Julian Dorey Podcast - MATAN on Joining Mossad, Meeting Epstein & Elon Musk's Brain | #461

Episode Date: August 12, 2026

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I'm a generalist. I do all different topics. That's what keeps this show fresh, and that's what I love about it. That said, this is, without a doubt, the most different kind of podcast I have ever done. For those of you that are already familiar with Matan, you already know what you're about to get. He is one of my most requested, if not the most requested guest of all time. Baron Coleman obviously was like huge over the last couple months. but over the history of my podcast, I constantly have people asking me to have Matan on.

If you are not familiar with Matan, he'll never admit this. But he plays a character online. And what he does is he comments on social, cultural, and political events through this character. It is very funny. It is satirical. It's way over the top. And like, we just did it live for a couple hours enrolled with it. And I stayed in character with him on the other side.

And you'll see several times. Like, I just broke because it's absolutely hysterical. But none of it is meant to be taken literally. Like, if you see his channel, this is what he does and what it is. But it's basically an episode, if I could describe it, like Seinfeld. It's about nothing but everything at the same time. And it was absolutely hysterical. So a lot of you are going to love this.

Some of you are going to be like, what the fuck is this? Either way, for those of you that this is not for, I'll see you for the next episode. This is also the first time in the history of my podcast, I've left in a bathroom break. Like, didn't cut that part out like you always do, obviously, when you're not by the mics. Because it was hysterical. and Matan is just like extremely entertaining. So if you have not subscribed, please subscribe. Also, please hit that like button.

It is a big help. YouTube is really emphasizing that these days. So I appreciate you guys hitting the thumbs up. And that said, please enjoy. What you spray in there? A smiley face. Spraying a smiley face with my Lysol from my bathroom. Yes.

Just make you feel good. That's exactly right. Steal other people shit and just make yourself at home. I'm in your house. I'm a guess. Well, this is what Mossade agents do. Are we filming now? we're filming. You didn't even give me a notice. It doesn't matter. We're on. But like the, you know,

Massad agents, they come in, they play with all your shit, they tell you what to do. And don't, don't fuck with my angles. Hold on a minute. Danny, now we got to go fix that. Did he fuck with it? I don't even remember what the focals were there. Yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. We'll mark it in a minute. You just, like, you're not answering my question. Everyone on the internet is pretty sure you are in the Massad. In the Mossad? And you've never denied it. I guess I would deny it I've been asked it before actually

yeah and I've denied it yeah but I mean the Mossad but so you weren't Jeffrey Epstein's son that's not true you weren't born at Zorro unfortunately not that would have been pretty cool imagine living that life why would have been cool

okay for one you have a bunch of money and your daddy's a legend a legend you think Jeffrey Epstein's a legend yeah why do you think he's a legend I mean does anybody think about him anymore and like get like a disgusting tasting their stomach

I feel like that time has passed. I mean, I get a pretty disgusting taste in myself. Yeah, listen, I was like a little bitch too for like a little bit, but now I've got past that. What are you telling him? I'm just directing over here. I got to produce the show as well, you know? You're keeping Daniel off balance fucking with our cameras.

And by the way, when you were coming in here, you started touching all the electric equipment, I noticed. Like, were you putting any bugs in there? The electric equipment? Yeah, anything that's like plugged in. I started fucking with it. Unfocus all your cameras. You were unfocused in too much.

Because you want to have the camera on you the whole time. No, no. I would have done it to those ones too if I was close enough. Uh-huh. But these are within hands or each little. Right. Right. So you're just going to make them have to fix this the entire time.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to ask you to not touch the cameras again. Is that a thread? You said that so threateningly. It's, well, I mean, you're the one that sprayed Lysol on me. I'm cleaning your table for you. You're not cleaning my table. It's wood.

You know that liquid is not very good for wood. I did not know that. You're probably unaware of this. I'm unaware of it. Yes. Well, now you're, I've made you aware. Awesome. Well, no, I, I'm not Mossad.

I have been asked that before. Who asked you that? A couple people. I think Sneako asked me that. Sneako's kind of onto that. You know, he's always looking out for the, you got duck and dive, the little Mossad allegations. He's always trying to find things, you know.

Yes. He hasn't found anything. He's found nothing. Not one thing? I don't even know if he knows where he lives. I think he just happens to find out every. once in a while just by luckily stumbling across it maybe. Is this what you're like all day?

Like what? Like this? Like this all day? Yeah. There you go. So do you like get yourself ready in the mirror in the morning? Do you have to put that face on and like, you know, kind of like frown like that a little bit? I'm just relatively serious all the time, you know what I mean?

Yes. I don't have to look in the mirror and make a face. Is that something you do? No. I would say just imagine the way I behave is exactly like you if you were way more intelligent and aware of your surroundings at all times So you don't think I'm intelligent I didn't say that at all

Well you said if I were way more intelligent and aware of my surroundings Which makes me if you were more so not if you were more so I've been very aware of everything you're doing I'm aware of what you've done to my table How could you not be aware of that? You'd have to be physically blind to not be aware of that's true But there's a lot going on That's not being particularly aware of your surroundings say there's a massive bunch of shit on my table.

I understand that, but I was kind of out of the room when half of this was happening watching your guys attempt to plant bugs in my place. No, they wouldn't. He was going to do this all right. Just a little bit. You're going to make this difficult, aren't you? On him, because he said he's not the producer

and you're not paying him any extra money. He's just the editor on Instagram Reels. I pay Danny a lot of money. No, he said he doesn't get extra money for this. Danny Gonzalez is a killer, bro. He told me for a fact when you weren't here, you're not giving him extra money for this. Did you really tell him that?

I didn't get you're getting extra money. I'm saying I'm just, this is just my... He said he's doing it. You're already losing. Come on. Yeah, you see how he's stumbling across his words now? He's stumbling across his words

because he's a nervous individual. He absolutely told me he's not getting any extra money for doing this. When did you ask him that when I was in the Pichidoo? Is that the bathroom? Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what I asked. You gave him this information without my permission.

Oh, I told you this guy's in the fucking mess. You can't just bond here that kind of stuff. I thought the beside. Oh, it only came around Tuesdays. No, they're never here. Oh. But they're planning bugs outside right now. Why did you roll in with like five fucking guys?

Well, I had a couple people with me. You had a couple people with you. What are they doing out there? What are their instructions? They're probably sitting on their phone right now watching like Hitler speeches on Instagram Reels. The ones that are translated back into English. No, just in German.

Pure German. So they speak German. But they're learning. They're learning. Is that you making them learn that? No, this is like outside of my control. That's just what's on Instagram. nowadays.

Right. I'm not telling them to do that. I don't even know if they're far right. That's just what shows up nowadays. But you're far right. I would say on some topics, yes. What topics? It depends what.

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On abortion, that's an interesting one. You're saying, You want to move to one because that's boring or you want to stay on it? No, I'm saying let's start with a real boring one. Well, I think there's a birth problem, right? You think there's a birth problem? Well, you don't agree that? I feel like that's kind of objective.

What? That we're not producing enough? I agree with that. Yeah. So why don't we just collect a lot of smart, relatively attractive people and then not give them a choice? So beyond abortion, I'm kind of a eugenics master. You're a eugenics master. So you want like the highest IQs, you know.

Yeah, but they won't agree to do. this. So at some point you just have to implement a small amount of slavery, but it's for the good of the world. A small amount of slavery. What would that look like? It would look like a small amount of slavery. Like, you know, is it kind of like you're... It would look like you go to a school of like people who are in college above the age of 18. Because that's just this arbitrary law we've decided. What's arbitrary? 18. We'll move on. Okay. So you get these 18 year olds, you figure out who's the smartest and then you turn them into slaves, basically. Now, how would you figure that?

Before you turn them into slaves, when you're figuring out who's the smartest, is it just like an IQ test or how would you determine that? There's a couple things. That would be one of them. Maybe you asked them if they watch shows like this. And what would the correct answer be to get them to be smart? If they say yes, it completely eliminates them from the prospect of being a slave. So actually, you'd be saving all of your fans from being slaves.

Okay. So the ones who are not smart don't have to be slaves. What do they do? I'll come back to the slaves in a second. Also, I drank out of that before you stole it. No, that's not true. It's very true. I refilled it.

I drink a lot of water. No, it's not true. You're lying to. Gross me out. It's 100%. I saw the water was completely through. I don't have herpes or anything as far as I know, but, you know. I saw the water there completely.

Uh-huh. All right. Now you're going to spray my phone's right there too. No. Now you'll get sick. It'll be in your nose all day. Yeah, but the straw's up pretty high. So anyway, back to their slaves and non-slaves before he starts spraying away.

So you don't even know what I can do. Okay, go ahead, whatever you were saying. I don't know what you can do. I don't know what they told you and told you and told of you. But back to the slaves and non-slave's thing. So the people that you would characterize as dumb don't have to be slaves, isn't that kind of like you're rewarding them for being dumb? That's exactly true. Yeah.

Now, why would you do that? Why would you reward somebody for being smart? It's not like it was up to them to be smart. Yeah, but it wasn't up to them to be dumb. And you said you're a eugenicists. Okay, but we're doing this pragmatically. We're not just doing this in a fair way. What are you trying to like make sure that there's no, uh,

direct cause of who becomes a slave, that's retarded. Why is that retarded? Because then you'll get a bunch of dumb slaves. But isn't that what everyone who's done slavery throughout history always wanted it to be so that the slaves would not be smart and uprise them? So you're saying, you're flipping it around, you're saying, no amount of intelligence can get you out of a metal room if you're chained by every limb. If you're chained by it, so you would chain them.

Because you said it was only moderate slavery. When I picture a metal room and someone chained by every limb, that's kind of like a lot of slavery. amount of it. Very extreme circumstances, but only for like 100,000 people. On a scale of one to Django, what are we talking? I haven't seen that movie. Oh, Django, which one?

That was the one with Jamie Fox and Leonardo. I thought you're talking about the one with the lizard. The lizard. Yeah. Django. What was one? Yeah, Django and Chame. Yeah, yeah, that's a slave movie.

But what's the lizard one? The lizard with the gun. An awesome lizard who fights the snake. I don't remember this one I must have missed it Rango Rango Can we look that up

Rango I think I missed that one Yeah that's a real movie So you don't want to go like full Django I don't really remember Exactly what happens in the movie But doesn't he kind of get free Relatively easily

And then isn't there like a law That once he's bought out for free He's then a free man And you can't like even take him Well technically with Jango yes But then they broke that law Because that's what the slave owners would do Okay but that's illegal

Like technically that would be have been illegal they're just breaking the law also okay so that obviously has to be we have to be more extreme than that you have to be more extreme than that this is a pragmatic thing i'm doing this isn't me supporting slavery this is trying to get a bunch of uh a bunch of children born right so you were picturing rango here yes yeah that's an unfortunate looking creature he's an awesome lizard he's green and he's smart and he has a gun and he fights a snake and he fights the snake so you were rooting for him over the snake absolutely so you know the devil was a snake i haven't I can watch the movie in a while, but I think the snake has a rattling gun.

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You just answered that by even asking me. Why did I answer that by even asking you? What are you going to do with the dumb people who don't fulfill your test who are not going to become slaves? They're not going to become slaves. Right. But like what are you what's going to happen to them? Are they going to like get to go out to the prairie? Like what's going on?

I would prefer everything stays disdain. same. I like the modern Western world in most of its ways. We just have to have more people so it doesn't turn into the non-Western world. Right. I'll come back to the slaves things. But when you say in most of its ways, what ways don't you like? There's a couple of them. I guess it depends when you ask like where I'm at where I have right political views. I guess it just depends on the problem. So what might be a problem? Like trans, that kind of stuff. Yeah, I think that should be illegal. You think it should be illegal? Actually, you know what?

I think it should be legal. I take it back. I thought about it for a second. You just don't think they should be reading in kindergartens. I think it should be legal and I think they should be reading in kindergartens because it's really funny. And back in the day, people would let clowns into kindergartens to entertain the children. And I'm not saying the transgender people are clowns.

I'm just saying typically they look like them. Right. So you're saying it's on brand then? Well, I mean, they're usually entertaining, at least, like when they're, talking about the drag queens in the kindergartens, I used to be concerned too. Like, you know, I don't want my, if I have children seeing that, I wouldn't want any of my family who are young to see that, especially when they're that young. But then again, it's like, you know, it's like a real time movie you get to watch. It's a real time movie, like a comedy movie or just like a

documentary? I guess it's kind of like a national geographic. National geographic. Oh, you're going out there in the wild. No, they're coming to you. They're coming to you. Yeah, but that is their wild, sort of. How's that they're wild? Because clearly that's where they want to be instinctually in a kindergarten, dancing like a clown. Okay, got it. So when you hold somebody's views, you feel like not all of it is compatible with what people in the West are doing these days that you disagree with because you like the traditional West. I don't even know what you just said.

It sounds like you just said a bunch of bullshit. No, it was, there were a lot of thoughts being. When I hold these views, I want to do them but not implement them because they're not compatible with the West. Right. No, I would like to implement. them. What is what is ridiculously stupid question? I you can't call my questions ridiculously stupid because you agreed to be here. You knew what kind of questions I asked well you've been asking me for two years so I felt like no you asked me first no yes no you found my number somewhere I don't even know

where you got my people absolutely not and I'm not even saying that to like sound like uh I'm cooler than you or anything that's just not what happened so you're changing history now I don't even I think and I don't even mean this in a way to sound cool or anything, but I think you just somehow found my number. And I'm a nice guy and I'm not paranoid, so I just... So you just agreed to text me back, even though I'm just some random guy that found your number. Which never happened, by the way.

