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What's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the Julian Dory podcast.
I am Julian Dory.
I'm Joey D.
How you doing?
How you doing?
Joey D, if you want to read that text you got as we got on air last week, you got to do that when you get something like that that that comes in right away.
Oh, you're going to put me on the spot like that?
I'm going to put you on the spot like that.
Oh, really?
Can we at least get like a picture verification of it?
I don't know about that.
Yeah, I know about that.
Oh, man.
It might be a little too much.
Yeah, it was a very demonetization text.
Sometimes you get a horny text, you know, in the middle of something important.
That's right. I looked over like literally, as I said, like, how you doing and turned towards
Dief when we opened up last week. I looked over there and...
Yeah. Yeah. I looked down on my phone and I'm like, well, I got an hour and a half till I could answer that one.
He looked like he was fighting for his life. But shout out to whoever you were. That was a really nice text. Very,
very nice thing to get the party started. Deif, we had an interesting guest come in this week.
not we did we did so yeah we've been filming a lot recently and then we're like loaded up in
November and December we just got a lot of filming to do throughout the rest of this year when
I'm in town and all that so the one that we filmed this week will come out in about two weeks
by the way like just so you guys understand the way that I do episodes is when I can get people
like when they're available we make it happen we get them in here and do it and deal with it
later and there's two kinds of episodes that happen. Episodes that are extremely current event
and got to get out right away and then episodes that are more evergreen and then some episodes
that are fully evergreen like kind of more storytelling, personal story stuff like that. So I film
it and then deal with programming later. So on a given week, you'll see an episode. You guys don't
know this, but you'll see an episode that maybe we filmed fucking the day before. And then the
episode after that will be one that was filmed two and a half months earlier with someone telling
their story. So I'm always kind of trying to juggle that. So the one we filmed this week was a lot of
like personal story stuff that's related to things happening. So we're going to put it out,
I think, in about two weeks. That said, it was with this guy, Jim Erdman.
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review. They're both a huge, huge help. Thank you.
Now, Jim, as far as I know, has only really appeared on one other podcast. And that was
Tucker Carlson back in. I want to say that was June or July. I think it was July when he did.
And, you know, Jim's another one of those guys, very nice guy. We got along with him well, but
definitely someone who has worked in the government for a long time. And as I have laid out many
times before, my thought process in doing that is I would much rather the people who have that
on their resume, okay, not people that are like hiding behind something else. That's really creepy.
But when people have that on their resume, so me, Dief, and all of you out there are aware of that before you listen to them, I love putting them in this chair so all you guys can see it too. You can see us challenge them, go back and forth, talk to them like human beings as well and get their story or their perspective and all you guys out there can judge what's going on. But Jim is very interesting because he did a lot of serious shit at CIA, including things that he can't talk.
talk about publicly, which is the nature of that kind of job, but some stuff that, you know,
we were at least able to talk off record and talk with some other people and get some,
I guess, verification on the types of work that he did. But this is a guy who kind of became
an internal dissonant. That's, that's what he claims and comes out with at CIA in 2021. And it was
over the COVID stuff as it started. But his.
His whole thing is that he feels like, what was the exact phrase he used to if he was like,
I was the deep state or something. I think he said it like directly like that.
He said it a few times.
Yeah. He's like, you know, it's this gradual process that then happens all of a sudden
where you're like, holy shit. And you look in the mirror and you're that guy. And you guys out there
can kind of judge what you think of whether or not that is how it actually goes down.
but he said that after basically fighting back against some of the mandates that were happening
and then representing a lot of other people in the bureaucracy across all different parts of
government who felt the same way about COVID, you know, he was demoted, his career got changed
the whole bit and then fast forward to the Trump administration coming in.
He was brought on to, I think he gave the exact term, but like a committee or some sort of
internal investigative committee through Tulsi Gabbard, who was the director of national and,
director of intelligence for all the agencies and everything under Trump until June, where they
were going to try to do some of the things that Trump promised he was going to do on the campaign
trail, which is like uncover secrets and files that the American people and the world have the
right to know. And as you and I well know, much of that was very stonewalled, Joey.
yeah something like that fair to say and i did actually i don't know what your thoughts were joe but
i did feel that from him i did feel like on the genuine scale i think he was genuinely both on
and off camera very frustrated with some of the i don't know change that he felt could be made
you know again you got to watch that language when you talk about people like this but
and then he basically wasn't allowed to.
So I say all this because when that episode drops,
I'm going to be really curious what your guy's thoughts out there were
because he's also going to be coming back
about a month after that episode comes out.
And I made that decision while we were recording.
Like there's this internal calculation that happens
when I have people in here where I usually know
within maybe the first hour or so,
first 35 minutes where I can kind of chart out is it's going to be one podcast or two right because
I'm never going to put out a fucking six hour episode I don't do that so I kind of have in my head what
the timeline might look like and I knew right away that this guy it's like well this you know
we could be sitting here for six and a half hours yeah and so what I felt like was going to be
happening was the first three three and a half hours we're going to be us talking more
at a meta level about his career, his approach, some things that happened to him.
Zooming out now as a quote unquote private citizen.
Again, I'm always going to put that in our quotes with a guy like this, as you should,
and kind of asking him like, why are you here?
Why me?
Like, why are you talking to me?
Why are you talking to so many people on camera?
Why are you going on a movement now outside of CIA?
These are the things you got to wonder because you guys, you got to.
guys all righteously hold it to account all the time as you should. It's like we saw what a meat
factory in all the wrong ways mainstream media became. And a lot of it's because they just started
becoming the narrative, right? Or they started letting in the people who drive the narrative.
And so if you are going to talk to people to try to investigate places that you have
righteously so enormous suspicions about. And in some cases, well-founded cases again,
So I'm talking about places like the CIA.
We don't want to fall on that trap both in my seat, running the show and in your seat as the audience as taking every fucking thing at their word.
And it could very well be a mix.
It could be, you know, he's saying some things that are over the target, so to speak, and other things it's like, well, we got to protect that kind of information.
Right.
And we got to separate.
What does Danny Jones say?
The wheat from the chaff.
Yeah.
That's how it said.
So I'm going to be very curious what you guys think.
The second episode we will do with him.
There were eight or nine very important topics in my head, very specific events and narratives that I wanted to talk with them about.
And I told him that while we were on air.
I said, I'm going to be bringing you back.
I don't want to sit here and do a six and a half hours a day.
I want to be fresh for that other podcast.
Because I also, when we recorded that the other day, the day I got my monthly allergy shots.
and I'm always like a little bit slower when I, when I have that day.
So I want to make sure I'd be fresh for the second one.
But I think you guys will find the third hour of that podcast.
I think it was maybe three hours, 20 minutes, something like that.
Something like that, yeah.
But when we got into the third hour and we got into a lot of the discussions about like,
how does the CIA control the media?
How do how to Fed send out narratives and package them in other things?
how aware of this were you.
Yeah.
You know, I think you guys are going to find that conversation very, very fascinating.
And I will say, I, you know, we were nice.
And he's a nice guy.
We got a lot of spies are, right?
We got along well.
But I appreciated the fact that he rolled with it when it was very clear I was not just going to sit here and nod my head and be like, yeah, that checks out.
You know, there were a lot of times where I'm like, you know,
Yeah, I don't know why you're saying that.
I don't know why would you be saying that, you know?
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So I don't know.
That was one of the more interesting podcasts I've done in a while.
And I wanted to make sure we at least gave you guys a heads up on that because I'm really going to want.
I'm going to be looking at the opinions of people out there on that one. So thank you to Jim for doing it.
And you will get another definitely at least three hours to view of him and judge for yourselves for sure.
So that's coming. But, you know, speaking of people in the government who don't say they're in the government, Peter Thiel.
Peter. Peter. We've laid off Peter for a few weeks. I feel like you always got to come back to your friends.
When we haven't, he's still there.
He's still there.
Right behind you.
He's still floating.
Pause.
Floating, yeah.
That's a hard pause.
That's a hard pause, buddy.
But, you know, he's still floating out in the ethersphere there.
And there's a new tool that Palantir has.
Did I put this link in there, Thief?
Yeah, I got it right here.
You got it right there.
Of course you got it already.
Palantir, as we well know, is a company that is just interested in
protecting us American citizens. And in some cases, apparently protecting us from ourselves because
we can't police ourselves. And the same guys you run this company like Peter Thiel also invest in
companies like Flock and probably some other companies as well that aren't named Flock doing cameras.
You know, I've said it a million times and I'm always going to remind people this so that we don't
lose, you know, the full message here. Companies like Flock are just one of many. They're the
what we're looking at at the moment, you know, but there's other companies like Axon and places
that are chomping at the bit to take the place of flock because their CEO sucks and is a beta
mail. But not the Lonsdale one, the second one, Dief. I'm going to come to that in one second
because John Lonsdale is a co-founder. Yeah, let me get this the new tech. Yeah, yeah. So Palantir
just released, and I'm reading this from at Orwell Day on Twitter. So you guys can check out that
account there. A little wink and a nod to Big Brother and George Orwell, so shout out to that account.
