Julian Dorey Podcast - #446 - “POISON!” - Palantir, Afghanistan’s SICK Secret & Deadliest Preacher | Fat Electrician & VWAS

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

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You're big gangs of New York guy, huh? Well, we went on the tour, I, uh, the unsub tour this past fall, like, I became obsessed with it and I just watched it every time we got on a flight. And so the joke was, fine, you've talked to me into it. I'll watch gangs in New York. For context, we got on four flights a week for like six weeks straight. You watch it every time.

Yes. It's just so, well, what happened was I'm so tired and exhausted because like the, the day, the day is long. Like when you do the tour, you show up at like four, drop your bags and then we go to the venue audio check we food they do the VIP and then it starts around eight and then we we don't leave till like midnight so I would only get like 10 to 15 minutes each time to the movie so I'm just like laid out on the plane you Pavloved yourself into falling asleep to this man I did yeah watch Liam Neeson die a lot of times I did it's rough I don't

know what happens next yeah he guys in a lot of movies though so that's that's his that's his thing that is his thing but it was just like an ongoing joke it was like you've talked me into it Liam Mason, like him. Also, the main character and the worst movie ever made. Which one? The Gray. Oh, yeah, yeah. I hate that movie.

Why do you hate that movie? That movie is an hour and a half of edging and not getting to come. It's literally, it's 90 minutes of I get to see Liam Neeson fight a wolf. No, you don't. Credits. Roll the credits. That's kind of the idea, though. It's an artistic rendition of what it might be like to think about it.

like getting on porn hub and watching a plumber fix a sink the entire time and then he leaves. Okay. Ain't nobody came to see how to fix the drain. That's absurd. What about the electrician fixing the fucking outlet? Whatever. I don't care what it is. Nobody came. Nobody came to see my fat, hairy ass fix an outlet. Okay. That's right. That's right. Well, I like some of the cinematography in that movie, so I'm a little biased, but I see what you're saying. But how was it actually like going on tour and doing things in front of a live audience? Like, because you've got to had unsubscribe for a long time. You guys got multiple podcasts. You do one together too. But I always wonder what that dynamic's like because it's way different than sitting in a room

like this, obviously. It might be the best drug I've ever done. Really? Like it's, I mean, just from my perspective, I have the easiest job. I have a bit. I come out and tell it. I have like one thing I have to do. Nick starts off the show. He tells a story and I have to wait for my cue and then I go up there and then my friends work for an hour and a half and then we hang out again. That's a good job. It's great. But it just kind of happened naturally. And it's, you know, everyone at unsubs, we're all like a very, we're very tight.

Like our group's really tight. And for me, it's just like the craziest experience. There's no like direct linear path from like getting out of the Marine Corps, going to college, working in health care, holding up cardboard, going on tour with your best friends. Like it's not, doesn't make sense. And it sounds like a fever dream. Like I have like malaria and I'm like reciting something. But it's just like it's crazy. The energy in the room is insane.

The fans are awesome. And they're just they're they're they're screaming at the second you like walk out there the entire time. Like it's that's cool. It's insane. That's the thing. Like it's less scary than you think because like it's not like being a standup comedian. You know like I'm not going out there trying to win over the crowd.

Like the crowd already knows who I am. They already like me. So I just have to show up and meet expectations, which is. pretty easy when the expectation is to be yourself hanging out with your buddies and get drunk. Yeah. So, I mean, it's a very low bar to make everybody happy. So they're thrilled. It's a lot of fun.

That's cool. Yeah, I see a lot of guys doing that these days. I don't know. Like, I think it's also a different dynamic too from the outside when you have like a really big, fun group podcast where it's like the boys and everything versus like one where it's usually me talking with someone else or something like that. I always wondered if it would be like, uh, you do three hours and you could actually have same kind of conversation. I don't know. But like if you're drinking with your boys, like you're

on a stage, everyone's rowdy in the crowd. That's probably going to be pretty good. Yeah. That means definitely. It fits well for unsub. I don't know how it would fit for like, you know, the Joe Rogan experience or like other podcasts. I think it's very podcast specific. But unsubb is the whole thing's always been four friends get drunk, fly somebody out they want to hang out with and bullshit. So it works. It works good. What do you guys film out of? Unsubscribe films out of San Antonio and then underwhelming films out of Nashville and Iowa. So you're just bouncing on it. Because you live in, you live in Iowa.

So you're bouncing around all the time. I've been in seven states this month. Yeah. And I've seen him almost all the trips. I'll be in Las Vegas tomorrow. Oh yeah. Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge huge help.

Thank you. Yeah. You ever get tired? Yeah. I'll worry about it later. Yeah. Yeah. You got a YouTube channel as well you're keeping up with.

I mean, that's like, that's the one. benefit of this like I record here. So we have a lot going on all the time, but I know where I'm at all times. But then I'll have guys like you in and you know, you guys are flying all over and somehow keeping that balance. I'm not jealous of that part. That's hard. That's a good time. It's a good job. You get better at traveling. That's probably. Yeah. Like you can, there's ways to like relief pressure and like it's little things. You get precheck. You get clear. You fly enough times. You get upgraded. The upgrades turn into more upgrades. And So, like, it's, those are the things that honestly, like, mean the most because, like, it's little things to be more comfortable that'll, like, make the whole trip better, at least in my opinion.

Because, like, you know, if you're scrunched up next to someone, the AC's not working, and, you know, it's, it should be illegal to have the windows open on a plane before noon. I don't know who's looking outside of the window, like, this morning. Three hour flight. It's still white outside. I don't, I don't. The guy, dude, the dude at the dude at the room. road across me, he was like, wow. He was, like, looking out and I'm like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, he was, he was, he was,

mesmerized by the clouds and it is not, we took off at like seven. Oh, no. And the whole time, like, dude, come on, even, they're even like, we're dimming the cabin lights. He didn't get the clue, he's like, I'll, I'll raise the curtain up more, but. Yeah, that's when, that's the one time in this post-epstein era where private jets are not exactly in vogue, where I'm like a little jealous to those people. So I don't have to deal with any of that. It's just, it's just weird. You see, you also see like, I'm, this is aside, I'm always amazed at how blasted people get in the morning for a flight. Oh, I know. Like, just to go to like, for instance, does people know where you are? Yeah. Yeah. To go to Newark. Like, there was a ton of people like,

crawling on the plane. And I'm like, dude, it's, what are you, where are you going? That's one thing I've never understood. Like, I love going out and having a good time. Yeah. I have never had an alcoholic beverage at an airport or on a plane. And like so many fucking people doing it. I'm like, I would, I would flip out. Like, that's not for me.

Whatever that is, that gene where you could just get fucking loaded on a plane. I don't think that's mine. I forget where we, it was either two or from Atlanta. We drank the plane out of Tito's. I know that. That was from Atlanta. Yeah. From Atlanta.

Yeah. get like that weird like head high when you're drunk on a plane because you're like airs popped and everything i there wasn't enough titos to get us all drunk i do remember fun fact the little shots of titos come in like a you know like the vacuum sealed amazon bags yeah that's what they come in because the stewardess literally just brought out the bag and ripped it up and it was like here it was a hand and like it was fucking halvelyne like just take what you want like i don't was that going that was going to that was going to that was going to orlando wasn't it probably i think it was going to yeah because we played at the hard rock yeah that was yeah that was yeah

The hangover is not worse coming off a plane like that. You got to stop being drunk to get hungover. Yeah. You got to stay on pace. Yeah. But no. I'm poor. I'm not stopping.

It's just weird because like I get someone like having a drink going on a vacation, all that stuff I get. But like just regular normal business suit people blasted at six o'clock in the morning. Fascinates me endlessly. Absolutely nuts. And they're like, I'm looking for 4A and they're just like, they're like all messed up. They can't even lift the bag, which is like the most emasculating moment as a man.

Like if you can't put it up above your head, like your bag. Not great, bro. Not great. That's a rough look. Yeah, we were lugging around what? Like 50 pounds on all those trains in Italy last week? Oh, yeah. And then every AC unit would just be out.

And they're like, yeah, we're going to move your seat again. Boom. But we got it every time. No emasculated moments. See? It was good. It was good. But you were saying, Jack, that, you know, all these things like kind of happened.

Like you come out of the military, we'll come back to that in a minute. And I think you said you're working in healthcare. Yes. And you start holding up the sign. And then somehow everything lines up. And now you're doing tours with your buddies around the world with your bit and all that. Do you ever like pinch yourself like, damn, what if I didn't do that one thing, that one day like seven years ago? And then none of this happens.

I think about that a lot, actually. Because of all of our friends, I would say me and Nick had real jobs the longest. Yeah. And so there's never a moment where I'm like, this will last forever or that I take it for granted because I'm convinced I was at this one health. So Nashville is the health care capital of the world, which is why you either go in the music industry or go into health care. And so I remember sitting in my cubicle and they had a sound machine over each of us that would just play like white noise. Oh my God. And I was like, that kind of feels like a like that detention center.

We paint the walls robbing egg blue to keep them calm. Yeah. Type shit. The walls were all the same. It was stuff like that. And like, I just remember, I was like, I'm wearing a suit though, but I just remember like that. And then I look at my life now. And it's normal even to my family of like, what are you doing today?

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And I often think, like, there's a joke we always make about the shaky lamp. Have you heard about that? I don't think of the shaky. The Reddit post. It's like a creepy pasta Reddit post about, like, this guy, he talks about how in college he got in a bar fight and, like, gets knocked out and smacks his head on the curve and he wakes up, like some hot chick, like takes him home, takes care of him, winds up getting married. lives 15 years, has a wife, has kids.

And then one day he's like sitting in the living room and the lamp looks weird. And he like slowly becomes obsessed with this lamp because it just looks weird. And then eventually he's just staring at this lamp all day. And then eventually he wakes up from a coma and he had lived 15 years. It was all completely fake. And he was just in a coma from getting his head smacked on the curb. So that's like the recurring joke in the friend group is like anytime we're doing something cool, one of us will be like, guys, the lamp's starting to look weird. Like we're all going to wake up.

This is fake. Yeah, that's a, that's a dark way to think about it. But that's where I think about like with the simulation sometimes. I'm like, what if what if we are all looking at a lamb technically? This is great. I'm good with this lamp. You want to hear the part that scares me about that the most? What's that?

When I was in sixth grade, I had to write a paper on what I wanted to do when I grew up. When I was in sixth grade, I wanted to be a stand-up comedian. And I loved blue-collar comedy tour. You ever heard of that? Yeah. Larry the cable guy. Jeff Foxworthy, Billing, Vaugh, Ron White,

four friends that would travel the country. They would all do their bits. And then they would come out and sit together on stage in front of a crowd of people and bullshit with the crowd and tell jokes. Fast forward. By the way, my favorite comedian, because I was in sixth grade at the time, was Larry the cable guy.

Larry the cable guy was pretty fucking fun. Yeah. Fast forward 15 years later. I'm the fat electrician and I travel the country with my three friends. and we do comedy shows where we all sit up there together and bullshit with the crowd came together it came to the vision the vision's visioning for sure lamps looking weird lamp's looking weird yeah no it's the fan electrician thing though that's a it's a pretty hard name complete accident how was it an accident it was it in the accident it was dude i all right so i uh

electrician you're rip so you just say you're fat instead of rip i was an electrician and i got I ruptured my pack. I tore my pack. So I was off work for like six months in a sling. And my wife, I was sitting at home all day doing nothing. And my wife was kept sending me fucking TikToks, which to me at the time was an app for little kids to do dances on.

And I was, I'm a grown ass man. That's a journeyman electrician. I'm not getting TikTok. She kept sending them to me. So I would have to watch them through the internet browser. You know? Oh,

when they let you do that. Yeah. Back when they let you. This is, you know, six years ago. So I would just watch them through internet browser. And eventually I was like,

I'll get the, fucking app. I downloaded it. Well, then he got to make an account. Didn't know what to use for a name. So as a joke to my wife, because I was hurt and couldn't work out, I made the username as a joke, the fat electrician. So hard. And it was just a joke to my wife like, oh, can't work out. I'm going to get fat now. Ha, ha, ha. And then a couple months later, I got a wild hair at my ass, made a TikTok and I got 12 million views. What was that TikTok about? It was about a grocery store called Aldi. What's going on at Aldi? I just explained. I just explained why the business model was insane.

Like it was made by the Germans right after World War II. And it's like just German engineering applied to a grocery store. Right. And why it was funny and efficient and why I liked it more because it just prevented people from being annoying in the grocery store by design and just made it funny. Got a ton of views. And then I just kept making videos. And now you're like, honey, I'm a TikToker. I'm the fat electrician forever.

Yeah. Yeah. But a TikToker. No. I switched to YouTube pretty quick. You switch to YouTube. Yeah. good. Yeah. What's funny about it is Aldi's such a legit business that everyone

admires it that I wrote about it in business school. Like I did a case study on it. No shit. Like it's that good. Like they do basically they've decided the best way to move a customer through the store. Um, they don't put stuff in special packaging. They just put it out there in pallets like basically it's cheaper than everywhere else. When you walk into an Aldi, there's no like entryway and you can like walk left and go down all the aisles. It's fucking you walk in. You're in an aisle. The only way to go is left.

You're going down aisle one. When you get to the end of aisle one, you have to turn and go down aisle two. And there's only like four, three or four aisles. So you have to go. There's one path of traffic. There's no fucking one person's going against the current.

You have to go this way. And everything in the store is just like, we're not taking the bags of chips out of the, boxes and putting them on the rack. No, we're just opening the box and setting it there. And when the boxes are fucking empty, we throw away the box. Yeah. And then we don't give out bags. You're bagging your own groceries. You can take the boxes if you forgot bags. So then they get people to take their fucking boxes for them. Like it's just you put your cart back. You get a quarterback, all these like little things that they did to make it efficient. It's like the real auto bond of

grocery stores. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know the last time I was in an Aldi. They also have really good food. Like the quality of their food is really good. Like Costco level? Yeah, probably better, honestly, because they have to meet European standards on the quality of their food. So like minimal GMOs, if any at all. Like if you're getting like a cookie, for instance, like it's actually just like flour, sugar, chocolate chips, the end. Not like a bunch of like weird stuff.

See, that's the thing. And we say it every time we like go over to Europe. We'll eat like shit hypothetically and things like that. drink a lot and somehow we feel decent the next day because there is so much shit in all our foods here. I was even looking at a protein bar the other day. I think it was like, I don't want to get the company around. I think it was a David bar. And I went and said, let me check out the ingredients here because it's like pretty good for you. Like the macros all look good. I remember what was in there. But it was some sort of like corn syrup and like all these other preservatives

and shit. Like no wonder I have to take a shit within an hour like not the good kind every time I have one of these. You know, it's like some sort of. Something went very wrong in our society where they just let that happen and it's just a very bad slippery slope these days. Yeah. It's pretty rough. It's keeping Ian Carroll in business though. That's how I found out about him was all the food shelves and how it's all like owned by one company. I think it's Unilever mainly.

I don't know. Yeah. It doesn't Ian has like an app for that now or something, right? I'm pretty sure it's called like buyer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's it.

Where they tell you like what's what. But someone told me a few years ago and then I've seen it all over. the internet since then so it's probably been around a while but they're like just don't buy the shiny wrapper stuff in the in the food store don't go to the middle aisles go to the outside where it's like produce and stuff like that and you'll be okay i think there's something to be said for that i think it still applies yeah yeah what why do you think that is that we let that happen in america we're supposed to be like the leader of the free world and everything but we're kind of like very behind on stuff like that profits profit i'm thinking of the scene in uh the founder where he made

makes the milkshake out of powder at the restaurant. At some point or another, we let money into politics because we lost track of what a politician's supposed to be. The country was designed so that the politicians in America were supposed to be independently wealthy, successful individuals that then after becoming wealthy and successful went on to serve the public, be a public servant to help run the country because they know how to run a business. They know how to get shit done.

They're leaders in the military. They're leaders in business. They're they're accomplished individuals. And for some reason now most of our politicians all have law degrees and their entire life from the time they were 12 years old was I'm on a chart to do this. So I need to go to this high school and then I need to go to this college and then I need to join the military where I will intentionally get a job to ensure that I never see combat for the minimum amount of time. Once I get out of that so I can, you know, check the veteran box. And then I'm going to go be a city council. member here, be this here, and then they've spent their entire life on this trajectory to run the country.

And they've never even lived in the real world. And these people need money to win elections. So when some asshole comes to the factory and is like, I'll give you a million dollars to win your election, but let me pump corn syrup into fucking strawberries. Right. They say yes. And they're owned. And then they just insider trader on the information so they can get fucking rich, right? No, Nancy Pelosi's husband is better than Warren Buffett by 700%. He's got to be better. Yeah. And when he has company over, sometimes he doesn't have pants. What's a big deal, guys?

That's it. I know when I get undressed from a long day in a suit, I go pants off first. Never the tie, never the shirt. I go, let's drop trousers. Trousers first. Trousers first. Yeah. You got to Winnie the poo this shit. So you just got to go Tom Cruise and risky business. You know, you start and then that's just kind of how it goes. That is true. We don't hear about that story though anymore. That just kind of, that went away, right? I like the footage. The cops are like, yo. And he's like, he's like, we're fine. And he's like holding the one guy off. He's like, he's like, we're fine.

He's like, are you sure you're fine? And he's like, it doesn't look like, you're fine. No, no, we're just two friends hanging out. Is that a hammer? Come on, dude. What are you doing? Crazy. I agree with everything you said, though.

But I think you're even given too much credit because you're just mentioning the ones who maybe go the military route for the checkbox on the resume. A lot of these people don't even do that. Yeah, you don't have to. They're like, they don't even do the military. The standard is constantly getting lower. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

I mean, most of them just take, like, admin jobs if they do the military or, like, you know, something that's in, like, logistics is a popular thing. Like, you can get in, move stuff around, blah, blah, blah, you're not going to really see combat at all. Or if you do, it's very minimal. You'll be at, like, a big base. Yeah. And, yeah, it's a lot of people in intelligence, so that's also.

A lot of that, too. A lot of that. That's always interesting, but. Well, they know the game. Yeah. Yeah. They used to be the guy on the other side. Now they come in.

They're like, now I'm your inside. Now I have a white naval suit. That's right. That's right. Isn't one of your boys is he's like literally about to win, right? Yeah. Brandon. Yeah.

Shout out Brandon. What district is that in Texas? District 23 in Texas. Okay. And that's where the guy who like fucked his assistant or something had to drop out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Why did he, before all that, why did he want to run against him in the first? Uh, so after the, uh, so after the, um, Um, one, he just didn't have a good voting record in general for being, um, a Republican. Um, and then, uh, Brandon's big thing was he kind of rolled over on guns and was becoming anti gun as a Republican representing Texas. So really. Yeah, Brandon, Brandon ran against him last time. Actually took him to a runoff election.

So in Texas, you have to win by more than 50%. So he prevented him from getting 50% of the vote. So they had to go to a special runoff election just between the two of them. And he managed to beat Brandon in that special runoff election by outspending him, I think 11 to one. I think he spent like $11 million campaigning against Brandon. And it was all like complete lies of like Brandon's anti-veteran brand. Brandon hates it's like. Brandon's on one of the biggest veteran podcasts on the internet and has raised hundreds of thousands.

I think we were broke a million at this point. So for veterans charities. It's like no, no, he isn't. But you have enough money and you can lie loud enough. You know, people aren't going to. I don't know how that's legal. How's it legal? It's like to do something to spend money, fill the public airways with things that are verifiably false.

Great question. That's a very good point. Because when he's the second go around when all this stuff happened, the text messages were published. It was on NBC nightly news. I was at my house. I just like took a photo of it. I was like, oh my God. Like they're talking about Tony.

And all those things happened. Still, he wasn't stepping down. I remember there was a push in there. I found out about this from Chris Jacobs, a friend of ours. There was a photo we all took somewhere and it was in a Rolling Stone article and it labeled Brandon as a neo-Nazi. A neo-Nazi. Yeah. Which is.

And their logic of why he was a neo-Nazi was because Brandon makes YouTube videos on guns, a lot of which are either weird, historically interesting, like one-off. off like experimental stuff. There's not a lot of or historic guns that had like a big significance on like this gun was revolutionary to firearms because of XYZ yada yada yada yada. Amongst all of his videos, which he covers all of, he has covered some guns from Germany in World War II. That was enough. And talks about how, you know, the MG 42, the machine gun that the Nazis used was revolutionary for heavy machine guns because it fucking was. But because he made a video talking about a Nazi gun and saying it's a good gun because objectively it is. Yeah. He's a Nazi because

if the Nazis did anything and you liked it, you must also be a Nazi. Oh, that's nuts. Yeah, that was that was their logic. I mean, they were literally fitted by Hugo Boss. Yeah. I don't see anyone not wearing Hugh. You know what I mean? Like, it's, that's crazy. Not to mention, his name is Brandon Herrera. So they wouldn't like them. I, I, you know, it was a, it was a stretch. I mean, he, he, he, his grandmother literally escaped Nazi Germany. We've all met her. She's a lovely lady. She even walked back from France when she was 14.

So like her family literally fought against the Nazis. Wow. And so like, but it didn't matter. Like none of these things mattered. And so like eventually like I think his staff or whatever, they got it all taken down. But like it was just like photos of all of us like hanging out like doing the podcast or like just like random Instagram things that were out there. And they're like neo-Nazi, Brandon Herrera. There was the one where he said, God, what was it?

Somebody brought, because the running joke on the internet is I hate communism. So we had a guest come on that brought me the communist manifesto as a gift. Funny, ha-ha. And you keep it. They got on the, I already had it. I have a copy. I got to read it, you know. And say, yeah.

