Julian Dorey Podcast - Julian Dorey UNLOADS on Clancy Backlash, CBS Coverup & 9/11

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Learn more at Bloomberg.com. What's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the Julian Dory Podcast. I am Julian Dory. And I'm Joey Dief. How you done? How you done? Dief, another week in America and another week of them trying to knock the black man down. You see this this morning? I seen it.

Starting point is 00:00:48 Is it unbelievable, bro? We've gone full BLM boomerang here. Yeah, and LGBTQIA. Something like that. We'll be talking about that later, but it was revealed in unintentionally. comedic fashion that the lone holdout juror in the Clancy trial is an African American gentleman who apparently was bullied by the 11 other jurors. So shout out to that guy. We were going to go through all that later today. What I will say before that is I do believe the Clancy case is a prime

Starting point is 00:01:19 example of something that this is why we can't have nice things. It is clearly something that we're forced to talk about because so many fucking people are talking about it. But it is being sent into the ethersphere across the spectrum to be able to get us all just focus on this one thing while God knows what happens behind the scenes. We've already pointed out some of those things that are clearly happening behind the scenes, but you've got to stay awake on these kinds of things, and that is why we are not going to lead off the show with this today. We will get to that later in the show and go bar by bore on a lot of different evidence and things that came out this week because it has been, frankly, a very vocal minority that has been represented

Starting point is 00:01:58 some very cringe opinions on this case. The majority of people are looking at this with common sense. They're just getting a little less attention because you can't even believe some of the takes you do here that do exist. So we will talk about that. I know there's at least a handful out of you out there that I do think have a very cold take on that case. Most of the people hitting me up this were saying thank you for speaking up on this because I really felt like I was speaking common sense, but we're going to make sure we leave some no tease uncross or eyes undotted and just go through the rest of it. But to lead off, it is, as we are recording this, Joey Dief at 3.30 on a Friday afternoon, it is 25 years since 9-11. And 9-11 is one of these things,

Starting point is 00:02:47 obviously, that is always in the background of everything we talk about, because my Modern history was completely shaped by that day. There is it before and there is an after. It is its own generational Pearl Harbor, if you will, with reverberating effects. And so we were able to drop a really special podcast earlier today with David Ferruzio and Matt Bochi. David's been on the show before. Great guy, a good friend of mine hosts an amazing podcast called Dead Talks, which is really

Starting point is 00:03:18 like the number one understanding death and dealing with grief podcasts in the world. He finds a way also to make it light and funny while also serious. So I think he does a great job with that. Matt, I had never spoken with before, but the two of them, David and Matt, both lost their fathers in the towers that day. And it really drives it home with the circle of life when you're sitting here 25 years later. And two guys who were young at the time, 12 and 9 respectively, are now looking upon their lives that have been unfortunately lived for the majority of it without their fathers. and it just reminds you what the cost of that day was. And obviously where we record here in Hoboken,

Starting point is 00:04:00 we are right on the Hudson River directly across from where those towers once stood and where Freedom Tower now stands. And every day in some way, there's always some sort of reminder to me because it still blows my mind that there were two towers standing there that no longer are. Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify,

Starting point is 00:04:20 please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge huge help. Thank you. That said, 25 years later, we still don't have answers on this. People know it was a terrorist attack. They know that, you know, I mean, people even argue about some things that I would not argue with. We have plenty of evidence that there were planes that actually did go into those buildings and everything. But the reverberating effects of what happened afterwards lead to suspicion everywhere,

Starting point is 00:04:50 the cover up that has occurred from our own government, not even just upon us. us, all the people, but upon the families of all the victims is absurd. You know, we're finally getting a hearing in a month or two with relation to the case against Saudi Arabia. Don't hold your breath on that. They keep delaying that over and over again over the past 25 years to even get to that point. And multiple governments, including our own around the world, whether it's the Saudis, the Israelis, us, maybe some others I'm missing seem to have something to do with at least four knowledge of these attacks and no has ever paid the price for that, to say nothing of the fact that our own 9-11 commission report

Starting point is 00:05:30 that was, pun intended, commissioned by our government was one of the biggest shams ever done. Look, no farther than the fact that the first guy that they initially wanted to head that commission, I believe was Henry Kissinger. You can check that deep. It's been a while. But like, I mean, just file that under. You can't make this shit up. So it does make me sad that something like that is still in a window of time, the way Brett Weinstein would say it, it's in a window of time to where you're not allowed to talk about some things or how dare you ask a question about what this was. And I think what that unfortunately does is it removes the gravity of what the day itself was and all the other things we did see from that that were horrific, but also on the other

Starting point is 00:06:19 side of that heroic. And I'm going to talk about that in a minute, what I mean. by that but I am referring to some of the people that day who did amazing things trying to trying to and in many cases successfully saving some of their fellow human beings but that day as I've said on a lot of podcasts over the years is a is a really it's what it's one of the wildest days in my life for sure maybe like the key seminal moment for me because I was eight years old I was in the beginning of third grade and it is the first day that I can remember every single part of the day, shot for shot, bar, for bar, word for work. Right? Like, I can remember some things when I was seven, six, five, four. I don't think I can

Starting point is 00:07:07 really remember anything before that. But always in like little bits and pieces, you know, this image, that scene, this thing that happened. But as far as like the full day from driving to school that day to coming home at night and seeing the news and remembering the people around me like my parents and the horrified looks on their faces and taking into account even if I couldn't fully understand it. I was able, I was old enough to be able to understand the gravity of like, this is really fucking bad and historically in many ways unprecedented. You know, it's, it is etched in my memory forever. And I did find like every year I feel the gravity of that, but something about it being 25 years, which is now officially for sure one full generation. One full generation.

Starting point is 00:07:55 generational turn. The longest you usually think of a generation would be about 25 years. The fourth turning says 21 and a half to 25. So we have now reached one full generational turn to the point that, you know, we have someone on our team who wasn't even born the day that 9-11 happened. I mean, that's that's kind of crazy to me because it is now starting to etch its way deeper and deeper into history. And, you know, that morning when the towers had been. hit both of them had been hit one at eight forty six and then later the south tower was hit at nine o three so it was only about 17 minutes between them somewhere in the area of like nine forty five my teacher gathered our class together i went to a little friend school so i didn't have like a big class it was probably like 20 kids in the class and you know shout out to teacher karen it's what they called them at friends schools you had to say like teacher and then their name she did such a good job of remembering that she was talking to a bunch of like seven and eight year olds and not you know 17 18 year olds and getting across that something very serious had happened without

Starting point is 00:09:09 showing it on any TV or anything like that that is not where I saw the images they didn't like roll in the TVs they used to have in in classes and show us but she described detail by detail the broad strokes of what we knew at that point, which was that America clearly had been attacked and we didn't know much beyond that. But she was able to get the gravity across and do it in a really non, I don't know, PTSD-laden way for like a young mind. Like I didn't walk out of there. I walked out there understanding that something horrible had happened, but I didn't walk out of there or shook out of my mind like someone just showed me a snuff film or something. You know what I mean? Like there's a way to deliver that news.

Starting point is 00:09:51 And I just remember how gentle she was with that. And I did stay in school the rest of the day, but... Don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know, the same way you can skip an ad? I get it. I'm Siaiaa and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned. And today, I'm still figuring it out.

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Starting point is 00:10:41 one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when WestJet welcomes you on board. Here's to WestJetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at WestJet.com. slash 30 years. Going to school in South Jersey, it's not right next to New York, but there's plenty of people who actually did commute to New York more than you would think. And we did lose a couple people from my town. One was from the edge of my town, so he was technically in the other town, but like,

Starting point is 00:11:10 was very well known in my town. Nick Brandon Marte and, oh my God, that's horrible. Why is the second guy's name escaping me? Can you type in Mantua, New Jersey, 9-11? I think his last name starts with an R. I want to make sure I get that right. But, you know, two guys did unfortunately die. And throughout that day, I remember being in the hallways,

Starting point is 00:11:35 and there were teachers who had family members, including parents who lived right there in southern Manhattan, and they were in tears on the phone, checking in with their family. None of them did lose their family as it would turn out. But it was very scary because people thought the world was ending. Like people in New York especially, I should say, really thought the world was ending. When those buildings came down, you talked to many of the people that were there.

Starting point is 00:12:01 It was, they thought the city blew up. You know, you just had, you just had smoke at a level, but I don't even know if you want to call it smoke. You had debris at a level spreading that, you know, I don't even know what to compare it to. Because these buildings were so large. They were 110 stories apiece. and obviously people got a lot of questions about how that came down and that's part of the unanswered part here and and and i think i think that's very reasonable but at the time people were just looking to survive there and you hear so many stories of people who literally just walked

Starting point is 00:12:38 north like they walked north on the seven mile island and walked somewhere into westchester county until they couldn't walk anymore regardless whether they live there or not you hear the stories like the very famous documentary on vice that I've cited so many times before about the captains of the ferry boats, including the ones here, actually, basically the ones here in Hoboken especially, which suddenly went into gear and were just, just like they do today, when they take people in every day to transport them in there for work, they started going into high gear, getting to the edge of Manhattan

Starting point is 00:13:14 and pulling people out and getting them back over to the New Jersey side. You know, just kind of amazing stuff like that. but I guess I'm kind of going into the heroes part right here. There were so many amazing people that day who just, I don't even know if they had time to take a deep breath. Probably didn't, you know, and just went into mode. And there's the stories we know and the many stories that we don't. When I was talking with David and Matt,

Starting point is 00:13:43 I was thinking about all those floors that their fathers were on. You know, the floors above the impact zone in this case, in the North Tower where no one survived. Not one person got out of there as it would turn out. And so we really don't know much that happened on those floors at the time. There's a few phone calls that got out that described a couple things. Like someone said, they were trying to get to the roof, things like that, little bits and pieces. But we don't know what people were saying and how they were trying to help each other. And one of the things I looked at just from like a, you know, from what we could see is you remember all the people who were.

