Julian Dorey Podcast - #438 - The Most DEMONIC Israeli Politician (NOT Netanyahu) & Iran Deal Threat | Julian Dorey

Episode Date: June 20, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Check out O-D-O-O-O-O-O-com. That's O-D-O-O-O-O-com. What's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the Julian Dory Podcast. I am Julian Dory. And I'm Joey Dief. How you, how you, done? Dief, it turns out, the vice president of the United States is apparently a fan of the show and apparently listens to your callouts because, I don't know, after last week,
Starting point is 00:00:55 there was a quick little shift in the narrative from him, I got to say. Yeah, well, I hope he wasn't disappointed in what he had to hear. Can we just replay that audio from the 136-48 time stamp last week where... Yeah, let's play that. Joey Deef decided to end the show with a bang. It really came out of left field, but you might call it an upper cut of sorts. We got it? That's why I was going to say, I know it's above your pay grade, but I will advise the vice president.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Sir, your ass should resign if you have any semblance. of a spine left in you. There you go. Resign and fight for truth, but you won't because you're a spineless bitch. Okay. Well, let's pause that. We got that on there. So he didn't resign, to be clear, but we're going to talk about the hard 90-degree turn,
Starting point is 00:01:45 if you will, that J.D. Vance has made this week. And I want to remind people before we talk about all this, talk about what's going on with this Iran deal, which is a fucking mess. And before we also finally long overdue go all the way in on a very, very, very very evil individual who is certainly going to be a threat to this whole peace process. Before we do all that, I do want to say it's early. It's only been a few days of this tone shift that's happened with J.D. Vance and even with Donald Trump and the administration with, I guess, how to handle this situation to bring this disastrous war to a close. But they are at least some promising signs that have
Starting point is 00:02:23 been shown. That said, Joey Diff and I were talking before, you know, on a scale of zero to a hundred, we've made the big one or two percent step. That's what it is right now. Until you see actions, until you see this kind of 60 day period that we're going to talk about today as a part of this MOU that got signed with Iran, before you see this all wind down and come to the conclusion that we all desire, which is, I don't know, for some things to go back to normal, at least as it refers to America and to the rest of the global economy, say nothing of like Iran in that whole situation. That's a separate issue.
Starting point is 00:02:58 but like, you know, it's going to be a bumpy ride right here. And some of the reactions this week were extremely telling on both sides. The people that many of you out there would agree with me, we knew were fake supporters of like the Trump administration all along have certainly revealed themselves. I'm talking to you, Mark Levin. I'm talking to you, Ben Shapiro and all these people who, you know, were just, clearly more concerned with another issue that has nothing to do with America. So we will get to all that. There's going to be a lot of reaction today, a lot of videos to go through. Just right before I start, I do want to mention this week we are going to be putting on an episode with Rob O'Neill,
Starting point is 00:03:43 who is the Navy SEAL who killed Bin Laden. There's been some controversy there with some people trying to claim the story was different over time. I had a great conversation with Rob. It's about three hours and 20 minutes or so. And I do believe he killed. in line for sure very very interesting stuff so i'm looking forward to that one and then on friday i just recorded an episode with anthony pompliano that who's a long time friend of mine that was a very good spirited friendly back and forth debated discussion especially in in the second half of it so i i think that'll be interesting everyone be nice to pop in the comments but i think there's i think there's definitely like an episode like that is a good example of like some of
Starting point is 00:04:28 the other people that like pomp has had a view into and how separated from society they are, you know, when they talk to guys like him and give their viewpoint on stuff. But we had some interesting back and forth on Peter Thiel for sure who Pomp knows personally. But I think you know where I stand on that one. Yeah. Yeah, Diff. I don't, I don't think he's like, what do you call it, team humanity? No. No, no, he's not.
Starting point is 00:04:53 No. He's team salamander, as we've covered in the past. I think so. You know, the anagram of his name is just, you know, chef's kiss and all that. But, hey, guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge huge help. Thank you. Yeah, let's get into this deal right away.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Like, there's a lot that we had planned to go into that I don't know that we'll get to today. So that's some good stuff that we'll get to next week. Obviously, I always want to check in on my boy Howard Lutnik and everything. He will actually get checked in as a result He's always gonna get checked in He's always gonna get checked in Oh, he's checking Before you even dive into this deal
Starting point is 00:05:35 Is this so what if we were keeping track What would you say the number is As to like this attempted piece? Like I'd say like this is like number seven That the war's about to end I think it might be low You think? It might be higher
Starting point is 00:05:51 Wow, that's crazy to think It's the longest most serious, most signed on a paper version that we've seen so far. Again, I've said this from the beginning. I will give out the criticism like crazy and I have toward this administration and I don't regret a word as far as I'm concerned. Every single step of the way, we have seen them fuck up on this issue. It never should have started in the first place.
Starting point is 00:06:17 That said, I'm not one of these dogs that eats its fucking tail in the sense that when they stop it, I'm happy they stopped it. because that would mean it can't get worse. If that's the case, Joey D. Philippus, because you correctly point out, we've had a lot of stop goes. We've had a lot of, I guess, like, Glenn Greenwald five-step processes.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I forget exactly what he put in that tweet last week, but it was perfect. It's like the loop of this war. Yeah. The Iranians, it was like the Iranians are bad. All right, we've attacked them and taken out all their issues. All right, you have to stop this war. We're really going to kill you.
Starting point is 00:06:53 All right. we've made peace. All right, there's no peace. The Iranians are like repeat it. Something like that. Repeat it over and over again. And that is what we've seen. But you saw back in the beginning of March, I believe it was episode five, like a week after the war broke out. It might have been episode six. I'm referring to like the weekend episodes. So we had the one that came out the day the Iran war broke out, which was recorded a couple days before. So it's not, we weren't covering it in that episode, but that was on February 28th. I think it was the week after that, where I closed the episode for like 18 minutes, just laying out like from a journalistic perspective.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Mean that seriously. It's why I put that in air quotes right there. You know, there comes a time where you have to look at facts and you have to cover that as that is, including if it lands on one side or the other. And what I was referring to was the fact that there had been a blatant admission separately from Speaker Mike Johnson, from Marco Rubio, and then implicitly at the time from Donald Trump, all on the same day that we got into this war because Israel said they were going, so we had no choice but to go because they basically bluffed our way into having to join them into bomb in Iran. And I took serious issue with that. Later, when the White House would end up releasing, long after that episode, the official documentation on their website about
Starting point is 00:08:19 Operation Epic Fury and what it was, they admitted this in text as well. So it wasn't some fucking grave conspiracy theory to say the Israeli government pulled us into this war. It's exactly what it was. And since then, just to skip over many, many things and way over simplify this, I would love to go through all the points right now. But we have watched the Israelis litigate a war in Lebanon, take up land, displace tens of thousands, to hundreds of thousands of people from their homes. to quote the president this week, level entire buildings of civilians to try to kill one fucking Hezbollah guy
Starting point is 00:08:53 and have some of their main leaders we're going to talk about today openly call for ethnically cleansing the area. All that happening while they refused to put boots on the ground in Iran and we're pushing our government and our military to put our boots on the ground there and take the risk and, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:13 have our guys die on the battlefield, which I took serious issue. with at the time and we'll continue to take issue with. So I've seen this every step of the way. And my only goal, which frankly I have zero control over as just some asshole on YouTube, but at least in the way I express my opinions to all you guys, my only goal the whole way has been just to see it end and then we'll deal with it once it actually officially ends and figure out a way forward that's diplomatic, which includes being reasonable about people around the world from all countries, which includes also going through who is an enemy and who is an ally and maybe
Starting point is 00:09:51 maybe not treating any of them as either. Just treat everything neutrally. And to quote something J.D. Vance said this week, don't trust anybody. Don't trust the Iranians. Don't trust the Israelis. Don't trust the fucking British. You know, like, shout out to all our British fans out there. It's not the person. I'm talking about governments here, not like, you know, us normal folk right here. What happens is all these people obviously get in back rooms and they play fucking war games and we all have to sit here and collect the casualties in the air and have absolutely no control over it, which I know we were all frustrated with. I'm never going to hate people for being for being people. I am going to hate governments for being governments, including my own. So we will continue that today. But in Toronto, every arrival is a statement and nothing says it better than this. Cadillac Optic was the number one selling luxury EV in Canada for 2025. Find your rhythm across a
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Starting point is 00:11:26 They're not a demographic group. They're fans. Spotify advertising. You're among fans. Like I said, there's going to be a lot of different reactions. We're going to be breaking down. But, Dave, I do want to start with this part just so that we have literally outlined from the source what the main parts of this MOU are. The MOU stands for, I believe, Memorandum of Understanding, which is effectively a deal before the deal. That's my definition, not the official definition. You guys can look up the official definition. But what it was was a 14-point agreement that was signed electronically. and then I believe signed at the Versailles Palace
Starting point is 00:12:05 Defe officially by Donald Trump, which had interesting symbolism right there. You know, some real Treaty of Versailles shit. But, you know, maybe Macron pulled one on there like, you have to sign it in this palace. It's beautiful. And then he goes to sign. He's like, oh, fuck, he don't even know what he just did. But he later signed something there, which has these 14 points, which we're going to outline in a second the important parts of those, that basically says we're going to agree to stop the war at this time.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And over the next 60 days on a broad 30,000 foot in the view here, we're going to talk about economic sanctions being lifted with Iran provided that they follow some of the protocols that the United States is asking for as it relates to potentially developing nuclear weapons, which are big ifs right there. And what that also means is there's now effectively 60 days where the Israel lobby who threw a fucking shit fit this week, which was glorious to watch, by the way. But this lobby will be doing everything they can to sabotage this deal. And we're going to go through specific reports that have already happened where it's literally coming from the top, from Netanyahu. And I take issue with some of those things obviously right there, so we will call that out.
