Julian Dorey Podcast - #80 - Conspiracies, Rugs, Drugs, & Comedy | Lil Twinn

Episode Date: December 30, 2021

Vinnie “Lil Twinn” Monzo is a rapper. He is best known as one half of the duo, “No Thanks,” along with fellow artist Mizzy Coke. Furthermore, Twinn is the Founder of “Rug Up Your Life.”  Twinn’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/itsnothx/  ***TIMESTAMPS*** 0:00 - Rugs; How do you define crazy; Getting bullied at a young age; Twinn’s an alien 22:53 - The 112 year sentence for a car accident; Twinn’s theory on how we’re all becoming robots via sensory loss; Gen Z, the generation behind them, and the reality of the metaverse; Masks in school and social division 44:50 - The lawyer society; Twinn talks about how a solar company he worked for targeted old people; Future warfare; The turtle who lived in a cigarette box; Power takes advantage of bad events; NFTs; crypto scams 1:05:18 - An old lady and the Wawa 401k; Twinn tells hilarious stories about different jobs he had growing up; Twinn’s mom almost forced him into the military; The Island Boys 1:24:04 - The early 90’s are having a comeback; Twinn explains how he and his dad make wine; Julian talks about living in Italy; Twinn failed every class in high school; Twinn tells a story about a Nun from grade school; Julian and Twinn talks ADHD & Celiac Disease 1:48:59 - Using voices, comedy, and expressions in music; Twinn tells a story about a cigar company he works with; Instagram spamming 2:08:56 - The kid who quit his job and asked Logan Paul to hire him; Twinn talks about Virgil Abloh’s 30 minute shirt test; Twinn and Julian discuss recreational substances; Julian recalls the Firecrackers from college; Twinn’s Gluten-free edibles idea; Twinn’s biggest influences; How Soulja Boy Won The Limewire Era; Kanye & crazy genius; Rachel Ray’s impact ~ YouTube EPISODES & CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0A-v_DL-h76F75xik8h03Q  ~ PRIVADO VPN FOR $4.99/Month: https://privadovpn.com/trendifier/#a_aid=Julian   Get $100 Off The Eight Sleep Pod Pro Mattress / Mattress Cover: https://eight-sleep.ioym.net/trendifier  Julian's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey  ~ Beat provided by: https://freebeats.io  Music Produced by White Hot Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Mason is the owner, that co-owner of that studio. So Dill had introduced me to Lil Twin, and we finally got him in here. And man, it did not disappoint. I think we said this during the podcast, something along the lines of this is like the Seinfeld episode. It's about everything, but absolutely nothing. Perfect way to end the year. I had to edit myself laughing so loud. I don't know, 90 times, 100 times. I probably missed some of them. I was fucking peeing myself listening to this guy and his girlfriend brie also came in here so it's like an interesting dynamic we had someone in there like watching this all go down as it was awesome so hope you guys enjoy it's it's definitely

a sprint in this one throughout the whole thing this guy's a million miles a minute but good way to end the year and on to 2022 everybody on to 2022 that said you know what it is i'm julian dory and this is trendfire let's go this is one of the great questions in our culture where is the nuance you're giving opinions and calling them facts everyone understands this but few seem to do it if you don't like the status quo start asking questions a lot of people stopped doing stuff when covid hit and i guarantee you also a lot of people found new things to fuel their fire to make them keep going during COVID when they couldn't do

their number one thing. Like, you know, for me, I was like, fuck it. I want to make rugs. And I was telling my girl, what's the story with this rugs thing? Oh, bro, the rugs thing is fucking awesome. So like, I was just sitting, I always wanted to do it, but I didn't know when. And this is like another thing of how you're saying like, well, like, what do you mean? Like, why don't you just do it? And like, I just felt like there was a time and a place for it to be done and i wanted to really do it when you know i i had the time because i didn't want to start it and have it be like a little hobby that people were like yeah it's cool bro you're making some progress but like i wanted to really do it and prove to people i can be a beast rug maker i'm gonna put

one in the corner of the screen while you're talking so people can see this. Yeah, do it. It's awesome. I'm going to show people what this is. Because these things, I'm huge into things where we put things around us that tie in pop culture. And so this is furniture at the end of the day. It's a part of your room. I think, like, see what I'm saying?

Like, see how I'm saying, like, you need to have ideas and, like, thinking of what's next. Like, you can have a rug and keep it on your floor all you want, but why not put a rug on the wall? And now you can hang up a wall, hang up a rug on the wall. Stroke the fairy wall. Yeah, or you can have, like, you can have a mirror rug. You can have a puzzle rug. You can have just, like like a rug that lights up if you put lights in it.

Like I just want to get crazy to the point where you can do anything. I'm working with this guy. What's the use for a wall rug besides just the decoration? I would just say art, man. It's just art. It's like hanging up, you know, just like a poster or anything.

Instead of you getting like the rug dirty, like you can just hang it up on the wall and appreciate it on the wall a lot of people like hanging them up on the wall i mean the designs are incredible like this is a cool like yeah it's a tedious process too and uh how long do they take it depends on the design and how much you really want to get it done. You know, if you're not, like, smoking weed or, like, if you're not, like, breegy and don't have your Starbucks yet, you know, you got to, like, you got to just bang shit out. And, you know, I got other shit going on.

If I have to do all this music shit, you know, thankfully I have breegy holding it down some days. And when breegy has stuff to do, I'm holding it down. So it's cool but and brie we got you in studio today yeah we got we're gonna do a couple of these where i know we have some people like coming in from the road where we're gonna have people in but you're the first person sitting here while we're doing this yeah first ever you feel special yet yeah yeah so really what you're saying is pre-run runs the business over here. She runs it, man. She kills it.

I'm telling you. I'm just somebody who just creates dope things, and I need other people to keep the idea snowballing because I already pushed it down the hill. Do you – a lot of these designs, are you putting them together? A lot of people just send their designs to us, and then now in 2022, we're getting into making our designs or if you don't know an idea of what you want yet you can kind of like you know give me a direction to where i can help you out well

how do you make this like what's the process because like i'm looking at the detail here like the cdg hearts these are incredible yeah it's obviously like you're working off their design completely like you're recreating it but like what what what's this made out of and how does this work that's acrylic yarn and we put it on monk cloth we trace it on the monk cloth on what monk cloth m-o-n-k what's that it's just a cloth that you use it's a material that uh you when making it like I don't even know how to explain it because i barely know shit about rugs bro i'm just making you just make them that's it bro like that's what i'm saying like people think you gotta know stuff like how kanye west is like what does lady gaga know about

you know what i'm saying like you don't gotta know nothing man he's gotta kill shit bro and that's it like um like you know what i'm saying like i i just know how to do it like i don't know like the education like i can't teach people like the education on it like i can just teach people like yo if you want to win and you want to do something just do it bro i don't talk about it but you got to be good at it like you're good at this you yes and no i feel like anybody can do it if you wanted to do it you know what i'm saying like but that's what i'm saying you had to learn how to do it and like i'm looking at this it's a doppelganger of what you're trying to create it was a tedious process if you scroll back to i'm sure we have some posts that aren't up there anymore but like we started in 2020 and

you can see the shaving and the detailing gets better as the the time progresses like that was the first one that i wouldn't say the first one but one of them yeah yeah but you can see like there's barely like we didn't shave this because like as as time was going on we're also learning from other rug people in the community like you know you got to shave them and trim them community yeah it's it's a big rug community to tough the world what what's the what's the actual did you say it's acrylic yeah acrylic yarn you can use wool you can use a lot of different you can use a lot of different materials it's just depending on you know how much you want to spend like wool is obviously a lot more than acrylic yarn but we go to hobby lobby or walmart spend six dollars on yarn and uh you know make a three hundred dollar rug do you do you do this by hand yeah these are all done by

hand everything's done by hand yeah so wait design right here, you're doing that with your fingers? Yeah. Like, we have a gun. We have a tufting gun, but it's all by hand, though. So how long does that one take right there? I'm going to put this one in the corner. It's the Wu-Tang. I would say that it takes about, like, an hour, two hours tops.

This takes an hour, two hours? Yeah, if you want to get it done. I'm talking, like, getting the yarn in there and getting it done. You know what I'm saying? But you had like all the design done, the shaping, all of it. An hour or two hours to do that. No, I'm saying like I can get that rug done in two hours. But like the process, like you know what I'm saying?

No, I don't. All right. So when we trace the rugs up on the frame, we have to do the rugs. We have to like, you know, like whatever the design is. And then we have to cut it out and glue it and stuff. But before we do that, like it has to be done. So what I'm saying is. So wait, so I'm trying to picture this and I might be totally misunderstanding.

So correct me if I'm wrong here. But you're basically like you take a design like this. Like you gave me Wu-Tang. I go on my computer. I trace it onto the mon cloth by projecting it and then after i do that i get the certain colors that i need for the design and then i go in coloring the lines like in kindergarten and then um like i said like that's the easiest part coloring the lines like if you want to get detailed wise and all that stuff that

takes a lot longer but if you're just saying i have to do yellow there and red there and black there it'll take me two hours because i know what i have to do but going in for the tedious part like the trimming and the tweezing of like you know the little imperfections and stuff that takes a lot more time it's gonna say seven hours and that makes it all smooth yeah on the top and the bottom. Yeah. Well, the bottom too, we have a non-slip backing. We have tags. A what? Non-slip backing. So like, you know, I can have something on here.

Like this coaster can, you know, how it doesn't really move. So I'm not breaking my leg on the rugs. Yeah, exactly. You can't sue us. You have that in the disclosure there. That's good. Yeah, these are like, these are really cool. Yeah, we got a website too.

And I don't want to stereotype it either, but it's like such a... This makes me think of all the good parts of weed culture. It just does. I don't know why. Weed? Yeah, yeah.

It's one of those things where it's like... When I picture my favorite places in college where we sit around just like ripping a bowl yeah it's like a cozy warm environment with like cool images all around and this is what I would like expect to be that's crazy you said a wee thing though because I was saying for 420 I want to make like pre-drops and like be prepared for like things and holidays like for Christmas we did the Grinch one and the elf feet oh yeah I saw that one and um yeah you can see the process too of shaving and whatnot oh you guys are putting this on tiktok yeah like you see all

these tools though you know what i'm saying that's so cool it just makes a big difference in the final product it's like me and mizzy can make songs and go to the studio did you make that by the way that video nice job yeah she kills tiktok so good me and mizzy can go to the studio and have like a raw song or we can have the engineer sit on it and take four hours to edit it and make it better than the what the original would sound like and that's like the same process with the rugs i i feel yeah you're just a pure creative like in this way i love talking with people like i just feel like i'm a i'm a crazy nut man i'm just a psycho. You know what I'm saying? I'm crazy. Good. I don't know what I'm doing.

I just know I need to do something. Well, besides that, how do you define crazy? I would say just having fun in your own madness. I'm just in my own world. Sometimes, if you're not in my world, you won't get it. But when you're in my world, you might agree with me that, all right, he's not crazy. He's just a crazy genius. But, you know, I don't know.

Sometimes my brain just keeps talking. I don't even know if to spit out sometimes. Certain shit just comes out, and I don't even know what I'm talking about. Nah, because you have a different – I'm trying to think of how I want to say this. Sorry, be blunt, man. You can say it. Creativity is such a personal thing, and it's different across everyone, not just within different mediums like music or art whatever it is but you have to be able to

fuck this is so hard to explain but i love this topic so much yeah like like you're talking about as someone who you were a dj for a long time like that's what you like you like curating sounds that other people made and putting them together and like kind of taking a gauge of like how everyone i just feel like all this shit is part of the process that i didn't know it was supposed to be part of the process so then you move on like you move to rap or now you actually got to do it right it's not just like you get to take everyone else and curate it now it's like i'm putting myself out there and like you would i need to make music that you like now now where i'm playing music and i find it oh you like this song I'm gonna play it for you now I need to make songs write songs find beats that are hard hitting you

know that like pull that mic in just a little bit want the crowd to go crazy like I that you know it's a it's a lot but you were uncomfortable with that too yeah because you were like self-conscious like well now I gotta make it too and so now it's just not taking the best it was hard at first man like uh especially just being who i was as a kid like i always knew like five years old i was gonna be like an entertainer like uh my mom could say the same thing she'd come up here and say the same shit you know like um when like teachers know his music though you just thought you were gonna be an entertainer i i kind of knew it was music. I just, like I said, I didn't have the confidence in myself at the time. Because I had a lot of people hating on me, bullying me. And just a lot of shit I went through.

A lot of crazy shit that molded me. People were bullying you? Yeah, man. Like, bad. I'm always curious about that. Bro, man, I wanted like kill myself all the time really yeah but like i didn't know i wanted to kill myself why were they bullying you i think it was because they didn't like they didn't get a reaction you know like imagine you trying to get

a reaction out of somebody that just doesn't like care what you're trying to say like you can and like just after a certain point it's like like what like i don't understand why you guys are just doing this like what are you guys just waking up and just like you know what let me just be mean for no for no reason like not not saying that like uh it was like fucking terrible every day in school but i'm just saying like you know i'm sure everybody got picked on i'm not saying i'm the sure you know but it wasn't because you were different or what it was their logic not that there ever is i mean uh when i switched high schools it was a lot of clicky shit it was a lot of like he say she say it was a lot of people making up rumors and like

i had to you know go out there protect myself and swat down these rumors but like i don't care about that stuff now because like you know and like all those people that used to bully and hate like they're all hitting me up saying yo man you're doing great and it's just like one of those things where like I wish they could have like supported back then because then like it could have been I wouldn't say a different outcome but it just would have been nice on me yeah because now like I just don't have like no um I wouldn't say emotion but like I just don't have, like, no, I wouldn't say emotion, but, like, I just don't give a fuck. Like, I'm at a point where, like, especially with this music shit that works out, that I just don't give a fuck. I'm going to say whatever I want. I'm going to do whatever I want.

I'm going to act however the fuck I want because I don't care anymore. And people push me to that point of, like, not caring. And, yeah, I don't know. Dark times, you know, sometimes for me. But, like, I just get out of those funks. And I'm just grateful that, you know, I'm still here, man. Like, you know, like, there's a lot of times in the past where I wish I wasn't here. And it's because of other people.

And, you know, and, like, i can't be a sucker like that and like have other people make me want to eliminate myself you know like i don't know it's crazy that like we're we're in our 20s so we're young this stuff like wasn't that long ago no but like yeah every everything is new man you think about though like when you were 13 14 15 16 you know going through the end of middle school into high school and like the shit that everyone was concerned about or that was nothing. Yeah. Like your peaks over. But here's the thing. And this is what's wild to me.

And I think about this a lot. Those are the things that even if we know now like oh that means nothing or like oh that why did we even talk about that or care those experiences and how they made you feel shaped how you look at things like for yourself in the world yeah so you see a lot of people who never amount to anything because they got beaten down for years and years and years and i was like all right i'm gonna be in this i'm in the. And they don't look at it that way, like, oh, that's exactly why and this is why I'm feeling this way. If they did, maybe they could get out of it.

But like, they let, you know, the younger years of like, awkward kids thrown around stupid shit define them as a person and then they never step out and do things like, oh yeah, you know what, fuck it, I actually am gonna rap. I think people just didn't take me serious too, like, I knew, you know what, fuck it. I actually am going to rap. I think people just didn't take me serious too.

Like I knew what I was talking about, but people didn't understand what I was talking about. So they would just like reject. I can't, I can't, I can't even, I can't even be a fan of that. I can't even entertain that. I don't know. I don't, I don't understand what you're talking about. You know?