Starting point is 00:14:21 in the windows, you know, some of whom waving a towel, trying to signal any kind of help that could have gotten there, laying out in the windows, trying to stay away from the smoke. It's also probably, I forget what they estimated the temperatures were in there, but they were very high. I mean, it was like unsurvivable. And, you know, a not small but very significant heroic thing is that you probably have to consider there were a bunch of people behind them who offered the spots on the windows and said, no, you guys go lay there so that you have a shot to survive. And then they just, you know, sat there and died. And that's like this amazing thing about humanity in times like that

Starting point is 00:15:03 where there's people who will lay down their life, no questions asked for other people. And then you have the stories that we do fully know. You know, the Wells Crowler one is a very famous one. The ESPN's done an amazing job for years telling. Wells was a great lacrosse player. in college whose dad had always given him a red bandana. And so when the towers got hit, he went into mode. He took the red bandana out of his pocket.

Starting point is 00:15:30 And he started going through the stairwells and rescuing people. And I think he rescued something like 18 people who all verified that the man in the red bandana came and got them and got them out of the building. You know, there's some famous pictures from the stairwell where you see firemen in what I would describe as Michael Jordan game mode, just like, let's see. fucking go, staring solemnly but seriously up at the impossible battle in front of them. And when you look at many of these pictures, chances are one out of two, I'm totally guesstimating right here, but plenty of these cases have been reported.

Starting point is 00:16:05 They never made it out. You know, they went up and they were still up there when the towers came down. There's a famous image of one of the fire companies taken. It's taken from like a building or some sort of bridge where it's changed. shows a fire truck driving towards the Manhattan skyline. And the towers are in the distance burning. And it's driving there. It probably has, I don't know, a mile or two to go to get there. And, you know, you can see that, I forget the... This one, the Brooklyn Bridge. That one. I don't know if it's that one. Actually, it might be.

Starting point is 00:16:42 But if this is the one, I hope I'm thinking of the right one. But you can see this fire company on the Brooklyn Bridge, which... What's that? About a mile. mail-ish from the towers? Yeah, as soon as you get off it, you're down there. Right. So they're coming on to it right there. So maybe they're a mile and a half at that point. And they were able to determine if this is the correct picture I'm thinking of,

Starting point is 00:17:02 and I believe it is. They were able to determine that this was a certain numbered fire company where I believe no one got out. All those guys, both buildings are already on fire. So this is sometime around, it has to be after 903 a.m. Tower 2 came down at 9.50. Tower 1 came down at I believe 1028. And so within the next hour, all the guys there who were driving right into the fire were gone.

Starting point is 00:17:31 And it's horrible for the families and a really dark kind of picture to look at, but it also highlights that this is what they trained to do. And they didn't ask any questions. They went in there and they did it. and another great story is another one I've told a lot of times over the years John O'Neill John O'Neill was the head of the New York FBI's counterterrorism desk and he was a controversial guy because he was one of those dudes that people either loved them or they hated him and even when you talk to guys of the FBI they'll all tell you that they'll be like oh this guy loved him that guy hated him etc etc and he later was the subject of a book called the looming tower

Starting point is 00:18:17 which also became a mini-series in 2017 with Jeff Daniels, where, you know, it charted his story in the build-up to 9-11 because John O'Neill was pounding the table for many years that these towers were going to be attacked. And he, you know, knew bin Laden was a problem. Regardless of all the other questions we have around the attack and people involved, like just looking at bin Laden on his own as well and some of the things he wanted to do, he knew that he was a big problem.

Starting point is 00:18:47 And moral of story is a lot of people didn't listen. And the CIA in particularly couldn't stand John O'Neill. This is, he was really the crux of the whole post-9-11 report that we do know is true, which is that CIA and FBI had like Chinese walls from each other, particularly CIA towards FBI when they should have been working together and sharing intelligence. CIA would keep intelligence away. And a lot of that had to do with, you know, the guy Michael Shore, among, other people at CIA's Alex station bin Laden desk did not like John O'Neill and so they wanted him to fuck off and so they told the FBI to fuck off and long story short John O'Neill shortly before 9-11 there's a whole controversial thing where you know he left behind some classified documents somewhere by accident FBI got wind of it they investigated it and they found it as a good excuse to be able to say John you've been here whatever it was 25 years, time to retire. So he was kind of forced into retirement from the FBI in August 2001.

Starting point is 00:19:54 And three weeks before 9-11, he took a job as the head of security for the World Trade Center, which is filed under the shit you can't possibly make up file for sure. And on 9-11, the towers were hit, and he went into mode, and he was as the head of security of those buildings, saving people in the very buildings that he was warning were. going to be targeted and died when they came down. So you see things like that and that's a really dystopian kind of end right there, but the guy was able to be at the scene and go into mode and do his best and succeed by the way in limiting whatever damage he could from a lives lost perspective. So I could go on and on and on with stories of people and really there's been some great

Starting point is 00:20:47 documentaries made, but more documentaries should be made. If we're going to make a lot of documentaries to question the event, which I'm all four, should also make a lot of stories to talk about the people who had nothing to do with what happened that day and just went into mode to help other people. So there was a silver lining to come out of that day in that way. Obviously, it was one of the worst days ever, to be very clear. But the other silver lining was that another thing we've talked about is done. September 12th, 2001 was the most united the country in my lifetime that I can remember has ever fucking been. And a thing that often gets forgotten is, you know, eight, nine, ten months before was, had been what was at the time the most contentious

Starting point is 00:21:30 presidential election in maybe ever, you know, went to court as to who won between Bush and Gore. And yet on September 12th, that was old news. No one even remembered that. People came together around a common cause and then unfortunately like what seems to always happen is corrupt parts of the government saw an opportunity to not let a good crisis go to waste and proceeded to use that day as a stepping stone to make every possible wrong foreign policy and constitutional decision known to man on behalf of the American people and that's obviously a whole nother thing and a topic that continues to have effects today that we have to deal with. So that part sucks.

Starting point is 00:22:16 But when we're sitting here 25 years later without answers and without justice from allies, like the Saudis, the Israelis, from our own, like, people in the U.S. government who either blatantly failed, I hope blatantly failed and didn't blatantly know, you know, when you see nothing to come out of that, very little to come out of that at this point and things shoved under the rug. It is, it's awful. It's inexcusable. It's awful. And for the families themselves, including the woman today who gave a great statement at the 9-11 Memorial where she savaged the Saudis and also looked right at J.D. Vance and said, take this back to Trump.

Starting point is 00:23:09 and savage the current government and all the governments that have come since 2001 over this. Like, that shouldn't be the case. A widow 25 years later should not have to stand there and do that. But I forget what her name was. Sorry, but shout out to that widow because she did a great job with that. And in another thing of like, file this under shit you can't possibly make up, you know, we've even seen in 2026 all these years later emails from Jeffrey Epstein. where he's directly involved in the case itself. A really dark one involving Gieland Maxwell talking to Ed Epstein, the reporter, no relation about the quote-unquote secret shadow commission

Starting point is 00:23:53 being formed for 9-11, which I'll even say this. You really, really hope it's a sick, dark joke made by someone who is obviously a sick, dark rapist and, you know, traffickers, spy person, all these horrible things that Gulen Maxwell was. but it's that's probably wishful thinking there's something there that's quite odd and worth another look if you will there's also as we saw a tremendous number of files missing

Starting point is 00:24:22 from 1991 to 2001 from the upstein files that are a part of those extra roughly three million files that have still not been released despite the fact that they are legally required to release them that's that's kind of interesting right joey d'if i'd say so i'd say that's pretty interesting and, you know, with a little icing on the cake, if you will, there's emails in 2017. It's 2016 or 2017. Deve can check me on that. Where Jeffrey Epstein is directly coordinating with people involved in the litigation with the Saudi government as it pertains to the 9-11 victims, where he is introducing, Jeffrey Epstein, not a lawyer, by the way, introducing legal ideas to be able to delay the hearings once again.

Starting point is 00:25:07 So to put that back in English, he is working against the 9-11 victims' families. I remind you, this is a guy who not only spied via trafficking rings and arms deals and all kinds of other shit, but this is also a guy who has a picture, had a picture in his Manhattan townhouse where he resides right next to Howard Lutnik, current Commerce Secretary of the United States. It's neither here nor there. but he had a picture in that townhouse of George Bush behaving like an infant on the floor of the Oval Office with two paper airplanes and two Jenga towers on the floor. So I don't know, pure spec, but that's kind of interesting.

Starting point is 00:25:48 So I think today I feel a lot of things. I feel a little bit of circle of life for my own life and seeing how everything's developed since then. I feel reverence for the people who passed away that day and who still don't. have justice and respect for the solemnness of that day. And I feel some anger and disgust at the fact that we're not getting justice. And cynically, I don't know that we ever will. Help them wrong, but don't know that we ever will. Yeah. Interesting enough, when you were speaking on that, I was looking at this picture. So you were right, it was that. It was that ladder company.

Starting point is 00:26:32 turns out this is the latter company that Pete Davidson's dad passed on. No shit. So the original photographer replied to this Reddit post. And what's the number up there, Dee? The ladder company? It was Ladder Company 118 out of Brooklyn Heights. Out of Brooklyn Heights. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:49 Pretty crazy. All of them. All of their firefighters died in the collapse and they were found together in the stairwell like a team. That's crazy, yeah. That's crazy. Pete Davidson's grandma has the photo hanging. in her living room is seen in the documentaries.

Starting point is 00:27:05 It's wild. Yeah, to this day, of the 2,900, I want to get this number right, because I don't want to include the hijackers in this. So it's, I guess it would be 2958, non-hyjackers who died that day, because I think it's 2977 total. So it's 2977 who died, then I died. And then if you include the 19 hijackers, then it's, 2996. Okay. So we're going to say 2977 out of the 2977 around 1,650 have been medically identified.

