Julian Dorey Podcast - 🫢 [VIDEO] - The Most Shocking Ancient Civilization COVERUPS of All Time | Matt LaCroix • 154

Episode Date: August 14, 2023

- Support the show & get 30% OFF GROUND.NEWS using my link: https://www.ground.news/juliandorey  - Julian Dorey Podcast MERCH: https://legacy.23point5.com/creator/Julian-Dorey-9826?tab=Featured - ...Support Our Show on PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey  (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~Matt LaCroix is an author, researcher, and historian. His work focuses on ancient civilizations, ancient cultures, philosophy, quantum mechanics, and history. ***TIMESTAMPS*** 0:00 - Ancient Eridu & Underground Shuruppak 6:20 - The Overlap with Legend of Noah 12:23 - Ziusudra & Zernaki Tepe 16:30 - Ben Van Kerkwyk’s findings 23:53 - Connecting the Ancient Civilizations dots to Lost City of Atlantis 28:19 - Lake Van & Cavus Tepe 32:49 - How Atlantis is related to Cavus Tepe; King Hayk 37:41 - Atra Hasis 45:09 - Constatine Story 52:52 - Organized Religion; The Ancient Mayans 57:17 - What America is really named after; The Aztec Downfall; The Incan’s Gold 1:07:49 - The Eagle & The Serpent Symbolism; Universal laws 1:11:08 - The last immortal humans; Ancient Stone Megaliths 1:17:24 - The 2 Ancient Civilizations that created Atlantis 1:24:33 - Bloodlines and the relationship between Chem & Thoth 1:28:58 - Ziasudra’s 3 songs; Ancient Atlantis Technology & their destruction 1:34:51 - Who was Zeus? 1:38:50 - Syria and Ain Dara Coverup 1:42:21 - Ebla 1:46:06 - Elongated Skulls; Evidence of Ancient Atlantis 1:52:32 - Matt explains why the new evidence could change history 1:58:04 - The Ancient Egyptian Pyramids; Schoch & Bauval 2:05:39 - Serapeum; Who built Ancient Pyramids of Giza & when 2:09:10 - Ancient Pyramids and UFO / Aliens connection 2:11:45 - The Great Pyramid of Giza & its ratio to earth 2:17:24 - Obelisks and their strange symbolism; Secret Societies & Humanity 2:21:35 - Subliminal messaging; The Dogon again 2:27:41 - Mysterious Symbol in “The Truman Show”; Ancient Civilizations all connected; Sphinx & Pyramids 2:33:41 - Julian’s education of Ancient Civilizations ~ Get $150 Off The Eight Sleep Pod Pro Mattress / Mattress Cover (USING CODE: “JULIANDOREY”): https://eight-sleep.ioym.net/trendifier Julian's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey ~ Music via Artlist.io ~ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 154 - Matt LaCroix Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up guys, if you're on Spotify right now, please follow the show so that you don't miss any future episodes and leave a five-star review. Thank you. didn't seem to care just at the availability of water and other things. It was about energetically and being in a certain location. Now, the 30th parallel is an area region of Earth that covers this line across above the equator, right? When we look at some of the most ancient sites on Earth, the Great Pyramids of Giza, Eridu, and the Sumerian cities, as well as places like Angkor Wat in Southeast Asia, and some others, they're exactly found on the 30th parallel. Exactly. so talks about the creation of civilization talks about that things started different than we're told it would change our entire understanding of all of history erudite is erudite is a piece
Starting point is 00:01:40 that fits into a much bigger puzzle that we're about to uncover that we haven't even done yet but this i'm building off of something way much much more significant than just this this is like the beginning of something greater we're about to go over it's a story that has been deliberately hidden so that we don't know it ever exists and so we think it's a myth and it's not real. Okay. First city. Now remember in the tablets, so it's Sumerian, the Sumerian king list and, and Eridu Genesis and,
Starting point is 00:02:11 uh, myth of Adapa and, um, instructions of a screw pack. I could go on and on. They all talk about how Eridu is part of five cities created, right? This isn't,
Starting point is 00:02:23 there's five, five original cities are created in in the old the ancient world the very beginning where civilization started eridu is the first the last one was called shuru pack shuru we haven't talked about that era no shuru pack is where this entire thing is about to go in terms of the story okay shuru pack in some ways as is as important as eridu now in having said that they discovered shirupak in 1931 so another myth all of a sudden became a reality these places that weren't supposed to be real that were like a myth all of a sudden became a real place on the ground and so they start
Starting point is 00:03:07 excavating shirupak in 19 yep it's s-h-u-r-u-p-p-a-k okay so they start excavating shirupak in 1931 okay all right keep going okay so they start excavating in 1931, and there was... During the excavations, they did some interesting things. Again, they're trying to prove that these things in the tablets, if they could be true, if there's any merit to them
Starting point is 00:03:38 at all. And again, this was sort of like curiosity for them at this point. I think it's because when they actually started to find them, then the control system really came into place. when they originally went to eridu they seemed like they really were like genuinely wanted to know if it was real which is what that 1946 to 48 little yes parade thing was they did there okay there's an an on there you're gonna flick them there you go so um they find shurup back in 1931 and i'm gonna pass this over to you and i want you to see how deep they had to go
Starting point is 00:04:06 and you're going to give me this digital file so i could put this on the screen right now yeah okay they dig down holy shit so what they found that was bizarre to them is that originally they didn't believe in the flood story so they didn't they could they didn't really believe that there was an ancient city that had been destroyed from a flood that's the whole point of this is that we're taking myth and turning into reality and it's leading to an untold story so they excavate down they get 45 feet down 45 feet and they finally find the ruins of shirupak you imagine how much soil that is do they have any concept of how deep it really goes well but I don't't know that, but that's not the point. The point was they then backtracked like they did at Gobekli Tepe,
Starting point is 00:04:50 and they analyzed the 45 feet in between the ruins of Chirupac, deep underground, whatever, and they analyzed this 45 feet above. Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup. Pick any two breakfast items for $5. New four-piece French toast sticks, bacon or sausage wrap, English muffin sandwiches, value iced coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's Taxes Extra. So you're hosting the family barbecue this week,
Starting point is 00:05:17 but everyone knows your brother is the grill guy, and it's highly likely he'll be backseat barbecuing all night. So be it. Impress even the toughest of critics with freshly prepared canadian barbecue favorites from sobies they found no human remains and they found no human evidence at all what the fuck so they're like wait wait so this flood could have been real it must have just been like a little regional thing but and they expected to find other evidence of civilizations that had cohabited and lived there.
Starting point is 00:05:49 They found none. Did they have any concept while they were doing this of approximately how old some of the other things they were? No, because they're still working off the timeline of thinking that it's like 5,000 years old. And they're not doing like carbon dating and shit? No, well, they can't. It's too old for that yeah so they they find yet another city and this time though it's buried by so much sediment that it gives complete evidence to the deluge of being this massive amount of like mud and debris that was like what like laid down in this region which is why they never
Starting point is 00:06:24 rebuilt or lived in any of them again. Now, that's not the same as everywhere else in the world. As we're going to see in some other incredible ruins, other cultures decided to build on top. But for the reasons of how catastrophic this flood was in that region, it was buried
Starting point is 00:06:39 under so much debris that the people that came later didn't even know it existed wow okay so this is what got me and then i started to like sort of blow my mind because i was like how old is shirupak right i found my answer in the epic of Gilgamesh. This is how you have to do this. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, and I love telling this story because it's one of my favorites. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, the part that nobody's ever read, is this part where Gilgamesh goes on this journey and he's trying to seek out immortality. And I want anyone to go read it. Don't take any of my word for it. Go verify everything I'm saying. But in the depth and i want anyone to go read it like it's don't take any of my word for it go go
Starting point is 00:07:25 verify everything i'm saying but in the epic of gilgamesh gilgamesh is supposed to be a tyrant king of the city of iraq which they then end up finding iraq okay but it's from a different time period gilgamesh is not from the same time period as shirupak and we find that out later because what happens is and but gilgamesh is ancient that's the thing he's already an ancient king but he's from that 6 000 year timeline window okay he's from a different time period and he's and we know that because of this in the epic of gilgamesh he goes on this journey to seek immortality and it shows this um the symbolism of like going across you remember that you know they show like that boat master down in a cave?
Starting point is 00:08:07 You know that show scenes in some movies and some depictions where there's like an ancient boat master who's like a skeleton sometimes and he crosses over the lake and picks you up? That's from this. It's from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Like the crane? The boat man. He's the boatman between realms. We're going to get down to that hole again with them creating different realms of reality here. Gilgamesh has to cross into the underworld
Starting point is 00:08:34 and this boatman takes him. Okay? When he gets there, he goes to meet the last king of Sharupak, the figure that became Noah. His name is Untan-Dapishtim, or in the Epic of Gil Shuru Pak, the figure that became Noah. His name is Untan Depishtim, or in the Epic of Gilgamesh, his name is Zayasudra.
Starting point is 00:08:51 These guys often had different names during different time periods in history. But then they get crossed over into different religious texts, so to speak. Yes. So he goes there. That makes sense, actually. He goes there to seek...
Starting point is 00:09:06 I'm going to keep referring to him. It's hard because i want to say no because everybody knows what i'm saying but the story of noah in terms of like the biblical story became like a ridiculous story that's very silly russell crowe did a good job though okay it had nothing about bringing two of every animal or anything like that that's not true damn it that's not none of that's come on you're ruining it for me well and we won't get into that yeah but i just want to say that so gilgamesh goes and he meets that ancient king he meets his untenapishtim zayasudra he meets him which one was that again that's the noah figure that's the last king of shurupak i gotta try to think of the right term to use because i'm throwing them all out there.
Starting point is 00:09:45 For the rest of the show, let's just use the Epic of Gilgamesh name and call him Zayasudra. Zayasudra. I don't want to keep saying all these names to confuse people. It's alright. That's good.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So Zayasudra is supposed to be an ancient, ancient king. I mean more ancient than any of the others that we're talking about. He's supposed to be a king that's from what they call the Old World. The Old World is when these five, and the tablets describe this, is when the first five cities were created here. That's the Old World. That's it. That's all that was there. And then this disaster comes through and like wipes them all out. Then they had to like restart over again and create things in different places.
Starting point is 00:10:23 That's where this is going. But the point is that Gilgamesh meets with Zayasudra, who is the last king of Sharupak before these events occur. And he's no longer in this realm anymore. Okay. He says to him, says, Gilgamesh, you come to me to seek the secrets of immortality. I wish to tell you a story, a story so ancient that it's long before you. In the city of Sharupak, they basically says where I lived. Sharup, he says, I love how he says this. He says, Sharupak was a city so ancient to you that you know nothing of it.
Starting point is 00:11:04 It's like mind-blowing right we're talking about something so old that it's before what we even think of as ancient and he says he said the city was old he said and the gods once were in it and walked in it that's what he says he says the gods walked in it and were in the city like among men again could this be some sort of i know i know i know what you're saying but if you read again you read the tablets they talk about how they ended up leaving and not coming back to our realm and like leaving it to us that's what they say they no longer like came back anymore really and then we just sort of became kind of chaotic but um he says and he talks about how um that
Starting point is 00:11:50 city was far more ancient to him and then he mentions how etana was there now i know this might not mean anything to you but if we're trying to figure out when things happened and how we place things we you learn if we back, that there was a legend of Atana, which is a tablet that talked about how there was an ancient king of Atana who was the first king after these cities had been destroyed in a great catastrophe
Starting point is 00:12:12 and they had to rebuild the new world. Atana was supposed to be the first king of the new world from a city called Kish. But when Gilgamesh goes, Atana's already dead. Atana's already been a ghost. He says he meets the ghost of Atana.
Starting point is 00:12:28 So what I'm trying to say is we now can lay this all out. We know that Shrupak was part of the first cities ever created. Then we know that Atana ruled at another time period when civilization tried to reemerge again. And then we know that Gilgamesh came
Starting point is 00:12:43 far after that. So, see what I'm saying here? Now we're putting the wholege again. And then we know that Gilgamesh came far after that. So, see what I'm saying here? Yes. Now we're like putting the whole thing together. And the tablets are revealing their secrets if we know where to look. Okay? So,
Starting point is 00:12:55 the question is, what happened to Zaya Sudra? And I had gotten to that point and I was stuck. I was stuck for years i didn't know where else to go i was i laid that whole thing out how fast did you get to that point that took me like five years okay but i was excited to read every tablet and then cross-reference every single one with every place and every king mentioned and then try to list them all based on when they lived based on tiny little clues of what they who they met along the way and different things, right?
Starting point is 00:13:26 But I was stuck. I will admit to people listening to this, I was like stuck. I'm like, I don't understand how does that connect to Atlantis? How does that connect to the megaliths of Peru? How does that connect to the pyramids of Egypt? Like, how does any of this connect? And I feel like in our community, we've been stuck there for a long time, not understanding how any of this connect and and i feel like in our community we've been stuck there for a for a long time not not understanding how any of it connects or we never got there
Starting point is 00:13:50 well no we didn't until now are you ready yeah now let's change history my friend let's do it i'm here so this fell into my lap by some very interesting means, I will say. I don't know how it happened. It just did. I became aware of a site called Zernakitepe. And Zernakitepe is in eastern Turkey, not that close to Gobekli Tepe. Quite a ways away. How do you spell it?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Z-E-R-N-A-K-I. Uh-huh. And then Tepe. Yep. So Tepe just means mountain or hill. So these are all just different names for that. Sarnaki, Tepe, Turkey. I'm going to pull up the map. Thank you. We'll put that in the middle. Yeah, yeah. And that's actually awesome.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I want you to click that right there. Picture. That mountain, you see the ancient terraces? That entire mountain is a lost civilization. Underneath it. They've only excavated 1% of that entire area. Excavations of Zernak-i Tepe. When was this found?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Zernak-i Tepe has only been discovered and started to be excavated since 2014. Who found it? I don't know the name of the person, but I think it was Istanbul University out of Turkey. Oh, shit. But they have no idea what it is they're not they're labeling it as the eurasian civilization which in a very similar way to something like the hittites were only a later iteration of another culture that came later and built on top of it okay okay so what this is how basically the whole thing started is that i became very curious of zernakitepi because of one thing in particular if you want to click this yeah i have it open
Starting point is 00:15:36 on this other tab right here i'll put this or if you want to zoom into the map so you can just people just see where we are start with the picture you have because i pulled the map up i probably have already had that on the screen. So there's a lake in eastern Turkey called Lake Van. And it's an absolutely incredible lake. It's one of the most high elevation lakes in the world. In fact, it's very similar to Lake Titicaca, which, you know, if people are familiar with the incredible Tiwanaku civilization at the southern flanks of Lake Titicaca, it's another one of these lost civilizations that's got advanced technology that we don't
Starting point is 00:16:07 understand where they came from or who they are. Lake Titicaca is in which country? Lake Titicaca spans the border of Bolivia and Peru, and it's the highest navigable lake in the world. Okay? Now, in Eastern Turkey is one of the other largest high elevation lakes in the world called Lake Van. No small lake. in eastern turkey is one of the other largest um high elevation lakes in the world called lake von no small lake it is 1500 feet deep on lake a lake okay christ what's down it's like an entrance in
Starting point is 00:16:36 the underworld right lake titicaca is the same thing lake titicaca is over a thousand feet deep there seems to be an interest in these ancient, ancient lakes. That's all I can say. I didn't even know lakes could get that deep. With volcanoes around them. Now, okay. So I want you to click. Can you go down? I want to click an image on this.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Scroll down. Keep going. Right there. This one. Right there. Click that. All right, hold on. I'm going to open this in a new tab.