I got to learn the enemy. Got to know your enemy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that brought up, you know, the. the mind conf or whatever.

Yeah. And Brandon said that he owned a copy. He also owned a copy of the Communist Manifesto. And then he listed off like 10 other books that he also had copies of. And he goes, have you ever read it? It reads like a dude's schizo posting on the internet. Like Hitler was clearly fucking crazy. And then he goes, but watch, they're not going to add that part.

They're going to cut that out and then just say that I own a copy of mine comp. And like literally right exactly right where they did. He called where they were going to cut it. and put that in the ad and it's like, that's nuts. Holy shit. You just shouldn't be allowed to do that. And it's also crazy because I don't know when this stopped, but like my dad was in college in the mid-80s,

they assigned Mind Comp for classes to have to read it, to do a breakdown of like what sociopathy looks like. It used to be like that apparently that used to be a thing. And then at some point it was like, not only are they not assigning it. You can't you don't want that on your Amazon history. What if we expose people to this and then explain to them why it's so fucking stupid and horrible.

And then if it ever tries to happen again, they'll be able to identify it and know that it's stupid and horrible. 100%. You know what I mean? Like, but no. The answer is to just bury your head in the sand. Pretend that the problem can never happen and get mad if anybody tries to educate you. It's perfect.

But yeah. The reason they're attacking him is because he doesn't have any of the traditional levers. You know, he has money. He has power. They're attacking him because he's exactly the guy that I said he's supposed to be. Yeah, that's what he's supposedly. He's independently successful.

He's independently already got a bunch of money. He runs multiple successful businesses. He doesn't need people's money to get bought out. And they fucking hate that. Yeah. That's nuts. So like, how do we manipulate him? And he's like, you can't.

And they're like, we're just going to call you a Nazi. And he's like a Mexican. They're like, all right, we'll call you a neo Nazi. I'll say it louder. Like. Yeah. Yeah. I see and I have zero interest in ever going anywhere near politics or whatever.

I don't think people would like me over there in any way, shape, or form. But like, you know, I see some of these guys who will get labels like that. And you said, you said his grandma literally like survive World War II. Literally. Yeah. Literally. We've like my anger, if that actually happened. Because it's one thing to be lied about and stuff.

But like then when it's something personally you and they're saying like you're the opposite, I would not deal with that well. I would just fucking lose it. Good. That's what we need though. Unpopular opinion, I want to go back to the time where it's not a bunch of 70-year-olds that don't understand how to connect to a fucking Wi-Fi router running the country

trying to explain to them what the fuck AI and why it's important. And then I want guys like you and I want people getting on the floor of Congress being like, let's fucking run it right now. Like, I want to see you guys throwing hands. Like, that's when shit was getting done. Yeah.

Well, what's that one got the, the Treasury Secretary is fucking throwing hands with everyone these days. You seen that? I saw that he's like beat up Elon, beat up some other guy

another guy like they had to separate him from. Really? Yeah. Is that real? I swear to God, it's real. I've seen the clip of the one guy

being like, we can take this outside and he goes, okay, pop up, let's go. And he like gets up. That's Mark Wayne Mullen and the head of teamsters.

Oh, he threatened the head of teams. Yeah, and he's like, we can set us outside and he's like, we can't. And like, he's like, all right, cool, pop off. And I was like, Come on, dude.

I think a little popping off would be good. Yeah, Treasury Secretary Scott Besant has been involved in several high-profile internal clashes with the administration. Bill Pulte, Elon Musk. And we can't, every time we ask about this and I've gone to look for it, it's like almost the leader from the internet. There's another one. There was a guy like at the beginning of the Iran war that he, not Pulte. It was another one that he like beat the shit out of him back there. Good.

That's what I want. Yeah, he's fucking. That's what I want. He can throw it around. Think about how much cooler filler. Busters would be if they were just running fades the whole time. I want that. I want to have to like be taken into consideration of weight classes when I'm voting for

politicians. You know what I mean? Yeah. Iowa needs a heavyweight. Like, sorry. Is Iowa going to get a heavyweight? You're going to think about doing it? We get.

No, we'll see. We got, we got Zach Lawn running for governor right now. So. What's his story? Zach Lawn is like literally just a farmer from Iowa. His family has been there since fucking forever, like showed up in a cover. wagon and help build the state. Love that. Family fought in the Civil War.

Like all, he's got this huge family history. And, um, which side? Iowa fought for the north. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. Iowa never had slaves. Yeah.

Imagine comes out. South will rise again. So, uh, vote for me for governor. But, uh, no, Iowa's got, I think we're the only, were either the only state. or one of two states that has a rising cancer rate in the United States of America. And we have like the highest cancer rates in the world. And it's because. Glyphosate.

Iowa, yeah. Iowa is the most, I guess the term would be like terraformed plot of land on the planet. Like Iowa used to be all prairies with tall grass and now it's all corn everywhere. Brother. And the shit they spray on the corn gets in the groundwater and it's fucking up everything, nitrates, glyphosate. And his whole platform is we need to quit letting them do this. there's safer ways to do it.

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No, no, to their credit, they were pissed off at the Democratic Party. They were like, how in the fuck did you let a Republican beat you to this? He's like, historically speaking, this is a Democrat. Progressive issue. progressive issue. Like, well, the environment.

We want to, you know, do the healthy thing, even if it doesn't make profits. Like, historically speaking, that would be a Democrat talking point.

And they're like, how did you let this guy beat you to it? Because now he's the cancer's bad candidate. And I don't know how to run against that. Yeah. I can't say it's good. That's crazy. But so they have like the highest rise and rate of it.

And yeah. When did that, you know, because I think that's one thing, especially like someone who's been from the East Coast my whole life. I'm from Jersey. It is called the Garden State. We have some great farms and stuff here, but we got a little bit of everything, right?

And I'm from less alike, the farm area, if you will. But obviously, you look at Middle America. This is the ground zero of producing in this country and getting all everything into your food store. Like, that's supposed to be good for you and all that. When did it start to get out of control with the glyphosate and with all these things? And like, what was the idea of even bringing these things into the picture when we have human history that worked for so long without it. So I'm guessing here.

So not all this is completely accurate. So Iowa used to be, Iowa's all prairie. It used to be covered with this prairie grass that was really tall. Like historic accounts when the pilgrims and pioneers and stuff were coming over, they said this grass was so tall that if you were sitting on horseback, you could tie the horse the grass around the horse's neck. This grass has root systems that's like 10 times longer than the grass itself.

And I've seen it in museums. it's like three stories long, this massive root system. Three stories? Going down. It's like 30 feet. Yeah. It's insane how deep these roots go. Well, we got rid of all those roots and that stuff's been there for thousands and thousands

and thousands of years. The grass dies. The soil absorbs all the nutrients from that plant and that went on forever. So Iowa and the Midwest has like some of the most fertile growing ground on the planet. Corn takes all the nitrogen out of the ground. So for a long time, you would do crop rotations, and that's why Iowa is known most for corn and soybeans. So you rotate your field as like corn, soybean, corn, soybean, corn, because the corn takes all the nitrogen out of the ground, the soybeans puts nitrogen back in the ground. So you rotate.

And my guess, this is where I get into what I don't know, my assumption is with ethanol and everything else, it became a lot more profitable to grow corn because who the fuck eats soybeans? right so they figured oh we can just pump nitrogen into the ground with chemicals and then we don't need to grow soybeans to put that nitrogen back into the ground it's like a drug they became relying on so then now i was predominantly corn even when i moved there you know 15 years ago i would see way more soybean fields or like different times a year different crop yeah oh dave just pulled it out this is the root you're talking yeah so i mean that's the root system of this prairie grass that they had in Iowa going on for thousands of years. And that's why the ground there is Iowa dirt doesn't look like dirt.

And like dirt in the rest of the country is like brown. Yeah. Dirt in Iowa is like black like dark black. So I mean, it's just the soil is good. But then I don't know, it became profitable with ethanol and everything else to just grow corn. So now they're just pumping chemicals into the ground and spraying shit. And now when we're talking about potentially. you know where people are aware of this kind of thing we want to get rid of stuff like that we're doing

it at a time where we fucking inflated the dollar six ways to sunday you know people can't afford to buy a home anymore people are making financial decisions as to whether or not to make a kid we're funding all these wars but can't feed the poor and everything and so if you as far and this is a 30 000 foot in the air view of it when you go to unwind stuff like this there does have to be some short-term financial pain you know five 10 years something like that to readdress the industry and you're gonna like Like to me, I hate to be a cynic, but it's like they're going to keep kicking the can down the road because no one wants to eat that and then lose on a Tuesday in November. Yeah. I heard RFK talk about it on Rogan that they're looking into robots that shoot lasers at bugs.

Dude, they look dope. Have you seen them? I haven't seen them. It's a giant trailer, basically, that they pull behind a tractor. It looks like a fucking solar panel laying down flat. It's a robot. It's just a trailer. But it looks, it's like a big metal.

And it's got wheels and it's got AI and cameras on it and lasers everywhere. And you just drive it over the crops. And it's like a Star Wars battle scene. It's just shooting lasers at little bugs. Bug zaps it. And they just drive it over the field and it kills everything. This is it? Yeah.

Yeah. Wait a second. These are the robots. And it's like this is what we could be using instead of spraying chemicals that give you cancer on our fields. So what he said on the episode is that it's something that HHS is looking into. the problem is cost, but until this is like up and running and even they've like figured out the cost, if they just pull the rip cord right now and take out glyphosate, it'll collapse our food industry

because we have nothing else. So it's kick the can, yes, but it does give me hope that he's like actually looking into it. Because from what I understand he has a history of doing really good stuff. He cleaned up the water out here, right? Isn't that what he did here? Yeah, the Hudson. Yeah, he cleaned up when everyone else was like, nah, don't do it. He's like, I'm going to do it. Yeah, he's a long time.

You can definitely say he's a long time environmentalist and, you know. Also, jacked. He is. Dude, I'm going to work out until I'm dead. Like, because of him, like, everyone's like, oh, he's not that strong. I'm like, dude, he's 70. Yeah, he's like 72 or 703. He's jacked.

And I saw him, what was it? I think it was working out with Kid Rock, but like, I did see him like work out with, oh, it was Mike O'Hern. He was a Mike O'Hern. Yeah, yeah, I was cold shim. He pops top. He's in jeans. And he's reping on incline bench at 72, 135. I'm like, that's fucking good.

That's crazy. Yeah. Most people in their 20s and 30s can't do that. And your papaw's doing it. I mean, fast forward to when I'm 70, dude, I'm going to be obnoxious. Speaking of here, what is up with you can't pump your own gas here? Oh, yeah. What's that about it?

Oh, you're unaware of this? No, we live in America. I don't trust any state that doesn't let me pump my own gas. I know. Listen. You can't pump your gassy. Don't knock it before you try it. It's actually a very nice luxury in this state.

Which side of the Civil War did you guys fight on? What the fuck you're not going on? I'm not pumping my own gas. Just hear me out. Listen, like when I drive over to Pennsylvania or into New York, I'll sit at the gas station for a minute and forget. I'm like, oh, you got gas PTSD? Yeah, then I know. No, because I'm like, I'm like, where the fuck is the guy?

And then he doesn't come by. And I'm like, oh, right, I'm in a different state. I pump it. But like, when you're here and you can just pull up, like, if you go to a wah-wah and like you want to go in there you want to get your coffee get a couple bananas or something like you just pull up you hand the guy your card you come back it's crazy you give a stranger your credit card and you just leave it's amazing this camera's everywhere oh try me you know you don't like that europeans bitch about that a lot i didn't know that about what uh like europeans when they come

over here a lot of them they say it's really weird at restaurants that americans give their credit card to the waiter or waitress and they take the credit card away to run the transaction. They think that's weird. Apparently that's weird to them. Well, they do, in Europe, they do always bring the thing to the table and they tap it right in front of you. I mean, they're doing, that's, that's fine.

You can also look and be like, oh, there's like $300 from O'Charlie's or whatever. I just don't think that realizes this is America and we'll throw hands over shit because that's the same thing in France where they were like, Americans are trying to fight the pick pockets and the pick pockets aren't used to handling that. Usually it's like a game. If we catch you, they just give you your stuff back. And the Americans are just beating the shit out of the. people. Dude, you've seen Tyler Oliver's content on that with the pickpockets?

Tyler Oliver. You've heard of him. He's huge on YouTube. But he does, he has one series that he does where he goes to different cities in Europe and goes after the scammers and everything. I think I know he you're talking about. So he, we were back in Rome a couple weeks ago and he actually hit me up on something separate. And I told him, I said, dude, I forgot to tell you this in December when I was here. And now we were just thinking again when I was here. But when I lived in Rome 12 years ago, it was the safest city ever. The, the worst. One thing was when you'd go on the bridges, there'd be pickpockets and scammers and shit. So you always had to like walk across with your hands like this.

Now you go on a bridge over there ever since he fucking was there. You can't find one, dude. I was like, I think you scared him all off because he'll like tackle them and shit while he's video on him. Like, scammer, scammer. And they fucking, they don't like him. Hell yeah. Good. That's what I'm saying.

Like you've solved the problem. Yes. But what's the reasoning behind having people pump your gas as opposed to you doing it? It's just a really nice service. We're a great state. It's like a law, right? It is. I believe it actually, can we check that deep?

I'm pretty sure it is codified. Like, you have to have one. I'm just curious what the legislation was. Oh, I can I guess? Can I guess? This was 100% like some union bullshit when cars were coming out. Got you. That's right.

All the union fucking guys that feed the Haiti or horse at the bar are going to be out of a job. They got to learn how to pump gas. And then we need to make sure they keep their jobs. because we don't want to lose those. Okay, here we go. So under the retail gas dispensing safety act, that's such a gay name, but, you know, whatever. It is illegal for a customer to pump their own gas in Jersey.

It's the only state in the U.S. that still maintains this ban. The reason the law was originally passed in 1949 due to safety hazards and fire concerns associated with dispensing flammable liquids. You know, we do smoke a lot of cigarettes in the state. You know? That could be why. It's like, you're elected official. said, I don't trust these fucking idiots with flammable wicklands.

I'm telling you, the thief, you can't trust these civilians with the gas pumping. They'll get all confused. But once they, once you like get used to it, it is like a drug and you're like, this is very nice. It's very convenient for your day. Yeah. And we still know how to pump? Like when I go to the state, I'm fucking pump.

Once you get used to the Big Brother State and the government controls everything, it's very comfortable. It's very comfortable. You're literally one step away from like, everybody else is worried about like, everybody else is worried about them putting auto kill switches in cars so they could just shut your car down and prevent travel. New Jersey government's like, we'll just fire the gas pumping guys and nobody will know what the fuck to do. Yeah. Well, I mean, a lot of times like, you know, it is like an Indian guy or a Pakistani guy or something. So it doesn't feel like big brother. Like, I don't

feel like they would be. Yeah, we don't mind if that guy catches fire. Is that what you're saying? We know. That's what I heard you say. Yeah. This is crazy work. Um, is it a 20, 24-hour situation? Yes. There's literally a guy on post, like a military base. All night, graveyard shift. If I go get gas before a long drive

at like 3.30 in the morning or four, there's a dude waiting for me saying, what do you want? Like, 89 regular, let's go. Dang. I don't know. I feel like you're just one step away from being like,

you're over your monthly allotment. Go back home. I mean, it was a 1949 law. We've been good on this one. I'm just saying like, it just feels like it's one step away from being like, What's captains?

What? The fucking balls on your government in 1949 to be like, oh, oh, all you guys that just won World War II that were literally having jeeps mailed to you in boxes and assembling them in the field and driving them into combat? You just got home, got your life together, and now you can afford a car? I don't trust you to pump gas. No. I'm not buying it.

Hold on a minute. They Moore said, we're going to give you a nice service. You don't have to pump your gas. This is hella finessing. Listen, I'm a finesse. I like this. You're trying to take it away. The cope is real.

Yeah, I do have cope on this. And I'm like the bad, like, you know, always worried about Big Brother with everything, but I feel like you're roping this in. I think you're coming to realize that they got you and you're mad about it. I don't think so. This is my new goal. Is this like a Peter, too? Was he alive in 1949? Was Peter Thiel?

Was Peter Thiel? Resident of Argentina? Oh, God. Yeah, I just had my boy pop in here. Hold on, no, no, don't, don't change it. Now, are you allowed to plug in your own Teslas or do you have to have a guy for that too? No, you can plug in your own Teslas. I'll show you.

It's right up here. I mean, power can kill just like fire. It can kill just like it. If you watch Avatar, power is more dangerous than fire. But actually, here's, here's a mind fuck for you. I think that's New Jersey saying don't get a Tesla because you got to fucking do it yourself. So we're going to stay on gasoline cars. It's the last state to do it.

Just turn that around on you. See? they're trying to disincentivize electric vehicles. They're trying to say, we do gasoline in this fucking state. Don't threaten me with a good time. The first politician to run on V8s and no carbure, no emission standards is getting my vote. Like, I'm all for it. So come to New Jersey, where you have gas attendance and that's what they're running on, apparently.

I don't know. Dave, you're supposed to back me up here. No, I like, I want to be able to pump my own gas from being honest. You sound of a bit. I did. You sound like you. I'm sorry. That's why I was keeping quiet.

I didn't want to, you know, but it's a pain in the ass. Well, that's just stamping on me while I'm drowning. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm not for it. I don't want to bring my car here. But you are a big fan of Peter Thiel. I don't fucking, which one is that?

That's the reptile. More specifically? It's the guy who funds. No, which billionaire is he? How do you make a billion dollars? PayPal Mafia, Facebook, board, best founders fund. What's his AI project? Which one is he?

Is he Palantir? Chat GPK? I think he's Palantir. I'm trying to think if there's another one that he's on the board of. Right? Yeah, he's got to be on a lot. He's honestly been angel investing more than anything the past 20 years. Where are you at with AI? You're more down these conspiracy rabbit holes than I am.

I am. I would assume. Really? I would assume. I walked through your office. What was in my office? There's, you know, white boards and red. There's whiteboards and red strings everywhere.

That's a script. I thought we were in Philly. It looked like Charlie over there. Oh my God. I think AISOVILIA. Yeah. I think AIs in this sense, like, I think it's like every innovation before it in one way and then unlike it.

The way it's like it is that people have always been afraid of the next big technology and they say it's going to end the world and yada, yada, yada, but it just over time, even if there's pain, like it creates overall progress. all progress and I think there's a lot of great things AI can be used for. The way it's not like previous technology though is because of the exponential curve of technology, we're not talking about something that has the potential if it's seen through to be able to outthink a human being. And then there's a lot of weird slippery slopes with that. I'm going to be honest with you. Every AI I've ever fucked what can already outthink a lot of human beings. Right. That's the scary

part to me. It's like and who has their hand their fingers on these triggers? Like do you think Sam Altman seems like a regular schmo, I don't. You're mad that AI's too smart. I'm mad because people are too dumb. Come to Jersey. They're smarter over here, apparently. All right. Maybe they're smarter because they haven't been inhaling gas.

We are not going to sit here. I'm not going to sit here and be a cuck at the gas pump being like, I feel so smart right now. I've never had someone fight. It's always the opposite. People are like, yo, people pump your gas. I will never in my life pull up with my car. car and look another man in the eyes, be like, yeah, bro, pump my tank. It's not happening.

Stick it in. You do it. I'll watch while I sit in this chair. Not happening. I'll be pumping the gas. Do you guys have fun? All right, I'm going to go. Yes, Bush.

Okay. She full? All right, I'm going to take off. No, I don't need a receipt. No eye contact. It's weird. Let's go. I think you got to make a TikTok before you leave.

Do you tip the guy? No, you don't tip. That's one, like, I'm a huge tipper. That's one thing you don't tip. The gas station attendants paid full salary. Because that's his job. They're paid a full salary. It's not like a waiter or something like that.

Those guys, you tip the shit out of it. Don't tell me you tip the gas attendant. You tip? No, no. Okay. But sometimes they'll hit the hood for you or the windshield. Oh, yeah, yeah. Give them a dollar when they do that.

There you go. You might tip them. They never do that though. Yeah, no. Not anymore. I haven't seen someone do the window squeegee in probably like 10 years. Yeah, there's no class anymore. Yeah.

And the thing that piss me off about that is like I didn't ask for that. Maybe I like my window dirty. That's why I have window fluid. Like you don't need to come do that just to get more money out of me. I'm already spending fucking, well, now it's like $7 a gallon. just to get... Seriously? No, it's like five.

But, you know, it got up to seven in California. Just to get gas because it's more expensive at the moment. It's like, I... You know, I already got a big bill coming. You're really... This is really making me rethink things. He's mad because he wants to do the cleanup. I get it.

This is like a giant... The whole thing. Did you pump your own gas in the military? Yeah. They didn't have like a designated... No. They have stations all around bases. They have guys whose job it is to drive like the giant fuel tank truck.

Right. But yeah, no, usually you're pumping your own gas. That's a gas attendant though. Because they're getting you the gas. And this at least you can do is pump. Well, it's kind of like the semi truck that brings the gas to the gas station and then you still pump your own shit. Okay. All right.

I got you. I got you. How long have you been out of the military, though? Me? 2012. 2012. So you got in, do you get in 18? 17? No shit. Yeah, it was still in high school.

Was that something you always wanted to do? No. How'd you end up? Poor, got to pay for college somehow. I thought I had to go to college. So, joined my senior year. Where did you live at the time? Iowa.