Starting point is 00:13:24 but there's a lot that can happen between now and what does that take us to deep mid-August yeah like august 20th yeah yeah we're gonna be sweating this out and we've already seen this week Israel and hesbola exchange fire and breaks these fires and stuff and like this is why it gets so confusing too so there was one i believe yesterday Thursday we're recording this Friday evening where four IDF soldiers were killed by Hezbollah drones. You know, we see anyone killed. Sorry to hear that. But it was four IDF soldiers in Lebanon.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Like, they're in Lebanon. They're on the land. Now, I'm not defending, like, terror groups and shit like that. I know the Lebanese government doesn't like Hezbollah, fully understand that and everything. But, like, it's not like they went and killed Israelis in Israel. But then you see the far right elements of Israel's government. after this happened, and we're going to talk about that, react to this as if, you know, this was like a complete act of war and they have to destroy all of Lebanon. Their words, not mine. That's where
Starting point is 00:14:31 this is a problem. And Donald Trump has called that out this week very blatantly. We will play some of those videos in a couple minutes of some of the things he said. And J.D. Vance has gone from what I would describe as months and months of stuttering and closing all of his statements, like it's a question, if you know what I mean, like tonal-wise, almost what I would call not believing in almost anything he says and looking clunky as a public speaker. He went from that to, I have to say, just from a performance perspective, regardless of what the motives are here, just from a strictly verbal performance perspective to the smoothest operator on the planet who didn't mince any words this week. And he went on this whole press tour, went to a bunch of places,
Starting point is 00:15:15 did all that. I do want to say, I've had a bunch of places. I've had a bunch of you guys reach out and say like, oh, you should have JD Vance on the show, put his feet to the fire or whatever. I've talked about this before and I'll say it again. I've always had a rule for six years and three plus months of doing this podcast that I don't bring on active politicians. I never say never on stuff. You know, you don't want to like lock yourself out of an unknown future, but I have been ironclad on that rule. And some people criticize that and I understand that and I accept that. But my thought process is I kind of got to have a Chinese wall here. I do not want to know these people personally, sit with them for three hours at a time,
Starting point is 00:15:54 you know, potentially have them all shucks me to death and make it feel like it's, for lack of a better way of putting it like a real human interaction and relationship. I need to be able to talk to these, talk about these people on shows like this or when I'm speaking with another guest from a level of being able to brutally criticize them or very much praise them depending on the context of what it is without having any type of skin in the game. And frankly, enough shows, whether it be podcasts, news networks, whatever, are getting guys like J.D. Vance on. You can hear what he has to say. You don't need him to come in here. I will react to some of it and I will break it down and I'll do it from a place of not knowing
Starting point is 00:16:32 the guy at all, which is where I prefer to be. So again, we're going to go through some of the stuff he said. But on the exact deal, some key terms. First thing I want to talk about, there was a pledge that the U.S. and regional partners will develop a reconstruction plan for Iran worth at least 300 billion with frozen asset released to be negotiated in the next phase. That is referring, obviously, to assets that have been frozen around the world as a result of economic sanctions, and it's referring to basically freeing up money that was not previously accessible to the Iranian government. There are people who are criticizing this as a repeat of the Obama 2015 Iran deal, which was heavily criticized and continues to be heavily criticized
Starting point is 00:17:20 by people like Donald Trump, as this is like the same thing except a lot more money. And I think some of that in theory is, no, seriously, I think some of that in theory is valid. It is a different thing. Like Obama was paying them directly, but what was it, like $1.5 billion or something like that? Yeah. It's just funny that he makes fun of it and he's about to 300 exit. Right. And it's not not it's not totally fair to say he's 300xing it with actually just paying them, but the end result is basically a 300x. I mean, that is what it is. So again, I'm happy this is coming to a close.
Starting point is 00:17:58 We never should have been here. We had to do this because the Strait of Hormuz is closed that was previously perfectly fucking open before we bombed them. So it's a disaster. But like, again, I'm not going to sit here and be like, this is a bad deal. Pull it from the table. Keep the war going. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I've said that from the beginning. I'm not going to switch up on that, but you guys need to know what's going into this deal. There are possible sanctions, relief, oil waivers, or access to frozen Iranian assets. Though the official text hasn't been released, the U.S. Iranian media descriptions differed on key details. So that's another thing, like what the actual bullets are on some of it, I think is still a little bit up for debate. But a lot of that's like also coming out fast on Twitter. So if you guys are already getting that here and you want to post that in the comments with some, links, please do that so that people watching the show can refer to that because I'm sure there will be updates by the time this comes out in about 18 hours.
Starting point is 00:18:49 So the biggest thing about the MOU that's been the contested part is Lebanon. And it's been most contested by the far right wing elements, the greater Israel elements of the Israeli government, be it Smotris, the finance minister, Ben Gavir, more on him in a little bit, the minister of national security, or, the defense minister Israel cats who have been adamant about taking the land in southern Lebanon, which they currently do possess right now and destroying the homes, which they have. They bombed them en masse and telling the people that had lived there that they can never return. Again, this is like, you know, maybe the Geneva Conventions, whatever you want to say, the literal definition of ethnic cleansing, that's neither here nor there. But Netanyahu said Israel was not bound by the agreement right away, would preserve its freedom and action against Hezbollah threats in Lebanon.
Starting point is 00:19:45 National Security Minister Ben-Gavir says Trump's agreement does not bind us. Y'all can fuck off. I'll tell you what. I'm kind of previewing some clips that are coming, but when we pay for two-thirds of your weaponry to protect yourself and fund you guys up the ass, no pun intended there, we get to say how it goes, Malaga. You don't get to say how it goes. So I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:20:12 If you tell us how it goes, no problem. Fight them on your own. Go ahead. We'll sit here and watch. I don't want you to do that, to be clear. Like, I'm not rooting for that. But I'm just saying, like, you want to fuck around, that's the Y axis. The X axis is find out.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Right? Like, some people never got hit in high school who deserved it. Yeah. And it shows. These people went to private schools. I don't know if they went to, I have no idea. Yeah, I'm not making it. I saw plenty.
Starting point is 00:20:42 went to private school. I saw plenty of people get hit in private school. But like, man, does it show? Not an advocate for bullying, but maybe the bullies getting bullied wouldn't be the worst thing ever. Israeli officials said troops would remain in a wide section of southern Lebanon. They've effectively occupied for the last three and a half months again to keep their, I guess, like greater Israel plans going there, displacing tens of thousands of residents. Iran disputes this reading. their financial minister told diplomats the two parties to the MOU are the United States and Israel on one side and Iran and Hezbollah on the other and said any further Israeli attack on Lebanon or continued occupation would be a violation. Spokesman Baghei warned a continue IDF presence would mean annulment of the MOU. That's not a good sign.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Since we cannot talk about ending the war while parts of Lebanese territory remain under the occupation of the Zionist entity. You know, I don't like that it. Iran obviously is not only cozyed up to Hezbollah, but like funds them too and everything. You have to look at what the IDF in Israel is doing to the greater Lebanese population, though. These aren't all Hezbollah people, a very small fraction of them are. It is real people of all different denominations, Drews, D-R-U-Z-E, Christians, Shiite Muslims, and then Hezbollah guys that are paying the price for this. So it's not just as simple as like, yes, the Irish.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Iranian regime saying this thing and aligning them with those people. I don't like that. But there are a lot of other collateral damage happening in the middle. And unfortunately, we have given the Iranian regime leverage to be able to dictate things like this because they have proven, unfortunately, that, you know, this is not like an easy invasion and an easy takeover and where regime change is going to happen. J.D. Vance criticized Israeli operations in Lebanon for sometimes getting in the way of the negotiations and also criticize members of the Israeli government for attacking Trump. We're going to play those clips in a minute over the deal. And then this morning, three diplomats told, as in Friday morning, told CBS News that Israel and Hezbollah agreed to a ceasefire
Starting point is 00:22:54 in Lebanon first reported by Reuters scheduled to begin at 9 a.m. Eastern Friday following the deadliest flare-up and fighting between the two sides since the MOU was reached. And again, I just have to go off of people's words here when the MOU wasn't even out for two minutes. Netanyahu who already commented as we already laid out that they don't consider themselves a part of this agreement because by the way, in a rare W for this administration, which was basically like Israel West, you know, they did not include Israel in these talks. And when Israel, according to reports, asked to see the MOU before it was signed, that offer was declined, which is great to finally hear that again, we'll believe this one. We see this stuff long term, but it's a good first little step right
Starting point is 00:23:45 there for sure. So let's pull up. Sager and Genti from breaking points stated right from the out the get-go what I had put out front here. So I want to give him credit for that. He said the next 65 days, this is on June 15, so about four days ago. The next 65 days until the final deal is signed will be the greatest fight in the Israel lobby's history. They will stop at nothing to derail it. the closer it gets the more unhinged will become perhaps the highest-stakes 65 days in modern history. I don't think he's exaggerating there. I do agree with him. Right now, like crystal ball, if I could go forward in time maybe two years, I won't go farther than that because it gets really impossible. If this goes through and this is actually signed and then things just stay status quo,
Starting point is 00:24:35 Iran and Israel stay hating each other, they say shit about each other, once in a while a rocket goes back and forth, but no war happens. Strader Hormuz is open, you know, gas prices aren't fucking insane and the world's not crumbling and potentially devolving into world war, then this will be a good thing. So when Sager says that, that's what it's hinging on because the opposite of what I just said is very, very bad, potentially. Ben Shapiro didn't like the deal. Old Ben.
