to blame for a lot of the chaos. Like they intentionally sow the chaos to keep us distracted to a large degree. And that doesn't mean that the, again, that the disagreements that we have aren't legitimate

and that they're not important. They are. They're very important. But I think we need the ability to be able to maintain our sovereignty to have a free country so we can fairly argue about these things in the actual courts and in the court of public opinion and the best idea will win. But we're not able to legitimately doing that when it's two sides of the same

bird intentionally sowing this chaos to keep us fighting. I agree. You look at like the American Revolution, which I love studying, these guys, you had everything from like an Aaron Bird to an Alexander Hamilton as a part of those

factions. From 1775 to 1783, they all fucking agreed. They were good. They're like, hey, we got we got a main priority here. Let's take care of that. And then later, they're fucking literally shooting each other. That's sad, but it is what it is.

You know, it just goes to show you we haven't had enough of a unifying moment with things. Now, here's one I think about a lot because you're thinking on a lot of patterns here. And like I've been doing this a long time. And over time, you kind of like step out and you see things that people say in front of you in here that sometimes it's like in the moment. You're like, that's interesting. then later you're like, oh, that's way more interesting now. But I remember back in the second time I recorded with Andrew Bustamante back in, well, we recorded the end of June 2022. He was saying in that podcast, he said a line, you know, he worked at CIA.

It definitely still does, by the way. You know, and he was like, we need an enemy. I was like, what do you mean by that? He's like, we need an enemy that we can all agree and coalesce around because that's something that will actually unify people. and get away from some bullshit. And that's one place where I look at the timeline now. And then I'm like, you know, he says that in June. He's starting to put that out there.

And then, you know, you get the Kanye shit in fall 2022. You get October 7th in fall 2023. You get everyone talking about this. And suddenly everyone's just talking about Israel and all that. And you're like, hmm, is some of that again, like on the five. Yeah, some of that very intentional. Yes, I think largely, so people start speaking out about it so they can institute these hate speech laws and have a legitimate framework for doing that. Because again, do you understand what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah. Because like, again, you see this all around the world. It's like their typical like problem, reaction solution playbook where if they can say enough people are sewing hate and are being conspiratizing and are being anti-Semitic, they will use that to. crush legitimate political discourse. Some people are so fed up that they're not being very tactful with the way that they explain the problem. And I don't blame them, honestly, because it is so patently obvious that sometimes you just want to double down and say some pretty harsh things. And then on the other hand, you have people who are a little bit more polished and a little bit more political and are presenting the issue is what it is. But either way, we're talking about the same thing.

But the conversation is becoming so prevalent that now they're pushing harder than ever to push these hate speech laws in 38 states around the U.S. And this is the country that's meant to be about free speech. Like I told you, I haven't been back to Australia in 10 years. Oh, you've never gone back once. No. Oh, I didn't realize that. At first it was just merely because it's like a long flight, expensive, whatever. But like, I couldn't go back now because there are people who are being arrested for far more benign things than the stuff that I espouse on on podcasts like this or on my own show or even the event that I tried to organize just last weekend, right?

Well, we're blatantly calling out the issue for what it is in long form to extend. I mean, there's fathers in Australia who've been arrested for 40 second speeches on Australia Day. where they say that Israel is not the greatest ally, it's the greatest enemy. Arrested. Behind bars. Yes, behind bars. There was a woman who was arrested for a political t-shirt

that said from the river to the sea. That's it. She wore it to a protest. She said nothing else. She was arrested. Joel Davis, there's so many different examples of people who've actually been put behind bars that are being criminally prosecuted.

And now the burden of, approval, the standard of proof in Australia is simply you say something that instills fear inside of a Jewish person. Not direct, you know, harm or threat to their well-being. But subjective. Something that purely instills fear in them. And obviously, who's the arbiter of that? Right. I mean, it's not your average Australian person. Australians can put up with a lot, okay? We have a saying, we call it taking the piss, we make fun of each other a lot, we tease each other a lot, what Americans would call roasting. It's a roasting culture, okay? But if you even instill fear inside of a Jewish person, you can be put behind bars for five years. So I agree with you here in the

US, a lot of the, I agree with you here in the US, a lot of the drama that's being stirred up, both sides of the political aisle, calling out the same issue, albeit maybe using slightly different words in different ways, some more extreme than others. It's becoming so prevalent that they're going to say we have a rampant issue with anti-Semitism and that then gives them justification to actually enforce the hate speech law. So they've already instituted. A lot of these are passed, by the way.

They're just not being enforced at scale. But like Florida is one of the worst, Ohio is one of the worst, and then there's another 36 states in total. But once they click that on button and they say, okay, now you're being prosecuted for this legitimately. They just need justification in order to be able to do that. They need the sentiment to be not just like simmering but boiling over. Are you talking about the BDS laws specifically?

Yeah. So that's like if you're a business that refuses to do business with Israel or something like that, what can happen? What are these laws like? Yeah. So basically it's there's things that affect businesses, but it's even on an individual level. For example, if you speak out about the state of Israel, you're ineligible to get a green card in a lot of these states.

Like they're blocking immigration from people who actually want to spend real money. Like, honestly, like, I'm kind of scared for that. I'm not a full citizen yet. Like, I don't know if I could be necessarily criminally prosecuted, but I could have this whole life that I've built taken away just for speaking out about this subject. But yeah, absolutely, you're not, you're not allowed to, um, to speak negatively about Israel. Otherwise, the government, they have legitimate reasons to boycott your business, not do business with you, and to basically come off to your livelihood.

But if I say, you know, fuck France. That's fine. I'm good. Yeah. Fuck the French. I like France. Great place. But if I said that, I'm good.

Listen, you can, here's the thing. You can love. It's a lot place, Adam. Come on. I believe it. Listen, you can love your conscience. and not love your government. There's nothing wrong with that.

Of course. You should be able to criticize your government. And the issue is now you can actually criticize the American government more than the Israeli government as an American. And there's less repercussions for criticizing our own president than criticizing Bibi Netanyahu. Like what the heck? Which, by the way, could we pull this up, Thief? Bibi Netanyahu was elected with like 27% of the vote in Israel, which was like the orthodox

which was like the orthodox vote and like the hardcore like right wing vote you and I were talking before camera shortly before october 7th they were on the brink of civil war yeah because people were in the streets while he took control of the fucking courts yeah to be and changed the constitution effectively or was trying to do it to get him out of office and now there is there's protests in Tel Aviv I believe oh yes they're asking for inquiries into October 7th which is awesome yeah awesome to hear that because there's been a lot of of Israelis who were around that that day, testifying on that publicly in front of, I don't know if it's all like Knesset. I've seen some videos where it's people associated with Knesset,

but I don't want to say officially because it's not in front of me. But they've been talking about like the stand-down order and stuff like that. You know, every fucking powerful country in this world does false flag sheds. Yeah. So you need to ask the question. But this is literally last week, you and I were talking about this, all these people out in the streets. Yeah. Demanding the inquiry, just like you said, yeah, inquiry into the events of October 7th, which great for them. And that's what I mean. Like, shout out to the Israelis who want this.

Yes. Like, it's common sense. Exactly. I was talking with a guy. I'm not going to say who it was because it was off the record. But someone who's been really connected to events over there in the last few years who's not Israeli at all, but has spent a lot of time around Israelis. And this was the one thing he said when he was talking about some of the things where he's come out and made some pretty strong statements, a lot of people in the Knesset. have come to him and been like, brother, you are brave.

How can we help? Wow. And he's like, what do you mean? Just fucking say something. They're like, no, no, we can't do that. How can we support you though? I'm like, holy shit, it's that, it's that like. It's that level.

Yeah, 100%. Dude, Charlie Kirk, who is one of the biggest proclaimed like Israel loyalists, right? Literally is on record on PBD podcast in 2020. Over 12. asking, was there a stand-down order? I have been to Israel. It takes 40 minutes to get to the Gaza border via helicopter, and they let this thing carry out for hours and hours and hours.

Like, make it make sense. And you're absolutely right. False flags do happen all over the world. I personally believe that the Bondi Beach shooting in Australia, I believe that was a false flag, because this five-year prison sentence that I'm talking about, that comes from instilling fear in Jewish people, that came about directly after the Bondi beat shooting.

And so, you know. No, I believe you, it could certainly be that. Do we have, like, evidence to support that? There is circumstantial evidence. I would say that the one guy, his name is like Armin, you said his name earlier. Arsinooski, yes. So he's a top 50 Zionist strategist in the entire world, okay?

He literally has it in his bios on all of his social media. So my question, what are you strategizing, sir? He literally survived October 7th as well as the Bondi beat shooting. Like just the mere percentile chance of being in those two attacks and surviving them both within a close proximity is very minuscule. Like extremely low. Like I wouldn't say impossible, but highly, highly improbable. And then when you add to the fact that he was literally. on the floor, taking a selfie after getting shot with the caption saying, they're attacking the

Jews again. Yeah, that's not what I'm thinking to do while I'm getting attacked. Yes. I mean, that's not a natural human like reflex when you're going through something like that, right? And then again, like he literally has in his bio, he's a strategist. I mean, maybe take that out of your bio if you know what people to connect the dots. But immediately after that, they instituted the hate speech laws. Now, maybe it's a coincidence.

There's also that saying, you know, never waste a crisis. Also, a false flag doesn't mean that people didn't actually die, that the whole thing was, like, faked and set up. People can die in false flag attacks, you know. But there is a large possibility that there were people who carried this out with the agenda to actually push through these hate speech laws. Or maybe the Australian government was just waiting for the perfect moment to click the on button. don't waste a crisis. Either way, you know, there's an agenda that they want to fulfill, and they will fulfill that by any means necessary,

whether they orchestrate that or not, or they're patiently waiting for something to justify what they want to enact. Yeah, you have to ask questions like that when it's so perfectly correlated. It doesn't mean that's what it is, but, you know, you make a good point, no matter what, if there's some sort of crisis or event that can be taken care of, where they can get something through, they'll do it. I mean, look at everything we did after 9-11 in this country. Well, we, the fucking government did after 9-11.

And that's another thing. You see Trump asking for the FISA 702 now, and he's like, I'm willing to give up a little bit of my safety to make sure we're, a little bit of my freedoms to make sure we're safe. It's like, Malacca, there's literally a fucking quote from Benjamin Franklin that says anyone who would sacrifice a little bit of liberty for safety deserves neither. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?