Palantir just released a new surveillance system that fuses satellites, radars, and every camera
into one real-time tracker of people and movement. We have to consider the possibility,
probability, that with flock as the eyes, a system like this could be overlaid onto the U.S.
and we could be the targets. Another reason why we cannot allow
flock and I'm going to add editorialize here, companies like it to exist in the way that they do right
now for sure or to exist as Orwell Day says here, period. So let's play some of this video so
people can see this tool and then we'll talk about it. This is Maven Smart System. Palantir's
software as a service product that we are deploying across the entire department. As you can see,
it's not just one data feed, it's multiple. And instead of having eight or nine systems,
for those decision makers to look at every single day.
In order for them to make decisions,
you then fuse it into a single visualization tool.
The single visualization tool allows you to select,
deselect different types of data,
look at different approaches to data,
but more importantly,
from the same system that you're trying to develop
your workflows around.
Once you have a detection that you want to actually move
and actually move into a targeting workflow, for example,
this is what you do.
We love our corporate terms.
Left click, right click, left click, magically, it becomes a detection.
Okay, pause that real quick.
Detection.
Left click, left click, left click.
It's that easy.
He's literally saying out loud, he's doing the meme out loud.
A bunch of fucking betas behind keyboards controlling the world and saying fuck you like it's a video game while we all deal with the consequences.
Let's keep going.
Into a workflow.
This is standard digitized workflow, but I want to walk you through it quickly.
You have different types of targets that are identified on the left there.
Every single column produces a different type of decision-making process.
Once you have that decision and you're trying to action that process,
we now move into COA generation, in course of action generation,
where we are automatically, by a number of factors,
trying to identify what the best asset to prosecute a target looks like.
To prosecute a target.
Once we've got the different approaches and we select one,
we then can move direct.
directly into how do we action that target. So we've gone from identifying the target to now coming
up with the course of action to now actioning that target all from one system. This is revolutionary.
We were having this done in the 9 systems. Different kind of revolution that I had. That's good
that's good right there. Different kind of revolution than I think the founding fathers had in mind.
This is also, if I may make the leap here, a prime example of like probably great guessing in this case,
predictive programming because it was so long ago, like Kubrick type guessing with, I'm thinking of the Dark Night with Chris Nolan, that tool that Looseish Fox uses Morgan Freeman in the film. And I've referenced this before where he walks in and Bruce Wayne says you can, I don't remember how it worked, but you can basically use all cell tower technology to track and visualize all the people in an area all at once throughout Gotham so that I can know where to be. And Lucius Fox goes, no one.
should have this tool.
And that Bruce Wayne says, when you finish, or where does he go, he goes, when you finish,
just type in your name.
Yeah.
And so then when Lucius Fox finishes the job and Batman gets the Joker, spoiler alert if you
haven't fucking seen that movie.
That's the thing, though.
You know, Lucius Fox types in his name and the whole thing shuts down and blows up.
The problem is, Joey Defe, please finish this thought.
Well, I was going to say, I think Lucius actually did a little backdoor deal with
think you tell in Palantir and he was like, I got some good tech.
This is from the Wayne family.
This shit ain't even hit.
Oh, don't do that.
DARPA don't even got this shit, son.
Don't put that on Lucius Fox, bro.
He made the deal.
I don't think he made the deal.
That's not what I thought you were going to say.
I haven't seen him around much later.
But I would, no, no, don't do that.
When's the last time you saw him in the same room?
Come on.
Come on.
He can't do wrong.
He sold the tech.
I don't think he did.
Dief.
Dief.
There's not a deleted scene there.
We're just meeting with Peter Thiel.
I actually heard that there's 40 minutes of the dark night that they didn't put in the original cut, to be honest with you.
And that's not one of them, though.
He's a decent immoral man.
He goes down to Washington.
He's like, well, I got some good tech for y'all.
No.
And they're like, what do you got?
And he's like, what if I told you you could use Bluetooth to track everybody?
And that's how I met my friend Andy.
And then Andy Dufrane comes in.
He's like, I'll do the deal.
I'll broker it.
Okay.
Okay. It's how it happened. I just for the record, I disagree with that. He co-signs that. I think
Lucius Fox was a brave and decent man. But point being, literally no one who's behind that type of
screen in the real world is a brave and decent man. That's just been proven over and over again.
They do not type in Lucius Fox and watch it flow up. They go, you know what? We're going to be
the good guys here. Yeah. You know what? I know what those books say. I know they all warn about
you know, being an overlord and they're going to advantage of power when you have it.
But like, that won't be us because our intentions are great.
Where have you heard that one before?
Every day for all these people.
Every single day.
They're going to save my life.
So, you know, it's just, it's very frustrating when a company like that is openly,
company like that being Pallantir, is openly and directly in contact and,
in full-blown business deals
throughout the history of their entire company
since I believe 2003
with the three-letter agencies.
Yeah.
You have to ask these questions.
And then you have to ask,
well, why are they beta testing it on No King's protests?
And by the way, where did the No King's protests
get funded by?
How's that somehow connected to this shit?
I'm pure spec on that.
But like, it's a giant self-serving
calling mechanism for all the sheep.
Yeah. It just is. And, you know, luckily, there's some wonderful people, though, that founded the company, have moved on to more important things in society, apparently.
What are they doing? John Lonsdale is one of them. He seems like a really trustworthy guy. Pallantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, sorry, Joe Lonsdale, is a major force pushing the Trump administration to lock up unhoused people. Can we stop? He's talking about homeless people. All right. Let's stop with the fuck unhoused people.
What are we doing?
Why are you letting words bother you so much, dude?
Come on.
No, they're letting words bother them.
It's bothering you.
Lonsdale founded the Cicero Institute, a lobbying group eight years ago.
Now they've been instrumental in passing laws, criminalizing camping or sleeping in public in 16 states.
It's unclear why the billionaire has a passion project of getting homeless people incarcerated.
This is a prime example of, to forget the fact that this guy's a scumbag.
This is a prime example of where the opposite reaction of a pendulum is very bad.
It's very bad, right?
So I think we can all agree the disgrace to which we have watched so many local governments
make a business out of the homeless industry.
Like that's what they do.
They pay people hundreds of thousands of dollars to have jobs where the incentive is to keep
the job so homelessness therefore continues.
And they have tent cities everywhere and people live in it.
hell on earth sometimes. That's how you get places like zombie land in Kensington and Philadelphia.
Like I agree. This is all bad. On that count, Joe Lonsdale is correct. But like his way to pull it back
where he's like, yeah, let's just imprison all of them. That's not how it's done, dude.
You know, I'm not sitting here, by the way, I'm not sitting here pretending to have all the answers
to all these problems. I'm not sitting here telling you it's going to be perfect or that you're
going to remove the entire homeless crisis forever and not have any homeless people. There's always
going to be some form of a percentage where that's going to exist. And you want that to exist in
the most orderly way possible, which seems counterintuitive for sure. I understand all that.
But like the Palantir guy who, you know, who's connected to technology that kind of tracks people
and fucking coals them in like sheep, like we just talked about saying, yeah, let's just imprison all
these people who, many of whom don't have contact with families, don't have people to represent
them, a lot of them have mental illness, and you'd have no idea, they probably have no idea where
they are. Yeah, that's not a little bit dystopian. Like, it's just, I point stuff like this out
because the way these people think, obviously is not like you and I, but everything's a data point.
And that includes people. We are zeros and ones to them. Yeah. There's no point fives. There's no
twos, there's no tens, there's no, you know, one times one has to equal two or three, whatever
turns Howard says. There's none of that. It's just zero or one. In the arcade, hit it or don't.
Yeah. And I think when people like that gain more and more power and influence, which is the
trend we have seen that has gotten us to the point we are, and that's where we get also people like
the Epstein class, which Peter Thiel is a member of, you know,
I don't see how that ends well for the American Empire, if you will.
Like, I don't, I say that tongue in cheek, but like, I don't see how that ends well.
And I say that as an optimist.
So we're going to point out stuff like this, as we always do on the show, because it's just another, not a little, not a little data point using their language.
Yeah, I'm convinced he wants to turn these people into Soiling Green.
That's the real, that's the real long game.
Soiling Green, like the movie.
Yeah, yeah. And Soiling Green is people.
Soilent Green is people. They should feed one of these unhoused people to him as food.
Because instead of like a child and be like, how do you like that?
There's a nice metal ground.
How do you like that, pal?
There's a nice metal ground. How did that taste, Joe?
Yeah. Taste that one, Joe.
Yeah. Now, what if he likes it?
We got that guy on Melrose. He didn't, he was missing a foot when we got him.
Now, what if he likes it, though? What if he's like really so far gone?
He's like, this tastes great.
Ladies and gentlemen, the child trafficking crisis is over.
We just solved it.
It's like, have you ever seen Midnight Alley?
No, I haven't.
Okay.
It's like, yeah, we're gonna, you got a job.
We'll give you some food, roof over your head.
It's only temporary.
It's only temporary.
That's right.