Starting point is 00:25:09 You see, he's got to advertise his. his whole podcast is like an ad on YouTube, like the whole thing plays. It's unreal. It's, you want to talk about, he's crushing it. You want to talk about someone who can't read a room. You know, there's, there's a famous scene in one of my favorite movies of all time and glorious bastards, spoiler alert, where some undercover spies are in a basement with a bunch of Nazis. And the undercover spies are a British guy and a couple of,
Starting point is 00:25:40 couple Americans who are dressed in fake SS uniforms trying to pass as Nazis. And a Nazi eventually comes over and wants to drink with them, starts getting drunk and won't leave. And the British officer who speaks fluent German basically tells the guy to fuck off. And they have like this tense standoff. And then the guy starts laughing. And he says, all right, one more drink. And so they order a scotch. and the British guy puts up his fingers like this and goes, Trey-Glazzi or something like that in German. And immediately the real Nazi finds him out. Because apparently, I don't know anything about this,
Starting point is 00:26:21 maybe my German fans can help. Apparently in German, at least in that time period, they would say three like that instead of like that. I say all this because there were a lot of moments like this this week with people like Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin when it comes to like where their loyalty and priorities lie. So let's start with Ben Shapir's first reaction right here. Just enjoy this gloriousness.
Starting point is 00:26:42 His eyebrows keep getting bigger. I'm noticing that Mohamed Khalibov, who will, apparently, on Friday, you literally in a photo op with the vice president of the United States. I cannot express to you how stomach turning that is. I don't care who the vice president is. I don't care who the president is. Leaders of the United States of America in a photo op with a mass murdering terrorist supporter like Muhammad Khalibov shaking hands.
Starting point is 00:27:09 A mass murdering terrorist supporter. You'll get no arguments from me on him describing that guy that way. That's fine. Now look in the mirror. Please continue. Six months after he blew away 42,000 innocent people in the streets and weeks after he was his administration. Okay. Plus, I real quick.
Starting point is 00:27:32 First of all, we don't know that it was 42,000. That said one life is awful to me. And they did kill people in the streets by the thousands when the economic. when the economic sanctions that we put on them in January kicked in and people took to the streets in Iran and when the U.S. also tried to arm people at Israel's behest in Iran, which caused this whole thing and all that and where there were with Mossad spies undercover, neither here nor are there. But how many people has Israel killed in Gaza, Dief? Can we pull that up?
Starting point is 00:28:00 I just, I want to go shot for shot with Ben. I think that, you know, just from like a journalistic fairness perspective, not that he cares about that at all. I would just love to get that date out. Since October 7th? Yeah, since October 7th. Let's start there. We got 70,000 Palestinians killed, 170,000 injured, and estimated that thousands of people remain missing
Starting point is 00:28:29 and presumed buried beneath the rubble. I think we've all seen imagery at Gaza. It doesn't look too great. Now, how many people have been killed and ethnically displaced from regions in Lebanon since the beginning of just this war this year. No American troops in that situation, by the way. Just want to point that out. It's all IDF. 4,000 people and 12,000 injured at least 1.2 million Lebanese. Over 20% of the country's population has been internally displaced by the fighting. Okay, let's go back to Ben Shapiro.
Starting point is 00:29:05 He don't look at numbers like that. He goes, it's against his religion. He can't do that. Literally all of our allies in the region and continues to support every terrorist group in the region and is currently continuing to control the straight. Like right now. Okay, pause it. The straight that was perfectly not a problem prior to February 28th because assholes like this told the president to going through the war. I'd remind you, Ben Shapiro was like the guy who was never Trump back in 2016.
Starting point is 00:29:36 He wanted to press charges against someone on maybe Lewandowski on Trump's campaign for like touching some reporter at Breitbart where Ben. resigned from at the time he hated him and then suddenly when Trump was like good on israel, he's like greatest president in my lifetime. Also, Ben Shapiro is the same guy to advocate for the Iraq war. I mean, I could go on, but let's continue. It is not fully open for business unless the Iranians have quote unquote decided it is. The idea here is that somehow this administration and the deal that has been cut weakens Hezbollah. I'm not seeing it so much.
Starting point is 00:30:13 You're not seeing it. Okay, I've heard it. I can't even be to this anymore. You're not seeing it. You haven't seen all the buildings that they knocked down where they killed thousands of people just to get one fucking guy. How about the Pager operation a couple years ago where they blew them all up like it was the fourth of fucking July in two seconds? They're not weakened? What is weakened? Does everybody have to die? Does every, Ben, like just, I know you're not watching this, but if you were, does everybody have to die? Everybody who's not like within the borders of Israel. I just, just, you know, Just asking for a friend.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Let's go to the next one where he talks about Vance. So one of the funniest things this week is that so many of these people who have throated Trump into, I mean, perpetuity basically, are feeling so self-conscious, apparently except Josh Hammer, to like go at Trump now because they're like, oh my God, he's actually like switching up, that they're labeling it the Vance deal because they think like suddenly J. took control the fucking organization and decided to make this deal and basically sideline Trump, which I'm willing to say that probably didn't happen. But this is Ben Shapiro reacting to the MOU as it pertains to Jady Vance's role within it. That said, this MOU appears to be just from the text, a disaster that does not achieve any of the actual signal goals that were set by the administration at the beginning. There are effectively five goals that were set by the administration at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:31:44 When it was ending the nuclear program, not just nuclear weapons, no nuclear enrichment, zero enrichment. That is not in the deal. Ballistic missiles ended. That is not in the deal. And the president today suggested that ballistic missiles should actually continue to be held by the Iranians. Because the Saudis, our allies also hold ballistic missiles. Then you have the support of terrorism. That is not part of the deal.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Anything that looks like an attempt to end terrorism, a permanent opening of the straight-of-form lose toll-free. Not only is that not in the deal, the deal appears to have a provision allowing Iran and Oman to attempt to toll. the straits after 60 days. And then finally, in the idea that Iran would receive some sort of sanctions relief after all of those things happen, we are already seeing from day one relief in their ability to ship oil out of Iran. In my opinion, the vice president of the United States, the chief negotiator on this particular project has not well served the president. All right. So I obviously like some of those points aren't even correct, but. Staple's Preferred Business Membership, built for busy business owners,
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Starting point is 00:33:06 The days are longer, the calendar's filling up, and I want to feel as good as this beautiful summer weather. That's why I've been loving grooms. It's one daily pack of gummies that covers my greens, vitamins, minerals, and even has six grams of prebiotic fiber, so I don't need to juggle a complicated wellness routine on top of everything else. They taste amazing. They're easy to toss in my bag on the go. Plus, they're vegan, gluten-free, and HSA-FSA eligible for reimbursement. Save up to 52% off with code podcast at grooms.co. That's code podcast at grunns.com. It's just funny because that's where he wants to go. He can't, he can't say, like if he's going to criticize and obviously like, I disagree with him on this, but he can't just be like, yeah, what the fuck is Trump doing? He has to be, oh, it must be the fucking vice president doing this.
Starting point is 00:33:55 He's just like this weird fucking terminally online guy the whole time. But there's no one. as entertaining as Ben Shapiro is, and it does get entertaining listening to him, there is no one who it is more glorious to revel in the misery of than one Mark Levine. And if you follow me on Twitter X, you know, I just, I can't help myself sometimes. I'll be honest. Like, y'all don't see the tweets I backspace. That's 99% of them.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Most never make it depressed. But it's just once in a while, it's a couple times a week where it's just so much fun to go with this guy. who is a fucking boomer to end all boomers who's got no audience, a completely paid for following on Twitter that's not real, talks to people in nursing homes on the weekend on Fox News and has a voice that could make a fucking record stop is, deep like that one, is now also terrified to criticize Trump. He's also just going at J.D. Vance and totally turning on him. And essentially, is devastated by this deal, the war pig, Mark Levin. Mark Levin never saw a war that he couldn't watch other people die. And this is a guy, I mean, he's been loving war since he was with the Reagan
Starting point is 00:35:11 administration back in the 80s. This is the same guy who was advocated during this war repeatedly to continue arming rebel groups in Iran. And I'm just citing his logic here. We did it in Afghanistan during the Reagan administration. As if that worked well. Let me just take a little trip down historical memory lane. The people that we armed in Afghanistan during the Reagan administration were called the Mujah Hadin. Doesn't even matter what that means. One of the people in the Mujah Hadim was one Osama bin Laden. How'd that turn out? Not too great, right? I think, Dief, I think if we could do a do over there, it's probably one we'd do over, right? Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah. It's good for biz. It's good for biz, though. It's very good for biz. They need weapons. We got
Starting point is 00:36:00 weapons, it's like boardwalk empire. He got gun, they got gun, everybody got guns. Yep. And then everyone's got to pay for it later. But Mark Levin advocates for that. My favorite part about Mark Levin, who has never so much has seen a battlefield on call of duty, let alone a battlefield in the Middle East, is that this guy keeps trying to, again, think of those three fingers in the air right here, keep stressing the fact that our great ally has put Israel, has put so much effort into this war and quote, you said this multiple times, fought right beside us. Can we pull up that tweet deep? I want to make sure people know I'm not making this up.