Starting point is 00:17:01 The number of tabs I have is... If I... One of the things that I've been studying for about six years straight, and I worked with some of the greatest in the field, I'd say the greatest megalithic expert in terms of studying the architecture of megaliths would be Brian Forrester and then Ben from Uncharted X
Starting point is 00:17:18 that we talked about before. Yeah, that's Danny's boy. By the way, for people out there, if you haven't seen the Concrete podcast with Ben Van Kerwick, which was the first one. out there if you haven't seen the concrete podcast with ben van kerwick which was yes thank you ben van kerwick fucking incredible so ben um ben and brian and me we're sort of like we we focus on studying the architecture of these incredible megaliths left behind from what we team what we you know we team and others like graham hancock do the lost civilizations of earth okay now when you look at the type of
Starting point is 00:17:46 architecture and sophistication of blocks in parts of Egypt like the valley temple um the king's chamber in the great pyramid of Giza or in parts of like the core of concha around Cusco Cusco Peru and Machu Picchu we find evidence of this building technique that is incredibly advanced using very, very hard rocks in a way where we have no idea how they did it. Ben talks about this a lot in Egypt, how we find saw marks and drill holes in places like Abu Seir and other areas where the tools that they created, not only do we not have never found a single tool but we have no idea how they did it because we know that something like bronze age tools from the time period we're told would be too soft to manipulate any of these stones or the level of precision that they are okay just i want to lay that foundation down so once you know what to look for you essentially see it all around the world
Starting point is 00:18:42 not everywhere but you'll see it in a lot of different ancient parts of the world, like Peru, Bolivia. You see it in some parts of Mexico, like Mitla. You'll see it around the Valley Temple and the Great Pyramids of Giza. You see it throughout some parts of Turkey that we haven't talked about, like San Simeon. And you see it in megaliths in parts of Greece. Anyway, anyway there are Megalus in these aspects of these civilizations that are all around the world and I Became very fixated on focusing on what they look like and looking for the telltale evidence of them. Okay? That basically became one of the only things we have left is the whole point I'm trying to make it's one of the only things we have left to prove
Starting point is 00:19:25 that those sophisticated civilizations were there because when we're talking about some of the stonework that they did some of the tight fits we're gonna we're gonna see in turkey as well as egypt places like in japan places like in peru i don't believe that we could create what they did today. I really don't think we could. On July 17th, 2014, Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 took off from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. Less than three hours later, the flight had disappeared. Soon thereafter, a debris field was spotted in eastern Ukraine. All 298 people on board were dead. Now, in some ways, you might think this crash was just
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Starting point is 00:22:00 told that was built with slave labor. But even if that was true, they would have had to lay like 100 to 150 a day. I'm really afraid to go into this because I don't want to get you off track. I know. I know. I know. I know. Yeah, totally. Let's bring it back to that again.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I want to ask you a lot about this. So can we come back to pyramids so we don't lose the other one? Absolutely. Okay. The point is there that these archetypes and architects were so far beyond us that they were doing things that we don't understand today connecting to the cosmos using using tools and potential materials like just as an example just to throw out there but um the the granite blocks that are in the great the king's chamber some of them are over over 20 to 30 tons above
Starting point is 00:22:42 the king's chamber that's made with a type of rose granite. And Ben's talked about this. Type of rose granite that only comes from 500 miles away. 500 miles away. That granite we know came from a certain quarry in Aswan. Okay? Which means that they were very specific with the type of stone that they wanted to use for these. It had nothing to do with just grabbing whatever was lying around.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So there's energetic properties and so they could withstand time various reasons they did this now here's what's was not another bizarre thing to prove turkey was connected to egypt in karnak there's a famous travertine block it's a type of material called travertine it's extremely hard beautiful though it's this huge block of travertine that's sitting there travertine is not found in egypt not found in africa was it ever no do how do we know that then because the nearest deposits of travertine is a very rare type of rock yeah i don't know shit about the nearest deposits of travertine are in turkey but could that mean no because there's always remnants of deposits left you can't just exhaust
Starting point is 00:23:47 an entire deposit it just means it's not economical to mine anymore i'm actually a miner someone that likes to prospect and create gold and so it's like a there would be evidence of those elements existing somewhere and there's and they're never been documented there meaning that they carried a multi-ton block or moved i, I should say. I shouldn't say carried. I should say moved. A multi-ton block over 1,000 miles. So you want to say 500 for Aswan in Egypt. How about 1,000 for Karnak?
Starting point is 00:24:20 So the ancient world, they didn't do anything like we think they would do. They were on a completely different level. What you're saying is they had capabilities that we can't exactly so let's go find where that story goes and how it connects to atlantis and the ancient athenians okay so in the image you have of zernakitepi that you had up a second ago the the type of megalithic blocks they're uncovering there shouldn't be there. They should not be there. That type of sophistication is something we only see in like Egypt and in Peru. It's very, very interesting because it seems to come out of nowhere in a region that has nothing around it relative to that. And I'll tell you why in a second.
Starting point is 00:25:05 There's a whole explanation for how this emerged out of nowhere in this region so zernakitepe was the first thing that triggered me to something going on i've been studying zernakitepe for six to eight months now and but it was the only this is relatively new oh yeah this is all super super new but the foundation had been laid sure for this to all happen right? So I become aware of Sir Naki Tepe, and I was like, what is this? Because they found an ancient king list at Sir Naki Tepe that was written in Kenea form and had connections all the way back to Sumer. And the whole thing was getting kind of bizarre because that's quite a ways from that region up there. It's in far eastern Turkey near Mount Ararat. I want people to remember Mount Ararat.
Starting point is 00:25:49 So I'm scoping out Zernakitepe, putting a lot of stuff together. I was going to do like a whole workshop on it. Until I realized it was only one tiny little part of something much greater. And that came when I discovered two other major sites that are just being uncovered now and I mean just being uncovered one of Them called Kefkalesi was just found in 2017 Okay, these are as far as excavation go this is brand fucking now why I'm saying that That's why this is so exciting But you know what's good and maybe this is so exciting. But you know what's good? And maybe this is totally, totally like,
Starting point is 00:26:26 you know, way too innocent on my end because I'm not in this world. But they're being found. What was the first one you said? University of Istanbul founded and whatever. So there's places that aren't necessarily like Oxford or something like that, that you think,
Starting point is 00:26:42 ooh, maybe it's Masters of the Universe. And people are looking and people are finding and they're being announced they're not being covered up at this point announced is interesting because i don't really know anyone that knows about these now how did you find out about it again just randomly like i was looking define yeah define i would say that i was i think one day i was looking at megalis and some picture of zernaki tepe of the blocks there popped up and i immediately identified it as being what is that and then i then a long story short stumbled upon the fact that it was a new site that had just been uncovered have you talked to anyone who's been on the site ben hasn't been there yet but he knows about it i talked to
Starting point is 00:27:22 him last time i spoke with him and has he talked to someone who's been on this no his answer was that there's a lot of incredible sites that are being uncovered in turkey right now well that narrows it down okay okay so continue yeah so i start really looking into everything i can answer nakitepi um the level of sophistication there is just it shouldn't be there, is what I'm saying. And the fact that there's ancient king lists that mimic Sumer got my attention. And so, but I kind of sat there with it. I didn't know what to do with it. I wanted to just talk about the Megaliths and talk about how it's a basic mountain over the lake.
Starting point is 00:28:01 It's very cool, actually. Do you want to go to the map really quick? Sure. The actual map map. You tell me, s i shall do the google map no you well yeah you're just on it but you can do it again well let me open up a new one because like there's some of these images i'm going to forget though because it resets like the number of tabs i have for yeah i get it right now are insane again can you and for the purposes of this let's just leave um the lake so lake vaughn i just type in um just type in lake vaughn lake how do you spell van oh that's easy lake vaughn turkey yeah there it is
Starting point is 00:28:32 okay so it's not a turkish ass name all right so put on um put on that for a minute i like no terrain like that hold your mouse your mouse over. Oh, I see. Oh, there's choices. Yeah. Wait, why? You hold it over and then you click it. Terrain? Terrain.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Okay. All right. So Mount Ararat is right there. Mount Ararat is less than 100 miles away. And that's an important point I want to bring up. Because that's the key between this. Now, so here's Lake Vaughan. In Lake Vaughan um zernacki
Starting point is 00:29:06 tepe is located at the northern end of the lake and i had initially not known anything else was there uh nor did really anybody else i think to be honest it wasn't until um i started studying the lake i just i could not get past Something, this is what I stay up at night with, by the way, people want to know what keeps me up and why I can't sleep. It was Lake Vaughn. And so I'm just sitting there kept up at night. I'm like, how does this one isolated site have this kind of sophistication and be connected to Sumer and have nothing else? It didn't make sense to me. So I went on old maps and google terrain and i just literally searched the entire lake i went around zoomed in and went to every part of the lake looking at
Starting point is 00:29:54 images and then two places popped up that turns out related that they don't know are related and that's what got so exciting about this is that the first place I want to mention and I'm going to save the last one for last the first one that is just absolutely incredible is called Cavus Tepe C-A-V-U-S ironically there were many people online
Starting point is 00:30:17 that shared images you'll find this funny that shared images of Cavus Tepe recently in the last month or two, that didn't know they were Cavastepi and thought they were Peru. And they were using it as an example to say, look, this is the best sophistication of any mega... It won't take long to tell you Neutral's ingredients.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Vodka, soda, natural flavors. So, what should we talk about? No sugar added? Neutral. Refreshingly simple. This is from Peru. Not knowing it wasn't Peru. It was Cavastepe, Turkey, and part of this unknown civilization they didn't know. Refreshingly simple. brought the whole thing home. But what you have at Cavistepi is, and that's the image I had, I had handed to you too. Yeah. Is that Cavistepi. Well, this was, this was Sharupa. Yeah. Do you have yours really quick? It's on the, they're double-sided here. This one over here. Yeah. Hand me back that for a second. Okay. This is, this says excavations of Sharupa. Hold on to that
Starting point is 00:31:40 one in your hand. That's it right there. Okay. This is the one from earlier. That's it right there. I will put this in the corner of the screen and're gonna send me the digital file now and i want to talk about this while you're looking at it because i think it'd be good do you see how there's stones that look like the dark stones in the top left of that of that structure right here yes these yeah that's the eurasian civilization now notice they didn't build out of the same stone well they look yeah they look different than because the other one's limestone limestone is one of the softest stones in the world it's easy been easily manipulated the stone below it is basalt and basalt is if if not the hardest one of the hardest on earth so it's above it and below it right here in this and i'm going to tell
Starting point is 00:32:21 you why that is in a second which is very unusual we actually don't have any other sites in the world where we have young stuff underneath and i'll tell you why in a second so those blocks are and i am telling you is that someone in brian would echo this and i'm sure ben would but that's among the finest if not the finest stone masonry in the world right there at cavus tepe it looks almost identical to the valley temple in egypt and the way that the stones are fitted and it also looks pretty similar to some parts of peru um with the type of the type of stone fitting although i will say and we're going to get into this in a second the nature of the the building in peru is a little bit more organic and it actually looks more similar to to zernaki tepe whereas the building in Kavis Tepe looks like Egypt,
Starting point is 00:33:06 which when you find out, you'll find there are two different people and they went different directions in the world. But the point I'm going to make and we're going to get to in a second is that this was the starting point of an entire new civilization that became the most advanced civilization
Starting point is 00:33:20 in our planet's history. Starting here. And I call it the long ago did you come to that conclusion about a month and a half ago and what or less side of tying these together I've been trying to get this see before someone else does outside of and now we got it on the record outside of tying some of the rock to like peru and stuff like that oh yeah we got a lot more that's only that's only that's scrapping scratching the surface i have other questions here i want you to continue i totally understand and what we're
Starting point is 00:33:55 going to do is we're going to provide so much evidence by the time i'm done you are going to have a hard time refuting this and i want you to try. Try me. Okay. So the first thing that was strange to me was that we saw the same architecture here as we see in Egypt. And not only that, but there was a Kings list found at Cavistepi that mentioned that it was ruled by a kingdom, King Haig. And that, and you can, if you go look up King Haig on Wikipedia, you can find it right now. H-A-K-E? H-A-Y-K. Oh, fuck that up. I'm American. We don't know how to spell all right i'll bring it over here
Starting point is 00:34:32 there he is there he is now the robin hood not really robin but scroll down right there stay on that wait where's this king from he's's the king of Cavistepi. See, I don't picture the kings of this part of the world looking like... Okay, alright, go ahead. He's like, that's how he's depicted. Yeah, he looks like... Okay. So, just on Wikipedia, you don't even have to have me say it, but scroll back to that genealogy chart. Go back down.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Right there. It said... I was like... I almost had a little penny mini heart attack i almost had a little mini heart attack oh shit is this what i think it is yeah go the bloodline he is a direct descendant of japeth who is literally a son of zayasudra noah yes i was like oh my god now we gotta pause there for a second because got to fill in the story because people have no idea why that's so significant. In the Atrahasis, again, I'm not talking anything biblical. In the Atrahasis, remember, Zayasudra, Untapishtim, is the son of the last king of Shurupec.
Starting point is 00:35:43 He's a great bloodline uh ruler king yeah in the story in the atrahasis as well as the epic of gilgamesh there's a great destruction event that occurs on earth that the gods supposedly created they wanted to wipe out everyone here seriously take two every time get on a fucking boat well no no yes i'm kidding so what happened was just how they changed it zaya sudra is this great king that ends up becoming secretly warned that's the thing is that the anuna supposedly made a pact in the tablets that they're not supposed to tell anyone that this event's coming they literally wanted to wipe out humanity i'm not joking
Starting point is 00:36:32 it says that so they created a vent to like destroy us quick question how reliable is this genealogy i didn't think it was reliable because i wasn't a bib i'm not a biblical i'm not a religious person i'm not i'm not i don't follow that but i ended up realizing that there were some aspects of it that i needed to pay attention to. So if he's one, two, three, he's fourth generation from Noah, Zai, Sudra. Yes. Hypothetically, hold on. Yeah, yeah. Now we know the two of every kind. So it means he's even ancient for his time.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Right. But we know the two of every kind thing. That story got fucked up. like noah zaiasudra were due to forces of happening on the planet god like whatever were one of the few humans alive at that point this person hake is only the fourth generation which means we have a very depopulated planet at the time of his yes quote-unquote reign but i think they were i think they were inter i think they were having sex with people that survived too. So they're massively reproducing. There was definitely other groups of people but they weren't on that level.
Starting point is 00:37:31 They weren't like him. They were just like... They were groups of people that had survived the catastrophe and probably didn't even remember their heritage and were like living in isolated places. And they had come out and they described the world as being um in chaos and they had to bring order to the world after that event that's why enki the world order is
Starting point is 00:37:52 called that they created domains so they could bring the bring the world back continue sir so in the outro haste's story and this again it's epic it's it's echoed by the epic of gilgamesh and you it's important because you can't just take a story from one place as if if it's echoed by thousands of years later on another culture and it's the same story then you gotta start paying attention to it skeptic society over here what if it is just a you know first source had a bad whisper down the lane and the next source is just follow that whisper and follow it somewhat closely except that we have about four different sets of tablets there's even one called the legend of its tubar itsubara i'm sure no one's ever even heard of that's the same thing again okay and so
Starting point is 00:38:32 george george smith realized that in his books and he realized that all these stories of the flood were the same event told by different cultures and george smith is 1800s guy. He's the guy that cracked the code of Sumerians. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So in the Atrahasis, Enki, again, the patron Sumerian god of Eridu, is supposed to have this pact. They're not supposed to warn any humans. So he does it cleverly. Again, they literally had a pact. Like, we, the great Anuna, had an agreement. This is what it says.