That was all spec, Joe.
We don't sue me.
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, look, we joke here.
That's what we do.
We're just doing comedy.
You got to make comedy of the madness.
That's what it is.
But Elon Musk.
that's the one that you got it depends on the day you catch me on and it depends what the most recent thing he did was where i'm zero or a hundred on him i'm like not i mean it's some sort of mix i'd like to think but god damn are there some are there so many discrepancies with him where it's like you know cool weed guy friends of peter teal yeah doge creator shuts the fuck up about
everything that's going to cost him a government contract.
Free speech guy, but also won't let Grock comment on things when it's affecting his paycheck.
Brilliant innovator or guy who's in front of all the people doing the innovation.
Or a mix.
Like, it's a lot there.
And then he's got opinions on every goddamn thing and he owns a platform.
Like that's a maybe a catch-22.
You brought back free speech in a lot of ways for sure.
It's not perfect, but like, it's way better than it was, which also means you've got to see some stuff sometimes that you're like, Jesus Christ, that's...
I don't know about that one, hush.
But that's what free speech is.
It's not clean.
It's painful.
And it is way better than the alternative.
I've said that before he bought it.
I've said it.
When he bought it, I said it since he bought it.
And that's what it is.
But like then, how many followers does you have on there?
210 million or something?
Whatever it is.
Yeah.
He's got a big...
platform and then he kind of says whatever the fuck he wants, which includes him talking out of his
ass on things. Or astroturfing shit. And then I'm supposed to sit there and be like, oh, this looks
really organic and natural. That's right. They really caught the algorithm on the show. Yeah, because he's got
no control over the other. Yeah, it has zero control. Now, he did open source some of the algorithm,
right? I saw even the other day he just released more of it. Okay. You could see how it works.
Again, you got to like, but like if I was astro turtour,
surfing stuff. I'd be like, guys, we should make something that appears as though like people can see what it's like.
Yes. They can check it out. I know that wasn't really eloquent the way I just said. No, no. I agree. That was fine. It's, it's just, I don't want to live in a world where I assume everyone who has some degree of what we might define that power is bad. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I also don't want to live in a world like I was born fucking yesterday and pretend that you shouldn't look on a case by case basis.
at everyone and question everything you see and hold people who have significant power to a
responsible standard. And that's a, that's a pun on the old quote from Spider-Man. With great power
comes great responsibility. And part of that means that the people, it's a total banger,
dude. Uncle Ben. Uncle Ben. Shout out Uncle Ben. Part of that means that the people that you may,
whether you planned for it or not, have some degree of social power over, which is all of us
when we're talking about someone like Elon Musk, you know, they have every right to audit that.
Yeah.
Like in a lot of ways, shows like ours, and there are many on the internet, part of the job is to be an auditor of that.
And so with him, when I look at a Peter Thiel and I audit things, man, it don't look good.
It's just not a lot of light in that darkness there.
And in fact, at the top of my head, I can't really think of any.
I'll say this. He's a brilliant innovator. He just innovates things that are killing us. So, you know, I mean brilliant innovator from the sense of like smart businessman. But like every James Bond villain was a smart businessman, you know. So guys like that, it's a little more straightforward and we've gotten more and more evidence on that over the years. A guy like Elon Musk has some contradictions. He has some things that I think as I laid out are clearly not great. And then he's got some things that's like, well, that's not the
worst thing I've ever seen. And so I'll always look at it that way. But one of the wild contradictions
with Elon Musk that I think about probably once a day is his whole odyssey with AI. So back in 2018,
2019, I got really obsessed with artificial intelligence and the coming technology and learning about
it and seeing what it could do. And I, you know, I'd go to talk about it with other people. And a lot of
people kind of look at me like I had 10 heads to be like, yeah, it's not here. Who cares? It's not here
yet. And I'm like, how, how can fuck of people not be so interested in this? Then, you know, 2020 came.
I started to kind of put it aside because no one would talk about it. And then boom,
2023 comes in and suddenly it starts becoming a thing. 24, it really sets in. Obviously,
now we're living in Boomer AI Slopville. Elon Musk, very publicly and known to most of you,
I'm sure, was out there aggressively.
And I mean aggressively anywhere where there was a running microphone in the 2010s.
He was yelling from the top of the rooftops about AI and the dangers.
And I, you know, I don't like being a dumer on stuff.
But when someone like that who has access to a lot of things like him is saying the types of things he is, yeah, I'm going to pay fucking attention.
You're going to see we have some podcasts coming to their covering across the spectrum of AI from Pete.
Like we have one coming with Lee Kronin this week where who's, you know, a DARPA chemist and scientist, brilliant guy.
I've had him on the show before.
But like he thinks we're going to be fine.
And then you're going to see one with Connor Leahy coming out about a week after that that we just recorded where he's very concerned about this and has worked inside AI and is a little bit more towards the Dumer side.
Not full-blown Dumer.
He thinks we can get out of it, but he just thinks we're coming towards a crisis.
Elon Musk is someone that I would describe as speaking like a Dumer in the 2010s.
In fact, I've cited the book Super Intelligence by Nick Bostrum many, many times on the show.
I believe Elon wrote one of the insets on the book back when that came out in 2018.
And it's a very dense read.
It's not like a fun read, but one of the wildest reads I've ever had back then.
And it paints to all these basically like decision trees of where AI could go,
including all the worst case scenarios to where like, yeah, it becomes super intelligence.
takes over and we all fucking die. And Elon Mosters really pumping books like this. And he,
you know, he famously talked to Obama about it when Obama was still in office all the way back in
2014, warning him about AI. Point being like he was on record for a long time saying, we got a big
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Then, in the earliest days in that same era of open AI, I forget,
what it was, Deep, was he listed as a co-founder?
He was involved in running open AI when it started.
Yeah.
2015, he co-founded it.
He co-founded it, okay?
And he left in 2018.
Left in 2018.
And he hates Sam Altman and fights with him publicly.
At least that's what we see as the narrative.
And they were in a lawsuit together, I believe right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll get a picture of them like Nome Chomsky and Steve Bannon soon one of these days.
Right.
just white boys with motion.
Yeah, that's what it's going to be.
Just white boys with motion.
But like at least on paper, that's what it is.
And he calls attention to, you know, the articles like the one Ronan Farrow did on Sam Altman where he's listed as a psychopath by people around him and people he's worked with.
Elon regularly calls attention to stuff like that and remains very concerned about the stuff that OpenAI does.
But as the 2020s came in, he got quieter.
I would say overall on the decibel volume about AI.
And he also then, especially after he bought Twitter, started investing hard into it and leaning all the way into it.
He now has at SpaceX. He has SpaceX AI.
I know for a fact, I don't, I, well, now it's public.
I'm just going to be, I'm pretty sure what I'm thinking of is public, but I'm not going to say the exact detail.
He has XAI too.
Right.
But hold on.
D.F.
I want to stay on this.
so I want to make sure I get this right. I know for a fact, I'll put it this way that
SpaceX AI, if that's what the holding company is called,
has actively bought some major AI companies recently.
I had a friend at a company that was bought that I think is public,
but I'm just going to hedge right now because we're doing this live,
and I'm not positive that that's fully announced in public.
But basically like, they're ramping that the fuck up.
He builds, as Defe just said, he built XAI, which as we all know,
includes Grock in building that tool and he shows Grock all the time. And Grock is, you know,
it's had some weird coding. I'm going to get to that. That's perfect, Dief. I'm going to get to that one
second. Grock, you know, has had some coding issues and some funny public coding issues in the
past and everything. But it's also been like at times a really good tool for people to reply to
post that they see in saying Grock, is this true? Can you verify? And like, it's useful in some ways.
you just have to wonder where it may have bias in other ways you can't see.
Yeah, for sure.
And Elon pushes the shit out of this.
So yes, on one hand, still fighting with Sam Altman.
And then on the other hand, he's like, full speed head with AI.
Yeah.
And he's coming out here talking about how money won't, what do you say?
Like money won't exist in five years or something, which I think is bullshit.
Elon's made some claims in the past like, you know, we're going to do this in three years.
And then three years comes and it doesn't happen.
Like he loves to make big claims like that, you know, and shoot for stuff.
Fine.
But like he's not always right about that by any stretch.
And like the money argument, I should have talked about that with Simon when he was here.
But that it doesn't make any sense to me.
I can't visualize how that would even work or be possible without more on this in a minute,
some sort of civilization altering event that severely.
impacted the global population.
Yeah, that's why we got to let them
take care of it. Yeah, that's right. We're idiots.
That's right. We're just the dumb asses
talking about it on YouTube. But yeah, we'll.
Yeah, well.
Anyway, so
he's been a series of contradictions
on AI. And I'd love to get some true serum in that guy
and just see what he thinks. But
I say all this because he shared a video
this week.
I believe he got the shit ratio. Can we go
out of this for a sec, thief? I think he got the shit
ratioed out of them on this. Yeah, this has 32,000 comments on it. So for an account of his size
getting that kind of, I mean, that counts as a ratio even if it's not like a negative ratio,
because he still had a lot of likes on it. But he types out, this is the future we shall bring
into being, which again, I'm not hearing him say that tonally, but when I read that, that sounds
like to me, this is happening. There's nothing you can do about it. And you know what?
this looks pretty good to me.
