Julian Dorey Podcast - [VIDEO] - Mormon US Border Reporter Exposes Chinese ESPIONAGE | Nick Shirley • 214

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

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Every person that comes across the border has paid cartel. The cartel controls the border. The coyotes. The coyotes. So each person is paying anywhere from $5,000 to $20,000 across the border. Yeah, if someone's coming from like middle of Mexico to get to New York City, it's like $15,000 or something like that on average? Yeah.

And before, because I've also spoken with an ex-cartel member, and before all this open border stuff happened, like they would smuggle the migrants through like secret entry points. And then from there, they'd pay for a fee to be taken to another city. So they'd have, like, the cartel members here in the United States take them to a safe house. And then the safe house people would then help them get on a bus to, like, New York City or something like that. But now the U.S. government's just doing it. They take them to a safe house, like, run by their same people.

Yeah. So the cartel has these little spots. And not necessarily a cartel, but they're being paid by the cartel. These people would get smuggled over in these secret entry points. Like in Laredo, Texas, there's a spot where you get smuggled over, and then you can go down into a tunnel and pop out at a mall. Pop out at a mall? Yeah, like the tunnel pops out at the mall. In the mall or right outside?

Right outside. What's up, guys? If you're on Spotify right now, please follow the show so that you don't miss any future episodes and leave a five-star review. Thank you. So you're a Mormon. I am. How does that happen? Well, I'm actually – we refer to ourselves as members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but now it's like – that's something I kind of knew that's been happening over the past couple years but yeah i always tell people um when they ask yes i am a mormon yeah why why'd they why'd they change that i think it's just because there's so many different

ways in the ways it's perceived and we're not we don't want to be known as like mormons because mormon was a prophet in our in the book of mormon which we believe in but we're followers of jesus christ uh as members of the Church of Jesus Christ. Right. What was his name? Like Joseph Smith? Yeah, Joseph Smith. And what was his story there?

What happened again? Yeah, so essentially Joseph Smith, he was a young man looking for like the truth in the times like 1820, 1830s area. And he was looking for like the true church. And he couldn't ever find it. And he went at set of prayer. And then he went to the woods and said a prayer. And in that moment, Jesus Christ and God revealed themselves to him. No shit. Yeah.

Are we sure about that? I am. All right. It takes everybody to earn their own testimony. And it's kind of controversial, too, because it's like when did – most people don't have a hard time believing that God and Jesus appeared to this young man. Sure. I look at all of it skeptically, pretty much everything, like all kinds of religions. So I understand that completely.

But you were born into it. Yeah. I'm born in Utah. My family was raised in Utah as well. And then also, like, ancestors were converted to the church and moved to the United States. Oh, they moved to the United States? Yeah. I have a grandma from, like, South Africa. Oh, wow. Came all the way to the United States back in, like, the 1800s. And she was converted in South Africa and made the journey all the way to New York. And then from New York York walked all the way to Utah area.

She walked to Utah? Yeah. Like the Mormon history, it's pretty shocking like what they went through and all the trials that they went through just to keep our religion alive. I know, but we couldn't get her a bus or something? They went all the way to South Africa to convert her? Maybe they had some wagon wheels maybe. I think she did like a pilgrimage pretty much. much no shit and what year was that approximately uh around

like 1890s wait you said your grandma yeah like great great grandma okay all right yeah like my ancestry like oh it goes really bad all right so they were in the wild wild west that's different yeah i was thinking like this is like 1960 or some shit. No. Like she's walking from New York to Utah. What the fuck? That'd be a long walk. Wow. Yeah, that'd be a very long walk. But that's interesting.

So a bunch of the, what's the full name? Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. That's a lot harder to say. But you can just say like the Church of Jesus Christ or you can even say like Mormon Church. I won't be offended. Okay, the Mormon Church just because like it's easier to say. But like so they went to South Africa from the United States. They converted your great-great-great-grandma.

She came over here, and you've been here ever since. Yep. And then also family from Europe. The church, once it got established, they sent out missionaries to other countries around the world to, like, preach the restored gospel. And a lot of people were converted, and they essentially moved to the United States, a lot of people were converted and they essentially moved to the United States, a lot of them, and some of them stayed back in their countries and developed the church as well. Now we're going to get into what you've been doing on your YouTube channel and across social media today a ton because it's pretty amazing on the ground documentary work you've done. I mean,

you're essentially covering everything from the border itself to the effects that that then has on, say, a city like New York. You've done a lot of videos there where a lot of migrants are being sent. And obviously, our border and the immigration crisis has been something that has basically been an argument my entire life. So it's not something we solved. But before we get there, you had an interesting pathway to get to this because you left. Did I get this right? You left America for about two years on a mission to South America, but it was like Chile, right? I did a mission in Chile for in Santiago de Chile for two years. Now, what does that mean? What were you doing? Yeah, so essentially, like I was telling you how my ancestors were converted

by missionaries back in the day. Today we still believe in the preaching of the gospel. And when you graduate high school at 18 as a young man, it's kind of your responsibility. You're not obligated to do it. And you have the option whether or not you want to go. And I actually didn't want to go. And so I waited like a whole year. I told my parents, like, I'm not go. And I actually didn't want to go, and so I waited, like, a whole year.

I told my parents, like, I'm not going. Like, I don't want to do this. And over a course of time, like, I had, like, the feeling and, like, had spiritual impressions. That led me to make the decision to go to – Spiritual impressions? Yeah. Like, we believe in revelation.

Like, I believe in the Holy Ghost, and I believe, like, there's some feelings that come from God. And, like, through prayer, you can get those certain answers. And so one night I said prayer because I was, like, highly debating it, whether I wanted to go, and I just felt like I needed to do it. I called our bishop at the time. And, like, two weeks later, the church headquarters, like the prophets and the apostles, they, like, determined where you go.

So I had no idea where I was going to go. Oh, you don't get to choose. You don't get to choose. Like my brother went to Arizona. My other brother went to El Salvador on their missions. One brother only got to go to Arizona. You guys got to go to like fucking South America. Oh, yeah.

It sounds like that's some bullshit right there. Yeah, he was pretty upset about that. And they called me there. And at first it was really hard. Like you go there all by yourself. You don't know the language. You learn it just as you're there. Oh, you didn't speak any Spanish?

Very little. I used to take Spanish when I was younger, but very little Spanish. And so I learned that there, and I learned it in about like three months. And then you start teaching and helping people learn more about our church and about jesus christ now how does that work like are you like out on the street with like pamphlets or yeah so essentially like have you ever seen like the guys that are walking around in a white shirt and a tie like that you know like a little plaque on their chest you ever seen those people around maybe maybe yeah so you walk around you're with a companion you go there all

by yourself and then they put you with like companions throughout your whole entire mission and you go around you just talk to people and then we have then you give them like the opportunity to to understand like if joseph smith really was a prophet and if the book of mormon really is the true word of god as well with the bible we also believe in the bible i ask this to everyone with religion who's out there like preaching and stuff. So it's no different with Mormonism. But isn't it like a little odd that religions need to go out and convince random people that this thing we believe is true and in order for – I'll put some words in your mouth here.

But in order for you to be saved or something like that, you really need to join this. Like, shouldn't it just be people decide what they decide to have peace within their soul for however they live on, however long they live on this planet and hopefully use that to treat people well and do their best? I believe that we come from a God and that God wants us to return with him.

And then today, like the whole thing with our church is that we have evidence that God has restored his church here on the earth. And so like I'm not a spokesperson for the church or anything like that, but this is just like my testimony, like what I believe in. And so as members of the church, it's our kind of responsibility to teach people that God actually did restore his church here on the earth and that today we also have living prophets, and that we have

a prophet, Joseph Smith. He's not alive anymore, obviously, but he restored the church, and then we have evidence of that, which is the Book of Mormon. Because we believe, like, after Jesus Christ was crucified, and after His apostles as well were crucified, and they were

not all of them were crucified, but they also eventually died off, right? Right. That that same power, that priesthood that Jesus had and his apostles had, essentially like vanished off the earth because there was so many different churches that came up, that sprouted up, and to have a church, you need to have like the authority of God.

You need to have like His sponsorship, basically. And that's why there's so many different churches today because once Jesus died and all His prophets also eventually died, a lot of religious rituals started to get changed. For instance, baptism is different in a lot of different churches. How their priesthood is set up is also different in certain things like that. And so in order to have the true church, I don't believe that God's a person that has 10 different churches, right?

He's in every single church, but I think he would claim one church. Jesus was his only begotten son, so he claimed Jesus his only begotten son, and then Jesus went around teaching everybody his word. And so he wouldn't want his word to get mixed up and spread in 10 different churches, right? Yeah, I mean, look, in fairness to Joseph Smith, you make a good point back there that there was a separation after the apostles died between any form of religion. Like I grew up Catholic, right? I'm not a Catholic now. I've got a lot of issues with that church.

I don't need to get into all that. But, you know, when you look at the roots of like Christianity itself, in this case, the Church of Latter-day Saints, right? Yeah, Church of Jesus Christ. All right. So it was, I want to say it was like 1840, something like that, when Joseph Smith claimed that happened. Yeah, it's around 1820, 1830. It's like when the church really started to get – Right. So he believes there's like a divine thing that talked to him and waited 1,800 years and now created a church. The actual Catholic church though that then ended up bearing off all these different Christian churches over the years, they claimed all their shit at the Council of Nicaea, which was in 300-something AD. I forget the exact year, but it was years after all these guys had died.

And I find such issue with the evidence that all the different churches, whether it be one that's right or the others are wrong, whatever it is, whoever it is, that we have that separation in some way and then we rely on someone whether it be through like a divine intervention or through writing out you know the codes of the new church at the council of nicaea to tell us what the history was and how it exactly went down like do you ever think of it like is there as someone who's like a brilliant investigator which you clearly are with your channel do you ever think about like, okay, would there be evidence or things that I could learn along the way that I would be open to changing my mind? I'm not trying to pressure your religion. I'm just asking like a very hypothetical type question.

No, totally. I totally agree with you. And like I went through that. Like even on my mission, there's times like especially the first few months when you're out on your mission, you're like, is this true? Like am I walking around every day like, especially the first few months when you're out on your mission, you're like, is this true? Like, am I walking around every day, like, really teaching the truth? And that's when, like, your testimony and, like, what I was saying, those spiritual impressions need to come into your life. And you need to, like, really pray about things and, like, realize and see, like, if stuff received those spiritual impressions and, like, that testimony from reading the Book of Mormon,

which is, like, evidence that Joseph Smith restored the church for us. Like, some people, obviously, people that don't believe in the church don't believe in the Book of Mormon. But, like, I do. And that's, like, my evidence that Joseph Smith was a prophet. He wasn't a perfect man by any means. Like, if you look at the church history and, like, if you look at church history, history, he might have done some interesting

things. Like what? Polygamy, for instance. But if you look at it in different ways, I understand where that comes from now, but if you look at it if you just hear about it, like, oh, Joseph Smith had, I don't know exactly how many wives he had, but

he had ten wives. Wait, so that's not a normal thing within Mormonism now? No. That had. I don't know exactly how many wives he had, but he had 10 wives. Wait, so that's not a normal thing within Mormonism now? No. That's why we don't call ourselves Mormons anymore because there's so many people that relate that stuff to us. So he was the guy doing that, and then some people did it, and then it died out because people were like, we shouldn't be doing this. So essentially it happened when he was, after a few years of starting the church he received revelation that he needed to like take other women to be his wife um and like i believe that was because like in the book of mormon there's and in ancient times as well like

abraham also had what many wives yeah but um and so i believe like there's only one scripture in the book of morm Mormon that really kind of talks about why there'd be a reason for it. It was like to bring up seed. And I was thinking, and I think about it as far as like at that period of time, he was trying to start a religion and to start a religion, you also need, eventually you need like a good strong base. Yeah.

And so if you, so if God was able to provide a way where he could help more people understand and create a stronger church, maybe it would be by having – otherwise having more kids, bringing up more seed into the church. And then from there, it can just keep amassing and getting bigger and bigger. Right. were able to successfully convince some women that, hey, I'm on to something here, and that has several of them, and then could do the dirty, make sure we have more kids, now they can spread it. There's also like it took like that wasn't just right off the bat that happened. Like that was a few years into the process, and so he was already showing like that he had the church already established, and then to support more people and to help

more people like to get build up that base i believe um that was something that god wanted him to do to raise up seed and like other men in the church did it as well and i think there's also like a thing if you look at religions it's also interesting like us as guys we're a lot harder to accept things we're a lot like if someone tells us oh, we need to pay our tithing as men, it's like, We're like, fuck that. Yeah, it's like, I don't want to do that. But like I think women are more receptive to doing those certain things based off faith, and us men are kind of like,

I don't want to do that. That's an interesting thing. And so, yeah, and so I think there's a lot of men that were also reading the Book of Mormon and stuff. But, and I even see this in my mission, like a lot more women were more receptive to the gospel versus men. And so I think a lot more women might have been converted at that time period as well. And so there weren't as many faithful men to be husbands to these wives and to really like raise up uh seed i guess and uh so i think more there's like more women that were members of the church than there were men and so like these women

also needed to have husbands that were right less to choose from right not necessarily less to choose from but there was like less people to support them and their needs like yeah like i think like nowadays if you were to raise a house in a split religion, it could be a lot harder as well too. You think so today? Yeah, I think that's where a lot of issues come through with children and stuff. They're picking sides like, oh, do I want to follow mom or do I want to follow dad? Yeah.

And it kind of causes controversy, I would feel like. Yeah, I don't have kids yet, but I've thought about that a ton. Like there's a few different things I think you think about long before – at least I do – long before you have kids. And like it's difficult because they're so impressionable and you also have your opinions and stuff. And it's natural for us as humans with the people closest to us, especially who are younger, to almost be like, oh, let me teach him this or whatever. But, you know, I don't know what religion my future wife will be or if she'll be religious or not, or what she'll think about the afterlife, whatever it is. But I think it'll be really important personally, in my opinion, for my kids to kind of make their own decisions on stuff.

Not to say don't give them moral guidelines and things like that. Absolutely. But from a, from an actual meaning of their life standpoint, it sounds like even though you were born into the religion, you did have, you did end up having your own journey with it where you kind of make, came to your own decision with that. I don't know if some of that was pressured, but it sounds to me like there was some real connection for you. That's a pretty good thing. Everyone kind of has their own like to it. Like I had a lot of friends that went out on their missions because it's like, oh, if I don't go on my mission, like my parents are going to get mad.

And like there's a lot of kids that go out because they feel pressured. I don't want to feel that pressure. And I was like, I'm not going like I'm not like, why would I go like, like, I believe in it, but I don't know for certainty. And once I eventually did know for certainty that I was like, I'll in it but i don't know for certainty and uh once i eventually didn't know for certainty that i was like i'll give it a shot okay and uh i was like i you the missions are for two years and uh i told myself i will go out for six months if i don't like it after six months i will come home oh you can leave you can but like if you come home early from your mission like you're kind of like looked upon like, you must have done something before your mission

that made you unworthy to be out there. Because you also have to be worthy to preach the gospel. So you were saying you were out there, though, essentially the mission is to be out there on the street trying to convert people to the religion. But were there things that really, like what was that experience like? Did you come back extremely changed from it, even just from the perspective of being in such a far away place in a totally different culture it changed how i view life and how i look

at a lot of things and then also spiritually it changed me as well as far as like my beliefs like before if you would have told me certain things about the church i might have doubted you or i would have like let major doubts get into my head but now that i have like a testimony for certainty that i know these things are true like yeah stuff might become people might say certain things about the church but at the end of the day like my testimony remains the same and now i have like these principles and and what i think about and now today it's helped me so much especially what i'm doing now with a lot of the migrant stuff that's going on i learned spanish i met migrants and i realized like what's actually happening with the migrant stuff that's going on i learned spanish i met migrants and i realized

like what's actually happening with the migrant situation i didn't realize like people are leaving venezuela walking thousands of miles in hopes of a better life and like i didn't realize like all that human suffering that happens here in the world because we live in the united states and we don't really see that stuff right i don We don't see it. That's right. And especially if you're born in a normal household and you live a pretty chill life, you never have to see any of that sort of stuff. And then you go out there and you realize, like, wow, we as humans are literally surviving. We're not animals, but in a way we are

because there's a reason why they call New York City the concrete jungle because every single day you are trying to survive in certain aspects of life. And so the mission really helped me realize, wow, this is really important. And then it made me also realize it's so important to believe in God. And to have a—even if you aren't a member of the church or even if you don't believe in God, it's so important to have a role model you look up to and a set of values that you follow. Guys, if you're still watching this video and you haven't yet hit that subscribe button,

please take two seconds and go hit it right now. Thank you. Were you down there with other missionaries as well? Yeah, I didn't know any of them though. You just are sent there. How many of you? In my mission, there was like around like 200 missionaries. Holy shit. Okay, so there's a lot of you. Yeah, there was around 200 missionaries. Holy shit.

Okay, so there's a lot of you. Yeah, there's a lot of us. And then there's also like, that's only like one mission in Chile. And so there's missions in every single, not every single country in the world, because some countries don't permit missionaries. Like I know in China, like there's restrictions, like there's still missionaries. That wasn't surprising. I knew that was going to be first.

China, and then like in Russia, you also can't, like if there's restrictions. Like, there's still missionaries. That wasn't surprising. I knew that was going to be first. China, and then, like, in Russia, you also can't, like, if I was a missionary there, I don't think I could walk around with a badge, and I couldn't, like, try to solicitate my message. Like, you have to become friends, and, like, by that, you would have to, like, do it. You got to make a YouTube video of you soliciting Vladimir Putin to join the church. That would do real views. I don't know if I want to get off. I'm not ready for that yet. But when you were down there,

like, did you make good relationships, even, you know, not necessarily with people you converted, but make good relationships with people in the local population and learn a lot about the culture too? Oh, yeah. You're totally immersed into it. Like, you depend on them to help you survive when you're there as well. Like, all the members there, like lunches,

like I had never bought a lunch when I was on my mission, except for the day that we had free because the members there or other people would like offer you lunch and they'd want you to come over to the house. Oh, wow. It's like the members of the church would be like, oh, yeah, we'll sign up for the give missionaries lunch that day. And were you guys like all staying in the same place or all spread around?

