Julian Dorey Podcast - Mysterious $36 Billion AI SCAMMER, Dirtiest Influencer PSYOP & Chris Hansen | Julian Dorey

Episode Date: October 10, 2026

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What's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the Julianie Dory podcast. I am Julian Dory. I'm Joey Diff. Hey, how you doing? Joey Diff, you're going to see in prime time about Chris Hansen yet? No, not yet. I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

Oh, yeah, I want to see it soon. You still a little banged up, right? Just a little bit. This is the world's longest flu. Yeah, well. Yeah, well. It's character. Yeah, I do want to see it to get my thoughts before we, like, go deep into it.

Obviously, we had talked about it last month. when Chris went to go see the cut of it before it came out at A24, it handed up not seeing it there because they went to sign in it. They were making them sign an NDA and he felt like it was signing away too much. We did later find out part of what was in that NDA is that he agrees in no way at any point in the future to sue A24 or anyone associated with the film for any information in there. So even just that alone, I understand why maybe that's standard for some other random schmo to be signing that in an NDA to go watch an early cut. But for the guy that the movie's about who they didn't consult on it with and didn't talk to anyone from his production team on, which is fine.

That's their creative decision to make him want to sign that and make it seem like a formality is a little off. because it does seem like obviously he has a different idea on what happened during the time period where the movie primetime is going to be taking place on than what they portrayed in the film because he did go watch it when it came out. But Chris and I are going to be doing a podcast. We've been talked about it for a few months. Originally, when Chris came on episode 397 in March, he was like intrigued by this movie coming out.

And I had been thinking, man, it would be kind of funny if eventually. we could get like Chris Hansen and Robert Pattinson, who I'm a big fan of, enjoyed D's a big fan of, in here at the same time. Then obviously the whole snafu would the movie happen. So that's not going to be happening. Yeah, I don't think that's... I don't think that's... It would have been cool.

Yeah, it would have been cool. Yeah, it would have been nice. Would have been cool. You know, make peace, not war. But that said, I do, and I know Joe feels the same way. I want to go see it myself to get an idea because sometimes things can also be separated where it's like, you know, they're doing something. sort of entertaining take on something and they happen to use the names of people, which isn't

always the best, but like maybe the movie stands alone as well. I just want to see like how they framed it. Because obviously, like, regardless of some of the style, like sometimes people get into like the memeification of Chris Hansen and like the style he has and shit like that. And it's it's funny because Deif and I will tell you, at least in our dealings off camera, like he's Chris Hansen at all time. He's, he is Chris Melfucking. Yeah. Yeah. Well, What happened when you answered the door when he came here? Yeah, yeah. When I answered the door, I'm like, hey, Chris, nice to meet you.

I'm Joey. Like, thanks for coming. And he's like, you know, most people get quite nervous when I'm knocking on their front door. And I'm just like, holy shit. He is exactly what I thought he would be like. We took like one bathroom break, too. Remember that? And in the middle, like, he took the call.

He goes, hello? All right. Yeah. So we're doing the sting Thursday at three. Okay, well, that means we need to be ready, stand in 1 p.m. No later. Okay. And it's just like back and forth like this for like two minutes. I'm just like sitting there like, right. We ready? He goes, all right. I'll talk to you then. Okay. Let's go. You know, he's like, like he's all business with it. But the bottom line is there's no doubt Chris Hansen has done some amazing work over the years exposing some really awful people in society. And, you know, people. can argue with style on certain things, but like he also crafted it over the years to work hand in hand with law enforcement on it. And they've been able to make cases through that, which is more than we can say for some other people that do try to do this. Some people do good work and like work

with the law enforcement. And I've seen some of that work out. Other people, it sometimes feels like it's just for content, which, you know, Mariana Vancella also laid out when she was in here, her issues with that. And I fully understand that. But like, Chris has done a lot of work over the years. the thing you don't want to see is something like that turned the other way in the sense that he becomes villainized rather than more praised. Nobody's perfect. I'm sure there's certain things Chris would have done differently. Maybe we can talk about that when he's in here for the second time.

But like, you know, all in all, I'd say Chris Hansen's been a nice net gain for society and the things he's done. So I'm going to judge the movie on its own. obviously it seems like Robert Pattinson just from a from an from an impersonation perspective seems to have really gotten it down. I'm curious to see that play out for the whole thing. What I would hate to see happen is if this ended up being like the wrong movie at the wrong time though that was taken the wrong way and would ever be like, you know, villainizing the wrong side of it. Like make no mistake about it. The villains in the story are the people who are abusing kids like this and showing up to these places that Christian.

Hansen's things and that should never get lost and he's doing amazing work still on true blue and and you know with his channels on youtube and everything and continues to do this to this day so shout out to Chris we will watch the movie and then you know it seems like knock on wood we're getting Chris in here so we'll be able to talk about it but other than that I'm not going to comment farther I know a lot of people are saying shit online yeah we'll see how this looks when the time is right you see how this looks right we're going to take a seat that's right see for ourselves. That's right. We'll see for ourselves. Yeah. So anyway, that's said. Joy Deef, these days, these days, sometimes I just see some shit and I'm like, send the asteroid, right?

Yeah, every day. Send the Great Flood. Every day. Bring it. You know, like, like I strike me down too. I don't care. I'll go with all of it. Send me. If you know, you know. But, you know. Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge huge help. Thank you. I don't know if there's any one person who epitomizes the, I don't know, the faltering of certain elements of our society than that fucking Bonnie Blue bitch. You've seen her? Yeah, she's doing her thing, huh?

Yeah. So we're going to pull this latest video. Deaf's already got it up. But Bonnie Blue, if you don't know, and if you don't know, good for you. I'm really sorry to like break your world right now and tell you about this thing. I don't even know what kind of person she is. But Bonnie Blue and some other lady, Lily Phillips, I want to say her name is. Hope I'm getting that right.

They went really viral. I think it was a couple years ago for being only fans creators that, and I'm just reporting what they were doing, this is really what they were doing, that we're trying to have competitions on how many guys they could fuck in like a 12-hour period and 24-hour period. It was disgusting. Like, they, I think at one point, Joey Defe, there was some sort of competition or whatever where they got to a thousand guys in a certain number of times. Yes, I think they kissed those numbers.

They got close to those numbers is what I heard. And what's even just as gross is the fact that a thousand guys would show up so desperately to do this. Get in, get off, get out. Essentially. I mean. This is the world we live. This is the world we live in.

But anyway, every time I've seen this lady talk, first of all, maybe this is just me. I don't even find her attractive. I think she looks fucking weird. But that's just me. That said, the other one, unfortunately, is attractive. The Lily Phillips girl is what a waste of talent. But every time I see this Bonnie Blue chick go all over the place and talk about this, She is so cold and so calculated and so money grubbing and so materialistic and so completely

like devilish about her attitude towards whatever it is she does. I don't even know what to call it. But what really just sent this thing over the top is when I heard, and I guess this was about a year ago now, that she got pregnant. So that poor fucking. kid, first of all. I hope no one holds that against the kid. I hope childhood protective, child protective

services, I guess in the UK where she's from, come and take the kid. And I say that as someone who's very against, like, the government getting in on family lives, but like the evidence on this fucking bitch, it needs to be considered. Because just when I thought the

situation couldn't get lower after she birthed him and I guess then immediately continued to go about her escapades, she was still out drinking and doing shots at the club. and trying to fuck guys. I think she did, by the way, while she was pregnant with the kid. Where some see heroes and others see egos.

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You know, so he's going to be sitting in a shrink's office when he's 15 and fucked up in the head somehow. I hope he's not. Or he'll become the next Harry Potter. Or he'll become the boy who lived. Yeah, because he'll be with a family and be living under the stairs. 100%. They'll be like the boy who lived. You know who.

Somehow. You know who. He came from that girl named Bonnie Blue. Don't do that. And that'll be the nursery rhyme they sing and then he becomes a magician. That poor kid. He'll be all right. But anyway.

Like, you know, if he's fucked up in the head at all, I hope he's not, but, you know, if he is eventually, he's going to be able to be looking at video data representation of exactly where it was going wrong in the fucking simple integration because of his mother, but I hesitate to call her even that. She did technically birth him. But just when I thought it couldn't get lower, apparently, allegedly, and I genuinely hope that. Somehow this is some sort of like publicity stunt she's doing. I don't think it is. It appears to be real. Bonnie Blue put up for auction what she should name her kid. I'm going to let her explain this. So we got to turn up the volume there a little bit deep because it's this is a lower volume clip. My auction finished and for 1.2 million. 1.2 million.

I've got to be a betball across the playground. Betball. I sort of know what betball would do. I'm confused. Like should I contact them? Should I say Thank you. Are they going to be involved in my baby's life? Or they're just going to be because my baby's something called Betbol. Hopefully Betbol reach out today because I have a appointment tomorrow at Westminster Registry Office to officially name my baby. I'm serious. I'm just like this is disgusting or this is Raidvi.