Starting point is 00:39:04 We, the great Anuma, had an agreement. This is what it says. We, the great Anuma, had a plan and you broke that plan. A man survived, blah, blah. That's what it says. Enki says he did it because Zaius Sudra was his bloodline son. Because Enki had slept with women. And their bloodlines were like, they had gifts and powers. Half holy. Yeah, so they were trying, they had gifts and powers. Half holy. Yeah, so they were trying to wipe them out and clean the slate.
Starting point is 00:39:28 That's essentially what it was. Oh, they're trying to wipe out that blood. They're trying to wipe out, they call them abominations. Because they were like half god. Half gods. But they called them abominations? Later on they did. They ended up being hunted down.
Starting point is 00:39:42 But they're supposedly more powerful. We're going off on a whole thing, but we can go down and talk about the Sons of Anak another day. If you want to pull us back, pull us back. I will for a second. I just want to say there ended up being a later time period where they were hunted down. And then the last of that group
Starting point is 00:40:00 was known as the Sons of Anak. And they were in the area... It relates to the story of Moses. It's not the story we know if you read deuteronomy in a book of numbers it's like i wish people would read their own books it's like insane to me it comes right from there it talks about how moses was commanded to destroy the bloodlines of the giants of sons of a knock and that he conquered 60 walled cities 60 walled cities i'm not joking is that like like like castles oh to to kill it says and then they had to he was ordered to kill every woman child and person in these places to wipe out their bloodlines that's wonderful it's insane it's in guys if you're religious please read your
Starting point is 00:40:40 own books book of number deuteronomy and book of numbers guys um anyway yeah they are look the the bible is a vicious book yes all the new testament and okay so in the outdoor hasis i don't want to lose track too far yes enki secretly warns zayasudra because he says that it was directly it was his bloodline that's why that it was like his son almost like one of his ancestral sons okay he instructs him to use what's called bitumen which is so bizarre because we use bitumen in all kinds of construction operations and building today but they knew about they knew about bitumen so far back that it brings up questions like how could they possibly know about bitumen do you know what bitumen is nope it's a combination of different things that create like a type of adhesive that is the toughest thing you can in the world it's what they use what does it use yeah it uses
Starting point is 00:41:34 basically they use it to blacken out and seal things so that nothing can get in it's like it's almost like a tar so he commands him he has to build something to survive what's coming. That really is true. He tells him he must build with cedar planks because cedar planks are the only thing that'll survive this type of event. And it's just funny because I'm a
Starting point is 00:41:57 farmer, believe it or not. I grow vegetables. You're a farmer? I grow vegetables. I love growing crops. Vegetables are different. You do a lot of shit, man. And I had to build raised beds for gardening. And in building raised beds, you find that if you use the wrong type of wood, it rots like right away and it doesn't do anything. And so what you find is by far the most high quality thing that exists for wood is cedar. It's like a super wood.
Starting point is 00:42:21 It never rots. And so they had all these, the cedar growing there he commanded him he's like the only way you will survive this event is if you do exactly what i tell you this is what's so wild about it this can't be just nothing it's a real being talking to him he says build it exactly these dimensions seal it with bitumen like like uh like the darkness or something like basically the absolute he says no light can get in he's anticipating an event that's so crazy that it's like everywhere it's above it's below they have to like isolate themselves in something that's what he's talking about okay i'm tying this to something you said go ahead okay so he tells him very
Starting point is 00:43:02 detailed descriptions on how he has to build something to survive a coming event and then he has to bring his entire family and then just his just his local animals so that's where they they manipulated the whole thing into like a stupid story later remind me the approximation of how many years back we are with this that's the hardest thing we know it's not right before the younger dryas and that's the hardest thing. We know it's not right before the Younger Dryas. And that's the hardest thing I've come to realize is that... So it could be way back. This is like 50,000 years ago.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Okay. Yeah. Okay, but... Or maybe older, like maybe 100,000 years ago. I know I'm going to lose people. It could even be older than that. I know that's insane, but... You know what theme I was tying it to my head?
Starting point is 00:43:44 Because I figured it was unrelated. I figured this was on a way different timeline but when you were talking about like i it's getting all mixed up right now but i think it was go beckley tepe yeah where they had the stone that could close in yeah above like they were going into a bunker yes this is a very similar thing it is it is because they later had to do that to survive. Because not every event was the same. Some events were different than others. It had to do with the interaction of the earth with different things. But this event in particular was related to more of a catastrophic flood.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And it's always called that, the Great Deluge. Now, I don't believe it was based on rain entirely. I think it was based on like a tsunami because look at eridu's got seashells on top of it persian gulf is right there it makes more sense that we had tectonic movements and enormous amounts of water now where are we in that region if you go look at a map we have the the black sea right above it and we have the persian gulf right below it and then the mediterranean on the other. If you were to get a massive influx of water, all three of those water bodies would flood. So I just type in, can I do Black Sea? Is that good enough for you?
Starting point is 00:44:52 And then just zoom out. So here we are. Here's Iraq, and here's... Here's Iraq right there. I can't talk and point at the same time, I guess. Yeah, no, it's good. And then here's Eastern Turkey. Now notice it's surrounded by massive inland lakes and in different things like that i think that's why that region talks
Starting point is 00:45:11 about the flood so much because i think what we saw is that lakes are the result of the flood combination of a lot of different things but we're talking about what it states is that there was so much water that that's why there was 45 feet of sediment on Chirupac. Because if you go across an arid land with a massive event like this, that arid land
Starting point is 00:45:36 is not going to have a lot of vegetation and it's going to pull all its material with it. It's called sedimentation. Okay? And so that's what we're talking about here is that Enki tells him how he has to build
Starting point is 00:45:50 this craft that is the only way that they're going to survive. And he tells him he has to survive. He tells him that it's critical for humanity. Yeah, but he's also giving him the keys ahead of time as to how to... But if it wasn't up to him and Lil, his half-brother, the eagle, he's the serpent, he wanted all of humanity wiped out. Have you...
Starting point is 00:46:16 Now I'm getting mixed up in my head as to what we talked about off-camera versus on-camera. So just because we're on camera, I want to make sure. Have you gone through the eagle-serpent thing today on camera? No, not with you. Not on camera. Yes. Just because we're on camera, I want to make sure. Have you gone through the Eagle Serpent thing today on camera? No, not with you. Not on camera? No. All right. So can you do that now if you're going to say that?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Okay. We won't go too, too far because we've got to get back to this. We just, we really just scratched the surface. And what part did we leave off to? The end of the Ultra Haces. End of the Ultra Haces. Okay. Go ahead on the Eagle Serpent.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I do love how, talk about about rabbit holes we're going down um one of the things that i did get known for in my last book the stage of time not the one that i'm releasing with billy carson epic of humanity but right before i and i did include some of that in there but my previous book called the stage of time um one of the core concepts in there I talk about a lot is that I realized that there seemed to be a competition with civilizations all throughout history with certain symbolism. And the symbolism seemed to be shared that it goes all the way back to these Anuna gods because they seem to represent themselves with very specific symbols. Now, I thought it was fascinating because remember i showed you that mural where they're passing the knowledge of this there's other murals that depict them but with an eagle head well there was an eagle on the top no yeah yeah but this is different with an eagle head like their mentality yes and their what they were passing wasn't the same thing
Starting point is 00:47:42 i've come to the conclusion that what they were passing, because they were depicting that, they never do anything by accident. They were depicting the knowledge of war and about how to create a different kind of civilization. There was, because what we find out is that Enlil had a son named Nunerta. Nunerta is the same person who became Nimrod in the Bible and is also the same individual that became the Byzantine eagle of the Roman Empire. There are these powerful influences we seem to be able to trace around the world of these specific mentalities, and it can't be a random coincidence, because there end up being this almost war against the two. And we know that, especially with the Americas. Now, in the americas
Starting point is 00:48:25 i don't i want everybody to wrap their head around to think that there was a much older version of those civilizations there than we then were taught like for instance the aztec they were practicing blood sacrifice and the maya that were doing all that that's not part of the group i'm talking about that was again another later a later iteration of those regions that had no one guiding them and sort of went on like a chaotic place of of um um they were it shows evidence shows that they were in extreme drought for like 500 years and they were getting to such extreme uh aspects that they were um sacrificing people because they didn't know what to do they still had the knowledge that the gods played a role in their in in the world and them and they but they didn't understand so they started like freaking out because they were
Starting point is 00:49:13 all dying out and so they started sacrificing like a thousand people a week i'm not even kidding it was horrible they didn't know what to do but but what historians don't tell you is that they're not i'm not saying this was justified at all but they were in such an extreme drought that their maize crops corn were all failing and they had nothing to eat so they were trying anyway that's a long rant but i have to always say that because whenever i talk about the cultures of the americas everybody's always like well how can they be so so good if they're doing all that and that's what i need to like lay down is that the original maya the original olmec the original pre-aztec the toltec the ones who created teotihuacan tanaktalon created chichen itza those are part of an ancient ancient story that
Starting point is 00:49:56 that directly relates back to sumer and the idea is that there were these great sages and it gets back to the story of the dogon there were these great sages africa and mali yeah we talked about that are described as traveling like around the world and creating civilizations but those original sages were part of that enki side with the knowledge of creating temples and higher consciousness but the other side with enlil and the nerita they they didn't find any any value in that they didn't want that to be part of any of our structure of us and it gets and that's where the that's where this competition began is how do you rule humanity do you rule humanity through an iron fist and being a war empire and disciplined or do you rule humanity through like ancient temples and being creative and like showing
Starting point is 00:50:44 all those aspects and that was what this great division became because left and right side of the brain right and that's that's what it is the eagle represents the left side of the brain mentality and the serpent and dragon represent the right and the right brain has always been associated with the divine feminine in creation. Always. So, and that's what's interesting, though, because the serpent, like, I'm very good friends with Paul Rosalie. Love him. Paul, you do amazing work. I don't fuck with snakes, though. Right?
Starting point is 00:51:15 Like, that guy fucking loves snakes and everything. It's not real snakes, though. I understand. But, like, you know where my head goes. I think serpent, I think literally, you know, devilish shit. Right? Yeah. What you seem to be saying is that it's the other way around they ended up inverting
Starting point is 00:51:29 almost every symbol after the around the holy roman empire period that's where i traced it is that people don't know is that the roman empire used to be a non-monotheistic civilization meaning that they didn't believe in a single god that's called monotheistic religion romans used to be a non-monotheistic civilization meaning that they didn't believe in a single god that's called monotheistic religion romans used to believe in the planets being gods and they used to they used to worship them okay and they believed in like the old more of the old ways blah blah but the point was that when the roman empire was collapsing, there was a man named Constantine. And Constantine ended up having this brilliant idea where they would restructure the Roman Empire in where? Istanbul, Turkey.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Son of a bitch. That's where it started was Istanbul with Constantine. That's why it was called Constantinople. Constantinople, yeah. Constantinople, thank you. And so Constantine was brilliant. He's like, okay, so how do we control everything? And they were like, well, if we rewrite history,
Starting point is 00:52:38 we can write the future too, because who controls the past controls the future. And then they also realized, well, we can't really have people reaching higher states of consciousness or spirituality and through these teachings so let's also take over religion and Then we can have the trifecta of what was supposed to be is in that mural member the priest and the king That's exactly what they did. They created that in a completely different way And what they did was they then turned into a monotheistic
Starting point is 00:53:04 Religion and instead then they started like persecuting anyone that wasn't a christian member yes and this is what happens with them then the christian wars took off but then what they did was interesting is then they burned the library of alexandria and then what they did is they went around the world and systematically destroyed all the ancient groups that were pre-Christian, such as the Gnostics. And that's the entire reason why the Dogon ended up in Mali. Because Egypt was under religious persecution from not only the Romans but other groups. It was like a – it was like a –
Starting point is 00:53:37 So they went – okay. There was a war over the ancient ways versus the new ways of thinking. And so the Roman Empire, the Crusades by the Christian Empire was thinking and so the roman empire the christ the crusades by the christian empire was not about just converting people to christianity but it was about literally destroying any echoes of the past and so to this day we don't know how many ancient things were really destroyed it's see this is where i always say this you know and i don't attack organized religion i think most of the people who have organized religion as a big part of their life use it for all the right reasons and it's a beautiful thing and it's a personal thing and so i think it gets aggressive to do that but for whatever reason
Starting point is 00:54:13 you know and it was heavier in the older times i think today it's lighter for the most part because of civilization moving forward more acceptable and everything but you know there's that back 10 of people who just use religion for power. Yeah. And they ruin it for everyone else. And it just – I mean every time you learn about it in history, you just get frustrated because it just repeats itself over and over again. Yes. But anyway, so thank you for the context.
Starting point is 00:54:39 But I'm actually really glad you brought that up because without that religious context, now it makes more sense to people maybe why Eridu is treated the way it is. And I do just want to say as a note for the people listening right now, I can tell looking at the clock we're in the second podcast. So I want to say something I said in the first podcast just for context. But there are times today, again, where I'm stopping you on some things to define stuff. And there are people out there who are experts on this stuff, listen a lot of it who are going to be like god damn it i already know this but for the people who aren't listening i'm doing that so my apologies if i'm cutting mad off sometimes to make sure we go through some things but you and i did talk about that ahead of time yeah and so you were at and i made a notice you were at where where the end of the
Starting point is 00:55:22 hold on before we do that i just want to summarize up what we were just saying In the knowledge of what I just said, what we find is that there were civilizations that were emerging in the Americas that just sort of came out of nowhere. Graham Hancock talks about this all the time with the Olmec how the Olmec are this incredibly mysterious
Starting point is 00:55:40 group that seems to have African origins and yet we're told that the only migratory patterns of ancient people came from through the Bering Strait. So there's already the Olmec because they were practicing rubber, rubber extraction, which came from Africa and they looked at very African like features as well as other things.
Starting point is 00:55:59 It's, it's where we're seeing is an entire narrative and story that's different than we've been told. And what that is, is that, and i want to just lay this out there the maya state that their great sage or teacher that taught them everything who created their civilization his name was called kukulkan okay now kukulkan was shown as what's called a feathered dragon it's not really that it was it's a symbol but remember getting back to Enki. Enki's symbol was the dragon and the serpent. It was his symbol.
Starting point is 00:56:30 It goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden where the serpent tempted Eve. That's him. That's just written from that perspective because Enki gave, he's Prometheus. He gave fire to humans. He's the reason why all the forbidden things that we became was him
Starting point is 00:56:45 and he became demonized of the greatest degree he became this satan demon figure okay because remember i told you they assumed roles in different parts of reality yes he ended up going in the underworld a long time alongside his negative counterpart known as nurgal now people don't know this now remember law of correspondence they were obsessed with it remember what the law of correspondence is no as above so below and what that means is not just the stars and earth as a plane but realms of reality meaning that there are like above dimensions and like lower dimensions and third dimension our reality is like sandwiched in between.