So I thought you said moved to Iowa 15 years, while that would be like 20 years. Yeah, I moved to Iowa when I was like 12, 13 from California. So I finished high school and everything in Iowa. Where'd you live? California stay? All over Northern California, Chico, Orland, Orville. And why'd you move to Iowa? Just family decided to move.

I was a kid, moved with him. And then got to spend the rest of the time in Iowa, joined National Guard while I was still in high school, shipped off, did all the training for that right after. And then tried to go to nursing school. Failed that miserably, not my thing. You as a nurse? Ralph.

I was like, I'm a combat medic. That's close to nursing. That'll be similar. It's not. That is how they pitch it actually. Yeah. That'll be similar. No, it isn't.

No. No. No. No. No. That's not. Yeah. Healthcare state.

I thought I was real good at giving IVs. I didn't realize that everybody I was trying to give IVs to was 20 to 30 year old men that were in reasonably good shape. And I didn't have to go through four inches of fat to find a fucking vein. You know what I mean? Like it's just. does everything's harder, everything sucks. It's not a good time. Wasn't for me.

Yeah, a lot of different personalities you're dealing with on that for sure. Not exciting. So then you became an electrician. Yeah, quit nursing school, went and joined an apprenticeship, became a journeyman electrician, did that for almost 10 years. And then it turned into this. Then it turned into this YouTube thing. And now I'm here.

Now I'm in New Jersey, where somebody's pumping my, gas for me. I'm at the peak of luxury. That's right. It is cool though because like I think that there's been a recent movement over the last five, six years that I've seen more to where like trades that by the way are like really good jobs, electrician, plumber, all these things that are have less people going into them. They're starting to say like, hey, more people should look at that instead of spending $200,000 for a gender studies degree. Yeah, absolutely. And like the other thing is like the most people don't think about is it gets pitched all these kids as like you need to find what you're passionate about and then go to college and get a degree for that. I got a newsflare.

You don't fucking even know who you are, let alone what you're passionate about or what you want to do. Trying to figure that out when you're 16 and plan the rest of your life, very small margin for success. You have no fucking idea what you like. You've been hanging around the same people exactly your age that grew up in extremely similar circumstances. You think you like the like the same shit. In 10 years, you're going to look back at what you were into in high school and cringe and be like, I can't believe I did that.

I can't believe I wore those clothes. I can't believe I listen to that music. I can't believe any of it. Like, why would you stage your whole life off of what you thought when you were 16, 17 years old? Because that's what the system sold you is actually like a modicum of truth. And it's never,

I don't think it's ever been. Right. But like the, the trades in particular is, I don't think I would be. here if I wasn't an electrician first. And the reason I say that is, I can call my boss that I had and I can fly back to Iowa and I could probably finish out the work day if I want my old job back.

Like I still have a journeyman electrician's license. I can go anywhere in the country and get a job making six figures right now. You know what I mean? So like me being able to quit my job and be like, I got a wife and kids and I'm about to quit my job to be a fucking YouTuber. That sounds like it's going to fail for sure. But I had a certain level of confidence of knowing, hey, if this doesn't work out, worst case scenario, I go back to where I am right now.

Yeah. My life can't get worse from what I'm already doing. I'm living the worst case scenario. It can only get better. So I might as well try. And I tried and it worked. And if it didn't, I would have went back to being an electrician and I could have said I tried. You know what I mean?

So like when you get these trades licenses, you become a journeyman electrician, a journeyman plumber or any of this stuff, you have that for the rest of your life. You can always fall back on that. Like my new minimum wage is a six-figure salary with full benefits. That's amazing. You know what I mean? And like you can get if I wish like, I don't wish I didn't join the military. But like had I known that this was an option, I probably wouldn't have because the whole reason

I went was to go and pay for college. And if I would have known that at 18 years old, I could have joined an apprenticeship and been and journeyman electrician at 22 making six figures, why wouldn't you do that? And then you have that for the rest of your life. You're still 22 years old. Now you, if you want to go to college, you can go to college and fucking pay for it. Right. And if you don't like it, guess what? You can fucking quit and keep doing what you're doing and dick off and try different stuff till you do find what you're really passionate about. And then you can go do that. I don't think they want people to know that. It's insane. You know? There's not a lot of jobs that are,

like you just said, where it's like you know you can come back to it because you have that skill and there's no bullshit people, if the job needs to be done, you can be plugged in and do it. All these other, this whole corporate mindset is like, well, you got to rise through the ranks. You go from fucking associate to VP and this and that. And if you stop, God forbid some girl goes home and has a kid and decides to take a couple years off, she's like done in the chain. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like there's something about that that just feels like that's the fucking plan. And I think that we're in a moment where enough people are waking up to that, then maybe it can change for the next generation. I really believe that. You know, you see more people do what you did or more people actually like take a chance on a career and things like that, go out and try to make something. Like, that's what the American dream is supposed to be, I think, like either or, you know. Yeah.

I hate a corporate life. I wasn't any good at it. Yeah. I was really, really bad at it. I can't stress that enough. Like, it's just. especially coming from the military, the problem I had was like in the military, at least when I was in, you know, when you're in like combat arms, like the infantry and doing stuff

like that. And they can test this too is you work until the job's done and then that's it. Like you go home. Like you get the job done. You go home. You're training. You go home. And so like I treated most of corporate life like that.

If I was done, I was done. And they're like, no, no, you're not done. You got to stay. And I'm like, I don't understand. I got to sit underneath this fucking white noise. Sit underneath the you have a suit on though Well that's the other part that

You know what I'm saying? I completely agree because like when I was an electrician It was like don't even wrong There was times where like I was dicking off at work You know I was with the boys We were doing pranks whatever with each other But like for the most part it was like If I'm somewhere as an electrician

There's work to be done And I can do something And I really enjoyed like showing up to An empty plot of land And by the time I leave, there's a fucking house there that's got the lights on. Like I enjoyed A seeing that progress, but I enjoyed there always being work to do. And I have a bunch of friends that work in corporate and shit. Like I have a buddy with a history degree.

That's a fucking banker. Like, and he's like, yeah, I have to work. Not him particularly. But like these people are like, oh, I have to actually work like maybe six hours a week. And the rest of the time, it's kind of just me fiddle fucking around on the computer. I just have to punch the clock for fucking eight hours a day. Whereas like a lot of these trade jobs I have, my boss would be like, hey, here's what we got to do today. I bid it for eight hours of work.

Fucking, if it takes longer, it takes longer. I got to pay overtime. If you get it done in fucking six hours and it's done right, you want to go home. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck off. I don't care. Yeah.

Like this is what we're doing today. That would make too much sense. Yeah. You know? And like I've, I've kept that same mentality with all the employees that I've hired that work for me personally. And it was like, here's how much I'm willing to pay. Here's my expectations.

And they're like, okay, what hours doing? do I need to work. I don't give a shit. If you can get this done in four hours, great. Perfect. Wonderful. Go on with your life. And a lot of the people that have like come from those corporate backgrounds are like shocked or think it's like a test or I'm fucking with them. It's like I don't. I need this job done. I'm willing to pay this much money. If you can get it done and work a second fucking job and make even more money, great. I'm happy for you. Do it. Well, Zach, you were saying like in the military, they, it's just common. sense. You get it done. Yeah. That's it. I'm hearing that and how you're describing this,

though. Like it sounds like your entire baseline, whether it be like why nursing didn't work out and then why you were effective, like moving into the electrician business, like one plus one equals two. That's totally from like kind of being ingrained into you at a young age that you're working in the military where it's let's go. This, this, that done. Yeah. It's just it's, it's very simple. Like one of the jobs I had was at a company that doesn't exist anymore. And it was 2016, Trump had just been elected. And in healthcare,

the Affordable Care Act had been rolled out at that point. So, like, smaller hospitals were being absorbed by bigger organizations. Some just didn't end up existing anymore, community-based hospitals.

But, like, I had just left business school, and I show up, and there's a generation of people who don't understand what a PDF is. And they literally had no idea what I was doing

any given moment. Like, one time I got, pulled aside you were working for congress no no they were they were all too old for a congress which is bad but uh i got this very clear memory of like we're in a meeting and like i had my laptop and i'm just like typing away on google docs somebody says something you know make a note call this person whatever and then i got pulled aside by my boss and he was like uh handy had talked to you about your meeting etiquette and i was like oh did i say something yeah yeah yeah yeah and i was like did i say

something. I was like, could they see my tattoos? Like I, you know, I could look like post Malone now and everyone wouldn't care, but 2016, it was not the same. Right. Especially in Boomer corporate America. So I was like, oh, what do? And he's like, well, you're always on your computer. And I was like, oh, yeah, I was taking notes. And he's like, yeah, but you're on a computer. And I go, yeah, I take notes on Google Docs and like, I type it there and it's everywhere. It's saved and it's done. And he's like, that's not how we do it here. We do is we write down all of our notes on paper. I need you to go thinly slice a fucking tree.

Yeah. And then he's, I'll never forget this. I'll never forget this. I'm getting PTSD. He looks at me and he goes, and then we go back and digitize it. Oh my God. And I was like, sir, with all due respect, I'm not doing that. And he's like, well, that's how we do it.

And I go, I am not going to write stuff down on paper. And then after a meeting a lot like 15 to 30 minutes. This is how they plan their day. So a 30 minute meeting will become an hour or deal. an hour ordeal. So now you can see why the company doesn't exist anymore. And I knew it. It was just like, it was so rough. And it was things like that all the time. Like I had to explain to them how to like, like they wanted me to digitize everything. And so I went to this like $300,000 scanner, printer, copy or whatever. I took all the old files. They'd kept, moved multiple

different buildings. I just put them in there. And I was like, we put this in here and it organizes it. You can search it. I'm going to pull up the file. And they were just like, wow, that's crazy. We're just going to keep paper copies. Like, it was just like one thing after another. Because I was on the, the, like, cutting edge of technology coming into, like, healthcare and to see people that were actually, like, trying to stop it is like a core memory. I'll never forget it. I used to joke, because I worked at a bank out of college for the first five years. And it was like in order, I had to ask for permission to use toilet paper when I took a shit. That's where the red tape was. everywhere and like was it name him it was Bank of America Merrill Lynch

and they were just kidding you know I didn't say no no that I've talked about it before but it they were so handcuffed by fucking a million lawyers in a room interpreting laws and then creating guidelines that no one could ever break it it's like if one person an enormous bank ever breaks a rule everyone regardless of their job role that's now like it creates a new requirement that you have just to be able to get through a hoop so as an example I was not allowed to text clients This is in 2017, 2018, 2019, like, I'm not allowed to send a text to a fucking client I work with. That's against the rules.

And when I went and left the bank, I was telling my boss who I was really close with, I was like, listen, I'm a liability. Like, I text people. Okay. She put that on a shirt. I'm a liability. This is not going to work out. And it just made no sense. And you see why places like that have had to totally change, like even how they do business and stuff because people don't want to work there.

you know it's rough i actually got offered a job at a what is it are they called financial centers so i got offered a job out of grad school by guy who's like he could run this financial center he's like he could be the whatever and he's this was 2020 and he's like and i was just like i don't know man i think banks are kind of going the way of the dodo bird there's like less and less of them the ATM can literally do everything you need you can deposit your checks with your phone and he was like dude banks will always exist and i go i didn't say that what i said is there's not going to be these anymore in a different form. And I don't think he works at any of the banks anymore.

Is there just is there a certain age that people hit where they're just like, that's it. No more new shit ever. Because like I experienced this same thing, even working in like the trades where like some of the older dudes that have been doing this for 30 years I would work with. And they would just adamantly hate new power tools that were like extremely fucking convenient. So like as an electrician, you have to cut a lot of like metal piping to run wires through EMT, rigid conduit, whatever it is.

And when I was first an apprentice, they had, you know, recently come out with a portable bandsaw. It's this big. It's a fucking band saw that you can cut metal with with a battery from like DeWalt or Milwaukee. Pick it up with your hand. And cut the pipe. Up until then, everything was either a big machine they were cutting it on or a

fucking hacksaw. Old guys fucking hated it. I had, I had a couple old guys try to tell me that for my first couple years as an apprentice, they wanted me to cut with a hacksaw anyways because I needed to know how to do it. I was like, I don't need three years of experience to know how to cut something with a fucking hacksaw. Okay. A, I already know how to do it. B, that's stupid. I think you need a day. I'm not doing it. Like, or like even the difference between a regular hand drill and an impact drill, they fucking hated the impact drill, which was hilarious because I don't know what it was with these older guys.

It's like they didn't have, I don't know if they didn't play video games. They didn't have They didn't have any throttle control. To them it was zero or a hundred. Yeah. So every time they'd go to hit an impact, hit, and they'd go too fast and then fuck up their shit. I was like, just don't squeeze it all the way. It's fine, bro.

Just have a little sensitivity. Your poor wife, this is fucking awful. Like, what are we doing here? Yeah. No, I think it's the two themes of what you're saying are people get used to what they did and also people want other people after them, the young bucks to have to go through what they did too. And so the idea that like someone like you could come in and be like, hey, we got these really cool new things that can do the job better.

They're like, no, you got to do it. You got to do it. It's like your old math teacher. It's like, no, you have to show the work all the way to it. It's like, but bitch, I got the answer. It doesn't matter. I loathe. I loathe the attitude of I did it.

You have to suffer through it like I did. I fucking hate it. I do too. It is the worst attitude for Social Security. Here we go. This is the argument for social security. of like, I've, I've been getting fucked by the government in this Ponzi scheme my entire life and didn't say anything. And now you have the balls to come in and point out that this is a Ponzi

scheme and isn't going to work and it's going to blow up in your face. You need to shut the fuck up and take it just like I did. It's like, no, no, I don't actually. I hate to break it to you. No. I don't know. I can't stand in that. When does it run out 2032? I think. Yeah, can you explain this to people why, you know, it is very problematic. Why do you call it a Ponzi scheme? Is a Ponzi scheme? Because it fucking is. I know, but explain it for internet.

Oh my God. Okay. Thank you. One of the problems you have is in a Ponzi scheme. Okay, you have, I don't know, a generation of a lot of people. We'll call it, I don't know, the baby boomers. If you had to name it. A lot.

Big number. Yeah. Big number. Yeah. And they start at the bottom of this shape. I don't know. We'll call it a triangle or a period. So to speak, like a structure.

This big population, this big population starts at the bottom and they start paying into Social Security. They think for some reason that the money is going into a savings account or a retirement account and it's just sitting there waiting for them. It's not. They're taking their money and they're giving it to the older generation above them. Smaller, smaller generation. Okay.

Not as big. Not baby boomers. Greatest generation. They won World War II. They were awesome. Okay. So they're paying all their money to them. Okay.

That's fine. And then they have kids. They go down here. But they're a smaller generation also. And all their money goes to the big generation. Okay. And then the generation below that's even smaller. And now, now after, you know, five generations, the big part is at the top of the fucking pyramid.

And there aren't enough people to pay in to fucking get them the money they need. So what you're saying. Well, a Ponzi scheme is when there's no underlying asset. Go. So there's no underlying asset with Social Security. There isn't. And then you take all the money from the new investors and pay off the old investors, which is exactly what Social Security is doing. It's a fucking Ponzi scheme.

How do you fix it? You fucking quit doing it. Just but pull the rug out and say it doesn't exist anymore. If you wanted to do it the right way and taper it off and make it work, first of all, you come out and say this was fucking stupid. Here's how we're going to fix the problem. and you tell people, hey, we haven't been giving all your money to a fucking checking account and it's not sitting there anymore. It doesn't fucking exist.

Okay? You get a fucking cut off. First of all, you let people opt in and out of it because right now I've been paying into Social Security since I was 14 years old. If you gave me the option, sign away your rights. We're not going to give you any money back. I'll do it. But you never have to pay Social Security again and you're just done.

I'm signing that shit so fast. Keep the fucking money. Leave me alone. would make too much sense, though. Exactly. Everyone would opt out. Everybody else, you taper it off. You say, okay, you're 40.

You paid in for this long. We're going to quit collecting Social Security. And then when you reach retirement age, you're going to get this level of benefits. Yeah, grandfine. The amount that you paid in a percentage. Like you paid in 60% of your working life. You're going to get 60% of social security. We highly advise that you as an adult take the money you're saving by not paying into Social Security and invest it for your fucking retirement.

Now here's and here's the issue and because I agree completely and I think that's the exact way to solve it. But again, it makes too much sense because I remember like I was talking with this guy one time and it's, you know, at the beginning of my career, whose literal job was like he was a social security analyst and he raised a lot of the same points. Like yeah, this is demographics aren't looking to deal with this. But I was like, how do you end it? And he said the problem is the minute you come out. out as a politician, you talk about incentives here and say, I am for ending social security. You're done. It's a rat.

You're done. You're done. It's because there's a fundamental misunderstanding because the amount of people that genuinely have the rebuttal, I paid into it my whole life. That's my money under the notion of it's sitting in a savings account for me. You're trying to take my money. It's like, no, dude. The government already took your money and gave it to other people and then raided it every

time they wanted to to go invade the Middle East. and you sat by and did fucking nothing about it your entire life. I'm sorry, that's not my fault. I didn't do that. Just because you were kicking around letting the government fuck you your entire life doesn't mean I'm obligated to do it to for your benefit. Sorry.

100%. Like, that fucking sucks. You should probably get a hold of the government that did it. Quit getting mad at me for not wanting to get fucked and get mad at the person that's fucking you. Yes. Like,

that's the analogy I give. Like, If, I don't know, if Zach is robbing us, okay, and Zach comes up to you and is like, give me all your money and you have $500. And then he robs me and I only have $100. Are you going to get mad because you got robbed more than me or are you just going to get mad at him because he got robbed? No, you're directing your anger at me because like, you only lost $100. Shut the fuck up, bro. Like, no, we both got robbed.

That fucking sucks. Let's blame him. But they don't see it that way. it does seem to be, I don't know if this is the right word, it does seem that there is a generational cognitive dissidents with the baby boomers. I mean, and, you know, I guess maybe. Well, baby boomers expose the fault in democracy as a whole. Yeah, but they also, you know, caused the opioid crisis, multiple wars, social security collapsing. I mean, we literally, they literally had the world handed on to, to them on the platter. It's just like, don't mess it up.

We won the war. Do good. And they're like, we're going to pump GMOs and the food. Like, we're going to, we're going to poison the food and then we're going to, we're going to sell heroin through Walgreens because it looks pretty because historically, opium has been known to be a good thing. Like, it's, that's, that's like, the opio thing bothers me to this day, especially someone in health care. I used to see those vultures. You know, they would show up in their high heels and their business suits and they're just like, you know, just looking at doctors, like, you want to go on a free trip? All you got to do is give them clean looking heroin. And like, no one, no one blink. They all were like, oh, it's fine.

It's fine. The study said it's good. Oh, who did the study? Jeff. You know what I mean? Like, they did the study. Oh, so it's an internal study. Yeah, doctors wouldn't lie. Why would doctors lie? Because they get paid more. Like, it's just all this thing. And so it's like one thing after another. And then the biggest boom they're going to do is we have to, we're the ones carrying the bill for all of it. They made all of these problems, generational problems. And now looking at us being like, AI's taking jobs. And I'm like, well, you killed all the jobs. You killed all the food. You killed all the things. And then it's just kind of like this. It's really weird, especially when you're in place of like, and you guys are also in charge of most of the government. Yeah, I think so of course, like every generation, there's a subset and it's a different number.

It's just the way humanity works. But there's a subset of people that are either incompetent, evil, or both, right? And they certainly have that. But I think when you have two things take over society, which I would argue it has throughout. the life of baby boomers and that those two things being group think and backwards incentives it causes a passivity and you said it perfectly a cognitive dissonance yeah to how you know oh this one little block right here is not just one little block it's one of a thousand blocks that we're stacking into this entire call it actually a card into an entire house a cards and

eventually the music's going to stop and someone's going to flick it and the whole thing comes down and they just when you're putting each card in there one at a time it's just human nature the boiling frog idea like you don't think of it that way and now we're starting to see that frog's getting fucking hot in there yeah and our generation seeing that and now the anger's directed i get it the other part is the baby boomers exposed like the flaw in democracy as a whole because it's a bigger generation than everybody else and as a bigger generation like i said when you know, you don't really know yourself in high school because you're growing up around other people all the same age.

There's certain fads or certain things you want at the same point in time. When you get a, when the new toy comes out at Christmas, everybody wants that new Nerf gun. Everybody wants the new particular bike at the same time. It's that on a generational level. So as a generation around the same time, everybody wants cheap college. And then everybody wants cheap housing. and then everybody wants low taxes. And then everybody gets towards retirement.

And then they want benefits like Social Security, which means high taxes. And because they have the bigger voting numbers, they're constantly able to impose what that one generation wants on the rest of society. And they're not even doing it maliciously. They're just coming from the, I'm a person living a day-to-day life. This is what I see in my life that I need. And that's how I'm going to vote. Like, I can't fault them for that.

but it exposes the flaw in democracy as a whole. Like, what do you do when one generation of people want something at the same time and they have the voting power to get it? And it's to the detriment of everybody else. And that's what's happening right now. How would you fix that? Would you do weighted voting or something like that per like year block? I can't. I don't know.