Wouldn't you from 1.2 million re-nelled a kid because I know why I would. But then again, I still enjoy anyone money by opening my legs. If I hadn't opened him, I would have known to make this 1.2. Do you want to set up all the names? Second was Rick Lover. That guy on Twitter, that's always just with loads of girls. Group project that would have been. Group project.

I think social services would... That's kind of funny. To be honest, I have all of them. Top G, that would have been quite funny. Yeah. And Betball, I'm 1.2 million up. And I cannot wait to spend that money. Or maybe I was meant to spend that money on the kid.

I'm saying I'm called the kid anymore. It's called Bebole. And I've got to go because I need to feed a Betball. You know, I've been very on record that, like, just personally, I'm not, I'm not a subscriber to organize religion. I do believe that a creator, created all this and I'm pretty humble in the face of that. Like that's that's something I think we're all going to have to answer for when it's all said and done. I don't know where, when, how,

or why, but I think something's all powerful up there. And there is really something wrong when society does move completely towards materialism and money to the extent that they are willing to completely sell out everything starting with their bodies in pursuit of that as their God. And this is something that I have talked with religious scholars across the organized religions over the years where their ancient texts all worn against this directly, which means, I don't know, when I'm running that kind of data, it seems like they're all onto something with that. And there's no worse manifestation, I think, is the proper way to put it than this fucking lady and the thing she says.

Now, some of the names there obviously are hilarious. and then you remember they're talking about a real human, that she's going to go down to the, you know, Westminster, wherever the fuck she said, and name her kid these things. And now he's being named Betbolt, which I don't even know. Is that like a brand or something? Pretty good name. Oh, you're sold, Joey.

Pretty good name. You think it's a good name. 1.2 million betbolt. It can't be real. It can't. Is it real? I genuinely hope it's not. I can't be real.

I genuinely hope it's not. She'll name it and then like in six months from now, she'll change it under the, you know, on the down low. Listen, whether or not that continues to make her a bad person, obviously, is aside. Well, yeah, that's all aside. Because it does. That's all said and done. But I genuinely hope that would happen. Yeah.

Change it to like Chris or something. Like something normal. You know what I mean? Mike, Joe, Jit, something. Yeah. But you see things like this and then you think about all of the. I'm going beyond just to organize religion texts. One thing Joey Deef that ties almost all ancient texts together all the way the Samarians

and everything is a story of a flood. The great flood. The great flood. And there's some sort of story that is reflected in like a character like Noah who said two by two bring all the fucking animals and shit except Bonnie Blue. Put him on the ship. My immediate family on there as well. the world has fallen everyone's fucked up we're gonna get on this boat the flood's gonna happen we're gonna survive

and we're gonna rebuild humanity are you letting bonnie on that boat bonnie's not getting on that fucking boat she's not getting on that boat noah is gonna be upset with you in fact all right so let's play this out joy dude if you and bonnie blue were the last two people on earth and it was on you to continue the human race would you i'm doing it yeah you got to do it you got to Sadly, sadly, I think you have to. But here's the question. Of course you do. So now, and again, this is strictly a hypothetical.

Samson option. Strip. Well, hold that thought. In a reverse. Hold that thought. Hold that thought, Joey Dief. I'm going dark here for a minute. This is strictly a hypothetical.

You too. Strictly a hypothetical. But if that society, which is comprised of two people, did exist. And then enough procreation happened. And then I don't know how the sibling on sibling thing goes for like the gene pool here. That's probably going to have to happen in this case. Just in the beginning. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a little beyond where I'm comfortable talking. But, you know, there's no laws. Do you push her off the cliff once it's set and done? You know, just for like the good of the future. Do you do it? It's a hypothetical. It's a hypothetical. Do you do it?

That's a lot of money lost, though. What do you mean money lost? There's no money. We got to fuel the economy. of me. There's no, no, no, no, no. There's no money. You already, you know, did the deed several times. You have multiple girls and boys and now, you know. No, no, I'm not going to. You're not going to do it? No. I think there might be a unfortunate trip over that cliff. I mean, I'm not, I'm not in judgment of that. That's, you know. Yeah. I just think me personally,

no, I don't think I will. Good for you, Joe Deef. Yeah. Good for you. I might not. I just, you know what the better way to say it is I wouldn't discourage it. Yeah. Like if she got really down on herself, I might be like, yeah. And you're like, it's not getting better. Yeah, you might as well. Yeah. I'll just be over here. You let me know if you change your mind. Yeah, see it through. Yeah. Not a, not a great, certainly not a person you want to be stuck on an island with at the end of humanity for sure. But, you know, you think about, wait, Joey Defe. Well, I mean, listen, if she was ready to go with a thousand guys in 12 hours and you know we got to get we got to get civilization booming again i don't know you know let's put all of the the societal norms and the constructs out of our heads for a second

and let's just talk let's just talk biology for a minute you know what i mean let's get scientific you think in that assembly line so you're going from lee cronan's assembly theory to assembly line theory. Yeah, oh, that's crazy. That's some crazy work. Those first few generations are going to be crazy, dude. I don't think that's where Lee saw that evolving to. No, I don't know if Lee can see anything, honestly. I'm kidding. Yeah, no, he can see a few things. He can see something. That wasn't one of them. Yeah, and it wasn't, all right, yeah, you're right. That's right. Side note, one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. I don't know if I said this on an episode yet. I want to make sure we put this on the record because it might have been the end of

an episode we did it so we're more towards the beginning of this one. Not a lot has funnier, not a lot funnier has happened in 2026 than when we were sitting at dinner with Lee Cronin after we recorded with him. And Joey Deef asked Lee Cronin why Peter Thiel is so shiny. To which I said, because he's covered income. And that's all right. And that's his choice. Okay. That's what, I said it with a stray face. It's like, and that's his choice. And that's his choice. That's his choice. And Lee Cronin's head went in the stake. Yeah. From just, I don't even know if it was laughter yet. I think that had to set in about 10 seconds later. It was just because it was in the middle of like a rather serious part of the conversation that night, which there wasn't a lot of that.

We were just laughing a lot of the time. But it was like rather serious and deep, like very seriously. He's like, well, you know why he's so shunny. Right. It's true. It's covered and come. I would love to tell Peter that. You should tell him that. That would be cool. You should tell him that. I mean, it's a life sport. It's a lifestyle decision. Yeah, and he'd be a good sport. You think he'd be, you think he would look at me and be like, oh, the guy to shine my shoes is here. And I'd be like, oh, no, that's not what I'm here to do, sir.

You got to be careful with that language. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. When you're around a guy like that, that can mean a lot of different things. Yeah. Yeah. But Joey Deef is doing the assembly line with Bonnie Blue. Yeah.

In that scenario. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we got to get it. I respect. Yeah. your fortitude for the future of humanity. I really do. Well, we got to, we got to keep going. We got to keep going. You got to keep going. Or it's going to be Elon's world. Now, do you have to close your eyes and imagine it's someone else?

No, it's fine. No? You're just going to. We'll just get it done. It's for science. Nice and reasonable for science. For science. Yeah, it's for science. Well, as I was saying, the ancient texts. Yeah, the Great Flood. The Great Flood, right? It's shown over and over again. when humanity is fallen.

And naturally, you know, I do think about that a little more and how it can happen. So in the simulation theory of life and how some things are going right now, it's rather interesting that after all this time, thousands of years, to be exactly, it appears that maybe, just maybe, some archaeologists, researchers, historians, a mix of whatever this team is comprised of, things that perhaps. Perhaps they have found the final resting place of what we know as Noah's Ark itself. I shit you not. This is a real story.

Did you hear about this or is this the first time? No, I didn't. But it's the perfect year to discover these types of things. Yes. Almost like we're mentally preparing for, I don't know, like the event? The event. The event, right? Yeah.

Can you pull up the second link, Joey Deef? This has got the full article with the details. for people. Noah's Ark. But this is, Noah's, the headline says, Noah's Ark resting place, quote, 100% confirmed, unquote, after 4,300 years as huge discovery made. According to the Bible, the massive vessel saved humanity in every kind of animal from every single one, Joey Deep.

That's crazy. From annihilation during a catastrophic flood, experts now say they have found a formation. Let's go down. Isn't that cool? And give people to Deeb's. To open an article with, yeah, according to the Bible, here's the news. Right. The Bible news, hello. Perfect.

The remains of Noah's Ark have supposedly been confirmed and found after remaining a mystery for hundreds of thousands of years. Experts say they have found a mysterious boat-shaped formation that some researchers believe could be the remains of Noah's Ark high in the mountains in Turkey. According to the Bible, the massive vessel saved humanity in every kind of animal from annihilation in chronologies that placed more than 4,300 years ago. believe that they have, quote, 100% confirmed, unquote, the find. They believe the mound is not a natural geological feature, but instead, quote, a man-made object, unquote, which has been located in Duripinar formation near Mount Arat. I do have to say. And remind me, I got to talk to Matt LaCroix about coming in early next year. I keep forgetting to do that. But Matt's been on the show a bunch and Matt's done some extensive work on the ground himself in Turkey. So,

Matt's a great guy, cares a lot about ancient history. I love hearing him talk sometimes. He goes like a little far on some stuff. But like when it comes to some of the things that are being found and the structures and the stuff in Lake Vaughn and Turkey, like some of his work there to me is really, really, really, impressive. And I highly recommend people check that out. But this, Joey, you have this image up for people, right?