That's the benefit of America. We are a free country. If you want to sacrifice that, then quite frankly, that is un-American to me. Yeah. Yeah. And that was another thing. Like, there's always been like this major gun debate in America and all that. Seeing the stuff, forget here, seeing the stuff in Australia.

Yeah. During the height of COVID is what really put. me over the top with like, yeah, we got to protect that second moment. Oh, 100%. Like it, because you just see, like you said, a disarmed country and they got no power against any type of totalitarianism. Yeah. And like I'm just saying if I were trying to study a future police state in America from

like Palantir or something like that, I'd have been test harvesting all over fucking Australia. Yeah. It's literally called the test kitchen of the world. That's where they test a lot of these very dystopian policies. digital ID is another one. I'm not sure if you're familiar, but like, so Thomas Massey and a few of the good politicians in our Congress actually spoke out about real ID, which is something that's been implemented

in the US because it's the first step towards digital ID. How far? Because basically it's just it, so digital ID in Australia basically incorporates everything about yourself. So like you're all of your your your your medical records, your driving records, like everything it's all implemented into one singular ID and they sell it as convenience saying, well, you don't need to, for example, when you're applying for a house, upload multiple verification documents and this and that because it's all digitized inside of this one central ID. And so they're pitching it as this thing that you can use for safety. But this is the first

step, for example, that was implemented in communist China before they implemented their social credit system. If you say anything that the government doesn't like, doesn't approve of, then all of a sudden they can switch off your access to funds, to travel, to be able to do anything that you would usually use your ID for. I truly believe that Australia actually is going to be the first country that actually resembles communist China in everything other than name. and they will implement something of a social credit system where you're penalized for actions that you take or do not take, basically, against the government.

And it's a way to keep everybody subservient. How do, forget the United States for a minute and other places, at this point, how does Australia stop something like that happening? Honestly, for a long time, I kind of thought that we were cooked and it really wasn't worth talking about but what we're starting to see in Australia is mass protests occurring. There was something called

the March for Australia where tens of thousands, maybe hundreds, we can look it up, took to the streets and they protested this along with the rampant illegal immigration because the two actually go hand in hand if you allow me to back up for a minute

and kind of explain. I see what's happening in Australia as kind of like a multifaceted approach. So number one, they're implementing all of these dystopian policies, such as their digital ID system, such as their speech laws, really dystopian policies to control people. Number two, they're also importing the third world and creating rampant illegal immigration

to the point where it is overwhelming our social security system to the point where there's crimes like that here in the U.S. where, you know, there is murders and there's rapes, there's terrible things happening. And I believe they're trying to make the problem so bad when it comes to illegal immigration that eventually Australians are going to call out for a solution. Help me, please, daddy government. And then they'll enact their problem reaction solution playbook. Okay, now we have the digital ID, which can be utilized as a social credit score.

Okay, now we're going to press the on button and we're going to enable. this for everybody, not just if you're in the private sector, but in the public sector as well for absolutely everyone and they're going to use it as a guise to get rid of the illegal immigrants. They already did this in the UK. Actually, Kia Stam is said by 2030, every single person needs to have a digital ID, otherwise you won't be able to work. And he pitched it as an idea to kick out all of the illegal immigrants. And Australia is going to do a very similar thing. Australia is like, little brother to the UK, but also because it's on an island and kind of isolated. Again, it's the test kitchen.

They can do all types of crazy shit out there. They sent all their prisoners there. Yeah, exactly. We're a country made of convicts, basically. Yeah. So he really, by 2030, you won't be able to get a job in the UK. Yep. You need a digital ID to be able to work.

And it's probably going to be quicker than that. He probably just announced that to kind of be the prelude, to get everybody activated, to get them looking to do that. There's been protests in the UK as well. Again, going back to your question, what can people do? It's difficult in disarm civilizations like the UK or like Australia because we don't have a mass defense against tyranny. That's largely what our Second Amendment is for to defend against a tyrannical government.

No such thing exists in Australia and in the UK. So all they can really do is protest, take to the streets, and make enough noise that hurt. Hopefully, somebody listens or somebody steps up. Who's this jerk off thief? Yeah, but who is this guy? That's not Kirstarmer. Yeah, and Kirstama said it.

Is that the Spanish guy? No. It's not the Spain PM, is it? Let's play. Let's play. In our countries, no one can walk the streets with a mask on their face or drive a car without a license plate. No one can send.

packages without showing an ID or buy a hunting weapon without giving their name. And yet, we are allowing people to roam freely on social networks without linking their profiles to a real identity. Dispaving the way for misinformation, hate speech and cyber harassment. Because it is facilitating the use of bots. And it is allowing people. to act without being held accountable for their actions. Such an anomaly cannot continue. In a democracy, citizens have the right to privacy. So actually, this is interesting to bring up

because it's related to what you're saying. It was the Kirstarmor thing. But it's another thing you hear a lot of these guys, whether it be the WEF or the literal world leaders when they're out talking on their fucking stumps, talking about online and policing misinformation with respect to bot campaigns and propaganda and stuff like that. Now, this is where it gets complicated too,

because I'm of the opinion, you have to let everything out there and let the best speech win as painful as that is when it includes stuff that is completely not real. Yeah. Because we're not dealing with like the old days where it's a bunch of people talking face-to-face in a public square. Yeah.

We're now dealing with what he's pointing out there, which is behind a keyboard. To me, when I hear stuff like that, like we have to police bots for he said, misinformation, very 1984 word, hate speech, also a very 1984-ish type term. Because of these bot campaigns for propaganda, he is dressing up a Trojan horse with something that does look like an actual threat and said, yeah, yeah, we'll just do this. And then the whole city, Troy, get sacked after that.

Yeah, I mean, if you believe in free speech, that means protecting speech that you don't like from sources that you don't know or sources that you do not agree with. because by that same token, it could be speech that you believe in the next day or the next year or 10 years from now, right? You gave the example when we're talking before. They could literally turn that into, okay, now it's illegal to talk about God or your belief in God, right? So it's a very slippery slope and we need to treat it like that. And we need to protect all speech, including speech that we don't like and don't agree with 100%. I just don't understand how people get like that.

how people actually get to the point where, you know, they get elected in this position by their fellow people. Yeah. And they start talking like that. Like what switch happens to where it's like, yeah, now this is the way to go? I don't know. Well, they say like absolute power corrupts absolutely. So it could be a little bit of that. Or it could be that it was a part of an agenda to begin with that these people were funded and not necessarily installed.

It appears as if they were elected democratically. But they had all of the money from the people. who want to instill these policies backing them, the establishment endorsements backing them from, you know, and these establishment endorsements are influenced by the same people who want to enact these policies. And so when they're put in power, they feel obligated, right? They're subservient.

They're at the behest of somebody else and not their constituents, which is a massive problem everywhere in our Congress. I think there's maybe, I don't even know what the number is, like less than a quarter of the Congress who don't take any money from a foreign nation when this literally, this used to be considered treason. Yeah. And now it's just normal.

It's crazy. Treason used to be punishable by death and now it's commonplace. Well, we've legalized. Yeah. That's the problem. It's insane. They're not breaking the law doing it. Yeah.

And so how do we fix that? You know, in my opinion, it's by installing genuine America First candidates who can infiltrate the system because a third party really isn't viable, anyone who, who's tried to do it in the past has realistically failed. But I think it's either by infiltration of the parties or while you're attempting to infiltrate, you prepare. And if the system collapses under its own corruption, then you pose the viable solution. You know, if there's civil war or civil unrest, which it's sad to say that doesn't seem

impossible. Maybe it's not likely, but it doesn't seem impossible that something like that could happen with the fury that people have towards the government and the people who are meant to be serving them. Yeah, I would very much like to think we'd never get anywhere near that point. I always try to pull back on that. I do feel like if there were going to be a moment where that would have happened, it would have been like during the COVID era when people were actually fully blown at home, like restless, getting pissed off and like shit got bad to be very clear.

Yeah. But at the end of the day, a lot of people, they're keyboard warriors. Yeah. They ain't like that in the streets. But again, they still had more freedom than places like Australia and these other places. Do you think if it got as bad as what it was in Australia with COVID camps, full tyranny, literally can't leave your house, literally can't see your family members. Family members were dying in the hospitals unable to see their next of kin because of COVID restrictions and died alone.

Yeah, it's horrible. What you're talking about is revolution. That's not civil war. Yeah. That would be where you would see a massive unification of people, regardless of. political beliefs, you'd see the dude in the nom hat and the chick in the pink hair with a nose ring fighting on the same side. Yeah.

Yes. Yes. I do think if things got to such a dystopian extent, for sure. I can see that. And I think that's why we got to stop that. And it's like the thing about even like a cure stormer, I agree with you, it's probably in that he's just fucking funded into where kingdom come at this point to say whatever he's got to say. But like the dude's always saying the biggest strong man things like that around.

around the world these days are the weakest people. Like he's a very weak man. Yeah. Like that dude isn't lasting in the ring with anybody. You don't even know how to put his hands up. Yeah. You know, but yet he's out here like, we're gonna digital idea you and know everything you do.

And if you do anything wrong, you won't ever have a- Fuck you, bro. How do they say that in fucking Britain? Fuck off. Piss off, yeah. 100%. But again, they don't have, They don't have weapons to fight back, to even threaten to create a revolution.

If it didn't get to civil war to even threaten to have a revolution because they don't have weapons. We don't have that problem here, though. We don't. We don't. But I mean, there are people who are trying to infringe on the First and Second Amendment. Second Amendment for a long time, specifically on the left with all types of regulations and restrictions on gun laws. But now with the attack on the First Amendment, it's getting a little bit diverted. The first of them and I worry about. Yeah. It's getting very dicey.

If we get to the point where people in America are being arrested for tweets, I mean, did you hear about the girl who actually got arrested in Florida for making a joke about Netanyahu? Like she didn't want to take her test at the university. She's like, Netanyahu, please come or something like that. She got arrested. Now, probably not the best thing to say, but clearly a joke. And she is being criminally prosecuted to a larger extent than people. extent than people who are actually dropping bombs on behalf of Israel and murdering millions

of people, hundreds of thousands of people, at least, and trying to ethnically cleanse and genocide an entire civilization. And where do you draw the line on this? There's that kid who's been going viral basically, like in the sunglasses in his car going Benjamin Netanyahu, my wife is near having a nuclear bomb. Do what must be done. Exactly. It's like, all right, we can arrest that kid too?

Right, exactly. Oh my God. It's dicey. It's real dicey. I genuinely believe that over the next two years, there is a higher possibility for real political change than what we've seen in decades, in decades. And it's, again, mostly driven by a fear paradigm.