First of all, I don't think everybody should be allowed to vote anyways. Ooh. Yeah. Maybe that should be like a. actual starting point. You don't think everyone should be a lot of it? Absolutely fucking not. I can tell you the moment I came to this conclusion. Okay. I was at a Verizon. Yeah. I was getting a new phone and it was me. Some other dude in a dirty high-vis shirt that clearly just got off off of work. It's like six o'clock in the afternoon. I'm getting my,

my photos and stuff transferred onto my new phone. And it's like I got the Verizon guy helping me, Verizon guy helping him and a third Verizon guy just kind of standing there and we're all chatting while things are getting done. And this 60 year old woman comes storming in Verizon with a fucking attitude. She's holding a surge protector, you know, like the power strip with like seven plug-ins on it. She's holding that and a fucking phone charger in her hand. And she walks up and is like, you sold me this yesterday and it doesn't work. I'm watching.

Like, I'm engaged now. The Verizon guy's like, what do you mean it doesn't work? Like it won't charge your phone. And she goes, no, I can't even plug it in. And you know how the fucking phone? Chargers now, the prongs fold in because some asshole stepped on it one time, so now they have to fold in so you don't step on them. She grabs it with the prongs folded in and just smacks the two pieces together like a fucking caveman that doesn't know how fire works and looks at him and goes, see? And he folds the prongs out and plugs it in.

And then she realizes that she's a fucking moron and goes, thanks and walks out. so yes not everybody should be allowed to vote it was a fucking two-piece puzzle with one moving part i have the thought every time i go through tsa and they're like no shirt no no belt no shoes no laptops there's signs there's a guy doing it 9-11 happened a fuck ton of years ago and everyone in there is just like do i do i wear my belt do i wear what about my laptop sir do you have a laptop no but if i wanted to bring one later do i need to scan it no shirt no belt i mean no shoes belt, no laptop. I don't have any shoes. Do you need them? I have, I have preached. Or like, that's when I'm like, I'm, the older I get, the more pro barriers to entry I am.

That's what I'm trying to tell you. I want barriers to do. I don't care what it is at this point. Give me any standard to become a voter. I'll take it. I want you, I want you to dream with me for a minute. I want you to dream with me. Dream with me. All right. Dream with me, brother. I want you to go back about 89 miles from here, give or take. Maybe it's 91. I haven't Fuck, I'm gonna have somebody pump my gas. And the, yeah, no, no, you won't. You won't because gas ain't around yet and you're on the other side of the border.

I want you to go back to 1776 and a little beer hole in fucking Philadelphia. Okay. I'm not even going to the Constitution in New York. I'm saying before then, when these guys were like, yo, fuck this tyranny. Yeah, we're out. Type shit, yeah.

These are the guys that then we're just gonna give them the credit of 13 years later came to an agreement that, you know, we got this thing set up and people can vote on who their elective representatives are. What do you think they would say about imposing some sort of ban on people voting. They did that. They did that.

What are we talking about? What do you mean they did that? In 1776, the founding fathers did not fucking be like, everybody gets an equal say. You had to own land. You had to be an American. You had to be invested in the system. You had to have something at stake. You had to be a stakeholder in America.

You had to be a landowner. At no point did the founding fathers just be like, everybody gets a fucking vote. But never happened. So they didn't let. women vote. They obviously didn't let slaves vote and stuff like that. But I'm saying like at the time the cultural standard was like men in society are allowed to vote. So when they land, land owning men. Only so in 1789 when they when they when they got up to constitution, it was only double check me. I'm a lot of positive. You had to be a landowner. There was criteria.

Nick's never wrong. There was this is my life. There's more criteria on top of that too. But what was that criteria to vote when the country was founded? Because it was not just white men. Like it wasn't just like a racial thing. You had to be. land-owning American citizen. I didn't know that. That's why I love the internet. We can just double check. That's it.

That's why that's what DC's got like a whole timeline of when it was, but we're just trying to go to 17. I just want like a nice list. It's obviously like there were other things, as I said, that they were totally behind on. But just like in general of what was how society viewed it. I don't know, the every man at the time. which excluded people. Here we go.

All right, so 1789, white male, virtually universal restriction. So that would, okay. So age 21 or older, property ownership or taxpaying status. Most states required owning land to vote. A few states allowed taxpayers without property to vote instead of

or an additional lander. So you're correct. Several states also impose religious tests, which required voters to be Protestant or Christian. A few excluded Catholics or Jews. from voting or holding the office outright. Free status, enslaved people could not vote. And then it doesn't say women on here, but women couldn't vote either at the time. Residency, typically some minimum period living in the state or country.

That's interesting. So they did have restrictions on it. So at some point, this changes and we get to where everyone can vote. So that kind of takes away my dream scenario. Now it's illegal to fucking ask for an ID to vote in California. You don't mean you have to be an American citizen. That's fucking absurd. It's like, I mean, if you just gave me, you got to be an American citizen and you have to, like, I would like it if you were actually a tax paying member of society.

Yeah. I just want to know that you're paying into the system. Okay. And like, I'm willing to give exemptions for people that are genuinely like actually disabled and can't work a job. Like, sure. And what about search protector lady? What if she was paying tax? You know what?

I'll take it. If she is, if you were giving me that like, bro, she works a job and she's a productive member of society. She's just a fucking moron. I'll fucking take it. It's better than the standards we have now. Do I want some higher standards than that in my dream scenario? Sure.

But I'll take any standards you fucking give me at this point because right now there are none. Right. The no ID thing is crazy. I have never heard a coherent argument for why someone should not. Because there isn't one. There isn't one for why someone shouldn't present ID to prove that they're not. our fucking citizen of the country or resident of the state and area. Just to verify your address that you're at the right poll.

Or just to verify you only voted once. Yeah. I mean, what the fuck is stopping me from like, I really want this mayor to win and there's 15 precincts to vote in? I'm going to go to every fucking precinct and vote because they don't know who the fuck I am. Yeah. I do remember and I wish I could remember the detail right now. So I don't want to say it and get it wrong.

But when I voted, I'm remembering like the big one when I went into the, the 2024 cycle, which was the presidential cycle, I remember something happened when I checked in and then got to the ballot box. And I was like, I didn't have to do anything. Maybe it was something like I didn't even have to show my ID or something, something like that. But I was, I remember going in and I'm like, this feels kind of like the third grade class president one. Like they didn't even check what grade I meant. You know what I mean? I showed up in it for a recent election for my congressman and I had my voter registration card, my ID and they're like, you don't need any of And I was like, don't like that.

Don't like that answer at all. Dick, but like, it shouldn't be easier to open up a fucking Gmail or easier to vote than it is to open up a Gmail. Or to do anything on the internet. Yeah. I can't get shit on the internet without at least giving them my name and my email address. I agree with that. Like, give me anything to prove your one person. Yeah, more of the reason.

So I'm absolutely on the same page with like barriers to entry, like you said with that. But like whenever like the retarer. lady in the store. Whenever I hear that, it's like it's what I'm, what I'm getting at is it's a subjective thing. So you could be technically the way a slippery slope tyranny could start is you'd be like, I think that guy's stupid so he can't vote. And then the next the next guy down below is less stupid and less stupid, but they keep using the precedent. That's why I asked that question the way I did. But like if there's like some requirements like, oh, I don't know, you're paying taxes into the system like you're a functional member of society. That's probably fair. Yeah. Maybe a general

intelligence test. I mean, you do have to take a version of I think it's called the Minnesota multi something inventory. I can't remember what it's called now, but even when you get a hunter safety license, you have to take like a test to make sure that you're not psychotic.

And it's like, you see two deer in a parking lot. Do you A, not shoot them, B, hit them with a car, C, all the above. Like, it's questions like that. And by the way, there were people when I got it at 15 that fail. They didn't even make it to the shooting portion, but there's like a general thing.

We could ask questions like, do you think the moon is made of cheese? A, yes, B, maybe, C, ribs. Like, there has to be like a general knowledge thing that can be applied to like most. I mean, it's applied to everything else in life. So why can it be applied to voting? Because it's probably the most important thing. That is a good point because the military has got it pretty dialed in with the Asvab. You go in, you take a test for the military and the military says you are qualified to do these jobs. You are smart enough to be able to learn these skills and perform these tasks. Why can't we do that with, I mean, we do that with all kinds of shit. You take it when you, we do the as well, I want more age restrictions. I'm so sick of the age bullshit arguments.

More age restrictions. Like, well, like we said over there, you had to be 21 to vote. And I, I don't even like the age restriction part. Like, I just want some criteria to be. Matt and whether that's like military service automatically you're allowed to start fucking voting. Like I was signed up for the military before I was allowed to vote or drink. Yeah. Like if you're in the military, you should be allowed to vote. I think if you don't want to go in the military and you still want to be able to vote, absolutely.

I think you should have to pay X amount of taxes on a delay. If you're making a million dollars at 20 years old and you're paying a shit on it, absolutely you should be able to vote. If you're making minimum wage or whatever, like you'll get there in three, four, years to be able to vote. Have some kind of like you're invested in society. You have a track record of performance and being a productive member of society. I'll tell you one thing that is an interesting idea that I've thought about before. You know, when they get, when did they even come up with 18? Defe, can we look that up? It's been a while. Like, you know, what if you had it to

wear, like if I go to rent a car, you got to be 25 years old. And part of that is, I mean, there's literal science about brain development, but also it's like this is someone who's now had hypothetically on the average, if they went to college, standard college, like they have at least three years, like out in the real world to understand consequences of life and things like that. I think someone should probably have spent three years in the real world to be able to know, like, oh, that's how my billing works. Oh, that's how accounting works. Oh, that's how people like, you know what I mean? Like, you don't, I didn't know anything when I was 18 years old. And they're like, you can go vote now. That's what I want. I just want criteria that we can

fucking look at because I'm sick of the age arguments where it's like, I think a 16 year old should be allowed to vote because it's their future too. But also when that same 16 year old commits a fucking crime and somebody winds up dead, oh, he's just a kid. He can't be held responsible for his actions. If he can't be held responsible for his actions, why are we allowing him to dictate what direction all of fucking society goes? Agree. Like, it's bullshit. Either you're an adult or you're not. I want a solid criteria. I'll on when you're a fucking adult and you get to be treated that way. Period.

And I even hear the stupid argument on the internet like, well, we should actually, their brain isn't fully developed like you said until they're 25 or 26. So they should be treated like a kid. Fuck you. I was 25. If I got pissed off and like did some illegal shit, I absolutely should have been thrown in prison at 25. I knew better.

I hate that. I just want people to be like, you're an adult. actions have consequences. There's benefits to being an adult. There's downsides. You get them all. You can't fucking pick and choose 24-7. It drives me fucking nuts.

Yeah, by the way, Dief pulled it up. It was 1971 where Amendment 26th of the Constitution lowered the voting age to 18 years. But again, also like somewhere along the way in society and fuck if I know where it was, like is probably a slow dissent. There were basic civility standards that just slowly went away. you know, to where people could get away with more things or society, I don't know, accepted more behaviors it wouldn't have in the past. And like when I look at something like 1971 or an age where it gets lower to 18, that's, you know, that's a different kind of 18 year old than it is today. You know, there's just some realities that that 18 year old understands that today's 18 year old doesn't have, today's 23 year old doesn't have a fucking clue about. Yeah, because your grandparents were in the depression.

Right. And like you have perspective. I mean, that's really what's lacking as a whole was like, I think we should mandate some form of civil service. I don't know what that looks like. I don't think it should be military for everyone. That's a hard stop. But I think if we gave everyone out of high school like a year or two years, whatever, work at a nonprofit. You know, do whatever you want to do.

Just do something and learn more about the work. world, then the world you live in, it'll help to shape everything about the rest of your life in a positive way. And like, you'll actually have some sort of investment in your future. And you're like, I've actually like experienced different things as opposed to like, because K through 12, you don't really have any real life experiences that you can pull from unless like your life's hard or you have different things like that. That's like personal. But like, I don't know because like, my time in the military really helped to shape me as a person. I had a horrible childhood growing up. but like it also exposed me things I never thought possible.

Like and not that everyone should join the military, but it also got me to college for free. It also changed the course of my life. I got two degrees out of it. Like, think about just a culture shock of going to basic training. Yeah, going to basic training at 18 years old,

you show up spent my, you know, I moved around a lot. I'm a bad example. But like hypothetically, I grew up in Iowa my entire life in small town Iowa, surrounded by corn. Okay?

Like everybody was into the same thing. And now I'm going to basic training with a 33 year old that just got a divorce, had a midlife crisis, divorced his wife. He's in one bunk next to me. The other bunk next to me is a 20 year old kid from Chicago who, you know, had a completely different upbringing than I did. I'm going to become friends with both these people from completely different walks of life. And there's 50 other people in the platoon that all have extremely other different walks of life. I'm going to have to learn how to work together with these people, be a team, care about them. And at the end of the day, realize that we're all Americans and we got to fucking work together.

That's crazy impactful being 18 years old and then getting to live the rest of your life understanding that. And a lot of these kids are just like, oh, I graduated from high school. What college are you going to? We should all go to college together. And you live in this fucking bubble the entire time. Even when they don't, though, to your point, Zach, it's like if there's some level of civil service you're doing, whatever it is. Yeah. You're working for something that is in some way like an action.

cause or something bigger than you that helps build like a cultural bond. It's not to say college isn't fun and you don't meet people from different walks of life because I mean I did and I think that's great. But like you know, you're going there. You're doing your classes yourself and then you're going out there and you're party and having a good time. It's not like a higher calling in that way nor is it supposed to be. But if you said like, hey, for like a year out of college, everyone is required to do something that at least gives them some perspective on life. Yeah, I think that would be worth its weight in gold. Yeah, you go to somewhere where they have like rolling brownouts, not even blackouts,

just rolling brownouts where electricity is not common. Most parts of Europe don't have air conditioning. You go to other countries that you've heard about, but then you go there and you're like, holy shit, this is crazy. Like, those are the things that help to shape you as a person. I mean, like, I grew up in Memphis and, you know, prior to the military, people from the Northeast were like in movies. Like, I'd never met people from New York.

And it's like cliche. It's my friend's like, hey, my name's Tony, Tony, you know? Like, it's all like the most, you know, hey, I'm from Cape Cod, from on Cape or off Cape or Yenzes from Pennsylvania. Like, I'd never met people like that. I'd just seen them. And I was like, wow, this is wild. Like I'd never, but like, they don't pump their own gas.

They don't pump their own gas, those cowards. But like Nick's right. Like you never, outside of that, that's the only time you'd ever meet people. I mean, now people do like more often because of like, remote work and things like that. But like, you learn cultural things. And there's just little differences that you learn about people. And like, unless you're like trying to break that, you're not going to do it.

I think it's actually popular in either Europe or Australia. I can't remember where. But they do a sabbatical where they're like, hey, you got to go. They send you out like after after. See Amish. It's Rum Springer. Rum Spring. I mean, even they're doing it.

But like they go out for a year and they just travel the world or they do something. Like, I mean, think about how awesome it would be. Like if you're like, hey, just go to Australia or whatever. You got to work with this nonprofit. they help, you know, make sure people don't kill all the kangaroos or something. I don't know. Just making stuff up. But how else would you get there any other way?

I would be okay actually putting my tax dollars towards something like that. Like if you're like, hey, this is like, I'd say Social Security, but like some sort of stipend that'll go is like, as long as you're doing this, we're going to give you X amount of dollars. It's enough to live on. And you can go on this thing because it will help to make you a better informed member of society. Because that's the biggest problem, people who are in the military as opposed to outside

the military is like you get exposed to a lot of different things. And you see the world a whole lot differently. I suppose people aren't who are just like hearing about it. And like everyone's like, oh, the government's like doing this and stuff. Like, yeah,

they're all obviously doing things. But as someone who's also in the government, everyone's also pretty fucking dumb. Like it's not like, let's not give the government too much credit. Yeah. That's smart. Yeah.

Everyone's like, oh, there's like one guy. No. No, dude, there's not. Like,

there's not that many people that are like that sharp or smart. I mean, oh, it's like SEAL Team. Even them. They're full of morons. like they can just hold their breath for a long time so they get movie deals. How long were you in the military when you were there?

Four years. Was it something you always wanted to do or? Oh, dude, I was made for it. I'm a child. Yeah, I'm a child of trauma. Poor white trash. There was nothing. Nothing.

Then my family knew other than like how to break the cycle of poverty other than like do a trade, be a mechanic, which is fine. Nothing wrong with that. My father did it. His father did it. His father before him. you know, the first bell was probably looking at Mr. Ford being like, I think there might be something here, Mr. Henry. You know what I mean? Like, we were made to turn wrenches. But I also saw my father and my stepfather and my grandfather,

I would always see them in the morning rubbing their hands because you can only turn a wrench for so long. Right. You can only do things. And every morning they would like warm up and do these like stretches and stuff. And then they'd light a cigarette and head out to the car. So what's tough about growing up in poverty, nobody really talks about is you don't have an example of like how to get outside of it. Like there's no like, you know, Uncle Mike did this and now he, you know, he has a mortgage and he has a house and he goes on vacation once a year. Like there's no, there's nothing. You know, it's just my grandmother telling me to start a side business, which is code for still Frion and sell it on the side or, you know, scrap copper when nobody's looking, things like that.

I miss Frion. I do too. I miss the cold stuff that was punching. holes to the ozone. I mean, that's, I mean, we were so poor. I remember when we got a car with the air condition and I was like, technology is the fucking best. Like literally, I remember seeing it frost the vents. And I don't care what it did to the ozone. This other stuff is nothing compared to it. I'm so, I did. What was it? It was, I think it was 134A. I need to do a video on this. Maybe because like the new ones. I could be wrong. It doesn't matter. It's because the fucking patents run out. That's why. And so someone has to make a new formula? Yes. So they just spit in a cup in

the end. I got a new AC in my house and I'm like homies with the guy that did it for me. And he's like, I'm warning you right now. This is not going to be as cold as your last unit. And I'm like, why it's newer. It should be getting colder as time goes on. Like this is we. What do you mean? Technology has improved. Why is my AC getting shittier? And he's like the new chemical, the free on replacement, the refrigerant basically, they came out with, you know, new environmental regulations. We got to use this new stuff. It's not as efficient. So then I go and I look into it. And it's Like conveniently, every, when they make these new formulas, they have a patent period where one company owns it. They're allowed to make all the fucking money from this refrigerant.

And conveniently, as soon as that patent fucking expires, that, you know, oh, there's a new environmental thing. This is actually bad for the environment. But we have this new one that's better for the environment. Now you have to use this one. Sign that shit into law. As luck would have it. We have a new formula. Isn't that something?

Every fucking time. I hate them. But yeah, no, I watch. live leak when I was little, well, when I should have been watching it. Nine-11 happened when I was in eighth grade. You remember where you were? Yeah, my mother called me and said, you need to stay home, because I was going to walk to the school bus stop. And so it's like eight o'clock our time. So it's nine o'clock New York time. And so I was like, what's happening? She's like, something's bad happening, turn on the TV. And I literally grabbed my brother. I was like, we're not going to school.

And like, he at first didn't believe me. And he was, like, scared that I was going to get us in trouble for skipping. I was like, no mom said to stay home. And so I turned on the TV and right when I did was when the second plane at the second tower. I was saying, you're old enough to, in eighth grade, you're old enough to grasp that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And my cousin joined the Marines about four years before I did.

He's four years older than me. And he went to Iraq twice. And then I was like watching stuff on Live League. Like, there's like dudes like with M-203. like launching grenades, and like, click, click, boom. And, like, I was, like, locked in on the family computer

that took forever to, like, load and dial up. And I'm just, like, waiting. I'm like, show me the war, show me the war. And then, you know, I went into the recruiter's office and I was like, I want to be in the infantry and they're like, you can do whatever you want. And I was like, I don't want to do that. And they're like, well, this is kind of like that.

And I'm like, I'm not doing kind of. You know, I'm not going to roll the dice on maybe. And the Marine Corps at that time had, like, you would pick a field. You pick the infantry field. then you get a job when you go to your MOS school. And I wanted to be 0-3-11 infantry riflemen. And that's what I picked.

Why'd you want to be that? I wanted to go on an adventure. I didn't want to risk not having that opportunity. Fuck you. Tell the story. I wanted to kill you. No, tell the story of the speeches when they brought in the riflemen. I mean, well, that was infantry in general.

But yeah. So, okay, so you go to the school of infantry. And so what happens is combat MOSs go to like one side of the camp, non-combat MOSs, go to, to the other side. They do 21 days in the field. They do a bunch of hikes. They get exposed. Like, they sit behind a 240. They shoot a few rounds. They get up and they go to another thing. 21 days in the field consecutively, honestly sucks. But that's their only, it's like drinking water from a fire hose. Like, they're exposed and they go off to whatever school camp they're doing.

Well, all of the infantry guys are brought in in this auditorium. And there's multiple MOSs that are pitched at you. And they start, they come out and these instructors, you get to pick, like, which one you want to do, and based on your scores and other factors, they match you to whatever. On July 16th, the Hawk lands on Netflix. From the mind of Will Ferrell. Oh, Mama, I'm back. Come in a new original series. Get ready, get ready.

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You're like rocket. She's like blowing shit up. You want to be a man. Be an assaultman. And everybody's like, ugh. You're like, it's just a bunch of dudes. You know? And then the next guy comes up.

Hey, I'm Sergeant So-and-so. I'm a Mortiman. You want to drop steel rain on top of the enemy. You want to play some cards. You want to do some spades. Be an 0-341. like, right, right, right, right. And it's like going on. And then there's this guy who comes out looks like a fucking fullback. And he's like, my name's Sergeant So-and-So. I'm a machine gunner.

You want to put rounds on the target from a click away. You want to fucking carry big guns. You pick 0-331 today. Boom. And everybody's like, oh. And never, never forget this one guy, I fucking wish I could know his name. He comes out and he takes his can a dip and fucking puts a dip in. He goes, my name's Sergeant So-and-so. You want to be in charge of these fucking idiots? Pick 0-3-11. And so I wrote down 0311 three times and I turned it in. And they're like, yeah, you're an idiot. We were obviously going to pick you.