So they can see that right now. Oh, yeah. Everything reminds me of her, you know. That's just. You took the words out. my mouth. That is, uh... That's a musse. We found the clitoris.

That's a mountain, that's a mussy. Yes. A mussey. Yeah. You just come up with that now? Yeah, just now. That's pretty good. Yeah, it's mountain pussy. That's good. Mountain pussy. Yeah, mussy. Okay, let's go down so I can keep giving the scientific details. They used laser technology and radar surveys to look into the area and say they found structural layers, straight lines, right angle intersections, and large,

cavity-like spaces at multiple depths which suggests something man-made had once laid there. The researchers also claim their high-tech scans show potential chambers. A chamber of secrets down there, Joe D. That's it. Corridors and tunnels along with a thick underground layer dividing into three parts, a feature that compared to God's command in Genesis for Noah to build the arc with three decks. Imagine you're finding something and you're going through like these hardcore scientific LIDAR surveys and like looking at the scans and figuring out the structure and then like turning to Genesis and you're like, oh yeah, matches up.

Yeah. Like that's got to be some next level shit. It's got to be pretty crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Now they are searching to see if they can find any traces of decayed wood to further substantiate their claims. There's more.

So there's kind of a side profile. Independent researcher Andrew Jones, the founder of Noah's arc scans. Right to the point on that name. Has investigated the area for nearly 30 years. neither the radar surveys nor drilling conducted inside the formation detected limestone or solid bedrock. That's interesting. Okay. The expert added this destroys the theory the site is a solid limestone block shape into a this destroys the theory the site is a solid limestone block shaped into a boat by glaciers and

weathering after coming down the mountainside and it also refutes the theory that this is bedrock around which mud flowed to form the shape. I firmly believe the Deripnar formation represents the buried remains of Noah's Ark. The research team recently drilled into the formation collecting samples that may contain vital evidence and is the latest hunt to find the elusive formerly mythical boat. That is fucking wild. The first major radar survey in 2019 detected linear and angular anomalies the team interpreted as possible walls, passageways, and separate compartments. A deeper investigation conducted in 2026 by Dr. Kosro-Baktar used in an advanced radar system developed through U.S. Air Force research and found massive layered reflectors,

underground boundaries that bounce radar signals back towards the surface, as well as what the team interpreted as sediment-filled cavities in the same area. Five prominent anomalies appeared to form a possible tunnel system extending across roughly 151 feet with an average structural height of over 14 feet. How tall is an elephant? So if it was 14 feet, like an African elephant. I want to sure I have it exact, an African elephant. Fits, 13 feet. That's max, yeah. 13 feet max, which means 14 foot ceilings

would fit the elephant. The largest mammal on earth. Wow. We out here finding biblical shit, Joey Deef. I don't know whether to be excited or scared. Asian elephants? No, they're a little shorter. Asian elephants are shorter.

They're smaller. Just a bit. Yeah, the heads are also shaped differently. and they have a different tusher formation, I think, too. Yeah. But you can get the full-blown African elephant on there, which would make sense. Because then it would, you know,

if it's 4,300 years since this one, it's also not that long a time from an evolution perspective. You know what I mean? I like how they're just saying 100% confirmed. They're really confident. Yeah, the confidence worries me a little bit because, like, when you're making a claim

about one of the ultimate, like, secrets of ancient text and you're just like it's a hundred percent and we haven't even technically taken it out of the cavity yet probably you should back off that a little bit that's what i mean we run too far with this but that certainly looks very very suspect and as i said even looking at kubecki at kubeketepe yeah in in turkey turkey for some reason is one of those places where like yeah a lot's going on and also archaeologists and the whole like

archaeologist industrial complex love telling people to shut the fuck up and not look here and they love saying no nothing to see here when someone finds

something objectively crazy like when we had Hugh Newman in here that episode came out in January yeah you know some of the stuff he's been finding in Turkey like again interpret it as you will but like you can't look at these structures and the different formations

and not say this shit is crazy and old as fuck Yeah. You know, I just, that's one of the strangest things, Deef, that I've seen firsthand doing this podcast for a lot of years now and having some cool people working on archeological digs in here. One of the strangest things to me from like the academic perspective where there's a lot of strange shit, obviously, is the complete ivory tower around trying to find new ancient

discoveries in history. It doesn't mean every time you find something, including this story we just read. like, oh, that definitely means that, like, we have to rewrite everything. Like, yeah, you don't want to run too far with it. But, like, test these things out. Stop being like, no, this is decided science. When? From, you know, 1845 Royal England making a declaration on Egypt?

Yeah. Like, I feel like we've come a little farther with technology then to, you know, since then to make some new conclusions here, no? No, I agree. Got to challenge it. We've got to challenge it. But, you know, whether it's Bonnie Blue, billionaires fucking raping kids on islands and shit, whatever, whatever, you know, the soup de jour of holy shit send the asteroid is, when we start finding some things like the Great Flood Remnant, hard not to ask some tough questions there, Deef. Yeah, I agree.

Right? They're just getting ready to soften the blow. They're getting ready to soften the blow. And maybe on the way to softening the blow, Joey Deve. maybe on the way they got to make sure that we're not all like on to this so

you know I don't know where you guys are watching this right now I know a lot of you watch on your phone which we already know spies on us and stuff but if you're watching us on a TV right now particularly on an LG TV listen up real quick and then I'm going to have some details on this including some denials from LG

But here we go with a little video. We're going to give you Dietz right after this. This LGG5 TV has a microphone connected to it. And right now it's listening to me and saving the information in fact. That's nice. We can even unplug the network. Unplug. And it's still listening to me.

And what I'm saying is being stored by someone with remote access to the TV. And then we were able to extricate that recording via vulnerabilities after the user reconnected the network. We need a front of the sandbox. And it's still listening to me. No network. The next thing is being stored by someone for remote access. This out.

You know how we were talking about AI's escaping the sandbox? Yeah. Now they're putting us in the sandbox. Yeah, it's good. Not now. I mean, they've been doing it. But like at a time where the technology humans are inventing is breaking out, they're calling us in. So I'm going to, I'm going to,

start with the article down lower deep because that's the update we're going to come back to it that's the original story right there so this is September 8th the original story and then September 10th is the response from LG so we're going to be balanced and and give both and then I'll kind of give my thoughts because this was fascinating there's some semantics here let me just explain it then we'll get into it so TV brands tracking user activity to serve targeted ads isn't a new phenomenon but the extent of private information they allegedly collect may worry some TV owners. In investigative video published on Monday, Gamer's Nexus claims the TVs from one of the world's largest and most popular brands, LG, can eavesdrop on users' conversations even when

the screens are turned off. The investigation was carried out with level one techs and other independent researchers, and the resulting video is nearly 135 minutes. In the video, Gamer's Nexus says that while most TV brands collect your viewing data for their automated content recognition systems, LG goes beyond the basics to collect valuable pieces of information, such as your location, IP address, names of nearby Wi-Fi networks, and the names of all devices connected to the same network as your TV. They just want to know what you're doing so they can look in on your safety.

Yeah, and they want to be able to let you know what product you need. That's right. That's right. They are trying to serve you. I don't know what the big is. It is, we are the product. It's all. It's all for us. It's all for us. ACR comes enabled by default on most new TV. So you don't opt. It's defaulted in.

Remember that. Okay. The program logs your viewing habits and sells that data to any third party company that would like to know them. This is where Mike Yagley also comes in a little bit. It's reminiscent. Mike Yagley, we had on episodes 343 and 351. His whole thing, and I highly recommend them.

He's very, very intense and entertaining because of that intensity. He's like, remember that they feel? He's like, yeah, we're fucked. Totally intense. Just like three and a half hours of that. But Mike Yagley was or is a data amalgamation researcher. I'm making up that term. But let me explain what that means.

He got really good at working with large public data sets to be able to get market research, meaning figure out what data on you and me are to that brands can use. And as that technology was progressing when 2010 rolled around 2011, 2012, he suddenly started to look at it and be like, wait a minute. Sitting in my fucking office five feet from my bedroom, I can use perfectly legal public tools to go get all this information on all these people. And this is the fastest growing silent industry filled with companies whose names you. never fucking heard of. And he's like, huh, that seems kind of a little anti-constitutional. So then he goes and he test this out on a major U.S. base.

It was for, was it Fort Dix in Carolina? Yeah. That was what it was. Yeah. And so what he did is he was, again, with perfect, he bought data that was publicly available, nothing illegal whatsoever and tracked all his work so he could show this later. I'll get to that in a second. But he bought data and he started tracking these cell phones around Fort Dix.