So how did we get in contact? I'm really sure that's what happened. You wanted to come on, and then I got tossed on a group text with you. Not what happened. That did happen. No. Hold on. You had the hair.

You already had the hair then. Okay, well, regardless. I don't really remember. But I'm pretty sure you found my number somewhere. Do you wake up like this or is there like work that goes into this? Very rarely I'll take a shower. Very rarely. So you don't even do the shampoo.

It's bad for your skin to shower. Yeah. What about if you have one of those like shower filter things? Well, what would that change? Well, it filters out all the bad shit. So the shower's not bad. No, water touching your skin is bad for you. Why is water touching your skin bad for you?

We're made out of water. It'll make you die quicker. Why does it make you die quicker? Because the water that you're made out of is killing you. That's what kills you. It's not compatible with the oxygen. You totally made that up. No, okay.

On the top of my head, something that complicated? I mean, it's not that complicated, but I think you made that up. It's not. It's not compatible. Why do you think people die? Why do you think people get diseases? They don't exist in their body. A lot of different reasons.

Yeah, because they're vulnerable because the water is not compatible with the oxygen. And the solution. is a is a ball of rotting meat a ball of rotting that's what you did describe a human being as no like i think it's eating one i think that's what the guy said on instagram it's a clip i saw a while ago it's a clip like a cannibal i don't think so i think the guy's probably dead by now the guy in the clip right he'll keep fixing it's okay does he have to fix it now or later no i mean he'll fix it now and then you'll probably undo it and he'll fix it again it's fine We'll get that part then.

I'm just trying to get him so irritated that by the end of this, he tells you I'm going to get paid for this. No, he's like the nicest guy. It's very hard to irritate him. Everybody has a breaking point. You could kick him in the nuts. I'm great. No, he's good. He's good.

He's good. He's good. I guess we're just going to be farther away for a lot of today. It is what it is. Yeah, yeah. So you understand like there's a lot of time that goes into lining that up to the exact right number and everything? No. You don't.

I have no idea. Well, you just make studios, right? You just fucking set up. Oh, you're saying you have to have the exact zoom in number that you said? Yeah, I'm OCD. I like it on a certain, you know, certain setting for sure. You're way beyond the point of that happening today. That ended like immediately.

It ended immediately. When the paper towel hit the ground. When the paper towel hit the ground. The paper towels you put over there that I think you let your ass with. Some other than mess I made over there. So you just put it on the ground, you know. There's a fucking trash can right here and there's two right outside the door. It's right here.

Anyone could have seen this? Yeah, you know that I can't see that. Anyone could have seen this. Where's? You were looking around at all my equipment. I know you saw the trash. Look, it has trash in it. That mini trash in it.

This has trash in it. You can see it. That doesn't even look like a trash can. It is a trash can. You can see that it is waste in here. Let me see it. Yes, don't dump it. Don't do the New York next lady shit.

I know what you're doing. You're going to take it as a super . You're not who? You not who? Oh, so if, so if you were, you would dump it yourself. And then I would steal it, yeah. You would steal it, yeah. You would steal it.

Because that's actually what happened. Right. Yeah. It's kind of racist, no. But that's not racist. That's what happened. That's what happened. Is that racist?

I think she was Spanish, but that's neither here nor there. She wasn't white, that's for sure. Could have been a little bit in there. It might have been... That's not white to me. It might have been nicked by it. Nope. Are you white?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. German. You're German. With like a small amount like Spaniard, you know, like the conquers. A little bit of Spaniard. No, is that... Spaniard, like, kicked out of Spain in the late 15th century?

No, no, no. Got it. I said the conquerors, not the conquered. Not the con. Oh, so they were conquered when they were kicked out. I mean, clearly, isn't it like 1,500 years before that, they got conquered by the Italians? Or whatever, I guess they were the Romans back then in their own place. Yeah, what year are we in?

Something like that. Something like that. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, so you're a fan of the Roman Empire. You like conquerors. I was just saying I'm like mostly German a little Spanish Mostly German a little Spanish Now like you know is this the kind of German that like in 1934

1935 say they would have considered German or is it you know I feel like we just went over a different way of describing that I'm not Jewish And now we're doing it again obviously I mean just German Everyone points at that though They're like man this guy really you don't like Israel too much Well, because I used to be Jewish You know what I mean?

You used to be so you can be un-Jewish Yeah, well, I guess by I used to think That only if you don't Become religious You can get out of being Jewish Only if you don't become religious There's a lot of secular Jews

According to who Well, that's just because the rabbis If you're born Jewish, you're Jewish forever Right Okay, well according to rabbis Who believe in the religion that I don't Right So I don't have to agree with that

I'm just not Jewish so you view it as a religion. Okay, well, I also, by the way, I don't know when this is releasing, but I recently spoke to a rabbi in my show. It hasn't released yet. It'll be out like maybe 10 days from now. Was it Shmuli? No.

Okay. That's good. When does this release? Probably around that time. In like 10 days? Yeah. Yeah, what are we, we're recording on what Thursday? So, yeah, probably like 12 days.

What day? Probably a Tuesday. But not the following Tuesday. saying that to lie to you. I don't know. Okay, well, regardless, this rabbi told me that I'm the most wicked man in the world, basically. Now, was he, he was serious? He was serious. He was serious. Did he know, like, you do a bit?

Well, that's part of it, that he thinks I'm doing a bit. I'm not, but he thinks I'm doing a bit. He thinks I'm mocking him. Like on the show or off camera, too? I didn't really interact with him that much off camera, to be honest with you. It was a big debate. What do you, like, do you talk with your people? for a while before they were on air or do you just like yeah not typically i like to start immediately if i can just get into the show so you just walk into that white this is this is super disrespectful i know

that's what i'm doing i'm trying to distract you no you weren't doing lysol 100% yeah not a distraction you sprayed you sprayed lysol at my don't try to uh coffee don't try to make me think that's a distraction i know you're just having to make text to people i i mean you should have that sorted earlier it's just the it's just the but yeah you switched it that that's right no i'm i don't i don't i I didn't switch it says live with Matan. See that? No, I'm not going to hand you my phone. Why not?

Why not? My phone despise. I'm sorry. Why? Just a matter of habit. Is he not who you'd want to hand your phone to? No. Why?

No, because I don't know what you're going to do with it. Look. Oh, I got it. I got it. I don't think you got it. Yeah, I did because that was like there's a little spray. I got at least one of them in there, yeah. So now I got a drink out of the actual thing right here.

Yeah. You did to me? Because you thought, hold on a minute. That's going to hit the mic. and then I'm going to be like huffing in whatever that is, you know. Oh, whoa. God damn it. You're fucking nailed it.

Come on. You were, you practiced that. You practiced that. That was my plan to get that straw. That was, yeah. Are you going to drink it? I have another one in the fridge. It's the brown one on the left.

Can you just bring it and put it like down there like in the bunker chamber? Are you coming? So you normally bring it back in here for you to drink. Yeah, bring it back in here for me to drink. Just don't. Are you coming? this way again he's kind of i might might as well just fix him we're gonna have to fix this thing up

yeah yeah i'll get me something to do you know yeah i'll get out my way you and i can just sit in here and wait for him but he wasn't really contributing much to the conversation was that's not what he's here to do i thought he was contributing just fine because you made him have to get up a bunch of times to fix the mic and or fix the cameras you're the one who sent him out and this is your show so i don't really care how much time you waste on it or what uh silent parts you decide to cut out yeah Because you want better retention. No, we've never done that.

Okay, well, then if you want, then it doesn't matter to me either way. Yeah. You just got to let it roll. Do you like cut out a lot of parts? No. I was going to say, it seems like you're like thing, bang, boom. Yeah. The whole time.

How do you decide who you're going to bring on? No, no, no, the brown one on the left with nothing. Thanks. How do you decide who you want to bring on? Um, I guess it depends if I'm interested to talk to them. Right. Seems like a pretty. reasonable standard.

It's a good start. So you were really interested to talk to Palm Beach, Pete. Mr. Epstein. I just think he's Epstein. So who would turn down the opportunity to talk to Epstein? Did he agree to do a DNA test?

I think he's claiming on Instagram that they're not giving it back to him. I don't really know what the situation is. He's saying that they won't give him the DNA results. Oh, he took one on separately for me. Why are you on a thing that says live with me? Are we going live?

It's not live yet. But we're going to go live? I'll decide if we're going to go live. On what on Instagram? Yeah, it would probably be on Instagram. Okay. Just trying to keep you off balance, you know. That's not really working.

It's like the level one trick. It's like, I'm going to play and do random shit on my phone and go live. I did that three years ago. Well, you know, unfortunately you stole all my cleaning supplies. So I stole them. I just moved them to a different room in your house. If I leave this apartment and then the building, then go back to LA with your half empty Lysol can,

we can call the stealing. I built this table with Danny Jones, who's a terrific craftsman. The musician? No, Danny Jones, the podcast. Danny Brown. No, no, Danny Jones. And, like, you just sprayed liquids on the table that he flew up here from Florida to build with me.

You had to have a guy fly up from Florida to build a table with six wooden planks. It's actually got eight. Should have learned that in, like, Minecraft at like 10 years old. Yeah, no. No, this is, this all happened in a day. We got this. I would, yeah, that's not impressive. He was able to put six or eight,

wooden planks together in one day. In one day. What's impressive about that? We also had to buy all the planks and we had to get them up here. We had to go to Home Depot. This doesn't sound maybe as complicated as you think it does. Listen, it was a process. We used like...

Your mic actually smells a complete shit. It smells like shit. I just had Ed Calderone there. I thought he smelled perfectly fine. That one... No, no, don't take off the cover. Oh, you're changing the cover? Okay.

That's never been done before. Oh What's what's like is Mike Mike coming in or is he just gonna like sit out and stare at me through the wall? I can feel his eyes. He's just sitting outside. Yeah. Yeah. He's always like that though. Are you always like this?

We already went out. Yeah, but I'm always like this. He's on a different level though. Like he's a crazy homeless box. Did they bring around with me to scare people? Where'd you find him? On the street. You found him on the street.

That's correct. Which street? Like which. I don't want to specify because. I feel like I might find more people where I found him and I like to acquire those people. You like to acquire them. I don't want to give other people the opportunity, make it easier for them to acquire. So when you say acquire them, are you implying to like Mike, Mike is your slave?

So you're testing out your whole slave thing. It's illegal to say slave. It's illegal to say slave. So you might. It's not illegal to say slave. It's illegal to claim he's my slave. Right. To verbally and publicly claim that.

But maybe privately. But I don't even know you like that. So if that was true, then it would still be illegal privately. I would just be risking it. And that's not happening today. So we never talked about the smart people you would turn into slaves. What if there were enough smart people above a certain IQ line that there were way more of them than there were of you?

And you weren't able to change. There were a bunch of people who had a higher IQ than me? Well, it's not possible. What is your IQ? I believe it was about 406. That's not even possible. One of the highest ever. recorded is 220. Yeah, and I

destroyed the record. You're looking at the highest IQ man in the world. Were you just born like this? That's probably how it happens for most people. Also, some environment as well. When Jeff put you in an IVF tube at Zoro You think I know Jeffrey Epstein? I mean, I do kind of, I just interview him. I mean, you kind of look like him.

An Epstein? Yeah, you look like a young Epstein. Is that just an insult or is it a Jewish joke or what? No, can we pull up his Dalton image? Just type in Jeffrey Epstein Dalton School. There's an uncanny resemblance. No, it was a high school that he taught at and then abused the... I mean, you know what he does.

Yeah, there he is. See? And let's just pull that over on the screen right there, Danny. So we got that. I can't see anything. He's about to pull it over for you. There's the window. See him?

That kind of looks. It's like remarkably similar. He's got a similar thing going on with the hair too. I actually think he looks completely different. He looks just like the most stereotypical Jew there ever, but he doesn't... What makes him look stereotypical Jew there?

His hair, his face. I mean, he could be Italian. He doesn't look Italian. That seems a little anti-Semitic of you to say. That I'm saying a guy who was extremely Jewish looks Jewish in their 40s when he's like having the bald thing or he's having to happen.

He's actually about 24 right there. Oh, really? Yeah, he doesn't look 24. He doesn't look 24. I'll agree with you there. That's 24 right there? What did he do? You said he did something bad there?

Yeah, he was a teacher. and he would go to the parties with the students. That's bad? Can't have a little fun? They were underage, so it's not great. You just said he went to Dalton, which sounds like a... No, he taught at Dalton. That's when he's a teacher.

That sounds like a college. That sounds like a college. Dalton is a high school. Oh, it's still not that. You know who the principal at Dalton was? No. Dalton? I'm actually surprised you don't know that.

Who is it? You remember Bill Barr, the Attorney General? Maybe. Okay, his dad. His dad was the principal there. This is part of a conspiracy, I'm sure. Oh, it's got to be. I mean, there's all kinds of pieces to this thing.

Yeah. Did he ever tell you officially who he worked for when you were born to him? Epstein? Yeah. No, he was denying that he was even Epstein. He was saying, oh, no, I'm Palm Beach Pete. Oh. I live in Palm Beach now.

You really think that Palm Beach Pete is Epstein? Yeah. Who was that an impression? That was Palm Beach Beach Beach. I thought it was like Joshua Block. What made you think that? That he looks like him. They grow up in the same place.

They then moved to the same place. And they're also about the same age. And he's also very... He's like three, four years younger than Epstein would be. Yeah, but that's like really impossible to prove sort of, right? I mean, how is he going to prove that he's not 74 instead of 71 or whatever? We do. I mean, we got to get that DNA test that they're holding back.

Or one that he's just lying about taking. I think he very well could be able to be. DNA tests, as I said to him, doesn't prove anything. He could get that tampered with extremely easily. Yeah. Did you know that there's an online cannabis company that ships federally legal THC straight to your door? And that they've found a way to combine THC

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Visit your local Chevrolet dealer today for more details. It was very interesting that he said his one time in Israel he played against the head of Mossad. That was enlightening for me Even more interesting, he said that he took the one free day he had And he went to the whaling wall Have you ever been there? No

Why not? Why haven't I been to the whaling wall? You're Jewish, you're supposed to go? No, I'm German. Yeah, by way. You look like a skateboarder. You look like the guy that Connor McGregor was insulting for looking like a 40-year-old retired skateboarder

That means you can't pinpoint me I can No Guess my ethnicity I'll even, there's like 10% in there that I don't even know what it is. Well, I was just going to say white. You're asking me to guess what type of white?

Because you're clearly just white. But emanating from where? Give you a hint. I don't think I really had any family whatsoever in the tree here before the year in 1900 or maybe like 1890. In America? Yeah, in America. I'm a swan of immigrants. I would have said Italian, but obviously that doesn't seem likely after that.

Well, you know, the Italian fan. The face didn't happen for sure, but I got the half Italian, half Irish. So I was right. Yeah. I was actually about to say Irish after that guess. Yeah, I got the Irish looks. Yeah, so what do you mean I can't pinpoint you? I just did it perfectly.

Yeah, but you didn't before. I had to give you a bunch of hints. A bunch of hints like what? A bunch of hints that actually made you... Hints that you shouldn't have to give someone who has a 400... I didn't ask you for any hints. You started confusing me. Yeah, but I felt bad for you because you were way off.

I was way off. You said Italian. No, that was before. What did I say before? Before white? Before that even. And what did I say then? Skateboarder.

You look like one. I didn't say you were one. I said you look like the guy that Connor McGregory insulted. Which guy was that? He's insulted a lot of guys. Look up 40-year-old retired skateboarder. 40-year-old retired skateboard.

Is this Tony Hawk? No. No. You know Tony Hawk, right? Yeah, I met him. How's he? He's a nice guy. Yeah.

This guy? Doesn't you, don't you look kind of like him? Yeah, I could see it. That's the first. I don't know who it is. But yeah, I can see that for sure. I believe that's your eye of favor. Yeah, I like fitted hats.

The UFC legends. That's the difference. Unless I'm wearing a forward. If I'm wearing a forward hat, I won't wear a fitted sometimes. I like fitted hats. Yeah. Yeah, but you know that you look exactly like him, right? I think I look similar.

Yeah, I think that's a good thing. You look a lot more like him than I look like Epstein. I don't know about that. I don't even think I look like Epstein. You never thought it even so when you were talking to Palm Beach. I want to do like a Jewish trick in Sartier saying, anti-Semitic, anti-Semitic. I'm being attacked on the train, police, police.

Who is this guy? He's a UFC. I know if he was a champ. I think he might have been a champ. Right. So you really think Palm Beach Pete is Epstein? Yeah, I think so. I think it's likely.

It's a great trick he's doing. How are the teeth looking with him? Oh, I thought you said I had something on my mouth. No, no, you're good. You're clean. You got a lot of Lysol. You're clean. But like his, you ever seen people break down like his teeth and Epstein's

teeth. Yeah, I don't really think that means anything. I did see a video where they say they look similar, but to me that's almost irrelevant because an operation that big where Epstein is coming back is like a planted meme, you'd think that he would consider making the teeth look different if he thought that was an important factor. All right. So this is just me. But like if I went, let's say, I were Jeffrey Epstein back in the year 2019 and I had to go get like a face transplant that, you know, then we're going to fake my death and all that. I would definitely, not that I know how face transplant, surgery's work or anything? I don't think that's a thing. But like I hear it's a thing with the elites and you never know these days. But if I were going to do that.

Schizophrenic so you believe anything you hear from like the crazy idiots you have on your show. A face transplant? Hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. What are you an idiot? Because you think Palm Beach Pete is Epstein which would require him to have had a face transplant. So I'm just playing with your hypothetical. It's not the same face. What are you an idiot? Why are you talking? No. Can we pull a bomb beach implant to implant what the same face? What are you talking about? That's my point. I would have gone there and said, make me Asian.

Make me something totally fucking different. Yeah, well, that doesn't. I don't think a face transplant exists. You would have said, hey, insert me into a video game. You never seen the movie face off? That was back in like 1996. Dude, they look exactly the same. Why do you mean a face transplant?

They're not, they're similar. They're not the same. They're identical. They're not identical. Dude, that's just him when he's older. What's that photo from a Vepstein? Like, that's an older photo of him when it, and when they claim he died,

the latest it could even be from is like 2019. That looks exactly like that guy, but like years older, which is exactly the truth. Have you ever seen Jeffrey Epstein's gums and teeth? No. I wouldn't recommend it, but they're way different than that from the top side.

Yeah, can we do Jeffrey Epstein smiling? Also, the way that the eyes sit, way softer on Palm BeachP. He's older. No, that's a, no, that's a, that's a mean. That's a meme. Those are mean. type in Epstein

Trump 1992 Did you ever meet Donald Back in the day with Jeff? You never did? Back in the day? Even if I was related to Epstein Like your joke is implying

How old do you think I am? I'm 19 years old. Yeah. On the video, you can see him smile. His teeth are very small, and he's got, like, big gums. Unlike a face transplant, teeth and reconstruction surgery on that actually exists. But it's very difficult. And that's the truth, by the way.

That's not just some crazy shit you heard from a schizophrenic guest you had on that thinks they're either being gangstocked because they were in the FBI, which they weren't. Who was that? I don't know. Probably like half of your guests. Half of my guests. They thought they were in the FBI. Yeah.

And they think now they're being gangstocked. I don't think I've ever had anyone actually like accused out of happening. That's a first. You're the first guest to bring that up. What is gangstalking? What is? What is? That's just the production notes.

It's like, do you have coffee? Do you have water? I didn't put Lysol on there. You had to write that on a notepad to get you coffee and water? Yeah. It's like a little checklist just to make sure we got everything. Are the cameras turned on? Are they in right focus?

No, they're not. All right. Danny, we're going to have to go. I have to go fix that because now he took out to make that like F6 or something. That's like a little close for people. Don't implant your bugs in there. Is he really going to turn this off? Like I'm waiting for it to go black because he just did something to it.

What's crazy is you walk through the door and you were the nicest guy and then you said, can I go take a shit and five minutes later you walk out with Lysol with this like Kim Jong-un look thing? No, I was just peeing. But then I looked in, I was like, these guys, all these items that I would like to. That's right. So if something happens, someone can spray it without being embarrassed. And now they can.

If one of your guys takes his shit and it like goes upper decker and all that, they got nothing to clean it up with, thanks to you. I much prefer they shit all over your bathroom. You think I prefer they make your bathroom smell good? If I could convince them to do it, which I probably could. And you just gave me a great idea. I thought you were a nice guy. You should apologize to the next guest show.

I hope I do. No, because I'll clean it up before they come. I'm going to have them shit on the floor in the bathroom. That's actually a great prank idea. So like, did you just sit in your house one day and look for fashion influence and like pull up a bunch of pictures and land on Kim Jong-un and say, you know what? Maybe not the hairstyle, but that's the look. No, you know, I just, I had this suit. And, you know, I grew up in the projects.

You grew up in the projects. I don't even know what the projects are. So I can't really continue that. Okay. So that was a lie. Yeah. Yeah. That line of lying isn't going to get very far

Because I don't even know where the projects are located Or if the projects are just an idea of a poor place Which is that what it is? No, they're like a real place You look like you definitely don't know what the projects are I did not grow up in the projects So no, I do not know what that is first hand I think you're better than me because I didn't grow up

Or what am I talking about? I don't think I'm better than you Yeah, you do No, I don't I invited you here After you asked to come on I already got rid of that coffee That's a wasted one

Yeah, it's already done. It's already, it already has the license on it. It's hidden away. I put it in the compartment so you can't get it. Am I getting close? You're getting a little too close to the board. And if you wet it, you got to buy it. One board the roadcaster?

Yeah. I don't think that's how roadcaster's worth. That's a pretty penny. They're like 400 bucks, no? I don't remember what it is, actually. We bought everything all at once last summer, me and thief. You took out a loan? No, but they actually

They ID'd me at B&H They pulled security in They're like, there's no way This fucking guy is buying all this equipment You bought it at B&H? Yeah You're a fool Why am I a fool?

You should have bought it from Amazon And then bought a bunch of broken ones Or just found broken ones And then returned them to Amazon No That's what I did That's what you did How do you think my production quality

Got so much better in the last two years Because I stole from Amazon That's the whole point You should see how it was at the beginning The camera's barely even You didn't know how to focus. They were like 360 at the beginning. Yeah.

Now they're 1080. That's good. Now they're 1080 at least. But don't go too far because that's like the schick. The stick is like it's like far away. Well, I'm not playing a character or doing a schick. So whatever you're not playing a character. You think I'm playing a character?

I think you're playing a character. No. I hope you're playing one or you're fucked. Why am I fucked? I'll leave it at that. You can't just say something like that and leave it at that. If you're going to insult you. I can.

It's intriguing. If he asks you the. The insult is like so obvious to understand that it's like me continuing forward just makes it less funny. That's why. Did I have to explain that to you? Was that funny? I'll punish your guy over there. With what?

Lysaw? No, he was dirty. He needed it. What are you going to... Insulting you on a show that gets at least 100 viewers? At least 100, yeah. Yeah. What are you going to do with that plunger?

I literally just had to use that the other day. That's not a plunger. That is a plunger. That's something on the floor I found in the bathroom next to the toilet. I'll tell you what. Why don't you check out the bottom of that right there? I'm not going to touch the bottom. Do you think I touched the bottom when I brought it here?

I think you might have. No. I like that shitting on the floor idea when I go on somebody's show, though. That was great. Do I have to credit you for that? No, you can credit the Mossad. That's what they do. You're the Mossad?

I'm not the Mossad. But you're the guy who always is interviewing like the crazy schizophrenic people. Like who? I don't know. Can we pull up your guests? I don't know. You get guests from me, so. I get guests from you.

What does that mean? It means people are on my show and then somehow they show up on the Ton's show. You're saying you book me guests? I'm saying, you know, you're looking at the guest list and you're booking them. I'm not booking them for you. We never talked about booking you a guest. So what even are you implying? Did I see guests on your show?

I'm just implying that maybe some of the same like people that you're implying are schizo. You actually then selfishly bring on your show and claim they're not schizzo. No, no, I'll bring them on my show and then think they're schizzo and then make them real crazy. Make them real crazy. You're interacting with them like they're normal. They are normal because they're not schizzo. Anyways, let's move on. You want to move on?

Yeah, we're just talking about nonsense. What are you moving on to fucking shampoo now? Is that, yeah. Yeah, that's a purple heart. That was given to me by a World War II veteran. What? He's dead now. You just sprayed on it.

Where's the purple heart? Right there. Is it purple because it's not working anymore? his heart? No, he earned it in Germany actually. Fighting the Germans? That's right. Well, fuck him then. Maybe that's a little far.

I was going to say, he's dead. Are you joking, though? I feel like you're kidding. I'm not kidding. Oh, really? He died? Fighting the Germans? No, he died earlier this year. At age 101, I think. Why would he give you his purple heart? It's not the actual one.

Okay, well, now I don't care anymore. It's it. Give you a replica? You have like a fake gold? piece of shit right there. It smells good now. I have also things from people who died. Like what? Just like couches that they left outside their house?

Did they leave them there? Is that where they lived? They have no use for them. And when you leave a couch outside your house, the general idea is that somebody can come take it. Did they die on the couch outside of house? How would I know that? What are you talking about? I don't know. How would I know something like that? If it's a friend, that happens

sometimes, you know? If it was a friend, I wouldn't have to get the couch from outside of that. house. I'd go in the house and take what's mine. So you look for couches on the street. Sometimes I'll come by them and if the couch looks nice and doesn't have that many bugs on it, I'll take it. Right. But what makes a couch look nice on the street? If it looks like I could maybe resell it.

Resell it. Maybe there's a funny lamp on Amazon. On Amazon. Yes. Don't you have to pass certain standards there with like couches to actually be able to sell it? I feel like they don't want musty like street couches. No. I'll get you some bad reviews. Okay, so what?

I saw a video where this guy explains. He goes on Amazon. He sells somebody a camera. He doesn't have the camera. He then messages the guy who paid $6,000 for a camera. He says, the camera has been delayed. Sorry about that. You can either cancel the order

or I'll give you a $500 gift card while we wait. He then gives him a $500 gift card. He delays it again past $60. days he gets the money into his account. He's in a different country. He shuts the account down. That's what you're trying to do. That's what you're trying to do. And the only guy who loses money is Amazon because the guy will get his money back from Amazon. So that guy just effectively stole six grand from Amazon,

five and a half really. And actually six grand for... Did you hear what I just described? It's beyond morally okay. It's like dancing great. I don't even know how... Dancing great. Yeah, it's amazing. It's exciting. Yeah. Imagine the rush you have after just fleecing Amazon for six grand. It's like you took it right out of Jeff Bezos' mouth. Yeah, and he doesn't need it. He doesn't need it. You're right.

Yeah. But he does need cranes to get furniture into his house. I don't think he's getting the street couches though. Exactly. Yeah. Well, that's just because he has so much money that he now, oh wow, look what happened to his shirt. Yeah. You ruined it. It literally has shit stains on it. Yeah, pull that in. This was a black shirt. Yeah, can you get that? You sprayed lights. on it and now it has shit stains on it like he pooped himself.

Can you like zoom in to that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna have to fix all. We'll figure it out. I'll go do that.

I'll do that. I feel bad now. I didn't mean to ruin your shirt. No, it's okay. It's fine. But now he- Dirty black shirts. So now he can get paid for being here today.

Look at that. You're gonna buy him a new one? No, you just said you are. So you're getting paid. Did that really stain it like that? Yes. That's how that works? Yes.

It's all-purpose cleaner and sometimes the cleaner goes the other way. It's like a, you know. Yeah. When it comes to cleaning, it's bisexual. You should shit himself away from me. Yeah, I just shit myself on my arm, you know? That's right. Yeah, you're an idiot.

He's actually the editor. How do you even manage to do that? You weird old? Yo, I don't know. I surprise myself. You're the editor who does other stuff besides editing but only gets paid for editing. Sounds like a pretty bad job. I give him a lot of raises.

How much do you pay him for editing? Don't worry about it. I'm worried about it. I'm actually very concerned. A lot of money. You're getting a new shirt. Yeah. Yeah, he's not missing.

You're only getting a new shirt because I ruined yours. Does he look like he's missing any meals? No. That's right. You see how fucking many fat homeless people there are? Well, you got a really skinny crackhead homeless guy out there. Yeah, they're skinny ones too, but I don't think they're concerned with homeless people is food. That's why whenever they ask for money for food, they're either lying and they

wanted for drugs or I just don't care because we just don't care. You just walk right by you could go to 7-11 right now and get two donuts for $2 and a big gulp for $59. Right. So do you go winning? What is that like 900 calories for $2.50? That's right. Okay. And then realistically you could just keep refilling the big gulp.

That's right. We're the first society as far as I know, maybe someone out there can correct me in human history where we have a problem with obesity in like the less money you have. Yeah. Kind of crazy. You think that's the plan?

But you were saying that is to represent that you pay him enough and now you've proven that you don't. But I know he eats premium foods. Where's the most expensive food? It's like that healthy bullshit from heroin. Right. And that's what he eats a lot. Clearly he's not eating that. Clearly he's eating the cheap shit from McDonald's.

No, he's got a big appetite, you know? You're just eating a ton of healthy food? Yeah. You have enough of those protein bars, bro. you can be shitting for days and, you know, it still stays in your system. Doesn't look like he's eating protein bars. Listen, he can throw around some weight. What did you buy him?

Why did you bring him? Dunkin' Donuts? No, that's just coffee. There was no food product there. I'm sure. Yeah, look, it's coffee that now has Lysol in it, thanks to you. Anyways, we'll move on. I don't want to, I don't like doing fat shaming on your producer.

We'll move on. That's okay. I feel bad. I don't know him well enough to do this. And you're in a position. power over him and it's uncomfortable. You knew him well enough to spray him with Lysol. Yes, sir.

Well, I didn't know he was going to ruin his shirt. And by the way, it's even more uncomfortable because you're in a position of power over him. His entire livelihood depends on you. Is he going to confront you? He's going to tell you after the show. Like, hey, man, I didn't really like that you made fact jokes about me on that show he did. No, he's going to pretend it's funny. He can totally do that.

Nah, then he's a sweet. He can take it. Yeah, no, this is great. That's right. I feel so bad for this. He's, he has produced two podcasts as a fill-in. Stu Finer and you. You better start eating better, though, or you're gonna have a purple heart.

I got it. I would be honored. I would be honored to have a purple heart, you know. Yeah? You're on the way there. You'll be there soon. You'll be honored soon. So like that, it could sit on Julian's desk and, you know,

you can just like spray the liquid onto my purple heart. There'll be so many people honoring you. Yeah, I'm sure they will be. I hope so. I hope so. It's like, oh, that's that idiot that wanted the Purple Heart. I'm not even gonna pay my respects. It's a good way to go out. No, it's not. It's maybe the worst way to go out.

Why is it the worst way? Just a fat piece of shit dying of heart problems. It's the worst, most egregious way to go out ever. Completely pathetic. When did you know you were funny? I don't believe I'm that funny. I'm not laughing at anything. Well, is that an insult?

No. You're saying I'm funny or you're laughing at me or with me? I'm not laughing at you. I'm not laughing at you. But I'm not laughing. That's it. By the way, it's a sign of intelligence. Yeah, well, I know, but I'm not laughing.

So you're not really laughing with me, right? Yeah, I'm laughing with the actions that you're taking. I'm not laughing at you for existing. That kind of means laughing at, yeah. No. But you're laughing at him. Laughing at someone is laughing at them for existing in a way that they don't intend to exist. You're explaining it bad, but I get the general idea.

So whatever. I'm not going to pretend that you're explaining it so bad to the point I don't understand. Whatever I get it. You're not laughing at me. You're laughing at my mad at me, but in a different way, whatever. Right. Okay. So you don't think you're funny.

I'm a, I just don't view it that way. It's just not my concern. Was your dream to be a content creator making people laugh? No. It just got to happen. I mean, if you look at where I started. Hong Kong. Well, that's true, but there was a big break after that, and that certainly wasn't...

Do you actually know Bill Clinton? Do I know him? No, I've never met him, actually. Then why'd you call him as rabbi in front of the international audience? I've done that, going over that too many times to do it again, but... I'm saying, I mentioned... I was referencing that one. I said where it started, but you're right to correct me. You have it also written on... On a mug, yeah.

...on a mug, yeah. Why? I always write something on the mug before someone comes here. whatever comes to mine. Huh? You erase it? Yeah, it comes right off. Don't even need Lysaw.

It's right in the sink. Kind of like how they're trying to erase all of his good deeds from the history books. So you think Jeffrey Epstein did good deeds? Yes, you do. What made him good? How many people... He's covered in his mouth. He had trouble not laughing at that.

No, I swear, I'm just scratching my face. I'm not laughing at all. You get a little Lysol on your face? No, buddy. It's a little stuffy now in this room. A little stuffy in this room. How many people went to his island. I don't know how it's stuffy.

Huh? The AC's on 65. I don't know how it's stuffy. Because I just sprayed cleaner all over the room. Well, you sprayed cleaner all over the room and maybe you're also dressed like you're going to fucking invade a country that has a temperature at zero.

I would be interested in invading a country if I had the prospect to do it especially if the guys were idiots and didn't know how to defend themselves. How can you get mad at somebody for invading somebody else? What's a good recent invasion that happened? Let's start there.

That's actually a good point. I mean, have there been that many recent? I mean, there's been a few. I can only think of like two sort of. One of them is not really an invasion. It's kind of just like a mass killing. Yeah, where it started with an invading. It's not really that recent, though.

I guess it depends what you mean. It's pretty recent. I'm talking the last five, six, seven years. Been a couple big ones. I'm talking about Israel. Yeah, I know. They haven't really been invading them recently. They've just been killing all of the Palestinians.

Right. Yeah, they already took over the land like 80 years ago. I guess the most recent thing that I'd call strictly an invasion would be kind of the Ukraine one Yeah, that's the other one That's still happening Yeah, but nobody hears about it anymore

We've moved on We've moved on People are dying Their families can't move on I don't want to hear about it anymore I don't you want to hear about it I'm bored, I'm bored I want to move on

You're bored of people dying On the streets Too many of the same people die You want to move on You want somebody else You want some other type of people to die What types of people to die Not Ukrainians because we already

Yeah, but they're still dying. You can't just move on mentally and they stop dying. They're still dying. I've moved on mentally. You've moved on mentally. Yeah. I don't even think about it. You don't think about them at all.

Nope. It's below your bar. I thought about them. And then I was like, oh, is this going to end soon? Then I was like, holy shit, this isn't ending soon. And then Trump said he was going to end it in one day. And then it didn't end. No, and then it ended.

It didn't end. Yes, it did. Can we pull up casualties in the Ukraine-Russia war over the past? I don't know. two, three months, something like that, Danny. It's very much still happening. People are dying. No, Trump ended the war.

He did not end the war. He ended it what? On January, probably 8th, 2025? January. No, no, no. He wasn't in office yet? That's bullshit. Wasn't that when he got a...

No. What was it? He got in office. It was like the 20th or 21st, one of those. So then he ended on that day. So he ended it, it just went away. Because he walked into office. But they didn't even fight with Zelensky yet in the Oval Office at that point.

He's reading an article right now. Yeah, that's what we do here. We got to make sure we have a good source. So just go back to Google, Danny, and type in to Google AI. How many casualties have happened in Ukraine in the last three months? Can you ask BD to ask Grock? Ask BD to ask Grock. Have the PBD podcast had in the last six months?

How many what? Casualties have the PBD podcast. They've had at least one. Yeah. And I think that happened a couple times, so too. how many casualties have been in the Ukraine war in the past three months an estimated 100,000 to 110,000 total casualties, which is not just killed, it's also injured and stuff like that. But to you, this doesn't exist.

It's not really, like, you just moved on. Yeah, but Russian military casualties that says there's 100,000 of it. Yeah. Can't really call. Still people dying. Civilian, 8,000. 5,000 or 8? 5,000 verified.

Yeah. Yeah. It's the war. More has been going on for so long that if I was to still be like, yeah, I want to get riled up about it. Those numbers would have to be switched. Have you thought about going over there to fight? To fight for who? I don't know.

Pick a side. Just fight for something I don't even give a shit about and die. Maybe not die if you're a good fighter. So my legacy can be giving an idiot like you a little fake metal to honor me? Well, he was alive when he gave it to me. He lived. Oh, okay. Yeah.

So my legacy won't even get that far. No. Well, if you die. I'll be a complete idiot on the internet for like three weeks until people forget about me. There'll be like an article. This dumb-ass podcaster went to Russia and died fighting and did nothing. He affected nothing. Wouldn't affect anything?

I feel like that might make a little ripple. You'd make a ripple among what? I don't know, the butterfly effect of life? No, I don't think so. I don't think I'll have that... No. You don't think Putin would be moved that Matan, the podcaster died? I don't think he'd even hear about it.

I think he'd hear about it He may hear about it And if he does He'll probably just laugh And be like What an idiot Yeah What a waste of his life

He might do that That would be all You might be right about that Yeah But you just forgot it Even though the war Still happen And you just

Are you constantly thinking about Like wars That have been going on For half a decade now? Yeah All right Well I'll admit I do

I don't And not because I don't Care about civilians dying Obviously I do You don't care You move on I believe your exact words where I stopped caring.

I stop, like I check out, I mean, you know what I mean? You check out. I'm still sad. I guess the civilians are dying, but I'm going to be concerned every second. I'll be crazy all day, all time. Yeah, every second's excessive. Yeah, I agree with that. Somebody's dying every second.

Yeah. Do you use substances to help you check out or do you just? No, I've actually never been intoxicated. Never. I'm not joking. You never had any alcohol? Never had any alcohol. What made you not do that?

Okay, well, for one, I'm 19. I mean, that never stopped anyone before. Yeah, well, I was going to say, I guess that's a contributing factor because it's not like, it's a little harder to get it like 13 than it is at 18. What's the drinking age in Israel? Can we check that out? It's probably like seven. Seven for Arabs, 21 for Jews.

Now it's actually 18. Across the board? Across the board, it looks like. Shocker. Yeah. So you're of age there? So when you go visit HQ, you don't tie one back? I think it would be a more grueling process to go fly to Israel to have a beer

than I could just probably steal one from your fridge right now. Yeah, but when they call you back for like a meeting or, you know, like to go through intelligence and stuff. Like you already got to be there. Went in Rome or Tel Aviv. Right. We're doing the stupid. Oh, whatever. You think it's stupid.

Stupid enough to throw the, it's that conditioner. You tell me. I don't know. Yeah, it is conditioner. No, but no, I've never been intoxicated. Did you use this? It's got, oh, no, that's Lysol. I'm very, uh, very anti-weed. Very, what made you anti-weed?

Then it makes all these people bums. I'm pro other people smoking weed. Why other people, but not you? Because I don't want to be a senseless bum. Right. So why are you okay with other people doing that if they become senseless bums? Because it makes it easier to manipulate them. Also, can you stop ripping apart my microphone? No, I cannot.

Why? Because it's fun and I've had to start asking the question. Yeah. Oh, that's what happens. We flip it around on you. Or you just weren't prepared. Listen, there's no way to prepare for you. It's just not, you know, it's a hurricane.

I mean, your hair looks like a hurricane. You're on brand the whole way. Yeah I'm kind of using it like a What kind of autism is this? No, I'm not autistic That's actually a big insult I think those people are either dumb

Or evil You think audits are dumb? You think Elon Musk is dumb? In some ways definitely yes Maybe like socially But like IQ-wise I feel like he's kind of I mean but like socially

He has the social intelligence of maybe a slightly dumb African gray parrot African gray parrot You know what from a social intelligence standpoint You might be cooking there Okay so that's my point

So whenever people ask me Because they always say they think like I'm autistic or whatever That actually is where I get offended You get offended by that I don't like that yeah It's a pretty big compliment Then I'm autistic? Yeah

What? Sign a high intelligence Maybe that gray parrot for like social intelligence, but you seem to be doing okay. I don't know if autistic people on average are higher intelligence. Depends on where they are on the spectrum. Jamie, can you look that up? Jamie. Jamie.

His name's Danny. Yeah. And actually, if you listen. Are autistic people smarter? Yes, you're going to look that up. Are autistic people smarter and what's their fascination? with ripping apart small bugs when they are children. Right.

Ripping apart small bugs. Yes. You ripped apart my microphone. Yeah, but this isn't a living being. What if it is? And we just haven't gotten to higher power consciousness yet. Okay, well, then that wouldn't reflect anything on me because I didn't know it, you dumb idiot.

You didn't know it at the time. Fucking moron. Autism does not dictate a person's intelligence, autistic people display the full spectrum of cognitive. That's right. So it depends where I said. It depends where you are on the spectrum. All right. What's the part about the small bugs? Go down? Yeah, sure. Okay. This is the end of the page.

The behavior is not meant to be malicious or cruel for many is simply a hyper-focused method of exploring. It's definitely meant to be malicious and cruel. You think so? Look how powerful I am. Look at all the organs and this small worm and this rat that I ripped apart. Maybe. I'm by the way, a four-year-old. I should be sent to a... a room for the rest of my life. Have you ever killed something living? You're small bugs when I was a kid. I used to rip them apart.

And I used to show them to people. I'd say, look how powerful I am. Right. This is the sign of a normal person, not an up-and-coming serial killer and rapist. Right. I wasn't accusing you with that, though. I'm accusing that of the people who do this to bugs.

But you just said you did that. Well, that was a joke. You're fucking idiot. Maybe you're artistic or something. Might have been nicked. You never know. I feel like a lot of us get nicked these days. days. What do you read?

Artistic individuals can enter a state of deep focus when studying intricate small-scale details. You see, that's exactly what I mean. They're trying to like figure out why the bug is like that. Right. Why do we need to know that? We already know. They need to know that. Because if you know what small life looks like, maybe it can affect large life in the future.

I don't know. I didn't rip apart bugs when I was a kid. Go look. I don't know if I don't know if you can find it. I don't know what the year was, but if there's like videos of Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson, et cetera, et cetera, like talking, I'm sure you would not come to the conclusion that they weren't autistic. That wouldn't be an out, though, to do what they did. That's not killing a small bug.

That's why I'm saying autistic people are evil. You think it stops? You think they're evil? You think it stops at small bugs? Did you not get where I was going with that? I mean, I see where you're going now, but that's like a really dark thought, Matan. What do you think is like the common? association with people who kill animals when they're young.

It's obviously that they're much more likely to become serial killers. And if even Google will try to make it sound all nice and say that autistic people are hyper-focused and want to kill small bugs and reap them apart, then there you go. Have you ever talked with a serial killer? Probably not that I would know of, right? Right. Well, I don't know if you like visit a prison and do the whole psychological thing. I feel like you'd be into that.

No, that seems like a waste of time. I don't think we should do prison systems. I think if somebody gets a long enough sentence, regardless of what they did, we should just kill them and save some money and not do it in a way that's nice. Not doing it in a way that's nice. Way that's nice.

Way too much money to do the electric chair. Right. I think we should just hang them. Just quick little. Yeah. Or just like hire one really, really strong fighter who can just snap them. Like that.

Yeah. Like a little, like a walnut. That would cost, you know, it would cost some money. It would cost some money, It would be probably less money to pay that guy per year than it would do one electric chair. Yeah. What is he doing now? Where are you going?

That's my secret to know and you to not find out. He's just here to keep you off balance. That's what he's here to do, you know? Okay. Are you comfortable? I am completely comfortable. I'm dominating you in your own home. Good.

That's fine. That's what I brought you here to do. Maybe I'm into that. That sounds a little gay. I just want to clarify. That's all right. Hard pause. When did you find out you were gay?

Oh, me. Huh? No, I'm not. You're not. No. So you do like women? Yeah. I wouldn't have peg that for you.

You think I would be gay? Yeah, I kind of thought so. Interesting. After all the horrid things I said, I guess that does coincide with gay, sort of. Sometimes. Depends. It depends. I've seen projection before.

I've seen projection before for sure. You're not projecting and I like to kill bugs. But I didn't say you were trans. Yeah, that's kind of, I think that's different. Trends? Yeah. Interesting. What else?

What are some other topics? I feel like we've ran our thing with me saying really despicable things about autistic people. Yeah, that, you know, we kind of got that. And I'm not even joking, by the way. What I'm saying is like probably actually just objectively true. Artistic people like killing small animals when they're young. That's a trait that everybody knows coincides with killing people. go look at a video of the serial killers.

They're clearly socially impaired. Does that mean they're autistic or are you just assuming that? I mean it's pretty obvious. It's pretty obvious. It's pretty obvious. What if it's another type of disorder that just shows itself in similar manifestations? I'm going to need those later, by the way. So, well, it's not.

Well, then you'll have to pay your, you'll have to send. Did I what? Okay. Yeah. I'm just got to make sure. Can I bend it? No, no, don't do that. Don't do that.

I actually need that. I really need that. Not bendable. Yeah, it's not bendable. Well, it is. You're just not strong. You don't really need it, right? You don't really hit the gym much.

You could just buy another sure mic, steal those pieces and return it, and they would never know. Yeah, they would never know, but like that mic is special to me. Yeah? A lot has happened on that mic. You don't ever switch your mic? Not that one. Okay. This one's been switched a couple times because, you know, I'm a little clumsy, but the guests are always better until you.

It's the first time something like this happened? It's the first time something like this happened. All the Italian gangsters who pretend that they're not gangsters anymore. They're very respectful. And also pretend that they're way, way cooler and more dangerous than they are, don't usually rip apart your mic. Most of them that come on podcasts are that way. You're right. Yeah.

There's a lot of like fake lore for sure. Yes. Because most of them are rats. I've had one guy that was not a rat. So then how did he do your show? Because he did his time and he left. Interesting. Did you pay him?

No, I've never paid a guest in my life. Interesting. And I've never accepted money for someone to come on either. Oh, people try to pay you to come on? I've had people off. I will not do that. It has to work both ways. I don't really get that offer on my show.

I think that it makes more sense for people to try to pay to get on yours. Because I feel like your audience is the type of people looking for answers to questions that don't exist. And those are- Questions that don't exist. Well, clearly someone's asking them. No, no. They're even looking for questions sometimes. They're just looking for something.

They're bored and they're on welfare and they need something to think about. So they listen to Julian Dory podcast. Yep. You did some audience reconnaissance on May before you came here? I'm just guessing based off your show and based off your way of speaking and, you know. My way of speaking. Yeah. So you think I'm retarded.

You could say that. what led you to think I'm retarded? Your way of speaking. Just that. Nothing else. Those glasses contributed to it. It's like a douchebag. You're not realizing it was a black glass.

I didn't put them on until you sprayed Lysol on my table. Then I put them on. I know that you did that on purpose. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, exactly. Even more of a douchebag. You threw me off balance. And you got back on balance by seeing a little worse.

I have to rebalance it. You're just coping. You're trying to make it seem like you're in control of. the situation, but you're not. I'm not in control of the situation. You've been in control since you got here. Then don't pretend that those glasses have changed anything. They've only changed the dynamic of you not understanding where I stand.

Now, see, we've got to find that later. I'm going to need that. Tell me which hand it's in. Your right hand. All right, I heard where that goes. I have an idea. We'll be able to get it. I'll make this one much harder.

I saw where that landed. That's all right. That's going to be difficult to get that'll be good. That one. That was a good one. That was a good play on my end. I'm going to have to stand on the table to get that one. That was a good play.

That was a good play. I'll give you that's a hard. I didn't see that in you. Yeah. Anyways. I didn't see that kind of strength in you. Any other topics? Yeah. I also thought you were going to be way shorter.

I'll give you that. Really? People say that to me all the time. I thought you were five foot three. Yeah. No, I'm like five foot, maybe like nine almost. 10, maybe. made close to 11. No, no, no. Now you just want to be taller than you are. Maybe I'm like five,

eight and a half, five nine. I'm not that tall. I'm not. Am I taller than you? I don't know. No. No, I'm not. No, I don't remember standing next to you. No, I did, I did say next to you. And we were the same height? I bent over a little bit, a little bit. And you were like right there. Okay. So it felt like five, ten, five eleven. Uh, because you want to say you're six foot? No, I'm six foot one flat. No, I, I am. Okay. Whatever. Whatever. We have some, we have some Better topics and you're lying about your height because you feel emasculated. Yeah. Do you want more water?

Maybe in a bottle form. In a bottle form, why would you want to drink out of plastic just to give yourself cancer? That's correct. You've got to go someday. You're trying to get cancer. I'm not trying to avoid it. You're not trying to live forever. No.

You haven't had on Brian Johnson on your show? I think it's going to, and this sounds real mean, but I think it'll be really funny when he gets in a car crash one day and his entire head explodes. all for nothing What if they can bring him back by that point What if they probably could have brought him back If he was dying due to microplastics right Yeah And then it was all for nothing anyways

What does he do? Doesn't he drink his son's blood That part's a little weird He's kind of just like a freak show clown Tell us how you really feel about him I just said it I know But I do respect him

You respect him Yeah why do you respect him Because he's a crazy fool And those guys are used to very interesting and finally to talk to. So you respect them for the ideas that you could have them on your show and it would be good content. I'm just trying to not completely exit out the idea and possibility of him coming on my show. I think I just went too far with the head exploding.

That's all right. And I think I just wiped out a guess for myself. It's satire. I'll bet he'll come on after that. He'll see that clip. You think it'll help? I think it'll send him a message. Brian Johnson, you'll be dead soon.

Okay. What do you think? What did you think of his response to the Epstein files and being in them? Brian Johnson? Yeah. Was that true? Yeah. I actually think he's one of the people. It's, it really was innocent. I do believe that. Are you joking or you're serious? I'm dead serious. He was in the Epstein files? He was in one email where he was then agreed to meet on a Zoom with Jeffrey Epstein in 2017. Innocent. He did address it. He did address it. And I actually, actually believed him. Yeah. Yeah, can I see how he addressed it? Yeah, yeah. Let's pull it up. Go to Brian Johnson Epstein email. He was a little way too over-apologetic about it, like to the point of exaggeration.

He was in an Epstein email and he zoomed with him? Yeah, so new release. Why didn't he mention that before it got late? That's the one thing. I agree. That's a great question. And I know you were joking the whole time about me knowing Epstein, but I swear if I I wasn't joking about that. Well, then you're an idiot. Why am I an idiot?

You thought Palm Beach Pete was Epstein? I think that's He is Epstein. He's not Epstein. Okay. Well, if I had met Epstein, I would be bragging about it. You'd be bragging.

If I could confirm it was and not through Palm Beach Pete. Why would you be bragging about it? Because that's awesome. Why is it awesome? Anything to do with Epstein is awesome. He's a cultural icon. It's a cultural.

So you think he's a good guy. I see people in the streets wearing shirts of him, of his face. I mean, people wear shirts at Che Guevara. And to give context, they're wearing that because they're homeless and I gave it to them.

And I told them to put it on. they weren't just doing it but I'm starting the movement what was the island like I wish I had went truly you wish you had went to just see it it's like a historical place no hopefully not to be raped by a bunch of older guys

that sounds like the worst thing that could happen awful it just seems like me I don't know I would just want to see the island it's like when you go to see like that painting the Mona Lisa when you see the Coliseum he's like here's some stupid artistic bullshit that actually had no effect

and here's where all the powerful people gathered to secretly be pedophiles. I want to see what that looks like. So you think the Mona Lisa, hold on a second, you think the Mona Lisa and Coliseum are artistic bullshit that have no effect. The Coliseum was cool. They would have...

Yeah, they fight it out to the deck there. That's when we didn't have empathy as people for autistic people. These people who couldn't interact in society would give them a spear and we would tell them they have to rip off a bull's head. Right. Damn well that that is the opposite.

of what was going to happen. Well, I would like to have you on my show. All right, Brian. Mr. Johnson. Yes, Mr. Johnson. Sounds like a fake name. Well, if you call him Mr. Johnson the whole time, he'll do it. Will you call him Mr. Johnson all the time?

I probably would have done that if he had asked me not to. Right. What would your approach with him be? Would you open up with this? I didn't even know about this. This is like not particularly shocking, but it's interesting. How did he get his money, by the way, to start stealing his son's blood? What was it then?

It was like a payments company, or did I just make that up? Can we Google, how did Brian Johnson get rich? I will say, by the way, the idea of taking nutrients from your son. It's crazy. To give to yourself is pretty awesome. Oh, you think it's awesome. I mean, most people, they are all with these parents, you know, always say like, oh, you know, I love my kid more than anything. This guy is stealing from his kid to live longer.

and it probably won't even make him live any longer. It's just going to ruin his son's life because everybody's like, holy shit, are you the guy who was that dad who's stealing your blood? Well, it's not stealing if he agrees to it. Crazy family of nut-heads. Isn't he giving his blood to his own dad too? Or did I make that up?

Yeah. It's like the blood brother or bloodline or something like that. Yeah. All right, so Brian Johnson made the bulk of his fortune in 2013 by selling his fintech company Brain Tree to PayPal for $800 million. In cash. He did in cash. I didn't have that much money. Yeah, no, he's he's pretty loaded. He's pretty in cash. I feel like that's how you would want to do a deal in cash. That's how I would want to do a deal.

I mean, if I could get more money in a similar amount of period where like it's more when you account how you could have invested in with inflation, I would take not in cash. But I guess it's preferable to take it in cash if it's the same thing regardless. Yes. What would you do with $800 million? Well, $400 after taxes. I would probably buy an island. An island, where any place specifically? I would buy that island and then I would open it as like a tour, a museum. It already got bought though, and they actually are already turning it into a resort.

Did you hear about this? Could we Google Epstein Island being turned into a resort? I know. I know. They took your idea. Yeah. Was that your idea or Jeff's? You wanted to pass it down in the family?

It was Pete's. It was Pete's. So his name's Pete now. He's not Jeffrey Epstein. That's his nickname. That's his nickname. Okay, yeah. Jeffrey Epstein's former Caribbean properties, Little St. James and Great St. James were purchased in May 2023 for 60 milly. See, you could have done it. By billionaire Stephen Deckoff. Deckoff originally announced intentions to transform the locations into a luxury resort. Oh shit, look at this. No major construction or development has been reported, though. The islands currently remain in a state of limbo with no active resort or confirmed plans for the site.

Matan, you should go do, you should go break onto that island with Tyler Olivera and do one of your podcast without the tent just like right outside the temple. I think that would be awesome. I would immediately get arrested. I've seen the videos of the guy sneaking onto the island. They just get arrested or kicked off immediately. Not if you bring a lot of security. Can you imagine one of the worst, like, isn't it like next to all those islands with like those immigrants? Probably. I guess they're not immigrants of their own islands, but you know what I mean. I don't know what you mean. Certainly. I was just going with it.

Isn't it next to the islands with the people, they're like kind of animalistic? Oh, you went from immigrants to animalistic to their non-immigrants to their animalistic. You just made it more complicated than it is. That's right. I can't imagine a worse place to be in jail than there. So I'm not going to take that risk. I would tell you to go to a luxury resort, though. That would be fucking awesome.

Well, they're not, you know how. They're not building it. Yeah. Well, imagine if he built like a big resort all in the style of that house. in the house in New York or the temple house the temple house everybody gets a little everybody you can rent a little like that that would be so awesome I'm not even joking wouldn't you go there

no what no why I mean I've had someone sitting in that seat who was a victim on that island so I feel like the the spirits just in general even if I hadn't experienced that hearing that story firsthand would have been bad enough to me be like yeah I think I'll go to any other island of the world but that i want to go to that island that i want to go to that one in a house that looks like the place where the bad stuff probably happened but you know we don't know that we don't we don't know that we don't know exactly if it was on that house do we or is that confirmed well some of what may have happened in there is not confirmed but like that any bad

things happen in there some of that's confirmed yeah oh yeah it was on the house specifically yeah there were people assaulted in there yeah okay yeah you can do a podcast right outside of though with Brian Johnson and talk about if he knew him or not. I did not know him. I did not know. He's just not going to keep repeating himself because he's like probably severely autistic. Yeah. What about the, uh, the one in New York?

You ever been there? No, actually, I haven't. But I've heard of it. I can take you. Where is it? Is it in Manhattan? Yeah, it's on the 71st Street. What's, what's that close to relative?

Because I'm not good with like New York directions. Aren't you here all the time? I come here often, but I mean... You just don't look outside and what street you're on? Well, I usually, like, I was probably from where I'm saying like a 30 minute train right away, but I don't really, I just get on trains. Right. So if you get off.

Just directionlessly. And then I'll just get off. And if I'm in the wrong place, I'll do it. So I actually, this was like a three hour journey for me. No. If you get off at Penn Station, which is where Madison Square Garden is, and you're on roughly 30 second, 30th street, and you just walk up to 60th at the park, you make a right. You have to walk 30 streets?

Yeah, it's like 26th. They're half blocks that way. And then you make a right, go to the corner of the park, make your first left right there, and then walk down to where it says 71st, half blocks. Very easy. And how long is this walk from this Penn Station? Well, who's walking? Am I walking?

Sure. Okay, then it's a lot faster if you're with me. You're going to have trouble keeping up. But if you're walking with like Danny here or something like that, it might be... A couple day journey. No, 90 minutes. And with you? Probably about 55.

Why don't you just take a train that's closer to this place? Because it's a lot of work. you know i don't i don't like taking the train in new york city i like walking in new york city okay well now you're just an idiot i'm not an idiot it's good exercise good for long jump and a 90 minute walk well no it's like 55 with me it's really an hour 10 or 110 i'm under 10 i'm 10 you got to go back oh on the on the round trip yeah i didn't say we were walking back so what's the solution then i don't know maybe we'll teleport see now you have no answers and now You're just saying bullshit because you're an idiot.

No, you've been saying bullshit because you're an idiot all day. But I know that I'm saying bullshit. You're the one spraying Lysol. Well, that was calculated. It's calculated to make his shirt look like he shit himself. That wasn't calculated, but it came out pretty awesome. It did come out pretty awesome. I agree.

We may frame that shirt afterwards. Will you frame it? I'll frame it. Yeah. What's your opinion on the moon? You think we went? I think the moon is the same size as the sun and it's only 25 miles up. All right.

Hold on. What? That's what the guy on my show told me and he was, I believe him. It's only 25 miles up, but it's the same size as the sun. Which is also only 25 miles up. No, the sun's a lot farther than that. Oh, look at you. You were lecturing me about distracting you with Texan. Yeah, because you come off like a guy who would want to be perceived as respectful. I come off as a guy who'd want to be perceived as respectful.

I never thought of it that way. I'm clearly not that way. Right. So you're okay being a dick. I mean, I'm not trying to be an asshole. I mean, I see you're just obfuscating here because you're not answering my question. What's that? What was the question? I asked you if we went to the moon and you just told me something about the sun and the size and everything.

What's that Joe Rogan guess where they said if they got into it, they would be in danger? I think that's the position I'm in. I think that was Elon Musk that said that, right? No, no. It was like a, no, it was like a, I don't think it was even a particular. famous guy. Look it up. The guy who hacked,

who does the search engine shit on Google? I don't remember, but I remember seeing that clip all the time. Who told Joe Rogan... Is it true that like every time Joe Rogan has on like a crazy, like a type of schizophrenic guest? It like expands your potential ceiling

for how big your show can get? I think it depends on the guest. All right, so who told Joe Rogan he would be in danger if he continued? if he spoke about something publicly. I don't know. Let's see if that can. Let's see what Google AI can do.

Joe Rogan stunned as podcast guest refuses to answer a mushroom-related question. Paul Stamitz. Oh, Paul Stamets was. Yeah, let's hit it. He sells, he got famous from selling stamps. Did you know that? From selling stems? Stamps.

Stamps. Yeah. That a big stamp compe. Oh, Paul Stammats. Yeah, I see what you're doing. Okay. Joe Rogan was left stunned during an episode of the Joe Rogan experience when guest Paul Stamitz refused to answer a question claiming it could put his life in danger. All right, what was the question?

All right, let's go down. Let's go down. The question is, are you Paul Stampitz? During the conversation, Rogan asked Stamets, what are the benefits or the negative effects of this? Rogan appear visible. Yeah, go ahead. I was just trying to interrupt you and confuse you. Okay, a question that approved to reference Portobello Mushin. Now you're tripping up on your words.

Stamets, however. You're having a harder time. on saying this is an explosive area of conversation and puts my life in danger so I reserve the right not to answer a question. Rogan appeared visibly surprised by the statement responding, whoa, didn't expect that. It puts your life in danger talking about portobello mushrooms. Are you reading it now just to read it to prove you can read it because I said you were having a hard time reading it? I'm answering the context. Do you even know what you're the one trying to exactly?

I feel like the information is going not even into. one ear. It's just going into my fucking eyes and into my brain and I'm saying it to people. What the hell are you even talking about? Now we're just talking about nothing, about complete nothing. We're arguing about nothing. It's going into the people's ears. It's a complete argument on a price. It's like two birds yelling at each other. This is why we used to wear headphones. It sounds like this, you know. But yeah, no, you were right. His life was in danger over mushrooms. Pound it, baby. You do have a good, you got a good punch. I didn't expect that on you.

No, see, it's like the height thing. I didn't expect. that either but I'm saying even once I saw the actual height. I think I'm like I guess physically so unintimidating. Not that I'm particularly physically intimidating but you don't like wood very much do you? Wood? Yeah you got a problem with wood. Yeah it's not good for wood. Yeah it's not good for wood. I have a idea. The Lysol is not good for wood either. What about water and Lysol? It's I mean you're gonna have to fly that guy out from Florida's real soon again. Danny's a big fan of yours but I feel like he's not could be very happy to have to... Is Danny?

No, not that Danny. Danny Jones. Jamie. Go under the table. You can see it. Go under the table. That's like a weird Epstein trick. It's not a weird Epstein trick. I got pants on.

I'll stand up. I'm good. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That was real... All right here. Yo, keep your distance. You can go under the table and you'll see it. Do you think I'm going to go under the fucking table, you weird creep?

I told you to go under the table. Well, you have no pressure over anybody. Okay. Maybe if you really wore that retired skateboarder fighter. I would go under the table You don't want to fuck around and find out With you? I feel like you probably have guns

Strike me as a guy I wouldn't tell you if I did or I didn't Probably has a bunch of illegal shotguns I would definitely do it legally If I had them in here You would say that obviously On the podcast No no I would say that privately too

I would definitely do it legally Interesting Yes There's a process there But There's no reason to not do it legally. Do you own guns? Can I own guns? Is it 18? Do you own guns? Not can you? I was already given you credit for being able to. I get it. Um, no, I don't. Not yet. Okay. Do you plan to?

I'm sure at some point, right? Right. But I live in LA, so I'm, I think it's very strict there. I've heard that. I don't know the full process, but I've heard it's very strict. I'm not sure of the process either. Does your security have guns? Security? Yes. You saw me with security? Yeah. three guys out there. The stupid homeless crackhead. That's right. The cameraman that's following me around that I told not to sit in here. You told him not to sit in here. I told him he could sit in here. Well, I told him not to. Why'd you tell him not to? Because why would he sit in here? I don't know. He could add something to the audience. I have no idea. All right. Well, just to expedite the conversation, I don't have security. Have you thought about getting it? Uh, no, not really.

You got a big target on your back and a big head that's a big target. I actually, Uh, don't, I just don't go in public that often. So I'm not, I'm usually able to not have to be concerned with that. And when I do, I'll just put on a hat. You do, I was going to ask you that. So you do wear hats sometimes. In public? Yeah.

I mean, preferably, I feel like this is a pretty recognizable. Yeah. There's a fat, there's a hat that fits on that head. A beanie. Put all the hair down. Oh, so it comes all the, is it like in your face? No, it'll go to the back. I'll put a hoodie on.

and people usually don't uh sunglasses no i feel like that's too far now it's like kind of giving it away it's giving it away then you start looking suspicious you have a hat abe an sunglasses i mean that's what leonard decaprio does i don't think he looks suspicious but he's just doing that because he doesn't want the paparazzi to get good photos i think not to hide when he's like walking i mean he hides pretty well they don't get they get him but not much as you would think yeah i don't think he's paying him off to not get him all the time but no i don't know i don't think i would need security because even

when I walk around like this and I do get recognized a lot, it's usually good interactions, almost entirely good. I don't know if I've had a bad one. Right. Were you wearing sunglasses on 9-11? Sunglass. Why? What's the joke there?

It's not a joke. I just, I want to know where you were on 9-11. I was six years away from being born. That's what I would say too. I would lie about my birth year. I mean, but I wouldn't, though, because I would have liked to be around for 9-11. You would have liked to be around like to watch it What a thing to witness?

Like in a What's the context there? Good way, bad way I'm in New York Rooting against it To witness it in general Just to witness it I'm not gonna root for it to happen

Root for 9-11 to happen Good good Good Why would you say I think I would say that I don't know It seemed like you were going there No I would have just like to witness that

Just to like be able to take it in You don't think that every single person who was physically witnessing the plane flying to the buildings doesn't tell that to people all the time? There are people who refused to talk about it that did that, yeah. They refused to talk about it? They refused to talk about it. Why?

Because it was so traumatic for them. I'm not talking about people who saw like dead people, you know. Well, a lot of those people did see both. Yeah, well, that obviously would be traumatic. I'm saying like, let's say you were like, you know, five miles away, you just saw the plane go into the building. I'm sure they talk about that shit all the time. Right.

Let's say you were dancing. or something. I'm sure they knew it. You still haven't answered my question either about like the Kim Jong-un get up. Where'd this come from? Well, it's just the only suit I have. It's the only one you own. Yeah, and so why get another one? I kind of like that logic.

That is smart logic. Does it ever like smell because you wear it too many days in a row, especially in hot places? Yeah, but then nobody will want to steal it. Right, but people won't want to be around you. It's like, you know, some of those. Yeah, but that's, That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's not a you don't want people around you.

You like being alone. No, I'm not like particularly like that. It just sometimes if I, I guess it would be preferable depending on the day and the situation and what I'm doing. Uh-huh. I feel like I didn't even need to have to explain that, but you're so far behind. That I think I'm ahead. No, you're not even on that dumb level. I'm not on that dumb level.

I'm like below that. You're just far behind. Okay. Well, my bladder's behind. I gotta take a piss, so we're gonna take a break real quick. Are we done or what? No. We're gonna continue? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. I have a lot of questions for you. Alright. I don't know who sent you. Just a reminder, this is the bathroom break part. It's about two or three minutes and I'm leaving it in because it was really funny.

All right, we'll be right back. Good job so far. Good so far, you're having fun? Yeah, just ready. Don't break. Fucking water. Don't leave the room. Me or? Just watch him. Okay, you got it. So who's the craziest guy you've ever met?

Hold on, I'm gonna leave the room. Oh, hold on, you shouldn't leave the room. I'm gonna leave the room. Okay, that's fine, you know what? Let's leave the room together. You know what I mean? I think that would be great. No, not for the regular water for you? No, no, it's the regular? You see those cups that are nasty.

Oh, I see. So you're gonna drink straight from that? Yes. Okay. I could get you a better cup. Would you like a better glass? No, no, he's gonna work fine. will work fine. This will work fine. Oh goodness. There you go. Would you like a chair for that? No. No. Maybe can you grab those napkins? Knapkins? Yes, sir. And then maybe wipe this up on it so I don't destroy his a ball. Yeah, yeah. That's not let's try not to let's mitigate some of the damage, you know.

Oh, it says Israel on here. This is Israel. That's one of those Israeli, Israel gloves. All right. There you go, sir. What are you wipe it down? The water that he used in the... I just want to go one more. He grabbed some sparkling water from your fridge. You weren't planning on drinking it. Yeah, it's alright. That wasn't, that water wasn't for me.

Okay. Everything's still on, right? Yep. Yep. Let's run it. Now you're still on my globe and my sparkling water that isn't mine? I think that's cool? I was gonna keep texting.

You said there was a break period. Yeah, well, the break's over. I'm talking into the mic. You're supposed to be a professional. You know what this is. Say again? You stole my globe. You stole the sparkling water that's not mine. It's not yours? No. Who is it? A females.

Oh, your girlfriend or something? No, no. A victim? No. So who? None of the above. What do you call it the talking stage? Yeah.

How is it? Any good? I'm not a big fan of Sparkle. I'm not a fan of it either. It'll do, I guess. All right, we agree on that. Okay. Now, why'd you take my globe?

Because it looks funny. Why does it look funny? It's a globe. You know, you bought the Israeli version. I did not buy the Israeli version. This was my grandfather's actually. Well, he bought the Israeli version. No, my grandfather, but an Israel one probably before it even existed again.

Yeah. Is Israel even on there? I've never checked. Yep, Israel, Tel Aviv, Yafo, Jerusalem. Okay, it's there. I don't see no Palestine on here, though. Right. So do you think Israel should exist? Yeah, people have asked me that before.

I think that's almost a futile argument. It's a futile argument. I think we've now progressed into a point where I think fighting the land battle about it is a little too late in the process. I would like to mitigate the killing of a bunch of innocent Palestinians if possible, though, because that team is more realistic. You know, I think I agree with you. Yeah. You got to start with the simpler, humane argument

before you can tackle the real issues. Yeah, I mean, it's just like, if they're getting genocide, they're not going to be in the position to fight and take land back. No. So let's maybe stop that first, stop funding it at least.

How many countries have you been to before? Uh, England. That's it? I think so. Really? Yeah, I haven't traveled that far out of the U.S. I've been to a bunch of states, but that's it.

What's your favorite state? I like New York. Why do you like New York? Because there's always crazy, funny homeless people dancing and singing, borderline homeless people dancing and singing, rich people who are looking very upset that they have to be in their presence. Right. You enjoy that dynamic from an entertainment perspective.

It's amazing. Yeah. It's like unlike any other place I've ever seen. Yeah. So like when you come here or anywhere and record, do you just go find a warehouse and set up like the white tent or? Well, I have a studio I use in New York. I'm using a studio. Okay.

And they let you do just make a tent. That's my set. It's the second best tent set in podcast and for sure. What's the competitor? Or? Mark Gagnon. His tent's better. Who is that? Camp my boy, Mark, Camp Gagnon. You never seen this? Oh, is that the guy on a...

Oh, flagrant. Yeah. Flagrant? Yeah, yeah. Best hair in the game, for sure. Shout out, Mark. See him right there. Oh, there's him before the hair. Look at that. Hold on. Go over two. Go up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hit that. That's before he had hair. But him being in a tent isn't fair because he looks like a homeless person who would be in a tent. So he has an advantage. Do you think he looks homeless? I think it looks pretty clean. Maybe not in that photo.

He is from Florida in your defense. Go to the recent one? Yeah. Homeless. Fair. That's fair. It's good hair, but he could be homeless. Would you like some water?

I've never seen him in a home now that you said. I don't want sparkling water. No. Like I said, I don't drink it. Now you got sparkling water on the table. That's like actually, is that acidic, Danny? I don't even know. Yeah, let's Google that.

Is sparkling water? acidic in any way? I'm not a biologist or chemist, you know? Yeah, mildly acidic. Yes, mildly acidic. When carbon dioxide dissolves in water, it forms carbonic acid, dropping the drinks pH to roughly 3.5 to 5.0. So you just put like a fucking 4 pH on my table.

And now you're going to put more. That's awesome. Would it melt by the time we're done? It might melt by the time we're done. And then, like I said, Danny Jones is, he's going to have to build a whole new table. I clean the carpet so that's not a big one. Okay, all right, keep adding to it. Let's not hit the wires down that.

The carpet melt? The carpet will not melt. The carpet will not melt. It's a very, I sleep on this carpet sometimes. What about the wooden floor? No, don't, don't do that. It's an experiment. It's an experiment.

You're not trying to fuck things up. You're just experimenting on my shit. We'll see if it melts. We'll see if it melts. Isn't it a fun experiment to do in your house? Not really. Not really. It's fun because I don't have any damages.

Do you want to be president one day? I don't think that's really even a relevant thing to consider right now. Why is it not relevant? If I want to be president? Yeah. Bill Clinton's already your rabbi. How many years off of that before I would even be allowed to run if I ran? You got another 16 if your birth age is correct.

Yeah. You might be a Dekemey Matumbo though. I'm kind of leaning towards that. I don't look 19 to you. I look older than that. Yeah. How old do I look? 28.5 maybe.

Are you serious? Yeah. I don't know if I should interpret that as an insult or not. No, it's for a guy. It's not an insult for sure. Seems like an insult. I mean, you could just find a video of me from 2019 when I'm 12. It exists in the Hong Kong videos.

Maybe you were on puberty blockers. Okay, well, see, now you have to come up with all these excuses. This is how you've done. That's not an excuse. I mean, you're from California. A lot of people were on those. Do I look like I was on those? You might have been?

Do I sound like I was on those? Well, you might have formulated the voice at this point. Yeah, see, now you have to come up with all these excuses. It's not excuses. You play a bit. You play a character on camera. No, I don't. What'd you just throw in him?

Oh, it was the cap to the city. It's not going to hurt you. No, no, that's fine. Yeah, you'll be all right. You'll be all right. Well, I wanted you to head it. You want to. With your head?

Like soccer. No, he's not a big soccer guy. You want to try? No. No, no, no, no. No. No. No.

No. No. No. That's a relic. I won't do it because you said it's from your grandpa. That's not even like a bought. Thank you. I appreciate that.

I'll let him know. He's still alive. Okay. No, no, no, no. No, no. We're just going to... We're just going to... We're just going to put this back over here.

No one can harm that. But you've only been to England. Yes. So you haven't done your world tour yet. A world tour just traveling or like actually... No, like actually doing the show, too. I feel like that would suit you. Like live or just filming with...

guess across the world. I think filming would guess across the world. I just I mean, I don't know if there's any yes across the world that would, I could get a hold of that would be interesting. Not one. I don't know anybody in like Austria. Yeah, but they know you and there's probably a few

interested motherfuckers there. It might be true but I just haven't got a hold of them. You haven't done that. I think you should do that. I think it would be good. But you have, you never thought about being president just because you're way too young according to what you say to I mean, it's just not, I have no political, uh, no political background. Weren't you just speaking at like some fucking young, uh, no, but I mean, I don't have like,

uh, I haven't been in the government at all. Usually you have to work your way up. Trump didn't. I was speaking at the, uh, the New York's young Republicans club gala. Who invited you? Some idiot, I guess, who got fired. I won't call him an idiot. Oh, we got fired. I appreciate that he got me up there to be this picture. Why do you say to get him fired? I guess I mean, well, they immediately

didn't let me back up to continue. I was the host of the whole event. Every time somebody came back up, oh, they asked you to MC. I was the MC. I was going to do my speech in the beginning, which I did. I was supposed to go off, go on,

go on the whole time, do a mail remark, conclusion remarks. I got my first six minutes, that was it. Who yanked you officially? They didn't even yank me. I went up,

I was supposed to be up there for five minutes. I did my intro for like, six just went off but then they didn't let you back up so somebody i was just well i asked the guy because there were two guys the two guys running the show they were like almost shaking they were like maybe partly out of anger and like i don't know what they what whatever they were expecting not that they should expect it i would fuck with them because i don't fuck with people you don't fuck with people no i'm because i don't do any of that nonsense yeah you don't do i mean dumb babies yeah dumb babies um some evidence there that you know somewhat some evidence again

what you just said. Well, that was a defensive position. It was a defensive position. Yes. All right, let me play some defense too. Look at that. Yeah. Well, I don't want to mess up my jacket.

You don't want to mess up your jacket. Hey, Mike, Mike. Mike, Mike, want to come in? I'll use, I have a better defense. Okay. All right. Okay. You're going to, you're going to, you can defend

with the camera. Can we just make sure it's at least facing me? Over there? I got the shampoo and conditioner. Those are a lot less deadly. Have you ever seen these things squirt? Oh well, you don't go far, but... Yeah, just make sure it's at least lined up.

If you need to play defense with that, you can, but... Let's move it over here. Let's make it like an actual... What time is you, by the way? Because I have to do that show we've got it. That's right. Yeah, I gotta get you out of here at 2.15, so we got like an hour. Okay. That way, this is kind of like an interview now, almost like a casting couch kind of thing.

I don't know if you're into that, but I'm not going to play along with that. Like where I'm like a rapist? Yeah, a little bit. I feel like you're about talk dirty to me or something. No, no. Okay, that's good. That's good. All right, that's heterosexual.

There's no main shot that includes everybody? Yeah, there is. It's right there, but we didn't put it on for you. We put on this camera in case Mike Mike came in. I didn't want the main shot for you. Seems like a bit of an oversight. Why is it an oversight? Did I have a main shot?

Well, that's, I mean, if Joey Diff were here, we would have had it for sure. There was a lot going on. You were spraying a lot of things and never put her on. You went to our on camera five, Danny? We haven't needed it today. Yeah, yeah. Because we got multiple angles. It's not too late.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, people watch these whole things. Oh, hohoho. Look at that. That's a lawsuit waiting to happen. On you. No, that's on you. Yeah, take the cover off.

This one, right? Yeah, we almost just lost. producer Danny. It's also clearly a very good defense. It is good defense. I'll give you that. But it won't look good in court. Yeah, is it on? It's not on. You got to turn it on. You have to turn like the switch on top. He's not going to die. All financial issues. But like I've seen him fall. It's not great. It's not great. You see on top there's like a switch right there. You turn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're good now. Like I said, Danny's the editor.

And today, today, you know, oh, did you turn that off now? Yeah. Why did you turn that off? I want to see if you can figure out how to turn it on. You've, no, no, no, no, no. Not there. Not there. All right, all right.

On the back of the camera. See the power button? No, no. Shut off. Yeah, it's the power button. All right. Yeah, yeah, hold on. Yeah, just flick it.

There it goes. Is it on now? Yeah, yeah, it's on. It's right on me. Can you even hear you? Like you're not even near the mic. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's loud, but now he's going to move it again.

Okay. This is why we don't do these stuff? We won't do this stuff. Now we have equal weaponry. You both have nuke stuff. You still haven't touched the bottom of the plunger. Why would I touch the bottom of a plunger with your shit on the way in here? And now you know there's shit on it.

Yeah. When you brought it in, you were carrying it like that. No, I wasn't. Yeah, you weren't. Are you crazy? Yeah. I think Danny actually has that on video. He was shooting some shit.

No. Yeah. Have you talked to any cartel guys? I don't think so. You should. Why is that? Because I think you would actually be able to ask them good cutting questions and get them off balance, provided they spoke some English.

If it's a guy, it just speaks Spanish. That's going to be tough. I feel like that might be a little dangerous for me. It might be a little dangerous. But you could just hire security. What is he trying to figure out right now? No, he's good. He's good.

He's just taking notes. for you. You know? I would like a coffee after this. I was treated unfairly. I would like a coffee. Another coffee. You're not supposed to agree with him. Oh, no. I got you a coffee about. Okay. Yeah, yeah. No, I... You need two coffee? I don't know. That's what he's saying. Clearly, he needs it more than one. That's compensation. Two coffers. It could be compensation. He needs more energy than the average person to keep it running. Yeah. But if you talk with a cartel guy that spoke

English as well, you might be able to get to the bottom of the fentanyl crisis. And I feel like that would be something that can put you on a pathway for political start. Is this though or is it really just like the process of elimination? Process of a... That's dark, madone. It's true though. Why is it true? I don't know.

Figure it out yourself. Okay, simplicity. Someone gets hurt on the job. They blow out their back doing nothing wrong and then doctor prescribes them fucking opium and then suddenly they're on the streets looking for fentanyl because the doctor got him addicted to opium. They should have been stronger and not hurt their back on the job. Okay.

So you would have just. just stop them doing the... You think that it's like an evolutionary Darwinism if you just hurt your back on the job. You shouldn't have hurt your back on the job. You should have been stronger. But what if you're working really hard or like... And you should have worked as hard as you can

without not hurting your back because you should have been stronger. Have you ever hurt your back? Uh, no. But if you did and got addicted to fentanyl, would you see it differently? Then I would think that I got eliminated by the process. Eliminated by the process. So are you like a population control guy? I was arguing against that earlier.

I know. That's what I'm saying. a population control guy. I'm just questioning how big this crisis is. And if it's really a crisis. Crisis in air quotes. Yeah. Is it a crisis or is it really just like we're getting rid of some people who probably

we don't need anyways? And also they look really funny. And like we take photos of them and send it to our friends in a group chat and like look at this crazy guy. Okay, well, I do. I'm like, is this the craziest one we've seen so far? We have like a whole collection. We have like a shared like a photo group where we all out the best ones.

Right. You do that with Mike, Mike? Well, he's in one of the photos from when I got him. Right. But he's not in the group. He might find it a little offensive. So you're worried about offending him. So you make an exception for him.

Actually, that's a good point. I don't think he's even capable of really being offended or interpreting why he should be. So actually, no. Yeah, he just wouldn't understand what's funny about it. Do you pay for his drugs? He's not on drugs anymore. He's not? Yeah, it's just his brain.

He's so fry. from all the ones he did. I don't know. Listen, when he had to be a lawyer for Palm Beach PD, he was pretty good. I don't think your brain could be fried to say some of the things he was saying. He's a great slave.

It's a great slave. So you just admitted it. Yes. Yes. Let's go back to that. We never fully answered that question. You were talking about maybe chaining them in rooms and stuff

to people that pass the IQ test or whatever your smart test is and everything. But like, what would you make them do as slaves? The whole point was to grow the population, so it's... Strictly for eugenics. What about the kids that they have?

Do you make them automatically? automatically slaves too or are they going to be a part of you know maybe some of them maybe just to continue at some point maybe we don't have to do this thing anymore where we right take an acute test it can just be those children that's smart so you you keep some and then send up yeah like you have you start with 10 you have 30 kids right then now you will live at 15 and 15 so you've grown by 15 and now instead of 15 now you know what I mean right so what do you think the the world population is 8 billion right now how many of those people do you think would qualify to be slaves. In America or the world? The world. Let's start at the world and then we'll go to America.

Work our way down. In the world, maybe about 150 million. So you think a lot of the world's dumb. I'm going to move on to America now. Okay. In America, probably about 150 million. So the rest of the world is pretty dumb to you. You only been to one country. How can you know? I guess I'm kind of counting I think that's a lie I'm in Europe in America Europe in America Yeah Europe is very similar

I mean it's the same So you don't think they're good at math in Asia The issue is that they're not just Isn't that they're not good at math It's more of a cultural crisis Cultural how so I mean you don't see like the videos of like The guys in Tokyo just like

Collapsing on a bus Like not even finding their way home To go to sleep after they've worked for 18 hours straight. Uh-huh. I feel like you're making the opposite argument, though. What's the opposite argument? Because you were saying $150 million only including America and Europe

where some of these problems exist. But you're saying in Asia, those problems don't exist, which would make it smarter. You're talking about people that are like falling over from being... The population problem doesn't exist in Asia. Are you idiots? No. Are you talking about people that are actually falling over from being on fentanyl and shit like that?

No, from just not resting because... Not resting. You haven't seen the video? of like the Japanese guys on the on the subway I don't think I have actually can we pull that up Japanese guys falling over on subway video okay let's see this is a common thing they just fall over I get like three of these videos a day like that what does that mean okay is this right here yeah yeah let's grab it ever heard of the OSHA with you know there is video this one this is what you want don't

worry about the volume, Danny. Oh, they're trying to fit them into the sub. Holy shit. Look at them and just pushing them in like a sardine. That's interesting at least. Okay, go back and let's get the video on Matan once, because you saw it. Which one do you want, Matan? Well, I don't see a video, but I see it says videos and photos of Japanese salary men falling over, passing out of sleeping in unusual positions. We moved it. Yes, sir. Our subways are highly viral phenomena online. They're deeply tied to Japan's intense corporate culture and drinking. No shit. So drinking habits too. That's a drug.

Yeah, well, that's why I don't drink. I don't want to end up like a Japanese man sleeping on a bus. Right, but we have that here too. And I'll bet it's in that $150 million as well. Yeah, well, there's a lot more than 150 million people who live in the U.S. and Europe. I know. We kind of had to cut it down a little bit. Yeah, so you're automatically cutting it down anyone who drinks. Anyone who's an alcoholic that doesn't find their way home at night? Yes.

Okay. You've been eliminated from my eugenics plan. What if you just do it once? you've just done that one time yeah does that eliminate you like if you have one like bender night ideally yes but i feel like then we're not going to have enough people yeah yeah see there you go that's true now what is your master race look like is it like all one race or is it just strictly based on i don't care who culture hasn't progressed enough for me to get that races but maybe we can revisit that soon we can revisit that yes do you want them to look like you as i said maybe we'll revisit soon

But is that a possibility? Maybe if Israel bombs like one more country, it'll progress to the point where we can start getting into the master race. Would you go back to Israel at this point? Go back, get it? Do you think that would trick me? That stupid-ass trick? If I was really a liar and I was from Israel,

do you think that that would catch me? This whole sophisticated plaid I've been doing this whole time would get caught like that by an idiot skateboarder? Probably. Wouldn't take much. Clearly not. Yeah. But also not.

Really clearly not. Was that a Trump voice? Clearly not. Does he say that? I mean, the way you said that was a similar tone. You were going down on the, you know, on the scale. You guys have great speaking patterns. You like his speaking patterns.

Yeah. Would he make your eugenics plan? He doesn't do drugs or drink. Oh, would he get into the plan? Yeah. Would he be like a procreater for your eugenics? We can do that. We could do that.

I mean, I think it's going to be easier to find the men, right? Sounds kind of gross. Yeah. because they're going to have a lot more of an issue. The men is kind of like a one-day process. Even thinking about this is a little gross. What do you mean one-day process? I don't know if you know how having kids work.

But you don't really need- Oh, you're saying on the actual procreation side, but you're saying it's easier finding men. You don't really need male slaves. You know what I mean? Oh, you would only make the slaves females because you'd have to require watching them for nine months while they are actually producing.

You don't really need that with the men. So it sounds like the sexist eugenics plan, But really it's just practical. I'm a practical guy. You're a practical guy. It's all about being pragmatic and practical. I'm always looking for the right solution to help everybody. So are you saying you would only enslave the guys for like one day at a time here and there?

Unfortunately, I feel like they'd be happy to volunteer. As disgusting is that me. Yeah. Did you talk to Bonnie Blue about that? Well, that's a good example of it. I didn't talk to her about it. She certainly wouldn't make the eugenics plan. She wouldn't make it, right?

Yeah, it's a good call. The brain is too screwed up. Yeah, you didn't like her, right? No, not particular. Yeah. Why'd you talk to her if you didn't like her? You were just interested. I'm sure you have guests on your show all the time you don't like, no?

Not that often, no. You like me? Yeah, I like you. But not a gay way, right? Not in a gay way, no. Hard pause. That's right. Again, I thought you were into that, so I'm happy for you.

Gay stuff? Yeah. Yeah, we already went over that. Yeah, we did. See, this is why I don't run my podcasts for four hours. Because we just keep revisiting the same thing. He's like, ah! But then I can catch you and some, you know. Even caught me in a slip-up this whole time.

I think I've caught you in a couple. You actually told me once that was good and you fist-pumped me. What was it? I don't remember. There's a lot going on today. What are you looking at? Seeing if there's anything else to discuss. You don't have any ideas?

I mean, I didn't prepare for this. And honestly, usually, usually I don't want anything to- Usually I'll blame the guests for not prepare or the host when I guessed on somebody's show for not preparing enough. But we only scheduled this with like, what, eight hours advance? Yeah, talk to you last night. Yeah. I like the freewheel all of them, though. How much do you freewheel versus like preparing for yours?

I'm very prepared. It seems that way. Yeah. But then you have a lot off-the-cuff stuff and you let it go on tangents, which is good. So the preparation is really just getting people going. And then you let the match it out. The preparation is the questions. I write questions down.

You do write them down. But then you go on. Questions I need answers to. Not always. Well, it's always to me or I wouldn't write it out. You know, some of the questions, I don't think you need the answer. to i think you just want them that's that's what what now we're having an argument about wanting and needing yeah these are two different things do i need to know if uh if he's epstein for example mr

epstein right yeah i don't really need to i want to i don't think i ever ask questions that i need to know the answer to to a guest on my show why not because i don't think those exist i'm usually not in such a life situation where i need to ask a question it's mostly just about wanting. So you just do it because it's fun for you? Yes. Okay. All right.

One more question then. Okay. Do you think John Kyriaku is still in the CIA or not? Because you talk to him now. That's my boy. It's a good question. I would say probably not. Probably not.

He actually went to prison. He did. Well documented. That's right. So unless he was, okay, assuming it wasn't a trick. the whole time, he would have then had to rejoined them after not just exposing them for something that he didn't like doing, but then they basically put him in jail for it. Or alternatively, he was willing to actually go to jail for a long time, which neither seemed as probable

as just a guy who's not in the CIA anymore. You ever hear a sheep dipping? No. That's where they, that's where you agree to do that purposely. It's like that scene. The prison thing. Yeah. It's like that scene in the departed where he's like, could happen. Yeah, it could happen. But it seems like probably not. Yeah. I don't know also if he's really swaying like public sentiments on any serious issues.

He's just telling funny stories. You don't think he's swaying any public sentiments. I might disagree with you there because the funny stories open up the bar to him actually having a very big platform. And then when he's able to actually give opinion on things, people are listening. Well, we're yet to see that then, though. I think he's probably moved the needle on some things. Such as? For sure.

I think he's moved the needle. I'm not trying to say he's not influential, by the way. It just seems like most of the stuff he's talking about is like personal stories to him or stuff that's like mostly unproblematic. Like, hey, we probably shouldn't be torturing Arabs. That's unproblematic. Mostly, yes. Why is that unproblematic?

That we shouldn't be torturing Arabs? Yeah. Are you Jewish? No. So then they should be unproblematic. But no, but you're saying why is maybe I'm misunderstanding. Why is it unproblematic? To not want that to happen?

That he's discussing that publicly. Are you saying because there's people who want to do it? And that's not really a problematic position to say you don't want to torture Arabs. Or anyone in general. Well, specifically Arabs in this case. Yeah, they did it to a lot of Arabs in that case. You're not going to get a lot of comments. Like, hey, I was a fan of you, but now that you said you don't want to torture Arabs,

I think I'm done watching this show. But it might be ruffling the feathers of people who do want to do that. I think that's a small segmented group to John Kyriaku who exposed torturing Arabs in the government is probably not worried about. I hope he's not worried about them. He certainly seems not to be. It doesn't seem like it. But yeah, I don't know.

I would guess that he's not in the CIA anymore. I liked him. He was a really nice guy. Maybe he fooled me, but I would guess not. No, he was definitely off balance with you, which was cool. Yeah. So I was glad to see you do that one. What about Bustamante?

You think he's still in? Much more likely to me. Far more possible. I 100 think he's still. Then again, I think it's also far more possible that he, maybe he wasn't even ever there, really. I don't know. He was there for sure.

Yeah, but what he might have been in there seemed like debated upon on how high level his position is. He wasn't crazy high up. Frankly, and he's talked about it, his career really only really only ended up progressing because of who his wife was.

His wife was like a high level targeter. He seems like he might well be in the CIA still. Yeah. You think he is? 100%. Have you spoken to him before? A ton. Oh, really?

He comes on the show. A bunch, yeah. I tell him every time since the beginning. The CIA? Yeah. I think I said the same thing to him, and I think, yeah, he probably still is. Yeah. I don't get the same impression of that with John.

I agree. It would break my heart if John was actually still in CIA. Yeah, that would be unfortunate. It would be very unfortunate. Yeah. Would you disband the whole CIA? These banned? Yeah, get rid of it.

Like Kennedy. What's the purpose? Well, there's a lot of people who are like, well, they've gotten way too out of control. They take advantage of every single constitutional right. I'm really just not informed enough to really answer that question. That's a great answer. Disband the CIA.

I feel like that probably involves so many intricate problems that would solve and create that. I can't answer that. Okay. Are you going to fix my table before you leave? Well, it doesn't really seem like this melted your table. Well, it definitely left a stain on it. To remember me by. Not to remember you by.

I don't want to remember you. You want me to buy you a $30 wooden plank? it's not there it's more than that and I'd like you to come in here and actually rebuild that part personally and put the ceiling on I'll give you the ceiling on I have it back there you can go fuck yourself no I won't do that

you're gonna you're gonna come back and do that then we're ready to pass okay okay you can get the fuck out of my studio now don't do a pretend that I mean like we're having some no no that's okay we're not I don't but it wasn't nice to see you we're doing this we're doing like a fake bit at the end

Oh, a fake bet. Julian skateboarder is mad. Mm-hmm. His stupid friend over there still doesn't know why he's here. Yeah. We'll leave that up to people to decide if I'm actually mad or faking it. I think they know I'm faking it. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure that. And what's the point? You thought I would play along? No. I'm not a faker guy. I don't fake stuff. You don't fake anything. Nope.

You didn't change your personality at all after you walked in here. You just want to move that to make sure. You said I acted differently outside? Yes. Did we even have a conversation that lasted 30 seconds? It was about 20 seconds. Hey, nice to meet you. Where's the bathroom? It was about, well, there were a couple other commentary in there.

What did I say outside? You were asking me, oh, so you live here and record here. I was like, yeah. That seems like a reasonable question. I would ask you this on this show. That's not. Yeah. But it wasn't in this voice or in this tenor and you weren't wearing that jacket. You were wearing a t-shirt. Yeah, because I had just had my hat on when I was outside because I didn't want.

So this is hat head for you? What does that mean? I mean, that's a pretty good hat head right there. If you had a hat on. Oh, well, I see what you're saying. Yeah, sure. I guess so. Okay.

All right, Mattan, in all seriousness, thanks for coming. I appreciate you, bro. Everybody else, you know what it is. Give it a thought, it back to me. Peace. Oh, you're fucking funny, bro. That's it? That was great.

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