Starting point is 00:57:25 We're almost like in between different realms of reality. And so he's described as going to rule in the underworld alongside Nurgal, a very evil, wicked war God to be a positive counterpart. And then, and then, and the other, and the above is a negative Enlil,
Starting point is 00:57:43 who's a war God and his positive positive counterpart, known as Thoth. Or there's various names, but it's like, it's exactly parallel. A negative and a positive and a positive and a negative. That's what they did. But what that also did was that he became, his entire, anything related to him, anything related to the serpent or the dragon became so demonized that it was like the ultimate sin and that was why eridu became completely abandoned it's his patron city but it's not the only reason there's others as well that was his
Starting point is 00:58:20 patron city so you're just saying it all got reversed flipped on its head yeah now let's get back to the americas okay in the americas the maya created all these civilizations and they say that they're their serpent feather god right and if feathers just mean ascension to a higher form and where were the maya relative to modern day geography where were they located great question you mean historically like what time frame well. The time frame and also what countries that we now know. So what we find is the Maya really were like the domain of the Yucatan of Mexico. And the Olmec were more like the Veracruz aspect of Mexico, sort of southwest towards... Got it.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yeah. Now, so Kukulkan is supposedly this great leader sage that taught them how to build temples to the stars and then taught them everything left. And then you find that the Aztec god Quetzalcoatl is the exact same thing. It's the same feathered serpent god supposedly teaching them everything and then leaving. Then you find out Viracocha to the Inca, it was a feathered serpent god who taught them everything and then left. It's like at some point you find out they're all the same person. So Kukulkan, Quetzalcoatl, and Viracocha, they're all the same. And you find out that they were just the same influences all around the world. Now, this is what I'm, the point I'm trying to make with this is,
Starting point is 00:59:39 it was all influenced by the same person, a feathered serpent god, teaching them about higher knowledge of consciousness and everything. Then they end up changing the name of it to reference that. So we were told that America, Americas, North and South America, is named after the Italian explorer. Explorer, but it's not. It's named after Amaruka, which is the original name that the indigenous people call the region how do you know that because they have it they stay they talk about it all the time it's like well it's well known in South America especially Peru and
Starting point is 01:00:14 Bolivia but is it just ancient is it like you know ancient rumor people just like to say that or is there actually evidence to support there are depictions of Vera Kosha from ancient times and there that have the alternate names or is there actually evidence to support that? There are depictions of Viracocha from ancient times that have the alternate name in the region of Amaruka. And it's very well known for those who
Starting point is 01:00:36 study down in that region that Amaruka became America. And what it means it means the land of the feathered serpents. That's what it means. And Kukulkan, Quetzalcoatl, and Viracocha is because they were all, that was their symbol. They weren't really dragons, but it was their symbol. And then they moved on. Now, this is where I just want to quickly segue back to this. So, think about them as the
Starting point is 01:01:00 serpent dragon civilizations, okay? Now, imagine, now think about columbus cortez and pizarro all conquered systematically north to south in the americas from the spanish empire that had the eagle on its crest just so you know who sent columbus to um what's the united states now like the bahamas area who by the way and i don't want to go on a segue in columbus but oh my god if people knew the truth about columbus horrible what he actually did was take slavery in portugal and the dominican republic to mine gold and they went back and forth for gold there was nothing about spices or a trade the whole thing was a lie i know people like get on everything is like woke rewriting of history but the fact that we still have a fucking day after that guy is a disgrace
Starting point is 01:01:43 yeah he basically just took slaves and went back and forth and mined gold. This is if you want to summarize He was a terrible human being so he he conquers that area And then what happens is Cortez comes right after him and conquers all of Mexico and the Aztec And the reason he was able to do that they thought he was a god They thought he was returning Quetzalcoatl on the exact anniversary that the ancient people had believed, which means that the Catholic Church knew about that. What? It means that the Catholic Church, who was the one who sent him, the Spanish Catholic Church— Knew about what the Aztecs over there even were and were thinking.
Starting point is 01:02:16 That's the only reason they sent him, because they knew that— What did they do, have a spy undercover there? If he went there, the Aztec had 200,000 warriors. He went over with 110 men. Yes, but he also... They're saying what happened. I'll tell you the story. He arrived on the shores of Veracruz, Mexico.
Starting point is 01:02:36 He comes in with horses and all this armor. And he actually told them that he was Quetzalcoatl. And they were like... how do we know that because they said to him are you quetzalcoatl he just said yes that's not that hard though okay but you could just be like yeah sure call me that but he came at the exact time that quetzalcoatl was supposed to return as a prophecy from thousands of years ago now i understand that that would be a fucking unbelievable coincidence the year he's supposed to return but how they how would they have known that where he came from
Starting point is 01:03:10 because they'd already been there do we have any evidence but i my theory is that the the church and the power of those empires we don't really i think they know they knew more than we know they knew about these old ancient gods. They knew about some of this. And it was only kept, though, in the highest priesthood and the highest echelons. I just, that's, and you might be right. You may very well be right there. But how that was.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Because they knew that there was tons of gold. Yeah, but we're also talking about the same people who and at this point it was past that point but like they thought they were you know fucking traveling to india when they i don't think i but i don't think that the story of them saying he was looking for a spice tree was right at all i think that's a that's a front they what i think that makes the most sense is because they knew how much gold was in specifically south america Most of the gold is around Cusco and Peru area. But there is gold in Mexico, and there is gold in, especially like Columbus found it in the Dominican Republic in Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Okay, so they knew it by the time Cortez got there in 15-something. They knew it based on the previous expeditions, that there was reasonable evidence that there was a fuckton of gold. And they probably also knew that there was a prophecy of the return of Quetzalcoatl. From already visiting and learning about that, is what I imagine. How else could they have known all those resources are there? Because they ended up finding what was at the time
Starting point is 01:04:36 the greatest catch of gold on Earth. Peru was the richest area of gold on the planet. And it wasn't until South Africa they discovered the massive reserves of gold on the planet and it wasn't until it wasn't until south africa they discovered the massive um reserves of gold under south africa that they found other places but peru had absolutely incredible wealth of gold i mean so much gold that you know the ancient um eldorado myth cusco was that place and cus when they first arrived in cusco it literally had gold just was um things were like not i'm trying to say
Starting point is 01:05:05 paved in gold but they were like covered in gold you called it a myth though well because they never able to prove what el dorado is i know but like francisco i'm obsessed with el dorado francisco de oriana yeah i mean he reported what he reported. Oh, I know. And it was written down. I think the reason there's a complication in that story is because they stole it all. And so the story is that, and I don't want to go too far offhand, but Cortes lands in Mexico, pretends he's Quetzalcoatl, captures Moctezuma, their leader. This is how it went. This is the only reason they defeated them. I don't know if you know this story. He captures Moctezuma, holds leader, this is how it went. This is the only reason they defeated them. I don't know if you know this story. He captures Moctezuma,
Starting point is 01:05:47 holds him for rancid. Then, of course, all the people realize he's not really Quetzalcoatl. Yeah, and then they all got sick too. Well, yeah, but then he executes. Oh, yeah. He kills Moctezuma, their leader, and then he subsequently goes to their,
Starting point is 01:06:00 the Aztec at the time were living on an island called Lake Texacoca. And they were living on an island that only had land bridges across it. It was this huge lake that's shallow. It's where today Mexico City is. And so what they did was they closed off the
Starting point is 01:06:16 access and exit points to the civilization on the island and starved everybody to death. And made everybody have no water and they all died. Literally, they caused a starvation and death. I think it's reported to be 100,000 people in Tenochtitlan.
Starting point is 01:06:32 So that was how they conquered the Aztec, was doing, being very very clever because they knew that in open battle, they would have lost. So they went to battle after the people in Tenochtitlan were all dying of thirst and hunger then they then they charged in with horses and armor and then just killed everybody
Starting point is 01:06:49 and at this point did they have more than 110 men no they were still i think it was 146 if i remember correctly and they lost like two how long they killed how long from arrival to starved them all out and came in and killed the rest? I think it was a couple years. But I mean, what we're talking about here is imagine an army of 140 or so people on horseback killing like 75,000 soldiers. Or 100,000 soldiers. They describe them as cutting them down like cattle, like farm animals. Now, relative to a lot of the stuff we're speaking about today, this is not that long ago.
Starting point is 01:07:31 No. It's like 500 years. But the reason I'm saying all this is that then right after that occurred, Court Pizarro conquered South America of the Inca. Same thing. They captured their leader, Atahualpa, held him a ransom for gold, but this time he said, because they knew the gold all came from there, he told them
Starting point is 01:07:50 he wanted to fill an entire room with gold. Like, that was like tons of gold. And they had it. And they knew it because of Cusco. So, but they couldn't invade Cusco yet because it was still being run
Starting point is 01:08:06 by the Inca. Hold on, you lost me for a second. I'm keeping it all straight. Someone saw Cusco. They were exploring South America. I don't think it was Pizarro. I think it was one of his scouts on a mountain saw Cusco and saw the gold
Starting point is 01:08:20 and then reported back to him and then they just, they're so smart they knew just like cortez knew that there's no way they could have conquered the entire inca they were just a massive army so they captured the leader pretending they're going to be in talks held them ransom for all the gold and they killed them problem was that atahualpa was the last of the royal bloodlines of the inca and when he died the entire Inca Empire went into chaos. So then they stormed Cusco and stole all the gold. And they came back with thousands of bullion, tons of bullion.
Starting point is 01:08:53 One of the greatest wealth transfers in human history. And the reason I'm saying all that is as horrible as that is. But all of a sudden what we saw, remember the crest of the flag of the Spanish Empire was the eagle. And what we saw all of a sudden what we saw, remember the crest of the flag of the Spanish Empire was the eagle. And what we saw all of a sudden is in Mexico, the flag of Mexico today is the eagle eating the serpent. And it was a representation subtly, because they love doing this. They love putting things subtly on flags and crests. And they're like, you guys are too stupid to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I think that's what they think. And so they put it right on their flag and crest to say like, look, we conquered all of you. That's what they think. And so they put it right on their flag and crest to say, look, we conquered all of you. That's what it was. Literally, the eagle is saying, all your serpent civilizations, so grand in your past and all those things, we just conquered all of you. And then the eagle went on to basically dominate every war empire throughout history. And we became largely a war and empire civilization after that point I mean what's to say we weren't before that in a lot of ways though we don't see evidence so before the younger dryus I know how do you explain Cortez oh oh before the younger dryus in ancient writings and text we
Starting point is 01:09:57 don't really find evidence of much war right but I'm saying like before this Eagle serpent switcheroo happens in 15 1600 area i mean it was all war oh that's the thing is that of course and by that point remember we talked about the energy of a cycle remember last night the energy of cycles even the aztec and the maya were just a shell of their former self by that point anyway if cortez had tried to conquer them 100 years later it would have been a totally different outcome or 200 years later it's like they were already a broken version of themselves that was doing blood sacrifice and turning into war and you want to know another thing you want to know what the aztec warriors were called the eagle warriors and yeah that platform the jaguar and eagles i told
Starting point is 01:10:46 you about chichen itza shows that they had became like corrupted by later influences so i mean we just went off on that whole thing but that's what comes down to is that there was like a competition through of ancient civilizations and different influences throughout history okay so let's try to so did did you cover everything you wanted to in the eagle serpent for now yeah i just i just i just i will just say though is that um we see serpent um depictions all throughout mesopotamia iraq sumer it's supposed it was the most and eagle it was they were the two most ancient symbols of our entire civil of our past and they're diametrically opposed to each other in the symbol that's the whole point though that's why they were created they're just archetypes of realms of
Starting point is 01:11:33 reality and and duality and polarity are remember the universal laws i told you you have to follow those are constants in the universe fill me in in again. There's constants that exist in the universe, like laws. They're called universal laws. Duality, polarity are constants in the universe. It means that there always must be a good and a bad. There always must be the two sides. And so they're just fulfilling. For a reaction, there's an equal but opposite reaction.
Starting point is 01:12:01 They're just fulfilling roles that are supposed to be filled. That's it. that's it that's it that's we can't hate on how things have gone because honestly it's human nature it's just human nature okay so let's try to let's try to swing back again we were talking about the end of the ultra hasis so just as we're getting back into it because i don't know how long it was we just went on the tangent is it nighttime already oh it is but we're okay we're getting back into it because i don't know how long it was we just went on the tangent is it nighttime already oh it is but we're okay we're good on time fill people in on what you were talking about just very quickly on the ultra haste so we're caught back so let's i know we talk about going i don't think i've ever gone to so many topics so it's great man i love it so okay we're gonna get back to the ultra haste so he's told to build this unsinkable, incredible craft because he has to survive an event that is like incredible, right? All inspiring.
Starting point is 01:12:50 And he does. He builds it. And it talks about how he goes to the other elders of the community to help him. But they don't believe him or go with him. Isn't that interesting? The other elders help him, but none of them go. And none of them go and none of them believe it's going to happen and they all die so he builds this craft it's crazy to think about
Starting point is 01:13:10 he builds this craft he takes his family he's got a wife i think he's got like two kids when you say craft what are we talking it is a boat that's true yes not a starship i know some people have asked me that no it is a boat because it's described in great detail just see fucking no going i know i know right right out yeah um no it's described as using bitumen and using cedar to create like an unsinkable craft ah yes okay okay yep so he brings his family he's got um sons and daughters right but specifically three sons that's very important for us to get across he specifically has three sons why do you say specifically because that's what this whole story goes with japeth remember with king hake i know yes yes yes yes okay now you're back we're back okay i'll put that genealogy in the corner
Starting point is 01:13:58 screen again for people so in the story he lands on the the only place that has land at that time in the region. It's described, they send out the doves and they don't come back until, yeah, he lands on Mount Ararat. It's true. Now, for those who don't know, Mount Ararat is a big mountain. It's over 17,000 feet high. It is by far the largest mountain in Asia Minor. And it's the largest mountain until you get to Pakistan and the Himalayas. Okay?
Starting point is 01:14:23 It's a big mountain. It's an inactive volcano. So he lands up there and Enlil comes down. That's what it's described as. And it was like, it basically is accosting him. How he could have survived. And Enki comes down with him and says, I am the one who warned him. I am the one who told him so that his bloodline can be preserved.
Starting point is 01:14:46 And they get into this argument on the mountain. They get into an argument, him saying, you Enki were supposed to have a plan. You're supposed to follow what was told to you. Mankind was supposed to be wiped out. How would this man survive? Blah, blah, blah. And what happens is they agree on a pact. This is what's so important is
Starting point is 01:15:06 they agree on a pact that he would become the last immortal human ever to live again if blessed immortal immortal yes yeah yeah and then human beings went down in age after that if and there was an if but can i have a quick question yeah go ahead you had said this way earlier last podcast we talked about immortal and you mentioned like living a thousand years maybe or something like that yeah that's not immortal because they still die well i mean you can still kill them so they got so they're still killed we're still organic beings so they had to get killed i'm sure if they got like a horrible sickness they would die too but from old age bravo okay specifically old age and it relates to the telomere caps on our on our
Starting point is 01:15:53 cells the telomere caps basically degrade after a certain amount of time and we haven't totally figured out how to repair them well for them the telomere caps just did not degrade like that. It just didn't. And so it's reported that after that point, human beings, the reins and the lives of them became very short in comparison. live and his family would be allowed to live if they the sons would take up if this this is what's so crazy if the sons would would rebuild the new world yeah talk about a task yeah if they would rebuild the entire new world they but they would have to adhere to very specific things. And what it meant was... Who are they going to procreate with, though? They had their sons, and then there were pockets of humans around the world. Okay, so it's not like they have to...