Yeah.
And let's just play some of this and what it is for people that didn't see it.
But yeah.
Together.
Oh, nice.
Together.
Robot hand, human hand.
We built a new future.
Now, that's kind of cool.
The floating cars thing is cool.
She's a fake AI.
I don't like that.
That's a robot.
I don't like that.
Earth was in harmony.
It's harmony.
Everyone's happy.
There's no crime.
It's a profession.
But above the sky.
is where we became limitless.
Above the skies, we became limitless.
What is the, is that like a death star?
Luna was the first site for large-scale space engineering.
Oh nice, so we're engineering on the moon,
so the moon exists.
It was from here.
Got it.
We pushed onward.
Okay, it looks like a little base.
We built our first interplanetary city.
So that would be Mars.
So he's colonizing Mars.
There's Matt Damon.
New Olympus.
New Olympus.
We can do better.
Slowly, the essence of Earth took root.
Are those supposed to be like the tree of life?
There's a floating subway.
Now, what happens if that thing gets mad?
The asteroid built.
Right?
We tapped into nearly infinite material.
Deep's not like him.
Yeah.
About the book?
No, but the robot...
...beau the rose above the acid clouds of Venus.
Proving the harshest worlds could be reimagined.
Uh-huh. Is that a zoo?
No, that's people. Oh, it's an enclosed box like a Truman show. That's nice.
Now that looks kinda cool. Okay, that's like Tokyo.
That's like Berlin.
Oh, that's not what I was thinking.
Okay. Yeah, the red little laser lights.
Now you haven't sex with robots or people?
Does that create a new race or like you just empty the load?
You empty, okay.
That's like a flying batmobile.
40 kilometers beneath your over surface.
The silence broke.
Oh, so this is like now they're doing submarine shit.
Oh, they're finding underwater aliens now.
Look at it.
So he's admitting aliens would exist.
We learn to channel the chaos.
Energy conversion base on another planet.
I don't even know the planet that was.
I missed that.
There's a lot of fire and shit.
It looks out.
That's straight out of fucking interstellar right there.
That's literally out of Amherstah.
They were burnt.
Like the circular, right?
Yeah.
I also don't like this lady's tone.
She's really AI.
I guess that's like a fake sun.
Uh-huh.
What will become?
Oh, a robot holding a human baby.
The rest.
And it's got bionic eyes.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, that's a genetically modified robot hybrid baby.
There's nothing.
Isn't it funny?
Nothing weird about that.
They always.
make it a point to say like these communists and socialists are always going to promise you utopia uh
hitler and Stalin hated each other i know and it seems like he's promising the same shit he's
always like oh these fucking idiots that's right and i say that because they hate each other they're the same
guy yeah people hate people who are massively narcissistic set in their ways and
autocratic, if you will, they want control. And when they see someone else who wants that too,
who happens to have the same themes under a different flag, if you will, when it comes to methods,
they hate that person because it's really an insecurity of how much they hate themselves.
I'm just speaking out loud here, you know, going off a deep start there because it's a valid thought.
But when I see the end of a video being a robot holding a human baby that's then revealed when you see its eyes to be some sort of bionic robot hybrid, and I see the guy who owns X saying we shall bring this world into being, I start to think that maybe all the people talking about a transhumanist fucking psycho generation of people trying to lead us into the next whatever utopic hellhole really is an actual accepted thing that exists.
towards the top there. Not that I didn't already kind of think that, but when people are telling
you who they are like this, you should probably listen. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Mars. Old Mars.
We're going to go to Mars. And really, it's, the class disconnect exists across the spectrum.
it exists across
the spectrum of riches,
which includes a spectrum of IQ,
okay?
Because I don't think I'm going to accuse Elon Musk
of having a low IQ.
I'll definitely give him that.
It's got very, very high IQ.
But someone with maybe not an IQ like Elon Musk,
probably fair to say, Joey D. Freck.
Yeah, I don't have one like that.
Well, I wasn't going to say you.
I was going to say someone who happens to be really rich
who is a little disconnected
who maybe doesn't have an IQ like Elon Musk
would be Kylie Jenner.
Yeah, well.
Is that, is that like Joey Diefway saying would?
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
I think it would either.
Yeah, I think it would be there.
But Kylie Jenner put out a vlog this week.
And, you know, bless her heart.
I'm sure she had good intentions with this and, you know,
just needs maybe some better managers around her to stop her from pressing send on certain things.
But she put out a vlog.
showing about her life in Santropay.
Nice.
Okay.
So, you know, just as a general law, a lot of times when you pronounce some sort of place where
the last letter is silent, it's usually a nice enclave.
That's a pretty good rule of thumb right there.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Especially if it's like French.
Yeah, Santropé.
Like, you know that the average demographic there that's run the economy is pretty well off.
So let's just start there. And listen, if you have money, and she's a, I believe Kylie's a billionaire
off of her brand, like, yeah, I mean, that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that.
But you have to read the room a little bit. You have to look at the vibes. You have to look out
at America and, at least if I would say, if I were in that position, I'd say, you know,
I'm really fortunate. I live a great life. I'd like to think in that type of position,
I'd certainly give back a lot. Maybe Kylie Jenner does. I don't know much about.
that I don't want to accuse her of not giving back if she does but you know I would look out at
society and I'd be aware of things I'd be talking to normal people just like I did when I didn't
have money and I'd be saying huh seems seems a little harder out here than it was 20 years ago
yeah right right I mean this is asking a lot this is how I would do it but yes Joey D is right
this apparently asking a lot of people like this because at a time where around half of Americans don't
have $500 in emergency savings.
Kylie Jenner, who has no economic incentive, I'd say, at this point to have to post content,
have to post long form content showing her life behind the scenes.
You know, she was nice enough to give us this six and a half minute vlog of her life.
Let's play a little bit of this, Joey Dief.
So this is Kylie Jenner this week from Santroke.
We just finished our workout, last workout, before I did.
I couldn't really film much of it.
I like girl that works out.
And now I'm gonna go pack.
She's gonna go pack.
Let's go pack.
Let's go pack.
Okay guys, this looks a little crazy right now.
But this is what it really looks like.
These are new racks of clothes.
We tailored all of this for my trip.
There is not one thing from Target in there.
So I'm gonna try all of my dresses on.
Make sure the tailoring is good.
Tailoring is good.
And then start packing.
We lay out all our shoe options.
Oh, there's a lot of shoe options there.
I'm not going to take everything.
I can't see red bottoms, but I notice some lubitons in there.
She does have towel.
We'll take that one.
We'll take that one.
We'll take that one.
We'll take that one.
And then Joey Diff cut forward to 3.30 on there.
Because we're going to get in the G-wagon.
and then here's the private jet.
Here's the private jet.
Door getting opened.
Again, it's fine.
You're rich.
It's fine.
But like six and a half minutes of this.
Okay.
Six and a half minutes.
Let's go to Europe.
Okay, let's go to Europe.
Hi, guys.
Hello.
Good.
How are you?
I'm so good.
I know.
I know.
I get to go to this private jet.
Let me just show the whole world
by the chance fucking eat at home.
Got to get the steps in. Nothing wrong with that.
Should I fly the plane today?
Yes, you should. Yes, Queen.
Oh, look. Look, got to make sure we have the...
Snacks.
Oh, we got snacks. Sushi. Very nice sushi. We got her initials engraved into the seats.
She's always sleeping.
Very nice bed right there. Kylie Air, the TV.
are branded with Kylie here.
Got to get a little hair check in.
All right we get the picture right here.
What I really want to do is I want to read the tweet above it because I think this guy nailed it.
I don't know who this is.
It's at Ugupnik on Twitter.
So shout out Ugopnik.
One of the filthiest instincts of 21st century capitalists is their need to retain their
vapid existence through self-exposure to the masses.
Unspoken wealth disparity on its own no longer does the trick.
You must stream your superiority directly into the eyeballs of every man, woman, and child.
It's not let them eat cake. It's let them watch me eat cake. This, thankfully, in turn, helps
distance the masses from capitalist cultural dominance as they're exposed to the absurd disparities
many of us would otherwise struggle to help people see and understand. Similar to how footage from
Gaza helps spawn billions of anti-Zionists by turning an idea into something that they could see with their own eyes.
This will spawn countless anti-capitalists as the system further destabilizes, digging their own class grave one video at a time.
I say let them post.
That's such a bar he had up there.
It's not let them eat cake.
It's let them watch me eat cake.
Meaning he's pointing out so perfectly that the self-awareness is at a minus 100.
It's not a zero.
It's at a minus 100.
There is no ability to have that responsibility.
and understanding and basic gratitude of like, okay, I've earned a lot for myself.
And people, she's a Kardashian, so people are going to say also like, well, the Kardashians have
sold out to be able to make a lot of money.