Starting point is 00:36:37 He's already got it. Appalling. They fought right beside us, referring to the Israelis. Now we celebrate talks with the enemy and the enemy knows more than our ally. This is shocking. That was him reacting to finding out that Israel was basically left out of the MOU agreement. Again, I love the melting pot in our country. I love the fact that we have people from all different types of places.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I don't have anyone in my bloodlines, I believe, that was here maybe before like 1890 or 1900. I think that's an amazing thing. I think it is, it makes us one of the greatest experiments ever. And obviously there's growing pains with things like that. But I love the fact that we have a lot of cultures that can come together and then have one great American culture where we prioritize that. People like Mark Levin, I don't think are about America, though. I think they're much more about their other culture. And what happens is they then claim to speak for all Jews, which JD Vance also cooked on that this week, which is totally unfair because then there's a lot of people who are like, I don't support what's going on over there.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I'm Jewish. Like, this has nothing to do with me. I'm an American. And Mark Levin's like, you're a traitor for that. Well, who's a traitor here, Mark? So one of the other things is Mark Levine kept on talking about, you know, when Trump started this Iran war. and he was calling it like, I mean, he would call it the Iran war, but then he's like, no, it's a military action to like get around the whole Congress has to approve a war type thing. Mark Levin would be like, oh yeah, Congress needs nothing to do with this.
Starting point is 00:38:07 But, but, but then an MOU happens and suddenly the fighting is going to stop. And his buddy Benjamin Netanyahu calls him up freaking out going, Mark, the president has turned on Israel. I need you to, more on this in a minute, because this is actually real. I need you to come to our aid and discuss how important it is that we do not pull out of this. war. You know, so Mark Levin's like, oh, no, now we need Congress. Let's, let's run the tape on this. DVR, Mark Levine. I forgot about that. Congress is going to review it. Congress is going to review it. Because that's not discussed either. Yes, Congress will have to look at this. I love that he needs to read.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Most importantly, they're going to look at whether this deal can be upheld, I suspect. Now we need them. Now, this should be treated as a treaty, as a treaty under the Constitution for we constitutional conservatives. Oh! Democrats and all Republicans but one, Tom Cotton, all of them decided not to apply the treaty requirements under the Constitution
Starting point is 00:39:10 to the Obama-Oran nuclear deal. So that's where we are. Now, what does the Constitution actually say if it was followed? What does it tell us, Mark? Section 2 Clause 2. The president shall have power by and with the advice and consent of the Senate to make treaties provided two-thirds of the
Starting point is 00:39:30 senators present concur. The Senate, two-thirds of the senators present concur. Mark. Will Obama realize- Mark, you can pause it. It's not a treaty. It's an MOU. You were okay when they were calling the first one a military operation, not a war, because that suited your purposes. But now your bloodthirsty war is going to end, maybe. And oh, now we're looking at the terminology. It's a treaty. All the thing. And I love that he's got to like, his whole show is like him craned like this and he's got
Starting point is 00:40:00 to like read off a prepared fucking full speech and then look up every two seconds. Congress is going to come in and it's a treaty. He's like, I've tweeted this before, but he's like that fucking dude in South Park who teaches them about bullying and then Cartman just bullies him. Yeah. And he's like, your words cannot hurt me. And Carman's like, oh my God, look at this fucking ass out over here. He's like, anything you say can't knock me down.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Knock you down. You're already three feet off the ground. Like, that is Mark Levin. You just want to wedge the guy. Ah, so much fun. The best is when he tweets out, like the promo for his show on the weekend that nobody watches and says, if you're going to miss it, make sure you DVR it. My guy.
Starting point is 00:40:51 2002 called. They want their TiVo back. That's not what this is. Like, how disconnected from the world are you when you're saying things like this? But this is someone who's had the presidents here. I'm not even going to play this video. It was the gayest thing I've heard this week. But he was like on air the other day talking about, you know, because he won't criticize Trump as much as he wants to. So Trump is flying back from France after he signed this MOU that Mark Levine hates. He's like, you know, everyone who's saying that I'm falling out with Trump, we're fine. He's. He's, he's, he's, He might criticize me. Like, I can take it. But, you know, I'm texting with him right now. These are love. I think he called him love texts. I wish I could show you guys these. But that same Mark Levin who says extremely not heterosexual things like that is also the guy who, again, American, American-born Mark Levine.
Starting point is 00:41:43 This is where I take issue. I'm going to play this clip of him given a veiled threat right here. and you tell me, let's just play it. Let's just play it. I strongly disagree with something the president said today. I heard him say one other time too, which is, if we hadn't attacked Iran, Israel would not exist. It would have been destroyed. That's simply not true.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Simply not true. For 12 days, Israel fought a year ago. They fought against the Iranian regime. before we did, destroyed its ground air missiles, destroyed its Soviet slash Russian radar systems, destroyed much of its air force, destroyed much of any of its defenses for 12 days. We went in on the 13th day. Minimally, right? Minimally, right?
Starting point is 00:42:52 Minimized what we did. And those bombs, and we hit those nuclear sites. maximize what they did minimize us but Israel has some very very powerful weapons that it has not used I don't know this firsthand just go online and read about it it's a secret that's not so secretive and they've had him for decades decade Israel will survive period that's like a mob boss I hate to even give him that kind of cred I think he's missing a white chromosome but like that's like a mob boss right there. You hear things like that. That's not like he's talking like he is
Starting point is 00:43:36 Israeli. He's not. Stop doing that. And by the way, I just, we're not going to play this one because we have so much to get to. But Jimmy Dory had, I always get that wrong phonetically in my head. Is it Jimmy Dore? Jimmy Dore. Yeah. Right? I have it right. You said Jimmy Dory. I know. It's my name without the why that like in my head I'll hear it the other way. Like, oh, Jimmy Dore. But anyway, he has a great show. Obviously, he's been at it for years and years and years. But he had an amazing reaction this week to Mark Levin basically chastising his viewers, all 10 of them, about them daring to complain about gas prices and shit like that because Iran is Hitler and we need to stop Nazi Germany and they can't have a nuke and we need to bomb their whole fucking population and yada, yada, yada. And it's like the contempt he has and the separation a guy like this has from the average American is, I'd say it's laughable if not criminal.
Starting point is 00:44:36 It's just plain sad. And the fact that, you know, he wants to have a voice in the discussion. Hey, it's free speech. He absolutely should have a voice out there. And under the laws of the First Amendment, I should be able to say you're fucking retribal. So, you know, and can we mark that by the way? Of course. But, you know, that's just, that's kind of what it is.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But another report that came out this week that should surprise absolutely nobody is the fact that Netanyahu is planning to use direct like this is the direct report. Right wing figures, U.S. figures, including Mark Levine to influence Trump, which let me just read the first few paragraphs of this right here. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, this is from the Times of Israel, by the way. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu plans to use pro-Israel senators and right-wing media personalities to influence the terms of a final agreement between the U.S. and Iran. CNN reports citing an Israeli source. Netanyahu believes a final deal with Iran will be secured, but that Tehran will not fulfill its obligations under the agreement, the source says. He plans to use media figures such as Fox News, Mark Levine, and pro-Israel politicians to get his message across to Trump. Again.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I want you guys to go to a room for a minute. dream with me, all right? Close your eyes. I'm waiting for optics to come out. It's not just optics, Steve. It's not, I'm fiendin' over here, okay? It's not just optics. And you know what? It's also the right time of year right now and also a very interesting anniversary coming up. The year is 1776. You are in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. There's like 30, 40,000 people that live there. But right over the Delaware River in that spot. There's a beautiful building where there's a lot of guys meeting from all different colonies,
Starting point is 00:46:29 13 at the time, to discuss the tyranny of the British government and what they were going to do about it. And this one motherfucker who's got some bars, right? Like a, you know, flawed guy, but certainly had some bars with a fucking pen or whatever it was they used back then, a feather and quill. This guy Thomas Jefferson walks in. And it's July 2nd. He's like, listen, yo. Me and Ben Franklin been back there working on this draft of what I did. We cooked. Like, this is what it is. We're trying to make our own country where we get to decide what happens here. Now, I want you to imagine someone in that room was a time traveler. And they're dressed apart and everything. They're talking the regular lingo at the time. They got the wig on, whatever, you know, the fucking high socks they would wear and whatever those shoes were that the cobblers would make.
Starting point is 00:47:19 and they say, yo, yo, yo, yo, that's cool and all. And by the way, we're going to end up winning this war. So let's sign that shit and get this thing going. But, you know, 250 years from now, there's going to be this other war that's going on and everything. And another nation, it doesn't matter what nation it is, is going to openly declare that they're going to be using people that live in our country and we're born in our country to influence us to have more of our people die and continue this war that's not in our end. interests, you know, what do you guys think about that? I have a feeling knives might come out in that scenario. I don't know. I just felt like I was in that room. I don't know if you guys out there felt like you were in that room, but probably not going to be a great reaction right there
Starting point is 00:48:02 because that's kind of what this nation was built on. I think there was an exact phrase, beware of foreign influence, right? Yeah, and those are constitutionalists like Mark Levine. Just like Mark Levine. You know what? Oh my God, that's perfect. Mark would have been in the room, too. You would have been like, you know what? You make a good point. You make a really good point. Let me just call up Ben and tell him I'm sorry. They went to the same high school in Sheltonham, by the way. I don't know if you know that.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Of course. Not at the same time in Mark Levine's defense. It was after, but they did go to the same high school. And, you know, Mark Levine was also at Benjamin Netanyahu's trial that he's extremely guilty in and keeps delaying as a show of support a couple years ago. Nice. So he just seemed, Mark Levine just seems to be like an amazing patriot. and American, as he calls himself.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And I can't wait to see if this does continue this trend. If Trump ends up ripping him, the devastation. That would be a fun one. The devastation. There will be a mug over there for an episode that says Mark Levin's tears on it. And it will be glorious. It will be absolutely glorious. But yeah, you should not be okay with a foreign leader openly talking about how he's going
Starting point is 00:49:11 to undermine our nation's interests by using our own people. I don't even care if that includes paying them to influence. the president of the United States. And it would be sad if not for the fact, we already know that openly happens all the time. And it's not just Israel either. Israel is one that we pick on a lot because they happen to have some of the only organizations
Starting point is 00:49:32 that are not registered under FARA. But we got that problem in a lot of places. And by the way, we also got that problem with a lot of corporations that emanate in this country who do things every day funding the politicians we have that are not in the interest of us, the people. If we were just in Europe,
Starting point is 00:49:48 We ate fucking great. Were you ever sick? No. Yeah, because they don't have shit in their fucking food over there. I wonder who influences that. You know? Like, why are our companies here from America putting glyphazade on all of the crops and all this shit that we got to eat, as RFK would say. Like, they're doing it all the time. That's neither here nor there. Let's stay on this point. Oh, great American, true patriot, Mike Huckabee also, wait in on this.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Now, again, this. Again, Donald Trump's not really a guy that's like into the whole not being loyal to what he does for better or worse. And there's a lot of worse scenarios with that where someone just says one thing and they maybe have been great to him forever. And then he just destroys them and pretends he hated them at all times. But it's really interesting that he hasn't criticized publicly his ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee. and I would also say hasn't fired the guy at this point after a lot of failures in his job. But right after the deal was made, Mike Huckabee had this to say. It's also my job to represent the importance of Israel to the United States.