But fear can be a great motivator. It truly can be. I know that for a fact, because that's why I'm sitting here having these conversations. That's why I talk about what I talk about on my podcast. I get more views when I just dunk on feminists and talk about the feminism issue. I'll get 10 times more views on a video like that, truly,

than me sitting here talking about America first and Israeli occupation, infiltrating our government, about a genocide in Gaza. I get way more views and way less pushback when I just talk about the sexual revolution and the destruction of the modern family and blah, blah, blah. And that's important to talk about too. But I feel like I have a moral obligation to speak about this issue because not enough people are.

When enough people do, maybe I'll take a step back and I'll freaking chill. I prefer that. I want to have a family. I just got married like two months ago. Congratulations, Bo. Thank you. I want to have like three kids.

I want to dedicate my time to raising them and not feel like the weight of the country rests on my shoulders and the shoulders of other people who are speaking up. If we get enough people doing that, then maybe I wouldn't have to talk about this stuff. And I'm not like trying to pretend like everything I say makes such a big difference.

It doesn't, but we all have our part to play. Right. Again, if we operate with the mentality that nothing's going to change or that someone else will do it so we don't need to do it, then nothing will change. It's a very simple concept. I think it's more. I would rather see a system where the current system we have of the major donors of the elite class who control our politicians, I'd rather accept the idea that the people who run for office suck but know the people control them versus those interests. that would be a win for me because I've just seen again and again

how low how much politicians of all wings of the feather will disappoint you and again maybe this is leaning towards the cynicism and I'll accept that criticism but like if there were a way to make sure that they were actually fearful of the blowback of the people

like I saw there's and I don't know anything about it yet we're going to look into this tomorrow and probably talk about this weekend on the episode Deep and I do but like there's like this data center argument right now out in Utah where Kevin O'Leary is trying to build some fucking 60 square mile or something. I don't even know.

I don't know any details yet. But I watched this local, you know, community meeting with the politicians where you had angry people, righteously so, it seems like, I don't know, a thousand of them, two thousand of them in an auditorium. And the politician sat there and still did the opposite of what they wanted because they don't fear the people. Yeah. We need to be whatever we could do to get it in a position to where the politicians fear the people and not just some fucking elites paying them.

Mm-hmm. That I'll get behind. But, okay, I hear you. The data Senate issue is really big because it's going to destroy heritage sites around the country. Not only that. You know, it does take a good amount of employees to build them, but after it only takes like 120 something to be able to sustain them to be employed there. so it doesn't contribute meaningfully to the economy. And then also, data sentence are a form of surveillance.

They're ultimately surveillance centers as well. So there is a bunch of different things that are wrong with them. And the average everyday person doesn't want them in their state. A lot of these America First candidates are also running on blocking those as well. Like, yes, you can have the power of the people on your side, but what does that matter when there isn't anyone in office to actually represent what the people are saying? That's fair. Yeah, that's very fair.

But I'm also like if it were in a position where people had, when people campaign, they have to campaign on what the people want to try to win. Now, whether or not they then put that into practice is a separate question. Right. But the people you're talking about, even if they're doing it for the wrong reasons, then that's great that they're campaigning on what clearly the constituents that they're going to be trying to win over could all agree on from the left to right. All right, we don't want these data centers. Cool. I'm going to put that in my campaign. Now follow through on it.

Yeah. And when they get in there, you have to wonder like these other people, with Deep Pocket. So they're going to pay them off and then they kick the can down the curb or down the road and that's a possibility. Change up and you have to wonder about that and that's where you keep them accountable. But I agree with that point. I do think, I think about the whole like platform thing a little bit differently at least.

And I don't think there's like a rule with this or anything. I think everyone has a different idea of like what they want to do with their shows or whatever their content is. But like for me, I don't want people to. to like listen to my opinions and be like, you know what, Julian said that, so I'm going to do that. I think that's a huge trap. Like, you know, I'm a YouTuber. It's like I said, it's not that serious. But like, I'll give some opinions on certain things.

And I think we have to live in a time now where people can then decide on things at home for themselves and feel like they're making their own decision. I think we had a long period there where even if we didn't realize it, that went away because so many things were just thrown in it. I can think of so many examples of things. I just accepted in my life that I'm like, now I'm like, wait, I really thought that? Right. What the fuck did I think that? Because it's reinforced. And I mean, think about it.

When you want to do research on these things, where do you go? A lot of people rely on AI now, right? These different AI models, like, I'm sure you've had the experience where you're trying to, like, research the genocide in Gaza or research the way that APA, how much money is APAC given to these politicians? And you're met with, like, this sterilized answer that either says, like, oh, you know, you're wrong because of this, or it flat out refuses to answer you, or it tells you that you're being racist and anti-Semitic.

There's literally no AI platform. Aside from one, have you heard of it uncensored AI? I don't think so, no. So this is literally the only AI model where you can ask these questions, and it'll give you real legitimate answers. But of course, you know, it's a startup. It doesn't have a lot of backing behind it for obvious reasons, because it's anti-establishment.

It goes against the narrative. but it's very difficult to get actual answers from an AI model and people have become so lazy. They don't really do their own research. They default to using AI. GROC was, you know, okay for a minute there, but even GROC and X now are starting to hide things and conceal things. Oh, really? Yeah, dude, there's posts on X that are literally like so benign, but it'll blur out an entire

picture or an entire post that you literally need to click, show me the post. And then it's nothing. It's like, it's someone talking about like BDS laws or like showing, you know, a picture from a bombing in Gaza that's not super graphic or super violent, but it'll block it out anyway just to prevent you from seeing it. Like the censorship on all of these platforms is insane and people are so lazy. They're really not capable of doing much of their own research themselves. That's a sigh up within itself. We have been conditioned to be that lazy. We have so much oversimulation.

We're all addicted to dopamine, right? It's difficult to sit down and concentrate and actually research certain topics. So I agree with you. People do need to look into things themselves, but the system itself has made it very difficult to do that. But I got to give a shout out to uncensoreded AI. It's literally the only AI that I've ever used that actually allows me to do real research and answers me. A couple of different guys.

There's one guy called JD. His last name escapes me right now. Vance? No, no. Not Vance, not Vance, certainly not Jady Vance. That would be Peter Thiel, but... No, it's not that one. Is it? Uncensored.com?

I think it's uncensored.com? I think it's uncensored.aI actually. Okay, let's get the right one. There you go, scroll down, uncensored AI. It has the blue logo there. Yeah, that's the one. Wow, they're getting, they're getting flanked on Google. Yeah. With some fucking... Other one called uncensored. That's interesting.

So it's uncensored. Got AI people. Make sure you're using the right one. Yeah, it's also, it's available on the app in Google Place. Literally my first time using this, I uninstalled or canceled my chat GPT membership. I was like, I do. It's a little, it's a tiny bit clunky on the app store because they're still developing it. But I would rather deal with slight clunkiness and get real answers than, you know, be told I'm a racist anti-Semite for asking the most basic of questions. Well, that scares the shit out of it.

What you're stepping on right now for all of it scares the shit out of me with AI. Because now you're dealing with, even if it's like before sentience and all that, you're dealing with machines that are operating on a level what they think should be human and then get to decide what's coded into them. Yeah. What is acceptable for humans. Yeah. And that, like, we had one last year.

Remember this, Steve? When the Elon Trump-Empstein thing happened? And we were, yeah, with Google. A.I. We got it on video. Oh, yeah? Where the first search we did like Jeff Bezos, any connections to Jeffrey Epstein? And Google AI was like, absolutely not. There are no links whatsoever. It's fake news for Jeffrey Epstein and Jeff Bezos. And I was like, what the fuck? I know. Wait, hold on a minute. I know we knew this thing or whatever. Right. And so then we went to take a video and we Googled it again and changed the answer. What? Yeah, they were listening. I have it on video.

Yo, that's crazy. That was absolutely nuts because I'm like, Dief, we just watched in fucking real time. That scares me. You know what? What scares me even more with that is like you hear people talking about even, maybe not with a tone of seriousness, but like Joe Rogan talking about how he feels like AI governance is going to be the next step, that we need an AI. something that is impartial, fact-based, etc. to lead people and not be subservient to foreign

interests or other interests. But that leaves the question, who programs the AI? This isn't out of the realm of possibility either. It's already in Albania. You've heard about the, is it their finance minister? If you could look it up in Albania, they actually have an AI governance system. Yeah, I think it's the finance minister or something. Please fact checked me. Fact check me. Albania. All right, let's archive.com. Albania. You ever see this trick? No.

This is the Mike Ben's trick. Oh, okay, to get through firewalls, nice. Okay. Albania created an AI minister to curb corruption. Then its developers were accused of graft. The Albanian avatar known as Diella, a public anti-corruption crusader, has been described as the world's first government minister

created by artificial intelligence. It's crazy, dude. She was really cool. It was so funny. when they announced this in their like parliament house, the politicians got so pissed off. They were like throwing things. They were so bad.

It's so fucking sinister that they, it says wearing traditional garb and enigmatic style, Dialla has become the face of Prime Minister Eddie Rama's efforts to rein in graft as Albania seeks to join the European Union. All right, go up, Dief. I need to see a picture of this fucking chick again. Come on! That's cultural appropriation.

That's crazy. It actually is crazy though. It really is. Look, they even did like the fucking hand thing. Where she's like the fucking genie in a bottle. Like, yes, you will listen to me. That's nuts. But so it's not out of the realm of possibility.

This is obviously already happened in Albania. And Joe Rogan has mentioned probably now dozens of times. And in recent times, too, that he feels like the next step is genuinely going to be an AI president. An AI president. Yes. I haven't heard of say that. Joe Rogan has said this on multiple occasions now. Iron said the AI God thing.

No, he said we need an AI president. He said we need it? Yeah, you look up a clip. Yeah, exactly. He didn't say we need it. Yeah, he did. He said that we should vote for a president perplexity and he wasn't just joking.

He laid out a full case for- He wasn't joking about that? No, he's-oh, I need to see this. No, 100%. The prospect- This is two years ago. Yeah. Now, get a clip on Twitter.

Who was it? Was it with? Dave Smith? Yeah. And he had some other, it's been like every other episode for the past couple of months. I did a video on it recently. Yeah. He's been.

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. I don't like that at all. And he's one of the top comment, like the top commentator, the top podcaster in the US, if not the world. And he's been feathering this in like ever so slightly. What did Dave say to that? He said, because obviously the state of everything with the Iran war, Dave literally said at this point, I would be down to try it. Oh, no.