So it's you and your companion and sometimes like another companionship and that you live like an apartment. Okay. So two full years there. Did you successfully convert some people too? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. How many are we talking? My like first year, like it's really hard to do.

And then like especially when you're learning a different language and it's really hard to do and then like yeah especially when you're learning a different language and it's all like by spirit like you never want to convert somebody to convert them but i mean i got i was a pretty good missionary um i think like i had the record of my mission you had the record for that time period after covid. Wow. So like a lot of people. Yeah. It was like, it was around like, like 25 ish, but my first year I only had five. Good numbers right there. Yeah. But the numbers part doesn't really, it doesn't matter. Like you don't go on a mission, like with a goal, like eventually I just like got like, so good at talking with people and like giving them like what helped me and sharing my testimony and like helping them read the Book of Mormon. Like you

should read the Book of Mormon. I think everybody them read the Book of Mormon. You should read the Book of Mormon. I think everybody should read the Book of Mormon. I never have, but you'll have to check it out. It's pretty crazy, especially if you want to talk about the story of Joseph Smith and how it was translated. Most people are like, oh, Joseph Smith wrote this book, but he literally translated the Book of Mormon in 90 days, and there's only one version of it.

Wait, what do you mean he translated it? Yeah, so the Book of Mormon is a story of people here in ancient america because when like there wasn't just people over there where the bible was written as like where moses oh yeah yeah and so here on the americas there's also people and they were also receiving revelations there's also prophets and those books and their stories were written on like on golden, or essentially just plates. And through time, those books were passed over. Then eventually it was received by a man named Mormon. And then Mormon compiled all the books together in chronological order.

And then that book was then put into a hill in upstate New York. And then Joseph Smith, after he had that revelation of seeing God, that vision of seeing God and Jesus Christ and the Father, a few years after that, he was then visited by another angel named Moroni. Moroni visited him various times over the course of a few years. And then he was guided to the plates, and then he took those plates back, and he's also given an instrument. Was Joseph out in Utah?

No. He wasn't? No, he was all up here in upstate New York. So he was in New York too? Yeah, in upstate New York. And then he received these plates, and then he was given what's called, we believe it's called the Urim and Thummim, and that he used that to translate the Book of Mormon. Okay. So when you say, just like approximations here though, because that's interesting,

some of that I really didn't know. But when you say like the ancient Americans and they wrote things on tablets, how far back are we talking? Yeah. 10,000 years? Like before Jesus? So the Book of Mormon starts 600 years before Christ, before he even comes. Very interesting. Okay. 600 years before he comes and then ends 400 years after Jesus comes and after he's born. So like short ballpark idea, what is the 600 years of history before him? Is it similar to some of, you know, the later Old Testament type stuff?

Kind of. Or is it entirely different? Like, you'll never find anything in the Book of Mormon that contradicts the Bible. Because they're all being taught by the same person. All the same prophets are getting taught by the same God. Oh, understood. If he's telling Mosesoses something he's also going to be telling people here in america's but the book of mormon starts in jerusalem and then a prophet left jerusalem came to america has raised his family here and then that same prophet had a son named nephi and

then nephi um had kids as well and like the lineage kind of goes down and there's a separation of lineage in the book of mormon and then there's also so it's kind of crazy gotcha so but it starts in uh jerusalem comes america and they talk about like even like being guided to like what we believe is the promised land uh which is which is like america's like they were guided to the problem that's where like that's what they call this like the promised land like that's where it really diverts that's where the story is is different yeah because they uh the prophet his name was lehi and his family with his family and he had a son named nephi uh nephi and dad, was told, like, you guys need to leave Jerusalem.

It's going to be destroyed. And then they leave, and then later Jerusalem is actually destroyed. I believe it is Jerusalem. And then they leave, and a few hundred years, or I can't give you the exact number, maybe like 50 years after they leave, it's eventually destroyed destroyed and then they're in america and they start but you were saying the church recognizes that all these different prophets were taught by the same god yeah like so there and that's it was just interesting i didn't expect you to say that that the mormon church i'm gonna misstate exactly how you said it you said it better and i'm going to but the mormon church doesn't divert with the bible or something like that yeah we believe in the bible

right so if it's the same if it's the same though what makes it different from like one of the other regular christianity religions other than there's something to do with the americas in there you know what I mean? Yeah, so essentially the Book of Mormon, if you read the side of it, it just says another testament of Jesus Christ. And so, like, they say, like, his word will be established by two or three voices, and this is just another testament. And so it's just evidence that nowadays we have, like, his legit church here on the earth.

And that's why you see so many different churches. And if you go walk around these streets, you'll see different churches, and they all have like some differences in what they believe, but they're all using the Bible. And essentially, if the Bible was 100% correct nowadays, we wouldn't have 1,000 different churches. And so what the Book of Mormon did was it reconfirmed all the teachings in the Bible and showed that today Joseph Smith was called as a prophet because he literally translated those pages in the Book of Mormon.

Do you think that if within the religious context belief of heaven and hell, do you think that people who are not Mormons can go to heaven? I always ask this of the different religions. Yeah, everyone's going to have a chance to go to heaven. God loves everybody infinitely. You're going to have the same chances I have, and so will anybody else in this room. God's not going to leave any of these kids behind,

and so he's going to help everybody, and there's a process. But now, as I'm a member of the church, one of my obligations or one of my duties is to help people learn more about that stuff while I'm here on the earth. And there's going to be a chance to learn after you die as well. I like that answer. And so here on the earth. And there's going to be a chance to learn it after you die as well. Hmm. I like that answer. And so like here on earth, I have like the certainty if I follow the commandments,

I follow any of the other revelations that have been given to the modern day prophets. Like if I follow that, like I'll have the certainty that I'll be able to live with God and Jesus Christ again. If somehow later in your life it were like proven that that i don't know how it would be proven but it were proven that say christianity is religion is like not exactly what it was do you think that the morals with which you live your life to treat other people well and do work for some creator that had to start all this i do believe in that right do you think that that will be enough to make it all worth it or do you think that would be a crisis of of meaning because you'd think like oh my god was it a lie i'll still be happy i did it i won't regret it like either

way like i'm still living like me and you we aren't different other than maybe i follow some different like commitments right right and so uh essentially if I live my life the way I'm doing it right now I'm not I don't feel like I'm being restricted by any means and like if anything it's enhancing my happiness because I don't have to worry about certain things if I follow the commandments like I think a lot of the times when societies when you see society separate from God is when you see all this chaos happening and like the my moral compass is I follow my own moral compass and I don't get too straight off there. Like I'm not saying you won't see me go do something crazy, but you're not going to see

me do something like where I drink so much alcohol and then I go have sex with a chick and have a baby. Like you're not, you're never going to see that from me. Never? Never. Never? Not even in New York? Never.

Not even in New York. Not even if a Wall Street girl comes up to me you know um i believe you but so like there's certain aspects of my life i'm not gonna have to worry about like i see like since i've been doing some of these youtube videos i see so many kids that don't have a mom or a dad they're missing one of them like yes my goal is to eventually like eventually get married and and raise a family with one person and not have to worry about having a split household. I think that's a great goal. I think that's a huge, huge issue in the country for sure.

If you look at it, most of the issues here in the world are from people not following commandments. They fall into a lot of temptations. Yeah. And so my moral compass is going to help me, and the rules I abide by in my religion is going to help me so I don't fall into those things. That's great, man.

That's a great answer. Yeah, and so it was interesting. And I think if more people did follow God, I really want to make a video of what happens to society when they stop believing in God. And you're seeing it more and more every single day. If you go to California, for instance, I personally lived there in California when I was on this journey of becoming a YouTuber. And I felt like there was so much power of the devil in that place, I had to get out.

Power of the devil. How do you figure? Yeah, because I was telling you how sometimes I had to get out. Power of the devil. How do you figure? Yeah, because like I was telling you how I like sometimes like I can feel the spirit and so can you. Like maybe you're even feeling it while we're talking about this certain stuff because it's like a different feeling. But then like when you don't have the spirit with you, because I was baptized and received the gift of the Holy Ghost, right? And so like the gift of the Holy Ghost is like supposed to help you navigate a life in a little bit, right? It's not like you're never going to be 100% in line with it.

Yeah, yeah. So like for instance, like in LA, like I would go to these parties and at these parties there would be one guy, about 50 years old, six girls sitting around him. Is his name Diddy? Maybe, no. I wasn't Diddy, but you'd see like these things. Six dudes, I guess, but you know what.

Yeah. So like you see these things and you're like, what the freak is going on? And like none of that's by God. It's all by the devil. And you see, I remember going to this one party, we were there. This one guy, he's like the king of all these like influencers pretty much. Like all these influencers at a house, he helps them do certain things. Is this who I think it is?

All fair. Go ahead. Keep going. I'm at this house. There's all these people that I love watching on YouTube, and they're there as well. And on the ground, there's just like whippets. I didn't even know those were a thing.

There's just whippets just everywhere. Oh, yeah. Cocaine on the ground, there's just like whippets. I didn't even know those were a thing. There's just whippets just everywhere. Oh, yeah. Cocaine on the ping pong table. But this guy, and like drugs, alcohol everywhere. Everyone's drunk. And like me, I just like felt like this place is like horrible. And then all these fake relationships. These girls are only around this 50-year-old man because he has the house in Beverly Hills.

Yeah. And all these guys with millions of followers are only there because he's able to maybe give them a brand deal or able to facilitate them to get more followers to help them start X, Y, and Z. And so, like, none of that's by God. And it's just all manipulation, like tactics of God or tactics of the devil, my bad. I think, and depending on how you look at it from a religious standpoint or just like moral or immoral i i think you have a point for sure and i haven't spent time out in la but know a lot of people who have certainly there's some good stuff out there but you see a lot of people who are worshiping things that are not god and by that i mean you know money fame and

with it power and these are the types of things that do get normalized and yeah i do i think i would have like i enjoy a good party right but do i think i would have fun living for three years in some fake content creating den with everyone fucking sitting there doing drugs and getting stds probably not yeah and then at the end of the day these kids aren't like the kids that were doing it aren't even happy and so there's like you'd like see especially i i just see this in general because um like i'm always sober yeah like i see when like people take large sums of alcohol and they start getting drunk like the conversations don't even matter

when someone starts getting drunk I believe like when someone starts talking to me and they're intoxicated it's just like okay you're probably not going to remember this and neither one of us are going to benefit. Have you ever drank? Never. Never so you've never had anything that's like yeah I don't think you're wrong about that by the way

yeah and like there's like yeah i don't think you're wrong about that by the way yeah and like uh there's like like like people that that do it not in the church but like everyone like if you say i were to drink like it wouldn't be the end of the world i would like repent and then i would like never do it like i wouldn't want to do it again oh you should have to repent for it yeah for having a drink yeah and so i had to repent for it But like, I don't want to do it. And so, yeah, I don't know. Good for you. Yeah. It's not, I mean, you know. Oh, I also made like a handshake with my grandpa when I was like 16.

I would like never drink. Oh, really? Yeah. Like me and him, we were just hanging out and I was like, we were just talking about something and I was like, I never want to drink. And so I respect my grandpa a ton. And we shook our hands. And for that reason, I'll never drink,

even if I do leave the church. I mean, alcohol is a drug, so I don't think it's like, you know. I always think it's kind of weird when people are like, you have to do something. Like, you know, if you want to do it, great. If you don't, great. But you do make a good point. When people get – I think there's a nice little spot right there

where you're a little buzzed, where you can have some great conversations. But when people get here, when I get there, shit, we're just fucking around. There's nothing happening. Yeah. There's nothing going on. It's crazy. But yeah, I always find that really funny. Not necessarily funny, but I like a little comical when people start getting like making complete fools of themselves.

I'm like, you're going to see this tomorrow on a screen because in your morning, you realize it happened until you see yourself on that screen. Yeah. Especially when they're like making content with that stuff. That's always, that's always tough. But, you know, you were saying you ended up out there. Was this, I was trying to put the timeline together. Was this before you went on the mission? You were out in LA or was this?

This was before. Like in that time period where I told my parents and told everybody that's around me like I'm not going to admission I was doing YouTube and so I got were you doing specifically I was doing more like pranks and stuff and like doing like the LA like I thought you had a move to LA essentially to build a YouTube channel because like that was the realm of content I was in and so I mean I went out there I made a ton of connections I made it like I so I went out there. I made a ton of connections. One of my best friends is somebody I still speak that I met when I was out there.

And so it actually helped me a lot to go around. And I met a lot of people, learned a ton. And now a lot of the success that I'm seeing from my YouTube channel is because of that time I spent in LA and in the U of E. Like learning how to create the content. Yeah, learning how to create content, thumbnails, how things work. Like just being around, like even if I'm around you, I'm going to learn something about podcasting. Sure. And so like I think now more than ever,

it's essential for people to learn how to make videos because even if you start a coffee shop, someone has to make content for that coffee shop in order to bring in traffic. So even like say I stopped doing YouTube, I'm still going to have to make videos videos whether i'm doing my own business whether i'm have any sort of business because i don't think i'm ever gonna work for anybody uh good that's a good goal i like that so i'm still gonna have to make videos yeah it's like that uh what i'm learning now i'll be i'll apply for the

rest of my life how old were you when you went out to la um 18 oh so you were yeah right away yeah right after high school and i went out with L.A.? 18. Oh, so you were, yeah, right away. Yeah. Right after high school. And I went out with a kid that, like, I was friends with, but I didn't really know that well. And I thought he'd help me all along the process, but he was a great guy. Like, I loved the kid to death,

but he also, like, fell into, like, certain things and got into the wrong groups, and, like, he faced those consequences, and because of what he, like the at those parties and stuff uh like he probably made a lot of decisions he wishes he didn't do yeah that that point by the way that you made i don't want to get lost on that you're making a good point about when society like diverges from god and there's you know some bad things happen when when you look at history this is always a tough one for me because i think you're right i i can actually kind of prove that like i can prove you're

right but also we can never live like in the middle in a nice happy area what ends up happening is society over time is often like a pendulum people move far away from a god or some higher being to give them meaning in life and they start around doing stupid and society loses morals and then the pendulum swings back to where everyone believes in you know it ends up forming around usually one thing and then there's pressure that like no this is what it is this is what you do and there ends up being forms of totalitarianism and wars and things like that. Both sides cause that, both situations. I just want to live in a world where the pendulum sits right there and people can make their own decisions on things, have a moral compass within society, some expectations for each other, live in relative peace and happiness with everyone else, and choose what religions you're in but have it

separated from the state that you're in and do you think that's what america is supposed to be yes like yeah the whole entire founding of america is like everyone has the right to choose that's right and the right like the freedom of religion that's right when i when i hear people talk about inject religion into into the american founding not even the constitution into the American founding, not even the constitution, into the founding, that's a telltale sign for me that they haven't studied history. When I hear that, I know that they haven't studied it because they don't know what the founding fathers believed. A lot of these guys, like I'll revert to Ben Franklin, who was one of the three key guys there you got washington and then probably after him was franklin as far as most influential you know he believed in god and he believed that that

you had to try to do good here on earth and be good to people and be agreeable you know obviously he had his principles and stuff and he was still a flawed guy still did some some things that were wrong in his life of course he's human but he's human. But he thought organized religion was more on, he thought it was a little silly. He's like, I don't know how we could know some of those things. It's just not really for me. And yet he lived his life in a godly way because he knew he was still a human, a little speck on this earth that was sent here by someone. I really like that. There's a lot of people within the founding fathers who had that. Then you had other people like John Adams who were very strict religious, right? So those existed as well, but they did end up writing into the constitution separation between church and state.

I think the downside to that is that,, I completely agree with that love that stipulation People can eventually make the state their god though in that way, right? And I think we've seen that throughout united states history when things get a little Little rough people are looking to the government To solve all their issues like oh, that's why we exist and that's not good either so I I call it both ways with that It's a very tough thing with human psychology because people have a tendency to go hard one way or hard the other, at least the people who are going to have the loudest opinions. And it takes away some of the nuance there. And I live more in the nuance with it. Yeah, I think it's important, like what you're

saying, as far as, as far as the Constitution and, like, all that stuff was brought about. Like, this nation was brought about by God. Like, it's this one nation under God. Yeah, they did put stuff like that in there. And they put stuff like that in there. And so now when you see people diverge from, even if you want to call it, like, a supreme power, like, people just don't have role models and, like, good role models to follow. I think that's essentially what God is for a lot of people and what they were meaning by that like let's follow like a good role model and let's live our life

how our God would want us to live right and so when people divert from that and they start going towards extreme ideas like it doesn't matter what we do tonight because we can celebrate the rest rest of our lives yeah yellow lifestyle yeah and and part of it too like i feel a little better about some things when it's like young people and it you know you kind of gotta you gotta figure things out in the world you gotta do some stupid shit sometimes sometimes you gotta be around things that five years later you're like wow i was really dumb but when you know when you give the example of you know the 50 year old guy with with five 20 year old chicks basically taking turns on his knob like that's you know and then you then that

guy he walks away from those girls and he's not even happy exactly he has yeah everything but nothing at the same time you ever been to a strip club um yeah i went once but uh like i 17 i thought like when you'd go i thought when you'd go like there'd be like a door to like stop because we were just like we were just taking one of our friends in and we thought it'd be funny to like walk him in and i thought there was gonna be like a door to stop it from seeing people i thought there's gonna be like okay you pay here and then oh like a peep show no yeah no they're right there no it was like we walked in i was in there for like five seconds it's like i feel like crap and got out yeah and then my one friend went in but uh yeah i'm but uh i was like i can't do this like i i like i thought this is not what i thought it was gonna be like i didn't

want to see that and uh it was a good it's a great story like like for that same reason i'm not gonna tell you i didn't go even if it, even if it might make me look bad. It doesn't make you look bad. It's fine. But I'm saying I very rarely go to one. It's usually when it's a guy's weekend or something, and someone wants to go, okay, we'll go. Nice view.