Starting point is 00:51:02 That's not your job. This is just another reminder that it is your heritage without a doubt. But minister, it is also the heritage of the United States. United States without Israel, without the Jewish foundation, there would not be an America. Okay. Close that. Last I checked when this country was founded over 160 years ago when the Constitution was ratified and, you know, 250 years ago when you had the Declaration of Independence, the
Starting point is 00:51:33 1948 creation of a state called Israel, it's a separate issue over how people feel about that or whatever. I'm not calling that out as this thing. I'm just saying it was 150, 160. under 70 years later. It didn't exist at that time. They weren't talking about that in Philadelphia in 1776. Like, hey, by the way, when we become a country, we're going to set this up and make sure
Starting point is 00:51:54 we're following the laws of this country called Israel over there. It was not a thing. The biblical Israel and the 1948 state of Israel are not the same fucking thing. Don't tell that to Ted Cruz. Don't tell that to Mike Huckabee. But like the brainwashing nature of something like this, like how. fucked in the head you have to be to say that when your job is U.S. ambassador. You're not Israeli ambassador, my guy. You are a U.S. ambassador.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Same U.S. ambassador, by the way, who back when he was a congressman was openly advocating for the release from prison of Jonathan Pollard, an American-born Israeli spy, who was one of the most damaging spies in modern history, and who then advocated for Jonathan Pollard to be repatriated, excuse me, patriated, because he wasn't from there, to Israel, which he was on the Adelson's jet in 2020, the Adelson's who paid Donald Trump a lot of fucking money. The same Mike Huckabee, who then met with Jonathan Pollard at the U.S. Embassy last summer, admitted this. Meeting with Jonathan Pollard at the embassy.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I don't know how to talk about like a kumbaya session or something, one of the greatest spies in American history. So much so that the other people in the State Department, were stunned that on any level, let alone at the embassy itself, the U.S. ambassador would ever hold an audience with that person who, by the way, is running for Israeli Knesset and part of his platform is let's nuke Gaza. Am I crazy? Like, am I crazy to be upset about this? I don't know. You can check me, Dave. I don't know. I'm wondering the same. I don't know. Josh Hammer also weighed in. Josh Hammer, to his credit. I will give him this.
Starting point is 00:53:43 The other guys we've talked about, they're trying to like throw this on Vance and everything. Josh Hammer did go right to Trump. But this was, what is this from? Who's talking? This is Matt Gates. So Matt Gates is just going over a couple tweets he had. Let's just play this real quick. More clear which team the Israel first crowd roots for when American and Israeli interests
Starting point is 00:54:06 diverge. Josh Hammer is a maximalist for the Israel. He praised President Trump for intervening in Iran earlier this year when he believed the war was in Israel's interest, writing, I have no idea why so many people seem to think we were going to get Barack Obama's foreign policy when they voted for Trump. Maga isn't Obamaism, and thank God for that.
Starting point is 00:54:31 But now that Hammer is having to choose between America's interest in making a peace deal or Israel's interest of expansion and chaos, he pulled the U-term on Trump for choosing peace. Just yesterday, Hammer wrote, has Donald Trump had his Barack Obama moment on Iran? It's so funny. That's good enough to deal.
Starting point is 00:54:53 That's right there. It's just more and more. Let's pull up the Lumer tweet as well. Now, I usually don't address this guy because he's extremely weird and has serious psychological problems and everything. But unfortunately, he does have a following on X and all that. Tweets out a lot of bullshit and says a lot of bullshit. This is the same dude who years ago was having issues with being deplatformed on Twitter
Starting point is 00:55:21 and had people come to his aid about everything that's going on and, you know, basically try to get him re-platformed despite some of the shit he was saying. And like, again, I believe in free speech, everyone should be platformed. But this dude was also talking about having Elon ban the account track APAC, which simply puts out pictures of U.S. politicians and the amount that, that through public information, APAC or APAC-related groups have donated to them, but this person doesn't like that narrative, so they want them banned. Shoes always on the other foot and, you know, you become the person that steps.
Starting point is 00:55:56 But what he tweeted out this week, this is from at Laura Luma on Twitter. Soon there will be a massive Islamic terror attack in America, and the perpetrators will likely have financial ties to podcasters and those who are showing discord for foreign nations in America. I predict there will be many casualties, and only then will it may be said in that people have been conned into supporting a terrorist siop to distract you from the threat of Islam while the enemy plotted to destroy our country from within with bodied conspiracy theories. It will likely be 10 times worse than 9-11.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And I quoted this and said, it's the way this guy clearly wants an attack to happen that pisses me off more than anything. Read that tone and then also like watch him talk on his shows. And I'm saying that all tongue in cheek. This is Laura Lumer. She's a chick, obviously, but She doesn't look like one. But, you know, watch how she talks about everything to properly gender her or whatever. And tell me that she is not sitting there seething, frothing at the mouth, rooting for that to happen. These are not nice things to put out into the atmosphere because she gets to sit behind a keyboard while predicting things and hoping for things where real people in the world will die and fuck people that do shit like that.
Starting point is 00:57:06 You also saw, by the way, this week, the paid shills like the Ted Cruz's come out and say, America's safer because of Israel and just whatever lines they're paid to say because they've gotten millions of dollars from APEC center, Rick Scott, talked to the IDF today who ensured him that they're doing everything to protect all the Christians in Lebanon, despite the fact that we've seen plenty of evidence that, you know, they're knocking down crosses, taking hammers to Jesus' head and all that. And, you know, it's like the old CIA headline. The CIA investigated itself for selling crack in Los Angeles and detected no wrongdoing. It's basically what Rick Scott, who's funded up the ass by APEC came out and said.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And then you have guys like Dr. Eli David on Twitter calling Megan Kelly an anti-Semite and yelling at JD Vance for going on her show, which is absolutely ridiculous. Megan Kelly is the farthest thing from an anti-Semite. And the way these people will wield a weapon like that to label anyone who so much as dares to criticize the Israeli government as an anti-Semite is ridiculous. I've said since the beginning of this war and I will repeat it again. I hate having to do this. I do not fuck with the Iranian regime at all. I think they're awful. I hope one day there are people free themselves of that and overthrow it. It's not our job to go in there and do regime change because unfortunately the world's not that simple.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And to quote J.D. Vance, if you want to create a 90 million population fucking Libya in the Middle East, but it's Iran, that's not good for America's interest. And I do agree with him there. I also think that being able to criticize a government is absolutely within the bounds at any time. I criticize my own fucking decaying, horrible government every single week. on this show. When I criticize China, I am not xenophobic. When I criticize Russia, I am not Russophobic. When I criticize Ukraine, I'm not Ukrainophobic. When I criticize Saudi, I'm not fucking anglophobic. But when I criticize Israel, apparently I'm anti-Semitic and you can't talk about it. Fuck you. And that is exactly what is going to foment racism in this country so much that people who are Jewish who do not support what Israel is doing are going to be roped in with that. And as we've said many times before, when you look at the Benavirs,
Starting point is 00:59:08 when you look at the Smotritch's. When you look at the Netanyahu's, that's kind of the plan. Can we play Ari Ben Manashi real quick before I get to Trump in advance? Ari Ben Manashi is a long time for the last 30, 40 years dissident to Israel.
Starting point is 00:59:28 He's a guy who's an Israeli spy and says a lot of things. I'll even say this just to be like journalists to be fair. I'm not so sure everything he says is true by any stretch. Obviously he has a bone to pick. You have to take that into account.
Starting point is 00:59:40 But they always just label him they being like the Israeli government as a pure dissident who lies about every single thing just because he hates them. And I don't think that's fair at all. I think there's things where he's probably over the target and you out there should be able to decide what that is. But he has some interesting things to say about the lanes Netanyahu might go to if Donald Trump doesn't play ball exactly how he wants to on Iran. And here's what he said. If there's a real deal between the Americans and the Iranians and it's going towards that, Netanyahu will try to sabotage it. One of the ways
Starting point is 01:00:13 you'd sabotage it is by putting out abstin material against U.S. government officials, including Trump. That's nice. And you put it out there. New material that
Starting point is 01:00:29 wasn't seen before in the public. So it's not just Trump. I know that Howard Lutnik is mentioned. There are other officials. And not just Trump, other officials too, yes. And he'll try to sabotage the whole negotiation and deal that would be, that they're trying to make together. If there's a real...