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That type of attitude is now the exact thing that we're seeing on like a massive scale in society with just like normal day-to-day shit. You can't talk about anything because if you don't agree with this team or that team like they're gonna all tell you to go fuck yourself yeah and it's because people are unknowingly even if they're not worried about the stupid shit anymore they're still living in that culture of like this is how we say things are so that's how it is and therefore if you don't say that then fuck you yeah and now it's like infecting our politics and shit which is it's wild no there's there's a lot of crazy shit going on in the world man i love conspiracies i love aliens i'm an alien i really think i'm an alien bro i'm an alien so full disclosure when i go into the booth like it's not me coming up with his music oh you're an alien in the booth bro like are you an alien i I don't know. It's his twins. I'm telling you, man. I was like, I was waiting for this.

Nah, but for real, I just think, like, sometimes you go into the booth and you don't know what to say, but something comes to you. And, like, it's not even, like, me. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not even like me. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's something else. It's another creature speaking through you. Bro, I know it sounds crazy, bro. I know it sounds crazy, man. I just think something else in the universe is, like, put in that thought.

Because, like, you can be in the studio and not have, like, anything, a good song or anything, and then all of a sudden you can have just something hit you. like you don't know where it came from you don't know how you got it but it just hit you and like that's kind of what i'm referring to i'm not thinking out here like i take my skin off and i'm right i know what you mean i know what you mean but yeah um no it's a good way of putting it it's like all right because i want to get to the alien thing too yeah but before that like on what you just said do you believe in in like the weird what's the what's the term i'm trying to think of it like it's like the eureka thing or like the deja vu thing like these types of stuff where butterfly effect yeah yeah where you can't explain why that just happened but it did

and maybe you even saw it happen before it did but you weren't aware of it yeah like i like that's what i'm saying with this whole music journey like i don't know if this is like you know the path that's already been laid in front of me like and i'm just like in line walking the line that's already been drawn you know like i feel like a lot of people um have their story already written out they just need to play their part yeah yeah you gotta do like that's the thing like you're doing you're you're making shit you have an archive here now 30 40 songs you've been making you're making more like you're creating like still to this day yeah that's the key there's a lot of people who sit back and say let me wait wait for it. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I like holding on to songs that I believe in a lot that I feel should get released when the time's right. I don't want to drop all these 90s sounding songs when I was just trying to tell people I was a rapper. Because then, God forbid, I look like a wannabe and now i look like i want to be the next beastie boys but now like since i've been rapping for a year two years with ms and we built our own sound three years yeah three yeah yeah you're right well i kind of took 2020 out because that nobody did anything that year yeah but um i just feel like uh what was i saying you were talking about like the journey of it and how it kind of comes together because you've been creating now for, well, you're saying two years, but three years. Yeah, I honestly forget my train of thought for real.

It's all good. I do it all the time. Yeah, brain fart. All good. And that's the beauty of this podcast. Yeah, no, I love it. I love it. It's just talking.

There's no plan, Ted. It's whatever. But fuck it. Let's get right to the aliens. I got to, I love it. I love it. It's just talking. There's no plan, Ted. It's whatever. But fuck it. Let's get right to the aliens. I got to come back to this. Let's do it. So full disclosure, I had never been like that. I don't want to say like not interested, but that was never something that like consumed

my thoughts on the conspiracy level. I love thinking of some conspiracies, but I was never like, hmm, I wonder if like that person's an alien or like if we've discovered it here. But one friend alessi is like so into it he's one of those guys who like every time joe rogan has on somebody who's like in the universe he's listening to it six times that guy right right exactly tinfoil hat full thing so he's been like really pushing me like some of the stuff like where there's evidence and it is more interesting to me now. So I'm just curious what people think because it's almost like with the pandemic and how the whole world changed with COVID. Now people are just like resigned to like crazy shit happening.

So like, oh, that must mean like how CIA has been releasing their own documents and to tell me more about this. Yes, I've seen. I honestly don't know. I saw the headline. I'm just telling you i'm an alien man that's it but um i just i just see uh a lot of um things being thrown in our face like aliens are real like but like it's where like they're throwing it in your face to like make you think it's a lie you know yes like it's like yo let's show this crazy clip that looks like an alien and is an alien but we'll just say that it's a kite like you know like it's just like and then you have someone you know calling 9-1-1 i just seen something in the sky yada yada and then like you know you got the news coming out with alien sighting and yada yada and then like this propaganda and then all of a sudden you you uh

then see another story say like confirmed it was a plane flying from like you know it's it's like they always put out so many stories to where you don't even know the real truth you can't even like get the own truth because there's so many things out there getting put out it's like a diversion tech yeah that's what you're saying yeah same thing with this uh maxwell trial man you know what i'm saying how are they gonna put on the dude who's going to jail for a hundred years for the messed up brakes in the trucking accident but you're you're not gonna have the trial on for that oh that was so fucked up by the way it's still going on the the no the not the epstein trial no yeah that's what i'm saying yeah that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Still going on.

The trial. The trucker thing. Tell people what that was. That's fucking wild. Yeah, this guy, I don't know the full, full story. All I know was his brakes gave out. He was driving like a 16, 18-wheeler, and he killed, I think, four or maybe more people, and it wasn't on purpose.

And the jury and the prosecutors where the case is are just trying to throw him the book and give him like 100 years. Yeah, they sentenced him to 112. Five million people signed a pension saying like, yo, you guys need to revisit this, and now they're going to revisit it. They're probably hopefully going to get the governor involved and see if they can reduce the sentence to 15 to maybe even less years because i don't know if you remember they signed a petition yeah oh sorry and you said pension i was like i said pension i was like wait there's another word oh petition i said pension no it's all good yeah i'm not the smartest either i can't spell to save my life um what was i gonna say but if you remember tracy morgan yes when he got into an accident with a truck wheeler guy, that guy didn't do a day in jail. Yeah, because I think it was like kind of, if I remember correctly, it was very similar.

People got murdered in that as well. Yeah. I mean, not murdered, but people died in that as well. That's what I'm saying. We should be looking at intent with this stuff. Everyone knows that trucker didn't try to kill anyone. His brakes gave out. 100%. like that that's the that scares me like my ultimate fear is being in a six by eight box for something i didn't do no you know what else scares me bro like this there's all this

covet stuff how so like i feel like they're trying to make us into like almost like robots here's this crazy theory i got it's crazy i already i already am starting to agree with you but let's hear it so they want you like this this covid shit loses your taste and your smell i feel like they want us to lose all of our sensories you know so like a lot of kids growing up now if you watch violent things you kind of just sit there like wow he just got his head blown off like sick you're used to it you know you don't have like like an emotion like you have emotion but it's kind of just like um i don't know you're just used to seeing that type of shit and i think what this this is covid shit like you're using your

taste and your smell there's people saying that like after they get it they lose it for like forever they don't get it back i'm just thinking like yo they trying to turn us into robots out here bro on on a slow scale you got elon musk coming out with the neuron link chip or whatever it's called whatever it is putting chips into people he already got monkeys neural link playing tesserris and shit like i just i know i'm probably looking crazy as hell but whatever not really um that's what i think you know you got people going on strike at mcdonald's trying to get 15 an hour they're gonna get replaced with robots like it's it's just wild to me and um at the first time ever in our world existence of the human history we're going on a decrease of population first time ever humans are decreasing data already i haven't seen that

is that data already happening yeah because of covid it's interesting i keep talking i'll pull something up and um i don't know that's all i just you know that was just my little theory my little theory just so like i'm not looking crazy if it does come in into fruition and true in the later years that you know they try to like start having people be robots now it's interesting how you said that because i i agree with the overall meta theme of like they're just well now with the metaverse weird now with the metaverse weird now with the metaverse like i can i can feel this table right but now you got fucking mark coming out with gloves mark you got them coming out with gloves where you can like feel the resistance of you

picking up a cup without you really picking up the cup and it's like you're replacing all these things that you're supposed to naturally just, you know, like feel. Yeah, while you're talking here, I'm pulling up like whatever sources I can get on that point as far as like population issues and whatever. So this one's, this one's, I'm laughing. This one's from the World Economic Forum. And I'm just reading, the headline is COVID-19 could see U.S. population shrink faster, which shouldn't make people feel good because this is the place that everyone's always dropping the whole conspiracy theories of New World Order on. Yeah, I bet. These are the guys in Europe who have all the different powerful people meet.

I haven't heard someone put it exactly like that, though, where you're tying in the whole symbolism of the taste and smell going away for people. I know it sounds crazy. It's just like they're dropping variants. Me and Mizzy should be dropping mixtapes. It's crazy. Yes, they are. And it's like do all these variants underlie under COVID? Or is it like – I don don't know when they come out with

the next one is that considered covid 19 still too under the same bracket or is it like where's flu at i don't know like i feel like i don't even hear about the flu anymore i've heard and like that's the thing i've heard some people you know because it's quote unquote flu season now yeah who have been getting it who are testing negative for covid so it's still here but we don't talk about it and then they keep coming out with these variants and like i mean the good news should be like this omicron one that just happened is not severe apparently like it's way less like people are getting what i think is i think they need to keep coming out with variants until they can get all ages vaccined I think that's what they really want

think about it first COVID came out COVID-19, 20, whatever it was called and then they wanted only people up to 18 and older or 16 and up to get the vaccine the Delta came out then they were like, yo, we're going to pitch for

13 to 16 year olds to get this so we can have schools going because schools are going crazy and now kids can get this delta and then like the omicron or whatever it's called they're like yeah now kids can get this like little babies and like i just think it's like 100 but i think it's more like like you can be fine but if somebody's telling you you're broken, you're going to check if you're broken all the time. You know what I'm saying? That's why I don't like going to doctors all the time because doctors just try to put you on shit or fucking – Depends on the doctor.

Yes. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. There's a lot of great doctors out there. I definitely mean that. I'm saying more like psychiatrists and stuff that like just want to put you on pills and be like see you later like i have a friend who is a psychiatrist and she says she has four visits with a patient until she can't see that patient anymore if they

don't get prescribed onto the pills that they prescribed for them and it's like crazy bro wait so she makes people she's saying that like she prescribes them with something almost every time? Yes. And they have to do it. Or they won't get another visit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, see, I think that's a part of the problem. Yeah.

And don't get me wrong. But now you're getting the COVID pill too. Did you see that? Yeah. Yeah, and that's going to be like from Pfizer or whatever. What's that? That's a new vitamin? I ain't taking that.

That's what I'm saying. Like, it's almost, you were saying something earlier. I don't know if it was before we were recording or not, but it was about something entirely different where you're like, they want you to believe the opposite of what it is. Like, maybe that's the end result. Like, they're putting something out there to be like a diversion so that it makes you be like, no.

Wait, that was the alien thing. That's it. So it so it wasn't yeah that was like 10 minutes ago sorry so it's all good but like yeah for a good so that you were saying they put out a lot of alien information so that you're kind of like yeah okay whatever fuck this 100 and then right under your eyes right under your eyes they're putting up cia documents of ufos confirmed and like you know military using ufo technology to you know, military using UFO technology to, you know, make the iPhone and shit. Like, I'm not saying that's how they made the iPhone, but like, you know, like it's just wild. Like, and I think it's just going to get progressively worse. And I think we're also in a awesome time of like this metaverse thing, but that's also

good and bad. It's good for people like me and you because we have an understanding of like i can go play outside for 60 minutes and also know how to play the game but like right kids are growing up to just being like game game game game fortnight fortnight fortnight i don't want to go outside like me and you at least played with a basketball when we were 14 12 years old you know playing ding dong ditch or jailbreak or whatever kids growing up or, you know, not really playing sports anymore, but they're going to dip and dabble into playing Fortnite. And then you got the metaverse where you got this headset that sits on you and it's going to be like ready player one. And people are just going to live in these worlds because you have to think it's all about energy. If you're putting 50% of your energy into the metaverse, that means you're going

to be basically putting 50% of your life into that metaverse. If you have digital assets that make you look cool, you're going to want to make sure you can show off your digital assets in that metaverse. You might not have the coolest shoes in real life, but you might have the craziest kicks in the metaverse and that makes you feel good so you want to walk around in your metaverse kicks rather than your own shoes like it's where it's gonna uh again take away from a lot of emotion because how many times i'm sure you do this how many times do you say ha ha ha in a text message and you're not even laughing a fair amount i know a lot of people who do it all the time you got that stare fate you're like ha ha ha ha you're not even laughing you know

like i actually do laugh a lot when i say that like i'll smile i mean there's there's some there's sometimes where you you get that long but if somebody does a little lol or something like you know lol no way they're not really they're not really like laughing or whatever so i just think like all these little things are going to be to a bigger problem but you know we'll be i guess okay if that will we but that's like the youngest generations always form culture right and then people end up getting with it that's why your grandma's on facebook now because 12 years ago was the important thing for 13 year olds and so eventually she made her way there now it's just all your grandmas and aunts and uncles on there but like everything is crafted through that and yet these

kids that are coming up it's almost like covid just ensured that that's the way it's going to go because now like i feel so bad for all anyone who's like still in school at all all the way up to college who is just like that's what i'm saying i skipped all that i don't know how i don't know that life they just like they don't know how i mean like we don't know the mask life of going to school right or we don't know the mask life of like you know being six years old and having something on your face but you don't know the mask life of like, you know, being six years old and having something on your face, but you don't even understand why you have it on your face. You know, like we don't we don't live that life like they have to live that life. And then they're going to grow up and see like, holy shit, like you guys weren't wearing masks like 20 years ago.

Just like how when we grew up and we're like, holy shit, you could talk on your cell phone while driving. And now it's a ticket and now it's a law. And now, you know, you can get in trouble for it like it's just as time progresses things have to change because i guess of so many um situations that go bad we all fight change like as humans it's a natural thing but it happens all the time and once it happens because we can't decide that it's not gonna i just don't like control change control change that's that's that's where it's like you know like you should have a choice to do what you want to do with your body like agreed you know if you want to be vaccinated or not cool beans you know that's up to you completely that's what i'm saying with the with that point we were talking about with the whole like wanting you to do the opposite

of stuff i feel like there has been almost like purposeful bullshitting going on yeah wear a mask don't wear a mask yeah but not just that but even like with the vaccine to make people like it's almost like it's designed so that a lot of people will question it and then you'll get all the people who don't and are then hardos about it and they tell them to go fuck themselves back and forth and it's like boom boom boom it's a new division yes backs are no backs now you know what i'm saying it's a new thing to fight over republican democrat vacs or non-vacs like it's gonna be a a thing presidents try to talk about all getting re-elected i'll make sure your jobs are good if you guys aren't vacs like 100 you know it's gonna be like the the new thing you're gonna have like communities of non-vax people

probably because you're gonna have cities like new york be like you new thing. You're going to have like communities of non-vax people probably because you're going to have cities like New York be like, you don't have a vax card. You ain't going eating anywhere. Like I tried to go get a cheeseburger. I couldn't even go in the door. They had somebody checking the door like it was a club. Like, do you have your card?

Like I never seen that ever in my life. It's that word you used. It's a division tactic yeah yeah it's it's it's it's right in front of us and um you'll just see what it becomes into in in the upcoming years i'm sure it will get worse i'm sure you're gonna have um shit where people are gonna start confusing like colds like you can you can maybe a fever, and they'll look at you like you got COVID or something. I remember when COVID first came out, people were trying not to cough.