But I got to tell you, the thing I end up doing in there more than anything, because obviously strippers don't really love you. So I'm not really wasting my time with that. But I will people watch the dudes in there who you can tell have money, the ones that have money especially, and are in there all the time. You can spot it in two seconds because the girls are coming to them. There's a certain vibe they have that's like been here before, do this all the time and you you can spot in two seconds because they the girls are coming to them there's a certain vibe they have that's like been here before do this all the time this is a tuesday for me and to your point they are the most miserable looking son of bitches i've ever seen in my life doesn't matter how good their rolex look how good their chain might look what kind of what kind of

clothes they're wearing how in shape they might be they look totally dead to the world i've never seen one that doesn't it's sad yeah yeah so i mean that that does go to show you some people it's like we worship these things that are the way you might put it is like ungodly and then you get them and you're like oh that's all it is oh yeah this isn't this isn't doing it's like people that live for the weekend're like oh that's all it is oh yeah this isn't this isn't doing it's like people that live for the weekend yeah like oh your two days are awesome yeah other five suck that should never be how it is man you got to find your passions i don't even know if we're in the weekend or for the weekday me too man i always got to ask alessi what day

is it today you know it's like we're we're doing things. It's stressful, you know, building channels and stuff, as you know. But like we're doing things that we love, right? There's some hard parts that we don't like when we got to do it. But we get to work for ourselves and we get to go create things. And, you know, we're in that mode where we're trying to chase it to get to the point where we're good. And we can do this stress-free for many, many years. Exactly. And then we meet people like me and you,

or you talk to other people, and then you see the success stories. Oh, yeah. And you're like, well, I can't stop now. And then it's kind of just like, that's why I never stopped doing YouTube, because I knew what could happen if you can actually make it. And I haven't made it by any means.

Yeah, like next year, I could not even be uploading. Like you never know. Like I'll probably still still be uploading but I might not be getting views well you're growing like a weed right now and the reason is when you got back from your missionary trip and resumed YouTube you changed the content we hinted at this earlier but you changed from doing like the prank videos and stuff like that to becoming a journalist and and covering specifically like when you look through your channel the heaviest stuff you're covering has to do in one way or another with the border crisis which has pretty much been a crisis like my whole life like this shit's kind of crazy but

what what got you into that what what like you had said i think when you were on the missionary trip that you were founding out that some people were traveling thousands of miles to get there so the human interest part was was obviously something but like when you got founding out that some people were traveling thousands of miles to get there. So the human interest part was, was obviously something, but like when you got back, is that the only thing that drove you to go investigate this? Or were there other factors that you were learning about that you wanted to see for yourself? I always knew I was going to keep doing YouTube. And while I was on a mission, I like one day I set a time, set a part time and I wrote down exactly what I was going to do and how I was going to get a hundred K subscribers, what kind of content I was going to niche myself in.

And it was in this kind of journalism. I didn't even refer to it as journalism at the time because it's just like making YouTube videos on more serious topics for me. But now people are calling me like a journalist, which call me like it's cool. Yeah, I think that's fair. So I knew I was going to make videos on more serious topics. I didn't want to do those prank videos. I didn't want to have to like do like work on a huge project because essentially if you do prank videos and make videos like mr beast every single week you are reinventing yourself and making like a new business yeah

it's hard every single week and so i know i didn't want to do that and i want to niche myself out and start doing like these kind of like investigation videos and start going to different places around the world and sharing stories and then once i came back to the united states i wasn't even planning on making videos on the migrants i didn't really know too much about what's happening in the united states and then i came home my mom who's also my videos was really into the migrant situation like what got her into it so back in 2020 i was watching a lot of stuff on youtube and i saw like all these weird things going on with like the governments and like the people of power and i would always tell my mom what i believed in and she'd never believe me then i saw that donald trump was

gonna have like the biggest rally ever uh january 6th and so i was like i'm going mom and she's like you're not going unless I'm going. I'm like, she's like, it's too dangerous. I'm like, all right, well, come then, I guess, if you want to come. I brought her. You went? Yeah, I was there. You were there.

I was there on, yeah, I was there. I didn't go on the side of the building, but I was there. I was front row. I was next to Alex Jones. I saw him come right through, get escorted through. I was front row. I snuck all the way up to front row. People were waiting all night.

I pulled up in a construction vest and walked right up to front row. With a ladder? Yep. I was on the ladder with an earpiece in. I looked like I was on phone calls. I was talking to people, put my hand in my ear. Oh, my God. What happened that day?

You obviously didn't go in. Have you been questioned since then? No, I also, like, fled the country and went to South America. Well, that helps. But are you worried after you got back? You might get questioned. Maybe now that we're talking about it. It felt like a movie.

That was, like, the craziest thing ever. Like, the scenery was insane. So I'm in, in like the front row where public and then there's like a vip section where like the alex jones is and like don trump's family is that yeah don trump's speaking the clouds around us are just dark and gloomy and right behind us is the white house and don trump's up there just you know how he is talking like this and moving his hands and getting everybody fired up everyone was just like let's go like everybody was so excited and like not necessarily so excited but so enraged with what was going on and so then he leaves he gives a speech he leaves and the whole idea is

like everyone's gonna march down the capitol and when did that like were people saying that in the streets like we're gonna go to the capitol yeah i think that was like the idea is like to make like the whole i think wasn't like the whole purpose of the the of the uh of his uh rally to like get people to protest like wasn't yeah he wanted to overturn the election yeah to like show like like it wasn't supposed to be what it was supposed to be and if you look into it there's so many like weird things

like people opening up doors people opening up gates oh yeah definitely a weird day for sure it's a sensitive topic on the internet so you can't really

like say too much about it but yeah so we go like it literally felt like a movie and he finishes his talk I go

to the capitol building my mom was too afraid so she went back she's like stayed far away from a distance kind of just watching and i was like mom go back to the hotel whatever like don't like i don't want you to be here essentially because i don't know what was gonna happen and she went back and she was kind of like made her way back very slowly to the hotel room. And she got back on to the she got into the hotel room. She started looking at the news and she's like, this is not what's happening. Because at the protest, like it was peaceful and everyone was so like showing so much American spirit at the protest when Trump was talking. And the only part that got shown that

was bad was the people breaking in those people i don't even believe were the true maggot people out there like they're like now you're seeing it today with like all the protests that are happening like there's people at these pro-palestinian protests who are not for palestine they're just there to cause havoc yes and so those people were the ones are busting into the building those a lot of the grand majority there were there were some that were not though yeah there was some that were not arguing that there was some weird shit going on but there were there were absolutely people trying to get in there who were there for the event now if you want to say some of them were following

the example of people who were just there to cause havoc for their own fame or whatever all right i could see that but you know i don't i don't think it was the best and brightest of people who were just there to cause havoc for their own fame or whatever. All right, I could see that. But, you know, I don't think it was the best and brightest right at the door breaking in. No, by any means, like, that shouldn't have happened. But, like, where I was at, people were singing, like, the national anthem. They were singing, like, it felt very patriotic. How close did you get? Like, I was on, like, the scaffold building,

like, where they had the bleacher set up. I was up there. I was, like, right next. Like, I saw the people, like, putting, like, a hammer into the window. Whoa. And I met the guy. I was the first person to speak with. His name is Big O, the guy who had broken Nancy Pelosi's office.

I was the first person to speak with him after he came out. He had the letter with his blood next to the name of Nancy Pelosi. Did you have a camera? Yeah, I uploaded it. Okay, so you did upload that. I uploaded it, but at that time you couldn't even put Trump into a YouTube title without it getting demonetized, though. Oh, I'm sure.

Yeah, it was a crazy time. Crazy time. So how did you get out of there? Like, when did you know, like, oh, this is going south, we got to go? It never, where I was at from what I was seeing, like, it never got too crazy. Other than the people breaking in, like, I felt completely safe. Like, I'm not sure if you've ever been to, like, a Trump rally or if you've ever been, like, around those people. Like, dude, they're just, they're just, like, Americans to the core. Like, they are, like, fighting and they believe in everything that the Constitution stands for. And, like, I don't get scared around those people because most of them are also very Christian. They're very like American.

Like they've, like if you go to Texas or like Tennessee, like you see those people and they're like gun hole Americans. And so you never felt scared. I never felt scared because a lot of people are on there were gun hole Americans, a lot of people from the military and there were like people like bashing out on the streets that were fighting with the police officers. And that was like,

kind of was like, okay, I should probably leave. And I started seeing people like with blood coming down their officers. And that was like, kind of like, okay, I should probably leave. And I started seeing people like with blood coming down their face. And I was like, I think I got all the content I need. And we walked down the street and people are getting like mazed. So that was probably a time ago. Yeah, it definitely, it got crazy.

And it's been a very interesting litigation since then. And there's, the whole thing is just very i'm ready for that to not ever be a thing we talk about again i understand why some people do but you know we've seen we've seen people take advantage of it and we've seen that i like i don't think it should ever happen in the first place because i i always said i didn't have any sympathy for trump for what happened to him that day because i'm like you were stupid enough to fucking plan an event where you're gonna have a bunch of angry people at the goddamn like in dc where you're telling them that like the election wasn't real like what could possibly go wrong and what could

my enemies possibly use against me for this like it's so stupid and then at that same time mike pence came out against trump at that same day yeah and so it was just like a perfect yes and that's and that was very crazy for chaos because like mike pence is like you know the god-fearing bible thumping you know right right of the right wing kind of guy and and he was like nah this is this is bullshit like we got to stop this and that was a shame when when that happened for sure. But the reporting of the day obviously has been very controlled in the media. And I don't like that. That's wrong.

That should not happen. So going back to your point, like essentially my mom saw that. Like she was there, felt peaceful. And she goes back to the hotel. She sees like the news and she's like, they're not reporting on what's actually going on. And then. But she's also, in fairness though to your mom, she's also not there. She's actually going on and then um but she's also in fairness though to your mom she's also not there she's at the hotel at that point she marched all the way down to the

capitol building and then i was like all right mom go like i don't want you here and so she saw like what was going on to a certain extent and then how much longer was it going on after she left i mean it went on like even after i left it still kept going on for like a few hours probably yeah but she saw like the the beginning of it the beginning of it and like the cool thing about that not the cool thing about that protest was like before trump had the speech and before trump even came on stage like you got like a huge sense of like patriotism like patriotism is that the word right yeah yeah and uh and so you felt like that around you you're like wow like all these people are like like if you go to a trump rally you're gonna

be like a lot of great people and that are just want to fight for like their values and what they believe in and so she saw all that and she like felt like the sense of uh camaraderie and like what was going on and then once like obviously once the capital rights started to happen like things started to get twisted but her point of view was like we saw this before it's like completely peaceful and then well the news reporting is just on the crazy chaos that's actually happening yeah it's such a it's such a fascinating case study we're in the middle of right now psychologically. But I wish we could live in a country where we had different opinions and then we didn't have things as far as people's beliefs politicize who they are as an American, right? And I think the left and right are both to blame for these kinds of things. But for example now, when you see someone who calls themselves a patriot or you see someone who has six American flags out when you see the people who you know aren't doing those things you start to go oh okay that that might be the other side right there i don't like that identifying i don't i don't like the whole you know we're here with this candidate because we're goddamn americans or whatever i understand that's that's a part of it

but i think that that stuff is what's dividing us and I think it's dividing us in the sense that the establishment has the biggest part to blame because they look at those people who are at rallies like that and they say you don't matter. Your voice doesn't matter. You're all idiots. I don't think that's good at all. I think that's a horrible thing, and I think it's just driving people like that lack of trust with the establishment that is 100 percent fair. It's only continuing to wedge that divide. And sometimes it feels like that's by design. Yeah.

Essentially, Donald Trump has made like a ginormous team. Yeah. With the MAGA. And I don't think there's like any other president that has had such a following like that. Yeah. He is definitely the greatest entertainer to ever run trump is a savage like he's he's a savage listen he is you can say a lot of things about the guy and i'm not a fan but i'm certainly not a fan of biden either i

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He's a savage. I just wish that like we could put aside the political pitchforks that have been out for him and then that he then responds to because it's bad. I mean you see these bullshit cases that are being brought against him, and that's what they – they're bullshit cases. Like this is a disgrace. These cases, they're being brought against him. They are making – they, meaning the people who supposedly don't fucking like him, are making him a martyr. They are putting him into office. Okay, you don't like Donald Trump. First of all, give me a better option than Joe Biden to run against him.

That's number one. Number two, do you see what you're doing? You are making people not trust the system more. When you have a judge who's fucking donating to joe biden i don't care how little money it was he donated to him you got you got a city that certainly is politically at least in in their power structures on the opposite end of donald trump and yet you have all these people in government who are doing corrupt shit out in the open by republicans and democrats buying stocks on insider trades openly in front of everyone else.

We're not prosecuting that, but we're going to go prosecute a guy for paying some money to a fucking porn star? Like, come on, dude. Hey, guys, if you have a second, please be sure to share this episode around on social media and with your friends, whether it's Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, doesn't matter. It's all a huge help. It gets new eyeballs on the show, and it allows us to grow and survive. So thank you to all of you who have already been doing that, and thank you to all of you who are going to do so now.

It's ridiculous. And all that stuff happened years ago too. They're bringing up all this stuff. They're bringing it up to try to stop them, and it's like you're doing the opposite. They're just dividing people even more. And I mean he literally raised raised did you see the number I think it was either 300 or 500 million dollars since that happened

it wasn't that much it was the first 48 hours he raised 52 can we check that now it's up to 300 it got up to 300 and so that's going to work against him and we'll see if he beats it. Oh, yeah, because Mary Maddison alone gave him $100 million.

Yeah, he got some big donors. That's right. He got some big donors to come in. Yeah. That was crazy what happened. And we'll see where it goes, and it's going to be really interesting to see. Look, I think I've quoted this before, but my cousin, Anthony Buckey, I had him on for episode 28, so back in the beginning, a long time ago. He had a great line in there where he was like, if you're waking up every morning and the first thing you're thinking about, for better or worse, is who the president of the United States is, something's wrong in your life and it's not to say it doesn't matter it does matter but we've kind of gotten to a point where we rally around these religious politics this is where i talk

about the state becoming your religion and it's it's totally unhealthy and i i i wish we had better options we don't i have some hope that four years from now when these guys are gone because they have to be at that point that maybe there will be some kind of like calming i mean i hope that's not wishful thinking you think it'll get worse i think gavin newsom will run for president i think from that side it's going to get a lot worse and then the right's just going to get even probably more extreme because the left's going to get more extreme as well that see, that's – and unfortunately, you might be right about that, and that's a huge problem to me because, like, we keep this divide going like this.

Like, this is how empires fall. They turn in on themselves, and they make each other the enemy, and we're doing that. And now let's reloop all this. And so what's going on right now, and then with what we've seen so far, right? And then I started making videos on YouTube, and now we're seeing all this migration stuff happening. And we're importing people from the third world.

What's going to happen to America? It's not going to stay first world. If you bring in people from the third world, they don't change because they're in America. It doesn't have anything to do with our soil we're the first world because of the people but we're bringing in people from the third world some good people some bad people we're eventually not going to be able to the same country now are you saying that because we're letting in so many at the same time and because we're talking about the illegal migration right now because we can't vet some of the ones who are actually bad there will be enough

bad people that come in that they maintain the third world as opposed to the say good ones that are coming in that want to be a part of it is that what you're saying yes because what's going to happen is you bring you're bringing all these people and i saw when i lived in chile i saw this as well so you bring in all these other migrants the migrants like they're there are some that are really great people like when i lived in chile like i met so many great migrants and that's why i came here to the united states that's why when i came back to the united states i started making videos to show like what's actually going on if you watch some of my earlier videos i'm really compassionate like in one video i even cry for the migrants because it's like so crazy what's

happening to some of these people what's that video um it's called like i discovered a secret hidden migrant camp can we can we pull that up i'd love to see this if you remember where that was but go ahead and but what happens is the people come over and they don't acclimate to change their culture like in chile the people would come there they wouldn't change their culture and instead they would like enforce their culture upon the people and so by bringing these people you're not going to be like okay now let's become patriots like let's stand for what america stands for no they're still going to stand for what they're standing for because if you speak to anybody from a different country like even if they hate their country they have so much pride for their country. Yeah, but do you think there's a mix?

Because like in America, obviously like where we are a melting pot, right? And we had a lot of good legal immigration. It was mostly legal during the 1800s and into the 1900s where people came from all these different cultures and many of them maintained pieces of their culture from home which is why we have restaurants from all different you know types of communities to this day that are now run by you know whether it be italian americans irish americans german whatever it is you know they all they kind of many of them had a good mix where they kept some of their cultural customs but also adopted the hey love living here in america i'm part of this culture now don't you think that's possible not with mass illegal migration where so many are coming in and

there's nothing for them to do and nowhere for them to go it's not what i'm talking about but from like a from a more organized immigration standpoint that could be a good thing that continues our history no not they don't speak english i agree that's what i'm saying like the ones who came in learned to speak english and they learned that's what I'm saying if we do that that's pretty good no? yeah but the thing is like nobody speaks English that are coming in and maybe their kids will speak English

but by that time it's going to be 20 years down the road and so these kids are still going to be brought up in their culture like essentially like if you're Venezuelan you're going to grow up in a Venezuelan household and if your parents never learn english or never acclimate themselves to like what america stands for you're going to be taught what venezuela stands for and that's not what we stand for here in america i think you're right in the sense that it does have to be i mean if you're coming here

you should want to be a part of that you should want to acclimate yourself to the culture you should want to learn it when i lived in italy i learned how to speak the language i learn it. When I lived in Italy, I learned how to speak the language. I loved it. When you lived in fucking Chile, you learned how to speak the language. You obviously loved it. You eat what they eat and you start to become what they become because you respect them. But what we're seeing is that complete opposite. They're coming and they are not learning the language.

If you talk to anybody at the border, they don't speak. Very few of them speak any English. Well, that's when they first get here in all fairness but you think like when you'd come like i would never go to another country and not have like a little bit of that language down like when i went to chile i still like i had to go through a a regular training for like six weeks to learn as much spanish as i could and then like i could acclimate myself but like these people they don't know anything in English. The grand majority of them don't. Did you use the internet to do that? No, I had like some books and I had like a course that I took with the church before.

Fair enough. And so like these people are just getting dropped off and then they're getting sent off to places and the places where they're getting sent off to, it's usually just a big group of whether it be Venezuelans or haitians they're still in their groups and so it's like um the the thing with me learning a whole nother language is i learned it so fast because i was acclimated and i was thrown into the spanish language and i was speaking every day with them but these people are coming and they're starting their own like little groups in different places if you go to a migrant shelter here in new york city it's all usually uh if you want i think it's like venezuelans or colombians so they're not like mixing them

with uh people that also speak english right because they're keeping them in there because they're keeping these overcrowded shelter i'm glad you explained this because i i i have a general agreement with what you're saying there has when you're when you're letting in so many again like it's illegally too i understand they want to come here and i think that's great but like we gotta have a better system to do it number one you're letting in some people who aren't good right who then ruin it for the people who are good and number two you're setting up the people who come in because there's so many of them we can't control to fail because you then put them into these crowded little spaces with a fucking million people who are just from their culture and that's where they stay.

And then they don't become a part of the great parts of America. Yeah, like they're not going to – That's fair. That's fair. Now, this is the video you were talking about? Yeah, this was filmed a couple months ago. And you said you got emotional in this video? Yeah.

Do you remember where that was? It's right there. It's in the United States, you guys. This is not in a third world country. Look how crazy this looks southern california this is in california this is the current situation here and honestly like it honestly makes me want to cry for these people i just talked to these people over here like they came all the way here they came from belsa or whatever right yeah we can't like they can't be coming in here to the united states they shouldn't be coming in here it should be a closed border imagine

traveling all by yourself passing through guardrail and this is the first thing you see when you get to the united states like it honestly makes me sad that there are so many people that have to go through this. Being a citizen of the United States is such a blessing, and I hope with these videos that I have done, people honestly will understand what people have to go through and see the reality of what's going on because this is crazy i don't care if you're a republican democrat liberal gay lesbian whatever you may be uh no one deserves to have to live in this circumstance and come to a country hoping for a better life and this

be what it is then you close the border because this is not right at all. I feel so bad. This is crazy. If you're listening and not watching, we're essentially seeing like a muddy, wet, open area, like tent little town. This is what it's like here.

There's just a bunch of stuff yeah you know these guys right here they're literally from africa like they should have came here and they shouldn't be told to come here and americans they don't want them in their country um but they come here and this is what they get to and i can only imagine going from leaving literally another continent to come to the united states and this is what you get like these guys right here are fully capable of none of working any type of job any no one no human deserves this at all now all right let's let's pause it right there that's that's pretty heavy stuff man so it's good that you show this and people can see this and see what it is because what you're doing there, at least if you ask me, is you're completely empathizing with the people who are trying to come here.

They are trying to get a better life and literally like that's the best – once they actually get over this border that they could just apparently walk right across, this is what's actually awaiting them because we don't have a system set up for illegally or illegally to have people ready to come and have an opportunity to assimilate. And, of course, we got to do that legally. But that's pretty powerful. Yeah, essentially that day was crazy because, like, I literally watched cartel drop off these people. They were in the journey of the migrants crazy first off and then the cartel drops these people off and they get there they're like what the frick are we doing here in america yeah i saw this lady i was walking with this lady from el salvador she's like oh i just came because it's gonna get you better like do you know where you're gonna sleep tonight she's like no like do you know where you're gonna go work no no plan like so what's gonna happen she's like well no. Like, do you know where you're going to go work? No, no plan. I'm like, so what's going to happen? She's like, well, I'll let God decide what happens.

Did you get her backstory? Yeah, she lived in El Salvador. She was a single woman. She had a decent job there, but she thinks it's better here in America because you can make more money. And she left because the borders are open. And how far approximately is that? El Salvador is down towards the southern.

It's just a little, it's like a, it's closer. It's like by Mexico, like one. Yeah, but that's still, Mexico is a long country, so she's still going hundreds of miles. Yeah, so she's still essentially like leaving very far away, which isn't very, as far as what some of the people have to do to come from like Colombia or a place like that. But like she should just stay in el salvador

like el salvador i've been there i went there after that video because i was like okay el salvador i think is the best option for these migrants i'm gonna go make a video there see what happens oh you made a video on el salvador yeah in the like there's other options for these people like america is not their best option like there's other options like el salvador is a great country if you go to mexico if you go to Mexico City, Mexico City is a great city. And the locals there, I talk to them, and they're like, I hear there's opportunities.

I don't know why people are leaving. But then there are like cartel lands and like where people probably are just getting extorted all the time. But just go to a different place in Mexico. Go to a different country in South America or Central America where you speak the language. What about all the people who are coming from really poor areas where they don't even have phones or anything like that and they just don't know?

Majority of them all have phones and they know what they're getting themselves into because they have somebody in the United States that's either told them or they're seeing stuff on tiktok or they're seeing stuff on youtube and if you're from venezuela like you can't live in venezuela like you can work a month and have get five dollars and that's and they're it's not like their prices are much different than the united states like a carton of eggs probably still costs around two bucks there, right? Which is cheaper, but they use U.S. currency

and they make their money, from what I've heard, they make their money in Venezuelan currency and that currency converts to like legit nothing. And so like there, you can't really live. It's like communism there. And the people are like, that's's why half the country is left. But what happens, the bad thing now is that you let in half the country leaves. Also, the criminals leave, and they get mixed in with the people here.

That's the issue. If you go to New York City, we're here right now. Go to New York City. You will see gang members walking around and staying inside these hotels we you can identify them by like the tattoos and stuff by tattoos yeah this time we were there we saw four men completely capable men just like me and you legs chopped off they are missing a leg. How would four completely good people be missing a leg? Well, in that case, they could be citizens who were subjected to, like, cartel violence and stuff, no?

Exactly. I'm not saying they weren't. Exactly. Like, it has to be something with the cartel. So the cartel's here. They were already here before. Oh, you think that happened here? Their legs getting chopped off, you're saying?

Could have happened here. Could have happened in Venezuela. It doesn't matter. The fact is, and the matter is that those people are gang members. And they're establishing their gangs. They're living for free. Couldn't they be victims, though, too? I'm not saying they aren't.

I'm saying, like, if someone's missing a leg, I mean, they're pretty brutal down there with how they legislate things within the fucking cartels. Yeah, but if you're doing business with a gang, like what does that separate you very much from? No, I'm saying it could be people who aren't doing business with them or people who they didn't pay them enough for something. And that's the police in town is the cartel. And they say, well, here goes your leg. That does happen no yeah i would believe it if uh they're uh a man with a family and they're walking around with their kids these guys are all single-aged men they're all by themselves okay that's fair and so like they're all like probably in their 20s 25 and they have it like chopped off

that's fair it's like uh something probably happened and it's no coincidence there's like four of you right now that don't have a leg yeah i think you know because what happens is when you let in people like that and then of course they're gonna do shit wrong here they're gang members right and then you know an american dies or something like that we've seen seen these stories. They're tragic. It's horrible. And I understand why that then makes people extremely, extremely angry about the border. Like when I see stuff like that, I get angry about it too. But how do we fix this so that we have a better system for people to legally immigrate?

And let me qualify that for a second because like i complain about the border all the time too and then i'm like well also how do i solve this on the other end you know when people are just trying to come here and things like that it's like to come here the the legal cost the the timeline the weight for people sometimes who are coming from thousands of miles away, it's not like it was in 1910 or whatever where they could come to Ellis Island, get whatever, get tested, get set up, and then be a part of the process and be here while they're going through the process. We make it so fucking difficult for people to do that. I actually have a friend right now who's an American who's had, I have two friends right now who are Americans who are having enormous problems getting highly qualified people, significant others here, you know, to America. And one of them also is like a hardcore military dude, which is crazy. And I then see why people are going to our very broken border which is a separate issue we're

going to talk about that's that's not acceptable but why people are trying to go there how do we solve that so that we give you know the the immigrant opportunity in america for good people a better chance and in an easier way for them to do it i wish i had the perfect answer for that i think just the backlog is just so there's so many people that are trying to do it. And there needs to be more employees that are like more, a bigger workforce of that area in the U.S. government to handle everything. But just like so many people, how can you vet so many people? Yeah. And that like, I know people that like, wait like 20 years and they don't ever get it, you know

Yeah, and so I think the best option is to maybe look for other options outside of the united states And I don't think the united states is the perfect country right now Either so I think there are better options in the world And if you leave your country, you're never going to make your country any better as well Yeah, and you know what's interesting though? And this this is a real Real poison pill most countries don't let anybody in yeah you know which should that should tell you something right you can't just now we we've seen some issues like in europe with that but a lot of

countries they got hard borders and you're not you're not they're not accepting people yeah and there's one country specific in Europe. I believe it's Poland. I know Sweden's letting a lot of migrants. UK's letting a lot of migrants. I think I want it. I can't be 100% sure on this, but I believe it is Poland. And they have the least amount of issues out of any of the countries right now in Europe.

Why? Because they're not letting in migrants. They're not letting in any. They're the most secure, safe I'm always seeing videos of crazy stuff happening in the UK with the migrant situation and so a country without a really strong border isn't really a country because you just can't let

everybody in yeah, I definitely gotta agree with that the thing that strikes me about our border here in america with our gdp you know fucking whatever it is trillions and trillions of dollars is that as you were pointing out there a lot of it's just completely wide open and just walk right it's not even there's not even like a little river there in some places you're just walking right over like

oh we're in america now and yeah and border patrol legit let's them walk right in okay i'm not sure if you want to get into that like let's get into it what do you mean so i've been to the border i've been to the border in texas arizona california pretty much been to all the hot spots where all the migrants come in there are literally gaps in the wall where people just walk right in no fear they. They're smiling as they come across. What do you mean gaps in the wall? There are legit gaps in the wall. Like, they built this huge wall, right? There's huge gaps. A lot of times, like, when the mountain starts to go up,

there's going to be a big gap for a migrant to walk right through. This is the wall Trump was working on, you're saying? Yeah. Okay. And then in Arizona, like, there's literally just unfinished parts of the border wall, and people can just walk right through. Can we pull up a picture of that, Alessi? Go to my YouTube video.

Go to the video where it's titled, I Caught Legal Immigrants Crossing the Border. Oh, okay. And you'll see this gap. It's called I Caught Legal Immigrants Crossing the Border? Yeah. Literally? Yeah.

It has like, just go to my channel it's one of the top videos and so they have this border wall and they're legit just like gaps and um and then the gaps that are there like they can't fix them because i'm pretty sure biden likes right there just a big old gap 1.5 less. Hold on. Let's do this. We're pulling it up. Okay. Where's the gap? So, go to, in that first section, the very first start of the video, the start, the

very start, very, very start, like the first scene. Go back to zero, zero. Like, look at the gap right there. Oh, so this is the wall, and that's a... It's unfinished. Yeah. Now what about, I can't really tell from here, the parts where it is finished, can humans fit through in between those spaces? No.

No? A baby could, but like a human could not. It's basically like a prison wall kind of. Yeah, the wall is actually really impressive if you go down there. You'd be really surprised. Okay, so these areas though are, so they just walk right through. Walk right through. Is that barbed wire on the other side?

But they can just climb underneath. Yep. What's the point of the barbed wire? It's got no... Maybe for cattle. I don't know. All right, play this. These are illegal immigrants that have just been smuggled over the United States border.

And then go towards the end of the video, I believe. I have spoken with hundreds of migrants, and each of them have paid me $5, of the video, I believe. Yeah, right there. The worst use of barbed wire I've ever seen in my life. I went back to the car to grab something and I looked back and people were literally coming through the border wall. People are coming over right now. There's a whole troop of them right here. I hurried and ran to tell Border Patrol, but Border Patrol seemed to not care. People are coming! People are crossing right now! And he doesn't even care. And with Border Patrol not stopping people from coming into the country, I had no other option. There's a coyote, there's a coyote, there's a coyote. He says, sunglasses on.

But there was one of these people that way that I tell them we're not coming. La policia ya se fue. Están bien. Bienvenido. No hay nadie aquí. Están bien, están bien. ¿Cómo están? Bien. Acaban de llegar. ¿ hay nadie aquí. Están bien. ¿Cómo están? Bien. ¿Acaban de llegar? ¿De dónde son ustedes? De Guatemala. ¿Tienen un bebé? Sí. ¿De dónde son? De Guatemala.

¿Y llegó aquí con un bebé? Sí. ¿Y cómo fue el trayecto? Bien. ¿Y ahora cómo se siente estar aquí en los Estados Unidos? Bien. ¿Fue muy difícil caminar y hacer todo el trayecto con el bebé? Sí, está bien. ¿Y ustedes están bien? Sí, estamos bien. Sí. Essentially they just said they're from Guatemala.

Oh, that's right. People can't be listening. You can't see us. Yeah, so. Like, everybody just walks right here. Yeah. Why did you guys come here to the U.S.? To make a better life for ourselves more than anything?

It's because it's in our state. There's no way to survive. Is the situation in Mexico? Yeah, the truth is yes. What's happening in Mexico right now with the political parties, there's a lot of conflict between political parties. For that, we are fleeing because they threaten you.

Now, where are you going? They're saying, I don't know. We're going to try and see if they give us an opportunity to be in this country and give us a place to be able to work. I don't want. We're going to try and see if they give us an opportunity to be in this country and give us a place to be able to work. I don't want to turn myself into immigration. Miss, where do you want to go if you don't go to immigration? I want to enter but I don't want them to deport me again.

Well, that's where you have to go. People are literally moved over. Me and the cartel guy waited at each other and said hi. I just want to say though, as you witness this happening, it's completely not right what is going on. The Border Patrol is watching this. I literally yelled at the Border Patrol,

I said, if you are coming in, if you, wave me up. They were on both sides watching this happen. But as a woman and as a mom, this really touches your heart. Because these people have little babies. And that lady was pregnant. They have desperation in their face. Their faces look desperate. It's so awful what is happening.

So the police are more concerned about us than that one in three of those children will be unaccounted for and missing. How much money do you think they're making a day off of this illegal immigration? It's estimated they're making at least $200 million a day. I had one time where 38 children between the ages of 4 and 14 came through at 10 in the night by themselves without. These are all on company wires. All on the traffic line.

One wall right here. And then they have a double wall. It's a double layered wall. All those people are people that are in the video that are working on the migrant crisis and exposing things as well. Right. Right. Okay. So what was the first guy, though, saying they're making $200 million? Who was he referring to there?

Every person that comes across the border has paid cartel. The cartel controls the border in Mexico. The coyotes. The coyotes. Yeah. And so each person is paying anywhere from $5,000 to $20,000 across the border. Yeah. If someone's coming from, like, middle of Mexico to get to New York City,

it's like $15,000 or something like that on average? Yeah. And before, because I've also spoken with an ex-cartel member, and before all this open border stuff happened, like, they would smuggle the migrants through, like, secret entry points, and then from there they'd pay for a fee to be taken to another city. So they'd have the cartel members here in the United States

take them to a safe house, and then the safe house people would then help them get on a bus to New York City or something like that. But now the U.S. government's just doing it. They take them to a safe house run by their same people. Yeah. So the cartel has these little spots, and maybe it's not necessarily a cartel, but they're being paid by the cartel has these little spots and um maybe it's not necessarily cartel but they're being paid by the cartel um and i'm not sure if it still goes on now because the immigration has changed a little bit but these people would get smuggled over in these like secret entry points

like in laredo texas there's like a a spot where you get smuggled over and then you can go like down into a tunnel and pop out at a mall. Pop out at a mall? Yeah, like the tunnel like pops out at the mall. Like in the mall or like right outside? Like right outside. I haven't been to it, but that's what the cartel member was telling me. You got to make a video on there.

Yeah. You might not live. I might not live. So like I was super shocked. Hey, safe way, safe way, secario. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. And so now it's like, why is it almost looks like it's by design that they're letting all these people in, and the cartels are still making loads of money.

What's blowing my mind, though, is that part we were looking at, we don't have to pull it back up, but the part we were looking at where the fence is all finished with like the bars and then there's like one area that's not. I mean, I could call up my construction guy and that could be done in like 10 hours. Less than that, eight hours. And all the rest of the fences in some spots, it's just laying there. But Biden shut down the plan to finish the wall. And so all like, I think it's like almost like a billion dollars worth of equipment just sitting at the border wall.

Here's what I don't understand. This is the part that really gets me. This is where it feels like Trump derangement syndrome. Barack Obama, minus like they hadn't built a wall or something, but like he was like the deporter in chief. Yeah. Like he was deporting people. He literally was way better at Trump at it. I i think statistically people go check that in the comments either way

like let's say let's just say he did as good right okay so he deported more i didn't make that up now you got the guy who was his vice president the only difference is now he's coming into office and let's be honest he's not making any decisions but the people around him who were usually a part of that last administration he's coming into office now after these four years of trump when he was in office and if you count his whole campaign five five and a half years of trump with the rhetoric or whatever and they go the total opposite way that is just like that's making a decision based on we don't like you, so we're just going to do the opposite. Like that's the antithesis of leadership.

It's like planned chaos. Yeah. And it's just like maybe the times have changed and maybe like they had different ideas at that time, like Obama and Biden. But now it's like you can't even like... If you watch that video, it's so obvious that stuff's happening. I'm trying to tell Border Patrol, hey, people are coming over. Border Patrol legit denies me.

And Border Patrol really can't even do anything because it's their job, but they're being told from... These are ICE agents? Border Patrol agents. Explain to me the difference again uh i think ice is like once they're in the united states they take care of them they do like all they're totally separate agency i believe so like i think they still all work for the department of homeland security um but border patrol like their main job is like protect the border and to stop illegal

smuggling and to stop like drugs coming over are they permitted to use deadly force if necessary no they they legit have to walk people their job right now is to welcome these people in take them to a spot line them up in a line count them off take them in a bus and then take them to the immigration center and then from the immigration center they take them to the streets where they do mass street street releases or they get on the street okay how does that work so in san diego you're educating people so keep going so in san diego they let all the migrants come into this place called jucumba uh that's where like the cartels are at right now and they're letting all the people come like a ton of people are coming through

especially a lot of chinese people and then from there they get put in a bus and then get taken to uh the immigration center and then from the immigration center they drop them off at a bus station in san diego and then for that bus station they are given a free bus ride from an NGO. From an NGO. Mm-hmm. A non-government organization. And then they take them to the airport, and then from the airport, these migrants decide where they want to go. On airplanes.

Yeah. And so... I'm surprised a lot of them at that point even have money after paying the coyotes to do that. Well, I guess if it's not just the... And the majority of them are getting paid by, like like a family member's paying for that ticket that's already here in the united states or if they can't pay for it the ngo pays for it how do they but how do they fly somewhere if they have to show their identification it shows they're not they don't there's lines at some of these airports where there's legit signs that say like uh no id like no id line

and that or these oh i'm uneducated on this you don't have to show i so i'm wasting my time every time i show an id at a fucking airport we have to we have to show it these people are guided by an ngo or a homeland security person through the airport lines. And I caught an organization in Tucson, Arizona paying and giving out flights to the migrants. And what... But you said sometimes it's literally Homeland Security doing it.

For children, yes. Yeah, put aside the NGO for a second. For children, so they won't do it for adults. But they'll fly a kid alone somewhere? I've only seen the kids with Homeland Security. So they'll just send a random migrant kid on a plane to God knows where for whoever the fuck to pick them up. Yeah, I'm sure they have some sort of thing going on, but it's that bad.

You'll see a group of, I saw in San Antonio, I saw a group of like i saw like in san antonio i saw a group of like three kids and like they're i believe they were all siblings but they were being guided by somebody from homeland security like social security and uh yeah through the airport and then onto the plane like did they send them through security yes they were in front of me i wish they did that but like human trafficking is more real than ever right now. Yeah, this is like textbook. You're sending minors who aren't from this country, probably don't even speak English, on a plane by themselves to whatever destination those minors are going to,

and you don't even know who's picking them up. And forget the NGO. The government's doing this sometimes? Yes. How long has this been happening? A couple decades? Like, am I way behind on this? It's horrifying and sad, like these little kids.

I have a friend that used to work here at one of the shelters in New York City that helped the migrants, and he quit because they took migrants to a spot, and then he was got an email saying he gave the kids to the wrong person oh oh that's nice like it's nice isn't that super sad like that oh it's disgusting that's why when i see it like like in that video like i i got emotional at that point because like i realized like what's gonna happen with them because i've seen it from both sides from all these people so all right i i want to back up this is really good you explained this i want to back up because you started in jacumba is that what it's called that's what we're just talking about yeah we were

talking and that's by san diego where the border is and so if i'm remembering this correctly fill in my blanks they come across the border where it's open yeah there's little gap walls yep and like in the wall or there's like little sections in the mountain as well where they'll just walk right through okay so they walk through usually with a coyote coyote takes them to some sort of safe house no the coyote takes them to the border and from the border they walk on these trails to these spots where NGOs. That's right. That's right. Where the NGOs have set up these camps.

I believe that the NGOs are in line with the cartel. I'll tell you why. We go to this. We go. Last week, I was in San Diego. We go to this camp where all the migrants are at. This is like in the middle of nowhere. Like this is a new spot.

We go there. camp where all the migrants are at. This is like in the middle of nowhere. Like this is a new spot. We go there. Right as I pull up, the NGO lady sees my face. She hurriedly runs to all the migrants. Do not speak to him. Do not speak to him. And then we try to speak to the migrants. They won't speak to me, which is rare because usually they're all really nice. They're not all really nice, but they've been.

Now, I think because I've brought so much attention to this subject, they're being told from the cartels and from these NGOs, which I believe are in line with the cartel. And then I go confront the NGO worker. I'm like, hey, what are you guys doing here? She's like, oh, we're just helping them out. I like do you like realize like what you're doing like she's like oh we're helping these people i'm like um do you know what happens what's gonna happen in their lives after they leave this place she's like all these people are good people like oh yeah all of

them like i haven't met a bad person i'm like i'm like how long you've been doing this for she's like oh i've been coming out here like seven months I'm like what are you doing like do you have like do you work for somebody like do you have a job she's like yeah I have another I have a job I'm like okay and then after that she shut down she wouldn't speak to me well meanwhile she had like this weird cameraman who's filming me got a Palestinian flag on him he's got like a mask on he won't say a word to me i'm like dude you're filming like let me talk to you like let's talk like what are you doing what are you gonna do this footage like i don't care what he does with the footage but i'm like you're filming me i should be able to film you don't get defensive when i'm filming your person while you're filming me right and then

after that we leave to go find other border spots. No more migrants come in that day. Do you know what this NGO is called? Like the name of the company? There's a few of them. Can you name one right now? Catholic Charities. Catholic Charities. Yeah, go to this video. Go to this video right here.

Yeah, let's start with the video then. I want to do something after. Which video? Right there. Walking around the camp all right there there are blankets through what's here at the camp from catholic charities those purple blankets are blankets from catholic charities they have everything is funded by american red cross and catholic services and here's the space blankets that they use to sleep

at night here and then from that so it's a religious... So the Catholic community services, especially in that area in Arizona, they're the ones giving out these free flights to people. And they'll take... The Catholic charities are. Yeah. So you think, and this is interesting. And so they'll take them,

somehow they're in line with the border patrol because they have these huge encampments, like huge, where they're taking in all these migrants and they're giving them these free tickets. So you think it's called Catholic Ministries? Is that right? Catholic Community Services.

Okay, Alessi, can you type that in? I want to see their website. Let's put that up on the screen. Catholic Charities. Yeah, yeah. Put it up where the video is. Catholic Community Services. So that we can see this.

Community Services, okay. Yeah, because I don't know. Catholic Charities USA or Catholic Community. Catholic Community Services. So that we can see this. Community Services. Charities USA or Catholic Community Services? Catholic Community Services. So not that one. Probably has to do with that one as well. Catholic Community Services. Type in that. Because that's what it's called in Tucson, Arizona. Catholic Community Services. Services.

Do and type in NGO. I'm trying to catholic charities community services similar to what we yeah i think they're open big name catholic charities like okay do it hit the about us who we are all right monsignor kevin sullivan he's a priest chair of the board monsignor kevin sullivan is the executive director of Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of New York. This might not be it. Yeah, does that look right? No, look up Catholic Community Services, Tucson, Arizona.

There was a logo, I remember. Look up Tucson, Arizona right here. Yeah, do Tucson, Arizona. Yeah, that one right there. That one? Yeah, that's the building in. Okay, now let's go to serve about about up there up top yeah perfect so this organization they have like a place called

like they have a it's called like casas alitas okay and there once you get into arizona in that section of the border um they will then take you to there or to another building and then from there they'll give them like free rent and like stay for like a week while they like figure out where they're going to go the migrants and they'll give them the free plane tickets and they'll give like all the paperwork all right go to the initial about Alessia and then I'm going to have you come back to this where you are right now okay so it says about Catholic Community Services of Southern Arizona. Clients, staff, volunteers, donors.

We're from many backgrounds and many walks of life, but we are all a part of the Catholic Community Services of Southern Arizona family. Together, our work touches lives every day in great and small ways. While our services are many, one thread binds our work together. We help children, families, and individuals live with independence and dignity. Now go back to where it says history of CCS. Okay, good. This year was 1930.

The year was 1933. The Great Depression was at its height. The Dust Bowl ravaged the nation's midsection. Banks tottered on the verge of collapse. Tens of thousands of Americans left their homes in search of work. Amid this troubled backdrop, the National Conference of Catholic Bishops spoke out. They issued a compelling mandate to serve the needs of those who suffered. From this call to action, Catholic Social Services of Arizona was born.

Okay, so it was born with the Great Depression here. But I'm trying to put this together because they were like shutting you down, telling you you couldn't even film and whatever. And then stop the migrants from coming across later that day. And we're treating you like shit. And you were just asking them, like, do you know what's going to happen to these people? To play devil's advocate for a second, and I'm on your side on this one, but let me play devil's advocate to see. Are these people just like really stupid people who are letting, you know, the parts of their religion that says help feed the poor and stuff like that, which is great. Letting that guide their actions and thinking they're doing good by assuming that what happens after they send these people away will work itself out.

Some of these people I believe are – they think they're doing good because they might see just from that first part where they come across the border and they help the people. But I believe that people higher up are working with the cartels. Literally, and that's what I was just going to ask. So you think they're literally working with the cartels? Yes, because I was there. She saw me. I go look for more places. No more migrants come over that day.

No more. And then like when news stations go out there a lot of times a lady that lives on the border told me that she's like no migrants came over for two days when the cnn was news it was here oh that's so sketchy she said well do you think that was camped out from in front of my house for two days and no one came over all right another devil's advocate do you think that could also be the coyotes because they're good at their job they they don't care like they're gonna make money either way like yeah but if they're bringing if they have cnn cameras all over them while they're doing this

their business could run into some problems no if they have you filming it their business could run into some problems no because the government because the united states isn't doing anything to stop them so like they have no incentive right but if but hold on let's assume for a minute that they're thinking to themselves that can change because we are talking at a time right now where it's gotten so bad that biden did actually just what what the fuck did he do again lse he called like an executive order but it's really not going to do much because it only stops migrants coming in once once they hit 2500 2500 migrants per day but he's still flying in 3,000. Right. So it's still not much, but it's like something.

Like he's literally – so what I'm saying is these guys have this crazy millions of dollars a year business where they get all these people to come across. If they know – like if I'm a guy running this business and I know there's people with serious attention with cameras right there across the border and i'm i got my eyes on that and i got a scope i don't want them seeing this because i don't want it to add up to where yeah i'm just bringing them across all the time and suddenly it starts to get out into the public and legislation happens that's why they were so mad when i got there right and but i'm saying like it could be coming from that side as opposed to these idiots at the whatever that catholic charity i don't think so. I think because if they're on the side of Mexico, like nothing's going to happen to them.

If who's on the side? Like the cartel members, if they're bringing the people over, like the coyotes, like why would they stop? I think it's just because they don't – the NGOs don't want the light to get on them when they see all these migrants coming over. Yeah, it could be. You might be right. I'm just playing devil's advocate because like I'm saying if I were, and I'm not, but I don't know how these guys think, but if I were a coyote and I had a business that I worked, you know, four days a week and every pop I did it, you know, after I cut up to the guys above me, I'm making 20 grand a pop, bringing these people across the border if i saw that you know i go over there

three straight days there's no cameras then the fourth day there's a camera i'll say i'll just wait for the fifth day or sixth day when these guys are going to draw attention or they'll just go to a different spot or go to a different spot so maybe they did that that day yeah and i'm sure they did because they don't because either way they're going to get their money like they're not going to stop a company from making two hundred thousand dollars in a day right it's not like either way that's right money and uh yeah complete chaos like it makes you mad like it may and then something even crazier so some of the migrants were over there and they got like kind of stranded at the encampment that day when i was in San Diego. They give me their piece of paper.

These Chinese guys do because they're like freaking out. Like, what's going on? Like, what are we doing? Like, how much time are we going to wait? I take a photo of that piece of paper step by step by step on what happens and where are they going, where is it coming from? In English? No, in Chinese. In Chinese.

What? Okay, so you had someone translate it. Yeah, I just used my phone. I took a photo of it and the whole paper translated. They're like, go to this bus stop. They will be waiting for you here. And then from here, they'll take you to the train. And then, and then from there, you'll be able to go to the bus stop.

And then from there, they'll take, then this NGO will be waiting for you at the, they'll be waiting for you at the bus stop and they'll take you to the airport. All right. I've been waiting to come back to this and now you just brought it up. So let's do it real quick. I have to go to the bathroom. When we get back, we're going to talk about the Chinese coming across the border. Yeah. All right. We're back. So I had heard a podcast maybe five, six years ago that Joe Rogan did with the guy who wrote the book Fentanyl Inc. You ever hear of that?

I haven't heard wrote the book fentanyl inc you ever you ever hear that uh i've heard of the book it was it was a very eye-opening podcast interview because this guy was not a drug reporter or anything like that he was like a culture reporter he wrote about like music and i forget what it was but there was some story he was assigned that then somewhere in the story someone mentioned something to him about fentanyl and he was asking him about it and then got really curious and it turned into this whole thing that turned into investigation that turned into a book and one of the things he did which was savage was he essentially just went alone himself undercover to china to the labs where they're making this stuff to see how easy it would be for him to procure it. And it was extremely easy, no strings attached or whatever.

And what he was explaining is that then it ends up in Mexico and it comes across the border. Now, we're not even getting to espionage or things like that right now with another world power who certainly doesn't see things eye to eye with us as far as our governments go. But what you're talking about at the moment is people coming across the border with directions of what to do. And we don't know who the fuck these people are. And they could – listen, they could be peddling fentanyl. I'll even say that's probably not even likely. They're probably just putting that through the Mexicans at this point with actual cartels.

But like they're probably here doing espionage things, no? Nobody knows where the Chinese people go after they cross the border. You will not see a Chinese migrant at one of the shelters. They're all going somewhere. Do they have money on them, I assume? Yes. And I talked to the lady that lives on the border. Her backyard has a big gap in it.

She says that Chinese migrants will come through and offer her money, and they'll pull out their wallets, and they'll have wads of $100 bills. And they'll be like, Wi-Fi, food, and they'll offer her money. And then she'll be like, where are you going? And they'll say, camp, camp, going to camp. Going to camp. And they're not going to camp. Think about it. Camp. Going to camp. Going to camp. And they're not going to camp. Think about it. Camp.

What kind of camp could they be going to? And they're letting all these people in. Yeah, you're saying they never end up there, though. You said that at the beginning. They never end up at the shelters, but they say they're going to camp. So what does that mean? Potentially their own military camp, potentially their own little camps where they're moving all these drugs around

or anything like that. These Chinese migrants are not... You not go to New York City and you not see Chinese migrants inside the shelters. Do they end up at the airport in that whole system where the NGOs are walking them through security? I guess not Homeland because you said Homeland only does kids. You won't see them there if if so very few i if so very few so do you have that picture of the map of the of of the directions yeah that translated can you pull that out yeah can we read

it yeah let's do it let's do that that's the best way to do it and then i'm gonna let you explain the whole thing. And can you send this to Alessi or text it to me and we'll have it on? You can airdrop it. Yeah, airdrop it to Alessi and he'll put it up on the screen right now. That's the best way to do it. Because while you're doing that, I'm going to, so that you can do that, just kind of add something here. I can't believe that it is not a bigger conversation, not even just like Chinese, but the fact that people from countries nowhere near South America are finding a way to easily get into, I guess, Mexico, right? And then come right up and cross the border in these places like it's like a worldwide thing

like oh we're going to come in here and you're looking at a situation where i'm thinking from even just the highest level espionage type scenario this is how it happens it's it's play sorry your mic's not it's just so blatant though at this point where it's like everyone knows that. It's like you're seeing Chinese, so what are they doing? They have money. It just seems so in your face where it's like this can't be real. And they're using – we always talk about like the idea of using like capitalism or democracy against us. Like our own system where they're coming from a worse system against us

this is a prime example right and so people everyone and this is something everyone no matter what the system is can respond to in the world but everyone's looking to make a buck right walk up to someone who's got a shitty house on the border or something like that you know you hand them a few hundred dollars that's paying their bills for a couple months that that lady she has nothing to do with them like she's like just happens to live there i actually did like a full interview with her and it'll come out my channel soon but uh yeah she's like this is horrible like we can't even live in our backyard with peace because we don't know who's coming through our backyard all right so here's the transition let's zoom in on this it's the first one or um yeah so that has all the directions of like all the camps

where they're going zoom in a little more because i want to read the top of that, Alessi. Okay, so it says, when our government leaves you outside without providing you with limited food, water, and medical eyes, if you find an urgent medical problem, please inform the volunteer or the patrol team immediately or call 911. You are located in one of the following camps is that a separate piece of paper so that was given to them by someone at an NGO it looks like yeah so that's giving them on the Mexican on the Mexican side who gave that to them the top one the top little piece right there uh no so so that that's all just like how it translated out so you can read it okay this is all the same paper yeah it's all the like how it translated out so you can read it. Okay. This is all the same paper?

Yeah, it's all the same paper. Okay. It's a little confusing because it looks a little different. Okay. So this is given to them by someone in the Chinese camp, I guess, on the Mexican side of the border and they cross the border with them. Yeah. All right. So it says Moon Valley, O'Neill Camp, Incopah, Exit 77, Chukumba, California.

Those are the places they come to once they cross the border. Okay. Those are four camps that you're... All right. I'm not going to read the other addresses, but it's the same thing. But the fourth one says sliders, GPS coordinates 32.58723 to 116.53124. Even precise with that. Okay. Please respect the land. Please pick up the garbage and don't burn the vegetation.

We don't know how long you will stay here. It may be a few hours or a few days. Food, water, and basic medical services will be provided once or twice a day. When you leave here, you may be taken to the local processing facility. Okay, so they may go to a facility. You were saying at some point we don't know where they are. So the first place they may go, we may know where they are. We don't know how long you need to deal with it from the facility. Be sure to wear warm clothes

during detention. Be sure to turn off your mobile phone before leaving the camp. So that's where the word camp comes from. They're calling those facilities camps, right? So they keep saying camp because obviously their people are calling these facilities, these migrant centers camps. If you travel with your family, you need to tell border patrols who you are traveling with to reduce your chances of getting separated. You should not be separated from your spouse or children. Try to be, so sometimes it is like families too, Chinese families. Okay. Try to be together until you are released. For more information on providing assistance to separated family members, please see below from the local

processing facility. You will be released or sent to an immigration detention center or fly to Texas. So some of them are flying for processing. Most people will be released to locations in San Diego or Riverside County. So real quick, before we go on, explain to me when, what it means when they say most people will be released to locations in San Diego or Riverside County. Does that mean that the centers will be like, okay, we're overrun, so you're going to go stay at this hotel? That means they'll be street released onto the streets in San Diego. And then from there, they can get it. They can do whatever they want.

Yeah, then they're free in America. Is that what percentage of people ballpark, if you had to estimate, end up being street released after they cross the border and go through this chain? All the people that come over are single, I believe, unless they get deported. Families, though, don't always get street released after they cross the border and go through this chain all the people that come over single i believe unless they get deported families though don't always get street released no i mean if any i don't see you're gonna choose between the two you'd want to put the families there because at least you have a family rather than you know maybe a solo coyote or something yeah you don't see families at those places okay Okay. And then it's crazy. Switch to the next page I sent you. Yeah. That has some really detailed information about...

All right, zoom in on this. Okay. If you are sent to an immigration detention center, if you have an immigration history or criminal record, you are more likely to be sent to an immigration detention center. How do they even know if you have a criminal record? Who even are you? You may be sent to an institution in California or other states. If you have contacts in the United States, they should use the immigration law directory link below to find someone close to you. Lawyers in the place of detention. You must pass the quote

credible fear unquote interview to be released. In this interview interview you will explain why you are afraid to return to your own country if you don't need this interview if you don't pass this interview you may be deported if you pass the trusted fear interview you will need to write a letter to a guarantor with legal status in the united states you can live with them during your asylum application then your expulsion officer will decide whether you can be released. If you are released, you will receive a court date near your guarantor's residence, which will probably be fucking five years later because they're so backed up. If you are not released, you will have to seek asylum in the detention center because a large number of immigrants cross the California border. The border patrol may take you to Texas or Arizona by plane

slash bus for processing. From there, you may be released to the community or sent to the ICE detention center if you are separated from your family during the process. So if you are released to the Holy Land, if you are released to the Holy Land, please look for the group where Al Ultralotto can immigrant defenders to, so there's a little bit of a translation issue, can immigrant defenders to help you reun a little bit of a translation issue can immigrant defenders to help you reunite with your family if you are released to a shelter in san diego or riverside the shelter staff can coordinate with a legitimate non-profit organization to help you reunite if you go to another location by plane slash bus or there is no non organization staff at the San Diego publishing site.

You can call or send a WhatsApp message to 323-542-4582 for help. If you are taken to the hospital before receiving treatment, if you have been discharged, you can call 619-800-2083, not applicable to WhatsApp. This is a hotline run by volunteers, and you can find resources according to your needs every time. If you have a passport, oh, they're bringing pass passports you're free to go to your final destination free wi-fi is available at the airport if you can't afford a hotel room while waiting for the flight it's safe to spend the night at the airport once you arrive at your destination you must find a lawyer and submit an asylum application as soon as possible but no later than one from your date from the date you entered the united states or they could just disappear if they've been let through the system and never be seen again

exactly now one thing i'll say like a lot of this seems to translate well you said you translated this with an app yeah you just take a photo of it translates all right just just for like a looking out for you journalistic integrity because there were some things just the wording it obviously is a little off have a chinese person translate this word for word so they can be translated perfectly just do that for your own good but like i obviously most of this is being translated correctly that's wild and while i'm reading it legit step-by-step instructions on what to do but i'm getting dizzy reading it there's so many different like there's so many they cover everything they cover up to the wi-fi at the free wi-fi at the airport this is a horrible example to use but i'm going to use it you know how like when you when you

catch a fish it's slippery yeah right and you already have to hold on to it this system is like having a hand standing on the edge of the ocean like on the edge of the boat and having to hand that flopping fish like to 15 different people down the line and hope someone didn't drop it that's what this is like yeah and like any and then a lot of these people they say if you have passport the majority of them rip up their passport at the border they rip it up yeah because they because once they get through these immigration centers, they can change their names. They can change their date of birth. Why even bring it in the first place?

Oh, because they had to get into Mexico in the first place. Because they had to fly into Mexico. Yeah. It's not looking too bright. And then if they do get deported, they just come right across and use a different name. And, like, they literally have them, like, tell them what to do in their interview. Can't we use, like, these facial recognition things now, though, to put them in a system?

I mean, Christ, they're using it on Twitter. They can't use it at the fucking... Hopefully I'm just being naive, but that's what I hear happens. This, like, where they're not doing that. Right. So you were saying now that because this does say some of the people do go to the airports, which makes sense, especially if they still keep their passport or something like that. It'd be easy for them to get across. But the directions are telling them to do it mostly by the book legally.

But effectively, a lot of these people we suspect are not doing that. They're not getting to a place and contacting a lawyer and seeking asylum. Once they get somewhere, they're just disappearing. I believe so. And why would they if they already know they can be there for without? Because what happens is they get these court dates and they're like a year anywhere from like a year to five years out so they have like at least that time to be here but if you just don't show up to that court date you're gone yeah you're just uh

got away like how can they find you and then if you never use actually your real name how are they ever going to find you do we have an estimate of how many people are coming across the border every day right now? Illegally? Illegally or? Illegally. Yeah, so the United States caps it out. As of like two days ago, they capped it out 5,000. What do you mean they capped it out?

Like after 5,000, they shut down the border. Oh, that's nice. So Joe Biden just came out that executive order,, but now $2,500, and then they cap it. So when you pass that Border Patrol agent on the motorcycle, this is before he put in that legislation, maybe it was $5,000 before that. Basically, he's going past you because he knows, well, we're only at $3,123 today? Pretty much. And so, like, they cap it out. But, like, so now instead of, like, with this new executive order, they're still letting in 2,500 people a day, which is a lot of people. But do you think the people are really just going to wait in Mexico?

Like, are eventually going to figure out how to come through? And so what's actually going to happen is just – Wait, what do you mean? So, like, say they can't come in that day. They're just going to wait for the next day. Oh, they're going to wait for it. Yeah. And they'll just wait for the next day until their time. Like, I went to Mexico City to see what was happening as well.

And, like, the Biden administration has also created an app called the CBP One app. The what? The Biden administration has, like, re-implemented this app called the CBP One app. And so once a migrant gets to any migrant from Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, or Haiti, they can use this app called the CBP One app. What happens is they get to the United States, they get to Mexico,

and then from Mexico they apply for that app. And then once they get the approval for the app, they are given a date to come and present themselves at U.S. Customs. And then from there they're let into date to come and present themselves at u.s customs and then from there they're let into the united states so now is am i this is different than crossing the border so is this somewhat legal yes it's like it's legal but they're still bringing in like the united states of america is literally bringing migrants into America. And not even that. But do we get their actual name, who they are? They have to give identification?

I'd hope so. But a lot of these people from these countries don't even have it because they've lost it. See, that doesn't solve the problem. No, and what makes it worse is Biden also, they are flying in 30,000 migrants a month into America. Like flying them in. From?

Mexico. What do you mean flying them in? In an airplane, through an airport. Like at Mexico City though? Or like from the border? From Mexico City, I believe, I'd imagine. Can we look this up? But then they don't, yeah, look believe, I'd imagine. Can we look this up? But then they don't.

Yeah, look up. Look at this. Biden administration flying in migrants from Mexico. Let's see if we can come up with something on that. See if there's like an article. Yeah, Daily Mail came out with one. You see something? All right.

Now, see, it's just giving us all the latest news. Go to images. Oh, images? Yeah, there should be one by the Daily Mail. Or if you want to search up Biden flying migrants from Mexico, Daily Mail. Yeah, type in at the end of Mexico, type in Daily Mail. I wanted to give Biden the benefit of doubt.

Like, oh, maybe it's actually not that bad. What's going on? All right, here we go. Biden administration admits flying 320,000 migrants secretly into the U.S. to reduce the number of crossings at the border. Has national security vulnerabilities, in quotes there. So this is from March 4th, 2024. Joe Biden's administration has admitted

transporting migrants on secret flights into the u.s and lawyers for its immigration agencies claim revealing the locations could create national security vulnerabilities customs and border protection has refused to disclose crucial information about a program last year arranging flights for thousands of undocumented immigrants from foreign airports directly to U.S. cities. It means that while record numbers of migrants were flowing over the southern border last year, the Biden White House was also directly transporting them into the country. Let's scroll down. Use of a cell phone app has allowed for the near undetected arrival. Use of a cell phone app has allowed for the near undetected arrival by air of 320,000 aliens with no legal rights to enter the U.S.

It comes after a controversy over a 2022 transportation program in which the administration used taxpayer money to move migrants throughout the country on overnight flights go down. OK, got included in details of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit first reported by Todd Brensman, the Center for Immigration Studies found Biden's CBP approved the latest secretive flights that transported hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from foreign countries into at least 43 different American airports from January through December 2023. The program was a part of Biden's expansion of the cbp one app which you just talked about which kicked off at the start of last year the migrants were able under biden's expansion to apply for asylum using the app from their home countries but the

center for immigration studies notes that the transportation of these migrants directly to the u.s is one of the lesser known uses of the app aliens who cannot enter the u.s legally use cbp1 to apply for travel authorization and temporary humanitarian release from those airports so what i want to know though because this looks bad obviously but what do they have to put into cbp1 from a identification standpoint and how legit is that and then the ones who can't who then would be requesting asylum what does the process look like for them when they get on the ground are they being street released or are they being brought to a center and actually questioned the i believe on the app they ask for their name and probably the reason and what country they're

from so if they're from nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba, Haiti, they automatically get asylum in the United States. So this app was created for them. And then once they get here, they are either put into a shelter and they're given the option pretty much between Chicago, Denver, and New York. And that's like those three sanctuary places. They're given the option. Yeah.

You get to decide. Yeah. Unless they have like another person who can host them. So like I want to give Biden the benefit of doubt like oh like maybe he's

actually trying to do that and then I saw this article and I was like okay. Yeah. This is all by design. It doesn't look good. No. Like I can keep

telling you even crazier and crazier stuff. Keep going. That's why you're here. So in California, now a migrant, when they get there, they get free healthcare, free college tuition. They get up to 20% on a down payment from the government

for a house. Free college tuition? Free college tuition. In California. Who? The state's paying that government tax dollars can we google that i met with uh on my last trip there i met with a mayor of one of the cities of el cajon right on the border and he tells me this he's like they get 20 percent down on a house payment they only have to pay back they only have to pay that back once they move out of the house and they get free college tuition free health care whoa okay so like it's not good by any means like the can't wait go up real fast oh california but but do college tuition type for yeah yeah and then they also pay for sex changes college tuition but migrants and immigrants

no no for immigrants because it just says california taxpayer dollars for college tuition I need for immigrants. Okay. New law could get more. Okay. Hit that one. New law. Go up. Go up.

Many California undocumented students are missing out on financial aid. An easier new application could get them more money. Go down. So they're undocumented. So they're not citizens. Each year, more than 35,000 undocumented students with dreams of earning a college degree in California apply for the state's marquee financial aid program, the Cal Grant, but only about a third receive it. With no access to federal financial and few work opportunities, losing out on state dollars further undermines the ability of undocumented students to pay for school.

The Cal Grant, for example, weighs tuition at California's public universities and provides cash awards of about $1,650 to community college students. Well, that's not full tuition, but that's something. Now, after several years of advocacy and state law passed this year, California financial aid administrators are about to debut a revised application meant to get more college grants for undocumented students. So they are paying something where they can apply to it. So essentially, people who then are admitting that they're undocumented admitting that they weren't born here they came here illegally which i do think is is it's tough when you know you were brought here not under your own recognizance

when you were two or three years old and this is the only country you know but they're admitting that they weren't born here and then saying give me. And then the taxpayer is giving them money to go to college. Yeah, it's essentially like rewarding people for breaking the law. If you're a migrant and you live in Venezuela and you hear that this is all happening here in the United States, why wouldn't you come to America? Yeah, I agree. Why wouldn't you? And their biggest fear is that Donald Trump gets reelected. Because once that happens, Donald Trump has claimed to shut down.

So in these upcoming four or five months until the election, there's going to be a lot, a lot of border crossings. Well, now he's trying to, he's making the appearance that he's trying to limit it. Yeah, but 2,500 people, that's still a lot. More than 500,000 a year. What I don't understand, though, this is what I've never understood. Border Patrol agent, ICE agent, whatever. The people who are on there looking at it every day.

Their job is if they see them coming across, it's not to fucking shoot them or be an asshole or something. But the job is to be like, okay, you're coming with me. You're here illegally. That was their job. Right. shoot them or be an asshole or something but the job is to be like okay you're coming with me you're here illegally that was their job right but we have developed a system over the last three four decades whatever it is now there's escorting people to where not even escort forget that because you're right that does happen but i'm saying like even just they see people coming across and they just go okay can't do it yet today that's crazy it's really bad and like they're getting their orders like i'm like the border patrol agents like you go down

there and you can tell they're like are fired up about what's going on too like they're angry because they're not even allowed to do their job right they when they became border patrol agents i'm sure they all thought like okay we're going to protect this border. We're going to protect our land. We're going to protect America. But now they're being told, because it's not, there's like three levels to it. There's like, first it goes the White House, like Donald, or not Donald Trump.

It goes, first it goes the White House, and like Joe Biden and his administration. And then it goes Homeland Securities. And then it goes Border Patrol. So Border Patrol gets there. They get all their commands from the top two. And right now this is what they're giving them to do. Like let them in.

Once we get to our account, we'll close the border for the day. Have you done content where you interview, even if they're blurry face border patrol guys, they can't speak to you. They can't guys they can't speak to you they can't they can't talk to you i've talked to the vice president of the border patrol council which is different i think it's just like a group of retired border patrol agents that are not trying to do stuff um that this is my my first time ever at the border he said it's all cartel ran

that all these people are coming over they're bringing over drugs everything like that and nothing's being stopped nothing's being done to stop it like it just like kind of makes you mad like there's the human part of the migrant situation as you guys saw in that clip of me crying like it makes you really sad and then to know that like the government is like facilitating all this. And now to go deeper into the loophole, Mexico just re Mexico just elected this new president, this new woman president that is like super progressive, like socialist.

And there were 12, there were 12 candidates before her that got offed. That were killed. that was awfully interesting. Who do you think she's working for? And if she is a high socialist, if that's what they're saying, and then they're the people that allow people to come to the border, like they're the main, they're our border, Mexico,

and say Joe Biden gets reelected, there's probably going to be some weird things going on. Yeah, I strongly doubt that Biden will be reelected because he's so... I don't know. I don't know. You still think he could... I'm just looking at this purely analytically. I don't... Like, after what they've done to Trump, they've made him popular with people.

Yeah, Trump's probably more popular than ever. But I also make videos where I go ask people who they're voting for on my YouTube channel, and the majority all say Biden. Where are you asking? Harvard. New York City? Harvard, they're all Biden. New York City.

Oh, yeah, of course. Duh. Biden. Even in Compton, some of them are Biden. Yeah, but this is where he already did you know they're gonna vote that way yeah but you think like after seeing all this stuff they would be like oh like i saw videos where you interviewed people in new york from different backgrounds who on your videos where they said no i'm voting for trump yeah you would have never heard that four

years ago yeah a lot of people were like i've switched yeah now i think it's a joke like i think new york like is more republican than most people think but i think like the leaders the state or the city i've never been outside of new york city so probably in new york city like new york city's got some really cool people like i love new york and the people yeah and uh it's great yeah a lot of people are fed up like new yorkers tell you tell you how it is which is Yeah, a lot of people are fed up. Like New Yorkers tell you how it is, which is awesome. And a lot of them are like, now it's like, let's go for Trump. So there are some people saying that. Yeah, and some in New York.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, there are some people. And you're talking about hot button type places where it's like, you know, just like if you went out in the middle of a rural country, they're likely to vote right. You go into the middle of an urban center, they're likely to vote left. You're still going to have people that ideologically vote. Like when we talk about a blowout in this country, the biggest blowout was like I think Reagan on Mondale in 1984. He won like 500 electoral votes or something.

Mondale still got more than 40 percent of the vote, right? It's a small shift that makes it a large move because it you know five percent moves from one side to the other it makes ten percent but you look at it right now i i don't i don't know like trump is such a flawed candidate it would have been so easy to not have him threaten to get in there again if the Democrats, A, just let him be and let him talk because that's what he does. B, didn't make him a victim if they're going to go after him, which is what they've now done. And C, had any level of competence running for that office, which they don't have. They have a dead guy as president.

I mean he can't talk let's just call this what it is right and his vice president not exactly very talented right so they are running these horrible people so when you say like i'm looking at it analytically i don't i don't see the the only thing that could prevent trump from winning is if Robert F. Kennedy stole a fuck ton of votes from him and after they just gift wrapped Trump a 34 piece present which is effectively what they did with that joke of a convention of a conviction I I think his popularity is high now a lot can change in the next five months but but his popularity is high enough. He's going to get most of those votes.

Robert F. Kennedy is now like an afterthought. Yeah, if anything, Robert F. Kennedy is helping Donald Trump because he's taking more people from Biden. I disagree with that completely. Really? Yeah. No, but Robert F. Kennedy is now – he was kicked out of the Democratic Party effectively. He's running as an independent. He is a traditional liberal there's a lot of things he says that i agree with but he is a guy who

trade he attracted a lot of people who maybe can't stand the democratic Party but don't like Trump. That's number one. And number two, he also hit on the anti-vax crowd, which is much more largely on the right side, people who think of that. So I disagree that he'd be stealing from Biden more. I used to be more open on that, but I think it would be more from Trump. That said, Trump is now – they have made him popular in light of making him a victim and that has changed the game and i think i've seen it just it's only been whatever a couple weeks few weeks since his conviction or whatever but i've seen the change in vibe instantaneously from people caring about kennedy like it's been instantaneous online really yeah i see online but when i talk to people no one mentions kennedy um but don't you think with the last name kennedy he'll because the kennedys are

democrats don't you think that people just like oh maybe biden's not the best option his whole family's come out and made videos against them but like like literally his whole family's come out and said don't ever vote for him and they're all – Don't vote for – Bobby Kennedy. Really? Oh, yeah. You haven't seen this? Can we pull up a video of Bobby Kennedy's family?

Kennedy family speaks out against Bobby in support of Biden. I want you to see this. His whole – literally his whole family is like he's an idiot. And I don't agree with what they're doing to him. I think that's totally wrong and I don't think the guy is an idiot. I'm just don't agree with what they're doing to him. I think that's totally wrong, and I don't think the guy's an idiot. I'm just saying that's what they're doing. This video, I think this is old now. Why do you think Bobby's even running?

He knows he's not going to win. Well, I think he actually got to a point. You've got to remember when he decided to run um he had gotten to a point where the main thing people were freshly angry about was covet and the vaccine and he was the og you know vaccine guy and so i think he felt like because it was the top button issue at the time not to say it's not something people still won't talk about and have an issue with it absolutely is like because it was the top button issue at the time, not to say it's not something people still don't talk about and have an issue with. It absolutely is. But because it was the top button issue at the time, he could kind of hit on that.

And I'll say like he got to a point where he was polling at – I think it was 22 percent in a Quinnipiac poll in October 2023 in a three-way race. And when I saw that, I said, whoa. But it's like he shot his load too early. Like he hit Joe Rogan last summer in 2023, hit the podcast circuit then, and then was doing so many podcasts that like now when he's on one, it's not like a big deal to people, and he just went too early with it. I feel like if he can't get on the debate stage, it's going to get really hard. Yeah.

And so I don't know if he'll be able to get the opportunity to debate either because it's going to be Biden and Trump. There's a video here of his grandson speaking out, and then there's just articles of just them tweeting stuff. Really? There's a video. It's a commercial. There's Kerry Kennedy who says she's going to endorse Biden.

Yeah. There's a commercial of all of them going one by one, like introducing themselves. Really? Yeah. Hold on. We're going to take a pause for one second. I want to find this video.

We'll be right back. All right. We're back. I got the video now. I just texted it to Alessi, so he's going to stick it up on the screen over here. This was what I was talking about. It's effectively like an ad. We got the volume on.

Right over there. All right. You got to turn the volume on on Twitter. It's not on. Go back to the beginning and turn the volume on. My name is Joe Kennedy. I'm Carrie Kennedy. I'm Lori Kennedy. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend. Chris beginning. Here we go. My name is Joe Kennedy. I'm Kerry Kennedy. I'm Lori Kennedy. I'm Kathleen Kennedy Townsend. Chris Kennedy. And I'm here to proudly endorse Joe Biden. Joe Biden. Joe Biden. Our future is on the ballot in a way in which we haven't seen in generations. The only way to win this election is for everybody to go out and vote for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

When I think of modern politicians in our country in this century, I think Joe Biden is the RFK of his generation. Believes in democracy, believes in human rights, believes in their freedoms. This is a president who embodies the Kennedy legacy. My name is Joe Kennedy. That see it. Yeah, I'm surprised you haven't seen that. How much do you think they got paid for that? It's a good question, but I'll bet nothing. Because look, it's from Joe Biden. Yeah, I'll bet they got tapped on the shoulder and said, listen, you're going to go in here and say this.

No way. That is crazy. Yeah. I've never seen that video before. Kennedy doesn't really pop up in my feed that much the people who i'll tell you the exact profile the people who come and bring up rfk to my face without me asking about it they're males between the ages of like 21 and 26 and they're usually like middle class caucasian males who at this point i'd say like

lean right and those are the people who want to vote for him but i i think a lot of them aren't going to vote for him i think i again a lot can change in the next five months four months whatever it is but you're talking about you know the government really going after trump which is making him it that's what it does it pushes him right into people's arms i've been saying this forever i said it with jim diorio back on episode 113 after that raid like it literally it's like they want him in office that's how it feels yeah it's gonna be weird yeah so but you brought this up talking about the new president mexico and her being really lax on this stuff or whatever i don't know too much about her i've just

seen like some of the stuff but i do find it really interesting when i saw like the fact that 12 other presidential candidates were killed off before her yeah what was there were other numbers too like there were a record number of murders in general or something that occurred. Today, one of the mayors of one of the popular cities there also died. Yeah. So that's not good. Like I don't know why any government ever tries to do socialism because it never works. If you look at any country that's ever done it.

It doesn't. It's like. It doesn't. It never works. If you look at any country that's ever done it. It doesn't. It's like, it never works. I mean, look at Venezuela. Yeah, no, there's no example of it working. It's like, why do they think they're going to be able to fix it? Why do they think they're going to make it work? People try to point to very small countries in Europe that they're not fully socialist, but like lean socialists, they'll talk about like Sweden and Norway and stuff.

And it's like, I don't remember the populations offhand but you're talking very small populations small gdps of you know one type of ethnicity that lives there as well it's not relatable now are there like can places forgetting socialism for a second can places have better systems of criminal correction and stuff like that? Sure. But like when you're talking about – when you then try to say, oh, look, they have free healthcare. Well, how good are their doctors? Does anyone go to Norway for fucking treatment for cancer? No, right?

So it doesn't work. It's just fascinating to me that throughout human history, we try these things over and over again. And I always say like fascism and socialism or fascism and communism are the same thing. They're just – they're right next to each other on the political circle and they think they're the opposite. Like why people can't see that, I don't know. I have no idea. It worries me too, especially with them being so close to America and like we know that that stuff like you're saying

it doesn't ever work and it's just going to bring more people into America and then if you think about like the ties like they're next to California who's the governor of California what does he believe in probably very similar to what she believes in yeah he don't believe in shit he's told what to do

that guy doesn't stand for anything and then then going to like the election stuff like he most likely will be the next option after biden you think yeah like they've already talked about it like unless michelle obama pops back up somehow that would be crazy it's like gonna be so i'm like pretty excited to see what happens in these next few months excited like it's gonna be some crazy stuff i don't know if excited is the word but it's yeah i'm very interested i hope yeah i that's fair i i i hope there's not i hope there isn't crazy stuff but unfortunately i agree with you i think there's probably gonna be some crazy shit going on yeah i wouldn't be surprised if like we start seeing a bunch of riots and like think about what's gonna happen here in new york when, say, Donald Trump does win,

and the migrants are going to go crazy because he's going to try to deport all of them. There's going to be, I believe, there'll probably be BML riots, but... Are they still around? Who? BLM? They still kicking it?

They're at the Palestine protest. But are they taglining themselves as BLM? They have the flag sometimes out there. But it's like the same people that were doing those protests are now doing the Palestine protests. They're just hopping from protest to protest. Yeah, absolutely. Have you looked into those at all?

Yes, and you actually just did some content at some of the New York City Israel-Palestine College Campus protests, right? Yeah. Okay. You want to pull that up a little less? There's two of them. protests at some of the new york city israel palestine college campus protests right yeah okay you want to pull that up a less there's two of them there's one that went super viral on youtube there's this one there's that one and i did one on my second channel that got a lot of views as well oh you did one i didn't see one on your second channel and it got like one million views okay let's what was different about them that one's like a way way more upbeat and quick just like asking college students why they're protesting but oh yeah let's go to that

so nick shirt what's your second channel called nick shirley interviews nick shirley if you just scroll all the way down on this channel it's right there all right grab that go why are we the second one yeah 1.2 all right let's see this bad boy. After Tony Robbins finishes his ad and we turn on the volume. Outside of a Palestine protest, and today we're going to be asking these students why they are protesting. Because I've seen videos, and I don't know if all these students understand exactly why they're here or if they're just joining the crowd. I want to know if they actually understand why they are protesting

and see if they can give me any good answers. What are you guys out here protesting for? No comment. Why are you guys out here today? Thanks to the organizers. Why can't I? I wanted to ask you. Official statements from the organizers only. In the simplest terms, why are you guys protesting? Why are you guys out here today? To speak to the organizers. Why can't I? I wanted to ask you. Official statements from the organizers only. In the simplest terms, why are you guys protesting?

Why are you guys protesting today? I don't think it would be a good idea if we... Why are you guys protesting? Just to be a part of the cause. And what's the cause? I'm not the right person to talk to you about anything. We're not the spokespeople of this event. It's the wrong people to talk to you about anything.

I'm not asking for the spokesperson. I'm just asking why you guys are protesting. Even though we would call the police if we're in trouble, the police are a repressive system. They do not do any good for any community. They are not stopping crime. Police arrive after crime has been committed. We fund the police as if they solve all the community's problems.

We should defund the police and put that money towards community resources like mental health, drug addiction, rehabilitation, schools, community community programs and it would keep people out of committing crimes the cops all they do is try to get as many brown and black people into the prison system because in mass incarceration these days is really just modern day slavery so even if i might call the cops if i need help the cops the police the way that system runs the police do more bad than they do good but you would call them if you need them yes so why are you guys protesting today i don't want to talk to press i'm sorry i don't really want to talk why are you guys protesting here today i don't want to do this So, hold on. from the university for speaking out against the apartheid state of Israel. And if they do not divest, will you guys be willing to drop out of this university? Well, that's the issue, is that I am here for a better education.

And if I don't receive this education, in some ways I feel like I'm not doing my duty to the world by bettering myself and bettering the world through my knowledge about these injustices throughout the world. What percentage of these students do you believe actually know why they're protesting? A hundred percent. Maybe 90 at the lowest. Do you know why you are protesting here today? Yes. And what is that reason? No comment.

Why can only the organizers speak about what's going on here? No comment. Why not? No comment. We will not stop! We will not rest this law! Divest! We will not stop!

We will not rest this law! Divest! What would you like them to divest from? Hmm? What would you like them to divest from? Fordham has a, they don't release where they're, where they're putting any of their money. It's very secretive, and so we want them not only to divest, but more importantly, disclose. Is that the main reason why you guys are here?

Because you want the school to divest from? I'm just an independent person here. I'm sorry, I don't think I'm supposed to talk to you. And who tells you guys you can't speak to other people? It's not like that. Great question. Because there was a genocide going on of the Palestinian people, and 17,000 people have been killed.

Hey, she's letting me talk to her. And so why are you protesting today? Again, because 17,000 people have been killed. So that's why. And for the school to divest in funding companies that are providing Israel with weapons and arms. What companies would you guys like the school to divest from? That's all. Do you think the majority of these college students know exactly why they are protesting?

The majority of them know nothing. I grew up in Israel. I moved here 27 years ago. I've been to explosions. I've been to the shit. I don't believe in any God. I don't believe in any government. I don't believe in any government. I believe in people.

None of those people got their info. Okay? This is something that's been going on for years. None of them has anything to do with it. And none of them is going to lose anything. Where my parents sit on their missiles. Not bullets. Missiles.

So what I think about it, I think that's what white kids in America do. We have a country that's so good here, buddy, that we have time to bitch and moan. Yeah. And you don't need to sit in the shelter and hope it's not landing on you. That's the reality. And do you think any of these students would be willing to go to where the problem is actually happening there? No. A hundred percent no. To basically take it over to school. Yeah results to these protests no one in israel sees this they see this two minutes a day no one got like even electricity you'll see this you want to know you should know that's all like everything in your simplest terms why are you guys protesting right now i'm not going i'm not going to give you like a specific answer i have my own reasons

all right pause it right there some of our tuition goes to that so this is really some of your questions are really good and like I think you're highlighting an issue here, which is that I have a lot of issues with this conflict. Of course, I'd like to see it end. I think some of it is just – it's horrible. The whole thing is horrible. But literally the worst people in the world are the people who show up at these things because they have no idea what they're talking about. The saddest part is people who are like sympathetic of of palestinians and gaza right now i'm with you but i'm not none of these people have any idea what's actually happening they're just doing it because they

think it's a cool thing to do and frankly like i hate to be this guy but most of them are like not good looking and cast offy looking. And I think this is like their best hope to like be a part of something instead of like being a cool kid. Something that's extremely interesting, I learned this after the fact of filming these videos, is that the majority of those people are part of the LGBTQ plus community. In Palestine, they wouldn't even survive. Yeah, they'd literally be whacked.

It's, so it's like, do they even realize why they're doing that? Like if I'm a person part of that community and I hear that that's the community I'm trying to support right now, I would not be there. You'd be like, you're crazy. Why would I support somebody that would kill me? Yeah. And like, I get the, the, like what, like the sadness of everything. But, um, I also talked to like people that are pro-Israel and they say some stuff.

And like I – like there's extreme bias. Oh, yeah. So it's like – I heard your other video. There was – I was like trying to pause it to fact check the whole thing because there was one guy just – everything you said. I'm like that's wrong. That's wrong. That's wrong.

That's what happens. Yeah. Both sides. And so, like, and it's kind of like talking to somebody from the right and talking to somebody from the left. A hundred percent. And, like, these people seem obviously, like, not my crowd. So, it's like, who do I want to hang out with? They're not in the church out there with you?

No. That has nothing to do with it. But, like, it's like they don't really know what they're doing, and they're just kicking rocks, yelling stuff, saying, F the police. I don't support that at all. And, yeah, it's like why are you guys protesting for something and for somebody that wouldn't even support you?

Unfortunately, we're at a point. This comes up on a lot of podcasts now, but it's relevant to bring it up and I like to hear how different people think about it. But we're at a point where we've always had it really good in this country. I often say this country outside of the war of 1812 has never been invaded and it really shows. Obviously, there's been an attack like Pearl Harbor and 9-11. Hold that thought for a second. and it really shows you know obviously there's been an attack like pearl harbor 9-11 hold that thought for a second but what happens is we get so stuck on our little island over here where we have it so good in many ways comparatively speaking geographically speaking that we

when we don't see a lot of these things up close something like this isn't in our backyard you know the best we do is look through a social media feed that's algorithmically trained to give us what we want to see next you know we get real comfortable and unfortunately it's almost like every time this country doesn't have an enemy to unite around or something horrible happened, which I do not want to see happen in any way, like Pearl Harbor, like a 9-11, you know, we turn in on ourselves. We talked about other ways this happens earlier, and those are relevant. But as a society, we turn in on ourselves and we start pointing the finger at everything internally and things that may have an issue, right?

For example, there may be some issues with policing. It's not enough to say, oh, there may be some issues but the institution is important. Instead, you have to say, fuck the whole thing. We're not using it. Right? Fuck them. And it creates this vitriol and hatred. And I wonder, like do you think that at this point in human history we can live in a world where we don't have some sort of common war to fight somewhere else that brings us together

in order for us to actually have a conversation? Do you think that's still kind of what it takes? In order to like how to bring us together? Yeah. Like do you think we need an enemy? Do you think we like – I'm not asking this because I want to. I'm asking this because I'm curious to see what you think. You're out there on the streets talking to people.

I don't think we need like something like this to unite. I think we just need to like respect everybody and what they believe in and respect each person for being a human being and not pick a side, whether it's, are you pro-Palestinian? Are you pro-Israeli? Are you for Trump? Are you for Biden? There needs to be some sort of common ground, but we know that's just not going to happen. But I think American people people if they don't

want to if they don't want to support america go somewhere else if you want to be here in america stay but if you're not going to support america get out yeah like a lot of these college students that are at these things like they might like support america but if you want to really support those people over there screaming at a wall at a college is not going to do anything. It's not going to do anything. Anything. And it's like my five-year-old cousin knows that that's not going to do anything. And there's 100 college students that are paying 50 grand a year to do that.

Yeah, they feel broken. In your other video, and I always see this at protests, but the other one you did on your main channel, I think there was a point where they were like forming a human chain to keep people out who they thought weren't in and the way that the leader had to chant each thing they were going to do and made the people chant back it's i mean it sounds like 1984 when you see stuff like that like people who literally are fucking robots like will do what person in that video says it is a little scary to see that.

Now they're young. Like I was dumb when I was young. These are all 19, 20 year old kids. But still, like some of them are at good schools, right? Like they're supposed to have a brain up there. Yeah. Like my parents want me to go to college. I'm like, I see these college students right here.

I don't want to go to college to hang out with these type of people. Yeah. I mean, this isn't all of them. But I know what you're saying. It's crazy. I don't know what's going to happen with all this stuff. I mean, I guess we can only watch and I'll do my best to show what's happening and let other people decide what sides they're going to pick.

Yeah. And I've heard people talk about the arguments that like, oh, if you're someone who's here to go to college but you're not from here, you know, you shouldn't even be doing this because you're not constitutionally protected. I guess there's legal arguments with that. But it is, it's a little annoying. Like, and that's obviously not most of the people you talk with here, but it's a little annoying when you hear, like, you got foreign exchange students who are out here screaming, fuck the U.S. and shit. It's like, get out. It's – yeah, like, what are you doing here? And they're getting free – and, like, the majority of them are getting free college anyways. It's like, get out.

Yeah. It's not fair to everybody else. And, like, at that school, at Fordham University, for example, I'm sure there's other people just like, man, other people just like me and you heard like what a lot of people like that are like that and they're and because that small group outside they're not going to be able to go to their classes like uh presently like they're gonna have to do it virtually and so like they're not getting their full college experience either like imagine going to columbia university where you pay 80 to 90 grand and then you're doing online Zoom calls. Oh, it's brutal.

And like also, you know, listen, you can disagree with how Israel is handling this thing. I have enormous disagreements with how Israel is doing this. Jewish students on campuses are like being harassed and, you know, in some cases like have shit thrown at them and stuff and are afraid that like that is so wrong on every level. And this is a line my friend Eric Zolger has and I fucking love it. He's like people are not their governments. And we got to start remembering it. Like it's dehumanizing to see it and that's what these kids at these stupid fucking protests are doing you know they're stopping jewish students from going to class they're they're i mean it you know it's like

hearkens back to worst times they're screaming discrimination while they're discriminating that's exactly right and that's not right so it's so hypocritical it's so hypocritical i'm so tired of seeing this on on like something something happens where these kids even before they get to campus they feel they feel some level of like entitlement to their to their beliefs where it's at the at the expense of other people's beliefs and that that insults my intelligence. Yeah, it kind of just makes you mad. It can make me mad. It's like when, if you're driving on the highway

and there's a pro-Palestinian protest that's stopping traffic when you're trying to go to work, you're like, bro, come on. Yeah, you're not having the... Like you're not helping anybody. Yeah, you're not having the intent effect you want. Yeah. And it's amazing when you talk,

I mean, you've been there, I don't know how much of the history you know but i guarantee you even just based on some of these kids not being able to get an answer of why they were there like if you ask them any of the history of this stuff including the history that supports their cause they don't know it yeah i mean they're literally like speak to our organizer i'm like okay who's the organizer i go to the organizer? I go to the organizer. Oh, go speak to the, I can't speak. It's like, they have no idea what they're doing. And then it just makes you mad.

It's like, are you kidding me? Like, come on, I want to speak to somebody. Like, I'm actually trying to know the truth about what's going on and why you guys are doing this, and no one will give me a response. And then you guys are getting extremely hostile with me. Like, one lady pushes my mom in that video, tries to kick the camera. I didn't see that. Yeah, my mom's filming it.

And so my mom comes with me everywhere for the videos. It's kind of funny, right? That's pretty cool. And yeah, they go after my mom. Like, hey, get out. She's letting us film. And push my mom. Inside the encampment in Columbia, I snuck into there.

What was that like? Bro, they were so rude to me like i was literally just trying to give them like a chance to like share what's going on i'm like the encampment that's amazing i was like i was trying to help them like like with my videos i always try to let anybody that wants to speak or anybody that's like doing something share their truth and like i keep my videos very very raw try to let anybody that wants to speak or anybody that's like doing something share their truth. And like, I keep my videos very, very raw. Like I'm not trying to click, I'm not trying to make a video where it's like extremely high pace where it's like only blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm trying to like, let feel like voice themselves. And, uh, like inside that encampment in Columbia, they just wouldn't speak to me. They're like, the organizers speak to the organizers.

And then eventually, like, four, like, moms, like, 50-year-old woman came up and surrounded me. Like, are you filming? Moms. Yeah, like, I don't know who they were. They start, like, are you filming? I'm like, yeah. Or I'm like, I'm not filming. I'm following the community guidelines I said I was going to follow when I entered in because they had, like,

Oh, they had community guidelines. Yeah, community guidelines. said i was going to follow when i entered in because they had like i was like oh they had community community guidelines nice nice and i was like okay i'll like i'll abide by him and so i asked everybody in there like can i film you none of them said told me i could and i had like a little microphone on and had i forgot to turn her off and the light was on they freaked out they surround me they made me give them my id and like take a photo of my id which was extremely stupid of me to do. I had no idea. Oh, so you gave it to them? I didn't give it to them. I let them take a photo.

I was like, screw you guys. Well, that is giving it to them. Yeah. And yeah, I didn't know on your ID cards. I didn't know it had like your address underneath it. Oh, you and Elon Musk. So I was like, frick. That's unfortunate.

But yeah, you talk about like these people not knowing who. Like, oh, we were just told. It's so robotic. It comes from a guy above a guy above a guy. But they don't even know where it is. It's coming from some organizing camp that has other chaos-driven reasons to make this shit happen. And like I don't agree – what's happening is because some of the worst people are doing this, the people who are on the other side, not on the campuses, right? So people who are like really pro-Israel are using this as a jumping point to like try – some people, not all people, but some are trying to use it as a jumping point to prevent anybody talking about this issue or protesting towards it.

I disagree with that, but I understand where their anger is coming from because they have people of their own ethnicity who are afraid to even go to class. They're being abused by these people, and this is a crisis we're going to be dealing with our entire lives. It's never going to go away. The disagreement in the Middle East is going to be that way and it's like and like what and what information do we get like i have a hard time even like covering or like talking about like i don't want to give any opinions because i really don't have that many opinions about it because i don't know anything about it like do we know do we know what media we're getting from these people and like if we do or is it even true and so that's why i was generally interested to try to talk to

these kids at the college, but none of them would speak to me. And so like when you're doing that kind of like boils up a little fire in you, like it makes you a little mad. And so like, um, like I never was rude to them, but I'm like, so why are you guys here? And then I keep asking more and like speak to the organizers. It's like, I'm actually trying to understand what you guys are doing. And the only people that speak to me are the pro israelis and uh like and i tend for that to happen to me in a lot of my videos like only

people to speak to me will be a large part of the time like people from the right a lot of people from the left like they're like scared to speak to you yeah because if you ask them a question they probably won't know why they're doing what they're doing yeah especially in a place like that though yeah especially so i don't know 18 year olds it's like they're they just got like extremely defensive and stuff it's like come on like if you're out here let me know why like if i go to a basketball game i'll tell you why i'm going to basketball game so i'm going to watch my favorite player i appreciate you saying that though that like if you don't know as much about something you you're not going to like on the border, you've been covering that forever, but you're not over there covering this war or something, you know, or following it as closely, I should say, you know, you're not going to inject as much of an opinion on it. It just, unfortunately, those people don't behave the same way. And that's, that's what's really sad. But I mean I don't know. I wonder sometimes where this stuff comes from and what the end goal is other than just chaos.

But these are the types of things that just – they sow attitudes that then live forever in people. So there's always going to be people now who see everyone who supports palestine is like those idiots right there there's always going to be people who see everyone who supports israel as fucking mariam adelson asking trump to annex the west bank right and that's it's hard because those are the only people that are like willing to be like seen like i'm sure there's like a lot of other people that are like really peaceful and they like really want what like the pro-palestine people that like know their stuff but they're not going to be there out in the street because they realize it's probably not going to do much right yeah and so it's just like uh yeah it's interesting like when i do those videos i try to like go and not really have much opinion like learn like when i went to the border for the first time i had no idea what's happening i just went and spoke to

people um doing the same thing when i go to like when i went to kensington philadelphia um oh yeah you did go there but you couldn't release the video right no not yet monetized yeah and so like i go to these places and i don't really do a ton of research before because i just want to like first get like the baseline of information from the people at the spot before you get like the bias from some article or from some other youtube or and what was kensington like crazy i've never seen something like that like that drug drink that they're mixing or that like the fentanyl and like the xylodine the drink that's getting mixed in the thing like that's scary oh yeah it's scary and i like talk to people when they're on it like they're nodding off and like they just snap out of it like that is weird and then i saw one lady like no i i'm done with this like i'm never gonna do it and

then she does it and she just starts like hallucinating and freaking out and i had to like hold her and like put her on the ground your mom was there with you for this no i don't take my mom when i do those sort of ones okay those those are videos are pretty dangerous to film honestly oh yeah and like the homeless like the migrants they're nice people um a lot of times the homeless to do those sort of ones okay those those are videos are pretty dangerous to film honestly oh yeah and like the homeless like the migrants they're nice people um a lot of times the homeless people are not on not uh sober and they're like very good gets nasty gets nasty like they'll start throwing stuff at you and it's not as fun to be around yeah now did you say earlier did i catch this you there you got into a secret migrant camp in New York?

Is that what you said? Yeah, so this loop around here in New York City, we're going, there's over 200, like 200 migrant encampments. In New York City. In New York City, just alone in the five boroughs. And so this video that I'm going to be coming out with in these upcoming weeks is we went and found like a bunch of the secret migrant shelters that are in New York city. And where, well, you're not going to reveal where they are, but how did you, how did you find them? Um, if they got mopeds outside and if there's people just puttering around outside of a hotel, it's a migrant cabinet. It's a migrant shelter. Meaning like if you see people who are clearly migrants outside

of there. Yeah. And they're up, they don't have, cause the migrants here in New York city, they cannot do anything. Like they don't get the migrants here in New York City, they cannot do anything like they don't get work permits and they're backlogged so long for asylums and they get free rent in a lot of these places, especially if you're a family. You can stay inside a hotel for months on end. And and how's this work? Did the government did the city government just tell hotels you're now migrant shelters?

Here's a here's a stipend. Oh, hotels love it because they get guaranteed money every single night night and it's full so like hotels are probably making more than they ever made yeah it's taxpayer dollars going to it and uh the hotels are like at this one in bronx that we found there was three that were right next to each other they were getting brand new furniture like the migrants were getting like the newest furniture inside of these shelters and a lot of these a lot of these people are being bussed in though too right yeah i think a large majority of these migrants are um like texas as soon as they get in there they get them out like they ship them they give them the option denver chicago or new york yeah i look i know a

lot of it is like political playing but like i also get it because the states who have to live with it then have the influence coming into the politics of the states that don't have to live right on the border and they're like okay you want to taste your own medicine here you go yeah i i get that you know in new york like mayor adams he like uh like i think he deserves more credit than people give him. Yeah, I agree. Because he didn't make the sanctuary law policy. It was made a long time ago. And then he's actually done a pretty decent job of somehow figuring out a way to take care of all these migrants. It just sucks because it costs so much money.

And there is secrecy in it and weird stuff like that. But yeah like the shelters popping up everywhere they're they're having to have the migrants out on islands they've legit built on islands on randall's island they've built it like half the island is dedicated to the migrants um on like another place in floyd bennett fields like a huge like four giant tents with like a thousand up to like 600 people in each i heard about that one yeah that one's pretty crazy is there crime going on at these places too oh yeah like um i did a video where i like lived with a migrant for like 24 hours and i just like can we put him up

took him about and about like they wouldn't let me sleep inside the shelters or anything like that but he's like america has let in all of the garbage from every other country and he's like he's like one of my people i was sleeping with was stealing clothes and it made me so mad because we're here um second channel it's right here it says uh go down to the left we wish we never came all right that one all right let's turn this on I can exchange a concert ticket if I... And he essentially says, like, America has let in all the garbage into America. It's not going to get any better.

You go to, like... From this moment on... Where he wants to go? This is a long video. So, like, this migrant right there... What do you do during the day? During the day, nothing. So skip to, like, maybe, like, like three minute mark?

Three minutes. Or you see you mean him walking in. All right. Good. So he talks about how bad the service is. The rules that they make, the food is terrible. So many things. Did you have a family in Ecuador?

Yes, I have a wife there and my two children. Where are they? They're in Ecuador. I'm alone here in this country. How did you make the decision to leave your country to come here knowing that you were going to leave your family there in Ecuador? After I had anonymous calls, threatening calls, and also extortions, I experienced many there in Ecuador. And your idea was to come here and work to send money back to

your family? Of course, I came here to work. First work and do things correctly in this country. In this country, you have to do things very correct. Why are a lot of single-age men coming here without their families? Because I didn't have the money to bring my family. And right now, if you had the opportunity to leave New York, would you leave or stay? Of course, if there was an opportunity to go somewhere else, I would go. Now I realize that everything is not as good as it

sounds. You think you'll be able to come to the USA and get two jobs and work until 10 at night, but the reality is that it's very, very hard, very difficult. Can you imagine Americans wanting to do that? It's not the same as I thought it would be. Life here is different. It's different. Here in this country, I can earn $200 in a day. And that $200 I would make in one day in Ecuador. What I can earn here is $200 a day.

I could earn in Ecuador in my business and other things. So you're actually earning less money here than in Ecuador? Yeah, I make the same that I made in Ecuador. Why don't you leave to go back to Ecuador? Because it is very dangerous in Ecuador. Ecuador is very dangerous. This is what he talks about. There are many people who come to do bad, to make people look bad. There are many people from Venezuela who have come to this country to do bad things,

and for everyone, we pay the price, all migrants. There are many people who came to do evil. The country has now collected all the garbage that comes from other countries. All garbage that comes from other countries, All garbage that comes from other countries the United States collected. Many people with bad backgrounds. There in Ecuador and Venezuela they were criminals. Here they are not.

Interesting. In one shelter I stayed with an Ecuadorian migrant. He even lived next to me. That person came stealing every day. Shoes, clothes, and it made me angry. I was right about to report him to the police so they could take everything he had stolen, but it made me furious that he did not come here to do good in this country rather than he came to do evil.

All right, let's close it. Let's cap it right there. Okay. Yeah, so, you know, there you go. So, like, America's letting just so many people and nobody knows who's coming in. And, like, he said legit, he said he used the word garbage. Like, we have collected all the garbage from other countries. How often do you talk to people when the cameras aren't on yet who are honest like that?

A lot. Like, a lot of times, like, before I do interviews, I try to talk to people when the cameras aren't on yet who are honest like that uh a lot like a lot of times like before i do interviews i try to talk to them because i don't want to just like pull up the camera and start speaking to them and they they're also just like kind of mad that they even came to the united states and they are also like a lot of bad people came who are the people running these migrant centers and do you ever really even see them so here in new york city i believe it's like the government that's running them through our other organizations like each migrant shelter is also paying for security for each of these migrants like they have uh at least like four people at the door when you go to one of the shelters like a dude like a

bouncer at a club kind of deal exactly and you show him a wristband to get in. And so, like, let's go to Labo. Like, they're getting, like, such good treatment from the people here inside these shelters. Like, so protected. And, like, just imagine, like, all the security. There's over 200 shelters here in New York City, and they're paying for 24-7 security with like probably up to at least 10 people every minute so like a lot of money and did you hear about the new congestion congestion bill that New York City is passing so like oh wait yes I did but talk about that please so like New York City

obviously because they're spending so much money on the migrants they have to figure out other ways to make money so New york city essentially started up a new startup on i think june 30th and it's going to make them a billion dollars a year they're going to attack they're going to charge everybody to that comes into new york city from one of the bridges surrounding bridges 15 just to come into the city and then if you're like have like a work van you have to pay up like 30 and so instantly instantly New York City is just going to get an extra billion dollars to help take care of the city. And I'm sure a large portion of that's going to go towards migrants because they need more money to support what's going on.

It's crazy, and they've got to figure out a way. Isn't that crazy, $15? Oh, my God, it's nuts. Like it's – they've got to find a way to wind this down. Like it is a fair point to say like eric adams followed up the worst mayor in the history of mayors of anywhere where there's ever been a fucking mayor in bill de blasio so guys got a lot to clean up but you know if it's if it's been long designate designated now a sanctuary city and you're reporting this on the ground all these places

and there's no end in sight they're just they're just chilling there's no and like he wants to work that was what's interesting about what they all want to work but in like mary adams wants to give them work permits but it's the federal government that gives the work permits and why aren't they giving them i don't know it doesn't make sense maybe it's like oh, maybe we've got some other things to do. So you'll talk to any of the migrants, and they're all puttering around all day because they can't do anything. And then if they are making money, they're selling stuff on the street.

They're doing other things. You'll see a lot of guys in the corner, and you know what happens on corners when cash is going around. So, it's like, what's going on? Oh, like drugs. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, no good businessman is ever hanging out in a corner all day.

No, there's not. When's the next time you're headed down to the actual border? I was there, like, a week ago. Where were you? In San Diego. Oh, that was the one where you were looking at that yeah and all the chinese migrants and a lot of people are coming over yeah what's crazy is in one of the earliest videos we played today you were showing me like african migrants and stuff

so you're getting people sometimes who are coming finding a way to mexico from really really poor countries continents hop in continents like china makes sense because you know there's a lot of people who are well off there but when you see people from really small countries with small economies like literally migrants who are finding a way to scrape up enough money i assume to get a plane ride to mexico yeah they're spending all their money to get here and they have to keep paying money and then once they finally make it the united states oh you can't work um it's tough the scariest people though that america should be worried about are the chinese we know we're not like good friends with the chinese with china with their like our competition and essentially like imagine a million so in the united states we have like i think it's like 1.4 uh people in the military. That's how many people are in the military.

But now imagine if 1 million Chinese soldiers had been shipped into America illegally. They could be creating their own systems inside the United States. And then once their president is like, all right, let's switch. We're ready. Imagine that.

That's what scares me the most. And people from uh the middle east like they could be coming over and like when that lady said they said they're going to camp like maybe that's the encampment that they're going to or it's like a legit camp like where they're going yeah i think i'm actually gonna that one it looks like based on the thing that you translated that's what they call the the actual detention center then i also have heard of like uh marijuana camps where they go to like like encampments like where they work what do you mean marijuana camps like where they grow marijuana like the chinese go yeah the chinese people go

there to work so like i've heard like some bus like someone in california i've gotten busted into by by police and stuff but like literally these chinese people because you don't see them in shelters and so they're going somewhere and maybe they're getting like training and if their president's like all right let's do this and boom like china could already have their government here inside the united states and we know they're buying tons of farmland here in the united states as well china yeah it's it's look it's it's scary and like i really feel like remember when they flew that balloon over the united states and like the United States didn't even shoot it down until it got to Montana or Wyoming? Yeah.

Sometimes I wonder, the underground tech race though, if it's just what they know here. It's like they're so far ahead that that's why they're letting some things happen. But it's like an insult to my intelligence watching some of it happen. It's like, okay, all right. You guys know maybe, for example, we're way ahead of them on stuff and we're gonna be all right fine but like

would it kill you to stop them from sending spies in here would it kill you like it doesn't do a lot for national morale when you see that and it also creates a distrust between the people too because like i always say this china's got whatever it is a billion point something people 6.9 percent of them are in the communist party if you want to round up and say another 13 14 percent are like sympathetic to it the that means the majority of the people at least 80 of them don't like the the government like it's not their thing right they're normal people just like you and me trying to make a living out there do their thing but what what what's happening is as happens in every war the governments have these disagreements because governments do evil and shit and then everyone gets dragged in and hatred forms on both sides and that's always a concern to me with every conflict we see but you're not helping

it when you fan the flames like this and i'm glad i'm glad you're down there you know getting some of this content and capturing it for people to see you're doing a great job with with with your channel and and covering things on the ground i'm trying my best out here yeah man so are you releasing one like almost one a week at this point i'm trying once a week Every week I try my best and sometimes things happen and you can't get them up, but every week. All right. So we will put the links to your channel down in the description below for everyone to go check out. And yeah, I'd recommend people look at the content. You've seen some of it today.

It's really cool stuff, but keep doing what you're doing, man. It's really impressive. I appreciate you answering a lot of hard questions today too. Well, thank you. All right, man. Everybody else, you know what it is. Give's really impressive. I appreciate you answering a lot of hard questions today too. Well, thank you. All right, man. Everybody else, you know what it is. Give it a thought. Get back to me.

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