Starting point is 01:01:03 Well, that's about par for the course and it took about 56 minutes, but pure spec here, obviously. That's the first time we saw. said that today, pure spec from Ari Ben Manashi, pure spec the Netanyahu has that kind of power as it relates to Epstein. I technically don't know on that. I certainly have my suspicions. But like Saeger said in his tweet that we read a little bit ago, it is certainly going to be very, very interesting for the next 60, 65 days as we try to get to this deal. But let's start with Trump talking about the state of the relationship with Israel. the other day. This was at the G7 summit on Tuesday morning after all this was coming out.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And he starts to let loose in a way we've never heard him let loose. Go ahead, Dief. Are you frustrated with Ned Yaluks there? No, we have a great relationship. We're talking about some end details. I didn't like that he did an attack based on a, you know, there's a very minor, little thing with some drones that were released. And he ends up I saw that attack. I saw where that bomb went. Did you see what that happened? That was not, that was a vicious, that was too much. Too much. You know, you can do too much also.
Starting point is 01:02:22 But we have a very effective relationship. Without us, without the United States, there would be no Israel. Without me, there would be no Israel. Just going back and forth still. I've had a great relationship with BB, but now BB has to do. be more responsible with respect to Lebanon. Lebanon used to be a great country. It was a country where you had professors, doctors, lawyers.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Still does, by the way. The great intellect was in Lebanon. Now it's just, it's terrible. I would say of all countries, they've been treated the worst. They've been treated the worst. And they can't defend themselves. And they have Hezbollah, which is a problem. I pause that.
Starting point is 01:03:06 There's three more minutes on this one. This was the first time he spoke this week. But as the week went on, the truth serum started to set in. Hit that oil one thief. That's perfect. He says this. This is like, you want to talk about honesty. About as honest as it gets.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I'm going to get bad press. I know that. Now, if I did the opposite, if I went out and continued to bomb them for another floor, just bomb the hell out of them. I'd get bad press on that. No, there's nothing I can do. But what this does is, it allows the ships to go.
Starting point is 01:03:42 If we keep bombing, those ships won't be going. And you're talking about $500, $600, $700, $700 million a day. A day. It's a lot of money. A lot of money. That's why the world is okay. It's liquid. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Also, we run out of reserves in about four weeks. You know, there are reserves all over the world. And we would really run out. And there'll be a time when you wouldn't be able to get it. And you want to see dead. So for all that. So he's admitting that this has, gotten to the end of where the dynamite starts to meet where the bomb is on the fuse.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And I actually appreciate that candor because we've gotten none of that to this point in the war. And we've been pounded in the table about the economic implications and the 10th order effects of this thing if this keeps going. And there he is admitting it out loud, which I'm not saying is the smartest thing to admit in the middle of a negotiation, but like it's refreshing to finally hear what we were all looking at and saying what the fuck on. let's also hit the hit the trump netin yah hussein thing so this came out
Starting point is 01:04:44 i think today axios interviewed trump and as the week's gone on like i said he's gotten a little more honest about some things seemingly but he's also turned up the heat himself a little bit on the relationship cut to 10 seconds because it's like a preview or something
Starting point is 01:05:02 right there yeah if it weren't for donald Trump and baby Netanyahu worked well with me, but he will tell you, we're the ones with the guns, we're the ones with the whole deal, we're the ones with the B2 bombers, et cetera. If it weren't for Donald Trump, Israel would have been eviscerated. Your relationship with Netanyahu's... It's good, but we have to keep them a little bit sane. Are you going to be able to control Israel from attacking Lebanon?
Starting point is 01:05:35 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can. I mean, I wonder. How's that going? They have a lot of respect for me. They do? And they do as I say.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Okay, let's pause it right there. They do as you say. Well, they've already bombed them like fucking six times this week. So that's not true. And also Donald Trump was beloved in Israel until about last Sunday. And then the polls flipped on him. He went from like 70% approval rating to 70% this approval rating. So I know apparently they're very grateful over there for all the fucking fighting
Starting point is 01:06:05 the war that, you know, we've done on their behalf to allow them to do all this bullshit in Lebanon. But that just goes to show you what it is. And then the clip of Hamas. Like, this is how far it's gone this week. You got that one? The Hamas one. Yeah. Also, why is Howard Lutnik there? I know it's the G7, but just I fucking, I can't. Go ahead. It's my hope that the peace agreement will be the beginning of a much larger deal all across the Middle East. We're very close. Look at the job we've done in Gaza.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Look at Hamas. Hamas has been very silent. You haven't read anything about Hamas. We're trying to get them unarmed. You know, they grew up with a machine gun in their hand. I think they actually, when they were born, they came out with a machine gun in their hands. So that's not the easiest thing. But they've actually.
Starting point is 01:07:03 They behaved pretty well, considering this was not the lifestyle that they were taught to have. Okay, go ahead. There's a lot going on there psychologically with that quote as well. But then let's go to the Lutnik one as well because he's just so upset hearing all this. Now, Howard Lutnik, you know, grins like a fucking toothy, pasty-faced asshole on camera. Every time Trump's talking about covering up, the Epstein Fowler, Obama and I ran. He just can't stop laughing. He loves it.
Starting point is 01:07:31 smiling right there, just shit-eating grin. That grin got smacked right off his face this week. I just showed you a little. Think of what Israel is getting. They're not going to be nuked. It's very simple. I told Baby, BB, your biggest risk was that they drop a nuclear weapon into the middle of Israel. They only need one.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Shaking his head. There would be no more Israel. Think of it, baby. You got the best, the most important thing that you were asking for. What a fucking asshole. What an ungrateful prick. Like I said with Tommy G and I think I repeated it on another episode
Starting point is 01:08:09 I just recorded with Pomp. Don't ever give these people what they want. When you see them out in public, do not touch them physically or anything like that. Do not give them what they want. Do not assault them. Do not do any of those things. But do practice your First Amendment right
Starting point is 01:08:24 that when someone like that shows their fucking face and sunlight, they're miserable the whole time. Like that, person should not be court-sided in Knicks game. But if he is, any heckling that would occur should be directed at him instead of the opposing team. Because the opposing team didn't visit Epstein Island and lie to us all about it and then insist on keeping his job after paying off fucking Congress before his testimony where he was going to admit that he lied in all that.
Starting point is 01:08:51 But that's near the here nor there. We'll come back to him for sure. But let's hit a couple Vance clips this week. First one, we paid for Israel's weapons. Again, I haven't heard someone say something this blatantly that is also completely factually true when it pertains to our government in this way. So I do appreciate this. And the second message I would give to some of those cabinet members, BB, to his credit, has not gone down this path. But to some of these cabinet members in Israel who are attacking the President of the United States, the other thing that I would say is that over the last three months, two-thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars.
Starting point is 01:09:32 There it is. The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump. And anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the president of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation that country is in. Okay. And let's hit the Vance killing your way out clip. This is a quick one. But like, again, he's not mincing words here.
Starting point is 01:09:57 This is another one. This is the New York Times. he's just hitting the circuit this week. But yeah, you've seen people in their system, Ben Gavir and Smokic, who've attacked the deal. And I guess my response to them would be, what is your exact proposal? And, you know, you're a country of 9 million people.
Starting point is 01:10:14 You can't just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have. There you go. And then he went directly at him, see where it says the next one turned board way up. who went directly at ben-gavir as well which again you have to have the people that you make the face of the problems and that's a great place to start ben-gavir we're coming in a minute for him now i saw the axios report uh you know that the the netin yahoo is fuming that's not
Starting point is 01:10:49 reflective of the conversations that i've had with him but maybe he's saying something to somebody else that he's not saying to me what i will say and this does bother me is that you've seen people within BB's cabinet who have come out and attack the deal and in some ways very personally attacked the president of the United States. And I guess my message to them would be twofold. Number one, Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment. Only leader. Now there is another one, Javier Miley, but still, point taken. If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking. The only powerful ally that I have anywhere left.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Don't bite the hand that feeds you. That's what he's saying. And he's 100% right. But Kurt Metzker weighing in right here in the replies. Way to, wow. Way to fake grow a pair of balls after mass murdering thousands and thousands of people. Fuck this punk and fuck everyone who was part of it. Completely fair criticism.
Starting point is 01:11:49 It's like, where's this voice been? Where's this been? I'm glad it's finally happening. I'm going to give credit to that. But completely fair point. by Kurt Metzger, as Tim Dillon would say, friend of the show right there. And actually, friend of the show. But I'm not going to play.
Starting point is 01:12:07 They live in, flipped out on Vance. We've done enough with him today. Flipped out on him multiple times. He's trying to take that a different way. J.D. Vance also did a great job talking about how the actions of Israel are fomenting real anti-Semitism in the world and how much they seem to be like wishing that on. He did it in a masterful way. It's a longer clip, so I don't want to play it right now.
Starting point is 01:12:31 We don't have time because I want to get to Ben Gavir. But I would highly recommend people check that out because it was, it reflected a lot of the way that I feel like pretty perfectly. And I will give him credit for that. But I've talked about it all day. A guy that I have followed his rise for a long time now is Itamar, Ben-Gavir, the Minister of National Security in Israel. And at this point, many of you have heard of them. This is, to put it, I would say this is a demonic man, but that would be disrespectful to demons.
Starting point is 01:13:06 This is someone who you heard about Trump just doing, you know, the stand-up joke about, you know, these Hamas guys being born with machine guns in their hands and everything. This is a guy who I tend to think was just born with hate in his heart. I know most of us out there can't even fathom what that would feel like or what that is and what that would be, thank God. But just observing his entire life and the hatred that he spews and the things that he says and the things that he's advocated for and the things that he's done. And it is impossible to say otherwise. I want to pull up the tweet that he put up, the first one right there. Did he already have this earlier today? No, it did not.