Yeah. People were like... Remember washing our hands every five seconds? Yeah, 100%. People were washing their groceries. Bag of chips, washing a whole bag of chips. Wild. But yeah, we live in an awesome world, world though man only only humans in existence that live

this shit tell you i mean it's just everything the the most the the easiest way to convince people to do something could be a sale could be a directive could be whatever is fear I was just gonna say fear too man that's crazy that's what they use the whole thing and it's like you don't they don't just take things that are totally untrue right so like you got a lot of people out there that are like covet isn't real and it's like well no that's that's that's not that's not the case like it definitely is it's not good but like they'll take that thing where it's like oh here's a real thing and they'll say but we're gonna make it sound like everyone's getting cancer and it's gonna die tomorrow right so they take it from 35 miles an hour to 150 you know and they do it with everything it's the same thing like we talk

about race a lot on this show with all different people because it's an important issue. But like – 100%. While I can agree like, yeah, we still have a lot of things wrong that we got to fix and I want to be a part of someone that raises these points and is a part of that solution. Yeah, I mean we're not living in 1840 though. Like that should be a reasonable statement. But then you talk to people who have been convinced that like, oh, no, we are. That's what it is.

And so to me, I'm just so sick of – and I talk about this theme a lot, but I'm so sick of everything being driven off of such a fear tactic that we only have the two camps of people who go, fuck it. None of it's real or the people who are like, this is literally the end of the world. We're not going to be here tomorrow because of this. Yeah, I that uh people just don't do a lot of research sometimes people love to just go on facebook and sometimes just uh you know troll or disagree or share things that they don't know what they're talking about and it works from every angle yeah i mean i'm sure i'm misinformed about a lot of things that i talk about but but you got to just learn and correct yourself if you're wrong or have somebody teach you the right way of knowing something about a subject or, you know, how to act in life or whatever.

But we made that wrong though. This is another great point you're raising right here. Like we now make it a weakness to be able to say i was wrong about that i know yeah i i also think you know other people that are wrong are uh billionaires like um bill gates that is like you know he's out here in 19 whatever making windows and making the viruses for windows and then in 2016 doing ted talkss saying, yeah, the next thing isn't a war, it's a virus. And then we get this COVID stuff

and then now he's out here with his wife and his wife got a whole medical... What is it called? The Gates Foundation? Yeah, they have like a scientific medical you know, like medical field thing. But it's like, bro, how you miss your computer going into technology? Like, and now you're with technology and science. See, I could see it if not, if he didn't talk about it like he was, you know, like the lead epidemiologist.

That's where, and that's where you have an issue. And that's where I have an issue too. It's like, okay, Bill Gates, smart guy, made a software company you're an engineer all right you have this foundation that supposedly does great work for health initiatives awesome let's hear from the people at the foundation who are doctors you know people like that's what i mean like it's almost the documents which thing the document all the emails released of him. Like, yeah, yeah. Crazy bro. Dude,

he's, I avoid, I do avoid talking about him on here because I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no,

all good. I just, he's going to come up, but I really, um, but it's just people like that, that keep putting like false things into the spotlight. And then they yell at everyone else because when someone says something that they're not saying that must mean it's false and therefore they're

questioning what we're saying so it's not true yeah but they're not even practicing what they preach either at the no they don't they don't i mean it's all it's all theater like the whole the whole mass thing at this point is brain damaging to me you know people walk into a place and take off the mask. Like, it was so important to walk in with it. Now you took it off. And it's everyone, dude. It's not like dumb people or smart people.

It is, anyone is susceptible to it. I see it all the time. I'm like, have you thought about this? China's had it for even before COVID. What do you mean? They were walking around with masks before COVID. Because the air quality is so bad. Yeah.

But. And they had a reason. But exactly. They had a reason to do it. Like they're so. They're fucking up the. I mean they're causing climate change. A hundred percent.

A hundred percent. And it's just wild that. That they. Have like. I don't know. Just like how a mask. Can rule. And determine so much. They can determine if you come into a store when if i come into the store and i take my mask off now i have my mask

off when i eat but you just wanted me to have a mask on when i came in like it doesn't make sense like how am i going to go to a restaurant have a mask on you need a mask on to enter the restaurant sir and i entered a restaurant and then i sit down and then i take it off and then it's like covid waits at the please be seated sign it knows yeah but you know what i'm saying like why why why why would you guys like i feel like a lot of people are also upset and just want to tell you like wear a mask because they don't they can't say anything else but wear a mask they're scared yeah they don't want to deal with that you're right you shouldn't have to wear it i know but like it's where their bosses are like yo this is policy we're getting yelled at by the state and the government to implement these protocols

and you know making sure we have the signs on the door and stuff and if people don't follow them you gotta follow you know you gotta make sure they follow the rules and uh it's just a little weird it's a litigious society they're you know like i know a lot of great lawyers i i happen to like a lot of lawyers too you know they're critical they run our legal system in a way but i do think we are at a point where they are running the world and lawyers yes and what i mean by that is what is a lawyer's job like overall it is risk management right not assuming you're already on trial for something then they gotta fight it and but i'm saying like a lot of lawyers they're there to tell you don't do this or they advise you they counsel you so their job is to think in worst case scenarios very important when you have a bunch of

people like that who then think like that in everything and put it on every part of culture you are now concerned about every little thing that happens to the point that you try to avoid everything you're basically walking out so you don't walk outside i'm not just talking about coven i'm talking about like in general like in your life you're like you wake up and you go well if i take the wrong step out of bed i may fall over and die yeah right done not getting out of bed anymore. And so I remember it because I was a banker in my previous life. And that was the thing that drove me nuts about banks.

They were, you know, some of those bankers really fucked over people in 08. Well, sometimes you learn about shit in jobs that you just wouldn't even know. Exactly. You know? I wouldn't never, like coming out of college, I wouldn't ever have thought that. How that girl told me about the psychologists and how they do that shit or uh you know i used to work for a solar company and they just want to target old people because when they target old people yeah when they when um in solar like i had to cold call people all the time i would cold call like 200 people

when you say solar like solar energy like panels panels on the roof got it and uh i would have the information of the people i was contacting i would have their name of their address and all right before i call now you know oh i'm about to call mary hey mary how are you would you like to get solar today i just need to know a few things to determine if you're eligible you know i need to make sure you have a credit score you need to make sure you have no trees and make sure you get good good enough Sun or there's no point for solar if you don't know Sun on your home if you have around trees and shit so when you target these old people and they don't really know what they're talking about and then mind you if they go through with the solar and sign up there's little things these contracts saying like if you don't pay a

bill we technically own your home like in the solar contracts because you're putting like you don't even own the solar unless you buy it outright. You don't own the solar panels. So you're putting these panels on your roof, but the company realistically owns your roof because they're selling your electric back to like Atlantic City Electric and the power grid. And when you target old people, let's say you get a 70-year-old in a 20-year contract. I'm not saying everybody lives to 90, but God forbid she passed away when she was 73.

Now that solar company owns your home. Owns the home? If she died, yeah, they own the home. Really? Yeah, they can own it outright. If they don't pay their bills, yeah. Own the home really yeah they can own it outright if they don't pay their bills yeah own the home so they can put like a lean and i'm probably stretching the words but they can put like a lean a lean yes exactly that word the lean yep not the one you drink but yeah that one and

that's what i'm saying like that's a fine print contract where you're taking advantage of people technically to do that but like even think on a more harmless level than that because not to be cynical but shit like that you sign up yeah yeah right like you get what you sign up for with that too think about wall street in the 80s yeah bro you're just cold calling people saying dude this stock's gonna go bonko bro exactly you don't get in right now and then you get in and then they take all your money but just thinking like more even harmlessly and simple at the highest level i remember there was there was a law that came into finance in 2017 or 2018 doesn't really matter it was called this fiduciary standard so it just meant i'm way over generalizing

but it meant that like people who manage money had to do what's in the best interest of the client and it had all this 800 pages of how that was going to happen yeah and so there were all kinds of new stipulations you had to have on certain assets that you manage and so 401k plans which are company-wide retirement i was going to bring up the 401k so we're sitting in a meeting this is yeah this is like right when it came out like 2017 we're sitting in a meeting with a partner at a majorly global law firm who is – one of the things he does like for the actual firm is he's the head of the committee for 401K. And this was a big 401K. So we're sitting there like, wow, this is a big opportunity. And the thing that he said did not strike me at the time that much. But the more the years go on and I see things happen in society, the more I'm like, holy shit, this is the problem. The thing he said at the front was my boss asked him the question.

He goes, what do you most like want to get out of this? Like why are you looking at this? Why are you looking at like changing plans and working with us or whatever? And he goes, I don't want to be the first. And we're all looking at him like, what do you mean the first? And he's like, I don't want to be the first law firm that is sued successfully over not doing this correctly within the bounds of this new law that I don't really understand. Wow. And so his whole – and I don't blame him.

His whole thing was like, how do we not lose? Yeah. Hey, what opportunities do we have here? How can we gain? No, it was how do we not lose yeah hey what opportunities do we have here how can we gain no it was how do we not lose so now look across society and think about everything else and where all these lawyers are coming in saying well if this happens that could happen too about every fucking thing and it comes down to this whole idea of like it is a fear of loss and they will constantly tell you like no it's not okay to lose one life out of 350 million people because that's one too many.

Which, in theory, of course, like, if it's my father or my kid or something, yeah, it's devastating. Right? But, like, numbers are numbers. Law of large populations do exist. So, like, when shit does happen, if it's one person out of a million hey i could go get hit by a bus tomorrow too are we gonna stop buses we stop crossing streets like where does it end that's the that's what i'm like you were bringing up that meta theme but like that overall with the metaverse with scamming i think the metaverse is going to be a huge place to scam people oh yeah imagine uh imagine you

lose your mom dad or grandmom and you want to see them so bad again in the metaverse that you can digitally get them to be computerized into the metaverse and you're paying $10,000 just to have tea with your grandma again. You know? And is it, that's the question, is it your grandma or is it this weird- It would be like an avatar, it would be like a bitmoji of your grandma. That's why I think when people start getting plugged up in the later years 15 years like you're gonna be in like a computer like how willy wonka kid

that got zapped and he was in the tv like yeah that's what this is gonna be yeah i'm just playing oh sorry um yeah that's that's that's just what it's gonna be i feel just uh uh like how we can we have like five different emails so we don't get like hit with like scams and shit or like email scams. Like, you know, yeah. But like the next generation is going to have to deal with metaverse scams and web point and web point three scams like that. We did that.

We kind of knew on web point two, like, uh, when, I don't know if you see like a weird email and it says like, uh, you need to change your password on Facebook, but somebody's really trying to hack you. It's like, I'm not clicking that link. Like I'd already know what that is. But somebody like my mom clicks that link and then up, she just sent out a fucking dick pic to fucking her whole fucking, you know, coworkers and shit. But she didn't mean to. Like, it's just where you're going to, there's going to be a lot of people who live and learn. Do you think it's like the matrix

like is that where we're going i don't know man we're probably already in a matrix we just don't even know it man oh we are that's what i'm saying symbolically yeah that's what i'm saying like uh like everybody's story is already written you know and like maybe we just wake up and we are in a different story that we don't even like know that's what it it does feel like some things are just so like according to the plan feel like some things are just so like according to the plan yeah and like things are perfectly placed like there's so many things that worked out for like me and mrs favor to where like we were at the right place in the right time but it felt so weird that like how like one time we went to uh bam's house from jackass and um bam

margar yeah yeah and we were uh we were using his house for a music video spot and before it's in like westchester pa gotcha and uh before we went there we were going because he has like a skate park in his house huge skate park i'm talking like uh he has a code on his gate to where like local skaters can come type in the code and go skate type like he's that cool how big is this it's a big bro like i'm i'm at least like half a football field or if not like in his house no no it's outside but apart from the house but it's big it's and it's like fenced in so you got to put in the code nah like he has his house fenced in but i'm saying like uh like he has a thing on the i'm sure you could probably look it up yeah yeah i'll pull it up but um, so we went there and talk about perfect place, perfect timing.

And this guy, Joe, we call him Joey Goosecock. And he's a mechanic. He has his own body shop and shit. And we're about to go on tour. But before we agreed to these guys going on the tour, we didn't have a way of getting on tour. So we were like, fuck, we need a bus. Like, how are we going to find a school bus or whatever to go on tour, bro were like fuck we need a bus like how are we gonna find a school bus or whatever to go on tour bro that's gonna be crazy expensive so we go to fucking

bam's house meet this guy joe who's skating there he's like bro i'm a mechanic i got buses i got jet skis i got boats i got whatever you need i'm like holy shit this is crazy he fucking hooks us up with the bus we go to there we sleep over at the shop for like a week we're taking out the seats sawing them off he's paying his workers daily wage just to work on our bus like it was it was fire and um this is positive shit though yeah like this is where this is where like life lines up and like you put yourself in the moment and then like yeah this thing i'm just it's like you know it's just crazy like i feel like it happens with the negative shit, though, too. No, it definitely does. It's not spontaneous. I feel like the negative shit is people that come into your life that you need to detect.

Are you negative or are you going to help me in life? Sure, sure. I'm talking about something different, though. I'm talking about the original thing you were saying before this. Just perfect place, perfect timing? No. Yes, yes, but for bad. It almost feels like when you see

a covet happening like too good to be true you're saying no no no i'm going off the positive i'm going straight down the negative hole yeah i know that's what i'm saying i'm saying like true isn't that negative no it feels like how do i want to say this it feels like this thing happened and then that thing did and there's like people like puppets on a string making sure it keeps on going in order. It's not like just, oh, the universe put this guy right here and now we're talking and like we're doing business together. And now it's more like, oh, no, like they simulated this shit. This whole like we're going in the metaverse. Who eats at Arby's?

Who eats at Arby's? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like they're like. You're all over the place. Yeah, I told you, bro. You're keeping me on my toes. I told you Iby's? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, they're like... You're all over the place. Yeah, I told you, bro. You're keeping me on my toes. I told you I am, bro. Like, that's what I'm saying.

Like, you're saying putting shit there. Like, who the fuck eats at Arby's? I haven't been to an Arby's since the Vietnam War. That shit is made for, like, drug companies or some crazy shit. Just to collect, dog. Like, who shops at a mattress firm? Like, they got all these mattresses sleeping and shit like bro they got huge ass drug rings or some crazy shit who the fuck is going out

and shopping for a mattress at these mattress firms i'm sponsored by a mattress company are you really i swear to god do they have not like that it's all online it's a it's a tech company they put a fucking robot on your mattress you know it's pretty wild shit maybe yeah maybe that's it maybe they're like roboting us up during our sleep i'm fucking telling you man i don't think eight sleeps doing that by the way i love you guys but just saying yeah no i understand what you're saying with that it's just like it feels like too you did say too good to be true i'll say too bad to be true on some stuff where it's like no this doesn't all happen without people pulling the strings and making this stuff happen i'm not saying that with like

covid and whatever but yeah i worry about like in the future like look at what this has done to us what happens when you know countries are using biological warfare on people yeah i don't not in a virus or whatever the fuck like they make something new and it's wild. I think this is all a test to see what a warfare on a virus could be like. Other countries can be preparing for something more serious or something way more lethal that is this. Just when 9-11 happened like Like securities revamped up like crazy. You know like I used to go. I remember my dad Went to st. Martin, and I went with him and after we came back He brought home like a diamondback turtle in his pocket in like a Marlboro cigarette case and like if you went through security with that. Wait, like a baby turtle? Yeah, a diamondback.

Yeah, I named it Jaws. It died though. It was nice while it lasted. We ain't here for a long time. Just a good time, baby. That's it. Did he die in the cigarette box? No, no, no.

He died in Jersey. He died in Jersey. He died on his feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. True, true turtle. So this is pre-9-11 though, you're saying? Yeah, pre-9-11.