Oh, my God. And so then that was it. That was it. That was it. Went off to my unit. They had just got back from Mermotti. It was like being dropped off in a prison complex. What years is this?

Like, 05? This is 07. So I went in February 07. I got there July. I didn't know that. You got in right when they got back from Ramadi. Brother. bro, you're the fresh meat in a prison at that point.

So it sucks. So you get picked up from receiving. You gather all your gear, an obnoxious amount of gear that you put in a sleeping bag. And you're dragging it across the lawn and they're cat calling you and throwing shit at you. Hey, fuck you, boot. That's the lowest level of term to be called in the military because you're fresh out of boot camp. You haven't deployed. You get called a boot.

It's our version of like the worst word ever. And so they're throwing stuff at you. You have to run past them. Like the first two weeks, I basically just got tortured. Like digging fighting holes and filling them back up, running past doors, plotting points on a map underneath the gas map with a gas mask going underneath the poncho and a shower. Like all sorts of crazy shit. Some of my best friends. But like nothing that was like ever derogatory or degrading.

It was just like. No elephant walk or anything like that. Oh, you know. Oh, yeah. I heard about that one. Oh, you heard about the pickles and all that stuff? Yeah. I don't know about pickles.

I've heard about the elephant walk. Yeah. No, nothing like that. Because like, honestly, you're, the reality is you can't push people too far. You're all depending on each other in a worst case scenario. Right. So you don't know if that kid's going to, like, remember the time that you fucking made him run naked somewhere and somebody saw him or whatever it was. And, um, and these were like hard dudes. They had done multiple rack appointments. And, um, I just kind of like fell in. And I was like, I'm going to treat this like a job. Treat it like a job. And we did a workup. And one of my first appointment to Garms are. Afghanistan in the March of 2008. What was that like? I've heard so many stories in here from so many different guys across many different units who talk about in particularly Afghanistan starting in like 0708 all the way to like 2015 and how fucking crazy it was.

Yes. What was it like when you got there? So when we got there, I left a few days after my first daughter was born. basically a week from the time she was born until I got there and I thought I was going to land on like dune like I thought it was just going to be like rockets going off everywhere

and I land the first thing I can see is a fucking Burger King so I go to eat at Burger King shout out Dick Cheney friend of the show What a flax Thanks Thank you sir

I don't think you're dead But I don't think he's dead No dude He think he's a lot Why would he stop giving up hearts that he was harvesting every few years like all of a sudden he's going to collapse.

There's no way. I'm pretty sure he reached in his heart problem. I'm the president of Dick Cheney hate clubs, so I'm not arguing with any of it. But he's the Halberd. I hope that motherfucker was dead. Dude, he's like Tony Stark. He just took a new battery out and put one in. You know what I'm saying?

Me and him had to go to the George Bush Center or some shit. They did not like us cracking Dick Cheney jokes every 30 seconds. When did you go to the George Bush? A month ago or something? Yeah, we got invited. I thought W and fucking Dick Cheney weren't on the best turns when he died. All right knows I didn't like our jokes. But yeah, it was funny.

It was just me and Nick making like Dick Cheney Bush jokes the entire time. Other people were there, but it was literally just me and him passing the mic back and forth. But that was like my first meal. And there's an acclimatization period. And that was in Candahar, Airfield, which in the early 2000s, there was nothing. By that time, there was a ton of stuff. Toby Keith came out to visit. us, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's a cool story. But we're waiting and then like, hey, the mission

launch, we're going to go out, secure this area, and you're going to stay there for seven to 10 days. That's what they told us. And my unit had a, for some reason, they did a drug test before we deployed. Now, I'm not condoning or endorsing the use of drugs. Going to war, dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, you ask me no questions. I'll tell you no lies. So when they did the drug tests across the entire battalion. There was over 30 people that popped because it was snowing. In Camp Lejeune at that time.

I mean, it was... Yeah, brother. It was wild. And so they ended up reorganizing the entire battalion, which is highly unusual. So I was in this platoon called third platoon. I think I moved to a second platoon. And I went from basically being in like

the worst platoon with like a platoon sergeant who was relieved of command in boot camp because, as he said, I get too excited. That's how he always said. He's like, I get really hands on. And like, he was known for that. And so...

I can mean a lot of things. Yeah, it means what you think it means. I mean, for them to fire a drill instructor in the early 2000s is pretty rough. But we went out there, engaged the enemy. That deployment, we, I mean, we literally had every asset in the world, direct assets, air, and direct fire, mortars. And, like, we were, like, on top of the battle space the entire time. The living conditions were nightmarish.

Because you were just outside an entire time, like doing posts for four to six hours at a time, doing a patrol, and just kept doing that back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And it was dangerous and it was hard. I didn't call home for 90 days. There was a lot of that stuff. But that deployment overall, like in the grand scheme of things, was like a good deployment for like getting your feet wet. Now, when we did the invasion of Marja in 2010, completely different scenario. What was so different about that? So in that point in 2010, Marja was where there was a ton of dope.

And so that was where the Taliban were getting a lot of their money. And we were trying to interdict that movement. Very famously, Geraldo Rivera went around that area and was like, these Marines are guarding the poppies. And that was actually not far from where I was. And that was in December of 2010. But we left in late 2009. And my wife was pregnant with our second child then.

Because they had told us during the workup, you guys are going to be shutting down bases in Iraq. And I was like, great. It's going to be maybe a 90-day deployment. We'll come home. So we started planning our second child. And then they switched it to Afghanistan and like a real... Yeah. It was when President Obama went to West Point.

They told us like hours beforehand, hey, there's going to be a troop search in Afghanistan, and that's you. And so that deployment was highly documented. It's very famous. there's a speech I fuck it can we can you can play it yeah

it's um gunny Walgerin speech it's on my uh YouTube veteran with a sign so this guy gunny Walgarin

it's like my mentor in the infantry um I'd known him the whole time and he was known for giving these speeches and the whole day

prior to us leaving there was a fuck ton of speeches like to a point to where my junior Marines were like yo are we gonna be okay I was like I don't know

because this has never happened before they're talking to us a lot. Like, it was, it was gnarly. Yeah, there it is. This is fucking great. So I'm, I'm here. You can't really tell, but like, I'm across the other side of the field. This is back in the 280P days. Yeah. Well, it was secret, but this is perfect. All right. Let's see. We got to be done with this.

Where's coming back camera at? Marine, you're done. Camera's fault. See in that. No, negative. Negative. I agree with one thing that's been said. It is about how good you look. These camis make my butt look fucking awesome. I see a whole bunch of dew rags. That motivates the shit out of me. Fucking professional. Why professionals?

Is that what we're called? I think y'all are some crazy goddamn motherfuckers. Not one speech. Now, we've been talking about this. I'm kind of upset about the general speech. I'm kind of upset about the High Commander's speech. I haven't got any fucking goosebumps yet. Have you all been motivated about this?

Oh! I know y'all figured out another secret that the Marine Corps had. We don't tell you shit And we play games And I knew we were leaving Tonight Fucking seven months ago I didn't tell you all

Because we want you to get fucking pissed off You might be envisioning us When you kill the enemy But motherfucker fucker you're gonna be pissed Martian Fuck that What do y'all want to hear? You all want to hear the white sleet? Fuck yeah

I'm not doing the fucking white sleet We got to fucking step across this parade neck and it's goddamn cold. I'm not doing that shit. Don't says, I don't like you. We'll watch. Y'all know John Glenn speech. All right, we'll do that. We'll do that really quick.

Huh? Is he ripping a bow? Dude, he can't tell him. He would only smoke cowboy killers and rep, that's really little bit. John Glenn? What the fuck would you do if somebody changed a little bit up in my world? Right there. Yeah.

It's literally right there. Is he from South Jersey? I can't tell where he's from. He's very, very secretive. I'm detecting in either Delco or South Jersey accent. I can tell you that he's everything that you want a Marine to be. He spent his entire life in the infantry. He was a fucking badass.

He would show up in the company parking lot and a Porsche. Like everyone else would drive like sedans or normal stuff. He'd show up. Bell, what the fuck are you doing? And like, literally, and I'm like, I don't know, Gunny. He's like, see my. Porsche? I've got a few of them. And like, so what he did his entire career is he actually bought land. I don't want to be too specific, but basically all around North Carolina in the coast and

he turned him into rental properties. Oh, wow. So he's always had a bag. And like he just loved the Marine Corps. And he loved being a Marine. That's a fucking amazing. And like that was, I mean, like absolute dog trash. You know, no one wants to hear from a fucking general, a colonel, whatever. Like, from there, we then walked to the flight line because it wasn't built yet. With all of our gear and then the mission launched. How many of those guys didn't make it back? I don't, I'll have to get the exact number, but we lost a lot. We lost a lot.

And that's what always strikes me with something like that because you're talking about this is a speech given before a mission that he knew was going to be serious. And he knows when he's standing there that some of the kids, you know, getting pumped up and laughing along with his jokes and stuff and in a somber tone. It's like, they're not all going to make it back. And I can never, I always imagine. and what that must feel like for a guy like him who's been there, done that and knows the cost, but still has to, like, get everyone ready to fucking go.

There's something really, really heavy about that, but also it takes, like, a special person to be able to pull that off. Well, what was unique about him is he put, so in the Marine Corps, the way it works is you have an E8, who's like a first sergeant in the infantry, and, well, master sergeant, whatever. And E8, and this is your job to do, like, administrative things, right? So he was the company gunnery sergeant. So it's his job to oversee like operations and logistics, but he's the most senior tactical advisor. So he's talking to the platoon commanders, which are lieutenants who just graduated college. They've never deployed anywhere.

And it's his job to shape them and also keep their platoon counterparts, staff and COs accountable. But he's the subject matter expert for a company, which is for platoons, all things warfare. Like it's his job to know it front to back. And he was just a fucking G, is a fucking G to this day. like he convinced the battalion that he needed um about five vehicles for a logistics log train he didn't need that he just he made him wanted he made a mobile QRF and so he'd be like oh yeah we're delivering water and you just hear like a machine gun going up he's like you know angry six angry six inbound he's just like laying down rounds he's like oh yeah we drop in chowls too like

because that's how he would do it and um i mean i don't know that that deployment from start to front was gnarly. What did you guys do right after that? We're straight to the flight line. Land in the middle of a field. There were some AA guns that went off, shot some of the helicopters, not ours, thank God. We had A-Pob.

Do you know what an A-pop is? It is made to clear a minefield. So it's a rocket with a bunch of grenades attached to the side of it on strings. And you shoot it and it should have a meter of clearance. You know, unless one of the grenades flies up and then, you know, that's in God's hands. It happens all the time, though. And we were like going into clear pathways so that the rest of the units could come in and basically just take over this town. And then we would break it up in different areas of operation and just try and interdict and stop Taliban movement throughout the area.

I cut off the supply line to their heroin. And how long were you out there? 210 days the entire time. So like a month, it's basically like a two or three weeks on the front end and then like a week or two in the back. But you're out there consecutively the entire time. Did it feel like we were winning at that point? The first appointment did. You know, we definitely affected change.

I mean, I remember on my first tour, we went to this schoolhouse that, like, someone had built. I don't remember some NGO. And there was blood on the walls. And the blood was from the Taliban beheading children that went to the school. And then they would use their blood to write, like, don't go there. And the whole time we were there, we were able to change that. um we were able to change that into where children were able to go back to school and actually like have a place to stay where they were safe and so that was stuff that i saw first hand on my first tour the second tour um you know i don't know when he what does when he look like uh we made the area we were in safer i will say that um you know but like i was never like malicious towards the locals like i didn't i wasn't i wasn't like why don't you believe in me like i know we're coming to going. You know, they're just trying to bet on the horse that'll take them the farthest,

you know? And when you got the Taliban coming through, hanging up people by change, dragging them through the streets, cutting people's heads off, lighting families on fire. Like, the most horrible shit. Like a lot of it's, not to downplay it, it's theatrical, but it's a show of force through violence to get them to submit. And, you know, they don't grow poppy because they want to. They do because Taliban's like, you're growing poppy. well I don't want to we're going to kill your entire family okay I'll grow poppy like it's it's not you know and you add in other effects to like the mams which are their religious leaders in a place that has a dangerously low literacy rate of below 25% no one knows how to read no one knows

below 25 yeah oh I didn't know it's that low yeah it's it's I mean that was like last data I don't know what it is now with the Taliban taking over um but so the religious leaders oftentimes the moms are bought off by the Taliban and they're like oh blow those Americans up. That's, you know, because you're told to listen to them and you're told that that's the only person that will, you know, tell you what to do and what's right or wrong. And, you know, we lost Marines in my platoon, in my company. You know, it was, it was gnarly. It was absolutely gnarly. And I was about halfway through it through that second appointment. We ended up having to do a reorganization of my platoon. So I went from being a first team leader to a squad leader.

So I meant I went from having like three guys to 12 and I had teams and I had people that reported to me. And that usually happens when you're six to eight years in the Marine Corps, not when you're on your third or fourth year. And so when that change happened, I just saw the way things were going and I kind of had this vision of my future of the next 20 years. And I was like, I left after my first daughter was born. I haven't met my second child yet. I don't know if I want to do this for the rest of my life. And I'd accomplished all my goals. How would you say you accomplished all your goals?

I wanted to be a squad leader. I wanted to be a squad leader. I wanted to be a team leader. And I did it in four years. There's only one other person I know that's done it. And there's a friend of mine who actually sells insurance now. Shout out Clayton Blunt. But...

Clayton Blunt. What a name. Yeah, yeah. Hard name. It's a hard name. But like, it was just me and him that it accomplished that. And, you know, it's, I mean, the military, what's cool about it is like you can go as far as you want. But for what I wanted to do, it was going to cost me everything. I wanted to operate.

I wanted to do the work. And so since I had moved from a private to a PFC to a Lance Corporal to a Corporal, ended up picking Sergeant in July. I got off Factor Duty in 11th. I picked it up like five months later. Usually takes at least six years to do that. I had all the things. So when that happens to stay operational to keep doing the work,

you either got to move over to a sniper platoon. Maybe he'll do some time there, maybe two to two years, maybe four years. Or you go to like Marsock. At that time, Marsok actually wasn't even stood up yet. It was still called MSAB. That was actually when Cody Alfred and all those guys were standing up, Marsok.

Yeah, yeah. So you can maybe get four years there, but if you get promoted again, you got to be an admin guy now. You can't do the work anymore. And I'm like, I don't want to do logistics. I want to do this. I want to do the work. And so, and the cost was going to be so high on my family.

I was just, I wasn't going to do it. You have kids now, too. It's like, and you don't get to see them. Are you worried about? Ever. I'll lose my marriage. I'll lose my family. So nothing of the risk to life, obviously, when you're out on the battlefield.

Yeah. No, and I have an incredible wife. she's she would do things that uh really kind of like really made me fall in love with her a lot more um she would send me packages about every week and the whenever we would have time to talk she would actually ask me if there are people who didn't have mail and then she would send them a package and sadly it's a lot higher than you would think like family's just like fuck it it's yeah and it's not even that big like she would just be like what she would send me tobacco,

Q-tips, baby wipes, junk food. And People Magazine, actually. People Magazine. Dude, the fucking ground's

exploding. I want to hear about Kim Kardashian's ass. Like, I don't want to hear anything. Oh my God.

Kanye. Like, it's just like, whatever. And like, literally some of, some of the hardest motherfuckers,

like I had this one guy who was in Kosovo. I remember him looking to me being like, hey, let me get that people after you belt. Like,

it was just like, five seconds, away from reality. And she would send stuff like that. You know, she's put up with a lot then and now. And like was, has always kind of been this rock of like, you know, someone that I knew I could lean on. But I mean, I've noticed it's the first moment I met her. What did you mean her?

Oh, when I meet her? Where? Okay. I met her at her cousin's house on. Okay. So her cousin, Luke and I were friends for a long time. I was a bad kid and he, uh, I was a bad kid. And, um, I was kind of like crashing at their house now and then.

And, uh, his dad was turning 50 and he was getting ready to go to Iraq in the army for his first appointment. So I picked him up from the airport, took him to this party and there was this big surprise party. No one knew he was coming. This is like before Facebook and shit where everyone was like, you know. The good old days. American soul, you know, like playing stuff. It was just like, cool.

And so we did that. And then I, you know. Luke, God love him, couldn't talk to a girl to save his life. And I have disproportionate game to who I am as a person. Like, it's obnoxious, but, like, I have really tight game. All it is is confidence that doesn't make sense. And- You're sitting next to Mariano Rivera over here.

Yeah? Oh, look at him, dude. Look at him. I see you. Pop off. God forbid. He's different. God forbid, yeah.

No. But I looked across the room and there was this girl I'd never seen before. and I had to introduce Luke to girls. I even had like a roster showing up for me. Hey, a soldier's showing up. A hero come through. Hitting them on the next tail push to talk, I think it was. I swear to God, I think it was.

I had fun was so big. It was birth control by itself. But I went up to Luke and I was like, who's that? And he goes, that's my cousin Christy. She lives in Nashville. And I go, you got a cousin Christy that lives in Nashville? He's like, yeah. And I go, we have never talked about cousin Christy.

that lives in Nashville, dude. I've done so much for you as a friend. Where has this been? He goes, you weren't ready. Oh, he hit you with the week. You weren't ready. And I go, yeah, you're probably right. I tell you what, though.

I'm going to marry that girl. And I went over there. And I hit some solid line drives. You're not going for a grand slam. I'm just trying to get on base. Get a number. Follow through. She couldn't even care less.

She didn't know I existed. But at the end of the night, got the digits. Two weeks later we were dating. A year later, we were married. had her first child. How did you know that you wanted to marry her right away? All I can think to say is from the first second I saw

or I felt something I'd never felt before or since, and I just wanted to do everything I could to be the best version of myself for her and for me. That's awesome. It was like a bit by something. And I don't know how to describe it. And everyone finds it whenever it's your time to find it. But I was just like, if she asked me to give her a mountain,

I would give her to. It was just, Thunderbolt. I just, yeah, I was just like, it just hit me. And we're coming up on 19 years of marriage now. That's all.

And through deployments and everything, too. Deployments, you know, me being a veteran. Hanging out with me. Hanging out with Nick. Nick's fine.

Yeah. Over the place. Well, that's, well, that's been a change because it used to be, what are you doing to now, like,

you get out there and you podcast your ass off. You know, she slaps me on the ass. it was like it used to be like i could hear her on the phone be like i don't know i think he's talking to someone there's a fat day laborer in our house i don't know you know a donut dude zacks telling people about that time somebody fucked her donkey again but it's paying the bills yeah yeah it's all right though things are okay you know i understand her concerns because it is coloring outside the lines but it's just it's she has allowed me to be the best version of

myself and challenge me to be better, which is ultimately what you want, in my opinion, as a partner. You don't want a girl who's like, ah, whatever. You want someone who's like, what do you do it? What the fuck? Someone that makes you the best version of yourself. Yeah, that's what true love is. I've never heard it describe better than in the Godfather, though, where they tell them

you've been hit by the Thunderbolt. And that's what that sounds like right there. You just can't explain it. You don't know why, but that's it. No, I was just like, oh, I don't know. Cousin Christy. Yeah. Wife, Christy.

Yeah, that's the one. That was the one. and it's funny too because everyone, I shouldn't say it's funny because it sounds like I'm, you know, celebrating people's failures. But everyone who was like, don't get married, don't do it, blah, blah, blah. None of them are married now. Or if they are, they're remarried. And also in their defense, in my defense, she didn't have a stage name.

She wasn't like most Marines marry strippers now. Because of my age, it would be only fans girls. So why go to the strip club when you can do it on base, I guess? but I mean most military marriages so like we kind of break that statistic but most of them shouldn't be married in the first place most of them are contract marriages and you know it's not the best thing category to win in but I don't know I love her worked out for you oh yeah awesome yeah how many kids do you have two that's awesome that's awesome two girls yeah how long you've been married eight or nine years I don't know we've been together since we're 16 that's awesome so high school

sweethearts yeah we didn't get married until we were 25 though you had to try her out out for a long time. I mean, no, I mean, for me, it was like, uh, I mean, she was getting fucking frustrated. I hadn't proposed yet, but it was also very much like I was, uh, I was in the camp of like, like, I'm not going to go to your dad and ask to marry his daughter when I'm a fucking 22 year old kid that doesn't have a shit figured out yet. Like by the time I felt comfortable enough to do that, I had already like owned a house. I had a mortgage. I had a full time job. Like I had my shit together and I could actually take on that responsibility. So that's kind of why I made her wait.

That's very mature to think of that at that young age. I grew up poor as shit. I'm not fucking around. Good for you, same. Yeah, you're kind of, you strike me as a fucking just do it kind of guy.

Yeah. Can I hit the, oh yeah, yeah, let's take a break. Sure. Yeah, I got it right back.

I'm full of everything. What's this fighting preacher video you were talking about? Oh, that's the last video I did. Who's the fighting preacher? Logan West. A.k.a. the fighting preacher. Probably like all of them.

All of World War II, Korea and Vietnam. Oh, he did a world tour, if you will. Yeah. What's the story? Dude grew up, super poor, log cabin up in Michigan, Pennsylvania, bounced around a lot. Gets, he's like in his early 20s, 22, I think. Great Depression's going on.

He's got a job working in a coal mine. Single guy. one of his best friends, his hunting buddy's got like a wife and kids, can't find a job. So he goes to his boss and he's like, hey, can we get this guy a job?