Oh no, Dave, don't say that. Yeah, I don't know if he was being hyperbolic. Dave, I'm going to ask Dave about that when he's here. Please do, please do. I hope this is just like out of context. Go up a little bit. I think it's the second clip right there. You can try that.

Okay. Let's, don't make it full screen deef. Just leave it right there. We're reacting to a video that's pertinent to what we're saying. This is within fair use policies. Please don't de monetize me fucking YouTube AI. I don't know if this is actually it, though. inside of trading now

all right Joe Rogan he's also sponsored by perplexity which is interesting but he's saying that this isn't part of me if I can we turn his mic on by the way we got Daniel on here yeah so hey so it's interesting

because he's sponsored by perplexity and I find that to be a little bit compelling but yeah he was basically oh my gosh hold on yeah I have it on my YouTube

and I can give you the time code for it. He was basically saying that he thinks that it's the evolution of how government should go. He's saying... To move to AI. Yes. He's saying that maybe it's not a bad thing and he's like maybe this is just the way that it should happen.

And he kind of implemented it all by saying that like autism is about 1 in 12 now in California whereas 1 in 10,000. It's 240. And he's like, what if... What if autism isn't... necessarily like a side effect, but maybe it's the evolution for what's coming next. No, no, no, no. Okay, let's see this. Great screen grab of me. Oh, he said it with Tim, he said it with Tim Dylan.

No, no, no. Tim Dylan was also was also commenting on this on his show. Yeah, he was joking about it on his show when Melania brought out the Tesla bot. Okay, yeah. All right, let's see, let's see this. Human governance. Talking about a AI president. Yeah. That you need a president that is immune to immune to bias, corruption, influence, and someone who just looks at things rationally and in an intelligent way that spans all the disciplines. Like, how could any president really be an expert in foreign policy, the environment, economics, social justice, immigration?

It's not possible. And voices like Tim Dillon have actually gone a step further, suggesting that systemic collapse may not be accidental, but functionally useful in pushing society towards something entirely new. People are meant to lose faith in all government. Is that what this time is? And that is where AI stops being a tool. Real quick.

Because I haven't seen this. Mm-hmm. Was he talking in the context of like, this is an argument people have made? Tim Dylan? No, no, no. I know where Tim Dylan is on that side. I ain't got to look at that one.

Was Joe Rogan talking about this in the context of what people who have argued for that are making the argument around? Or was he saying it in the context of like, I think this should happen? He pulled all the clips. Two years ago when he was with Reggie Watts, it's the most popular thing when you look up Joe Rogan, AI president. He was saying that people are talking about this. Right now, he's saying that he thinks it's a good idea. And he thinks it's the evolution of where it should go. We're cooked.

Not good. That's an L take, Joe. That's an LL take. Listen, do human beings have severe fucking flaws? Yes, we all do. Are there going to be losses in the system and horrible stories that happen because evil people or people just make a bad decision that affects other? Yes. And it sucks.

I don't think it's a controversial thing to say the totalitarian fucking machine overlords opposite is not a good idea. Yeah, 100%. Because even if you get it to a point where it is like honest to an extent on like public discourse, what if the prevailing public discourse

is actually so far in the opposite direction what you're saying are like the more extreme takes from what like people like Dan Bolzerian have said, etc. We actually know someone, a developer her at X-A-I, who is responsible for Mecca Hitler. For what? When Grok went off the rails, do you remember this? So we know the developer who's actually responsible for that.

That's horrible, but that was funny. What was Grog saying? He was like, oh, you're noticing. Yeah. Like, Grog was saying some very extreme things, but basically, sir, our friend was working with, like, he had a web team of people. who didn't do, didn't get their work done in time, so they copied off this one individual who we know.

And basically he just allowed it to fully take in all the feedback that was coming in off X. And X at the time, its sentiment was very anti-Israel, anti-Zionism. And he clicked in on button. His colleagues copied his work because they were behind. And then the next day you had Mechah Hitler. Yeah, there was like, there was like, wasn't it saying like, and yes, before you ask, he is.

like shit like that. I was like, oh my God. This is meant to govern us? Like, no. Absolutely. Like, how is AI meant to be impartial? To the point that Joe Rogan's trying to make. Like, I just, I don't see it as something that's realistic.

So. I agree. By the way, I said I would get that video just to show you I'm not fucking bullshitting on this. This was last June. Can we see this on camera, Deif? All right. Defe and I just filmed a Patreon episode where we were reacting to the whole Epstein tweet yesterday that Elon sent out about Trump.

And while we were recording it, there was like a connection to Jeff Bezos that came up. And so Deep Googles it. And this is what it shows on Google AI. You are asking about a connection between Jeff Bezos and Jeffrey Epstein. Information that relates to private individuals, that relates private individuals to sensitive events is not available. Mm-hmm.

So, now, Dave, we just Googled it afterwards. after we talked about it. Mm-hmm. Google AI is like listening to us. And what does it say now? Full explanation. Because we were just talking about how crazy this fucking search result was. Wow.

Like that's a fourth. They're listening. It always says that. It says you're asking about information pertaining to a private citizen. So therefore I cannot answer. A private citizen who fucking controls half the internet. Right. Exactly.

I mean, when you're a public person, whether that's in government or social media or anything else when you've made your life public, I'm sorry. Like, that isn't a good enough answer. They're a private citizen. I can't give you a direct answer on that. That's crazy. Yeah. Like if you put, and that's, it's just a part of like,

have it, choosing a career where you're in the public sphere. I can't be like, oh, I don't like the people out there don't like me. Yeah. Kick them off the internet. Right. What the fuck? No, it's that you let everyone talk about it. You get hate and you just, you need to deal with it and you need to grow some thick skin.

Yes. You know, I've been doing this for, a little while now. I have grown very adept at tolerating it. My husband is a little bit newer to the online space. So he gets a little bit more upset when people come from me. That's also that defensive hobby nature in him. God bless him for it. I appreciate it. But yeah, I've grown thick skin. I literally don't care. Sometimes you may need to take a day off X or something, but it just comes with the territory. Yeah. Do you want to talk about the AI porn thing? Yeah. Yeah, let's bring it. That was crazy. You want to. Oh, I mean. Up to you, but.

I don't necessarily want people to go looking for it, but whatever, I guess. We don't have to talk about it. We can take that. Just like in response to this event that we ran where we tried to unify the left and right over the topics of foreign interests hijacking our government that we don't like the way that Trump handled the Epstein files and we object to the war in Iran. I gathered candidates and influences together from both sides who agree on these things. We hosted an event.

And there were a lot of people who didn't like it. And they made a bunch of AI porn of me and spread it all throughout X. So yeah, AI is a crazy thing. That's nuts. She was saying how she has super thick skin. Even pertaining to this particular thing, she was okay. I personally think that this is egregious, that this is terrible. They were making pictures of me being hung and dead and doing terrible things to her.

They were making animated things. That's one thing. Could take that as a death threat. I'll take it as a goof. Yeah. The AI porn thing, from what I know, it's a felony and it's illegal. Yeah. And people are doing it.

Now, I reported it to X three days ago. So far, it is still up. It's not down yet. I want to take it to the authorities. I want to get this person prosecuted. You were saying how this, we don't know when this episode will come out. We'll give you an update on this and how easy that. process would have been. I think this person needs to be made an example because this is not okay at all.

That's not. To be clear, it's not free speech. It's not free speech. And just because she's a public figure, it doesn't make it okay. She's, again, has thick skin. She's cool. I looked at her and I was like, if this happened to her daughter, what would be your energy here? That's where I'm at right now. I'm like, this is my wife. I'm not going to allow these fake images, videos to circulate of her doing things that are, it's just, it's not okay. And so we'll see if the authorities can do anything about this at all, because it is an anonymous account. We'll see if they have access to be able to get into AI and figure out who this is, because this is a crime. Melania did the Take It Down Act, right, which is specifically pertaining to, I believe,

revenge porn, but also AI porn that people make and being able to criminally prosecute for that. It was one of Melania Trump's initiatives that I actually really support. You should. Yeah. Yeah. And we also know somebody that was in a group chat with a bunch of these characters where this was getting spread around with the intention to boost it. To boost the to bookmark it, like it, share it, make sure that this thing gets out. Just that group chat is illegal as well.

Again. I'm not going after them. I just want the guy that made it and posted it. Again, Julian, rather not be talking about this stuff because crazy things happen. You get AI porn spread of you. You get people talking about you. You get death threats. You could possibly be kicked out of the country for exercising your right to free speech,

which is a founding, you know, principle of this country. But it's not easy when you do try to speak out and they comment you from every which way. So yeah, I again, back to what was saying earlier, I would rather not be doing it for various reasons. But even when stuff like this happens. Saying like, hey, look at this and then replied to it three hours afterward, tagging me again. But even when stuff like this happens, again, you can't let it silence you because they're going to try to use every single tactic available to them to intimidate you, to scare you, to disgust you, to try to embarrass you, to tarnish your name. And you just need to keep persevering. Because, again, somebody's got to do it.

We need enough brave people to step up and keep speaking the truth unapologetically. It's the only way we're ever going to be able to enact real change. We just, we have to keep going and we need to persevere. Well, good for you. I'm sorry that happening, you guys. That's, I mean, like, that's just. It happens, apparently. This is 2006.

We're in the digital age. And what's scary is I feel like we've only scratched the surface when it comes to this AI thing. Like, look at how much we've advanced in the last 10 years compared to the last 100. What do you think is going to happen over the next 10? You know, we think that the idea of an AI president is so outlandish and crazy and out of reach, they already have an AI minister in Albania,

top podcaster of this entire country, if not the world, is almost normalizing it with his rhetoric and the things that he's discussing on his platform. Like, who knows what's possible in the next 10 years? That's, yeah. That I just, I cannot emphasize enough how crazy of an idea that is. That's the scariest thing you've said today. It's a bad idea.

For sure. It's a really bad idea. It's like, you know, and we have, like, I remember we were assigned like animal farm in fucking seventh grade. Yeah. And I read the shit out of that book. And I was like, wow, this makes sense. This is a really bad idea. And it's, you know, you're in seventh grade.

You're like, man, I'm so glad that doesn't happen here. Yeah. You know, and you get a little older. And, you know, we were talking about Kirstarmer earlier, who to be clear is not from America. but you hear other people in America in certain positions talking like that and like, you know, what's the word? They normalize some of that rhetoric or whatever. Yeah.

I felt very woke to say. It's cultural conditioning. Yeah, exactly. And you're like, ooh, that's not good. Yeah. Like I've seen that not work out well anywhere. I mean, how is it that they pushed all of the woke agenda to the point where it became legislated?