I want to make sure we have that right. Can we just Google? Or is it Fort Bragg. It's one of them in Carolina. It's the big one in Carolina. It's the big one in Carolina. So when he finds that. Yeah, it's Fort Bragg.

So he starts to look through all these different iPhones that he's tracking for data marketing purposes. That's what it would be if he were doing it for real. This was just a personal experiment he was doing. And eventually he finds a. subset of them that would drive to this neighborhood that's 45 minutes away and he could track them down to the address. And even before he looked at the names on that address, which a lot of that's publicly available, they hadn't checked on that. He immediately knew that all these people living in this enclave area were from a higher level of the military because the income levels

you would need to afford the mortgages on these homes were not what a standard person in the army would ever be able to afford. And they were farther away from all the local army housing and everything. So he then puts all those phones into a basket. He gets all the date on who they all are. He's then able to track everything their family members are doing and all that just for shits and gigs. But he then watches these same iPhones get on planes and fly over to Syria where they set up under some French fucking front a cement company called LaFarck or something like that and watches them use that as a base clearly for a clandestine mission. So he takes all this data, he don't give it to anyone, obviously, and he goes to the government

and says, yo, fellas, y'all got a fucking problem. You want to hear about your latest, he didn't say what part of the military it was. So I'm going to say maybe it's like Delta Force or Army Rangers or maybe even, even even something that involves, yeah, maybe even something that involves the green brazier. One of them. He's like, do you want to hear about their latest fucking undercover mission and where they all are right now? And he puts live trackers up on the screen in this presentation and shows then the genesis of him getting all that and says, yeah, if I can do this, you think they can't do this in fucking China right now? You think they can't do this in Russia?

You think they can't do this in Ukraine, Iran, anywhere? And so he raised this whole point that like everything we're doing from the phones and then the Bluetooth centers that we're connected to and the things that we constantly have access to technologically. Of course we know they're spying on us, but like the level to which OSENT, meaning like publicly available intelligence can even if they have to purchase some of it, can get access to all that and put it together is insane. So now try to extrapolate that to the government.

Also as a side note, by the way, Mike Yagley was tracking phones in 2019 to fucking Epstein Island, looking at data from like 2016 and 2017, I think it was. And, you know, like he had Bill Gates' phone. And he explained like how he had the data on that. Schmills Schmates, you know, rhymes with Schmell Schmets. And like, that's just a guy in his, office bedroom or bedroom office doing it, which is kind of crazy to think about. But all that to come back to this story because TV, something normal, you think is off or even when it's on,

it's not listening, taking any data. No one can get access to that. Apparently not. So ACR, as I said, comes to enable by default on most new TVs. On LG's Ad Solutions website, the company says it's ACR technology can help advertisers reach 49 million LG Smart TVs in the US and nearly 200, million smart TVs globally. According to the video, what's more concerning is that LG also knows about 363 million secondary devices, phones, computers, iPads, etc., which may include smartphones connected to the same network as the TV. As part of the investigation, these, those at Gamer's Nexus were able to extract the names of the secondary devices, that's nice, as well as transcripts of private conversations people were having around the LGTV. And you saw a quick video demonstration

of that with it unplugged. So unless they're using total slate of hand and completely lying to you in a very public 135 minute video, I'd say that even if they don't have the full picture, they're pretty onto something here. So let's scroll back up deep to what you had originally because this was LG's response, which, you know, spoiler alert, it was basically like, yeah, nothing's here. Don't worry, we're not doing nothing wrong. Just trust us. But they said LG has denied allegations made by a gaming site that it's smart TV eavesdrops on users even after the screen is turned off. Interesting that that's also some language put there. Even after the screen is turned off as if that's what they're saying, well, you know, when it's turned off, it's fine. But, you know,

when it's on. So anyway, the claims made in the recently published video are not true. LG tells CNET, LG's TV's process voice data only when the voice button on the remote control is pressed and held, or when awake words such as high LG is recognized after the user has actually, activated the far field voice recognition feature. I wonder, by the way, Joey Deef, if that includes, like, if I turn on the TV, right, and I activate the voice feature and I say, go to ESPN. If now, once I've done that, and the TV's active and the remote is activated, if that means it's on now so long as the TV's on, meaning like it stays. Yeah. And they, and what they said there, then technically slate a hand language wouldn't be a lie. I think that's what they're doing.

Okay. The video, Joey Deef is on the record. he thinks that's what they're doing. So he's going to check that case out some more, I'm sure. The video in question was published by Gamer's Nexus on Monday. The team claimed by extracted transcripts of conversations captured by the TV's microphone and added that the device logged information about other devices connected to the network. LG says, quote,

its TVs do not collect or record ambient conversations. On the second point, LG says, the ability to scan for and connect to nearby devices on the same network is a standard function commonly provided by smart TVs and smart home devices. I'll bet they're right about that, by the way. To be clear.

But like, that means a problem's wider here. Let's go down. In any case, if you're uncomfortable with LG using your activity data for its automatic content recognition program, which helps advertisers serve targeted ads, you may turn off a setting called Live Plus. And if you guys have an LGTV, listen to this. Head to Settings, General, System, Advanced Settings, Live Plus. But like, we know how weird it is now that, like, my phone, which is,

locked right now. If I say the word, I don't know, with something random. No, Joey D. If I, someone was talking with me earlier about like a Neutrigina skincare product. So I think I'm going to go buy one of those. I'll bet later tonight there's going to be an ad now for like Neutriena. Oh yeah. You know. And Ford F150. Yeah. You guys out there all have this experience where you're like, no, I did not type that in the phone at all. I didn't say that even when the phone was unlocked. It was just sitting in the room and now it's serving me shit. It happens to me when I just think about it sometimes.

That's the creepy one. And I've been testing myself on that because it happens to me too. And then I try to remember like, have I, because I'm thinking about something, have I said that? Yeah, subconsciously. Right? Yeah. It's tough. It's tough.

But like, moral of the story, we're using. we're giving, obviously, all our assets around us up to be able to be data points. And when you see that in context with, you know, the current administration completely enabling AI companies and, you know, surveillance companies to ramp up surveillance techniques via flock cameras, axon cameras, all these other companies, obviously behind it as well, that we've seen explode. Since the Trump administration came in especially, and then you see also like them using the Trojan horse of, I don't know, like no King's

protest to test out things that Palantir is using for predictive policing and shit that's straight out of movies. Then you consider what we all have at home. It's like, man, that privacy feels very gone. And it feels like it's been given to us in a world of convenience to where we almost in some ways to keep up with everyone else, I haven't had a choice, but to check out of that, which seems obviously like a rig system. But I don't know, man. Yeah, I don't feel great about it. I don't feel great about it at all. So check your TVs. Yeah. That's that's kind of the

smash your TV. Smash your TV. That's right. That's the official policy of Joey Deave. Take your TV and smash. Outside. Take the Louisville slugger out. Smash. Yeah. And then stick it in the dumpster and make sure they take it away. And then don't buy a new one. You get one of those big, big fat TVs that we used to have, you know, like the big boxy ones. Yeah, like where the back is really heavy and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's, you talk about not convenient.

We just got to get back to basics. That's the problem. We do have to get back to basics on certain things. And like there's some trends within Gen Z where they want to be more analog on some things. I like that. too. I think getting outside and touching grass quite literally, not a bad thing. Not a bad thing. I read a study, or not a study, it was a fucking tweet. So who knows if this was real? Maybe we can actually fact like this. But I just thought of it. There was some sort of study that came out,

which could mean a lot of things, that people born between the ages of, between the years 1992 and 2003 had the most unique childhood. And when you think about that, 2003 is a little long in the tooth, I think. But like, that range makes sense because those are the ages. And I'm in that range. And you're in that range too, Joe Deef, to where at some point in your childhood when you had the ability to formulate behaviors and make memories, we lived in a world that wasn't completely reliant on iPhones. And even at some point, if you're born in 92, 93, 94,

95, 96, you remember a world where smartphones weren't everywhere too. You know, and people weren't just craned in their phones texting and letting that run their life. And, you know, there was physical cash at places commonly. And people, kids went outside after school and played. Yeah. You know, it was even, you can remember a world kind of pre-eastern. Xbox 360 where you're on the headset. You know, it was like more, hey, if we went inside, we played PlayStation 2, NBA Street Volume 2 or Madden or something like that, and then went outside and did it physically with a football.

Yeah. You know? Play Manhunt and shit. Did you find anything on that study? No, it's not a real study. Damn it. It says it's based off the viral social media post. Damn it.

See, they got me. But I agree. It is unique in the sense that, like, Like I was a beast that like using the computer, but I wasn't on the computer all the time. Like I still like rode my bike and played Manhunt. It's a balance. It did shit like that. Yeah, yeah.

It's a bad. That's how this weekend showed that that was the genesis of this. Joey Deef checked out of the internet for like a month. Yeah. And said, tell me about the Epstein files. I got to do it again soon. Honestly, I'm starting to feel it. It's starting to weigh on me.