He's like, no, I'm struggling to keep you guys employed. So he's like, all right, well, give this guy my job. He's a good dude.

I'll give him my job so he can pay for his wife and kids. Next day, fucking claps at this coal mine. His buddy survives, but a bunch of his other friends die. And he goes, gets a job, fucking being a logger,

like a lumberjjj. deck working again that coal mining collapse happens and then he does the same thing again gives his logging job to his buddy so he can pay for his wife and kids a couple weeks later logging accident wipes out the crew friends die so he's like super depressed beat up about it feels like death is chasing him wherever he goes decides he's going to take his own life grabs a pistol puts to his head pulls a trigger click doesn't go off. And like when he pulled the trigger, he heard somebody say wait, gun doesn't go off.

He looks around. Nobody's there. And then he goes out and he like can't believe whatever happened. He's immediately. And I've heard like other accounts of this like when something that event does get stopped. People are immediately like thankful have a whole new lease on life. Like they realize they didn't want to do it. He has that moment.

And then he goes out outside of his house in this log cabin in the woods with the same gun that he just tried to fire, pull the trigger fires into a stump it goes off so he becomes convinced that you know god gave him a second chance uh dedicates himself to god goes to bible school he wants to be a preacher goes off the bible school for a couple of years he's a junior trying to get his degree in theology so he can become a preacher he gets drafted for world war two this is pre pearl harbor but the draft is going on leading up to pearl harbor like amer the american government government knows we're going to war. They just,

there hasn't been the catalyst yet. So they are already drafting people. He gets drafted, goes off to training. He shows up. This is 1940, 40, early,

1941, one of the two. And so he shows up to training. And he grew up in a log cabin in the fucking woods, dude. He doesn't know anything about the military. There's no TV shows. There's no books he's read.

Like he doesn't know anything. He gets off the bus and they're like, all right, if you want to be infantry, go over there. You want to be artillery. Go over there. You want to be a medic.

Go over there. You want to be this. go over there. He doesn't know what any of these fucking words mean. So he's like, I don't fucking infantry, I guess. I don't know. This sounds easy. So he fucking walks over to the infantry line becomes an infantryman. Then gets out of training. He's kind of on camp Shelby and Mississippi. Pearl Harbor gets attacked. And they just like, they don't know what the fuck is going on. So they station him out on the Mississippi River. And he's just like camping on the Mississippi River in case the Japanese fucking invade or something or if they get attacked.

He's out there for a couple months. They bring him back in. They ship his ass over in World War II. Pacific or? He ends up going to the Pacific. So cut through a bunch of bullshit. He winds up. He winds up becoming an officer. He's a lieutenant.

He's in charge of a platoon. And he's told they're about to invade some island in the Pacific. And he is told you're the first guy to hit the fucking beach. Is this midway? No. No. It's Guadalcanal. Oh, yeah.

So he's told you're going to be the first one to hit the fucking beach. Jesus. Like fucking he's got the moment like the gets in the Higgins boat fucking rolling up. The door drops down. He's the first one off the Higgins boat. Falls immediately neck deep in water. Just like takes a wind out of his fucking sails, you know, like cool guy moment gone. They get up on the beach.

He's expecting enemy gunfire. There's nothing going on. He's like, what the fuck? He gets all his guys up on the beach. There's just dead Japanese dudes everywhere. Supplies thrown all over the fucking place. Like, what the fuck is going on? Apparently the Marines had already been there for like,

fucking six months. The island was already wiped out. Like Guadal Canal was already taken. And the funny part is if you go back and watch the Pacific, you see this moment in the show. Like the army guys are rolling up after the fact. And like they're all nervous. Like they're racking their guns. They're getting ready to go.

Like the army guys were told where they were going to be the first ones there. And then they get there. The Marines are like, what took you guys so long? Start raiding all their shit. So that doesn't happen. He hops into the next campaign in this island called New Georgia also brutal jungle warfare. It's basically Guadalcanal 2.0. Goes out with his battalion. His battalion gets cut off and surrounded for, I believe,

29 days, completely cut off, surrounded. He goes from like 180 to 119, loses a ton of weight. A lot of his guys get fucked up. They make it out. He goes back, regains some weight. They take a bunch of the other guys that are healthy enough again, go back out on another mission, gets caught, surrounded again. This time it's for 21 days. And the whole time this is going on, he's like functioning as a pseudo chaplain because they don't have a chaplain out there. He's like being the preacher. He's like counseling guys. He's an officer. He's helping him out. So he picks up the nickname preacher, the fighting preacher. And he's just like trying to help these guys get them through it. He's also an officer. He's leading his men. But the second time around, they get surrounded like they know the game. They've done this before. And somewhere along the line the first time they figured out the Japanese all have like sacks of rice for. their rations. So now as soon as they're killing Japanese guys are sneaking out at night, they're grabbing all the rice.

This time they've got some native guides. The guides are showing them all the tips and tricks. Like, oh, we can mix this bark from this tree. It makes it taste better. And we can eat these plants. And these guys are like doing master chef while the Japanese are like launching attacks. They just couldn't give a fuck less. They'd already been through so much.

And ultimately, they start running low on ammo. And the battalion commander's like, all right, you're the most experienced, you know, patrol officer we got take one of these guides probe around their line see if you can find a way to get us out of here so he takes this native guide by the name of beady and they go out probe in the enemy line and they walk right into an ambush enemy machine gun fire lights him up and uh they run take off they dive into the swamp they're hiding in the swamp they lose them he gets out of the swamp they start wiping all the mud off they get all the mud off the native guide beady and beatie's like he's he's good he's good to go he didn't get hit. They start wiping the mud off Logan. He's got a bullet hole in his helmet. Didn't hit his head.

Went around the helmet. Loss velocity. He's got another bullet hole in the heel of his boot. Didn't hit his foot. He's got another bullet hole. He's got two more bullet holes like in his clothing. All the bullets missed him. And his wrist watch got shot off his wrist and grazed him. God. But he's fine. That's God. So Beattie. Beattie. Beady, the native to this island in the Pacific, sees this and he's like, wow, your God must be really powerful. And he's like, yeah, man. Yeah, he's pretty cool. He's like, can I, can I worship this God?

Yeah. He's like, sure. Yeah, you just, you know, accept Jesus is your Lord and Savior. And, you know, you can be Christian too, blah, blah, blah. And they say a little prayer together. And okay, cool. That was great. Let's get back.

Let's get back to the guys now. And Beattie, from his perspective, now is under the impression that he is immune to bullets. So he starts dancing. and singing and making a bunch of fucking noise. And Logan's like, shut the fuck up. But, you know,

he thinks he's fucking invincible. Now what's he got to be scared of? So he gets through that situation. They make it back. He gets the guys out of the line. Continues to fight. I'm abbreviating. And there's like an hour and 20 minute long video.

It's a good abbreviation. Yeah. So he, he fights through the rest of World War II and then goes back home, finishes his theological degree, becomes a preacher for a couple of years and he had signed up for the reserves while he was doing that well then they called him back a couple years later and they're like yeah we need you to go on um occupation duty you can either go to

europe or japan you can pick which one you want he picks japan because he wanted to see what was up now because he just got done fighting the japanese and uh well there were two bombs that went off yeah you know yeah we'll see if they're still holding a grudge and he uh so he chooses to go over there but before he leaves he requests that he becomes a chaplain now. That's kind of what he wants to do. He wants to be a military chaplain. He's got the degree for it now. And they tell him,

uh, you're too old. He's 31. You got to be 30 or younger. To be a chaplain, I would think it's the opposite. Apparently. That's what he gets told.

So he's like, well, fuck it. I guess I'm infantry. So he shows up to Japan. He's got a wife and kids back home at this point. They're living in a trailer outside of like Fort Benning, I think. So he shows up to Japan.

He's there for a little while. And then he gets up to Japan. He gets a fucking notification one day. The North Koreans are attacking the South Koreans. Pack your shit. We got to go up there. He gets told it shouldn't take longer than a week. So he leaves all his personal shit in Japan, heads up to North, South Korea, technically,

because this is the point where they had pushed the South Koreans all the way down to the very, very end of the peninsula, called the Pusan perimeter, where they held out. So he shows up at the Pusan perimeter. They're like, all right, take this platoon, go stand out at this fucking gate. And, you know, if there's an attack, repel it. So he's out there with this platoon that he just picked up, a bunch of North Koreans come rolling up with three T-34 tanks. And the T-34 tanks punched through their machine gun positions. They just drive right through it. And they get behind his position.

He's up on a hill. So he radios back. He needs an anti-tank crew to come up here. He gets this anti-tank crew. They show up with the bazooka. He's got his guys up on the hill repelling the infantry. And he's got these tanks behind him. He takes the anti-tank crew.

And he goes out, they run through these rice patties, they sneak up on these tanks. They hit all three tanks, but they just take out the tracks to immobilize them. And before they're able to actually knock the tanks out completely, the, uh, one of the tanks hits their position, kills all the guys in the anti-tank crew. And he's the only one left. So he fucking starts firing rifle grenades at it and everything else. And he gets up on top. There's two tanks that are still operational, both.

on the ends with one in the middle that's completely knocked out. And he's like, I'm getting fucking shot at. There's nowhere safe to be right now. So he's like, the safest place I can be is on top of the tank. So he gets up on top of the first tank and they fucking open the hatch, drops a grenade, and fucking closes the hatch, takes them out. The other tank guys start trying to climb out of their tank, shoots all those guys, knocks out three tanks.

And in the video, I pull up like the old newspaper articles. They've got drawings of like the fighting. preacher knocks out commie tanks, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, from the era. And from here, they fucking pull him. He goes on a couple missions. They're still preserving the Pusan perimeter at this point, just trying to keep a foothold on the peninsula. And he's basically put in an area that's deemed safe because his guys have already

kind of like been through some shit. That's how it starts. And they're chilling out there. And he's, you know, everybody's just hanging out basically camping, but they got their guns. and off in the distance, he's like checking everything on binos. They're up on a hill.

It's North Korea. He can see fucking 20 miles out. He sees a formation of guys coming towards them. As they get closer, he's like, those are fucking North Koreans. So he sends a runner back to the headquarters tent away, a ways back.

And he's like, tell him I got North Koreans coming. Runner makes it back. He's like, Commander says they're not North Koreans. Well, they're constantly getting closer. He's like, tell them I can see their uniforms. They're carrying Japanese. rifles. I know what a Japanese rifle looks like. I fought in World War II. That's what the

North Koreans are carrying. Tell them they're North Koreans. Get some more guys up here. Sends a runner back. Runner comes back. They're not North Koreans. They're South Koreans. This is a safe area. And this conversation goes back and forth playing fucking phone with the commander until the fucking North Koreans are at the hill and open it, open fire. So he starts defending himself, winds up getting shot at the beginning of the firefight, gets all his men set up. They're fighting. They're fighting. He gets shot through the thigh. He's losing a bunch of blood. So he runs back to this like aid station, gets tourniquet put on, then goes back up with his guys, keeps fighting, takes out an enemy machine gun position that they were trying to get set up to wipe out his guys.

Leads a counterattack and then gets shot, I believe, three more times. He gets shot through the arm. He gets shot in the chest. And ultimately ends up stopping this attack before he gets medevacked. Um, he had a platoon, so like 30 guys and they stopped an attack of 700 men and killed over 400. He was personally credited with 27 of the kills, six with bayonet, one with a trench knife. Um, so he's, he's so fucked up. They got to fly him to Japan to a hospital to go through surgery.

And at the time, the standard operating procedure was if you're in the hospital for 60 days, they send your ass back home. day 59 he gets orders to go back out oh my god so he goes back out and by this point he basically shows up and that's when they make the amphibious landing in chan and they start pushing the north greens all the way back up the perimeter is this before or after general macarthur was fired like what point in the war he isn't fired yet this is what gets him fired oh it got him so macarthur has the amphibious landing at enchan he's supposed to you know push up the peninsula take out the North Koreans. As they're approaching the Chinese border,

MacArthur is ordered to stop short of the Chinese border because we don't want the Chinese getting involved. Like we're not common for them. It's communist nations. They're going to think that we're trying to eradicate communism. That's why we're there. So he's ordered to, you know, stall short of that. But he decides to push forward anyways.

He pushes the forces all the way up to the Yalu River, which is basically the border of China. And that's where they start getting attacked, all the allied forces, they bring in hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers. They basically have to do fighting retreats all the way back down to the peninsula. It gets pushed back down below the 38th parallel again. And then they fight their way back up and it gets stalled out at this 38th parallel. So he fights all the way up the peninsula all the way out the hospital.

Yeah. All the way up the peninsula, all the way back down the peninsula. And then during when they're fighting back down, they get pushed back down past Seoul for a minute. And there's another town right outside of Seoul. I remember Sue on. I think it's called outside of Sue on by this point he's been promoted. He's no longer leading a platoon. He's leading a battalion.

And he's kind of the role that you were talking about with the Marine where it's like he's the guy that knows everything war. And he's telling the platoon elements what to do in this battalion. And the platoons that he's working closest with is, uh, echo company. And echo company gets fucking attacked by these guys up on a hill. And echo company is led by this crazy lieutenant. that also fought in World War II named Louis Millett. And Louis Millett has, the dude likes combat,

and he has heard that the communists are talking shit, saying the Americans are scared to bayonet fight. So he decides, show those boys. He decides that he is going to lead the last bayonet charge in American military history and take the hill. And he got to oversee that as well. And then after.

That's so fucking cool. At any point was he like, thinking about, you know, because he's like a big Christian guy owes his life to God and everything. He's just out here full-blown Ben stiller in it and fucking, that's what I'm picturing him on top of the tank like Ben stiller in Tropic Thunder. I mean, I skip the Merrill's Marauders part. It gets worse. All right.

Well, let's keep going. All right. Sorry. Rewind World War II. New Georgia. So he gets done in the Pacific. After he gets done with that New Georgia campaign, he gets a letter. So this is back in World War II.

Sorry. he gets two letters. They're backdated 14 months. One letter's from mom and dad. One's from his fiancee. First letter, mom and dad are getting divorced. Second letter, fiancee is leaving him. Oh, Jesus.

Then they come around and they're like, we're taking volunteers for a dangerous mission for guys that have extensive jungle warfare training. And he's like, don't have anything else to go home to. Fuck it. Why not? So they're, all right, get on the boat. Okay, so he gets on the boat.

They're taking him to all these different islands. he winds up in Australia. He's like, where the fuck are we going? Next thing he knows. He's the weirdest Japanese ever. Yeah. Remember, dude grew up in a log cabin in Michigan. Like, next thing he knows, he's in fucking India.

Like, what the fuck is going on? Culture shot. Yeah. They start training for more jungle warfare in India. And then he figures out, like, oh, here's the mission. We got 3,000 guys, including you. We're going to walk from India into Burma, into the jungles of Burma. And you're going to go fight the chival of Burma.

Chinese while they're in Burma, full on guerrilla warfare tactics. Your whole mission prevent the Japanese from taking out China. China's basically cut off. We need to establish a foothold in Burma so we can establish the Burma road to get supplies to the Chinese so they can defend against the Japanese because if China falls, Japan and the Nazis are going to have a direct like highway between them and that's going to be awful for the war effort. So we're going to send you 3,000 guys into the jungle.

Just go fuck up the Japanese as much as possible. 3,000 guys to stop the connection of the entire Eastern world. Now, the problem is they can't get supplies into China, right? So how are you going to get supplies to 3,000 guys that are trying to fight a war? Air drop them? That's all they do. They live in the jungle for seven months straight while they're getting air drop supplies, conducting guerrilla warfare operations against the Japanese.

3,000 guys against how many would you say? I don't know. Whatever the fuck the empire Japan had. And they were just in there wreaking havoc the entire fucking time. get into like the different major battles they had. But, uh, that this unit's called Merrill's Marauders. General Merrill was a guy in charge. And this would later go on to become the 75th Ranger regiment. So this is like the predecessor to the 75th Rangers. So these guys were functionally special forces at the time. And he was selected because of his experience inside of the dangerous mission.

They asked for volunteers for another more dangerous mission inside the dangerous mission. Nobody volunteers. So he gets volunteered. You're the guy. He is. the platoon leader for the I and R platoon for the whole element. I and R's intelligence and reconnaissance. So he's a scout platoon. So he's like 30 miles ahead of the rest of this element in the jungle. In the jungle moving forward. He's the eyes and ears.

Is that where they came up with long range? That's LERP. Long range reconnaissance control. That's Vietnam. But yeah, this is basically where this all stems from and starts. Was he at the middle of that one too? What? Coming up with LERP in Vietnam.

Oh, yeah. Is that where this is going? He was the guy that invented that there too. He didn't, he didn't coin it. But I mean, he pioneered the shit, right? So while they're in, he's in Merrill's Marauders. Fuck, lost my train of thought. My bad.

So he was going ahead 30 miles. Oh, so he's ahead like 30 miles. So and there, this is such a historic military unit. And they did so much shit while they were there. I had to like stop reading his books and doing research on him. And I had to go and read a book just on Merrill. Marrall's Marauders. Okay.

And Merrill's Marauders has a book. It's about this is about 3,000 dudes. This is all talking about here's this entire element moving through and here's what happened. Like they're not really talking about individuals. And he's just a platoon leader. Like he's not a big, he's not important. He's not a general.

He's not a colonel. He's not an officer. He's not in charge of shit. He's in charge of 30 guys. In this book, he's named 14 times. And on multiple occasions, his platoon saved the entire. element of 3,000 guys. The official historian for Merrill's Marauders equated one of his actions to the Battle of Thermopyla

and goes on to explain, King Leonidas fought on his own soil. This guy fought on enemy soil in the jungle. King Leonidas lost all his men. This guy didn't lose a single guy. Do we have tape of this guy talking, like being interviewed? He doesn't even have a fucking Wikipedia page. It's fucking crazy. Did you hear about him from that book?

Is that how you found out about him? I got an email saying you should look into this guy and then I looked into it. And every, anytime I get an email like that, I just Google it. I was like, there's no Wikipedia for this guy. What the fuck?

But the nickname the fighting preacher was so compelling that I just kept fucking digging deeper. He wrote memoirs later in his life, but they've been out of print forever. I finally tracked down a copy of his book and then like went back, pull all the stuff I could find from like national archives, his award citations and everything. And like cross verified everything. And it's like,

everything he says he did in his book he fucking did and then he's in i'm just doing math in my head he was 31 when he went to korea in 1950 or 51 so by the time vietnam's popping off he's in his mid 40s so yeah so then he finishes up with merrill's marauders world war two ends he goes does the korean stuff gets pushed down the peninsula overseas overseas the last bayonet charge after that he gets shipped home from here he decides he's just going to finish out his career in the military. He's already been in long enough. Yeah. So he goes, he basically helps rewrite the book on jungle warfare. He's working at the Pentagon for a while. And then he gets, uh, he's like, I hate this. I hate paper pushing stuff. I want to go back. So he goes out to brag and he's like, I think he's

44 at the time. And he's like, I'm sick of having to walk everywhere. Because Merrill's Marauders walked. He is, his platoon scouted over 1,250 miles at jungle. My kind of guy. So he's like, I'm I'm tired of walking everywhere. I want to jump out of planes. So at 44, he becomes a paratrooper. And then they're like, hey, you want to become a green beret? He's like, sure. So then he becomes a fucking green beret in his mid-40s.

Oh, my God. And then Vietnam pops off. And he doesn't talk much about what he did in Vietnam, but he was sent over to Laos as a green beret to be a technical advisor to the lay oceans on how to combat communism, which. you ever heard of mac v sog i have heard of that remind me though yeah so mac v sog was the green berets that were basically operating in louse in cambodia waging a shadow war against the vietnam

the entire time like the most dangerous fucking combat you could imagine super insane attrition rate like i'm assuming he was doing that but i can't verify it but he was over there for um he was over there for his first 12 months And then they're like, okay, you can go back home now or you can extend for 36 months and we'll fly your family over here and they can live here too. So he flies his family over.

He stays there for like the additional 36 months. And it's like, you know, you're bringing your family to a war zone. Like what? Your videos are top? What do you do to make, what do you do to make it up to your daughters and your wife when you bring them to, you know, Vietnam during a war? Like, how do you make a kid happy? You buy him a pony, right? You get him a dog.

They're in Southeast Asia. So he gets him a monkey. Oh my God. Spunky the monkey. Spunky the monkey because that's what this story needed. And yeah, ends up finishes out it finishes out his career in Vietnam, brings his family and the monkey back home, keeps the monkey forever. And then goes on to become, I forget the title, but basically the campus religious leader for Texas A&M for 13 years. After all that, still the chaplain. Still the chaplain. Oh my God. This is him. Logan Weston. Medal of Honor, Silver Star,

U.S. military, man of God, and bad ass motherfucker. Can you pull up my Instagram? There's a picture of him with all of his medals. So he got given the Distinguished Service Cross. He was supposed to get the Medal of Honor for repelling that attack of 700. But the commander that kept arguing back and forth with him

basically made sure he didn't get the, uh, that post. No, next one over. No, other one. Sorry. Right. There you go. That's all of his medals. The fucking shadow box.

It's as tall as he is. He's got over 200 awards and commendations. When did this guy pass away? He lived to be like 86, I think. So maybe like 20 years ago. Yeah. That's an insane stack. What got you into telling these stories?

They're so compelling. I mean, you do so many of them across military history. I started doing, you know, I mean, the whole YouTuber thing, like, I didn't do it on purpose. It was an accident. I told you I made a video about a grocery store and I got 12 million views. And then I was like, oh, well, I guess I should keep doing it. So then I made like a couple more videos. And then, you know, I'm just looking for any ideas to like crack jokes and be funny.

So I made a video about how the Marine Corps is the craziest branch of the military. It's not even a branch of the military. It's a cult. And I did a little quick three minute video of all the little crazy shit they do. And people loved it. And they were like, oh, now do army infantry. Now do army mortars. So then I started doing these little three minute videos on jobs.

And then that kind of turned into like five minute videos on equipment. And then one day I just like covered one dude one dude's war memoirs and people loved it. I didn't think people would want like a 40 minute video, but it performed great. And then I just I kept doing it. And I mean, over time, I mean, obviously you look for more purpose for doing something other than I enjoy getting views and likes and clicks. And I think the purpose is just kind of turned into, you know, we don't celebrate war heroes anymore. Like we used to have war heroes in World War II.

Like you'd earn the Medal of Honor. You'd come home. You'd go on a war bonds tour. People knew who you are. You were a celebrity. We celebrated brave men for doing incredible things and being selfless. And we did it a little bit in Korea. And then we kind of quit after Vietnam.

I mean, the fact that, you know, Baselon, World War II. He's from Jersey. Like, you know what I mean? But like there's no GWAT guys that have notoriety like that. There's nobody from Desert Storm. There's nobody in any of the wars that we like celebrate and hold up of like, this is the example. of what you should and could be.

And, you know, I think it's extremely impactful, especially for kids growing up, having war heroes to look at and be like, I want to be like that guy. Fuck yeah, dude. No, you're making an amazing point. I forget who I had in here recently, but this came up and I couldn't agree more.

It's like, I don't have any problem. Like, I think it's great when, you know, there's a great athlete or stuff like that and you look up to him or you really like Daniel Day Lewis is an actor and you look up to them. That's awesome. But like in society, I think like people, who make the ultimate sacrifice and understand how the world works because they go over and

see the things that we're lucky enough to not have to see here because there's guys like them doing that. I mean, you're telling me that story from a guy from three generations ago, across two generations doing wars. I feel like I was fucking there. Like, people should know, what was his name? Logan Weston. Logan Weston. Yeah, people who should know that name. Like, that's, I completely agree, man. You know, it would be a great thing to look up to in society. And everybody wonders why like, oh, none of these kids take pride. and being an American. Half these kids think America's bad or evil or whatever.

And it's like, yeah, because you've never heard any stories of anything. Like, you know what I mean? Like America has so many heroes that have done so much incredible shit and nobody teaches you that. Yep. Yeah, some of the, some of the, I saw you guys did this too. I really admired that. But you guys had in a World War II veteran on unsubscribe.

Really cool. He just passed away, right? We had a couple in a couple summers ago. one of them left like one of his purple heart like i guess mementos here is really cool but you know you're sitting there and you're like these guys are a hundred years old and they were just thrown into a situation when they're 18 19 20 and they had to figure it the fuck out and i'm just i don't know it's a strange feeling that you understand but it's like the gratitude you feel that people were able to do that and pull that off no questions asked is pretty fucking immense yeah and i mean

I don't know. The cool part for me is like, I mean, I get tons of emails, tons of comments. But like some of the emails I get are crazy to me. Like I've had I've had wives reach out to me and say that she started watching these videos with her husband. And she, her husband served 15 years in the Marine Corps. And she's like, I understand my husband better. Wow. After watching your videos.

Wow. Or my favorite ones are, hey, my dad served in the military for a long time. He's passed away now, but he never talked about it. He fought in Vietnam or Korea or World War II. And the unit that you talked about that this guy was in, that was my dad's unit. I had no idea. I learned so much about my dad. I had no idea what a badass my dad was.

Thank you. That's cool. It's cool being able to show somebody like, oh, you know, to you, dad was just the guy mowing the lawn and new balances, but your dad was a fucking badass at one point. And they went their whole lives never knowing that. And now they do. That's really cool to me. That's really special.

And I think, you know, you talk about how we stopped doing it as a society like propping these guys up and everything. But like the U.S. military to me never stopped having amazing people in it or amazing talent and being badasses and stuff like that. We quit caring because of money. What do you mean? I mean the U.S. government switched over to fractional reserve banking and they could just print more money to fund wars and they didn't need to anymore.

The reason the U.S. government was promoting these people was, to bring them back to sell war bonds because they needed money to go fight the fucking war. And as soon as they said, oh, what? We can just print more now. Fuck promoting these guys. Who cares? I don't need. But you know what I mean?

But that also before fractional reserve banking and they could just have an infinite money printer. If you wanted to go fight a war, it had to be a reasonably popular fucking endeavor because you had to sell war bonds to fund the motherfucker. Right? Like how many people would have bought war bonds for Afghanistan? guessing not a lot. Iraq, maybe.

Iraq, most because of 9-11, but like... Iraq, they would have printed them. I mean, they were doing freedom fries and all that shit. Yeah, like Iraq, they would have sold a bunch, but Afghanistan they wouldn't. So, like, I think that fucked up all the society. It has a ton of downsides because, you know, at least you had the population backing the war. Yeah. And now we fought a lot of wars over the years that usually just through, like, over time and not really having a plan.

eventually like we have to leave and we lose or whatever. But what I always say with that is it's not it's not because of the guys were there that aren't capable. It's because a bunch of people in suits in DC who now have infinite money to fucking vote and print print money for wars. It's like, you know, they make bad decisions and they play war games that they don't have the balls to go out there themselves and handle. They're not allowed to win. They're not allowed to win. The Marine Corps could steamroll any country in the Middle East in fucking a week if they wanted to. Like I had an apprentice that had actually served 20 years in the army and he came in, got out of the military. He was my apprentice for a while.

Great guy. And he would tell me stories about how like he was, remembers being in a Humvee on a 50 Cal and they start taking enemy fire. He's got a fucking 50 Cal and somebody with an AK-47s shooting at him from up on the hill. What do you think he did? Had to radio in to ask permission of fireback? No. He had to tell somebody in the Humvee, hand me. my M4 because he wasn't allowed to return fire with the 50 Cal because it wasn't fair.

Fuck that shit. Blow the fucking hill up. Who fucking cares? Yeah. I didn't do that. Shoot first, apologize later. This is also why you don't know about Norman Schwarzkoff because they probably

fucking hated him because he won too quick. Yeah. That's a what? He won too quick. Oh, the guy did the first goal for it. Yeah. Like I, my deployments were in this weird space.

Iraq, as it was coming to an end as they were getting ready to shut down bases, was much more urban and everything else. In Afghanistan, when I was there was literally the Wild West. Not long after I left, they started having, you know, drones in the air, these things called G-Boss towers that could see you. And they give their interpretations of interactions and things like that. Like we had a bigger gap. And like it, I also want to say like I actually found the exact number of guys that we lost on my deployment to margin. It was 10 guys that we lost. And I don't, I don't, the only reason I don't say their names is because it's not my place.

I don't know who all will hear this. I don't know where this will be where there will be when this finds them. And I don't want to say anything that, you know, cause any type of thing. But, you know, it's just, I just took a moment to reflect on it. You know, we lost a lot of guys. And because of that, so many other people had to step up to, and that included my friend Wendell, Archer, and Wilson, other guys who were put in these situations you can't imagine.

And I constantly think about it now because my children at the age to where, you know, I was. And I've thought for a long time, like, you know, did we win? What it looked like? Who did I fight for? I could have solved Afghanistan in five minutes. That's what I always say. How would you have solved Afghanistan? I would have, so there's only one place in the world where you can actually grow and sell pharmaceutical grade poppy, and that is New Zealand.

The other place is Afghanistan. It's part of the Golden Triangle. Right. So what I would have done is I would have paid pennies on the dollar more than the Taliban was to basically cut off their funding resource and take that over and then harvest that and then harvest that and provide a legitimate economy for the people because they weren't doing it because they wanted to. They were doing it because of the threat of death. and then that would have forced a towel then out cut all their funding operations done. And built the economy? Built the economy, yeah.

Like it's not that complicated. Now, does that get, you know, the people at home thinking about this like, well, poppy can be turned into heroin and a whole lot of shit. Can that get bastardized in a way that it turns into like grounds you over for a black market? Like it did. That's what it is now. And that's what it was. But like you could also wean them off of that.

Like if the long term goal is not have that, obviously you can change that. But if you're paying pennies on the dollar more than a war for 20 years, like, I remember, like, we were doing a buyback program and we would, like, go up to them. And this is, like, literally what I was ordered to do. They were like, go up and offer them basically 75 cents on the dollar. And I was like, I'm not doing that. I have a question. What is winning then? Everybody that says America has never, hasn't won a war since World War II or whatever, blah, blah, blah.

Like, what is, like, I don't know, what was the winning in World War II? What do you mean? Like what did that? What did that look like? I mean, there's two arguments. One, we showed up in their country with guns and they couldn't do shit.

Two, we forced their government to sign a treaty. Yeah. Okay. Well, if the government doesn't fucking exist anymore because we overthrew it entirely or it just never had one, what other options are there for winning other than we showed up,

walked around your country with guns and did whatever the fuck we wanted the entire time we were there until we decided to leave? Right. I think it's a matter of what happens when either we do leave or the shooting stops. Right. So in Afghanistan, to look at a modern day example, it's like there's a badly executed pullout obviously not the fault of the guys there at all. Yeah. And we left all the weapons behind. The guys that were in charge 20 years ago became in charge again. And it's and there are people that felt like, wow, it was just time is a flat circle. Whereas when you finish World War II, you You took out the Japanese emperor.

You took out the Nazi command. You made them start a new government. You have a new problem with an old ally. Then now you have a cold war with afterwards. But like effectively the moment of like the world's fastest growing GDP trying to start a forefront war and take over the world all at once with whatever his fucking ideas were, that was stopped. I would describe that as a win.

For sure. But then the question is like, so the hinging point is like, can we teach this group of people to rebuild a society that can be productive again. What do you do when you can't? That's hard. We shouldn't have ever left Afghanistan. That's it. Yeah, I was going to ask you what How you have stopped? We should have never left. There's a precedent. We didn't leave Germany. We're still there. Right. We didn't leave a bunch of countries around it. Vietnam, Korea, we're still there. Japan. We still have a marine base there.

both of them have become world superpowers Japan and Germany alone in technology, innovation, society because we were there to stop a power vacuum to being created. We should have kept a base in the north, one in Kandahar and then one up in the north, I think around Bogor probably would have been a good spot

off top of my head. I don't really know that area that well. But I mean, Tyler Vargasanders, who was on Sean Ryan, who's a very good friend of ours. Amazing. Amazing. Tough as shit. One of the best people out there. When you hear the way he was hemmed up,

and the way I wasn't like they had ID, they had intelligence, they knew what was going to happen. And they're like, no, no, no, it's not that. And literally as he's, I'm going to steal this from it because I think about it all the time. He said it was like if someone filled this room with sand, that was what it was like, the amount of people that were trying to get through to leave. It's like it was unstoppable. And you see that and you see the impact that it's had on that part of the world where things are, you know, it might look good for the influencers that are paying to fly out there, but it's not a good place to go. You know, I don't care how much the Taliban's cutting you a check for to go roll a blade and down the one road they have. It's not a place you want to be. But we have created another power vacuum in a very dangerous part of the world again. Yeah, it's an interesting argument with the bases and stuff.

and I could see a good argument there. But when they did decide to basically get out and now your post-career veteran watching this who was there and fought battles and lost friends and lost friends after to suicide as well. Double. Over double. Since I left the service 2011, the first suicide was in November of 2011.

And again, I don't want to, I'm not going to name names. It's not my place. And it just continues. to happen since then. What's going through your mind when you watch them pull out in August 2021? I was in a much better place personally, you know, because of a lot of things I'd done, I had started, you know, when I got out in 2011, I realized no one was coming to help us. And so I started working with nonprofits.

I started trying to basically do what I do now, but I wasn't making a living doing it. I was just, I was the only guy who knew how to do the GI Bill. I was only got to know about benefits, nonprofits that will send you to ride horses if you want, or hyperbaric oxygen therapy, or you can put magnets on your head, whatever. I was like doing all of it. And I worked with a nonprofit for about six months. And I started like basically auditing and using anything that I could to make my life better. And I wasn't like this will make me 100% better, but what if I get like 15 to 20%?

You know what I mean? Like what if I can start chunking together, patchworking, a path towards. healing. And, you know, ultimately it's because my wife and my community and the people I was surrounded by that put me in a place to where I was able to not have the impact really be detrimental to me. And about a month later, I went to Mexico and did psychedelics. I believe it was that year. Maybe it was a year. I can't remember. Is it 21 or 22 when I did? And what did you do specifically? The thing that, that everyone talks about now, I did I've again and DMT. But back when you had to lie about it and not tell people.

We had to get medical exemptions on our passport. So all these different things through an organization called vets, which is a life-changing thing for me. And it obviously like it helped you tremendously. Yeah. No, it's one of the single greatest things I've ever done. Was it immediate or was it a gradual improvement afterwards? Immediate.

Immediate. What do you think it was so immediate for you? I mean, so Ibegain is, it's outlawed in America. It's because it's, it has been shown to have 100, percent effectiveness in opioid cessation. It attacks all the addiction centers of the brain. Can't have that. Can't have that. And it basically wipes you clean. And it is not a fun experience. There's a documentary about it on Netflix called In Waves and War. It's the same organization I went through. Basically, it shows you all the good, bad, and all the things you need to see. And for like

eight to ten hours, you're swimming in deep water with weights on and you're blindfolded. And I don't want to go too much into it just because it's very, it takes on time. But like for me, what I kept seeing was a photo of my wife and two daughters. And it was like fuzzy and unclear. And as it got closer to me, like it would become more clear. And as it got closer, these moments of trauma throughout my life would kind of appear like on your camera roll of your phone. I would spend time with it and go back down in the medicine and come back up and purge. they say it's a physical manifestation of trauma that you're purging and I hadn't eaten in 12 hours

and I don't know it came out of me but something came right and wake up the next day you're like trying to stand up and can't because like your brain's like literally brand new and then we took a day and then we did DMT 5 MEO DMT the next day what was that like they call it the god molecule for a reason um it takes you to the eternal whatever people want to call it that's that's where you go and um you know it helped me to put all the like ibegain like gave me the pieces for the puzzle and dm t put them in place and um that's crazy that's that's probably the craziest thing you've ever done was it the kind of thing where when you're forced to i was just thinking this when you were describing the iva game

part where you're forced to kind of see these traumas and live in them during that period is it like it's not just facing them, but then also like having, you get like some self-forgiveness out of it. Like it's in the past. Yeah. I mean, it was a combination of like my life growing up through having, you know, an alcoholic father who's abusive and all the different things that come with that. And then like, you know, all the stuff that made me good as a Marine made me bad as a person, my ability to carry around trauma and compartmentalize it. Just put it away in the rucksack. keep moving, well, eventually it gets heavy and I had been carrying stuff for too long.

And I had not put it where it belonged or spent time with it and understood it or losing my friends or what could I've done to be better? Could I have called this person, texted this person? How did I not know, you know, anything, stuff like that? And so, you know, when I did that, the ceremonies, it was just, it was unlike anything else. I mean, it's why I'm excited that the VA's working with HHS to fast roll it. I mean, we just talked to the secretary of VA about it. They're literally laying out a plan.

It's something I think really needs to happen. What he said about IBE gain was weird to hear. What was that? He had a like, he was kind of explaining it like he was also a chaplain forever. So he was like very much like not bought into the idea, but he was talking to like psychologists and the psychologists were telling him like, I thought it was bullshit at first. Like I've done research. They're like, this is legit.

Yeah. And he had given, you know, this anecdotal example about how some people needed to actually have IB gain done multiple times because they had so many different issues that they had to work through that they didn't even know were like part of the problem. So like one dude would go in and, you know, hypothetically speaking, it wasn't just something that happened in his military service, but it's actually something that like happened in his childhood. And that first session only got him through whatever the issues were in his childhood.

And then he had to do another session to get through the stuff after that. And then it fixed him. So that was interesting to hear. It's, it's interesting to hear him take like a very clinical approach to it in a way where he's like, we can't just throw veterans to the wolves of this. The reality of it is not everyone needs that much. that's kind of like the highest level it's it's bleach right um and there's other there's other psychedelics that have been shown to be just as effective mdMA ketamine um psilocybin things like that

that's what you're supposed to do i skip those steps i don't recommend what i shout out to jared taylor from black rifle coffee he called me like the end of september and was like what are you doing And I was like, I'm mowing my yard. I was literally mowing my yard. And he's like, I'll never forget this. He goes, do you have a passport like a grown man? And I was like, yeah, I have a passport. And he goes, all right, you're going to go to Mexico in a month.

And I was like, how do I take off work? And he goes, you'll be fine. Because I was working with him at the time. He's like, you'll be okay. He's like, I own the company. I was like, yeah, that was a dumb question. I wish I hadn't said that out loud. But he sent me and a bunch of guys down.

And I was there with some dudes who had done psychedelics before. Derek Carver is a good friend of ours. stars. World champion powerlifter has one leg. He looks like the thumb thumb things from Spy Kids minus a digit. So he's just a big fist. And we took the medicine. It's Wade. You're hooked up to an EKG. You have a drug test. You do all these things. You're under care of a doctor and everything. I'll never forget, I look at him and he takes off his leg and he goes, won't be needing this. And I was like, oh, shit, this is about to be gnarly. And it just changed everything. It just changed everything. And so instead of, you know, I'm, I don't want to seem like

I'm stumping or like grifting or shilling, whatever for administration. I don't, I don't like red or blue. I do like Doug Collins a lot because I've seen them take input from the veteran community and be like, you're right, we were wrong. We're like, yeah, we should do that. I've never seen a VA administration do anything like that prior. Like he's like, yeah, you're right. right, we should look into this. I'm partnering with health and human services to figure out how to do this. The end. That's great. As opposed to like, well, we'll see. Because most people, most people take that job as like, whatever, it's like a career. Thank you. You served. Here you go. Run this thing. You didn't quite make it to president. Yeah. You didn't quite make it.

You're in the line of succession. You know, a bunch of people got to go, but you're still up there. but, you know, he's a pastor. He just retired from the, from the military. And like he just wants to help. Like he went from having a really good life in North Georgia to living in a condo in D.C. Not exactly a good trade. Also, didn't realize he was in the line of succession. Kind of threw me off trying to film a podcast for the first time with multiple secret service guys staring at me.

Not laughing at any of my jokes, even though they landed with everyone else in the room. Yeah. I get to the point I was trying to make these guys laugh. Stoneface the entire time. Couldn't be done. That's how I like my secret service agents. Yeah. Nice and serious.

Couldn't be done. No, it was, it was funny. Apparently, we were all inside, but the street was blocked off and everything. Like, one of our friends was like, I'm just going to see my friends. Wait, what? The street was blocked off? Yeah. Trout.

When he came in, he was like, there was just a dozen cars apparently, a half dozen cars outside. So like, well, they're not fucking around, I guess since, no, no, 2024. I mean, there, yeah, no, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, serious and like protect this man at all costs but like it's just um i i i don't know man it's you know PTSD people have a lot of meanings for it they call it PTSD whatever you want to call it i don't care um i think uh when you come to the realization that the memory of who you were before the trauma is better than the reality that you are it's almost impossible not to hate yourself. Because you can remember everything before the thing that happened, whatever it is. A car wreck,

you know, something traumatic happens. You lose someone close to you. You go to whatever it is. It doesn't matter. And that's, that's where that thing comes up. And, you know, for me, I was just carrying it for such a long time. And I was kind of patchworking myself together and trying to help people. And that all led me to the veteran with assigned stuff because I was like, what if I open source this shit? What if what if I call myself warfighter and like I refer to myself in the third person? What if I wear the same thing every day?

What if how would he look? Oh, he would wear this shirt. He would write stuff on cardboard because that's what veterans do. He's a homeless veteran. Okay. What if I partner with companies that will help this? What if I get the word out? What if I talk about how June is men's mental health month?

What if I talk about, you know, this thing or this event, whatever's happening? And if I just keep doing this, maybe, maybe people will find out about stuff. Because everyone's always asking me, Zach, how to do this veteran thing? How do I get my benefits? How do I get counseling? Whatever. Why don't I just lean into that? Right.

And that's literally what I did. Like there's... That was what, like seven, eight years ago? You started? 2020, March. The first one I ever made, it was like the last, before the two weeks. You know, the two weeks, stopped the curve. Yeah, we stopped the curve.

It was two weeks in Iowa, for real. Yeah. So I hear. Yeah, Tennessee, we had, it was a long two weeks. No, it wasn't. So it was like the week before the young lady was cutting my hair at the time. We were trying to like spend money in the local economy. I went to her and I was talking to her about this idea.

And she was like, that's a good idea. And I was like, will you take my photo? And she's like, yeah, sure. And so I went out, went outside the barber shop. She took my photo. And it said, drink water, take motoring, change your socks. And the caption said, COVID remedy. unironically it would have worked it would have worked we're early yeah I was a little early

but that's the most common thing people say to you in the military if you're hurt drink water take motron change your socks right and so I did that and then I just kept making versions of that I was talking about tiger kings you know stuff that was like relatively relevant making like inside jokes about the military and you know for like the first 90 days some people got it some didn't. My wife was like, stop trying to make, you know, your friends laugh, like 10 people laugh. You're embarrassing me. You're embarrassing me. There's always the embarrassing curve, right? There's the, they'll say it now, like, I always believed it. But there's a few text messages you go back. I don't mind being embarrassed. I don't mind being embarrassed in a new car.