This is when I was very young and stuff, but I'm saying like like things need to happen for there to be a real change you know like you can tell people wash your hands but then covid comes and then like now you really want to wash your hands so like it's it's just it's just weird and it doesn't always have to just be people plan something out and then made a disaster happen and then that's what did and it doesn't always have to just be people plan something out and then made a disaster happen and then that's what did it it can also be people take advantage of shit when it comes like oh this is now we've always wanted to do this this is now a huge opportunity like 9-11

you know there's people out there who are like oh it was an inside job i don't believe any of that shit i think that's crazy but yeah did they take advantage of that with like the patriot act and then everything they did to people and and how they took away everyone's privacy without them even noticing because they put it in a 10 000 page piece of legislation on a tuesday that's what i'm saying yeah they did that's what i'm saying they did that's a fact they did that no i know but then they they've released it to you and act like we told you but you're not reading 10 pages of this shit, so you're not really going to know. But then some smart guy from fucking Alaska is like,

nah, man, this is bullshit, bro. I can't believe y'all are doing this. But you don't have enough people with them saying like, yeah, you're right, bro. You just got all these other people being like, it's all good, bro. They have my information, whatever. I don't even know about it. People just, I think a lot of people are cool with shit that they also don't know like if you

don't know that your privacy is in in breach are you really going to be concerned no or if you don't know you don't care yeah that too like i like you know people share my number and my email that like you know if i sign up for something it's like i can't really do anything about it i know that they're gonna lie and say they're protecting my info when I know that's a lie. You know what I'm saying? With what? Yeah. Security guard outside.

And everything's all money. Everything's all money. Your information is money to somebody else, to a company. Like I said, for the solar shit, we were paying a company from India to find people in America that wanted solar. And if we had like an appointment set up, we would pay them an additional fee for giving us that person that would have been more inclined to getting solar. It's like everything's money. It's fine. Everything in the world is follow the money. My guy, Jim DeOrio, special agent Jim DeOrio. Yeah. I hear He talks about that. Yeah. It's everything.

It sucks. And it's also awesome because when you got money, that's real freedom. You can do whatever the fuck you want when you got mad money. I always wonder about that, though, because, like, you know, you talk about, like, Bill Gates and stuff like that. Bill Gates is probably, like, talking to, like, a computer every time he wakes up, like, waking up and having, like, good morning, Bill. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's fuck you money, and a lot of people have it i i'm always curious though about like the people who get it and just like live in their house with you know a hot wife and enjoy the night go out and have dinner somewhere and have a good time and like are down to relax

versus the people who get it and then they're like oh let me take over i feel like maybe there's people that have money and that can actually do something with the money like you know elon you know to where like it's not where i'm just going to be like dan balzerian and show you spending my money with all these hot girls and like i'm just not really doing anything i'm making you jealous or making you wish you had this life like elon is like saying i got all this money and i want to help civilization yeah i want us to either go on mars or i want us to you know uh be smarter with this chip or you know i want you know tesla to rule the world like whatever it is like it's um i think it's within your your own mission too as a person and whatever money you have that whatever you want to do with it and he's supposedly using it for like the good and stuff too right i would i would say it's good

i don't i don't really know a lot about him um i'm a fan i mean he's i mean you can see i'm i'm a fan i i fuck with it i think also you know stuff that's gonna like just because we're all over the place we can call this an all over the place episode because we're all over the place, we can call this an all over the place episode because we're all over the place. This is a great way to end the year, last episode of the year. Yeah, definitely. All over the place. Tesla, I can see that company branching off into a smaller company that can take over Uber and be like, fuck having drivers. And we'll have this company that picks you up, takes you home. And then now if you got where you're paying Tesla every day to get to work and self-drive you here and there or whatever, places like insurance companies are going to go bankrupt and add a fucking poof. And then I also think shit like Airbnb is going to take over hotels and shit and make them fucking go poof.

And it's just a lot of shit. And now with crypto and all, banks are going to be poof soon because you can put 30 Gs into an account when your little baby is fucking one and then when she's 30, you got $30 worth of interest. Thanks for the sandwich, dad. You know what I'm saying? I can put $50 into crypto when Bitcoin is at a cent and now I got $50 billion. It's just wild.

It's wild. And you have to see like how stuff lasts and like with crypto there's a lot of bullshit out there there is there's a lot of you got to know your shit you gotta separate the same with these nfts like i got bots non-stop hitting me up saying like oh i know you're interested in this nft project and it's like the same like you know like it's like kindergartner drawings and like, like it's just all the same. And the bad thing about it is, like I said, we will know the difference because we already know a little bit about NFTs and crypto, but somebody who's getting new into it, like if I were to tell like my, I don't know, my 14 year

old cousin that doesn't know nothing about crypto. And then now he sees like this new project that came out and sees that, I don't know, Soulja Boy got paid to shout it out on Instagram. He's now like, I'm inclined to buy it because Soulja Boy talked about it. Yeah. Or like, you know, you got all these celebrities just using their clout as like, I'm going to build this NFT community when really you're just like, you're selling it because you know your artistry is going to sell it, not because you have just like you're selling it because you know your artistry is going to sell it not because you have an actual dope community behind it so there there is a lot where

people are seeing through that now still at this point but yeah there's not the name names but you're seeing projects where it's clearly just a cash grab from someone who's got 10 million on instagram you know and the whole thing about like people out there being paid to promote it that's that sits so wrong with me like if this were regulated like this i know i know imagine that bro i know i know dudes that make their own coin and have people and pay them to promote their own coin and then that's dangerous that's a rug pool yeah it's it's not just a rug pool though like stuff and i make rugs stuff stuff like that though is gonna be like

the way i try to look at it is okay if this isn't a law right now if the government wants to make a case at some point could they find a way to do it? If that answer in the back of your head is yes, it's probably going to be a yes, right? And it's not going to matter what the law is. Yeah, all they – like I feel like it's going to be how like the 401ks are, how they're like a scam. And, you know, like cool, you can have your $500,000 or you can have – let's say you got a couple mil saved in the 401k. And then when you want to take that out, you have to pay like close to 50%. Well, giving them 50% just for you holding it type shit.

You're paying. So, and I'll separate the two. There's two things that can happen. You can take it out too early where you're not allowed to. And you get penalized. And you get penalized 10% on top right away. Yeah. Where you're not allowed to and you get penalized and you get penalized 10% on top right away Yeah, the other one though is like when you do take it out you pay your income bracket at the time So it gets taken out as your income I guess the best my best argument for that in defense and I'm not a guy who defends systems But if I were being an unbiased party

When you put the money into the 401k you don't get taxed on it, right? And if you didn't have it in there, you don't get taxed on it, right? And if you didn't have it in there, you would be getting taxed on it. So then they say, well, you put it in now when you're 35 years old and you're in the 35% tax bracket, and you'll get to take it out when you're 65, and now you're only in the 20% tax bracket. And it grew tax-free that whole time. I guess I get that.

But the rat race of it, of like, oh, well, this is why you go get a job somewhere, and then this incentivizes you to stay here because we're gonna give you an extra 2% on that and don't worry When you're 65 man use it will match what you put a 100% that shit rubs me the wrong way Yeah, and it's like they can match that shit all day, but like what I do like Because I don't think why what the why what doesn't have a 401k does it they just give you stock i i know nothing you know nothing about wawa not their system i don't work there either or anything no i love wawa i don't know anything about yeah so i i know of this grandma who um she worked there long enough i think like from maybe early 20s and she got like two million in stock from wawa from over the years they're not they give out i'm sure you could look it up yeah they're not a public company right i don't

know they i just know like if you work there long enough you get a certain amount of stock employee stock i love wawa but i know nothing about this. Benefits and employee stock ownership. Oh, they have an ESOP plan. These are weird. I never ran one of these personally. There was one time I looked at business where there was really weird. Okay. Yeah.

So the way employee stock ownership plans, fuck. I'm going to totally botch how to explain this because, again, I never had to manage one of these myself I only ever looked at doing one yeah is it a scam it's it's weird in that or it keeps you there long enough that you think you're making money but you're like just giving them more your time I think so because what it does is they try to say it's exactly what the name labels there they try to then say as an employee you get a certain person like you're a part owner of this yeah exactly exactly and i look if i were a good person and i did it to the letter of the law of what it's meant up what it's meant to be set up to benefit yeah i'll bet there is a great

way to do it that's also fair to everyone but we all know that's in a free market that's not really what ends up happening. Hell no. I know nothing about Wawa, so I won't comment. But if you're talking about this lady, how long was she working there? Probably years, man. That's probably her career. To me, so is she like a woman working behind the cash register?

No, I think as you get promoted too, you probably earn more. Right, so she was working for corporate. No, yeah. She was working for wawa corporate yeah she was definitely like manager or you know like assistant or whatever she was up there but in the store so she's in this okay so she's in the store she's not a corporate so she's in the store wawa store i'm talking like she started out probably making hoagies and ended out with two mil i'd have to how long, and I'd have to do a full financial, you know, whatever.

No, I'm not saying it's worth it. I'm just saying. It could go either way. It's not like you get paid, and that's how you get paid from Wawa. That's just like, I think, an extra like, if you work at Wawa, this is what we do for our employees here.

You get to have the, what did you say it was, EPOS? ESOP. ESOP. ESOP. Employee Stock Ownership Plan. Yeah, so. it what did you what did you say it was epos esop esop yes please stock ownership plan yeah so that's what i think but i never worked at wawa i only i was a bag boy i i worked at this place called castles in margate and i was a bag boy and like castles yeah is that a restaurant no it's a it's a uh supermarket there's a supermarket called castles yeah it's not white castle nah it's just it's got a red castle it's got a red castle though it has where is that it's in margate yeah but where in margate uh i would say it's right on ventnor ave i'm a maynards guy

i never it's right right around there really yeah like uh you know where that wawa is of course near maynards where that wall is so if you you go up like 10 blocks, like if you're trying to go towards... Ventnor? Longport? Longport, you'll see Castles because it's next to, I don't know if you know Dino's Steaks. Never been there. I've heard of that, but I've never been. Yeah, that's where that's at.

And I used to be a bag boy there, man. That's where I got the nickname V-Bags. V-Bags? Yeah, V-Bags. They used to call me V-Bags in high school. Not high school and i'm sorry oh vinnie bags yeah vinnie bag of donuts that's it yeah vinnie bag of donuts that's like straight out yeah that's my boy rob vaselli he's still calling me bags he's a bag or he used to call

me sonny d but uh yeah i don't know why i brought up that old job we're talking about esop plans yeah so you didn't get an esop planet castle nah i definitely didn't yeah you didn't walk out of there we're stuck nah definitely not i didn't get none of that shit no i left on i left a lot of my jobs for real i just like quit i was just like you don't seem like the kind of guy that could stay doing something boring for very long hell no man i i'm like i gotta move or i'm dead like am i right about that yeah like bro i'm telling you. I remember one time, there used to be this guy in the Shore Mall who used to set up. Oh, my God.

Like the Shore Mall and the Ocean City Boardwalk? No, no, no, no, no, no. That's the Surf Mall. The one out in Hamilton? Yeah, Surf Mall. The one out in Hamilton. Not Hamilton. That's the Hamilton Mall.

The Shore Mall. I'm really fucked up right now. The Shore Mall is where like that one movie theater i think till the nine's at yes like the outback yes so i remember i used to go there with my mom and this guy would make candles there and the guy was like yo like do you do you need like a job and i was like um not really but sure like the candles. Like, I'll help you make them. I guess it looks cool putting my hand in the wax and shit. And I remember my mom went there and told me like,

all right, you're going to work for this guy. And I was like, all right, whatever, fuck it. I'll work for the candle guy. And I'm in there. She's going to Macy's doing her shopping. I was just doing it. I was like dipping the candles. Like, cause like,

I think I always like sign up for something that i think's like sick and then i start doing it i'm like fuck it's a lot of work man it's messy waxes get all over it's hot as hell um i'm like dipping it in and shit and i'm like fuck this shit man i just left you just walked out i i didn't even walk out it was one of those like things it's like you know in the middle of the mall they're like try this lotion try this you know like it's like you know what i'm talking about it's not like really like an official setup it's a kiosk yeah it's it's like some ikea built shit yeah and she walked away from the kiosk i walked away and like i guess this dude thought like he didn't know where i went because like i didn't tell him i was leaving i was just like you

know what like i don't think he's gonna care that i leave like how do you think he knows i'm here for real like i'm just gonna dip and i just dip and uh linked up with my mom i was like we gotta get out of here man i'm done with that candle thing there was a couple things i quit in life i quit swimming i remember the one dime i went into swimming the coach was like yo you guys gotta do like 2020s and and 2040s and i was like sick coach i got you i go on my lane i'm doing it i'm fucking doing the whatever fucking back pedal doggy paddle i'm fucking i'm like my arms and my legs are getting numb because i'm like viciously trying to swim and like act like i'm like keeping up with the rest of the team like you know i'm trying to be like i know what i'm doing guys when i don't this first time i'm trying to do swimming just

trying to do something new and as i'm swimming i'm like sinking and i had to hold on to like the the olympic you know how in the olympics they got those like uh lane dividers that float i had to hold on to that and like carry myself because we're in like 15 feet of water because it's deep. So you were just starting swimming. Yeah. And that was the first and last day I walked out. I was like, yo, ma, I ain't wearing this cap. These are tight ass shorts.

And I'm done. I quit. So you start your first day of swimming. He's telling you to do 20, 20 or 20, 25. Well, no, no. Like that was cool and all. He told me to do all that. But then like as I was dying in the process, he was like, that's just a warm-up, guys.

We're ready for actual practice. I got up. Fuck this culture now. I got up, and I just walked to the locker room and got changed. And I was like, I'm done, Mom. Pick me up. Swimming is a different beast. Yeah.

I did that. And then, the only other thing I quit, and I'm, like, super thankful, like, this worked out, was, like, the Army. You were in the army i wasn't in the army i almost got probably enlisted my mom was super like you should go to the military like it'll mold you your mom was doing that she was like she really wanted me to do it was this high school or college or what i was 17 so like before i could like make my own decision like my mom signed my life away type shit you

know what i'm saying like she was like you're gone i was like no like i had a decision also but like she also had like the deciding factor because i wasn't 18 your mom signed a paper when you were 17 that said you're gonna go i had a sergeant come to my house sergeant newton like i went to school with his son and he came to my house and I I was like playing Call of Duty I was like yo this is fun let's go and like you know um he's like all right like coming over all serious and he's like it turned out so different yeah you know I know that's what a lot of people say that's why I say I'm nuts I like having like a little gallery yeah no it's fun it's pretty funny and uh he takes me up the four dicks oh man i have to take this test

and i'm in four dicks like official like i'm not in no like fake shit like this is it and um i'm like signing in and as i'm getting processed i just see all like these like people that are in line like me and i'm just thinking to myself like i i gotta get the fuck out of here i can't do this shit there's no way in hell i'm looking at all these people. They don't even look like me. And you're still 17. Still 17 at the time. And now we have to go into this room. So now I feel like I'm in Men in Black

when they're like, only the best of the best of the best. And I'll be at my desk in my cubicle and I have to take this 400, 500 multiple choice shit. At first, when you first start school and you get the journal, you get all your school supplies and shit, you're like, i'm gonna write this so neat and i'm gonna take my time and like a day three three weeks in like you're sloppy everything's all over the place

so like five questions in i was like fuck this shit guessable choice like hey hey hey bbb i gotta get out of here i can't i can't do this shit like i don't i don't want to do this anymore what types of questions are we talking about here like it was it was just like, I don't really remember. A lot of it, like, had to do with just general shit because when you take that test, they want to position you into what job that they want to qualify you for. So, like, your interests almost. Yes. And they also just want to determine, like, should this guy be an engineer even though

he doesn't think he should be an engineer? Right. Should this guy be a pilot? So, it's like acuity testing as well. Yeah, it's like to see where you should be everything in one so after i do that guessable choice shit i'm like probably the first one out because i'm like done with this shit and i uh i tell the teacher i'm like i'm done and like they tell you your score right there oh no so i needed a 32 like i'm not saying a 32 was low. You just need a 32 to get in. At basic level, I got a 31.