It is, I noticed that like when I can have when I get my work done on Sundays and like, then I'm just letting the wash go in the late afternoon. When I can have that Sunday reset of like just reading a book on the Kindle or something like that. And the phone is just away. And the one time a week where I'm not looking through content and shit like that and looking through video edits with Danny or going through production schedule or setting up thumbnails or all that shit. Like my Monday morning is much more fucking like jump out of bed. let's go. Like I did that yesterday and this morning I was fucking ready to go. And they're, I'm sorry. I don't have to look at science. Neither does anyone else out there. You know what I'm

talking about is just it has to do with like neuroplasticity and everything and your brain being active on something that's not just feeding it bullshit all the time. Yeah. We got to stay with that. So good, good on seeing some of the trends of Gen Z really working on that, which I'm sure means I shouldn't say I'm sure. I have a feeling that we'll see. maybe even some bigger trends of nostalgia for things that never existed for them in Gen Alpha that's coming up who are completely growing up in a world that is fully encapsulated by iPhones and screens. Yeah.

And if they'll be curious about a world where, you know, they can have some time to not do that. Yeah, we'll see. And then you got to fight against you, you saw that fucking get together in D.C. this weekend. You know what I'm talking about, the Data Center get together? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you got shit like that, which is just like you want to talk about being disconnected. A bunch of fucking political executives or whatever you want to say, skewing towards younger ages, congressional staffers type people and stuff like that, gathering in the biggest cesspool in America known as Washington, D.C., to have a brand and also think tank sponsored fucking rager.

air quotes there over like building more data centers. I watched a few of the, and I actually knew a couple people that went to that who were going to be getting a phone call from me, at least one of them as. But like I watched some of the videos from this event and I watched them a couple times because I was certain I'm like,

that has to be a troll. That can't be real. And then I watched them a couple times through. I'm like, no, they're dead. They're a little hammered, but like they're dead serious. To be clear. Okay, I understand. Like, I'm on YouTube. I'm on Spotify. I understand like data centers have existed. And, you know, things like this are literally stored on stuff like that. I'm not one of these guys that like, none of this should exist. We should totally get off the internet and shit like that. We should be able to innovate. We should be able to do things that, you know, allow America to also be like a leader in things. Where I take issue with stuff like this and it's a very reasonable conversation is that suddenly they are,

looking to build hundreds of these monstrosities overnight immediately, far past, far far past the supply that China is, who also has a bigger population than us, taboo. Far past that to where people are building it, and obviously a stereotypical one was the proposed 62 square mile one, the Kevin O'Leary built, but they're building these things out in nature, completely taking away from America's like natural assets, if you will fucking over the water supplies that the same people were lecturing us on about climate change for the last two decades, by the way. And they're going to be lent and they're going to be leased out to like the worst tenets of big tech, the open AIs, the palanteers and shit like that,

who know I don't trust with my data, right? Like obviously they have they have failed a lot of these tests and they're being shoved down people's throats to the point that basically money is coming in and influencing two or three fucking councilmen in certain places who vote behind closed doors while they're claiming to represent the people to say, yeah, bringing a data center that's also bringing no jobs and sucking up all the resources. So yeah, I do have a problem with the extent of that build. And to see a bunch of congressional staffers who are probably all fucking each other, good for them. I don't judge. You know, God bless America. You know, gathering in a bar in D.C., sponsored by think tanks to fucking drink the night away and say let's build more AI because we got to beat

China, which you've heard me talk about in the last episode, by the way. I keep the China thing in the back of my mind for sure. But like this is not the way. And it is certainly another example of like as someone who is literally from the coast my entire life. I am born and raised in New Jersey. So are you, Joey Deve. Yes.

This is a prime example of the quote unquote like coastal, elite thought process versus the rest of America and the coastal elite people in, you know, a city somewhere like Washington, D.C., if you even want to call it that, are deciding that they know best and shut the fuck up. And it's the young people doing it. That really left it. It's like, it's like, dude, you, like I'm seeing 23, 24, 25, 28 year olds there, all fucking shilling this stuff. I'm like, that's what you're doing. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool to them. They rock the Palantir gear and shit. Yeah.

It's, well, Joey Deef, it's gay. I mean, I agree. And I just, too much too fast. Too much too fast. And I'm never going to apologize for saying, let's chill on it. Again, it's a balance. You know, for us to have certain conveniences in life. Like, yeah, you can have them.

But you know what? As someone who lives in Hoboken, right by New York City, build some of the shit in the city or something. And I live here. And I'm not even advocating for that. But I'm like, do that before you build it in the middle of some beautiful fucking mountain range. Yeah, I mean, they, they, I'd rather see them destroy like 40 second street and build a data center there. Yes, if I had my druthers.

Like, like, like, sucks there. Yeah. Like, I don't, I don't want to see like these picturesque places totally blown up, you know? And yeah Or they should run the data centers All the people who attended that party Should have to run the data center So then when like it starts to go south

And the robots start like screaming That they want to kill us all They got to be our front lines That's right That's right So they can put their money where their mouth is And I think that's fair Fight the robots on our behalf

Yeah You know what actually if they're willing to do that Then have that I'll change my opinion on them Yeah I'll change my opinion Because they will They will bravely

sacrifice themselves to try to save humanity. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's fair. I see that. I think that's fair. That's the script writer and you're looking at the villain hero arc. I like that. It's honestly just the businessman and me. The business.

Cause, you know, because it's just like, let's just do good biz. You guys want to ruin the world? All right. For your first line of defense. Great. Great. But yeah, I did have some good conversations with some people offline, including some people I know, who were, you know, agree with me on a lot of the, a lot of the issues we talk about on this show, but they were like some of the data center stuff feels like it's also like just total anti-technology. And I was like, no, no, no.

It is, it's about the semantics of how this is happening, the speed and the people doing it, and us all righteously having a real problem with that to be a check to the balance and say, slow the fuck down and who are we giving this power to and why is kevin o'leary you know the fucking shark tank guy investing in utah so that he can sell off you know the lease space to fucking peter teal like yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna be like hit the chill pill on that and i'll make no apologies for that which by away Kevin O'Leary. Still an open invite. You're more than welcome to come on. I think he did decline. It's fair to say, Joe. Well, but he's a coward. I liked him in Marty Supreme. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I liked him in Marty Supreme. He did a nice job there. I'll give him that. He did crush it, dude. He did crush it in that film. You always, you got to call it like you see it. He did crush it in that film. Maybe he should do more acting and less data centering. Yeah. Just a food for thought. Yeah. You know? Like,

I could get behind the acting. It felt like he was kind of playing himself a little bit. I don't know if that's a compliment. But, you know, certainly knocked it out of the park. Well, it did well. Four and a half gold stars. But Joey Defe, there is a story. I've been waiting, waiting with bated breath to get to this one.

There's a story that went really under the radar. That like, talk about script writers. You couldn't make this one up. And I haven't told you about this one yet. You're going to find out about this for the first time. Hit me. But if you heard about this guy, and let me just make sure I pronounce this correctly, which means I'm definitely not going to. Leopold Ashenbrenner. The German.

The German. Yes. You haven't heard about him. Okay. Let's talk about Leopold. Because right now, Leopold is still running a multi, multi-billion dollar AI-themed hedge fund. but there's a lot more to this story that is very incestuous as well, if you might say. So Leopold Ash and Brunner definitely not retarded. I'll give him that. He's reckless very clearly, but he's not retarded. He went to Columbia and was the valedictorian graduating at age 19. So I have to say he's definitely got a brain up there to be able to do that.

props to him for that. But, you know, I think sometimes Joey Diff, especially like if you may be smart on the IQ scale, but you're young and then you're also like kind of ahead of the curve, so you get a real big head about it, which he does appear to have a pretty big head. But, you know, I think sometimes that can put you in a bad position, especially when you're even younger than you're supposed to be getting out of college, to make some really dumb decisions or even maybe think you know how the world works before you have. actually get a chance to find out. You think it's probably fair to say? I think that's fair. Yeah,

it's fair to say. That's fair. So Leopold comes out of college, not the closet. And you know where he worked, Joey Deef? Orkel. It's worse. It's actually way worse.

16Z or whatever. It is significantly worse than that. I'm going to give you a hint. I'm going to give you a hint real quick. At Columbia. and I'm reading this part straight from CIAedia. While at Columbia, he co-founded the university's effective altruism chapter. You remember that movement? The effective altruism.

Oh, so FTX? He did work at FDX. Wow. I'm going to get to the deeds of that in a second. But effective altruism is like this weird fucking fake psychedelic, you know, and not like actual psychedelic, but like they feel important movement that was emanating. out of Silicon Valley, especially in the aughts and the 2010s, where all these like kind of autistic Silicon Valley types were talking about using technology that serves humanity to

potentially be the best. Can you actually pull up the definition of it just so that people fully understand, so I explain it correctly. But it was essentially like hiding more, hiding keyboard tyranny behind the mask of morality. That's how I would describe it. But effective altruism is a philosophical and social movement that uses evidence and careful, it's not just reasoning, it's careful reasoning to find the most effective ways to help others and maximize positive impact. It's even written like a true artist, right? Like maximize positive impact. It's not like, let's make people happy or whatever. You know, we have to solve for maximizing positive impact.