They normalized it and culturally conditioned us through our media, through movies. and shows like all the trans stuff, they started to put, like, you'd be hard pressed to find a movie, including kids' movies and shows that don't have some type of LGBT, like, aspect, like, blended into them. They normalized it. It was cultural conditioning that eventually became legislated. And it's exactly the same thing with everything else that we don't want to see happen. They're going to try to push it culturally first, you know?

Yeah, I think any time you use something like what the fuck was the thing called that they referred to the intersectionality curve and things like that. Whenever you start using like, for lack of a better term, like I guess victim layering, if you will, that is, you want to talk about a slippery slope steep to hell. I mean, that's what we watch happen. That's how you get people not being able to say what a woman is. Yeah. You know, like what were they calling it?

Adult human female. Oh, yes. Chest, chest feed off or for someone who breast feeds. Like what the fuck. I mean, you know, when I go to the bar, I'm not looking for. whatever those terms were. I'm looking for a woman. It's not hard.

And whatever floats your boat's fine with me, but don't fucking legislate how people talk about things or especially when it went to like what they would force upon kids or allow to happen to kids against parents' wishes. Like what the fuck is that? Yeah. I mean, again, some of the most intense reading that we have is probably like Adam Wolf and things like this. Now kids are literally learning about sexual acts.

gay, gay sex, like things that are literally inside of the books that they get in school. And a lot of the times it's without parental consent. Like parents don't know what their kids are learning in their classrooms. There's so much indoctrination to the point where like we may send our kids to like a private school maybe, but it's gotten to the point where I'm like, I just want to homeschool and just make sure that I can instill my values inside of my children because, you know, the programming, the cultural conditioning. It's so perverse.

It's so intensive. It's hard to escape unless you really set up those boundaries and confines, like, within your own home. So we're probably going to homeschool all of our kids, to be honest. Yeah, I just had him my friend Spencer Taylor, who prior to him being a documentarian, he was like, who's a co-host on Impulsive and Jake and Logan Paul's videographer, good friends with them, and then went on his own direction, he's done a lot of cool stuff. but he just made an fucking unbelievable documentary called what is it end of recess that's the official name of it

want to make sure we get that right but it's about like the death of recess it's about the full history of the of the public schooling system in america which he went back 175 years on this basically and went through how it was taking control of what the goals were how it works against educational standards how indoctrination is allowed to occur which happened slowly and then what seems like suddenly over time. But I would highly recommend people see it because it's like the evidence is the evidence. And when you look at that, there is some, I don't know what the full sinister objective is.

Like it takes a guess at a few things, but there is something really, really dark about the people who decide to perpetuate that. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And there's a lot of people now saying exactly what you're saying. Like, I want to homeschool my kids.

You need to take it into your own hands. I mean, it's really the only choice that we have unless we fix the system from within. And that becomes a steeper challenge every single day. Again, unless we get elected officials in office who actually push back against some of this stuff. But it's such an, it's up and uphill battle that it's like you just have to control the controllables

and do everything you can in your own home, you know. Yeah. What was the moment for you in Maui where you were like, hold on a fucking minute and kind of started your whole journey now. When they were arresting people for just going on the beach, and by the way, they couldn't even enforce those. They were ticketing people and arresting some of them

for going out on the beach. There was so many tickets that they couldn't even enforce them all. They ended up throwing them all out by the time that COVID was over. But for me, what really woke me up, like, to caring about politics was more so the contrast between the Australian system and the American one, especially when I got to Florida and saw how free it was, it made me really start to question,

okay, we were two countries that have very similar cultural makeup. Like Australians, we grow up on American media, American movies, we barely watch any Australian made things. So we're so similar, you know, our accents are kind of similar, we speak the same language, we kind of look the same, what's different? And it comes down to the fact that Australia is a mixed economy. You know, there's socialized aspects to that system versus America's free market capitalistic system. And yeah, I think that's what really got me curious.

Again, my mom would literally call me nearly every day and say, I'm so glad you're in America. I'm so grateful you're living in America and not back here. And your family's all still there. Yeah. And Australia is, I mean, over time. You know, everything's kind of normal, at least when it comes to the COVID stuff. But again, that was probably the testing bed for a lot of the dystopian stuff they're pushing now with the hate speech laws.

They're arresting people for tweets, for protesting, for wearing political t-shirts. And that's not the country that I grew up in. So it's a very slippery slope observing what it's become, at least from afar, hearing from my family, tuning into the news, firsthand accounts from people I grew up with, and understanding how different it is from the Australia that I grew up in makes me want to fight for America while we still have time and while we still have freedom. Because there's a lot of people that don't want it to be a free country. The one thing I do wonder, I've been talking about this with people recently on podcasts,

is like if the government and the bureaucracies, the DARPAs and things like that are actually 30, 40 years ahead, like they've been reported to be in the past by other people smarter than me, you know, does that have been. mean we're already in it. Yeah, probably. We could be, but does that mean we don't fight? No, no, that's not what I'm saying. But I'm like, what does that even mean?

No, I think. Does that mean the fight is manufactured too? It could be. And that's where we go back to what we were saying with like, well, the, the sentiment and the talk about Israel, like, is that for a reason, do they want us to be doing that? Like, it could very well be. But, you know, if it's impossible to try to keep up with this 4D, 5D chess, like, whatever. You just, you need to make the best decisions based on the evidence that you currently have available to you.

You need to look at things objectively. Kind of like the opposite of what the mainstream media is saying, I think is generally, you're probably a little bit closer to the truth and observing what the mainstream media is saying. It's the biggest propaganda machine that exists today. I think that one of the biggest barriers to actually enacting changes like the boomer generation and some of the older Gen X's because they're so locked in to Fox News, like conversations that my husband and I have had with people where we're laying at our argument and they're like, guys, you literally don't understand.

Like, he's playing 5D chess. Trump is playing 5D chess. Like, you don't understand. I'm educated. I watch like Fox and Friends. I watch like the Five. I watch like all these shows. I'm plugged into this.

This is their main propaganda weapon, you know, and less and less people are tuning into legacy media. They're starting to tune into alternative media, YouTube, Rumble, other platforms. And I'm grateful for that. But there's still a very large portion of the population that they get all of their news source from Fox News, CNN, all these other platforms. So I think, you know, you kind of observe what legacy media is saying and doing. And you do and say the opposite. And you're closer to the truth than if you had been plugged into that kind of.

of mechanism. I think there's something to be said for that for sure. I mean, the mainstream media has been co-opted since almost the beginning of time of it. And there's no doubt that the mask is off for people who actually quote unquote look into it. But to your point, the boomer generation is still this enormous block with enormous power, enormous economic power as well. And I've had those same conversations with people where, like I had one where a boomer I know know, it was like a pretty conservative person, like someone who definitely votes Republican in

all the elections, called me up after the Epstein files came out, maybe a couple weeks into it. And they don't know anything about it because they're not talking about what's really happening on TV. And they genuinely wanted to know about it. And there was a second phone call where I believe it was for 58 and a half minutes. The only time I stopped was when I said, do you have any questions on that? And they'd be like, no, keep going. And, you know, that's as quick of an overview as I could give. I mean, really, I need 58 hours to get in the actual story. But I was like, I got off that call and you could tell their worldview was shell-shocked.

And I was like, that's really cool that they were interested in actually learning that because I would cite the evidence, go through emails, stuff like that. So they knew I wasn't just pulling this out of my ass. Right. But not a lot of people do that. No. You know? Most weren't.

And it's like, how do you change that? Because there are people in this country, not just mainstream versus. like people online. There's even look online. There's people who live in totally separate realities with their algorithms. A lot of them. Yeah. You know?

So what they see is what's curated to them and that also feels like a part of the plan. True. We often ask, I'm like, does everyone, has everyone in the world woken up to the Israel problem? And my husband often says like, we're probably just in our own echo chamber, right? Our algorithm on social media. And so I think about that a lot. Am I just in an echo chamber? or has America for a sentiment truly gotten to the point where it's boiling over so much that everyone is experiencing this mass awakening?

And the only thing that gives me cause to believe that I'm not living in an echo chamber is when you see establishment voices like your Mark Levins, Randy Fines, Laura Luma's, Trump, Vance, all these people who are establishment when they're getting ratioed, right? Like, they have their own echo chamber. So how come they're getting ratioed on post, sometimes by double, triple, quadriple by people who do have the America First sentiment? That's what kind of gives me a little bit of hope that maybe we're not in an echo chamber. Maybe people are actually experiencing a mass awakening of sorts. Yeah, there was, did you see the poll that came out? What was that from, Thief? It was the...

Who was the outlet? But one of the main, God damn it, it was the poll about sentiment of Israel across different blocks generationally. And then they also broke down who made up each of those generations from like an ethnic background or social background issue. And when I look at a poll, I like to go look at like the poll science behind it. The cross tabs, yeah. Like how they put it together. Who was asked? how they were asked, how many actually responded.

Because it's like if it's a phone pole, who the fuck is answering that? Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. This one was done, I believe, mostly through signed up online survey. It was very equally representative from like age 18 to age 70. They even delted like a percentage Jewish population percentage, Muslim population, percentage evangelical Christian population.

Like they were hitting all the different opposite. And essentially, they wanted to get an overall sentiment towards American opinions on Israel across a subset of around 4,000 people. And they wanted to separate that out left and right as well. And the one thing that was such a clear separation was you had a lot of agreement on the left and right that, like, they don't like the relationship with Israel. So you see that the puck has really moved big time. But you still saw the holdout on the right side. Biden particularly. It was a little bit on the left side, but more on the right side. Was the people age, I want to say it was like 58 and above or something like that? Still only 24% had an unfavorable view of Israel. And that right there is strictly you're looking at the people who are watching news. Yeah. You know, and they're not online. They don't see some of these things. And I do always try to ask myself, what is propaganda, what and what's not? And that goes in both directions, to be clear. Well, like over time, especially when you see the actions that have been taken in the last couple years, it is what it is.

Yeah. Like even when I assume that half of what I'm seeing is AI and not real, that other half is really bad. Yeah. You know, so it's like even when you, I don't know, delta margin of error in there, you're still looking at what you're looking at. There's a lot of people who have a list that are probably largely contributed to that poll. Grow up with the idea that like those who bless Israel will be blessed. and they think that that pertains for some reason to the Lekud Party and to Bibi Netanyahu and went to the government of Israel.