But like, let me give her the credit for a minute, just for the sake of argument here,
made a lot of money on a brand, great job.
You don't need to throw it into people's faces.
And it's a very strange paradigm that's happened on social media.
Now, there's a lot of people watching the show who have just gotten into it this year.
And now I'm grateful to you guys.
A lot of you guys are watching the episodes during the week as well, which I've been doing for years and built that whole audience before we started doing the weekend show.
Me and Dave here as well.
But for the people who are new this year and maybe haven't heard on many other episodes over the years, me discuss my favorite theory of all time.
I feel like now's a pretty good time to do that.
Because back in 2019, this guy, Charlie Rocket, I'll never forget this, went on a four and a half minute rant on the Ed Milet podcast.
This was in late 2018, early 2019, where he described this secret to the universe that he had figured out in the most innocent of ways that it's kind of an overstated thing to say this.
but I'm telling you the second I watched this video and it finished,
it completely changed my life.
And it didn't change my life because it changed the way that I thought about the world.
What it did is it confirmed the way I had already lived my life to that point,
which by the way, at that point I do need to say I had nothing.
I wasn't on the internet.
I didn't have a podcast yet.
Didn't have anything to go on.
But like as a human being, it described the way I had lived my life.
and set an amazing example for me that if my life was going to change and maybe I was going to end up doing something public, that this is the baseline you always have to hold yourself to because not only is it the right way to live, it is also the way that has been proven again and again that the people who are most inspirational across generations and centuries have lived their life. And so what this theory was called, Charlie named it the IMU theory.
For people who don't know Charlie, he's now a friend of mine.
He's someone that years later in 2025, he actually saw me talking about the IMU theory and was pumped and reached out.
And then came on my show for episode 352, which was a fucking amazing conversation.
But Charlie Rocket was as he would, his real name is Charlie Jabali, but his nickname is Charlie Rocket.
Charlie Rocket, as he would self-describe himself, was a fat kid in his mom's basement.
and he loved hip hop fucking loved it grew up on it and so eventually when he was a young teen he built
like a studio in his basement he was living in right outside Atlanta so he starts inviting over
some guy connecting with and inviting over some guys on the hip hop scene in Atlanta and eventually
this one guy walks in there and long story short dude was two chains and it was two chains before
he was two chains and charley became his manager and the rest was history right
And Charlie became a massive success, all these things in the industry and, you know, totally self-made.
But he'd always had health problems because he was a bigger guy and wasn't living a healthy lifestyle.
And so eventually he got a brain tumor.
And he lost a lot of weight to be able to, you know, be healthy in the future and help his body fight back against that.
And he'd always had this dream being an athlete.
That led him to making a video for, what was it, $600, Joey D?
something like that. He made a video for, he told the whole story on the podcast, just like fucking
amazing. He made it, made an incredible video for $600 that Nike picked up and were blown away by it,
that they then took him because he trained for an Iron Man and ran in it. They then used that
as part of the narrative to put him in this massive commercial with LeBron and Serena,
really, really, really cool stuff. And so he kind of got to live his childhood dream after
already being successful in something else and getting himself healthy. And he was always a guy,
who and to this day wears it on his sleeve his the good the bad his struggles his happiness all of it
i've just always admired him but he talked about this theory the i am you theory on the ed my let show
like i said for the first time ever publicly and what he said is he's like he was sitting around one
day and he just thought to himself he's like i wonder who the highest grossing superhero of all
time is so that's film sales tv show sales comic book sales anything
thing put together. And so he goes into Google, do do do do. And to his surprise, it was Spider-Man.
He was expecting it was going to be Batman or Superman, you know, good looking, muscular,
chiseled chin, gets all the girls, has the money or whatever, you know, that kind of thing.
But a Spider-Man, he said that's really, really interesting. So he thought more about Spider-Man.
He's like, okay, average, kind of scrawny. You know, he has a sad story too. His parents died. He lives
and uncle. They're at best
lower middle class, probably lower
class. He's not popular.
He's a nerd. He's got a weird
talent. You know, it's not like he's
someone who soars
through the air like in shining armor.
He's a fucking spider.
And where's this full body suit
and everything. And then,
you know, he wants the girl, but he can't
get the girl. And he's, Charlie's
putting this all together. He's like, this is
so fucking relatable.
Okay. What about religion?
So he types in, what is the biggest world religion by following?
Christianity.
He goes, okay, Christianity.
Who's the hero of Christianity?
It's like, Jesus Christ.
Okay.
Carpenter hung around with poor people, had, you know, sometimes where he'd talked to a lot of people in a crowd, but usually had about 12 followers around them.
He wore regular clothes at a time where the most popular people with the most power rode around with golden armor.
on a beautiful shining horse because they're above you and everything. This guy walked
often in barefoot with the people, hung out with lepers, you know, and the undesirables,
the people that society had cast it aside. He's very humble. He's like, that's really interesting.
He's like a normal guy and people relate to him. He goes, all right. So you got Spider-Man,
he got Jesus. If this could be true with corporations, then we're really on to something. Because, you know,
We all think of corporations.
It's like, oh, God, here we go.
So he's like, all right, what's the most popular corporation of all time?
He looks in his hand.
He holds up his phone and goes, Apple.
We all have it in our fucking hand.
And he's like, okay.
They were also like the Silicon Valley OG.
Who started Apple?
He thinks about it.
And he goes, Steve Jobs.
Now, Steve Jobs was an imperfect guy.
I also kind of wore that on his sleeve.
But this was the first corporate titan that said,
fuck the suit.
wore normal tattered clothes and jeans. He had a beard. He looked like your dad. And at a time where all
these tech companies would come up and they're building the new frontier and they name all their
products, you know, in Spirons, 63,000 and bullshit like that. Steve Jobs named his products
Lisa, iPod, iPhone. He named the products after you. He wanted you to see yourself in the products.
And then, you know, he dies and there's memorials.
People are crying.
He's like this legend.
And, you know, for a corporate titan, that's unheard of.
Well, I mean, we always ask the question today.
Like, what if Steve Jobs were alive?
How might things be different?
Because he was a guy that was willing to go against the grain and say, hey, maybe, maybe we should,
maybe we should chill with this kind of shit.
You know, even in the early days, I believe it was Steve.
He didn't even let his kids have the phones when they first came out because he was concerned
where that was going. And then he died before, like he died in, I guess, 2011. So right when the iPhones
were coming into full mainstream adoption. But this guy was relatable. So he's like, oh my God.
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And he's like, all right, it's not LeBron's fault.
It's not Kobe's fault.
But like when you think of sports and you think of icons,
someone that walks on water who,
you know, people treat like a god. It's Michael Jordan. So put aside Michael Jordan post his career
at this point who's like the billionaire kind of reclusive guy, gone away from the cameras, you know,
all that. Think about Michael Jordan when he was in his career and when he was on his rise and
his journey to get there. Again, not LeBron's fault, but LeBron was called the king when he was
14 by a bunch of dudes and suits who came up to see him at a gym. That's not his fault, but
Like, he's not like you.
He's a genetic specimen.
Okay.
Michael Jordan was the scrawny kid that got cut from his high school basketball team.
He's the guy that had to fucking go to UNC eventually after he proved himself in high school,
had to prove himself again at UNC.
Wins a title at UNC still isn't the first pick in the draft.
Not the second pick in the draft either.
In fact, he's drafted behind Sam fucking Bowie.
You go who?
Exactly.
Comes into the NBA is immediately great, but doesn't.
get his flowers and is not respected for a lot of years. In fact, he's cast aside by the guys like
Isaiah Thomas. There's even a point he broke his foot in his second season, comes back by the time
the playoffs, fuck it, and 70 on Larry Bird and the Celtics. And Larry Bird, who's a legend,
says after the game, I think I saw Jesus Christ on the basketball court today. But Michael Jordan
still didn't get that respect. And it took seven years to get over the hump before he won his first
title. Then he has the apex of success. He's the man. He's the man. He's.
He was the earliest guy with the shoe deal, and now that starts to become a thing, like, big time.
And he wins three titles in a row.
He's like the best player in the world.
And then his dad gets murdered tragically.
And he has grief and sadness and tragedy on a scale that many people unfortunately can relate to.
And in the middle of that, he literally leaves it all behind and goes and plays baseball, which was his first sport, the sport his dad loved as well.
And he tries to go, you know, well, full pro, but semi-pro in the fact that he wasn't in the MLB.
And he's playing in the minor leagues with the White Sox organization.
And, you know, he wasn't the worst player ever.
But, you know, you go from being top dog to a dude who is kind of embarrassing himself as the eight or nine hole hitter batting 200 on a minor league baseball team, you know, making fucking 10 grand a year.
You know, he did that on a public stage.
He fleshed out his grief and his, you know,
midlife struggle in that way in front of everyone.
And then he came back and he rose back up.
He won three in a row and he's the greatest ever.
There is nothing like looking at tape of a basketball game on a fucking Tuesday in 1997 before iPhones
and looking around the full stadium and seeing a picture from the court of every single person in the stands
standing up with cameras flashing because number 23 in a bull's uniform is walking onto the court.