Yeah. Like, it's just, I cringe when I hear stuff like that. And there's been so many people over the years who, like, claim to adhere to this and then turn out to be kind of monsters. I want to say, I don't want to give Stolen Baller here. I don't want to give a claim against someone I already don't like very much. That's wrong. Can you just Google real quick, Joey Deef, if Sam Altman has ever commented on effective

altruism. I'm trying to think if I'm getting him mixed up with someone else on this. Sam Altman famously remarked about the movement. I used to be annoyed at being the villain of the EA's until I met their heroes. So yeah, he's a fan. Okay. My point exactly right there. So some of the worst people you know, some of the more psychopathic people that claim to be, you know, they talk in a soft tone like, yeah, you know, we're solving to maximize positive outcomes for people. And, you know, that's really all we're trying. I mean, this is how Sam Altman talks, but, you know, behind it, it doesn't seem like he's doing a lot of things that are great for humanity. It doesn't seem to care that much about the impact of what his tools may or may not do.

In this case, I should say may do that's very negative for humanity, including for the future of the population itself. But that's neither here nor there. So this guy Leopold founds the chapter of effective altruism, Columbia, which already should have been a big fucking red flag. But on top of that, as Joey Dief said, joined FTX after he left college. So he specifically joined the FTX Future Fund team in February 2020, straight from CIAPedia right here. The team was part of the FTX Foundation, which is the philanthropic arm of crypto exchange FTX and provided grant funding for research topics that would quote, improve humanity's long-term prospects, unquote, which, you know,

improving humanity's long-term prospects, that sounds fucking great, Joey Deef. Yeah, I'm on board. This is a part of like a great way to explain this is Edward Snowden's old explanation of the Save the Puppies Act. Whenever you see like an act passed in Congress that sounds like, oh my God, how could you ever vote against that? It's so like everyone can get behind that just by the name. He's like, those are usually the most dangerous acts.

Think of the Patriot Act, right? So he's a part of this, this FTCX foundation, the team that's on the FtX Foundation, Ashen Brunner ended up resigning a long time alongside other team members on November 11, 2022, the same day FTX filed for bankruptcy. That's what you got to do, Joe, D. If you get off the sinking ship when you're lost at sea, and I can't even blame for that. But he also resigned with the woman who would become his future wife. Nice.

Who I'm going to get to their lovely wedding that they had in August. That's coming. But do you know where she works now, Joey Dief? No, where? So, Avidol Balwit, that's her name. Fellow researcher at the Future Humanity Institute and later join AshtraBrunner as a member of FDX Future Fund team.

After they resign, she later became the chief of staff to the CEO of Anthropic. Nice. They all know each other. They all fuck each other. They're all a part of the same little fucking club. And you, me, and all of us aren't fucking in it. So they're at FTX.

They get off the sinking ship. Where do you think Leopold went after that, Joey Deef? I don't know. Maybe he went to like a startup or a small company builder from the ground up. Right. You would think like, you know, you'd take some time off. Your personal brand's not doing too great. haven't worked at the biggest fucking fraud outlet in modern history right now.

Yeah. But no, he landed on his feet. He went to Open AI. Nice. Went to Open AI. And he was working on some projects there. And this is where it gets weird. So at some point in 2024, he was fired.

And when he was fired, he was a part of the team with Ilya Sutskever, I think his name is, who ended up also. He was like a high up guy at OpenAI. I might have been a co-founder. Don't quote me on that. but Ilya in 2024 was also removed from the company because he had concerns that emanated to all the way back to like Sam Altman as a guy running the company. But Leopold worked on his team and was fired and claims that it was retribution for leaking an internal report that something about it had been made public. It was a little murky. Like it was a he said, he said, she said, and then the company said, no, that's not why it was fired.

but he says when they met with him and fired him, that's why they fired him. But he had written this paper called something along the lines of like situational awareness for the future of AI, something like that. And so the paper went really viral because it broke down all of the supply chain effectively that went in, that goes into creating AI and therefore what industries are going to have like the biggest push over the next decade while the AI industry. is being created, like who's going to profit off of that that you could invest in if you're a potential, you know, stock investor. And so as a result, a bunch of finance guys looked at this

young, former valedictorian from Columbia who just left open AI and said, Leopold, you're going to start a hedge fund. So they spin them up with this hedge fund. And at the VC intern did a really good breakdown of what happened to this hedge fund in 2026. Again, what could possibly go wrong when you got a 24, 25 year old kid suddenly managing billions of dollars in assets with no previous experience investing? I could think of a thing or 10. Anyway, so from at the v. V.V.D underscore VC underscore intern. Guess we're arriving in Carmel for Leopold Ash and Brenner's wedding while banks were preparing to liquidate his hedge fund. I said I would get to his wedding while his hedge fund was like, basically going belly up.

I'm going to explain the details with this tweet in a second. The dude was getting married in some lavish marriage ceremony at the beginning of August. Perfectly going through with it, didn't delay it, didn't move it back, while people were losing their ass

to the tune of $35 billion more on that in a second. Just, you know, kind of interesting optics right there. Situational awareness had started July with roughly $45 billion and it gained

439% in six months. I'll give them this. That's impressive. 439% and 6 months is really good. What it does do, though, you know, you basically spin up this hedge fund. You're suddenly making 5x returns in the first six months of it. You get a big head and you start making bets. And from every story I've ever followed on Wall Street of people who fall,

they get a big head and they start making bets. They start gambling with usually with other people's money, including their own. So they had gained 439% in six months. Ashenbrenner was 24, had never managed money before 2025, and it built one of Wall Street's fastest growing funds by turning his AI essay into a portfolio, going long memory checks, chips, meaning investing in them, data centers and power, short software companies, he expected AI to commoditize. Much of that exposure was financed with borrowed money. So he's levering up money, which is very similar to what the banks did during the housing crisis when they were just betting on all these

fucking terrible jumbo mortgages. So when AI stocks reversed, falling prices reduced the collateral supporting those loans. Banks demanded more cash, so they're asking for their reserves to come back in. Selling stocks push prices lower, which produce more margin calls, so he's getting called to have to produce even more money in liquidate. And Ash and Brunner later compared it to a bank run. Situational reportedly spent about 24 hours finding one buyer for roughly $16 billion worth of public equities. Ken Griffin's Citadel took the leverage book in a block trade while wedding guests gathered in California.

If you remember, Ken Griffin and Citadel were the firm on the other side of the trade, one of the firms, involved on the other side of the trade in the Robin Hood height in January 2021. So Ken comes back around again. Clean cut. Clean cut. Save the day. A little 16, Billy for the boys.

And says, I'll take this off your hand, Leo. A planned sale of $3.5 billion in anthropic shares was abandoned. Situational kept its private holdings and removed all leverage from what remained. July's losses reached 67%, which is about the same number as the full losses of the financial crisis from an S&P 500 perspective in 2008, 2009. Just, you know, for people keep its scores at home. He did that in one month. Here is the absurd arithmetic. $100 invested at the beginning of 2026 became $500,000.

By June. Losing 67% reduced it to about 178. One of the most dramatic hedge fund collapses in years still left early investors roughly 80% ahead for the year. The later investors, which is most of them, by the way, have been fucked and liquidated to the tune of billions of dollars across them. Just to be clear. So the earliest people are doing okay. And apparently the earliest people do okay in a Ponzi scheme, they have to fucking time too. So that's neither here nor there. But recovering, and I love this line that this guy put in here because this is like so true and people don't think about this. Recovery from a 67% loss requires a 203% gain. I remember when I worked back on Wall Street, one of the things I would always say to people when we were talking about like risk with investments

is that I'd be like, all right, if you have $100 and you lose 50%, how much do you have? And they'd say 50 bucks. And I say, now what percentage do you have to gain to get back to even to 100? They'd look up and they'd be like, 50, 100%. I say, yeah, you get more

hurt on the downside than you do help on the upside. That's like one of the things like comes back

to even like just a broad base old cliche quote of like takes money to make money. Right? So

lose money make less too. So this guy basically fucked over all these people and was having a fire

sale on the back end getting bailed out literally by people like Ken Griffin and still went ahead

with his that weekend. I don't know what his personal net worth is and everything, but I guarantee you, garrent fucking to you, he is still worth in the tens of millions of dollars. Maybe hundreds. I can't. That's pure spec. I don't know. He's still got his lavish lifestyle and everything. And you would think after such an event like this that required private, basically like, for lack of a better way of putting it, private lenders, so to speak, that's not what they are. But like people like Ken Griffin to come in to liquidate and like clean this guy up, you would think that that might trigger something like, you know, some sort of like they have like that stop loss kind of trigger in a stock market

sometimes when some news triggers have run on a stock and then they stop it from trading. You would think maybe they'd be like, yo, yeah, this head's fine. You can't do anything. He can't do it. He just put another 400 to 500 million in private investment in something the other day. We're in September October now. Like, again, for the 50th million time, it's a big club. You and I are not in it.