Starting point is 01:13:53 So X is now saying this post-violated X's rules, which I actually appreciate it should stay up so that we can see how bad his speech is. But I appreciate that X put that tag on it that was not there. But in response to the aforementioned four Israeli soldiers who were killed in Lebanon as a part of this back and forth that continues to go on with Hezbollah, which by the way, Trump even said like last week, like, well, the ceasefire to me is just the shootings less. it's that you know it's it's just less which is funny and also not true but that is like actually the reality sadly which means we don't have things called ceasefires anymore but the way ben-gavir responded to this is that for every tier of an israeli mother a thousand Lebanese mothers must weep all of Lebanon must burn exclamation point with all due respect to the americans Israel must make it clear to the entire world that the blood of our sons and the security of our citizens are not forfeit
Starting point is 01:14:51 All of Lebanon must burn our Supreme duty is to protect the citizens of Israel and the soldiers of the IDF and the commitment takes precedent over every other Consideration fuck all you fuck any money that America may give us Fuck them fighting our wars for us that we drag them into fuck every other country Fuck every other person is me talking I'm off I'm off script right now obviously Fuck every other person in the world. Only I and what I care about. I referring to this demon right here, this animal, matters. Everyone else can die.
Starting point is 01:15:23 I told the prime minister, even in our private meetings, for every tear of an Israeli mother, a thousand Lebanese mothers must weep. Enough with the ping pong. In the Middle East, you don't win with measured responses and restraint. You need to go berserk to obliterate, to crush the terror. There used to be a sign in the Central Park Zoo. when you'd walk past all the animals where it would say
Starting point is 01:15:48 the most dangerous animal of all and it was a mirror and a human would look into it and it was you know maybe that's a little bit of hyperbole just for the average person walking by but it was a reminder that human nature is
Starting point is 01:16:06 certainly capable of amazing things and that's what I celebrate on this show all the time but what we also must do is call out when it is capable of awful things things that fall below the level of what is supposed to be a human being. What you are hearing here from this demon is a rabid dog. It's a rabid dog. You don't heal people like this.
Starting point is 01:16:31 They're not healable. That's why we had Nuremberg in 1946. It worked. Those guys were given a fair trial. They were put in front of a court for the world to be broadcast. to hear about what they did. They were found guilty and those who perpetrated
Starting point is 01:16:50 were summarily hung instantly. There was no like stay of executed. They were taken out back and hung within days. Guys like this are wanted by courts like the ICC. They are, Ben-Gavir is banned from France. He is banned from Ireland. I think there's other
Starting point is 01:17:09 countries he's banned from. He was supposed to attend a wedding in the United States a couple weeks ago and then didn't do it because in order to get a visa with the United States. United States who's like so friendly to Israel and all that in order to get a visa he was going to have to talk about his previous criminal convictions and he didn't want to do that and thought he was going to get banned from a visa so he didn't come. This is someone who is persona non grata around the world. This is someone who can we play the video of the flotilla? Just pull that up while I'm talking deep if you don't mind. You know, when they arrested some activists from Europe who were, you know, being activist for Gaza, you know, he went in and taunted them and, you know, wanted.
Starting point is 01:17:47 I wanted to show him who daddy is, I guess. He's just regular activists. But it's a video. I have the link. But yeah, that's it. You see them, they're laughing as they, you know, commit human rights abuses, getting physical with the prisoners and all that. I mean, they're dragging them, looking them laughing.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Psycho. Waving the Israeli flag. Got them all in the prone position like the El Salvador prisons. You know, like, this is, this is who he is. This is also someone who was the leader of advocating for the law, that it's a race law. Where does that sound familiar from? A race law that allows for the Israeli government to execute Palestinian prisoners that they deemed terrorists. This went through a few months ago, and he was where in the buildup to getting the law passed,
Starting point is 01:18:45 which they celebrated with champagne and a birthday cake, because it was around. his birthday as well that had a noose as the icing decoration on the cake nice guy he was also wearing a noose lapel do we have that picture right there dif i think i think i put it there's a lot of links i'm sorry diff will pull it up i put like 40 links right there so he's got to find where that is but you know he wore a noose lapel into the kinesid and before you say like this guy is a total exception to the rule he's not you know israel has a lot of different parties and parts of Benjamin Netanyahu coming back to power in 2023 was getting coalitions of various right-wing groups behind him, which include Ben-Kavir's party that holds six of the 120 seats, I want to say it is,
Starting point is 01:19:33 in the Knesset, and then Smotrich's party as well. The finance minister is extremely right-wing. Basically, they are kingmakers to Benjamin Netanyahu. And if they pull their support, he could effectively lose his government. Some of that gets above my pay grade exactly what the process there in Israel's government. but that is how it is, which means they have sway over say here. And I've said forever as demonic as Netanyahu is, he's a choir boy compared to people like this. And I do want to give a shout out to Vice, which I think has really lost its way over the years for a lot of reasons. But they did do a great documentary a few years ago on Ben Gavir, who lives in an illegal Israeli settlement in the West Bank. They did a documentary on some of those settlements.
Starting point is 01:20:18 where Ben Gavir was out in the West Bank pushing for them and, you know, being the fire brand racist that he is. But this man is not just like some hardliner who, you know, taunts prisoners and wants to execute Palestinians and things like that. He is a racial supremacist. He is a kahanist. Now, Kahan, I forget his first name was a famous rabbi, I believe in the United States, who was extremely racist. and believed that all Arabs needed to be removed from Israeli society and, you know, full-blown ethnic cleansing, like basically doing what Hitler did in reverse, if you will. And he was so damaging that the United States actually declared Khaganism a terrorist organization,
Starting point is 01:21:06 and I believe 2002 or 2004. 2004. Funny enough, in 2022, very quietly, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken removed them as a terrorist organization, because, and I believe the quote, was they're not, there's no proof that they're currently active. Ben Guevier looks pretty active to me. I don't know, Dief, do you look active to you? Looks active. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:31 So, Cohenism is religious, Zionist ideology based on the views of Rabbi Meir, Meyer Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defense League and the Israeli political party, cock. Is that how you say? I didn't, I think it's Koch. I didn't mean to you know. Whatever. Kahan believed. that most Arabs living in Israel are the enemies of Jews in Israel itself, and that a Jewish halactic state in which non-Jews would have no voting rights should be created.
Starting point is 01:21:58 That is the definition of apartheid, by the way. The Koch Party has been banned by the Israeli government. It lives on through guys like Ben Gavir, under other names. In 2004, the United States State Department designated a foreign terrorist organization. In 2022, it was removed from the U.S. terror blacklist due to insufficient evidence of the group's ongoing activity, but it remains a specially designated global terrorist entity. Sounds like nice people. Now, a famous subscriber, if you will, of Kahanism was a guy named Baruch Goldstein.
Starting point is 01:22:30 In 1994, Baruch Goldstein went into a mosque dressed in a fake IDF uniform, I believe. IDF uniform, a disguise. And executed 29 people, injured a bunch of others before he was eventually overtaken by the people in the mosque who just went there to worship their religion. And, you know, he was a khanist and a racist and a supremacist and all these things. And for two decades, Ben Gavir had a portrait of Baruch Goldstein in his dining room. It was his dining room or his living room. Either way. He had a portrait of this man. And it's been reported that the first date with his wife, more on that in a second, it's been reported. They actually visited the grave of Baruch Goldstein.
Starting point is 01:23:19 which would have been shortly after he died. Someone like this would be shunned in American society. He's not shunned over there. That's very, very interesting to me. But also, I found this fascinating thief. So Itmar Ben-Gavir met his wife in 2002. So it was several. It was after the 90s.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Bill Goldstein died in the 90s. He was 26 and she was 15. They married in a year. I did check, according to Israeli Penal Code established in 1977, the age of consent for actually even same-sex sexual relations involving any kind of penetration is 16, the same as the age of consent for opposite-sex sexual relations involving any kind of penetration. Now, I don't know if there was penetration there, Dief. Maybe there wasn't, but kind of interesting. This guy, as a 26-year-old, was dating a 15-year-old. something might say on brand. One of the things that Zionist faction will often talk about
Starting point is 01:24:38 is the radicalization of various Arabs across the region into hating Israel and eventually becoming terrorists and stuff and you know, there's certainly hatred of Israel that is put in the cradle of put in the cradle for kids.
Starting point is 01:24:59 What I've always taken issue with is the inability to look in the mirror as to why some of that may occur. It's not defending the terrorist actions. I will always condemn that. Someone blows up a grocery store. Fuck them. But I do want to understand how they got there. I do want to understand what happened in their life to get there. For example, when a bunch of these 17 to 22 year olds went over the border on October 7th, we won't talk about the stand down order, but these guys did go over the border and executed a bunch of innocent people in Israel, you know, is a disgusting act. Full stop.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Once it happened, you have to look at it and say, now what could put so much hate in someone's heart to do that? And then you realize, okay, 2003, 17 years before, Gaza is basically locked off from the world in a 20-mile zone, Hamas is put in charge. Netanyahu's talked about funding Hamas before. rules with an iron fist and everything. They can't go east. They can't go north. They can't go south in most cases. They're not allowed to use the coral reef because it's nine miles out off the shore. And Israel calls their region three miles off the shore. So it's a poor economic zone. And they are
Starting point is 01:26:13 told that the people on the other side of the border are what caused this from the time they're an infant. So fast forward, 17 to 22 year olds roughly coming over the border to do that attack in 2003. were zero to five years old when that happened, you can see how one gets to the other. Again, in no way, and am I condoning that. I am saying sociologically, you have to try to solve for the future as to how you can avoid something like this. So now, fast forward to post-20203 while everyone's getting blown up at Gaza and stuff, don't you think some of these kids who watch their mom and dad get blown up, their little sister get blown to bits who woke up in the rubble? Don't you think when they get up, they're going to have.
Starting point is 01:26:55 a lot of hate in their heart. I don't know about you, D, if I would. Yeah, it sounds about right. You know, so I will condemn the actions of those kids when some of them inevitably grow up and commit terrorist acts. I will condemn that. Don't mince my, do not twist my words here. I will condemn it in all its forms. But I will unfortunately understand where the flame was lit, the spark was lit to get them there. And there is. is not an understanding across each society, both societies, as to where this hatred foments. But when I look at a guy like Ben-Gavir, this is someone whose mother was in the Urgun. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:39 There's a link there, Dief below that. I'm just going to go through some of the things that the Urgoon was responsible for. This was a right-wing terror group. In Israel later, Manachem Began, who was one of the leaders of the Argoon, if not the leader became the prime minister of Israel in the 1970s. That's neither here nor there. But they are responsible for the King David Hotel bombing on July 22nd, 1946 that killed 91 people, Arab Jewish civil servants and civilians and obviously a lot of British who they wanted to get out of the country who did leave after that, by the way. Prior to Israel being formed,
Starting point is 01:28:15 the Dariusian massacre on April 9th, 1948 in conjunction with the military Lehi Sterngang group, Argoon commanded, raided the Arab village of Dariusine, the attack. resulted in the deaths of at least 100 villagers, including women and children. The market bombings in 37, 38, again, long before Israel was actually formed. British embassy bombing in Rome. And on December, on October 31st, 1946, again, they really wanted to scare the British, so they said as part of their international campaign against the British mandate, the Argoon bombed the British embassy in Rome, causing significant structural damage.
Starting point is 01:28:48 At least no one died there. Kidnapping and murder of British soldiers in July 1947, they kidnapped two British intelligence officers in the Natanya region and later executed them, hanging their bodies in the eucalyptus grove in retaliation for the execution of Ergun members. There was another group at this time called the Haganah, which was, didn't, I don't think it had an official leader, but a part of the leadership was David Bangurion, who became the longtime first prime minister of Britain, and they did things including classified documents and historical research have revealed that Israeli forces principally the Haganah, which later became the IDF,
Starting point is 01:29:27 poisoned water supplies and wells in Palestinian towns and villages during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. That is a war crime on every level. Like, again, that was like the more liberal faction, by the way. The Argoon was right-wing. The Haganah was more left-wing as far as I know. Again, you look at the leadership. That's what it turned out to be.
Starting point is 01:29:46 So someone like Ben-Gavir's mom put this in his heart. This is someone who celebrated Yitzhakrabin being executed by a far right-wing Israeli assassin in 1995, I want to say, in the build-up to his election against one Benjamin Netanyahu, by the way. Nen-Yahu did have nothing to do with that. I think that has been properly proven, so I don't want to make that accusation. But there was obviously like a terrorist and an Israeli terrorist in this case who did that. He's still in prison to the stay.
Starting point is 01:30:17 But Ben-Gavir supported things like that because Yitzhakabin committed the awful act of trying to do things like the Oslo, Accords, which would maybe make some semblance of peace with the Palestinians. And guys like Ben Gavir cannot have that. So someone like this cannot be negotiated with. They cannot be dealt with. And they need to be treated in a diplomatic capacity in this case during a delicate situation where I care about America as it relates to the Iran War. And I would like to be able to pull out of that and have not.
Starting point is 01:30:53 no further casualties on top of the 13 that we've already taken and the many who were injured as well. You know, so I can't just sit here and play video games with like what I most want to see happen. And unfortunately, that means guys like this may not be brought to justice in an international court. That said, they cannot be reasoned with. They cannot be negotiated with. They cannot be a part of any table. And their calls for violence in place like Lebanon need to be decried at the highest level. One of the things I tweeted out, I quote tweeted Ben Gavir's latest missive about Lebanon and taking the land.
Starting point is 01:31:30 I'm going to show a couple of other things he said about Lebanon just over the last two months in a minute. But I quote tweeted it with, I believe it was a 54 second clip from The Dark Night. Great movie Christopher Nolan, obviously second in the Backman trilogy, where Michael Kane, Alfred the Butler, is talking to Bruce Wayne and the Batler about the joke. And he tells a story about this man that he had hunted years before in Burma, who, you know, was just a raider. And he would, he would steal all these, all these rubies and everything. And when they eventually got to Burma searching for him, they found little children playing with these rubies. And he's like, you know, Bruce Wayne's like, well, what was the point of stealing him? And what Alfred said to him, and I don't have the exact quote in front of me.
Starting point is 01:32:22 so I'm paraphrasing here, but he said, some men can't be bought or reasoned or given any logic. They don't respond to money. They don't respond to common sense. They don't respond to any of that. Some men just want to watch the world burn. This is a man, and that's not really respectful to fellow mankind to call an animal like this a man, but this is someone who wants the world to burn.
Starting point is 01:32:51 And he says it in his own words. I'm not twisting his words. I'm not taking anything out of context. He says it. And he's not the only one. And so we've had conversations over many years correctly so about radical terrorism that's happened as a result of other communities that are not in Israel,
Starting point is 01:33:11 committing actions that are horrible around the world, whether it be ISIS, Al-Qaeda, you name it. And we should have those conversations and it's wrong. On every level. If you're going to have them, you have to play fair and you have to have the conversation for everyone. And that includes, by the way,
Starting point is 01:33:25 this shit my own government does too. Let's not lose that in the conversation here. So a guy like Ben Gavir should not, he should not be in the room. Right when the MOU was coming out, he called it a bad deal for Israel. I know Treata tweet about that. Treata Parsi, who was on my show for episode 382,
Starting point is 01:33:50 really good guy. He was on Tucker this week because Barry Weiss tried to put the story out in the free press. that the State Department was looking at revoking his visa because he dares to talk out against this war. I will say, and I've said this before, if you listen to episode 382, which was recorded maybe like four weeks before the Iran War broke out, bar for bar, word for word, treat it called how this would go. Perfectly. Joe Kent-esque, if you will.
Starting point is 01:34:17 And they don't like that. Barry Weiss doesn't like that. So I hope to see nothing happened there as it relates to him. but yeah so ben govier said trump's deal with iran is bad for israel and the israel will quote not allow it nation and nine million people that relies on all of our funding to do whatever the fuck they do will not allow it we'll go fuck yourself pal you'll do you'll do what we tell you to do and hopefully the two days of finally getting some not cold takes from this administration
Starting point is 01:34:48 leads to a little bit of a turn and policy here i won't hold my breath as we've said but you know, hopefully we see good trends there. He also on May 30th talked about flattening De He Lebanon, which I'm definitely pronouncing wrong. Apologies to my Lebanese friends right there. This is from Mario Nafal. Well, it's not, it's in Hebrew, so I don't want to play the video, but he says this is from Ben Gaviri publicly and repeatedly calls to flatten Beirut's Dehi. He says, quote, we need to go after De He, flatten it, flatten it, and flatten it again. Dear Prime Minister Netanyahu, I love you, but it is time to flatten the Dehi. The Dehe is a densely populated southern suburb of Beirut, home to hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Starting point is 01:35:33 This is the second Israeli minister this week to publicly call for leveling civilian areas. Smotris, the finance minister, proposed destroying 10 buildings for every drone. Now Ben-Gavir wants an entire neighborhood erased. These aren't fringe voices. They hold the national security and finance portfolios in Netanyahu's government. The timing couldn't be worse because this was when Trump was decided. on a deal potential deal with Lebanon again we've seen Israel cast the defense minister as I said and Smotritz the finance minister repeat exact things about taking the land in Lebanon and not giving
Starting point is 01:36:07 it up there's a video of Smotrich I do want to play where he says destroy Lebanon right here and I remind you smotrich was just in America several weeks ago marching in the Israel Day parade in New York City. Someone who, he said this before he came to America, by the way, let's play this. This does have captions on it, I believe, Dief. Not that one. Not that one. It's the one that says finance minister Smotrich destroy Lebanon.
Starting point is 01:36:35 You see that? So this was, I believe, like, beginning of May, he said this. But, all right, so here we go. Play that. How are you? Very good. Thank you very much for coming. Let's start. So maybe what's most important, your son was injured in Lebanon. Yes, Baruch, the song's now in rehabilitation. He's improving at a very fast pace. Hope within two weeks he'll be released, transferred. It'll be a few months, but he is supported according to put everything in the hands of God and his help. He keeps asking me to finish the work and leave him more to do in our hearts with this. I tell him, don't worry. We'll come back with the help of God to fight. Thank you very much for coming. wait go back to that other part right there basically the headline here was my son wants me to leave some lebanon for him to destroy later i told him don't worry there will be not enough there will be
Starting point is 01:37:30 enough for everyone that was the quote because the captions are small coming in fast but like that's that's the that's the thought process does that sound like people who are going to abide by a peace deal i think not so i did talk to joe kent the other day we will be doing a podcast next month obviously he's been I think very brave and very to the point and diplomatic in speaking his mind since leaving the government in March it'll be interesting to see where we stand when he comes in here and what we can break down but you know this is what he was talking about that the unreasonable people within that faction that they don't respond to anything so you you can't if something like that is going to be elected and exist right now over there. I'm not a huge fan of our government overthrowing governments and stuff. So that's not what I'm calling for by any means, but you must deal with that accordingly, which means people like that do not have a voice in the room. And there are serious repercussions if they insist on having one. So, you know, when you talk about things like this, you get called
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