Starting point is 00:27:44 There are 1,600 people who to this day have never been medically identified, which is just, unfortunately, it's not surprising when you see the destructive, complete destructive nature of what happened there. But that is, that is really sad to say the least. So I did want to make sure, like, you know, a part of, my podcast that I think is interesting is I've been doing this six and a half years and as I'm doing things the world keeps moving and things happen around you and there's moments in time that you capture and it kind of turns like I won't even speak for you guys at all I'm just speaking from my perspective here like looking at my life the podcast I get to do turns into a strange documentary of like my life and what was going on at a time and then I can kind of remember what I was

Starting point is 00:28:34 thinking and seeing so this morning i was like i think it'll be pretty interesting if i lived to 50 or 60 or 70 or whatever to look back and you know see the kind of thing that i was thinking and reflecting on and wondering at 25 years out from 9-11 and see where we're at that point as a world to say nothing in 9-11 altogether so no no it's stored and save forever But as always, it's fuck Leon Black today, yesterday, and every day. And, you know, we did go after our friend Leon last week, strictly with pure evidence, by the way, Your Honor, if you're watching in the future. But even more came out this week after his story got shoved under the rug.

Starting point is 00:29:27 No one's talking about it. I see absolutely no one talking about Leon Black suing Congress. and refusing to testify about his very good dear friend so much so you would almost think that they were lovers pure spec there Jeffrey Epstein you know I find that pretty interesting while we're so busy talking about Lindsay Clancy. You find that interesting, Dave? Yeah, it works out nicely. I think it does work on nicely. Something that happened in 2023. Yeah, exactly, exactly. It works out really nicely. But I have a bunch of links there, Defe, just to some

Starting point is 00:30:03 stuff we got to go through, but the one that's greened with Wyden. So, as you well know, Larry Ellison, who we're huge fans of here, Joey Defe. Yes, sir. We just love our overlord is buying up all of our media and, you know,

Starting point is 00:30:19 using all of his tech to support an AI surveillance state, all while generously donating so much of his money to the IDF, who Joey Defe, apparently, they're a part of our military too. That's what they're telling me. That's what they're saying.

Starting point is 00:30:33 That's a patriotic thing of you to do, Larry, who was born in the United States, by the way. But on August 4th... Don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know, the same way you can skip an ad? I get it. I'm Siaia and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned. And today, I'm still figuring it out.

Starting point is 00:30:57 Somehow things usually get worse. before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll. So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride. Stream a new episode of North of North Tuesdays on CBC Gem. And this is from Anonymous on Twitter, which actually, I should have checked this, Steve. I want to make sure, because this is a real report and everything here.

Starting point is 00:31:18 But are those, is that the actual same anonymous, or is this like a cop, I think this is a copycat account, right? I just want to be clear on that, so I'm not giving false attribution. Yeah, I don't know. A spooky connection. Yeah, I don't know if they're the actual anonymous. Okay. Okay, but the report, like it's a retweet of an actual report with everything.

Starting point is 00:31:39 Right. So that part, obviously, we went through, and that's what's most important here. I just want to make sure I'm given tweet attribution correctly. But the account is at up death eaters, and they call themselves anonymous like the hacking group does. It says on August 4th, U.S. Senator Wyden released a congressional report that the Ellison family takeover of CBS News aided in suppressing a 60 minutes investigative broadcast regarding major banks, ignoring compliance red flags for Leon Black's payments to Jeffrey Epstein. It is specifically out of all the many payments and strange red flags that were popping up everywhere. This report specifically centered on the ones involving Leon Black.

Starting point is 00:32:22 Leon Black, the founder of Apollo Global, which, you know, KKR, Apollo Global, easily, two of the most respected or well-known, I should respect is the wrong word, well-known private equity companies in the country that were at the forefront of creating that whole industry. But let's pull up the, did I put the article there as well? I think I forgot to, I had that link on that. Maybe Defe can find that while I'm talking about this. That's my bed. I had the link for the article because that was just a tweet with the initial screenshot. But Barry Weiss, who we've talked about a lot, was put in charge at cbs by larry ellison when he took over and thieves got it up here so i'll get in a second when he took over cbs as a result of one of his many mergers and acquisitions where

Starting point is 00:33:14 he's buying up media including tictock and she is by her own admission in in the past you know her main political thing is israel that's what she cares about that is what she will tailor everything she ever does to she will ride or die with that despite the fact that she is also an American. So that's kind of interesting. And so since she has gotten to CBS, there have been many reports, so many that it is impossible to ignore and say they're all false. In fact, most of them are quite literally verifiably true. There have been many reports of her seeming to, I don't know, is cover up a strong word here? Yes, cover up, suppress, censor. So it's appropriate. Yeah, shackle. Let's say censor.

Starting point is 00:33:59 Censor is pretty good. Censor feels very media. That's a good addition there, Jardief. So she has censored a lot of reports that her reporters have gone out and done. And these stories almost always happen to be censored around the subject matters of Israel and Epstein. Do with that what you will. So now Ron Whiting comes out with this report and Thief has it up now. So Ellison Takeover of CBS, Unquestionably Aided White House Epstein coverup. Now, to be clear, this is a Democratic senator. Their administration is Republican. So, of course, he is coming at them.

Starting point is 00:34:35 But I think Ron has some pretty good evidence here. So Senator Ron Wyden on Tuesday charged that the takeover of CBS by David Ellison, the son of right-wing billionaire billionaire Larry Ellison, held to President Donald Trump's White House cover-up information about the late billionaire sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Wyden claims that CBS came on the same day his office released, claims, Wyden's claims about CBS came on the same day. his office released a report alleging the top Wall Street banks looked the other way and allowed Epstein to have ready access to the mountains of cash he used to lure harbor and transport his victims.

Starting point is 00:35:06 By the way, as far back as even 2022, and I think before that, but in my head I can remember 2022, the Wall Street Journal was reporting on all this as it pertains to, oh, I don't know, JP Morgan and high-place people there and money sloshing through there that was directly attributable to Epstein himself. There's been a lot of questions. Henry Abbott's raised it with Deutsche Bank and all kinds of issues there. So like, this is a pervasive problem across various institutions that were involved with very dark money, if you will. And his social media post, Wyden revealed that he was interviewed several months ago by former 60 Minutes core respondents, Sharon Alfonzi. A lot of those, a lot of former ones. Again, Barry Weiss is so backwards.

Starting point is 00:35:49 She's got me defending a lot of mainstream media people. That is not something if you watch this show, I do much of. But, like, that's the position she is putting you, win by censoring all these stories, and I'm always going to call it balls and strikes like I see it, and that is what it is. So he was interviewed by Sharon Alfonzi, where he presented evidence his office that gathered about Big Bank's role in facilitating Epstein's illicit activities. The interview never aired, Wyden said, because CBS subsequently pulled the segment and fired the reporter.

Starting point is 00:36:16 Nice. And then he added that the MAGA buyout of media has unquestionably aided the Trump administration's cover up here. I do remind you the day after Donald Trump was inaugurated for term two. I know Joey Deef was really tuned into this, but there was a press conference. Remember that? I think we had Larry Ellison, Sam Altman, just a bunch of big... Zuck, yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:37 I don't... Was Zuck at that one? He might have been. But he was at the inauguration. He was at the inauguration. But the day after there was a press conference, Zuck might have been there. I don't want to give him... I can't remember for sure. Yeah, I can say for sure either.

Starting point is 00:36:51 The ones I can remember that we're there were Altman and Ellison talking about how it's going to be really exciting. It's going to be great. we're going to build all this AI. We're going into the next era. President Trump is here. He works for you, the people. And yeah, we're just going to, we're going to spy on you and make your life hell and turn this into 1984. And, you know, hopefully you just Darwin yourself out eventually. And we can all live on our exoplanets in the future with our dystopian reality because we're subhuman at this point. I don't know. Maybe that's what they were thinking. I don't know. Pure spec there.

Starting point is 00:37:27 You see stuff like this, it's all kind of lining up, right? You see the flock cameras suddenly go, whoop, through the roof, all over the place. We can see, we played that chart already on the show. We don't got to do it again. But, you know, there is a real line in the sand around January 20th, 2025. Oh, yeah. Where it just kind of does that hockey stick. You know, in our business, Joey Deef, that's something we've never seen.

Starting point is 00:37:52 We've seen steady, slow growth over the years. And we always talk about when are we going to get that hockey stick? moment where it's a good thing. You know, that means suddenly you kind of explode, right? And you look at huge shows, look all the way at the trailblazers like Joe Rogan, everyone kind of has their hockey stick moment. It's a good thing in our business. It's not a good thing when you've seen a bunch of cameras spy on you. It's the beginning of innovation. Oh, you think it's innovation, Joey Deed. That's how they put it. Is that male poetry? No. It's not. No. It's just... Male poetry is knocking down as many of them cameras as you can. Now, is that,

Starting point is 00:38:27 Joey Deve talking? No, no, no, it's not me talking. Please, that's not me talking. That's Darnell Thomas talking? That's Darnell Thomas talking. That's Darnell Thomas talking. I like Darnal Thomas more than Joey Deef. I'm not going to like. I like Joey Deve a lot. Like, great guy. Darnal Thomas is, that's one base motherfucker, bro. Yeah, he gets it. He does get it. He would have been that lone juror. I'll tell you that. He definitely would have been that long juror. You know, you take out a few exercise bands. That's over. He knows. He's just like texting like, yeah, whatever. Put the band on my water bottle, bro. We're going to get to that.