No one's ever had that effect.
And so looking at his rise and what happened with him, he was relatable.
He had struggle.
He was a real person.
It wasn't given to him.
Not to say other guys have had a given to him, but like they're not like you.
Kobe was the black mamba, right?
He's different.
He's not like you.
Michael Jordan was you.
You could be Michael Jordan.
Charlie pointed out he had the song because I'm like you and he's like me.
and look at what like that's that was jordan so you got you got superheroes you got religion you got
corporations you have sports and what all these legends of those respective categories prove is that
ironically in a world where we are now living through social media as if we have to show people
look at me look how great i am look at all the things i have look what i do look at how i'm different than you
look up to me, follow me because I'm better, like a video that we see right there from a Kylie
Jenner. The real paradigm throughout history, the people who live as legends long after they're gone
are the people who actually do the opposite and say, look at what I go through. These are the types
of things that all people have to go through. You can be just like me. That's why you should follow me.
I'll be an inspiration, not someone saying, hey, just follow me and maybe, you know,
you can see what it's like and then keep living your life.
That is a really, really interesting dichotomy there.
To this day, it still gives me goosebumps when I talk about it.
That's not the best I ever described it right there for sure.
So that was a little long-winded, but amazing, amazing theory from Charlie Rocket.
So when I see thematically everything on the spectrum from like tech titans pointing to some fucking
transhumanist world with robots and AI and shit that they're going to bring in.
What do you say, we shall make this world come to pass or whatever?
You know, we're clearly referring to guys like him doing that, like Elon Musk.
Because don't worry, let the adults handle this.
And then when I see someone like Kylie Jenner having to post a six and a half minute blog
about her fucking two-day trip to Santropay and how she's bowling and all this shit,
I see people who are constantly, whether they realize it or not, reminding you,
that you are not them, you can't be them, but enjoy the view.
And there's something really, really broken in society with that, for sure.
Yeah, I got nothing to add to that.
Fuck them.
Fuck them.
Fuck them.
You know who else we should say fuck them to?
Who?
Benjamin Netanyahu.
Old Ben.
Old Ben.
He was in town.
The balls on this guy.
The balls on Benjamin Netanyahu are just, unfortunately,
enormous. I don't even, I don't like saying that as a compliment. The guy's a fucking living
demon. But the fact that this guy has the audacity to fly here to the UN and lecture everyone on,
I can't even say this with a straight phrase, from the moral high ground. It's actually
stunning at this point. Because I've said this many times. This is not a stupid man. He's a very
evil man. A living infamous devil for sure. But he's not stupid at all. And it just, you know,
we were just talking about rich people in America from Elon to Kylie not being able to read a room.
This is a guy actively committing genocide and ethnic cleansing, not being able to read a room,
filled with other countries, many of whom have tried to censure his country over and over again
and have only been stopped by America's veto vote because we have a very unholy alliance with
the Israeli government, pun intended. But one of the things that Benjamin Netanyahu and other people
who back his cause have said since October 7th that particularly bothers me is a bar that he
dropped again in this speech to the UN, which is quite disgusting.
on every level. Let's play that first one. Deef the first link right there.
This is, this is, I want to play it and then we'll react. Go ahead.
I want to give you an idea what this means for a country of 10 million.
Proportionally, this is equal to 40,000 innocent Americans slaughtered in less than 24 hours.
He's talking about October 7th.
That's 16 times 9-11.
16-9-11s.
16-9-11.
That occurred not very far from here.
Not far from here.
Yeah.
I want to give you an idea what this means.
Okay.
The reason I have a problem with this line is because he doesn't even understand the irony that he is,
he is quite literally putting a higher value on a life in his country.
Then let's let's put the Palestinians aside for a second.
We're going to get to that in a minute.
But like just talking about America over here who's funding his bullshit, we are funding his bullshit.
He is saying that their lives in Israel,
are worth, what was it, 16 times what our lives are worth.
This is what guys like him do in that government.
They play the victim on things that have happened to them,
and they have to one up you with bad things that happen to you.
Okay?
You know, we lost six million in the Holocaust.
That's worse than the polls who lost three million.
So let's only talk about ours that got lost.
That's bullshit.
And last I checked, I haven't heard a poll.
complain about that. Shout out to my Polish listeners out there. All killing is bad. All genocide
is bad. All ethnic cleansing is bad. I don't give a fuck who does it. You want me to call it out in
Rwanda? You want me to call out Saudi Arabia's government. You want me to call out Israel.
You want me to call out the Chinese with the Uyghurs. You want me to call out the Bush Cheney
government that fucking sponsored our guys to go over there and God knows how many lives got lost
that were completely unnecessary in the Iraq war. I'll talk about all of it. It's all bad. It's all
This isn't hard.
But when you have to try to say, look at how bad our struggle is, this is why you got to pay us more and why we should be able to kill as many Palestinians as we want, by the way, don't exist.
His words, not mine, obviously.
You know, because we lost 16, it was 16 9-11s on October 7th.
I'm going to get to what Hillary Clinton said in a minute because even she's saying it's an inside job.
But like, fuck you, dude.
And you're saying it in the city where we had 9-11.
11, which we still don't have answers for 25 years later. And by the way, I'd love to know what
your five Mossad spies were doing in fucking Fort Lee that day. That's neither here nor there.
I'm sick. I've obviously been sick of this guy. You guys all know that. But like, I just really
wish he didn't exist anymore on the earth that we all share. I think that's a fair way to say.
Now, Dief's taking the words out of my mouth here perfectly. Someone replied, I love this reply from
at Terry by the by the bay is that right yeah she said using the same mathematical proportions
Israel has murdered 7.92 million Palestinians you want to play this game too can play it pal
everyone's got a calculator so if you want to do that you cannot have it both ways it's going to be
described the other way deep did you did you get some uh I got this right here
love it love it okay you're from the UN you're you're on it okay okay
all from the UN where he's speaking and making this point.
Let's play this second clip first,
and then Joey Deef has a beautiful fact check on this
of Benjamin Netanyahu talking about
the peaceful settlers in the West Bank,
which, by the way, shout out to Ceylon Tour,
our boy Nolan, we got a podcast coming with him
in a week or two, who just did some great documenting
over in the Middle East on both sides,
by the way, he covered it all,
where, you know, it's literally just proved in one of his little videos being there, this isn't true.
But let's hear from Netanyahu himself.
What they cover is a handful of young juvenile delinquents.
Juvenile delinquents.
A number who go or throw stones.
Throw stones, that's all.
Who chopped down olive trees.
Occasionally they do, they fire up.
They lit some fires.
I can't stand.
I can't stand for.
vigilanteism.
I don't stand for it.
We're a country of law.
Right.
Law.
So we put our shing bed on them.
That's right.
But that's what they call settler violence.
Mm-hmm.
And the number of casualties a year, maybe two or three.
Maybe two or three.
That is just like.
This is being discussed, maybe two or three dead compared to the thousands of terrorist attacks.
Thousands.
Against the peaceful settlers.
I'm the victim.
Honorable people.
He's saying, law-biting people.
Pause that right there.
Honorable people, law-abiding people.
Notice what he said.
he didn't say the thousands of terrorist attacks upon Israel or whatever, which already wouldn't be true.
If he's referring that, especially like on a yearly basis or a few year basis.
He's saying on the settlers.
It's not enough that he's denying that some of the settlers are terrorists, which by the way, I don't know if you saw this Joey Deef.
Mike fucking Huckabee, Israel Mike went to the took the binoculars finally.
He's been asked to do this.
The U.S. ambassador to Israel who's in the tank and has Netanyahu's cock in his mouth at all times.
He was finally had to answer the calls and go with some Palestinian representatives to the edge of one of the settler towns.
I don't even remember which one it was.
And he then in a press conference afterwards very nervously said, and he was like, and I've said this before.
It's terrorism.
Even Mike fucking Huckabee called him terrorists.
But Benjamin Netanyahu runs to the UN
and talks to all the boomers on Fox News
who probably fucking eat it up.
Not our boomers that listen here,
you guys know what's up.
But the ones who were sitting there clocking that on Fox News
probably eat it up and go,
yeah, it seems like a smart guy.
You know, goes to them.
And it's not enough that he has to deny
that there's terrorists on his own side doing this.
He then has to turn it around and say,
no, no, no.
There's terrorists attacking our guys
who definitely aren't terrorists.
The level of gaslighting there would make Joseph Gerbell's fucking shiver in his pants.
He'd be like, that might be a little four.
I don't know if I could sell that one, Addy.
Like, like literally.
Now, Joey D, if you pulled this up, this is just some basic, basic stats.
And again, we've got a podcast coming on and all I'm going to talk about this.
Key incidents and trends from 2024 at 2026 in the first half of 2026, OCA recorded over
over 1,000 settler attacks causing casualties or property damage, suppressing previous records and affecting more than 230 Palestinian communities.
This followed an annual total of 8,835 recorded settler attacks.
Over 2,300 Palestinians, including over 1,000 children, have been displaced in 2026 alone.
According to UN Human Rights Monitor's OH-O-H-C-HR, dozens of Palestinians have been killed or injured annually in incidents directly involving settlers or
joint attacks with Israeli security forces. There's a stat too as well, D, if I should have had this
before. Can you check out? I want to make sure we source this correctly as well, so we'll take
the time to do it. I'll kill some time while you're doing it for sure. But can you
give me the number of settler of settler inflicted deaths recorded in the West Bank since October 7th,
2023? I don't remember the numbers. I don't want to say anything right now.
But we're, let's see if we can get this.
So this is from Google.
They're still saying, from the UN.
There's still 1,001 Palestinians killed in West Bank since 7 October 2023.
Now, it's from the UN.
Let's open that up.
Let's make sure we have the context here.
I do not want to get this wrong.
I don't want to just read the headline right there.
So the UN Human Rights Office and occupied Palestinian territory is appalled by the killing
of 9-year-old Muhammad Bajat al-Halik, who was shot by Israeli security force.
while playing football in Aria Hebron on Thursday, October 16th.
The fatality brings the total number of Palestinian killed by ISF and settlers since October 7,
2023 in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, to 1001.
One in five of the victims as a child, including 206 boys and seven girls.
The number also includes 20 women and at least seven persons with disabilities.
This does not include Palestinians who died in Israeli detention during the same
period. The figure represents 43% of all Palestinians killed in Occupy West Bank in the past 20 years.
So it is an enormous step up. Are there 22? Okay. And since October 7, 20, 23, 59 Israelis have been
killed in Palestinian attacks or armed clashes in the West Bank in Israel, including 16 women
and five children. Equally disgusting, by the way. I want to be very clear on that.
22 of the Israeli fatalities were members of the Israeli security forces.
So that would mean 37 of them were not.
And I abhor all violence on either side there, for sure.
The youngest of the fatalities is 2-year-old Leila Khatib, who was shot to death by ISF,
while the bedroom of her house in Al-Shahuda-Janene.
Layla was killed on 25 January 2025 during the Israeli operation known as Iron Wall,
which resulted in the emptying of three Palestinian refugee camps in Janine and Tolcom.
In another recent example of child killing on 8 September, Islam Marmagei and Muhammad
Mousadik, both age 14, were killed by the ISF while trying to get back into Janine refugee
camp posing no threat whatsoever to soldiers.
So to be clear, that figure of 1001 that Joadif pulled up obviously includes a lot killed
by Israeli security forces, which are not directly the settlers as far as I'm saying that
correctly, right, Joey D?
Yeah.
So we'd love to get numbers.
maybe people can help with good sources in the comments, and everyone fact-checked out as well in the comments,
that also separate out the number who have been killed by literal violence that we can even record, by the way,
that gets recorded and not covered up by actual settlers in the West Bank taking land from people.
So when Benjamin Netanyahu goes and denies this and says, there's no, they're just, you know, doing some fires,
it's it is it's a lie and and it's and it's the worst kind of lie because it is lying
about ethnic cleansing and murder i i can't really think of how it gets worse i mean maybe i'm
fucked up joie d but that seems pretty bad yeah i'd say so right yeah i'd say so and then you know
it's it's not a benjamin netting yahoo speech without giving some veiled threats
can you pull that first one up right there you see what you see what you
what one I'm talking about. Yep. That's it. Always got to wag the dick in front of everyone.
Let's get some volume on that. Bang, bang. Remember these? He's holding up a pager.
You remember the beepers? Remember these things? Remember them? Oh, look that. Yeah. Could be you.
Well, I can tell you this, because Bala certainly remembers them.
Yeah. Because they all blew up.
That's good, Johnny.
So if you remember the Mossad beeper operation back in 2024 where they blew up all these Hizbala guys where they stood and also inflicted casualties on people who were around them.
The fact that a world leader is trying to show the inches on his dick by threatening.
I take that as a veiled threat.
I'm not trying to be a pussy about that, Joey Deef.
Maybe I'm wrong here.
But like holding up the physical pager to a room where 70 countries or whatever.
it was, got up and left before you talk because they don't even want to be a part of this
and saying, hey, listen up, Malaka. This could be you. Like, again, we go back to reading the
room, something he doesn't do. There was more fearmongering there as well, Joey Deef. Because,
again, what would it be in that Nettanyahu's speech without warning about the issue
of Iran and how they cannot have a nuclear weapon?
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You're sitting here in the General Assembly Hall of the UN.
You know what one, one ton, just one, one ton,
one ton ballistic missile would do if it hit this place,
it would obliterate the entire compound.
In fact, two such missiles would obliterate the UN.
So you can imagine, think about 1,000 gigantic missiles
falling from the skies on your cities, on your homes.
I salute the courage of the people of Israel.
I salute the courage of our brave soldiers.
Okay.
You're sitting here.
Yeah.
Think about 1,000 of those ballistic missiles.
I want you guys to think about something else as well.
I want you to think about at least 300 undeclared nuclear weapons that exist on submarines.
As far as I know around the world, it's hard to know because it's never been admitted to that his government
has that they're the only country that has them that has not been forced to sign the treaties
where they admit that they have them. And they also are rumored pure spec from great Jewish-American
journalist Seymour Hirsch wrote a book about this 35 years ago about a so-called Sampson
option, which I genuinely hope doesn't exist, by the way. I hope Sigh is totally wrong about that.
I mean that. Dead seriously. Joey Deaf's laughing. But I mean that dead fucking seriously.
The Sampson option is a wink in a nod to the Bible where you have the story of Sampson,
who's this really strong guy.
He's captured by, I can't remember if it's the Philistines.
He's captured by his enemies.
And he was very strong because he had long hair.
So they cut off his hair and now he's weak.
And they tie him to the columns of the temple and he's weak.
But then his hair slowly starts growing back.
And one day, unbeknownst to his captors,
he's become strong enough that he can pull down the columns.
And so he knows in pulling down the columns he's going to kill himself.
But he kills all of his enemies and everyone else around him as well.
So everyone dies.
You can kind of translate the picture of what the Samson option would look like with 300 nukes in a country that pretends to not have them, even though the CIA has, I believe, released actual data in the past of the imagery they took in Demona in 1967, where they were able to test the uranium on the ground and prove that there was some sort of nuclear base there that the Israelis had had, which they got from our facilities in Pittsburgh and Ohio in the Numec affair in 1965.
kind of interesting that that did happen two years after JFK took fucking, I don't know, six bullets, however many it was, obviously not what they told us, when he had been the guy saying, hey, you guys aren't going to have news.
I don't know. That's just interesting to me. Obviously, pretty much the whole world, maybe except Nikita Khrushchev wanted JFK dead.
But it was certainly convenient for the Israelis as it was convenient for the CIA, the Pentagon, and many other people that he was out of the way because he represented, I don't know, maybe some peacemaker status on certain.
things Joey Diff, you're saying? Right? Yeah. And I'm not even going to play this clip, but
Netanyahu, again, world leader in the middle of a war where he's committing all these
atrocities and everything. Of course, when he comes to America and goes to the UN, who are the
people he needs to talk about Joey Dief? He needs to talk about the mayor of New York City
and streamer Hassan Piker, a Twitch streamer. Good for him. But, you know, Needs to
to make sure he hit them and made a point about what an existential threat they are to Israel.
I mean, the jokes write themselves. But I said, I want to talk about Hillary Clinton. So I'm going to
come back to the Jordanian king in a second, Thief, because that was interesting what he said.
We talked about him a lot in the past. But Hillary Clinton, we didn't talk about this.
Hillary Clinton, who, you know, to say she's deep state would, I think that would be disrespectful to deep staters, in fact, you know, like, you know, they're like, we're not like that.
But Hillary Clinton went on Morning Joe, MSNBC or what's it called now, MS now.
Yeah.
And said this a few weeks ago.
I want you to imagine this being said even a year ago by anyone prominent, let alone Hillary
Clinton, but let's run the tape, Joie Defe.
This bombshell that came out in the Israeli press where Nanyahu had been literally called
by, you know, Sheikh Mohammed, MbZ from UAE and warned that Hamas was planning something.
And either he didn't believe it or he won't, it's horrible to say, he wanted to see what they could plan so that he could come down hard and it would enhance his position.
his position. I don't know what his thinking was.
You see what she's saying right there.
That's the strongest implication ever.
And I'm going to journalistically say it is technically an implication.
She didn't explicitly go all the way there.
But she is very clearly saying, seems like an inside job to me.
This is the same event that he's now marketing three years later as 16 9-11s.
When you got Hillary Clinton going, hey, fella, inside job, I don't like that.
Hillary Clinton, whose husband took 18 visits in the White House from J.E.
Yeah.
You know.
Well, that's what I wonder.
I'm like, is it just a game back and forth?
Oh, sure.
Like, listen, you drop that Epstein shit.
Sure.
We're going to drop the bombshell that you let that shit go down.
Ladies and gentlemen, that's a Joey Deef cook right there.
Let's not lose that.
Come on.
Come on, son.
Let's not lose the noise in there.
100% correct, still wild that this is the bar they choose to say out loud.
Like, it's gotten that far that they're like, yeah, we can throw this one in there too.
Yeah.
That works.
Apart for the course.
Right.
Interesting.
Very, very interesting.
But I've talked about the Jordanian King over the years on the show because there's been multiple people.
Remy Adelaike, who's in the Navy Seals, has been on the show.
Great guy.
He knew the Jordanian King personally when he was serving over in the Middle East.
and you know the guy was a popular guy
because also the U.S. has a lot of military bases there
and then Joby Warwick who is as Tim Dillon would say
friend of the show been on here four times
he in the book in pretty much all of his books
has been able to use the king directly as a source
very interestingly as well
in honest and negative connotation sometimes too
meaning like the king as friends has become
come friends with Jobi Warwick and has openly helped him write books. And by helped him,
I mean, has been able to connect him with sources and, you know, provide on the record interviews.
That's really the main one right there. Like the king is telling him about, well, this happened and
this happened and whatever. And Jobi writes it in a way where he's reporting on it, but it also
includes enormous mistakes that, you know, guys like this from an optics perspective when you're
talking perspective when you're talking a world leader they don't like ever putting shit like that on the
record and he has done that which is fascinating to me that he's done that the first book joby wrote
about elbelloey who is the al-Qaeda guy who was a double agent and then blew up the coast base in
the middle east the u.s base in 2009 and killed a bunch of people that guy was a jordanian doctor
and it was a really bad look for jordan and when jobie wrote
the book, the king reached out to him afterwards and basically said, hey, this is a really
rough book for my government and my country. This doesn't make us look good, but I appreciate
you reporting the facts and not injecting all kinds of opinions in it. So if you need on the record
interviews from me in future books, I will do that. And Joby's next book was Black Flags about
ISIS which ended up winning the Pulitzer and again the first chapter is about how the guy who
ended up like being the godfather of ISIS Al-Sakawi he was actually accidentally released from
prison by the Jordanian king as a clerical error at the beginning of his reign and like
that's written right out in the front and
was admitted to by like it's just in it's always been interested like i remain there's things i
remain suspicious of there you always have to be with any world leader and anybody in a position
power but it's always been interesting that dynamic that like he's willing to say some things
like it is when it's unpopular to do so i have also cited how in the days after october 7th he was
at the jordanian king was at a conference i think somewhere in the middle east might have been
in Europe. I can't remember that part for sure. But he was out of conference and he was immediately
asked, will you accept Palestinian refugees into your country? And paraphrasing the answer, he was like,
I'm glad you asked me that. You want me to say yes. But the problem is if I do that and accept
refugees from Gaza, I'll be giving the worst elements of Israel's current government what they want.
they will be getting those people out of that area.
They will effectively ethnically cleanse it.
And those people will not be allowed back there in the future.
So no, it's not that simple.
I'm not turning them away because I don't empathize with them.
His wife is literally Palestinian, by the way.
He's like, I see the bigger picture here.
So he's always been an interesting guy.
You've got to be suspicious of some things for sure.
You know, I wasn't born yesterday.
But he's interesting.
And so at the same time that Benjamin Netanyahu's given his speech,
at the UN. This guy is given his speech at the UN and he says this.
This Israeli government's expansionist appetite is now a regional threat.
And today, Syria is the warning the international community is choosing not to see.
Repeated incursions, creeping territorial expansion, new facts imposed on the ground,
including around vital water resources.
vital water resources. Step by calculated step, Israel is testing how far it can go. And every time
the international community looks away, Israel learns that it can go even further across borderlines
and legal limits. Okay. This that's a guy who has been friendly with Israel throughout much of his reign,
by the way saying that.
So when I tell you publicly,
the tides are turning
everywhere
on actions that in the past
maybe would have been ignored,
you're seeing it play out at the UN
this past week.
You are seeing it play out.
And that could be interesting.
Now, I said we would get to the pardon broker stuff
and I might have fucked that up again
because we're running up towards the end here
and there's another thing that I have to do.
So Joey Deef, when we record this next one, make sure I do that.
That's my bed.
And I'm probably going to put a cut in at the beginning where I warn people that that's not going to get hit today.
But it'll be in the next one.
There was a video, though, that Chase Geyser put out of Jared Kushner.
Can you pull this one up?
It's under the Pardon Broker section, Dief.
It's the bottom link, Kushner prepping right there.
And like, this is one of those from like, all right, where are we going with this?
and then I keep watching it and I'm like oh oh maybe maybe Chase is cooking here
did you see this yet Joe Deef no it's the first time you're seeing this first time first time first time
you're seeing this okay here we go now remember before Joey Deve hits play Jared Kushner
buying islands buying an island off the coast of Albania right now that was floated to him by
at the Rothschild, by the way. His word's not mine. Look. Look at the goal. And here we go.
He's got in the back. Look at the globe. He's got in the back. What about it? That's not the
actual way the globe looks. This is the future map. Now pause that real quick. That could be a
little bit of spec. I looked at that a few times because it's faded in the background. He might be
right about that. I can't fully tell. Joey Deef. What do you think? Yeah, I don't know. I'll first watch.
I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Okay. Let's keep going.
With the flooding?
Is that one of the Navy or NASA maps that we played a few episodes back?
Yeah.
It's from a book he has on a shelf.
Now, here we go.
The new map.
The new map.
He's reading the book about the new map.
Energy, climate, and the clash of nations.
He's got the globe in the background with how the map's going to look, and he's buying islands.
Well, I mean, it makes a lot of sense.
A lot of people don't even think Kushner's 100% human.
I don't.
What is happening to him, dude?
Is the soul just being like sucked out of him?
All right, that's good right there.
Interesting.
It's interesting.
I was talking with someone else this week.
I have heard of a lot of people
telling other people I know behind the scenes
as well as some people I've talked to who are from well-to-do places,
you know, have access to some intelligence and stuff like that.
I have seen massive trends of these types of people getting dual citizenship.
And by the way, Joey Deef, a lot of them are getting dual citizenship in very similar places.
They're doing it in southern and eastern Europe, very, very common hot area I'm hearing.
And then when you look at the elite of the elite, the people I've never talked to, like the Jared Kushners, the Bayan Islands.
You know, they're looking at X's off the map, if you will.
Places that maybe they could get away to.
We've talked about the billionaire bunkers.
We had Doug Rushkoff on the show where he walked through that and the really creepy meeting he had back in 2017 with those five billionaires where they were asking him about how to plan for the event.
And the event was, you know, some crazy world-changing population decreasing event that would happen.
that was a foregone conclusion in their mind.
They weren't saying like, well, we wonder if they were like, it's the event.
It's going to be one of these five things or whatever.
And we just want to be ready for it.
So how do we build a bunker and get ready for it?
You know, and then you get reports from other people who recently just said this, Steve.
We just had someone here who was talking about this.
But maybe it was Brett Weinstein was saying that the bunkers, what he's heard,
are that a lot of no it wasn't brett someone else was telling me this a lot of the people that this
person has talked to i'm trying to remember the fuck told me that a lot of the people he knew who were
building bunkers were doing it out of fear that there was going to be some sort of social unrest
and that they'd be you know in the french revolution they'd be on the wrong side of the gate team
which obviously we never want to see something like that but again when you start seeing the divide
get so, so much, historically, things like that have happened.
And I think everyone should be on alert for something like that.
I never want to see something like that happen.
We have to be able to handle things to where the people are able to take back power and do it,
do it in the way that looks like the movie where the good guys win.
You know what I mean?
And that doesn't mean that it's not, that's ever perfect and that, you know, quote
on quote no one gets butt hurt for sure but you want to you want to try to do things in a way that
you know would be i don't know i don't mean to be too optimistic or like delusional but american you know
like landed free home of the brave let's let's get brave and get some more free back you know
i'm not i'm not trying to fucking make it sound way simpler than it is so apologies if if that
if that is how it's coming across, but like, you know, there's got to be a better way to do that for
sure. And I'm always going to advocate for that. You know, and even like when I talk with the,
I've said this many times before, but whenever I talk with my military guys, like on the show,
those guys, it's like the strangest catch 22 because they train to go over there and see action
and be ready to go. And they'll all tell you, like once they're in it, like it's what they live for.
at the same time they'll also tell you about the losses that they experience out there and in many cases the survivors guilt because a buddy falls on the battlefield and you never get over that it's a horrible cost and so i i'm i'm not a moron i understand that
humanity is flawed and war does exist sometimes and sometimes there is a need for it but like the number of times we say there's a need for it is
significantly larger throughout history than the number times where there actually is a need for it.
It is something that, to quote Simon Dixon, who's going to be coming on the show, you know,
the financial industrial complex loves to profit off a bunch of fucking people dying on battlefields.
And I'm never going to advocate for that is wrong in every way. And it should be avoided at
at all costs. You know, so, I don't know, somehow it gets
weirder and weirder out here joey deef but we we have a nice list of stuff to talk about in the next
episode already yeah definitely let's let's fucking rip that all right well shit onward and upward
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