But I remember there was this guy who got relieved. His name's Captain Crozier. He was actually here in New York. He had a vessel that responded. when they had the, what do they call, the medical ships. I can't remember what they're called. But there was a bunch of them. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. They were stationed right outside here.

And he was trying to get help from the Navy. And they were actively suppressing his request for assistance. He's like, I've got a ship full of six sailors. We're trying to help with all these medical ships. I need help. And the Navy's like, no, you don't. He's like, no, no, I really need help. Blah, blah, blah.

They ignored every single time. He eventually released it, I believe, the CBS. He then got related to his command. And as he's leaving the ship, which is the equivalent of losing a base, which is a big fucking deal. There's going, Captain Crozier, and the whole deck is shaking. Like, as he's walking off. And I saw this one video. It was on like Barstool Sports and all this stuff.

They're like, Captain Crozier. And like, I'm getting chills even thinking about it. It's a great fucking video. And I saw that and I was like, I don't really do anything political. That's not really political. well, that's just a good leader. And I looked at Christine and I was like, hey, I have an idea. And I like, wrote it down real quick. Got her take my photo. And at that time, I had turned off all notifications on everything. And I was like, I'll just, you know, have a ton of stuff to do.

I'll give this a day. And I waited 24 hours. I got back on my phone. And I refreshed it. And I didn't know this until that moment, but Instagram will only cap out your notifications at 100. I refreshed it. And it was 100, 100, 100. And I was like, like, whoa, that's crazy. I hit it again. Add some zero. Yeah, 100, 100, 100. And I did it again. And every time I did it, it kept doing that.

And then I went to my followers and I was like, oh no, we might have a problem here. Comments are through the roof. Things are going up. And then I was just like, okay, what do I do with this? And I just keep moving forward. Just ran with it. That's awesome. Just ran with it.

And then, you know, eventually you like, you know, you like meet somebody. You DM them and you're like, hey, you do this thing, I do this thing because you don't, that's honestly the hardest part is finding people that do the thing you do. Is that how you guys met? Yeah. We literally, yeah. It's literally like

how much do you charge someone for an ad? Or like, what's a company you should work with? Or is this even a company? Like there's like, there's no one who's like oh, I know this, blah, blah, blah. And so I'd met Donut Operator and Brandon

and then they told me about the podcast they had and it was coming up and they're like oh there's the fat electrician and his videos are being sent to me on the regular like all the time the marine videos are like you should talk to this guy I was like who is this who's this guy yeah it's just and then it's a YouTuber now this YouTuber no it's just a thing where like you become aware of certain people in your space and stuff because you know you are the company you keep you know and um we all started hanging out and then like slowly but surely like I just started to realize like you know all my friends are kind of like you know the verses are different but the chorus is the same you know what I mean yes and like we just started

hanging out like one by one by one and I had a podcast where I was interviewing people on my page called after action I mean they had hung out several times we'd done a bunch of you know unsub adventures different things and he came in town and we just started talking for like four some odd hours. I don't know. We ordered tacos, like halfway through it. Yeah, yeah. Tacos gets to people going. Yeah. It was me, him and Blas, who's also part of, uh, underwhelming. And then he's like, that's probably the best one we've ever done. It was just, it was just good. Like, we just really hung out. And then like, like, we both thought about it. And then it's like, do you want to keep doing this? And he's like, yeah. And he's like, well, let's start a podcast. And he's like, what do you

want to name it? And I was at his house. And I was just like, underwhelming. I was like, so you're taking on another, I mean, that's amazing. Oh, he's, he's fine. He takes on 20 to 40 projects. I have a lot of projects. Yeah, yeah. Good for you, man. And then we just, you know, we just kept going.

It's, it's fun. You know, it's like old dad, new dad or newer dad. It's just kind of like us navigating life and trying to figure things out. And it's just, it's just fun. Well, I think it's two things. I think, A, obviously, it's, you know, you scratch in the edge of like things that you're familiar with, the world you know and the, you know, and there's a lot of other people from those worlds

who are looking for, you know, something they can relate to. But then be like, you guys are like so representative of like the every man out there. You think and say the things that people think and say. And they're like, ah, that guy speaks from me. That's really, like that's the vibe I always got from like unsubscribe watching that from afar. Like it's, like you said, it's guys hanging out and everything.

But there's like an element of just like, this is just like me and my boys hanging out too. Yeah. It's really fucking cool. For military people always say unsubscribes like the smoke pit. The smoke pit. Right?

Like it's where everyone gets around, rips a butt and it's like, what the fuck was that about? You know? But, you know, because it's just boys hanging out. And, you know, they all have like Elaine,

Nick's history, Brandon's guns, Cody's cops. Right. Eli's streaming and everything. And so it's just like, I don't know. And then it's kind of like

wish version Avengers when you look at it because like they like made this universe and somehow like I wound up a part of it. Like in, you know, Like the hawk guy. The hawk guy. You're famous for the donkey story.

I am famous for the donkey story. Yeah, what's the donkey story? I can tell it. Oh, no. Let's tell it real quick. It's not quick, though. Well, let's go then. We got time.

All right. All right. So first off, the first time I told this story, I've been talking shit to Nick for like a year. We're at Shot Show one year. And Nick's like, when you're going to come on? This is my Nick voice. When are you on, come on unsubscribe. I'm like, I've got the single best story.

I'm only going to tell it to you and Joe Rogan. And you're like, okay. And he's kind of. He's so, and he's like, don't tell me now. And like, this is also like at 2 o'clock in the morning in the Venetian. Like, we're hammered. Oh, you're on Vegas. Dude, it was shot shows.

So we're like, I got a sorry. I don't want to drool. But like, we're exhausted. There's people everywhere. It's sweaty. It's a whole thing. All right. So when my first appointment in town called Garmsor, right?

And we'd inserted and we were trying to establish like an area of operations. We're moving through like buildings. And the buildings over there are like courtyard style. So like your kitchen is an individual building and your bedroom is individual building and so forth and so on. So like we finally found like one good spot. We're set up and I'm doing post. And like for anyone who doesn't know post is you're just looking out a whole rethinking your life. And being like, holy shit, I really wanted to be funny in high school.

Like what am I doing here? Like you're just sitting there and we're all, all the Marines are in this one building because the rest of them are like either blown up or we had blown them up or they had blown them up. We only had like one good structure. So there's like 30 guys in there, like laying on top of each other trying to keep warm. And I'm looking out a hole. My friend, Zachary Group's looking out another hole. We're both on 240s down this main thoroughfare, like right in front of us. Crossover fields of fire.

Intersecting fields of fire. We're ready. Machine guns. And like we're saying like dumb shit. You're just trying to stay awake. You ever, you hit that spot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

You're like, yeah, dude, when I get, it sounds like old timing, like when I get back to the world, you know, things will be different. and I'll see my gal. Like, you're just like, it's not like that. Dude when I get back, I'm going to get so drug. I can't wait. I'm going to eat like fried chicken or whatever. You're just saying like, I'm going to start a business. I'm going to do this.

He's saying stuff. And, you know, we had told the people not to move around at night. We're trying to stop movement of the Taliban, all these different things. And we're trying to stop them from basically creating bombs. And we're like, don't do it, don't do it. We even put pamphlets out. Like I said, nobody knows how to read. So we just covered the area with paper.

We just played it on the radio. We did everything. We could. And so we're sitting there. It's late. It's really late. It's not that far. We're very close to the road.

It's like from here to a little bit further than that wall. And we see these two military age males and a donkey starting to walk down the road. And I call up to the post. I'm like, oh, hey, COG, COG is post one. Roger. We got two military males. I'm moving from east of west and move down the road. What do you want us to do?

I'm on my way over. He comes over from the other building. He's like looking out of the hole and he looks at the hole. He goes, listen, they do anything. They do anything at all. You fucking smoke him. I was like, Roger that. And I hit the 240.

I'm like, I'm about to go to college for free. Right? And I'm there. I'm there. We don't even need NVGs. There's no noise or light pollution there. Marines don't have NVGs. We also don't have NVGs, right?

It's a budgetary issue. Equipment makes you weak. Chesty Puller said that. equipment makes you weak, move forward. Right. So I'm on the 240, he's another 240, and the COG, corporal the guards, like, what's going on?

I'm like, nothing, nothing. And they get, like, right center. So, like, me and group, like, we're locked on. We're, like, ready. Because what comments, when they plant a bomb, this is very well-known, it doesn't release anything. The way it works is, like, it's not a one-person job. You basically get paid for what you're doing.

There's one guy who gets paid to dig the hole. another guy comes by, he puts the item in the hole. Right. The third guy gets paid to cover it up. Basically, so they don't want to lose one go. They have like, oh, well, we still have the holes out there. We still have the bombs out there and cover them up. So, like, we thought they would come by, just scoop some stuff or just drop some stuff off, whatever.

Waiting, and they just stop. And then, like, looking at him, and he's like, what's going on? I was like, I don't know, they're just kind of standing here. And they're looking around, and then one guy goes to the front, and then one guy goes to the back. and the one guy goes to the front takes the donkey and he puts it like this and a headlock

and like a guillotine and he locks it up and then the other guy takes his shirt and puts it in his mouth and he starts fucking this donkey I swear to God I swear to God

this is verifiable by every person I was with I swear to you I swear to you this happens and I go oh my God and group goes holy shit

and then people start waking up they're like what's going on I'm like COG COG COG he's like what and I go you gotta get over here right now I don't say it over the radio

because this stuff's documented and he like looks at their hole he's like oh my god he's fucking that donkey by this point every Marine in the room starts waking up and be like what the fuck what the fuck's going on and so they start looking out of the glory hole right the verse glory hole

and he's like oh oh my god so all them are like they're moving around I remember guys are moving around machine gun barrels be like holy shit holy shit eventually called the lieutenant like sir, sir, wake up, wake up, he's like, what's going on? I was like, they're fucking a donkey.

They're fucking a donkey, sir. It's like, no, they're not. And he's like, oh my God, they're fucking a dog. This is a well-educated man. Fucking a donkey. Right? And I was like, sir, let's kill him. He's like, you can't kill him.

There'll be blood and cum everywhere. This guy fucks his donkey for like a long time. Arguably way too long to be fucking a donkey. Right? Because you feel like if you're going to fuck a donkey, you're in and out. No, this dude, he was like slapping it. the ass and his friends holding it and then

after finally it just stops it just stops and the COJ's like what's going on I was like he stopped he's like all right let me know anything else happens and then I was like Roger that and I look up then they fucking swapped oh my god

so and that was the moment that I knew we're not going to be able to teach these guys democracy so so yeah so I told this story on Unsob. It's one of their most popular episodes

today. And so I tell this story on stage in Nashville and the crowd just explodes. And it was the first time Unsub also ever did two shows back to back. So we do that and then Nick looks at me. He's half in the bag. He goes

you got to tell it again. We're going to act out the donkey story next time. It was his idea. And I was like, what? Who plays the donkey? Our friend Rich. Henry Tops? He hates it. He hates it.

But Rich was also half in the bag and he's like... Who's fucking the donkey? Both of us. And he's like, I'll be the donkey. And so now it's an integral part of the show where it's like a leading up point because where Nick tells the story and then Nick leads into it and he's like, you guys want to hear a donkey story. So I travel the country telling the story about two guys fucking a donkey and I'm going to

your sweet wife loves nothing more than hearing 2,000 people screaming. and lose their fucking minds. Yeah. When her husband has to go up there and tell a story about two dudes fucking a donkey. Yeah. It's all right. It puts up with a lot. It'll be okay.

It pays the bills. It does pay. It does pay the bills. It's just. That's incredible. No. And she's, it was funny because, like, for a while,

she was, like, searching my friends being like, maybe one of them will tell me, Zach's a lion. And, like, they've all come to the house and like, no, it happened. It was super fucking gross. We're traumatized. She keeps hoping. It's the only time my wife has been like, I hope my husband's stealing valor.

Maybe this is all made up and maybe it's all a dream. It's not made up. It's not a dream. Sir, get over here. I can't say. Sir, you know, well. But yeah, it's, yeah, I mean, there's other stories. They're not like that.

That's next level. Yeah. I never heard anything like that before. No, it's, yeah. So that's when people are like, oh, you know, what are the people like over there? And I'm like, I got a story. No, we're fucking donkeys. I got a story for you.

We heard about some other fucking over there. It's not great either. That's been well documented on the story. podcast. Yeah, it's very well documented. The guy who made a documentary about my deployment to Mars, his name's Ben Anderson. He used to work at Vice News. I don't know if he still does. But he also made a documentary called This Is What Winnings Look Like. The trailer's probably the worst thing I've ever seen. I don't even want to say it, but basically he talks about the head Afghan police chief at the time says, I'm going to be vulgar, but it just is

what he says. He says, if we don't fuck the little boys, they're going to fuck the pussies of their grandmothers. This is the head of all Afghan police. This is the very intro to the documentary. Like, their rationalization and normalization of the behavior they do is beyond anything that I could even really understand. But yeah. I don't know how you get that out of society because of how deep rooted it is. And like, like I said, they also don't. like homosexuality. They hate gay people. That is a, I've, they've tortured, killed. It goes back to, I had to go through this. You'd have to now too. Yeah. Yes. But I think you, I mean, there has to be like all abuse, a strong power dynamic and getting off on that power dynamic

there beyond just like I went through this. So you will too. And, you know, it's not one or two guys who were in Afghanistan coming in here and telling me this, it's everybody. Dude, they would try, the A&A would try and be like, hey, we got to go talk to people. You're like, you're not fucking talking to anybody. Stay over here. Stay right here. Yeah. And like, oh, no, no, we need to talk to.

No, you don't. I mean, there's tons of stories, you know, of it happening. I mean. There's an Army E6 that got, like, oh, yeah. There was a, it was a, like, famous court case. This was years ago. But there was an Army E6 that beat the shit out of his INA, like, equivalent. commander and he got fired and I believe he got I believe he got separated from the military

because the official stance of the U.S. government was we need to respect their culture. Yeah, he came in on them in a gangrape situation and he actually stopped it and they punished him for it. I've had people in here who went and stopped those situations and they didn't get punished but that's crazy. That's fucking crazy. Yeah. No, they were never allowed to be out my site. They were always around us. Um, you know, our Afghan army counterparts, at least the ones we worked with. I didn't have any situations like that. I wouldn't allow anything like that. Were you warned about that before you went there? Um, no. I mean, the first deployment, we didn't work with them, but the second deployment, they were like literally left seat, right

seat. They were with us everywhere. So how did you find out about that culture? Um, they talked about it. without going too specific into it, we were working with some intelligence assets internal to the Marine Corps that just gather intelligence. And he would honestly teach us, this gentleman would teach us some of the things about their culture to like, he's like, he would literally be like, no shit, this is what happens here. And he would explain things to us. Because like you hear things and like you read things. And the only real cultural training we had prior to that was there was this like professor from like UNC Wilmington or something. showed up at the Marine Corps, showed at the Marine Corps base theater at Camp Lejeune,

and she was like, this is how you tell this from that. And she would, like, talked to our whole battalion, and she, like, played Aladdin and said, like, how none of it applied to, like, the Middle East.

And I was like, yeah, we know. Like, she was like, this isn't real. And I'm like, no shit, genies aren't real? Holy fuck, that's Robin Williams isn't over there?

I was just like, damn, they really make anybody a professor these days. They literally cut her speech short because it was just, like, insane. But there are some cultural training stuff that goes into it. But like honestly, like the majority of the things that we would do would, like my thing was like, I was always worried about the kids.

In particular, the young girls because like one of them, there was one of them, I took a photo with my first appointment. Just reminded me of my daughter. And I gave her some skittles once. When we were walking by, I just gave her some skittles. And her little brother came up to her and like started hitting her with a stick. And so I walked over there. And I was like, hey, what's up, bud? And I cracked him in the head.

And I was like, come here, John. This is our interpreter. I was like, you tell him that if he ever touches his sister again, we'll come back and he'll regret it for the rest of his life. And John's like, don't worry. And he's like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Boom. And he's like, I told him.

And the kids started crying. And so I gave the girl a bottle of water and stuff. Because there's all sorts of things societally about them. Like, if you interact with females past a certain age, they're outcast, all those different things. They're used as, like, property. That's how women are treated once. girls become women. It's just, it's rough. And so, um, you know, and then you hear people talk about, like, like, things over here in America. And I always feel like I'm just putting on my grizzled veteran hat.

Like, people have no idea the things to which the rest of the world is societally. Um, talk about equality and stuff. Newsflash, no one's working as fucking hard as we are at it. Like, we are winning in every, nothing's perfect. I'm not saying that. I've never been that fucking stupid. stupid but everyone's like speak of the devil um everyone's um like you know you have no idea blah blah blah i didn't get this i didn't get that it's so hard and i'm like oh man you ever seen a young child get beat because she had skittles by her family members who treated her like she was less than you ever seen all the different things that happen over there and you know that's that's what's tough is i think that's what i think about when i think about you know

people that are still there, I think, about the ones that don't really have a chance at a life because we're not there anymore. That's why we shouldn't have left. We created a massive power vacuum. Just a safe haven for terrorism and narco drugs. And so many people got killed, too, people who helped out. I mean, the best one thing to explain it is people, like, ask how bad Afghanistan is.

I'm like, this is how bad it is. We're withdrawing from a country. We're leaving it. people are literally holding on to a fucking airplane that deep down inside they know they can't hold on to but they're still going to fucking try as it takes off. That's how bad it is. Yeah, I remember that video.

Like, that's, if anyone ever needs anything, be like, is it that bad? That's how bad. They're willing to be, maybe I can hold on to it. Maybe it'll land when we get out of here. Who the fuck knows? But I'm going to try. I'm going to try to hold on to this C-130 as long as I can because it's better than what's back there. Yeah. yeah it still gets me yeah

but I mean guys we just did like three and a half hours we have to do this again sometime yeah you guys are fucking awesome I was telling him he's doing Iowa run

we'll take him out CPU view that would be cool yeah you're saying yeah I never been out to Iowa dude's crazy

he can in a good way he can throw his wedding ring in the air and shoot a 9mm millimeter round through it while it's falling do we have video

He has it in super slow-mo, high-speed. Yeah. The first time I... You had to be born with something for that. The first time I met him, I didn't know what to expect. I thought it was going to be like a dude perfect situation. Like you sit out here for six hours, get an incredible shot done. He's like, pull your pistol.

I pull my pistol out. He's like, shoot at a target. I go, okay, dang, I shoot at the target. He's standing right here next to me. He goes, okay, shoot at the same target in the same spot. I'm like, all right, that's weird. What are you doing? I shoot at the same target at the same spot.

He just wanted to see where. where my brass was ejecting. On the second shot, he steps back, kicks my brass into the air, pulls his gun out from concealed, and shoots my brass on the first try. And that's how I met him. Dog.

Go to his shorts. Yeah, go to his shorts. Dog. Go to his shorts. Shout out to the boy. Do popular? Should we do popular? Hit popular on shorts?

Yeah. The problem is there's so many. Do one with a pistol. Dude Hit your brass Do that one Yeah that one's at the washer Classic

Wait it just went off it I think Yeah What happened Go to Oh it might do that Yeah hit it And then it might

Yeah No Yep No That's one bad white Anywhere's fucking Sunglasses Is doing it

Yeah Bro All right So they're gonna eject the washer out from behind him. Yeah. His cameraman's going to throw it. Yo, that's some Spider-Man shit. Also, why filming. Shout out Dalton for throwing it and filming all at the same time.

That's Spider-Man shit. No! No fucking way. Yeah. Bro. Is that AI? No. I've seen him do it. I've seen him do it. In person. Several times. I didn't even fucking touch it. Yeah. Nick, didn't he buy the Slavis?

motion camera just to counter all the comments just to do this shit yeah because people didn't believe it oh my god yeah all right yeah I would love to come see that me and him out did Mythbusters in an afternoon like I mean this is this is Jesus of guns right here

show another pistol war where he's just fucking tearing it up do that one uh far far left that one how do you slide oh yeah yeah slide move so early okay what the fuck it's a lot better with sound with sound it's oh wait we got to take it off

yeah you have to take this sound out yeah let's mark that because it's copyrighted but I mean I can see it with this that's just like that looks like some dude some kid in his basement who's played call of duty nonstop for 11 years except this is real yeah and then what's he doing now

just beating it up yeah just beating it up just to prove he can do it yep what the fuck yep he gets his videos on his videos on YouTube get demonetized a lot because you're not allowed to shoot machine guns and have the video be monetized. But he's not shooting machine guns. He's shooting semi-auto guns. And he just is able to fire that fast. There you go. YouTube. See, monetization followed. He's firing semi-auto guns,

not a machine gun. He's just, God. Wow. So I- To a shirt. That's hilarious. I never really had any pistol shooting in the Marine Corps at all. He's so good at it. The first time I shot, he was like, hey, do this with your hand. And like, every time I'm around him, I've probably become a better pistol shooter by like 50%. And he could even like, like, one time he turned around, he's like, hey, you're squeezing too much with your left hand. I was like, were you even looking to me? He's like, nah. Can he bend a bullet?

If anyone can do it, it's him. It's him. Yeah, I got to come see that. I would love to see it. That's crazy, bro. That's some next level shit. Yeah. All right, boys.

Well, we're going to link all the channels and everything down below. We got Fat Electrician, Veteran with a Sign. We also got the Underwhelming Podcast. We'll put unsubscribe podcast down there as well. What else are we missing? That's it. That's it, man. Well, thanks so much for coming out.

It's been awesome. We've got to do this again sometime. Yeah, yeah. It's awesome. Everybody else, you know what it is? Give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace.

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