I was going to say. I was waiting on the 31. I got a 31, bro. And were you like, nice. I was nice. I had sergeants. A sergeant was hitting me up like, yo, you want to retake the test? I was like, no, I'm good, bro.

Moving on. I'm going to start DJing, bro. And then that was that. You know what I'm saying? But you know what's crazy with the DJing stuff, with the Bravo Bravo, we implemented a lot of military sounds. So we used Call of Duty sounds. In the songs, you would hear just stuff from Call of Duty.

So I just thought that that – it's just wild. Anything I did, I felt just helped me to the next thing yeah you draw on experiences and memories and stuff like that too yeah in art it's especially yeah i love art it's a beautiful thing i think art is also just like whatever you want it to be too like you know like this cup is art yeah you know and like i could sell it for a million dollars it's just someone will buy it exactly you know that's the beauty about art like it's like that dude who put a fucking banana on duct tape at art basil and sold it for however much like i think that's and that's where like i love the rug shit like to be different about the

rugs like you can you can just make rugs and like be like the stanley steamer guy and like you know home carpet cleaner like or you can be like a louis vuitton of rugs and like provide like a a different style and way that you can showcase rugs to where you will pay that money if that money is uh being asked up and that's like it is it is a complete subjective matter like even with music there's a lot of people that made great music that you or i could go find no one ever listened to and maybe it's their fault because they didn't market it the right way or stopped or whatever but like you have to get people that will with it so like when people yell at the island boys who just started and going i'm an island boy

like i think it's fucking brain damaging don't get me wrong yeah but like whether or not people were laughing at them or thought it was absolutely stupid or not people then fucked with it for whatever that reason was and now boom you have a you have art right like? Like that. And you see in the movies, like old comedies and stuff, where they'll show people going to art galleries. And there's like someone put a pear on the floor or something like that. And they're like, look at how exquisite this is. It's stupid. But there's enough stupid people that happen to have a lot of money right there that are now paying a million dollars for the pear. I've never seen something like that before.

That's art. Boom. I want it. Or I want it because I don't want you to have it i want it you know like it's it's cool i love it it's cool but it can also get really weird you know because then you're like trying to figure out why do people value this yeah yeah and then you have like people act in certain ways and like i don't know being like oh this is all no you don't know what you're talking about i know all and uh yeah so that's why i love to just not know what i'm doing but to the full extent do whatever the fuck i want yeah because then that's how you live and you learn and also like you might do something how somebody else doesn't normally do it and you might create a new way by accident somebody else yeah you could do it by accident looking up to you or whatever and i think that's just the coolest part you know

like i i didn't want to start making rugs and like you know uh not disrespecting your rug carpet but like do this like i wanted to make like like art form and like be like you know uh not disrespecting your rug carpet but like do this like i wanted to make like like art form and like be like you know what you can have this on the wall or if you have a crazy idea and you want it into a mirror you can have it into a mirror you didn't see this really like sick artistic coffee stain over here yeah so i i dumped one of these and by dumped i mean i hit it with my elbow and now it's like i thought you were making your own art or something. Yeah, that is art. Fuck you for saying otherwise. Yeah.

You can probably sell that. I know exactly what you mean. It's got to be like something like you're making shit pop. You're doing something. You're like creating pictures. I don't even think I'm making it pop. I think I'm just having fun. I'm doing whatever the fuck I want to do.

And I'm showing people that they can do whatever the fuck they want to do. And you don't need to know everything about it to do it you figure it out along that's like i don't know how like i don't know how to explain how i make music you know what i'm saying like i don't like if someone were to be like yo like what's your process with making music i would be like like i don't know where to start i just smoke weed like i don't know what to say like that's a lot that's a lot of artists though too but a lot of artists probably do have a uh some have a process but a lot of them are like that yeah a lot of them are like i don't know how it just i just feel like anything i do is just like it's it's on the whim it's it's on the fly i don't want to think about it because then i don't want it to be corny i look like it's

skidded or like you know i just want to speak my mind and that's why i like this podcast is going to be all over the place yeah i think i'm going to call this like the seinfeld episode yeah i'm with it it's about everything but nothing yes it's literally all the same time there were a couple times where you like said something i'm like that is not what we were talking about but let's go with it yeah no there i i knew it the whole time i was like uh i don't know what else to talk about but i'm just gonna throw this in there boom we have we have something else now this but that's like we we definitely need to revisit too in 2022 i want to see if we can possibly get me and ms here so we can really like go in depth with some better stories and stuff like that because i know um i do a terrible explanating i mean explaining job i can't fucking speak i do a terrible job

smoked yet dude i didn't i didn't i was trying to smoke on the way here but i can't fucking speak i do a terrible job i didn't i didn't i was trying to smoke on the way here but i didn't want to i didn't want to smell yeah we'll do we'll do that eventually i was talking with your guy carson shout out money cars yeah uh a few months ago where he was like well could we get both of them in and i'm like listen i want to do content where i have three and i'm not just talking about like you sitting here brie off off mic but like i want to do content where we have three people like two people across from me and everything and i could do it now like i could get the extra camera and go for that my thing is i want to get a little bigger so that i feel a lot better about telling people

to off when inevitably every single person has to come in here is like oh let's bring in another person and it's like well no no like I'm gonna do a lot of one-on-ones and then once every 10 episodes or once every 15 episodes we'll do a by three person type thing not yet and we'll get and do that within time bro yeah totally I'm just saying saying for a better explanation. Here we go. I invent words, too. It's okay. I do it all the time. I told you, man. I'm fucking crazy today.

But yeah, we'll have a nicer music-related podcast with both of us on, but it's cool with this. But that spontaneity thing, though, is like it makes a lot of sense for you, especially because like you were talking about, you don't want to be the guy that's known as like oh we're just the new beastie boys or something we're just doing what they did you're not man like it reminds me of those types of sounds it takes me back to that era but you are doing this in like the modern era in a modern way and that's why it's so unique and i think if you were sitting there quote unquote like planning it out well we're gonna make this type of song and then that

type of one because this guy did that no like if you did that it wouldn't work and you'd be making something that was that knockoff travis scott or whatever it is this is like i i almost think that there's not the audience you're you're there before the audience is like they don't know that they want this yet but i can see like for the east coast stomp like i can see people fucking stomping on the dance floor we just we just what it is too is i think what we do we have a huge shock value to when uh like you might be concerned or you might be like i don't i don't know. These guys are getting on stage. This guy's wearing overalls and a crazy-ass outfit and shit. He looks like he's fucking smacked.

Oh, this guy. Other guy, Mizzy, is wearing a grandpa hat. And he's wearing a 70s-looking robe dress thing. He's like, what is this going to be? What's going on here? And then all of a sudden, boom, you get just hit with with it and then you're an instant fan if you like that music i'm not saying everybody who plays a little twin mizzy coke song is automatically no no fan because we definitely have non-fans and people that don't like our music and that's totally cool there's

no music there's almost almost i should say no music that's like that everybody likes yeah even people like drake drake has people who hate his music yeah you know i mean like i also think people probably just also hate on drake because it's like uh let me see how many tweets i can get yeah you know just like the fuck russ thing absolutely i'm saying like in general though there are some people who don't like hate them but they're just like that's not my kind of 100 you know so like it's always you're never gonna land on everyone but like when you're doing events and stuff and performing with different acts and things like that you know people are there to see different people are you gonna do something that at least like in person people are like damn these guys i just know when anybody watches us they're never gonna see something like us because of the amount of energy we bring and just how hard hitting the songs are to like an older generation of people who understand that music.

I'd say I'd agree with the second part because like and your energy is amazing. But there are people in the world who are fucking crazy great performers. But what do they do? Like what is that? What is their music do to you? Your music does something to people because it takes you back. But it's also like, well, wait, no, this is 2021. Yeah, it's like Back to the Future.

Yeah. It's wild. It's wild. It's very cool. And, like, I think we were touching on this at some point. I don't know. But that whole, like, following previous patterns and generations, this whole pop culture movement of the early 90s rising again now you're i think you guys are provided you put out your music and everything i want to see you

guys put out more like what you got built up but like i think you guys can catch that wave big time oh bro i think we're gonna make the wave and then i'm gonna surf on it and then i'm gonna crash it into the shore and chill on my island. But before all that. Are you coming? I hope so. Yeah, we'll make a rug for the island. She'll make the rug. We'll make a rug for the island.

And I just think we'll just get better with time, you know, like find wine. Just need some time. Yeah. And I make wine too. My pops makes wine. No, you don't. Homemade wine. Yeah.

Come on. I'll bring you a bottle next time. You making toilet wine? No, real wine. You make a real wine? Real wine. You stepping on makes wine. Homemade wine. Yeah. Come on. I'll bring you a bottle next time. Come on. You making toilet wine? No. Real wine. You make a real wine. Real wine. You stepping on the grapes and everything?

Yeah. No shit. I'm talking about like barrels as big as this table. No, this is cool because I know fucking nothing about this. Yeah. How do you go about like- Again, like- Do you curate certain grapes?

Here we go. Here we go. You can't explain it. I can't explain shit. I can't explain shit. I can't explain shit, but I'll tell you. I make wine. So like grapes, crush it or whatever. Put them in another bucket.

You let it sit. You put some yeast in there maybe. Let it ferment, bubble all up. Yeah, add some yeast. It cooks it. I've heard that before. Cooks it, quote unquote. And then, like I said, time.

You just bottle it up. You put it in barrels siphon it like you're trying to steal gas like everybody is now because it's so expensive oh oh oh god i thought you were talking about my bad i just always throw jokes i'm terrible um and uh yeah i have like a basement in my house and uh it's like four feet, so you got to kind of crawl, like hunch over like Notre Dame. And we just have different flavors. So if you have different grapes and different flavors for each grapes, and I think – So you are curating different grapes. Yeah.

We have white wine too. So that's – That's a whole different process, right? Same process, just different colored grapes since it's not like red or, you know, like the whatever. It's not a different timing though too because like you know how white wine, it doesn't matter what age it is technically and all that? I would probably ask my dad for real. He's like the genius behind it. He knows that shit.

He is trying to teach me how to do it because he learned it from his father and done it with his dad at their house in their basement and now he's brought it here dad from philly south philly interesting yeah he used to have a butcher shop too on like 13th and market or ninth and market or something called savage yeah he has like the old school meat slicer at the house and everything he made some mean ass roast beef that's so cool what kind of grill you guys got kind of grill yeah you got like one of those big industrial? No, no, no, no, no. We ain't going to do that. Oh, you didn't do that yet?

I didn't do that. I love the grill, though. I love grill cooking in the summer and like cooking up some shrimp with some crazy sauces. I'm like a sauce boss guy. Like I need all the sauce. Shout out Jewish sauce boss, but. Shout out Jewish sauce boss, baby. I need all the sauce.

Like, you know? You need that kind of sauce. Well, I love that kind of sauce every day. But I'm saying in general, I love saucy wings. I'm talking saucy. If you got some dry wings and you don't got some sauce on them, I want to dip the celery in the sauce that is from the wings. That's how good the wings got to be.

Saucy. You need the full experience. Yeah, my bad. We getting carried away with the wings. No how that's how good the wings gotta be saucy you you need you need the full experience yeah my bad we getting carried away with no no it's just my mind i'm just hungry as hell too is this wine good this is wine well i'm a white wine person is the white wine good i've actually had a cup of the red and i did like it it's strong percentage-wise too it's like 27 yeah it gets you smacked i was stealing that when I was young all the time. Shut up. Did you just say 27%?

I'm 26. 27%. It's red wine. Yeah, 27. I told you I'd bring you a bottle. Yeah, that's all it's going to take. Bro, not even a bottle. A glass.

A glass. 27%. What are you cooking? Fucking Atlantic City moonshine? I don't know. It's just that pond wine it's that pop shit it's pops i'm skeptical now 27 he tested it before is that there's like a way to i mean anything that we're doing is definitely not legal

it's not fda approved or any of that but everybody loves it they come back for more and it's it's made a sign a waiver when I buy it no not that one not that one just the show is just the show is 27 yeah 27. I lived in Italy when I was a junior in college and damn that's love I've never been to Italy I got like 30 family members I don't even know how in Italy they probably got their own village Naples oh a good area interesting area I think it's North right no it's like Naples is... Like north-south? No, it's the bottom third.

Yeah, it's the bottom third. So like Rome is more centrally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Naples, I forget how many hours Naples is from Rome. I see it on the map. Where were you at? I was living in Rome. Sick.

And then I was all over the place, and I had some family over there too in two different regions, which was really cool. Yeah, my great... What would you call somebody who's your grandmom's sister great or it's like great aunt great aunt right or something yeah yeah so she owns like a whole like olive farm no shit yeah that's what my family does makes her own olive oil brings it back crazy shit it's and you know what in this country you really can't get real olive oil no because they're like you can't even get real honey over here the only honey's like fake the only olive oil that's good from there is like in italy is

like when you get it straight from the source like someone just brought it in from outside after making it because like the mob and the mafia in italy still owns all that shit they fucking water it down and everything companies that have nothing to do with it or whatever just american companies they just put random shit in there it's it's not it's all money like it's you get the taste you don't get the real product when you have olive oil from like italy like from there you're like what the fuck oh my god oh yeah it's incredible Italian culture is awesome

I really really appreciate it honestly I wish I spoke it though my mom can speak it I can't I could speak it when I was there and I can't now at all you really do does that like haunt you? It doesn't haunt me, but, like, it sucks.

Like, I got it. And I wasn't, like, I wasn't sitting there, you know, giving a fucking public speech. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I very much could understand it completely. So you can still understand, though, then? I can, but now I have to translate it in my head. Yeah. Like, as they're saying it, which, you know, if you're doing that at full speed yeah like holding the conversation when i was there i could at least i there was a little

bit translating going on but like i could understand exactly what they were talking about and reply and i could i could reply pretty well also my italian teacher was very hot so that helped yeah i had miss cat from ocean city like i i like failed like man at one time i was in high school my mom this is why my mom switched me out of schools from uh atlantic city to ocean city i failed every class in atlantic city high school including gym that's hard to do it wasn't hard for gym though because like they made you like get dressed and if you didn't like because we had to wear uniforms because uh in atlantic city like uh they wanted everybody to wear uniforms they didn't like, cause we had to wear uniforms cause, uh, in Atlantic city, like, uh, they wanted everybody to wear uniforms. They didn't want public clothing.

So we had to wear a uniform. And if you didn't change out of your uniform into your gym clothes, you would, uh, like, you know, like get 50% because you didn't get changed. Cause you didn't like pack your clothes or something. Yeah. And like, you know, like me being like 15 or something, I forget my gym clothes every day or something like i'm not like it's just a hassle man like i already have to like go through a metal detector and shit and i remember that and wait in line yeah and like um god forbid if i don't have my id on me people think like you know

i'm trying to cross the border and i have to go sit in iss if i don't have my id on me it was just wild but um yeah I failed every class. And that's why my mom was like, you're moving with your auntie and auntie up in L.A. Ocean City. I was like, sick. I'm going with Uncle Ant, man. And then I went there. And that was Ocean City High School, man.

It was beautiful. But Ocean City's got some problems for sure. Yeah, everywhere it does. Everywhere it does. Atlantic City sounded interesting, though. I had a friend who went there, too. Atlantic City, high school was fire. I didn't know they had the uniforms, though.