I mean, that is, Dief, that is fucking wild that he can get away with that. Yeah, and it says that his net worth is estimated between 300 million and 1.6 billion. Okay, yeah, so he is in the hundreds of millions. He's doing all right. And that's an estimation, but he's not missing no meals. right the current status to fund shrank this is straight from google a i the fund shrank to roughly 10 billion exited the public equities market entirely and shifted its focus to remaining private investments such as a stake in anthropic which is a public company i believe right am i

fucked up right anthropics fully public right yeah i think so the securities and exchange commission it's not it's not oh they they have an IPO coming up that's what it is right that that's that's That's why I'm thinking of that. So the Securities and Exchange Commission don't know where they've been on this, but apparently they're looking into it. They got their people on it. They subsequently opened an inquiry into the trading practices and leverage utilized by the fund in its rapid rise and near collapse.

Can we actually, I think I got rid of that link. Can you just type this in real quick so I make sure I have this right? Did Leopold Ash and Brunner recently invest in some more private holdings? saw something when I was looking through this earlier, and I think I just forgot to screenshot it where he just put another four or five hundred million in. I want to make sure I get that right. Yep. Okay. So Leopold Asherbruner's hedge fund situational awareness recently made a $400 million investment into an undisclosed private company. It's the best kind, right? Undisclosed. Don't tell anyone what it is. Perfect. The $400 million of private equity infusion closed in

early August, right around the time of his wedding, too, after the run on the bank. It followed a previous 100 million dollar stake the fund had taken in the same undisclosed company the month prior bringing their total commitment to 500 million because that's what you do when you lose everyone fucking 203% or whatever it was overnight 35 billion you make sure you take your previous investments where you put 10 bucks on fucking red and now you put 40 you quint you quadrupled down baby happened right after that and that's how you got to catch up the move came immediately after the fund narrowly avoided collapse and sold off the bulk of its public tech equities portfolio to Griffin Citadel following steep market routes and margin calls in July 2026.

I'm all for people starting their own companies, trying to build their businesses, you know, get success or whatever. A 24-year-old with no previous investment experience whatsoever coming from a totally separate world starting a hedge fund that raises for 45 billion dollars worth including in gains. So it didn't raise that. It raised, you know, whatever it was. 15 billion or something like that, 10 billion in year one seems like something that should probably be a little bit regulated around or mark off some areas of being forced to be in given some

private scrutiny. You know, like one of the things that really frustrated me when I worked at Bank of America, Merrill Lynch right out of college, is that I used to joke with people. You had to asked permission for toilet paper to take a shit. And the reason for that was in the post-financial crisis world of 0809, where to be clear, banks fucked everyone, including Bank of America, including Merrill Lynch, which Bank of America bought in a fire sale during the whole fucking thing because they had torn it up in all the wrong ways in the housing market. The problem with the whip them a roll on that is that the banks, the sections of the banks that fuck this up. First of all, those people should have all gone to prison. That's number one.

None of that ever happened. As far as I know, not one person went to prison who did that. Secondly, the real estate companies they worked with like the Angelo Mosillo or whatever, like, I forget what company, countrywide, whatever it was. Like those guys should have all gone to prison. The dudes you saw testifying from the credit swap teams, including that French guy from Goldman Sachs, All those people should have gone to prison. The bank should have been regulated like crazy on proprietary trading because if you don't know the history, when Glass Stegle, and it's been a while since I looked at this, so I'm going to keep it really broad. When Glass Steegel was brought in his legislation in, I believe, 1934 when the Great Depression happened,

the whole point was to keep the banks from using their money to make bets on the market when they would need to have a certain amount that could actually fulfill customers if they wanted to take out money. Because a big problem in the Great Depression is people went to take their money out of the bank and none of it was left there because the banks had used the money. Right. So that's my finance people in the comment sections, please for the love of God, clean that up right now because I'm doing this off the gander without having looked at this in a while. But in I believe 1998 or 1999, Bill Clinton effectively repealed Glass-Steagle. And this was after Blythe Masters basically was like the godmother of, I believe, CDOs credit default swaps in,

I want to say, like, 1994 at J.P. Morgan, and it was starting to spread on Wall Street. And so when Clinton repealed that, which I'm sure, Joey Deef, he definitely wasn't lobbied to do that. They would never do that. No, that was that he made that. Yeah, he just made that call on his own, obviously, because, you know, Bill's a great trader, I'm sure. But anyway, so when he repealed that, It basically allowed the banks to start betting on this like crazy. And that's how you led to the next eight years of like one page sign right here mortgages sold by guys like Tim Dillon. hilarious stories.

If you never heard Tim tell those stories about his days of mortgage broker. But like, you know, you'd have someone walk in on $45,000 worth of income buying a house for $1.4 million where the rate's going to fucking jump three years in and it's going to explode. And of course, nothing's going to happen. But they were incentivized to do that because the mortgage company, again, it's been a while since I look at this, would basically just sell off that fucking asset to the banks real quick who would take a bunch of assets like that, put it all up together and sell that as like an investment to a bunch of people, including pension funds and

major investment houses that was later going to blow up once no money came in from the mortgages to where people couldn't pay it. And then the losses were going to come on the investors, which is exactly what happened. It was predatory, it was criminal, it was wrong, It should have been regulated like shit, like crazy. The fucking people that ran those teams should have gone to jail. The CEOs, it wasn't all of them as far as I know. But like some of the CEOs, like the guy, well, was it Dick Fold? I believe that was actually his name.

Definitely. Can we check that? Is it Dick Fold, F-U-L-D from Lehman Brothers? Like that guy should have gone to jail because he was fully aware of what they were doing on that team. Obviously, banks are big places. He never went to jail, though. He never went to jail. Guys like that all should have gone to jail and those teams almost like shouldn't have been allowed to exist at all, let alone trade on proprietary money.

But what ended up happening is the regulation went to the entire banks, which the reason we had an issue with this in certain places is because it was awful for the customers of banks. It made their lives hell because they couldn't do anything without us having to do 47 million things behind the. scenes on stuff that had nothing to do with mortgages, nothing to do with any of that shit. I will say when I would work a couple times I worked on mortgages for people and it was a pain in the ass. But that was one thing where when I was working on, I'm like, this is actually good. Like, this is how it should be because I know what this did. And I could see the due diligence that was required from like a K.C, know your client perspective that would go into a mortgage to prevent you selling predatory mortgages.

and like that's where it worked. But then like, you know, I couldn't text a client like on a daily basis to like say, hey, what's up or something? Like shit like that. Like they'd have regulation like that. And it was crazy for banks. Then you see things like this pop up. And you see guys I've had on the podcast warning about like an AI bubble

that could be very much like a dot-com bubble where a lot of these companies end up being worth nothing, which could be coming and could blow up. up the stock market and stuff. And you are going to see these, the government's not doing anything about it now when they should be, but as always, the government's then going to be forced to react afterwards and they're going to make your life as a customer more miserable on basic deposits and shit that has nothing to do with this because people like this are allowed to operate with impunity. That's why I look at this and my blood fucking boils. So shout out Leon Pold Ash and Brenner

or whatever the fuck your name is. I'm sure you have to have. the best of intentions you affect the altruist, but no one's really talking about that story. And even though he's not investing in public companies, he's still managing billions of dollars worth of private assets. And, you know, hopefully the SEC is doing something there, but it doesn't sound like there's much in that whole way, because that story, by the way, dropped at the beginning of August. And you haven't heard he's operating as usual. He might have even gone on his fucking honeymoon.

I don't know. I don't know. I can neither confirm or deny that. I have no idea. That's pure spec. But like, kind of interesting. We're letting that one fly under the radar, no? Yeah.

It's like they don't read the room. It feels like we say that every week. And it feels like we're right every week. Yeah, well. You know? Yeah, well. All right. So the other thing I wanted to talk about is,

so Fern on YouTube put out a really solid 20-minute video on the polymarket influencer campaign. and I had talked about this with you guys a couple times in the late spring, early summer. So for people who didn't see that, I talked about it on, I talked about it on the episode with Louis Ruggiero, who was talking about his gambling addiction and the predatory nature of the gambling companies and stuff. And that was when I mentioned that the month before I had called up our brand company and said, hey, any gambling company's coming in, we're not doing it. We're not

doing it. We had done a handful of them over a couple years. It was usually like prize picks or draft kings and I never thought anything of it. Because I don't have that gene. Like that thing to go bet five bucks on like where the dog's going to take a shit across. Like I don't do that.

You know, like prize picks would send me the thing and I'd get a $5 play or whatever and click the one and be like oh, cool. And that's it. You know? like it's just not my thing and I'm somebody who believes in markets being pretty free and people being able to have free will to make their decisions and stuff like that and I've been like that across the board on a lot of stuff but what I realized is that in speaking with a lot of people

so many unfortunately like do have that gene of like I want to I want to go do this and this phone giving such ubiquitous access now through all these fucking apps from polymarket on fucking betting on anything to draft kings betting on sports or whatever it's like a crackhead having crack in their pocket at all times and when I do an ad for it I'm enacting like seriously like that crack feeling I was like I don't want to do this it's crazy it's absolutely crazy and so they had even sold some prize pick ads like the middleman ad marketing company I work with who brings brand deals. They had sold, I don't know how many, but a handful of them throughout the year, it canceled all of them. And I think that's going to be a

really good long-term call. I do think there's something to be said for the fact that perhaps like in a legalized gambling society, if you're going to have free markets like that, it would be much better if we legalized it where you had to be in a casino rather than being able to bring it on the phones and stuff. That is something I'm really, really coming around on talking to a lot of people. And so Fern did this great video about how Polymarket is just integrating the normalcy of just betting on fucking anything into these influencer campaigns, which includes huge names from LeBron James to Aidan Ross to Nick Shirley across the board. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people in podcasting and stuff. And like, I don't want to, I don't want to just start,

like, attacking people and stuff. Because, like, in the past, I looked at some of these ads and didn't think anything. But what I would say is that now there's been more public awareness on this, especially for people like me who aren't into that stuff and are learning from people who are that like I would highly recommend unsolicited advice here that if you got a platform out there, I don't care what industry it is within content, you take a look at this stuff and you think about what you're selling and you think about what it's doing to society and you think about what kind of impact that's having on, especially like young men and stuff. You know, you go to fucking, you hear about guys like working birthday parties and there's a bunch of

13 year olds playing fucking draft kings. Yeah. I've been that dude. I've been that. You've been that. Not the 13 year old gambling, but I've worked birthday parties like that. You've seen that stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. And like that, that's not cool. And so Fern did this great video where he talked about how like polymarking. is cheating the market. First of all, I think it's like around 80% of users on Polymarket are complete losers, meaning like they lose money to the app, which again, the house is rigged against you. The only game I played growing up was holding poker because it's the one fucking game the casino doesn't play against you on.

If you're in there, they take a 1 to 2% rake each hand. They don't give a fuck who wins. You play the man. I never played blackjack. I never played slots because like I know mathematically it's rigged. against you and that's the same thing they're doing with this app. But what they're also doing is they're starting these sock puppet campaigns to get around the advertising disclosure where they're paying clipping networks effectively to make content on accounts that are not

named anything after polymarket or whatever and just show bets they're doing, which includes fake videos. Like they showed a fake video of a kid who said he bet $100 on whether or not Trump was going to say McDonald's. a speech and he reacts live, air quotes, to like a speech happening. And it turns out that speech was three months before. And the bet in question was happening that week. So it's like they're lying as well. And I do think it's disappointing when all these major people, you know, like I'm a fan

of LeBron James, the basketball player. And sometimes I think people give him too much shit for some stuff or whatever. I don't watch the guy to care about like whether his opinions are all right. But like he's a billionaire. He's a literal billionaire. And like, you know, he's headlined in a huge campaign for polymarket. Still is an active NBA player, by the way. Weird.

Dumb. Not worth it. Don't know who's advising him. Stop doing that. Like, I think this year's been a real wake-up call with that. And Fern really, really put this together. You know, there's also the insider trading aspect of it as well. I think I

there was I don't want to say the name because I don't remember exactly which influencer it was and I don't want to mess it up but like one of the major influencers apparently was caught on video talking about how he can get all this information ahead of time himself and be able to bet on this

this isn't like insider trading with like quarterly reports for stocks which is like no gray area it just kind of is what it is right and even that like that gets weird sometimes too that's a separate rabbit hole But this is like just regular information happening outside. You know a speechwriter for some politician that has a bet on whether or not he's going to mention a topic and you're like, yo, is he going to say it? And you bet on it. Fucking anyone can know that speechwriter. How the hell are, you know, government entities even going to investigate this stuff? The only case I've even seen get prosecuted is one of the guys who was betting on the Delta thing with Venezuela earlier this year, which now apparently. is getting fought in court and, you know, maybe the charges will get dropped.

I haven't looked at that in a few weeks. But like, none of these people are getting rusted. Every time Donald Trump moved the markets with oil and whatever with the war, people were betting way ahead of time because they clearly had information that he was going to say things that turned out to not be true about the war in the oil markets that then they made millions of dollars on. And did I mention Joey Deef? Did you see Draft Kings too?

What about it? Like a few days ago, the investigation that they're using AI to target like the losers to keep gambling more. New York Times was... That's predatory. I don't know why that's legal. That shouldn't be legal. That should not be legal.

It's totally predatory, man. But did I tell you that Donald Trump Jr. is on the advisory board of Polly Market? And that his company's 1789 capital backs it. No way. And his father is the president of the United States who's seen more insider polymarket trades

happen on his watch. That's so wild. Then I can even fucking count. That's insane. Again, for like the fifth time today, it's a big club and you and I ain't in it. So they're using fake sock puppet accounts to get around FEC advertising regulations. They're having influencers lie on those videos. They're trying to integrate gambling into every part of life.

Nick Shirley's doing fraud investigations and then wearing a polymarket sweatshirt and telling people that they can bet on the outcomes of political stuff while he's doing an investigation into people who are defraud. people when the gambling company here is also defrauding people with like hidden ads and stuff. I don't know. The irony kind of rights itself. You know? And none of these people, as far as I know, are being investigated or going to prison. It's unreal. They're also using like third party companies for legalization in the U.S.

The main international polymarket platform is blocked for U.S. users, but a federally regulated U.S. version operates legally in most states. That's like, that's like saying it wasn't sex because I was wearing a condom. Like, what the fuck are we talking about here? So polymarket remains clothes only or blocked from U.S. Internet Protocol IP addresses following a 22 settlement with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. A separate federally regulated platform called Polymarket U.S. operates under CFTC oversight. via an acquired designated contract market. The U.S. platform is legal in over 40 states,

though availability continues to face state-level legal challenges and lawsuits from local regulators who argue prediction markets amount to unlicensed gambling. For instance, states like New York had filed lawsuits to block operations locally, and availability excludes states like Nevada. Good for them. Good, good for some states, like looking at it.

I was contacted, I didn't tell you this, Steve. I shall remain nameless, but. someone with a really big following who I like who's a friend contacted me because Polymarket was trying to go around my company and get in touch with me to do a campaign I was like brother easy out here I've very publicly committed to not doing any gambling companies whatsoever and like that's also you know things move fast behind the scenes and you're constantly blocking and tackling especially like you know we got a real underdog kind of thing here with very small team and everyone's doing a great job and it's kind of all hands on deck at all times

and that's how it's been for six and a half years for me personally with this you know things can fall through the cracks sometimes but what i do really hold myself to account on is when i start to like be able to zoom out on some things and say hey that looks off i don't like that and there's something in your gut that's like yeah no no no that's that's not good you know i got to be able to go to bed at night and I looked myself in the mirror. And if I were doing ads for companies like this, I would not be able to do that, period. And that's why it got to that point in April. I was like, before this starts becoming like a regular thing, this is this has got to go. And we really do, we do have to look at this. And I do think, I think you do have to prosecute people at these

companies who are coming up with these schemes to get around regulations to put this stuff in society. If I wanted to destroy the future of a society, I would get young men addicted to porn and gambling, send them to colleges where their degree doesn't matter on nothing but unforgivable debt that they can't pay off so they can get dead-end jobs if they even get employed at something that's not Starbucks afterwards. And that would lead to them being depressed, lonely, unable to get women, unable to procreate, have no future. and create a society where the genders are at war with each other because they blame each other's problems on each other at all times because the algorithms also push that. That's what I would do. So, yeah, anything associated with any of those things, you're not going to see us back in here. Period.

Full stop. End of story. But polymarket, cali, all of them. Look at it. And I hope some of these influencers also really take a step back like I did and think these things through. You know, it's like, you know, this is why we can't have nice things. Yeah. You can't find a proper balance with stuff.

Yeah. You know, you want to take the effort to go to a casino and, you know, lose some money on blackjack and get fucked up and go to the club. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. but when it comes to being able to do it at all times of the day no matter what i don't think that is a good idea it's not going to serve society well it's not a good idea joey diff go get some

vitamin c my friend i'm gonna i'm gonna you've been banked up for a little while playing injured as fuck knocking it out of the park it's all right we're almost on the other side of this that's right go throw joey dif a follow on instagram at joey dv on instagram at toke malone on X, great follow on X, by the way. Great time. He's playing injured here for the love of the game and for the love of you, the people. And we love him for it. Yeah,

it's my fucking honor and privilege. I'd do it again and again if I had to. But yeah. God damn right. All right, everybody else. We'll see you next week. That said, give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace. Peace. What's up, guys? Thanks so much for watching the video. If you have not subscribe,

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