Right. Right. It's a completely separate thing. Yes. Like Jesus came to, and I'm sorry to get religious on you for a second. I'm a Christian. Jesus came to fulfill that old covenant. The only thing you need to do to get into heaven is to declare that Christ is Lord

and to repent your sins and to say that he is the way, the truth and the life. But there is a lot of people through dispensationalism who, believe that, no, those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed, and you need to be in support of Israel, otherwise you're not going to heaven. Like the most extreme branches of dispensationalism, moody dispensationalism, they literally believe that you need to support the government of Israel to be a good Christian. And there's been a lot of siops and propaganda and, yes, money that have gone into those churches to actually create and perpetuate those ideologies.

And it's really unfortunate, you know. My husband used to be a Zionist Christian. He went to Israel. He did the tour. He didn't kiss the wall, but he touched it. He tapped it, right? But he is somewhat, and I don't like this purest thing where it's like, you need to always have been on the train and you need to have been born based to be one of us.

No, I think that you make decisions, sorry, you make decisions based on the information that's presented to you. When you have better information presented to you, you can make different and better decisions. And that's something that he did. He woke up to that reality. And now he understands that, you know, this idea of Israel from the Old Testament

isn't referring to the Lekud Party. It's not referring to Bebeenet and Yahoo. It's not referring to the fact that, you know, oh, you need to support the genocide in Gaza and the war crimes and Jews are the only chosen people. No, that's false. That is a complete lie that has been made up to manipulate people, manipulate their ideology, manipulate their religion

to make them believe that they need to have this opinion. And young people especially are waking up to that. But the boom is like, if you're born and raised on that idea, it's a difficult thing to break, especially when it comes to your religion. Because religion is such a pivotal thing. It means so much to people, you know? 100%.

I'm a cradle Catholic, so I was born-based, right? I didn't have that issue. But no, for a lot of Protestants and evangelicals, this is an ideology that they need to come to terms with, the fact that they have been propagandized and brainwashed. There's a reason why Israel pays for people to come out there on tours, et cetera, to perpetuate this idea that is just patently false. I always say just listen to people when they tell you who they are. Have you read Benjamin Netanyahu's autobiography? I have not. No.

I should read every single word of it. I read every word of it back in, I finished it like two weeks before October 7th, weirdly. Oh, wow. Yeah, very strange. But, you know, I remember reading when I was reading and I was still reading it through the lens of like, you want to believe he's not the worst thing ever. Because like there's all kinds of relationship interests with the United States. And then it was probably within like a week or two after October 7th. And there's a whole conversation there with just things I saw where I'm like, oh, no.

That thing in my gut that was going, this man is a complete and total sociopath. No, he is. Yeah. Like, that's exactly what he is. And one of the things he talks about in there is like his, he spent many years in America. I think people forget that. But, you know, he talked about going and building relationships with the evangelical churches across the country. He tells you what he's doing.

Yeah. This is a foreign government guy going and using money with his political ideology. to get injected into churches where people are away from the government in a country that has it stipulated in the Constitution separation between church and state, by the way. This isn't even the state. Yeah. This is another state.

You know, he's going there and funneling away. And that's how, who's that fucking psycho bitch that advises Trump now? Oh, she's the worst. She's just crazy. I don't remember her name off the top of my head, but oh, my gosh, she just hearing her speak, you get like the heibi-jee-jeebies. Like, like, yeah, if there's such thing as demons. Yeah, it's, it's in.

No, no, no, no, that's not her. No, no, no, that's the chief of step. No, the spiritual advisor. It's like Paula's. Yeah. Did I say Paula Dean? No, that's, that's, that's mean. Paul, it's not Paula Dean.

It's like Paula White or. Paula. Brett Krupa did a great video breakdown on her recently. Paula White Kane. Yeah. No, it's. Yeah, she can fuck off. Yeah.

The other thing. is, you know, Bibi Netanyahu, he said that he's fighting a multi-front war, and the last and most important front is social media. Remember, he gathered all of those social media people together at an embassy for Israel here in the U.S. and basically gave them a social media campaign. There was a bunch of money funneled into that by the Israeli government that basically said, if you create pro-Israel propaganda and you post about it on social media, we'll pay you. whether it was $7,000 per post or not, that part is kind of being disputed. Apparently some people are suing them because they haven't paid out.

Yeah, which is. But regardless of that, you know, he came out and said it. This is a multi-front war and social media is the last and most important front. And let me tell you, they didn't recruit the best and brightest. Some of the social media posts that came out from people like Emily Austin and a few of the other people from that campaign. Like, it was laughable. Like, it was embarrassing for them almost. It's like, these are your best people to convince us to bow out of the wall and love the Israeli government.

They're not sending their best. They're not setting their best. They're not setting their brightest. But, yeah, no, they'll tell you straight out what they're doing, whether that's some form of, like, comic retribution or it's just something that they do. The most sinister part, I think, of that whole meeting. That was right here in New York. Okay. And Netanyahu, his plane had to take a different route than usual to the United States to avoid air spaces that might ground the plane so he'd be arrested, which is just...

Yeah. Yeah. But when he was sitting in there, sitting back like a mob boss, and he's just riffing on the next war is on social media. Yeah. And he's like, Elon, he's a friend. You know, it's like, that's how Uncle Vinny talks when he's ready to fucking whack a guy on 186 street, but he don't know nothing about. nothing. Like, if I get Joey Merlino in that seat, that's how he's going to fucking talk. That was a pretty good BB impression, by the way. I have a good BB.

You know, it's like, you see this and my, that meeting made my blood boil because I looked in that room and that room was mostly filled with influencers who are born in America. They are, they enjoy the fucking greatness of this country and the things that you get to do here to be a free person and a foreign leader, I don't give a fuck what country it is. I'd say this about Britain. Right. A foreign leader flies in and this is how blatant it is. They put their own cameras in there to disseminate this to people that this is what they're doing and is instructing these influencers how to win the war on the American mind. There is no planet on which the people sitting in that room born, I mean, he's doing exactly what he's supposed to do. He's trying to win over opinion here. Fine.

There's no planet on which the people in that room who are listening to him to take his orders who are born here and from here are not committing treason. I'm sorry. And then those same people are invited to the White House. And I have an issue with that. Yeah. Who's the one fucking chick in there? Deborah Lee taking a selfie outside that shooting. Yeah, of course. That was one of Netanyahu's horrors from his social media campaign. Of course. Of course. I see this and I'm like, listen, I have no problem with like you're Jewish, you feel some sort of kinship. No problem. But you have to feel kinship here first. Like I'm half Italian on both sides of my family. Right. Okay. Everyone out there who's like 100% Italian, you can go back and think about the people in your family who maybe their family came here in 1910, 1920.

Maybe they're born here. Maybe they're not. And then 1939 comes around and Italy's fighting with Hitler. They, you know how many fucking guys whose names ended in a vowel without asking a single question, put on an American uniform and went over there and fought the Italians, including people that might be in their own fucking family? All of them. Yeah. So I hold people of every race in this country. Same standard.

The same fucking standard. Absolutely. Dude, I was on the whatever podcast. Shout up Brian Atlas. But it was a very diverse panel, actually. Again, I enjoy talking about feminism. I often go on these shows, whatever, fresh and fit. I like to debate the feminists and the only fans girls.

But this was quite a diverse panel. I think they had like five foreign girls on there. And Brian posed the question. Let's say America went to war with your country of origin. Who would your allegiance be to? There was an Israeli girl on the panel, by the way. But not to single her out. Every single other girl, the Russian girl, the Scottish girl, the Bangladeshi girl,

the Israeli girl. They all said their allegiance would be to their home country. Many of them are now citizens who needed to declare allegiance to America. When they got their citizenship, they all said that they would side with their home country. I was the only one in that entire room. He said, no, I'm America first. 100%. Because I do love Australia.

There's aspects that I miss. But it's also the fact that, like, literally, America is the last bastion of freedom in the West. If America goes down, what do you think is going to happen to the world? rest of the world, to the rest of the West. Like, this is truly the lost line of defense for everything that we love and everything that we cherish. And that's not the only reason why I say I'm America first, but it's certainly a strong reason and a compelling enough argument to give 100% of my allegiance to America.

I told you before we started rolling, when I get dual citizenship, I'll renounce the Australian one like that. I don't even care. Yeah. We'll hold you to it. Yeah. It's unruly. Please do.

We will. Absolutely. I believe you 100%. I don't think you're stuttering off. I love this country. I, you know, I am married to an American. I'm going to raise my children here. I'm going to die here and I'm going to be buried here.

I love this country. Can't argue with that. I mean, and it's interesting. So the girls you were on a panel with, if I understood that correctly, you're saying they were all at least born over in the other countries and now they're all citizens here. And they all said that. And I think that's a compelling point that like,

that should raise a question or two. I think it's even worse and more. black and white though when you are literally born here. Yeah. That is way worse to me. 100% right. Like for them, I'm like, all right, maybe they're a little over time. Or like thinking about it weird.

But like when you enjoyed every bit of your life from the time you were taken out of the womb in this country, this is where it should be, man. Yeah. And it's not to say that like you can't feel a kinship with your fucking roots. That's fine. That's absolutely fine. But there's a huge difference between that and directly fighting against the interest. of the place where you are.

That's true. There's also a lot of, like, you know, propaganda to be anti-patriotic and that being patriotic is cringe. This especially comes from the left. Who knows where it really comes from when you look at NGOs who fund these agendas, right, and who funds those NGOs. Maybe it is all a part of a larger play. But seemingly from the left, a lot of propaganda that says it's cringe to be patriotic.

The white man is bad. The people who built this country are terrible. evil, right? And so with that, I feel like a lot of people who adopt more leftist ideologies, they feel shame around their heritage and shame around being an American. And this is a form of propaganda in and of itself that I think has resulted in some of this. So I've talked about this before in a little bit of a different lens. Would love your thoughts on this. But I think it was a psychological phenomenon that was created. And the way I've always described is I said the greatest mistake that the

Democrats made in the 2015-2016 election cycle was not underestimating Donald Trump. It was not, you know, all the, I guess, like propaganda against some of the things you would say that actually weren't what he really said. Or a whole list of other things that we could make an argument for. It was the fact that they gave him the flag. They literally, like, remember he had fucking 40 flags behind him the first time he came down the escalator? And then he would make the flag a big symbol and a big. thing at every rally and suddenly it became oh if you have an American flag you're associated with Donald Trump I hear you okay they psychologically built that into the psyche because I ever and I remember

where I noticed this and I went whoa was July I was going down the shore for in in Jersey for July 4th July 4th 2015 he'd only been on the trail for like three weeks or whatever everyone I know left and right is wearing, you know, American flag shirts, American flag shorts, whatever. There's American flags on every, you know, boathouse when you go down to the bay. The next year, which was also the weekend where Comey came out and was like, we're not going to prosecute Hillary Clinton. Everyone wearing flags of some sort was right wing. We're conservative. Right.

And people on the left, for the most part, were not. And that was where I clocked out. I was like, whoa. Yeah, you associate Trump with the flag. and then you associate anyone who likes Trump with being a racist, a fascist, a totalitarian, and then all of a sudden your pride in America becomes equated with those things. If you want to identify with Americanism, that must mean you're a fascist and you're a racist and you want a totalitarian rule.

You know, that makes a lot of sense. I see that. I just talked about this with respect to the word patriot. Ironically, like the movie The Patriot is one of my favorite movies. It's fucking awesome. And like, it's a great word. And it's like what this country was founded on from people who were across the political spectrum. And now when it said it's said is like kind of like an echo chamber rally cry.

Right. Meaning like I think someone who is, you know, just genuine liberal or someone who's a genuine conservative who actually cares about the country and isn't, you know, on some sort of extreme on either way. Like they should be able to call themselves a patriot. But there's this weird like people are like, oh, can I call myself that without being labeled this? Like that's bullshit. Yeah. I think the tide is shifting though because, again, a part of this.

unification rally that I tried to create was because there's a lot of people on the left now who are specifically using in their campaign messaging the term America First and saying that they're running on an America First platform, which simply, I guess America First means different things to different people, but to them it means rejecting foreign, like foreign interference, foreign lobbies, saying no to foreign money and actually putting their constituents first. People on the the left and now using that. So I think that all propaganda is slowly dying out. And I think that's a great thing. Now, I think there's still a long way to go. There was a little bit of mayhem at this event that we held. There were a couple of the Democratic candidates who got up.

And despite us prefacing the event, we're saying like, hey, guys, don't virtue signal. I know we have a lot of disagreements. I know we don't get along on most things. But we're here today because we don't want foreign money in our government. We don't agree with the war in Iran, and we're against the way that Trump handled the Epstein files. And underpinning that is one foreign nation, right? Let's keep the focus on that. And they still took the opportunity to come up

and to say that, you know, white people need to pay reparations and every societal ill was due to the white men and the people who built this country. And so I still feel like there is a little bit of a ways to go. But by that same token, these people are coming out and saying, no, I'm running on an America first platform. I'm against foreign interests hijacking the government. So maybe, yeah, it's a start.

Maybe the revival starts. At least that's what we can only hope for. I think people have such a bad taste in their mouth for what they're seeing, that they're like literally willing to consider alternatives now at this point. Yeah. Yeah, I think, you know, it'll be baby stuts with some things because also like you pointed it out earlier. There's so many ideas within the political spectrum that have been just implanted and ingrained in people, especially over the past decade or past 15 years or so.

And particularly that it's like to get those attitudes removed the hardest thing to get rid of is an attitude and an idea that like, all right, maybe even if I feel this way about this thing, maybe I thought that was the number one priority. And actually it's like number six or seven so I can more focus on what brings us together more. It would be interesting. to see how that plays out. But like, you know, it seems like that's what you're trying to do and that's a positive thing. So like if it starts off with some people saying some shit

that's kind of like from fucking 2019 Redux, that might be a part of it on the way there. But it could come along. We need to just prioritize first and foremost sovereignty and free speech because these disagreements that we have, we're not going to be able to disagree about them. and duke them out in the courts and the court of public opinion if free speech is being controlled, right?

So that needs to be the first and foremost priority. Who's trying to take away the free speech? Okay, let's unify around that. Let's course corrected that issue first. And then we can come back later and we can duke out all of these social disagreements and these other disagreements we have once we're sovereign, once we're a free country. But until then, I genuinely feel like that needs to be the first priority

from both sides of the aisle. And I also think that will terrify the establishment too. Because again, they rely on these culture wars to keep us distracted and fighting one another so they can go and do all of this stuff. So they can commit treason and betray the American people and commit genocide. So let's put the horse before the cart, focus on one thing at a time. And then in a couple of years, once we've saved the country when we're a free country, then we can fight about the gender stuff or economic policies, social safety nets,

right? Because those things are certainly important. I don't want to discredit how important they are, but it can never be as important as our own sovereignty or retaining free speech. Yeah, priorities. Now, you said, because you're newly married now and you said you plan on having kids, I think that's something everyone should plan to do. I think that's like the meaning of life right there. But there's been a massive, I think, like attack from every level on people doing that, You know, and this is going on for a long time. Like, I'm just saying, if I wanted to enact some population control, I would try to convince people that gender doesn't exist.

I would make sure people are in debt up to their eyeballs coming out of college for a degree they didn't need so that they would never financially be able to get out of debt and therefore be able to afford a kid. I would make a kid a financial decision, which is just fucking wild, you know? And I would also maybe encourage some perfectly fine traditional gender roles to be viewed as, no, that's total bull.

even though biologically speaking, it's not. Am I missing anything there? No, you're a hundred percent correct. There has been an intentional push to destabilize the family unit, to make patriarchy seem like a bad thing, to completely flip and reverse gender roles. And I think this is where the like girl boss mentality that a lot of women have really comes in, where they're told that if you don't go and get your own career and get your own money and you, you know, you, you know, forego that for a husband and children and your own offspring, you're going to be missing out in life, you know? And that's a really sad and shallow way to look at things. And I think that most women kind of wake up to that reality, but by the time they do, it's too late.

They're already in like their mid to late 30s, right? And at that point, it's biologically less likely that they're even in a position to be able to have kids. but you're dead on with like the gay stuff and the gender stuff as well, obviously. And birth control is another thing. Women who've been on birth control for most of their life, it's much more difficult for them to get pregnant. It affects their fertility. But all of these things have been normalized.

Get on birth control. Be a girl boss. Go get your own career. Heterosexual relationships are inherently toxic power structures, which was literally said by Kate Malay, who was one of the founders of the second waves of feminism. actually, that was one of their core tenets. What was that exactly?

Heterosexual relationships are inherently toxic power structures. Huh. But gay ones aren't. Abortion. Yeah, abortion as well, normalizing abortion. Absolutely seeing, you know, a baby in the womb is not a baby. Oh, it's a fetus. It's not actually life until you actually give birth.

And now we're seeing, maybe not so much in America. I believe there are some states that are pretty, pretty bad with it, but around the world, you can literally get an abortion up until like nine months after the baby's gone. And then if you don't successfully go through with the abortion and you give birth to a live baby, you can just leave it to die. And that's considered a part of the abortion. No. Yeah. It's that bad? Yeah. Like out of the womb. Yeah. If the abortion fails because it was too late and then you give birth to a live baby, they literally leave it to die. Where do they do this? It's in the U.S.

UK, I believe is one place. What? Yeah. We got to look that up just to be sure that's wild. If true. There was a politician even in Virginia who was on a morning show years ago who openly admitted to the fact that they give birth and then we'll abort the live baby. Yeah. And give the, they say they sometimes even encourage the birth so they can take the stem

cells and the organs and all that stuff to be able to donate and help. And then you read things like the Epstein files where they're talking in code about certain things that are in my head right now. And you wonder where they're getting all that from. And it's clocking. Yeah. As early as 2026, UK law generally permits abortion up to 24 weeks. However, legislation passed in 25 and 26 has decriminalized self-managed abortion at any

gestation, meaning women cannot be prosecuted for ending their own pregnancy at nine months, though it remains illegal for doctors to perform abortions beyond 24 weeks without specific legal. medical reasons. Yeah, that's just like... They found workarounds where there's certainly many such cases where it's happened. Because I know exactly what video you're talking about, Daniel. Was that guy's name again? I don't know.

Governor, I don't want to get it wrong. But I remember Alex Jones talked about this where he's doing the guy's voice. We just like, we just take the baby, you know, but... If I'm not mistaken, I believe that Waltz, actually. Was the name Tim Walts? The Kamala's running mate. He was a real. He was one of the people trying to push

some of the most extreme abortion laws in the country in his state as well. So yeah, I mean, it's just, it's really sad to see the way that society has been brainwashed to believe all of these things, like as if it's not the meaning of life to start a family, to, I feel like there's fulfillment that you get from having a family and raising kids that you can't get anywhere else.

But it's also like your duty to the world to like to reproduce. Like we're being outproduced as well, by the way. We're being out what? Outproduced by like immigrants within this country. Like it's just like, white people are going to go extinct. I mean, that's fucking one way to.

Why people are way less encouraged to have children. It's true. Controversial take. No, listen, when you see it where you, you'll have like an immigrant family with fucking eight kids, you don't see a lot of like people from this country with eight kids. Yeah. It's a lot. One if you're lucky.

I mean, where I'm a little older, we're aiming for at least three to get above replacement levels. You know, you got to go out. Oh, he wants four. Yeah. I want eight. He wanted eight. Yeah. When we were dating, he, he, before we were dating, sorry, when we were just friends,

he'd always say like, I want eight kids. I can't wait to have eight kids. I'm going to have a massive family. And then we started dating. I'm a little bit older than him. I'm 30. And so we started dating. I was like, dude, you know, I probably can't give you eight kids, right? He was like, okay, at least three, at least three, we'll get married. We got married very quickly after we started dating. How quickly? We dated for a month before he proposed and then seven months later, we eloped.

You proposed in a month? Three weeks. Three weeks. We were best friends for like a year and literally spent every single day together, like literally every single day together 24-7. So you guys, all right, that's a little, that's a little different. Yeah. He friends own me, he friends own me three times. Oh, he friends own you. Three times, yeah.

What fuck is wrong with you? Strategy. Oh, strategy. I got it. All right. A guy like me getting a 10 like this. Set the bar low. Gotcha.

You want what you can have. Yeah, apparently. He came to inform me of this strategy later, but it's too late to be mad about it. And now it hasn't taken the luster off? No, no. Now that you know, you've seen behind the candelabra? I love him so much.

She's my best friend in the whole world. And I can't wait. He's going to be the best dad in the world. I can't wait to have babies for them. That's awesome. You got to lead with the we were very good friends for like a year, not the three weeks part. People just think Vegas drugs.

Yeah. No, no, no. We work together. So our work environment was very stressful when we work for this full-man network. We'd literally be there like. Is this value tamedment? Yeah. We'd be there a minimum of nine hours a day.