Yeah, uniforms. I don't know if that was because they didn't want, like, gangs wearing colors at school, or if it was just because they wanted everybody to, like, you know, just have, like, free things. Pull that mic down. I'm sorry, but I got to make sure you're talking into it. I'm sorry. I need that voice, right? Sorry, sorry. Hear how crisp that is when you're talking into it? You're right, you're right, you're that mic i'm sorry but i gotta make sure you're talking i'm sorry i need that voice right here you're right you're right you're right you're right i'm sorry i up with the mics um but yeah i don't know why that was with um the uniform thing but i when i was

in catholic school i had to do uniforms too oh you went to catholic school as well yeah when i went i was uh i went to blessed sacrament and uhate, and then that thing got knocked down. We didn't even have principals. We had nuns. They had the rulers. They had the rulers. I had this one teacher in third grade. She told my mom,

your son will be a great car salesman because he's a bullshitter. I was like, damn. Everybody's harsh on the kid. A lot of people, too, always told my mom like at parent teacher conferences like your son's so smart like he just doesn't apply himself like why you're dude i and i can tell just talk with you and like you're creative man you can't be here here you gotta be all bro i'm telling you i'm a i'm a fly like fly lands like here and then it goes there, and then here, and then there, and there,

and it comes back here again, and then goes there. Yeah, you got some ADHD. I love it. I don't even think I do, though. I think you do. 100%. I got tested for it. Really?

Yeah. You don't have it? My mom took me to doctors. A lot of creatives have ADHD. My mom took me to doctors and all that shit, bro. What I found out, too— Were they the lying type of doctors? I don't know.

I don't know, because I went out to another doctor. I think Bree think pre agrees no i don't know i'm telling you i really don't think i have it but because like i've seen other people that had adhd and it made me look like normal like introduce me to those people i will i really will but i'm telling you and um fuck what was i gonna say you were at the catholic school the nuns were saying you should be a used car salesman the doctor oh yeah so like when i went to the doctor the second time like when i'm older he goes yo you got celiac and i'm like fuck that has nothing to do with it but still no it has no that's what i'm saying i didn't want to have it to do with anything i'm just saying what is that what does that mean you can't eat that's like a lot of shit, right? Yeah

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What happens when you have wheat. I don't even know Benadryl. What happens when you have wheat? I don't even know. Cause like, it's not like I'm lactose intolerant to where like, uh, people just like shit or have like an upset stomach. Like, I think it wasn't making me gain weight or have the proper nutrients like in my body when I eat food. Like I wasn't gaining the nutrients from the food that i should have if it was like a wheat product and uh i feel like it was making me have like brain fog i feel like i was like um like losing hair uh like just like wild and then when i went and i got blood work he was like yo like you have celiac like you should take it serious and like change your diet and like uh it's not something that's gonna like you know change in two weeks like you should take it serious and like change your diet and like uh it's not something

that's gonna like you know change in two weeks like it'll take like a year or two to like heal your intestines from damaging them and i don't even know how long i had it because i diagnosed myself a year ago i could have had it for five i could have had it since i was 16 sure i was i was like i was just i never wanted to get blood work you can be born with yeah yeah but i was i was born with anemia my mom's anemic and what does that mean that's just like red blood cells low iron like you're just like weak feel like you're gonna like pass out all the time shit like that um and like so much shit that can go wrong but that's like an italian thing too a lot of italians have that uh low iron deficient what is it different deficiency deficiency yeah i'm terrible that's why you're here yeah it's just

a lot of talking yeah this is this is actually my first podcast really first podcast it's not gonna be your last no it's definitely not i can i can see having something for sure that'll be another day. But, um, yeah, this is awesome. I love what you do. I love watching the videos that you do. I can't wait to see what you do and what images you add for me. Yeah.

And you know, I do it over time too. Like I still have, I still have episodes in that you haven't edited in the fifties. I haven't made a piece of content in the fifties. Yeah. And like the 50 numbers of episodes i was like dog like how old are you this is number eight

yo yo you got the annie milanakis like you're gonna be episode 80 so i have one i have ones from that's a good number seven months yeah it's a great number i have ones from like seven months ago i haven't even touched yet you know so like there's a lot that happens in here like when we're talking about shit that's happening right now you know yeah that's more stuff you want to make good timing for that but then yeah there's other ones where it's like i can go back and look especially like as i get to a point where i can so like i know my one guy will toms he had an amazing episode in here number 67 did an incredible job and he talked about like a whole

bunch of like like he's a pure creative type so he runs that place wreck philly he found it yeah yeah yeah yeah so he had like all kinds of great like imagery i don't really know how to explain it but like that's uh the guy with the glasses the white kid no no no black guy wore the hat okay there's somebody else from right where the hat like kind of over who what's the name David Siller yeah I think I know I don't know him but this was this was he was on the news the other day I think your buddy might have been on the news probably if he's involved with them yeah I know Will founded this with his one buddy and i don't remember his buddy's name maybe it was him i don't know but he was like he had a lot of content quote unquote within there where he was talking about things that are like imagery based so like he was talking

about how ben franklin affected his life because ben franklin invented the row home and then i'm not even gonna repeat like how he i'll misquote it, but he had this unbelievable bar dropper on there. And so I wasn't, I'm still not, I might be getting there now where I'm at a point where that kind of clip I can make and they'll send it to people who are going to appreciate it. Whereas there's content that it's like, if I make something that's a story about something that was like a criminal case right now they're sending that everywhere you know so we talk about so much in here that i look at some episodes and i'm like all right the audience is growing we're going to be able to touch that one now in like a week or two and it's going to get an audience and that's how i feel with the music because i'm like yo bro like we we might have this song that we feel like we got a release but it's like well what if we hold on to it and we might have a different way we feel like we got a release but it's like well what if we hold on

to it and we might have a different way to pitch it because when me and miz first linked up we didn't know that we wanted to be a group like we're two gemini's he's born on june 16th i'm june 6 like 10 days apart like so many weird things that uh characteristics that we have in common and um we both wanted to be like a solo thing because we both felt like we're both good at what we can do. Why would we need somebody else to like carry weight or like potentially ruin

what we're trying to build? And then at the end of the day, after enough time went by, we were like, fuck it, bro. This gotta be a group. Like, we're killing it. You guys play off each other very well. And it's, and it's where also to like,

we didn't want to come up with a name at first because we felt like little twin X, Mizzy Coke was good enough. But then we're like, fuck. Like then one day we were like sitting in my, in my studio. I have like this, um,

I have like, just, you would love it. I have just fucking pictures and pictures all over the studio, like surrounded by like war propaganda shit. I got like little collages of like the cool shows that me and Miz done over the years and whatnot. And then I have the actual booth of the studio. But like I have mad stickers on my door too.

And I remember I was like, bro, like we like a a label or like an umbrella type of name that like we can rep and that we can have everybody else rep and be a part of so it's not just like little twin and Mizzy coke like like how Wiz Khalifa got like Taylor Gang like you might not like Wiz Khalifa but you might like Taylor Gang sure so I wanted to make this thing called no thanks and like basically I made it because everybody who said no to us, everybody who said fuck y'all, fuck you, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to have this No Thanks thing. Are you guys doing that now? Yeah, that's what the Instagram is.

It's No Thanks. That's genius. Yeah, and that's what we created. And we wanted to roll out and wait, but in 2022, me and Miz are going to joint run my instagram account and like just come up with content that is created towards the brand of the no thanks thing because now we already we already solidified the who little 20 mizzy coke are now we need to get everybody on the no thanks wave i was gonna it's funny you said this i was gonna ask you about this

off air afterwards just like talk because i i love talking with people like how they're branding stuff and things like that. Yeah, ask me anything, bro. I think that that, I mean, you just filled in all the blanks. I think that's exactly what you have to do. Because people like simplicity inherently. They don't know it, but they like it. Yeah. If it's memorable, they like it.

Lil' Twin X Mizzy Coke has several things going on. Hell yeah. It's got two names. You don't know if it's a group. You don't know if it's a band. You don't know if it's on hell yeah you don't you don't know you don't know if it's a group you don't know if it's a band you don't know if it's a dude and his dog like two names two things in there that aren't even real words the x is like a is it at times is it an actual x if someone can't spell it out in their head the first time you have two ends in your name yeah it's like even with trend of fire that's a long story like how i ended up with that name and i didn't like it's whatever, but it goes against

everything I believe in. It's four syllables. It's two different words put together. It's fucking terrible. It's not simple, right? Now people kind of like it, and I'm rolling with it, but I've learned to like it like a red-headed stepchild. For you guys, to do something like no thanks, you hear that once, done.

People are like, oh, that's no thanks. And it's one of those things that somebody else would be like, damn, I could have thought of that, because it's so like oh that's no thanks and it's one of those things that like somebody else would be like damn i could have thought of that because it's like it's like so like simple yes you know it's no thanks people say that all the time like no thanks exactly that ain't us or yeah or it's like uh you know we can make it into a rebel name yeah it's like it's it's a movement it's like no thanks to that like being told you know you can't do this or no thanks to being told you can't do whatever you want or you can't be whoever you want to be like being told you know you can't do this or no thanks to being told you can't do whatever you want or you can't be whoever you want to be like you can do whatever you want you know and and no thanks like it's just uh i think it's a good it's a good umbrella for us

it's a good genius don't ever change that no i'll scream at you if you fucking change i can't bro i'm telling you i came up with a very long time ago, like before we were like wrapping. Yeah, you got to start branding that immediately. I was like, yo, we got to do it. No thanks. That is spot on. We got it trademarked like 2019. Oh, you got it trademarked and everything.

Yeah, we got the LLC for it and everything in 2019. No shit. All this has just been like a waiting thing. And that's why I said like, you you know 2019 came up with no thanks and then like a year or two years later we're calling ourselves no thanks like it's like all these things come up and they make it like what it is and that's why i think like this this is just wow this journey of music is wild i meet awesome people you know um like uh for example i just want to keep it on point with the people you had on here like

mason and dill like i met them through music you know what i'm saying like not saying i wouldn't have met them if it wasn't for music but specifically because of music i met them and and by the way and this is like the coolest part i've met your partner mizzy coke but like you mason and dill are all completely different people yeah holy and yet you guys are all boys you guys all make music in the studio all the time together like because that's all we connect on yeah you know like that's like that's like our like uh our vibe like we we know how to communicate without talking when we're in the studio because you just put a beat on and everybody's talking the same language it's either yo this beats it or no next one next one jimmy wings put on the next one shout out jimmy wings he's an engineer at

breed and um it's just all a learning experience and i what i need to learn more is to just um really get out my comfort zone and do these dumb ass like reels on instagram and fucking tiktoks and like show different parts of myself that people don't normally see because like i'm sure brie can tell you like i'm a funny ass dude like yeah i need to tell me and i i do like i like i like have like i like i like make up characters all the time and like I like what kinds of characters I can just change my voice like how like I change my voice in like songs like you know I'm saying like I can't do it now because I'm on the spot but like the green the Santa Maria you know I'm saying like I'm like hey Peter's your neighbor you know I'm saying I can just do

whatever like whatever it is I that wasn't a good one but you know I'm saying like I can I can just like I just want to be like Jim Carrey in this music shit. Like Jim Carrey has like the faces and like he, he got like, yeah, that's why he landed. That's why he landed roles like the Grinch and the mask. Like if you see anybody else do those roles,

they wouldn't kill them like he did because he has certain characteristics to his personality that make that shit stand out. And that's what i feel i provide is like i got this dope voice and i have like this like this charisma that like i just bring to the table that like is just different it's not what you normally see and especially in the hip-hop thing and like how i'm all like bubbly and not like talking about tough and jail and drugs or shooting people like it's just like you're fun exactly yeah like i just want to have fun i want everybody else to have fun and like i'm not putting on your music when i i shouldn't say there's a couple songs i would but not for that reason it's not like if i'm putting on like if you're about to fight somebody or

something yeah if i'm putting on like a hard playlist for the gym and i'm putting on like till i collapse by eminem bro i'm not putting your get out my fucking head i'm not bro i just said in my head yo like i was gonna like interrupt you but i was like i can't he's about to talk and then i was gonna say like yo like it's like putting on a song in the gym till i collapse like i gotta get the fuck out of here dog that's what i'm saying like that's not that is not your lane at all like you're like that song makes you go like oh yeah it's like Yeah, it's like, yo, 40? Nah, 60. You're more like, all right, yeah, pass the joint.

Let's roll. Yeah, exactly. Let's have fun. We're jumping around having a good time. 100%, man. And I think that's just the beauty of it, you know? You don't know what it is until it's done. There's a lot of testosterone in here today.

I'm really sorry. I know. You're like in this. This is my first time having this, and you're like sitting in here in the little cramped area she's making me laugh every time she's trying not to laugh yeah you gotta actually like see you guys have eye contact going on i see i see what she's doing yeah she's making me laugh she's making me feel like i'm saying something stupid wait you haven't been sitting back there going cut this whole time all right yeah no yeah she's good i kick you out if you were doing that yeah i want them to keep

going yeah um where are we just rambling off to we were talking about that your type of music like you wouldn't do after till i collapse at all yeah yeah um yeah it's it's not like it's it's just like it's like it's a breath of fresh air to me. And like this is a cool thing about doing this too. Yeah. And I want to say this. Let's go. I often – I'm a big New Jersey guy.

Obviously, you are too. But like I've often believed, especially over the last couple of years, there's some special shit happening in Jersey, right? And I've lived all up and down this state for my whole life and i love it but like when i when i see people like what you guys were doing and i and i'm like wow that doesn't they're not big yet they're like on the come up here and i'm like that's different and i fucking love it and i think other people will too the idea that like i can put a personality with that by just telling you like hey sit here do you and now people hear like the person behind it too and the lives online and then they're like oh i think i'll i think i'll check out that music yeah

it helps make your movement without you having to like actually do your music bro networking is is one of the greatest things and it's one of the greatest things that i enjoy doing like i i love talking to people like i'll spend on my phone maybe six to eight hours a day just trying to network and reach out to people to set up collabs you know like uh a lot of people been going viral on Tick Tock like this Grey's World guy and uh I'm sure you've seen if you want to pull it up yeah pull up the clip it's funny as hell and uh it's called Grey's World and then there's another dude you know the the nems guy who's doing the bing bong thing like i hit them up to like make them rugs and like they're like yeah cool

you can make me a rug and it's just cool because yeah i'm making you a rug but at the same time like linking up with you i can network with you it's a content piece i can use and uh i actually haven't seen this guy i'm sorry i'm pulling up that gray's world guy oh bro yeah i actually haven't seen him bro so he's hilarious all right which one should i do uh keep going keep going keep going which is the one one brie he's so fucking funny he's got a character named benji yeah he has this character like the dog benji the dog oh I have seen this guy. Never mind. I've seen the car videos. Yes, I have seen that. Where's the Benji character?

It's there. That one? Yeah, that's the Benji character. That's not the video that went super, super viral, though. I haven't seen those goth ones. Which one? 60 million. Yeah.

Right here? No, this one. Yeah. Oh, no, I have. Yeah have yeah wait i thought that was real i'm not a boomer bro this is what i'm saying that this is the one i'm gonna put this in the corner so people can see this yeah this was the one where the girlfriend's talking and we can't hear it in our ears right now because i don't have the volume coming through but it'll be coming through on the thing i'll make sure it's there here you go i make sure it's there this is where he's like fighting with his sister and then the boyfriend's taking the video he's

like fuck off bro i thought i you know what i'm an idiot i never liked google just to figure this out i thought this was like real and this kid was a fucking he makes a ton of videos like this that are all scripted and that's the type of content that I'm trying to grade into. See how real the reactions are great, too. Everybody's in on it. Everybody's in on it. That's the best part. Most people are shitty actors with the reactions.

They're actually like, I'm kind of buying it. It's all scripted, for sure. He's smart with his content. And I told him, I said, when I make you this rug, I need Benji to get it. So wait, you're making this guy a rug? Yeah, yeah. I got his number and all. And he said, I'll fly out to him or whatever.