Starting point is 01:16:55 There's definitely other people, but when they meant no man should survive, I think Enlil was talking about his bloodline. They're these demigod type of bloodlines. I don't think it related to every human being on the planet okay just to be clear okay so they made an agreement that the suns would go to different parts of the earth that's what they said it was like you need to go to these different places and create civilizations then but what they must have and this is a bit of speculation on my point they must have decided to just do it of speculation on my point they must have decided
Starting point is 01:17:25 to just do it differently because all of a sudden for the first time we see the rise of megaliths before to be clear these structures in mesopotamia in iraq these cities they had specifically wanted them to use brick they for some reason energetically they they really preferred brick but brick doesn't last maybe they didn't care about that back then i don'tgetically they they really preferred brick but brick doesn't last maybe they didn't care about that back then i don't know but they they initially had built everything in brick and then all of a sudden after this event we see the rise of megaliths with stone out of nowhere and that's the whole point so they they state to them you need to go to different parts of the world and create different civilizations, but some have to be on the domain of Enlil or Enki.
Starting point is 01:18:11 That's the way to describe it. Like, for instance, we find the same gods shared throughout Turkey and Greece as this area, showing it was like Enlil's domain, if I can make it clear about that. Whereas, we see another group that just diverged and went down to Egypt, and then down through Mauritania that seems to have created Atlantis. So there seems to be two super civilizations that emerged at the height of both groups leaving, which was the Athenians and the Atlanteans. But how do we get there? And that's where i'm going to take you right now is i have genetic proof about that as well as archaeological proof to show that this entire story comes from somewhere okay let's see it so at lake vaughn i was studying zernaki tepe and then cavus tepe
Starting point is 01:18:57 came up now if you remember where we left off on cavus tepe there's a king list that was found at cavus tepe that talked about how the king was known as king hake and that in at and in the bloodlines that's very well easy to find for king hake that he was a direct descendant and he talked about it too he's very proud he was a direct descendant of japeth and now we know from these ancient bloodlines that japeth was a son of noah yes and what was the other name again zaiasudra so it like exactly mirrors supposedly that story but but we have the evidence to now back it up now i want to take it to another step in 2017 this is a discovery that no i don't i don't believe anybody knows about this even ben i'll put this in the corner of the screen even Even Ben. Well, he knows now. Yeah. There was a site, and I stumbled across this by accident, just literally by searching for structures.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And also, there was a group that visited that site that took a couple pictures. But if you look at it, there's no excavations that are being done at all. Okay. So the first thing to note about this is the name. It's called Kef kalesi and instead of all the names are so cool yeah well uh kef kalesi so if you remember from game of thrones her name is kalesi yes it means castle yes okay it means castle so i don't even watch game of thrones but i knew that kef kalesi may be the most important of all these sites. And why it's important is that
Starting point is 01:20:26 not only did they find these basalt megaliths that look just like Kavis Tepe, you see that? On top of the mountain. But they're strewn everywhere like a catastrophe just threw them all over the place. Now remember when you asked, look at Kavis Tepe.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Remember when you asked why there's primitive work underneath it? I it right here because they found the stones strewn everywhere and just put them back together like like a jigsaw puzzle but they did it like they can't one after the other but they can't recreate them wait who the eurations the eurasian civilization that is credited as being the ones that built this so who found them the eurasian civilization that is credited as being the ones that built this. So who found them? The Eurasian civilization, thousands and thousands... Oh, the ones who rebuilt it. I'm sorry, the ones who rebuilt it.
Starting point is 01:21:12 When you said built it, I'm thinking the original. So they went back to these sites, they knew how sacred they were, and then they built right on top of them. And then they were destroyed later too. Bravo, okay. Then they disappeared, but more through war and different means like that. Okay, so in Kefkalesi, not only do you have these incredibly
Starting point is 01:21:29 precise blocks like we see in Kavistepi on this mountaintop, which by the way is below a massive volcano called Sufondagi. It's 13,000 feet high. But they found ruins of the city of the civilization underwater in Lake Vaughan.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Do you see that in the image? Yes. This is where it gets wild. They determined that geologically, when they looked at the lake levels, that the last time the lake was low enough to be able to build on the bottom of, remember, that lake is 1,500 feet deep. It's not on the bottom of remember that lake is is 1500 feet deep it's not on the bottom bottom but i mean it's it's on like down right so this isn't but it's on the bottom wherever it is but this isn't necessarily at the 1500 feet no no no no but it's right below
Starting point is 01:22:15 the ruins on the mountain that you just saw how far deep just for an idea how deep is this over 50 feet deep that's not that yes but yes but they built a civilization there yeah now in lake titicaca in bolivia we see the same thing we see ruins underwater there when the lake was at a completely different time period now when geologists studied ice they took cores of the sediments in the bottom of lake vaughn and they studied it because it's one of the oldest lakes on earth they found that the last time the lake and they admitted they're perplexed about the ruins and even in the articles they wrote they mentioned that they were perplexed at the ruins because they're underwater they mentioned in a separate study that that in that the lake was last low enough
Starting point is 01:22:58 or at its lowest maximum 15,000 years ago. So now that's older than Golbekli Tepe. And it means that those ruins, those ruins of Kefkalesi are at least 15,000 years. At least. They're such, they're intact. It's a megalithic blocks just like above the ground. So, now we're going to even there the layer to it who's this
Starting point is 01:23:25 guy is this the dude who found it or is that just a random that's an archaeologist holding an artifact from that site oh he's holding something yeah in his finger in his hand yeah i can't see okay so let's look you got that you got the megaliths on top of the mountain you got the megaliths under the water right and you got this another one for the corner of the mountain you got the megaliths under the water right and you got this another one for the corner of the screen it was a giant box with incredibly precise carving this is above ground that was found found above ground i it was like oh you know where that was found there's a there's a city that's there's a town right in between the mount and the lake that they found it in when they were excavating in like an old school. They found it in the bottom of like ancient ruins below the city, below the town. So back to your.
Starting point is 01:24:17 So Kefka, that's the area though. Back to your original potential like tsunami thing. Yeah. It's making a lot of sense. I know. And so they find this gigantic relief box okay and what did this is i mean dude talk about tying things together it has the same depictions as the anuna it has the same type of handing the pine cone down you know has the wings holy
Starting point is 01:24:40 then guess what you learn the god name is god Haldi it's the same as Enlil are those eagles up there? son of a bitch why are they standing on the little lions? because Enlil's two symbols were the lion and the eagle what about the serpent? that was Enki, that was his rival
Starting point is 01:24:59 remember? sorry I'm trying to keep it straight I'm just looking closely at this down here. So that God name of them that's depicted in that, his name is Haldi. Now, sorry, but I just don't think that... Let me see. Yeah, that's the Tree of Life in the center. It's the same thing. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Oh my God. It's the exact same thing. I don't believe that that's an archetype of nature. I really believe- An English archetype of nature. That is a real being. That's what we've been talking about from the very beginning, is that it's an actual Anuna from Sumer that are the same ones that are ruling and creating civilization and all
Starting point is 01:25:40 this stuff. Those conversations on the mountain, they're real. And that's Haldi and that's Enlil. And so, clearly, he's the one who got the domain of Lake Vaughn. Clearly. Right? It must have been the agreement. Because then you can trace it, and we're going to trace it back to Greece
Starting point is 01:25:56 with the ancient Athenian civilization, okay? Now, before we... This is... I just want to say, this is absurd. It's like too good, right? This is just, you know, Matt, even if you're like 30% right about stuff, it's mind-blowing. That's the thing. I want to show you these two really quick while I talk about them, and I just want you to look at them really quick.
Starting point is 01:26:21 These are ancient biblical bloodline migration routes of these families, and I want you just to look at it really quick before I say it, because I like your reactions. They're pretty awesome. Alright. What's the one on the left? Because you just handed me two things. This is a map over here on the right. These were already existing, and what happened
Starting point is 01:26:40 was that's so fascinating, again, is when I matched up these kings lists and these locations with these ancient bloodline charts it matched Not only similar but precisely what you're looking at are are you know, not that I'm sorry turn that over This right here and the other side of that Okay, they're double-sided. Yep They're showing you bloodlines that were depicted
Starting point is 01:27:07 of different regions of the world. I'll have this in the corner of the screen. I'm going to have the one with the language real fast on the corner of the screen. Mary Magnum. I might be reading this wrong. Mary Magnum.
Starting point is 01:27:18 No, look at the names. Look at the other names. Japeth, Shem. See them? Yes. Yes, I see them. Okay. Now look at the chart and look at the one below you. Is that written in
Starting point is 01:27:27 calligraphy? What do we call that? Yeah, I think so. Look at the one below you, though. Now look at the map. Okay. See how they have different colors for where they supposedly went. No. Look at the color. Oh, I'm looking at the right side. Sorry. The left side. So one, two.
Starting point is 01:27:46 So see how there's like Egypt was one color, and then you see how Turkey and the Mediterranean is one, and then you see how the Persian area goes down as another? Kind of. The three suns went to three different regions of the world, is what it's saying. I'm making this note for myself to put that one in the corner of the screen so now if you remember from um king hake remember keep keep no keep the one you're right right here no the other one get pull that out now remember remember um remember
Starting point is 01:28:19 king hake is is a descendant of japeth remember that yes yes right on there is a descendant of japeth it says japeth went to europa that's exactly where the kingless mentions as being an ancestor on remember now then it talks about how the sons some of the sons went to different places it says that sham went to egypt and guess what? Created the Great Pyramids of Egypt. He's Thoth. He's Thoth. If people want to know... Thoth is the ancient Egyptian god of wisdom and knowledge who supposedly is the one who
Starting point is 01:28:57 may even be connected to the Amaruka and the feathered serpent. So he's a god. He's a son of Enki, and he's connected to the serpent and the dragon. So Egypt, if you go to Egypt today and you look at the pharaohs, they have a cobra on their front forehead, representing the snake, the knowledge. The symbols follow
Starting point is 01:29:13 us everywhere. There's no serpents in that part of Turkey or in Greece in the same way, because the influences were different. Now, we're going to track this through archaeological discoveries and libraries all the way to Atlantis in the Athenian civilization. We've just begun on this part. I just wanted you to see those bloodlines because it's incredible.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Okay? Okay, so. All right, keep going. Let's keep going. So, let me see. Take whatever you need. Okay. We got papers. We got research. Yeah, we got a lot need. Okay. We got papers.
Starting point is 01:29:46 We got research. Yeah, we got a lot of stuff here. We got preparation. So, okay. So, anyway, I want to just mention the three sons, and they're listed with somewhat different names because, for instance, Ham sometimes is spelled as Sham with a C-H. Yes. So, you know, if I say something and it's slightly different, there's multiple spellings
Starting point is 01:30:04 for these sometimes, okay? So, Zayasudra, and I want to be clear about this, had three sons. His three sons were Shem, Ham, or Cham, and Japheth. Yes. Now, we've already established the first one. We established that Japheth created Kavis-Tepi and those civilizations around Lake Vaughan. Now, this is what I call the link between everything. I call it the Ararat or Lake Vaughan civilization, and it is going to become, in my opinion, the most important archaeological area in the world in the future.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Because it's that link that then connects everything else. Now, it may seem that way, but are you saying that because you want it to be true or you're high confident that it could you're high confident no i'm saying that because the evidence is pointing towards that unequivocally who have you spoken to about this i've deliberately not spoken to anybody you haven't talked with randall or ben about i um i i don't feel like i respect their work enormously but i don't feel like i need that to find clarity in my my part i've done this a long time but now that you're public with it because i'd be happy to talk to them about it after i'm no issues with that at all now you're going to want to talk to people i would be happy to debate anybody on this or discuss not even debate that's all i'm talking about okay i'm saying to to further i mean add more minds to
Starting point is 01:31:21 the mix as long as you know there's not closed-mindedness coming in or something i'm happy to do you help to find new things i'm happy to do that okay okay so the first place we'll go on this journey and when we continue to connect all this together is i don't have any images of in front of me but again getting back to um remember what diodorus and solon and yes there were two civilizations that had become super civilizations. For people who are listening to the second podcast, because I believe we did it in the first, a quick 30 to 60 second refresher. So we have to, we were basically providing the best evidence to show that Atlantis was real, right? And we're talking about how it comes, it's far more than just plato it's plato's descriptions but you get into this
Starting point is 01:32:06 this elder priest of the temple of saith in egypt named sanchez you find out and you find out that diodorus and solon and socrates they all were played a part in this but and what this temple priest stated to solon when he discussed him the old ancient world was that there were two civilizations that had reached like this pinnacle essentially what i want to call it is that and it's funny because they didn't they didn't mention egypt which is weird because the pyramids there but they apparently labeled these all in a different category but you were also talking down the library alexandria earlier and other things as well about egypt i mean we're gonna i do want to get to the pyramids before you have to get on your flight but that was interesting to me yeah okay so they mentioned that there is
Starting point is 01:32:50 a civilization that becomes highly sophisticated advanced called the ancient uh atlanteans and described as being near like the azore islands area west of the pillars of hercules and listen for all the people that are going to go what about about the rich out structure in Maritania? I have no doubt based on the genealogy of the kings of Atlas in that region, that there was certainly some kind of a connection with that location archaeologically, except until we find some kind of archaeological evidence from the rich out structure, it's going to purely be just a hypothesis. But I just want to make that clear because I'm not close-minded to that not being somehow part of atlantis okay noted great so what we find is that um they describe how there's these two pinnacles of civilization pretty much of all time and it's
Starting point is 01:33:40 this atlantean civilization and then another rival civilization called the athenians or the pre-greeks and they talk about how those two were this predominant civilizations now how did the athenians according to what you study how did the athenian civilizations advancement or i guess like abilities compare with atlantis how close it just seems to have definitely delved into a completely different side of things because you said digital yeah they they seem to have delved into things that maybe they weren't supposed to too because it even in some descriptions describe them as perhaps playing a role in their own destruction like physically yeah i know what does that look like well imagine if you were playing with energy technology weapons they discuss how they started using creating weapon technology and how maybe they
Starting point is 01:34:32 misused it on the on the mid-atlantic ridge and like caused their own destruction bitch this is continue so what they are saying is atlantis lost its, and that Thoth was once a priest there, but not the same incarnation as before. It states that he's had many incarnations, okay? It states that he's had many incarnations in that he was an ancient... No, he's not part... He's not on that. But it states that he had an incarnation in Atlantis in the later in his life after after after the initial Egypt
Starting point is 01:35:08 and that he Left with a lot of sages when Atlantis became corrupted It talked about how they started playing with like black magic and technologies and weapons and all these things and how they lean in the Athenians Yeah, the Athenians were the only ones that could stand up to them but in a way where they were like masters of maritime masters and were the best soldiers in the world
Starting point is 01:35:34 is what it's described as the Athenians I mean it makes sense watch 300 right yeah and so but they're way well and by the way there's a side note they thought Troy was a myth by the way we found Troy. Yeah. Where's Troy again?