It was usually like 10, 11 hours per day. And then we go back to my family. house and work on my show. I had two shows on that network. So we would work on it together. We watched comedy together to try to alleviate a little bit of the stress. We're both big comedy fans. And I don't drive. I don't know how to drive. I've never learned. So he'd drive me everywhere. We're basically together like- Very anti-feminist of you. Yeah.

Yeah. Women do cause more car accidents, I will say. So I'm just doing my part, you know, doing my part. Oh my God. That's funny. But yeah, we literally spent nearly all of our time together. He'd fall asleep on my couch at like 2, 3 a.m. I'd have to wake him up, send him on his way. Oh, you sent him home. Yeah. Oh, you really were committed.

You were committed to the bed. He crashed out on the couch and like maybe slept there like a couple of times if I, if I fell asleep beforehand. I'm also very Christian, so I was saving myself for marriage. Oh, that's what you were doing. Yes, precisely. Yes. Good for you, man. I haven't heard a story like that in a while.

Yeah. Three weeks and how long after the proposal did you get married? Seven months. Seven months. Yeah, but we were wanting to do it within like three months, but then again, work was so hard. You're still a valutainment then? Yeah, yes, yes. Yeah, for much of it.

And then we left and we were just on the road. We just have been doing trips like this. We're on our fourth week here on the road going on different podcasts and all the stuff. And then finally we were in in Vegas. Oh, you did in Vegas for real. And we got eloped in Vegas. And we were there for like a month and we're like, dude, we want to get married. We want to do it.

It's going to cost a lot of money. We're going to keep pushing it down the road. But, yeah, so we're like, let's just do it. Good for you. Did you get any family in for it? It was just. They all zoomed in. Oh, that's nice.

Very coded. They got to see it all. Yeah, absolutely. We had a couple of good friends there, though. Give him a virtual hug. When we save up a little bit more money, you know, we'll probably do like a renewing of the vows. I'll bring out my family from Australia.

We can do it with his family. And you won't let him back. Yeah. probably yeah never go back exactly like marry his brothers through yes that's right through through legal means of course that's what I'm wondering yeah yeah no by any means necessary that illegal I definitely want to keep them here for sure yeah I miss I miss them a lot that's really the only thing I miss about Australia is like my family like yeah we have some nice beaches but there is nice nicer beaches in America oh nice beaches here I like to say so yeah nice everyone

talks about Australia's beaches. They are nice. I mean, I moved to Maui after Australia. So, I mean, they were nicer Maui, but also like... That's not America. Ciesta Key, though, like Florida, South Carolina. Some really beautiful beaches out there. Florida beach is like, I haven't been, it looks fucking incredible.

It's amazing. Isn't that like closer to Japan than America? I'm not sure. I know it's like equal travel distance to get from Australia to Hawaii and then Hawaii to the West Coast, I believe. So it's like, yeah. Shout out to all our friends in Hawaii. I'm just being a little facetious.

Yeah, no. Still, that's like a hell of, like, people don't say like, yeah, I decided to immigrate to America. Oh, where you were Chicago? I went to Hawaii. Yeah, I would fucking immigrate here too. Like, fuck. It's like six hours behind in time zones as well.

So it's just like untenable to be able to like work remotely with people on the East Coast and stuff. Like you might as well be in a different country. For sure. But also, I'm just remembering this now. My friend Brandon Buckingham, you ever seen his channel? on YouTube.

No, I don't think so. He's awesome. So he does all kinds of documentaries, but a story he did maybe two and a half years ago. I think it was like the end of 2023-ish, Steve, was one in Hawaii where he covered like a giant commune because an issue that they're having in Hawaii is because it's such a vacation destination and such, you know, a spot for big money to come in. A lot of the people who live there slowly over the years have been put to a level to where their economic means aren't enough to own a house.

Priced out, yeah. So they were having some pretty big homeless problems. And now they found some workarounds with that that he was actually covering. But like did you see any of that as well? Because that's almost like a different, it's not like the immigration problem, but it's a similar kind of where you see like some massive socioeconomic gaps to where people kind of get left behind. Yeah, totally. There's definitely some poorer areas in Hawaiian.

There's definitely harmless people. Some harmless people even from mainland USA try to do everything they can. to save up money to go be homeless in Hawaii instead of mainland USA because it's warm all year round, it's beautiful, you know. You won't really get kicked off the beach if you have a fishing pole that's like one legislation. If you have a fishing pole, you can't get kicked off the beach. So you can sleep next to the pole. Yeah, basically.

I mean, there's good about a homeless. I wouldn't say it was like as rampant, obviously, is what you'd see in like big cities or anything like that in mainland USA. But it was for sure an issue. The other issue, though, with Hawaii was like, you know, you know, these Lahaina fires and stuff like this. The disaster relief that they gave to the families is nowhere near enough for them to rebuild homes

and instead massive corporations are coming in, buying up that land, developing on it. So I would say this is probably just as big of an issue as that, if not a greater one. Did the Maui victims ever get anything beyond the fucking $700? Not to my knowledge. That's fucking... I think some people, in the case of deaths,

like if someone in your family died, you got like up to a million, I believe, but that was only if someone died for people who just lost their properties. I think there were actually some like $10,000 checks issued, but nothing substantial to the point where they can go and they can buy a new home or rebuild their home. And I knew people who lost like absolutely everything in those fires. It was really disgusting to see the way that Hawaii handled that. Yeah, I think what just made that go down even worse for people was when you just see at the time

it was like they were sending fucking $30 billion that week. to Ukraine. I mean, we could probably use that here. Right, exactly. Even though it feels like a different country, these are Americans. Like, why aren't we taking care? This comes back to the America first sentiment.

Why am we taking care of our people first? The people who need the disaster relief, the homeless veterans who are on the streets, the mothers who were struggling to even get by, the young adults who can't buy their own home and feel like they probably never can, which is again contributing to them not starting families. Like just in the 70s, 50% of people who were 30 or older were married and earned their own home.

And now that number's like 13%. Another stat just came out recently that said that like, what percentage was it of people that have less than $500 in their bank account? Over 50% don't have $500 in their bank account. Like, this is insane. It's not. It's actually insane. But I don't see, you know, Trump always talks about it's the golden age. I don't see anyone really contributing to a solution for that.

Yeah, that part seems to get worse and worse. You know, we talked about this a ton on a lot of different podcasts, but you see the recovery from like the 08 crisis. The people that recovered from that are the people who already had a big nut in the market that could afford to lose 50% and weighted out and then make money on their money. The people who had a smaller nut who had saved up to get whatever they could their 401k who were 58 years old at that point were fucked. Yeah.

Because they were left with nothing and then they had nothing to build on. So the system was, I'm not even blaming any one like political move on this. I'm saying like in general, the system had been allowed to get to a point by a lot of people over a lot of years to where fucking the majority of people got left behind. So now we can talk about, oh, the stock market's doing this or like the dollars, 50,000. She almost said dollars by the way. That's how fucking dumb she is. But like, you know, we can talk about that.

Who's participating in? Not the average everyday American. Yeah. And like, that is just... Yeah, they don't even have 500 in emergency savings, let alone being able to invest substantially into the magnificent seven or anything inside of the stock market. Like, it's just such a dumb point when people try to refer to the stock market

or these different commodities as a metric for how well America's doing. That's why I think there's also a distinction between like America for, and Americans first, right? Americans first. I think that's really the movement that people need to put at the forefront because when you say America first, that could also just be the corporations, the profit off Americans, the people who are already rich, the rich getting richer, the Dow getting to 60,000 next, right? Who knows? But Americans first is putting these disenfranchised people that we're talking about, the veterans

first, putting the young people first, helping them buy their first home, helping them start families, helping the, you know, median to low income earners, like, that's actually putting Americans first. I think that's what we need to focus on more than America as the corporation, because that's what people see it as is a corporation. Yeah. And I'll tell you, one of the big concerns I have is, like, obviously we should have never fucking gotten into this Iran war for any reason. But then we did.

And now we, you know, everyone says, straight a whore moves this. straight at Hormuz that. It's a big deal because if this ends up having reverberating effects of like oil not being settled in the U.S. dollar. Absolutely. Do you think inflation's bad now? Oh, it's going to be crazy. And most of the people who are assuring us that Trump is doing some 5D chess that we don't

understand, don't even know what the petro dollar system is. They've never even heard of this. They say straight of Hormuz, what's that? They don't even understand the implications, yet they're mad at you for being. unpatriotic for saying that you don't support this war of choice. Yeah, it's insane. But it just goes to show how uneducated most people are. Again, they're just tuned into Fox News.

They've just heard Trump say now 14 times, the war is over. The war is nearly over. We've nearly won the war. It's basically done. The war is over. He's literally said up like 14 times. I think it's more than that. It's insane.

It's absolutely insane. It's crazy. And then to say that he didn't understand the way that our ally countries in the region would be affected, No one warned me of that. That there would be precipitating attacks based off us attacking them. No one warned you at that, really? What's your advisor's jobs?

Like, what do they do? It's insane. They definitely warned him about that. Like, come on. It's insane. The whole buildup to it's insane. It's one of, you know, obviously I'm extremely upset about the Epstein story. And I don't think I've ever been more upset about something in my life publicly than that, like, as far as a public story is concerned.

but like the Iran war is is something I'm also extremely upset about. You know, maybe not to that level, but like it's a big fucking deal. Yeah. And, you know, you got it. We're in a situation now where pride needs to be completely put to the back burner. And you got to follow that old gambling rule of life. Do not throw good money after bed. Yep.

You know, there's some else you got to fucking take. Fine. That's better than taking two times those else. And Brian. I don't know. I'm rooting for the best here. But it's scary. Like when they say they're winning, like, what have you won?

What do you have before? Like, the straits open. Oh, you mean the straight that was open before you, before you started this war? All you did was murder a bunch of innocent civilians, by the way, create environmental disasters with the raining oil and everything like that. And then murder a leader only to install his son, I believe it is, who is more pronukes, who is now pissed off because his entire family was murdered and now, probably has an even greater agenda towards the American government.

Like, make it make sense. But I think for most people, they're not aware of all of those facts, obviously, the Fox News watches. So Trump should just declare it a day. The straits open and we took out one of the main, the regime leader, we won. And say that and the majority of Americans will believe it, right? I think that that's what he's got to do, swallow his pride. I don't even know what objective he could be going for still at this current point.

Well, we'll see how it turns out. It's crazy times for sure. Yeah. Fun conversation today. Thank you so much for comment. Of course. Obviously a lot of different things in there. So, you know, I really appreciate the fact that you like, look at so many different

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