Or he said he's from Louisiana. We'll fly out here. And I told him, I was like, yo, I'll link up with you. But I need Benji, your character, to get this rug from me. And he was like, done deal. And I was like, fire. Like, it's just crazy because I feel a lot of people have fear of like,

I don't want to hit this guy up or I don't want to ask for help or I don't want to do this because I'll look like I can't do it myself. I'm not asking for handouts. I'm specifically asking like, yo, do you possibly want to network? Do you want to do a skit?

Do you want to do this? Can I make you a rug? Or, you know, like I don't, I don't ever want to really ask something from somebody, but I feel like I will also provide something if they can provide something. And that's why I just love networking. I feel like I'm just like a networking beast. I actually do hate the word networking. I try to avoid using it myself because the way you're talking about it is exactly how i think about it in that you are you're actually like reaching out to people to say like hey i'm building a relationship with you right like you are you're bringing people into

your sanctum and the the cost is that you want to also be in their sanctum but how do you do that are you just a leech that comes in and says like oh let me be a part of that so i can chase cloud and get that or are you like hey i really like that you do and says like, oh, let me be a part of that so I can chase Cloud and get that? Or are you like, hey, I really like that you do this. That's awesome. I'd love to be a part of that. But also I can bring this to you as well, like from my end. And then people are like, holy shit.

Exactly. I think the way that I like to go about it is where, for example, like there's this company called Brothers Broadleaf, and they are two brothers from Florida that have ties to Nicaragua with their grandpa. And they have a factory out there like making cigars, hand rolled cigars. And like that's something that is within my niche because I like weed and I smoke. So like I hit them up and I wanted to network with them and they love me. They send me stuff all the time. We made a rug for them before. We've done a giveaway with them before.

They want to make rugs for their customers. And you actually fuck with their product. 100%. I advocate to my social media followers, you guys got to stop fucking with Backwoods and start smoking pearls. They have online drops like Supreme and they sell out every time that they like drop like they really drop online Because they have such a huge demand they can't even sell them in stores like and it's exclusive It's exclusive as shit, and it's fire because it's legit. It's not like it's like some bootleg cigar

Like it's two brothers who had enough of some bullshit and they're like i want to make quality five out of five uh backwards and they build a story around it yeah yeah exactly and uh i networked with them they when we did a show uh mayday in uh atlantic city we had like 300 people come out and it sold out and for like we i like to like uh do like little cool things for like when we have shows i like to give back to the fans and like whether that's like you know selling merch or or whatever like we set up a lot of like goodie bag stuff so every person that came into the show like they got um a goodie bag and in the goodie bag for the mayday show specifically was like a pre-rolled like brothers broadleaf like in its

own little tube and it had like a sticker on it that said little twin x mizzy coke x brother broadleaf that's cool and then the way that i want to collaborate really with brothers broadleaf is coming out with um they have a pack of five or they have their duds which is uh not five out of five but like the duds all right so when they have their cigars, they have to inspect them. And if there's one imperfection, it's not a five out of five. So they'll throw that in the dud bag. And the duds are still good and can smoke. It's just not a five out of five,

but it's probably still better than backwoods that you would get at the grocery store or whatever that just crack and break. So I want to make a collab with them on coming out with the twin pack and that's two backwoods or brothers broadleafs that are in the pack and that would be like our our networking thing and then you met them online yeah met them I never met them in person or none of that and yeah just just reached out and uh same thing with like dirty dom back in the day he used to be really close with like david dobrik and stuff like that like uh oh he's the guy that had

like the whole thing yeah yeah dom has some shit yeah for sure um there's other people who who's somebody else uh the guy from nilk boys uh mtv jesse he hit me up to be a part of the tv show before it was considered like what it is today and like we never got the chance to link up and because he was living in canada at the time and trying to move to la to start making milk boy content and then you know it's just like you won't know if you can't do something with somebody unless you don't try to reach out so i rather you know if you don't even open it i'm not mad at all if you don't even answer it and you've seen it i'm i'm not really mad i'm more like well i will probably question and be like well why wouldn't you answer or like i understand if it doesn't fit your criteria or whatever but i try to just at least hit up people

that i know i'll be able to provide something for them too not just me looking like a mooch right and I'm like relying on you for this handout I like doing things with companies that I can see myself growing with and we can help each other and to where we can revisit that collab maybe to not where it's like a one-off collab like thanks guys see you later i'm gonna find somebody else to network with yeah you you have you have an understanding of the not i have patience and a lot of people tell me i have persistence yes um this guy uh shout out proto hype he's a dj you're not just i'm saying you're just not dropping you You're not out there spamming people. I mean, I definitely am. Not, no, no. The way I'm defining spam.

I'm not spamming people like for networking purposes. Is sending out a robo message. I do that. Thousands at a time. I do that shit. Why do you do that? You don't need to do that. I know I don't need to, but there's also a thing in power of numbers.

So if I hit up i used to i used to have a bot for instagram that would um geo target places people hashtags and it would like follow unfollow and comment on my behalf and like i can put in like i can be like i want you to only comment on people's photos like sick photo check out my music or whatever like i i had this thing want you to only comment on people's photos like sick photo check out my music or whatever like i i had this thing called instagram and i was grandfathered in on this thing that even when instagram was trying to crack down and update their terms of service and stuff like i was still able to kind of use it but it kind of went completely like out in like 2017 it was done in 2017 it was like no more yeah so when i was using it though i used that tactic

of like numbers so if i followed a thousand people and only 500 people followed me out of that thousand then out of that 500 people that followed me out of that thousand i then had a hundred people like a photo of mine then out of that hundred people that liked the photo i had maybe 25 that commented on a photo and then out of that 25 I really made a super fan out of like five of them that bought merch and shit maybe came to a show like that's how I do it in the power of numbers and I feel people's attention same building yeah from fan building aspect I'm not saying like I'm network like spamming people to network but that's what I was taught I'm spamming like I'm spamming my

own followers like yo if you follow me fuck with my music like bop bop bop and if you don't it's totally cool i just want to let you know i dropped this new song check it out type shit like that's the that's as far as i would go with spamming somebody right i'm talking about on the back end forget your fans for a second that's a separate type of thing and i guess there's different ways to crack the egg there to get in front of people but like when you're talking about going back and forth on stuff business-wise or connecting within the music industry and stuff like that the value of people who actually still have the emotional intelligence to fucking deal with people and like them and also get them to like them and understand that like i'm gonna add

value here too is going way up because so many people have no fucking idea how to do that they are just looking for oh i just want to be a part of this yeah or like they have nothing to offer or they don't put out a sick video and then they hit them up only because they put out that sick video and then don't hit them up after that video has been posted for three days because they already forgot yeah and that's just how it goes people i, want easy access to things that are hard to obtain. You know, like everybody wants a trophy, but nobody wants to run the race, you know, and there's some people that they've been running races for a long time longer than me, but I don't have to run as hard as them or as long as them to get the same trophy. Like, it's all different.

You know, somebody can blow up on TikTok and, you know, be the next superstar. And I'm out here putting out fire content and taking my time to think about everything before I drop. And it is what it is. This happens all the time but i also think that we are longevity and not something that's just like here you go fish brains five seconds of attention and then you'll forget and then i'll feed you something else that's how we train society to be yeah and i'm trying to train my followers and anybody who believes in us that like if we all tap into our own networks and build up the networks that we already have and use them together we can just keep growing like it's it's inedible you know and

i want to see that balance too by the way with your said your shit you know what i'm saying like with um with the podcasts like we'll do this one i can come back and whatever we can either have a similar conversation or different topics depending on if happens or if we drop music or if you do something cool and you want to talk about it like it's just where i would not want to close this book up after this podcast that would be so like dumb for me in and out yeah you know like what what would be the point like well i mean that's a benefit of what i do i get to meet people on here and then i have relationships with you yeah like for also you though too like i'm sure you meet people and and and maybe maybe some people you might just like

be like thank god i got this guy on the show because i don't know if i'll ever be able to get you to come on the show again but like there's some people that you meet that are just like you know you want to build with them. You want to see what their ideas are, what they're trying to do. If you want to support it, if you want to learn about what they're doing. And I don't know.

Yeah. That's why podcasts are cool. When you get to learn like, yeah, if you use it the right way like that and you actually, you know, when I'm sitting down with people for three hours, you get to know people.

Yeah. And, and I've been lucky. I have not had anyone bad come in here. That's what's you had yeah not like we're 66 guest combos in or something like that and everyone's been fucking awesome so it's it's a rewarding thing in that i take it seriously where i yeah i want to see what's up with their life after that if i didn't know them before like if i knew them before that stays that way yeah or yeah exactly like does it like what what you were talking about on the podcast you also do that outside of this podcast and are you still continuing to do it or did you change something

and that no that's cool so wait wait hold on i might have misunderstood that are you saying what did you just say i thought you were saying something else no i was saying like it's cool when like you come in i don't even know what i said for real it just like it just came out so yeah i thought you were saying like i just if i understood it correctly i extend what i do in here to also when the mics go off no i'm saying like you can come in here and talk about whatever you want to talk about because it's different when when you're face to face with someone you can talk and act like you do all this cool shit but like do you still do that cool shit when you're not on the podcast i'm not saying you i'm saying whoever your guests are

no i understand like um you know like do they apply that to their life as well do you talk a big game or do you do it yeah like when i get out of here and off this podcast i will still talk exactly like this i will act exactly like this still say i don't know what the hell i'm doing i don't know what i'm talking about. I cannot educate you. I can only show you that you can do it because I'm doing it and I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. So, yeah.

That's one way to put it, right? Yeah, a bunch of nothing. Bitch ball of nothing right there. Well, I mean, look, the people who are out there... You just got to protect me at all costs, everybody. That's all you got to do is protect me at all costs. that's all you gotta do is protect me at all costs yeah that's you gotta be a societal legend to get there but i i feel like you could no you could be the protect this man at all costs yes i'm getting there i'm getting

there you're working on it i'm getting there it's like spider-man i gotta earn it yeah it's it's it's true though there's a lot of people who they they do things for attention and they'll do it on stuff like this too i haven't encountered that you know i'm sure one day i will or someone's just like somebody says something just because full of shit they're full of shit like they're not at anything they talk about they're not actually doing like they're just making it sound good they're a good salesman a good used car salesman that's what i said my third grade teacher was trying to tell me that but there's i was like you're backing yourself into the corner i'm not trying to put you in no i know i know i'm just saying i'm just saying i was in

third grade mrs d how did you know that how did you know that but all right did you see did you see the video of logan paul talking to the fan who quit his job to get a job with him yeah and he and like he basically like shatted on him completely and it was incredible because that kid that kid yeah yeah thought he could just do something on social media for attention because maybe he didn't like his job and didn't like his life that even it was paying him 100k or whatever it was and said like oh because i do this and then roll the camera and walk up to logan paul say bro i just quit my hundred thousand dollar a year job to work for you give me a job he'll give me a job and it'll also get me social media fame and logan

paul looked right back at him and said bro that's that's not how life works i'm happy for you that like if you did it legitimately you got away from something you didn't want to do but you can't just walk up here put me on camera and expect me to be like yeah you know what you're hired i keep my circle tight we built this over a long period of time come back to me in three years and show me you're committed Yeah, I fucking love that bro. No exactly because that's like the same thing with music That's why a lot of it's clicky because you don't if you don't know somebody you don't know What they're hitting you up for what they're trying to get out of you and if they're just trying to be on the ride and Then they want to get off on their exit not your exit, you know and with that dude specifically i think it was like why would you

just like expect logan paul to like hire you on the spot when you don't already think he has a team like going hard for him already that's like you know what i'm saying thought of that i don't think he even thought of that i think it was just like i'm gonna do something for attention and logan's gonna have to respect it because it's on camera and yeah but then and then what you're gonna have people that side with him saying oh logan you're so evil for saying that to him and you're this and you're that and like why would you crush him why couldn't you just hire him i'm sure there's tons of people that said that but it's like i'm sure you gotta you gotta earn this yes you can't just go out and just hold your hand out and expect and expect and expect like it's like how you said

this is not how it's not how it works and also think about how much like as as torturous as it is sometimes like you're creating something and you think more people should see it and then they don't and it's like you're on all the time it's it sucks right yeah but how rewarding would it even be like think about where you are now as opposed to where you were three years ago how rewarding would that even be if like it was all just gravy i way there i i feel like it's different for me because i feel like within the like i wasn't like trying to rap for like 10 years like i've done like so many different things within a 10-year span to where like if you were told me three years ago i'll be making rugs i'll be like you're crazy bro you know what i'm saying and then like if you would have told me five years ago i'll be rapping

i'll be like you're crazy bro like so i i don't necessarily know but all i know is life is one big old you're doing it and yeah i'm doing it i'm doing it because i want to do it if i didn't want to do it i wouldn't do it but there's work that goes into it there's time yeah investment virgil virgil said something like if you want to make a t-shirt and you don't make the t-shirt within the next 30 minutes you don't want that as bad as you think you want it virgil abloh yeah like if you're a graphic designer i'm i'm not saying you know you need to have all the types of equipment and stuff. Like, people use the bare minimum to get things done, you know, like, for whatever you have to do. Whatever it's rap, you're recording off your phone, you know, like, voice memos and stuff,

or recording out your closet and shit, like, as a studio. But, like he said, if you don't pick up whatever you want to do and you just keep making excuses you don't want that shit yeah you just you just don't want it and you don't want it bad enough you're just looking at other people who have that and who make it look easy who put in a lot of work to make it look easy and who are now just enjoying it and having fun that it looks so appealing to you that you think you can just do it and then if you don't do it within that 30 minutes, you're just all talk. And that's what a lot of people I feel are all talk. They are. And, um, there's very few people that walk the walk and talk the talk. I'm not saying I'm one of them, but I'm just saying I'm

trying. I'm like, you know, know um you don't make fun of fat people trying to go to the gym and lose weight you know they're trying to better themselves like I'm trying to better myself I don't know what I'm doing but I'm learning on the way and showing up yeah and that's the main part like half of being James Bond is dressing like him you know what I mean like I never heard that one that's good yeah that's a thumbnail um i don't think that's how you use that text i don't know what thumbnails are um yeah um do you do like any like drugs i know i was so random but yeah let's just turn this yeah let's just i mean i was always a pretty simple guy i

was like same if it's something that could kill me i'm not gonna do it right okay and i guess technically like if you have like three handles of tequila you could technically die right but within reason right so i was always an alcohol and a weed guy and that's where i left it you know i'm i've been interested in the past and like what mushrooms must be like never done a trip myself so i can joke about that but i don't really know much about it but no i was never into it was never into the harder drugs i i didn't i was definitely shocked at college at how many people did cocaine all the fucking time yeah like going to class and shit oh my god yeah no i'm not even kidding

no i'm not either it was stunning yeah um but i was never that was never for me and i also don't think i don't need cocaine yeah i wake up high off life and then i smoke weed are you just a weed guy or what's your story i'm a weed guy um i dabbled in mushrooms before but like I haven't been someone who was like you know like growing them and like taking them every day type like I would say I can count on my hand how many times like one hand how many times I've done did you have any wild experiences um I don't think I had any wild experiences I just felt like I could like dance way better than I could in like normal life.