Starting point is 00:39:01 We're going to get to that for sure. But, yeah, but so that wasn't me saying anything about the cameras, just so we're clear. Right. For counsel. Joey Deaf would never do that. Joey Deef would never do that. It's not. It's not what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:39:12 Those cameras, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yes, you do. Oh, you're winking. Let the record reflect, Your Honor. He winked at the camera. Strike that from the record, please, Your Honor.

Starting point is 00:39:23 Are we supposed to do this in a Boston accent to stay in a count? character here? Yeah, a few accents, actually, but right, keep it kosher. Right, that's right. Anyway, so yeah, Leon Black continues to get protection all the way from the top of the media now. And again, every time Barry Weiss does a Barry Weiss, we're going to report it here just because she's so much fun. She seems awesome at dinner parties. I don't know about you, but like, I can't think of a better person, like if I'm at one of those fucking cocktail hours and I go to the bar to try to get away from some of the cringe people there.

Starting point is 00:39:58 I hope it's Barry Weiss sitting there with maybe even like an espresso martini, get the party started, and I can spend the next two to three hours hiding with her and having a great fucking time. Yeah. She's just like farting at the bar. That's right. Yeah, just getting the party going. That's right. She's really into guys too, so I might have to be careful, you know?

Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah. No, she's not. Yeah, she's not. Yeah, go on. Doesn't play for our team. I always do a cannonball. That's what I want to see. do a lot of displaced water right there you do a physics problem yeah do a cannonball barry that's

Starting point is 00:40:30 right do a cannonball for the boys anyway there is a top link right there i i do want to hit this because amanda ugaro sent this to me amanda ungarro the ex of palazan poli who i talked to for an hour last month and then we talked about it on an episode at the beginning of august but you know again i've said this about amanda before not a woman i want to be on her bad side like that you You know, Palo, big mistake getting on her bad side because she don't give up. So this was actually a very under the radar filing that happened. That inner city press. And I don't remember this guy's name.

Starting point is 00:41:09 I have seen him for years though. This guy, inner city press. Is it Matthew Russell Lee? That's him? Yeah. Okay. Shout out to this guy. Whenever there is any kind of case.

Starting point is 00:41:20 And I mean if someone took a shit on Fifth Avenue in the wrong place. and it is being brought up in the Southern District in New York. This guy's in the courtroom. And he's always on it. In fact, I looked once before. Every time there's like even some case with like a little bit of media attention, he will instantly publish, like self-publish, you know, an 80, 100-page book about it. I don't know how many he has, but he has like a lot.

Starting point is 00:41:46 So he's just like on it with what's happening in court and obviously has some great sources in the clerk's office there. You know, pure spec. But anyway, he was able to find that a UN rape case was filed civilly. So a civil case alleging rape filed by Victoria Drake against Palos and Polly. I want to highlight this is civil, not criminal, and its allegations not confirm. Just covering that for the back end. But it was filed with United Nations ambassadors cited in it. So he put a screenshot to the filing and then D. if you pulled it up already, but that article just so I get it.

Starting point is 00:42:21 So a woman named Victoria Drake on September 3rd filed a lawsuit against Powell Zampoli in the U.S. District Court for the Sunday District of New York where inner city press found it. He found it, Joey Defe. Let's go, dude. Now, how do you think he found? Do you think, like, you think maybe someone, like, just let a copy of it blow in the wind while they were taking a smoke break and just turned around like nothing happened? And then he came out of the shadows and just like picked it up, took a picture and reported it. And like, that's how they do it. No. No. This guy's Batman. He's Batman. Yeah, Matthew Russell Lee. he disarmed a couple of people, subdued them. Oh, he disarmed them?

Starting point is 00:42:55 I think he, like, broke into the office, hit a couple of file cabinets. Wait, so they were guarding this civil case with people armed with weapons? Yeah, they guard, they guard the office with the filing cabinets in it. And he had to, like, go and subdue them, like Batman. Now are we talking, like, handguns in the holster? We talking, like, full-blown, like, oozy's in the office. There's probably one with an AR, one with just a handgun and a donut, but he's going at both of them full force. He's like, I'm going to get this file.

Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah, you know, I'm going to get this file. Yeah. like how Batman doesn't kill anybody, but he'll, like, break their clavicle. Yeah, like paralyze them. That's what he's doing. He's paralyzing all the clerks. And then he's just like going, he's flipping through the files and he's like, and you're going to love me. Yeah, that's right. That's what he's doing.

Starting point is 00:43:36 So before alleging rape, the complaint recounts that Zam Poli, quote, invited plaintiff referring to Victoria Drake, her friend and two junior UN ambassadors to his townhome, which is where at different points for long periods, Amanda, lived with him and then also was getting away from him too. So maybe he was getting lonely at this point and decided to go commit crimes. I don't know. Pure spec. Anyway, but address is omitted by inner city press. Nice of him to do that. But it is publicly available. People can Google that. I'm not going to say that. That's classy. A sprawling multi-floor residence that housed multiple tenants and contained a situation room, ambassador room at least one elevator and featured a pool and

Starting point is 00:44:16 adjacent bedroom. So Joey Dief, I do have to say this. If I were a major modeling executive and I were designing like my dream home in Manhattan where every square foot cost fucking $40 million. Yeah. There is no doubt in my mind that before I looked at the master bedroom, before I looked at like the master bathroom, the kitchen, what do they call the place where you walk in? The foyer. The foyer. Before I look at any of that, I'm going up to whatever fucking construction guys running this. Yeah. And first time, you know, I got to check in and be like, yo, Mario with the Columbo's, he's cool. He's good. Yeah, he's going to be a quick union job. I'm winning out of there.

Starting point is 00:44:52 Yeah. So once we clear it with Mario and all that, now I go to a construction guy. Hopefully his legs aren't broken at this point from fight with Mario, but neither here nor there. And he's got like that full page in front of him, kind of like Danny Jones when he drew out the studio. Yeah, he's got the blueprint. He's got the blueprint.

Starting point is 00:45:07 Thanks for the help. Of course. So he's got the blueprint in front of them. And I got, no, no, stop at all those rooms. The most important room, the first place that we are designing here is the situation room. Because as a modeling executive, these are matters in national. security and I need a situation room. Yeah, if you got to remember, Palo Zam Poli is a

Starting point is 00:45:27 g-baw-ball whi. And so he probably was like, sorry, I'll mark that. I forget that I'm one so I can say it. But, you know, he probably was like on that Jersey Shore shit and he's like, we got a situation. And he was like, yo, we gotta make a situation room. And I think, it checks out. The problem is he would never say it like that.

Starting point is 00:45:47 Well, yeah, it's hard to say anything with balls or not. in your mouth, Julie. Situation on, you know what they mean. He's got pretty thick accent. Yeah, and he's balls in his mouth, so it's... That's right. Anyway, so after the incident, the complaint described the plane of trying to leave the town home but says she, quote, ended up on the floor that she did not recognize.

Starting point is 00:46:08 There, she saw defendant Zampoli's son playing video games and realized she was back in defendant Sanpoli's town home. The complaint cites the gender-motivated Violence Protection Act, Administrative Code of the City of New York, York Section 8-904 and was filed at, oh, he even has the time. This guy's good. At 9 p.m. on September 3rd, 2026, the same day that Leon Black sued Congress. Very interesting. That's good.

Starting point is 00:46:34 By a law firm at 45 Broadway and lower Manhattan. So this is a case. It's been, I believe this is the one we discussed before, but now it's officially been filed civilly. And maybe, I don't know. I don't have any sources here other than Amanda finding out that it got filed. I don't know any more context. Don't know more than you guys out there.

Starting point is 00:46:53 But maybe something like this actually, you know, gets to a point where maybe they're going to settle and then a little investigator starts sniffing around. I mean, in a good way. Not like the New York sniff, sniff, sniff. Right? Yeah. I was just thinking like when she sees his son playing video games,

Starting point is 00:47:09 he's just like beating up hookers on Grand Theft Auto. She's like father-like son. I'm kidding. It's a joke. Don't sue me. It's a joke. Pure respect. He just.

Starting point is 00:47:20 here's like a bunch of wrangling in the house and pots and pans flying around and then he's just like on Grand Theft Auto just with a bat. Oh, by the way, this just reminded me before I forget. People asking for the PureSpeck merch. We have it ready to go. Joey Deave's been all over it. Yeah, no, I have. But we're having a little problem with Snap Inc. Like Snapchat. Yeah. Who is threatening litigation on my trademark. pure spec. Look forward to seeing them in court. Me versus a fucking, I don't know, 46 trillion dollar fucking company.

Starting point is 00:48:02 Yeah. What could go wrong, right? It's such bullshit though. Like they're claiming it for like their spec lenses or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have pure spec, meaning speculation. It has absolutely nothing to do with that. It's not to be confused with that.

Starting point is 00:48:16 The context is all there. I feel like I got a good case here. I'm talking to my trademark. attorney who fucking bills me $2,000 a text. He's really good, though, very worth it. Yeah. And maybe, you know. And stuff like that, it's like, first of all, you know, no one's, I mean, everyone is

Starting point is 00:48:32 going to get the metal glasses. And, like, you know, I don't hear anyone rushing to get those. And then it'll be done. In two years, they won't make them anymore. That's right. You know? I don't, I don't know why they're causing an issue, but. They should give us a filter for the show.

Starting point is 00:48:47 That's right. That's right. Give us a filter. Give us a snap filter. And then maybe we'll talk about cutting you in. Maybe. I don't know. Probably not.

Starting point is 00:48:54 But like, I'll at least say that. You throw us a bone. Maybe you get a little one. Yeah. Anyway, there is a bunch of stuff here, Dief. I think some of it we're going to punt to next week because it's fine. It's not like pressing to do. But one that I have to hit before we move on here.

Starting point is 00:49:13 I just, I can't miss my mark on this one is our friend Cash Patel. Ladies and gentlemen, the head of the FBI is a retard. Pun intended here, you'll see where I'm going with that in a minute. I've said it forever. I'm not just talking about his eyes that don't know which direction they want to look at any given moment. I am saying it because he is genuinely, fully died in the wool, retarded. And this is all a meme at this point, a meme of the FBI, which the FBI already was having some low moments here. I mean, we could look at a history and talk about low moments, but then you could look through some things in history and be like, well, maybe there.

Starting point is 00:49:52 There's plenty of people there with good intentions and, you know, some okay things happen. A little entrapment here and there, a little cover up here and there. Don't worry about that, but you could say that some justice occurred. Jim Comey comes in at some point and it seems to all go to shit a lot of people who maybe were, I don't know, decent FBI agents. Steve seemed to leave the FBI after that. And then it was just a fucking mess for a whole litany of reasons in the wake of Jim Comey. And so you'd think to yourself, it can't get worse. It can't get worse.

Starting point is 00:50:27 Donald Trump's going to come in here and clean everything up, right? Joey Deef, that's what he told everyone he's going to do. And he could think of no one to clean that place up better than Ash Patel. Just look at that guy, dude. There's another reason we're laughing there. It's so good. Yeah. Now, he's great.

Starting point is 00:50:47 He definitely was the cool guy in high school, for sure. No doubt about it. But Cash Patel is in the news yet again and just keeps adding to the list of reason to get fired and still somehow doesn't get fired. Because apparently when you are the FBI director these days, your priority is PR on Twitter. X, whatever you want to say.

Starting point is 00:51:10 So you pull up this text conversation you found Joey Deef? Yeah. Oh, you know what, actually? Go back for one sec. You were right. I'm wrong. Yeah, we got to read the context first so people have it. So Cash Patel wanted FBI staff, and this is not hyperbole. We're going to read the text in a second. Cash Patel wanted FBI staff to run an influence campaign on X by replying to Epstein tweets with Bureau stats.

Starting point is 00:51:34 He then asked his spokesman to reply to, and this is a real account on Twitter that's pretty funny, at least from what I've seen, the at I find retards post saying it had gotten 277K responses. You know how you know he's tapped in on social media? He's said he's abbreviating the K. Yeah. Like he knows what's up. He's like, yo, it's at 277K, bro. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:02 That's a problem. That gets to 350. We out. Right? His spokesman corrected him and said it had 277K views. I'm sorry. He's not good at social media. He just thinks he is.

Starting point is 00:52:13 and just 400 replies. That's not a lot. He also warned that engaging, quote, would look bad on you, referring to Cash Patel. So here is the text message with Ben Williamson FBI Public Affairs. God bless whoever got this. This is how secure our FBI is. Text messages with the head of public affairs or whatever he is

Starting point is 00:52:37 and the head of our FBI are coming public. So there's a link at the top. This is from February 5th. 2026. Cash Patel is at the blue tech, so he is sending this link, meaning he's actively on his Twitter during the day. Do we have a timestamp on that, Defe? Yeah, 242 p.m.

Starting point is 00:52:54 So, all right, let's game this out, Joe. He's at his desk at the FBI. Just came back from lunch. He's hammered. He's going to have a few cocktails at lunch. And he's like, you know what? This FBI director is going to take these Epstein cats down and finally, once and for all prove that there was no foul play. Because this FBI director is hammered off whiskey. And so he sat at

Starting point is 00:53:23 his desk, popped an upper decky. He's got his in. He threw his zen in. Is he wearing the FBI jacket, the windbreaker? No, he wears a wife beater in the office. But it's like, it's like a wife beater that at the end of the day he takes it off and throws it on the chair and then washes at the end the week so like if it's like Thursday it's got like some stains like a little bit of a little curvy yeah it's scurvy yeah yeah okay so he's not wearing the windbreaker but he's got the windbreaker hanging up behind him right yeah yeah yeah yeah so you could see it like if he's on a zoom doing an interview with fox news yeah yeah yeah yeah and he has like one of those like um it's like something it's similar to a t-shirt but like but it looks like he's wearing his fbi i stuff if that

Starting point is 00:54:12 makes sense. Does it have like a fake little seal on it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I was thinking. Yeah, just in case he has to take a zoom. Right. Doesn't wear pants. You don't need pants on Zoom. There's not. He's not. No, no, no, no. Don't do it. He's not. Cash ain't doing it. He's trying to put in an honest day's work. But, you know, apparently he's got a very good relationship. So, yeah. He got hammered at lunch. He didn't goon. You know, it comes back from lunch. FBI jackets hanging up behind. He's wearing the FBI like fake t-shirt kind of thing in case he's got to go on Zoom. Just in case. He's maybe like four sheets to the wind. We won't say six because he's got good continents right there. Is it continents for that? Constitution. Constitution's

Starting point is 00:54:55 right way. So, you know, just don't look at him at him at the Olympics after he flew on a private FBI plane to get there. Neither here nor there. But he's sitting there and he's like looking through Twitter because that's what you do when you're the head of the FBI. You look at a page called at I find retards and you're like, this is 400 replies too many. He's like, oh, shit. About our Epstein investigation, which is absolutely unimpeachable. It's been done so well. There's been zero cover up of it.

Starting point is 00:55:26 In fact, it's so transparent your head's going to fucking spin. And they are lying about us. And my job as the head of the FBI and the government, I cash Patel. I'm obviously, I'm playing this out. I'm not actually cash Patel. I cash Patel need to fight back against this. And I need to employ, what is this guy called again? The FBI Public Affairs head, Ben Williamson.

Starting point is 00:55:48 I need to deploy him into the comment sections to make sure the people know the hard and good work the FBI is doing. Yep. Does that say 2026 or 2025? 2026. Okay, so it's 2026. So there's no more Bon Gino. No. He's got no more Dan in there.

Starting point is 00:56:04 He's fresh to the job, too. He's feeling good. Yeah. It's good to see that to get a good start at his new job, he's doing. stuff on Twitter. You know, it's good. That's right. He's in the right place. He probably still has, like, Dan on, like, speed dial so you can call him up and, like, that's like his consulieri on the outside. That's true. That's true. And just reaffirm everything he does so that Dan can go tell all 10 of his listeners who still listen to him all about it. Anyway, so he sends this

Starting point is 00:56:29 link to the at I find retards account. And Ben Williamson says, this is in, quote, Epstein didn't kill himself. I think I actually have to mark that thief, unfortunately, because of YouTube. Unquote, bot account. If you're wondering where that's coming from. And then Cash says three texts back to back to back. 277K responses are not bots.

Starting point is 00:56:55 When I asked you in your team, what I asked you in your team to do is find them and post on record, our record year results back at them all, continuously. He wants a continuous barrage. FBI working, locking people up, doing everything, not covering up the Epstein files. He says, have they been doing that? Ben Williamson replies, that's views. It's 400 responses. A real visible tweet gets 5x that. And then Cash Patel responds to, yes, or he responds to Cash's previous tweet and says, yes, we're not responding to, quote,

Starting point is 00:57:36 I find retards, that would look bad on you. Cash Patel then comes in and says, it's not about them. It's about the number of views. It's about sending a message. It's not about the money. Yeah, he's got it, dude. Because people see it and need to be seeing our stats.

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Starting point is 00:58:53 I'll say it till I'm blue in the face every administration needs to be judged on its own merits you want to sit out there and you want to say the Biden administration was completely incompetent I completely agree with you you're right They were. Didn't even know what time of day it was. He definitely didn't know what time of day it was. The Trump administration is the same thing in a whole bunch of different ways.

Starting point is 00:59:18 I mean, there will be an episode, like we've been collecting some links on just some of the, like we've talked about some of the inside business deals that have been going on there throughout the administration. There are so many more. So I think in an episode in a couple weeks, we'll go through some of them, because we've literally been collecting them. And it's just laughable. You have a guy like this running, running, air quotes, the FBI. And like, I'm supposed to take the country fucking seriously. And by the way, you know, shout out to the people at FBI who probably actually care about their job because there are some of those people there.

Starting point is 00:59:53 Like, the fact that they're sitting here and this is their boss, God bless them, man. I mean. Better person than me. When there's six of them, it's hard, dude. It's a small group. Hey, to the six of you out there, keep doing what you. you're doing. We're proud of you. The taxpayer thanks you. Yeah, all right. That's all I got to say about that. There's like four there. We'll do those next week. Yeah, we'll get those. So we'll mark that.

Starting point is 01:00:19 But we do need to talk about the Clancy thing. Like I said, there's a reason I wasn't doing this out front. It is something that continues to be in the news and is unfortunately a forced cultural phenomenon that, you know, some of the opinions certainly have to be addressed. So I have a lot of links there, Dief, of like, just some different things that happened this week that kind of are exactly what I thought they were going to be that proved the point. But I do want to say, as I said at the outset, a lot of people reached out this week, some through public comments, of course, and then a lot through DMs, you know, I'm sure like they were doing a lot of people on social media who I think were having good takes on this saying, you know, thanks for at least

Starting point is 01:01:03 stating the obvious here. And then there was a small sliver of people who were like, you know, you're totally missing this, whatever. Some were a little more innocent than others, I think, and just severely misguided. Others, I think, were frankly, totally brainwashed. And obviously, those are all private people. I'll keep that out of it. But I did see some of those DMs. I think only, it is worth noting, I think only one of them came from a man.

Starting point is 01:01:27 Any DMs I got like that came from a woman. Do with that what you will. But we are on a pathway right now of suicidal empathy. when you live in a society where you can't put at the forefront a five-year-old, a three-year-old, and an infant as the key victims in a case, you are living in a society that is on a pathway to complete destruction. That is not a hot take at all. That is about as objective as you can get with something that is technically an opinion. I do have to say that because it is my opinion. I don't want to live in a country where, yes, you have to put the burden of proof on the government to prove a case,

Starting point is 01:02:19 but I don't want to live in a country to where before the government even opens their mouth in a case that is very, very clear, in my opinion, you are already assuming that there's no possible way the person across there could have committed the crime. I understand that when you look at Lindsay Clancy, you see like this, you know, petite, seemingly innocent looking, I should say, white woman that, you know, was a mother to three kids and no one ever thought she was a monster before this and yada, yada, yada, yada, or whatever. And, you know, she seems like someone you could empathize with as there's no way she could have ever done this in her right mind. But the fact of the matter is, evil has a way of disguising itself in a really good looking fucking mask sometimes. And you've got to judge things on the merits. And so last week before we knew anything about these jurors who were kind enough to come forward this week and basically confirm all my suspicions, before we knew anything, I already thought we had 11 people who were completely broken in how they were. looked at the situation. I got firm confirmation on that week when they were here to open their

Starting point is 01:03:42 mouse. But so many people have continued to argue online that Patrick Clancy did this, which goes against every piece of evidence imaginable. This is a man who left the house at approximately 5 p.m. did not return until 609. They have him on security camera footage. They have his cell phone They have her tracked in some cases with the phone call that went to her during the time. She very clearly executed her plan. I really did not mean a pun there at all. That's really mean. I didn't mean that. Like she did her plan where she killed her children, not one, not two, but all three with an exercise band.

Starting point is 01:04:29 And for some reason people want to say that to say that the whole thing was psychosis. You can hold two thoughts at the same time, people. You can say, and you should, and I said this last week, but let me just be crystal clear on this. You can say that, like, we need to have a better medical system. We need to have a better system for being able to help young mothers after they have a child. We need to remove this stigma around postpartum depression. We need to take a look at the way that doctors fucking administer drugs like they're going out of business.

Starting point is 01:05:06 We need to look at the options of drugs that they can administer. Maybe some of them shouldn't even be options at all. All these things are true. I'm not arguing that like the system failed her. I will argue with people saying her husband completely failed her in every facet. Are there things that he fell short on? Sure. Let the person who's perfect be the first to throw a stone from a glass.

Starting point is 01:05:28 last house though. This is a guy who moved his home office back into his place, you know, went to appointments with her, tried to get her help. I could nitpick it and say there's some things he didn't do for sure. No one's perfect. And the fact that then the guilt goes towards him when he's a father who lost all his kids is just so fucking fucked up. And I'm not coming off that. That's crazy to me. It's absolutely fucking crazy to me. Last week, I read you, read you, meaning me, just here in the studio, read you the transcript of the phone call. And that clip went viral because people felt that and that's just my dumbass reading it. What I want you to do is listen to Lindsay Clancy's lawyer, Reddington, listen to every juror who was, who are fucking morons,

Starting point is 01:06:27 by the way, but even all them will tell you that that is one of the worst things they've ever heard in their life. Listen to anyone who's in the courtroom. We played one of them last week. Talk about the actual 911 recording, which again is not publicly available. That's why I'm saying you have to take everyone else's word who heard it. They will all tell you to a T, including her defense attorney, that it is the worst thing they've ever heard. No one could ever fake it, not the best actor in the world. And there is nothing to feel for Patrick Clancy in that tape other than pure, unabated sorrow for a father who lost his kids. So when people are coming out of there and completely ignoring evidence or changing it up, oh my God, you should have seen some of the DMs I got

Starting point is 01:07:10 where like it's just verifiably false. You can go look at the evidence of the case, look at the testimony and the claims that are being made, you know, about like, oh, he crushed up pills in her in her lemonade and everything. And it's definitely provable that he put it in the lemonade because she never Frank Lemon. That's not true. Even the psychiatrist said on the stand, he's like it's common for someone who's trying to commence suicide to do it in a drink that has taste to it because you're crushing up a bunch of pills, which is what's alleged right there, and trying to off yourself. Like this is perfectly reasonable explanation. You know, to see people just want to assume it was the man that did it is crazy. And we're going to get to the holdout juror here. because it was a little, as we said, the outside is a little news on that today. That is quite a boomerang effect on where society is here from like the worst kind of irony. I mean, I mean, D. I just said a lot right there. But you were looking at everything coming back this week.

Starting point is 01:08:13 What do you think? I mean, I think she did that. And she needs to answer for that. Who's talking right now? I am. Who's I? Joey. Okay.

Starting point is 01:08:31 I think that started. It's like Ed Norton in Primal Fear. I think that started. Whether I may. Yeah. I think that started with someone else and then landed on Aaron. Yeah, I mean, listen, it's not looking good. It's not looking good.

Starting point is 01:08:47 And I know if that were me in her position, probably would have gotten 20 to life already. I think so And there have been plenty Not trying to make it A gender thing It's just like hey Kids

Starting point is 01:09:01 You killed the kids I mean Let's let's wrap this up It's almost time for lunch Is the way I see it But I don't know Maybe I'm callous That's how I do it too

Starting point is 01:09:09 And by the way It's not unprecedented That like when there's been a man on trial Who killed his kids That he claimed That he was mentally incapacitated And a jury agreed with that That has happened before

Starting point is 01:09:22 To be clear it's just wild how much attention this one has gotten which also then leads to the top line issue even above the whole case itself which is like all right why are they lighting a fucking gasoline fire on this at all time so that the whole fucking feed is filled with this what else is happening right yeah i don't want you talking yeah i was like oh are we sending troops to iran like what's the what's the deal here yeah yeah and you know when when you watch the testimony of the state's witnesses. So I want to be clear, like in this case, I'm talking about the state's

Starting point is 01:09:58 witnesses because both sides bring on their expert witnesses and that's how every case ever has worked. In fairness to all the lawyers involved from the prosecution of Reddington. It's always you bring on your experts. I bring on mine. They agree to find different conclusions or whatever. It's one of those things. It's just a part of how the case works. It makes it messy. It makes it incentivized because experts are paid witnesses as well, you know, but the state's witness determined that she was not in psychosis. And again, you can put on the act later. Kevin Reddington came up with this postpartum defense later.

Starting point is 01:10:34 This wasn't the defense when she was arrested. And I do want to play that real quick right off, right out of the gate here. So under the Reddington section, you see the one that's greened. There's a lot of clips where Kevin, his first name's Kevin, right? I'm not fucking that up. It's Kevin Reddington? I think so. Did my brain just fuck up?

Starting point is 01:10:55 Short, I just always call him Reddington. No, no, it's Kevin. Okay. All right. So, there's a lot of clips over the past couple weeks of not only what he said in court where he made no argument that Lindsay Clancy didn't do this. The whole case was built on them admitting they did this. And I do want to say I saw a lawyer.

Starting point is 01:11:16 There's a long video on Instagram of a lawyer explaining legal jujitsu as to why this isn't necessarily her admitting she did. it. Sorry, not buying it. If you're a defense attorney and you have all the time in the world to go make this case. And I'm talking even before the trial when you're at the pretrial hearings and everything. And like eventually it comes down to, okay, are we going to argue guilty or not guilty by reason of insanity? Which means in both cases it's like an admission, and I'll put that in her quotes, that she actually did it. there's no fucking way the guy would triple down so hard on not only defending that in court, but also

Starting point is 01:11:56 openly saying there were sometimes where he danced around it, but eventually he openly was saying that not only does he think it's ridiculous all the conspiracy theories against Patrick Clancy, but that like Lindsay supports him and that he was a supportive husband of her and everything

Starting point is 01:12:14 and like it's clear that he did not do this. So let's play this second video right there. There's a lot of videos I could play. I don't want to play too many of them, but this one right here from one of his recent interviews after the case was listed as a mistrial. Well, Kevin hasn't come out and really done a full-throated support of Patrick Clancy. I have repeatedly said and did during the trial and prior to the trial. Listen to the 911 call and the gut.

Starting point is 01:12:45 The public has not heard it. The jury. I understand that. the judge made that ruling. But I've said repeatedly the gut-wrenching horror that is in his voice. No actor in California could ever imitate that. It's obvious that Patrick was a man who stood by his wife through all of the difficulty of the medical issues, the psychiatric issues, the pharmaceutical issues, and even up to the time of trial, and even afterwards. And a man ought to be able to move on with his life and stop with the speculation and horrific conspiracy allegations that he was

Starting point is 01:13:22 involved with some massive conspiracies to kill his children. So what do you say to the people who are still pushing that theory that Patrick Clancy was involved in these children's murder? As I've said before, I think that it's horrific what this man is going through. He's entitled to move on with his life and the fact that he's moved on with his life and still is standing by Lindsay, as far as the legal issues tells the tale. Now, there are going to be people there who call, I can already see it.

Starting point is 01:13:50 He'll be like, well, he's not saying directly that he definitely didn't do it. He's leaving the door open and he's just trying to set a public threat. Listen, people. He's a defense attorney. He's always going to watch how he says every goddamn thing. Apparently, he didn't look up how a pardon works,

Starting point is 01:14:06 though. I did see that. He asked Trump for a fucking pardon. It's a state case. Maybe my lawyers can help me out with that, I don't think that's really how it works. Anyway, but when it comes to the case, like the actual case, of course he's why, and this is not a dumb attorney. This guy's a good attorney. Like, he's watching every little thing he says.

Starting point is 01:14:24 But he did this in, from what I counted, nine different interviews that I saw over just the last couple days, which means there were way more, where he was repeatedly and in different, some different words every time, saying this exact point. And he also, there was the prosecution, one place where they did do it,

Starting point is 01:14:43 an excellent job during the case. And I think the prosecution, you know, they could have done a better job in plenty of spots, no doubt about that. But one place where they did do a very good job is laying out the minute by minute timeline in the husband's testimony, Patrick Clancy's testimony, as to where he was at each point so that you could determine that completely and not get arguments against it. And that, at the end of the day, appears to be an agreed upon outcome. And like I said, every juror went out of their way to say this. Now, let's talk about those jurors, though. I have often said in different contexts over the years, and it's a little, it's a tough thing because, like, juries are a key part of the American system and our justice system, which has a lot of good to it.

Starting point is 01:15:39 I obviously always point out a lot of problems with it, but when you compare it into the history of the world, there's a lot of good things about our system. But one unfortunate thing about it that I've often said cynically is that in many cases, not always, but in many cases, juries are comprised of people who are a little too dumb to get out of fucking jury duty. It's not hard to do. Okay? and you know you shouldn't necessarily say that I will hypocritically admit that it's not a nice thing to say in america because juries are a pillar of the system but you know people got busy lives and stuff they don't always have time to sit there for fucking three months during a murder trial i certainly would never be able to do it and i'd be able to make that case very quickly when being called upon jury duty like i would not be able to operate my business without me being here and so there we go but you know there's other people who are like not the worst thing in the world a little paid time off. Yeah. Little, you know.

Starting point is 01:16:37 Lunch. Well, free lunch. Get to sit here and play true crime. Yeah. Right? And one of the stories I've always cited, I don't know if he would want me to say his last name. I want to say his last name because it's kind of a flex as far as like what he did here

Starting point is 01:16:55 because I always thought it's the funniest thing ever. But I have a friend named Tommy. And I won't say his last name, but we're going to call him Tommy. And this guy, I'm trying to think if I should change, change his geolocation. Let's just say this guy went way back with him. He's a friend from college. He's one of those hilarious dudes who's way too good looking for his own good, always getting the most women imaginable.

Starting point is 01:17:25 And his whole schick is like he's kind of like an asshole, but it's like assumed that you have to understand that he's that because it's funny. and then you like him. And that means some people fucking hated him, but a lot of people fucking loved him. And greatest guy ever. This family is on the brink of civil war. On September 18th, Mobland.

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Starting point is 01:18:00 Do I have to do everything myself? You want to want? I'll give you a more. Mobland. New season hits September 18th on Paramount Plus. But anyway, Tommy is someone I would describe as a very macho, heterosexual male. And he bought a shirt the first time he was called the jury duty and he actually had to, like, show up to do it. So he goes out and he buys this shirt.

Starting point is 01:18:28 And this guy's about 6364, a boxer decked. deck the fuck up, probably fucking 3% body fat. He buys a shirt that is about four to five sizes too small. So the sleeves are all the way up here. It is literally choking him out. And the shirt simply says, I heart my two dads. That motherfucker walked into the jury pool and within three minutes was struck and out of there. For the simple fucking effort of going to a thrift shop and buying the gayest shirt imaginable.

Starting point is 01:19:03 at a small size. That's how easy it is to get out of jury duty in this country. So when you see 12 people to get on to jury duty, they're not sending their best in many cases. Unfortunately, I hate that I'm saying that. I really do, but I have said it before. And some people will grow me for that, but it is what it is. So when I saw these people come forward this week and do so with what I would call a vendetta in many of the cases, towards the lone juror that seemed to hold out here, I was quite disappointed. So let's start with, I think, my favorite of all of them. Juror number one, can we play the first clip of her saying, I would say the quiet part out loud, but there's really nothing quiet about this.

Starting point is 01:19:48 I just want you guys to hear this so that I, you know, I'm not thinking I'm sitting here crazy hearing this. and there's going to be we got a few clips here here we go juror one not sure if rogue is the right word so but

Starting point is 01:20:05 every one of us in the hours of a frustration would get up and walk the room because you just couldn't sit there's good you gotta walk and we'd all go out of the car with the exhibits he

Starting point is 01:20:18 he I think got up to the car once very briefly and went back to a seat he would not He would not interact with us and try to understand. We read him on numerous occasions, the definition of reasonable doubt from Judge Sullivan's instruction. He actually said one day in the end, well, why don't we have the judge come in and read it again? And we were like, no, we have it in front of us.

Starting point is 01:20:51 No, we're going to make that decision for you. And we would highlight it and you know so and so this is the definition of reason above But he had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children He had the hardest time getting he had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed his children Bits did you fucking play that back to yourself do you hear what you just said? He had the hardest time I'm getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:21:29 Maybe because she viciously fucking killed his children. Her children. What fuck are we doing here? I knew that was coming. That was one crash out. I absolutely knew it was coming because she's just beautiful. Let's play the next clip of this extremely smart, high IQ, certainly not pressuring highfalutin woman who sat on.

Starting point is 01:21:56 So I don't want to dwell too much on the autopsy photos, but I want to ask, because I think that it's obviously important that the violence that was done to the children was represented as they were the victims in this. However, from my perspective, I thought they spent too much time, the prosecution, on the autopsy photos, and I felt that it was unfair to you, the jurors, considering that the act had been admitted to. What was your reaction to the amount of autopsy photos that you had to see? Yeah, I thought it was too much. I thought the prosecution was just trying to get us to realize how horrific the whole thing was. That's their job! The whole thing was horrific. But I think they wanted to keep piling on the morbid pictures and the morbid part of it.

Starting point is 01:22:52 at all, which was not even what we were trying to just prove whether she knew what she was doing or she didn't know what she was doing. When the asteroid gets sent, I got the coordinates for you. I got the coordinates, God. I just wherever, yeah. I don't mean that literally. You too. Don't strike me down for that.

Starting point is 01:23:25 The prosecution, it was a little too morbid. It was too morbid for us. It's morbid because the fucking bitch killed all her kids. What do you want him to do? Say, yeah, she killed him. Just take our word for it. No. In any murder case, whether it's kids, adults, anything,

Starting point is 01:23:42 they show you all of the images. I feel like I got to get Joseph Scott Morgan in here to describe exactly how this goes down in court again. But this is what happens in every fucking trial. And these people are so soft that they're like, and don't get me wrong, I think it's horrible that, unfortunately in cases, in any case, whether it's kid or adults, that people do have to see these

Starting point is 01:24:05 things. And that is the job of the jury. I'm not saying they should be like, oh, yeah, great, I'm seeing dead bodies. I'm not saying it's nice in any way. Don't mishear me. But the fact that they didn't, these people who are preaching on how the job's supposed to work, because apparently they're professional fucking jurors when you listen to them to talk all this week, you know, they are also sitting here and quite literally saying that the most important part of their job, which is taking a look at the evidence at hand was just a little too much for their safe space. Okay? No, I just really can't do this. Okay? It's, it's giving too much. It's giving too much. They're saying, I mean, they're setting back women so many years. Shout out to all the

Starting point is 01:24:48 women out there that don't feel this way. I know there's a way more of you, but holy shit. So that one right there. The next link was also a little bit of overlap with her talking about viciously killing the kids. I'm going to skip some videos here just because they're going to piss me off too much. But they talked about being entertained by Redington. They talked about him like he was the hottest thing ever, which not to defend them at all because I think it was ridiculous and obviously I'm making fun of them. Unfortunately, this is a part of any courtroom. The Riz wins. The Riz is important. So regardless of the context in which they were talking about it, which I thought was gross and ridiculous. Yeah, I will say the prosecution's table,

Starting point is 01:25:30 wasn't working with a lot of Riz. And the branding could have been a little better on the government's part. I will say that. And the guy Reddington, think what you want of him, got incredible charisma. Incredible charisma. It's just wild that they're like,

Starting point is 01:25:43 they're so openly laughing and smiling and citing that in such a serious case involving children who are the victims that they seem to not even want to talk about and, you know, like, totally discount. They also talked about and they explained this in a long-winded rant, but they talked about how the holdout juror

Starting point is 01:26:05 was expressing reasonable doubt. You heard the first clip where that was mentioned, and there were more clips where these three jurors were all talking about it. And what's very clear from it is that he most likely, and we can't know this for sure, never said the words, I have reasonable doubt. They were trying to pressure him into convincing himself

Starting point is 01:26:24 that what he was saying was reasonable doubt. And as you heard them say, when he wanted the judge, to come in there to give a clarification on stuff, they said, nah, hon, you don't need the judge. We got you. We are the judge. We're the judge jury and executioner here.

Starting point is 01:26:40 We're executing everyone but Lindsay. There was also a part where some of the jurors were nurses, and they were playing expert in the room. Do we have that link, thief? We should pull that one up. It's supposed to be equal in a jury room as far as like people all coming around and assessing the evidence and then come. coming to a conclusion here. The expertise is supposed to occur in the courtroom. I'm not saying

Starting point is 01:27:07 human beings are perfect. I'm not saying someone at one point doesn't say, why I've been fucking doing this, right? You know, I'm sure some of that stuff happens. But when nurses start talking about like drug administration and what it does to you and stuff to try to sway the other jurors, that's kind of interesting. Let's, is this the, this is the right-up. Okay. So Judge Sullivan is getting calls to hold public contempt hearings involving jurors who like Lindsay Clancy are themselves nurses in the Clancy murder trial. This is from Mike Kobe, Wildhorse at Wild underscore Horse. On Twitter, three female jurors said nurses on the panel answered questions about medications and guided jurors through hospital and toxicology reports during deliberations. I've served on a jury.

Starting point is 01:27:46 Jurors are required to rely only on evidence presented in court. Medical questions should have been answered by sworn experts or sent to the judge for clarification, not explained by jurors using their personal knowledge. The nurse jurors are accused of acting as unsworn experts. and using their interpretations to influence the panel and pressure the loan holdout juror to vote not guilty. The jury reportedly deliberated for more than 36 hours across seven days before becoming deadlocked 11-1. Discussions allegedly became so heated that alternate jurors thought they were fighting. The nurse jurors should face contempt hearings. That's his spec, not mine, but kind of interesting.

Starting point is 01:28:20 Kind of interesting that they're playing an expert in there for sure. The best, though, that last link. Can you hit that last one? Six. On under one, two, and three. Sorry. Yeah, right there. Three Lindsay Clancy jurors say they plan to attend a potential retrial in support of Clancy after the four person called the mistrial, quote, so heartbreaking unquote. We're literally talking about pink shirt ladies who served on the jury and are now going to put on the pink shirts and hold up signs and heart signs for the lady that killed her kids.

Starting point is 01:28:55 That's where we're at here, people. So juror four, who I believe was disguised identity. They didn't show her face. basically said that she felt I don't think she did she use the word bullied I don't want to say that if she didn't use the official word I believe she said pressured not bullied yeah I can't see until we watch

Starting point is 01:29:19 let's let's do that so that there's no mistakes here I don't want the evidence presented as it is don't take my word for it we're going to pull this up but interesting conversations leading into the her eventually saying that she was going to be voting not guilty by reason of insanity. She was another juror, though, that clarified that the 911 call was the worst thing she ever heard and that there's no way

Starting point is 01:29:44 that could have been faked and she felt awful for Patrick Clancy and that when she left, once the trial was over and she got back online and saw all the conspiracy theories about him, she thought that was completely wrong. Anyway, let's play this first clip. Deves got it. that person, the majority of the room was trying to kind of sway that person from the very beginning. So, where did you come down from the very beginning? Like, what was your vote? So, originally I felt as though she was guilty and she was criminal responsible for it. And maybe I still believe that in a certain way. So she's talking about to be clear. So again, I want to make sure I have this right,

Starting point is 01:30:28 We got a lot of links here and we're running through all this. She's referring to the pressure on the loan juror, not on her. So I want to be clear about that. So if I'm wrong on the front end, let's make sure we have that on the record right there. Obviously, we're not perfect in here. We always point that out. But she then, and I will say this is implicit, not explicit for sure, but she says that originally her vote would have been for guilty

Starting point is 01:30:53 and that she was liable for it, meaning not insane. and that what did she say? I guess maybe there's a part of me that still feels that way? Which would imply that when she's talking about the pressure on the holdout juror that perhaps there was pressure on her

Starting point is 01:31:10 because she's sitting here after the trial and she's like, well maybe I still feel that fucking way. I don't know. That's implicit, not explicit. I want to be very clear on that. That's pure spec and opinion on my part. Very interesting, though. Then you had juror five. Now, there were obviously 12 jurors.

Starting point is 01:31:24 Nine of them were women. three of them were men. This is one of the men. And unfortunately, this is not a great example for courageous men in this country. Because you're going to hear in this clip what really shocked him. And hint, it wasn't the fact that there were three viciously murdered kids. You wouldn't engage or couldn't find. something to support his view. There was times he wouldn't engage, like he'd be scrolling on his phone while people are talking to him.

Starting point is 01:32:09 That's another thing. We did look at this just to make sure we weren't crazy. It's not supposed to be phones in a jury in a jury room. I even specifically looked it up related to the Clancy jury because it said when I went to the rule they're like generally speaking, it's not allowed in a jury room. Then I said, were there phones supposed to be allowed in the Clancy trial jury deliberations? And the answer was hard no. but he's referring to the holdout juror in this case who's the guy we're defending by the way having a phone and not then saying by the way none of us had phones either right like so maybe implying that people had phones in there meaning god forbid they had access to the internet to see what people were fucking saying and maybe their algorithm i don't know that's total pure spec but kind of interesting he said that let's keep going things like that dargy told us one time he confronted the holdout after the man picked up what clancy used to strangle her kids. He took the exercise band out of the bag, grabbed an empty water bottle,

Starting point is 01:33:07 and tied the band around the water bottle. Did he explain why he did that? No. He might have. I'm not entirely. I think I was just so shocked that he did that. I'm like, shocked. Is that a mimic of how she killed the children? Yeah, I assume so, yeah. What did you think when he did that. I was shocked. It didn't make any sense to me. We're not in here to play detective or it's not a game of clue. Like this is serious. I asked him why why was why are you doing that? That's a band that was used to strangle a child. It's disgusting. He's so shocked that the guy uses a water bottle to attempt to appeal to the humanity people in there. but he's not shocked that he's sitting there

Starting point is 01:34:02 ignoring the most important victims that are supposed to be with them in the room the kids that's a weak weak man right there and i will die on that fucking hill there is nothing that happened this week that did not make me feel like i was way too soft last week let alone aggressive you really have to think about this stuff i had to think about this stuff i had to people being like, how could you question the Charlie Kirk thing, but not question this. It's like, it's not that I'm not questioning all the piece of evidence presented.

Starting point is 01:34:37 We are in trial mode here. We are getting all the evidence presented. It's out there. Not everything looks amazing for Patrick Clancy, like as a husband, as I already said. Not everything looks cut and dry from a like, are you God and can you know what's in someone's mind 100%? Sure. But like the burden of proof to prove that you're in psychosis, that point, at that point, like the burden of proof is on the government to prove the case.

Starting point is 01:35:02 And I do think they did plenty to do that. They could have done a better job for sure. But like, the burden to prove that you hear a voice in whatever, which can't even be proved, is like hypothetically on you. And I'm saying hypothetically because my legal scholars out there are going to pick apart every little word I say right here, especially if they disagree with me. So I don't want to get in hot water. But like, she is trying to say, no, I was crazy with the defense that they came up with later. There's a lot we're not going to get to today, but there is one more thing

Starting point is 01:35:38 as we've been talking about the whole way. Today, we found out not the actual identity of the holdout juror, but we found out some of his attributes. We got that clip from Gail King, who was... It's like this took her breath away, Joey Defe.

Starting point is 01:35:58 Well, here we come. Right? Absolutely. She had to sit with it. She had to sit with it. Maybe she... Yeah. I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men.

Starting point is 01:36:11 What was the age range? What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard any of that. What was it? 70-ish to 22. And one person of color and then everybody else was white. A lot of the jurors had children. One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man?

Starting point is 01:36:35 A man. A man. Is a holdout juror, a person, a black man? Yes. A black man is a holdout juror? Yes. Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. What the fuck do you have to sit with?

Starting point is 01:36:53 Like, I don't know what's going on in that household, but I also saw like an Oprah fucking roundtable where they're clapping for a woman saying, let's make sure we have the same energy for all the black women who killed their children. And like everyone in the room fucking claire, yeah, sister, that's right. How about we not have energy for fucking people to kill their children? How about we focus on the children first?

Starting point is 01:37:17 Some of the same people who claim to care so much about all the victims in the Epstein files seem to care about everyone except the kids who were fucking systematically murdered here. Or at least they want to explain away why their loving mother did this to them and didn't know that she did it. But Gil King here finds out and is shut. She was like, oh, I'm sorry, I've got to sit with that. I can't believe someone who happens to share my skin color would possibly think that this woman's not guilty by reason of insanity. And it is the ultimate symbol right here, because we have already demonstrated how all this majority female jury room was pressuring this holdout juror all week to change his opinion. Seemingly, allegedly, Pure Speck putting some words in his mouth to try to make this happen and are now going on this giant,

Starting point is 01:38:05 public tirade campaign, many of them with their faces out there, to try to impeach his character, do all these different things. And I know nothing about this guy. We don't know anything about him right now. But what we do know is that he was the one person in there who's like, you know, maybe the kids actually are the victims here, which is the most important thing. So to be clear, the nine women on this jury, at least of the ones we've seen, these are the exact kind of women who would have been out there with signs and holding up heart signs, not even just for Lindsay Clancy at this trial, but six years ago during George Floyd and everything with BLM, saying, you know, every fucking regular line that was pushed upon society at that time to basically apologize

Starting point is 01:38:47 for every person who's ever existed and anything they would have ever done to someone who's a minority, which got way beyond the pale and obviously pissed off a lot of society. These are the exact types of people who would have been doing that. And what's ironic is that they would have been saying things at the time like, oh, we need to really amplify black and multi multicultural voices and put them at the forefront and take them seriously and listen to them. But when push comes to shove, according to this right here, we have a jury filled with those women pressuring the lone holdout who happens to be a black man and then speaking out against him publicly after the fact and basically saying his opinion's wrong.

Starting point is 01:39:28 In fact, it's almost criminal what he was doing because he was ignoring the law. So the moment they get put to the test to actually put their money where their mouth is, and I don't know, and by the way, it should never be this way. It has nothing to do with race. But if you want to play their game, the moment they get put to the test and they have to amplify multicultural voices or whatever, they say, shut the fuck up, get in your place and do what we tell you what to do. If that's not the ultimate sign of the hypocrisy of the hypocrisy of the hypocrisy of America, I should say, I don't know what is. And it's really, really fucking sad to me. God, I love this country. I love this country. So I did talk with Vivian Kubrick, Stanley Kubrick's daughter this week. We are not going to have time to get to that this week. I will go through that next week. I had a nice back and forth. I got permission from Vivian to share 90% of it on the record. There was one paragraph we removed that was a private

Starting point is 01:40:27 paragraph between me and her. It was perfectly innocent, by the way. It was just very side-note kind of thing. So thank you to Vivian for reaching out on that. I will discuss that. Obviously, Stanley Kubrick or father did eyes wide shut. I've been talked about that the last couple episodes with some of the speculation on the missing footage. She has had a lot to say there in response to that. And we did a nice little back and forth. So I will get to that. And there's a couple other things as well that we did not get to. But I am going to take, when I see things that are common sense to me. I am willing to look at the evidence, build it, and be comfortable with the idea that if someone presents better evidence to me in the future, I will say I was wrong with the same volume with which

Starting point is 01:41:08 I think I'm right right now. And right now, I feel very, very strongly about this Lindsay Clancy, huge distraction case, as I said, by the way, if in the future someone actually shows me good evidence, not the stuff I saw this week that was all shitty evidence at best, I'll apologize. And I'll say, you know what, maybe, maybe she had no idea. But brother, sister, whoever's listening, she killed her kids. That said, give it a thought, get back to me. Peace. Peace.

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