Starting point is 01:35:47 Troy's in Western Turkey. Everything's in fucking Turkey. So anyway, quickly, we're realizing that so much that was a myth is actually real. And so getting back where we were, if in Greece today, outside of Delphi and outside of athens we find massive and beautiful megalithic work on the lowermost levels of a lot of structures and then more primitive stuff on top from the actual greeks it's there and not many people are talking about it ben is well aware of it and there are others from you know megalithic marvels and other other on social media sites that try to point this out they show images
Starting point is 01:36:25 of people standing next to them there's a there's one where there's a guy standing next to one of these megalithic walls in greece and the block is like taller than him the block oh my god so the precision is there and it's it's showing you that there was a path from Lake Vaughn that Japeth took with Haldi, the Enlil's god. And by the way, Haldi, Enlil was the Sumerian name. Haldi was the Armenian Ararat name. And then he became, you know, the whole Olympian gods. You know, Zeus? Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:57 He's Zeus. Dude, he became Zeus in Greece. How far back are we right now? What do you think the Titans versus the Olympians were, man? It was Atlantis versus the Athenians. how far back are we what do you think the titans versus the olympians were man yeah it was atlantis versus the athenians how far back are we right now we are way back like ballpark well over 14 well over 14 well over 13 14 000 years ago now before younger drives yeah i remember imagine this where is olympus where is mount Mount Olympus? The Olympians, Mount Olympus is in Greece. Zeus is the head of Mount Olympus as the younger generation gods acquainted them. And in Atlantis, the Titans were supposed to be the older generation gods of they came way before them and had incredible civilizations and then turned them into these features like Zeus can throw lightning and shit? No, I think they could actually do that.
Starting point is 01:37:54 I think they were very, very powerful, and I think we continuously underestimate what they are. So they're like magic? You know the best way to describe them? They keep making all these superhero movies and X-Men things. It's like that. That's the best way I can describe it. I feel like maybe that's the whole point of why they're making them. Is there evidence for that?
Starting point is 01:38:16 Or is it just like legendary text? Well, for instance, I'll just give you an example. The story of Viracocha is that Viracocha came out of nowhere. And that there were indigenous people living there and they tried to attack him. And that he put on, this isn't me saying this. magic in front of them and of course what that means right and completely stop them in their tracks just to show that he's not like them now what that means of course we technologies we have to some indigenous group in the jungle would be magic too but what i mean is that same thing is echoed in egypt as well is it's described in egypt originally had a primitive sort of group living there and that when the original these original groups came there they had to do a display of something incredible and then
Starting point is 01:39:09 then the then those indigenous people would be part of them and work with them okay does that make sense yes okay so we we covered what i think is pretty clear following the megaliths through turkey san simeon gobek, Gobekli Tepe, that whole area, and then you go and Greece is right there. And you go west of Turkey and Greece is right there. We have more connections, though. That's not it. Of course it's not. The connection with all of this between Lake Vaughan and era civilizations in syria and i admit i haven't spent a lot of time studying previously syria because i didn't know what was there and because i feel like it may be one of the most under-talked about
Starting point is 01:39:54 of any of these regions in the world is also in modern day for what's going on there exactly exactly so in syria there's a site called ain d. I want you to take a look at this. All right, corner of the screen. Now, do you remember when we were at the telltale sign from the Ararat civilization of Lake Vaughan? They were building with basalt, do you remember? Basalt is volcanic. It's very hard. It's a telltale sign.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Ain Dara is built entirely out of basalt. Entirely. The entire thing. Now, what does it say down there next to the star? Destroyed in Turkey in 28... by turkey turkish government erdogan destroyed this turkey the turkish government accidentally dropped a bomb on aindar and destroyed the entire site before we could study it before we could study it it's gone this whole it's gone. This whole... It's gone. It's all gone. They destroyed it before we could study it. God damn you. Let me see that for a second.
Starting point is 01:40:50 So, there's your lion. There's your lion from Sumer. Yeah. And from Turkey. It's right there. And there's your basalt. And they have an ancient king list that connects back, too. Not only that, but it's supposedly the same bloodline that we that we're described in
Starting point is 01:41:06 that list all right time out for one minute i gotta go to the bathroom we'll be right back all right we're back pick up where you left off thank you so one of the the aspects of this that we were talking about that was so sad is that this incredible site called ain dara in syria not only is it unlike anything else in that region but before we were able to even study it the turkish government destroyed it in 2018 as an accident they state now what's so crazy about this place is that when they first discovered it um they found this multi-ton massive basalt lion buried and that's the only reason they found it was because his head was sticking up off the ground. It was under these layers of soil.
Starting point is 01:41:50 And they realized that the entire temple was built out of basalt. And as far as they know, there's very few places in the world that you can even see that. Because basalt is so hard. It's such a hard material to work with. But it mimics the same use of basalt that we find at the lake vaughn era civilization with cavus tepe and kef kalesi they only use basalt there and it's so it's interesting that we're finding the same lion depictions and the same depictions from that region all of a sudden that we are here showing you evidence of uh the way they went basically
Starting point is 01:42:27 if you imagine that these sons and these in these sages these creators of these civilizations are creating something and then moving on and that's exactly what we're seeing here is that the same iterations that had led to the creation of the lake vaughn cavus tepe and um Lake Vaughan, Kavis Tepe, Zernake Tepe, and Kef Kalesi, those influences moved here. And they had the same architecture, same style, same everything. But now it's all the way southwest in Syria, right? But where are we getting close to? We're getting close to the Mediterranean. And that's what's really interesting about this is that by using these sites, we're now
Starting point is 01:43:04 able to link the path they took which matches exactly with those bloodline charts supposedly of where these family members went okay now so based on that it means that we can take and and associate the fact that this entire region was the same influences that moved westward. But we had some different influences as well, and I want to show that. The second place in Syria that pops up that connects all this is something that I've been studying for a good six or eight months because it's a fascinating place, and again, nobody talks about it.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I don't know why. It's called Ebla. And in Ebla, Syria, one of the— How do you spell that? E-B-L-A. Okay. place and again nobody talks about it i don't know why it's called ebla and in ebla syria uh e-b-l-a okay and one of the reasons it's overlooked is that we feed we see the classic examples in ebla of very very primitive work on top um just like we see everyone's in the world but then sections of it are these ancient ancient bases and i have images of that here i don't know if you're going to be able to really find that but basically what we're seeing is two completely distinct types of
Starting point is 01:44:10 architecture i don't know if you want to look especially this one look at the big blocks versus the small crude stuff on top can some of you can corner the screen for this as well can you notice the difference between those two yes one is like is like rounded, like stacked blocks. Big, large blocks. The other one is those blocks similar to this. Similar to Zernakitepe as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we see that, yes, the megalithic building is there. And if anything, it actually looks more like Zernakitepe than Kavistepi, which is weird.
Starting point is 01:44:39 So what I'm trying to say is Ebla Siria isn't that far from Ain Dara. But the thing is that Zernaki Tepe, the way that they constructed those blocks, looks very similar to Ebla. Whereas Kavis Tepe and Kef Kalesi, again, the same region, look like Ain Dara, showing you that the influences from there diverged. They started going to different parts of the world, but they were in the same area to start, is what I'm saying. How that came about, I don don't know i don't know why one group would would prefer to build slightly different than another and then like why one would be only want to do basalt like so there's questions we don't know we don't know why they made the decisions they did but what connects and sinks this whole thing is that the second largest library ever found in the ancient world
Starting point is 01:45:24 besides the ashurbanipal library we talked about was in ebla now in ebla they found what's called the royal library in king's list and in that they found ancient writings in their library that were sumerian babylonian turkish from this area ar Armenian area. They found Cyprus writings from the Mediterranean, and they found writings from Egypt. I think even Greek, too. All... Everything. Everything.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Right there. Why? Well, you go into Ebla and you look it up, you find out that it was like the center of the old world, where to get to the mediterranean you had to pass through ebla and then to get to the black sea and then the lake vaughn you had to go through ebla because it clearly everybody was traveling through the mediterranean obviously maritime travel was very significant right so ebla was like the crossing of all of this and we have
Starting point is 01:46:21 all the writings there in that journal are all i, in the library. They're all there. And so, Ebla, if you look at a map, Ebla is right before the Mediterranean. Meanwhile, right next to Ebla in Lebanon, we find the emergence of gigantic megaliths that
Starting point is 01:46:40 look like Ebla, but bigger. They look very similar. The type of stone, the type of ways they made the work the influences of the ebola architecture is right there in lebanon whereas the influences of the more volcanic basalt goes to somewhere else it's like you can see they're they're moving around and they're they're adopting certain sites and they're and they're creating things as they go right so as we go along, we learn that Ebla leads to the land of Canaan, which is
Starting point is 01:47:08 supposedly where the last of the giants were, and the whole connection to the Book of Enoch. Then, we go a little bit further. What we find is that we have done genetic studies of these elongated skulls. Have you seen this? No. So in Egypt
Starting point is 01:47:24 we found some elongated skulls. Have you seen this? No. In Egypt, we've found some elongated skulls related to Akhenaten. Then we also found elongated skulls in Peru at a place called Paracas. Okay? Please? The elongated skulls we're referring to are not based on cranium enlargement.
Starting point is 01:47:42 So they were mimicking... It looks like what we're finding around the world is... I have one on here if you want to look at it yeah let me see this brats brian forster right there he's when he was one of the curators of the museum at paracas good friend of mine and a great researcher this is a real skull yeah it looks like that yeah so what they found was not only do they find it there but this is those other versions of humans i told you about this is what they were if you want to know this is what those bloodlines and what they that they were so what we found is that we not only find similar architecture in peru that we find in the lake vaughn area but you ready for
Starting point is 01:48:17 this not only did brian forrester and lloyd pie do genetic testing on the paraca skulls but the company i the tv network i work for, Gaia, did an entire showcase where they genetically tested them as well. Through all these genetic studies, they found the same results. The genetics of the Paracas skulls from Peru came from the Armenian Black Sea area of Lake Vaughan. And they found elongated skulls in a place called Malta in the Mediterranean on an island
Starting point is 01:48:48 and in the hippogeum this chamber that's basically designed to 432 hertz human consciousness they found elongated these aren't just one elongated skull they're like a graveyard of elongated skulls and they found them in Paracas so they genetically test the ones in Paracas, Peru to test back to this lake font area of the near the black sea then they test another whole
Starting point is 01:49:12 part of the world in the mediterranean and they test at malta with this you know incredibly if anyone's ever seen the oracle chamber in the hippogeum of malta it's like amazing the way they designed it's beautiful the skulls they found elongated skulls there and they genetically traced them to the exact same spot lake vaughn in the in the armenian highlands of the mount ararat region both places cross the world similar architecture traced back to the same spot that's why if we think of the story of the atrahasis bringing it back this bloodline king that's like a demigod it's living like huge amounts of time lands on mount ararat everybody else is mostly gone there was another there was another group i told you about
Starting point is 01:49:57 a kish with a tana that's a those so there was like two two areas that sort of reemerged again, right? So just go back to Lake Vaughan for a minute. So think about it. He's this like superhuman that's like a demigod with a bloodline that these three sons go out, and then we find the same architecture, same gods all around the world, same influences, as well as the genetic exact identity of these locations back to the same place,
Starting point is 01:50:24 which matches the ancient all the bloodlines biblical bloodlines we showed you so not everyone mimicked what we're seeing here though in in later generations obviously if we're just going to talk about the skulls to start with okay so it looks like these people potentially had a natural large skull but it died off at some point yes and with those groups and then other groups came along to try to mimic them later which is sort of like how in mesopotamia today in modern-day iraq people still look like that why is this with the beard and everything yeah but why is this skull so perfectly preserved? They had to glue it back together. It was broken.
Starting point is 01:51:06 But still, like it even exists. Because the Paracas people were protecting them. So there was a group in Peru called the Paracas people, and they were protecting an ancient graveyard that had these demigod influences of these skulls. Oh my god. Because they considered them to be very important to their history so how does this all tie in together well it basically ties in because we can now trace
Starting point is 01:51:34 this trajectory of the ancient sumerian kings to this re-emergence of civilization around lake vaughn in this brand new civilization that I'm calling the Aras civilization. Or Lake Vaughn civilization. Depends. And then that was like the emergence of what became the greatest chapter of human history we've ever had in our past. And what's that?
Starting point is 01:51:58 What eventually became that rose up to become the Athenians and the Atlanteans. Out of this. Got it. And so just to recap in terms of how Atlantis connects. We got to the Athenians and the Atlanteans. Out of this. Got it. And so just to recap in terms of how Atlantis connects, we got to the Athenians, right? Because that's like an easy trajectory, right, to Greece. But for this, it's described that Chem or Cham
Starting point is 01:52:16 was the one that was in charge of Egypt and Africa. One of the brothers. Yes. And what it states is that, and I have a book that is an old book from the 1800s that I don't remember the name off my head, but they speculate in that the same thing. And I ignored it originally. And I read this concept in an old, old book about the Great Pyramid of Giza, and I sort of rejected it right away. But now it turns out, I think it's true. And what it states in that is that they, a group, the Shem or Cham group, went down to and then created the Great Pyramids in Egypt in the land of Chem. And then they traveled through Africa and then they went to Mauritania. And that's why the Richat structure's there. And they created, that's where the Sons of Atlas came
Starting point is 01:53:02 from, which then emerged into atlantis which we know is ruled by poseidon who we know is enki so it's like there's two parallel civilizations who are rivaling against each other and that is basically how the whole thing connects and then those civilizations destroyed catastrophes came through wiped out the old ancient world, other iterations tried to come along, but over time, myths became legend, and legend became what we thought is not real at all. And now we're realizing that there's an entire incredible chapter of human history that may go back far before even the Younger Darius. So considering you just did this over a long period of time, can you sum up exactly, as a review, basically a repetition of what you've done, what you've found, and why it changes history? Yeah, I know, because it's like someone's going to have to listen to five hours, right?
Starting point is 01:53:56 Well, it's not just that. It's that there's long explanations of different mazes and rabbit holes along the way, so I just want to sum it up. Let me give like a five-minute summary. Please. You have the floor. So I became somewhat of an expert, I guess, studying the ancient Sumerian tablets,
Starting point is 01:54:11 the Canaanite and Babylonian tablets. And in that, I ended up realizing and understanding that a lot of what used to be mythical cities in there that were not supposed to really be as old as they say or whatever, were real. And then they were finding evidence of catastrophic events that had occurred there, right? And that allowed me to start piecing these,
Starting point is 01:54:30 putting these pieces together and then create a timeline in which I then got stuck because I couldn't figure out how anything left Sumer. Because there was such an incredible event that occurred again, that destruction that all of a sudden there was like a gap between it. And all was a legend of atana with kish with this re-emergence of the new world but it didn't explain any of the megaliths anywhere it didn't explain any of those other things anywhere and so i was like i don't you know it was it was difficult i was trying to figure it out and again these new discoveries in eastern turkey what happened was these brand new five to nine year discoveries in Eastern
Starting point is 01:55:06 Turkey are uncovering the remnants of what looks like a completely unknown previous civilization on earth. And it's being credited right now, falsely to the Eurasian civilization. That's very similar to like the Hittites, which is just a later group that, that came thousands of years later. And what we're finding is that there's a direct,
Starting point is 01:55:24 direct connection between the ancient tablets of what happened to the Sumerian kings and how they really did land on Mount Ararat and how there really was like a sacred bloodline that traversed and then created, basically emerged the civilizations of Lake Vaughan, Mount Ararat civilizations, which at that point,
Starting point is 01:55:42 a new chapter of human civilization seems to have started and what i mean by that is sophistication seems to have come out of nowhere and it started at lake fawn though and then those giant megaliths and precision seemed to spread all over the world and created the great pyramids of giza and then eventually gave rise to the ancient athenian civilization that predated the g and then the Atlantean civilization out in the Atlantic. And that entire story seems to be interconnected by both new archaeological sites, DNA testing, as well as these ancient bloodlines that we're studying. Amazing stuff, man. Amazing stuff. I mean, it's so cool to me that people,
Starting point is 01:56:23 you know, you can get really interested in something as you did. I mean, you were interested in this for a long time, but you really got into it like 10 years ago. And you just kind of keep going down, keep going down thing and track down something that, you know, again, like, when I look at stuff like this, it's like, even if you're 30% right about stuff, this is huge. Yeah, it is. There's a lot there. And like, people like to talk about, like, in an urban mythological type way about El Dorado or Atlantis or something, but these are potentially
Starting point is 01:57:03 insanely advanced civilizations that have existed in places that we can see right now that we have no concept of in this world where we've made all this innovation and all these things that are supposed to be able to help us look back in time. And yet we seem to just take the one definition of things and look back only a certain way it's it's an amazing amazing thing yeah and it's i feel very lucky to have this in my lap and i want to do i want to do justice and and be respectful of their story our story i want to tell it in the way that's not trying not to be biased or trying to inject my own things into it i think that the ancient people were incredible and i think that if anything we're trying to get back to them not the other way around and i the way that i look at
Starting point is 01:57:51 this is look these discoveries in eastern turkey along big around lake vaughan are so new that they're almost it's almost hard to wrap our heads around how new they are because we haven't had anything new like that found a long time and they're again five to nine years old and those archaeologists you know thank you istanbul university all those people yeah you guys may not know what you're doing but you are uncovering the missing link of history if anybody from that listens to this and i want to say that i'm in talks about creating a mini doc series or something with this. And I'm going to looking for funding and potential avenues to be on the first plane to Eastern Turkey. That would be awesome. Yeah, I think you have to get out.
Starting point is 01:58:33 I need to get out to there. And I know exactly what I'm looking for. And I need to. It's time. This is I feel like this is like the missing piece of our entire story that we've been trying to figure out. And I think that this understanding that comes out of this will forever change both our understanding of our past and who we really are in the future. It's heavy shit, man. It's really fucking heavy.
Starting point is 01:58:59 But I've waited on – I wanted you to be able to go through this and land it all day because we're on the second podcast now obviously and you've been going through all the context of everything. But along the way, as I've hinted when it's happened a few times, you've been going through the things that tie back to like pyramids. Okay, you want to talk about pyramids again, yeah. And stuff like that. So I haven't really stopped you from going off and and going on to that all the way but the pyramids are something that you know i feel like the internet is so informed on at this point and it's a it's a mystery to me that that i didn't get interested i mean i didn't get interested in a lot of this stuff until maybe like a year or two ago in a lot of ways so i still feel like such a novice
Starting point is 01:59:42 new student to it but you know we were looking at the cuban ruins underwater earlier that clearly have clearly have yeah pyramid uh i guess like elements there and they've been called by the geologists and others it's impossible to be natural right so we've looked at that some things maybe we haven't talked as much about today is is the evidence of that in south america as well we know is the evidence of that in South America as well. We know about the most famous ones in Egypt. There are other structures around the world that people have tied back to pyramids or similar technology, if you will, in air quotes there. But when we're looking at Egypt, the base question just starting there that I'd love to know, and you started to go towards this earlier, but I don't think you got all the way there,
Starting point is 02:00:24 is who do you think built it? And you had been talking about like the ways they built it a little bit and how impressive it was to get some rocks potentially from a thousand miles away but what what do you know about that and and also if you can relate it to other research like what ben van kerwick has done or even like graham and randall like what what seems to be the possibility there so the the academic world in terms of the doctrine of history is so stubborn and so incredibly controlled that even with the revelations that... You've got unlimited access to music, but time? Now that's limited. The PC Insider's World's Elite MasterCard
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Starting point is 02:01:29 Value is for illustrative purposes only. The amazing Robert Schock did, which by the way, if anything, I feel like Robert Schock and Bavall are actually the true pioneers because what they did is the Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson's came right after them
Starting point is 02:01:44 because what Robert Schock did is that he was brought there from Robert Baval. I don't know if you know the story. So, okay. So Robert Baval was, um, him and John Anthony West where they're like the first two, they were the pioneers,
Starting point is 02:01:58 all this. If you want to know how this whole alternative history lost civilizations, you don't want to know where it started. It started with them. And I want to give them credit for that because i think sometimes it gets lost because jonathan the west what a hero he was he's he's passed away now but he was a great great man and what he was was a genius he was dating the sphinx and the enclosure and the pyramids of egypt so far back that even the dating that Graham Hancock and Randall are arguing wasn't even far back enough. The reason I say that is because there's
Starting point is 02:02:33 a term in ancient Egypt called Zeph Tepe. It's written in a lot of the ancient walls throughout the Giza Plateau, and it talks about this time of the first time it talks about when Egypt started and its name used to be chem or chem it with a K it was a land of chem and it's really kind of weird that you pointed out that Shem sounds just like him yeah like just like it right very similar almost the exact same yeah Yeah. Shem, Kem. And this has shown us, it's telling us that, look, this was one of the bloodline sons of Zayasudra. They were, like, superhuman, basically. And they created the Great Pyramids of Giza.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Now, I want to get back, again, to what I was saying. So, Robert Paval and John Anthony West, they're in Giza. And this is what, like, 1988, 1991 or some, realizing that, look, this is not caused by wind erosion. This is caused by weather erosion, 100%, like clearly. And they're aligning the king and queen's chamber in the Great Pyramid to star constellations of Sirius and Orion's belt. And they're realizing, hey, these don't line up. These don't line up 4,000 or 5,000 years ago at all. And then they're like, well, you know, we don't have any pharaohs ever buried ago at all and then they're like well you know we don't have any pharaohs ever buried in them we know they're not tombs in fact the entire story
Starting point is 02:04:11 about kufu may have been a complete fabrication there's strong evidence and i don't remember the gentleman's name off my head there's strong evidence of the person who discovered that name written fabricated himself that there's never a name ever of Khufu anywhere in the Great Pyramid at all and to this day we find only one place so weird right yes because Khufu had nothing to do with it in fact the pyramids were likely built 10,000 years or more before Khufu so this is how the story went for a little history lesson on people. John Anthony West and Robert Baval, they contact an awesome geologist who they're friends with named Robert Shock. And Robert Shock is a trained geologist.
Starting point is 02:04:54 And at first, he was apprehensive of the whole concept they were trying to push for, which is like exactly what you want. You want to have a scientist who isn't biased on any kind of an answer and is there to just look at the evidence. And that's what he want. He wanted to have a scientist who isn't biased on any kind of answer and is there to just look at the evidence. And that's what he did. They flew him out to Giza. Brabhar Bhaval walked up and he's like literally one of the best geologists in the world. He walks up to the walls and he looks at it and he's like,
Starting point is 02:05:17 that's not wind erosion. Boom. And he then sat down and I think he had to try to wrap his head around changing the paradigm because I don't think at that point he thought that was going to be what he expected as far as I know of Robert Shock's story and I love that man very much but then he proposed it
Starting point is 02:05:34 and you think Graham Hancock got lambasted? Oh yeah. Robert Shock was a full on academic who's got multiple degrees and he was a very well trained geologist and he got completely destroyed. He proposed that the Sphinx enclosure was water and not wind
Starting point is 02:05:50 and because there hasn't been enough water on the Giza Plateau until at least 12,000 years ago, all of a sudden we got a problem. Okay? And so that's how the whole thing started. Meanwhile, Graham Hancock goes to Ethiopia and he's part of a journalism
Starting point is 02:06:06 exploit and he finds out that shoot they're supposed to have the Ark of the Covenant here and so it's interesting how these men got started and how this whole thing started but that's how it all started for a little history lesson if everybody forgot and then those very brave men
Starting point is 02:06:22 all of them Robert Shock Robert Vivald, John Anthony West, Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson, and there's definitely a couple I'm missing. They spearheaded this entire thing to try to get to the truth of alternative lost civilizations in history. And John Anthony West believed that looking at the alignments of Leo with with the great sphinx that he believed that zeb tepe was referring to 38 000 years ago okay so we're gonna call it 40 so we can just call it 40 just to stop you for a minute i hate that it's like even labeled like alternative history i know or anything it should be i i'm not going to think of a good name off the top of my head but like we are exploring things that we do – we are constantly mounting evidence for.
Starting point is 02:07:08 We don't have the hardest evidence to say absolutely this, absolutely that, including anything you've said today. So that just points out half the problem right there, but please continue. So then we started to have to relook at, well, what did the pyramids really get built for? Like we already knew that they weren't built as tombs. There was no tombs. There were false boxes, false sarcophagi. But we find those in the Serapium as well. Do you know what the Serapium is?
Starting point is 02:07:35 No. Serapium is this unbelievable subterranean chamber that goes down under Giza into the aquifer water systems. And there are these granite boxes that are like 50, 60 tons underground, and they're bigger than the entrance to get in. So, like, nobody has any comprehension of how they built them, how they got down there, what their purpose was,
Starting point is 02:07:55 but we find this signature across Giza. Remember, this whole idea of, like, reincarnation and tracing death of these empty stone sarcophagus that are like massive and beautiful but there's no one in them and no one can go in them so what that means we still don't know
Starting point is 02:08:13 but they're not for Apis bulls I can tell you that the Egyptian authorities with Zahi Hawass say that they were created to bury the bones of Apis bulls bulls as a sacra as a ceremonial thing and it's just there's no evidence of that in the whole that the more they try to like create these theories for why things are built the more that anyone's well educated that's
Starting point is 02:08:36 least open-minded it's just like is getting frustrated because it's stupid yeah yeah it's and so the great pyramids of giza they seem to have been built by this lost civilization that understood cycles now if you look at it it's built exactly on what's called the 30th parallel okay now what's bizarre as i was mentioning that civilizations didn't seem to care just at the availability of water and other things. It was about energetically and being in a certain location. Now, the 30th parallel is in the region of Earth that covers this line across above the equator, right? When we look at some of the most ancient sites on Earth, this, you ready for this? Yes.
Starting point is 02:09:17 The Great Pyramids of Giza, Eridu, and the Sumerian cities, as well as places like angkor wat in in indonesia in southeast asia and uh some others um they're exactly found on the 30th parallel exactly it means that around the world they're exactly on the same line like everything was done on purpose like everything and how far back again is the estimation you know and like I said I really John Anthony West what wrote a fantastic book called serpent in the sky that's what it's called right because and I have this whole theory where the law of correspondence above and below I believe that the prediluvians the cities of Sumer like like Eridu and Shurupec, and the Euphrates River were actually designed to mimic the constellation of Eridonis.
Starting point is 02:10:14 There's a constellation called Eridonis that is supposed to be the serpent in the sky, and it leads from Orion's belt. So if we look at these ancient Sumerian cities and the Euphrates River and how gobekli tepe is at the headwaters just so you know gobekli tepe is at the headwaters of the euphrates river the very beginning of it okay and these other cities are at the end and then the great pyramids of giza are built to be basically the three belt stars of orion and what it shows you is that it's like they're trying to make the start the constellations in the sky do you think there was does that make sense yeah i mean this is a wide open question that i guess the answer is yeah possibly but when i start seeing perfection like that on a mass scale yeah not just in person but when you talk about distance across society yeah and i consider maybe the lack of certain innovations that even advanced civilizations had
Starting point is 02:11:06 which we've talked about already today I'm like this has to be something otherworldly doing this that's what I mean I spent about 30 minutes talking about the Anuna because how could that not be I think it's there's a famous quote that, you know, Sherlock Holmes, who wasn't really a detective,
Starting point is 02:11:29 but he wrote the books, right? I love that quote, he says, because I use it in all my last two books. He has this quote in there about when you're trying to figure something out. Do you remember this? No. His famous quote is,
Starting point is 02:11:43 can you pull it up really quick? I don't want to butcher it. Do you remember this? No. His famous quote is... Can you pull it up really quick? I don't want to butcher it. Just look up Sherlock Holmes quote. His name is not really that. Sir Arthur Doyle. Sir Arthur Doyle quote about what? I want you to read it really quick because I don't want to accidentally say it wrong. Sir Arthur Doyle, just say his quote. It's the most famous
Starting point is 02:12:01 quote in history. Whatever remains it must be the truth it's i i think it's have mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself just type whatever remains must be the truth yeah so and and okay you want the quote yeah please please read it because i don't want to i want to make sure i don't get it wrong yeah i think it's one of those profound quotes ever ever ever said when you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains however improbable must be the truth thank you so what you just said i it's so hard to wrap our hands around heads around what the anuna are and what they could be or even just what the influences that get rise to any of these civilizations were and the knowledge but the end of the day i have to admit it seems impossible it's purely just humans with no
Starting point is 02:12:51 influences and i think that that's the bottom line is that everything that i've uncovered and many others i think even like some others i won't mention them names would admit to is that it just seems Completely impossible like that quote said that all that remains That makes sense is that all that knowledge and all those things that were brought and all that it wasn't from here That's it it just wasn't from here and I think that's the best way to say it. So, you wanted to hear about the Great Pyramid of Giza. Yes. We talked about its location.
Starting point is 02:13:33 It's really weird, and I think someone like Graham Hancock is a lot better at discussing it than I am, but if you look at the Great Pyramid of Giza, it's like a half ratio of the entire Earth. Perfect. And if you look at the location it is on the Earth, the location it is is the same number of the speed of light entire earth. Perfect. And if you look at the location it is on the earth, the location
Starting point is 02:13:45 it is is the same number of the speed of light and everything. Stuff is mind-blowing. Can you explain that, please? Yeah. So, look up the location of, say, Pyramid of Giza and Speed of Light. First of all. Okay.
Starting point is 02:14:03 We got it behind us. And just, like, there'll be an image or something it's just easier you know image yeah which one this one yeah okay speed of light 299 792 458 meters per second coordinates of the great pyramid he's a son of a bitch 29 $29.97, $92, $4.58. I love your reactions. So we're talking. Is that real? Yes. That's not a meme? No.
Starting point is 02:14:35 We're talking about something that is, I told you, these people were smarter than we are. We think we're so advanced with iPhones and stuff, but I think we're pretty dumb, actually, to be honest. So not only that, but now type in great pyramid ratio of earth great pyramid of giza yeah and then go to images again okay ratio of earth images yeah so graham talks about this again like i say it's not what we think it's built to be an exact replica of the half the hemisphere of the entire planet on a triangular basis without the circumference yes space it's perfectly mathematically tuned to perfection to not only because the earth is not it means that they knew the exact ratios and size of the entire planet right because that if i'm remembering this correctly obviously the earth is round but it's
Starting point is 02:15:29 not a sphere it's not a perfect circle it's a spiral it's a spheroid i guess is what it's technically called or something yeah so again we're talking about people that literally knew not only the circumference of the earth but the distance between the sun and the moon. So they designed a structure to literally mimic the cosmos to be in the precise location of the earth that I believe had two functions. First function is I think that if you look at something like the king's chamber, it seems to be this, and everybody that goes there that's spiritual says the same thing, seems to be this incredibly energetic that goes there that spiritual says the same thing seems to be this incredibly energetic highly conscious place that if you go you have like profound experiences everybody says that okay everyone and secondly it seems to be because the three stars are mimicking the three bell stars of orion and it's in that specific spot on the
Starting point is 02:16:21 earth i have nothing the way that i can describe it is they seem to be somehow either manipulating or balancing the energy of the entire planet like the magnetosphere of the planet because underneath the great pyramids giza symbolically or are you saying literally like energetically so the reason i say that is we know that water is a superconductive electricity right underneath the great pyramids we find all three pyramids are built specifically on a place where the aquifer water systems came up and interacted with all the sacred geometry and like all these different things to create like a harmonic balance of energy there so perfectly that not only that but it's based on like our entire planet and the ratio and distances from the moon and sun they seem seem to be, they seem to be creating some kind of a system to all I can think of is to
Starting point is 02:17:10 try to prevent their entire destruction. That's the only thing I can think of is to somehow have like a management energy, potential, uh, techno technology or something to be able to balance the the magnetic poles of the planet or at least the energetic balance of the planet yeah i assume i'm going to put this in the corner of the screen i assume you've seen like this meme where it shows the pillars below with the pyramids and i'm not
Starting point is 02:17:39 i'm not saying no there's lots of subterranean stuff underneath there i'm not saying that this is what it is but the idea yeah of this meme that's been created online is that we're looking at things surface level and we're not looking at what things really are. It is true though. There's well-documented that if Zahi Was ever moves aside, there is more underneath Giz and there is more underneath keys than there is above it how does this man this piece of shit i love it have so much power because he was put in power and he has it all because they need someone that is gonna he's one guy that until i saw a video i never fucking heard yeah but it's not him at all that's the thing that people need to understand that he's just a puppet he's got nothing to do with any of it how old is he now probably like 75 all right
Starting point is 02:18:25 so he's on his way he's just the puppet mouthpiece of the system but someone's just going to replace him well that's the idea is that but i don't know if that model really is able to work anymore i think that the old model of putting these corrupted archaeologists sort of like putting a corrupt government in place for your own means by the way is sort of like is just satisfying some kind of an interest externally yeah i mean i okay now i want to add another layer it doesn't it just doesn't make sense i want to add another layer now you walk outside and you see a cell phone tower and it's like triangulating cell phone yes you see blah blah we find some very interesting signatures when we look at obelis like strange energetically when we measure obelis and we look at them and the fact that the founding fathers built them everywhere
Starting point is 02:19:17 this one in washington dc this one in london like they knew about this oh 100 like they knew about this. Oh, 100%. Like, they knew about the importance of them. And so what I can try to come up with is like, well, look, if the pyramids are sort of this massive, I don't think it, I don't know if it would be like a power plant or whatever you want to call it. Some kind of a central location, then the obelisk would be like the receivers all the earth now did they know it or is it similar to some of the other things we've been talking about from ancient history today where where certain ideas are passed down i think based on everything that i've looked at that the founding fathers and these groups know far more than we realize these groups i'm not going to just say founding fathers like i'm going to say secret societies i'll call them okay what it looks like our secret societies sort of got corrupted later on but secret societies are where this has gone back
Starting point is 02:20:17 to the very ancient times knowledge i wanted and i maybe i didn't make this super clear enough is that i don't think that knowledge was shared to every single person in the population oh no i think that much seems very clear it was obvious it was a powerful group of like priests and sages and i don't think it's changed that much i think i think that's the best way to to look at it is that i don't think it's changed that of anything there probably were influences that were very very strong the other way of like well we can't really have like we need people to like right do the industrial things and all these things that are going on and we need people to live in some blissful ignorance i so i think they knew and i think that the found i do think the founding fathers were great men and i but i
Starting point is 02:20:58 do think that they had great ideas and i think that they wanted something that is still here but other bad influences got involved like palpation paperclip yeah which we won't get into oh my god yeah we're not going down that route but i just i just want to just to mention that is i know and i don't want to go too far any further than that because i just think it's best to stay away from that but i would just say that yeah they knew they knew, I think, the Founding Fathers and secret societies knew pretty much all this. You talked to Randall about this? Not extensively. He is a Mason.
Starting point is 02:21:32 Well, I think that the order of the Masons is not what it used to be. I think Randall's the smartest one around now. I think that's probably, just as a total guess from the outside, that's probably really fair because i just that stuff fascinates me in that i wonder especially given the stretch of some of it how sacred certain things really can be especially in today's world where everyone's connected people text each other yeah they do stupid they get drunk you know what i mean like it's definitely existed throughout time yeah it definitely, still exists on some scale. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:07 Today. But, like, what secrets of the universe do they have? And also, where do... And I do give this credit to... I don't know if you want to say secret societies or you even want to say, like, governments. Okay. That's kind of more where I'd go. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:23 It's like, what if you do know things... Yeah humanity can't handle well they do and it but okay so let's stay with it for a minute yeah if they do and i actually agree some of them at least do with something if they can simulate the fact that humanity can't handle it as much as i want to fucking know believe me i want to know it's like one part of me says well who the fuck are you to decide and the other part of me says i completely understand well imagine you had a system in place here that regardless of your opinions on whether or not the system is good or not right the system here in terms of laws rules but everybody's doing everything right imagine that's in place and it's very very very established i think they're trying to ride that baby out as long as possible if my opinion i think that they're slowly disseminating information
Starting point is 02:23:12 through media and movies we slowly these some of these concepts are coming in some of these movies and what they've shown is like so obvious for people like me it's like screaming at us whereas others it's not super obvious but that's the whole idea is that subconsciously i think some of these ideas are being implanted implanted inside us like what um like there was a marvel movie that just came out it was what's that there was a bunch of superheroes that just came out in a marvel movie um and i can't remember what it is up my head justice league no no no, later Just look up superhero Marvel movies And in that movie They even have a scene where
Starting point is 02:23:50 What year? Like last year or something Two years ago I already said Eternals The Eternals, that's it The Eternals? Yeah Okay
Starting point is 02:24:01 Okay, so they're automatically They're called the Eternals First of all Right? Just like the ancient people Were living forever The Eternals? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So they're automatically, they're called the Eternals, first of all. Right? Just like the ancient people were living forever. And in that movie, one of the characters is named Gilgamesh. Okay?
Starting point is 02:24:14 Seriously. But it might be people who are just like the stones like you. Well, hold on. It's not done yet. It's not done yet. One of the characters is a Gilgamesh and he's like a demigod. Another one, another part of the character goes back in time to change an event. And it's the event of Cortez conquering Tenochtitlan
Starting point is 02:24:30 and killing all the people. They show the scene in that movie of him intervening in that destruction. He's trying to go back and alter how things went. They're pointing out these like key things in history these moments of that are from like the tablets it's bizarre and they talk about how they're like super humans that can all have all these abilities and all these strengths and i think there's more
Starting point is 02:24:54 more that i'm forgetting the point i'm trying to make is i think this stuff is being put into media and it's there's many many examples we talked about the truman show stargate i mean there's there's i could come up with endless movies where there's like these deliberate little things that are like seem like they're put in actually yeah because i i want you to tell the truman show thing because that's a movie like every now and then like not even to go watch but to go like just explore it fascinates me so much as as a, but you point out something at dinner last night that I never knew about. It blew my mind. Again, I think that subconsciously
Starting point is 02:25:30 this stuff works pretty powerful and we don't know it. I mean, that's what the whole point is. I think once things do become more disclosed, I think people are going to be like, yeah, we kind of already knew that. I think that's the purpose. They know and they're just trying to hold this as long as possible in it
Starting point is 02:25:45 But eventually it is going to change and a lot's gonna change a lot's changed Eventually, we're gonna realize brain the brain does not create consciousness and the whole shift is gonna happen. Don't go there Okay, we're gonna be here all night. So so I Don't even know where we were we were with that story, but it's like This this shift is starting I think starting to happen yeah truman show thank you so you asked me last night how i got started in this whole journey this path and i told you that i think because of the power of conditioning the power of how we're brought up and brainwashed
Starting point is 02:26:19 basically in a certain reality that it takes quite a spark, I call it, to shift someone over to then to change their entire mindset. I think it's a very, very difficult thing. And I think people underestimate what reformatting your brain to a new paradigm is like. It's not an easy thing. It's not a walk in the park. So I think for it to happen takes a pretty significant event. Something, and that's what I had happen to me.
Starting point is 02:26:44 And for me i was already sort of looking for and it kind of came into my life but what it is is uh i just want to i guess i'll start by saying i already told the story of the dogan at the beginning of the show yes and the first podcast yeah we the first podcast thank you we extensively talked about that the point of the dogon was though the heart of their knowledge this remote tribe in tribe in Western Africa that seemingly knew things they shouldn't and things before yet but there's a one character from sumer that maybe anki or depending depending stated that he told them all about the serious because that's where they came from that's what the only time and i brought i pointed this out in my stage of time book that's the only evidence we've ever seen anywhere of any cross-related situation anywhere
Starting point is 02:27:41 on earth that somehow tells us where they might have come from i would say it's probably if i was like orion and sirius because that seems to be the only the things depicted by ancient people all throughout the world like we know the great pyramid of giza the the queen's chamber the feminine energy is pointing to sirius and the king's chamber is pointing to orion we know that orion is is the great masculine hunter, and that Sirius is a feminine energy. Lined up again. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:07 So, and that may even tie into, like, the eagle and the serpent have divine feminine energy and masculine, right? Could. Right? The whole thing may be acting itself out here like that. that whole thread the dogan knew things about the serious a b and c this the three brightest the major stars in the canis major stars constellation that they shouldn't have known it was like the ultimate proof to leave something behind that doesn't make sense for us in the future i don't think i think that was the purpose to be honest i think the dogan were supposed to be like with their procedures of keeping their elder in a cave i think it was supposed to be
Starting point is 02:28:44 this thing that makes us go, what the? I really do. I think that was what the purpose of it was. And maybe that's why they instructed them to protect it so much. I don't know. But their story changed a lot of people's lives, including my own.
Starting point is 02:28:56 And in that discovery of Sirius and Canis Major, and it awakened me to a whole path that I literally went down that led to all this and i don't know where i'd be if it wasn't for that so i want to get robert temple the serious mystery book i want to give him credit for that because that is what changed my life and then i ended up doing my own research but so having said that how the heck does that have anything to do with the truman show right how the heck until in the tr Truman Show, which, by the way, is an incredible movie in terms of what it tries to do with how are we living in an illusion
Starting point is 02:29:31 of how things have been created around us through both our history and what we're doing and that it's not the real reality type of aspect. Well, that movie was ahead of its time. Right. It was that it gets better with time and how unbelievably intuitive it is. Especially if you're more awake to all this stuff, right?
Starting point is 02:29:47 More aware of it. So in that movie, there's a specific moment where Truman has that epiphany, right? And that's what's so brilliant about this part in the movie. Because so clearly whoever's making it knew how powerful things can be to change people's mindsets. So in that movie, Truman's walking down the road, and all of a sudden a light fixture falls out of the sky and crashes right in front of him. And he's like, but that's, it had really nothing to do with the light.
Starting point is 02:30:17 The light was a symbol. It wasn't really supposed to be a light. Yeah, you can pull it up. It was supposed to be a light in his head, right? It's like that moment of aha or something that makes him realize that everything he's living in or everywhere he's realizing he's changing his mindset that it's not real right and i'll put the picture in the corner of the screen thank you thank you what does it say so truman picks up the light and you of course you're not going to ever see this unless you pause at the exact moment. It's called an Easter egg and it's an Easter egg they put in for very specific people to
Starting point is 02:30:48 see. And on this light, which is the light where Truman has that awakening moment, it says Sirius Canis Major. Like for that to be random to me is impossible. It's impossible. I don't think you should say impossible, but it's highly, highly improbable. It's highly improbable it's highly improbable and it's just strange because here i am the thing that was a spark for
Starting point is 02:31:09 me was the dogon with sirius cadence major that was like and there's no one else there's no other culture on earth that talks about sirius besides egypt but that talks really about it talks about the orbital tracks or anything so and again and at the same time i want to i want to point out that the queen's chamber of the great pyramid of giza also points towards sirius so i think that it's a combination of both because that also points to the fact that well look they're pointing a star constellation is not a tomb right and so then you add another layer to it well when did it point towards that and that's we're going to swing right back to where we started, where John Anthony West and Graham Hancock and Robert Bavall and all these guys were like studying ancient alignments because of the, of the procession of the equinox with the same place throughout all time. It faces different positions based on different ages. Now, if people don't know that, each age where is a zodiac is 2,100 years.
Starting point is 02:32:12 Okay? So the entire zodiac is like 25,000 years. That's called the great year. That's how they track time. The ancient people of Gobekli Tepe would track time based on the great year. So their year was 25 and a half thousand years 26 000 years and so what it means is that because the earth only points towards specific constellations at certain time periods every 2100 years they try to align both
Starting point is 02:32:41 orion and sirius with those with great pyramid of giza and they could not do it until at least 13 000 years ago but the one before that is like 26 000 and then there's like a 38 000 so what john anthony west did is he goes whoa wait wait guys i know this might seem crazy because you guys are like you guys think it's 13 and that's already extreme for the mainstream, but he's like, look, the great sphinx is facing also something. And it's part of the same structures. The great sphinx is facing Leo. But this is the great because because the great sphinx is not a pharaoh. It was recarved.
Starting point is 02:33:18 He used to be a lion. That's why the body is so disproportional. The head makes sense. Okay. Yeah. So the great sphinx used to be a lion because the lion was the great protector and guardian of the ancient world. And the Great Sphinx happens to have three entrances down into the underworld under Giza
Starting point is 02:33:35 because it was the guardian to the gateway. That's why he was a lion. That is some full circle shit. Ain Dara, remember their lion was this? Yep. The whole thing is that all these cultures were connected. So the lion, the eagle, the serpent, these are like the most important symbols in history. Now, so what it means is then, it means that Jonathan West looked at that and he's like, wait, wait, wait, wait. So when did the queen's chamber, the king's
Starting point is 02:34:05 chamber aligned to Sirius and Orion? And then when did the great Sphinx align to Leo? And he took the whole thing together. And then he took this ancient time that's depicted in murals called Zep Tepi the first time. And they added up the king's list on what's called the Turin king's list. So there's an ancient king list in Egypt that people don't even know about. That's just like the Sumerian ones. And the early depictions of the ancient kings is a lot longer reigns than the ones later, just like the Sumerians. And in that, they determined that the king's list adds up to the time period of Zeph Tepe to 38,000 years ago. And Leo exactly aligns to... Oh, my God. The Great Sphinx exactly aligns to Leo and the Queen and King's Chamber
Starting point is 02:34:50 align to those 38,000 years ago. And he argues, and I agree with him, he argues that the Younger Dryas period would have been way too volatile to build any of those structures. And I think he's right. I think that the Great Pyramids of Giza and the Sphinx are 38 000 years old
Starting point is 02:35:07 and if atlantis is 50 000 years old it makes complete sense because supposedly the great pyramids of giza were created out of the ashes of atlantis so it exactly lines up. I've gotten an education today that I will need to review many times over. That's why I reveal. It is, dude, this is, listen, I've said it twice today, I think. I'll say it a third time if you're 30% right. This is fucking mind-blowing. I mean, it just, it makes you just wonder more and more the layers it's like it's truly like an onion the layers seem to never end but listen man i if i
Starting point is 02:35:53 kept going with that you know you'd miss your flight yeah we got to get you to the airport we've been talking all day that's why we got to stop but like i said a while ago this is two podcasts yeah this was this was something else, man. Like five hours, I think, six hours? I don't know. I think it's like five and something, five and a half maybe. But listen, thank you so much for coming out here from Denver. I truly appreciated talking to you, Julian.
Starting point is 02:36:16 You're an awesome guy. You're very smart, and I really respect what you do with your podcast. So this, I couldn't think of a better place to change history with you. Well, I appreciate you doing it here, and I look forward to having more conversations again in the future. All right. Thank you so much, my friend. Let's talk again. Okay. Absolutely. All right. Everybody else, you know what it is. Give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace.

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