Like I was busting moves. I could never like, like it was like where like I was like dancing outside my body. I was like, you can kill it. Do it. I was just doing shit. I like,

I didn't want to do like when I was sober, I was like, I can't do that. I can't move like that. Like, I feel like, uh, shrooms is like just facing a a mirror of things that you want to hide from

yourself things that you um want to find answers to but don't know how to get the answer necessarily i think those are all things of why people enjoy shrooms i mean um other than the you know laughing your ass off and fucking just looking at the cool visuals and shit but i never dabbled into taking like crazy amounts i always microdosed and took like a gram i never took like an eighth i know people that take like quarters to the face and shit that's all that shit they're on like another planet and like i'm over here like should i tell my mom like i mean look you you have to admit guys like steve jobs you know they they did the psychedelics they well yeah that's probably why i came up with the iphone that's the point like what do you think this way if you didn't do it it's it's a different

thing than you know when you're talking about stuff that doesn't kill you. It's an entirely different conversation. And so it's interesting to me. I haven't... I've been curious about it. I've definitely been curious of like... I wonder if I would discover anything. But I haven't been like

I gotta do it. I just want to go in the forest with like a squad and just trip and just have like a nice time and like you know just like look up at the sky enjoy life and i think nature is just so cool i always loved watching steve irwin and like watching peace steve yeah man like all like uh i just love animals i love nature i love being outside i love reptiles um i like I would love to go on that Naked and Afraid shit. The what? The Naked and Afraid.

You never seen that show? No. You go naked, live in world with another partner, and you try to see if you can survive for 30 days or some shit. You ever see Man vs. Wild with that other guy? I've seen that. I want to do shit like that or like you know be a voiceover for like documentaries to be like and now the fish are eating like you know what

i'm saying like just do like just whatever the fuck like that's what i'm saying like you see how snoop dog just does whatever the fuck he wants like i mean he's snooped i know but he's a household name and he built that name up and i could i would watch that man talk about anything that's what i'm saying he can do anything he can commentate a soccer fucking game like it's just it's just crazy and i feel like that's the type of uh energy i want to provide that like there's no limitations on this shit just because i do music it doesn't mean i can't do other things or just because i'm making rugs we don't gotta just make them for the floor yeah like you know like it's just i like challenging myself and i think that's why i'm always doing something different because

i'm like bro you've been doing this for like a year you gotta do something else now you gotta like implement something else you gotta do rugs now you gotta do something crazy i just want to know what's going to be like next now you know I got all these things going on I wonder if I'm going to add it add like something else onto it I'm thinking maybe the only thing I would do since I'm celiac I wanted to come up with this edible company called glue twin instead of gluten called a glue twin and like just partner with a person and just make these edibles for gluten-free people that you know my celiac community are there big problems with gluten and edibles there's certain candy i can't have gummies yeah there's certain candy i can't have that has wheat

in it like i can't have airheads i can't have the extremes i can't have yeah twizzlers i can't have that has wheat in it. Really? I can't have Airheads. I can't have the Extremes. I can't have Twizzlers. I can't have Twix bars because of the cookie. Really? Oh, yeah. I can't have anything like cookies, pastries, cake. It's like my buddies used to make- I can't have chocolate chip ice cream.

Oh, fuck. That's terrible. You know what I'm saying? They used to make firecrackers in college so it'd be like talking about actual fireworks no no no no fire what are you talking about firecracker what are you talking about i'm talking about the good good edibles they we used to i never cooked them my boys cooked them they were great at it but it was like they take the oreo and they put peanut butter and then it's called firecracker yeah and a couple things

in there and then obviously you know the good stuff fire and that's what they would call it but like Oreos and shit could you have that I can't have Oreos gotta have gluten-free Oreos all right yeah you know what there's a business here there's a I know I know I'm telling you man there's a lot of people that are probably gluten sensitive I don't think about like how many things gluten is in but I didn't I didn't think about it either until I had it for real like you know like i didn't really think about like how bad it was for people that were lactose intolerant and then i was like fuck i got celiac like i'm in the same boat as y'all and there's a lot of that stuff going around too like more and more people are sensitive to think there's something in evolution going on

with us with what we eat and what they send us i was gonna say it's definitely the fucking government yeah it ain't fucking me it's i'll tell you that it's it has to be all the gluten food that we eat or all the bioengineered shit that they make the food god damn new world order i'm saying yeah and i always feel that too i feel like everybody's just always like new world order like you know like it's just like alex jones right there no it is god damn it aliens like it's just like wild you know i feel like people just always want some crazy to talk about too yeah like someone has to just start the conversation case in point today yeah like this whole john was all over the place and i love love it. It's great. I love it, man. Who are some of your influences?

In life? It doesn't just have to be music. I would say my biggest influence ever, I would say Ty. I'll say number one would be Robin Williams. That's a great one. I don't know why, but I just love the man, bro. Love that guy. Robin Williams is just such a character, man.

And he reminds me of myself when at times when I was so mad and sad and depressed, all I wanted to do was make other people happy. And I was so good at doing that, that I got lost in like my own, like, why don't you help yourself, bro? And like, I couldn't get out of that because it was so easy to like give advice, but it was so hard to like take my own. And like people would come to me like, what should I do with this? What should I do with this? And I would give them like the advice, like that lady that you would write to and like you know she would like read your yeah like i could probably do that too dear twin i'm i'm gonna start that too it i'm starting you just got a heart you got a hard no over here no don't do that but uh yeah i just feel like uh i had to help myself, and I looked at Robin Williams as me sometimes in a younger version of myself.

You know, just always trying to – Older version of yourself. Well, a younger version of myself because I'm not, like, all sad and all – like, I was saying I was, like – Got it, got it, got it. Very, like, you know, unhappy in my younger days before I was rapping and all like i was saying i was like i got it got it very like you know unhappy in my younger days before i was rapping and stuff like that and uh you know someone like jim carrey um that's another one i have a lot of comedians because i just like laughing um adam sandler for sure um another person i look up to is skrillex i love his um i loved what he brought to like the electronic sound and you know like I was just

I was like listening to his music not knowing really what it was but like I knew what it was like I I knew there was nothing else like this but like this was it are you huge EDM guy I want to say I'm a huge EDM guy I just like um I like it I used to DJ so I I have I have the love for it I have tough love for it now though since I'm doing a lot of hip-hop stuff we mean you have tough love for it like I wouldn't like I used to always be like yo I want to go to this festival and I want to go do this and go make some content here or like yo like we should go try to go to this show and link up with some DJs to see if we can get like some networking shit in but like since I'm doing rap stuff like I've been like distancing myself from the EDM community like

I haven't really been DJing and that's why like 2022 I want to start um implementing me DJing while I like rap yeah mix both worlds you know like Mizzy doing some shit and like I'm out there spinning, fucking scratching and then do whatever. But it's just, I just always want to think of a better way to evolve ourselves because as a species, you have to keep evolving

or someone's going to fucking eat you up. Yeah, and it's symbolic in everything, you know, like in business and industry and product and and product and all that if you don't adapt to trying to find a new way to do something you will be overtaken and so like one of the beautiful things about music now is that there is such a cross integration of genres i mean little dark was making a song with with morgan whalen last week yeah i mean like could you imagine that even a decade ago you're like what yeah no no like there's an

appreciation for all different types of things that go on so like for you you know i'm not gonna tell you what to do but like i think it's like an asset that you were a dj for so long and like there's some way you can tie that into what you're doing right now you know and you already do i'm sure in some ways i'll tell you when we're off the podcast what what the plans really are okay i just don't want to give away you can't do it publicly i don't want to give away like to scoop it's a secret do you what what like i'm just it's gonna blow your mind you're gonna say that's a crazy idea i'm ready all right all right is it is it my boy she's not telling you too much she don't want to give you credit man she's tired of it's like every time you're like ah fuck i get i gotta give credit that's

good though you need someone who's honest and it's not no i need honest people bro bro i don't need no yes man i need you to tell me yes women yes i don't need you to tell me if you fuck with this shit i need you to be like yo this shit's ass and i think you should go about it this way and this will be better if you did it this way because it makes more sense i don't need someone being like yes to everything i say because then it's like what room do i have to grow none you know and i feel like i'm i'm missing out if if everybody's just saying yeah around me what like what besides skrillex though were there because you are a rapper like were there guys growing up yeah man i thought about rap 50 cent hard yeah like i remember begging like my mom because i had to be 18 to buy the discs because they were all explicit and shit really i don't

remember that yeah man i was that young trying to get this rap music i remember i was listening to like d12 with eminem how come and i was in fucking uh i was listening to my band in catholic school don't even know the name of my band i was singing it in the in a uh in a closet with uh one of my classmates valerie garofalo shout out valerie and uh the nun caught us and she thought like we would like because like in there it says like something at the end about like she's wearing a thong or whatever an underwear thing and like the nun thought we were doing some weirdo like hooking up or something and she made us like write like a letter saying like you know we're sorry or whatever but like jesus i don't know sorry sorry

to d12 sorry for what i don't know if we're all playing that song uh d12 was a time man it was man it was and then like other than that lo cool j i remember i used to have like the uh fucking 25 dollar portable stereo you can carry around i was burning disc on line wire and downloaded 50 cent songs that were really soldier boys crank you because he was fucking just like he was hacking that you know he used to do that he used to rename songs soldier boy he used to he was renaming files on limelight yeah so people would download them that was him doing it yeah he would put like when i would download song i would download like many men by 50 cent and it would be like it would be like soldier boy crank up or

whatever crank whatever that shit is and uh he would do that so you can get the downloads but it's smart as hell genius all the listeners out there who are like below the age of 23 and have no idea what we're talking about you guys missed out is limewire now like the shazam i don't know. LimeWire has come up a few times on this show, and I haven't afterwards gone and found LimeWire.com to see what it looks like, but remind me to do that. It's just like it was. I think after LimeWire it was something called Frostbite.

You know what? I vaguely remember something like that. What was it called? Frostwire? I think so. Yeah, I don't know. I might have just said Frostbite because it's cold. think i think it was frost wire i think it was definitely was frost wire yeah yeah yeah big mistake it was like it was a fun day let me tell you you'd go on there and you just download

files and they would have like numbers in them and and it would be like with the underscores it was it was like yeah i mean it was it was it was a black market through and through. And so I didn't know that there were... It was a music metaverse. Yeah. It was every man for himself. It was a label's worst enemy at that time, probably. But Soulja Boy's in there just renaming tracks. Yeah, he's in there just killing shit.

Like Britney Spears putting on... I didn't know Britney sounded like this. Yeah, just killing it. Other than that, though hello cool jay i fuck with um uh asap rocky tyler the creator i really love their vibes and like their weirdness especially tyler's and um i fuck with kanye west a lot i like his um love kanye i love his just his craziness he's and you said that like you're a little crazy and it's good like creatives good creatives should be a little crazy i think i'm a little crazy too but like you're crazy about your craft yeah yeah and like you're gonna do nothing

for anything to like fuck that craft up like that's how crazy i am about this craft it's like a genius like with kanye especially i always say like he's crazy but he about this craft. It's like a genius. Like with Kanye especially, I always say like, he's crazy, but he's a genius. But he's crazy because he's a genius and he's a crazy genius. No, he is. He is. That's it. I agree with you on that. Like I ain't voting Kanye for president, but goddamn.

No. Like, whoa, do we need a guy like that? Yeah. He's nuts. No, you need that. You need people that like you don't really know what they're talking about but you like know what they're talking about you know that they know what they're yes exactly that's that's the most that's what i'd be telling brie

all the time i know what i'm talking about i don't know if anybody else does but at least i know like so i can watch this video and like somebody will be, I really don't know what's going to say in there. But I'll watch back and be like, I know exactly what I meant. And I can dial it back in. Oh my god. I just love it, man. I just love it, bro. I'm waiting on the comments on this one. I'm going to be laughing.

Bro, I know. There's going to be people that come to your house to murder you. I know. They're going to be like, dude, this guy's on drugs. I'm completely sober, guys. I only had organic tea with honey. That's it. That's impressive. Yeah, that's all I had today.

I didn't eat. I was going to bring Chick-fil-A over, but I didn't do that because we were running late. It was snowing. That was the first snow I seen all winter, too. Yeah. It was wild.

I hope it's not like six inches outside. I know. We're probably going to go outside. Sorry. I'm going to have to shovel out. You can't sue me. I need you to sign that thing. know fuck yeah yeah tough this is what it is but fuck it so you do you have a lot of influences that are out of genre though too like besides

just edm like do you have oh like art i would say like banksy like art or no no i'm talking about music like outside of edm and rap like are you like in the country or some some weird shit like outside the box definitely not like i could probably make a fire country song but definitely don't have any like people i would like be like yeah that's that's like like i yeah not if any if i have to pick anybody who's country i'd pick trap house coda and i don't think you know about trap house coda but he made a fire country song you should check you should check it out can we trap house c trap house can definitely can't play it because that'll be like copyright but Trap House Coda No, yeah, why would be copyright? Because because like if it's his song that's intellectual, but I can't play okay. Okay. Okay. No, I just goes on YouTube

No, I was gonna say he's the he's the he's the boy. He wouldn't mind. He wouldn't mind Trap House Coda So he's a rapper who made a country song yeah he made a fire ass country song like a viral country song trap house coda yeah right there right there which one i know you can't play it but it's the it's a old silverado old silverado yeah wait i you know what i think i saw a clip of this on Twitter. Yeah. Because I just scrolled my finger over it. We can't play it, but I just want to see the music video to see if I recognize it. But yeah, I mean, this goes back to genre band. I'm just curious, though.

Not country, but anything. Outside EDM and rap where you have personally played. Are you a Whitney Houston fan or some shit? What's the story? Man, I would definitely say like... Yes, I've seen this i would i would say nah i would say like you're rapping edm pretty pure rap edm like i fuck with rachel ray oh man oh i'm sorry i'm sorry i was trying to give you a good answer

um like for real i did watch rachel ray growing up so my mom had on and she's still on yeah she's still on she's still killing it god there's like two thousands women hosting like the midday talk shows really yeah i know it was it was a time that was a time to be alive that was like the live the live shows and the moms being like you get a car you get a car you get a car this shit was wild yo i bet if i was there if i have a shot like you get a car you get a car you get a car this was wild yo if i was there if i have a shot like you get a blunt you got a joint you get it back wood that's a song we're putting that we're putting that on a record what's up we're putting that on you guys me and your record we'll have it as the theme song for the podcast anytime all right we'll figure something like a

little jingle i'm with that we'll figure something out man dude i'm exhausted you you you have and this is a compliment you've exhausted me today this is really good i appreciate that man you're gonna be exhausted going through that footage and ending it too dude i'm gonna be laughing my ass off i bet you're gonna be like i probably ran into the craziest kid ever i can't believe i like thank god he left this shit was like too long i lost i lost 10 pounds in this seat today fire i love it i love it i love it thanks for coming along for the ride you don't get to stop you leave here with him so now yeah i think that i think the way i talk it's like visionary like you like you can just have this on and not

even watch the video you'll just be like i can see what he's saying and that's how i try to talk on that note thank you for doing this thank you so much for inviting me bro i really hope to come back again i hope you had an awesome holiday keep killing it you've been killing it i know you're gonna continue to kill it because this is what you're gonna do this is it and um until next time i hope everybody can check out my music. Where can they find it? SoundCloud? Yeah, SoundCloud and Spotify, mostly right now.

We don't have a YouTube. We're going to be remaking that and dropping a couple music videos that we have unreleased. And other than that, you guys can just follow me on Instagram for all our updated content and stuff like that.

It's no thanks. So I-T-S-N-O-T-H-X. That's your handle. it's no thanks so i t s n o t that's your handle it's no thanks yeah beautiful yeah the one thing i'm going to talk to you about off camera i want to see you guys dropping some of that some of that archive i know there's a couple special ones in there but just start ripping it no definitely like it's 20 2022 it's time yeah this is your yes sir you already know i am not stopping. All right. Well, Twin, Finney, thank you, brother. Thank you. Bree.

Oh, you got the mic all the way there. No, I told you this thing is out. Bree, thanks for riding along. Thanks, guys. Everybody else, you know what it is. Stay safe, man. Give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace.